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[SPEAKER_03]: And we are back with another episode of the Kileyens Loan show and no better way to kick off a week than having our good friend Larry Johnson back on the show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Larry, how are you doing today?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I am well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for having me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Glad to be back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely, although every time you're saying outside on the line, I give very jealous the weather here is not very comfortable outside.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I always think about, man, maybe I should move the family to Florida.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Florida has a lot to recommend.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't like breaking leaves, shoveling snow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a place for you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, boy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I had to do both of those things in the coming months.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So maybe I just need to look for a listings in Florida.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Larry, a lot I want to talk to you about today.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you got something to say always interesting going back and looking at those now just before we went live here Larry Donald Trump had something interesting to say about
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[SPEAKER_03]: the alleged fly do buy terror attack that happened last week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So let's play this short clip of president down Trump.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And on fly do buy you think Iran was responsible for that terrorist attack?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I personally do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Larry in the past week, Iran has now been blamed for two supposed tarried hats to fly to buy instant, also the one the rest at a are a fair Ford in the UK.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is Iran, you know, launching the asymmetric warfare against the West blow bad terrorism for our war against Iran?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, for starters, asymmetric warfare is usually the sign of us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: of a group, an organization that's weak, they can't attack, uh, head on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, but Iran's had no problem attacking the and kicking the United States ass all over the Persian Gulf and in Jordan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, look, the, uh, this guy was reportedly willing to commit suicide, but terrible at it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you look at suicide bombers, they're not shea.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Shea are aligned with Iran.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a Sunni.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Sunni are generally opposed to Iran.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Sunni extremists, which this guy apparently appears to be part of, they don't even view the Iranians' real Muslims.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So this is just, you know, Donald Trump displayed his ignorance about the culture and the religion once again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, this is just an example of events happening around the world.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like maybe there was some oil smuggling criminal activity around the RAF fair-forward base.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They turned that into an Iranian bad terrorist attack.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We've heard that the UK Prime Minister gave a vague statement like, there's indications that there's linkage to Iran.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Netanyahu more strongly linked that one to Iran down old Trump also said he thought that was a rainy and this fly do buy instant again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just anything that happens we're just going to blame Iran to add to the the general sense of warfare that's what's going on here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm in the looking the looking to dirty upper one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't you know the one hand Trump can't let go of wanting to attack Iran
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he's now looking for an excuse to justify it before the midterm.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so what's it doing is trying to create this narrative that Iran is this hostile terrorist state.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we've discussed before, 95% of all international terrorist
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[SPEAKER_02]: 2001, they've been carried out by radical Sunnis that have nothing to do with Iran.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So this is just, you know, more Western propaganda.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and oftentimes these groups are the enemies of Iran or Iran's allies in the region.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you look at the situation, Yemen right now on sort of a fighting the giants per gate of those bunch of foreign jihadists there, ISIS has carried out terrorist attacks inside of Iran.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that style of suicide terrorism is a hallmark of Sunni jihadism, which again is more interesting and attacking Iran than they are Israel many times.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, while we're on the subject of the Iran War, there's this article in the Guardian, U.S. sends third aircraft carrier to Middle East amidst stalemate in Iran War.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Reports that the U.S. has adding an additional, I think, 2,500 Marines, another MEU, an additional aircraft carrier strike group.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I also said some, saw some analysis that this is down Trump bluffing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: that actually we're not going to have three aircraft carrier strike groups in the region.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We simply don't have the surface fleet to maintain that anymore.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So what is Donald Trump's play here?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is this a build-up bat towards war?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, there's now only, again, this is the case of the news media not getting a story correct.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There is only one aircraft carrier in that area now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Georgia step you bush pulled out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and went to Thailand, Puket, be precise.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So there are three, four days sale away from there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're supposed to be on liberty and Puket until the 9th of October.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, come, come, sorry about that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I come nine, nine October, we're gonna find out it's the ship at the H.W.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bush, and it heads back to the United States, but it's still only two aircraft carriers there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the same thing with the Marines, the Marines looked like they're going out to replace the Marines that are on the USS Boxer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've been at sea for, you know, roughly six months.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a long stand, particularly when, you know, you want the Marines to stay physically fed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not going to stay physically fed on a show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, it's not the same as being on land carrying, you know, carrying an 80 pound rock.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm guessing there's so only so much running that you could do on one of those ships where I'm sure many of these guys are on multiple miles each day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, Larry, I do want to shift over why really want to talk to you about today was the situation you're up the war in Ukraine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Not a lot of discussion going on about this in the US is the war against Ron Rage's on, but it does seem like there's significant escalations going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So documents, and we know that they allow them a tech infrastructure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: logistic, and especially to attack in the cities, in the villages everywhere, roads, schools, hospitals, to pressure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People to live the capital, live different cities.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and because this is the goal of the operations, we have to respond.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in any way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: With their attacks on our energy, we have to respond on their energy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, oil refineries, etc.
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[SPEAKER_00]: what gives money down for this war.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we will not respond, of course, just like them, any civilians or objects.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Zelensky is claiming that Russia is going to step up a tats on civilian infrastructure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now Zelensky says a lot, but there have been a couple Russian drone strides on bridges that cross the Nipro River in Kiev over the past few days is Russia changing their strategy in this war, Larry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they've gone on a full war footing now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They moved away from special military operation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The SMO was a limited operation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they limited their targets.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They limited the kinds of strikes they did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They limited the intensity.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's been about, it's really seven eight weeks ago that Putin spokesman Pashkov announced they were making a change.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And in fact, that change has been evident over the last eight weeks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've imposed a blockade on black sea ports of Ukraine, including Odessa, they've stepped up attacks all along the line of contact.
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[SPEAKER_02]: from Sumi and the North to Carosile and the South.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they have been going aggressively after communications nodes, power nodes, manufacturing sites, logistics sites, to man in control, bunkers, and now the transportation infrastructure
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thinking of the going after locomotives, playing those up and down the bridge, taking out these two bridges or making them to be too dangerous for heavy equipment to go across them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: His design to cut Ukraine's logistics line, their ability to resupply the troops on the front lines in the east.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So Russia is now dramatically stepped up
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[SPEAKER_02]: and is, you know, they're moving more towards the decisive stage to achieve victory, you know, fairly soon.
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[SPEAKER_03]: with the change in strategy is there a change in Russian bulls for the war.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Russia initially had offered to withdraw from the Dombas and it's changed for Ukraine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Never green to join NATO, denotification, et cetera.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The letters later said that they had annexed two southern regions of Ukraine as well as the two Dombas regions and that those would be a part of Russia
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[SPEAKER_03]: But now with the increase in strides along Ukraine's Black Sea coastline is Russia.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I am further territorial taking in Ukraine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I do wonder this, if Russia had been careful about what civilian targets they were going to hit, or targets that could be used for the military and civilians, powered plans, bridges, railways, things like that, knowing they were going to have to live net to the Ukrainian people,
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[SPEAKER_03]: and you're going to take Ukraine's entire Black Sea coastline and truly turn it into a rum state.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Then maybe puns no longer concerned about attacking things that are really going to upset the general population.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think one of the early drawbacks in attacking certain targets was they still wanted to try to maintain communications with the West, hoping that the West would be more amenable to discuss them, working out, working out of potential.
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[SPEAKER_02]: future or settlement, but I think they've decided the West is implacable, it's not in any mood to negotiate, and they're wasting their time, and so I think they've decided now to really step it up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Larry, you know, we got this war on in Ukraine going on, but the tensions between Russia and the West are really seem to be ratcheting up, and this is what Vladimir Putin had to say on October 1st.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If it comes to a direct attack on the Russian Federation, specifically targeting Kulinigrad, or perhaps other territories, then the question of the Russian Federation using all the weaponry at its disposal will inevitably and immediately appear on the agenda.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So last week, three Russian embassies in Europe, along with a letter that Russia sent to NATO warned of potential nuclear warfare between the block if the West tried to isolate Clinton grat is, is there a real threat between conflict between NATO and Russia at this point?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think I mentioned to May have mentioned to you last week during my three weeks in Russia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had a chance to interview and talk with General Optiala Dinoth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And General Optiala Dinoth was very clear that he fully expected that Russia would be at war with Europe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so the Russian army, they are prepared accordingly, both mentally and physically, to do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the threats that have emanated from places like Germany and Poland and Lithuania, they've been very bold and very vile, and Russia is not amused.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're here in these words.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if that's what you want, we'll take you on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The rush is not seeking the conflict, but they basically said, we're not going to start it, but by God we're going to finish it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's what they're up against.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So one of the interesting things to me, Larry, is when I read NATO officials, European American officials, discussing this potential conflict between the US and Russia, it's as the Russian, our nice excuse me, the German foreign intelligence chief said, I believe today, which was that they're expecting Russia to do these, little attacks like knockout certain weapons making facilities
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[SPEAKER_03]: something like we saw an RA out there for those type of situations, but Russia is talking about nuclear warfare, general warfare.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What does that say about the two sides here?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, no, no, failure to communicate.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, I think it's an enemy called a failure to communicate because Russia has made it very clear.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What it's good to do, what it's reaction will be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's the West to keep telling itself, ah, now they don't mean it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, no, they're just blowing off steam.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're just saying, I don't think, you know, this is one of those classic full, fall around, find out, because when Russia will, they've reached, I think, the limit of their patience.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It does concern me because it's somewhat reminds me of 2021 going into 2022 when Russia seems to be very serious about Ukraine and really trying to warn the West and saying, hey, if you continue to push here, there's going to be repercussions and the Biden administration essentially openly amidst that they didn't take the Russian seriously that they didn't think they were going to invade Ukraine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so they didn't want to seriously negotiate with Russia
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, Poon was just blowing smoke, you think there's a similar miscalculation going on in the west of this time around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, very much so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Very much so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They still, they still think Russia's a corrupt, backward state with a dead economy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess they didn't post Nina as a country.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we saw that on display if you're watching the interview that Tucker Carlson did with his guy, Reese, Lou, or Mug, I mean, just to quit the central English elite, some guy thinks he was born to rule others.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and just had such a condescending way about him and talking down to people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think it's more than just to cover his own inadequacies.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But within that, he was just talking about Russia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, claiming that Russia had a terrible economy, and I'm going to think that they were, you know,
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[SPEAKER_02]: And for example, one way you measure the strength of a country is this production of steel.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Russia is in the top five producers of steel in the world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: England is not even in the top ten.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Having once they were in the top ten, but no longer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Fantastic point Larry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, one particular area of tension between NATO and Russia seems to be Clinton grad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I want to play this clip.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's from July of last year by this general Chris Donahue, talking about how NATO could interfere with Russia's Ed's claim of Clinton grad.
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[SPEAKER_06]: If you look at Clinton grad, Ed, it's, you know, you can argue back
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[SPEAKER_06]: surrounded by NATO on all sides.
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[SPEAKER_06]: There's absolutely no reason why that A2AD bubble to deter Russia, we cannot take that down from the ground in a time frame that is unheard of and faster than we've ever been able to do.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We've already planned that, we've already developed it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Larry, I'm increasingly concerned that NATO might try to do something with Clinton, grad to put pressure on Russia.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Ukrainians are facing a $50 billion budget shortfall this year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're talking about borrowing against loans that are supposed to get next year in order to get money to cover this year's budget.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But the Ukrainians are saying, we need an end to this work, because it's not going well, would NATO try something with Clinton, grad, and would what
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think NATO's better talking about doing something is actually doing it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If they tried to, you know, it'd be a ground invasion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It mounted from Poland and from Lithuania come in two sides.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At that point, Russia would be compelled to use nuclear weapons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It might start with the arrest, but it certainly is tactical nuclear weapons, both against Warsaw and against Lithuania.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you'd see a horrific devastation outside of Kaliningrad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and one of the things I wonder if the West has really calculated, I read a story recently that Russia doesn't have a whole lot of ground forces or military capabilities up north right now around the Baltic states because all their forces are fighting the war against Ukraine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so if NATO attempted to, you know, think that if we put pressure on Clinton grad,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Russia would escalate with the land invasion first and then we would be able to fight it out from there, maybe bog Russia down and let the waning like we have in Ukraine, Russia might not have the capability to do that and just go further up the escalation ladder in order to try to resolve it, rather than pulling forces from Ukraine to try to find another front of a land battle or whatever else the west imagine that Russia would do in response.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, look, what the last four years, so let's go with the, let's start with the February 2022, the start of the special military operation followed by the 12th-day war against Iran.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the operation prosperity guardian to take control of the Red Sea from the Houthis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: then the most recent results of the U.S. attack on Iran, the myth of U.S. military supremacy has been demolished, and people can see clearly that the U.S. is very weak relative to what people perceive, but they thought the U.S. could do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It turns out the U.S. can't do what
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, we failed to stop the Houthis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We basically ran out of ammunition and our tax owner Vaughan and from the last July or a year ago, I guess, go back to the 12th day war in June of 2025 and then looking at the attacks this year, again, he came up with the limitations of U.S. military power.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That I think has been the biggest surprise and shock to military planners in China and Russia, and perhaps some of the Allied nations as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I think it's come as such a shot to Americans that some of them, I really think had trouble believing in after all, Larry, we spend a trillion dollars at the actual military budget much higher than that, but an average American might say, we spend a trillion dollars on our military.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We should have no problem mopping up on Tsarala and Yemen while also fighting Iran because of Iran's a poor country.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They have some missiles, but they don't have an air force.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They don't have an aircraft carrier.
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[SPEAKER_03]: they just have a missile and drone program.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So why?
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[SPEAKER_03]: How is the American military so unable to deal with these countries when?
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's so much money is dumped into it and we have these extraordinary platforms in some way, like an aircraft carrier.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they have a nuclear reactor on that thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They could land and take ships of planes off of fighter jets off of a floating barge and that's fairly impressive.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How is it that these impressive, expensive military can't even defeat on Sarala and Yemen?
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[SPEAKER_02]: These are, the aircraft carriers are to the 20th century, but the horse cavalry was to the 19th century.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I noticed that the horse cavalry continued to operate in World War I, and was finally largely, I know deactivated as part of the US military, and I believe it was 1940 or 1941.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, clearly, with the development of the machine gun, the horse was no longer a good means of transportation on the battlefield.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's where people shifted to armored personnel carriers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, today, with the used to be that the aircraft carrier was, as you said, a great floating airfield.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The way to get it close to a country we wanted to attack,
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[SPEAKER_02]: without having to worry about flying planes from a distant location and having a mirror refueled.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The problem is the development of hypersonic missiles, which Iran has, and Russia has, and China has.
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[SPEAKER_02]: United States has one, and it's even questionable if it works.
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[SPEAKER_02]: have the speed and the reach to destroy an aircraft carrier, which then renders it again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's more vulnerable as opposed to end vulnerable.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you're putting a lot of sailors and marines at risk.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it wasn't a year and a half ago on Sarala almost hit an American aircraft carrier and the Red Sea got so close.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They had to made a hard turn and a fighter jet fell off the deck of the thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So clearly it was a close shot and.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If on Sarala, which has an impressive recently drone program for a very broken isolated country in Yemen, but still, you know, doesn't have satellites in space and, you know, guidance systems like China and Russia would.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I imagine the aircraft carriers in a conflict with them would be just absolutely one sighted.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, Larry, before I want to let
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[SPEAKER_03]: let you go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I did want to talk about what's going on in Yemen, where Saudi Arabia, fighting the hoothees, apparently on Friday, J.D.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Vance and other top members of the Trump administration all gathered at Camp David to discuss what to do next.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Saudi Arabia is bombing the hell out of Yemen, but as far as the battle maps go,
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[SPEAKER_03]: It seems like on Sarala is still taking territory, they've now completely surrounded Yemen's third largest city, uh, Tais.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And, uh, look like they're moving in on capturing that territory as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And is the U.S. going to get directly involved is Donald Trump prepared to do whatever it takes to prevent, uh, the complete wipe out of the Saudi bad forces in government in Yemen?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did the ploy enough US troops, they intervened, they would just likely increase US casualties, because the Houthis, these are some tough mountain people, and they don't care who they kill.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If it's an opponent, the United States can't do anything with its navy,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even the aircraft carriers are as we demonstrated in 2020-25 or two vulnerable.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That leaves a ground force.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we're going to, where are you going to get it and how many are you going to send?
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[SPEAKER_02]: A Yemen is building an army of 400,000 roughly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: strength in the U.S. Army, everybody around the world, from Asia, to Africa, Latin America, Europe, is 450,000, so right off the bat, United States would be outnumbered, and it's questionable whether they could actually do pull anything off of any strategic significance
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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Larry, thank you once again for your time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I really appreciate that we get kick off the show with you each week here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Your insights are really invaluable and help my listeners like get ready for the week all the news.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to have the chaos of the Trump administration.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So thank you for your time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, Kyle always a pleasure and yeah, you've got it correctly noted.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Stand by for chaos.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we are back with another episode of the Kileyens Loan show and no better way to kick off a week than having our good friend Larry Johnson back on the show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Larry, how are you doing today?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I am well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for having me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Glad to be back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely, although every time you're saying outside on the line, I give very jealous the weather here is not very comfortable outside.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I always think about, man, maybe I should move the family to Florida.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Florida has a lot to recommend.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't like breaking leaves, shoveling snow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a place for you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, boy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I had to do both of those things in the coming months.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So maybe I just need to look for a listings in Florida.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Larry, a lot I want to talk to you about today.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you got something to say always interesting going back and looking at those now just before we went live here Larry Donald Trump had something interesting to say about
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[SPEAKER_03]: the alleged fly do buy terror attack that happened last week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So let's play this short clip of president down Trump.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And on fly do buy you think Iran was responsible for that terrorist attack?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I personally do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Larry in the past week, Iran has now been blamed for two supposed tarried hats to fly to buy instant, also the one the rest at a are a fair Ford in the UK.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is Iran, you know, launching the asymmetric warfare against the West blow bad terrorism for our war against Iran?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, for starters, asymmetric warfare is usually the sign of us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: of a group, an organization that's weak, they can't attack, uh, head on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, but Iran's had no problem attacking the and kicking the United States ass all over the Persian Gulf and in Jordan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, look, the, uh, this guy was reportedly willing to commit suicide, but terrible at it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you look at suicide bombers, they're not shea.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Shea are aligned with Iran.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a Sunni.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Sunni are generally opposed to Iran.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Sunni extremists, which this guy apparently appears to be part of, they don't even view the Iranians' real Muslims.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So this is just, you know, Donald Trump displayed his ignorance about the culture and the religion once again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, this is just an example of events happening around the world.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like maybe there was some oil smuggling criminal activity around the RAF fair-forward base.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They turned that into an Iranian bad terrorist attack.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We've heard that the UK Prime Minister gave a vague statement like, there's indications that there's linkage to Iran.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Netanyahu more strongly linked that one to Iran down old Trump also said he thought that was a rainy and this fly do buy instant again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just anything that happens we're just going to blame Iran to add to the the general sense of warfare that's what's going on here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm in the looking the looking to dirty upper one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't you know the one hand Trump can't let go of wanting to attack Iran
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he's now looking for an excuse to justify it before the midterm.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so what's it doing is trying to create this narrative that Iran is this hostile terrorist state.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we've discussed before, 95% of all international terrorist
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[SPEAKER_02]: 2001, they've been carried out by radical Sunnis that have nothing to do with Iran.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So this is just, you know, more Western propaganda.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and oftentimes these groups are the enemies of Iran or Iran's allies in the region.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you look at the situation, Yemen right now on sort of a fighting the giants per gate of those bunch of foreign jihadists there, ISIS has carried out terrorist attacks inside of Iran.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that style of suicide terrorism is a hallmark of Sunni jihadism, which again is more interesting and attacking Iran than they are Israel many times.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, while we're on the subject of the Iran War, there's this article in the Guardian, U.S. sends third aircraft carrier to Middle East amidst stalemate in Iran War.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Reports that the U.S. has adding an additional, I think, 2,500 Marines, another MEU, an additional aircraft carrier strike group.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I also said some, saw some analysis that this is down Trump bluffing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: that actually we're not going to have three aircraft carrier strike groups in the region.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We simply don't have the surface fleet to maintain that anymore.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So what is Donald Trump's play here?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is this a build-up bat towards war?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, there's now only, again, this is the case of the news media not getting a story correct.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There is only one aircraft carrier in that area now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Georgia step you bush pulled out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and went to Thailand, Puket, be precise.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So there are three, four days sale away from there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're supposed to be on liberty and Puket until the 9th of October.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, come, come, sorry about that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I come nine, nine October, we're gonna find out it's the ship at the H.W.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bush, and it heads back to the United States, but it's still only two aircraft carriers there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the same thing with the Marines, the Marines looked like they're going out to replace the Marines that are on the USS Boxer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've been at sea for, you know, roughly six months.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a long stand, particularly when, you know, you want the Marines to stay physically fed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not going to stay physically fed on a show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, it's not the same as being on land carrying, you know, carrying an 80 pound rock.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm guessing there's so only so much running that you could do on one of those ships where I'm sure many of these guys are on multiple miles each day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, Larry, I do want to shift over why really want to talk to you about today was the situation you're up the war in Ukraine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Not a lot of discussion going on about this in the US is the war against Ron Rage's on, but it does seem like there's significant escalations going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So documents, and we know that they allow them a tech infrastructure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: logistic, and especially to attack in the cities, in the villages everywhere, roads, schools, hospitals, to pressure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People to live the capital, live different cities.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and because this is the goal of the operations, we have to respond.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in any way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: With their attacks on our energy, we have to respond on their energy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, oil refineries, etc.
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[SPEAKER_00]: what gives money down for this war.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we will not respond, of course, just like them, any civilians or objects.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Zelensky is claiming that Russia is going to step up a tats on civilian infrastructure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now Zelensky says a lot, but there have been a couple Russian drone strides on bridges that cross the Nipro River in Kiev over the past few days is Russia changing their strategy in this war, Larry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they've gone on a full war footing now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They moved away from special military operation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The SMO was a limited operation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they limited their targets.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They limited the kinds of strikes they did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They limited the intensity.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's been about, it's really seven eight weeks ago that Putin spokesman Pashkov announced they were making a change.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And in fact, that change has been evident over the last eight weeks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've imposed a blockade on black sea ports of Ukraine, including Odessa, they've stepped up attacks all along the line of contact.
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[SPEAKER_02]: from Sumi and the North to Carosile and the South.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they have been going aggressively after communications nodes, power nodes, manufacturing sites, logistics sites, to man in control, bunkers, and now the transportation infrastructure
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thinking of the going after locomotives, playing those up and down the bridge, taking out these two bridges or making them to be too dangerous for heavy equipment to go across them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: His design to cut Ukraine's logistics line, their ability to resupply the troops on the front lines in the east.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So Russia is now dramatically stepped up
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[SPEAKER_02]: and is, you know, they're moving more towards the decisive stage to achieve victory, you know, fairly soon.
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[SPEAKER_03]: with the change in strategy is there a change in Russian bulls for the war.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Russia initially had offered to withdraw from the Dombas and it's changed for Ukraine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Never green to join NATO, denotification, et cetera.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The letters later said that they had annexed two southern regions of Ukraine as well as the two Dombas regions and that those would be a part of Russia
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[SPEAKER_03]: But now with the increase in strides along Ukraine's Black Sea coastline is Russia.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I am further territorial taking in Ukraine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I do wonder this, if Russia had been careful about what civilian targets they were going to hit, or targets that could be used for the military and civilians, powered plans, bridges, railways, things like that, knowing they were going to have to live net to the Ukrainian people,
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[SPEAKER_03]: and you're going to take Ukraine's entire Black Sea coastline and truly turn it into a rum state.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Then maybe puns no longer concerned about attacking things that are really going to upset the general population.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think one of the early drawbacks in attacking certain targets was they still wanted to try to maintain communications with the West, hoping that the West would be more amenable to discuss them, working out, working out of potential.
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[SPEAKER_02]: future or settlement, but I think they've decided the West is implacable, it's not in any mood to negotiate, and they're wasting their time, and so I think they've decided now to really step it up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Larry, you know, we got this war on in Ukraine going on, but the tensions between Russia and the West are really seem to be ratcheting up, and this is what Vladimir Putin had to say on October 1st.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If it comes to a direct attack on the Russian Federation, specifically targeting Kulinigrad, or perhaps other territories, then the question of the Russian Federation using all the weaponry at its disposal will inevitably and immediately appear on the agenda.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So last week, three Russian embassies in Europe, along with a letter that Russia sent to NATO warned of potential nuclear warfare between the block if the West tried to isolate Clinton grat is, is there a real threat between conflict between NATO and Russia at this point?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think I mentioned to May have mentioned to you last week during my three weeks in Russia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had a chance to interview and talk with General Optiala Dinoth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And General Optiala Dinoth was very clear that he fully expected that Russia would be at war with Europe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so the Russian army, they are prepared accordingly, both mentally and physically, to do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the threats that have emanated from places like Germany and Poland and Lithuania, they've been very bold and very vile, and Russia is not amused.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're here in these words.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if that's what you want, we'll take you on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The rush is not seeking the conflict, but they basically said, we're not going to start it, but by God we're going to finish it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's what they're up against.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So one of the interesting things to me, Larry, is when I read NATO officials, European American officials, discussing this potential conflict between the US and Russia, it's as the Russian, our nice excuse me, the German foreign intelligence chief said, I believe today, which was that they're expecting Russia to do these, little attacks like knockout certain weapons making facilities
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[SPEAKER_03]: something like we saw an RA out there for those type of situations, but Russia is talking about nuclear warfare, general warfare.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What does that say about the two sides here?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, no, no, failure to communicate.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, I think it's an enemy called a failure to communicate because Russia has made it very clear.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What it's good to do, what it's reaction will be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's the West to keep telling itself, ah, now they don't mean it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, no, they're just blowing off steam.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're just saying, I don't think, you know, this is one of those classic full, fall around, find out, because when Russia will, they've reached, I think, the limit of their patience.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It does concern me because it's somewhat reminds me of 2021 going into 2022 when Russia seems to be very serious about Ukraine and really trying to warn the West and saying, hey, if you continue to push here, there's going to be repercussions and the Biden administration essentially openly amidst that they didn't take the Russian seriously that they didn't think they were going to invade Ukraine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so they didn't want to seriously negotiate with Russia
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, Poon was just blowing smoke, you think there's a similar miscalculation going on in the west of this time around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, very much so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Very much so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They still, they still think Russia's a corrupt, backward state with a dead economy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess they didn't post Nina as a country.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we saw that on display if you're watching the interview that Tucker Carlson did with his guy, Reese, Lou, or Mug, I mean, just to quit the central English elite, some guy thinks he was born to rule others.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and just had such a condescending way about him and talking down to people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think it's more than just to cover his own inadequacies.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But within that, he was just talking about Russia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, claiming that Russia had a terrible economy, and I'm going to think that they were, you know,
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[SPEAKER_02]: And for example, one way you measure the strength of a country is this production of steel.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Russia is in the top five producers of steel in the world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: England is not even in the top ten.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Having once they were in the top ten, but no longer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Fantastic point Larry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, one particular area of tension between NATO and Russia seems to be Clinton grad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I want to play this clip.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's from July of last year by this general Chris Donahue, talking about how NATO could interfere with Russia's Ed's claim of Clinton grad.
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[SPEAKER_06]: If you look at Clinton grad, Ed, it's, you know, you can argue back
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[SPEAKER_06]: surrounded by NATO on all sides.
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[SPEAKER_06]: There's absolutely no reason why that A2AD bubble to deter Russia, we cannot take that down from the ground in a time frame that is unheard of and faster than we've ever been able to do.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We've already planned that, we've already developed it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Larry, I'm increasingly concerned that NATO might try to do something with Clinton, grad to put pressure on Russia.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Ukrainians are facing a $50 billion budget shortfall this year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're talking about borrowing against loans that are supposed to get next year in order to get money to cover this year's budget.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But the Ukrainians are saying, we need an end to this work, because it's not going well, would NATO try something with Clinton, grad, and would what
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think NATO's better talking about doing something is actually doing it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If they tried to, you know, it'd be a ground invasion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It mounted from Poland and from Lithuania come in two sides.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At that point, Russia would be compelled to use nuclear weapons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It might start with the arrest, but it certainly is tactical nuclear weapons, both against Warsaw and against Lithuania.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you'd see a horrific devastation outside of Kaliningrad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and one of the things I wonder if the West has really calculated, I read a story recently that Russia doesn't have a whole lot of ground forces or military capabilities up north right now around the Baltic states because all their forces are fighting the war against Ukraine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so if NATO attempted to, you know, think that if we put pressure on Clinton grad,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Russia would escalate with the land invasion first and then we would be able to fight it out from there, maybe bog Russia down and let the waning like we have in Ukraine, Russia might not have the capability to do that and just go further up the escalation ladder in order to try to resolve it, rather than pulling forces from Ukraine to try to find another front of a land battle or whatever else the west imagine that Russia would do in response.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, look, what the last four years, so let's go with the, let's start with the February 2022, the start of the special military operation followed by the 12th-day war against Iran.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the operation prosperity guardian to take control of the Red Sea from the Houthis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: then the most recent results of the U.S. attack on Iran, the myth of U.S. military supremacy has been demolished, and people can see clearly that the U.S. is very weak relative to what people perceive, but they thought the U.S. could do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It turns out the U.S. can't do what
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, we failed to stop the Houthis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We basically ran out of ammunition and our tax owner Vaughan and from the last July or a year ago, I guess, go back to the 12th day war in June of 2025 and then looking at the attacks this year, again, he came up with the limitations of U.S. military power.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That I think has been the biggest surprise and shock to military planners in China and Russia, and perhaps some of the Allied nations as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I think it's come as such a shot to Americans that some of them, I really think had trouble believing in after all, Larry, we spend a trillion dollars at the actual military budget much higher than that, but an average American might say, we spend a trillion dollars on our military.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We should have no problem mopping up on Tsarala and Yemen while also fighting Iran because of Iran's a poor country.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They have some missiles, but they don't have an air force.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They don't have an aircraft carrier.
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[SPEAKER_03]: they just have a missile and drone program.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So why?
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[SPEAKER_03]: How is the American military so unable to deal with these countries when?
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's so much money is dumped into it and we have these extraordinary platforms in some way, like an aircraft carrier.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they have a nuclear reactor on that thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They could land and take ships of planes off of fighter jets off of a floating barge and that's fairly impressive.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How is it that these impressive, expensive military can't even defeat on Sarala and Yemen?
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[SPEAKER_02]: These are, the aircraft carriers are to the 20th century, but the horse cavalry was to the 19th century.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I noticed that the horse cavalry continued to operate in World War I, and was finally largely, I know deactivated as part of the US military, and I believe it was 1940 or 1941.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, clearly, with the development of the machine gun, the horse was no longer a good means of transportation on the battlefield.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's where people shifted to armored personnel carriers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, today, with the used to be that the aircraft carrier was, as you said, a great floating airfield.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The way to get it close to a country we wanted to attack,
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[SPEAKER_02]: without having to worry about flying planes from a distant location and having a mirror refueled.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The problem is the development of hypersonic missiles, which Iran has, and Russia has, and China has.
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[SPEAKER_02]: United States has one, and it's even questionable if it works.
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[SPEAKER_02]: have the speed and the reach to destroy an aircraft carrier, which then renders it again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's more vulnerable as opposed to end vulnerable.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you're putting a lot of sailors and marines at risk.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it wasn't a year and a half ago on Sarala almost hit an American aircraft carrier and the Red Sea got so close.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They had to made a hard turn and a fighter jet fell off the deck of the thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So clearly it was a close shot and.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If on Sarala, which has an impressive recently drone program for a very broken isolated country in Yemen, but still, you know, doesn't have satellites in space and, you know, guidance systems like China and Russia would.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I imagine the aircraft carriers in a conflict with them would be just absolutely one sighted.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, Larry, before I want to let
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[SPEAKER_03]: let you go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I did want to talk about what's going on in Yemen, where Saudi Arabia, fighting the hoothees, apparently on Friday, J.D.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Vance and other top members of the Trump administration all gathered at Camp David to discuss what to do next.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Saudi Arabia is bombing the hell out of Yemen, but as far as the battle maps go,
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[SPEAKER_03]: It seems like on Sarala is still taking territory, they've now completely surrounded Yemen's third largest city, uh, Tais.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And, uh, look like they're moving in on capturing that territory as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And is the U.S. going to get directly involved is Donald Trump prepared to do whatever it takes to prevent, uh, the complete wipe out of the Saudi bad forces in government in Yemen?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did the ploy enough US troops, they intervened, they would just likely increase US casualties, because the Houthis, these are some tough mountain people, and they don't care who they kill.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If it's an opponent, the United States can't do anything with its navy,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even the aircraft carriers are as we demonstrated in 2020-25 or two vulnerable.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That leaves a ground force.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we're going to, where are you going to get it and how many are you going to send?
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[SPEAKER_02]: A Yemen is building an army of 400,000 roughly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: strength in the U.S. Army, everybody around the world, from Asia, to Africa, Latin America, Europe, is 450,000, so right off the bat, United States would be outnumbered, and it's questionable whether they could actually do pull anything off of any strategic significance
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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Larry, thank you once again for your time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I really appreciate that we get kick off the show with you each week here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Your insights are really invaluable and help my listeners like get ready for the week all the news.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to have the chaos of the Trump administration.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So thank you for your time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, Kyle always a pleasure and yeah, you've got it correctly noted.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Stand by for chaos.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, so everybody, we will have Larry back on that's week to discuss all the bad news that's happened and of in all the chaos and of course we'll have three other great shows this week And your day coming back to the show on Wednesday lying up some more great guests for Thursday and Friday So be sure to subscribe to the show so you don't miss any of those episodes and like and share today's episode of the Kyle lands alone show.
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