The Sopranos - Full Analysis & Breakdown - Jay Dyer / Jamie Hanshaw

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Dire Way. Who is this, I.
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Don't know, it's me. It's amid the Ruins, this guy
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who makes dire Way of Music. It's amid the Ruins
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and sense.
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Dire Way Music.
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What I've talked about in you know, probably one hundred
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articles of Jason Analysis is the implementation of the AI
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smart grit in the giant smart cities, which is what
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IBM talks about publicly building. And that's where we're going,
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and that's what I think we have to be really
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concerned about. So all of these tensions, they are for
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a long term strategy to basically get everybody moved into
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mega cities.
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That's going. Are you guys doing? Come on, don't get
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pitchy now what you trying to start the show?
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I perfected my Tony by the way, as you can see,
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I have perfected my Tony. My Polly. It's almost there.
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I got a little bit of ways to go with
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the Polly, but maybe we can work on our Polly tonight.
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Welcome everybody, This is Jason Elsis. We're going to be
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covering the Sopranos, as you know, long requested, long forgotten.
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I just avoided it, not on purpose, that's kind of
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like X Files. I always wanted to watch X Files,
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but I never got into it, and then I finally did.
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I've never seen it either.
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Yeah, I get you in here. You look better than me.
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I spent an hour and a half trying to get
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nineties New Jersey.
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Woman hair, so she looks like Adrian and.
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I think that it is witchcraft because I cannot. I
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couldn't do it. This is the best that came out.
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I don't think they make hairspray like that anymore.
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Come on, you look good, you look no problem my
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life tea.
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All right, So before we get going here, thank you,
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Welcome everybody. We're gonna be covering the entirety of the Sopranos,
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the whole thing. I was gonna wear my white jacket
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over this just to be kind of mobster, but I
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decided that's a little too I look like Tony Montana.
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I don't look like Tony Soprano. Well you look like
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Adriana though, so that you work but look like Tony Monks.
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That's actually one of the themes in the show The
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Sopranos is that they glamorize their own lifestyle by watching
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Goodfellas and Godfather and all the mobster movies, but the
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way that they are portrayed in the Sopranos is that
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it's not very glamorous. You know, Tony's just like an overweight,
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balding dude who lives in the suburbs and he's got
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suburban problems. He wears his bathrobe and he hangs out
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and eats ice cream at night. He doesn't really live
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this high powered, glamorous Yeah.
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Well, that's the thing with this show is that it's
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going to have elements of more realistic mafia type of
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living and lifestyle at the same time is having a
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lot of unbelievable elements because, as everybody knows, there's no
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way that a actual living, existing head of a family
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or a dawn would be going to a psychiatrist and
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telling her all of his problems. That would be the
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end of his career. He would be done. So that's unbelievable.
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But that's the fantasy fiction element of this is just
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the premise of the show, which is great, which is
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what if a mobster did actually go to a psychiatrist,
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a psychologist and unloaded all of his problems on her.
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You know, what would that be like? What would it
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be before we get into this though, let's step back.
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What is your overall impression? So this came out, I'm
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going to give you my overall impression in you before
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we get into the details. This came out starting right
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at the turn of the millennium, So it's about ninety
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eight ninety nine when the first season starts, so it's
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a little bit before the Big Nine event. It's in
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many ways it's it's interesting to reflect on that time
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period right right before for the Big nine event. And
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this actually comes into the show, like they bring up
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the Big Nine event after it happens. It becomes kind
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of a side plot about some of the Arab guys
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in the series who hang out at the Bottoming that
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will play into the final season. But aside from that,
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a lot of the cultural references of the stuff that
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Meadow and aj are into, the pop culture that they're into,
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the stuff she's presented with at college, the literature that
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they're reading in reference, it was it was interesting to
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kind of step back into that time machine to which
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I remember vividly. I remember, you know, when nine to
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when one happened. I remember what was going on at
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that time. I didn't watch the Sopranos at the time,
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so I knew about it. I had heard about it,
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but it's kind of in the period where I was
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kind of not really watching TV shows, and yeah, I.
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Had never seen one episode either, so it was all fresh.
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And it's a very interesting transition to have that big
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event in the TV show because there were scenes that
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they had to take out because of that. I didn't
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know that in the credits and other.
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Places in relation to the Big nine event. Yeah, okay,
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Now I want to remind everybody that we do have
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super chats, so welcome. We got two hundred and twenty
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five nerds. There will be spoilers, by the way, so
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if you've not watched the full series of Spranos, we
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will be spoiling it at the end and maybe then
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support through superchats, as you know, and we'll be reading
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those eventually and let me pull up that link. And
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then we got our trustee mods in the house. Shout
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out to the mods. They will be helping with that.
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But you can ask your superchat questions there. We're going
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to get into all of the different layers and elements,
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the geopolitical, the historical, the character studies, the archetypes, the
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literary references, the espionage references that come up, actually, the
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relationship with the FBI, this kind of stuff that all
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plays into this show in a masterful way. So my
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initial analysis is that when I started the show, I
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wasn't sure what I was getting into, and I didn't
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know what kind of a show it would be. And
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it's a genre defying show. It doesn't it plays on
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some of the Mafia tropes in film, but it also
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goes in directions you don't expect. It's very comedic. I
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didn't expect it to be really funny. A lot of
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the episodes are very comedic. Tony is very comedic. The characters,
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they're one liners, they're jokes, they're you know, making fun
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of each other. This is all kind of a staple
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of Mafia stuff. But it's played off really well. Some
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of the episodes are surrealist, which I didn't expect, especially
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Tony's dream sequences, which I thought were done very well.
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I didn't expect those in the middle of, you know,
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really serious mafia stories to have these kind of you know,
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surrealest dream sequences with talking fish and this kind of stuff.
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Well, they had a lot of philosophical questions.
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Yes, and we we'll get into that too. So what's
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your initial overall assessment, Because it took me all the
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way through season one to really like it. I was
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still iffy at the end of season one. By the
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time I started season two, I was hooked. So I
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didn't initially get hooked. But sometimes the shows that you
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like the best, it doesn't initially you don't get hooked
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right away. Even songs, like the first time you hear
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a song, maybe you don't like it as much as
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you know.
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Yeah, it was the same for me. We started it
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and the first couple of episodes, I was thinking, what
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is the big deal about this show? It almost every
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show or episode in that season was set in the
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strip club, so it's not really a family show. But
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and then I was.
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Thinking, more unless you're from a prominent strip club lineage
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your family.
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But I think that's was one of the draws of
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an Sally is like, you don't see a lot of
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that on TV, and so.
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What on TV? The Mafia on TV? Oh, well maybe
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I mean it's the show to let you know, the
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show is a dramedy. I would argue it's a it's
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a tragedy. It's a comedic tragedy is really what this
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whole series is. Tony is a tragic figure in terms.
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Of literally There's also an overarching question in the show
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is that can a psychopath be redeemed? Or is Tony
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a psychopath or a sociopath? For one? And can he
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help himself? For two? So I think we'll answer that
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question yes in the show.
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And I do have some knowledge, just cursory of the
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whole realm of crime, syndicates and mobsters. It's because it
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ties into you know, Espiona's research research, uh, and so
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there are different kind of theories and analysis as too.
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You know, just like with The Godfather, the series is
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kind of based on probably an amalgamation of different families.
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There's the Dicabolcante family, which is one of the well
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known families as you know or may not know. There's
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you know, the Five Families. There's other families connected to
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those families, other syndicates and whatnot connected to Sicilian mafia
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and so forth. So you know, you've probably heard of
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figures like John Gotti or the Colombo family or these
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kinds of people. So this is sort of loosely referencing
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some of those families. And some of the analyzes that
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I read said that they think that Sopranos is based
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on Di Cabocante because of the waste management So they
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actually had a front that was a waste management business.
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That's Tony's business. When you start the show, we don't
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exactly know how Tony is really making all his money.
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It's not exactly explained that I recall. It says, yes,
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eventually they're sort of stealing cars, and then they have
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that sequence where they go to Italy and they he
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meets with that hot Italian chick and he tries to
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sell you know, her cars and whatnot. So we know
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they're stealing cars and shipping them off for another price
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in Europe, and but there's other things that they're doing.
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We don't exactly know where Tony got his initial wealth
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because he does live in this pretty nice Jersey house.
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He lives in a house nicer than everybody else. Basically,
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go ahead, yeah, well, the.
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The money making part is not really integral part of
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the show. It's just kind of in the background of
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his own psychological dramas and relationships.
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Yeah. I mean that's this as all good stories are.
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You know, they're not just about crime or or heists
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or this is about the character. It's about the it's
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a character study. Everybody's character arc is pretty fascinating. It's
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you get into the characters, which it's it's not easy
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to draw an audience and to the characters, especially when
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they're bad guys. And I think that that's the good
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point the difficult part of a movie, and that's probably
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why mafia movies are successful, is because they they're able
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to the good ones, are able to get us to
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feel sorry for, empathize with and understand how somebody comes
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to be that way and live that kind of a lifestyle.
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Yeah, he was one of the first kind of anti
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heroes and TV, so he kind of paid the way
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for characters in like Breaking Bad.
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Interesting, I never thought about that. Yeah, that's a great point.
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So let's get into where we begin. We see at
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the beginning Tony is going to a psychiatrist. As he said,
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if you watch the famous kind of YouTube videos that
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are going around of Michael friend ZC who's the a
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former mob boss. I don't remember what family, But you know,
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he's he gives an analysis of different mobster movies, and
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he says that that's the most unbelievable aspect of this
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whole series, is the whole idea of going to see
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a psychiatrist. So, but this is a fictional series. We're
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going to set that aside. We're going to suspend our
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disbelief for a moment and just figure out what it
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would be like if this did happen. And so what
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happens is, of course he's immediately kind of at the outsets,
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prescribed prozac, and the most important symbolic sequences in season
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one that our call it's been a while since I
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did season one, but is when he sees different animals
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and the ducks. So the ducks are the most important
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thing in season one because they're hanging out in the
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pool and Tony, for some reason, feels this kind of
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association and attraction to these ducks. I'm not exactly sure
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what the connection of the ducks is, except that perhaps
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they signify an omen because as we know, the series
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is going to end in a certain way, and the
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ducks never come back, if I recall, unless they're seen
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maybe at the end of season one, he season flying,
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but they don't come hang out anymore, and there will
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be multiple animal references, nature references throughout the show where
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we will see the bear kind of wandering into the backyard.
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I've got notes, I don't remember time. Last episod oh yeah.
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The cat plays an important role in the finale. So
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the animal sequences basically signify I think Tony as a
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force of nature. Tony is a kind of an agent
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of death. He's an angel of death. And the other
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unbelievable suspension of disbelief aspect to the show that we're
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going to encounter with Tony is that he never loses,
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He never gets busted, he never gets caught. He escapes
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out of everything. He's He wins, wins, wins, winning, right
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all the way until the last season. Then we start
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to get the intimations, the omens that pop up, the foreshadowing,
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the presignifiers that it's not probably going to go that
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well for Tony in the final season. Don't forget the horse.
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Tony has the connection to the horse, so he consistently
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starts having these associations and deep connections with animal symbolism,
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animal forces, the forces of nature. This is for multiple reasons.
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But when we get to the end, I'll tell you
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why I think Tony has this deep connection to nature
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and to animals, because it will all be basically explained
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in the final season, and a lot of the recurring
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symbolism you want to pay attention to. This will be
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key because as you watch the series now, looking back,
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knowing what happens at the end, you can see a
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lot of the clues that were being laying so that
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you could understand and interpret the final episode, and in fact,
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the beginning of season six, the first episode is the
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pre signifier of the final episode. So the season is
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basically just going to kind of lay it out on
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the table in a lot of symbolic correspondences and clues,
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so you're gonna know by the final season what's going
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on here. We got most people obviously speculating in the chat,
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so feel free to leave your super chats and I'll
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read those if you want to. But so now let's
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get into it. So it's waste management. She's talking to
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the to the woman, this annoying I can't stand this woman.
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It was the whole time I was like, please stop
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going to this annoying psychiatrist She's the most annoying person
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in the series, next to Janice. Okay, Janice and the psychiatrist.
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I cringe. They're revolting people I can't stand.
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And the mom.
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Oh yeah, yeah. They're all equal, they're all equal.
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The actress who played this psychiatrist was supposed to play
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the wife she wanted the psychiatrist.
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Which is that because that actress plays Rayleiota's wife and Goodfellas.
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So in Goodfellas she is the mom's wife, and that's
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probably why she was up for that role.
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Sopranos shares twenty seven total cast members with good Vellas WHOA.
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So they're very closely linked. And it's interesting to study
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the mob because the way that they operate is how
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the Illuminati operates.
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And so the families of the Illuminati they also fight
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with each other. They're not all on the same yes
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page about areas.
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In fact, the big elite, the top of the pyramid,
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is who in the modern period will displace these other families, right,
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they will come to be the chief mafia. And really
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what we're watching in the Sopranos on a big geopolitical
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scale that I'll get to is that displacement, right, the FBI,
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the CIA, They're mentioned very clearly at the end of
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the of the show in season six. That's the big MafA, you,
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the big geopolitical mafia that is essentially going to squeeze
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out any of these lower less, lesser rival families or mafia's.
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But yes, in the sense of secret societies structures, the
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elite are structured in this way. It's just that these
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families are not going to be at the table in
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the new world order. And that's why we're witnessing with
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Tony the end. That's another reason why spoiler alert, it's
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a tragedy. Tony represents the older way of doing things,
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like even his whole attempt to kind of preserve Little
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Italy or the Italian culture in New Jersey where he's at.
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When he doesn't want to sell certain stores to Jamba
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Juice and the big corporate stuff. He wants to to
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thanks to say the way that they are, but it
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doesn't work. Tony is going to be ousted by bigger mobsters.
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That's the key.
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Well, there is one episode where they go to some
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kind of Starbucks or something to shake down them for
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their neighborhood protection money, protecttection money, and the guy that
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works there is like, I can't do anything. I'm just
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a manager. There's corporate and they're like, what if we
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bust your windows?
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Maybe, yeah, we gotta come by and bust out a
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few windows.
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He's like, all right, corporate will just replace something.
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Yeah, they'll just replace me.
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Maybe we'll let you have a little bit of fists.
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He's like, yeah, they're just gonna fire me and put
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somebody else in here, dude. So, by the way, if
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you watched Fargo season two, that is the exact same
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thing in Fargo season two because the black mobster guy, right,
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if you remember, he goes and threatens that corporation that
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comes in and the corporation just laughs at him. He's like,
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he's like, maybe I got to come in here and
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bust a few computers up, and they're like, corporate head
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office will just send us three new computers the next day.
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It's like it's not gonna do anything.
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So, yeah, who's the bigger gangster? Right?
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Yes, So this is those families getting displaced eventually by
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the big mafia, and the final season will kind of
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make reference to who that big mafia is, and it's
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not who you think, right, It's essentially like CIA type people.
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That's the big mafia that's going to come into the
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picture here. And I got a chakra for you. Guess
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who and why that big mafia displaces this mafia. Well,
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because there used to be an alliance between these two mafias.
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Did you know that? This is the famous book, famous story,
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And in fact, it will be referenced in season six.
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The FBI agent will talk to Tony about Tony's families, right,
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the families connected to Tony that actually helped the Allies
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and protected Lucky Luciano and different characters during World War
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Two as a result of alliances between the CIA and
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the Sicilian mafia. This is well known. Have been many
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many times in history where the mafia and the CIA
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have linked up, and the problem is that the loyalties
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of the CIA are not the same as the loyalties
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of the families, and so eventually the CIA mafia will
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screw you over. So that's the meaning of the show
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basically towards the end on the geopolitical level, but we're
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gonna hold that off until we get to the end.
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Let's talk about some of the references in season one
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that I didn't expect. If you remember, there are interactions
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between Tony's family and the Jewish mafia, and so there
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is a hotel that they're kind of squabbling over, and
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the Jewish mobster refers to Tony as a gollumn, which
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I thought was a wild sort of cabalistic reference because
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they're sort of ortho. They look like Hasidic. I guess
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they're Hasidic Jews that are connected to the Jewish mafia.
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They had a with Tony, it didn't go right, and
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this is how we see Tony gaining that hotel at
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the beginning. So this on the mafia level, what Tony
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is doing throughout the first few seasons is basically acquiring
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more businesses through mafia tactics. So he gains that hotel,
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he burns down Artie's restaurant and then helps Artie basically
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rebuild it and ends up eventually with a stake in
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Artie's restaurant. If you remember Robert Patrick the T one
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thousand or two thousand, whatever it is, I remember dogget
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Agent dogg It from X Well. Doggett is a gambling addict,
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and so Tony notices profiles. This gets him in on
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this big gambling game. Lets him in, but he warns,
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hmmy son, I told.
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You you're not ready for this. This is above you.
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You're not ready for this game yet. This is a
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big game here.
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And oh, Tony, let me in.
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I want to play with the big guys.
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I want to. I want to. And it's because he's
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got who's the famous singer his son as they're playing
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cards with him. Yeah, Frank Sinatra Jr. Is literally in
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the show playing cards with Tony and agent dogg At
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Robert Patrick Great from x Fells, who's just this normy
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boomer dad. He's like, you know, let me let me
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in there, Tony, I want to. I gotta play poker
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with the Frank Sinadra Junior. That sounds awesome, and then
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he ends up losing everything because he's a gambling addict.
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So what I'm saying is that Tony is a master profiler,
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so he knows people's weaknesses and he knows how to
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get what he wants through people's weaknesses. This is again
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possibly why you could have the CIA and the mobsters
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linking up, because they have common types of interest. They
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know how to profile people, they know how to find weaknesses.
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So he knows Dogget or Robert Patrick, the character has
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this weakness and he gets them basically to forfeit the
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entire business that he owns. He owns this giant sporting
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goods store and then Tony just comes in and takes
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it over. You want me this now? This is my story?
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Now?
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Well, that's one of the themes in the show is
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that can he be health through therapy or is he
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just a sociopath who is learning tricks to manipulate people better.
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Yes, this is a key point that I didn't expect
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and that's not revealed until the end, which is that, yes,
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we're not sure what the therapy is going to do
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with Tony, and basically it just it falls apart, right,
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It's just a way for him to, like you said,
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better become a profiler. Yes, so he learns tactics.
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He's learning more about human psychology, not because he wants
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to be a better person, but because he wants to
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be better at manipulating yes, well and acting like he
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has feelings.
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And the way to understand this, and the way that
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you know this is the case is when you notice
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in the later seasons all the references to Tony like
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a general Tony sees himself as a soldier. He makes
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the reference many times.
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He says, you know with soldiers, with soldiers, Okay, this
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is a war with soldiers. People for that flat family.
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He sees himself as a soldier. He's constantly watching war documentaries.
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He's watching war shows on the History Channel. He's studying generals.
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If you notice he's watching Ramel right, how Rama. Tony
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references son Zoo. And then when Pauli and other people.
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Said, it's like, that is son Tazoo. Don't you read
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son to Zoo, And he's like, it's sun Zoo, you idiot,
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when Christopher and Pauli have their rivalry. But but yeah,
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that's because Tony sees himself as a general. And in fact,
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I'm gonna make the argument perhaps that this is a
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literary reference to the notion of transmigration of souls or
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being reborn literally reincarnation, because any of the great literary
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works that we typically think of from the Greeks, especially
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somebody like James Joyce and Ulysses, it has the theme
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of reincarnation, and most of the time pagan literature does that.
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It falls back on that. So there are I think
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these kind of subtle references too. Is Tony a reincarnated
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general And in fact, somebody in the chat made a
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good point that when Tony's beating up the Jewish mobster,
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he's wearing a Roman sandals. He looks like a Roman.
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Well remember when he throws away that horse painting and
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Polly has it repainting a general as.
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An American general, and when you probably didn't see the sequence,
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but there's a sequence when he goes to Italy and
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he meets with that woman who's the de facto dawn
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of the family because the dad's old, the hot chick.
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He has a dream where he's sleeping with her and
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he's dressed up as a Roman soldier a general. Okay,
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so there's a lot of references to Tony as a warrior,
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as a general, and even he brings it up.
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Let's talk about the nihilism for a second, because that
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or do.
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You want to well, yeah, I do have that on here.
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But so what I did was I went, I went
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season by season. So there's gonna be can we hold
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off on that and let's go to.
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What also thought would be fun is we could go
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character by a character.
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And do a character study. It would be, but they'll
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problemse that I did my notes like from season one up. Okay,
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so what I began to notice in season one was
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the manipulative tactics of the mother. I mean, Tony's problems
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do stem from his parents. I mean that is clear.
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So there are gonna be psychoanalytical points in the show
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that are true. His mother is a super master narcissist manipulator.
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Yeah. So at the very beginning, the therapist diagnoses the
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mother through the stories of Tony that she is borderline
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narciss's personality. Fun fact about her.
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You know my mother, she would she never loved me.
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She was a really good villain. She was one of
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those characters that you love to hate. But the actress
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actually had cancer throughout the whole time she was filming,
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and she died before her character died, and they had
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to use old footage and CGI to make up the
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last scenes of her.
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I didn't know that. But yes, she actually enjoys torturing
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and manipulating Tony. This is why Tony is who he
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is in part. Now. Obviously the dad played a role too,
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but his dad was a flanderer. His his dad was gone,
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his dad was out partying and doing mob stuff. So
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the mom was kind of stuck home alone raising the kids,
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and you know herself was this sort of just arch
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manipulator and was just really cruel. The cruelty of the
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mom is kind of overwhelming and shocking because she plays
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up this character of the innocent little granny so well.
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She's she's always is appealing to her victim status. Yeah
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you put me in that home, you live up there,
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right and you got palace, you in this home. You
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don't want me?
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Oh yeah, yeah, that's the classic like old lady narcissist,
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like you don't love me, you.
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Don't love me. Yeah, you put me in this home
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to doyle alone.
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And then her daughter, his sister kind of inherits that
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victim mentality.
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Yes, Janie is just as just as manipulative, but not
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very good at it. She's terrible. She's not very smart.
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So Janice Tony got all the smarts. In fact, I
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think their reference one or two times that Tony is
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believed to have or may have a genius level i Q,
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so we know Tony's super super smart. Janis got nothing.
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She got no looks, she got no intelligence. She's just
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a dumb, fat bitch. Basically, she does have.
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That Rolling Stones tattoo.
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She does have a large Yeah Stowe's tattoo on her
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pancake flappy giant breast. Right, I can't say there's just
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three characters that are gonna irritate you so bad. It's
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the Mom, Janice for me, the psychiatrist, I couldn't stand her, uh,
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and Richie. Ritchie will be the the the worst annoyance
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of villains for the first couple of seasons and he
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will end up marrying Janie ironically. All Right, so we
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find out that the Mom is the chief archetype for
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manipulating and traumatizing Tony. We're even told that Tony is
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traumatized yea.
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Even to the point where she tries to put.
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A hit on Yes, she wants to kill.
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Tony and tries to get the uncle.
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And Junior Junior gets in on it. And that's because
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they're They don't like the They resent the fact that
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Tony is intelligent, Tony can run things. Junior is envious
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and van glorious. He wants to be the mob boss,
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but he's kind of incompetent. He's he's in a way,
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he's smart and wise, but he's not good at running things.
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Tony is good at running things, and that's why he
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fulfills the role perfectly. But Junior resents him for this
528
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his older uncle because he's able to run things, and
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so they just kind of let Tony's really smart about this.
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He lets Junior be the figurehead who can take the
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fall when they get arrested, right, and Junior goes to
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jail and Tony's fine, and then Junior fin finally figures
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out that this is what Tony let him do, which
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was kind of genius. Actually, I was.
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Listening to psychologists talk about the characters and they said, actually,
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Junior exhibits more narcissistic traits than Tony because he cares
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more what people think about him, and he'll actually kill
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people just so he doesn't have to look bad.
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That's a good point. Yeah, remember, if you want to
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support us, we've got to suit a couple of super chats.
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We got three hundred and sixty nerds in the chat
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tonight Welcome. We knew this was gonna be a good show,
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so maybe we can get up to about four hundred
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pretty soon here, But hopefully you're enjoying this. There's references
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to the mom castrating him. I thought this was interesting
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that the psychiatrist tells Tony that your mom was a
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master manipulator. She has helped train you to be who
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you are. She has emasculated and castrated you. So she
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kind of interprets a lot of Tony's delusions and hallucinations
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in relationship to the trauma that the mom inflicted on him.
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And I think a lot of that's true. It's just
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that as we're going to see as the series progresses,
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this goofy psychiatrist woman's solution, they don't work, and the pills,
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the lithium, the prozac, which is all referenced in season one.
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00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:53.000
This is when prozac was brand new, right, so they're
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referencing Tony's on prozac. They don't do anything.
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This is also the beginning of big pharma.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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Yeah, so you've got Prozac, lithium, viagra, new drugs coming
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out and they are all being experimented on, right.
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Yeah.
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And there's an interesting scene where the psychiatrist says, I
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think I've done everything I can with you in talk therapy,
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and we need to implement this new phase of your
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healing or whatever, and he's just not into it because
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he just likes just talking to her. He thinks that
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this is going to change him without him having to
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do any of the work.
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Yeah, we begin to see in season one the mom
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is actually the real villain. In season one, the other
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mobsters are mad that they hear about Tony going to
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the shrink. They laugh about it. The mom says, isn't
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that a Jewish thing? She says, that's a Jewish racket, all.
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That treatment that one of the characters tries to go through,
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the other characters make fun of him for it. Remember
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when Christopher tries to get sober, mock him continually for it,
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and anybody who wants to.
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Well, this is a theme in the show right when
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it's a question of who are you? I mean, are
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you born to what you are? Are you? Are you
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born to fate? Is Tony destined to be Tony? Can
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they change? And this will come up when Carmela, Tony's wife,
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goes to see a Jewish psychiatrist at one point, and
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then she goes and talks to multiple priests, so she
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tries to unload and kind of get advice for how
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to handle these problems. And she's trying to figure out
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can someone like Tony change? That will be one of
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the major themes in the show. As you said, we'll
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be waiting throughout all six seasons and we're wondering, Okay,
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is this gonna be Tony's downfall? Is this person gonna
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be Tony's downfall? Tony finally gonna get what's coming to him?
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Or is he still gonna somehow miraculously skate around all
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of this and get away with it? Uh? And is
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he actually gonna start changing? And they do a good
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job with In a few instances, Tony does do the
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right thing. He does start changing. He doesn't sleep with
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the real estate agent, right, he holds off, he doesn't
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cheat in these instances. There's cases where he helps people out.
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So that's showing that that that humanizes him. He's not
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an all bad guy. He actually has human qualities.
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After his near death experience. Right.
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Yes, So the early Tony is no mercy, no bone,
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no jokes, no bone. I mean he makes jokes, but
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I'm saying, like, you don't joke with Tony, you don't
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play with Tony. If you cross Tony, you're dead. So
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he sort of enforces a rule of fear right. It's
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a Machiavelli kind of the Prince thing, where it's better
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to be feared than loved. So Tony runs on that
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psychology for the first several seasons, and as you pointed out,
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when he almost when he has his near death experience,
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when he dies, for several episodes he's in the hospital,
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on the bed, in the er. He comes back and
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he's different. So he has had a change, But is
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he really changed? And that's what we're gonna see towards
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the end. I think it's somewhat debatable to a degree,
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because he does kind of more and more have a
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better appreciation of people and his family.
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You know, he says things, every day's a gift. Now
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come out of the hospital. I realize, I look at world.
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Every day's a gift. Tennis, every day is a gift.
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And so he knows he's still going, I think, eventually
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to his end. And and that becomes really clear, as
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we'll see in season six. So we're almost up to
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we got three seventy three. Welcome everybody. So Catholicism is
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interesting in season one, it's very much a cultural Catholicism.
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Nobody in the series except for the old people. This
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is interesting. Polly's mom and aunt take their Catholicism seriously. Briefly,
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Janie has a phase of evangelicalism where she's serious right
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with that goofy guy who has narcolepsy, and they have
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an evangelical praise band, remember that. And he falls asleep
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all the time, and.
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Tony Tony's always loving it's good, bring your friendo if
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you could wake him up.
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And then he throws peanuts at the guy when he
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falls asleep at the Turkey dinner. Anyway, So all of
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that to say that the way religion is presented in
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season one and pretty consistently to the rest of the
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show is that it's just a cultural phenomena. There's not
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really anyone, even the priest. This is the really interesting
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fact in season one was that weird priest that you
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think might be gay and then you think, no, actually
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he's hitting on Carmela. He's not even actually hitting on Carmela.
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He's a weirdo who just wants food and recipes.
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He just wants from women, but he doesn't actually want
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to cross the boundary to do anything with them.
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Yeah, so he basically stays the night with Carmela flirts
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with her all night, They cook dinner, they drink wine, communion,
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private communion. Yeah, and he leaves or he falls asleep, right,
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he doesn't want to he's snoring or something.
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Then there's this funny scene where Carmela tries to bring
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the priest a dish of food.
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That guy's that priest, yeah.
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I know, and another woman has already brought him food
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that day, so she gets all jealous. Remember, so even
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their their religion is a facade.
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It's just something that you do, you know, it's just
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another and and Tony kind of sees through that hypocrisy.
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I mean, he's not above asking existential questions. He asked
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them pretty consistently throughout the series, but he never he
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never sees the institutional Catholic church as being anything other
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than kind of a ritual or a play. Like he
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kind of makes some jokes about.
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It, like, oh, come on, either way, I know this
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is a bunch of bullshit, and he says stuff like
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that kind of in passing.
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It's just another family obligation thing like going to a
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funeral or a wedding.
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Next up is oh and the other thing with two
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That was interesting about the priests was that he's very
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much a novus ordo Vatican two priests because when he
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gives communion that ninety stays over, he actually brings Carmela
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a book on Buddhism. Oh yeah, he tells her that
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she needs to start reading on Buddhism to find spiritual
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So just totally, I mean, this was accurate, right, the
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whole idea of the liberalized clerics of the post Vatican
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two novus Ordo church.
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Do you remember that episode with the Golden Hat Saint
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and the fair, So there's another example of the mom
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working together with the church.
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Yeah, this is obliquely referenced, there's no I mean, if
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you watch Godfather three, there's actually a really clear reference
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to the connection between the Vatican, the mafia and the
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Cia and all these kinds of P two lodge and
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all that comes up really clearly because that was actually
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based on the P two stuff with John Paula first
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and his assassination. Here it's not as clear. It's a
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little it's more, you know, just again kind of cultural stuff.
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And then that scene is actually really funny because that
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will play into the fact that there's one character in
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the show that will survive all of this, and he's
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really the only one that we think might actually convert.
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And it's not he you expect, it's Polly because Polly
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is superstitious. They make fun of him for being superstitious
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throughout the show. He walks in the bottom being and
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he sees the Virgin Mary. Remember, at the end of
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the very last episode he says this, and we get
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the impression that it's really just Paulie who has repented
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at the end when he goes and apologizes to his
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mom or to his surrogate mother, I should say, and
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he was the he was the one that was really
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upset about the saint and the hat, that stupid hat
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because he thought, you know, I mean, he's he's he's dumb,
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and he's superstitious, but he's serious and sincere, which is interesting.
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Yeah, things have meaning to Paulage.
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Yeah, you don't just do that, Tea. I swear on
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my life, tee, you don't just do that.
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That's why he gets so messed up when he finds
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out his mom was actually his aunt and his aunt
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with his mom.
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My old life, it's been a life.
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Yeah, I sweit, tea, my whole life, it's all a lie.
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And that's again I like the fact that spoiler alert,
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nobody may through this. Not nobody, but basically of the
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main character spoiler alert, Pauli is who you know. It's
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kind of like he's the one that that goes on
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00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:13.199
to We don't know what he's gonna do, but presumably
717
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:15.599
he's probably gonna go to Florida where they were earlier
718
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:16.559
and just kind of retire.
719
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:18.800
I couldn't believe he was the one that made it
720
00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:20.800
out alive of all of them.
721
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:23.360
I like that, in fact, that it wasn't who you thought.
722
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:27.599
You think you And again, spoiler you think Adriana and
723
00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:30.360
Christopher are gonna get out, You keep thinking, Okay, they're
724
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:33.599
finally gonna you know, he's gonna listen to her. You know,
725
00:43:33.679 --> 00:43:37.360
they're gonna be flipped by the FBI, they're gonna get
726
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:41.480
witness relocation. You keep thinking this, you keep thinking it,
727
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:46.519
and no, right, uh, but we'll get to We'll get
728
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:58.760
to Christopher. Tony, Tony, Tony, you do a good Adriana, Tony, No,
729
00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:04.400
I was doing to do, Adriana, what's the flaw? What's faw? Yeah, Adrian,
730
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:09.920
I told you to the Buddhism book let's see we
731
00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:13.800
get down to there was another interesting element. I think
732
00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:16.440
this is by about season two, maybe still in season one,
733
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:22.679
where they start introducing these uh other con men. Okay,
734
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:25.719
because remember there's an element to Christopher and Tony that's
735
00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:28.199
the conman element, right, So then they bring in these
736
00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:31.199
other characters that they interact with, like the Black Preacher
737
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:34.960
and this Black Preacher. If you notice the young one,
738
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:40.679
he's a kind of Al Sharpton Jesse Jackson kind of guy.
739
00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:44.639
And his dad, who was another Black Preacher, was a
740
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:47.679
serious guy. He was serious about his spirituality. But the
741
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:51.320
younger guy, who's the you know, the preacher leading the
742
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:55.960
black guys to strike at the construction site, he's totally fake.
743
00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:58.320
He's like, hey man, I'm just gonna put of money, right,
744
00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:00.800
So he's ready to make deals with Tony, and Tony
745
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:03.079
he's like, yeah, he's like that kind of a black
746
00:45:03.119 --> 00:45:05.960
TV Preacher guy. But but it's all about race and
747
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:09.960
it's all about you know, he's an opportunist. That's the
748
00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:13.440
word I'm looking for. And Tony figures that out. He's like, okay,
749
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:15.440
so his dad's serious. I don't want to talk to
750
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:18.639
the dad. He's you know, another version of con man.
751
00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:21.199
He's just an opportunist, and if he's that way, I
752
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:24.360
can buy him off, right, So Tony can profile people
753
00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:28.639
to tell when they're sincere, when they're frauds, and he
754
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:31.159
knows that if they're frauds, is pretty easy to either
755
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:33.599
buy them off or to muscle them into doing what
756
00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:36.039
you want. So he really But I like the fact
757
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:39.079
that they introduce this kind of you know, opportunist, fake
758
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:43.559
preacher guy, and he's tied into the Union and he's
759
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:46.400
trying to use the union. And this is funny because
760
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:48.719
the mobsters have used the union for a long time,
761
00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:51.280
so it's like, you're you're on the wrong territory, hero,
762
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:53.199
The mob is going to know how to utilize the
763
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:56.079
union way better than you trying to use the union.
764
00:45:56.119 --> 00:45:59.880
And of course Tony outwits this guy and ends up
765
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:04.360
oiling this movement. And there's a very similar character to
766
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:08.960
the opportunist black preacher who is the Native American spokesman
767
00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:11.960
who's also a kind of a We get the impression
768
00:46:11.960 --> 00:46:13.800
that he's kind of a con man, that he's just
769
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:20.280
leading this cultural movement against Columbus day. Right, this becomes
770
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:24.960
a big ordeal for the social justice themes. Yes, social
771
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:29.119
justice themes start coming up about season two and they
772
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:31.800
want to two or three. They want to get rid
773
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:34.239
of Columbus Day, and because it's offensive to all the
774
00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:40.679
Native Americans, and this leads to a kind of a
775
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:45.239
retaliation on the part of syl Silvio and Pauli. They're
776
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:47.400
furious about this. They go and like beat up the
777
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:49.840
Native Americans. There's a big there's a big street fight
778
00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:55.559
between the social justice Warriors and the Italians. They've all
779
00:46:55.599 --> 00:46:58.760
got got flags, like Italian flags out there, and they
780
00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:00.719
want to have Columbus Day and all this stuff, and
781
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:04.840
so there's this big street brawl. And I liked all
782
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:07.400
these elements because it was showing you that a lot
783
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:08.840
of this stuff is manipulated.
784
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:12.559
Do you remember when Meadow went to college she came
785
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:14.159
back social justice warrior.
786
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:17.000
Yes, this is another great point because it shows that
787
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:20.400
when Meadow goes to college, you know, she's just kind
788
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:23.360
of a teenager, you know, I mean, she's intelligent, and
789
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:26.880
she she early on figures out that her dad is
790
00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:29.039
up to something. Like her dad is not on the
791
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:32.679
up and up. He's not really what he presents himself as,
792
00:47:32.760 --> 00:47:33.760
just a.
793
00:47:33.400 --> 00:47:36.639
Harm of just a harmless waste management, businessman. I'm just
794
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:38.559
a businessman, right, No, he's more than that.
795
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:41.000
And she figures this out by the time she's in
796
00:47:41.079 --> 00:47:44.039
high school, and so we get the impression that Metal
797
00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:49.960
is pretty intelligent. She also will be spared interestingly, and
798
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:56.079
then when she goes to college, she is brainwashed, initiated
799
00:47:56.119 --> 00:48:01.039
into the social justice system. She said, it takes her
800
00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:02.760
while to figure out what her career is. She decides,
801
00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:04.559
I want to be a lawyer so I can defend
802
00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:09.480
the immigrants. So they actually show her as adopting these
803
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:15.679
positions because that's her way to rebel against Tony. And
804
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:19.239
she even says this at times when her bike gets stolen, right,
805
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:22.079
and Tony said, oh, yeah, who was the guy who
806
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:22.599
stole the bike?
807
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:22.960
Huh?
808
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:25.840
What was he? Oh? Who was he? Right? So if
809
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:27.599
you know that scene, then you know what happens. I
810
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:31.400
won't say it because of you know, getting pulled or whatever,
811
00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:34.960
but it's a funny sequence. And the only reason that
812
00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:38.960
Meadow is doing these things is to try to rebel
813
00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:42.000
against Tony's old ways and his you know kind of
814
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:46.280
what she thinks are outdated ways of understanding things, because
815
00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:50.400
Tony's in a sense, you could say conservative, even though
816
00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:55.000
he doesn't really care about ideologies. It's purely pragmatic, right.
817
00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:58.960
He knows from the streets that people are different, you know,
818
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:00.880
He's like, and then when I'm on the street, this
819
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:04.000
guy's different. He drives around, he sees a mosque.
820
00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:06.920
These are these guys are different, you know, they're different.
821
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:10.960
That was the part in the story after the Big
822
00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:17.280
nine event happened, they wrote that in that Tony is
823
00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:20.360
now informing to the FBI.
824
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:25.519
The FBI guys, they asked Tony. Yeah, that's a great point.
825
00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:28.519
They don't make him an official informant, but they ask him,
826
00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:30.760
you know, I'll scratch your back, you scratch mine if
827
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:33.960
you can, you know, provide us some information on any
828
00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:36.079
of these Arab guys that might be hanging around the
829
00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:39.559
bottom being. And he does. He does so, not exactly
830
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:42.199
an informant, but a kind of a just a on
831
00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:47.239
the down low passing information back and forth, which Tony
832
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:51.159
just sees as advantageous to himself for getting out of,
833
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:57.559
you know, sticky situations. So so moving on, I like
834
00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:00.920
the sequence when he goes to Italy to meet up
835
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:04.840
with one of the dons in Sicily and as we
836
00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:07.480
as I said, we find out that it's it's the
837
00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:11.519
Dawn is actually has dementia. He's out of ideas and
838
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:13.639
know what's going on. And his daughter is running things
839
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:16.360
and she's, you know, the bomb supermodel. So Tony is
840
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:19.679
immediately sort of smitten by her, has the dream where
841
00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:24.239
he's a Roman general sleeping with her. And then the
842
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:26.880
most important sequence in all this is that they go
843
00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:31.000
up on this mountain to the Sibiling Oracle. Right, So
844
00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:33.440
they go in this cave where the Sibiling Oracle used
845
00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:36.920
to sit, and she the oracle would would breathe in
846
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:41.719
the hallucinogen hallucinogenic gases or whatever and would prophesy. And
847
00:50:41.760 --> 00:50:43.679
if you don't know, you know, the Sibiling Oracle is
848
00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:48.599
famous for also having prophetic statements about Christ. Right, this
849
00:50:48.760 --> 00:50:51.519
is a well known thing. If you look up virgils
850
00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:54.800
and ecologue, if you look up the civil there were
851
00:50:54.840 --> 00:50:59.000
these pagan predictions. Also they're related to Christ. I think
852
00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:01.239
that the Sibiling Oracle was even painted I think into
853
00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:05.920
the Assistine Chapel. But the the but the the woman,
854
00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:11.239
the woman Dawn tells Tony, she says, you're you are
855
00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:15.800
your own worst enemy. So she does this Sibiling prophecy
856
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:19.800
at the Sibiling Oracle about Tony, and they even referenced this.
857
00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:23.360
And then when Tony goes back to a psychiatrist.
858
00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:25.079
He said, hey, you have voted this to the Sibols.
859
00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:28.159
The Sibols. She's like the Sibils.
860
00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:32.039
Hey, you know the Sybils did the prophecies. You know
861
00:51:32.039 --> 00:51:34.320
they would they would sit and breathe in his head.
862
00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:36.480
It would, you know, make them prophecy or whatever.
863
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:40.880
Right, And so he basically has been told his fortune
864
00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:43.039
from the Sibyl. I thought that was genius, the way
865
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:44.519
they did that, the way they pulled it off. And
866
00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:47.719
if you're not familiar with classical lit, one of the
867
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:50.360
things I studied in grad school, you wouldn't catch those
868
00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:55.880
references to the Sibyl. What do you think? Do you
869
00:51:55.880 --> 00:51:57.599
remember when we were watching it and I told you
870
00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:01.039
that when he went to see the Sibyl, she's functioning
871
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:04.440
like the Sibyl. She's telling him his future. Yeah, And
872
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:06.920
she said you're your own worst enemy, and I said,
873
00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:08.960
he will be his downfall. It's a tragic.
874
00:52:09.360 --> 00:52:13.440
It's a tragedy, yeah, because Tony's navigating such a minefield
875
00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:18.840
with his job and his family, and everything that you're
876
00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:22.400
constantly wondering who is going to betray him or get
877
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:25.360
him in trouble or like we're always guessing, is it
878
00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:27.320
so and so going to be the downfall of Tony
879
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:29.159
but himself?
880
00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:33.199
And it's also not what we expect. What ends up
881
00:52:33.199 --> 00:52:35.280
being his downfall is not who we think it is.
882
00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:38.639
It's a it's kind of a random forgotten dude, you
883
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:41.239
know that he's screwed over. Is basically who ends up
884
00:52:41.719 --> 00:52:45.480
being the cause of his downfall. It's not one of
885
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:47.440
the sort of key players that you that you think
886
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:49.480
it's going to be. It's not the FBI, it's not
887
00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:52.920
the CIA, it's not any of these big agencies or forces.
888
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:55.320
It's not the family. Even it's not even his family
889
00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:56.280
that's his downfall.
890
00:52:57.719 --> 00:53:03.800
So I like the episode where they're having to deal
891
00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:07.599
with the rappers, who.
892
00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:12.039
Well, before we get to that, there was a there's
893
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:14.360
a really fascinating sequence. We should probably go back and
894
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:17.119
watch it now that we've seen the end, But there's
895
00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:20.599
the sequence of the Wizard of Oz. This could have
896
00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:23.159
an m K ultra mind control aspect to it because
897
00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:30.280
it has to do with Tony having a car wreck. Uh,
898
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:33.440
and it's when it's when Tony was having his blackouts,
899
00:53:33.960 --> 00:53:36.480
and there's a there's a you may have missed this
900
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:42.199
this episode, but the psychiatrist is talking about the psyche.
901
00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:45.119
She hears the Wizard of Oz song, and we see
902
00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:47.519
this vision. I think it's her vision if I recall,
903
00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:51.079
and she sees Tony dead. She sees him in a
904
00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:53.639
car wreck dead. Now, Tony doesn't die in a car wreck,
905
00:53:53.719 --> 00:53:57.920
but it's another instance of the foreshadowing that's gonna tell
906
00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:02.119
us what happens. And if you haven't seen the end,
907
00:54:02.599 --> 00:54:05.440
then you don't know the signific You're not gonna know
908
00:54:05.559 --> 00:54:07.800
until the very end, what the significance of it. Throughout
909
00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:11.639
the whole series, Tony's son is just an idiot. And
910
00:54:11.679 --> 00:54:14.920
this this one sequence where even the idiot can have
911
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:18.159
this kind of sage, sagacious moment where he says, you
912
00:54:18.159 --> 00:54:22.519
guys are all living in a dream. This is not real, right,
913
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:27.239
And so again hearkening back to the psychiatrist's dream of
914
00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:29.920
Tony and the Wizard of Oz playing and Tony wrecking.
915
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:35.559
Go ahead, I don't remember that one.
916
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:45.320
So let's see that's not really relevant. Let's go down here. Okay, okay,
917
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:49.679
So one interesting reference that the psychiatrist will make early
918
00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:54.079
on is to Carlos Costanada. She will talk about reading
919
00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:57.880
Carlos Castenada, and we don't really know the beginning why
920
00:54:57.880 --> 00:55:00.119
that would matter. It could have reference to you of
921
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:03.440
the c I A mk Ultra stuff, which is loosely
922
00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:05.840
there with the big pharmoh, the Wizard of Oz theme,
923
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:12.880
Tony being traumatized, Tony blacking out at times, but she
924
00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:15.840
will talk about, hey, you should you know read cost
925
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:18.840
Costanata blah blah blah. She mentions it in passing. But
926
00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:22.519
this is foreshadowing for the end of the show where
927
00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:26.119
Tony goes and trips trips out. So he actually has
928
00:55:26.119 --> 00:55:28.880
this Carlos Constanata moment where he goes and does what
929
00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:33.599
does he do psilocybin or something, pot goes and does
930
00:55:33.639 --> 00:55:37.760
peyote in Las Vegas. So that was another foreshadowing that
931
00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:40.639
you don't you're not, you don't know why it's relevant
932
00:55:40.719 --> 00:55:42.639
until you get to the end of the to the
933
00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:45.599
last season. Basically the last season really shows everything. So
934
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:48.199
what's up? We got four hundred nerds tonight? If you
935
00:55:48.239 --> 00:55:51.960
would be sure and smashed like the gobble gool, what's goul?
936
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:52.199
Uh?
937
00:55:53.679 --> 00:55:55.960
You read all of this from one instance of Goba
938
00:55:56.000 --> 00:55:56.679
Gool when I was a.
939
00:55:56.679 --> 00:55:58.679
Kid, right, this is what he tells the psychiatrist.
940
00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:02.719
But she's like, you have a problem with sexuality, and
941
00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:08.719
Ron meet. Uh you read all this from the gobbagool. Yeah,
942
00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:13.760
because uh when it won the interest snack, you read
943
00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:14.360
all of this.
944
00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:17.800
This is crazy well because the gobbool has to do
945
00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:20.119
it the first time he ever saw dad kill somebody.
946
00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:24.639
Yes, and uh, sexuality because he says that the weird
947
00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:27.239
mom would be turned on when the dad would bring
948
00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:29.719
home the gobba ghoul because the mom knew that he
949
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:31.880
had killed somebody or had done so.
950
00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:35.320
The gobagool for free because they were leaning on the
951
00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:36.320
butcher exactly.
952
00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:37.360
That's right.
953
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:40.480
The mom liked the violence and the danger.
954
00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:44.719
Yeah, exactly. And Tony was young and didn't understand this.
955
00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:47.639
He didn't understand what was going on and it traumatized him.
956
00:56:48.079 --> 00:56:52.639
And that's the first time Tony passes out. Remember remember
957
00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:56.920
his episodes and then AJ has these exact same episodes.
958
00:56:57.039 --> 00:56:57.599
Do your AJ?
959
00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:03.039
What are gutters?
960
00:57:03.960 --> 00:57:07.039
What's a gutter? You know what?
961
00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:08.920
When you you we're gonna clean out your mouth and
962
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:10.719
then that it is, you're gonna go clean the gutters.
963
00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:15.000
What are gutters? Oh, you're gonna get smart with me.
964
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:16.239
Now you're gonna talk about what a gut is. You
965
00:57:16.280 --> 00:57:19.280
gonna get smart with me. No, I really don't.
966
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:22.920
Know what gutters are. He's really that dumbie, actually doesn't
967
00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:23.800
know what gutters are.
968
00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:27.480
The best line of AJ when he said, yeah, that
969
00:57:27.480 --> 00:57:27.760
it is.
970
00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:29.800
You're gonna go do your homework and then you're gonna
971
00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:32.400
study for your dists. Then he then he says something,
972
00:57:33.199 --> 00:57:34.880
I'm gonna I'm gonna make sure that I look at
973
00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:37.960
your grades. You just showed your own ignorance because you
974
00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:39.880
just revealed your own ignorance because we don't even have
975
00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:40.519
grades yet.
976
00:57:42.360 --> 00:57:45.280
It's such a nihilistic thing to say.
977
00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:45.719
It is.
978
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:48.400
Yeah, this is the next thing on my list. Actually
979
00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:51.639
is after the curls costing Alla reference, we start getting
980
00:57:51.719 --> 00:57:55.119
a J asking questions. Right. AJ is this nerdy, chunky
981
00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:58.599
little kid who totally oblivious. He has no clue what's
982
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:02.000
going on. And then ironically, in the midst of being
983
00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:07.480
a total idiot, AJ starts asking like mega, big level
984
00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:12.000
existential questions. And this is peaked because the grandma is dying,
985
00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:16.519
the manipulative psycho grandma, and she gets she tries to
986
00:58:16.559 --> 00:58:17.880
turn everybody on her side.
987
00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:18.079
Right.
988
00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:21.519
This is every sequence with the Grandmother in season one.
989
00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:25.679
She's manipulating somebody to turn them on to be on
990
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:28.960
her side. And she gets Aj in there alone and
991
00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:33.039
she says something about we all die alone, right, And
992
00:58:33.119 --> 00:58:35.639
so AJ's sitting there freaking out with his He's always
993
00:58:35.639 --> 00:58:39.760
doing this, right, So then he starts.
994
00:58:39.480 --> 00:58:42.960
Thinking maybe there's no God all right.
995
00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:46.920
And so he goes to this existential teen crisis. He
996
00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:50.639
starts reading Nietzsche. All that stuff is pretty funny. One
997
00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:52.519
of the kids he talks about existentialism.
998
00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:54.880
Yeah, one of the kids in that show. His dad
999
00:58:54.920 --> 00:58:57.519
gets killed and he turns totally goth with the whole
1000
00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:00.199
black lipstick and everything. You remember that, So.
1001
00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:03.519
This is veto later on Vito, one of the guys
1002
00:59:03.519 --> 00:59:06.920
that works for Tony. Uh Vito, turns out to be gay,
1003
00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:09.440
and then he doesn't want to get found out, so
1004
00:59:09.519 --> 00:59:12.599
he runs off. So he goes off to another city
1005
00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:18.360
in the Hampton's or somewhere. Yeah, and uh Vito's son
1006
00:59:18.679 --> 00:59:21.559
starts going through a crisis like Aj did and turns goth.
1007
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:24.559
So he just turns to this total goth guy. I
1008
00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:26.360
won't say what he says to Tony, but he has
1009
00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:30.880
some really funny lines about actually I could see Tony's.
1010
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:33.599
Like been Toko to your uncle. Oh yeah, is your
1011
00:59:33.679 --> 00:59:38.159
butt buddy? Oh yeah, that's really funny. I like you,
1012
00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:38.880
you got a mount on.
1013
00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:42.760
You, kid. But yeah, So he goes to that same
1014
00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:45.760
crisis that Aj goes through in the early seasons. But
1015
00:59:47.199 --> 00:59:51.400
AJ's crisis of faith leads him to reading Nietzsche, Sartra,
1016
00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:56.000
and Kirkerguard he immediately goes to the existentialists. And that's
1017
00:59:56.559 --> 01:00:00.559
it's not super significant, except that it's tell us that
1018
01:00:00.639 --> 01:00:05.320
the show is going to be asking big existential questions. Right,
1019
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:11.360
So Tony, Carmela, even Pauli, even some of the minor
1020
01:00:11.440 --> 01:00:15.760
characters are all going to be confronting the reality of life,
1021
01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:18.440
death and the afterlife. They're all going to be confronting
1022
01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:22.719
these questions. And that's why the big existentialist philosophers come
1023
01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:26.119
up early in season one and two. But it's funny
1024
01:00:26.119 --> 01:00:29.639
that it's a bit of irony there that it's the
1025
01:00:29.719 --> 01:00:33.320
dumbest guy, the dumbest character in the whole show. I mean,
1026
01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:37.039
you could argue AJ's even dumber than Janis really who
1027
01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:41.039
actually asked the big question. It's not the smartest except
1028
01:00:41.039 --> 01:00:42.400
Tony does. Tony asks Big.
1029
01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:44.800
He's the one that sees through all the bull crap,
1030
01:00:44.920 --> 01:00:45.760
like you guys are.
1031
01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:49.360
Just well he and Meadow due. Meadow and he both do.
1032
01:00:49.559 --> 01:00:52.880
But all right, let's well, we hit four hundred, we
1033
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:56.599
got four oh three. Welcome here, be sure, yes, hitch
1034
01:00:57.320 --> 01:00:57.960
like and share.
1035
01:00:58.639 --> 01:01:00.159
Listen. If you don't hit the liking the sh I'm
1036
01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:01.960
gonna take you up back. I'm gonna make sure that
1037
01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:07.039
you get the lake in the shell. Okay, all right,
1038
01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:08.159
so we're done with this.
1039
01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:17.119
Hell is three o'clock in the Near Death Experience vision.
1040
01:01:17.159 --> 01:01:20.920
So there's a near death experienced vision early on, a
1041
01:01:21.039 --> 01:01:23.840
Hell vision. I don't know what my note's about, but
1042
01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:27.440
something to do with Tony starts describing a dream or
1043
01:01:27.480 --> 01:01:33.679
a vision, and he talks about how the psychiatrist woman
1044
01:01:33.679 --> 01:01:35.480
asks him, like, what do you think your dream means?
1045
01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:35.920
I don't know.
1046
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:38.199
I'm not going to hell. It's for the worst people.
1047
01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:41.679
And that's what the rapers and the murder vision, you know,
1048
01:01:41.679 --> 01:01:43.599
all the people that do all the really nasty shit.
1049
01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:44.800
I'm not going to hell.
1050
01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:47.639
Come on, that's interesting that Tony doesn't see himself in
1051
01:01:47.679 --> 01:01:48.519
the category of a.
1052
01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:55.039
Bad person, exactly exactly. I also liked the element where
1053
01:01:55.079 --> 01:01:58.159
Tony gets neighbors, and the neighbors that he gets are
1054
01:01:58.199 --> 01:02:03.960
these really annoying, snooty wasp elite. And then that's one
1055
01:02:03.960 --> 01:02:05.960
of the actually the funniest sequences in the whole show
1056
01:02:06.079 --> 01:02:09.199
is when the wasp elite who are into stocks, and
1057
01:02:09.239 --> 01:02:11.800
this is how Tony and Carmela start getting into stocks.
1058
01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:15.679
They take Tony out to play golf. I remember that
1059
01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:21.039
They're like, so, uh uh, maybe you know some stories
1060
01:02:21.079 --> 01:02:23.360
about John Gottie you could.
1061
01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:25.800
Tell us, And Tony's like, what are you talking about?
1062
01:02:26.039 --> 01:02:30.079
Who? What? Yeah? You know, have you heard any stories about,
1063
01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:33.360
you know, any of the famous guys? And then Tony
1064
01:02:33.440 --> 01:02:36.480
realizes that they know that he's in the mafia, and
1065
01:02:36.519 --> 01:02:39.480
they they think that there's all these you know, stereotypes,
1066
01:02:39.519 --> 01:02:43.039
and so Tony tells him this whole ridiculous story with
1067
01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:44.800
a ridiculous ending.
1068
01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:48.480
So the marvel at the story is John Gotti. Really
1069
01:02:48.559 --> 01:02:49.280
let ice.
1070
01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:52.199
Cream just tell us this nonsense story and they're all like,
1071
01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:57.079
oh yeah, and so he's just messing with him, right,
1072
01:02:57.119 --> 01:03:01.559
So I thought that was that was a good comedic
1073
01:03:01.599 --> 01:03:05.159
twist because you think that Tony's gonna take that golf
1074
01:03:05.159 --> 01:03:07.400
club and start beating the crap out of him, and
1075
01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:09.519
he just makes fun of him. It was great. But
1076
01:03:10.519 --> 01:03:15.039
the wasp elite, right, they use the Italian immigrants. And
1077
01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:17.840
this actually comes up, you know, Tony references this about
1078
01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:18.599
how you know.
1079
01:03:18.559 --> 01:03:19.960
We used to we used to work for them, right,
1080
01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:22.000
we would have we would have grunts for them, you know, No,
1081
01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:24.159
we did odds with our stuff.
1082
01:03:24.440 --> 01:03:27.159
Where's a place at the table, right, So it's all
1083
01:03:27.199 --> 01:03:31.000
about wanting a place at the table. The different wealthy
1084
01:03:31.079 --> 01:03:34.840
power structures, right, the JP, Morgan's, the Carnegie, the Rockefellers,
1085
01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:39.599
the wasp elite who used the Italian immigrants as the workforce.
1086
01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:42.559
And this is why Tony and I think it's Tony
1087
01:03:42.599 --> 01:03:45.000
that says this withre's our piece, we want a piece
1088
01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:47.719
of this. I think he's telling it to the psychiatrist.
1089
01:03:48.039 --> 01:03:51.840
He's explaining the Italian immigrant experience, right, He's saying.
1090
01:03:51.800 --> 01:03:54.280
This is this is our people, this is we both
1091
01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:56.679
this place. We built this country right for them.
1092
01:03:57.960 --> 01:04:02.199
And so he doesn't care for that, you know, snooty,
1093
01:04:03.079 --> 01:04:05.960
arrogant Wall Street wasp elite. But they do get the
1094
01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:10.000
idea from the wasp elite to set up this little
1095
01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:13.360
stupid stock scam, and they put Christopher in charge of it,
1096
01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:19.239
which is hilarious because Christopher brings in his two muscle guys,
1097
01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:22.559
who are also complete idiots. Right, they end up getting
1098
01:04:22.639 --> 01:04:24.280
killed the next season because they're so stupid.
1099
01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:28.440
Another point about this show is the criminals aren't that smart.
1100
01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:33.679
Yes, even the guys that Tony has as his conscilier
1101
01:04:33.880 --> 01:04:38.159
or his right hand men, they're not that bright. Even
1102
01:04:38.280 --> 01:04:41.280
the other even the other bosses of the family, right,
1103
01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:47.119
Johnny Sack Junior, he's incompetent. He can't run the family. No, no, no,
1104
01:04:47.159 --> 01:04:51.639
not not Johnny Sack. It's the guy that Johnny sackson
1105
01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:57.760
a rivalry with the other guy, what's his name, somebody Junior,
1106
01:04:57.840 --> 01:05:02.280
the the old guy that dies and then his son
1107
01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:06.559
takes over. He's the guy that makes the movie with Christopher.
1108
01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:09.400
That guy, he's funny. Little Carmine, thank you. Yeah, little
1109
01:05:09.480 --> 01:05:13.840
Carmine is incompetent. Johnny Sack is kind of competent. He
1110
01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:17.760
can run things, but even he can't. Really, he's no
1111
01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:22.079
match for Tony. Nobody is a match for Tony. Even
1112
01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:24.559
though the other families are jealous of Tony and they'll
1113
01:05:24.599 --> 01:05:28.280
diss him. They're afraid of Tony. They don't know how
1114
01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:30.639
to handle him, because you can't. Tony's a force of nature.
1115
01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:36.079
You can't really deal with this guy. He's unstoppable. We
1116
01:05:36.159 --> 01:05:38.239
mentioned Richie and these different characters who are kind of
1117
01:05:38.280 --> 01:05:43.039
the key villains. I mean, Richie is just on you
1118
01:05:43.079 --> 01:05:46.639
can't He's like Jeoffrey, right, Richie the Grandmother. These are
1119
01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:49.920
Jeffrey level characters. You can't wait for them to die.
1120
01:05:50.480 --> 01:05:52.960
But the only reason Richie is really interesting as a
1121
01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:59.000
character is the clue of the jacket. If you remember Richie,
1122
01:05:59.480 --> 01:06:02.119
who am so is totally a psychopath. He kind of
1123
01:06:02.159 --> 01:06:06.039
wants to impress Tony, even though he resents him and
1124
01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:07.880
fears him. At the same time, he's the guy that
1125
01:06:07.960 --> 01:06:11.039
ends up marrying Janice. He thinks, maybe I can win
1126
01:06:11.119 --> 01:06:13.800
Tony over by giving him some kind of symbolic thing
1127
01:06:13.920 --> 01:06:17.079
that in his mind is important, which is a stupid
1128
01:06:17.119 --> 01:06:21.159
seventies jacket. It's this hideous, ugly, you know, nineteen seventy
1129
01:06:21.199 --> 01:06:23.480
five leather jacket. And he gives it to Tony and
1130
01:06:23.960 --> 01:06:26.920
oh what it is? Put it in the trunk, and
1131
01:06:26.960 --> 01:06:30.800
then Tony just gives it away and Richie sees the
1132
01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:33.559
jacket that he gave to Tony, which had this significance
1133
01:06:33.559 --> 01:06:36.480
for him given away, and he's just infuriated. Right, So
1134
01:06:36.559 --> 01:06:39.280
you know in season two or three that there's going
1135
01:06:39.360 --> 01:06:42.840
to be this you know, butting of heads between Tony
1136
01:06:42.840 --> 01:06:45.880
and Richie. But the reason that the jacket is so
1137
01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:49.039
important is that the jacket is going to be the
1138
01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:53.000
key clue the end of the show, telling you what
1139
01:06:53.119 --> 01:06:58.760
really happened, Right, the jacket, not that jacket, just the jacket.
1140
01:06:59.119 --> 01:07:02.239
Just keep Jack, get in mind, it's just telling you
1141
01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:06.599
a clue. That jacket's insignificant, but it's just calling your
1142
01:07:06.639 --> 01:07:10.880
attention to details in the show, like the jacket, that
1143
01:07:10.960 --> 01:07:15.119
are going to be important for deciphering and decoding the
1144
01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:23.079
final episode. Of course, as you know, I like the
1145
01:07:23.119 --> 01:07:26.599
fact that it wasn't Tony they kill Ritchie. All of
1146
01:07:26.599 --> 01:07:30.239
this time, there's Tony and Richie butt heads about five times,
1147
01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:32.599
and you're just waiting for Tony to unleash on this guy,
1148
01:07:33.639 --> 01:07:36.440
and he ends up not doing it, and you think, well, okay,
1149
01:07:36.480 --> 01:07:41.360
now he can't because Richie's married to Janice. And then
1150
01:07:41.679 --> 01:07:48.360
who ends up getting rid of Richie Janie? Yeah, because
1151
01:07:48.440 --> 01:07:52.320
Janie is just as crazy and psycho as Tony. But
1152
01:07:52.480 --> 01:07:55.800
she's she doesn't have any self control, right, and so
1153
01:07:55.880 --> 01:07:57.519
she just does it, loses her mind.
1154
01:07:57.760 --> 01:07:59.079
Tony help me.
1155
01:07:59.639 --> 01:08:02.000
Tony has to come over. He's the fixer. He cleans
1156
01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:04.320
it all up, and he gives her a bus pass
1157
01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:07.000
and says, now you're at here, get lost. I don't
1158
01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:10.960
want to see you again. And because Janice really was
1159
01:08:11.039 --> 01:08:14.719
just she's just a mooch, right's. Her life is a failure.
1160
01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:19.119
She can't find a relationship, she's overweight, she's unpleasant as
1161
01:08:19.159 --> 01:08:22.640
a person. She's really annoying. She tries to be manipulative,
1162
01:08:22.680 --> 01:08:25.199
but everybody can see through it. She's just a terrible
1163
01:08:25.239 --> 01:08:28.199
person and a terrible character. And so Tony just wants
1164
01:08:28.199 --> 01:08:31.000
to get rid of her. And so he thinks, finally
1165
01:08:31.039 --> 01:08:33.720
he's going to get rid of her. Of course she's
1166
01:08:33.760 --> 01:08:37.680
going to come back. But as we end the early
1167
01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:41.239
about getting almost to the middle midway of the show,
1168
01:08:42.439 --> 01:08:46.600
we see the important vision of dream that Tony has,
1169
01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:50.159
and I like that they couch this vision and dream
1170
01:08:50.279 --> 01:08:59.680
in the midst of a really bass, guttural, potty humor
1171
01:09:00.039 --> 01:09:05.800
element when Tony gets diarrhea yea and because yeah, but
1172
01:09:05.840 --> 01:09:08.760
it's but it's on purpose to contrast it with it's
1173
01:09:08.840 --> 01:09:11.199
it's a it's a it's a kind of a contrast.
1174
01:09:11.239 --> 01:09:14.079
It's a literary usage of the grotesque, where you take
1175
01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:17.319
something that would be a profound vision and you couch
1176
01:09:17.399 --> 01:09:21.520
it in something ridiculous, like farting all night with diarrhea
1177
01:09:21.760 --> 01:09:25.880
because you had bad seafood. Okay, So Tony Is goes
1178
01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:28.600
and has aladies. I don't know what, shrimp or something,
1179
01:09:28.600 --> 01:09:30.640
and this the shrimp is bad, and it gives him
1180
01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:35.720
this awful case of food poisoning. And we both had
1181
01:09:35.760 --> 01:09:38.800
food poisoning. We we can sympathize with this. We were
1182
01:09:38.840 --> 01:09:41.239
just remembering what it was like to have food poisoning.
1183
01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:43.560
It's awful if you've never had it. It's if you
1184
01:09:43.560 --> 01:09:46.479
think you're dying. And so in the midst of this
1185
01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:51.079
food poisoning, Tony has these prophetic, really deep visions. He
1186
01:09:51.199 --> 01:09:56.399
sees the future, a potential future in the future, and
1187
01:09:56.439 --> 01:09:58.560
he sees in a way kind of his own demise
1188
01:09:59.680 --> 01:10:02.840
and and he sees. He doesn't know how to interpret
1189
01:10:02.840 --> 01:10:05.640
it yet, but he sees, and he senses deep down
1190
01:10:06.279 --> 01:10:07.880
who the rat is.
1191
01:10:08.199 --> 01:10:09.920
That's when he figures out he's betraying here.
1192
01:10:09.960 --> 01:10:14.479
It's Pussy. So Pussy is the rat. He doesn't immediately
1193
01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:18.239
know how to interpret the dream because he's walking down
1194
01:10:18.520 --> 01:10:22.760
the boardwalk by the by the beach and he sees
1195
01:10:22.800 --> 01:10:24.960
these fish for sale, and the fish starts talking to him,
1196
01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:28.880
and it's Pussy, and what is it? He sleeps with
1197
01:10:28.960 --> 01:10:31.600
the fishes, So he's seeing what is going to happen,
1198
01:10:31.720 --> 01:10:34.840
what he's going to do when he finds out, which
1199
01:10:34.840 --> 01:10:37.359
he kind of deep down knows that is Pussy's the rat.
1200
01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:39.720
Pussy's going to have to go sleep with the fishes.
1201
01:10:40.840 --> 01:10:45.640
I really like that though, that they couched the the profound,
1202
01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:48.479
you know, prophetic visions in the midst of this guttural
1203
01:10:48.640 --> 01:10:53.039
you know, bloating and gas sequence. That's really kind of hilarious.
1204
01:10:54.880 --> 01:11:02.159
So once again, Tony is not just a a general.
1205
01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:05.399
He's almost a kind of a king. And if you know,
1206
01:11:05.520 --> 01:11:09.800
from scripture and from the ancient classical literary tradition, kings
1207
01:11:09.880 --> 01:11:14.199
were oftentimes seen as prophetic characters. The dream that the
1208
01:11:14.319 --> 01:11:18.920
king has Nebugineeser and Daniel right Pharaoh's dreams. Kings were
1209
01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:22.880
believed to have prophetic dreams, and so Tony also has
1210
01:11:22.960 --> 01:11:27.279
this kingly type of role and so he is having
1211
01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:29.800
prophetic dreams, but at the same time he doesn't know
1212
01:11:29.840 --> 01:11:32.239
how to interpret that. It's just so foreign to his
1213
01:11:32.399 --> 01:11:36.479
kind of pragmatic mind. But eventually he's going to start
1214
01:11:36.520 --> 01:11:39.039
figuring out that, you know, a lot of what's been
1215
01:11:39.119 --> 01:11:44.239
happening to him was kind of synchronicity manifesting, archetypal relationships
1216
01:11:44.279 --> 01:11:48.600
manifesting to tell him that he's actually seen the future.
1217
01:11:49.720 --> 01:11:52.279
What do you think, I mean, don't you see that
1218
01:11:52.319 --> 01:11:56.359
there's these esoteric things that keep coming up, these passing references,
1219
01:11:57.000 --> 01:11:59.359
even the literary and there will even be esoteric and
1220
01:11:59.399 --> 01:12:00.880
occult refer and says later on.
1221
01:12:02.560 --> 01:12:05.520
Yeah, and another thing about him being the king is
1222
01:12:05.520 --> 01:12:09.439
he always has to watch his back because somebody's.
1223
01:12:09.119 --> 01:12:13.359
Yes, because of treachery, treachery and take his position. Yeah,
1224
01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:15.880
if you're at the top of the heap, everybody wants
1225
01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:19.640
to take you down. Yeah, you know, Caesar right at
1226
01:12:19.640 --> 01:12:20.479
two brute right.
1227
01:12:22.159 --> 01:12:25.800
And so in that way, he ends up having to
1228
01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:29.159
kill a lot of the people who are loyal to
1229
01:12:29.239 --> 01:12:31.279
him and who he's supposed to be sworn to be
1230
01:12:31.359 --> 01:12:37.159
protecting in this brotherhood. Tony, I think throughout the whole
1231
01:12:37.199 --> 01:12:39.319
of the show he kills more of his loved ones
1232
01:12:39.399 --> 01:12:41.800
than he does of his enemies.
1233
01:12:43.960 --> 01:12:46.279
Yes, well, this is one of the tragedy. This is
1234
01:12:46.319 --> 01:12:48.680
part of the reason why Tony is a tragic character
1235
01:12:48.760 --> 01:12:51.199
is that, I mean, the role of being a king
1236
01:12:52.439 --> 01:12:55.239
or the head of an army, so to speak, is
1237
01:12:55.279 --> 01:12:59.039
that everybody below you, it resents you. They don't trust
1238
01:12:59.079 --> 01:13:01.000
your leadership, They want to take you down, they want
1239
01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:03.039
to see you follow when I see you fail. And
1240
01:13:03.079 --> 01:13:05.840
so what Tony this even comes up? I think it's
1241
01:13:05.880 --> 01:13:08.600
season three or four where there's almost a kind of
1242
01:13:08.600 --> 01:13:13.359
a mutiny, right, Paully resents Tony, even sal at one
1243
01:13:13.399 --> 01:13:16.840
point kind of resents and criticizes Tony as mad at him.
1244
01:13:17.039 --> 01:13:19.720
Christopher resents and is mad at Tony, and so do
1245
01:13:19.880 --> 01:13:24.039
even some of the other underlings. And Tony has this
1246
01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:27.079
sit down meeting I think with sal or Paully, and
1247
01:13:27.399 --> 01:13:30.600
he basically just says, you don't know what it is
1248
01:13:30.640 --> 01:13:34.239
to be in my position. He's like, I have to
1249
01:13:34.279 --> 01:13:37.479
deal with stuff that I can already read you and
1250
01:13:37.560 --> 01:13:40.680
tell you that you can't handle this. And that's how
1251
01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:43.520
he's so successful against all of his enemies and against
1252
01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:47.920
Johnny Sack, his main rival towards the later seasons, is
1253
01:13:47.960 --> 01:13:49.800
that he can already tell that they can't put up
1254
01:13:49.840 --> 01:13:52.279
with it, they can't deal with what he deals with.
1255
01:13:53.119 --> 01:13:56.520
So it takes you almost feel like it takes the
1256
01:13:56.600 --> 01:13:59.960
kind of personality like Tony to handle what he did.
1257
01:14:01.520 --> 01:14:04.640
And it's not just IQ. It also requires this kind.
1258
01:14:04.560 --> 01:14:04.920
Of like.
1259
01:14:09.039 --> 01:14:10.800
You have to be like a general almost is what
1260
01:14:10.840 --> 01:14:11.560
I'm trying to say.
1261
01:14:11.960 --> 01:14:15.039
They did such a good job or he the actor
1262
01:14:15.079 --> 01:14:19.880
did throughout the entire series starting off is like the
1263
01:14:19.960 --> 01:14:28.800
second in command under Junior to becoming this really frightening character,
1264
01:14:29.039 --> 01:14:32.359
Like he gains weight, he gets meaner, he gets nastier,
1265
01:14:32.439 --> 01:14:37.119
he gets darker. The way that he walks changes, the
1266
01:14:37.159 --> 01:14:41.399
way that he talks changes. It's just he becomes more
1267
01:14:41.640 --> 01:14:44.760
of a monster mobster as the show goes on.
1268
01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:48.159
Yeah, no, that they intentionally are making him more like
1269
01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:50.840
a bear, Like that's why that bear comes out of
1270
01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:55.680
the woods randomly and Carmela and aj are afraid of it.
1271
01:14:55.680 --> 01:14:59.720
They start freaking out, But that's because it's the real
1272
01:14:59.760 --> 01:15:02.680
fear Tony. They're afraid of the monster, the bear that
1273
01:15:02.720 --> 01:15:04.000
Tony's turning into.
1274
01:15:04.119 --> 01:15:06.800
Because in the beginning you think he's a teddy bear,
1275
01:15:07.159 --> 01:15:10.399
but then by the end he's a big bat, grizzly bear.
1276
01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:18.399
Yeah, let's see what my next note was. By the way,
1277
01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:23.159
the sequences where you see Tony, you'll notice the show
1278
01:15:23.680 --> 01:15:26.880
episodes will constantly open with Tony lying there in the bed,
1279
01:15:28.239 --> 01:15:31.119
and then maybe one as'll open up or you'll see
1280
01:15:31.159 --> 01:15:33.159
him kind of like with his hair all messed up.
1281
01:15:34.600 --> 01:15:37.680
All of those sequences of him lying there in the
1282
01:15:37.720 --> 01:15:40.760
bed are foreshadowing. They're telling you what the show is
1283
01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:43.680
going to show you at the end. Because what is sleep.
1284
01:15:43.720 --> 01:15:46.840
It's a form of death. Okay, so those are all
1285
01:15:47.039 --> 01:15:50.079
versions of foreshadowing. We're watching the transformation of Tony. Like
1286
01:15:50.079 --> 01:15:52.159
you said, he just he kind of grows into this
1287
01:15:52.239 --> 01:15:54.520
sort of bloated kind of like he just sort of
1288
01:15:54.560 --> 01:16:01.119
waddles around and he walks around like a like a
1289
01:16:01.239 --> 01:16:04.199
degenerate king. And that's kind of what he becomes because
1290
01:16:04.199 --> 01:16:08.159
he can't lose. That's what's so surprising about this character
1291
01:16:08.239 --> 01:16:10.720
is that you know, when you're watching any other mob movie,
1292
01:16:10.840 --> 01:16:16.159
you just keep waiting, and you know, when you know Scarface,
1293
01:16:16.520 --> 01:16:17.680
you know his moment's coming.
1294
01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:17.840
Right.
1295
01:16:17.920 --> 01:16:20.199
He's sitting there with a giant pile of cocaine and
1296
01:16:20.239 --> 01:16:22.239
he's got the machine gun, and you know the Feds
1297
01:16:22.239 --> 01:16:24.319
are coming in. He's done for it, or the other mobster,
1298
01:16:24.439 --> 01:16:26.720
whoever it is that comes and takes him down. You
1299
01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:31.439
know he's at his end. That's a tragedy. How's a
1300
01:16:31.439 --> 01:16:34.399
good fellow's end? Does really go to get killed? Or
1301
01:16:34.439 --> 01:16:35.920
is he? I can't remember what up to it anyway,
1302
01:16:36.359 --> 01:16:38.600
but you know, you eventually know these characters are going
1303
01:16:38.680 --> 01:16:41.760
to go down, and you're just waiting the whole the
1304
01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:46.520
whole show, Tony. No, nothing happens to Tony. That's bad. Really,
1305
01:16:48.079 --> 01:16:50.880
even when the FBI, the FBI keeps making these moves
1306
01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:52.960
and you keep oh, now they've got the bug in
1307
01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:56.000
the basement, they're gonna get him, and then Meadow takes
1308
01:16:56.000 --> 01:17:00.279
the lamp to college. They spent this whole, like three
1309
01:17:00.439 --> 01:17:03.159
three episodes just trying to get this bug in Tony's basement.
1310
01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:06.680
A lot of it is through no conniving of his own.
1311
01:17:06.720 --> 01:17:08.199
It's just like dumb luck.
1312
01:17:08.039 --> 01:17:10.399
That it's no, it's fake, it's it's fate. He's faded
1313
01:17:10.479 --> 01:17:14.399
to be this general, this king that's unstoppable. He's an
1314
01:17:14.439 --> 01:17:18.600
unstoppable force until he himself is his own undoing. And
1315
01:17:18.600 --> 01:17:21.000
that's the whole point of this tragedy, is that so
1316
01:17:21.039 --> 01:17:25.199
the FBI moves against him with the surveillance. And then
1317
01:17:25.319 --> 01:17:29.359
other people start taking medication. Uh, this was an interesting point.
1318
01:17:29.640 --> 01:17:32.600
Other people are talking about taking medicine's lithium, prozac, all
1319
01:17:32.600 --> 01:17:36.920
this kind of stuff. It doesn't help anybody. Adriana doesn't.
1320
01:17:36.920 --> 01:17:38.399
Adriana start taking something.
1321
01:17:38.760 --> 01:17:41.439
She got durable boll syndrome, right, But.
1322
01:17:41.520 --> 01:17:45.399
Her and and Christopher get hooked on heroin. Remember, yeah,
1323
01:17:45.479 --> 01:17:47.600
they have a whole season of being heroin addicts. And
1324
01:17:47.640 --> 01:17:53.720
this is what prompts Christopher to go into rehab. And really,
1325
01:17:53.960 --> 01:17:58.119
Christopher is who Tony is grooming to be the number two.
1326
01:17:58.239 --> 01:18:01.039
He wants Christopher to run things. He thinks Christopher is
1327
01:18:01.079 --> 01:18:06.239
the best potential candidate because he's family. He's Carmelo's cousin.
1328
01:18:07.359 --> 01:18:09.520
In essence, he's the son that Tony.
1329
01:18:09.880 --> 01:18:13.960
You know that isn't right. And and Christopher is a
1330
01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:18.039
weird mix because he's dumb and smart at the same time. Right,
1331
01:18:18.119 --> 01:18:21.279
he's ironically really talented. If you remember when he goes
1332
01:18:21.279 --> 01:18:24.680
and takes acting lessons, he blows everyone away at how
1333
01:18:24.720 --> 01:18:27.520
good he is at acting. I mean he even brings
1334
01:18:28.239 --> 01:18:32.279
the acting class to tears. They can't believe it. But
1335
01:18:32.399 --> 01:18:37.479
he's also unstable, and then somebody in acting says something
1336
01:18:37.479 --> 01:18:39.720
to him that he takes serious and he knocks the
1337
01:18:39.720 --> 01:18:42.119
guy out. So it's like he just like he could
1338
01:18:42.159 --> 01:18:44.960
have been an excellent, amazing actor, and he just runs
1339
01:18:44.960 --> 01:18:46.960
out of there because some guy made a joke in
1340
01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:49.680
the midst of acting. So you can tell that Christopher
1341
01:18:49.760 --> 01:18:53.640
himself is unstable. There's mention of Christopher's life and how
1342
01:18:53.680 --> 01:18:56.319
he was kind of raised by a single mom and
1343
01:18:56.359 --> 01:18:59.199
his mom was a drunk that actually comes up, so
1344
01:18:59.359 --> 01:19:01.840
he didn't have a good parenting. This is part of
1345
01:19:01.880 --> 01:19:05.079
the reason why Christopher has fallen into this life of
1346
01:19:05.119 --> 01:19:12.760
being a gangster. And there's a couple of times that
1347
01:19:12.800 --> 01:19:14.600
This is what I like with Christopher is that there's
1348
01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:18.159
a couple of times where you think, wow, he's actually
1349
01:19:18.199 --> 01:19:20.199
going to be, you know, the guy that takes over
1350
01:19:20.279 --> 01:19:23.640
after Tony. He's going to be running things, right. Tony
1351
01:19:23.680 --> 01:19:27.960
eventually promotes him the basically number two, but Christopher himself
1352
01:19:28.079 --> 01:19:30.640
is his own worst enemy, right. Christopher ends up to
1353
01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:34.920
deal with his guilt and pain. He ends up on Heroin.
1354
01:19:36.560 --> 01:19:39.359
This almost destroys his relationship with Adriana, who's the best
1355
01:19:39.359 --> 01:19:42.520
thing to haven't him. She is the one that actually
1356
01:19:42.560 --> 01:19:47.239
tries to get him out of that life, right, not intentionally, well, actually,
1357
01:19:47.520 --> 01:19:49.479
at the beginning she kind of wants him to get
1358
01:19:49.479 --> 01:19:51.600
out of it. She's worried he's going to get killed.
1359
01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:54.880
But then, just like with Carmela, when she starts noticing
1360
01:19:54.920 --> 01:19:59.239
all the fancy shoes, the Gucci, Prada diamonds that come
1361
01:19:59.279 --> 01:20:02.359
from this life, doll and this is that the key,
1362
01:20:02.439 --> 01:20:05.560
the key reason why in many ways Carmela is more
1363
01:20:05.560 --> 01:20:09.479
of a hypocrite than other people is that Carmela knows
1364
01:20:09.520 --> 01:20:14.000
what's going on, but she hides behind this I'm a wife,
1365
01:20:14.039 --> 01:20:15.039
you know, I'm a wife.
1366
01:20:15.079 --> 01:20:17.199
I don't know pay for him, Yeah, she.
1367
01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:21.640
Hides behind all this piety yea. But Tony actually can
1368
01:20:21.680 --> 01:20:26.000
call her out because he knows that she's only doing
1369
01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:29.239
all this because she also likes the big diamonds, the
1370
01:20:29.239 --> 01:20:31.760
big house, the prestige.
1371
01:20:31.199 --> 01:20:33.439
Of being the first lady of a mob family.
1372
01:20:34.159 --> 01:20:36.960
Well, and and the fancy the shoots, the house and
1373
01:20:37.000 --> 01:20:38.000
all the all the goodies.
1374
01:20:38.079 --> 01:20:38.359
Yeah.
1375
01:20:38.800 --> 01:20:42.079
And so she even admits that when she's either talking
1376
01:20:42.119 --> 01:20:45.399
to the psychiatrist or the other priest and she has
1377
01:20:45.479 --> 01:20:47.920
this gigantic diamond on it, and then she hides it
1378
01:20:48.399 --> 01:20:51.960
because the priest or the psychiatrists like, well, you seem
1379
01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:54.600
to be benefiting from this lifestyle, maybe that's why you
1380
01:20:54.600 --> 01:20:56.079
don't want to get out of it. And she's kind
1381
01:20:56.079 --> 01:21:01.159
of like she's confronted with her own hypocrisy, but she doesn't.
1382
01:21:01.279 --> 01:21:03.359
She kind of counts the cost. And then we have
1383
01:21:03.479 --> 01:21:08.199
that season where briefly they split up, and you know,
1384
01:21:08.319 --> 01:21:10.920
she goes and finds the money in the bird feeder
1385
01:21:10.920 --> 01:21:13.119
that Tony had hidden, the forty thousand dollars there. She
1386
01:21:13.159 --> 01:21:16.680
goes and invests it. She wants to, you know, invest
1387
01:21:16.720 --> 01:21:20.960
in these development projects, this house that she has built,
1388
01:21:21.960 --> 01:21:24.600
because she knows, as Tony has said throughout the show,
1389
01:21:27.720 --> 01:21:30.880
the life of a mobster is eighty percent you're in
1390
01:21:30.920 --> 01:21:35.960
the can or what is It's a you're either in
1391
01:21:36.039 --> 01:21:39.279
the can or you're dead, right, you're either on the
1392
01:21:39.319 --> 01:21:43.760
Morgue table or you're in the prison. So Carmela knows this.
1393
01:21:44.359 --> 01:21:47.920
She's basically just worried about her own survival and the kids.
1394
01:21:48.560 --> 01:21:52.560
But even her character is a tremendous she's a tremendous
1395
01:21:52.640 --> 01:21:57.159
hypocrite because she's always hiding, just like the grandmother, behind
1396
01:21:57.279 --> 01:22:00.199
this facade of I'm doing this for the kids. I'm
1397
01:22:00.199 --> 01:22:04.079
doing this for the family. But if she really loved
1398
01:22:04.239 --> 01:22:07.159
the family, would she have them in this lifestyle.
1399
01:22:07.439 --> 01:22:15.119
No? Well, that's another question about Tony. Is he a
1400
01:22:15.159 --> 01:22:19.800
psychopath or sociopath or what Because you think he's doing
1401
01:22:19.840 --> 01:22:23.520
this for his family, he's he has to murder people
1402
01:22:23.640 --> 01:22:25.039
or they'll come murder his family.
1403
01:22:25.760 --> 01:22:27.640
Yeah. And there's also I mean, and we know Tony
1404
01:22:27.720 --> 01:22:30.520
is a philanderer. He's very open. It's it's pretty open.
1405
01:22:30.600 --> 01:22:31.119
They all are.
1406
01:22:31.439 --> 01:22:34.399
Well. But what I'm saying is that there's an interesting
1407
01:22:34.439 --> 01:22:38.640
sequence where she falls in love with Furio, this other
1408
01:22:38.800 --> 01:22:43.600
you know, Goofy, you know, ponytail guy with the wild
1409
01:22:43.720 --> 01:22:47.119
crazy shirts that he wears. She has this this affair
1410
01:22:47.199 --> 01:22:51.239
with with Furio in her mind and but she never
1411
01:22:51.319 --> 01:22:56.000
actually acts on it because Furio is like terrified of Tony, right,
1412
01:22:57.279 --> 01:22:59.760
And Tony there's a hilarious sege where he calls her
1413
01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:00.159
out of this.
1414
01:23:00.199 --> 01:23:02.439
She's like, oh, you made him a flangling, you made
1415
01:23:02.560 --> 01:23:04.520
me sleeping around? What about you, Infurio?
1416
01:23:04.640 --> 01:23:06.560
Huh, what about you? Emperial Towny.
1417
01:23:06.840 --> 01:23:07.760
It never happened.
1418
01:23:07.800 --> 01:23:11.239
I never slept with Furio. Right. But it doesn't matter
1419
01:23:11.279 --> 01:23:14.319
because the whole point is that she wanted to write.
1420
01:23:14.760 --> 01:23:17.760
She wanted that. And you know, like Jesus says, if
1421
01:23:17.760 --> 01:23:21.000
you're committing adultery in your heart, kimmying adultery. So Tony's
1422
01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:24.960
really just kind of a more honest character. It's not
1423
01:23:25.119 --> 01:23:28.720
that he's good, but it said he's more honest.
1424
01:23:28.479 --> 01:23:32.399
Right, Yeah, because she is kind of the moral compass
1425
01:23:32.479 --> 01:23:35.359
of the show. You think, you think, but then her
1426
01:23:35.439 --> 01:23:43.800
actions are like you said, she's hypocritical. She takes him
1427
01:23:43.840 --> 01:23:46.000
back when she shouldn't take him back.
1428
01:23:46.119 --> 01:23:52.439
You know, she likes the riches, Yeah, she is. She
1429
01:23:52.640 --> 01:23:56.159
loves the glamour and the money and the wealth more
1430
01:23:56.199 --> 01:23:58.640
than she loves the truth of what it would cost
1431
01:23:59.279 --> 01:24:02.319
to actually get the family out of that lifestyle. Because
1432
01:24:02.359 --> 01:24:06.479
if she really loved her kids, I mean, she has
1433
01:24:06.520 --> 01:24:10.039
to know that that lifestyle is dangerous. She's always harping
1434
01:24:10.039 --> 01:24:12.399
at Tony about how dangerous it is and what he's
1435
01:24:12.920 --> 01:24:17.199
the situation he's putting them in. Well, doesn't she know
1436
01:24:17.319 --> 01:24:21.239
that the kids are susceptible to this danger with this lifestyle?
1437
01:24:21.840 --> 01:24:24.039
So why is she not running to the beyond? In fact,
1438
01:24:24.039 --> 01:24:26.560
when she goes to the psychiatrist and the other priest,
1439
01:24:27.279 --> 01:24:31.720
they basically tell her this and she's like, well, you know, ooh,
1440
01:24:31.840 --> 01:24:33.520
I don't know if I really want to, you know,
1441
01:24:33.600 --> 01:24:35.840
count the cost to get out of this lifestyle because
1442
01:24:36.119 --> 01:24:37.920
in a lot of ways, it's really easy and it's
1443
01:24:37.920 --> 01:24:42.920
really nice. So from a character study perspective of Carmela,
1444
01:24:43.439 --> 01:24:46.359
I think that she is for a lot of people
1445
01:24:46.560 --> 01:24:50.279
hard to stomach because she's really hypocritical. And it's not
1446
01:24:50.359 --> 01:24:55.439
that some of the moral criticisms she makes aren't correct,
1447
01:24:55.720 --> 01:24:58.840
it's that she doesn't. She hides behind the piety, I
1448
01:24:58.840 --> 01:25:00.399
think is what makes people really not about it.
1449
01:25:00.359 --> 01:25:02.520
It'll be critical, and she has no backbone when it.
1450
01:25:02.479 --> 01:25:06.279
Comes to standing up to him, because Tony knows her weakness.
1451
01:25:06.960 --> 01:25:09.479
Remember when he makes her really mad, what is he
1452
01:25:09.479 --> 01:25:11.319
goes and buys her this big diamond.
1453
01:25:10.920 --> 01:25:13.199
Necklace because she found him cheating. So he.
1454
01:25:14.680 --> 01:25:16.840
Yeah, but he knows, but he knows her weakness. Yeah,
1455
01:25:16.880 --> 01:25:18.640
which is you know, jewels and stuff.
1456
01:25:18.720 --> 01:25:18.920
Yeah.
1457
01:25:19.760 --> 01:25:22.159
Okay, so let's move on as we get we need
1458
01:25:22.199 --> 01:25:24.520
to how long were you been going for? Not too bad?
1459
01:25:24.520 --> 01:25:26.640
An hour and a half, so hopefully we can keep
1460
01:25:26.680 --> 01:25:30.159
this to about two hours. Maybe there's an interesting sequence
1461
01:25:30.159 --> 01:25:35.560
where AJ sees the dead when Tony's mom eventually does die,
1462
01:25:36.960 --> 01:25:41.720
ghosts appear. There's a sequence where Tony or somebody sees
1463
01:25:41.720 --> 01:25:46.159
Pussy in a mirror. AJ sees the grandmother in the hallway. Remember,
1464
01:25:46.239 --> 01:25:50.640
so we're starting to see that there's flashes of the
1465
01:25:50.720 --> 01:25:52.119
dead being seen, right.
1466
01:25:52.239 --> 01:25:56.119
Well, not only that, but when the AJ sees the grandma,
1467
01:25:56.239 --> 01:25:59.960
that's the beginning of his traumatic episode, his panic attacks
1468
01:26:00.199 --> 01:26:03.840
like Tony. So the grandma has affected Tony with the
1469
01:26:03.840 --> 01:26:07.000
panic attacks. And then again to the grandson a J
1470
01:26:07.319 --> 01:26:07.960
panic attacks.
1471
01:26:08.039 --> 01:26:10.399
Yes, because as you put here your note is good.
1472
01:26:10.479 --> 01:26:13.800
You said AJ sees the ghost of the grandmother and
1473
01:26:13.840 --> 01:26:16.199
this is the beginning of his trauma, like Tony with
1474
01:26:16.359 --> 01:26:21.279
the devill ghoul. Then we have the very interesting reference
1475
01:26:22.199 --> 01:26:27.159
by the Jewish psychologist to Carmelo when she goes. He says,
1476
01:26:27.159 --> 01:26:30.439
have you read crime in Punishment? And Crime and Punishment
1477
01:26:30.479 --> 01:26:33.560
is great because it's in many ways it's very similar
1478
01:26:33.600 --> 01:26:38.399
to the story of the Sopranos. You have, is it?
1479
01:26:38.479 --> 01:26:42.439
Raskolnikov is the main character who has murdered somebody because
1480
01:26:42.840 --> 01:26:46.680
he overhears stories of great men and he thinks, well,
1481
01:26:46.760 --> 01:26:49.319
if the great men of the world, like Napoleon and
1482
01:26:49.359 --> 01:26:52.279
different generals, you know, basically just killed whoever they wanted
1483
01:26:52.279 --> 01:26:55.279
to to become great men. Why don't I just kill
1484
01:26:55.319 --> 01:26:57.159
somebody and become a great man? I mean, everybody else
1485
01:26:57.159 --> 01:26:58.960
seems to do this in history, so why not me?
1486
01:26:59.600 --> 01:27:01.520
And then, as you know, if you've read Crime and Punishment,
1487
01:27:01.600 --> 01:27:04.920
the rest of the book is basically Raskolnikov dealing with
1488
01:27:04.960 --> 01:27:08.560
the guilt of what he did and only finding redemption
1489
01:27:08.760 --> 01:27:12.479
at the end of his life through Sophia, who represents
1490
01:27:12.520 --> 01:27:15.840
grace and wisdom, the girl who ended up being the prostitute,
1491
01:27:15.880 --> 01:27:18.279
who's the one, the only one that truly loves him. Right,
1492
01:27:18.600 --> 01:27:22.000
she keeps visiting him while he's in the work prison
1493
01:27:22.039 --> 01:27:26.039
camp for murder, and then finally at the end he repents. Right,
1494
01:27:26.119 --> 01:27:31.119
So you think that so that there's the reason that
1495
01:27:31.159 --> 01:27:37.760
the psychiatrist recommended to Carmela to re Crime and Punishment
1496
01:27:37.800 --> 01:27:41.520
is because he sees her as a character like perhaps
1497
01:27:41.520 --> 01:27:45.600
a Sophia, or like even a Raskolnikov, in the sense
1498
01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:49.000
that she's guilty for being part of this, and so
1499
01:27:49.119 --> 01:27:52.039
he's recommending that book to her for maybe for her
1500
01:27:52.119 --> 01:27:54.079
to repent or to come out of this life, because
1501
01:27:54.079 --> 01:27:55.920
that's what he tells her. The priest basically says the
1502
01:27:55.960 --> 01:27:57.359
same thing to you. You need to get out of
1503
01:27:57.359 --> 01:27:59.720
this life. It's not gonna it's not going to be
1504
01:28:00.119 --> 01:28:02.560
end well for you. And this is another reason why
1505
01:28:03.840 --> 01:28:05.640
it is. I think it's true at the end that
1506
01:28:06.640 --> 01:28:11.399
Carmela is also killed because she doesn't heed the warnings.
1507
01:28:11.600 --> 01:28:15.800
She stays in the life. They're constantly warned. The dead
1508
01:28:15.840 --> 01:28:19.079
are appearing to them to tell them that this will
1509
01:28:19.159 --> 01:28:19.960
lead to your death.
1510
01:28:20.279 --> 01:28:24.199
Well throughout the show, most of them have a moment
1511
01:28:24.279 --> 01:28:27.640
where they could get out, but they stay in and
1512
01:28:27.680 --> 01:28:30.800
then that leads to their death.
1513
01:28:31.079 --> 01:28:34.960
Correct, They have an out multiple times, in fact, all
1514
01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:38.319
of them really, I mean it, maybe except for Tony,
1515
01:28:38.680 --> 01:28:40.920
although I guess, you know, conceivably if they wanted to,
1516
01:28:41.239 --> 01:28:43.760
Tony could just fly off the to an island somewhere
1517
01:28:43.760 --> 01:28:44.680
if he wanted to. I guess.
1518
01:28:44.920 --> 01:28:48.439
The day that Adriana died, she could have chosen to
1519
01:28:48.640 --> 01:28:52.279
leave and go into witness protection, but she.
1520
01:28:52.319 --> 01:28:57.520
Chose the lie and to go to well well, no, actually, well,
1521
01:28:58.199 --> 01:29:01.000
chrispher made her choice, and Adriana in a choice because
1522
01:29:01.039 --> 01:29:05.359
if Christopher hadn't gone to call Tony, remember, then Adriana
1523
01:29:05.359 --> 01:29:08.199
wouldn't have been killed if he had gone. He said
1524
01:29:08.239 --> 01:29:11.760
I gotta go back. I'll be back in a minute. Adriana. Uh,
1525
01:29:12.239 --> 01:29:14.399
he didn't have to go. He didn't have to go
1526
01:29:14.439 --> 01:29:17.079
talk to Tony, right, he could have just left and
1527
01:29:17.119 --> 01:29:19.840
then conceivably they, I mean the FBI had it arranged
1528
01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:21.880
to where he would have even had a movie deal yep.
1529
01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:23.880
I mean he would have had his whole dream to
1530
01:29:23.960 --> 01:29:27.880
be a movie producer, even though he does in a
1531
01:29:27.920 --> 01:29:30.680
way produced that terrible movie in the final season.
1532
01:29:30.760 --> 01:29:34.439
One of my favorite things about Christopher is that he
1533
01:29:34.520 --> 01:29:40.279
never loses his his mob ness, his mafianess. Even when
1534
01:29:40.319 --> 01:29:45.520
he's dealing with Hollywood moguls and Ben Kingsley and other
1535
01:29:45.840 --> 01:29:50.039
people where he should be polite, he is still one
1536
01:29:50.159 --> 01:29:53.920
hundred percent mobster, using his mob to lean on people.
1537
01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:57.239
Yeah, he threatens Ben Kingsley when Ben Kingsley doesn't want
1538
01:29:57.279 --> 01:29:59.880
to be in his dumb version of Saw. It's ba
1539
01:30:00.520 --> 01:30:02.640
Christopher's come up with this terrible idea for a movie
1540
01:30:02.680 --> 01:30:06.199
that's like Saw mixed with Mafia. Yeah, and it's a
1541
01:30:06.279 --> 01:30:09.800
zombie mobster basically, which the movie actually does get made
1542
01:30:10.079 --> 01:30:13.199
in six. Season six is one of the funniest comedic
1543
01:30:13.239 --> 01:30:15.840
elements in the whole show. But he you know, he
1544
01:30:16.239 --> 01:30:18.319
tries to throw his weight around with Ben Kingsley, you know,
1545
01:30:18.399 --> 01:30:21.000
and he ends up him whoever's with him, I forget
1546
01:30:21.039 --> 01:30:23.800
who it's Polly or somebody, but basically just he punches
1547
01:30:23.880 --> 01:30:27.239
Lauren butcall and steals her, you know, swag bag, you know,
1548
01:30:27.359 --> 01:30:31.239
of thousands of dollars worth of material. So that is
1549
01:30:31.279 --> 01:30:35.720
an interesting aspect to Christophers that he never alters who
1550
01:30:35.720 --> 01:30:38.000
he is with who he's around, right, you know when
1551
01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:40.560
he gets around that Hollywood guy that is the screenwriter,
1552
01:30:41.039 --> 01:30:43.000
you know, the screenwriter starts trying to throw his weight
1553
01:30:43.119 --> 01:30:46.159
with Christopher, and Christopher's like, look, you owe me twenty
1554
01:30:46.239 --> 01:30:49.520
thousand dollars, right, I'm gonna give you a week. And
1555
01:30:49.560 --> 01:30:52.239
the screenwriter guy's like, oh yeah, you're in the mafia.
1556
01:30:52.920 --> 01:30:56.399
Yeah a week, okay, yeah, whatever, Christopher. Christopher shows up
1557
01:30:56.399 --> 01:30:58.880
a week later, beats the crap out of the guy
1558
01:30:59.079 --> 01:31:01.079
within the inch of a show his life, right, and
1559
01:31:01.119 --> 01:31:03.159
then he beats him up again. Right, the guy ends
1560
01:31:03.239 --> 01:31:07.600
up getting video him so he yeah. By the way,
1561
01:31:07.640 --> 01:31:10.199
I don't forget the sequence And was it season two
1562
01:31:10.279 --> 01:31:13.520
or three that was great with John Favreau where you
1563
01:31:13.600 --> 01:31:16.640
have breaking to the fourth wall. John Favreau playing John
1564
01:31:16.680 --> 01:31:21.640
Favreau in the show shows Up, gets Christopher to tell
1565
01:31:21.680 --> 01:31:25.039
him stories, and then takes Christopher stories and puts them
1566
01:31:25.039 --> 01:31:26.359
into his show that he's making.
1567
01:31:26.520 --> 01:31:29.039
Right So, I'm surprised he didn't even kill him for that.
1568
01:31:29.000 --> 01:31:31.920
Right, Well, he was. I guess, you know, if you're
1569
01:31:31.960 --> 01:31:34.720
an A list kind of person like Ben Kingsley or
1570
01:31:34.800 --> 01:31:37.960
a producer famous, you know, like you're maybe that's a
1571
01:31:37.960 --> 01:31:40.720
little bit above what Christopher could do. Because even though
1572
01:31:40.800 --> 01:31:43.159
Christopher is kind of a number two or three guy, like,
1573
01:31:43.199 --> 01:31:45.520
he doesn't have the ability to just go, you know,
1574
01:31:45.800 --> 01:31:48.560
kill anybody in Hollywood. He's not that big of a player.
1575
01:31:49.199 --> 01:31:51.119
His attitude is like, you don't know who I am,
1576
01:31:51.159 --> 01:31:53.239
and he'll he'll punch anybody in the phase, it doesn't
1577
01:31:53.279 --> 01:31:54.159
matter who it is.
1578
01:31:54.279 --> 01:31:57.960
Yeah, So you know, Christopher does have the right amount
1579
01:31:58.000 --> 01:32:01.079
of balls. And that's that's one reason why Tony does
1580
01:32:01.239 --> 01:32:04.000
like Christopher is that he sees in Christopher that sort
1581
01:32:04.039 --> 01:32:08.039
of fearlessness that he has. In fact, Christopher is so
1582
01:32:09.439 --> 01:32:12.159
fearless eventually that he you know, there's a couple of
1583
01:32:12.199 --> 01:32:14.680
times where he snaps and he's ready to kill Tony.
1584
01:32:15.640 --> 01:32:17.640
You know. You we even think a couple of times
1585
01:32:17.640 --> 01:32:19.600
he's going to you know, when it comes to the
1586
01:32:19.640 --> 01:32:23.760
situation where Tony gives Adriana a ride home, Christopher is
1587
01:32:23.800 --> 01:32:27.600
absolutely convinced that Tony slept with her, that they had sex,
1588
01:32:28.720 --> 01:32:32.199
even though they actually didn't because they wrecked. Uh, you know,
1589
01:32:32.239 --> 01:32:34.560
he comes into the club to bout it, being drunk,
1590
01:32:34.640 --> 01:32:37.840
firing off the gun that Tony takes him out to
1591
01:32:38.079 --> 01:32:40.000
outside the city and there, you know, he's about to
1592
01:32:40.039 --> 01:32:41.600
shoot him in the head. You think it's all over
1593
01:32:41.680 --> 01:32:44.880
with Steve Bashimi basically convinces Tony not to do it.
1594
01:32:44.960 --> 01:32:47.560
And so there's there's two or three instances like this,
1595
01:32:47.720 --> 01:32:50.640
you know, where where Tony and Christopher have this this
1596
01:32:50.680 --> 01:32:53.479
sort of confrontation and you you really you're on your edge,
1597
01:32:53.520 --> 01:32:54.800
you or see you don't know where it's going to go,
1598
01:32:55.960 --> 01:32:57.680
and you just wait, you just wait. The whole time,
1599
01:32:57.720 --> 01:33:01.279
you think Christopher is going to be Tony's downfall. And
1600
01:33:01.319 --> 01:33:03.680
that was another thing that was really good about the show.
1601
01:33:04.279 --> 01:33:07.399
You keep anticipating, Oh, it's going to be Christopher, it's
1602
01:33:07.399 --> 01:33:09.359
going to be Chrisopher and Adriana. They're going to be informants,
1603
01:33:09.359 --> 01:33:10.920
they're going to be flipped, they're gonna you know, go
1604
01:33:10.960 --> 01:33:13.199
shoot Tony. They're gonna go crazy, you know. And no,
1605
01:33:13.399 --> 01:33:17.119
it never happens, and it doesn't end with Christopher the
1606
01:33:17.119 --> 01:33:20.279
way you think. Nope, you don't expect Adriana to get killed,
1607
01:33:20.319 --> 01:33:22.600
and you don't expect Christopher to die the way he does.
1608
01:33:22.840 --> 01:33:24.159
That was crazy.
1609
01:33:24.479 --> 01:33:30.880
But Adrian Adriana has the same problem as Carmela because
1610
01:33:30.920 --> 01:33:33.439
she stays with Christopher because he's rising up and up
1611
01:33:33.479 --> 01:33:35.960
and up, and she's waiting for the one day we
1612
01:33:36.039 --> 01:33:38.600
make enough money, he'll marry me. We'll move out of
1613
01:33:38.600 --> 01:33:40.800
this crappy apartment and we'll have a house. You know,
1614
01:33:40.840 --> 01:33:43.640
all her dreams will come true. She's waiting on Christopher
1615
01:33:43.640 --> 01:33:46.600
this whole time, and she could have got out, and
1616
01:33:46.680 --> 01:33:49.840
she has a terrible ending because she put all of
1617
01:33:49.880 --> 01:33:51.760
her eggs in the Christopher basket.
1618
01:33:52.560 --> 01:33:55.119
Yeah, and somebody was asking about Luren Bacall. That's who
1619
01:33:56.600 --> 01:34:00.000
Christopher punches in the face and steals her swag bag. Yeah, exactly.
1620
01:34:01.399 --> 01:34:04.279
There were quite a few interesting cameos. David Lee Roth
1621
01:34:04.399 --> 01:34:07.479
made a cameo at the poker game, Frank Sinatra, Junior
1622
01:34:07.520 --> 01:34:13.520
Max a cameo, Ben Kingsley, Lauren Baccall, Jon Favreau, and
1623
01:34:13.600 --> 01:34:18.239
probably a couple more, but there are some notable you
1624
01:34:18.279 --> 01:34:21.520
know Hollywood cameos. Oh the Baldwin at the end, who
1625
01:34:21.560 --> 01:34:24.159
went who plays Tony in Christopher's Terrible movie?
1626
01:34:26.319 --> 01:34:29.399
Pretty much the bald playing himself in a bad movie?
1627
01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:41.279
Right, yeah, what is this ecstasy? Oh, there's an interesting
1628
01:34:41.520 --> 01:34:47.960
some references to when uh Meadow has her phase of
1629
01:34:48.600 --> 01:34:52.560
dating I forget his name, and he sells ecstasy. So
1630
01:34:52.600 --> 01:34:55.239
there's a one of the guys who's trying to work
1631
01:34:55.279 --> 01:34:58.520
with Tony, who's the son of one of Tony's guys.
1632
01:34:59.520 --> 01:35:02.159
I forget the guy's name, but Meadow dates him for
1633
01:35:02.199 --> 01:35:05.359
a while. You think they're gonna be together. He's selling ecstasy,
1634
01:35:05.439 --> 01:35:08.079
and then he ends up dead because he tried to
1635
01:35:08.479 --> 01:35:14.079
kind of do something against Tony. Tony has him killed,
1636
01:35:14.079 --> 01:35:16.520
and of course Tony lies about all the people that
1637
01:35:16.560 --> 01:35:20.840
he's had killed. And because if Meadow or Carmela found
1638
01:35:20.880 --> 01:35:22.800
out all the people that Tony had killed, they would
1639
01:35:22.800 --> 01:35:25.800
they would be furious. Right, So we know Tony has
1640
01:35:25.840 --> 01:35:29.359
Adriana killed, right, he has sal go kill still go
1641
01:35:29.439 --> 01:35:34.560
kill Adriana. But he always tells, you know, there's always
1642
01:35:34.600 --> 01:35:37.479
this plausible cover story of oh they got killed through
1643
01:35:37.560 --> 01:35:40.479
you know, drugs. Oh, Adriana ran off. We'll never see
1644
01:35:40.479 --> 01:35:43.159
her again. She's you know, she got a feeling hurt
1645
01:35:43.800 --> 01:35:48.640
something like that. There's an interesting reference when Meadow goes
1646
01:35:48.680 --> 01:35:52.600
to college to the Francis Stone or Saunders book that
1647
01:35:52.640 --> 01:35:55.600
you've heard me reference many times, the CIA and the
1648
01:35:55.640 --> 01:35:58.640
cultural Cold War right, and this is an important book
1649
01:35:58.680 --> 01:36:01.680
because shows the all of the CIA and the arts
1650
01:36:01.840 --> 01:36:05.199
throughout the entire Cold War period. That book is referenced
1651
01:36:05.279 --> 01:36:08.600
on purpose, you see, it's not accident normal that book
1652
01:36:08.640 --> 01:36:10.800
comes up, because this is telling you that the people
1653
01:36:10.800 --> 01:36:13.560
who are writing this show they know what they're talking about.
1654
01:36:13.560 --> 01:36:17.119
They know this world, the psyche, the geopolitics, they know
1655
01:36:18.159 --> 01:36:21.039
how this stuff goes down and how it works, or
1656
01:36:21.079 --> 01:36:23.680
else they wouldn't be citing books of that caliber, of
1657
01:36:23.720 --> 01:36:26.439
that level. It's a very famous academic work about the
1658
01:36:26.479 --> 01:36:29.640
CIA's role in the Cold War through the arts and
1659
01:36:29.720 --> 01:36:34.640
so the in in there's a flyer for this lecture.
1660
01:36:34.760 --> 01:36:37.760
I think Carmelo picks it. Oh, this looks interesting, right
1661
01:36:37.840 --> 01:36:45.800
that that's in Carmela Meadows dorm room. And so the
1662
01:36:45.840 --> 01:36:48.920
Saunders is supposed to be lecturing at Meadows College, which
1663
01:36:48.960 --> 01:36:52.199
is interesting. Then we have the reference to because again
1664
01:36:52.279 --> 01:36:54.479
remember the CIA mafia link, right, this is what this
1665
01:36:54.560 --> 01:36:58.279
is talking about. Then we have the references to Sunta Zoo, right,
1666
01:36:59.119 --> 01:37:02.239
and there's a there's a a little joke trope that
1667
01:37:02.279 --> 01:37:05.079
comes up a lot in the show where Tony and
1668
01:37:05.119 --> 01:37:08.800
his psychiatrists will come to a discovery or she'll recommend
1669
01:37:08.800 --> 01:37:11.600
a book, uh, and then he'll go read it, right,
1670
01:37:11.640 --> 01:37:14.520
and then he'll say something that she said or he
1671
01:37:14.600 --> 01:37:19.000
learned in the therapy sessions to Paully or to Christopher,
1672
01:37:19.039 --> 01:37:21.520
and then they'll repeat it like it was their wisdom. Right.
1673
01:37:21.840 --> 01:37:25.439
So that's how you get Paully saying, don't you ever
1674
01:37:25.479 --> 01:37:28.119
read some to zoop? Haven't you? Ain't you ever read
1675
01:37:28.159 --> 01:37:30.880
sonta Zoop, which we know Paully is an idiot, he
1676
01:37:30.880 --> 01:37:33.760
doesn't read books, right, And then you'll get Christopher will say,
1677
01:37:34.279 --> 01:37:37.279
you know these tropes to like there was some phrase
1678
01:37:37.359 --> 01:37:39.720
that the therapist told, you know, like a cliche, and
1679
01:37:39.720 --> 01:37:42.880
then Christopher goes around repeating it like it was his wisdom.
1680
01:37:42.920 --> 01:37:44.399
It's just that there's a lot of these kind of
1681
01:37:44.399 --> 01:37:48.760
little funny terms of phrases like that. But there's more
1682
01:37:48.800 --> 01:37:53.720
seeing of ghosts that comes up in season four. There's
1683
01:37:53.720 --> 01:37:57.840
an interesting sequence where when Tony meets the Mercedes salesman
1684
01:37:57.920 --> 01:38:01.640
girlfriend and they go to have their affair at the
1685
01:38:01.720 --> 01:38:06.560
zoo and it's in the snake reptile room. So you
1686
01:38:06.640 --> 01:38:11.960
have this weird Adam Eves symbolism going on here once again,
1687
01:38:12.199 --> 01:38:16.960
because as you know, this woman herself is a little unstable.
1688
01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:19.800
We later find out that, well, we know that she's
1689
01:38:19.880 --> 01:38:23.800
actually going to the psychiatrist with Tony, right, they're seeing
1690
01:38:23.840 --> 01:38:26.680
the same psychiatrist. That's how they meet. Tony goes and
1691
01:38:26.680 --> 01:38:31.199
flirts with her and they start having an affair. But
1692
01:38:31.239 --> 01:38:35.279
then Tony realizes that this woman is way unstable, and Tony,
1693
01:38:35.359 --> 01:38:38.359
being the sort of psychopath that he is, like he
1694
01:38:38.479 --> 01:38:41.920
is bad for her. Right, so she ends up obviously
1695
01:38:41.960 --> 01:38:44.880
you know, dying. She ends up killing herself. And so
1696
01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:50.800
once again we see that it's emblematic, it's foreshadowing that
1697
01:38:50.800 --> 01:38:54.239
that Tony is a bringer of death. He's almost an
1698
01:38:54.279 --> 01:38:57.000
angel of death. I mean, what is a what is
1699
01:38:57.039 --> 01:38:59.119
a warrior? But an a version of like an angel
1700
01:38:59.119 --> 01:39:02.880
of death. He's a bringer of death everywhere he goes, right,
1701
01:39:03.239 --> 01:39:06.359
It's it's almost like he is kind of the serpent, right,
1702
01:39:06.359 --> 01:39:08.720
And that sequence where they have the affair in the
1703
01:39:09.520 --> 01:39:13.399
reptile room at the Zoo. It's specifically showing you the
1704
01:39:13.439 --> 01:39:18.479
snake to associate Tony with, you know, the serpent, the
1705
01:39:18.520 --> 01:39:21.079
woman with Eve, and it's in the fallen state. I
1706
01:39:21.079 --> 01:39:22.439
thought that was really well done.
1707
01:39:22.560 --> 01:39:25.680
It's interesting that that Tony has made it to the
1708
01:39:25.720 --> 01:39:30.920
top of the food chain in his circles, but nothing
1709
01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:35.560
he does or has brings him any happiness. Even his gumars,
1710
01:39:36.279 --> 01:39:38.279
all of them turn out to be a giant pain
1711
01:39:38.359 --> 01:39:41.800
in the butt. So nothing that he has he can
1712
01:39:42.119 --> 01:39:42.560
enjoy it.
1713
01:39:42.920 --> 01:39:46.720
Yeah, all the pleasures end up being pain and punishment.
1714
01:39:46.800 --> 01:39:48.600
That's the irony here, is that all the things that
1715
01:39:48.640 --> 01:39:51.600
you think are going to be the pleasures that make
1716
01:39:51.680 --> 01:39:54.640
you happy to turn into punishments. And that's that's the
1717
01:39:54.680 --> 01:39:57.920
irony of the hedonistic life. And even in that episode,
1718
01:39:57.920 --> 01:40:00.560
there's I think it's Polly, there's a reference it somewhere
1719
01:40:00.600 --> 01:40:04.079
to predators and snakes and they're watching a TV show
1720
01:40:04.119 --> 01:40:07.119
and Paulie is funny because he's always saying these stupid
1721
01:40:07.199 --> 01:40:11.680
things that really annoy Tony. He's got that, he's got
1722
01:40:11.760 --> 01:40:14.239
that laugh that Tony can't stand the joke. He can't
1723
01:40:14.239 --> 01:40:16.720
stand Pauli's jokes. He thinks they're really dumb. I swear
1724
01:40:16.840 --> 01:40:20.840
t do it, but it's great tea. And then they're
1725
01:40:20.880 --> 01:40:23.640
watching some show about snakes or something, and then Polly
1726
01:40:23.760 --> 01:40:27.079
has some funny line about it's like the snake in Genesis.
1727
01:40:27.359 --> 01:40:30.319
You know, he starts talking about it's like the Bible teah,
1728
01:40:30.760 --> 01:40:34.279
but it's actually true what Pauli's saying. What's the funny part.
1729
01:40:34.479 --> 01:40:38.039
Fun fact about Polly is his character, I mean his
1730
01:40:38.520 --> 01:40:42.680
in real life. He has a rap sheet that was
1731
01:40:42.760 --> 01:40:47.640
longer than his acting credits. So he was arrested they
1732
01:40:47.640 --> 01:40:52.079
say twenty eight times. So Polly was a real, live.
1733
01:40:51.960 --> 01:40:55.800
Criminal, so kind of a real I don't know if
1734
01:40:55.840 --> 01:40:58.399
he was an actual mobster, but at least somebody with
1735
01:40:58.600 --> 01:41:01.880
a big criminal rap sheet. And if you watch interviews,
1736
01:41:01.880 --> 01:41:05.680
I watched an interview with the cast present like it
1737
01:41:05.720 --> 01:41:08.119
was last year or so, twenty or so years after
1738
01:41:08.159 --> 01:41:12.520
the show, and the funny thing was that most of
1739
01:41:12.560 --> 01:41:14.840
the characters are kind of what you would expect them
1740
01:41:14.880 --> 01:41:16.479
to be. They're more or less who they are in
1741
01:41:16.520 --> 01:41:18.399
the show in terms of the way they talk and
1742
01:41:18.720 --> 01:41:25.560
the voices and whatnot. But Polly and Pussy are literally
1743
01:41:25.600 --> 01:41:30.399
the same, like they're that guy. That's really how Polly was,
1744
01:41:30.439 --> 01:41:32.319
and somebody's saying he was really a monster, so I
1745
01:41:32.319 --> 01:41:34.920
wouldn't be surprised. But in his interviews, that's how any
1746
01:41:34.960 --> 01:41:37.640
he dresses the same, Like he literally dresses just like
1747
01:41:37.720 --> 01:41:42.199
that guy. I mean, it's funny. Yeah, yes, the same Harry,
1748
01:41:42.199 --> 01:41:45.560
He's got the same you know, big what do you
1749
01:41:45.600 --> 01:41:50.720
call those seventies shirts with the big these coloring? But
1750
01:41:50.760 --> 01:41:53.319
there's a name for those, like a wing color. The
1751
01:41:53.640 --> 01:41:54.319
seventies one.
1752
01:41:54.399 --> 01:41:57.359
The fashions in this show were terrible, like it was
1753
01:41:57.399 --> 01:42:01.279
like the worst of the nineties. We fashions for women.
1754
01:42:01.479 --> 01:42:04.560
I don't think I liked one of Carmela's hairdoos.
1755
01:42:05.920 --> 01:42:09.079
Well, Cammela had the ultimate wine Mom Karen at one point,
1756
01:42:09.199 --> 01:42:11.239
I remember she got the Karen like.
1757
01:42:11.279 --> 01:42:13.359
I didn't think her hairdis could get any worse, and
1758
01:42:13.359 --> 01:42:15.560
then she got the Karen haircut. I can believe it.
1759
01:42:19.560 --> 01:42:28.119
My mother's grave tea. Haven't you read Santazo. There was
1760
01:42:28.159 --> 01:42:31.439
a great episode where they showed HUD as a scam.
1761
01:42:31.479 --> 01:42:33.880
I thought that was fascinating. If you know about the
1762
01:42:33.920 --> 01:42:37.000
history of HUD housing urban development, if you know about
1763
01:42:37.039 --> 01:42:42.399
Katherine Austin fits her whole many of the things that
1764
01:42:42.439 --> 01:42:46.399
she writes about talks about deals with scammery and hud.
1765
01:42:46.840 --> 01:42:49.039
That actually comes up in one of these episodes with
1766
01:42:49.319 --> 01:42:54.600
the housing development scam that they organize they clear out
1767
01:42:54.640 --> 01:42:58.199
the crackheads. That part was pretty funny, how they hire
1768
01:42:58.279 --> 01:43:00.399
other gangs to come in and clear out the brackhead
1769
01:43:00.479 --> 01:43:03.720
so that they can revitalize these houses. But it's all
1770
01:43:03.720 --> 01:43:07.359
a scam because the houses are like way overvalued for
1771
01:43:07.399 --> 01:43:09.000
what they are, so it's really just a way to
1772
01:43:09.039 --> 01:43:12.760
funnel money. There's an interesting scam that they thought up.
1773
01:43:13.199 --> 01:43:17.159
One season they were all involved in a giant mega
1774
01:43:17.560 --> 01:43:21.640
building from the city, a big esplanade, a new construction site.
1775
01:43:21.760 --> 01:43:26.079
Yeah, that becomes the main money making thing from season
1776
01:43:26.199 --> 01:43:29.439
four to six where Tony finally gets in on something
1777
01:43:29.479 --> 01:43:32.079
really big. Right, So this is this is a common
1778
01:43:32.079 --> 01:43:35.359
theme in you know, mafia movies, like in The Godfather
1779
01:43:35.439 --> 01:43:39.520
where Godfather won. They're just a local kind of crime family.
1780
01:43:39.960 --> 01:43:45.039
Then they expand to Vegas and by season three, Michael
1781
01:43:45.079 --> 01:43:49.119
Corleone has gone global. He's making giant land deals that
1782
01:43:49.199 --> 01:43:53.039
need the Vatican approval. So he's also created a think tank,
1783
01:43:53.079 --> 01:43:55.600
a foundation, a tax refoundation, but not think tank of
1784
01:43:55.680 --> 01:43:59.479
an ngo, a tax refoundation to hide money. So the
1785
01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:02.159
common thing in the Mob movies is going from the
1786
01:44:02.199 --> 01:44:07.439
small time to big time. And so this big water
1787
01:44:07.720 --> 01:44:10.880
land deal, the development deal is a big part of
1788
01:44:10.920 --> 01:44:14.479
how Tony is finally going to, you know, become a
1789
01:44:14.520 --> 01:44:18.159
really wealthy person if all of this pays off, right.
1790
01:44:19.119 --> 01:44:21.600
So it's all built up to this big Esplanada land deal,
1791
01:44:21.680 --> 01:44:23.760
this big development where they're going to make a big
1792
01:44:24.119 --> 01:44:26.199
it's like, I don't know, like a big mall shopping
1793
01:44:26.279 --> 01:44:33.039
plaza right by the water in Jersey there. Let me say,
1794
01:44:33.079 --> 01:44:40.159
let's go on. Horse is yeah. So Tony the horse
1795
01:44:40.199 --> 01:44:43.760
is interesting because Tony eventually really bonds with this race
1796
01:44:43.800 --> 01:44:46.479
horse that he bets on. Her name is his name
1797
01:44:46.560 --> 01:44:51.119
is Pyo Ma, and the horse wins Tony so much
1798
01:44:51.119 --> 01:44:54.399
money that he buys it, and he loves this horse
1799
01:44:54.439 --> 01:44:56.560
more than he loves anyone else. This is another interesting
1800
01:44:56.560 --> 01:44:59.159
thing where a lot of times I guess psychopathic type
1801
01:44:59.159 --> 01:45:01.840
people because they can't bond with humans, they'll bond with animals.
1802
01:45:02.560 --> 01:45:05.119
And so he bonds with his horse and then the horse,
1803
01:45:06.199 --> 01:45:09.840
you got it, dies, He gets cooked, he burns up.
1804
01:45:10.319 --> 01:45:13.479
I mean, it's almost like the horse ends up damned,
1805
01:45:13.600 --> 01:45:16.159
so to speak, right, just like.
1806
01:45:16.159 --> 01:45:17.920
Everybody else that loves Tony.
1807
01:45:17.760 --> 01:45:20.479
And so did well, Tony is a bringer of death
1808
01:45:20.680 --> 01:45:26.399
and the horse ends up cooked literally, And this is
1809
01:45:26.439 --> 01:45:32.000
another foreshadowing obviously what's going to happen to Tony's luck. Tony's fortune,
1810
01:45:32.119 --> 01:45:35.199
Tony's luck is eventually going to run out. This is why,
1811
01:45:35.880 --> 01:45:39.840
you know when he's betting and gambling in season four
1812
01:45:39.880 --> 01:45:42.439
and five, he can't lose, like he's just it's everybody's
1813
01:45:42.520 --> 01:45:45.319
kind of amazed at his like he just puts the
1814
01:45:45.800 --> 01:45:50.119
tokens down and you knows he wins. Then by season six,
1815
01:45:50.399 --> 01:45:53.359
we have that important episode where he starts losing and
1816
01:45:53.399 --> 01:45:56.560
he actually loses a lot of money and bets. That's
1817
01:45:56.560 --> 01:45:59.600
another thing that's foreshadowing what's gonna happen to Tony, right,
1818
01:45:59.640 --> 01:46:04.680
This is on Tony's It's it's the final act of
1819
01:46:04.840 --> 01:46:09.520
Tony's story. By season six, then we have the war
1820
01:46:09.600 --> 01:46:13.119
with Johnny Sack and all of that. Johnny Sack basically
1821
01:46:13.319 --> 01:46:16.039
is the rival in the New York family to running
1822
01:46:16.079 --> 01:46:19.800
things with Carmine Jr. Carmeon Junior is kind of incompetent,
1823
01:46:19.920 --> 01:46:27.479
just kind of a goofball, but Tony can manipulate Carmine
1824
01:46:27.560 --> 01:46:30.960
Junior better than he can manipulate Johnny Sack. And so
1825
01:46:31.039 --> 01:46:33.920
this there's this rivalry, and as we know, it doesn't
1826
01:46:33.960 --> 01:46:36.960
go well for Johnny Sack. You even think that maybe
1827
01:46:37.000 --> 01:46:41.319
Johnny Sack will finally be Tony's downfall. Nope, he gets cancer,
1828
01:46:41.600 --> 01:46:45.239
ends up dead. So basically, at that point, when Johnny
1829
01:46:45.319 --> 01:46:50.680
Sack dies, Tony's won. There's nobody else to even come
1830
01:46:50.720 --> 01:46:53.279
against her stand against Tony. There's no more rivals, there's
1831
01:46:53.319 --> 01:46:56.720
no the battle is won. There's nobody else that can
1832
01:46:56.880 --> 01:47:00.520
can conceivably take Tony down. But that that's what's so
1833
01:47:00.560 --> 01:47:05.439
great about how he does fall is that it's a
1834
01:47:05.560 --> 01:47:10.640
random guy. You don't ever even expect. It's nobody, it's
1835
01:47:10.640 --> 01:47:15.119
nobody important, it's nobody powerful. It's just some really pissed
1836
01:47:15.159 --> 01:47:21.760
off guy. Basically, let's see what else. Tony has a
1837
01:47:21.800 --> 01:47:24.680
really interesting dream where he meets with people that he's
1838
01:47:24.760 --> 01:47:33.560
killed Ralphie Pussy, and he sees the caterpillar and the
1839
01:47:33.680 --> 01:47:38.800
transformation to the butterfly. The caterpillars, i think, crawling on
1840
01:47:39.159 --> 01:47:43.239
Ralph's head and then it turns into it transforms into
1841
01:47:43.279 --> 01:47:48.359
the butterfly and so I think this is it's a
1842
01:47:48.560 --> 01:47:52.159
if it may not directly be an MK ultra monarch reference,
1843
01:47:53.279 --> 01:47:55.359
it's possible given the fact that the writers of the
1844
01:47:55.399 --> 01:47:59.279
show obviously do have awareness of the CIA's programs. The
1845
01:47:59.319 --> 01:48:03.520
CIA is reallylationship to the mafia. It's it's very possible
1846
01:48:03.520 --> 01:48:07.560
that they have a knowledge of Project Monarch. Perhaps there's
1847
01:48:07.600 --> 01:48:11.680
a Project Monarch element to Tony that's maybe not directly
1848
01:48:11.680 --> 01:48:14.920
being done by the CIA. But then again, maybe Tony
1849
01:48:15.119 --> 01:48:19.800
is in therapy, uh, and maybe he's been profiled as
1850
01:48:19.840 --> 01:48:24.439
somebody useful. Maybe the FEDS have Tony right in therapy
1851
01:48:24.520 --> 01:48:28.359
and and they've organized this right That's that's just speculating,
1852
01:48:28.359 --> 01:48:31.800
and that's never stated. I'm just saying that, who knows.
1853
01:48:32.119 --> 01:48:34.600
What do you think it means that Tony has this
1854
01:48:34.760 --> 01:48:37.800
dream where he sees the people that he's killed and
1855
01:48:37.840 --> 01:48:41.119
then he sees the caterpillar turning into the butterfly? Is it?
1856
01:48:41.159 --> 01:48:43.159
Is it? It is a monarch reference? Or is it
1857
01:48:43.239 --> 01:48:45.359
just symbolic? I mean, in a lot of cases in
1858
01:48:45.399 --> 01:48:50.680
literature or or imagery, monarchs are just the symbols of
1859
01:48:50.720 --> 01:48:53.920
people transforming that they're they're turning into something new. It's
1860
01:48:53.960 --> 01:48:56.479
the character turning over a new leaf. It's the character,
1861
01:48:57.680 --> 01:48:59.960
you know, coming to a new phase in his life, right,
1862
01:49:00.159 --> 01:49:03.880
And this does happen around this time where Tony has
1863
01:49:04.039 --> 01:49:08.079
his near death experience two or three. He gets shot
1864
01:49:08.119 --> 01:49:11.520
at the beginning of season six. He's in the coma
1865
01:49:11.520 --> 01:49:16.000
for several episodes, and then there's the sequence of several
1866
01:49:16.000 --> 01:49:20.000
episodes where Tony is in the in between. He's in
1867
01:49:20.039 --> 01:49:26.520
this ether, quasi purgatory, realm of the dead middle. We
1868
01:49:26.560 --> 01:49:29.800
don't know exactly where it is, but Tony's having to
1869
01:49:29.840 --> 01:49:32.039
try to figure his way out of this labyrinth that
1870
01:49:32.079 --> 01:49:35.439
he's stuck in, in this half dead, half awake state.
1871
01:49:36.880 --> 01:49:37.359
What do you think?
1872
01:49:40.680 --> 01:49:41.640
Yeah, what else do you got?
1873
01:49:43.279 --> 01:49:45.279
This is where we start realizing that the therapy's not
1874
01:49:45.359 --> 01:49:53.119
really doing anything, the Prozac's not doing anything. The Satan
1875
01:49:53.439 --> 01:49:55.760
there's something some reference to Satan but I can't read my.
1876
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Note episode Yeah, but that was actually kind of just
1877
01:49:59.640 --> 01:50:03.079
a joke, remember, because they did a quote seance and
1878
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aj played a joke on Video's kid No, I.
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Can't read that note something Janice satan oh Janis plays
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the Ouiji board joke where she she instant messages the
1881
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kids and pretends she's Satan. That was funny. That's it
1882
01:50:22.560 --> 01:50:25.239
where Janis is a Satan character. But even though it's
1883
01:50:25.279 --> 01:50:31.960
a joke, what's interesting is that Aj, Janice, Tony, Carmela,
1884
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they all sort of exhibit a lot of traits and
1885
01:50:34.680 --> 01:50:38.760
characteristics of being evil in a lot of ways. Not
1886
01:50:38.920 --> 01:50:42.960
totally evil, but they're definitely an evil family. You could say,
1887
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Tony dreams that he is the that he's his grandfather
1888
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looking for work. And the reason that I think that's
1889
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important is that that's kind of hitting at the possibility
1890
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of this being a Ulysses type situation James Joyce reincarnation.
1891
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Tony is seeing his grandfather's experience of being an immigrant,
1892
01:51:06.079 --> 01:51:09.239
poor with no money and walking around trying to find
1893
01:51:09.239 --> 01:51:12.159
a job. Because Tony tells the story to Aj, right,
1894
01:51:12.920 --> 01:51:16.800
and that's just showing that he is his ancestors, and
1895
01:51:16.840 --> 01:51:20.279
then who's his ancestors all the way back? Well, potentially
1896
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he is a reincarnated general. Maybe he's a Roman general.
1897
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And now I don't believe recarnation. I'm just saying that
1898
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from a literary perspective, this is common in literature.
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01:51:29.720 --> 01:51:33.000
I think it's interesting that Tony's son turns out to
1900
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be a sensitive kid and there's no way that AJ
1901
01:51:37.960 --> 01:51:43.000
could ever take Tony's place. He's taken on his depression
1902
01:51:44.640 --> 01:51:50.239
in all of his psychological problems, but he doesn't have
1903
01:51:50.279 --> 01:51:53.800
any of Tony's grit exactly.
1904
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He's the antithesis to Tony. He's the failed heir apparent.
1905
01:51:59.800 --> 01:52:04.960
He has no intelligence and he has no courage. AJ
1906
01:52:05.239 --> 01:52:11.840
is terrified, mainly terrified of Tony, right, And this is
1907
01:52:11.920 --> 01:52:13.479
the sense in which we see the sins of the
1908
01:52:13.520 --> 01:52:16.520
father passed on to the to the child, because when
1909
01:52:16.560 --> 01:52:19.920
Tony's in therapy, he bitches about the fact that, you know,
1910
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all the ways that his parents failed him, and he's
1911
01:52:22.960 --> 01:52:24.960
totally oblivious throughout his life to the way that he
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fails AJ and Meadow. Next comes really important literary references.
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So we have Heloe's and Abelard, we have Sons Zoo,
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we have Animal Farm being referenced and Lord of the Flies,
1915
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and then we have Cold Mountain. So remember, all of
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the literary references in the show are very important to
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01:52:43.600 --> 01:52:46.880
understanding what kind of a show and what kind of
1918
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a tragedy this is. Okay, so something like animal Form,
1919
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we know that this is about, you know, control, it's
1920
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about It's similar to nineteen eighty four. It's you know,
1921
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the it's a New World Order critique kind of you
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know work from orwell. It was very famously printed and
1923
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published by the CIA during the Cold War. A j
1924
01:53:05.600 --> 01:53:07.439
has to read this Lord of the Flies. We know
1925
01:53:07.479 --> 01:53:11.600
that's about the law of the jungle versus uh, the
1926
01:53:11.720 --> 01:53:14.359
law of being ruled by law and order?
1927
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Right?
1928
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Is it going to be might makes right? Or is
1929
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it going to be a constitution law, law and order? Uh,
1930
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you know, rule by law Cold Mountain. I mean I
1931
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didn't read that. That's like a boomer mom book. I'm
1932
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not going to read. But I remember it being about,
1933
01:53:30.880 --> 01:53:33.439
you know, the Civil War, and it has to do
1934
01:53:33.560 --> 01:53:39.279
with you know, dying and love, love death, waiting on
1935
01:53:39.319 --> 01:53:42.239
a lover. Yeah, so that could you could see that
1936
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as just another tragedy, isn't it a tragedy? Doesn't somebody
1937
01:53:44.840 --> 01:53:54.479
and I'm dead? Carmela begins to cheat or she actually does. Well,
1938
01:53:54.560 --> 01:53:57.199
they're they're kind of split up. I don't think they
1939
01:53:57.359 --> 01:54:01.359
ever get divorced. But she finds uh a guide AJ's
1940
01:54:01.359 --> 01:54:04.119
admissions guidance counselor guy, and they have a brief fling
1941
01:54:04.159 --> 01:54:09.800
and that's where we get the helloas Abelard reference. Then
1942
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we start getting the references to attention deficit disorder IBS,
1943
01:54:14.319 --> 01:54:18.880
irritable bal syndrome, new diagnoses that were new at the
1944
01:54:18.880 --> 01:54:23.399
time early two thousands popping up once again. Tony has
1945
01:54:23.439 --> 01:54:26.920
another dream sequence where he sees the dead. He sees
1946
01:54:26.960 --> 01:54:32.039
Carmine sr. Carmine Senor says, I'm worried about the man upstairs.
1947
01:54:32.239 --> 01:54:35.760
So there's the direct reference to God. And then Tony,
1948
01:54:35.960 --> 01:54:40.359
in this really wild surrealist dream sequence, sees himself on
1949
01:54:40.520 --> 01:54:45.119
TV as a TV show. So there's a meta fourth
1950
01:54:45.319 --> 01:54:48.359
wall break where Tony is watching Tony on a TV
1951
01:54:48.439 --> 01:54:57.039
show and then we see a, uh, there's Carmela in
1952
01:54:57.119 --> 01:55:00.279
this sequence is watching a TV show for get what
1953
01:55:00.359 --> 01:55:02.640
it changes to something like France or something, and this
1954
01:55:02.920 --> 01:55:10.079
presignifies who are going to France. I think the dream
1955
01:55:10.359 --> 01:55:13.800
is a premonition something bad is going to happen, right,
1956
01:55:13.840 --> 01:55:16.039
So that's what's said in this dream. Then we have
1957
01:55:16.079 --> 01:55:21.159
the opening sequence that's very interesting about Egyptian mythology, Egyptology,
1958
01:55:21.560 --> 01:55:24.640
the Seven Souls of the Egyptian after life and death
1959
01:55:26.239 --> 01:55:30.760
ka Bah. These different references to Egyptology. This is the
1960
01:55:30.840 --> 01:55:34.000
key to what I'm talking about. This is the esoteric
1961
01:55:34.079 --> 01:55:37.479
significance of the whole show. It's giving you that old
1962
01:55:37.560 --> 01:55:44.399
school transmigration of souls James Joyce Ulysses kind of analysis. Again,
1963
01:55:44.680 --> 01:55:47.840
that's common to the ancient Greek mind. Read Plato's Republic.
1964
01:55:48.119 --> 01:55:52.079
He teaches reincarnation, transmigration of souls. That's Socrates, that's Plato,
1965
01:55:52.319 --> 01:55:57.840
that's the Greeks. Presumably other Roman literature as well, probably Virgil.
1966
01:55:57.880 --> 01:56:01.359
I'm trying to remember if the India has reincarnation. Probably
1967
01:56:02.399 --> 01:56:04.039
it's been a long time, so looked that they needed.
1968
01:56:04.079 --> 01:56:07.279
But the point is that that same idea is also
1969
01:56:07.439 --> 01:56:12.319
in ancient Egyptian philosophy and theology. Egyptology also has these
1970
01:56:12.359 --> 01:56:16.119
ideas as well. I think that's the meaning of that sequence.
1971
01:56:16.159 --> 01:56:18.920
That's really weird where you have the episode that opens
1972
01:56:18.960 --> 01:56:22.479
with why would you have an episode opening with Egyptology?
1973
01:56:23.119 --> 01:56:25.359
I mean that's just like what, right. I don't think
1974
01:56:25.399 --> 01:56:27.880
most people would have gotten this unless you knew kind
1975
01:56:27.920 --> 01:56:34.039
of about esoteric type of stuff. I made a joke
1976
01:56:34.039 --> 01:56:37.000
about or I was thinking of Tony as Dougie, right
1977
01:56:37.479 --> 01:56:40.239
when Tony's in the dream world. No, it's when he
1978
01:56:40.279 --> 01:56:42.720
first comes out of his coma, right when he's had
1979
01:56:42.760 --> 01:56:45.279
his near death experience. He comes back and he's like
1980
01:56:45.359 --> 01:56:50.760
Dougie in season three or twin Peaks. Then we get
1981
01:56:52.560 --> 01:56:55.359
the fall of Junior. Junior in is up with dementia.
1982
01:56:57.079 --> 01:56:59.720
The Junior episode is the key. So let's remember that
1983
01:56:59.760 --> 01:57:02.600
by season six, we're now starting to get where the
1984
01:57:02.600 --> 01:57:07.239
whole show is going. We see in season actually season six,
1985
01:57:07.319 --> 01:57:09.600
episode one is the key to the whole end of
1986
01:57:09.640 --> 01:57:12.560
the show, to the finale, and to all of season six,
1987
01:57:13.159 --> 01:57:18.399
because Junior, with dementia grabs the gun thinks Tony is
1988
01:57:18.439 --> 01:57:21.279
an intruder. Because Junior is basically living in another time,
1989
01:57:22.119 --> 01:57:24.920
he thinks it's the sixties, and so he thinks that
1990
01:57:24.960 --> 01:57:28.840
all these you know, old whatever operations and scams they
1991
01:57:28.840 --> 01:57:33.359
were doing in the sixties is happening now. This this
1992
01:57:35.600 --> 01:57:39.399
mental state of Junior basically going back in time. This
1993
01:57:39.439 --> 01:57:43.760
is another reference to this whole idea of reincarnation. It's
1994
01:57:43.880 --> 01:57:47.479
the fact that Junior is living in another time because
1995
01:57:47.560 --> 01:57:52.560
actually the other characters are just it's an eternal return.
1996
01:57:52.600 --> 01:57:57.279
They're representing the tragedies of the ancient world. It's all
1997
01:57:57.399 --> 01:58:01.840
just recurring. That's the whole philosophy here, that's the Egyptian philosophy.
1998
01:58:01.840 --> 01:58:03.600
I think I think that's right. I'm not any expert
1999
01:58:03.640 --> 01:58:07.640
on Egyptology, but I think that's correct. If I'm wrong
2000
01:58:07.640 --> 01:58:11.520
about Egyptology and the seven souls of the Egyptian after
2001
01:58:11.560 --> 01:58:13.800
life and death and after life, somebody can correct me
2002
01:58:13.840 --> 01:58:20.520
in the chat. But I think that's right. But where
2003
01:58:20.560 --> 01:58:24.800
was that going with? So episode one of season six,
2004
01:58:25.840 --> 01:58:30.359
Junior shoots Tony and it ends with Tony dying basically,
2005
01:58:30.840 --> 01:58:34.600
not totally, but going into this what you think is
2006
01:58:34.600 --> 01:58:36.840
his death. He lays there, the phones next to him,
2007
01:58:36.840 --> 01:58:39.279
he barely hits nine to one to one, and then
2008
01:58:39.560 --> 01:58:42.680
the camera comes down or up. I forget how it goes,
2009
01:58:42.720 --> 01:58:45.640
but you just see Tony laying there in blood, and
2010
01:58:45.640 --> 01:58:49.359
then you see Tony laying in the hospital bed. Those
2011
01:58:49.399 --> 01:58:52.920
are sequences that will tell you in the final episode
2012
01:58:52.960 --> 01:58:57.399
what's going to happen. It's a foreshadowing. It's a almost
2013
01:58:57.560 --> 01:59:01.880
death foreshadowing the death it Tony is going to die
2014
01:59:02.159 --> 01:59:05.159
the beginning. I think it's the beginning. This is spoiler alert.
2015
01:59:05.239 --> 01:59:09.479
The finale. It opens with Tony again laying in the
2016
01:59:09.479 --> 01:59:12.439
bed asleep, and some music is playing, some weird music.
2017
01:59:12.479 --> 01:59:14.960
I forget what it is. In the Goofy Organs or
2018
01:59:14.960 --> 01:59:19.600
something that he hears, and that's foreshadowing that. Again, that
2019
01:59:19.800 --> 01:59:24.680
death imagery is like sleep. It's just like season six,
2020
01:59:24.760 --> 01:59:28.920
episode one, Sleep and Death right all telling you what's
2021
01:59:28.920 --> 01:59:34.600
going to happen. A couple side points. There's more literary
2022
01:59:34.640 --> 01:59:38.359
references here that will tell you that Tony's gonna die,
2023
01:59:39.720 --> 01:59:42.920
and not just Tony but also a Jan Cremelo. This is,
2024
01:59:42.960 --> 01:59:45.119
of course the disputed point, but I think it's if you,
2025
01:59:45.199 --> 01:59:47.399
if you really think about this, it's not that hard
2026
01:59:47.439 --> 01:59:50.800
to figure out what's going on. But basically we're we're
2027
01:59:50.840 --> 01:59:53.159
gonna have to see the death of Christopher first. Tony's
2028
01:59:53.159 --> 01:59:57.319
going to finally kill off his main guy. And the
2029
01:59:57.399 --> 02:00:00.920
reason he does it is because Christopher has gotten back
2030
02:00:00.960 --> 02:00:04.279
into being an addict, right, He's back into doing heroin.
2031
02:00:04.680 --> 02:00:07.600
When Christopher wrecks the truck and almost kills them both,
2032
02:00:07.960 --> 02:00:12.119
it's because he was high and because Christopher wasn't wearing
2033
02:00:12.119 --> 02:00:14.399
a seat belt, which actually Tony had told him to.
2034
02:00:14.560 --> 02:00:19.520
But they roll over however many times, and Christopher is
2035
02:00:19.520 --> 02:00:25.760
basically bleeding out uh, and Tony realizes that he was high,
2036
02:00:25.840 --> 02:00:28.640
so he betrayed the promise that he would not go
2037
02:00:28.720 --> 02:00:32.039
back to Heroin. So Tony just grabs his nose right
2038
02:00:32.399 --> 02:00:35.960
and suffocates him, and then of course lies, you know,
2039
02:00:36.039 --> 02:00:38.920
oh it wasn't me, it was the Wrack blah blah blah.
2040
02:00:39.279 --> 02:00:43.359
So now basically Tony has committed his final act of
2041
02:00:43.479 --> 02:00:45.439
I guess you could say betrayal. I mean, even though
2042
02:00:45.439 --> 02:00:49.359
we know that in many ways Tony was forced to
2043
02:00:49.479 --> 02:00:53.560
kind of kill these people, there's still evil actions, right,
2044
02:00:53.560 --> 02:00:57.880
He's still this bringer of death. I think the key
2045
02:00:57.920 --> 02:01:01.720
to six ironically, in terms of what's gonna happen, there's
2046
02:01:01.720 --> 02:01:07.199
a couple of things that AJ does. AJ says, he
2047
02:01:07.239 --> 02:01:11.399
starts laying out these weird this sort of spouting out
2048
02:01:11.399 --> 02:01:14.439
stuff about geopolitics. It's very bizarre because AJ is a
2049
02:01:14.439 --> 02:01:18.199
complete idiot, and we think maybe AJ's realized he's an idiot,
2050
02:01:18.239 --> 02:01:20.640
and so he starts going and reading the news and
2051
02:01:20.640 --> 02:01:22.359
he starts trying to figure out in the Middle East.
2052
02:01:22.880 --> 02:01:24.159
We hear him talking about, well.
2053
02:01:24.079 --> 02:01:26.079
I sat in on these lectures about the Middle East,
2054
02:01:26.119 --> 02:01:28.960
and he's really weird and crazy that that kind of
2055
02:01:29.000 --> 02:01:29.880
crap's going on.
2056
02:01:30.000 --> 02:01:34.000
And then remember what AJ says, He says, I don't know,
2057
02:01:34.079 --> 02:01:35.760
I was thinking, like I could go be in the
2058
02:01:35.800 --> 02:01:38.640
Cia or something. I could go like fight the al
2059
02:01:38.720 --> 02:01:42.680
Qaeda And then He's like, and then after that, I
2060
02:01:42.680 --> 02:01:45.760
could like learn to fly helicopters, and I could be
2061
02:01:46.079 --> 02:01:50.039
Donald Trump's pilot. Tony's like, oh, is that right?
2062
02:01:50.119 --> 02:01:53.119
You're gonna go be the Donald's pilot? Is that after
2063
02:01:53.199 --> 02:01:58.159
you go fly over to Iraq and killoadas over there?
2064
02:01:58.840 --> 02:02:03.279
Tony just laughs at this because it's ludicrous. But there's
2065
02:02:03.359 --> 02:02:06.960
an irony that AJ has actually kind of figured out
2066
02:02:07.399 --> 02:02:13.520
some of the problem here. And AJ says America is
2067
02:02:13.760 --> 02:02:19.239
like this big consumerist thing, and he says, you guys
2068
02:02:19.319 --> 02:02:24.920
talking to the family represent the excessive materialism and consumerism
2069
02:02:25.000 --> 02:02:27.399
of America, and you guys are living in a dream
2070
02:02:27.439 --> 02:02:31.840
and a fantasy. And so the irony here that if
2071
02:02:31.880 --> 02:02:36.800
we were to use archetypes, AJ is the fool AJ Paully.
2072
02:02:37.439 --> 02:02:41.520
Those are full archetypes. They're idiots. But good literature will
2073
02:02:41.600 --> 02:02:46.680
usually have the idiot fool character have wisdom, right, because
2074
02:02:46.680 --> 02:02:50.000
he'll have a perspective as an idiot that nobody else sees.
2075
02:02:50.079 --> 02:02:54.680
Everybody else is missing the obvious. And so again AJ Paully,
2076
02:02:54.800 --> 02:02:57.399
the two fool characters are going to consistently have.
2077
02:02:57.479 --> 02:03:00.079
Insights it's like that meme where the low iq.
2078
02:03:01.479 --> 02:03:08.399
Exactly right, exactly exactly. Then we see Aja taking on
2079
02:03:08.479 --> 02:03:12.159
these you know, he gets really into justice in the geopolitics,
2080
02:03:12.199 --> 02:03:13.960
the Middle East and all this stuff, which he's not
2081
02:03:14.000 --> 02:03:17.000
necessarily wrong. A lot of what he starts reading about
2082
02:03:17.039 --> 02:03:19.039
he's kind of right about. And then he has that
2083
02:03:19.119 --> 02:03:23.279
big spill at the at Artie's Restaurant where he calls
2084
02:03:23.319 --> 02:03:26.159
their body hypocrites and he says Americanism as stupid. It's
2085
02:03:26.199 --> 02:03:28.920
a dream, It's going to end. And this is right
2086
02:03:28.960 --> 02:03:31.640
after the Big nine event, and in many ways AJ's correct.
2087
02:03:31.720 --> 02:03:36.439
Then we have Aj reading the Yates poem William Butler
2088
02:03:36.520 --> 02:03:43.239
Yates Golden Dawn BFF with Crowley, the famous anti Christ poem.
2089
02:03:44.600 --> 02:03:48.800
Now and maybe in a big deeper sense there's a
2090
02:03:48.960 --> 02:03:54.199
meaning which is esoteric on a in times level. I
2091
02:03:54.239 --> 02:03:55.960
don't really think that's what the show is going for.
2092
02:03:56.600 --> 02:03:59.000
I think that they've stuck the Yates poem in here
2093
02:04:01.119 --> 02:04:06.039
because it's the beast that slouches towards Bethlehem to be
2094
02:04:06.119 --> 02:04:10.399
born is signifying the end of Tony. This is another
2095
02:04:10.520 --> 02:04:14.039
ominous prediction and reference to the coming death of Tony.
2096
02:04:15.039 --> 02:04:17.920
Tony is a kind of Antichrist. Tony is a kind
2097
02:04:17.960 --> 02:04:28.600
of beast. He's consistently referred to like a beast. In
2098
02:04:28.720 --> 02:04:32.760
the Apocalypse of John, Nero is the beast. Nero is
2099
02:04:32.760 --> 02:04:35.039
the Roman Emperor, and so in a way we could
2100
02:04:35.039 --> 02:04:37.920
almost see Tony like a kind of Roman emperor. And
2101
02:04:38.039 --> 02:04:43.880
Tony is going to meet his demise. Obviously in these
2102
02:04:44.039 --> 02:04:51.000
ominous prophetic warnings. I can't read that note something versus.
2103
02:04:53.359 --> 02:04:53.600
Deep.
2104
02:04:54.560 --> 02:05:00.319
I don't know what this says. Something big is coming. Yeah,
2105
02:05:00.359 --> 02:05:04.319
that's the reference to the Yates poem. Is that we
2106
02:05:04.439 --> 02:05:07.239
get the impressions something has come. It's the end times
2107
02:05:07.960 --> 02:05:12.079
for Tony. That's what it means. And then we have
2108
02:05:12.199 --> 02:05:18.920
the reference to uh, is this the last page? I
2109
02:05:18.960 --> 02:05:21.920
thought I had another page of notes about Tony doing acid.
2110
02:05:21.960 --> 02:05:24.920
Now that the acid sequence or the Peyote sequence is
2111
02:05:24.920 --> 02:05:30.039
important because it's another indicator of Tony seeing the beyond.
2112
02:05:30.600 --> 02:05:32.800
So when he goes to Vegas to party and he
2113
02:05:32.840 --> 02:05:37.439
does payote, he it's almost like his after death experience
2114
02:05:37.479 --> 02:05:40.920
where he says, has this revelation. Then he goes back
2115
02:05:40.960 --> 02:05:43.439
and he tells the psychiat you have it in the Peyotes.
2116
02:05:44.439 --> 02:05:48.439
Yeah, I'll tell you right now, do here This ain't
2117
02:05:48.439 --> 02:05:52.359
old a rich, this ain't ash. When I've done the pots.
2118
02:05:52.640 --> 02:05:53.399
I've seen it.
2119
02:05:53.399 --> 02:05:55.720
It's more an ish, It's more than a dish.
2120
02:05:55.800 --> 02:05:58.560
So Tony has seen that there is more than just
2121
02:05:58.600 --> 02:06:00.800
the here and the now. And so in a sense
2122
02:06:00.840 --> 02:06:05.760
again that Peyoti vision is an indicator of his coming death.
2123
02:06:06.720 --> 02:06:09.520
He's about to experience and meet that there's more than this.
2124
02:06:10.920 --> 02:06:15.159
And then we have the important reference to the CIA
2125
02:06:15.680 --> 02:06:19.359
working with the mafia in season six, in the last episode,
2126
02:06:19.760 --> 02:06:22.840
I think it's like it's either the right last couple,
2127
02:06:22.880 --> 02:06:25.399
but the FBI agent that is kind of, you know,
2128
02:06:25.960 --> 02:06:29.439
talking to Tony and trying to kind of butter him
2129
02:06:29.520 --> 02:06:32.000
up and get some info from him. He says, well,
2130
02:06:32.039 --> 02:06:36.239
you know, Tony, look, why don't you come tell us
2131
02:06:36.239 --> 02:06:38.880
some stuff? You know, come work with us. Look, he says,
2132
02:06:39.359 --> 02:06:44.680
your people hid and worked with the CIA when you
2133
02:06:44.720 --> 02:06:49.840
guys were hiding Lucky Luciano, right, And so the FBI
2134
02:06:49.920 --> 02:06:54.239
is consciously kind of drawing on that old CIA mafia alliance.
2135
02:06:54.279 --> 02:06:58.199
It's specifically mentioned does he do ayahuasca or is it Paoti?
2136
02:06:58.279 --> 02:07:01.000
I don't remember whatever I mean. He he has a
2137
02:07:01.159 --> 02:07:07.239
serious intense trip that he references to seeing the beyond
2138
02:07:07.319 --> 02:07:13.399
the spiritual world, the afterlife. So no, so people are saying, yes,
2139
02:07:13.520 --> 02:07:16.079
I assure you, if you go watch the show and
2140
02:07:16.079 --> 02:07:19.159
you pay attention to all these references, you're going to
2141
02:07:19.239 --> 02:07:21.600
find that this is all there. I mean that they're
2142
02:07:21.640 --> 02:07:25.800
not just referencing Egyptian the Journey of the Soul after
2143
02:07:26.039 --> 02:07:31.680
after death, William Butler yeats is Chrolean poem or whatever.
2144
02:07:31.920 --> 02:07:33.800
I mean. This is in there on purpose. This is
2145
02:07:33.840 --> 02:07:38.119
not accidental. They're not constantly referencing the CIA's connection to
2146
02:07:38.159 --> 02:07:42.800
the mafia for no reason. It's there intentionally, okay. And
2147
02:07:42.800 --> 02:07:45.439
I assure you, if you go take graduate lit classes,
2148
02:07:45.880 --> 02:07:49.039
they're going to talk to you about the prevalence of
2149
02:07:49.079 --> 02:07:52.439
eternal return. If you do Joyce Ulysses, they're going to
2150
02:07:52.479 --> 02:07:57.960
talk about reincarnation. So the book's about. So that's what
2151
02:07:58.000 --> 02:08:02.680
the Sopranos is about. It's an intent to tell a
2152
02:08:02.880 --> 02:08:09.359
tragedy dramedy story that's like great literature and references all
2153
02:08:09.399 --> 02:08:13.960
that great literature on all of these different levels. And
2154
02:08:14.279 --> 02:08:18.399
it executed it perfectly. And by the way, just to
2155
02:08:18.720 --> 02:08:23.239
sum up here, as we come to the clothes, it's
2156
02:08:23.279 --> 02:08:27.840
pretty I did not look at other analyzes before I
2157
02:08:28.000 --> 02:08:33.760
formed my opinion of the finale. I watched very closely,
2158
02:08:33.840 --> 02:08:36.479
and I had taken copious notes throughout the show, so
2159
02:08:36.520 --> 02:08:41.359
I was looking for symbols, patterns, recurring things, clues, and yes,
2160
02:08:41.720 --> 02:08:45.319
the clue, what do we say the jacket? The jacket
2161
02:08:45.439 --> 02:08:49.399
was the clue that Richie you know, gave to Tony
2162
02:08:49.479 --> 02:08:52.199
or whatever. And then what do we get in the
2163
02:08:52.199 --> 02:08:56.840
final sequence as they enter into the diner. The guy
2164
02:08:56.920 --> 02:08:59.960
in the member's only jacket. It's the same gray members
2165
02:09:00.159 --> 02:09:03.079
only jacket that Gino had. Gino is the guy that
2166
02:09:03.119 --> 02:09:07.359
Tony screwed over. We know that Tony's gonna die because
2167
02:09:07.359 --> 02:09:10.960
of season six, episode one, which foreshadows the finale. We
2168
02:09:11.039 --> 02:09:14.039
know that Tony is dying again. Obviously if you if
2169
02:09:14.079 --> 02:09:17.239
you read other people's analysis, this became very clear because
2170
02:09:17.439 --> 02:09:21.199
when Tony is talking to who's the fat guy that
2171
02:09:21.319 --> 02:09:24.359
ends up with Jennis? Bobby Bobby and they're out on
2172
02:09:24.399 --> 02:09:28.960
the boat and Bobby says, I think it's like, you know,
2173
02:09:30.000 --> 02:09:33.720
you don't hear nothing. You just you go black, You
2174
02:09:33.720 --> 02:09:37.159
don't hear nothing, and Tony's Tony is sitting there and
2175
02:09:37.159 --> 02:09:38.720
he hears him say this, and he thinks about it
2176
02:09:38.760 --> 02:09:43.560
and then Tony remembers Syl explaining that when he was
2177
02:09:43.560 --> 02:09:46.239
out at dinner and somebody came in and shot the
2178
02:09:46.239 --> 02:09:50.600
person he was with, Sill says, I didn't hear nothing.
2179
02:09:50.760 --> 02:09:54.039
You don't hear nothing. It's like it goes black.
2180
02:09:54.399 --> 02:09:57.399
You see a you see a blash, a flash.
2181
02:09:57.039 --> 02:10:02.439
Of light, and then afterwards you hear so And the
2182
02:10:02.479 --> 02:10:05.560
way that episode was shot is that the gun goes
2183
02:10:05.600 --> 02:10:09.279
off and then you hear it. So they wanted you
2184
02:10:09.560 --> 02:10:12.520
to have that vantage point that still had in that episode.
2185
02:10:12.960 --> 02:10:15.680
They wanted you to pay attention to the member's only jacket.
2186
02:10:16.039 --> 02:10:19.039
And it's not Geno that kills because Geno commits suicide.
2187
02:10:19.600 --> 02:10:24.960
So presumably this guy with Gino's gray members only jacket, right,
2188
02:10:25.840 --> 02:10:30.760
that's his brother, some relative that's furious that Tony is
2189
02:10:30.800 --> 02:10:34.680
the reason his brother killed himself. Or presumably he thinks
2190
02:10:34.760 --> 02:10:35.680
that Tony killed.
2191
02:10:35.479 --> 02:10:39.880
The guy, right, Because season six, he's got all these
2192
02:10:39.960 --> 02:10:46.640
landlines that he has to navigate, and he presumably comes
2193
02:10:46.640 --> 02:10:51.640
out on top at the end, But he has not
2194
02:10:52.560 --> 02:10:58.000
improved his soul. He hasn't repented of anything. He went
2195
02:10:58.039 --> 02:11:00.199
back to his cheating, he went back to lying, start
2196
02:11:00.199 --> 02:11:00.920
to killing people.
2197
02:11:04.359 --> 02:11:08.119
Yes, don't forget too, uh, Polly. Polly is key to
2198
02:11:08.199 --> 02:11:12.439
understanding the last episode, ironically, because Polly has the vision
2199
02:11:12.520 --> 02:11:16.039
of Mary in the strip club. I sink the virgin stript,
2200
02:11:16.880 --> 02:11:19.199
I tell you, Tea. I don't tell nobody this usually,
2201
02:11:19.600 --> 02:11:21.840
but I sink the Virgin Mary. I seen them in
2202
02:11:21.880 --> 02:11:25.520
the club and the butto being on My Life, tea,
2203
02:11:26.119 --> 02:11:29.199
I've seen it. So he sees Mary and this is
2204
02:11:29.239 --> 02:11:32.760
an omen and it freaks Paulie out. That's not at
2205
02:11:32.800 --> 02:11:35.000
the last up, it's but later on. And then Polly
2206
02:11:35.079 --> 02:11:39.640
sees this cat and the cat stares at Christopher, the
2207
02:11:39.680 --> 02:11:44.279
picture of Christopher in their little restaurant room there and
2208
02:11:44.319 --> 02:11:46.520
if and Paulie's really superstitious, and he's.
2209
02:11:46.399 --> 02:11:48.600
Like, get rid of that cat. I don't like that cat.
2210
02:11:48.640 --> 02:11:50.039
I don't like cats. I don't like that cat.
2211
02:11:50.039 --> 02:11:52.119
I'm gonna kill that cat. And they're all at that
2212
02:11:52.680 --> 02:11:54.279
leave it a cat alone. I like that cat.
2213
02:11:54.399 --> 02:11:54.960
Leave him alone.
2214
02:11:54.960 --> 02:11:57.239
He's just looking at a picture. He's so superstitious were
2215
02:11:57.279 --> 02:11:59.119
talking about, and he's I'm gonna kill that cat.
2216
02:11:59.119 --> 02:11:59.319
Tea.
2217
02:11:59.560 --> 02:12:01.840
I sweat got him, gonna call that kit tea And
2218
02:12:02.319 --> 02:12:06.319
the cat walks out in the last sequence, and Polly
2219
02:12:06.399 --> 02:12:06.960
looks at.
2220
02:12:06.800 --> 02:12:09.640
It, and he knows it's an omen. He's like, something bait,
2221
02:12:09.640 --> 02:12:12.560
It's gonna happen. That cat, something bait, it's gonna happen.
2222
02:12:12.560 --> 02:12:16.319
I'm telling you tea, Tony's gonna get killed. Now, why
2223
02:12:16.359 --> 02:12:18.880
would there be a sequence of the Omen of the
2224
02:12:18.920 --> 02:12:23.279
Cat if nothing bad happens. Obviously, something bad happens in
2225
02:12:23.359 --> 02:12:27.439
the last sequence, and when Tony walks in and the
2226
02:12:28.479 --> 02:12:29.119
guy who.
2227
02:12:28.960 --> 02:12:31.479
Did the show or the whoever produced that director of
2228
02:12:31.479 --> 02:12:34.680
the final episode talks about the fact that they intentionally
2229
02:12:34.720 --> 02:12:37.119
wanted it to be like two thousand and one, where
2230
02:12:37.159 --> 02:12:42.800
Bowman sees he dissociates, he sees himself. When Tony walks
2231
02:12:42.840 --> 02:12:46.600
into the diner, Tony's standing in the doorway, he sees
2232
02:12:46.720 --> 02:12:50.720
himself sitting at the other end of the restaurant, looking
2233
02:12:50.760 --> 02:12:54.199
back at himself. The director says, I intentionally wanted that
2234
02:12:54.239 --> 02:12:56.479
to be like the sequence in two thousand and one
2235
02:12:56.520 --> 02:13:00.199
with Bowman seeing himself in these different phases of his life.
2236
02:13:00.520 --> 02:13:03.520
Tony is dissociating, he's seeing himself, he's seeing that he's
2237
02:13:03.560 --> 02:13:06.960
about to die, but he doesn't exactly know how this
2238
02:13:07.000 --> 02:13:08.640
is gonna go down. So he goes and he sits
2239
02:13:08.640 --> 02:13:13.119
down the dings of the door obviously are the key, Like,
2240
02:13:13.159 --> 02:13:15.520
these dings have no meaning if nobody's gonna get killed.
2241
02:13:16.159 --> 02:13:18.880
But the ding is telling you that every time Tony
2242
02:13:18.920 --> 02:13:21.680
hears a ding, he's got to look up because it
2243
02:13:21.720 --> 02:13:24.560
could be somebody walking into killing. This is the life
2244
02:13:24.600 --> 02:13:29.079
that Tony's lived. And so the whole point of the
2245
02:13:29.199 --> 02:13:33.239
parking sequence with Meadow is because it's telling you that
2246
02:13:33.399 --> 02:13:38.359
Meadow is missing. Luckily, she's about to miss this bad
2247
02:13:38.720 --> 02:13:44.000
ultimate end times that's coming. So yes, the guy in
2248
02:13:43.760 --> 02:13:47.319
the member's only jacket gets up walks into the bathroom.
2249
02:13:47.439 --> 02:13:50.560
Why is he going into the bathroom? Because what does
2250
02:13:51.039 --> 02:13:56.560
AJ say to Tony? Tony, he says, Dad, Dad, Your
2251
02:13:56.600 --> 02:14:00.199
favorite scene in The Godfather is when Michael Corleone.
2252
02:13:59.640 --> 02:14:02.760
Gets to go get the gun in the bathroom.
2253
02:14:03.199 --> 02:14:05.920
That's obviously the key. If you've watched The godfel you
2254
02:14:05.960 --> 02:14:09.119
know it. AJ tells Tony that they've watched the movie
2255
02:14:09.119 --> 02:14:12.199
a thousand times and it's Tony's favorite scene. That's how
2256
02:14:12.239 --> 02:14:14.800
Tony's gonna die. The guy in the member's only jacket
2257
02:14:14.840 --> 02:14:17.880
is going into the bathroom just like The Godfather. It's obvious, right,
2258
02:14:18.520 --> 02:14:22.439
And then of course the whole point of the final sequence, obviously,
2259
02:14:22.640 --> 02:14:26.000
is that it goes black because he doesn't hear it,
2260
02:14:27.199 --> 02:14:29.800
and he doesn't hear it because of what Sill and
2261
02:14:29.880 --> 02:14:31.800
Bobby told him. I don't think you even hear it
2262
02:14:31.840 --> 02:14:35.199
when it happens, you just go black, right, And that's
2263
02:14:35.239 --> 02:14:38.560
why the ding of the door is Meadow not being
2264
02:14:38.600 --> 02:14:44.119
shot and presumably Carmela and Aj being killed. So Tony, Carmela,
2265
02:14:44.199 --> 02:14:47.760
and Aj all end up dead, and it's clear that
2266
02:14:47.840 --> 02:14:52.720
a Meadow has for whatever reason, avoided this because I
2267
02:14:52.800 --> 02:14:54.600
don't know. I mean, you could argue why she's not.
2268
02:14:54.920 --> 02:14:56.840
Is it just fate? Is it just chance? Is it
2269
02:14:56.880 --> 02:15:00.520
because she was the first to realize it was all problem.
2270
02:15:00.600 --> 02:15:06.600
Maybe because she got a legitimate job and didn't choose
2271
02:15:06.640 --> 02:15:07.439
a life of crime.
2272
02:15:07.720 --> 02:15:09.680
Well there was another Yeah, in the last season, there's
2273
02:15:09.680 --> 02:15:11.760
an important sequence where she gets drunk. Do you remember
2274
02:15:11.760 --> 02:15:15.239
that she has her drunken breakdown at when they're all
2275
02:15:15.279 --> 02:15:20.119
singing songs and she starts she's no, they're at the restaurant,
2276
02:15:20.119 --> 02:15:24.439
and she starts throwing things. Okay, but they're at the restaurant, yeah,
2277
02:15:24.479 --> 02:15:28.399
and she's she's throwing things that Junior when he's singing, right,
2278
02:15:28.520 --> 02:15:31.239
And then she gets up and has her drunken tell
2279
02:15:31.279 --> 02:15:34.279
them all off. But what she says is true, right,
2280
02:15:34.399 --> 02:15:39.199
So so maybe because she saw what was true and
2281
02:15:39.319 --> 02:15:43.279
acted on it, and she she remembers, she distances herself,
2282
02:15:43.960 --> 02:15:45.960
she moves out of the house, she goes off, she
2283
02:15:46.000 --> 02:15:47.760
wants to be at college. She wants to be away
2284
02:15:47.760 --> 02:15:52.239
from them. She goes to California, not even because he
2285
02:15:52.279 --> 02:15:56.159
really likes that guy, it's to get away. So maybe
2286
02:15:56.199 --> 02:16:00.760
she's spared because the impetus for most of the show
2287
02:16:01.479 --> 02:16:03.199
on the part of Meadow is to get out of
2288
02:16:03.239 --> 02:16:05.159
that lifestyle and to get away from her family. Even
2289
02:16:05.199 --> 02:16:07.920
though she loves her family, she knows deep down that
2290
02:16:07.960 --> 02:16:10.920
this is wrong. They're all wrong. There's something seriously wrong
2291
02:16:10.960 --> 02:16:13.840
with his family, but she can't get them to admit it.
2292
02:16:14.399 --> 02:16:17.800
And aj even though he also kind of starts to
2293
02:16:17.800 --> 02:16:21.159
realize this, he's just an idiot. He doesn't do anything
2294
02:16:21.880 --> 02:16:24.279
to make a change or to get out of this.
2295
02:16:24.600 --> 02:16:30.439
He just is there. He's like a rock. So I
2296
02:16:30.479 --> 02:16:33.040
think there may be a couple of the details that
2297
02:16:33.079 --> 02:16:36.200
I'm forgetting. Remember the horse getting burned. I mean, basically,
2298
02:16:36.280 --> 02:16:39.360
anything that Tony does find an attachment to ends up dead.
2299
02:16:40.040 --> 02:16:41.680
I don't think the bear ends up dead, but the
2300
02:16:41.680 --> 02:16:45.639
Baron never comes back. But there's other clues I'm sure
2301
02:16:45.639 --> 02:16:50.639
that I'm missing. And when it comes to what may
2302
02:16:50.680 --> 02:16:54.879
have been the reason for Tony being killed, some people,
2303
02:16:54.920 --> 02:17:00.520
I think speculate that maybe the Member's only guy Gino
2304
02:17:00.680 --> 02:17:05.000
had been flipped and the members only jacket guy. I
2305
02:17:05.040 --> 02:17:08.040
think there's a statement made to Gino that you're the
2306
02:17:08.159 --> 02:17:12.360
FBI's top hitter now, so maybe they had turned Geno,
2307
02:17:12.600 --> 02:17:15.840
or maybe this is an FBI hit on Tony. I
2308
02:17:15.840 --> 02:17:20.360
don't know. You could speculate that The only other plausible
2309
02:17:20.760 --> 02:17:25.520
sort of theory is that Tony's not killed. It's just
2310
02:17:25.639 --> 02:17:30.600
giving you the sequence the experience of Tony that at
2311
02:17:30.600 --> 02:17:33.719
every moment he does fear for his life. I don't
2312
02:17:33.760 --> 02:17:36.239
buy that. I mean, there's all of these clues throughout
2313
02:17:36.319 --> 02:17:39.280
the rest of the show in season six that are
2314
02:17:39.319 --> 02:17:41.239
obviously telling you that Tony's killed.
2315
02:17:41.280 --> 02:17:41.920
I don't think.
2316
02:17:42.079 --> 02:17:45.360
I mean, it's ludicrous to say that he's not. What's
2317
02:17:45.399 --> 02:17:48.680
the point of the whole sequence of Meadow not being
2318
02:17:48.760 --> 02:17:52.440
able to park on time? If Tony's not killed, that's
2319
02:17:52.479 --> 02:17:55.040
the whole point of that sequence. There's no other reason
2320
02:17:55.079 --> 02:17:59.840
for that. Obviously right, because it's she's narrowly missing getting killed,
2321
02:18:00.040 --> 02:18:02.680
would have been sitting right next to Tony and that
2322
02:18:02.879 --> 02:18:05.319
you know, presumably the bullet would have hit her or
2323
02:18:05.520 --> 02:18:08.120
he would have shot again all four members of the family.
2324
02:18:08.680 --> 02:18:19.440
So yes, that's my analysis. There you go. So it's
2325
02:18:19.520 --> 02:18:23.079
a tragedy. It's a tragedy comedy deals with all the
2326
02:18:23.079 --> 02:18:25.799
big questions in life, all the great big literature questions.
2327
02:18:26.799 --> 02:18:34.600
Ultimately it's still a pagan, psychoanalytical union eternal return psychodrama.
2328
02:18:35.920 --> 02:18:38.040
But still if you look at it from a literary
2329
02:18:38.079 --> 02:18:41.920
perspective and from a cultural perspective, and from just as
2330
02:18:41.920 --> 02:18:43.920
an artistic piece, it's a masterpiece.
2331
02:18:44.959 --> 02:18:52.159
And it was so realistic that real mobsters would watch
2332
02:18:52.200 --> 02:18:54.520
it and they thought that somebody from the inside was
2333
02:18:54.559 --> 02:18:59.159
feeding the show information because it was really.
2334
02:19:01.079 --> 02:19:02.920
Well. As I said, some of the articles I read
2335
02:19:02.959 --> 02:19:05.879
on it did speculate that it was based on the
2336
02:19:06.079 --> 02:19:10.239
the Cavalcante family. So I'm sure, again, I don't I
2337
02:19:10.239 --> 02:19:14.120
haven't looked into what they were specifically, you know, all
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the writers were going to but I wouldn't be surprised.
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I mean, I'm sure. I mean, it's just like when
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Mario Puzzo did the Godfather novel. He went and just
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collected real stories and just kind of kind of, you know,
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composited it. So I don't doubt that at all. I
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mean we saw that with Godfather three. I mean that
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the you know, the Godfather three gets into the p
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two lodge, the Mafia working with the CIA working, you know,
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the relationship with the Vatican, John Paul the first being assassinated.
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Oh that's real, that's all true, you know, historic fact.
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Godfather three, the movie even gets into the Vatican banking
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scandal with Roberto calve There's a character in Godfather three
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that's Roberto Calvie. So I wouldn't be surprised if if
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the uh, the Sopranos wasn't as mafia consulted as the Godfather.
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But I don't know that for sure. All right, So
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I hope you guys enjoyed this full on breakdown. I
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think it. I think we broke it down good. I
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do apologize because I feel like I'm missing a couple
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of details with the finale. I think I've hit all
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the highlights though. Oh the cat when Tony walks into
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the restaurant, that yellow tabby cat, that Polly says, as
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an omen, you see a giant yellow cat up on
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the mural right beneath where Tony's gonna die. I don't
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think that's accidental, because that's it. That's the omen. Yeah.
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Then there's a lot of other details like that. And
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I've only seen the show once through, so I would
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guarantee you that knowing that if you went back, I
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mean there's no you would find I'm sure all kinds
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of you know stuff. I mean that you could die
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sect this like you could dis sect Twin Peaks. I
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mean it would be like a you know, a never
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ending that section type of thing. And that's why this
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does you know this is up there with you know,
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two thousand and one with Kubrick eyesway shut, it's up
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there with twin Peaks, David Lynch stuff, for that level
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of depth that you really can decode it forever, and
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that's when you know it's something good. Jack five dollars,
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congratulations on being married. Who's married? Who got married? Oh
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you mean us? Thank you, Gerald Norris, one hundred dollars.
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Look at that, he said, keep going. Well, you throw
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me one hundred dollars, dude, I'll keep going. I will
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never stop. But hey, it's nice to know that, you know,
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you could put in this much time and effort to
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Sopranos because what this took us, well a few couple
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of months. Yeah, I mean there was a couple of
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months of watching and researching and paying attention. So so
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really appreciate that, Drol Norris, that's a really generous super
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chat and I really thank you for that. Evan Schultz.
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Ten dollars, he's lost it where to go?
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If you touch this it just flies past all of
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the super chats. Thank you as always, The Sopranos was
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a great TV show and your analysis is insightful. Always
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nice to have Jamie on. Congratulations in many years to
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you both. Well, thank you Evan Schultz.
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He's a longtime supporter, longtime super chatter, He's been there
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for what a few years now, So much appreciated, Evan.
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We know you're an og when it comes to supporting
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Jay's nel, so so thank you for those kind words.
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And I'm glad you liked this stream Anthony for ten dollars.
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It's funny. My friend watched this series recently and it
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coincided with him going through phases a belief in Reincarnation
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told you his other beliefs like Buddhism, nihilism, seeing himself
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as a general. Oh that was the other thing. Remember
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the painting Polly has that stupid painting with the horse saved.
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He saves it out of the dumpster, and then he
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has Tony painted as a civil as American revolutionary general.
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Once again, Reincarnation Tony is a general. Would you say
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that he was programmed? That is I think a potential reading.
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That's what I'm trying to say with I mean, we
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don't ever get the clear reference that Tony was at
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some point programmed unless this was all done intentionally. And
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maybe you could say, well, Tony's mom is a psychopath,
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his dad was a psychopath. So if they had a
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connection to the FEDS or to the CIA or something
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like that, maybe, and maybe that's why the FBI agent
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at the end says your family, your people, Right, you
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guys worked with the CIA to hide Lucky Luciano. Right.
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Maybe that's the significance to that reference and to the
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MK ultra monarch symbolism that is in the show and
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the Wizard of Odds stuff and the drugging. So is
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the psychiatrist a handler I don't think so, but it
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is interesting to, you know, speculate on is Tony a
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a programmed kind of Assassin's It's something you could speculate,
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but I'd have to go back and rewatch the show
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from that angle to see if you could really substantiate that.
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But it's an interesting theory. So that's what I think
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about him being programmed. Maybe Dharma poozle seven dollars small beer.
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I know, dude, but Ay has broke. Well, you don't
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have to if you're broke, dude, don't worry about some
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of you super jazz but much appreciated. You want to
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read some supergens, We're.
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Here, Mike, Mike Sherman twenty dollars. Paul went to Norway
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for a two season Mafia sitcom. Hilarious.
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Maybe he means Paulie.
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Paul's went to Norway for a two season.
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Mafia He probably means Paula. That would be funny to watch.
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Yeah, Varsity athlete three dollars. Quasi moto predicted all of this.
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The elites are the sacred and we are the profane.
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Yeah, I mean that's really the the basis of all
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the symbology from the elite perspective?
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Is that a quasi motive conversation they had?
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Oh?
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Do they remember? It was like they were making fun.
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Of notre yes. And it was right after the nine
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event and Tony was talking to Bobby and Tony makes.
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That oh yeah, you know it's that you know, damas yes,
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And Bobby.
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Thinks quasi moto is no stra damas yeah, and Tony
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makes fun of him for being really domb.
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It's funny, s bad hastonian ten dollars, great conversation, great impersonations.
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Forget about it, Tony, forget about it, Crystal, that's Adriana.
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Uh Carmela, Oh yeah, she can't forget about it? Huh
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ye that what you're gonna do? You're gonna forget about it?
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Forget about it?
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What are you gonna do? I like that one? What
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are you gonna do?
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Forget about it?
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On my life?
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Te okay KEI going? Don John, Don John ten dollars,
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excellent show.
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Thank you, Don John, You're an excellent that's an excellent.
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Name, Don John Daniel ya Ania fifty dollars. Oh, thank you,
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great stream. We have to check the show out.
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Yes, well, I'm sorry for spoiling it. Although that's how
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it goes. If you watch this holes maybe you cut
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it off and didn't watch the ending, so you don't
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know what happens. But I think you will agree with
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mine nelysis if you see the end of the show. Okay, Sean,
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But by the way, Daniel, thank you for that fifty
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dollars much appreciated. Shout out Daniel and Nia.
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Sean and Finnegan five dollars. Can you explain revelation of
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the method and generally why Hollywood does it.
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Well? On an esoteric level, it's done I think to
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just prepare people for what's coming, or to kind of
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cast a spell that you see something before it happens
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in fiction, and so it kind of casts a spell
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over you. It might make you. You might be conditioned
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to it, right, So from a kind of a psychological
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warfare perspective, it's like gaslighting, so you're conditioned to it.
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So basically, I think that's the reason for why this
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kind of stuff would pop up. It's not always intentional.
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Sometimes the arts just have that quality to them where
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they can in a way predict the future. So there
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could be a higher level kind of divine providence that
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is the basis for the arts predicting the future. Sometimes
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it's human agency that's intentionally conditioning people to accept messages.
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Governments have done that forever, you know, embedding messages into fiction.
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I cover that in my books. So you know, you
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can have different motivations and actors, so to speak, within history.
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So it's not always one thing, right, there can be different.
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So but from the psyops perspective, revelation of the method
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of functions to condition, and then from the esoteric perspective,
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you could argue that it's a kind of a maybe
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a casting of a spell where you're, you know, gaslighting
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your audience before you do what you're going to do.
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All right, Well, there you go, two and a half hours.
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I think we covered any other closing remarks on.
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Us Super Sopranos stream.
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All right, everybody, thank you. If you enjoy this, please
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like it and share it, subscribe, and if you do
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02:29:08.799 --> 02:29:12.280
have a chance, definitely watch The Sopranos and tell me
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if you think I'm right or if I got something wrong.
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Leave me comments below below the show if you're watching
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this after the live show, and let me know if
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you think I got something wrong. Everybody, have a good
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night and we'll talk to you soon. Next up, by
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the way, is we will do our top ten X
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Files episodes. We've been we've been for a long time
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02:29:29.479 --> 02:29:32.399
wanting to do a really good X Files breakdown. So
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we're gonna pick like the top ten. It's gonna be difficult.
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It might not be ten, might be twelve, fifteen, but
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we're gonna pick the best ones we think. I've seen
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X Files many times through. It's a great show, the
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classic for you know, conspiracy TV shows, And that will
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be next up for