#17 The _____ Emu War: Saving Crops, One Emu At A Time

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Hi, I'm Debbie and I'm Megan.
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We are real life scientists, and
we want to share some sciencey
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stories that are wild.
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Most of the time, hilarious most
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of the time, but with an ad libs
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twist.
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Yes, you are listening to lab
libs.
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Now.
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Now this time yours is the one
that's like a question mark.
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Yeah, but I figured it was
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better than being like, oh, it's
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a whole bunch of really terrible
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things.
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But you're gonna laugh.
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No, no it's not, it's not
terrible.
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It's a funny one.
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It's no. Well, you know, mostly
hilarious.
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A little pinch of not freaking
funny in there, but.
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But mostly hilarious.
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Mostly hilarious.
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Yeah, it's primarily hilarious.
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Okay, I got your two out of
context quotes as usual because
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I have to give you two.
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Right?
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The first one is from the Sunday
Herald.
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Okay.
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And it says each pack seems to
have its leader, which keeps
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watch while his mates carry out
their work of destruction.
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Oh.
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Um.
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Okay.
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Mhm.
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Um, okay.
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My first question is, are we
talking about humans or animals?
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Well, this is my first question.
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I don't know.
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I mean, you know.
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Yeah, I know, I know, I know, I
know, I know.
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Okay.
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That's, uh, random.
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Um, I think a random observer.
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Yes.
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An observer.
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Okay.
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We'll say said the enemy is is a
tough, Prolific, gangly marauder
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of the Sand Plains.
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Oh. The enemy is a. What a
tough, prolific, gangly marauder
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of the Sand Plains.
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What even is a marauder?
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I think like a thief.
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Like a conqueror.
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They like Maraud.
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Yeah.
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What is that?
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Yeah, I think.
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Oh. Thank you.
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Debbie.
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That helps a lot.
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Conqueror.
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Stealing.
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Conquering.
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Whatever.
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Yeah, like taking over places,
right?
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Exactly.
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That's right.
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Marauder.
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Marauder.
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Okay, first sentence is your
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first, um, category, which was a
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continent.
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And you said Africa.
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Yep.
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So far, what do you think?
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Just based on your out of
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Based on my out of out of
context quotes, what do you what
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are you think?
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And you think you got the.
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The Sand Plains is my only real
clue of location here means.
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I guess I'd say.
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I have no idea.
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Okay, there could be sand plains
on multiple.
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I think maybe a lot of
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Yeah.
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Every continent, maybe some sand
plains, maybe.
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Okay, well, I'll just tell you
the answer.
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It's not Africa, it's Australia.
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Okay, so the first sentence is,
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after World War One, Australia
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faced a problem that many
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countries had to also deal with
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thousands of soldiers returning
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home, and the government needed
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to find a way to help them start
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new lives.
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MM. After World War One one, I
guess I never really thought
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about Australia's contribution
to the world wars.
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Right.
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In general.
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I know I definitely we don't
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have any listeners there yet, so
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feel free to know listeners in
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Australia.
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I don't think so.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So you can talk all the shit?
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No. I've always wanted to go to
Australia.
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Okay.
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Anyways, I did not even think
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about Australia as an option
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when I was thinking of
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continents.
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Okay.
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That's interesting.
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I was between either saying
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South America or Africa or like
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Asia.
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I think we're the ones I thought
of right away.
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Interesting.
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Okay.
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So okay, so what is this problem
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then that they had to deal with
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thousands of soldiers returning
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home?
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Oh, okay.
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And the government needed to
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find a way to help them start
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new lives.
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Right.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Australia was like many
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countries that had this problem,
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right?
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in fact, this is a common
problem after war.
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the solution seemed simple at
the time.
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officials decided to give
returned soldiers land so they
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could become farmers.
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Okay, that seems like a
straightforward plan.
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It does.
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But you know what?
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It kind of reminded me of, how
they kept saying, everyone's
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going to be a coder.
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The job market was going to.
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You're going to have to be a
coder.
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Everyone's gonna have to learn.
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You're a coal mine worker.
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You're gonna have to learn how
to code.
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So everyone from all you're
gonna need to be a farmer.
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Sorry, everyone.
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From all different skill sets
and walks of life, we're just
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gonna magically come back from
from the war and become farmers.
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Be farmers.
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That's right.
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Yep, yep.
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That sounds like a pretty good
solution.
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this became known as the Soldier
Settlement Scheme.
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Oh, that's a fun, catchy name.
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That is a fun, catchy name.
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That is very fun.
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although this solution caused
some really serious problems.
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In order for the Australian
government to give away land, it
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first needed to be taken from
the Aboriginal people.
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Oh, right.
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So that's the little bit of
that's the big thing.
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Not fun stuff.
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So that's totally fucked.
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yeah, it's kind of worse than
that too.
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Okay.
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Along with this terrible
problem, other issues arose,
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including farming failures and
eventually one of the strangest
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events in history.
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During the First World War, the
government rightly believed it
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had a duty to support the
soldiers who fought.
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Okay.
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A newspaper at the time wrote
that the nation, quote, the
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nation Owes them a sacred duty,
and the nation must discharge
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that duty, which helped push
leaders in the government to
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create programs to help veterans
once the war ended.
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This is all happening
specifically in Australia that
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you're referring to.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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they set up pensions and also
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planned to give soldiers land so
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that they could build farms and
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support themselves.
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Mhm.
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however, the plan was rushed,
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and like most government
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schemes.
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Not fully thought out.
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I love that they call it a
scheme.
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I know.
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Did the government call it a
scheme?
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I think that's what it was
called.
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That is so strange.
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Not a scheme is not a good word.
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No. That does not have good
feeling behind it.
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No, I don't like settlement
either.
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None of it sounds good.
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Yeah.
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You're not selling me on?
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Not at all.
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some leaders were worried about,
quote unquote, City's congested
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with idle men.
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Okay.
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Why didn't they just give him
regular jobs?
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Why didn't.
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There must have been other jobs
available.
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Because all the men were at war.
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And, like, I don't know, there
was probably like, were there
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jobs, other jobs available?
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I guess I imagine about war, but
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like, everybody can be a farmer,
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right?
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I don't understand why they were
so specific.
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I don't know.
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so they pushed the, the
settlement plans forward more
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quickly because they were
worried about these cities
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getting congested with idle men.
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Oh, okay.
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That's why they rushed their
plans.
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Yes.
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Some leaders were worried about
quote unquote, cities congested
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with idle men.
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Did they think they were going
to be like on the streets or.
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I'm guessing that's what they
mean by okay.
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All up in the city.
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Right.
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Ideally.
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idly in the city.
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God forbid we just give people
houses.
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Huh?
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My God.
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God forbid.
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We just solve the housing
crisis.
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Oh my gosh.
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Yeah.
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I was like, oh, that's that's a
really nice, um.
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Really nice reason to do this.
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What if you were like, I don't
want to be a farmer.
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I don't want to be a farmer.
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Speaker:
Well, sorry.
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Speaker:
Sucks for you.
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Go be idle in the city.
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Okay.
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Speaker:
So. So what happened?
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They rushed into settlement.
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Scheme officially began near the
end of the war and then
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continued after it.
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The idea was to turn soldiers
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into farmers by giving them
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small pieces of land, often in
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rural areas.
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You know, I can't say that word.
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I never have been able to.
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I'm never going to say it again.
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Roll Often in rural areas that
had not been fully developed in
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Australia, the government wanted
to create farming communities
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made up of returned soldiers and
their families, and this idea
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fit the popular belief at the
time and still today, that
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owning a small farm was a good
and honourable way to live.
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Officials hope the scheme would
help the economy help populate
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the inland and reward veterans.
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MM. It's like one of those
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things that when you just say it
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without any questioning, it
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sounds nice.
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Speaker:
And then if you think about it
for like two point five seconds.
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Speaker:
Yeah, you can't, you can't
scratch that surface very much.
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Speaker:
No, I know.
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Yeah.
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but there was a major problem
with the land being used that it
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belonged to someone already.
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It was not empty.
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Speaker:
That's right.
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Speaker:
Right.
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Speaker:
Um, and that's usually the case
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when you're trying to settle
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somewhere.
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Speaker:
Mhm.
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Speaker:
Yeah.
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Speaker:
Okay.
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Speaker:
We're gonna test your history
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Speaker:
knowledge right quick with this
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Speaker:
next.
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Speaker:
Oh, I'm so good at history.
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Speaker:
No. You're terrible.
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Speaker:
Okay, the category I gave you
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Speaker:
was a decade in the early
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nineteen hundreds.
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Speaker:
Okay.
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Speaker:
I'm going to read you the
sentence.
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Speaker:
Then you're going to tell me if
your answer is or isn't correct.
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Speaker:
Okay.
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Speaker:
And you're gonna tell me why I
chose that answer.
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Speaker:
I chose okay, but you still have
to answer whether you think it's
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Speaker:
right or not.
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Speaker:
This is getting really meta,
right?
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Speaker:
Okay.
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Speaker:
Okay.
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Speaker:
In the blank blank, much of the
land in Western Australia, where
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soldier settlements and farming
expanded, was traditionally
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Speaker:
inhabited by Aboriginal peoples
or First Nation groups.
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Speaker:
I'll pause there so you can
answer the question.
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Speaker:
So given the time period that
we're talking about right now.
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So like prior to the war.
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So this is, I mean, like after
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when they're trying to this time
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Speaker:
frame that we're talking about
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when they're just after World
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Speaker:
War one.
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Speaker:
Mhm.
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Speaker:
That's my history question.
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Speaker:
Right.
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Speaker:
So you said nineteen tens.
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Speaker:
I feel like World War Two was in
the nineteen thirties, right?
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Speaker:
With like the Holocaust and
stuff.
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Speaker:
That one, the second one.
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Speaker:
And that was in the thirties, I
think.
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Speaker:
So World War One must have been
like.
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Speaker:
It's gotta be at least like
twenty or thirty years before
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Speaker:
you would hope it would have
been that much longer before.
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Speaker:
Huh?
327
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Speaker:
No, those ones were actually
pretty back to back.
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Speaker:
Really.
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Speaker:
So it was like the twenties.
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Speaker:
It this subject is now the
thirties.
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Speaker:
It's like, oh, well, after the
war is done.
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Speaker:
But I think that I don't know.
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Speaker:
So World War One and World War
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Speaker:
Two, like happened nineteen
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Speaker:
twenties together.
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Speaker:
Yeah.
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Speaker:
Mhm.
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Speaker:
I did not know that.
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Speaker:
I'm gonna look it up.
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Speaker:
Oh. So you can pretend that you
know more history than me?
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Speaker:
I'm gonna say I looked it up.
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Speaker:
Maybe World War Two was in the
forties.
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Speaker:
I see, I saw nineteen twenties.
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Speaker:
It's it's, nineteen eighteen.
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Speaker:
I ended okay.
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Speaker:
It's the world.
347
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Speaker:
The Second World War, I believe,
started in thirty seven.
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Speaker:
But those are still really close
together, aren't they?
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Speaker:
Yeah.
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Speaker:
For a world war, like.
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Speaker:
Yeah, let's do it again.
352
00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,720
Speaker:
So I guess maybe they just never
really solved.
353
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Speaker:
They didn't squash the beef.
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Speaker:
Yeah.
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Speaker:
Mhm.
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Speaker:
They didn't squash the beef.
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Speaker:
That's what it was.
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Speaker:
Yeah.
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Speaker:
Okay.
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Speaker:
It was just a continuation.
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Speaker:
Really?
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Speaker:
Maybe.
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Speaker:
I have no idea.
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Speaker:
I don't either.
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Speaker:
so like I said, it was
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Speaker:
traditionally inhabited by the
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Speaker:
Aboriginal peoples in the
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Speaker:
nineteen thirties or First
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Speaker:
Nation groups, including the
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Speaker:
Noongar in the southwest areas
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Speaker:
like near Perth and the wheat
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Speaker:
belt, which is apparently a
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Speaker:
thing.
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Speaker:
Okay.
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Speaker:
and many of them were forced
onto reservations or missions.
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Speaker:
Oh hate that.
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Speaker:
Yeah.
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Speaker:
Large areas that had been used
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Speaker:
by Aboriginal communities for a
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Speaker:
long time were taken away and
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Speaker:
given to the white soldiers and
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Speaker:
stuff.
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Speaker:
Well, you know, the First
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Speaker:
Nations people in Australia do
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Speaker:
like the most powerful protests
386
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Speaker:
now.
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Speaker:
Have you seen them?
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Speaker:
Do they they like went into
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Speaker:
Congress and they were like
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Speaker:
chanting and they're
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Speaker:
traditional.
392
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Speaker:
Yeah.
393
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Speaker:
Yeah.
394
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Speaker:
Within like rhythm.
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Speaker:
And it was so beautiful to watch
because the facial expressions
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Speaker:
on their leader were like
fierce, like really fierce.
397
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Speaker:
And they were chanting all
together and they went and they
398
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Speaker:
ripped the bill that they were
protesting in half right in
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Speaker:
front of everybody.
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Speaker:
And, and it worked.
401
00:14:18,750 --> 00:14:20,070
Speaker:
That's a big yeah.
402
00:14:20,070 --> 00:14:20,830
Speaker:
That's cool.
403
00:14:20,830 --> 00:14:21,950
Speaker:
Yeah, that's really cool.
404
00:14:21,950 --> 00:14:24,269
Speaker:
to see, like they've persisted,
I guess.
405
00:14:24,269 --> 00:14:27,230
Speaker:
Yeah, I know, In some cases,
406
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Speaker:
reserves were turned into crown
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Speaker:
land and then divided into
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Speaker:
settlement blocks.
409
00:14:34,870 --> 00:14:36,429
Speaker:
Mhm.
410
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Speaker:
Mhm.
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Speaker:
Now your next lab libs, the
category was, were or were not.
412
00:14:44,389 --> 00:14:46,029
Speaker:
That was an interesting
category.
413
00:14:46,029 --> 00:14:46,509
Speaker:
I liked it.
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00:14:46,509 --> 00:14:48,230
Speaker:
I'm gonna give you the sentence.
415
00:14:48,230 --> 00:14:48,870
Speaker:
Okay.
416
00:14:48,870 --> 00:14:51,110
Speaker:
You're going to tell me what did
you put.
417
00:14:51,110 --> 00:14:53,470
Speaker:
I think I put were were okay.
418
00:14:53,470 --> 00:14:54,669
Speaker:
Let's see.
419
00:14:54,669 --> 00:14:56,149
Speaker:
Disgustingly.
420
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Speaker:
Aboriginal soldiers who had
fought in the war.
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Speaker:
Blank allowed to apply for land.
422
00:15:03,070 --> 00:15:04,590
Speaker:
And unsurprisingly.
423
00:15:04,590 --> 00:15:07,590
Speaker:
Are you fucking kidding me?
424
00:15:07,590 --> 00:15:10,070
Speaker:
Are you fucking kidding me?
425
00:15:10,070 --> 00:15:13,029
Speaker:
We're not allowed to apply for.
426
00:15:13,029 --> 00:15:14,799
Speaker:
I'm so mad.
427
00:15:14,799 --> 00:15:16,600
Speaker:
What the fuck?
428
00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,799
Speaker:
Yep, they took their land.
429
00:15:19,799 --> 00:15:23,120
Speaker:
And even if they did fight in
the war for them.
430
00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:23,679
Speaker:
That's right.
431
00:15:23,679 --> 00:15:25,559
Speaker:
They didn't get that benefit
back.
432
00:15:25,559 --> 00:15:26,320
Speaker:
That's right.
433
00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:27,519
Speaker:
They couldn't even apply.
434
00:15:27,519 --> 00:15:29,039
Speaker:
They couldn't even apply.
435
00:15:29,039 --> 00:15:29,799
Speaker:
They couldn't even.
436
00:15:29,799 --> 00:15:31,399
Speaker:
It's wild.
437
00:15:31,399 --> 00:15:32,960
Speaker:
That's so personal.
438
00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,720
Speaker:
That's so like fuck you
specifically.
439
00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:36,360
Speaker:
That is.
440
00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:37,840
Speaker:
Oh, man.
441
00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,740
Speaker:
And they also didn't receive a
lot of the benefits that, like,
442
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Speaker:
the white veterans got.
443
00:15:43,919 --> 00:15:45,080
Speaker:
Yeah.
444
00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:45,759
Speaker:
Mhm.
445
00:15:45,759 --> 00:15:49,600
Speaker:
So, man, sadly wrong on that
one.
446
00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:55,360
Speaker:
You are solidly wrong, for the
soldiers who did receive land.
447
00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,279
Speaker:
The scheme did not work very
well.
448
00:15:58,279 --> 00:15:59,840
Speaker:
Yeah.
449
00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:00,879
Speaker:
You're not.
450
00:16:00,879 --> 00:16:04,000
Speaker:
I was already kind of guessing
that it's a scheme.
451
00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,340
Speaker:
And schemes are not.
452
00:16:05,340 --> 00:16:07,220
Speaker:
I don't think they're ever gonna
really go that well.
453
00:16:07,220 --> 00:16:07,460
Speaker:
Right.
454
00:16:07,460 --> 00:16:09,419
Speaker:
And it's just a bad idea.
455
00:16:09,419 --> 00:16:10,700
Speaker:
Like logistically, once you
456
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Speaker:
think about it, like it's a
457
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Speaker:
terrible idea.
458
00:16:12,940 --> 00:16:14,659
Speaker:
And why would anybody want to be
a farmer?
459
00:16:14,659 --> 00:16:15,940
Speaker:
Why would anyone want to be a
farmer?
460
00:16:15,940 --> 00:16:18,500
Speaker:
Why would you need that many
farmers?
461
00:16:18,500 --> 00:16:20,539
Speaker:
Obviously that land was in use.
462
00:16:20,539 --> 00:16:22,820
Speaker:
Doing something, being something
463
00:16:22,820 --> 00:16:25,100
Speaker:
for people that is not a farm,
464
00:16:25,100 --> 00:16:25,620
Speaker:
right?
465
00:16:25,620 --> 00:16:29,960
Speaker:
Or it is a farm, and you're just
gonna walk in and take it over
466
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Speaker:
not knowing anything.
467
00:16:31,580 --> 00:16:32,539
Speaker:
Yeah.
468
00:16:32,539 --> 00:16:37,580
Speaker:
And, uh, yeah, there's so many
problems.
469
00:16:37,580 --> 00:16:39,139
Speaker:
Mhm.
470
00:16:39,139 --> 00:16:41,940
Speaker:
So your next category is.
471
00:16:43,460 --> 00:16:44,340
Speaker:
And, like.
472
00:16:44,340 --> 00:16:46,100
Speaker:
No, hate to the soldiers.
473
00:16:46,100 --> 00:16:49,179
Speaker:
I'm sure it's hard to fight in a
war and everything, but.
474
00:16:49,179 --> 00:16:53,139
Speaker:
But just because you did doesn't
mean you deserve that land over
475
00:16:53,139 --> 00:16:57,659
Speaker:
the people who've stewarded it
for their lives and their
476
00:16:57,659 --> 00:16:59,700
Speaker:
family's lives, of course.
477
00:16:59,700 --> 00:17:03,549
Speaker:
And there's other ways to
support the soldiers that came
478
00:17:03,549 --> 00:17:04,430
Speaker:
back from the war?
479
00:17:04,430 --> 00:17:04,750
Speaker:
Yeah.
480
00:17:04,750 --> 00:17:08,710
Speaker:
Why not just build an apartment
complex somewhere here?
481
00:17:08,710 --> 00:17:09,990
Speaker:
Learn how to code.
482
00:17:12,069 --> 00:17:14,190
Speaker:
Oh, okay.
483
00:17:14,190 --> 00:17:18,430
Speaker:
Your next category was problems
you might have with farming.
484
00:17:20,029 --> 00:17:22,109
Speaker:
The only thing I thought was
screwworm flies.
485
00:17:22,109 --> 00:17:22,509
Speaker:
Wow.
486
00:17:22,509 --> 00:17:23,269
Speaker:
Yeah, I know.
487
00:17:23,269 --> 00:17:24,150
Speaker:
I was like, mm.
488
00:17:24,150 --> 00:17:25,630
Speaker:
I see where you got that one
from.
489
00:17:25,630 --> 00:17:28,309
Speaker:
You said animal infections,
right?
490
00:17:28,309 --> 00:17:30,670
Speaker:
so many of the farms were in
491
00:17:30,670 --> 00:17:35,950
Speaker:
areas with poor soil, little
492
00:17:35,950 --> 00:17:37,750
Speaker:
rain and other difficult
493
00:17:37,750 --> 00:17:38,589
Speaker:
conditions.
494
00:17:38,589 --> 00:17:39,069
Speaker:
Mhm.
495
00:17:39,069 --> 00:17:44,109
Speaker:
Who does that remind us of for
fordlandia.
496
00:17:44,109 --> 00:17:45,589
Speaker:
Back to our roots.
497
00:17:47,269 --> 00:17:48,990
Speaker:
That's what I was thinking the
whole time.
498
00:17:48,990 --> 00:17:50,869
Speaker:
I was like, oh, here we go.
499
00:17:50,869 --> 00:17:52,470
Speaker:
Another scheme.
500
00:17:52,470 --> 00:17:53,549
Speaker:
Another scheme.
501
00:17:53,549 --> 00:17:55,750
Speaker:
Everybody thinks they can just
do shit.
502
00:17:55,750 --> 00:17:56,269
Speaker:
I know.
503
00:17:56,269 --> 00:17:58,349
Speaker:
And they don't need to like, no
shit at all.
504
00:17:58,349 --> 00:17:58,750
Speaker:
Nope.
505
00:17:58,750 --> 00:18:00,769
Speaker:
Don't need to know anything.
506
00:18:00,769 --> 00:18:02,049
Speaker:
Just make it happen.
507
00:18:02,049 --> 00:18:02,569
Speaker:
Yeah.
508
00:18:02,569 --> 00:18:04,369
Speaker:
Okay, so thousands of soldiers
509
00:18:04,369 --> 00:18:06,150
Speaker:
were settled in Western
510
00:18:06,150 --> 00:18:07,490
Speaker:
Australia, but the harsh
511
00:18:07,490 --> 00:18:09,049
Speaker:
environment made farming very
512
00:18:09,049 --> 00:18:09,609
Speaker:
hard.
513
00:18:10,930 --> 00:18:12,150
Speaker:
The land and the wheat belt
514
00:18:12,150 --> 00:18:14,970
Speaker:
region had once been a natural
515
00:18:14,970 --> 00:18:16,089
Speaker:
ecosystem.
516
00:18:16,089 --> 00:18:17,589
Speaker:
But by the early nineteen
517
00:18:17,589 --> 00:18:20,009
Speaker:
thirties, it had been cleared so
518
00:18:20,009 --> 00:18:22,289
Speaker:
that the former soldiers could
519
00:18:22,289 --> 00:18:22,890
Speaker:
grow.
520
00:18:22,890 --> 00:18:26,410
Speaker:
Your next lab libs a crop.
521
00:18:26,410 --> 00:18:27,450
Speaker:
You probably got it wrong.
522
00:18:27,450 --> 00:18:30,130
Speaker:
I said something so random soy
beans.
523
00:18:30,130 --> 00:18:31,650
Speaker:
That's not that random, though,
is it?
524
00:18:31,650 --> 00:18:33,250
Speaker:
I don't know if they have them
there.
525
00:18:33,250 --> 00:18:35,450
Speaker:
I don't know if that was a thing
so early.
526
00:18:35,450 --> 00:18:37,170
Speaker:
Like where were we like eating a
527
00:18:37,170 --> 00:18:38,650
Speaker:
bunch of soy beans like we are
528
00:18:38,650 --> 00:18:39,569
Speaker:
now?
529
00:18:39,569 --> 00:18:41,170
Speaker:
I don't know, I have no idea.
530
00:18:41,170 --> 00:18:43,210
Speaker:
I don't know, but it's in the
wheat belt.
531
00:18:43,210 --> 00:18:44,049
Speaker:
So what do you think?
532
00:18:44,049 --> 00:18:44,890
Speaker:
Probably wheat.
533
00:18:44,890 --> 00:18:45,609
Speaker:
It's probably wheat.
534
00:18:45,609 --> 00:18:45,849
Speaker:
Yeah.
535
00:18:45,849 --> 00:18:46,289
Speaker:
It's wheat.
536
00:18:46,289 --> 00:18:49,930
Speaker:
That's interesting because okay,
here's how bad I am at history.
537
00:18:49,930 --> 00:18:54,210
Speaker:
I spent so long one year when I
was a teacher teaching the kids
538
00:18:54,210 --> 00:18:55,490
Speaker:
about the Dust Bowl.
539
00:18:55,490 --> 00:18:59,700
Speaker:
Like that was like a huge
chapter in our curriculum.
540
00:18:59,700 --> 00:19:05,900
Speaker:
I don't remember what that is,
but I do remember it was like an
541
00:19:05,900 --> 00:19:10,660
Speaker:
era in American history in like
the nineteen thirties and the
542
00:19:10,660 --> 00:19:12,539
Speaker:
crops all dried up.
543
00:19:12,539 --> 00:19:14,740
Speaker:
I wonder if it's any relation,
544
00:19:14,740 --> 00:19:17,099
Speaker:
maybe to what was happening
545
00:19:17,099 --> 00:19:17,500
Speaker:
here.
546
00:19:17,500 --> 00:19:19,259
Speaker:
Because you're saying the crops
all dried up.
547
00:19:19,259 --> 00:19:21,660
Speaker:
It used to be wheat, and now
there's no more.
548
00:19:21,660 --> 00:19:22,380
Speaker:
It might be.
549
00:19:22,380 --> 00:19:23,900
Speaker:
It might correlate.
550
00:19:23,900 --> 00:19:25,059
Speaker:
Yeah.
551
00:19:25,059 --> 00:19:29,259
Speaker:
You might have to do a lab libs
on that though, because I've
552
00:19:29,259 --> 00:19:32,980
Speaker:
heard a lot about this Dust Bowl
thing, but I've actually never
553
00:19:32,980 --> 00:19:37,099
Speaker:
really learned to pull out my
old teaching curriculum and
554
00:19:37,099 --> 00:19:42,460
Speaker:
learn something from ninth grade
biology of Plant City High
555
00:19:42,460 --> 00:19:46,220
Speaker:
School to learn about it, but
I'm not gonna read about it.
556
00:19:46,220 --> 00:19:50,859
Speaker:
Yeah, I remember it was sort of
interesting.
557
00:19:50,859 --> 00:19:54,819
Speaker:
And then also though, it was
like, okay, we get it.
558
00:19:54,819 --> 00:19:56,680
Speaker:
It's dusty, We get it.
559
00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:57,319
Speaker:
It's dusty.
560
00:19:57,319 --> 00:19:58,279
Speaker:
Yeah, right.
561
00:19:58,279 --> 00:19:59,079
Speaker:
Right.
562
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,759
Speaker:
Okay, so what you're gonna also
563
00:20:03,759 --> 00:20:05,920
Speaker:
find here is that prices for
564
00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:06,960
Speaker:
wheat fell.
565
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,319
Speaker:
Go figure.
566
00:20:10,319 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker:
Everyone was growing wheat.
567
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:12,920
Speaker:
Yeah.
568
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,279
Speaker:
Supply and demand.
569
00:20:14,279 --> 00:20:16,039
Speaker:
That whole thing.
570
00:20:16,039 --> 00:20:20,160
Speaker:
And the government did not
always provide the financial
571
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,759
Speaker:
support it promised.
572
00:20:23,039 --> 00:20:26,480
Speaker:
Because of this, many farmers
struggled to survive.
573
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:27,319
Speaker:
Shocking.
574
00:20:27,319 --> 00:20:28,319
Speaker:
Mhm.
575
00:20:28,319 --> 00:20:35,579
Speaker:
By the early nineteen thirties,
a large number of soldier
576
00:20:35,579 --> 00:20:39,559
Speaker:
returned soldiers had already
left their farms.
577
00:20:39,559 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker:
Wait.
578
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:40,359
Speaker:
Okay.
579
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker:
Imagine you're one of these
farmers.
580
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:44,279
Speaker:
Okay.
581
00:20:44,279 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker:
You go.
582
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker:
Soldier.
583
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker:
Farmer.
584
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:46,519
Speaker:
Soldier.
585
00:20:46,519 --> 00:20:47,160
Speaker:
Farmer.
586
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:47,799
Speaker:
Mhm.
587
00:20:48,839 --> 00:20:52,880
Speaker:
You go there like you go back
home.
588
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,410
Speaker:
They're like, we're going to set
you up good.
589
00:20:55,410 --> 00:20:56,930
Speaker:
We're gonna teach you how to
farm.
590
00:20:56,930 --> 00:21:00,529
Speaker:
They've got brochures probably.
591
00:21:00,529 --> 00:21:02,630
Speaker:
They've got, like, real good
592
00:21:02,630 --> 00:21:05,089
Speaker:
salespeople talking you up right
593
00:21:05,089 --> 00:21:07,369
Speaker:
when you get home and you are
594
00:21:07,369 --> 00:21:09,490
Speaker:
lost because you've been in the
595
00:21:09,490 --> 00:21:11,250
Speaker:
war all this time and stuff and
596
00:21:11,250 --> 00:21:13,089
Speaker:
you latch on to it, I'm sure, of
597
00:21:13,089 --> 00:21:13,849
Speaker:
course, easily.
598
00:21:13,849 --> 00:21:15,930
Speaker:
And you're like, wow, this
sounds great.
599
00:21:15,930 --> 00:21:17,210
Speaker:
Yeah, yeah.
600
00:21:17,210 --> 00:21:19,970
Speaker:
Farm, you know, all for me, I'm
gonna make it big.
601
00:21:19,970 --> 00:21:21,970
Speaker:
I'm gonna like, have a
livelihood.
602
00:21:21,970 --> 00:21:23,329
Speaker:
Look at this animals and
603
00:21:23,329 --> 00:21:24,369
Speaker:
everything, and they're gonna
604
00:21:24,369 --> 00:21:25,049
Speaker:
help me.
605
00:21:25,049 --> 00:21:26,930
Speaker:
You look around and everybody's
606
00:21:26,930 --> 00:21:29,230
Speaker:
growing wheat and you get there,
607
00:21:29,230 --> 00:21:31,210
Speaker:
and then they just leave you
608
00:21:31,210 --> 00:21:31,809
Speaker:
there.
609
00:21:34,650 --> 00:21:39,089
Speaker:
Probably with, like, one
brochure about farming.
610
00:21:39,089 --> 00:21:39,809
Speaker:
Oh, God.
611
00:21:41,250 --> 00:21:42,690
Speaker:
And they're like, figure it out.
612
00:21:42,690 --> 00:21:44,569
Speaker:
What is wrong with people?
613
00:21:44,569 --> 00:21:46,170
Speaker:
Yeah, they never learn.
614
00:21:46,170 --> 00:21:49,369
Speaker:
Have they never even played
Settlers of Catan?
615
00:21:50,450 --> 00:21:52,509
Speaker:
Like you can't just everybody be
616
00:21:52,509 --> 00:21:54,789
Speaker:
having wheat because then when
617
00:21:54,789 --> 00:21:56,390
Speaker:
you need all the other stuff,
618
00:21:56,390 --> 00:21:57,930
Speaker:
everybody's only got wheat to
619
00:21:57,930 --> 00:21:58,869
Speaker:
train you.
620
00:21:58,869 --> 00:22:00,390
Speaker:
If you were gonna make everybody
621
00:22:00,390 --> 00:22:01,910
Speaker:
a farmer, you needed to really
622
00:22:01,910 --> 00:22:03,309
Speaker:
spread it around different
623
00:22:03,309 --> 00:22:03,789
Speaker:
crops.
624
00:22:03,789 --> 00:22:04,509
Speaker:
Yeah.
625
00:22:04,509 --> 00:22:06,910
Speaker:
What is everybody gonna do with
wheat?
626
00:22:06,910 --> 00:22:07,789
Speaker:
Just all wheat.
627
00:22:07,789 --> 00:22:08,710
Speaker:
All the time.
628
00:22:08,710 --> 00:22:09,950
Speaker:
It's so sad when you're playing.
629
00:22:09,950 --> 00:22:11,869
Speaker:
I don't know if you've ever
played that game, but it is so
630
00:22:11,869 --> 00:22:15,950
Speaker:
sad when you know, everyone's
got there's like four resources.
631
00:22:15,950 --> 00:22:16,549
Speaker:
Yeah.
632
00:22:16,549 --> 00:22:20,069
Speaker:
And you know that like you you
can.
633
00:22:20,069 --> 00:22:23,430
Speaker:
It's not secret what everyone's
been getting each time.
634
00:22:23,430 --> 00:22:29,269
Speaker:
You know, and, so like, it's the
saddest thing to be like, does
635
00:22:29,269 --> 00:22:30,750
Speaker:
anyone want any wheat?
636
00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:34,309
Speaker:
I'll trade wheat for anything.
637
00:22:34,309 --> 00:22:35,789
Speaker:
I'll give you two wheat.
638
00:22:40,269 --> 00:22:42,109
Speaker:
Oh, my God, that's so funny.
639
00:22:42,109 --> 00:22:43,670
Speaker:
And everyone stays silent.
640
00:22:44,670 --> 00:22:46,789
Speaker:
No one wants your wheat.
641
00:22:46,789 --> 00:22:47,430
Speaker:
Okay.
642
00:22:47,430 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker:
So the whole Scheme at this
point is like becoming
643
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,559
Speaker:
considered a failure, right?
644
00:22:53,559 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker:
Yeah.
645
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker:
So just when conditions were
already bad for the farmers,
646
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker:
another problem appeared.
647
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,079
Speaker:
In nineteen thirty two, a severe
drought.
648
00:23:04,079 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker:
Oh, great.
649
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker:
Oh, great.
650
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker:
So that's why I said maybe it
651
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,279
Speaker:
does correlate with the Dust
652
00:23:09,279 --> 00:23:09,599
Speaker:
bowl.
653
00:23:09,599 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker:
Yeah.
654
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:10,799
Speaker:
Because if that was in the
655
00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker:
thirties, then maybe it's the
656
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker:
same.
657
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker:
Yeah.
658
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker:
Maybe.
659
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker:
Yeah.
660
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker:
Okay.
661
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker:
So, um.
662
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,839
Speaker:
Huge drought.
663
00:23:18,839 --> 00:23:19,319
Speaker:
Wonderful.
664
00:23:19,319 --> 00:23:19,599
Speaker:
Right?
665
00:23:19,599 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker:
Wonderful.
666
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker:
Mhm.
667
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,599
Speaker:
Um, but those wheat prices went
back up.
668
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker:
settlers found themselves now
669
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,619
Speaker:
fighting a war at home to the
670
00:23:31,619 --> 00:23:34,259
Speaker:
enemy force moved in over the
671
00:23:34,259 --> 00:23:35,579
Speaker:
countryside.
672
00:23:35,579 --> 00:23:38,259
Speaker:
They were always in constant
motion.
673
00:23:38,259 --> 00:23:42,460
Speaker:
They traveled long distances and
were considered nomadic.
674
00:23:42,460 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker:
Was it the idle men?
675
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,759
Speaker:
Gangs of idle men?
676
00:23:46,759 --> 00:23:52,039
Speaker:
No. Taking over the cities.
677
00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:53,839
Speaker:
So your next one is.
678
00:23:53,839 --> 00:23:55,799
Speaker:
What was it?
679
00:23:55,799 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker:
You can't.
680
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,079
Speaker:
You're not gonna tell me?
681
00:23:57,079 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker:
I'll tell you in a minute.
682
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker:
Oh my goodness, the suspense.
683
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,839
Speaker:
A number between one and ten.
684
00:24:01,839 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker:
No.
685
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker:
Yeah.
686
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,799
Speaker:
And you said six.
687
00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:10,599
Speaker:
And many stood nearly six feet
tall.
688
00:24:10,599 --> 00:24:12,319
Speaker:
I was right, you were right.
689
00:24:12,319 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker:
And appeared to wear rough fur
like coats.
690
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker:
Oh, I'm so confused.
691
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker:
And then your next one is a
color.
692
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,519
Speaker:
And they're moving vast
693
00:24:24,519 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker:
distances and like they're
694
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker:
nomadic.
695
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker:
Oh, yeah.
696
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker:
Maybe.
697
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker:
Is this an inanimate object?
698
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker:
Is this like, like hay bales or
something?
699
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker:
Mhm.
700
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker:
That's a good guess.
701
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:45,609
Speaker:
Okay, so your next one is a
color and the sentence goes.
702
00:24:45,609 --> 00:24:49,130
Speaker:
This army had sharp, blank eyes
703
00:24:49,130 --> 00:24:50,849
Speaker:
that seemed to watch everything
704
00:24:50,849 --> 00:24:51,490
Speaker:
at once.
705
00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:52,849
Speaker:
You said purple.
706
00:24:52,849 --> 00:24:53,690
Speaker:
What do you think?
707
00:24:53,690 --> 00:24:54,609
Speaker:
Purple?
708
00:24:54,609 --> 00:24:55,849
Speaker:
No. Purple eyes?
709
00:24:55,849 --> 00:24:57,450
Speaker:
No, that'd be cool.
710
00:24:57,450 --> 00:24:59,009
Speaker:
No, but they're pretty cool.
711
00:24:59,009 --> 00:25:00,369
Speaker:
They're golden orange.
712
00:25:00,369 --> 00:25:01,609
Speaker:
Oh, yeah.
713
00:25:01,609 --> 00:25:02,930
Speaker:
It's got to be some kind of
animal.
714
00:25:02,930 --> 00:25:08,690
Speaker:
I'm thinking, um, the sounds
coming from this army were deep
715
00:25:08,690 --> 00:25:11,490
Speaker:
booming, drumming and grunting.
716
00:25:11,490 --> 00:25:14,869
Speaker:
it's Australia so it's going to
be something insane.
717
00:25:14,869 --> 00:25:15,950
Speaker:
That is something insane.
718
00:25:15,950 --> 00:25:16,309
Speaker:
Is it?
719
00:25:16,309 --> 00:25:17,269
Speaker:
Kangaroos?
720
00:25:17,269 --> 00:25:18,430
Speaker:
Can't be.
721
00:25:18,430 --> 00:25:19,509
Speaker:
No.
722
00:25:19,509 --> 00:25:19,869
Speaker:
Okay.
723
00:25:19,869 --> 00:25:25,390
Speaker:
Wolves category is a number less
than fifty.
724
00:25:25,390 --> 00:25:27,230
Speaker:
You said twenty nine.
725
00:25:27,230 --> 00:25:27,910
Speaker:
Mhm.
726
00:25:27,910 --> 00:25:29,670
Speaker:
Okay, you tell me.
727
00:25:29,670 --> 00:25:32,180
Speaker:
They could run nearly blank.
728
00:25:32,180 --> 00:25:33,900
Speaker:
Miles an hour.
729
00:25:33,900 --> 00:25:35,660
Speaker:
You said twenty nine.
730
00:25:35,660 --> 00:25:37,339
Speaker:
What do you think?
731
00:25:37,339 --> 00:25:38,500
Speaker:
That's scary.
732
00:25:38,500 --> 00:25:40,220
Speaker:
If they can run thirty miles an
733
00:25:40,220 --> 00:25:41,660
Speaker:
hour, they can run thirty miles
734
00:25:41,660 --> 00:25:42,099
Speaker:
an hour.
735
00:25:42,099 --> 00:25:43,539
Speaker:
Oh my God.
736
00:25:43,539 --> 00:25:44,579
Speaker:
Nearly thirty.
737
00:25:44,579 --> 00:25:46,180
Speaker:
So maybe I was right.
738
00:25:46,180 --> 00:25:47,420
Speaker:
Exactly.
739
00:25:47,420 --> 00:25:53,940
Speaker:
And that's your next one is a
single digit number.
740
00:25:53,940 --> 00:25:59,980
Speaker:
And it says and we're said to
take blank foot long strides.
741
00:25:59,980 --> 00:26:02,660
Speaker:
That allowed them to outrun both
742
00:26:02,660 --> 00:26:05,339
Speaker:
soldiers and vehicles with ese
743
00:26:05,339 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker:
vehicles.
744
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,319
Speaker:
You said three three foot long
strides.
745
00:26:11,319 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker:
Strides.
746
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker:
Mhm.
747
00:26:13,799 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker:
What do you think?
748
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:14,759
Speaker:
Yeah.
749
00:26:14,759 --> 00:26:18,279
Speaker:
I feel like if they're going
thirty miles an hour, they take
750
00:26:18,279 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker:
nine foot long.
751
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker:
Nine nine foot strong.
752
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker:
Yeah.
753
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker:
Foot strong foot long strides.
754
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:24,599
Speaker:
Yeah.
755
00:26:24,599 --> 00:26:30,490
Speaker:
Nine foot long strides that
enabled them to outrun both
756
00:26:30,490 --> 00:26:33,289
Speaker:
soldiers and vehicles with ease.
757
00:26:33,289 --> 00:26:34,970
Speaker:
My fee is.
758
00:26:34,970 --> 00:26:36,930
Speaker:
I can't even picture.
759
00:26:36,930 --> 00:26:38,730
Speaker:
What would I know, right?
760
00:26:38,730 --> 00:26:41,529
Speaker:
Walk nine feet in one step.
761
00:26:41,529 --> 00:26:44,009
Speaker:
What, like a really large
animal?
762
00:26:44,009 --> 00:26:45,970
Speaker:
But you said it's six feet tall.
763
00:26:45,970 --> 00:26:46,809
Speaker:
Mhm.
764
00:26:46,809 --> 00:26:48,490
Speaker:
It's got to be like some kind of
wolf.
765
00:26:48,490 --> 00:26:49,730
Speaker:
Like they're leaping.
766
00:26:49,730 --> 00:26:50,450
Speaker:
Sort of.
767
00:26:50,450 --> 00:26:51,769
Speaker:
Yeah.
768
00:26:51,769 --> 00:26:55,730
Speaker:
Okay, so your next item is a
very subjective one.
769
00:26:55,730 --> 00:27:00,130
Speaker:
I said a large number, one
billion dollars dollars, which I
770
00:27:00,130 --> 00:27:01,250
Speaker:
did not ask for.
771
00:27:01,250 --> 00:27:09,250
Speaker:
No, but I mean, so you said one
billion nearly blank of these
772
00:27:09,250 --> 00:27:13,250
Speaker:
intruders arrived trying to
escape the drought.
773
00:27:13,250 --> 00:27:15,049
Speaker:
Billion.
774
00:27:15,049 --> 00:27:16,170
Speaker:
God, I hope not.
775
00:27:16,170 --> 00:27:18,250
Speaker:
No, but it is twenty thousand.
776
00:27:18,250 --> 00:27:19,609
Speaker:
What?
777
00:27:19,609 --> 00:27:20,730
Speaker:
That's a pretty big number.
778
00:27:20,730 --> 00:27:22,009
Speaker:
The hell of intruders.
779
00:27:22,009 --> 00:27:22,970
Speaker:
What is it?
780
00:27:22,970 --> 00:27:25,089
Speaker:
Oh, I'm so like.
781
00:27:25,089 --> 00:27:26,329
Speaker:
I'm scared.
782
00:27:27,670 --> 00:27:29,230
Speaker:
to find out.
783
00:27:29,230 --> 00:27:33,349
Speaker:
They destroyed crops and tore
down fences.
784
00:27:33,349 --> 00:27:37,069
Speaker:
And now the settler, the
settler, soldier, soul.
785
00:27:37,069 --> 00:27:40,069
Speaker:
And now the settler soldiers
786
00:27:40,069 --> 00:27:42,630
Speaker:
demanded military help from the
787
00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:44,670
Speaker:
Australian government.
788
00:27:44,670 --> 00:27:45,549
Speaker:
Wow.
789
00:27:45,549 --> 00:27:46,829
Speaker:
Yeah, maybe.
790
00:27:46,829 --> 00:27:50,430
Speaker:
I think it could be like Bauhaus
or something to, um.
791
00:27:50,430 --> 00:27:55,230
Speaker:
The Army expected a quick
victory, but the enemy did not
792
00:27:55,230 --> 00:27:57,069
Speaker:
behave as planned.
793
00:27:59,150 --> 00:28:02,349
Speaker:
The emus were not there to fuck
around.
794
00:28:02,349 --> 00:28:04,069
Speaker:
EMUs?
795
00:28:04,069 --> 00:28:06,549
Speaker:
Holy shit.
796
00:28:06,549 --> 00:28:10,150
Speaker:
Oh my God, my mom is scared of
emus.
797
00:28:10,150 --> 00:28:10,750
Speaker:
Really?
798
00:28:10,750 --> 00:28:11,069
Speaker:
Yeah.
799
00:28:11,069 --> 00:28:13,490
Speaker:
One time we went through a drive
800
00:28:13,490 --> 00:28:16,130
Speaker:
through safari type of thing and
801
00:28:16,130 --> 00:28:17,849
Speaker:
it, like, really tried to peck
802
00:28:17,849 --> 00:28:18,390
Speaker:
at her.
803
00:28:18,390 --> 00:28:20,470
Speaker:
Oh my gosh, with the window
open.
804
00:28:20,470 --> 00:28:21,670
Speaker:
Oh my gosh, that's crazy.
805
00:28:21,670 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker:
Yeah, they're kind of wild
looking.
806
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker:
I think it happened to her when
she was a kid, too, and she was
807
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker:
she's not not a fan of our plan
to go on the safari thing.
808
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker:
And we were like, it'll be fine.
809
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:32,559
Speaker:
It'll be fine.
810
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker:
It's gonna be great.
811
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:39,559
Speaker:
And then again, okay, so the,
the emus were not there to whoa,
812
00:28:39,559 --> 00:28:41,599
Speaker:
twenty zero zero zero emus.
813
00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker:
Mhm.
814
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker:
I know emus can go nine feet in
one step.
815
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:47,039
Speaker:
Mhm.
816
00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker:
That's terrifying.
817
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:49,599
Speaker:
They're six feet tall.
818
00:28:49,599 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker:
They're six feet.
819
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker:
I don't like that image.
820
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,039
Speaker:
That is nuts, right?
821
00:28:57,039 --> 00:29:00,279
Speaker:
Yeah, I know, and run thirty
miles an hour.
822
00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker:
Okay, so if they were attacked,
823
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,599
Speaker:
they scattered into smaller
824
00:29:04,599 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker:
groups and then returned from
825
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,759
Speaker:
different directions.
826
00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:12,599
Speaker:
And it made them almost
impossible to stop them.
827
00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker:
Wow.
828
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker:
One Army observer reported that
829
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,829
Speaker:
the emus even appeared to
830
00:29:19,829 --> 00:29:21,259
Speaker:
organize themselves.
831
00:29:21,259 --> 00:29:21,940
Speaker:
Oh my God.
832
00:29:21,940 --> 00:29:23,140
Speaker:
And they're smart.
833
00:29:23,140 --> 00:29:25,420
Speaker:
This is this is your quote from
earlier.
834
00:29:25,420 --> 00:29:27,779
Speaker:
A large single figure at six
835
00:29:27,779 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker:
feet high would stand and watch
836
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,220
Speaker:
like a leader, while the others
837
00:29:32,220 --> 00:29:34,019
Speaker:
continued their destruction and
838
00:29:34,019 --> 00:29:35,299
Speaker:
warning the group whenever
839
00:29:35,299 --> 00:29:36,940
Speaker:
soldiers approached.
840
00:29:36,940 --> 00:29:38,299
Speaker:
Whoa!
841
00:29:38,299 --> 00:29:39,220
Speaker:
Yeah.
842
00:29:39,220 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker:
So as the campaign went on, the
soldiers realized that they were
843
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,339
Speaker:
facing an opponent perfectly
suited for this land.
844
00:29:47,339 --> 00:29:50,099
Speaker:
They were fast coordinated and
adapting.
845
00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:55,660
Speaker:
So emus are large flightless
846
00:29:55,660 --> 00:29:57,539
Speaker:
birds that only live in
847
00:29:57,539 --> 00:29:58,220
Speaker:
Australia.
848
00:29:58,220 --> 00:29:59,700
Speaker:
Okay?
849
00:29:59,700 --> 00:30:04,940
Speaker:
They are the second tallest bird
in the world, and they stand
850
00:30:04,940 --> 00:30:07,660
Speaker:
around six feet high.
851
00:30:07,660 --> 00:30:08,940
Speaker:
Do you know what the tallest is?
852
00:30:08,940 --> 00:30:10,220
Speaker:
I think that was ostrich.
853
00:30:10,220 --> 00:30:10,539
Speaker:
Okay.
854
00:30:10,539 --> 00:30:11,819
Speaker:
Yeah, that's what I was
thinking.
855
00:30:11,819 --> 00:30:15,819
Speaker:
your next lab was a body part.
856
00:30:15,819 --> 00:30:19,309
Speaker:
Do ostriches live in Australia
too?
857
00:30:19,309 --> 00:30:20,269
Speaker:
I don't think so.
858
00:30:20,269 --> 00:30:21,950
Speaker:
No, that sounds wrong.
859
00:30:21,950 --> 00:30:23,109
Speaker:
Yeah, I don't think so.
860
00:30:23,109 --> 00:30:23,990
Speaker:
Okay.
861
00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:24,509
Speaker:
A body part.
862
00:30:24,509 --> 00:30:25,430
Speaker:
I don't know where they live.
863
00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:26,430
Speaker:
I don't know where they live.
864
00:30:26,430 --> 00:30:26,950
Speaker:
Nope.
865
00:30:26,950 --> 00:30:27,549
Speaker:
A body part.
866
00:30:27,549 --> 00:30:28,829
Speaker:
You said torso.
867
00:30:28,829 --> 00:30:29,069
Speaker:
Yeah.
868
00:30:29,069 --> 00:30:31,869
Speaker:
So. But standing around six feet
869
00:30:31,869 --> 00:30:34,329
Speaker:
high with long, blank, strong
870
00:30:34,329 --> 00:30:36,349
Speaker:
muscles that allow them to run
871
00:30:36,349 --> 00:30:38,230
Speaker:
very fast.
872
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:39,470
Speaker:
Long legs.
873
00:30:39,470 --> 00:30:39,869
Speaker:
Mhm.
874
00:30:39,869 --> 00:30:41,470
Speaker:
Yeah, yeah.
875
00:30:41,470 --> 00:30:44,490
Speaker:
So they are they are also
876
00:30:44,490 --> 00:30:46,750
Speaker:
nomadic, meaning that they move
877
00:30:46,750 --> 00:30:48,910
Speaker:
long distances when food or
878
00:30:48,910 --> 00:30:51,309
Speaker:
water is scarce because of the
879
00:30:51,309 --> 00:30:51,670
Speaker:
drought.
880
00:30:51,670 --> 00:30:56,029
Speaker:
Many emus gathered in huge
881
00:30:56,029 --> 00:30:58,269
Speaker:
groups and moved into the
882
00:30:58,269 --> 00:31:00,789
Speaker:
farming land, which caused some
883
00:31:00,789 --> 00:31:02,069
Speaker:
serious problems for the
884
00:31:02,069 --> 00:31:03,710
Speaker:
settlers who were already
885
00:31:03,710 --> 00:31:04,430
Speaker:
struggling.
886
00:31:04,430 --> 00:31:06,109
Speaker:
Oh, man.
887
00:31:06,109 --> 00:31:08,269
Speaker:
When the farmers asked for the
888
00:31:08,269 --> 00:31:10,210
Speaker:
government's help, because many
889
00:31:10,210 --> 00:31:12,380
Speaker:
of them were former soldiers,
890
00:31:12,380 --> 00:31:15,069
Speaker:
They suggested using military
891
00:31:15,069 --> 00:31:16,630
Speaker:
weapons.
892
00:31:16,630 --> 00:31:17,390
Speaker:
Damn.
893
00:31:17,390 --> 00:31:19,470
Speaker:
That's dark.
894
00:31:19,470 --> 00:31:20,190
Speaker:
Mhm.
895
00:31:20,190 --> 00:31:22,190
Speaker:
Just kill all the emus.
896
00:31:22,190 --> 00:31:23,589
Speaker:
Yeah.
897
00:31:23,589 --> 00:31:25,190
Speaker:
It's not.
898
00:31:25,190 --> 00:31:29,029
Speaker:
And it also might be EMU for
plural, but I don't know because
899
00:31:29,029 --> 00:31:30,109
Speaker:
I don't look it up.
900
00:31:30,109 --> 00:31:34,069
Speaker:
So I like saying emu emus.
901
00:31:34,069 --> 00:31:34,710
Speaker:
Yeah.
902
00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:35,630
Speaker:
Yeah.
903
00:31:35,630 --> 00:31:40,029
Speaker:
So your next lab libs was a
weapon?
904
00:31:40,029 --> 00:31:41,230
Speaker:
You said a dagger.
905
00:31:41,230 --> 00:31:42,269
Speaker:
That seems wrong.
906
00:31:42,269 --> 00:31:44,390
Speaker:
I don't think a dagger is gonna
be real helpful.
907
00:31:44,390 --> 00:31:45,069
Speaker:
Very wrong.
908
00:31:45,069 --> 00:31:45,309
Speaker:
Yeah.
909
00:31:45,309 --> 00:31:47,470
Speaker:
I feel like it's gonna be, like,
rifle or something.
910
00:31:47,470 --> 00:31:48,589
Speaker:
Yeah.
911
00:31:48,589 --> 00:31:49,430
Speaker:
Yeah.
912
00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:54,230
Speaker:
The settlers knew how effective
machine guns could be.
913
00:31:54,230 --> 00:31:58,190
Speaker:
They're gonna try to kill all
the emus with machine guns.
914
00:31:58,190 --> 00:31:58,670
Speaker:
Yeah.
915
00:31:58,670 --> 00:31:59,390
Speaker:
That's how.
916
00:31:59,390 --> 00:32:04,150
Speaker:
That's how, like, oh, p the emus
are like.
917
00:32:05,630 --> 00:32:09,230
Speaker:
They need machine guns on their
fuckers.
918
00:32:09,230 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker:
Oh, no. They knew.
919
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker:
How effective are you about to
920
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,519
Speaker:
tell me that the emus defeated
921
00:32:16,519 --> 00:32:18,279
Speaker:
the machine gun wielding
922
00:32:18,279 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker:
soldiers?
923
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker:
Oh my God, I love them.
924
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker:
I love them so much right now.
925
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,319
Speaker:
The settlers knew how effective
926
00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker:
machine guns could be and
927
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker:
requested them to deal with the
928
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker:
birds.
929
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,519
Speaker:
Yeah, but they did.
930
00:32:33,079 --> 00:32:38,140
Speaker:
The Minister of Defence, Sir
George Pearce, agreed to send
931
00:32:38,140 --> 00:32:39,559
Speaker:
soldiers to help.
932
00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:43,079
Speaker:
This decision led to what later
933
00:32:43,079 --> 00:32:45,940
Speaker:
became known as the Great EMU
934
00:32:45,940 --> 00:32:46,359
Speaker:
War.
935
00:32:46,359 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker:
Oh, no. What do you mean, sent
soldiers?
936
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker:
The soldiers are already there.
937
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker:
Just send the machine guns.
938
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker:
You didn't magically transform
these soldiers into farmers.
939
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker:
They are still soldiers.
940
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:56,799
Speaker:
Soldiers?
941
00:32:56,799 --> 00:32:58,559
Speaker:
Why don't you just hand them
machine guns?
942
00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:01,519
Speaker:
Yeah, tell them get to work.
943
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:05,519
Speaker:
Okay, so now they sent more
soldiers to the farmlands.
944
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker:
But now, instead of trying to
945
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker:
turn them into farmers they're
946
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,319
Speaker:
trying to wage war against the
947
00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:11,299
Speaker:
emus.
948
00:33:11,299 --> 00:33:12,339
Speaker:
Mhm.
949
00:33:12,339 --> 00:33:12,740
Speaker:
Yep.
950
00:33:12,740 --> 00:33:14,460
Speaker:
The great emu war.
951
00:33:14,460 --> 00:33:15,740
Speaker:
The great emu war.
952
00:33:15,740 --> 00:33:16,259
Speaker:
Wow.
953
00:33:16,259 --> 00:33:17,140
Speaker:
Yeah.
954
00:33:17,140 --> 00:33:22,700
Speaker:
So the operation began in
November of nineteen thirty two.
955
00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:28,339
Speaker:
And your next lab was a number
less than fifty.
956
00:33:28,339 --> 00:33:30,380
Speaker:
You said seventeen?
957
00:33:30,380 --> 00:33:31,460
Speaker:
Yeah.
958
00:33:31,460 --> 00:33:35,539
Speaker:
They sent blank soldiers to deal
with the problem.
959
00:33:35,539 --> 00:33:36,420
Speaker:
What do you think?
960
00:33:36,420 --> 00:33:38,019
Speaker:
You said a number less than
fifty.
961
00:33:38,019 --> 00:33:39,099
Speaker:
Yeah.
962
00:33:39,099 --> 00:33:40,900
Speaker:
They only sent less than fifty
soldiers.
963
00:33:40,900 --> 00:33:42,740
Speaker:
Less than fifty to deal with the
emus.
964
00:33:42,740 --> 00:33:43,019
Speaker:
Yeah.
965
00:33:43,019 --> 00:33:44,099
Speaker:
Wow.
966
00:33:44,099 --> 00:33:45,740
Speaker:
Yeah, like thirty or something?
967
00:33:45,740 --> 00:33:46,259
Speaker:
Yeah.
968
00:33:46,259 --> 00:33:47,019
Speaker:
Three.
969
00:33:47,019 --> 00:33:47,579
Speaker:
Three.
970
00:33:47,579 --> 00:33:48,539
Speaker:
They sent three soldiers.
971
00:33:48,539 --> 00:33:50,059
Speaker:
They sent three soldiers to deal
972
00:33:50,059 --> 00:33:52,380
Speaker:
with twenty thousand emus with
973
00:33:52,380 --> 00:33:53,259
Speaker:
machine guns.
974
00:33:53,259 --> 00:33:56,299
Speaker:
Three soldiers with machine guns
to.
975
00:34:00,019 --> 00:34:02,430
Speaker:
How many bullets?
976
00:34:02,430 --> 00:34:03,750
Speaker:
That's crazy.
977
00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:05,230
Speaker:
That's crazy.
978
00:34:05,230 --> 00:34:06,829
Speaker:
Oh my God.
979
00:34:06,829 --> 00:34:14,489
Speaker:
So they sent major G p W
Meredith, Sergeant S McMurray
980
00:34:14,489 --> 00:34:21,190
Speaker:
and gunner, which I thought
meant someone that shoots.
981
00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:22,349
Speaker:
No, that's his name.
982
00:34:22,349 --> 00:34:23,829
Speaker:
No, that is what it means.
983
00:34:23,829 --> 00:34:26,150
Speaker:
I looked it up because I was
like.
984
00:34:26,150 --> 00:34:29,110
Speaker:
I always assumed gunner meant
like the shooter.
985
00:34:29,110 --> 00:34:31,230
Speaker:
Only one of them was the
shooter.
986
00:34:31,230 --> 00:34:33,710
Speaker:
One shooter, one gunner.
987
00:34:33,710 --> 00:34:37,190
Speaker:
Gunner, j o Halloran.
988
00:34:37,190 --> 00:34:41,829
Speaker:
Okay, so did the EMUs massacre
those three men?
989
00:34:41,829 --> 00:34:43,590
Speaker:
No, that's what I feel like
happened.
990
00:34:43,590 --> 00:34:47,650
Speaker:
No. they were given two Lewis
machine guns.
991
00:34:47,650 --> 00:34:48,650
Speaker:
So only two.
992
00:34:48,650 --> 00:34:52,010
Speaker:
Two machine guns for twenty zero
zero zero emus.
993
00:34:52,010 --> 00:34:54,570
Speaker:
Yeah, they really underestimated
this.
994
00:34:54,570 --> 00:34:58,050
Speaker:
And thousands of rounds of
ammunition.
995
00:34:58,050 --> 00:34:59,829
Speaker:
I hope twenty thousand at least
996
00:34:59,829 --> 00:35:00,989
Speaker:
because there's twenty zero zero
997
00:35:00,989 --> 00:35:02,150
Speaker:
zero emus.
998
00:35:02,150 --> 00:35:03,070
Speaker:
Yeah.
999
00:35:03,070 --> 00:35:04,769
Speaker:
Their mission was to reduce the
1000
00:35:04,769 --> 00:35:06,550
Speaker:
emu population and protect the
1001
00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:07,030
Speaker:
crops.
1002
00:35:07,030 --> 00:35:09,650
Speaker:
At first the plan seemed simple,
1003
00:35:09,650 --> 00:35:13,630
Speaker:
but I feel like I start with
1004
00:35:13,630 --> 00:35:15,909
Speaker:
that sentence so often in these
1005
00:35:15,909 --> 00:35:16,349
Speaker:
things.
1006
00:35:16,349 --> 00:35:18,590
Speaker:
At first, the plan seemed really
simple.
1007
00:35:18,590 --> 00:35:20,789
Speaker:
Yeah, just like giving all the
1008
00:35:20,789 --> 00:35:22,510
Speaker:
soldiers farmland seemed really
1009
00:35:22,510 --> 00:35:23,150
Speaker:
simple.
1010
00:35:23,150 --> 00:35:24,630
Speaker:
Exactly.
1011
00:35:24,630 --> 00:35:27,010
Speaker:
but it quickly went wrong.
1012
00:35:27,010 --> 00:35:29,210
Speaker:
On the first day, locals tried
1013
00:35:29,210 --> 00:35:32,010
Speaker:
to herd the birds into one place
1014
00:35:32,010 --> 00:35:33,929
Speaker:
so that the soldiers could shoot
1015
00:35:33,929 --> 00:35:34,809
Speaker:
them all.
1016
00:35:34,809 --> 00:35:34,969
Speaker:
Uh.
1017
00:35:34,969 --> 00:35:35,250
Speaker:
Huh.
1018
00:35:35,250 --> 00:35:39,530
Speaker:
But the emus split into smaller
groups and scattered so they
1019
00:35:39,530 --> 00:35:41,570
Speaker:
couldn't hurt, right?
1020
00:35:41,570 --> 00:35:44,090
Speaker:
Haven't they been already doing
that?
1021
00:35:44,090 --> 00:35:44,690
Speaker:
What?
1022
00:35:44,690 --> 00:35:45,250
Speaker:
Scattering.
1023
00:35:45,250 --> 00:35:45,809
Speaker:
Scattering?
1024
00:35:45,809 --> 00:35:49,590
Speaker:
No, but, even when you try to
herd them, they would all split
1025
00:35:49,590 --> 00:35:50,670
Speaker:
in separate directions.
1026
00:35:50,670 --> 00:35:54,070
Speaker:
So you can't like you can't
guess.
1027
00:35:54,070 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker:
You can't grab more than one
1028
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker:
because they're, you know, all
1029
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,039
Speaker:
splitting up.
1030
00:35:59,039 --> 00:35:59,679
Speaker:
They're smart.
1031
00:35:59,679 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker:
a few days later, the soldiers
1032
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,639
Speaker:
tried to ambush a large group,
1033
00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker:
but the gun got jammed at the
1034
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker:
wrong moment.
1035
00:36:10,599 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker:
Oh, man, this is like a like a
old cartoon.
1036
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,599
Speaker:
So even when they saw hundreds
of the birds, they were not able
1037
00:36:18,599 --> 00:36:20,199
Speaker:
to shoot many of them.
1038
00:36:20,199 --> 00:36:21,079
Speaker:
Wow.
1039
00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:22,159
Speaker:
The soldiers tried other
1040
00:36:22,159 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker:
methods, including mounting a
1041
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker:
machine gun on the truck so that
1042
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker:
they could chase the birds while
1043
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker:
firing.
1044
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,679
Speaker:
Even that didn't work.
1045
00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker:
This also failed.
1046
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker:
The ground was rough and the
truck and the truck was too slow
1047
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker:
to keep up with the emus.
1048
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker:
The ride was so bumpy that the
1049
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,559
Speaker:
gunner could not aim at the
1050
00:36:43,559 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker:
birds.
1051
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker:
Yeah.
1052
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,119
Speaker:
Reports began to spread that the
1053
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:49,039
Speaker:
birds were faster and smarter
1054
00:36:49,039 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker:
than expected.
1055
00:36:51,420 --> 00:36:54,099
Speaker:
This sounds so funny to witness.
1056
00:36:54,099 --> 00:36:58,219
Speaker:
Their appearances also made them
difficult targets.
1057
00:36:58,219 --> 00:37:00,500
Speaker:
Their bodies were covered in
1058
00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:02,659
Speaker:
loose, shaggy feathers that
1059
00:37:02,659 --> 00:37:04,860
Speaker:
moved in the wind, making it
1060
00:37:04,860 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker:
hard to see where to aim on
1061
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:07,500
Speaker:
them.
1062
00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:10,260
Speaker:
And if they think about their
feathers, instead of using their
1063
00:37:10,260 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker:
body, if their feathers are all
over the place like, yeah, how
1064
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,780
Speaker:
are you going to know exactly
where to shoot?
1065
00:37:15,780 --> 00:37:16,699
Speaker:
Right?
1066
00:37:16,699 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker:
I thought that made a lot of
sense.
1067
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,039
Speaker:
I was like, oh, I guess that's
true.
1068
00:37:20,039 --> 00:37:25,219
Speaker:
their heads and necks were long
and thin, so that gave the
1069
00:37:25,219 --> 00:37:27,500
Speaker:
gunner a really small target.
1070
00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:32,380
Speaker:
And when they ran at full speed,
they would just disappear into
1071
00:37:32,380 --> 00:37:33,099
Speaker:
the tall grass.
1072
00:37:33,099 --> 00:37:37,659
Speaker:
Then you can't shoot them in the
neck like long thin neck, right?
1073
00:37:37,659 --> 00:37:38,539
Speaker:
Yeah.
1074
00:37:38,539 --> 00:37:40,079
Speaker:
they're fast and agile.
1075
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:42,809
Speaker:
People started to find the
situation almost funny.
1076
00:37:42,809 --> 00:37:43,489
Speaker:
Yeah.
1077
00:37:43,489 --> 00:37:44,489
Speaker:
It's hilarious.
1078
00:37:44,489 --> 00:37:45,849
Speaker:
It's really funny.
1079
00:37:45,849 --> 00:37:50,530
Speaker:
And observers noticed that the
emus seemed to act in organized
1080
00:37:50,530 --> 00:37:55,090
Speaker:
groups with one bird standing
watch while the others fed.
1081
00:37:55,090 --> 00:37:56,250
Speaker:
I left out part of it.
1082
00:37:56,250 --> 00:37:57,289
Speaker:
So you didn't know what it was.
1083
00:37:57,289 --> 00:37:59,650
Speaker:
But one observer said that each
1084
00:37:59,650 --> 00:38:01,969
Speaker:
group appeared to have a leader
1085
00:38:01,969 --> 00:38:04,889
Speaker:
described as a big black plumed
1086
00:38:04,889 --> 00:38:07,369
Speaker:
bird, which stands fully six
1087
00:38:07,369 --> 00:38:09,530
Speaker:
feet high and keeps watch while
1088
00:38:09,530 --> 00:38:11,329
Speaker:
his mates carry out their work
1089
00:38:11,329 --> 00:38:12,489
Speaker:
of destruction.
1090
00:38:12,489 --> 00:38:13,610
Speaker:
That was your quote Oh.
1091
00:38:13,610 --> 00:38:14,090
Speaker:
Oh, okay.
1092
00:38:14,090 --> 00:38:14,329
Speaker:
Yeah.
1093
00:38:14,329 --> 00:38:19,369
Speaker:
I just omitted the big black
plumed bird part of that.
1094
00:38:19,369 --> 00:38:20,050
Speaker:
Wait, say it again.
1095
00:38:20,050 --> 00:38:20,849
Speaker:
Because I was confused.
1096
00:38:20,849 --> 00:38:22,650
Speaker:
I thought you were gonna give me
a lab libs.
1097
00:38:22,650 --> 00:38:23,730
Speaker:
No, no. Sorry.
1098
00:38:23,730 --> 00:38:26,230
Speaker:
No, it was from your your quote
1099
00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:29,429
Speaker:
described as a big black plumed
1100
00:38:29,429 --> 00:38:31,829
Speaker:
bird which stands fully six feet
1101
00:38:31,829 --> 00:38:33,590
Speaker:
high and keeps watch while his
1102
00:38:33,590 --> 00:38:35,230
Speaker:
mates carry out their work of
1103
00:38:35,230 --> 00:38:35,829
Speaker:
destruction.
1104
00:38:35,829 --> 00:38:38,949
Speaker:
I see you had given me just
without the bird part, right?
1105
00:38:38,949 --> 00:38:39,789
Speaker:
Exactly.
1106
00:38:41,110 --> 00:38:41,429
Speaker:
Wait.
1107
00:38:41,429 --> 00:38:45,989
Speaker:
So he stands watch while while
all the other ones fuck shit up.
1108
00:38:45,989 --> 00:38:48,550
Speaker:
Like while they're going and
trying to feed and stuff.
1109
00:38:48,550 --> 00:38:48,909
Speaker:
Yeah.
1110
00:38:48,909 --> 00:38:52,829
Speaker:
I mean, because that's what the
reason they're there is because
1111
00:38:52,829 --> 00:38:57,309
Speaker:
they're creatures and they need
food and water.
1112
00:38:57,309 --> 00:38:58,349
Speaker:
Right?
1113
00:38:58,349 --> 00:38:59,110
Speaker:
Right.
1114
00:38:59,110 --> 00:39:07,250
Speaker:
So. They didn't just go there to
party down like they did
1115
00:39:07,250 --> 00:39:13,150
Speaker:
malicious party animals, like
they were trying to survive.
1116
00:39:13,150 --> 00:39:17,789
Speaker:
So their work of destruction is
a little over the top for me.
1117
00:39:17,789 --> 00:39:20,949
Speaker:
Like they were trying to eat dog
chill like.
1118
00:39:23,710 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker:
So that made it hard.
1119
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker:
Hard for the soldiers to
surprise them.
1120
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker:
If there's the one leader and he
would warn the other one.
1121
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,639
Speaker:
Of course, Major Meredith
himself admitted that the birds
1122
00:39:33,639 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker:
were difficult to defeat.
1123
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:41,679
Speaker:
He even joked that If the army
had soldiers as tough as emus,
1124
00:39:41,679 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker:
they could fight any enemy.
1125
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker:
He said this man fell in love
with the emus.
1126
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:52,039
Speaker:
He said, quote unquote, if we
had a military division with the
1127
00:39:52,039 --> 00:39:56,139
Speaker:
bullet carrying capacity of
these birds, it would face an
1128
00:39:56,139 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker:
enemy army in the world.
1129
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:02,159
Speaker:
They can face machine guns with
the invulnerability of tanks.
1130
00:40:02,159 --> 00:40:06,559
Speaker:
I mean, and if I had a good
Australian accent, that would
1131
00:40:06,559 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker:
be, oh my God, superb.
1132
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker:
So nice.
1133
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker:
But yeah, yeah, don't have one
of those.
1134
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker:
It turns British every time.
1135
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker:
I'm not even gonna try.
1136
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker:
Yeah.
1137
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:19,019
Speaker:
so this quote shows how
surprising it was that the.
1138
00:40:19,019 --> 00:40:23,219
Speaker:
This military force could not
defeat a group of birds.
1139
00:40:24,300 --> 00:40:29,340
Speaker:
After several days very few emus
had been killed compared to the
1140
00:40:29,340 --> 00:40:31,579
Speaker:
amount of ammunition used.
1141
00:40:34,260 --> 00:40:36,820
Speaker:
The soldiers stopped the
operation, but they returned
1142
00:40:36,820 --> 00:40:39,460
Speaker:
later in the month to try again.
1143
00:40:39,460 --> 00:40:41,739
Speaker:
Even then, the results were not
very good.
1144
00:40:41,739 --> 00:40:45,900
Speaker:
Only small numbers of birds were
killed each week and the cost of
1145
00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:47,820
Speaker:
the operation was high.
1146
00:40:47,820 --> 00:40:48,380
Speaker:
Yeah.
1147
00:40:48,380 --> 00:40:49,500
Speaker:
Despite sense.
1148
00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:51,579
Speaker:
Despite thousands of rounds of
1149
00:40:51,579 --> 00:40:53,780
Speaker:
ammunition being fired, the
1150
00:40:53,780 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker:
soldiers killed very few of
1151
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,739
Speaker:
their targets.
1152
00:40:56,739 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker:
according to an article I read,
it said nearly ten rounds were
1153
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker:
used for every confirmed kill.
1154
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker:
In the first days of the
1155
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker:
campaign, only about thirty were
1156
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker:
brought down.
1157
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker:
Yeah, that's not even a drop in
the hat.
1158
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,119
Speaker:
No, no. Or a drop in the bucket.
1159
00:41:14,119 --> 00:41:14,599
Speaker:
Bucket.
1160
00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker:
Hat.
1161
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:15,639
Speaker:
Bucket.
1162
00:41:16,969 --> 00:41:19,090
Speaker:
so in the end, the government
1163
00:41:19,090 --> 00:41:21,010
Speaker:
decided that using the army
1164
00:41:21,010 --> 00:41:23,610
Speaker:
using the army was not the best
1165
00:41:23,610 --> 00:41:24,570
Speaker:
solution.
1166
00:41:24,570 --> 00:41:26,349
Speaker:
Instead, they offered rewards to
1167
00:41:26,349 --> 00:41:28,369
Speaker:
farmers for killing the emus
1168
00:41:28,369 --> 00:41:29,090
Speaker:
themselves.
1169
00:41:29,090 --> 00:41:30,250
Speaker:
This worked much better.
1170
00:41:30,250 --> 00:41:30,570
Speaker:
Yeah.
1171
00:41:30,570 --> 00:41:31,650
Speaker:
No shit.
1172
00:41:33,289 --> 00:41:36,869
Speaker:
your last lab is here, and I
1173
00:41:36,869 --> 00:41:39,269
Speaker:
said a number less than sixty
1174
00:41:39,269 --> 00:41:40,849
Speaker:
thousand.
1175
00:41:40,849 --> 00:41:42,610
Speaker:
This worked much better.
1176
00:41:42,610 --> 00:41:48,550
Speaker:
According to numbers, more than
blank bounties were claimed in
1177
00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:49,690
Speaker:
just six months.
1178
00:41:49,690 --> 00:41:50,489
Speaker:
What do you think?
1179
00:41:50,489 --> 00:41:52,050
Speaker:
I said a really specific number.
1180
00:41:52,050 --> 00:41:53,449
Speaker:
Like in the fifty thousands.
1181
00:41:53,449 --> 00:41:56,570
Speaker:
I think fifty two, seven, sixty
six.
1182
00:41:56,570 --> 00:41:57,730
Speaker:
I think that's too high.
1183
00:41:57,730 --> 00:42:01,130
Speaker:
I feel like maybe it was ten
thousand or something.
1184
00:42:01,130 --> 00:42:03,530
Speaker:
Yeah, it was fifty seven
thousand.
1185
00:42:03,530 --> 00:42:04,250
Speaker:
Really?
1186
00:42:04,250 --> 00:42:04,650
Speaker:
Yes.
1187
00:42:04,650 --> 00:42:07,489
Speaker:
I thought there were only twenty
thousand emus coming around.
1188
00:42:07,489 --> 00:42:09,829
Speaker:
Listen, I don't know.
1189
00:42:09,829 --> 00:42:10,590
Speaker:
Okay.
1190
00:42:10,590 --> 00:42:12,349
Speaker:
I think more came.
1191
00:42:12,349 --> 00:42:15,550
Speaker:
Like, I think that was the
initial wave of these things.
1192
00:42:15,550 --> 00:42:16,710
Speaker:
Wow.
1193
00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:17,909
Speaker:
Yeah.
1194
00:42:17,909 --> 00:42:20,269
Speaker:
Fifty zero zero zero bounties.
1195
00:42:20,269 --> 00:42:21,750
Speaker:
Fifty seven thousand.
1196
00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:22,030
Speaker:
Yes.
1197
00:42:22,030 --> 00:42:23,710
Speaker:
Fifty seven thousand.
1198
00:42:23,710 --> 00:42:27,469
Speaker:
That's a lot of dead emus get
paid for it, right?
1199
00:42:27,469 --> 00:42:29,510
Speaker:
So they weren't out looking for
them emus?
1200
00:42:29,510 --> 00:42:31,190
Speaker:
Yeah.
1201
00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:33,070
Speaker:
I think a lot of people would
probably do that.
1202
00:42:33,070 --> 00:42:34,269
Speaker:
That's kind of sad.
1203
00:42:34,269 --> 00:42:35,630
Speaker:
I know.
1204
00:42:35,630 --> 00:42:37,230
Speaker:
Even though the EMU war did not
1205
00:42:37,230 --> 00:42:39,869
Speaker:
last long, it became famous
1206
00:42:39,869 --> 00:42:41,670
Speaker:
because it showed how poorly
1207
00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:43,309
Speaker:
planned the whole situation had
1208
00:42:43,309 --> 00:42:43,989
Speaker:
been.
1209
00:42:43,989 --> 00:42:47,210
Speaker:
Are there still emus in
1210
00:42:47,210 --> 00:42:49,469
Speaker:
Australia or do they, like, kill
1211
00:42:49,469 --> 00:42:49,949
Speaker:
em all?
1212
00:42:49,949 --> 00:42:52,269
Speaker:
I don't think they kill em all,
but I don't know.
1213
00:42:52,269 --> 00:42:53,349
Speaker:
They might be extinct.
1214
00:42:53,349 --> 00:42:54,190
Speaker:
I'm not sure.
1215
00:42:54,190 --> 00:42:55,150
Speaker:
Not extinct?
1216
00:42:55,150 --> 00:42:55,670
Speaker:
Um.
1217
00:42:57,230 --> 00:42:57,789
Speaker:
Yes.
1218
00:42:57,789 --> 00:42:58,909
Speaker:
That I was like, what's that
one?
1219
00:42:58,909 --> 00:43:00,309
Speaker:
They're like, almost dead.
1220
00:43:02,150 --> 00:43:02,989
Speaker:
Okay.
1221
00:43:02,989 --> 00:43:05,349
Speaker:
the EMU War also showed how the
1222
00:43:05,349 --> 00:43:07,519
Speaker:
problems started long before the
1223
00:43:07,519 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker:
birds arrived.
1224
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,039
Speaker:
The soldier settlement scheme
had already caused conflict.
1225
00:43:12,039 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker:
Taking land from Aboriginal
1226
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker:
people and place farmers in
1227
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker:
areas that were difficult to
1228
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker:
live in.
1229
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,139
Speaker:
When the drought came and the
1230
00:43:20,139 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker:
emus moved into the fields, the
1231
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,119
Speaker:
situation turned into something
1232
00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:25,679
Speaker:
almost unbelievable.
1233
00:43:25,679 --> 00:43:26,199
Speaker:
Yeah.
1234
00:43:26,199 --> 00:43:29,559
Speaker:
Today the event is remembered as
one of the strangest military
1235
00:43:29,559 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker:
operations in history.
1236
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker:
It was not really a war, but it
1237
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker:
showed how government decisions,
1238
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker:
environmental conditions and
1239
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker:
mistakes.
1240
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,639
Speaker:
Human mistakes can come together
in unexpected ways.
1241
00:43:40,639 --> 00:43:44,519
Speaker:
And I said, I feel like we have
a lot of stories of follies
1242
00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:46,119
Speaker:
between man and nature.
1243
00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker:
Yeah we do.
1244
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker:
There.
1245
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker:
We are not smart.
1246
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker:
No. Like, we really think we can
1247
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,519
Speaker:
take on some shit we can't take
1248
00:43:56,519 --> 00:43:57,199
Speaker:
on.
1249
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,519
Speaker:
Do you want to see one?
1250
00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:01,039
Speaker:
Yeah, yeah.
1251
00:44:01,039 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker:
Let's see if I can get you a
1252
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker:
good picture I want to look
1253
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:04,820
Speaker:
wild.
1254
00:44:04,820 --> 00:44:06,340
Speaker:
Their eyes are crazy.
1255
00:44:06,340 --> 00:44:07,739
Speaker:
They got crazy eyes.
1256
00:44:07,739 --> 00:44:09,300
Speaker:
They got crazy eyes, huh?
1257
00:44:09,300 --> 00:44:11,420
Speaker:
Okay, this one's a good.
1258
00:44:11,420 --> 00:44:12,739
Speaker:
The eyeballs.
1259
00:44:12,739 --> 00:44:13,460
Speaker:
Whoa!
1260
00:44:15,579 --> 00:44:16,739
Speaker:
They're kind of scary looking.
1261
00:44:16,739 --> 00:44:18,420
Speaker:
They are scary looking.
1262
00:44:18,420 --> 00:44:21,860
Speaker:
Oh, my goodness, they're weird
looking, too.
1263
00:44:21,860 --> 00:44:22,860
Speaker:
Wow.
1264
00:44:22,860 --> 00:44:24,980
Speaker:
No wonder they wanted to kill
them all.
1265
00:44:24,980 --> 00:44:25,820
Speaker:
Geez.
1266
00:44:25,820 --> 00:44:32,460
Speaker:
Yeah, so that I don't know whose
side I'm on.
1267
00:44:32,460 --> 00:44:38,639
Speaker:
Like, I get it, they were
causing destruction, but also,
1268
00:44:38,639 --> 00:44:42,260
Speaker:
I'm like, they sounded cool.
1269
00:44:42,260 --> 00:44:45,739
Speaker:
Like I want the emos to win.
1270
00:44:45,739 --> 00:44:47,099
Speaker:
Yeah, you know me.
1271
00:44:47,099 --> 00:44:48,860
Speaker:
I always want the animal to win.
1272
00:44:48,860 --> 00:44:51,989
Speaker:
Yeah, like I said, Like they
1273
00:44:51,989 --> 00:44:53,969
Speaker:
acted like they were there, like
1274
00:44:53,969 --> 00:44:56,989
Speaker:
purposely to just destroy things
1275
00:44:56,989 --> 00:44:58,809
Speaker:
like, bro, they were trying to
1276
00:44:58,809 --> 00:44:59,630
Speaker:
survive.
1277
00:44:59,630 --> 00:45:00,510
Speaker:
What are you.
1278
00:45:00,510 --> 00:45:02,590
Speaker:
Why are you mad?
1279
00:45:02,590 --> 00:45:04,869
Speaker:
They are not endangered.
1280
00:45:04,869 --> 00:45:06,110
Speaker:
I looked it up.
1281
00:45:06,110 --> 00:45:07,869
Speaker:
They have a stable, widespread
1282
00:45:07,869 --> 00:45:09,489
Speaker:
population across mainland
1283
00:45:09,489 --> 00:45:10,469
Speaker:
Australia.
1284
00:45:10,469 --> 00:45:12,070
Speaker:
Okay.
1285
00:45:12,070 --> 00:45:15,750
Speaker:
And isn't that wild that it's
the only place they are?
1286
00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:16,349
Speaker:
Yeah.
1287
00:45:16,349 --> 00:45:19,110
Speaker:
There's not too many animals
that are only on, I think.
1288
00:45:19,110 --> 00:45:21,510
Speaker:
But that's common for Australia.
1289
00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:24,510
Speaker:
There's a bunch of animals that
only live in Australia.
1290
00:45:24,510 --> 00:45:26,110
Speaker:
Yeah, I guess that's true.
1291
00:45:26,110 --> 00:45:30,150
Speaker:
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty crazy.
1292
00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:30,949
Speaker:
That's so funny.
1293
00:45:30,949 --> 00:45:33,469
Speaker:
I was like really sitting there
trying to guess what animal you
1294
00:45:33,469 --> 00:45:34,030
Speaker:
were talking about.
1295
00:45:34,030 --> 00:45:36,389
Speaker:
I was like, what is it?
1296
00:45:36,389 --> 00:45:38,989
Speaker:
The wolves did sound.
1297
00:45:38,989 --> 00:45:39,190
Speaker:
Yeah.
1298
00:45:39,190 --> 00:45:40,230
Speaker:
When you were saying wolves, I
1299
00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:41,530
Speaker:
was like, okay, I can kind of
1300
00:45:41,530 --> 00:45:42,190
Speaker:
see wolves.
1301
00:45:42,190 --> 00:45:42,869
Speaker:
Yeah.
1302
00:45:42,869 --> 00:45:44,070
Speaker:
But no, it's.
1303
00:45:44,070 --> 00:45:47,409
Speaker:
But what Wolf is six feet tall.
1304
00:45:47,409 --> 00:45:48,170
Speaker:
Twilight?
1305
00:45:48,170 --> 00:45:49,769
Speaker:
Yeah, like a dire wolf.
1306
00:45:52,929 --> 00:45:58,010
Speaker:
so the EMU War has been covered
a lot in a lot of places, so.
1307
00:45:58,010 --> 00:45:58,889
Speaker:
Yeah.
1308
00:45:58,889 --> 00:46:04,329
Speaker:
Oh, well, on that one, I think
we're funnier than everyone, so.
1309
00:46:04,329 --> 00:46:07,130
Speaker:
But I just thought it was just a
1310
00:46:07,130 --> 00:46:10,190
Speaker:
really hilarious story that we
1311
00:46:10,190 --> 00:46:12,010
Speaker:
thought machine guns were gonna
1312
00:46:12,010 --> 00:46:12,769
Speaker:
take out.
1313
00:46:12,769 --> 00:46:13,530
Speaker:
of birds.
1314
00:46:13,530 --> 00:46:18,730
Speaker:
We always think we're, like, so
much stronger than animals, but
1315
00:46:18,730 --> 00:46:20,489
Speaker:
then they whoop our ass.
1316
00:46:22,130 --> 00:46:23,170
Speaker:
They really do.
1317
00:46:25,130 --> 00:46:25,730
Speaker:
Oh, man.
1318
00:46:25,730 --> 00:46:26,449
Speaker:
That's funny.
1319
00:46:26,449 --> 00:46:28,449
Speaker:
So I told you about the emus.
1320
00:46:28,449 --> 00:46:31,730
Speaker:
You told me about a lot of
things.
1321
00:46:31,730 --> 00:46:35,170
Speaker:
Like, even just before we got to
the emus, the story was already
1322
00:46:35,170 --> 00:46:36,489
Speaker:
so crazy that it was.
1323
00:46:36,489 --> 00:46:37,969
Speaker:
Yeah, they just stole all this
1324
00:46:37,969 --> 00:46:39,809
Speaker:
land, and I know, just
1325
00:46:39,809 --> 00:46:42,289
Speaker:
arbitrarily gave them all wheat
1326
00:46:42,289 --> 00:46:43,170
Speaker:
farms.
1327
00:46:46,690 --> 00:46:48,849
Speaker:
So take me down your rabbit
hole.
1328
00:46:48,849 --> 00:46:49,409
Speaker:
Okay.
1329
00:46:49,409 --> 00:46:53,010
Speaker:
We are not even on the same
wavelength this week.
1330
00:46:53,010 --> 00:46:54,329
Speaker:
Oh, nice at all.
1331
00:46:54,329 --> 00:46:54,929
Speaker:
Okay.
1332
00:46:56,469 --> 00:46:59,030
Speaker:
well, I just finished up this
1333
00:46:59,030 --> 00:47:02,110
Speaker:
big event that I helped to run
1334
00:47:02,110 --> 00:47:05,250
Speaker:
and we hosted, a ball with the
1335
00:47:05,250 --> 00:47:06,369
Speaker:
Central Florida Ballroom
1336
00:47:06,369 --> 00:47:07,289
Speaker:
Collective.
1337
00:47:07,289 --> 00:47:10,130
Speaker:
They're like an organization
that hosts lots of events.
1338
00:47:10,130 --> 00:47:10,769
Speaker:
Oh, cool.
1339
00:47:10,769 --> 00:47:14,369
Speaker:
Are you at all familiar with
ballroom?
1340
00:47:14,369 --> 00:47:19,550
Speaker:
Like, have you seen Paris is
Burning or pose or like, know
1341
00:47:19,550 --> 00:47:21,690
Speaker:
anything about ballroom culture?
1342
00:47:21,690 --> 00:47:22,489
Speaker:
No.
1343
00:47:22,489 --> 00:47:23,969
Speaker:
Okay.
1344
00:47:23,969 --> 00:47:25,570
Speaker:
Well, I knew of it.
1345
00:47:25,570 --> 00:47:30,050
Speaker:
And I've seen those this show
that like kind of put it into
1346
00:47:30,050 --> 00:47:33,969
Speaker:
the mainstream, like as far as
the queer community.
1347
00:47:33,969 --> 00:47:34,449
Speaker:
Oh, okay.
1348
00:47:34,449 --> 00:47:36,050
Speaker:
Knowing about it, or rather the
1349
00:47:36,050 --> 00:47:37,309
Speaker:
white queer community knowing
1350
00:47:37,309 --> 00:47:38,889
Speaker:
about it, but it's basically a
1351
00:47:38,889 --> 00:47:40,550
Speaker:
culture that's, got a lot of
1352
00:47:40,550 --> 00:47:43,130
Speaker:
history in the black and Latina
1353
00:47:43,130 --> 00:47:46,510
Speaker:
and Latino, queer communities,
1354
00:47:46,510 --> 00:47:49,110
Speaker:
particularly starting off in New
1355
00:47:49,110 --> 00:47:49,579
Speaker:
York.
1356
00:47:49,579 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker:
But now it's like worldwide
1357
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,099
Speaker:
where they have these huge get
1358
00:47:54,099 --> 00:47:56,099
Speaker:
togethers that are a fierce
1359
00:47:56,099 --> 00:47:57,500
Speaker:
competition.
1360
00:47:57,500 --> 00:48:02,099
Speaker:
You, you come bring your all
everything from what you're
1361
00:48:02,099 --> 00:48:08,539
Speaker:
wearing, your confidence, your
face, your dance, your planning
1362
00:48:08,539 --> 00:48:11,659
Speaker:
and strategy with the team
members that you come with.
1363
00:48:11,659 --> 00:48:14,900
Speaker:
MM. And there's different
categories.
1364
00:48:14,900 --> 00:48:18,860
Speaker:
You walk like you would walk on
a runway, but way more intense.
1365
00:48:18,860 --> 00:48:19,380
Speaker:
Right.
1366
00:48:19,380 --> 00:48:24,739
Speaker:
And you get judged and there's
big prizes, big trophies.
1367
00:48:24,739 --> 00:48:25,980
Speaker:
Oh, that's pretty cool.
1368
00:48:25,980 --> 00:48:29,619
Speaker:
And it started well, I didn't, I
wasn't familiar with how the
1369
00:48:29,619 --> 00:48:30,980
Speaker:
whole culture started.
1370
00:48:30,980 --> 00:48:31,780
Speaker:
Mhm.
1371
00:48:31,780 --> 00:48:35,340
Speaker:
But we learned a lot working
with this other organization.
1372
00:48:35,340 --> 00:48:38,539
Speaker:
Like I, the organization I work
for is primarily a film
1373
00:48:38,539 --> 00:48:41,980
Speaker:
festival, but we're branching
out into, arts and culture
1374
00:48:41,980 --> 00:48:42,780
Speaker:
events as well.
1375
00:48:42,780 --> 00:48:43,340
Speaker:
Right.
1376
00:48:43,340 --> 00:48:45,619
Speaker:
So we wanted to partner with
other organizations.
1377
00:48:45,619 --> 00:48:48,679
Speaker:
And the Central Florida Ballroom
Collective is the one we ended
1378
00:48:48,679 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker:
up collaborating with to make
this big event.
1379
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker:
So I knew what a ball was sort
of.
1380
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker:
But just from that TV show that
1381
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker:
I watched, which was like all
1382
00:48:58,760 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker:
about that.
1383
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:04,380
Speaker:
But it's really a big part of
trans communities and queer
1384
00:49:04,380 --> 00:49:09,780
Speaker:
history, particularly in New
York in like the seventies and
1385
00:49:09,780 --> 00:49:15,139
Speaker:
80s and 90s when the Aids crisis
was happening way longer
1386
00:49:15,139 --> 00:49:17,820
Speaker:
actually, which is what I'm
about to tell you about.
1387
00:49:17,820 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker:
But when the Aids crisis
happened and, even before that,
1388
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker:
like in the seventies and stuff,
queer kids were like kicked out
1389
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker:
of their house a lot, even
though that still happens.
1390
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker:
It was like a big problem,
especially in New York.
1391
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:39,570
Speaker:
And from that, there were lots
of chosen families.
1392
00:49:39,570 --> 00:49:42,030
Speaker:
Okay, popping up and this kind
1393
00:49:42,030 --> 00:49:43,690
Speaker:
of turned into part of that
1394
00:49:43,690 --> 00:49:45,170
Speaker:
ballroom culture where they
1395
00:49:45,170 --> 00:49:46,949
Speaker:
would have these houses and
1396
00:49:46,949 --> 00:49:48,449
Speaker:
there was like a house mother or
1397
00:49:48,449 --> 00:49:49,409
Speaker:
father that would like lead
1398
00:49:49,409 --> 00:49:51,010
Speaker:
everything, right?
1399
00:49:51,010 --> 00:49:55,449
Speaker:
So, um, anyways, that's who,
like, that's your like team when
1400
00:49:55,449 --> 00:49:58,610
Speaker:
you're competing at the ball is
your house, your family that
1401
00:49:58,610 --> 00:49:59,610
Speaker:
you're competing with.
1402
00:49:59,610 --> 00:50:00,530
Speaker:
All right.
1403
00:50:00,530 --> 00:50:03,210
Speaker:
And do you know what voguing is?
1404
00:50:03,210 --> 00:50:06,130
Speaker:
Yeah, that's from ballroom
culture too.
1405
00:50:06,130 --> 00:50:10,449
Speaker:
That's part of their like dance
style that they compete with.
1406
00:50:10,449 --> 00:50:13,610
Speaker:
And, so before we did this big
1407
00:50:13,610 --> 00:50:14,769
Speaker:
event, I didn't really know much
1408
00:50:14,769 --> 00:50:16,769
Speaker:
about the history, but from
1409
00:50:16,769 --> 00:50:17,969
Speaker:
talking to the leaders of that
1410
00:50:17,969 --> 00:50:20,309
Speaker:
group, we did like this live Q&A
1411
00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:21,869
Speaker:
on Instagram and he started
1412
00:50:21,869 --> 00:50:23,570
Speaker:
talking about all of the history
1413
00:50:23,570 --> 00:50:24,329
Speaker:
of ballroom.
1414
00:50:24,329 --> 00:50:29,530
Speaker:
And he mentioned that because my
question was like, does this
1415
00:50:29,530 --> 00:50:32,409
Speaker:
have anything to do with
Bridgerton balls type thing?
1416
00:50:32,409 --> 00:50:33,250
Speaker:
Right, right, right.
1417
00:50:33,250 --> 00:50:33,489
Speaker:
Yeah.
1418
00:50:33,489 --> 00:50:34,570
Speaker:
Ballroom dance.
1419
00:50:34,570 --> 00:50:34,809
Speaker:
Yeah.
1420
00:50:34,809 --> 00:50:37,190
Speaker:
You know, like that kind of
thing, right?
1421
00:50:37,190 --> 00:50:38,789
Speaker:
Is it related at all?
1422
00:50:38,789 --> 00:50:40,269
Speaker:
And he actually knew quite a bit
1423
00:50:40,269 --> 00:50:42,170
Speaker:
of the history, which is what,
1424
00:50:42,170 --> 00:50:44,110
Speaker:
where my rabbit hole originated
1425
00:50:44,110 --> 00:50:46,630
Speaker:
because he said that this
1426
00:50:46,630 --> 00:50:47,789
Speaker:
ballroom culture that we have
1427
00:50:47,789 --> 00:50:49,309
Speaker:
now with the houses and the big
1428
00:50:49,309 --> 00:50:52,030
Speaker:
competitions and all the black
1429
00:50:52,030 --> 00:50:55,349
Speaker:
queer excellence, started from
1430
00:50:55,349 --> 00:50:56,869
Speaker:
something actually in the late
1431
00:50:56,869 --> 00:50:58,590
Speaker:
eighteen hundreds called the
1432
00:50:58,590 --> 00:51:00,630
Speaker:
Oddfellows Ball.
1433
00:51:00,630 --> 00:51:01,949
Speaker:
Oh my gosh.
1434
00:51:01,949 --> 00:51:03,190
Speaker:
Do you remember?
1435
00:51:04,349 --> 00:51:06,889
Speaker:
Was it it was, it was, it was
1436
00:51:06,889 --> 00:51:09,449
Speaker:
what do you remember when I did,
1437
00:51:09,449 --> 00:51:12,829
Speaker:
Centralia and I talked about the
1438
00:51:12,829 --> 00:51:14,670
Speaker:
cemetery called the Odd Fellows
1439
00:51:14,670 --> 00:51:15,349
Speaker:
Cemetery.
1440
00:51:15,349 --> 00:51:17,469
Speaker:
And I said, do you know what the
Oddfellows is?
1441
00:51:17,469 --> 00:51:18,789
Speaker:
And you said no. And I told you
1442
00:51:18,789 --> 00:51:20,369
Speaker:
it was like the secret society
1443
00:51:20,369 --> 00:51:22,230
Speaker:
from England.
1444
00:51:22,230 --> 00:51:23,110
Speaker:
That's kind of weird.
1445
00:51:23,110 --> 00:51:24,230
Speaker:
This is related to that?
1446
00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:24,590
Speaker:
Yeah.
1447
00:51:24,590 --> 00:51:26,190
Speaker:
It has to be, yeah.
1448
00:51:26,190 --> 00:51:27,230
Speaker:
Yeah.
1449
00:51:27,230 --> 00:51:31,269
Speaker:
So, Basically, I was really
interested in it because there's
1450
00:51:31,269 --> 00:51:36,190
Speaker:
this big myth around like the
LGBT community from outsiders
1451
00:51:36,190 --> 00:51:38,469
Speaker:
that this is a new thing.
1452
00:51:38,469 --> 00:51:39,909
Speaker:
Oh, there's so many gay people.
1453
00:51:39,909 --> 00:51:43,550
Speaker:
And before, like the nineteen
sixties or something, there were
1454
00:51:43,550 --> 00:51:48,449
Speaker:
no gay people in public life, or
they were just like hardly any
1455
00:51:48,449 --> 00:51:50,110
Speaker:
existence of us.
1456
00:51:50,110 --> 00:51:53,650
Speaker:
But this goes back to eighteen
1457
00:51:53,650 --> 00:51:55,469
Speaker:
sixty nine, a hundred years
1458
00:51:55,469 --> 00:51:57,409
Speaker:
before the Stonewall riots, to
1459
00:51:57,409 --> 00:51:58,610
Speaker:
like, place that in queer
1460
00:51:58,610 --> 00:51:59,190
Speaker:
history.
1461
00:51:59,190 --> 00:51:59,949
Speaker:
Wow.
1462
00:51:59,949 --> 00:52:04,190
Speaker:
And, they started having these
huge parties.
1463
00:52:04,190 --> 00:52:07,949
Speaker:
And it started from this
fraternal organization of free
1464
00:52:07,949 --> 00:52:12,469
Speaker:
black men in, in eighteen forty
two, okay, in New York.
1465
00:52:12,469 --> 00:52:18,809
Speaker:
And they petitioned Manchester,
England to have a lodge for the
1466
00:52:18,809 --> 00:52:22,289
Speaker:
American Oddfellows, so that
must be where it came from.
1467
00:52:22,289 --> 00:52:23,130
Speaker:
From England.
1468
00:52:23,130 --> 00:52:24,130
Speaker:
Odd fellows, right?
1469
00:52:24,130 --> 00:52:24,570
Speaker:
Yeah.
1470
00:52:24,570 --> 00:52:26,070
Speaker:
they were denied because they
1471
00:52:26,070 --> 00:52:31,289
Speaker:
were black, but they basically
1472
00:52:31,289 --> 00:52:32,909
Speaker:
kept trying.
1473
00:52:32,909 --> 00:52:35,230
Speaker:
And eventually they were able to
1474
00:52:35,230 --> 00:52:37,070
Speaker:
make the Hamilton Lodge in
1475
00:52:37,070 --> 00:52:40,269
Speaker:
Harlem, New York, So twenty five
1476
00:52:40,269 --> 00:52:41,730
Speaker:
years go by and they have their
1477
00:52:41,730 --> 00:52:43,090
Speaker:
twenty fifth anniversary, which
1478
00:52:43,090 --> 00:52:44,650
Speaker:
is when they decide to have a
1479
00:52:44,650 --> 00:52:46,110
Speaker:
second big event, a masquerade
1480
00:52:46,110 --> 00:52:46,650
Speaker:
ball.
1481
00:52:46,650 --> 00:52:49,409
Speaker:
And this is their first
Oddfellows ball.
1482
00:52:49,409 --> 00:52:51,730
Speaker:
And over the years, beginning
1483
00:52:51,730 --> 00:52:53,730
Speaker:
then in in eighteen sixty nine,
1484
00:52:53,730 --> 00:52:55,610
Speaker:
it becomes this, like, safe
1485
00:52:55,610 --> 00:52:58,980
Speaker:
space for men to dress up like
1486
00:52:58,980 --> 00:53:02,039
Speaker:
women, basically, and wear like
1487
00:53:02,039 --> 00:53:04,739
Speaker:
crazy fancy ballroom dresses and
1488
00:53:04,739 --> 00:53:05,539
Speaker:
masks.
1489
00:53:05,539 --> 00:53:09,260
Speaker:
And and it started to be a big,
like music and dance event.
1490
00:53:09,260 --> 00:53:13,860
Speaker:
And then it started to become a
competition as well.
1491
00:53:13,860 --> 00:53:22,039
Speaker:
and it was just so much earlier
than I ever expected that kind
1492
00:53:22,039 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker:
of tradition to begin.
1493
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker:
Yeah.
1494
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:24,159
Speaker:
Yeah.
1495
00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:26,159
Speaker:
I would, I wouldn't have thought
that either.
1496
00:53:26,159 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker:
Yeah.
1497
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,659
Speaker:
So they started having these big
1498
00:53:28,659 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker:
basically drag balls is what it
1499
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker:
turned into.
1500
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:37,199
Speaker:
And it was very taboo in
mainstream culture, but it drew
1501
00:53:37,199 --> 00:53:42,519
Speaker:
crowds of thousands to like, see
what was happening, you know?
1502
00:53:42,519 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker:
Right.
1503
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker:
And yeah.
1504
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker:
So a lot of years go by buy up
1505
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,159
Speaker:
all the way through the eighteen
1506
00:53:49,159 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker:
hundreds and into the nineteen
1507
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:51,420
Speaker:
hundreds.
1508
00:53:51,420 --> 00:53:55,159
Speaker:
And there's still, even though
it was started by black men,
1509
00:53:55,159 --> 00:53:57,019
Speaker:
there's a lot of racism.
1510
00:53:57,019 --> 00:53:58,380
Speaker:
Once these competitions have
1511
00:53:58,380 --> 00:54:00,219
Speaker:
started up all the time that
1512
00:54:00,219 --> 00:54:03,059
Speaker:
they've gone now, it's been all
1513
00:54:03,059 --> 00:54:04,139
Speaker:
the time that they've been going
1514
00:54:04,139 --> 00:54:04,340
Speaker:
on.
1515
00:54:04,340 --> 00:54:07,539
Speaker:
Now it's been like infiltrated
by all the white people coming
1516
00:54:07,539 --> 00:54:09,340
Speaker:
in, still queer white people.
1517
00:54:09,340 --> 00:54:10,900
Speaker:
So there had never been any
1518
00:54:10,900 --> 00:54:13,019
Speaker:
black winners of the ball, even
1519
00:54:13,019 --> 00:54:14,500
Speaker:
though it was started by black
1520
00:54:14,500 --> 00:54:15,139
Speaker:
people.
1521
00:54:15,139 --> 00:54:15,579
Speaker:
Right.
1522
00:54:15,579 --> 00:54:18,420
Speaker:
And but it was growing and
growing in popularity.
1523
00:54:18,420 --> 00:54:19,659
Speaker:
And one thing I thought was
1524
00:54:19,659 --> 00:54:22,409
Speaker:
really funny, like a little
1525
00:54:22,409 --> 00:54:24,710
Speaker:
collision between parts of
1526
00:54:24,710 --> 00:54:25,789
Speaker:
history I didn't think were
1527
00:54:25,789 --> 00:54:27,030
Speaker:
related was.
1528
00:54:27,030 --> 00:54:28,610
Speaker:
Do you know madam C.J.
1529
00:54:28,610 --> 00:54:29,309
Speaker:
Walker?
1530
00:54:29,309 --> 00:54:35,829
Speaker:
No. She's the first self-made
female millionaire.
1531
00:54:35,829 --> 00:54:37,269
Speaker:
Oh, no, I did not ever.
1532
00:54:37,269 --> 00:54:38,510
Speaker:
And she's a black woman.
1533
00:54:38,510 --> 00:54:39,389
Speaker:
Oh, okay.
1534
00:54:39,389 --> 00:54:40,190
Speaker:
Randomly.
1535
00:54:40,190 --> 00:54:46,110
Speaker:
Her daughter was a big sponsor
of these oddfellow balls.
1536
00:54:46,110 --> 00:54:47,550
Speaker:
Masquerade balls?
1537
00:54:47,550 --> 00:54:47,869
Speaker:
Yeah.
1538
00:54:47,869 --> 00:54:49,030
Speaker:
Isn't that random?
1539
00:54:49,030 --> 00:54:51,269
Speaker:
Yeah, I guess it's not like.
1540
00:54:51,269 --> 00:54:53,590
Speaker:
Yeah, if you're well-to-do black
1541
00:54:53,590 --> 00:54:55,730
Speaker:
family, of course you would,
1542
00:54:55,730 --> 00:54:57,889
Speaker:
like, likely be sponsoring this
1543
00:54:57,889 --> 00:54:58,630
Speaker:
something.
1544
00:54:58,630 --> 00:55:01,110
Speaker:
Well, anyway, black culture
event, right?
1545
00:55:01,110 --> 00:55:01,989
Speaker:
But it just struck me.
1546
00:55:01,989 --> 00:55:04,429
Speaker:
I was like, what?
1547
00:55:04,429 --> 00:55:06,630
Speaker:
Because I did I have heard of
madam C.J.
1548
00:55:06,630 --> 00:55:07,190
Speaker:
Walker before.
1549
00:55:07,190 --> 00:55:07,590
Speaker:
Okay.
1550
00:55:07,590 --> 00:55:07,989
Speaker:
Okay.
1551
00:55:07,989 --> 00:55:09,710
Speaker:
So then fast forward to nineteen
1552
00:55:09,710 --> 00:55:12,230
Speaker:
thirty six is when we had the
1553
00:55:12,230 --> 00:55:15,250
Speaker:
first black queen in terms of
1554
00:55:15,250 --> 00:55:16,050
Speaker:
drag queen.
1555
00:55:16,050 --> 00:55:17,570
Speaker:
And they're called like femme
queens.
1556
00:55:17,570 --> 00:55:19,809
Speaker:
They're talking about trans
women when they say it.
1557
00:55:19,809 --> 00:55:23,690
Speaker:
Now, I don't know if they had
that language back then to call
1558
00:55:23,690 --> 00:55:30,590
Speaker:
themselves trans women, but but
they did start calling them like
1559
00:55:30,590 --> 00:55:34,170
Speaker:
queens and femme queens and
stuff early on as well.
1560
00:55:34,170 --> 00:55:37,929
Speaker:
And in nineteen thirty six, the
first black Queen took home the
1561
00:55:37,929 --> 00:55:42,610
Speaker:
top prize in all the seventy
years that they'd been having
1562
00:55:42,610 --> 00:55:44,489
Speaker:
these events and competitions.
1563
00:55:44,489 --> 00:55:45,409
Speaker:
Oh my gosh.
1564
00:55:45,409 --> 00:55:51,670
Speaker:
And, that really catapulted the
Oddfellows Ball and all the
1565
00:55:51,670 --> 00:55:53,429
Speaker:
culture surrounding that.
1566
00:55:53,429 --> 00:55:55,789
Speaker:
And it started to evolve more
1567
00:55:55,789 --> 00:55:57,469
Speaker:
into what we have in ballroom
1568
00:55:57,469 --> 00:56:00,230
Speaker:
culture now with like the houses
1569
00:56:00,230 --> 00:56:03,309
Speaker:
and they were always kind of
1570
00:56:03,309 --> 00:56:04,050
Speaker:
underground.
1571
00:56:04,050 --> 00:56:08,489
Speaker:
And that's still sort of how it
is today too, that it's like you
1572
00:56:08,489 --> 00:56:10,409
Speaker:
have to know it's happening.
1573
00:56:10,409 --> 00:56:13,170
Speaker:
I was gonna say it's not like
super publicized really.
1574
00:56:13,170 --> 00:56:14,730
Speaker:
Sometimes it is like, for
1575
00:56:14,730 --> 00:56:16,010
Speaker:
example, the Central Florida
1576
00:56:16,010 --> 00:56:17,489
Speaker:
ballroom collective that we
1577
00:56:17,489 --> 00:56:18,530
Speaker:
partnered with.
1578
00:56:18,530 --> 00:56:21,650
Speaker:
Like they advertise their events
and stuff, but it's still sort
1579
00:56:21,650 --> 00:56:24,010
Speaker:
of like if you're in the
community, you know about it,
1580
00:56:24,010 --> 00:56:25,369
Speaker:
you see the advertisements.
1581
00:56:25,369 --> 00:56:26,210
Speaker:
If you're outside of the
1582
00:56:26,210 --> 00:56:27,570
Speaker:
community, you may not all the
1583
00:56:27,570 --> 00:56:27,889
Speaker:
time.
1584
00:56:27,889 --> 00:56:28,190
Speaker:
Right.
1585
00:56:28,190 --> 00:56:33,269
Speaker:
Especially for their like most
intense competitions where it's
1586
00:56:33,269 --> 00:56:35,710
Speaker:
going to be like the best of the
best from their communities,
1587
00:56:35,710 --> 00:56:38,949
Speaker:
it's not going to just be out
there for everyone to attend.
1588
00:56:38,949 --> 00:56:39,909
Speaker:
Right?
1589
00:56:39,909 --> 00:56:43,869
Speaker:
You know, and that's how it
started to be early on as well.
1590
00:56:43,869 --> 00:56:45,869
Speaker:
I just thought it was so
interesting because I thought
1591
00:56:45,869 --> 00:56:47,429
Speaker:
this was something new.
1592
00:56:47,429 --> 00:56:48,030
Speaker:
Yeah.
1593
00:56:48,030 --> 00:56:52,670
Speaker:
And then to hear them, to hear
this guy that we were partnering
1594
00:56:52,670 --> 00:56:55,630
Speaker:
with, talk about all the
history, I just like had to know
1595
00:56:55,630 --> 00:56:56,349
Speaker:
more about it.
1596
00:56:56,349 --> 00:56:57,269
Speaker:
That's crazy.
1597
00:56:57,269 --> 00:56:57,949
Speaker:
Mhm.
1598
00:56:58,949 --> 00:57:03,550
Speaker:
I liked this set of quotes from,
in nineteen sixty seven, there
1599
00:57:03,550 --> 00:57:07,949
Speaker:
was a black contestant, Crystal
La Beija Mhm.
1600
00:57:07,949 --> 00:57:13,630
Speaker:
And, she claimed that the judges
had discriminated against Black
1601
00:57:13,630 --> 00:57:16,710
Speaker:
and Latinx contestants and that
the pageant was rigged towards
1602
00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:17,710
Speaker:
the white women.
1603
00:57:17,710 --> 00:57:18,190
Speaker:
Mhm.
1604
00:57:18,190 --> 00:57:19,429
Speaker:
Or white contestants.
1605
00:57:19,429 --> 00:57:20,949
Speaker:
Right.
1606
00:57:20,949 --> 00:57:22,909
Speaker:
She said she can't help it
1607
00:57:22,909 --> 00:57:24,150
Speaker:
because you're beautiful and
1608
00:57:24,150 --> 00:57:24,389
Speaker:
young.
1609
00:57:24,389 --> 00:57:25,909
Speaker:
You deserve to have the best in
life.
1610
00:57:25,909 --> 00:57:27,230
Speaker:
But you didn't deserve it.
1611
00:57:27,230 --> 00:57:29,630
Speaker:
I didn't say she's not
beautiful, but she wasn't
1612
00:57:29,630 --> 00:57:31,389
Speaker:
looking beautiful tonight.
1613
00:57:34,269 --> 00:57:36,329
Speaker:
And she started to refuse to
1614
00:57:36,329 --> 00:57:38,510
Speaker:
participate in the other drag
1615
00:57:38,510 --> 00:57:40,469
Speaker:
pageants and these balls that
1616
00:57:40,469 --> 00:57:42,550
Speaker:
were catering towards white
1617
00:57:42,550 --> 00:57:43,469
Speaker:
contestants.
1618
00:57:43,469 --> 00:57:44,030
Speaker:
Right.
1619
00:57:44,030 --> 00:57:46,909
Speaker:
And that led her to create that
1620
00:57:46,909 --> 00:57:48,630
Speaker:
first ever ballroom house, house
1621
00:57:48,630 --> 00:57:50,269
Speaker:
of Labeija.
1622
00:57:50,269 --> 00:57:55,449
Speaker:
And she was At the the lead of
it as the house mother.
1623
00:57:55,449 --> 00:58:00,090
Speaker:
And that's sort of how the House
system, with like other leaders
1624
00:58:00,090 --> 00:58:02,889
Speaker:
in the community, started to
make their own houses and named
1625
00:58:02,889 --> 00:58:03,769
Speaker:
them after themselves.
1626
00:58:03,769 --> 00:58:05,690
Speaker:
And they were the mother or the
1627
00:58:05,690 --> 00:58:07,230
Speaker:
father in some cases, you know,
1628
00:58:07,230 --> 00:58:08,130
Speaker:
depending.
1629
00:58:09,130 --> 00:58:13,289
Speaker:
And it started to offer the
security for all of the black
1630
00:58:13,289 --> 00:58:19,170
Speaker:
and Latinx, queer, gay trans
people, especially, gay men in
1631
00:58:19,170 --> 00:58:21,730
Speaker:
the beginning and trans women.
1632
00:58:21,730 --> 00:58:22,329
Speaker:
Mhm.
1633
00:58:22,329 --> 00:58:23,869
Speaker:
But now it's very inclusive to
1634
00:58:23,869 --> 00:58:26,010
Speaker:
like any kind of queer people in
1635
00:58:26,010 --> 00:58:26,489
Speaker:
general.
1636
00:58:26,489 --> 00:58:27,090
Speaker:
Right.
1637
00:58:27,090 --> 00:58:31,409
Speaker:
but it still is largely part of
the black and Latinx community.
1638
00:58:31,409 --> 00:58:33,090
Speaker:
And I just thought it was so
cool.
1639
00:58:33,090 --> 00:58:35,849
Speaker:
That's really the roots of it go
so far back.
1640
00:58:35,849 --> 00:58:38,769
Speaker:
And like, even though it was
1641
00:58:38,769 --> 00:58:41,449
Speaker:
originally started so long ago
1642
00:58:41,449 --> 00:58:43,389
Speaker:
by black people, it still had to
1643
00:58:43,389 --> 00:58:45,929
Speaker:
go through this long, decades
1644
00:58:45,929 --> 00:58:48,074
Speaker:
long phase where it was
1645
00:58:48,074 --> 00:58:49,500
Speaker:
Appropriated.
1646
00:58:49,500 --> 00:58:52,300
Speaker:
And it's just like history
repeats itself.
1647
00:58:55,980 --> 00:58:56,460
Speaker:
Yeah.
1648
00:58:56,460 --> 00:58:57,579
Speaker:
Yep.
1649
00:58:57,579 --> 00:59:00,860
Speaker:
So yeah, that's what I got for
you today.
1650
00:59:00,860 --> 00:59:01,300
Speaker:
Cool.
1651
00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:02,619
Speaker:
Thank you for telling me about
that.
1652
00:59:02,619 --> 00:59:04,179
Speaker:
No, I did not know any of that.
1653
00:59:04,179 --> 00:59:04,539
Speaker:
Yeah.
1654
00:59:04,539 --> 00:59:07,500
Speaker:
So I participated in our ball
and it was very fun.
1655
00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:07,860
Speaker:
Oh yeah.
1656
00:59:07,860 --> 00:59:09,739
Speaker:
And everyone was welcome to
participate.
1657
00:59:09,739 --> 00:59:14,139
Speaker:
And it was so full of like joy
and fierceness and.
1658
00:59:14,139 --> 00:59:14,940
Speaker:
Mhm.
1659
00:59:14,940 --> 00:59:15,300
Speaker:
Yeah.
1660
00:59:15,300 --> 00:59:15,940
Speaker:
That's awesome.
1661
00:59:15,940 --> 00:59:19,099
Speaker:
I bet, I bet it was really cool,
like costumes and everything.
1662
00:59:19,099 --> 00:59:21,420
Speaker:
Like, yeah, everybody, it was
Oscars themed.
1663
00:59:21,420 --> 00:59:24,420
Speaker:
So everybody was dressed like
super elegant.
1664
00:59:24,420 --> 00:59:26,420
Speaker:
And yeah, it was really fun.
1665
00:59:26,420 --> 00:59:27,699
Speaker:
Cool.
1666
00:59:27,699 --> 00:59:29,820
Speaker:
Well, thank you for sharing
that.
1667
00:59:29,820 --> 00:59:32,500
Speaker:
And we will be back in a couple
of weeks.
1668
00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:33,659
Speaker:
Yes.
1669
00:59:33,659 --> 00:59:35,539
Speaker:
Don't forget to hit all those
buttons.
1670
00:59:35,539 --> 00:59:36,420
Speaker:
Yeah.
1671
00:59:36,420 --> 00:59:39,539
Speaker:
Comment, like subscribe, do
whatever, do whatever.
1672
00:59:39,539 --> 00:59:40,900
Speaker:
And thanks for listening.
1673
00:59:40,900 --> 00:59:42,300
Speaker:
Look for us on Instagram.
1674
00:59:42,300 --> 00:59:42,980
Speaker:
Okay.
1675
00:59:42,980 --> 00:59:43,420
Speaker:
All right.
1676
00:59:43,420 --> 00:59:44,500
Speaker:
Thanks for listening.
1677
00:59:44,500 --> 00:59:45,260
Speaker:
Talk to you later.
1678
00:59:45,260 --> 00:59:46,340
Speaker:
Bye bye.