Davis Mallory RETURNS + TALKS New Music, ‘Leaving a Legacy’ & Potential ‘Challenge’ Return | JTWJE Podcast Episode #359

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Hello everyone, and welcome back to the lates edition of
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and more episodes, and please subscribe to this podcast. I'm
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philed to welcome back our latest because he is a
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longtime friend of this platform. He may have he got
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his start on the Real World Denver, and he compete
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on three seasons of the Challenge. He's also a talented
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DJ and singer songwriter, and he hosts both the Leave
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Alexi podcast and Nexus Radio Dance. Please let me welcome
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back to this platform our dear friend, Davis Malory.
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Jake, It's so good to see you. You got to remind
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me when was the last time we saw each other.
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It was in New York City.
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Right, physically, it was in New York City in twenty nine.
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You're right. I think I had a show at the
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Bowery Vault that brought me there. So it's good to
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see you again.
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It's good to see you too, And you also did
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one of our early our twenty twenty podcasts during that whole.
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Crazy year pandemic. Yeah, so five years ago.
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Yeah, it's been five years, my friend. I've been waiting
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so long to have you, and I'm like, I'm so
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glad our schedules finally on matchup. So, David, thank you
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so much for always supporting me. You mean a lot.
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Well, thank you for always supporting me. I appreciate that
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you've been one of the earliest people to promote my
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music when I first began. So I really appreciate you
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always reaching out.
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You're so welcome. And Davids, it has been five years
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since you visit the podcast, So have you grown as
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a creative entrepreneur and performer since our last conversation.
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Gosh, man, I forget what was happening five years ago,
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but my imagination would be I was probably in the pandemic,
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and I was probably exploring nature because everything was closed
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in Tennessee other than wilderness. So and I think in
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that year I started dating of Venezuelan in Miami. Perhaps
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we since he since moved here to Nashville and we
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sadly broke up last summer, but our friendship is still alive.
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We've made that part of the relationship work. I think
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we just realized we were not the right people for
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one another, but we still have like a deep love
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for one another, so it was not such a bad breakup,
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but more so just like a mutual understanding, you know.
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And but musically, like, I think I've been to Europe
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so many times. I think I've already gone once this year,
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and I went like four times last year. I really
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tried to make trips there as often as I can,
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and that's I've been working on a lot of my
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music projects and yeah, I've just been pumping out singles
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with DJs or by myself since I last spoke with you.
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So that's awesome. I'm so proud of you for going
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all for traveling across Europe and gallivancing over there and
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capturing that The one spot in particular you like is
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basically you've been traveling to one of CoP's biggest international
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songwriting cap dance writing capitals, and that is Sweden. So
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what has attracted you to work with some of the
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Swedish songwriters and producers to enhance your sound?
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Yeah, I mean when I was a little boy, I
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learned from my mom that my father's sorry, let me
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rephrase that. My mother's father is Swedish, so my grandfather
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and that always had this gravitational pull on me. And
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as I started learning about Max Martin and Backstreet Boys
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and then seeing and Britney Spears and everybody getting produced
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by Max Martin, and even the Swedish singer Robin Like
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her music was so good, and I was just like,
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what is this magical place of Sweden. It's like in
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my DNA, and I have to go there. So twenty
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seventeen was the first year I ever signed a song
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to a record label. I signed a song called Loud
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to Armada Records. Cedric Travai's, a French DJ signed my song,
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and simultaneously that same year, a Swedish DJ remixed one
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of my songs called Anyone Would Know named John Dolbach.
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And that year I had two songs come out. It
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was my first year ever having any songs that all
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on a label, and I had two and they were
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both based in Amsterdam, and so I started getting messages
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on Instagram. People were like, Hey, are you gonna go
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to Amsterdam dance event? I was like, I don't know
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what that is. So in twenty seventeen, I bought a
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plane ticket to Amsterdam dance event went for the first time,
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and on the back end of that trip, I went
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to Sweden for the first time ever. And I don't
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know if like God just has favor for me in
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my life in Sweden. But when I first went to Sweden,
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I found myself in a room with Clear Up, who
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produced Robin's With Every Heartbeat, and I'm writing a song
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with him. Unplanned, didn't plan it. Basically, I arrive in Sweden,
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I have a coffee meeting with an actress named Regina Lund,
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who I just DMed on LinkedIn. She met me for
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coffee the next day, She's like, let's do a songwriting session.
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I'm friends with clear Up, Let's go to his studio
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the Little Boy, and me is like freaking out because
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I know his name, I know that song with Every
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Heartbeat by Robin and I'm so excited to work with him.
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And second day in Sweden, I'm in his studio working
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with him, and I'm like, what how did this happen?
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You know? So fast forward A year goes by. I
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get invited to sing during Stockholm's Pride in twenty eighteen
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and I'm unexpectedly opening up for the winner of Eurovision
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that year, Neta, she won for Israel, and I sang
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two songs before her show, and I'm like, what is
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this favor that God has for me here in this country.
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It's like my second trip here, I'm now doing something
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like larger than life, you know what I'm saying. And
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that trip, I got myself into the room of Abba
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Binnie Anderson's publishing company and I wrote two songs at
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his publishing company like I'm like, Okay, there's something magical
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and special here. So from then on, I was like,
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I gotta keep coming back now. One of my goals,
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like Reach for the Stars goals, was to work at
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ten Music Group. They are the publisher slash record label
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for Zara Larson. She's like the Britney Spears of Sweden,
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and Benjamin and Grosso, who is like the Justin Bieber
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of Sweden, as well as Kanapop who had that smash
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hit like I Love It, I Love It, yeah exactly,
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And I had DMed and emailed Ten Music Group being
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like I'm coming to Sweden and I just got crickets
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during the pandemic twenty twenty. I'm down in Miami dating
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that Venezuelan. I hear this really cool cover of the
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Killers when we were young. That song is like, she
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doesn't look a thing like Jesus, that song, but it's
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done in like this deep vocal and like a dubstep,
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almost like a deep house vocal. I shazam it see
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that it's by a Swedish artist, DM the Swedish artist.
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They connect me with their manager. I'm coming to Sweden
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the pandemic is over. It's my first time in Sweden
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since the pandemic. And their manager connects me with a
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producer at ten Music Group on set my trip. So
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now I've got my foot in the literal door of
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this publishing company, record label that has been my literally
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like dream. And I work with this producer and to
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my surprise, he and I are born like two or
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three days apart, so we had this very common personality
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and we got along like brothers. And he and I
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wrote a song called American Boy, which was about the
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pandemic and how I wasn't able to leave America and
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I was dating a Venezuelan refugee who was legally allowed
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to work and live in the USA but not allowed
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to leave America, so we wrote this song about our
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travels around America. That day, he was out walking his
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dog ran into the owner of ten Music Group and
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the owner said, what have you been up to? I
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haven't heard any of your demos lately. He's like, well,
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I wrote this song today with this American named Davis Mallory.
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The owner's like, who is this kid? I like his music?
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You should keep working with him. So I got an
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email the next day being like, hey, can you come
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back and write more music with me, like before you
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leave to America. So the second day I come in
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and I say, okay, that song was cool, but the
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reason I wanted to work with you is because you
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produce Benjamin and Grosso and like, he was a contestant
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for Eurovision Sweden and he was competing with a song
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called Dance You Off. And I loved that song, so
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I was like, can we make something like Dance You Off?
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So that day we build this song and it's called
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in the movies that I did release and actually it
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was part of the Outweb Awards, Like they did a
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whole award show and they use that song, which was
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cool for me. But that day, as the song is
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nearly finished. Who walks in the room Benjamin and Grosso.
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Wow was to say hello to my producer, And I'm
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so sheepishly shy because I'm like, I hope he doesn't
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notice that the song I'm writing today is very close,
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if not a copy of his. Like if he had
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come the day before or the day after and the
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song was very different, I would have been like, yo,
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put our demo on. But this day I'm like, let's
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not play the demo for him. He might be like, yo,
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you copied me too close. But so that was like
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a surreal moment for me. And then I began from
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that point forward to just continuously work at ten Music Group.
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I came back three trips in twenty twenty. I did
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a trip in twenty. I think I did two in
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twenty twenty one. I did three last year. I've already
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done one this year. It's just become like a routine
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to just continuously go to Sweden working at ten. And
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I put a whole album out called American Boy, all
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produced at ten Music except for one song, tap Dancing,
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which is on my American Boy album is the only
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song that's not produced at ten. So that was a mouthful,
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but that's basically like what Sweden has become for me.
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That's amazing. And a got say is that it is
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definitely the share it one of the Jewish one of
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my favorite Jewish words whichkey rewards, which translates to.
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B hmm, that's beautiful. Say it again, share it we
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share it. Yes, that's gorgeous.
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Yes, yeah, that's just amazing. And we got to talk
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about some of your music as well, because you have
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done a lot of music, but like I've done a
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couple of them, including some of your latest singles. So
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let's get started. So I would love to learn the story.
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Let's start off with twenty four hours.
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Twenty four hours is a cool song. We actually never
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say the words twenty four hours in the song and
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the co writers on that song are Jacob, Benjamin Kohler
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and Victor Grimond and we wrote that in Stockholm, Sweden,
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not this last summer, but the summer before. And I'm
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actually unrelated going to go visit Jacob in Austria next
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week to work with him on music, which.
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I'm so sorry to get in rub Jacob Poller as
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in the person that worked with Tory Kelly and John
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Langen on Bridge over Trouble Water.
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I don't know if it's the same person. It could
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have just had the same name. He's kind of a
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young guy. This guy I could be just completely different people.
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But Verdioso. He's a music videoso and I featured him
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on this blog, so that could be interesting.
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Yeah, but yeah. So basically I had gone to Iceland
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for my birthday, not this summer, but the summer before
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met a guy. We had a twenty four hour fling
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and it seemed like it was going to go on
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after Iceland because we were both from the USA, and
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to my sadness, it didn't continue on. And in that feeling,
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I wrote this song twenty four hours and the lyrics
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are basically like in a land far away where the
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skies are gray like and then this guy's blue eyes
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just like caught me. But I had this feeling, and
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one of my girl friends is claims to be psychic.
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So she says, and I don't know if this is true,
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but she's just like her intuition was saying, he's in
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love with someone else and that's why he cannot be
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in a relationship with you. He's still, you know, got
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his mind and somewhere else. So basically that's kind of
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where the chorus goes. It's just like this person's essentially
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just not available. But we had a wonderful twenty four
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hours together. And that's that's the backstory. Yeah story.
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Yeah, alright, let's move on to honesty. Honesty, and it
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has this recording five put one thousand Spotify streams.
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Yeah, honestly, just came out, honestly, And I was working
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with Gustav, the same guy who produced American Boy, who
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produced in the movies. He works for ten music group.
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Gustav Blomberg is his name, the one whose birthday and
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minor just like a week apart. This was last summer
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he and I had gone on. I went to visit
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him for Midsummer Music Festival in June of last year
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and he was like, you should come back and spend
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the summer with me. So I was like, gladly, So
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I came back for our birth month of August and
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we did a second like sure. We actually went to
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Portugal for like four days in the middle of that justifacation,
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and when we got home from Portugal, we wrote Honestly,
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it was our last song before I came back to
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USA and it came about pretty quickly. I thought it
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was very earwormy, you know, like very catchy hooky. I
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love working with Gustav. If you notice any of the
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songs that I've released with Gustav, it's usually only me
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and him. So we have this like, we don't need
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a bunch of co writers. If I can't do it,
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he can. He's multi talented. He's a musician of multiple instruments.
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will spend ten in the morning till two in the
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morning in the studio fixating on the song. So you
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prepare for a long day when you work with him,
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and he's obsessed and he just fixates. And the demo
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that we released was truly written and record it in
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one day, which sometimes people are surprised when they hear it.
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They're like, this was a one day demo. I'm like, yeah,
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But he doesn't leave the studio. He fixates all day
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long on everything. But by the time the song is done,
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you can release it on Spotify same day. So that's
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how that song came about. And it lyrically and conceptually,
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it's truly not about a person like the previous song,
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where like there was a story behind it. It's more
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so just a feeling song like what do you want
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from me? Tell me honestly, like what do you want
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from me? It's more so just like to the world
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or to anyone. Maybe I was at a place in
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my life romantically where I'm just like, be honest with me,
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I don't really want to play games, you know.
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So absolutely, I don't want to have a partner that
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plays games as well. Yeah, alrighty, we gotta talk about
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one of the best. Don't like biddle Finger, don't like
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don't that's with you saw me with songs and talking
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about with my vibe.
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That is probably my favorite song I've ever made, And
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I don't know, I mean, it's like so hooky. I
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can listen to that song of mine on repeat in
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the gym every day and not get tired of it,
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which for my own music I don't do that for
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I mean, I do that for other people's music's time.
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There's times where I'll get obsessed with someone else's song
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and play it like on repeat in the gym, but
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not my own music. Very often. This one is one
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of those like it's and I'll be honest with you,
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it's not necessarily about my life story, my understanding, and
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my memory of this song was it's again with Gustav Bloomberg.
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He was in a fight with his girlfriend the week
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we wrote that song. We had spent Midsummer with her
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at her family's house and she got mad at him
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when we left, and we wrote that song the day after,
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and she had that day taken all their photos off
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of Instagram and just just scrubbed him, and he was
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so upset. So that song came from a place of
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his feelings, not my feelings. But I could create a
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song that I related to, so I started writing lyrics
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to personalize it to myself because this is my song,
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you know. But it was really a mood he was in.
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And then by the end of the day, I just
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I loved it. I was so proud of it that summer,
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and I finally released it just recently and I shot
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a music video for it in Miami that's still in
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the editing stages right now, so I haven't released the
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video yet.
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When you release the video, and make sure to put
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to post it on the jakes, take the chicken sho gladly,
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and also I'll be happy to also be happy to
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feature in my new music reviews.
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Hey, thank you, Gladly.
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Alright, alrighty, so let's tell talk about can You Tell
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I'm just listening into it. It's fadulous you teamed up
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with Well, I'm sorry, Red, I'm so sorry.
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No, I think it's rebels, rebels. Who knows rebels?
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Sorry rebels? I so get mad at me As vis recording,
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it has over nineteen two thousand and two hundred Spotify streams.
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Yeah, so that's an older song. I wrote that the
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second time I ever visited Berlin, which was pre pandemic
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I think twenty nineteen if my memory is correct, And
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I went with a girl named Pollyanna. If you check
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her music out, she's got huge songs with like all
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the big DJs. She took me to Berlin for a
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week of writing, and she connected me to a publishing
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company called Guestimitt and they set me up on a
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songwriting session with two guys who go by the Twins.
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There's names are Valentin Glage and Vincent Stephenson. And can
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You Tell Me was the first song we ever wrote together.
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The second song we wrote in the same day was
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called the Music I Found in You. I was obsessed
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with can You Tell Me? I thought it was such
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a good song, and I ended up actually releasing it
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on my Little Victory album as a standalone song, just
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by my own. But what I do a lot of
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times when I write music is I make it available
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for DJs if they want it. And as this song
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was never signed to a record label because I just
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independently released it, DJ Revels from Germany asked for it
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just very recently, like I think within the last six
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months to a year, so I gave it to him
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and his version just came out this year, and his
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version is more club radio dance like remixy than the
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original version. It actually has a story behind it now
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that I think about it. I had gone to New
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York City. There was a very handsome guy who had
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been on my kind of crush list, like in my
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mind he was a crush and he had just gotten
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sober from alcohol and I had been sober for I
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want to say two years, and he was just in
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the middle of getting sober. So we went to an
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AA meeting together to help him out, and he kissed
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me and told me that he always had a crush
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on me when he he was younger, watching me on
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the real world. And I think I gave him a hat,
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or he gave me a hat. If my I think
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he gave me a hat. I don't know. There was
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some hat reference. So when I went to Berlin and
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started writing music, he ghosted me and for three days
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I heard nothing from him, and I was actually like
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over analyzing, like did I do something wrong? Like what's
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happening with this dude? And I wrote can you tell
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me where all the love goes when you're not here?
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About him? And then I found out after I wrote
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that song that he had relapsed and had started using
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drugs or alcohol again, and his sponsor told him it
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was too early for him to date anyone and he
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needed to focus on his sobriety. So I thought it
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was about me, it's something I did, and it was
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not at all, But that's where that song came from,
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so that one does have a story. I lost your
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audio for a second, Jake. I don't know if it's
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just my end, but oh it's as muted.
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That's worry. Sorry about that, everybody. Even though it's been
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the six seasons. There's no worries, alrighty, so let's talk
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about a Sun and Moon. It has over six hundred
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and twenty nine spot of by street, Yeah, twenty nine
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thousand by stream.
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I'm sorry, Yeah, So Sun and Moon I wrote in Malmo, Sweden,
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which is just a little train ride off from Copenhagen, Denmark.
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You can just like take up maybe a twenty five
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minute train and you're in Sweden. It's my only time
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ever going to Malmo, Sweden. I don't remember who this
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song was about, if it was even about anybody, but
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it was just vibey. I wrote it with Edvn hurt Kwist.
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His name is strange. I don't know if I butchered
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his name, so Edvon, if you're listening, sorry, but yeah,
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and it was just he and I. Also, he's a
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Leo like me. I think he and I were also
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born one or two days apart. Similar to Gustav Blomberg's
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we had this similar kind of energetic similarities. You know.
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He put on this like kind of funky bass guitar
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and I just started vibing with his bassline. I wrote
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it very easily. I think I wrote primarily every lyric
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by myself while he just produced the track and then
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I released it was I was just obsessed with it.
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It was like so earwormy, Like I remember when I
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wrote that song, I could not get it out of
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my brain for the rest of the trip. I just
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kept singing it. And then I started getting remixes made,
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and so I get like a remix package together, and
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this Algerian DJ named Randall made this very cool remix
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and that's the version that you're referencing that has all
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these streams. It got featured in a TV show on
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Hulu called Good Trouble, and another remix I'm pretty sure
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got featured in like a drag themed show, a Snapchat
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original series called Growing Up Is a Drag. The BPT
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remix got featured there, and yeah, it became like one
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of my favorit written songs. It really was outside of
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my sound of music at that point in time. Prior
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to that, I'd been making more country music and like
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EDM music, and this had a lot of funk to it.
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Like I think I was also very Prince inspired. I
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think Prince had passed away around the same time I
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wrote this song, and I spent days listening to Prince's
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entire catalog start to finish, just driving around in my car,
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and he really influenced my son of music that time
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of my life.
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So that's amazing. That's amazing. And to listen to an
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entire Prince's entire catalog, I've only listened to thirty four songs.
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Of his, so he has so many albums, so it
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took a long time to finish.
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Absolutely, absolutely. So the final song I Gotta talk to
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you about is Pitter Pattern with Cag, and recording has
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one point five million Spotify.
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Heay. So Cag was originally asked to remix Sun and
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Moon and he said no, he just couldn't get an
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idea for it. But what he offered as a replacement
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was for me to write on an instrumental. So he
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sends me this instrumental. I wrote Pitter Potter all by myself,
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very easily sent it back to him. He liked it
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and we released it now. Warner Denmark that year had
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released a song of mine called Thinking of You with
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a French DJ named Loick Panilo, and I offered up
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Pitter Patter to them and they wanted it, so I
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ended up doing two songs with him. As in the
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same year as kind of like a follow up single,
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and Pitter Potter surpassed Thinking of You in streams. Fortunately
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it was a five year contract, so at five years
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we got the record back and we now own it
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by ourselves, which is a blessing. So now me and Kag, yeah,
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we co owned the song and it's released from Warner.
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No complaints to Warner. But that's just a nice thing
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when that happens, because there's been a couple of times
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where I've foolishly not paid attention to the contracts and
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have signed a song indefinitely for twenty years or ten years,
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which is a little more common. As far as Pitter Patter,
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I don't remember if it was about anyone or if
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it was more so just like with the feeling you
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get when you have a crush on someone, that pitter
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powder feeling. And I growing up was a huge TLC
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fan because I was born in Atlanta and those girls
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were from Atlanta, and Silly Hoe was one of my
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favorite TLC songs, and I referenced Silly Hoe in one
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of the lyrics of Pitter Potter, which I always thought
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was kind of a cool, subtle thing that only like
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a TLC fan would notice, and it's there.
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So I love TLC A guy, I love that creep
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and nose scrubs and of course.
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Waterfalls, Yes, brilliant songs.
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By the way, did you ever listen to Bette Miller's
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version of Waterfalls? Is amazing?
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No? But after this call ends, you know what I'm
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gonna do?
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Alrighty Instagram messaged me after this and let me know
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when you listen to it. I shall Yeah, alrighty, we
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are going to lead the news sick world for a
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little bit and talk about the podcast. Well, so congratulation,
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I'm welcoming to and welcome to the podcast family because
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you launched your podcast leading a Legacy. So can you
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describe this show to my audience?
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Yeah, So last summer I was in Hawaii and I
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was going through a little bit of a heartbreak which
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had become part of almost like a recurring thing in
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my life. I think I was just dealing with like
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repetitive patterns of dating the same kinds of people, unavailable people,
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or maybe I was just doing the same kinds of
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things myself, and like who knows. But in this week
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of feeling extremely sad, one of my close Christian girlfriends
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said I want you to meet a prophetic prayer friend
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of mine, and I was like, Okay, what is that.
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I've never seen that or been around that. Let's go.
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So she introduces me to this little Hawaiian guy and
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his name is Jesse Wong, and he starts to pray
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over me prophetically, never having met me and to my knowledge,
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not knowing anything about my life. And the first thing
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he says to me is that he sees a desire
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in me to help men heal from trauma. And I
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was like yeah, And as he said it, I started
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crying just a little bit in my eyes because it
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felt very true. And he said that I had suffered
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from a lot of I'm trying to remember the precise
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words he said, but almost just like religious kind of
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like difficulties or like religious persecution. Almost persecution is an
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extreme word, but you know what I'm saying, kind of
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like judgment or prejudice, Like I had been dealing with
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some harsh, harshness from the religious community. And I was like, yeah,
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I can remember that because I used to sing in
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my church choir. And then I was struggling with my
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sexuality and came out and felt a lot of like
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ousted from the church vibes from my church community, and
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so once this conversation ended, I felt like something that
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had been in the back of my brain for all
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almost ten years and had been something that had happened
506
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to me when I turned thirty years old I moved
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to Nashville. I had felt like I really wanted to
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help him in truly especially same sex attracted men, because
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I was noticing a lot of same sex attracted men
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that I was friends with were heavily a drug addicted
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or sex addicted, and we're winding up single and in
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like these states of just brokenness, and it was hard
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to watch and help and feel like no one's helping
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these men. So I came back to Nashville. One of
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my straight buddies and I were talking and I was like,
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do you want to do a podcast together. He's from
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a divorced family. I'm from a divorced family, so we
518
00:27:39.319 --> 00:27:42.799
had similar traumas. But he's straight and I'm gay, and
519
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he's like, yeah, let's do it. So we began a
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podcast that summer. Two episodes in, he just got uncomfortable,
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I think with some of the stories and some of
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the gay narrative that I thought he was comfortable with.
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Could you could just tell he was like not as
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comfortable hearing me share some of my realness as a
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straight man, and it almost like just couldn't work as
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a duo, and so he politely just backed out. And
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then that caused me to launch what is now Leaving
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a Legacy podcast as a solo endeavor, and it has
529
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been mainly my opportunity to interview people who are in
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the entertainment world or faith based people, or like in
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my most recent episodes, it has been a girl who
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has prophetic prayer gifts, or I have interviewed a guy
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who used to be heavily drug addicted and by the
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grace of God, he got out of his drug addictions.
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But I have interviewed people who have been on the
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voice or who have been trying to think a girl
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who won the challenge, for example, Like it's been a
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00:28:42.759 --> 00:28:45.839
collection of people, a girl who is a clothing designer
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for celebrities, or a girl who is a country star.
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So it has been a collection of different people. It's
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not something I do weekly. It's something I do as
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I meet people whose stories I find fascinating and I'm like,
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gotta get you on. Let's share this with the audience,
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00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:05.200
and that is how it grew and spawned.
545
00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:08.279
That's amazing. It's amazing show. I was actually listening to
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00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:10.759
a couple of episodes. I know that you said Challenge,
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and I immediately thought of JOHNA.
548
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:13.759
Yes, exactly.
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She lives in the Nashville as well, and I believe
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she was part of our broad shout out to our
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00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:21.480
friend Scott Yenger, who was student Challenge media as well.
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This weekend he ran into like John Brennan and also
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our friend of our podcast and Falling cal Fiery, another
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friend of our podcast. So it was great to see
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really quickly since we brought up Challenge a little bit
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as this recording, Challenge All Starts is airing its fit
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final Vinyl in by Out. The eighth finalists are al
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party LGBT community. So as someone who's been on a
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show and representing that community, what does it mean to
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have that many finalists that are in the community.
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That's fantastic. I mean, I don't know, I mean other
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than well, let's see Rachel Robinson has won, hasn't she?
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And I think Evelyn has won. But I was gonna
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say Frank because one too okay cool, So I was
565
00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:03.960
just gonna get Tyler, I believe and Tyler. So I mean,
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there's clearly I'll be honest with you. I don't watch
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every season of this show. I was watching the ones
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I was on, and I've seen maybe five of them.
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I haven't been on since I stopped doing the show
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in twenty eleven, so like my understanding of the history
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00:30:16.920 --> 00:30:19.599
of the show is pretty weak. But I mean, I
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would hope that that would give some chances of these
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guys who are on to win. So I just hope
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one of them wins. That would be fantastic, But honestly,
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make it the best man or woman win.
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I think that absolutely, and I got it. And I
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before we leave the challenge where I guys, they have
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All Stars All start fans have been dying for All
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Stars season six and I know and there's one I
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would love to see you personally on All Star season
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six or seven if they make it. Have you thought
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about it or are you like? I'm good right now?
583
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So here's the weird thing. When I did The Real World,
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I and I've said this before, so this isn't a secret,
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but I made this like personal goal to myself that
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I would only do three challenges. My reason being is
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I felt like some people who continuously did Challenges just
588
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didn't move on in their lives from that show and
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00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:11.920
do other things that they were skilled at or passionate about,
590
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:15.519
and I feared that if I did more than three,
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I would become sort of like a lifelong person and
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not move on with my life. And as you can see,
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I moved on to making music, which was what I
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was passionate about. Now that I've had this much break,
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I think I haven't done a challenge in fourteen years.
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I would be open to doing one again, although I'm
597
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:37.319
not like dying to come back on. I literally watched
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Challenge last night only because, as you mentioned, I was
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with This Weekend with Polly and Mark Long and Avery
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and Adam Larson, and it caused me to be like,
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let me watch the new Challenge and see what they're
602
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:52.519
talking about, because as they talked about stuff, I was like, Yeah,
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00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:54.160
I don't know what they're talking about. I haven't seen
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00:31:54.200 --> 00:31:56.680
this show. And there's a part of the Challenge that
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00:31:56.759 --> 00:31:59.799
I do not like, Like there is a mean spirited
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00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:02.359
news to it. There's a lot of people speaking bad
607
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about you behind your back on camera that to your
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00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:10.440
face are being nice to you. And there's almost this
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00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:13.920
sensibility of like try I don't know, it's almost like
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a gossip or like a kind of a way to
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like bring people down, you know what I'm saying, Like
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kind of like it's like a I wouldn't say bullying,
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although it feels like a little bit of a bullying spirit,
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but it's like a little bit of just like it's
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everyone trying to bring each other down, and I just
616
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:31.960
don't feel like that is who I am as a
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person or where I really want to place myself in
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the world. Like I would much rather bring people up
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and like help people heal from trauma, not create trauma
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in their lives that they hold on to for the
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next several years because someone's being mean to them on TV,
622
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you know. So, I honestly, if I never do another
623
00:32:48.920 --> 00:32:51.000
challenge again, I feel like that is probably God just
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protecting me and that's not my calling in my life.
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But if one opens up and I do it, like
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00:32:56.839 --> 00:33:01.240
we see what happens, but it's not something I'm rushing towards, I.
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Totally respect that decision. And when if you decide to return.
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Believe me, you have a number one fan here that
629
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:11.279
will help OUs. Thank you, and then also but like
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we need to get back to what these conversations have
631
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:17.000
been with leading the legacy so well. Who have been
632
00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:19.720
some of your most memorable guests and why did those
633
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:20.799
episodes stand outs?
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Gosh? I had this girl on in October of last
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00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:27.559
year named Aubrey, and I met her at a Christian
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00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:30.799
conference in Nashville called Think. It was kind of like
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00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:33.680
Ted Talk but Think Talks, and it was like ten
638
00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:37.519
minute talks everyone where there was like a former gay
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00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:40.440
porn star who had gotten out of that lifestyle. There
640
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:44.359
was a woman who's literally suing porn Hub because of
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00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:49.119
all the underage victims whose content is unwillingly on that
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00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:52.279
site where there's like rape or you know that has
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00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:54.680
been not taken down. So there was like really cool
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people there. But in just the audience, I met this
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girl with this crazy afro and this crazy clothing style
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and she was a mutual friend. And my mutual friend
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00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:07.240
Rachel Vaughan was like, you got to talk to abre.
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Her story is insane. So I'm sitting in the lobby,
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You're literally standing in the lobby just talking to this
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girl Aubrey, She's like, yeah, I used to be part
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of like I think she called it, like the adult industry,
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but although she was never really a stripper or a prostitute,
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but she was more of like an escort. And then
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she went to China to study other religions and was
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like praying to Buddha and like studying Hinduism and like
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00:34:33.719 --> 00:34:37.760
literally studying other religions but just feeling crickets, like she
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00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:42.199
wasn't feeling a reaction to her prayers. And then she
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heard about a church in China that was meeting illegally,
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like underground, and she visited it and then like the
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next week, a bunch of them got arrested because it's
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like illegal to meet as a church in China. And
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she felt like she felt the real God in going
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to that community and ended up changing her life and
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spending the next ten years of her life dedicated mostly
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to people impacted in sexual situations, Like she spent time
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in Thailand and she was working with the Lady Boy community,
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00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:19.719
and one of the things she learned is that it's
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expected in Thailand to have a child work in the
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sex industry because it is a way that their families
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receive income, and if the family only has boy children,
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usually they take the youngest child and start to transgender
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them so that they can have at least one lady
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boy or female in the family, so the family makes
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money off of the youngest child. And she was meeting
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some of these people who were lady boys and being like, he,
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when did you decide you wanted to be you know, transgender?
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And they were like, oh, I never had a choice.
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My parents did this to me, which she was surprised by.
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But she was also witnessing to some of the people
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who were the men who were coming from Australia or
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00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:04.679
Europe to have sex with these girls and be like
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00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:07.480
just says in her own words, there's one level of
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brokenness to sell your body. There's another level of brokenness
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to buy another person, Like what is the hurt there?
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So her story was fascinating to me, and it's probably
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my favorite episode I've ever done. There's more stories than
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just those, but those are some of the highlights.
688
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:27.239
Absolutely, those are amazing. So who'd be thought to be
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your dream who are your dream guests?
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I mean, I can't think of someone right now who
691
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:35.840
I'm just like craving to get on and has ghosted
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me or hasn't even responded, you know what I'm saying, Like,
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it's really like it's a mixture of famous people and
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it's a mixture of real life people like Aubrey who
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you just heard about. She's just a real life person.
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She's just a real girl. You know. Her story was
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so interesting. I was like, I have to have you on.
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Pauli Califiori and I have been talking about have him
699
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:56.599
coming on because he just got baptized and he just
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came out as bisexual within like a month apart. And
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I just find combination of those two things very interesting
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because the whole subject of like sin is such an
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00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:08.199
interesting subject matter, like what is a sin? And like
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how do we decide which ones are sinful and which
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ones are not sinful? Like is pre marital sex a sin?
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Is bisexuality a sin? Is it not a sin? I
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would just kind of want it because I mean, I
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think he and I probably have similar views on that
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subject matter, But I would love to just get a
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conversation around that someone who follows the religious code that
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says that that's a sin, but then also as like, no,
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I don't think that it is, and why do you
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not think that that is? I think that would be
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an interesting conversation to have. So he's one that's in
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the cards.
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Ask someone that has had PAULI on multiple times on
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this platform while he's been one of my all time
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favorite guests, and to see you two to do a
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conversation together, I'll be so thrilled. And please, if you guys,
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please instagram me after you guys are done, if you
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guys can do it, because I respect both of you
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so much.
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Thank you. Yeah, I think that's gonna happen soon. So
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that's in the cards.
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I decided those To anybody else.
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Oh gosh, I don't know. I mean, I'm trying to think.
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I feel like my answers should be like, yeah, there's
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a bunch. But in all honesty, I just I think
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what happened in this specific season. And I hate to
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bring this up, but my grandmother had a near death
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experience while I was in Sweden and I saw her
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in person about two months ago, and I just felt
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this kind of intuitive feeling like she wasn't doing good.
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She has been sober for many, many years, but in
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this recent chapter of her life as a widow with
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not a lot of hope. She started drinking, and I
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started feeling nervous for her that this would impact her
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in either a mental decline or she would have a fall.
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Like drinking, she would have a fall. And a week
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after I saw her, what do I find out from
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my dad? She had a fall and when the paramedics
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showed up, she had wine on her so she was
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drinking when she had Then it punctured her ribs and
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pierced a hole in her lungs. So I thought pretty
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sure she was going to die. And I actually tried
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calling her four times while I was overseas in Europe,
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and every time I got no answer. I had a
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Christian friend of mine who is a strong prayer believer,
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and he just said a prayer one time in front
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of me, and he's like, you know, I don't know
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what he said. God have her call and answer. So
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he's like, give her another call. So I called and
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she answered, to my amazement, and when she answered, she
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sounded so weak and like I could pretty much tell
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she was on the verge of death. And all she
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said to me was she was like, Heaven is a
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beautiful place, and don't do anything that displeases the Lord,
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and I'm weeping over here, convinced that this is my
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final conversation with her. I literally recorded it on my
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phone in case I never heard from her again. And
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that day I was actually singing at a church in Sweden,
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so I was in rehearsals, so I was like, can
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I sing for you? So me and my friend and
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this stranger woman sing for my grandmother. All three of
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us are crying. I'm crying the hardest, but they're crying too. Anyways,
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I say all that to say is when I got
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back from that trip, and that trip just ended March first,
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and here we are, April seventh. I've just been savoring
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the time with my grandmother because we're all at this
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expectation that, like this is not clear if she's going
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to live longer, or do we have another year with her,
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do we have months with her? We don't know. So
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I've really just put the podcast so much in my
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back of my mind while if I have a free day,
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I'm like over at my grandmother's recording conversations, just like
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asking her questions i've never asked. Just savoring those final days.
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And then literally next week I have to go to Ibiza,
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and as I told you, I'm going to Austria for
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International Music Summit. Last week I went to Miami Music Week.
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So my podcast is like kind of just like in
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the back burner. I think when I get back from Ibiza,
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I will probably be back into the like, Okay, let's
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do some episodes, let's see who we want on, like,
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let's maybe strategize who would be a good guest. But
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my mind has just been so not focused on podcasts
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until I figure out how much left life my mom,
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my grandmother has you know, I want to.
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Say this, I'm here if you need me, if you
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need me, I'm thinking of you and your grandmother. I'm
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thinking of your family.
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Thank you, thank you. Yeah, I mean, it's been amazing.
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My brother and sister came into town this weekend because
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they were also aware that she doesn't have a lot
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of life left. My brother lives in Atlanta, my sister
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lives in Michigan, and we just saw her for a
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day and she seems like she's doing better, but we're
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also aware that like we don't know, we don't know,
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who knows what. Watch her be alive for another five
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years and all this is over. Dramatized, but we just
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don't know.
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So audio, everyone please give Davis or presend Davis and
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his grandmother your prayers. We really, I really appreciate it
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in advance.
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Yeah, thanks buddy. But if you ever think a cool guest,
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you can tell me, or if you guys listening think
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of somebody cool to put on to send to suggestions so.
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And I will relay them back to Davis.
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Thanks.
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All right, and you guys start winding down our conversation
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with my friends. So where can my audience find you
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on social media? And where can you find? Where can
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I find your music?
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Yeah? So I mean I'm on all music platforms as Davis,
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d A V I S. Mallory m A L l
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O R Y. And that's really where you can find
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me everywhere, other than the Leaving a Legacy podcast, which
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I do have an Instagram dedicated for it. It's literally
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Leaving a Legacy podcast, and it's on Spotify and Apple
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podcasts as well as YouTube and all those other podcasters
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with that same name, so it should be easy to find.
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I think awesome. And guys, if you missed an episode
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of The Jakes Take with Jacoby podcast, visit our channels
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on Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, Spotify and Spreaker. Jake's
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take j c b e O y A c h
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A R. Now are you on social media? I'm on
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social media too, Facebook, Instagram, threads, Twitter and YouTube jsu
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b e O y A c h a R. And
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you can find all my takes on Davis's music on
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the blog and started all kisas chick dot com once again,
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Jake sash chick dot com. Davis as always, it is
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a pleasure to have you, my friend. It's so good
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to you. And let's not wait five years.
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Yes, not not as many. Next time, Let's make it shorter.
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Super good to see you.
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Awesome and guys, thank you so much for listening. Until
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next time, have a great one, everybody, good bye,