Ep. #918: Unexplained Encounters w/ Malcolm Robinson

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Five four three two one.
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When the lights go down low and the wools speaking too.
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How from somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal, you're
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entering into the pair abnormal.
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There's a parallel universe there. There's several races while we
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were seeing seriality. Home of the Game and the truth
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be known, it's all at least.
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Time without into the paran.
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Go into the para, go into the parandle.
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Nor from the hold our depths of a secret dungeon
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somewhere deep in the remote Pacific northwest. I am Jeremy Scott.
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It's the program that says somewhere between the paranormal and
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the abnormal. We're going to cover that ground and more
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tonight on the program. Quick updates. Though we were going
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to be talking about MK Ultra tonight. There was going
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to be a hearing taking place as announced by Congresswoman
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Anna Paulina Luna a couple of weeks ago, and then
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thirty six hours out comes the news quote our task
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Force hearing on MK Ultra will be rescheduled for a
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later date. We were able to confirm one witness, but
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our other three witnesses rightfully so were hesitant to testify
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as they have legitimate concerns. We will investigate a new
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date soon and are looking forward to investigating this topic.
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You don't say the intimidation factor coming in once again
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and then breaking. Today the CIA has apparently come to
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the I suppose the wherever the Office of the Director
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of National Intelligence is and seized boxes of evidence relating
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to the mk Ultra files. But also jfk assassination reports
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are that the CIA came in and seized about forty
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boxes of files that were in the process of being
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processed for declassification. So Representative Luna has given the CIA
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twenty four hours now to return the documents or says
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she is going to make a motion to issue a
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subpoena to hold them in contempt of Congress. So this
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is a heating up. Certainly makes you wonder what they're
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trying to hide. We've got MK ULTRA witnesses, UFO whistleblowers
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and others who are not feeling safe about coming forward.
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Some apparently ended up dead before they could testify. That's
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one that I'm willing to get behind, is like the
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you know the similarities, Well, they were supposed to testify
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about this and then something happened to them. That's a
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little has a little bit more meat on the bone
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for me than some of the other theories that have
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been floating around of lately. So it's very interesting what
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is taking place right now with the UFO files and
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also with mk ultra. It's all part of this task force,
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at least some of it is. Mk Ultra was not
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part of the original mission of that task force that
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was announced in early twenty twenty five, but now apparently
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it is. As more information comes forward. How much of it, though,
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will continue to be released if at all all? Right,
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I wanted to get that update out of the way tonight.
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Though we are going to go on a journey where
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stories are just a little bit off. How about that, friends,
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ones that could be hard to explain. It's really those
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unexplained encounters that we like best around here. So to
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talk about some of these unexplained encounters, we've welcomed all
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the way from Scotland. Malcolm Robinson, UFO and paranormal researcher,
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lecture and author, and known internationally for his work on
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unexplained phenomena. He founded Strange No Investigations in nineteen seventy
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nine to collect research and publish accounts of strange phenomena.
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He is given lectures all around the world and written
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books and covering UFO signings, paranormal encounters, hauntings and Scottish mysteries.
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He's one of the few people who has explored the
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depths of Locke Nest, doing so in a submarine. Malcolm's
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newest work is Testimonies of the Supernatural Strange Tales from
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around the World. And he said off air before we
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brought him on, I hope you can understand my Scottish accent.
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You'll do just find Malcolm Welcome to the program.
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Hi, gentlemen. It's a lovely experience to be on your show.
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Thanks for having me on.
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I appreciate it and getting our schedules to align when
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I'm on one side of the world and he's on
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the other eight hour time difference. We appreciate you making
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yourself available. So after writing so many books now on
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what UFOs and other paranormal subjects, you're still at it.
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Huh very much. So.
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Yes, we researched a whole range of strange and wonderful enigmas.
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And I mean, I say out on my journey, Jeremy
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Way back in nineteen seventy nine to disprove all these
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wonderful subjects. I honestly felt that there were no validity
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to claims pertaining to ghost Portorgais CFOs, and I set
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out and certainly I need to disprove that. But it's
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like anything else in life. How wrong was I? Now? Admittedly,
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and I'm sure you'll agree, there's a lot of Shenanigans
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out there, a lot of people you know, are dealing
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with AI. Things can be manipulated to look suspicious. But
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as I walked through my paranormal journey, I soon became
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aware that there is no smoke without fire, and I
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soon became convinced, absolutely convinced, that we are dealing that
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as mankind, we are dealing with some form of non
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human intelligence that's always been with us. But there is
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an agenda, Jeremy, there is an agenda, and it's to
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that agenda that myself and my colleagues that a strange
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former investigations are trying to unmask. What is going on here?
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What's going on with these abductions? Why are they still ongoing?
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So maybe we have a chance to discuss these as
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strange experiences as we go through your show today.
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So much of this is still fascinating to you to
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this day.
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Yeah, absolutely, and a truth be told. I mean, although
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I'm probably better known for my UFO research some massive
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cases in Scotland, which I do hope we have the
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time to talk about, my heart truly lies in the paranormal.
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I mean I've seen some incredible, astonishing things and haunted houses,
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chests of drawers rising up from the floor, moving along
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the ceiling and falling down at my feet. So the
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paranormal for me is a subject which I find totally fascinating.
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But having said that, you know, UFOs is a big deal.
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Lockness is a big deal, so mysteries there to be explained,
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and that's what we're trying to do.
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So you're an experiencer but also a researcher.
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Absolutely. I mean I've seen simply because boots on the ground,
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have put myself in the ballpark where things allegedly are
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want to happen, and I've seen some astonishing things in
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the sky. You know, there was a chap in a
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little place called aught to Be in western Ross and Scotland.
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He says Malcolm, I'm using a torch to flash up
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into the night sky and again bursally coming down. I
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don't know what's going on. Would you like to come
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up and see this? So, needless to say, I traveled
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from my home met this guy. It was a lovely,
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lovely Scottish night, you know, a star sky, beautiful mountains,
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and he got his torts and says, look this is
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all I do and about click click click click, and
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I swear to God Jeremy. Within about twenty seconds, this
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column of light descended from a clear, starry sky. Now
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it wasn't a structured object. It purely was a column
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of light. And quite a substantial amount of UFO settings
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are indeed just light phenomena. So there's me looking at
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this wonderful thing, knowing full well that it's you know,
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and this is in the early nineties, knowing full well
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this wasn't an aircraft, a helicopter, a drone or anything
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like that. And I couldn't even raise my camera to
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take a photograph. I was so shocked.
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Yeah, in awe. As many experiencers are talking with Malcolm
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Robinson tonight about those unexplained encounters into the pair of
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normal normal normal A All right, Malcolm Robinson with us tonight,
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please continue. This was one of your early UFO encounters.
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Yeah, I guess it was certainly was at the beginning
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of my career. And you know, looking at this strange
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light phenomenon, We're just sitting there in the sky, about
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maybe five six hundred feet in the sky, probably about
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two hundred to three hundred yards away, and it was
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it just suddenly stopped and just shot straight up into
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the sky. And since that particular setting, I've been, thankfully enough,
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I've seen a lot of strange things in the skies
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of bonnie Bridge and also down in England. So it's
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great to see these things myself. And even though I
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now believe in these subjects, I still try to dot
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the eyes and cross the t's. And what I mean
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by that, Jeremy, is we must seek alternative explanations. You know,
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we've contacted the police, did any members of the public
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report something? We checked with the airports Glasgow, Edinburgh, Cumbernalld
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Aberdeen with any air exercises ongoing. We checked with the
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British Ministry of Defense in London did they have any
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exercises ongoing? And when we've exhausted that line of inquiry,
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then truly, that individual case will obviously take on the
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mantle of a UFO. Of course, an American Canada use
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guys prefer UAP, but here in Scotland we prefer UFO.
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Are there some classic cases in Scotland?
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Absolutely? Absolutely, And I'll give you a quick for instance.
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On August evening, August the seventeenth, nineteen ninety two, two
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men from Edinburgh, Gary Wood and Colin Wright, who had
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no interest in you fos that had heard about it
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like we all have, you know, on the radio or
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read it in the newspapers. They were driving from Edinburgh
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down to a small village in tar Bracts, way out
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in the Walds, way out in the sticks. And as
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they left the built up city of Edinburgh, the car
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eventually hit fields, farmers fields to the left and to
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the right, miles and miles and miles of this farmland.
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They're driving down there, it's late at night. And suddenly,
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as they approached a blind bend in the road, Colin,
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who was in the passenger seat, alerted. Gary said, what
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the hell is that? Sitting about twenty feet above the
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surface of the road Germany, was this two tiered disc
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shaped object, A shiny disc shaped object. They get the
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new and you straight away again this is not an
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aircraft or what is this thing? So as the car
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was directly underneath this hovering object, bang, it emitted a silver,
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shimmering curtain of light. Heavy sparkling lights descended from beneath
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this object and impacted on the car roof. At that
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point both men were enveloped in total and inky blackness.
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They couldn't see their hands in front their face. They
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couldn't see the dashboard of the car. Seconds later, presumably
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seconds later, but it wasn't. Thankfully, the regaineder site the
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car is on the wrong side of the road, had
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to pull it back over to the left hand side
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of the road. Here in the UK, that's when we drive.
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And they rushed to their destination of tar bracts. And
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when they knocked on the occupant's door who they were
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going to see, no answer. Knocked again, no answer. Eventually
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the lady of the house opened the upstairs window and
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said to Gary, hey, what time do you call this?
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And Gary went, what do you mean You're an hour
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and a half late? Now, Jeremany that trip should only
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have taken about thirty thirty five minutes, and they went
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an hour and a half over this this time limit.
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They proceeded to tell occupants of the house that what
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they had seen. They got laughed out of court, you know,
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as most sadly, as most witnesses do now. That night
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and subsequent nights thereafter, they had this strange imagery of
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these small gray beings coming into their dream world. Then,
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much to their horror, they found scars on their body
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that previously were not there, scoop like semi.
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Circus material that was ejected.
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No, this is from an abduction, which you know I'm
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leading up to here. This is something that happened during
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the course of that night. What happened there was Gary went,
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who do you turn to? Who do you tell about
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these things? So long story short, He found our organization.
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He telephoned me, and at that time I advocated the
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use of hypnotic regression as a tool to take these
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men back to the August evening and possibly recall this
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hidden subconscious recall. We used the qualified hypnotherapist, We released
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the sluice gate of the mind, and these motive conscious
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sorry subconscious recall came tumbling out very briefly, Jeremy. What
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they claimed they happened was the car was stopped on
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the road as that still was swimming effect at the
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car coming towards the car was five or six small
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gray being three and a half four feet tall, childlike body,
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large pear shaped head, black and kilman shaped eyes. They
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were taking on board this craft. It sounds crazy, I know,
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but it's consistent with other tales taking on board this craft.
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They were stripped naked and subjected to some form of
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medical or clinical procedure which was very, very traumatic to
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both men. And I sat in on these sessions. We
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recorded it on videotape and audio tape, and it was
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very traumatic to them.
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Yeah, what was the name of that case.
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The case is called the A seventy incident, And if
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any of your viewers, your listeners want to type that
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into Google, the A seventy UFO incident, they will find
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a lot of information about that. Plus I wrote a
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full book on it as well, because you know, at
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one point Gary, who was stripped naked, he says Malcolm,
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I couldn't move a muscle, mate, I could only move
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my eyes. And two of these small beings were at
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the foot of this raised table bed, one of whom
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had a kind of pendulum like device. He was moving
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around my torso and he said to me, Malcolm, the
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pain was excruciating. It was like somebody's hand was inside
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my stomach and pulling on my entrols. It was really,
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really terrible, and so much recall came from that. It
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just had to come out into the public eye, so
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hence I wrote a book about it. Now, obviously there's
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a number of other Scottish cases that I'd like to
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tell you about as well as we go through to
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Sure, but this abduction happened in nineteen ninety two and
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it was the first reported in Scotland.
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It certainly was. It was the first reported UFO abduction. Now,
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there may well be other abductions that happened in Scotland
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prior to that. Absolutely, of course there will be.
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Sure because we hear of much earlier abductions here in
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the United States, that's not the case in Scotland.
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Yeah, it's kind of bizarre that when you think about it, Jeremy,
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because you know, I don't know if people are reluctant
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to come forward. I've often said you could have six
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people witnessing a low level close proximity UFO setting six people,
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and only three will come forward and tell their story.
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the fear factor, for the ridical factor. And it'd ask
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you know, your listeners and viewers to think about this.
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How many more UFO witnesses are out there throughout the
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world who we don't know about because they don't only
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come forward, they're frighten of relaying what they've had seen.
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So there must be many many more UFO settings and
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indeed abductions throughout the world. Yeah.
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Interesting you should say that, because that's what's going on
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with some of these hearings on subjects like UFOs, extraterrestrial
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life MK ultra is certain witnesses are a feeling threatened
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and intimidated and therefore they're not going to say anything
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that could, you know, bring harm to them.
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Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, I think we're in a better
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position now than we were about ten, fifteen, twenty years
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ago with disclosure. We're slowly being drip fed these fantastic cases.
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We look at the USS limits, the USS Theodore Roosevelt Dispatch,
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and Navy Jason in pursuit of the tic Tack, etc.
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So we're slowly getting there. What disappoints me is so
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of the finals that's been released, which clearly show the FBI,
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the CIA, and ANC we're involved.
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All right, Yep, they certainly were. We'll continue with Malcolm
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Robinson tonight. He is author of the new book Testimonies
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Are the Supernatural Strange Tales from around the World into
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the pair of Normal I'm Jeremy Scott, Pair of Normal News.
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I'm George Henry. Artificial intelligence is helping scientists unlock hidden
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secrets about meteors that have gone unnoticed for centuries. Researchers
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at Arizona's Low Observatory used machine learning to analyze more
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than twenty eight thousand events captured by the Lowcam sky
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surveillance network. Traditionally, scientists classified meteors using only a few measurements,
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but this new study expanded that to thirteen factors, including speed, brightness, duration, altitude,
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and atmospheric density. Using AI, researchers discovered three key traits
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that determine how meteors behave when they enter Earth's atmosphere,
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their size and shape, how easily they heat up, and
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the path they travel through the sky. The study also
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introduced a new system to rank the hardness and composition
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of meteors. Researchers believe this could dramatically improve how future
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meteors are studied and classified. Here, pair ofnormal news every
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hour on into the pair of noormal.
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Do you want to believe?
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Because some truths live just outside the normal? You're entering
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into the pair ofnormal.
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Talking with Malcolm Robinson tonight on the program Somewhere between
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the paranormal and the abnormal, I am Jeremy Scott's all right, Malcolm,
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what were you about to say about the UFO files?
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And I'm guessing these are the ones that would have
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been released last week here in the US.
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Yeah, it's a combination of those ones and ones that
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was previously drip fed through the years. We are very
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disappointed because a lot of these documents are heavily blocked out,
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paragraph after paragraph. What is behind those black partagraphs? It
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can't be the names and addresses of the witnesses. We're
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talking lots of paragraphs. So we're a wee bit despondent
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about that. But as I said earlier, we're in a
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better place now and I think there's some more fantastic
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discoveries to be told. Settled with the video footage. It's
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now being released as well. But just getting back to
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the seventy ks. One of the witnesses, Gary Wood's wife,
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refused to believe her husband. She thought, you know, he's
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making all this up. Until one night. I received a
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phone call from Gary's wife and she says, Malcolm, I
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was lying in my bed reading a book. It was
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late at night. Gary was sleeping. That's a gentleman who
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had experienced. Gary was sleeping next to me. I closed
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the book, I put the book on a bedside table,
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and then I switched a light off. Within twenty thirty seconds,
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small childlike hands grabbed my ankles and pulled me forcibly
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down the bed. I looked up and I saw three
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small gray beings standing at the foot of my bed.
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They released my ankles and they just melted through the walls.
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I am so sorry, mister Robinson. I now firmly believe
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that my husband did experience something on that age seventy road.
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So Jeremy, it was great to get that confirmation from
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his wife, who refused to initially believe him.
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You know, Gary and Colin, how did that affect them?
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The experience?
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Well, Gary past a BBC Lie detector test. He had
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to get cat scans. He had trouble with his body.
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He seems to be waking up at three o'clock every
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morning without fail. Affected Colin quite substantially. He had problems
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with his eyes, with his health. He had a skin
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condition that when he went to the door about my god,
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we don't know what this is. This is this is
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uncharted territory here and sadly Colin has went off the radar.
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He's just he doesn't want to talk about it anymore.
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his life together. He's in a very responsible position in
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Scotland and to this day, says Malcolm, I don't care
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what anybody says that happened to me. And I'm not
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seeking publicity. I don't want money. I just want to
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at least tell you this happened. And yeah, it's just
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one of these crazy stories that we hear all the time.
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Yeah, but there are other stories like those or somewhat
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like those.
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Yeah. I mean, I dare say that some of your
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listeners may be aware of the deatmond Woods case. Are
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you aware of that, Jeremy?
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Only because I see you've written a book about it.
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Okay, very briefly and for those who watched and listening
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to the show don't know about it. Long story short.
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Nineteen seventy nine, the year I fromed SBI forestry worker
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Robert Taylor was employed by the Livingston Development Corporation in
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central Scotland. This man, Jeremy, was a war hero. He
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went over to France from Britain on d Day five
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to fight against a Natzime menace in Europe. He also
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helped liberate bergen Belson, the Nazi concentration camp. After the war,
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we came over to back to Scotland, settled down, got
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a job in the forestry department. Another chap who had
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no interest in UFOs what soever, he had heard about
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the I'm like well have. In the morning of November ninth,
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nineteen seventy nine, he jumped into his pickup truck with
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his Irish red setter dog Lara. They drove to up
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to Deadmond Woods near Edinburgh and the alighted out of
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the truck, walked down a forestry path, trees to the left,
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trees to the right. Eventually it opened up to a
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clearing in the woods and he couldn't believe what he
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was looking at Abou's thirty yards away was this large
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dome shaped object with a flange going around this perimeter,
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with some kind of cross like projection sticking up from
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the flange. Then the object D materialized, solidified, d materialized.
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He could see the young trees in the background, and
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his dog was barking furiously beside him. He'd never seen
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the lights of this in his life. What is this?
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And then suddenly, as if this bizarre episode could not
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get any more bizarre, it did for what resembled two
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Second World War sea mines, those spherical balls with spikes
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that used to bobb in the North Atlantic shipping lens
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of any ship touched that bang similar to that, Two
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of them dropped down from beneath this hovering object, impacted
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on the grass and started rolling across the grass towards him.
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They stopped. They projected these rods towards his very person,
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grabbing them forcibly at the hips, and lifted them upwards,
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at which point he lost consciousness. When he regained consciousness,
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thank goodness, this larger object the smaller objects were gone,
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but in their place were over forty holes in the grass,
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including two track like marks. They had a nasty graze
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under his chin, he had a graze on his forehead,
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and a pounding headache, a terrible thirst. He stumbled back
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to his pickup truck to Phony's boss, but he couldn't speak.
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He somehow then managed to reverse the back wheels of
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the truck into a shallow ditch. He couldn't get out,
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so he left it suck in the woods, and he
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stumbled back to his home. And when his wife saw
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she went, what what's happened to you? Because his jersey
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was a muddy, his trousers were torn and long story shorts.
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She then called the local doctor who attended the family house.
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And the doctor, you know, he realized that this man
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had seen something. He's had an elevated heart rate. Now
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this is where it gets interesting, Jeremy, because the police,
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the Scottish police were called, why because it was an
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assault by person or persons are known, and the police
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cordoned off the area. I saw the mark nee grass
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I was there the following day. I interviewed a number
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of the police officers at that site, one of whom said, Malcolm,
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I know the man. He would never ever make up
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a story like that. Is sound as the day is long,
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truthful as it is long, and it's quite a spectacular case.
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And again I've only scratched the surface of this case.
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And it's again one of the many fantastic, low level
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close proximity settings we have of these unusual objects traversing
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the Scottish Scouts.
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And that was in nineteen seventy nine.
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That's correct, Yes, all right, we.
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Will pause with Malcolm Robinson, our guests tonight. Somewhere between
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the paranormal and the abnormal. I'm Jeremy Scods.
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Into the pair of normal pair and normal.
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Malcolm, you say you've had your own personal in cont
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with the supernatural or this strange or the unexplained. However,
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we'd like to refer to what you were telling us
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a little bit about that. But you've had encounters quite
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a few of them with ghosts from my understanding.
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Yeah, absolutely, I mean probably and probably one of the
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most scariest things I've ever seen in my life. And
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again it's a long story of try and make it brief.
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I lived in London and we used to hold SBI
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meetings in London and at the close of one lecture,
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a lady came up to me and said, Malcolm, would
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you like to see dead people? Well, there's the challenge,
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isn't it. So of course I said yeah, So we
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went to her house. A few weeks later, we went
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to her house. She took us upstairs and this bedroom
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was devoid of any furnishings of fittings apart from a tall,
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slender unit to bedroom unit and a small chest of drawers.
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At the corner of the room. From one corner to
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the other was a black drape. And I said, what's
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going on here? Oh, we've got a psychic medium. He'll
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be here shortly and he'll go into trance and strange
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things will happen. So I was there with my colleagues.
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We pulled up three or four chairs in front of
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this black cloth. This gentleman, this psychic guy, came up.
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I padded him down to ensure there he was not
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secreting any devices. He was fine, and he sat on
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this chair behind the black cloth. Now we strapped his
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arms and his legs with the velcro to make sure
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that he you know, you would he couldn't get out.
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Then we switched off the light. There was a red
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light on top of the slim bedroom unit, which allowed
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you to see each other, so it wasn't complete blackness.
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And then suddainly these voices, voices, male, female, young, old,
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coming from all over the room, under your chin, your arm,
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next to your legs. And I'm thinking, even though I
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believe in this, I'm thinking, who's throwing their voice here?
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And my colleagues they were shocked as much as I was.
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And then suddenly these little bells it was on the
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walls started to tinkle. And then suddenly this chest of
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dows which I could clearly see, nobody was near it, nobody.
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Suddenly it started to wabble. Now this chester of doors
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was next to this black cloth, with this psychic man
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behind the cloth, strapped to this chair. This chest of
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drawers wobbled. Then it slowly, of its own volition, moved
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up into the air of this room and hit the
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ceiling and slowly came across the ceiling and came down
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on my toes. And I wish, Jeremy you could have
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seen what I saw, because there were no trapdoors, no.
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Pull I'm good about that, Malcolm.
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And now this is where you know some of your
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listeners and viewers may find it funny, But this voice
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boomed out in the room. Was mister Robinson impressed by this?
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And I said to this this voice, I went, I'd
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be more impressed if you took it back. And then
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the voice replied, we shall see what we can do.
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Now I'd made a cardinal sin, Jeremy, you should never
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ever ever try and stop psychic phenomena happening, more so
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if it's relating to a medium in the room, so
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not to me. I put my finger under the lip
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of the top lid of this Chester drawers and I
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said to myself, you're going nowhere. I said, okay, take
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it away. Nothing happened. One minute, two minutes, nothing happened.
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Then suddenly it started to vibrate. Now, I swear to God, Jeremy,
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nobody was to the left, nobody was to the right
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of this Chester drawers. I could see it in the
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red ambient light, and it's suddenly starting to pull away
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from my finger, and I'm trying to pull it back,
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but I couldn't. It was like a hot knife through butter.
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It left my finger and rose up to the ceiling,
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rose across the ceiling and drop back to where it was.
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And at that point, a tremendous burst of cold wind
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pervaded the small back bedroom. It was like, you know,
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if you were in the Arctic or something, their breath
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was freezing up in front of you. The sad thing
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is Jeremy, nice story. Yeah, but do I have proof?
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Do I have proof for Joe skeptic? Sadly, the lady
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of the house would not allow us to bring in
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any cameras or any recording equipment. And I'm one of
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these guys. I want evidence yesterday. And if I had
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had the technology, I would have wore a small button
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in for a red camera and I wouldn't tell her.
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I know that's that's terrible, but that's me. I would
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have done that, you.
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Know, Yeah, whatever it takes. I guess did you once
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have an experience with some levitating shoes?
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Yes, that's correct. Again, I was just a young boy.
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I can't remember, maybe nine or ten, I can't remember.
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A long, long while ago, and my mother brought in
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a pair of lovely black patent shoes. Here you go, son,
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I bought these shoes for you. Now, Jeremy, I didn't
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like them, you know, I didn't like these shoes. Oh
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it was terrible. So I got these shoes and I
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threw them down towards this city, which was against the window,
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against the front living room window. Now, I swear to
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God and I'll never ever ever forget this. The shoes
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stopped in Midaia. Before they hit the city, they rose
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up into the air and smashed through the living room window.
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My mother had turned away at this point, and she
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turned back quickly and she said, why did you do that?
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Why did you smash it? I didn't. So is it
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some form of energy or something that made this happen?
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You know, I've had so many strange, bizarre things happen
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in my life, and I guess that's what put me
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on this journey of exploration, is to try and find
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out the sense from the nonsense. It's like one of
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these big grids, you know, you shake it will the
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dirt and all the dirt is going through the mesh,
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and then some stones won't go through the wire mesh.
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The same analogy as like the paranormal will trying to
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get rid of the nonsense, to show the public that
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wait a minute, these things are real. You may laugh,
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you may joke, but these things are very very real.
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And I say to skip, you know, do you drive
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a car. Yes, I drive a car. What's that to
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do with anything? How did you learn to drive a car?
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Well?
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Well, I studied the highway code? Thank you? What do
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you mean? Thank you? It's the same with the paranormal.
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Once you immerse yourself in the ufology and get rid
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of the nonsense, you soon find out there is indeed
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a case to be answered. And that's you know, it's
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one of these things that drives me to this day.
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We're asking questions and but for me, these things are real,
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but it's the agenda that puzzles me.
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What have you learned through finding these stories in your
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local area but also around the world.
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I think it's fair to say that, you know, what's
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occurring here in Scotland is consistent with what's going on
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the world over. And what I mean by that is
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obviously back in the thirties and forties, the food fighters,
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ghost rockets of Scandinavia, we had the claims of Georgia
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Damscary and all these different things. But then we come
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to the eighties. In Belgium we have the triangles, and
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in America we've had so many cases of large, black,
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silent triangular craft floating silently and effortless, effortlessly across the
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Scottish the American skies. The point I'm making here is
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that we too, here in Scotland have had these large
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black triangular craft. Now are we dealing with our own
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black budget technology. We may well be. Some of the
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things it's been seen in the skies across planet Earth
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may well be our own technology. But I would not
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be interested or not be here dealing with the UFO
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enigma if I didn't honestly believe that there's something else.
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It's not all our own technology, because you know, the
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difference between what we're seeing in the skies in the
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past ten years is certainly different from anything we could manufacture,
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I believe. And if we are manufacturing these fast moving
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objects called tick tack, go fast or gimbal, then why
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we're not using it in the theater of war? Why
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we're not using it to advance mankinds, you know, trek
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into space or advanced man's flight. We could be profiting
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from this amazing technology, but it doesn't seem to be
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that way. It seems like these objects are off Earth. Now,
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are the interdn mensional? Do they have bases under the planet,
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under the oceans, of this planet. We know so little
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about the Mariana Trench, the deepest part of you know
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of the of the planet. We know more about the
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surface of the Moon than what we do, what's under
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our own airth.
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Solutions Malcolm Robinson as we are at the end of
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the hour, but we'll continue with him.
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Follow and like Into the Pair of Normal on social media.
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We are on Facebook, x Threads, Instagram, and Blue Sky.
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There's a parallel universe.
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Fail the separations. While we received silogy.
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Over the game and the truth.
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Be known, it's falling.
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Into the pan into the.
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Into the Pair Abnormal, Jerem Scott somewhere between the para
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normal and out.
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We will be in Mcmanville on Friday for UFO Fest.
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Come out to the live broadcast if you can join
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us ufofest dot com to get your tickets for the
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other events that will be taking place throughout the weekend.
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We'd love to see you out in the bounce and
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if not on the radio, we'll talk to you from McMinnville,
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Oregon on Friday. We get a travel day tomorrow, so
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we'll be bringing you the best of Into the Pair
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Abnormal from mcminimon's UFO Fest if you haven't heard our
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live broadcast from there in the past, you are in
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for a treat. Should be a blast. Look forward to
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seeing everybody out there. We're talking with Malcolm Robinson and tonight,
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who is the Scottish UFO and paranormal researcher, lecture and
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author founded Strange Phenomena Investigations. Is that new book, Testimonies
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of the Supernatural is all encompassing. It's talking about strange
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tales from around the world. And as far as that
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is concerned, did you find any common themes or patterns
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that connect some of these phenomena together.
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I've found a number of differences, you know, with some cases, certainly.
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I mean when you look at the seventy abduction case
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I spoke about earlier, there were differences in some of
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these small creatures. Now what I mean by that, Jeremy,
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was that Gary said that some of these small beings
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had red, blue, and green perforations under these black and
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Kyeleman shaped ees. No, we don't see to have that
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in any other worldwide report, or if we do, certainly
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I'm not aware of them. And one of these creatures
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Gary saw coming out of a pool of liquid gel
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from the craft of this object. And I said, Gary,
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you've drawn what appears to be ribs on one of
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these weak creatures. And I says, do you think that's
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what it is? These we guys, you know, is it ribs?
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And he says, maybe not ribs. I think it's heavy
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folds of skin. So what I'm saying here is Germany
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that in some of these abduction cases it's not always consistent.
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They are indeed certain themes which are consistent, there's certain
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differences as well. I mean again with that a seventy case.
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And I'm just going to tell you as it is. Gary,
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I said to Gary the witnesses, anything else happened to
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you as the years have rolled by, Gary, Yes, it has,
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pray tell So I'm about to say, you know, you
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may find incredulous, but I'm going to tell you anyway.
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Gary says he woke up in earliers of the morning
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and he says, Malcolm, I wasn't sleeping. I woke up.
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I don't know what woke me up, but I woke
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up and what did I see? I saw one of
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these small gray creatures at the foot of my bed,
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and Gary told me. He says, Malcolm, this is when
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he said, this is my domain, this is my house.
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You are not getting away with this, he says. I
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pulled back the bed sheets, I jumped out of my
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bed and I ran towards this small gray being and
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I punched him, and this gray being tumbled like a summrsaut,
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the summersault, you know, like an acrobat, tumbled backwards, and
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he stood up and he faced me, and he ran
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towards me in an explosion of light. And the next
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thing I knew, Malcolm, this is what he was telling me.
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Next thing I know, I woke up on the floor
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of my my bedroom and I says, Gary, come on,
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are you sure? Are you sure? This wasn't a dame
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missus Malcolm, it wasn't. And just while I'm on that
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case again, some years after the main event, in nineteen
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ninety two, he was driving somewhere else in Scotland in
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a lonely country road. He had his two sons in
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the back of the car, and then suddenly this big
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ball of light came over the hood of the car,
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penetrated the glass of the front of the car and
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entered into their car, exploding in a minimid delight. And
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Gary said to himself. My god, no, no, no, no, please, no,
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not my kids, not my kids. But it then veered
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away and it left the car. There was no evidence
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of any missing time. And Gary says, was it bawl lightning?
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I said, well, no, I don't think so by the
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way you're describing it. So getting back to your point there, Jeremy,
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you know that they're offshoots. They're offshoots of certain cases
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that happens. It could be months to a year.
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Later additional experiences. Once you have one experience, that opens
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the door to another.
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Very much so, I mean in my research, and I'm
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sure other people have noticed this as well, But when
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they look at some of the abductees, it follows like
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a family tree. You know, it happened to their father
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and their father's father. Why is that what they claim?
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You know, people claim that they're taking sperm and over
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from males and females to repopulate a dying planet, and
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it sounds preposterous. However, why are they're still doing it.
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They've been doing it for over forty years. Surely they
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have enough genetic information that they don't need to do
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something like that. So clearly there's something else that work here.
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I'm reminded of the case in Australia Marine Ploddy. She
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had seen a lot of UFOs and she had two
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Australian researchers in the back of the cart a UFO
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hotspot and she said to the researchers, they're coming, they'll
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be here any minute, they're coming. I'm going, I'm going,
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And she said she was away. Now the researcher said,
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she never left a car. She was still sitting there.
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So can we speculate that they didn't take her physical body.
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They took maybe a spiritual or etheric body that was
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what was abducted, not her physical self. I mean, we've
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just got so many questions and we don't truly have
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the answers, And if anybody says they do, then I
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don't believe them.
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So there are ones that accounts that you've heard throughout
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the years that are well particularly difficult to explain.
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Yeah, you'll always get the the cases which is difficult
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to explain. But my philosophy in life is never ever
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throw the baby out with the bathwater. In other words,
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you know, let's look at it, let's have a look
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at this. Let's see if they're trying to get five
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minutes of fame, and they're trying to create this hope story.
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And all my over forty six years of research, never
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has anybody tried to pull the will over my eyes.
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It's just been by people wanting answers. I'm not an expert.
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The media say, mister robinsons that, no, I'm not. I'm
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just a guy. He's got this deep held fascination for
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these wonderful, wonderful subjects. And all we're trying to do
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is get answers and we try our best to alleviate
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the fears of the witnesses or you know, there's only
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come back and coming back, and obviously we don't know
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if that's going to happen, but we can do our
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best to pacify this years as best we can.
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What about cases or stories you've come across that have
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personally been unsettling.
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To you?
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Do you have any few of those?
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We do and did, and I mean probably one of
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the most controversial cases that occurred in Scotland simply because
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of what the witness claims was what's known as the
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Falkland Hill UFO incident, and that occurred in central Scotland,
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an area known as Fife Fifi. Now, the story goes
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that in September twenty third, nineteen ninety six, Mary Morrison
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and her friend Jane. Yeah, that's right, Jane, they had
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ran out of coffee. Now they lived in a farmhouse. Again,
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it was just fields all around. They ran out of coffee. Okay,
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let's go to the local shop about a mile away.
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So they jumped in the car, Mary and their friend
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and their ten year old son Peter. So they're driving
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along this country road and then suddenly this large black
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triangle which we spoke about earlier came into view.
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All right, we gotta pause. I understand this is Scotland's
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most controversial UFO case, the Falkland Hill UFO incident. Will
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continue with Malcolm Robinson.
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Into the pair of normal.
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All right, in the year nineteen ninety six in Fife.
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I do believe that's correct.
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Yeah, all right. This is a triangle object.
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It is.
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And you know, they're driving along this road and they
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saw this large black triangular craft which was hovering part
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over the road and part over a farmer's field. They
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stopped a car to get out to look at this thing.
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And suddenly this object admitted two tubular lights. It descended
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from beneath this craft and illuminated part of the farmer's
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field and the part of the road as well. Now
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this is not a busy road, Jeremy, this is just
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a small ber road we call it in Scotland. And
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then it just lifted up into the air and was gone.
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On the way back from that shop, they saw the
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same or similar object coming very very fast towards her car,
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so fast that young Peter, who was sitting in the
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backseat of the car was screaming out, it's going to crash,
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It's going to crash into us. Thankfully veered off. So
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they went back to the farmhouse, where Jane told her daughter,
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You'll never believe what we've just seen tonight. What one
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of those stupid UFO things. Oh, don't be silly, there's
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no such things as UFOs. And so they convinced Susan
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to come out and see perhaps they might see this again.
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So Susan enjoyed Peter, Mary and Jane in the car
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and they drove about a mile to this wooded area
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and coming up from these woods were red, blue and
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green tubular lights. It's like the illuminations in London during
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the Second World war, where they illuminated the underbellies of
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the German bombers as they dropped bombs on London, big
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00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:44.440
tubular lights coming up from this forest, red blue and green,
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and we wolver is this they lived in this area, Jeremy.
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They have never seen this before. And this is where
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00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:57.719
it gets bizarre, because in front of this these woods
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was a blue, hazy miss and once that missed evaporated,
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what they were left looking at was not ten, it
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was not twenty, it was not fifty. She claims, about
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one hundred small gray beings. In this farmer's field. They
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were carrying boxes and cylinders back towards the woods, where
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00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:25.639
they could make out a structured object nestling in the woods.
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00:53:26.239 --> 00:53:28.960
To the left and to the right of this amazing
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00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:35.840
scene they saw taller beings, probably about ten twelve feet tall,
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00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:39.320
slim gray beings as if they were in charge. And
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one of these beings gently raised its back of its
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00:53:42.519 --> 00:53:45.519
hand to the earth and raised it back up again.
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Also in this farmer's field was a ball of white light.
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00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:51.519
Goodness knows what that was doing there, but that's what
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00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:55.960
they saw. And a nearby hill they saw an orange ball.
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Above this hill, it was like electrostatic making a noise,
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and there was all these lights hanging about the field
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as well. At that point they began to get scared,
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more so because this is a controversial part. They claimed
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that moving across this failed in taste in what it
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was like. If you can imagine a soap bubble, but
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00:54:21.079 --> 00:54:24.800
imagine that soap bubble about five six seven feet tall.
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Inside of these soap light bubbles were two small gray
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beings being propelled and what sounds crazy, being propelled across
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00:54:33.559 --> 00:54:37.280
this farmer's field. At that point they jumped back into
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the car. Susan, who was a disbeliever, screamed out. She
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said she saw a small gray being next to the car.
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That night and subsequent nights thereafter, Mary had run a
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bath for her son. Her son was upstairs ready to
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go into a bath. Mary was on the phone to
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someone and all she heard was ah Ma'm come quick,
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come quick. She threw the phone down. She bounded up
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the stairs and burst into the bathroom to see her
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00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:13.280
son crying uncontrollably in the bathrooms. So what's the matter?
809
00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:18.079
What is it? And her son says, suddenly, this this
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pearly white this white being just suddenly appeared in the bathroom.
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Now the difference. We spoke earlier, Jeremy about some of
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the differences and similarities. This little gray a jagged teeth,
813
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spiky jagged teeth. Now, if anybody is awarediness, please let
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me know. On another occasion, ten year old Peter was
815
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in his bedroom playing with these little car toys on
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the carpet. He was in the bedroom was his ten
817
00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:52.360
year old friend. And his ten year old friend turned
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00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:56.239
round and said to David, eh, but what's what's that
819
00:55:56.360 --> 00:55:59.440
out the window? And Day would turn round and there
820
00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:06.559
was a small being free floating outside the bedroom window. Now,
821
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there were not an outhouse there, there was not a
822
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gable end, there was nothing to support excuse me, this
823
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small being. He was just free floating and then he
824
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just disappeared. Over the course soo many weeks, that family
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saw a number of UFOs in the vicinity, some of
826
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which allegedly were chased by tornado jets. And she also
827
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had a ghost dog in the house. She has cats,
828
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and they heard a slurping noise from coming from the
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cat's bowl, and they looked round expecting to see the cat,
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you know, licking water from the bowl. They never saw
831
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anything other than a displacement of water magically being displaced
832
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by absolutely nothing. And I could go on all night
833
00:56:55.400 --> 00:56:58.320
about that case. It is quite controversial. And of again,
834
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because of time limited, we've only scratched the surface with that.
835
00:57:03.760 --> 00:57:06.199
And again, why is it so controversial just because it
836
00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:10.920
includes so many different aspects that could be you know, unsettling.
837
00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:17.400
Well, probably the most controversial aspect of this case, and
838
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:21.519
I am not embarrassed or afraid to tell you, is
839
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the following. The little boy says Malcolm, I woke up
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and I was getting ready to school and there was
841
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a little gray being in my bedroom. Okay, then what happened?
842
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:37.599
He came to school with me? How do you mean
843
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:39.639
in a bus or a cat in a taxi?
844
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Yeah?
845
00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:41.719
How did he get there with you?
846
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And then he says it helped him with a school project.
847
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:49.920
And I said to Peter, did none of your classmates
848
00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:51.159
see this little gray being?
849
00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:51.400
No?
850
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:52.239
Just me?
851
00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:55.519
And again we have to consider the fact that young
852
00:57:55.679 --> 00:57:59.639
children can see, imagine their friends, imagine their playmates. Dogs
853
00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:03.400
and cats can see and hear different frequencies and different colors.
854
00:58:03.800 --> 00:58:07.920
That doesn't mean to say is lying, but it's quite controversial. Incidentally,
855
00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:11.599
his mother and a friend had strange bruises on their
856
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buttocks and under their breasts, which previously were not there.
857
00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:19.280
But here's the rub. When I was interviewing the son
858
00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:24.000
and the mother, little the way boys said, Malcolm, why
859
00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:27.559
don't you ask the aliens why you're here tonight? I went,
860
00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:31.519
what do you mean? He says, there's three of them
861
00:58:31.639 --> 00:58:36.199
standing at the window. So I immediately turned round them
862
00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:40.320
my seat, as did my fellow investigators, and fingers crossed
863
00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:45.039
in high expectation of capturing something with their cameras. To
864
00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:49.679
me met my nothing. Nothing was there. And I turned
865
00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:51.440
round and I looked at his mother, and I says,
866
00:58:52.280 --> 00:58:58.360
can you see anything? Yes, what do you see? A shimmering?
867
00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:00.199
What do you mean?
868
00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:05.079
It's like, he's Malcolm, It's like and our road. You
869
00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:07.400
see the shimmering just above the roads. And I know,
870
00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:12.719
I know if I look too long at this shimmering,
871
00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:16.280
I too will see one of these grave beings. And
872
00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:19.599
she was convinced, Jeremy, you know, she said that she
873
00:59:19.840 --> 00:59:22.760
saw these things, and so I mean that was quite
874
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:28.000
controversial as well, but it's I don't know of many cases.
875
00:59:28.039 --> 00:59:30.440
It's seen over a hundred gray beings at one time.
876
00:59:31.239 --> 00:59:35.400
Yeah, there's a lot Malcolm Robinson with us. We're not
877
00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:38.360
quite done yet with the program, so stick with us
878
00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:42.360
for more of a conversation somewhere between the paranormal and
879
00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:47.320
the abnormal. I'm Jeremy Scott's into the pair of noormal.
880
00:59:57.719 --> 01:00:01.079
He's a newscast so wild you will keep coming back
881
01:00:01.159 --> 01:00:05.000
for more. Pair of normal news with George Henry is
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01:00:05.119 --> 01:00:06.559
next on into.
883
01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:28.440
The pair of normal Mothership Connected.
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01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:38.239
I'm Jeremy Scott with the Malcolm Robinson. We were talking
885
01:00:38.280 --> 01:00:44.840
about the Falkland Hill incident in Fife, Scotland in nineteen
886
01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:50.480
ninety six. Malcolm, you mentioned I think these witnesses, but
887
01:00:50.679 --> 01:00:55.760
in general there were other events around Fife as well.
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01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:59.679
Yeah, absolutely absolutely. You know, with any given y for
889
01:00:59.840 --> 01:01:03.079
this search that we undertake, we always look for any
890
01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:08.159
possible other witnesses, of which incidentally there were many. You know,
891
01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:13.599
many witnesses came forward through newspaper requests and then we
892
01:01:13.800 --> 01:01:16.480
matched them with what had been seen in the area
893
01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:20.440
as well. So that was good verification and it just
894
01:01:20.920 --> 01:01:24.519
builds a picture of something was going on. It would
895
01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:28.400
appear that there's certain areas of Scotland we call them
896
01:01:28.559 --> 01:01:33.079
a hot spots or window areas which seemed to attract
897
01:01:33.559 --> 01:01:38.119
a higher concentration of YFO reports and anywhere else, one
898
01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:42.719
of which was in course bonnie Bridge in Stirlingshire, again
899
01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:46.840
in the central belt of Scotland, and then that happened
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01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:50.679
from nineteen ninety two. It's still ongoing, but not as
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01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:54.840
much as it was between nineteen ninety two to nineteen
902
01:01:54.920 --> 01:02:01.000
ninety six. We myself and a councilor, Billy Bucher, went
903
01:02:01.119 --> 01:02:06.119
down to various Prime Ministers with petitions during the nineties
904
01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:11.079
and early two thousands seeking explanations, seeking them to come
905
01:02:11.400 --> 01:02:15.159
to Scotland where we would open up our files regarding
906
01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:18.679
the UFO sightings across bonnie Bridge. We tried to get
907
01:02:18.679 --> 01:02:22.440
an audience with Gordon Brown, John Major, Tony Blair, David
908
01:02:22.519 --> 01:02:27.599
Cameron and Richie Sunak, and it all fell on deaf ears.
909
01:02:28.199 --> 01:02:33.039
What they said, Jeremy his stock standard. What they said
910
01:02:33.280 --> 01:02:38.679
was as these objects do not constitute a threat to
911
01:02:38.840 --> 01:02:42.880
the defense of the United Kingdom, the British Government will
912
01:02:43.039 --> 01:02:47.280
not seek to open up any governmental inquiries into the
913
01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:51.440
UFO sightings over Bonniebridge and still and share and we
914
01:02:51.599 --> 01:02:55.239
were very very upset about this. Geremany because some of
915
01:02:55.320 --> 01:02:59.519
the witnesses, says Malcolm, these things were so close you
916
01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:02.760
could have thrown a stone at them. And I'll give
917
01:03:02.800 --> 01:03:04.760
you a quick for instance. You know, we had a
918
01:03:05.599 --> 01:03:09.199
chap called Ray Prosec who was driving in his car
919
01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:15.679
towards Castle Carry Railway viaduct. It's a viaduct with large
920
01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:20.920
expanses arches, and this was near bonnie Bridge, so he's
921
01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:24.079
can you imagine You're driving along the road. Then suddenly
922
01:03:24.360 --> 01:03:28.960
again you see one of these large black triangular craft
923
01:03:29.920 --> 01:03:35.519
suddenly appeared above the parapet of this viaduct, and then
924
01:03:35.559 --> 01:03:39.960
it was joined by a secondary similar triangle and they
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01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:44.239
were point to point. So he is slowing down his vehicle,
926
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he's got his nose against the windscreen, peeling out, trying
927
01:03:48.239 --> 01:03:51.079
to see as much as he can. All the other
928
01:03:51.239 --> 01:03:54.599
motorists on the road are slowing down and peering through
929
01:03:54.639 --> 01:03:59.519
their windscreen looking at these objects and bang, you're both
930
01:03:59.639 --> 01:04:03.119
slowly rose up into the air and we're gone. And
931
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we had another gentleman who was in the bonnie Bridge area.
932
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He was driving towards Stirling, which is one of the
933
01:04:10.159 --> 01:04:14.840
larger towns in central Scotland, and again it was all
934
01:04:15.159 --> 01:04:18.639
you know, farmland and he's driving along the road. He
935
01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:21.760
had his sons in the back seat, and suddenly one
936
01:04:21.800 --> 01:04:25.719
of his sons screamed out to his father, who was driving, Dad, Dad,
937
01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:29.440
what's that? And his father looked rowned to the left
938
01:04:29.559 --> 01:04:32.000
side of the vehicle and there was a like a
939
01:04:32.199 --> 01:04:37.360
hat shaped UFO jet black with three green lights on
940
01:04:37.480 --> 01:04:42.639
its underside. And he knew straight away this wasn't an
941
01:04:42.679 --> 01:04:46.880
aircrafter helicopter. But before he could do anything about it,
942
01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:55.000
he said, suddenly an instantaneous door shaped fog bank appeared
943
01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:59.400
in front of his car about fifty yards away, and
944
01:04:59.559 --> 01:05:03.199
it was only on his side of the road. It
945
01:05:03.360 --> 01:05:07.519
was very sharply defined, so if you can imagine Jeremy
946
01:05:07.840 --> 01:05:12.880
a door, oh, misty and foggy, but sharply defined. He
947
01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:15.880
didn't understand what this was, and as the car drove
948
01:05:16.039 --> 01:05:20.480
through this effect, both himself and his son's experience like
949
01:05:20.679 --> 01:05:25.880
tiny pinpricks, like needles sticking into every part of their body.
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And you know, there's so many cases relating to some
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bizarre events in bonnie Bridge. It is a hot spot,
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it is a window area. Why why should it be
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subjected to these crazy UFO settings. Well, it's something We're
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still twenty ascertain.
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Absolutely, this is some wild stuff. Has nothing surprises you
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much anymore? I can imagine?
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No, probably not. You know, I hear a lot of
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strange story as I expect to hear a lot of
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strange stories. It would be silly if they were not.
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But like I said before, you know, you've got to
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take every incident with a touch a pinch of salt
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until you can certainly classify the validity of any given statement.
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But my god, my god, we're dealing me something. We're
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dealing me something off earth. I honestly believe that each
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and every one of us will see our mothers and fathers,
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or brothers or sisters who have passed before us. That
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there is a life after death. There is this validity
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of an afterlife. It sounds bizarre, I know it does,
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you know. And I've been in situations where I've experienced
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a lot of stuff, and I know that I'm not
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in drugs or anything like that. When you have the
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personal experiences, then you just know, you just know that
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these are real.
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You know, Malcolm, we so appreciate you coming on the program,
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especially at this hour. Again, tell the audience about your books,
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about your Facebook group how they can contact you.
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Yeah, absolutely, Well, I've written fifteen books. We don't write
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books to make money, because you don't make money. I
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write books to get these stories out. Somebody somewhere will say,
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you know what that happened to me, and they'll get
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in touch. It's like a jigsaw. So I've written books aboutness,
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about ghost sporter guys, UFOs. They you can reach me
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on my Facebook page. It's Malcolm Robinson. And all I
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would ask each and every one of you listening to
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this show is just to please keep an open mind
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because the world is certainly far more stranger than we
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can ever imagine. And I thank you again Jeremy for
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having me on this showful and I think you're doing
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a wonderful, wonderful job, sir.
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Well, thank you. Guests like you make it easy for
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me to sit here and and ask the questions. Very
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fascinating though the stories I must say that we heard
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from Malcolm tonight and lots of detail to them. Some
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of the stories that we hear are very very blend.
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Not these ones tonight, we knew they were going to
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be good. We'll continue our program friends, Somewhere between the
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Paranormal and the Abnormal. I'm Jeremy Scott.
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Into the Pair of Abnormal.
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Next time we talked to you on into the Pair
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Abnormally will be our annual broadcast for the fifth year
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down at Mcminnimon's UFO Fest. That is our fifth straight
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live broadcast. We've been there since twenty eighteen, bringing you
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the sights and sounds of what is a wonderful event
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celebrating its twenty sixth year. It would be seventy six
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years since a famous UFO siding, which is the whole
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reason for gathering. To celebrate the sighting, bring in speakers
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and we'll be talking with several of them on the
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live radio broadcasts. So for those who will join us
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in person, make sure you get out to Hotel Oregon
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early to grab a seat because they will fill up
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early and then it will be standing room only. The
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broadcast will run about ninety minutes from beginning to end.
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Just a note there for those who are attending so
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you can plan out the rest of your day. I
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hope to see you around mcmnville. I'll be there on
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Friday and Saturday hanging around attending the events. Understand there
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could be some breaking news that comes Friday night through
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a whistleblower that will be brought out by Jeremy Corbel
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and George Knapp. So whatever comes of that, I'll make
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sure I report on any developments that come from mcminimon's
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UFO Fest in McMinnville, Oregon. So go to ufofest dot
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com if you're planning to join us on the radio broadcast.
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It's obviously free to come on out and just listen,
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but make sure you get there early. And if you
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want to check out any of the other events, go
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to ufofest dot com. They've got a full schedule there.
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From the cold artemps of a secret dungeon somewhere deep
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in the remote Pacific Northwest, I'm Jeremy Scott until we
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talked to you at mcminimum's UFO Fest good Night in
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god Blins.
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A sort of satya batata