Jez: Welcome, welcome, welcome and thank you for joining us for another episode of In The Mood For A Movie. I'm your host Jeremy and joining me always is my brother Brad. Be rad. How are you mate? Really well thanks. Good week. How is FozWatch going?
Bradley Inder: Good mate, how you going? Foz watch, she's still going strong. Still going strong. What, top four now?
Jez: think so, and it was at like 60 to, we got 50 last week, didn't we? Put 50 on. I saw a stat that with, we've won every game 13 plus, it's more like 20 plus, apart from when we lost to the Panthers who were coming first, and we lost by two.
Bradley Inder: aww smash them, smash them Yeah, well, I mean, we talked about it earlier in the year, you know, potential premierships. So I don't know, man. Let's see how we go. Probably not, but there's always hope.
Jez: Tottenham going to go down in the Premier League last week to make it happen.
Bradley Inder: I don't know. I thought they were gonna go down, but I think West Ham probably gonna go down
Jez: Yeah. Surely Everton play their best team don't they for the chance to knock Titanum down.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, of course they do of course they do so it'll be it'll be good. It'd be a good one to watch I think
Jez: Brad, this guy has got a lot of fucking books. ⁓ Before summary?
Bradley Inder: ⁓ Robert a quite ex-operative trying to live a normal life unleashes his lethal precision to dismantle the Russian mob ⁓ after young woman he befriends is brutally exploited. ⁓
Jez: Great, so set in 2014. Brad, what were you doing in 2014?
Bradley Inder: ⁓ Not much, I think. ⁓ I was 31, I just got into my elder years. But yeah, just settling in I think to a more sort of quiet life post 20s, how about yourself?
Jez: Yeah, think I was just back from Europe and I was working for a sports tourism company. So that was a bit of fun, but some...
Bradley Inder: Is that when you're the bluehead New South Wales origin? Yeah.
Jez: ⁓ yeah, Blatchy's Blues. We've got State of Erosion coming up this week so I didn't even ask you. What's thoughts on the team?
Bradley Inder: ⁓ I don't know. don't think they didn't pick positions properly Isn't they picked like a whole bunch of like fullbacks and stuff to play on the wings and everything? Is that right?
Jez: I don't know. No, I don't think so. All I know is that they picked Teddy over Edwards at fullback, which is okay. Yeah, I don't know. I don't love the team, but I think we've got a couple of injuries as well, but their team also doesn't look too crash hot.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, I mean, all the kawaii's in it, that's all that matters to me, guess.
Jez: Yeah, exactly the big fella. Well, some other things that were happening in 2014 to get back on topic. Scotland voted to stay in the UK, Muppets. I'm pretty sure that movement was funded by some guy that won the European bill, like the billion dollar European powerball lotto. Like what a waste of money. MH370 vanishes. A fairy sunk in South Korea, killing over 300 people. A probe landed on a comet for the first time. I thought that was pretty cool. Ice bucket challenge, Brad, did you the ice bucket challenge?
Bradley Inder: Nah, that was so stupid. Did you ever do it?
Jez: No, I don't think so. ⁓ I did the other one, but I can't remember what that one was called. ⁓ the neck and nominate one. Germany won the world cup in Brazil. Seven one. What an ass kicking. ⁓ yeah. Russia held the winter Olympics, ⁓ before annexing Crimea, Crimea, cheeky buggers.
Bradley Inder: Ha I remember that, that was brutal, brutal to watch. That last Olympics?
Jez: Apple Watch was launched, ⁓ Ellen Selfie at the Oscars before everyone turned on it. Frozen was released, Taylor Swift 1989 was released and Pharrell's Happy was the top of the charts. Before we get into the movies that were released that year, anything else exciting or worth noting?
Bradley Inder: Yeah, well, Worth Notting, not exciting, but sadly Robin Williams, Philip Seymour Hoffman and Joan Rivers all passed away that year. So that was sad year. ⁓ But on a positive note, True Detective, that debuted that year. Do remember that? True Detective, did you see that? Wow, what a show, man. was unbelievable. Season one was great, the rest, but yeah, season one was fantastic.
Jez: ⁓ no. Yeah, it's good. Yeah, yeah. Well, you didn't like Colin Fowle going around and beating up the bully for his fat redhead son.
Bradley Inder: I just I sat there I thought what the hell am I watching? This is so bad
Jez: So some notable movies which were released in 2014. Inherent Vice, Chef, Fox Catcher, Whiplash, Birdman. The Grand Budapest Hotel, Interstellar, Gone Girl, Nightcrawler, The Lego Movie, John Wick, Edge of Tomorrow, ⁓ X-Men, Days Future Past, Guardians of the Galaxy, Transformers, Age of Extinction, Captain America, Winter Soldier. As you can see by some of those last ones, we're starting ⁓ to get the ⁓ peak of comic book slash franchise ⁓ era. And a lot of those movies as well, you'll also note are like trilogies. ⁓ And this movie sort of resembles a little bit of that franchise era as well and maybe comic book-ish. Any other notable movies, Brad?
Bradley Inder: Just one more we didn't mention American sniper. That was I think you like that you like that one, too. Yeah. Yeah I was gonna say sorry just shout out. think my favorite movies I'll ask you as well, but my favorite movies I think from that year probably American sniper nightcrawler man. I love that movie. That's that is so good ⁓ And yeah, how about you any good any good call-out movies for the map?
Jez: I have great movie. Yeah, it's good movie. What do you love it? Yeah, Interstellar, Edge of Tomorrow I really like, Gone Girl, John Wick, Kicks Ass, and I also like Inherent Vice, love my PTA. ⁓ Apparently, think I have to go back and watch Captain America Winter Soldier because everyone tells me that's the best one but it was kind of meh, so maybe I need to watch it again. Brad, what do you love about action movies?
Bradley Inder: I love a good action movie. We talking about it, think it was in the last pod, with comedies and stuff. You don't really have to think too much, you can just sit there and enjoy it. I think you and I, probably in particular, speaking on behalf of yourself, but we grew up watching action movies as influenced by our father and his dear friend, John Borsla. They always go into action movies. I think it's such cool genre especially for us like in the 90s you know like t2 stuff like that yeah man I love a good action movie just something where the you know some some good guys just blown away street trash it's just the best man I love it
Jez: Yeah, look, echoing that, like I think I grew up watching action movies a lot earlier than I should have. But I loved every second of it. I also really love how you were kind of saying that, you can incorporate humor into action as well, you can, action also doesn't just have to be like bang, bang, gun, guns explosion, you know, like days of thunder, I would classify as an action movie, top gun, an action movie. Like it can be so many different things, which is really cool. ⁓
Bradley Inder: Yeah.
Jez: I had a list of a couple of just faves and I don't think this is like a proper list, but Die Hard, Under Siege, Terminator, Predator. ⁓ I love a good heist action movie as well. And then some of those early Michael Bay action movies are just amazing. Get that American flag waving with smoke and frigging flames just going up in the background. It's just great. I'm really glad they're still making them like this one being a trilogy, John Wick being a trilogy. I don't know if you saw Rebel Ridge. I think it was last year or the year before it came out. Like that was. awesome as well.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, I haven't seen Rebel Ridge, but yeah, I mean, as soon as you start to mention some of those movies, you're just plucking at my heartstrings. mean, you know, Terminator, Predator, Die Hard. ⁓ I even classify like Aliens, like the second one, as like a bit of an action movie and stuff too. man, it's just, it's just good. And like you said, like it doesn't, you know, I sort of referenced it before, like in a Blowing Away Street Trash. It doesn't have to be just that. It can be clever too. And you know, if you chuck like an Arnold Schwarzenegger and he's got like all those little one liners that are. ⁓ funny and very thematic and they just they just sit with you for like for the rest of your years like yeah just some good stuff
Jez: Yeah, so the equalizer as I mentioned originated ⁓ from a 1980s TV series. I had seen this quite a few times. Brad, you had not seen it before. I would love to get your thoughts on the movie.
Bradley Inder: Well, I guess I can overarching sort of comment would be where has this been all my life? ⁓ I'm sad that I missed it, but I'm glad that I have watched it now. But I think for me, you know, sat down, turned it on, had it open with like a ⁓ movie, like a movie quote, a quote like from Mark Twain there. Man, I love a movie that opens with like a quote. ⁓ They don't really do it much anymore, but it was so good. But ⁓ I like the vigilante justice. ⁓ I think the movie was brilliantly directed, which I'll get into a bit later. And it just, it's funny. It just vibe with me with other movies that I have seen and I'm like, Oh, that sort of reminds me of this and it sort of reminds me of that. So I think, you know, for me personally, like I always, know, whenever I meet people, I always like to take the best of people like, as in like this person does that well and that person does that well. And you know, I'm going to incorporate that into what I do. And this movie, I feel like it goes it does that like it takes the best of this kind of genre of movie and the best of that and it's Seen another movie do that and I'll take that So yeah, I really liked it. I thought it was um. I thought it was pretty cool
Jez: Yeah, awesome. I'm looking forward to everyone. Shock. Brad also hasn't seen John Wick. So I'm looking forward to seeing we're going to yeah, same year. And they're like very, very similar movies. One's about I guess, someone does a girl wrong in John Wick without spoiling too much. Someone does a dog wrong and it gets them both back into ⁓ out of retirement, I guess. As you said, I love the slow start like the setup of Denzel's character or Robert's character. And then from the
Bradley Inder: I haven't seen John Wick in seven years, has Lay.
Jez: 25 minute mark we're on it's just like as he's kind of going into that rushing guys office I think it's like 26 10 to be honest with you. You just like this is great But I love it how like at the start, you know, you're showing Robert at work Robert playing baseball got a couple thoughts on that Robert helping his colleague getting into like the security role like just seems like a good guy You know reading books kind of chatting to people at the diner if they kind of you know Show any interest in him or whatever So Denzel was 59 in this
Bradley Inder: Yeah.
Jez: movie. ⁓ And I suspect the character he was playing was meant to be a little bit older. I was going to kind of put in an edit or I was going to have it in a nitty-pick that like at times he just looked like a real old man running around. But then I kind of my brain switched. I was like, ⁓ he's just acting brilliantly. Like he's just, he's really putting in the work. So, ⁓ I even loved his like excessive compulsive disorder. And apparently, ⁓ from the research I did Denzel would like brought that part in like where he folds the napkin. He does certain things like the books and the placement ⁓ Yeah, just just really great ⁓ Also, like in that, in the movie, kind of getting into it a bit more as well, ⁓ something that kind of really stood out to me this time watching is I really loved the reaction of Teddy, the bad guy, when he's so surprised at the man who he's meant to be hunting down. He's like, ⁓ my God, it's like this guy, like this old guy, like who is that?
Bradley Inder: I was gonna say yeah, no, that's a good point. Cause he's like, he's like, oh, who's he's working for? He must be associated with somebody else. Like he's adamant that it can't be just this one old guy that's like doing it. Yeah.
Jez: And as you were saying before, like a lot of homage to different movies, a lot of heat I felt in this movie. But even some of the directing, some of those like kind of quick frame shots or shots or whatever they were doing, I felt a bit like a, is it Ridley Scott who does like Man on Fire and stuff like that? Or is that Tony Scott? I always get them confused.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, yeah.
Jez: Tony Scott, so I always loved Tony Scott. Those kind of quick action shots or whatever. Enjoyed the diner, maybe went to the diner. one time too many, I've got some thoughts on the diner. Well, I guess I'll say that now. I like that the diner was sort of like to me his bat cave in a sense. So it was his safe haven and then people come in and they disrupt his safe haven. So he goes out and takes action. But then at the end of the movie, he's back in his safe haven sending emails like, yeah, I can save you. And it's, as I said, it's sort of like his bat cave where he now will be sort of ⁓ researching or getting his information before he goes off.
Bradley Inder: Hmm.
Jez: to save certain folks.
Bradley Inder: On that too, because I was going to ask a question later, but you brought it up here now, so I'm just going to add it now. Does he ever sleep in this movie? Because I feel like he's at work all the time, he's never in his bed, and then at night he goes to the diner and then does all that. Like I never see him sleeping. Like is that some kind of past trauma or some training or something like that do you think? Or do think he actually sleeps?
Jez: No, I think he sleeps. I just think he is insomnia. So like some nights when he can't sleep, I imagine he's going off to the diner ⁓ or like for a walk or whatever. But of that favorite diner settings, Brad. So I had Seinfeld, Friends, Equalizer, Pop Fiction, Heat, Zodiac. Any other diners you can think of off the top of your head?
Bradley Inder: Okay. Okay, cool. ⁓ my god Seinfeld is so iconic That's so good. I'm not off the top of my head I do like the the shout out to pulp fiction because I think that's probably the most action and done it's ever seen to ⁓ Bitch be cool
Jez: Yeah, bitch. Yolanda, Yolanda. Yeah, be cool. Be cool. Something else which I don't know if you picked up on which I picked up on this time so Every time he has an interaction with someone before he kills them or you know with the corrupt cops before he makes them like give the money back to Ralphie's parents they always ask who are you and he never answers it he answers the Russian guy at the end by saying like That's what everybody's been asking but I feel it's like kind of cool everyone's like who the hell is this guy which again gives him a bit of that like caped crusader? mysterious like you know like having a mask on but not actually having to have the mask on because no one knows anything about this guy.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, that's actually a really good point. I didn't think about it like that. ⁓ I have got something on this point later on, but yeah, you're right. Like he is sort of anonymous without having to be anonymous. Yeah, that's a good point.
Jez: Who are your favorite vigilantes? So I had Batman and then I just before you answer I'm going to ask you are these people vigilantes? Dexter Morgan?
Bradley Inder: Okay. Yeah, I love Dexter. And yeah, as soon as you ask that question, he's the first one that came to my head.
Jez: Okay. Travis, Travis Bickle from Taxi Driver
Bradley Inder: Oh, that's a good one. I don't know if he's a vigilante.
Jez: Saves Jodie at the end? No. John McClane?
Bradley Inder: John McLean's death, actually, you I don't think he's a vigilante. I think he's just a cop that's in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Jez: cop okay. B-Trix kiddo? The bride? Kill Bill?
Bradley Inder: I think that's more revenge than vigilante.
Jez: That's what I thought too. And then Boom Docs Saints, those brothers. Okay, there you go. Any vigilantes you can think of?
Bradley Inder: I haven't seen Boondocks since. I've got Bruce Willis as David Dunn in Unbreakable. He's a vigilante in that. Yeah.
Jez: ⁓ yeah, good one actually. Yeah, really good. Okay, great one Pratt. So as you mentioned, directed by Antonio Foch. I don't know, I didn't want to say it, but he ⁓ up ⁓ a music video and one of ones I saw was Gangster's Paradise.
Bradley Inder: Is it Focka or is it Flocka? Nice, great song.
Jez: And then I'm pretty sure that, ⁓ so he directed all the Equalizer trilogy. He's most famous for Training Day, which ⁓ Oscar for Denzel and a nominee for Ethan Hawke. But I'm pretty sure Training Day, looking at IMDB, was his second movie. I was like, ⁓ my God, like that's pretty impressive for a blockbuster, I would imagine. Like I'm gonna call it a blockbuster Training Day back in the day.
Bradley Inder: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I'd definitely call it a blockbuster.
Jez: What were your thoughts about the director?
Bradley Inder: ⁓ I thought he was really good. I thought that he set the scene For for Robert Denzel's character so well So there's this one scene where Denzel's on the bus on his way home at the start of the movie and some hottie with a with a body gets up and gets gets in like stands up in front of Denzel like walking like, know to the front of the of the bus she's in short shorts like a short like a Small top but Denzel is like too engrossed in his book like so just sets the tone that Denzel is not after like, know after girls or Pick up girls or anything like that. He's like a man of moral fiber So, you know just by doing it's such a little tiny little scene, but just by doing things like that ⁓ I think it helps set characters and like what what Antoine sort of vision for the movie is ⁓ There's also another little bit which we'll get into later. We mentioned in the Russian, is it the bar or the brothel or something like that? And there's all these sort of foreshadowing parts. Like when like the guys, like Denzel's looking at the guy with the corkscrew, like opening the bottle and stuff like that. I just thought it was very clever. He did, I thought he did a fantastic job. go on your point, actually, I'll get your thoughts first and then we'll talk about his other movies.
Jez: Yes, so I What you're saying about, which I had in the scenes part, but I'll say it now. What you're saying about how he's showing like the guy opening up the wine bottle with the corkscrew. I'm like, how good is this storytelling? He's showing you the weapons in the room or things that potentially you can use. But the first time you watch it, just like, that guy's just opening up a bottle of red. And then when he uses the corkscrew, like, ⁓ of course you can use like that corkscrew there. this time around when he's moving the skulls on the desk, I'm like, ⁓ you're great. like going to use these skulls to like smash them it doesn't do anything with them I'm like okay I'm not quite sure why he's moving the skulls around but yeah I really loved ⁓ I really loved the direction and he's done some amazing movies some of my favorite movies in
Bradley Inder: Yeah, no, I agree with you. Yeah, and like the skull part of it, like you said, ⁓ actually, first of all, I'll go back what you said about the storytelling. Like you're so right. Like he is a storyteller. He's telling a story and we're understanding the story that he's telling. ⁓ The skulls, I thought was very clever. It was sort of like marking the people for death. Like you're going to die. You're going to be a skull soon. You're going to be a skull. You're going to be a skull. Like marking them for death is very cool. But yeah, let's get into his other movies. I mean, you mentioned Trey.
Jez: Yeah, that's...
Bradley Inder: Also some of the other ones I've seen, obviously I've seen the Equalizer now, Shooter, ⁓ Tears of the Sun and a cheekily underrated masterpiece, I don't know if you've seen it, but Brooklyn's Finest Man, I love that movie.
Jez: I haven't seen Brooklyn's finest but I did ask you to give me a Mount Rushmore for Antonio. Is it Antonio?
Bradley Inder: ⁓ that's the list. It's on the list. Let's just go with Antonio. He can correct. You know what? If it's wrong, Antonio, send us an email and we'll do a whole apology in the next one. ⁓ I'd have to go Training Day, Brooklyn's finest, the Equalizer now that I have seen it and probably Recency Buyer. So I'll probably go Shooter, but Teasless Sun is very good too.
Jez: Okay, what's your Mount Rushmore? Okay, I had Training Day, The Equalizer, Southpaw and Tears of the Sun. Have you seen Southpaw? It's really great. Really, really good boxing movie and like the choreography is nuts. Just like this, like the choreography in this movie is like fantastic. And speaking of that, we'll then move to Denzel. So Robert McClain, one of the all-time, so two-time Oscar winner for Glory and Training Day. ⁓
Bradley Inder: I haven't seen self before.
Jez: He's also collaborated with Tony Scott five times. As I mentioned, I love some of those movies as well. This is his first time doing a sequel. I just think he has got so much charisma. I love like just his hand movements. Like when he, when he's meeting, what is it? The restaurant with Teddy at the end, like they're having that heat moment. I would call like the Al Pacino, Robert De Niro, but like where he's just rubbing his hands, like what he does with his hands, like on his shorts, like even like his lips and mouth, like,
Bradley Inder: Yeah, I got that too, yeah.
Jez: I just think he dominates the screen. He wins every movie like in Crimson Tide when him and Jackman are going toe to toe. Like that's just what cinema is all about. Just having two people on screen that you just can't look away from. It's amazing. And then I was also thinking of this. So, which is kind of like maybe back on Antonio as well. So Denzel is hunting the Russian mafia in this movie, whereas in Training Day,
Bradley Inder: Yeah.
Jez: he's being hunted by them. And they're both directed by the same guy.
Bradley Inder: ⁓ that's good. That's good. As soon as you started saying it, I'm like, I know where you're going with this, but I never thought about that. But yeah, that that is that is a good that's good point. like that.
Jez: Yeah, I don't know if that's just like a bit of a cliche or whatever, but yeah, but, but, yeah. What were your thoughts on Denzel and Denzel overall?
Bradley Inder: Yeah, no, to your point, mean Denzel, I mean, I know I've said it on the pod a few times before about people having range, but this guy has got so much range and you can see by his catalog, the amazing movies that he's been in and like you said, sort of dominated those kind of movies. know, like to your point too, with Antoine or part of me is ⁓ Antoine, what we calling it? Ant-Ant-Antonio? ⁓ Yeah. ⁓
Jez: Just AF.
Bradley Inder: AF, okay, with AF, you know, in training day, like you can see Denzel being like, you know, fully gangster, but then like good cop and stuff like that. Whereas in this one, you know, sort of like older sort of down to earth, but then he can like, you know, brawl it out and stuff like that. he's, he's hand movers. ⁓ just the way he talks and the way he sort of like, you know, interpret the script and things like that. ⁓ I wouldn't be surprised if there were some sort of ad-lib sort of parts in, ⁓ in, in movies where he of just roll with ⁓ But yeah, he's one of the all-timers I would say.
Jez: So I've asked you for a Mount Rushmore. Now the ⁓ difference with this one to our normal ones is we're not going to pick any, you can't pick either of his Oscar movies because they're automatically a Mount Rushmore. So you can't pick Glory or Training Day. Yeah.
Bradley Inder: Yeah Cause they would both be in mine, but obviously they're not going to pick her. But you know what? I think I know, I think I know two of yours, which are going to be different from mine.
Jez: Okay, you say yours and then you say the two that you think I have.
Bradley Inder: Okay, I'm going to say one of my favorite movies, Deja Vu, Man on Fire, The Bone Collector and Philadelphia.
Jez: Okay, and which ones did you think I had?
Bradley Inder: I think you, I know you love Crimson Tide and I know you love The Siege. So I'm thinking you've got those two in there, but I completely understand if you don't because they're amazing movies.
Jez: So I was looking at the siege a little bit, I don't have the siege but I do have Crimson Tide. So ⁓ it was very very difficult because I've also got two other shoutouts. So Flight, He Got Game, Man on Fire and Crimson Tide.
Bradley Inder: Okay. It's Yeah. Nice. More Yalla Shadows.
Jez: Unstoppable and remember the Titans. ⁓ We've got that on the list because it's just the best. So David Harbour, Brad playing Masters or Frank Masters. Did you, before we get into David Harbour, did you see something in his bio or something like that that you think I might have got excited by?
Bradley Inder: Yeah, I remember the Titans as well. I've been saying Unstoppable, I need to watch that. Okay. Okay. not that, no, not that you're gonna be excited by. I knew him from Walk Among the Tombstones, which I quite like, and I know he's in Stranger Things, but I haven't seen much of that. What did you get excited about? ⁓ Yeah, sorry, knew that. Sorry, man.
Jez: So he's born on my birthday. ⁓ So other, yeah, yeah, yeah. So other, here you go. Other famous people that are, or celebrities born on my birthday. Mandy Moore, Charlie Hunman, Hunnam, Daisy Ridley playing, you know, Ray from Star Wars, Babyface, I don't know who this guy is, but he's a rapper.
Bradley Inder: ⁓ nice set us up.
Jez: ⁓ Haley Joel Osmond and Steven Seagal, John Madden. I know.
Bradley Inder: Wow, Steven Seagal and John Madden, that's bullcrap. I bet you I got no one that good on my one.
Jez: Yeah, so as you say, David Harbor or Jim Hopper from Stranger Things. I like the slimy character he had. I thought he had a pretty good Boston accent. I don't know if he's from Boston originally. ⁓ I really ⁓ enjoyed like the accent. ⁓ He's a big guy as well, which I quite enjoy. Like he does play a good dirty cop. Um, I think I haven't seen walk him on the tombstones. I've only seen him as like a copy in stranger things as well. Uh, I will say that if I was in the car when, um, he's getting suffocated, I would just be elbows and everything, trying to just smash that window. He, I know he's using the palm of his hand, but I'm like, Oh, you can put a little bit more of it into this. Can't you?
Bradley Inder: Yeah, I thought it was quite good. ⁓ One of my favorite scenes I thought... for him in this movie was when they visit the Irish people at the construction site and you can see him making that decision like he knows that shit's gonna go down and he's got his hand in his gun and he's like great I'm gonna have to take out two people because this Russian psycho is gonna fuck us all over so ⁓ but yeah I thought it was great in this movie to your point too like you know he does play like a bit of a dirty cop so yeah it was quite good
Jez: Yeah, it's so good. Thoughts on the villain Teddy, so Martin ⁓ Koskos, who's actually from New Zealand. So shout out New Zealand.
Bradley Inder: Shout out for New Zealand. He's in the Lord of the Rings. I don't really remember him. I had a quick Google and saw his picture. like, yeah, I think I have seen him.
Jez: I'll stop you there. I was thinking the same thing and then I was like, they're all the fucking same. I don't know. Like they're all got blonde hair and pointy ears like...
Bradley Inder: Yeah, they're all yeah, yeah, they all got the pale makeup on so it looked the same
Jez: Yeah, but I did think as well like, ⁓ yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, it's that guy. And then I was like, I'm not sure.
Bradley Inder: Yeah sure, I'll probably saw him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I primarily know him as Yogi in Triple X. Great movie too. ⁓ I'll go into it bit more, but yeah, I thought he was really good in this movie. I really quite enjoyed him. And it's funny because obviously I've seen him in XXX and Yogi's got longer hair. He's got shorter hair in this one. And I don't know why. He just reminds me of Kevin Spacey so much. don't know why. He just looks, he looks like Kevin Spacey,
Jez: I ⁓ enjoyed him well as well. I wasn't quite sure about his Boston accent when he visits Robert in the stairwell. I was like, is this a New Zealander trying to put on a Russian accent and trying to put on a Boston accent? I'm like, I think it's a little bit washed, lost in the wash here, but overall I enjoyed him. I thought, I thought he could have been a little bit darker. I don't know about you, cause all the research I was seeing was like, ⁓ this guy was like a really dark feeling. was like, I feel like he could have been a little bit
Bradley Inder: ⁓ good saying. Haha
Jez: darker myself a little bit more ruthless overall but he was definitely able to convey a dangerous hitman. So Bill Pullman, great to see him in this. ⁓ A lot of Bill Pullmans were watched in our house in the 90s. So I do like him. ⁓ I think it's one of the first live action movies I actually remember going to the cinema for was Casper. So as I said, he's been in my life a lot. We watched baseballs on repeat and who could...
Bradley Inder: Pizza was hot!
Jez: And who could forget Mr. in Independence Day? I was thinking whilst watching this, and look, I know he's been a lead, like let's say Spaceballs, he's a lead ⁓ in that movie and he's a lead in potentially Casper as well. But then in saying that, I don't know, is he the lead or is the daughter the lead in Casper? And is he the lead in Spaceballs or is it like everybody's movie? And the more I started to think about it, I was like, huh. Maybe he's just a really good like 1B, 1C or like 2 or 3. I don't know if he's ever just a 1. Like could you put him in Castaway? Could you put him in I Am Legend? Could you put him in... and I think that's like for actors that's like the goal. Like you know Ryan Gosling in Project Hail Mary. He's completed it. ⁓
Bradley Inder: Yeah. Yeah.
Jez: What's his name? Matt Damon in The Martian. Bang. Just one person really like dominating the screen for that. I don't know if Bill Pullman quite got there. I feel like Bill Pullman needs to have other people around with him.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, that's a great point. Just going back like you said, I mean, he was in my life in that sort of mid-90s. Obviously he was in Spaceball, but I didn't see it probably until the 90s. But, you know, Sleepers in Seattle, Casper, While You Were Sleeping, which is a good movie, Independence Day. But even in While You Were Sleeping, even though he's sort of the main dude in that movie, ⁓ it is sort of a Sandra Bullock kind of movie. And even though like the post is Sandra Bullock, Bill Pullman, it is a Sandra Bullock movie. So ⁓ to your point too, I don't know if he could do, you know, the cast away, like, you know, Hanks, 80 % of the movie. ⁓ I think we're having this discussion about, ⁓ Kevin Bacon recently too. So ⁓ yeah, I don't know if, if, if he could do that, but having said all that, I mean, I he's a good actor. And yeah, it was great to see.
Jez: So Melissa Leo, Brad have you seen the fight with Christian Bale? ⁓ So you know that this lady's the in the fighter? She won an Oscar for that. ⁓ Tremendous. Such a tremendous role in the I absolutely loved her. ⁓ I feel like Bill and Melissa
Bradley Inder: Christian bell. I have, yes. ⁓ Yes. Yes.
Jez: They're in it for a short page. They're only really in it for one scene. So they don't get to cook too much, but they do pretty well. you know, I didn't think she had, as I said, a whole lot to do, but I still think she was great when she says to, you know, when she turns to bill and she's like, he came to ask for permission. I'm like, hell yeah. Like this is, this is, here we go. Yeah. Here we go. What did you think of Melissa?
Bradley Inder: We're on. Yeah, she was great. mean she didn't really have too big a role, like Bill Pullman didn't really have too big a role. ⁓ yeah, I thought she was great. ⁓ Her catalogue of movies was amazing. I was just having a quick look earlier. I mean I know she did Prisoners the year before this, which is a great movie. ⁓ But yeah, I thought, you know, I think this is a good role for her. Like she did this role well.
Jez: Chloe Grace Mutt. So Terry, who plays Terry. I didn't realize but it's the same girl from Kick-Ass. Have you seen Kick-Ass? Okay.
Bradley Inder: I haven't, I think I've seen parts of it, but I haven't seen it. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah.
Jez: So she was 17 at time of filming. I thought she was fine. I didn't think she was anything special. did in the research, I saw that she hung out with real prostitutes and they told her to put on weight because apparently if you're a prostitute, got to be have a little bit of meat on the bone I guess they say ⁓ in case yeah well in case apparently other things go down so you can kind of defend yourself or whatever but it sounds a little dark yeah don't want to go too far into that but what did you think of Terry or Chloe?
Bradley Inder: little bit of cushion for the pushing. Throw your weight around, as they say. Yeah, I thought she was fine. It's funny how she's sort of like the center point or the reason why McCall sort of goes back to the way he was before. But then she's only in it for the first sort of 25 minutes or whatever. And then after that, you don't see her again until the end. So, yeah, I mean, I thought she portrayed, what, prostitute or whatever would go through in terms of having a bit of a hard life and things like that. yeah, I thought she did what she needed to do in this movie.
Jez: Yeah, I was thinking about that as well when I was watching it again for the second time this week. Yeah, she's only at the start kind of she does her thing. She gets beaten up and then Denzel is like, all right, I'm back. And then yeah, she's at the end like, ⁓ thanks for helping me out. And he's like, you've unleashed the beast lady. But yeah, thanks as well. So production funny, weird things that we found while researching. as I mentioned earlier, Denzel's first sequel ⁓ and really his first franchise movie as well. So he's always avoided that. So he's initially hesitant, but the director ⁓ convinced him to come along. As I mentioned, he was 59. ⁓ when he was making this movie. Koskas or Teddy stayed in character between takes and him and Denzel didn't really interact or socialize too much during the filming of this to maintain that tension. ⁓ Did you have some production or weird stories you found? I've got a couple others.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, it's weird. There was a couple of earlier... people wanting to have a go at creating this movie based on the TV show that you mentioned earlier. But ⁓ it's funny in June 2010, it was announced that Russell Crowe was trying to bring back the equalizer to the big screen ⁓ and Crowe was intending to play Robert McCall. And it's funny because you mentioned it obviously before, Denzel's Oscar nominations and I feel like it right there, like training day and gladiator and things like that, it felt like for a while. it was Russell Crowe versus Denzel Washington. So to see when I was researching this to see that Russell was potentially gonna do it but then it ended up being Denzel I'm like ⁓ it's just another stage of the saga between Russell and Denzel who I'm sure are probably very good friends in real life so yeah.
Jez: Yeah, cool. Yeah, I didn't see that. thought ⁓ using the real Home Depot store was just awesome. I'm like, whenever you can use something that's like, you don't have to build a set or anything like that. I can't believe they let them use it, but I'm like, hell yeah. The diner is also was a real working diner. They did make like a makeshift one for some scenes. But again, like I think it really authenticated the movie and just like, it just plays so well when you're watching it. You're like, that's a real Home Depot or warehouse that they're in.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, I'd have been on that later on, but I'll just say now, like, man, I can't believe like, call my Bunnings over here. I like it's such a cool idea, like for a location for like a bit of a manhunt and stuff. mean, if you and I had our little laser guns and stuff back in the day and you said, go run around Bunnings and have fun, like, you know, laser laser tag things that man, we would have a ball. That would have been so good. So to actually have it in like a Home Depot, I thought was a really cool idea.
Jez: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Denzel, as I mentioned, 59, he trained intensively for six months. He learned Kraav Maga, which is a Filipino martial arts and tactical weapons handling. He did his own stunts as well. The Office 16 second scene, that was all where he attacks the first five pimp guys. So that was all shot in one take to show the choreography, which I thought was pretty unbelievable.
Bradley Inder: Wow. Wow, that's insane.
Jez: And then something which ⁓ realized and then I looked it up just to double confirm So Robert never actually is showing shooting a firearm. So he never actually kills anybody with a gun in the office where the guy gets shot in the neck, he twists the henchman's arm so it's forcing him to shoot his boss. He does use the nail gun but it's not an actual handgun or machine gun so I thought it was pretty cool. You never see him use it, doesn't say that he doesn't, like I think maybe when he's in Moscow he might use some type of gun or something but ⁓ everyone else is neutralized by creative ways.
Bradley Inder: Okay. Yeah, that's cool. It's funny you mention that. Because as soon he said it, I was like, didn't he shoot the main Russian dude? Like, you know, the five Pym Toons or whatever. yeah, you're right. He twists the arm of the other guy who obviously discharged the gun. So yeah, that's cool. He does use like a lot of knives and corkscrews and books and whatever else is lying around.
Jez: Box office Brad, what are the numbers?
Bradley Inder: So the production cost of this movie was around $55- $73 million but worldwide it box-officed $192.3 million with a domestic US of about $101.5 million but it opened number one in the US box-office. So yeah, for a mid-budget R-rated movie, think it performed quite well and you can see why they got the green light to turn this into a trilogy.
Jez: Nice. So Transformers Age of Extinction was number one that year and it made a billion dollars. And then The Hobbit, The Battle, I haven't seen any of The Hobbit so I wouldn't bother that, but that was just under a billion. So apparently I was listening to something the other day. Peter Jackson is the... has made the most money out of films or the most successful box office because it's all Lord of Rings and yeah, and the Hubbits. So like everything, each one made a, you know, a billion. So Oscars and awards, so no Oscars, but should they be nominated or won any?
Bradley Inder: Because it's all one of the reasons. Nearly a billion each I think, yeah. Well, I was thinking, you know, AF, ⁓ Denzel and Martin Costas could have probably got a shout out for me. But then when I was looking at it, mean, Jake Gyllenhaal didn't even get a nod for Nightcrawler. So if he didn't even get the nod for that, then these guys had no chance. ⁓ But AF, thought, having a look at the other list of the other people, I thought maybe he could have got a look.
Jez: Yeah. was pretty stacked for best actor. My man Michael Keaton got robbed for Birdman from Eddie Redmond. ⁓
Bradley Inder: He was good in that. That was a good movie. Birdman.
Jez: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Steve Carell, Foxcatcher as well. I also was like, ⁓ I think one of those two maybe should have won. But I also haven't seen the theory of everything. So take that with a grain of salt. So the scenes. So first scene that I put down was the late night diner where he's reading the novels with Lana and chatting with her. ⁓ You know. or I guess they're bonding over a literature and he's telling her about how he's reading all the books that his wife wanted to read. Any thoughts on that scene?
Bradley Inder: I'm a big sort of flashbacks kind of guy, so maybe I could have done with a couple of flashbacks of him with his wife or something like that. ⁓ but yeah, but I think, I think. that after that one, sort of leads into ⁓ the tire pulling scene, ⁓ you know, where he's training up the guy to become like a security guard. And that gave me like real man on fire vibes when he's teaching Dakota Fanning to like swim and stuff. So I've got that same kind of vibe from that movie as I did from this one.
Jez: Nice and then ⁓ so Denzel sees Slavi turn up and hit ⁓ Alana or Terry and then chucks you in the car. He then goes to negotiate. the 9,000, if someone offers you $9,800 for a female, I think maybe you accept it. So I did some research. $9,800 was because apparently if you take out a $10,000 loan, it gets like tracked by the government or the IRS. So if you take out $9,800, it doesn't, there's no trail or anything like that. Yeah. But then going,
Bradley Inder: That's cool.
Jez: into the is it 29 seconds or 17 seconds I kind of keep getting confused but the 20 I'm gonna call the 29 second scene as we're saying like the camera shot of the corkscrew setting up the weapons in the room locking the door I'm just like shit's about to get real hell and then when he's talking slowly through how he's going to die and then starts counting I'm like that is so brutal any thoughts on that
Bradley Inder: Ha ha ha! Yeah, that, that, that whole scene is just so good. And up to your point when he, sits down and he's going, he's going like your heart rate's like beating three times faster than normal, which means you got about 30 seconds to live. And then the guy's like, knowing that he's got 30 seconds to live, ask the question, who are you? It's just like, he's not going to be able to tell anybody who killed him anyway. ⁓ but yeah, but yeah, like you said, like he's all about the counting and stuff and he starts counting down and the guy like blacks out to death. Yeah. It was, that whole scene was very cool.
Jez: Yay. Then we said the arrival of Teddy the Fixer coming in. ⁓ Well before that Ralphie making weight I kind of enjoy some of those training scenes and things like that but the Fixer. ⁓ Do you think Teddy was a better fixer than the Wolf Brad?
Bradley Inder: No, no one's better than the wolf. You say the wolf? Hell, that's all you have to say!
Jez: ⁓ Comes in hot though with the sit down with all the boys around the table and he's kind of like telling them how terrible job they're And then I think one of your ones when Teddy visits the Irish Boston mafia, little Johnny, don't call him little Johnny or whatever.
Bradley Inder: demanding a lift back to his hotel. Little John... Don't call him Little... Don't tell him not to call him Little John, because he's gonna call him Little John and shit's gonna go down.
Jez: Yeah. What did you think of Teddy's tats when he's talking to Pushkin?
Bradley Inder: ⁓ my god, that was sick bro. Yeah, if yeah, maybe yeah, maybe I'll go out and get a few. He's inspired me.
Jez: Back tat's pretty cool. Better than Red Dragon back tat?
Bradley Inder: 100 % better than Red Dragon. 100%. You like it better than Red Dragon?
Jez: i can't remember what the ⁓ reggie agrim was was not that good is that you're pretty quick to turn it down
Bradley Inder: It's kind of like, it's kind of like, ⁓ it looks like dragons little horns and like dragon wings and the back of a dragon and stuff. So, but this is much better. think.
Jez: Okay. Yeah. I did though think, you know, I do, do like to look at a good male body, especially if it's a little bit jacked. I wouldn't say he was so jacked, but ⁓ not too many scars for a war hero. A couple of scars, maybe.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, you're right. You're right. Do know what's funny with all those like tattoos? It's sort of I've got those like Yakuza kind of vibes, you know, like the Japanese mafia that you know, they're like they're fully tattered out underneath but they wear suits over the top. So you never know that they're Yakuza until they take off their shirts and stuff. So yeah, it was pretty cool.
Jez: So the Mexican extortion with the corrupt cops, ⁓ I love it when the guys are backing up and they're like, this fucking guy, back up. And then they're giving it to them. But then when they have to hand the money to the parents or whatever, they're this is more embarrassing than the booting or whatever they say.
Bradley Inder: Ha ha ha! Yeah, that was good. That was good.
Jez: The interrogation, when Teddy interrogates the other Russian prozzie, I would be absolutely shitting myself. Like, when he's like, you telling me the truth, I'm like, lol, I'd like, yeah, fuck man. And then like again, shitting bricks when he's like touching ⁓ the face, you know, this is before he chokes her out or kills her. Like, ⁓ it reminded me of showdown in a little Tokyo when, ⁓ you know, the, the mouth of the Japanese mafia guy is like got the lady before he grabs a samurai sword and like cuts her neck or whatever. Yep. Yep. I did. I think that glass of water is definitely falling off the table as she's getting choked. Like she's kicked. don't know why she's not kicking harder.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, when he gets to the glass of water and stuff. ⁓ and chops their head off. Yeah, yeah. Oh, how do I say it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jez: So Teddy then tracks down ⁓ Robert to his home, posing as the police officer, and they have that little, I guess the first cat and mouse begins, and he's like, shouldn't you be leaving me a card or whatever?
Bradley Inder: That is so good. I love that saying. Yeah, that's so good. oh, but you already know I was there officer. He's like, and he's like, yeah, shouldn't, shouldn't you, shouldn't you leave your card in case I've got more information I can get back to you and stuff. And then he's like showing him the picture of the dead girl. was like, do you know this girl and everything? Yeah, man. That was a great scene.
Jez: Yeah. Why do you he just kills him just then?
Bradley Inder: That was a good point, I thought about that too, but maybe he doesn't know 100 % if he is the killer or B, like if he doesn't know who he's working for. So if he's like working for somebody else, then maybe he wants to obviously kill him, but then find out who else he's working for too.
Jez: I had to include the baseball scene because I do love a good sports scene in a movie. How was he hitting them? Do you reckon Brad? reckon? So he's an outfielder, but you reckon he's like a Darrell Strawberry? Like what are we thinking?
Bradley Inder: You alluded to it, so go there. Yeah, I reckon, I reckon with his skillset, reckon he's slogging a few home runs.
Jez: Yeah I was thinking like his eyesight must be pretty good like that would be a freaking basketball that he's swinging at. ⁓ My next question is, is Ralphie playing or is he too big? Maybe a catcher? I don't know. Can he get down that low?
Bradley Inder: Yeah. Yeah, he could be a catcher. What do you think about Denzel stealing the other guy's catch?
Jez: Nah, yeah, yeah, we clearly get his stats. It's Denzel. Yeah. Well, what we probably didn't see is the guys probably dropped like four and so Denzel's like, we're like, we've got to get to the finals. Like, we've to get this out.
Bradley Inder: ⁓ The guy's going for the catch and Denzel just like runs through a catcher and keeps jogging like he's the hero of the day. ⁓ I can't get I can't let old mate Johnny attempt this one. He's gonna drop it again
Jez: ⁓ I added in the registry robbery so when the lady at the hardware store was getting robbed like I just love how cool and calm Denzel is and he's just like give her give him the ring give him the ring I didn't know like why wouldn't he just take the guy out but then I guess he doesn't want all the like
Bradley Inder: He's like smiling.
Jez: Because I don't think she would say anything like if he took her out he she wouldn't be like ⁓ my god this guy's like ⁓ Navy Seals blah blah blah she'd just be like ⁓ cool like I've got my ring back or whatever I was then thinking though though that like I guess on the CCTV footage they would see stuff but again does it really matter if you're like a good fighter I don't know I'm pretty good at jiu-jitsu
Bradley Inder: Yeah. I think he was sort of, he's sort of doing the count in his head, but then he saw the little boy walk in with the mum or whatever at the same time. So he must've calculated that that little boy might've been in danger or got crossfire or ricochet or something like that. So he aborted that plan.
Jez: Okay. And there's a couple of scenes where like the yada yada yada, like when he gets all the money and stuff back and then he gives the money back like a company man. But, ⁓ I sys like, enjoyed, or I suspect maybe they cut out the beating up part, but I didn't mind that. And there's another scene where they maybe yada yada a little bit as well, which again, I might have some issues in other movies, but in this movie, I was like, cool, just keep the story flowing.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's a good point. I'll bring up something else about it. Yada yada later.
Jez: Teddy ready to ⁓ ambush apartment so ⁓ that's they go in to McCall's and he's already evaded it.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, he's got like that. He's got like the house or the apartment like across the street and he's like spying on them as they're coming into his apartment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was cool.
Jez: Yeah, and that's when the guys like, man this guy's got a lot of fucking books. I did like the, one of the others, one of my favorite ones as well. The fake construction worker, when he comes into the, into the diner and then, ⁓ Robert's just like your hands, your hands aren't dirty for a construction worker or whatever. ⁓ yeah.
Bradley Inder: Ha ha ha. He's like, he goes to go, so we waiting for anybody else or? ⁓ Yeah, that was so good. love that.
Jez: And then I just also put like whenever he starts his stuff, watch you like someone's about to get fucked up here. Leading into then the first fight with Teddy and the Russians when he just walks out and he casually just snaps photos of them all in the car. And then ⁓ he runs off, but I really enjoy like the snapping of the photos as he's walking past the car.
Bradley Inder: Someone's going down. Ha Yeah, that's good. It's like a turning the tables kind of moment. I like it.
Jez: And then after that, when he has to self heal himself with the hot honey, that would be so painful. ⁓ I do like that he licks it and puts it in his mouth, but like, I'd need to be biting down on something. I don't know. Like this guy, ⁓ is just so tough. ⁓
Bradley Inder: Yeah Yeah, no, you're right. That would be so friggin painful to do. yeah, you can tell he's like, you know, just ex military, like he's probably done this like a hundred times before. So yeah, but yeah, that was cool.
Jez: And then I like when he goes and visits the plumbers. So seeking permission in Virginia. ⁓ you didn't take out five pence, Robert, and he learns all about Teddy and his background. you do something about it because you can. ⁓ but again, you know, he didn't came, he came asking for permission at the end. Like, it's just like, we're, we're about to, we're about to, we're about to go here. Yeah.
Bradley Inder: Ha ha! This movie is going next level 100%.
Jez: We're at the top of the mountain and it's going to be a wild ride down. Then the Frank Masters kidnapping or what do you call it? Suffocating? where he gets, where Frank's all paranoid that the Russians are after him as well because he's stuffed up. So his car alarm goes off and then he goes out into his car and he's just sitting there and he's kind of keeps winding down the window and just like, he doesn't really have to say anything to him and he just winds it back up. And then he's like, all right, I'll check you. And he just walks out. I would be losing it.
Bradley Inder: Yeah. Yeah, that was cool. I the first time he like rolls the window then he goes like, I'm not even gonna tell me anything, So I'm just gonna roll the window back up again. Just like,
Jez: And then going into the cartel operation, I like it, sorry, when after he gets everyone to sort of put down their guns, I like it first how he's got the cop and he's like, Pushkin says like, blah, blah, blah. And the Russian guy's like just drinking, I don't know, wine or vodka or whatever. And he's like, all right. I do enjoy how it's like a butcher shop out the front. And then as you go through each room, it's sort of more and more like dodgy or just full of money. Yep, yep. ⁓
Bradley Inder: Yeah. Money laundering. Yeah.
Jez: always love like just a room with piles of money in there.
Bradley Inder: Who's this guy? I'm the new guy. Pushkin sent me. Yeah, that's good.
Jez: Then I enjoy the, ⁓ this is what I call like the heat scene where him and Teddy, so Robert and Teddy meet at the restaurant after he takes out his security guy and just chucks the glasses on the table. And they have that, yeah. And like he tells them about the book that he's been reading and like, there's a lot of, then he talks about like the ⁓ Russian police officer. So direct at the Russian police officer, is that Teddy?
Bradley Inder: Ha broken glasses with blood. Yeah, great.
Jez: Is Teddy the kid?
Bradley Inder: No, I think, I think maybe it's Denzel the kid. Cause Denzel speaks Russian too.
Jez: Yeah, okay, yeah, I wasn't quite sure but
Bradley Inder: Maybe Denzel's adopted and he was the Russian kid. But yeah, was something that I'm like, ooh, what's going on here? They both know about this story. yeah.
Jez: Yeah, I wasn't quite sure there, but I do love it's great when he's like, what do see when you look at me?
Bradley Inder: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was awesome.
Jez: So the oil tanker strike, this is my next sort of yada yada, which is fine with, I'm happy for him just to be walking away and the oil tanker blows up. I would have liked to seen a little bit more urgency from Denzel as like half of Boston is blowing up around him. He's very casual, especially that that truck, oil truck blows up as well or gas truck. Like I'm like a slight jog wouldn't, you know, might be needed here.
Bradley Inder: Hahaha Yeah, or time it better so you're much further away from the crime when the bomb goes off.
Jez: Then leading into the hostage situation, which is great that they kind of bring back, you know, setting up why you see so much of the work colleagues at the start to bring them back in. And now he's like, ⁓ God, I've got them back to the, to the warehouse, ⁓ guerrilla war. Like that is just that last 15, 20 minutes when we're in the warehouse, is just so amazing. So
Bradley Inder: Yeah, it's awesome.
Jez: I love how he's using the hardware store tools on all the people. So Brad, what would be worse? The barbed wire hanging, ⁓ the drill, a tree trimmer to the neck, a microwave bomb or the nail gun or the screw nail gun? Yeah, nail gun.
Bradley Inder: I... yeah, Danelgun. I think probably the barbed wire hanging because the other ones seem a bit more instantaneous. So you know, you'd be hanging knowing you're gonna die and you're just waiting out the... waiting out the death part. So yeah, I reckon that's probably the worst one. What about you?
Jez: Yeah, yeah, I think I'd like to be drilled or tree trimmer. Maybe the bomb. Yeah, maybe the bomb as well. Cause the bomb, probably the bomb actually. Cause that just takes it out. Then the nail gun climax. did you, what were you thinking when like you look at, Ralphie looks up and you see the nail in the wall.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, was like instantaneous. Yeah. Ha Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was cool. Like obviously I knew that it was Denzel there to save the day, but was, was pretty cool.
Jez: And the Moscow, the Moscow trip is awesome. That house is friggin amazing. so good. I love it as well. How he kind of keeps turning the light on and off. And I think it clicked with me the last time. Maybe he has to keep turning it off because he doesn't want the electricity on. I don't know if that's what it was, but, ⁓ or maybe it's some psych psychological kind of warfare type thing, but I love, he's like, why are here? And he's like, to get the head of the snake.
Bradley Inder: Smick. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was cool.
Jez: And then he's like, what for? Like, what was it? He's like, peace. He's like, ⁓ I can buy peace.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but like, you know that Pruskin, even if he, even if Pruskin could buy a piece and like let this guy go, you know that he's always going to hunt down and track down Denzel. So anyway, for Denzel to get out of this mess is by killing him.
Jez: Yeah, yeah. And then I guess meeting Terry at the end and then posting the ad and responding to people that need help. Any other scenes Brad you want to mention?
Bradley Inder: No, I think he covered it all, so I think we can go into the Hans Gruber.
Jez: What was your Hans Gruber bread?
Bradley Inder: ⁓ I had ⁓ so many good scenes but I think my favourite one was the Russian bar brothel scene where he kills the five guys at the start. It happened pretty quick and it's the first time I knew that Denzel's character, Robert, was like this and I'm like, ⁓ shit, we're on now. So yeah, I quite enjoyed that.
Jez: Yeah, I had that as well. Is it the 29 second slaughter or the 16 second slaughter? Like I will never in my life be bored of watching that. If someone puts that on, I could probably watch that. Um, you know, just timeless.
Bradley Inder: Yeah.
Jez: Camera work as well. felt a little bit like Guy Ritchie and Sherlock Holmes where like maybe setting up like what I'm going to do before I do it. You know when Robert Downey is like fighting one of the big guys and he's like, ⁓ I'll like whack him in the knee and dislocate his knee. Then I'll like hit his elbow or whatever. And he kind of, then he goes bang, bang, bang and does it. He doesn't do it to that extent where he's actually explaining, but it's quite quick kind of look into his eyes and he's like, okay, bang gun, like screwdriver, blah, blah, blah. And then he just, he just goes with it.
Bradley Inder: Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Jez: ⁓ yeah, really great. So apart from, so best quote apart from this guy has a lot of fucking books. What was your favorite quote?
Bradley Inder: Um, uh, I've got a few, uh, I liked when he said, um, when Ralphie's like, well, what happened to your hand? And he goes, I hit it on something stupid. That was pretty funny. Um, I also like, talked about it for like a weird, we weren't doing anybody else. Like when he's in the diner. Um, but I think, I think the one that's like the most, I guess, for loss of full or philosophy sort of, whatever you want to call it. Um, I think when Robert goes, when you pray for rain, you got to deal with the mud.
Jez: Yeah.
Bradley Inder: So I really enjoyed that quote. Really? Nice, nice.
Jez: I had the exact same one. yeah, yeah, yeah. So there you go. But I'll go to find this guy has a lot of fucking books. Best song of school.
Bradley Inder: Yeah I had New Dawn Fades by Moby. I really enjoyed that song. ⁓ look at that. Is it? Nice.
Jez: Yeah, I had that as well. ⁓ Also used in heat. Yeah, I didn't also I didn't mind the score as well like the score at the end, but I think it was just new dawn fade as well at the end. So yeah, any pre 2000s I've got one even though it's maybe not pre 2000s, but you got any pre 2000s?
Bradley Inder: Yeah I was really trying to dig for something and I really couldn't find anything because it is 2014 and it is sort of that. So I'd love to hear your pre-2000s.
Jez: handing out CDs to promote your singing career.
Bradley Inder: ⁓ that's a good one Jeremy, that's a good one.
Jez: Another CD. Yeah, we've already done the CD though from the best offer, but you know, maybe not so much pre 2000s, but you know, there you go. Benjamin button, Brad, what's the Benjamin button?
Bradley Inder: Good one. I had I love the unsaid truth so we go back to that scene again where Teddy rocks up pretending to be the cop. Robert knows that Teddy isn't a cop. Teddy knows that Robert's the guy that's responsible for everything but they're both playing their character well so you know neither of them broke character like hey you want to leave me a card? No it's okay. Hey have you seen this person? This person's dead. Have you talked to them? No I haven't but they both know that they're lying to each other so I just I just thought I love that unsaid truth that they're both just playing their character. I really enjoyed that.
Jez: Any others?
Bradley Inder: Maybe having a big final confrontation in front of a Walmart or a Bunnings I thought was pretty cool too. But no, that's what I had, the unsaid truth.
Jez: Yeah, cool. Yeah, I've got a few. So using a corkscrew as a weapon, just awesome. The country estate, so the plumbers country estate, loved it, love a big property. And then the Russian mansion too. ⁓ Using the real hardware store in the final battle, as I already said, that just rocks. That's awesome, as you said as well. Stopwatches, great use of stopwatches.
Bradley Inder: Hahaha
Jez: ⁓ Healing yourself with home supplies, so the hot honey and then the door handle. When he does the door handle as well, I'm like, God, this guy's tough.
Bradley Inder: The hot honey, it's not just for sore throats, it's for bullet wounds too.
Jez: Yeah, Robert locking people so when he locks people in the office locks people in the car locks people in the warehouse like I just I think it's just like now you're you know in What is it watchmen when like rankshaw goes to jail and they like lock they lock him in the jail because they want to beat him up and he's like No, you're in here with me and he like goes absolutely nuts ⁓ Villains in a suit always enjoy that and then russian villains just always works especially because they're you know bad boys at the moment what's your favorite villain or favorite type of villain brad
Bradley Inder: Yeah, Russian villains is a great call out. I think my favourite villain is someone that has been betrayed and they've got like a reason to be villainous. Like if you're looking at like, you know, Goldeneye, like, you know, Sean Sean Bean's character and that, like he's got a reason to hate James Bond because James Bond set the timer wrong and ⁓ he got scarred and everything for that. So I think ⁓ a villain with a is probably one of my favourite villains.
Jez: like Tommy Lee in Under Siege. You tried to kill me, you son of a bitch. I had Sega from No Country for Old Men and Joker Dark Knight as well. Sega, cause you don't think you really know, he's just a hired, hired hit man. He's got no emotion. He's whatever. He's just there to do a job.
Bradley Inder: Yes. Yeah. Welcome to the revolution. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's great.
Jez: What's age the worst?
Bradley Inder: So I had unsaid truths as the best. had unseen truths as the worst. So bear with me for a minute, but the ending, like it was cool, but I think it would have been so much better if they had filmed, like filmed the actual ending. So don't leave it to my imagination of him running through the mansion and killing everyone. I want to see him running through the mansion and killing everyone. So I think that would have been really good, but maybe they Thought that they weren't doing a second movie. So maybe this could if they knew that maybe they could have left Pushkin as like the second episode again I haven't seen equalizer two or three But maybe they could have left that way he goes to Moscow and tracks him down and kills them all but you know He kills pushkin and then then it zooms out and keeps zooming out and this guy's dead and this guy's dead and this guy's dead This guy's there. It's like man. I would have loved to seen him going around the house. Just killing everyone
Jez: I loved that. I loved it. We are like, ⁓ shit. Cause even when he's like talking to pushkin turn the light on and you're like, is that blood on his face? And then when it kind of zooms out and you just see like everyone that's dead throughout and then on the cars and stuff in the backyard, look, they could have done maybe like a little like, you know, 1.5 speed through as he's walking out and like just maybe do like a flashback of him running through killing them. But I don't think you need it. And potentially could have been maybe too unrealistic if there's all these guys with machines. guns and he's like running around killing them I don't know ⁓ anything else that age the worst for you
Bradley Inder: No, no, that's not that's that's what I had. What did you have?
Jez: 7.30am is a little bit late for a weekday alarm.
Bradley Inder: I guess if you're a single man living in an apartment you've to be at work at night and you could probably push in that sleep in in the morning.
Jez: Yeah. ⁓ leaving the tap on, ⁓ I understand maybe cause they want to make a noise, but come on guys, save the water. And then a big one, which I thought of just today when I was watching it. So Robert's phones on loud during the cat and mouse in the warehouse. So just call him again, Nicola. You'll know where he is.
Bradley Inder: In this economy? Hahaha
Jez: Who are you having a beer with, Brad?
Bradley Inder: ⁓ Well, I didn't know she was 17 but I had Alina. Let's grab a drink, sweetness, but no, I'm not that guy. Maybe I'll wait a year and I'll take her out when she's 18. We'll have a drink then.
Jez: Are you the big Russian guy in the limo that's waving her rope? Okay, I thought there was a pretty obvious choice for this one. So I had Brian and Susan Plummer. It looked like they brought out the best wine when Robert turned up for lunch or dinner. ⁓ Brian's having a whiskey as well. Like they're all there just to entertain. They've got that massive estate. I dare say they don't have that many guests, but something very disappointing. Robert's having a tea.
Bradley Inder: That's true. That's true. Yeah, I know right. He's got to his killing senses prime. But no, you're right actually. In hindsight, I mean a weekend away at their place. That'd be amazing I think.
Jez: Yeah. So I know you mentioned earlier that ⁓ Russell Crowe was in the running to be in this movie. Did you find out anyone else in the running or is there anyone that you'd like to replace if you were the casting director?
Bradley Inder: Mm-hmm. Yeah, great question. Casting director, as soon as this Teddy guy rocked up, like, you know, getting out of the plane and everything like that into his car, like his arrival, I instantly, instantly thought, man, if they had Ray Stevenson ⁓ playing this guy, I thought this would be unbelievable. So for those of you that don't know, he played Dagenet in King Arthur, which was another movie by AF. But he's also famous for the Ukrainian mobster, Isaac Zirko in season 7 of Dexter. ⁓ I don't know if you remember that ⁓ but he's been in like heaps of stuff he's been in like you know TV shows like Rome and Black Sails and in movies like the Book of Eli and the other guys and Volkswagen and Thor movies but he is a really cool sort of badass Ukrainian monster in Dexter and as soon as this guy got out I thought this this this would be a great part for him ⁓ but having said that I did think that ⁓ that Martin Kosk ⁓ did actually do quite well in this movie.
Jez: Yeah I liked I liked Martin because I didn't know him and so I was like this is cool but I know this Ray Stevenson guy so sadly I don't know him from any of the shows that well I've seen ⁓ he's in Black Sails as well okay I've seen ⁓ Dexter but I know him from ⁓ Ahsoka he's in the Star Wars Ahsoka so ⁓ yeah there you go
Bradley Inder: Yeah. Yes. Yes.
Jez: i didn't really have anyone for this i couldn't really think of anyone because i like you're really going to get someone to play terry like she's as you said she's not really in it for that long so it's not like you'd be like ⁓ margo robbie like okay great like
Bradley Inder: Yeah. Yeah, what's the point? Like it's 20 minutes.
Jez: What character could Bruce Campbell have played?
Bradley Inder: I had, he's a hardware store guy who knows too much. Bruce Campbell walks past Robert, he's working in the Home Depot, Campbell goes to Robert, you didn't hear it from me, but the barbecue on sale on R4, you can get that at S-Mart for nearly half that price.
Jez: Awesome. Had the diner manager owner so Jake I believe his name was so the only thing I had something short So at the start when Terry has to leave To she's eating a pie and Jake gives it to her for free because she has to go shag someone I imagine she thanks him. So Bruce no problem, baby She walks out. Did you think the diner guy was maybe like paid off by the Russians? You know when the high vis comes in with the clean hands the diner guys like ⁓ I got to get something. Yeah, I gotta get something from the
Bradley Inder: Nice. ⁓ you have to suddenly go to the back.
Jez: I'm like, but then he's in there the whole time at the end. So I'm like, ⁓ maybe he's not in on it, but it seemed a little bit convenient
Bradley Inder: I've got something on that later, not specifically about the Diner guy, but yeah, I've got something on that later.
Jez: Okay. So does this so movie runtime two hours and 11 minutes. does this movie to deserve to be over two hours, Brad.
Bradley Inder: I, man, I thought it was a little bit too long. There's probably a couple of things you could cut. again, like don't get me wrong, like the blowing up of like the oil tanker and stuff is super cool. But I mean, did you need it? Like you don't really need it. You know what I mean? So, ⁓
Jez: I think yeah, you sort of need it though, because that's like then they've stuffed the whole operation and the Russian guys now like you got it like it kind of puts them in the position of like, all right, we've got to take the hostages to like get this guy out in the open.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, yeah, but I mean it is hard to sort of trim on this movie, but I'm not a huge fan of a two-hour movie So like like like I sort of touched on before maybe he could have done that that post-mosco part for like Episode two, but they probably didn't know that they were filming an episode two. So they had to wrap it up. But what are your thoughts?
Jez: Yeah, look, I maybe you could trim this like again, I get like you I like a movie two hours a run up. I think you could probably trim the start a little bit. Like there's maybe one too many dinos scenes. It could be maybe one too many interactions with Ralphie. I understand that you need to have the interaction with the work colleagues because then that sets up the end of him rescuing them. But he's a nice good guy anyway. Like you could have Ralphie at lunch and then maybe Ralphie doing something else. Maybe you didn't need the scene where the lady's getting robbed in the hardware store or in the warehouse. Like that doesn't really add too much to it. And then as you
Bradley Inder: Yeah, although
Jez: said, like at the ending, you could probably trim down like, Hey, Robert, I've been like looking over all the bus stops. You know, I've been coming here every day to see like they could have a quick interaction. Maybe you don't need him emailing yet. People at the end. don't know. could, you could, you could trim 10 minutes, I think though, pretty easily, but it's saying it, it's fine. It runs, it runs well. It's not, it's not too big a deal, but yeah, I think you can trim a little bit.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like. Yeah. Like even, even, ⁓ was it Ralphie's mom? Like, you know, with the insurance money scam, the cops and stuff like that. I mean, I guess you could get all that part out. Like, you you don't, don't need it.
Jez: So Porn Title, I had the climax-alizer. Once the stopwatch begins, it only takes 16 seconds to get started.
Bradley Inder: The climax. that's a good one. ⁓ I went, ⁓ I went on a play of, ⁓ you know, that James Bond movie from Russia with love I had from Boston with love. So Robert gets back at Pushkin by organizing Boston prostitutes to operate in Moscow, further cutting down his business clients. They even realized that the girls don't have a Boston accent as they always have their mouth full.
Jez: Best outfit or prop? What are you taking straight to the pool room?
Bradley Inder: We might have the same thing. I went the watch.
Jez: No, okay, different. Good one though. I had the painting, I think it's a painting of Mary, I believe. It's in Slavie's office and it gets bloodstained on it so you see it a second time. Yeah, just imagine it must be expensive but I also love a good painting so I decided that.
Bradley Inder: ⁓ yeah, that's good too. Nice, nice, that's a good one too.
Jez: Frederick Zula, I'm sure we got the same, but who was your best performance on or off screen?
Bradley Inder: Oh, I actually don't reckon we do. Um, I originally went with, uh, with Marta and Kostka's, but because I had that whole Ray Stevenson thing, I thought maybe not. So I actually had AF. I thought his direction in this movie was awesome. And the way that he was able to tell the story I felt like really came through for me. So I know you got me a couple of, a couple of pods ago with, um, yeah, um, dead presidents. And I thought the directing was amazing on that. Um, and the directing on this was amazing as well. So yeah, it was really good. I had him.
Jez: proud of you mate, I'm glad we don't have the same person. So I went Denzel. He just, as I said, wins every scene he's in. ⁓ Love him, but I had the director close second. Brad, what happens after the credits stop?
Bradley Inder: Thumbs up. Yeah. I had equalizer 2, so I haven't seen it, so was just gonna ask you, is it worth a watch?
Jez: I ⁓ can't remember it. I haven't seen it. What I saw online researching this one is Bill Pullman's in it more. Yeah, so there you go. So maybe it is of interest, but ⁓ yeah, exactly. I can't remember it though. Maybe I'll have to watch it and then I'll remember it, but I'm sure it will be on this podcast at a future time.
Bradley Inder: ⁓ wow. This goes from a 1D to a 1C.
Jez: I had, so Masters is raped and then quartered by the Russian mafia within 24 hours of him being in prison. I had Denzel jetlagged from his return from Moscow wins the baseball league hitting two homies in the handyman cup. And I had a question, is Robert looking for a new job?
Bradley Inder: The handyman cup. Man, I love it when you go to that detail. That's the best. ⁓ Is Robert looking for a new job? I've got an area quick. saw that later. So, but yes, he should be. He should be.
Jez: You Okay, he should be I didn't have any theories this week. Did you have any theories?
Bradley Inder: ⁓ did, but you already sort of, you already sort of touched on it. You're sitting and nailed it, Jeremy. You're on fire at this point. ⁓ I had, do you think they lifted the timing, the foresight, seeing things in advance from Sherlock Holmes, which came out in 2009. So you had it too, when, ⁓ Robbie Downey Jr is sort of going, all right, I'm to kick this guy in the leg and I'm going to break this guy's arm. I'm to do this. And it's like Denzel's kind of doing the same thing. Like, you know, 16 seconds, I'm to do this. I'm going do that. I'm going to do that. So. Yeah, my theory question to you was do you think that they lifted it from Sherlock Holmes? But it goes into what we talked about earlier, where they take the best of other things.
Jez: yeah yeah and uh... nice one because when i was explained that to you earlier you're looking at me like i was like i don't think you've seen Sherlock Holmes okay so the dom teretto uh... what's the life lessons from this movie so i had shoot first ask questions later so too many times people pulled a gun on robert and waited too long so he could take them down just shoot him guys
Bradley Inder: No, no, no, I'm looking at you going like, son of a bitch, you just stole on my theory corner. Ha ha ha! That's good, that's good. had, don't fuck with strangers, you never know which one can kill you in 15 seconds or less.
Jez: I forgot to mention actually in my favorite scene and I like that one Brad thanks for sharing. When the Andre is pointing the gun at him and he does like the switch thing and then you know how he gets it off him and can spin it around and pointing at him. That's cool. That was cool. I was like that's so awesome. Airing of grievances. I got a lot of problems with you people. Brad.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was super cool. I remember that saying that was super cool. Okay, I had three. So I had the dude, I think it's his name, Ralphie, the dude quit his job, then gets rehired instantly. But he's hired as a security guard and it feels like it's like day one or two of his job. And then ⁓ the lady gets robbed, Jenny gets robbed. So he's like the worst employee ever. ⁓
Jez: Yeah, right. Maybe he was in on it.
Bradley Inder: No, I had I had also for a for a Boston movie. There was highly any Boston accents so Like this movie is set in Boston and the only one that came close to the Boston accent was the crooked cop But nobody else nobody else had a Boston accent and then you touched on it earlier before ⁓ I'm not a detective ⁓ But even I could piece this one together if there's a murder at the cafe that Robert goes to and there's executions
Jez: Yeah, masters.
Bradley Inder: at the place Robert works at, the only person that frequents both of those places is Robert. So he should, should he not be brought in for questioning? like, you they're usually pieces together on, you know, probabilities and likelihoods and things like that. So I'm like, man, ⁓ he can't flying under the radar that long.
Jez: What about how he returns the sledgehammer after he gets the money back from the robber? It's like this DNA all over that some poor guy is going to buy a sledgehammer and then get like get done for frigging jail time.
Bradley Inder: Imagine that the next time you get a bunnies you pick up a hammer and the wake lady getting arrested for homicide. ⁓ my God.
Jez: Yeah, yeah. So I had, ⁓ is master's really giving up his safety deposit box to Robert? Like, like you've screwed him over so much. I'd be like, no, man, I'm not giving you that.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, he needs that when he's in jail.
Jez: do you think robert kills the main ⁓ or do you think so on that do you think ⁓ by giving it up he then is going to think that robert's going to kill the russian mafia guys then maybe they won't come for masters because there's too much toil going on i don't know but it's three days later so i feel he's already dead so i don't know ⁓
Bradley Inder: Yeah, that's that yeah, you're right. Yeah Yeah.
Jez: Another one, so what I was talking about, know, when Denzel takes the gun off Andre in the money, when they break up the cartel and then the butchery money slaughterhouse, are all the other Russian dudes really letting Andre like, are you sure they're not going to let Andre get killed so they can both just kill Masters and Robert to save their own bacon? Yeah. When he's like, when he's like, oh, you've told them to put down the guns. I'm like, ah.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's like 20 of them there. It's not like it's just a couple of guys.
Jez: Maybe like if I was one of those Russian henchmen, I'd be like, ⁓ yeah, that's okay on Joe, but now I'm in charge. Bang, bang, bang, bang. ⁓ catching a bus to save his mates. Like, come on Denzel, you gotta get new, you gotta get new, but you gotta get new, but yeah. And then another one. So not a doctor, but Ralphie is shot in the hamstring and then he's still jogging around the store, like turning on sprinklers, turning on the lights.
Bradley Inder: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right. Get rid of ties.
Jez: If I'm Ralphie, I'm in pain on the ground. Like, ⁓ my God. Like if I'm shutting the hamstring, I don't know. I don't know if I'm being, you know, he's like, can you still walk? Yeah. I don't know if I still can.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, yeah, you're right. Yeah, he got shot in the leg and then he's doing a run up like the power box and stuff. I'm like, nah.
Jez: Yeah and I didn't didn't quite get why Teddy was ⁓ stalking him. I'm like go after Robert yeah go after Robert like so letter box rating I gave this a four everyone loves an elderly hero
Bradley Inder: Yeah, just kill him and then, yeah, yeah. Kill him and then go to Robert, 100%. Nice. I also gave this four stars as well and I said above equal movie.
Jez: Okay, good one. Re-watchability factor. So I enjoyed watching. I think I enjoyed watching this the second time even more just this week. I really did enjoy it. And what am I pairing it with? I'm pairing it with John Wick. So both 2014 and they're both awesome in different ways. Or same same but different.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, nice. Nice, nice. ⁓ Yeah, I really enjoyed it and I really enjoyed watching it the second time, probably more so than the first time, only because I knew it and then I started to look for all those little nuances and things like that. So ⁓ I probably will watch the next one too, like Equalizer 2, based purely on how good this one was. ⁓ If I was pairing it, I had Unbreakable if you wanted that vigilante justice, ⁓ or if you wanted that Denzel justice revenge kind of angle, then I'd probably go on fire I've got a few vibes from that movie as well
Jez: So good. When he puts the bomb up the guy's butt. So good.
Bradley Inder: That's great. ⁓
Jez: Mailbox? Do we have any mailbox this week?
Bradley Inder: We had a shout out from Ben Stocco who said he was enjoying the pod. he messaged me but I didn't see the message until heaps late and I'm so sorry about that mate but we appreciate your lovely comments so thanks so much.
Jez: Love you, Stokoe. Well, that's going to do us for another episode of In the Mood for a Movie. Thank you all for hanging out with us as always, and we hope you've enjoyed it. ⁓ Next pod is very special. It's our 10th episode. Look out on our socials and you'll see what movie we will be tackling.
Bradley Inder: Thank you so much everyone. Good, choice, Josiah. Love it, mate.
Jez: Cheers.
Bradley Inder: Good mate, how you going? Foz watch, she's still going strong. Still going strong. What, top four now?
Jez: think so, and it was at like 60 to, we got 50 last week, didn't we? Put 50 on. I saw a stat that with, we've won every game 13 plus, it's more like 20 plus, apart from when we lost to the Panthers who were coming first, and we lost by two.
Bradley Inder: aww smash them, smash them Yeah, well, I mean, we talked about it earlier in the year, you know, potential premierships. So I don't know, man. Let's see how we go. Probably not, but there's always hope.
Jez: Tottenham going to go down in the Premier League last week to make it happen.
Bradley Inder: I don't know. I thought they were gonna go down, but I think West Ham probably gonna go down
Jez: Yeah. Surely Everton play their best team don't they for the chance to knock Titanum down.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, of course they do of course they do so it'll be it'll be good. It'd be a good one to watch I think
Jez: Brad, this guy has got a lot of fucking books. ⁓ Before summary?
Bradley Inder: ⁓ Robert a quite ex-operative trying to live a normal life unleashes his lethal precision to dismantle the Russian mob ⁓ after young woman he befriends is brutally exploited. ⁓
Jez: Great, so set in 2014. Brad, what were you doing in 2014?
Bradley Inder: ⁓ Not much, I think. ⁓ I was 31, I just got into my elder years. But yeah, just settling in I think to a more sort of quiet life post 20s, how about yourself?
Jez: Yeah, think I was just back from Europe and I was working for a sports tourism company. So that was a bit of fun, but some...
Bradley Inder: Is that when you're the bluehead New South Wales origin? Yeah.
Jez: ⁓ yeah, Blatchy's Blues. We've got State of Erosion coming up this week so I didn't even ask you. What's thoughts on the team?
Bradley Inder: ⁓ I don't know. don't think they didn't pick positions properly Isn't they picked like a whole bunch of like fullbacks and stuff to play on the wings and everything? Is that right?
Jez: I don't know. No, I don't think so. All I know is that they picked Teddy over Edwards at fullback, which is okay. Yeah, I don't know. I don't love the team, but I think we've got a couple of injuries as well, but their team also doesn't look too crash hot.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, I mean, all the kawaii's in it, that's all that matters to me, guess.
Jez: Yeah, exactly the big fella. Well, some other things that were happening in 2014 to get back on topic. Scotland voted to stay in the UK, Muppets. I'm pretty sure that movement was funded by some guy that won the European bill, like the billion dollar European powerball lotto. Like what a waste of money. MH370 vanishes. A fairy sunk in South Korea, killing over 300 people. A probe landed on a comet for the first time. I thought that was pretty cool. Ice bucket challenge, Brad, did you the ice bucket challenge?
Bradley Inder: Nah, that was so stupid. Did you ever do it?
Jez: No, I don't think so. ⁓ I did the other one, but I can't remember what that one was called. ⁓ the neck and nominate one. Germany won the world cup in Brazil. Seven one. What an ass kicking. ⁓ yeah. Russia held the winter Olympics, ⁓ before annexing Crimea, Crimea, cheeky buggers.
Bradley Inder: Ha I remember that, that was brutal, brutal to watch. That last Olympics?
Jez: Apple Watch was launched, ⁓ Ellen Selfie at the Oscars before everyone turned on it. Frozen was released, Taylor Swift 1989 was released and Pharrell's Happy was the top of the charts. Before we get into the movies that were released that year, anything else exciting or worth noting?
Bradley Inder: Yeah, well, Worth Notting, not exciting, but sadly Robin Williams, Philip Seymour Hoffman and Joan Rivers all passed away that year. So that was sad year. ⁓ But on a positive note, True Detective, that debuted that year. Do remember that? True Detective, did you see that? Wow, what a show, man. was unbelievable. Season one was great, the rest, but yeah, season one was fantastic.
Jez: ⁓ no. Yeah, it's good. Yeah, yeah. Well, you didn't like Colin Fowle going around and beating up the bully for his fat redhead son.
Bradley Inder: I just I sat there I thought what the hell am I watching? This is so bad
Jez: So some notable movies which were released in 2014. Inherent Vice, Chef, Fox Catcher, Whiplash, Birdman. The Grand Budapest Hotel, Interstellar, Gone Girl, Nightcrawler, The Lego Movie, John Wick, Edge of Tomorrow, ⁓ X-Men, Days Future Past, Guardians of the Galaxy, Transformers, Age of Extinction, Captain America, Winter Soldier. As you can see by some of those last ones, we're starting ⁓ to get the ⁓ peak of comic book slash franchise ⁓ era. And a lot of those movies as well, you'll also note are like trilogies. ⁓ And this movie sort of resembles a little bit of that franchise era as well and maybe comic book-ish. Any other notable movies, Brad?
Bradley Inder: Just one more we didn't mention American sniper. That was I think you like that you like that one, too. Yeah. Yeah I was gonna say sorry just shout out. think my favorite movies I'll ask you as well, but my favorite movies I think from that year probably American sniper nightcrawler man. I love that movie. That's that is so good ⁓ And yeah, how about you any good any good call-out movies for the map?
Jez: I have great movie. Yeah, it's good movie. What do you love it? Yeah, Interstellar, Edge of Tomorrow I really like, Gone Girl, John Wick, Kicks Ass, and I also like Inherent Vice, love my PTA. ⁓ Apparently, think I have to go back and watch Captain America Winter Soldier because everyone tells me that's the best one but it was kind of meh, so maybe I need to watch it again. Brad, what do you love about action movies?
Bradley Inder: I love a good action movie. We talking about it, think it was in the last pod, with comedies and stuff. You don't really have to think too much, you can just sit there and enjoy it. I think you and I, probably in particular, speaking on behalf of yourself, but we grew up watching action movies as influenced by our father and his dear friend, John Borsla. They always go into action movies. I think it's such cool genre especially for us like in the 90s you know like t2 stuff like that yeah man I love a good action movie just something where the you know some some good guys just blown away street trash it's just the best man I love it
Jez: Yeah, look, echoing that, like I think I grew up watching action movies a lot earlier than I should have. But I loved every second of it. I also really love how you were kind of saying that, you can incorporate humor into action as well, you can, action also doesn't just have to be like bang, bang, gun, guns explosion, you know, like days of thunder, I would classify as an action movie, top gun, an action movie. Like it can be so many different things, which is really cool. ⁓
Bradley Inder: Yeah.
Jez: I had a list of a couple of just faves and I don't think this is like a proper list, but Die Hard, Under Siege, Terminator, Predator. ⁓ I love a good heist action movie as well. And then some of those early Michael Bay action movies are just amazing. Get that American flag waving with smoke and frigging flames just going up in the background. It's just great. I'm really glad they're still making them like this one being a trilogy, John Wick being a trilogy. I don't know if you saw Rebel Ridge. I think it was last year or the year before it came out. Like that was. awesome as well.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, I haven't seen Rebel Ridge, but yeah, I mean, as soon as you start to mention some of those movies, you're just plucking at my heartstrings. mean, you know, Terminator, Predator, Die Hard. ⁓ I even classify like Aliens, like the second one, as like a bit of an action movie and stuff too. man, it's just, it's just good. And like you said, like it doesn't, you know, I sort of referenced it before, like in a Blowing Away Street Trash. It doesn't have to be just that. It can be clever too. And you know, if you chuck like an Arnold Schwarzenegger and he's got like all those little one liners that are. ⁓ funny and very thematic and they just they just sit with you for like for the rest of your years like yeah just some good stuff
Jez: Yeah, so the equalizer as I mentioned originated ⁓ from a 1980s TV series. I had seen this quite a few times. Brad, you had not seen it before. I would love to get your thoughts on the movie.
Bradley Inder: Well, I guess I can overarching sort of comment would be where has this been all my life? ⁓ I'm sad that I missed it, but I'm glad that I have watched it now. But I think for me, you know, sat down, turned it on, had it open with like a ⁓ movie, like a movie quote, a quote like from Mark Twain there. Man, I love a movie that opens with like a quote. ⁓ They don't really do it much anymore, but it was so good. But ⁓ I like the vigilante justice. ⁓ I think the movie was brilliantly directed, which I'll get into a bit later. And it just, it's funny. It just vibe with me with other movies that I have seen and I'm like, Oh, that sort of reminds me of this and it sort of reminds me of that. So I think, you know, for me personally, like I always, know, whenever I meet people, I always like to take the best of people like, as in like this person does that well and that person does that well. And you know, I'm going to incorporate that into what I do. And this movie, I feel like it goes it does that like it takes the best of this kind of genre of movie and the best of that and it's Seen another movie do that and I'll take that So yeah, I really liked it. I thought it was um. I thought it was pretty cool
Jez: Yeah, awesome. I'm looking forward to everyone. Shock. Brad also hasn't seen John Wick. So I'm looking forward to seeing we're going to yeah, same year. And they're like very, very similar movies. One's about I guess, someone does a girl wrong in John Wick without spoiling too much. Someone does a dog wrong and it gets them both back into ⁓ out of retirement, I guess. As you said, I love the slow start like the setup of Denzel's character or Robert's character. And then from the
Bradley Inder: I haven't seen John Wick in seven years, has Lay.
Jez: 25 minute mark we're on it's just like as he's kind of going into that rushing guys office I think it's like 26 10 to be honest with you. You just like this is great But I love it how like at the start, you know, you're showing Robert at work Robert playing baseball got a couple thoughts on that Robert helping his colleague getting into like the security role like just seems like a good guy You know reading books kind of chatting to people at the diner if they kind of you know Show any interest in him or whatever So Denzel was 59 in this
Bradley Inder: Yeah.
Jez: movie. ⁓ And I suspect the character he was playing was meant to be a little bit older. I was going to kind of put in an edit or I was going to have it in a nitty-pick that like at times he just looked like a real old man running around. But then I kind of my brain switched. I was like, ⁓ he's just acting brilliantly. Like he's just, he's really putting in the work. So, ⁓ I even loved his like excessive compulsive disorder. And apparently, ⁓ from the research I did Denzel would like brought that part in like where he folds the napkin. He does certain things like the books and the placement ⁓ Yeah, just just really great ⁓ Also, like in that, in the movie, kind of getting into it a bit more as well, ⁓ something that kind of really stood out to me this time watching is I really loved the reaction of Teddy, the bad guy, when he's so surprised at the man who he's meant to be hunting down. He's like, ⁓ my God, it's like this guy, like this old guy, like who is that?
Bradley Inder: I was gonna say yeah, no, that's a good point. Cause he's like, he's like, oh, who's he's working for? He must be associated with somebody else. Like he's adamant that it can't be just this one old guy that's like doing it. Yeah.
Jez: And as you were saying before, like a lot of homage to different movies, a lot of heat I felt in this movie. But even some of the directing, some of those like kind of quick frame shots or shots or whatever they were doing, I felt a bit like a, is it Ridley Scott who does like Man on Fire and stuff like that? Or is that Tony Scott? I always get them confused.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, yeah.
Jez: Tony Scott, so I always loved Tony Scott. Those kind of quick action shots or whatever. Enjoyed the diner, maybe went to the diner. one time too many, I've got some thoughts on the diner. Well, I guess I'll say that now. I like that the diner was sort of like to me his bat cave in a sense. So it was his safe haven and then people come in and they disrupt his safe haven. So he goes out and takes action. But then at the end of the movie, he's back in his safe haven sending emails like, yeah, I can save you. And it's, as I said, it's sort of like his bat cave where he now will be sort of ⁓ researching or getting his information before he goes off.
Bradley Inder: Hmm.
Jez: to save certain folks.
Bradley Inder: On that too, because I was going to ask a question later, but you brought it up here now, so I'm just going to add it now. Does he ever sleep in this movie? Because I feel like he's at work all the time, he's never in his bed, and then at night he goes to the diner and then does all that. Like I never see him sleeping. Like is that some kind of past trauma or some training or something like that do you think? Or do think he actually sleeps?
Jez: No, I think he sleeps. I just think he is insomnia. So like some nights when he can't sleep, I imagine he's going off to the diner ⁓ or like for a walk or whatever. But of that favorite diner settings, Brad. So I had Seinfeld, Friends, Equalizer, Pop Fiction, Heat, Zodiac. Any other diners you can think of off the top of your head?
Bradley Inder: Okay. Okay, cool. ⁓ my god Seinfeld is so iconic That's so good. I'm not off the top of my head I do like the the shout out to pulp fiction because I think that's probably the most action and done it's ever seen to ⁓ Bitch be cool
Jez: Yeah, bitch. Yolanda, Yolanda. Yeah, be cool. Be cool. Something else which I don't know if you picked up on which I picked up on this time so Every time he has an interaction with someone before he kills them or you know with the corrupt cops before he makes them like give the money back to Ralphie's parents they always ask who are you and he never answers it he answers the Russian guy at the end by saying like That's what everybody's been asking but I feel it's like kind of cool everyone's like who the hell is this guy which again gives him a bit of that like caped crusader? mysterious like you know like having a mask on but not actually having to have the mask on because no one knows anything about this guy.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, that's actually a really good point. I didn't think about it like that. ⁓ I have got something on this point later on, but yeah, you're right. Like he is sort of anonymous without having to be anonymous. Yeah, that's a good point.
Jez: Who are your favorite vigilantes? So I had Batman and then I just before you answer I'm going to ask you are these people vigilantes? Dexter Morgan?
Bradley Inder: Okay. Yeah, I love Dexter. And yeah, as soon as you ask that question, he's the first one that came to my head.
Jez: Okay. Travis, Travis Bickle from Taxi Driver
Bradley Inder: Oh, that's a good one. I don't know if he's a vigilante.
Jez: Saves Jodie at the end? No. John McClane?
Bradley Inder: John McLean's death, actually, you I don't think he's a vigilante. I think he's just a cop that's in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Jez: cop okay. B-Trix kiddo? The bride? Kill Bill?
Bradley Inder: I think that's more revenge than vigilante.
Jez: That's what I thought too. And then Boom Docs Saints, those brothers. Okay, there you go. Any vigilantes you can think of?
Bradley Inder: I haven't seen Boondocks since. I've got Bruce Willis as David Dunn in Unbreakable. He's a vigilante in that. Yeah.
Jez: ⁓ yeah, good one actually. Yeah, really good. Okay, great one Pratt. So as you mentioned, directed by Antonio Foch. I don't know, I didn't want to say it, but he ⁓ up ⁓ a music video and one of ones I saw was Gangster's Paradise.
Bradley Inder: Is it Focka or is it Flocka? Nice, great song.
Jez: And then I'm pretty sure that, ⁓ so he directed all the Equalizer trilogy. He's most famous for Training Day, which ⁓ Oscar for Denzel and a nominee for Ethan Hawke. But I'm pretty sure Training Day, looking at IMDB, was his second movie. I was like, ⁓ my God, like that's pretty impressive for a blockbuster, I would imagine. Like I'm gonna call it a blockbuster Training Day back in the day.
Bradley Inder: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I'd definitely call it a blockbuster.
Jez: What were your thoughts about the director?
Bradley Inder: ⁓ I thought he was really good. I thought that he set the scene For for Robert Denzel's character so well So there's this one scene where Denzel's on the bus on his way home at the start of the movie and some hottie with a with a body gets up and gets gets in like stands up in front of Denzel like walking like, know to the front of the of the bus she's in short shorts like a short like a Small top but Denzel is like too engrossed in his book like so just sets the tone that Denzel is not after like, know after girls or Pick up girls or anything like that. He's like a man of moral fiber So, you know just by doing it's such a little tiny little scene, but just by doing things like that ⁓ I think it helps set characters and like what what Antoine sort of vision for the movie is ⁓ There's also another little bit which we'll get into later. We mentioned in the Russian, is it the bar or the brothel or something like that? And there's all these sort of foreshadowing parts. Like when like the guys, like Denzel's looking at the guy with the corkscrew, like opening the bottle and stuff like that. I just thought it was very clever. He did, I thought he did a fantastic job. go on your point, actually, I'll get your thoughts first and then we'll talk about his other movies.
Jez: Yes, so I What you're saying about, which I had in the scenes part, but I'll say it now. What you're saying about how he's showing like the guy opening up the wine bottle with the corkscrew. I'm like, how good is this storytelling? He's showing you the weapons in the room or things that potentially you can use. But the first time you watch it, just like, that guy's just opening up a bottle of red. And then when he uses the corkscrew, like, ⁓ of course you can use like that corkscrew there. this time around when he's moving the skulls on the desk, I'm like, ⁓ you're great. like going to use these skulls to like smash them it doesn't do anything with them I'm like okay I'm not quite sure why he's moving the skulls around but yeah I really loved ⁓ I really loved the direction and he's done some amazing movies some of my favorite movies in
Bradley Inder: Yeah, no, I agree with you. Yeah, and like the skull part of it, like you said, ⁓ actually, first of all, I'll go back what you said about the storytelling. Like you're so right. Like he is a storyteller. He's telling a story and we're understanding the story that he's telling. ⁓ The skulls, I thought was very clever. It was sort of like marking the people for death. Like you're going to die. You're going to be a skull soon. You're going to be a skull. You're going to be a skull. Like marking them for death is very cool. But yeah, let's get into his other movies. I mean, you mentioned Trey.
Jez: Yeah, that's...
Bradley Inder: Also some of the other ones I've seen, obviously I've seen the Equalizer now, Shooter, ⁓ Tears of the Sun and a cheekily underrated masterpiece, I don't know if you've seen it, but Brooklyn's Finest Man, I love that movie.
Jez: I haven't seen Brooklyn's finest but I did ask you to give me a Mount Rushmore for Antonio. Is it Antonio?
Bradley Inder: ⁓ that's the list. It's on the list. Let's just go with Antonio. He can correct. You know what? If it's wrong, Antonio, send us an email and we'll do a whole apology in the next one. ⁓ I'd have to go Training Day, Brooklyn's finest, the Equalizer now that I have seen it and probably Recency Buyer. So I'll probably go Shooter, but Teasless Sun is very good too.
Jez: Okay, what's your Mount Rushmore? Okay, I had Training Day, The Equalizer, Southpaw and Tears of the Sun. Have you seen Southpaw? It's really great. Really, really good boxing movie and like the choreography is nuts. Just like this, like the choreography in this movie is like fantastic. And speaking of that, we'll then move to Denzel. So Robert McClain, one of the all-time, so two-time Oscar winner for Glory and Training Day. ⁓
Bradley Inder: I haven't seen self before.
Jez: He's also collaborated with Tony Scott five times. As I mentioned, I love some of those movies as well. This is his first time doing a sequel. I just think he has got so much charisma. I love like just his hand movements. Like when he, when he's meeting, what is it? The restaurant with Teddy at the end, like they're having that heat moment. I would call like the Al Pacino, Robert De Niro, but like where he's just rubbing his hands, like what he does with his hands, like on his shorts, like even like his lips and mouth, like,
Bradley Inder: Yeah, I got that too, yeah.
Jez: I just think he dominates the screen. He wins every movie like in Crimson Tide when him and Jackman are going toe to toe. Like that's just what cinema is all about. Just having two people on screen that you just can't look away from. It's amazing. And then I was also thinking of this. So, which is kind of like maybe back on Antonio as well. So Denzel is hunting the Russian mafia in this movie, whereas in Training Day,
Bradley Inder: Yeah.
Jez: he's being hunted by them. And they're both directed by the same guy.
Bradley Inder: ⁓ that's good. That's good. As soon as you started saying it, I'm like, I know where you're going with this, but I never thought about that. But yeah, that that is that is a good that's good point. like that.
Jez: Yeah, I don't know if that's just like a bit of a cliche or whatever, but yeah, but, but, yeah. What were your thoughts on Denzel and Denzel overall?
Bradley Inder: Yeah, no, to your point, mean Denzel, I mean, I know I've said it on the pod a few times before about people having range, but this guy has got so much range and you can see by his catalog, the amazing movies that he's been in and like you said, sort of dominated those kind of movies. know, like to your point too, with Antoine or part of me is ⁓ Antoine, what we calling it? Ant-Ant-Antonio? ⁓ Yeah. ⁓
Jez: Just AF.
Bradley Inder: AF, okay, with AF, you know, in training day, like you can see Denzel being like, you know, fully gangster, but then like good cop and stuff like that. Whereas in this one, you know, sort of like older sort of down to earth, but then he can like, you know, brawl it out and stuff like that. he's, he's hand movers. ⁓ just the way he talks and the way he sort of like, you know, interpret the script and things like that. ⁓ I wouldn't be surprised if there were some sort of ad-lib sort of parts in, ⁓ in, in movies where he of just roll with ⁓ But yeah, he's one of the all-timers I would say.
Jez: So I've asked you for a Mount Rushmore. Now the ⁓ difference with this one to our normal ones is we're not going to pick any, you can't pick either of his Oscar movies because they're automatically a Mount Rushmore. So you can't pick Glory or Training Day. Yeah.
Bradley Inder: Yeah Cause they would both be in mine, but obviously they're not going to pick her. But you know what? I think I know, I think I know two of yours, which are going to be different from mine.
Jez: Okay, you say yours and then you say the two that you think I have.
Bradley Inder: Okay, I'm going to say one of my favorite movies, Deja Vu, Man on Fire, The Bone Collector and Philadelphia.
Jez: Okay, and which ones did you think I had?
Bradley Inder: I think you, I know you love Crimson Tide and I know you love The Siege. So I'm thinking you've got those two in there, but I completely understand if you don't because they're amazing movies.
Jez: So I was looking at the siege a little bit, I don't have the siege but I do have Crimson Tide. So ⁓ it was very very difficult because I've also got two other shoutouts. So Flight, He Got Game, Man on Fire and Crimson Tide.
Bradley Inder: Okay. It's Yeah. Nice. More Yalla Shadows.
Jez: Unstoppable and remember the Titans. ⁓ We've got that on the list because it's just the best. So David Harbour, Brad playing Masters or Frank Masters. Did you, before we get into David Harbour, did you see something in his bio or something like that that you think I might have got excited by?
Bradley Inder: Yeah, I remember the Titans as well. I've been saying Unstoppable, I need to watch that. Okay. Okay. not that, no, not that you're gonna be excited by. I knew him from Walk Among the Tombstones, which I quite like, and I know he's in Stranger Things, but I haven't seen much of that. What did you get excited about? ⁓ Yeah, sorry, knew that. Sorry, man.
Jez: So he's born on my birthday. ⁓ So other, yeah, yeah, yeah. So other, here you go. Other famous people that are, or celebrities born on my birthday. Mandy Moore, Charlie Hunman, Hunnam, Daisy Ridley playing, you know, Ray from Star Wars, Babyface, I don't know who this guy is, but he's a rapper.
Bradley Inder: ⁓ nice set us up.
Jez: ⁓ Haley Joel Osmond and Steven Seagal, John Madden. I know.
Bradley Inder: Wow, Steven Seagal and John Madden, that's bullcrap. I bet you I got no one that good on my one.
Jez: Yeah, so as you say, David Harbor or Jim Hopper from Stranger Things. I like the slimy character he had. I thought he had a pretty good Boston accent. I don't know if he's from Boston originally. ⁓ I really ⁓ enjoyed like the accent. ⁓ He's a big guy as well, which I quite enjoy. Like he does play a good dirty cop. Um, I think I haven't seen walk him on the tombstones. I've only seen him as like a copy in stranger things as well. Uh, I will say that if I was in the car when, um, he's getting suffocated, I would just be elbows and everything, trying to just smash that window. He, I know he's using the palm of his hand, but I'm like, Oh, you can put a little bit more of it into this. Can't you?
Bradley Inder: Yeah, I thought it was quite good. ⁓ One of my favorite scenes I thought... for him in this movie was when they visit the Irish people at the construction site and you can see him making that decision like he knows that shit's gonna go down and he's got his hand in his gun and he's like great I'm gonna have to take out two people because this Russian psycho is gonna fuck us all over so ⁓ but yeah I thought it was great in this movie to your point too like you know he does play like a bit of a dirty cop so yeah it was quite good
Jez: Yeah, it's so good. Thoughts on the villain Teddy, so Martin ⁓ Koskos, who's actually from New Zealand. So shout out New Zealand.
Bradley Inder: Shout out for New Zealand. He's in the Lord of the Rings. I don't really remember him. I had a quick Google and saw his picture. like, yeah, I think I have seen him.
Jez: I'll stop you there. I was thinking the same thing and then I was like, they're all the fucking same. I don't know. Like they're all got blonde hair and pointy ears like...
Bradley Inder: Yeah, they're all yeah, yeah, they all got the pale makeup on so it looked the same
Jez: Yeah, but I did think as well like, ⁓ yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, it's that guy. And then I was like, I'm not sure.
Bradley Inder: Yeah sure, I'll probably saw him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I primarily know him as Yogi in Triple X. Great movie too. ⁓ I'll go into it bit more, but yeah, I thought he was really good in this movie. I really quite enjoyed him. And it's funny because obviously I've seen him in XXX and Yogi's got longer hair. He's got shorter hair in this one. And I don't know why. He just reminds me of Kevin Spacey so much. don't know why. He just looks, he looks like Kevin Spacey,
Jez: I ⁓ enjoyed him well as well. I wasn't quite sure about his Boston accent when he visits Robert in the stairwell. I was like, is this a New Zealander trying to put on a Russian accent and trying to put on a Boston accent? I'm like, I think it's a little bit washed, lost in the wash here, but overall I enjoyed him. I thought, I thought he could have been a little bit darker. I don't know about you, cause all the research I was seeing was like, ⁓ this guy was like a really dark feeling. was like, I feel like he could have been a little bit
Bradley Inder: ⁓ good saying. Haha
Jez: darker myself a little bit more ruthless overall but he was definitely able to convey a dangerous hitman. So Bill Pullman, great to see him in this. ⁓ A lot of Bill Pullmans were watched in our house in the 90s. So I do like him. ⁓ I think it's one of the first live action movies I actually remember going to the cinema for was Casper. So as I said, he's been in my life a lot. We watched baseballs on repeat and who could...
Bradley Inder: Pizza was hot!
Jez: And who could forget Mr. in Independence Day? I was thinking whilst watching this, and look, I know he's been a lead, like let's say Spaceballs, he's a lead ⁓ in that movie and he's a lead in potentially Casper as well. But then in saying that, I don't know, is he the lead or is the daughter the lead in Casper? And is he the lead in Spaceballs or is it like everybody's movie? And the more I started to think about it, I was like, huh. Maybe he's just a really good like 1B, 1C or like 2 or 3. I don't know if he's ever just a 1. Like could you put him in Castaway? Could you put him in I Am Legend? Could you put him in... and I think that's like for actors that's like the goal. Like you know Ryan Gosling in Project Hail Mary. He's completed it. ⁓
Bradley Inder: Yeah. Yeah.
Jez: What's his name? Matt Damon in The Martian. Bang. Just one person really like dominating the screen for that. I don't know if Bill Pullman quite got there. I feel like Bill Pullman needs to have other people around with him.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, that's a great point. Just going back like you said, I mean, he was in my life in that sort of mid-90s. Obviously he was in Spaceball, but I didn't see it probably until the 90s. But, you know, Sleepers in Seattle, Casper, While You Were Sleeping, which is a good movie, Independence Day. But even in While You Were Sleeping, even though he's sort of the main dude in that movie, ⁓ it is sort of a Sandra Bullock kind of movie. And even though like the post is Sandra Bullock, Bill Pullman, it is a Sandra Bullock movie. So ⁓ to your point too, I don't know if he could do, you know, the cast away, like, you know, Hanks, 80 % of the movie. ⁓ I think we're having this discussion about, ⁓ Kevin Bacon recently too. So ⁓ yeah, I don't know if, if, if he could do that, but having said all that, I mean, I he's a good actor. And yeah, it was great to see.
Jez: So Melissa Leo, Brad have you seen the fight with Christian Bale? ⁓ So you know that this lady's the in the fighter? She won an Oscar for that. ⁓ Tremendous. Such a tremendous role in the I absolutely loved her. ⁓ I feel like Bill and Melissa
Bradley Inder: Christian bell. I have, yes. ⁓ Yes. Yes.
Jez: They're in it for a short page. They're only really in it for one scene. So they don't get to cook too much, but they do pretty well. you know, I didn't think she had, as I said, a whole lot to do, but I still think she was great when she says to, you know, when she turns to bill and she's like, he came to ask for permission. I'm like, hell yeah. Like this is, this is, here we go. Yeah. Here we go. What did you think of Melissa?
Bradley Inder: We're on. Yeah, she was great. mean she didn't really have too big a role, like Bill Pullman didn't really have too big a role. ⁓ yeah, I thought she was great. ⁓ Her catalogue of movies was amazing. I was just having a quick look earlier. I mean I know she did Prisoners the year before this, which is a great movie. ⁓ But yeah, I thought, you know, I think this is a good role for her. Like she did this role well.
Jez: Chloe Grace Mutt. So Terry, who plays Terry. I didn't realize but it's the same girl from Kick-Ass. Have you seen Kick-Ass? Okay.
Bradley Inder: I haven't, I think I've seen parts of it, but I haven't seen it. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah.
Jez: So she was 17 at time of filming. I thought she was fine. I didn't think she was anything special. did in the research, I saw that she hung out with real prostitutes and they told her to put on weight because apparently if you're a prostitute, got to be have a little bit of meat on the bone I guess they say ⁓ in case yeah well in case apparently other things go down so you can kind of defend yourself or whatever but it sounds a little dark yeah don't want to go too far into that but what did you think of Terry or Chloe?
Bradley Inder: little bit of cushion for the pushing. Throw your weight around, as they say. Yeah, I thought she was fine. It's funny how she's sort of like the center point or the reason why McCall sort of goes back to the way he was before. But then she's only in it for the first sort of 25 minutes or whatever. And then after that, you don't see her again until the end. So, yeah, I mean, I thought she portrayed, what, prostitute or whatever would go through in terms of having a bit of a hard life and things like that. yeah, I thought she did what she needed to do in this movie.
Jez: Yeah, I was thinking about that as well when I was watching it again for the second time this week. Yeah, she's only at the start kind of she does her thing. She gets beaten up and then Denzel is like, all right, I'm back. And then yeah, she's at the end like, ⁓ thanks for helping me out. And he's like, you've unleashed the beast lady. But yeah, thanks as well. So production funny, weird things that we found while researching. as I mentioned earlier, Denzel's first sequel ⁓ and really his first franchise movie as well. So he's always avoided that. So he's initially hesitant, but the director ⁓ convinced him to come along. As I mentioned, he was 59. ⁓ when he was making this movie. Koskas or Teddy stayed in character between takes and him and Denzel didn't really interact or socialize too much during the filming of this to maintain that tension. ⁓ Did you have some production or weird stories you found? I've got a couple others.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, it's weird. There was a couple of earlier... people wanting to have a go at creating this movie based on the TV show that you mentioned earlier. But ⁓ it's funny in June 2010, it was announced that Russell Crowe was trying to bring back the equalizer to the big screen ⁓ and Crowe was intending to play Robert McCall. And it's funny because you mentioned it obviously before, Denzel's Oscar nominations and I feel like it right there, like training day and gladiator and things like that, it felt like for a while. it was Russell Crowe versus Denzel Washington. So to see when I was researching this to see that Russell was potentially gonna do it but then it ended up being Denzel I'm like ⁓ it's just another stage of the saga between Russell and Denzel who I'm sure are probably very good friends in real life so yeah.
Jez: Yeah, cool. Yeah, I didn't see that. thought ⁓ using the real Home Depot store was just awesome. I'm like, whenever you can use something that's like, you don't have to build a set or anything like that. I can't believe they let them use it, but I'm like, hell yeah. The diner is also was a real working diner. They did make like a makeshift one for some scenes. But again, like I think it really authenticated the movie and just like, it just plays so well when you're watching it. You're like, that's a real Home Depot or warehouse that they're in.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, I'd have been on that later on, but I'll just say now, like, man, I can't believe like, call my Bunnings over here. I like it's such a cool idea, like for a location for like a bit of a manhunt and stuff. mean, if you and I had our little laser guns and stuff back in the day and you said, go run around Bunnings and have fun, like, you know, laser laser tag things that man, we would have a ball. That would have been so good. So to actually have it in like a Home Depot, I thought was a really cool idea.
Jez: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Denzel, as I mentioned, 59, he trained intensively for six months. He learned Kraav Maga, which is a Filipino martial arts and tactical weapons handling. He did his own stunts as well. The Office 16 second scene, that was all where he attacks the first five pimp guys. So that was all shot in one take to show the choreography, which I thought was pretty unbelievable.
Bradley Inder: Wow. Wow, that's insane.
Jez: And then something which ⁓ realized and then I looked it up just to double confirm So Robert never actually is showing shooting a firearm. So he never actually kills anybody with a gun in the office where the guy gets shot in the neck, he twists the henchman's arm so it's forcing him to shoot his boss. He does use the nail gun but it's not an actual handgun or machine gun so I thought it was pretty cool. You never see him use it, doesn't say that he doesn't, like I think maybe when he's in Moscow he might use some type of gun or something but ⁓ everyone else is neutralized by creative ways.
Bradley Inder: Okay. Yeah, that's cool. It's funny you mention that. Because as soon he said it, I was like, didn't he shoot the main Russian dude? Like, you know, the five Pym Toons or whatever. yeah, you're right. He twists the arm of the other guy who obviously discharged the gun. So yeah, that's cool. He does use like a lot of knives and corkscrews and books and whatever else is lying around.
Jez: Box office Brad, what are the numbers?
Bradley Inder: So the production cost of this movie was around $55- $73 million but worldwide it box-officed $192.3 million with a domestic US of about $101.5 million but it opened number one in the US box-office. So yeah, for a mid-budget R-rated movie, think it performed quite well and you can see why they got the green light to turn this into a trilogy.
Jez: Nice. So Transformers Age of Extinction was number one that year and it made a billion dollars. And then The Hobbit, The Battle, I haven't seen any of The Hobbit so I wouldn't bother that, but that was just under a billion. So apparently I was listening to something the other day. Peter Jackson is the... has made the most money out of films or the most successful box office because it's all Lord of Rings and yeah, and the Hubbits. So like everything, each one made a, you know, a billion. So Oscars and awards, so no Oscars, but should they be nominated or won any?
Bradley Inder: Because it's all one of the reasons. Nearly a billion each I think, yeah. Well, I was thinking, you know, AF, ⁓ Denzel and Martin Costas could have probably got a shout out for me. But then when I was looking at it, mean, Jake Gyllenhaal didn't even get a nod for Nightcrawler. So if he didn't even get the nod for that, then these guys had no chance. ⁓ But AF, thought, having a look at the other list of the other people, I thought maybe he could have got a look.
Jez: Yeah. was pretty stacked for best actor. My man Michael Keaton got robbed for Birdman from Eddie Redmond. ⁓
Bradley Inder: He was good in that. That was a good movie. Birdman.
Jez: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Steve Carell, Foxcatcher as well. I also was like, ⁓ I think one of those two maybe should have won. But I also haven't seen the theory of everything. So take that with a grain of salt. So the scenes. So first scene that I put down was the late night diner where he's reading the novels with Lana and chatting with her. ⁓ You know. or I guess they're bonding over a literature and he's telling her about how he's reading all the books that his wife wanted to read. Any thoughts on that scene?
Bradley Inder: I'm a big sort of flashbacks kind of guy, so maybe I could have done with a couple of flashbacks of him with his wife or something like that. ⁓ but yeah, but I think, I think. that after that one, sort of leads into ⁓ the tire pulling scene, ⁓ you know, where he's training up the guy to become like a security guard. And that gave me like real man on fire vibes when he's teaching Dakota Fanning to like swim and stuff. So I've got that same kind of vibe from that movie as I did from this one.
Jez: Nice and then ⁓ so Denzel sees Slavi turn up and hit ⁓ Alana or Terry and then chucks you in the car. He then goes to negotiate. the 9,000, if someone offers you $9,800 for a female, I think maybe you accept it. So I did some research. $9,800 was because apparently if you take out a $10,000 loan, it gets like tracked by the government or the IRS. So if you take out $9,800, it doesn't, there's no trail or anything like that. Yeah. But then going,
Bradley Inder: That's cool.
Jez: into the is it 29 seconds or 17 seconds I kind of keep getting confused but the 20 I'm gonna call the 29 second scene as we're saying like the camera shot of the corkscrew setting up the weapons in the room locking the door I'm just like shit's about to get real hell and then when he's talking slowly through how he's going to die and then starts counting I'm like that is so brutal any thoughts on that
Bradley Inder: Ha ha ha! Yeah, that, that, that whole scene is just so good. And up to your point when he, sits down and he's going, he's going like your heart rate's like beating three times faster than normal, which means you got about 30 seconds to live. And then the guy's like, knowing that he's got 30 seconds to live, ask the question, who are you? It's just like, he's not going to be able to tell anybody who killed him anyway. ⁓ but yeah, but yeah, like you said, like he's all about the counting and stuff and he starts counting down and the guy like blacks out to death. Yeah. It was, that whole scene was very cool.
Jez: Yay. Then we said the arrival of Teddy the Fixer coming in. ⁓ Well before that Ralphie making weight I kind of enjoy some of those training scenes and things like that but the Fixer. ⁓ Do you think Teddy was a better fixer than the Wolf Brad?
Bradley Inder: No, no one's better than the wolf. You say the wolf? Hell, that's all you have to say!
Jez: ⁓ Comes in hot though with the sit down with all the boys around the table and he's kind of like telling them how terrible job they're And then I think one of your ones when Teddy visits the Irish Boston mafia, little Johnny, don't call him little Johnny or whatever.
Bradley Inder: demanding a lift back to his hotel. Little John... Don't call him Little... Don't tell him not to call him Little John, because he's gonna call him Little John and shit's gonna go down.
Jez: Yeah. What did you think of Teddy's tats when he's talking to Pushkin?
Bradley Inder: ⁓ my god, that was sick bro. Yeah, if yeah, maybe yeah, maybe I'll go out and get a few. He's inspired me.
Jez: Back tat's pretty cool. Better than Red Dragon back tat?
Bradley Inder: 100 % better than Red Dragon. 100%. You like it better than Red Dragon?
Jez: i can't remember what the ⁓ reggie agrim was was not that good is that you're pretty quick to turn it down
Bradley Inder: It's kind of like, it's kind of like, ⁓ it looks like dragons little horns and like dragon wings and the back of a dragon and stuff. So, but this is much better. think.
Jez: Okay. Yeah. I did though think, you know, I do, do like to look at a good male body, especially if it's a little bit jacked. I wouldn't say he was so jacked, but ⁓ not too many scars for a war hero. A couple of scars, maybe.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, you're right. You're right. Do know what's funny with all those like tattoos? It's sort of I've got those like Yakuza kind of vibes, you know, like the Japanese mafia that you know, they're like they're fully tattered out underneath but they wear suits over the top. So you never know that they're Yakuza until they take off their shirts and stuff. So yeah, it was pretty cool.
Jez: So the Mexican extortion with the corrupt cops, ⁓ I love it when the guys are backing up and they're like, this fucking guy, back up. And then they're giving it to them. But then when they have to hand the money to the parents or whatever, they're this is more embarrassing than the booting or whatever they say.
Bradley Inder: Ha ha ha! Yeah, that was good. That was good.
Jez: The interrogation, when Teddy interrogates the other Russian prozzie, I would be absolutely shitting myself. Like, when he's like, you telling me the truth, I'm like, lol, I'd like, yeah, fuck man. And then like again, shitting bricks when he's like touching ⁓ the face, you know, this is before he chokes her out or kills her. Like, ⁓ it reminded me of showdown in a little Tokyo when, ⁓ you know, the, the mouth of the Japanese mafia guy is like got the lady before he grabs a samurai sword and like cuts her neck or whatever. Yep. Yep. I did. I think that glass of water is definitely falling off the table as she's getting choked. Like she's kicked. don't know why she's not kicking harder.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, when he gets to the glass of water and stuff. ⁓ and chops their head off. Yeah, yeah. Oh, how do I say it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jez: So Teddy then tracks down ⁓ Robert to his home, posing as the police officer, and they have that little, I guess the first cat and mouse begins, and he's like, shouldn't you be leaving me a card or whatever?
Bradley Inder: That is so good. I love that saying. Yeah, that's so good. oh, but you already know I was there officer. He's like, and he's like, yeah, shouldn't, shouldn't you, shouldn't you leave your card in case I've got more information I can get back to you and stuff. And then he's like showing him the picture of the dead girl. was like, do you know this girl and everything? Yeah, man. That was a great scene.
Jez: Yeah. Why do you he just kills him just then?
Bradley Inder: That was a good point, I thought about that too, but maybe he doesn't know 100 % if he is the killer or B, like if he doesn't know who he's working for. So if he's like working for somebody else, then maybe he wants to obviously kill him, but then find out who else he's working for too.
Jez: I had to include the baseball scene because I do love a good sports scene in a movie. How was he hitting them? Do you reckon Brad? reckon? So he's an outfielder, but you reckon he's like a Darrell Strawberry? Like what are we thinking?
Bradley Inder: You alluded to it, so go there. Yeah, I reckon, I reckon with his skillset, reckon he's slogging a few home runs.
Jez: Yeah I was thinking like his eyesight must be pretty good like that would be a freaking basketball that he's swinging at. ⁓ My next question is, is Ralphie playing or is he too big? Maybe a catcher? I don't know. Can he get down that low?
Bradley Inder: Yeah. Yeah, he could be a catcher. What do you think about Denzel stealing the other guy's catch?
Jez: Nah, yeah, yeah, we clearly get his stats. It's Denzel. Yeah. Well, what we probably didn't see is the guys probably dropped like four and so Denzel's like, we're like, we've got to get to the finals. Like, we've to get this out.
Bradley Inder: ⁓ The guy's going for the catch and Denzel just like runs through a catcher and keeps jogging like he's the hero of the day. ⁓ I can't get I can't let old mate Johnny attempt this one. He's gonna drop it again
Jez: ⁓ I added in the registry robbery so when the lady at the hardware store was getting robbed like I just love how cool and calm Denzel is and he's just like give her give him the ring give him the ring I didn't know like why wouldn't he just take the guy out but then I guess he doesn't want all the like
Bradley Inder: He's like smiling.
Jez: Because I don't think she would say anything like if he took her out he she wouldn't be like ⁓ my god this guy's like ⁓ Navy Seals blah blah blah she'd just be like ⁓ cool like I've got my ring back or whatever I was then thinking though though that like I guess on the CCTV footage they would see stuff but again does it really matter if you're like a good fighter I don't know I'm pretty good at jiu-jitsu
Bradley Inder: Yeah. I think he was sort of, he's sort of doing the count in his head, but then he saw the little boy walk in with the mum or whatever at the same time. So he must've calculated that that little boy might've been in danger or got crossfire or ricochet or something like that. So he aborted that plan.
Jez: Okay. And there's a couple of scenes where like the yada yada yada, like when he gets all the money and stuff back and then he gives the money back like a company man. But, ⁓ I sys like, enjoyed, or I suspect maybe they cut out the beating up part, but I didn't mind that. And there's another scene where they maybe yada yada a little bit as well, which again, I might have some issues in other movies, but in this movie, I was like, cool, just keep the story flowing.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's a good point. I'll bring up something else about it. Yada yada later.
Jez: Teddy ready to ⁓ ambush apartment so ⁓ that's they go in to McCall's and he's already evaded it.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, he's got like that. He's got like the house or the apartment like across the street and he's like spying on them as they're coming into his apartment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was cool.
Jez: Yeah, and that's when the guys like, man this guy's got a lot of fucking books. I did like the, one of the others, one of my favorite ones as well. The fake construction worker, when he comes into the, into the diner and then, ⁓ Robert's just like your hands, your hands aren't dirty for a construction worker or whatever. ⁓ yeah.
Bradley Inder: Ha ha ha. He's like, he goes to go, so we waiting for anybody else or? ⁓ Yeah, that was so good. love that.
Jez: And then I just also put like whenever he starts his stuff, watch you like someone's about to get fucked up here. Leading into then the first fight with Teddy and the Russians when he just walks out and he casually just snaps photos of them all in the car. And then ⁓ he runs off, but I really enjoy like the snapping of the photos as he's walking past the car.
Bradley Inder: Someone's going down. Ha Yeah, that's good. It's like a turning the tables kind of moment. I like it.
Jez: And then after that, when he has to self heal himself with the hot honey, that would be so painful. ⁓ I do like that he licks it and puts it in his mouth, but like, I'd need to be biting down on something. I don't know. Like this guy, ⁓ is just so tough. ⁓
Bradley Inder: Yeah Yeah, no, you're right. That would be so friggin painful to do. yeah, you can tell he's like, you know, just ex military, like he's probably done this like a hundred times before. So yeah, but yeah, that was cool.
Jez: And then I like when he goes and visits the plumbers. So seeking permission in Virginia. ⁓ you didn't take out five pence, Robert, and he learns all about Teddy and his background. you do something about it because you can. ⁓ but again, you know, he didn't came, he came asking for permission at the end. Like, it's just like, we're, we're about to, we're about to, we're about to go here. Yeah.
Bradley Inder: Ha ha! This movie is going next level 100%.
Jez: We're at the top of the mountain and it's going to be a wild ride down. Then the Frank Masters kidnapping or what do you call it? Suffocating? where he gets, where Frank's all paranoid that the Russians are after him as well because he's stuffed up. So his car alarm goes off and then he goes out into his car and he's just sitting there and he's kind of keeps winding down the window and just like, he doesn't really have to say anything to him and he just winds it back up. And then he's like, all right, I'll check you. And he just walks out. I would be losing it.
Bradley Inder: Yeah. Yeah, that was cool. I the first time he like rolls the window then he goes like, I'm not even gonna tell me anything, So I'm just gonna roll the window back up again. Just like,
Jez: And then going into the cartel operation, I like it, sorry, when after he gets everyone to sort of put down their guns, I like it first how he's got the cop and he's like, Pushkin says like, blah, blah, blah. And the Russian guy's like just drinking, I don't know, wine or vodka or whatever. And he's like, all right. I do enjoy how it's like a butcher shop out the front. And then as you go through each room, it's sort of more and more like dodgy or just full of money. Yep, yep. ⁓
Bradley Inder: Yeah. Money laundering. Yeah.
Jez: always love like just a room with piles of money in there.
Bradley Inder: Who's this guy? I'm the new guy. Pushkin sent me. Yeah, that's good.
Jez: Then I enjoy the, ⁓ this is what I call like the heat scene where him and Teddy, so Robert and Teddy meet at the restaurant after he takes out his security guy and just chucks the glasses on the table. And they have that, yeah. And like he tells them about the book that he's been reading and like, there's a lot of, then he talks about like the ⁓ Russian police officer. So direct at the Russian police officer, is that Teddy?
Bradley Inder: Ha broken glasses with blood. Yeah, great.
Jez: Is Teddy the kid?
Bradley Inder: No, I think, I think maybe it's Denzel the kid. Cause Denzel speaks Russian too.
Jez: Yeah, okay, yeah, I wasn't quite sure but
Bradley Inder: Maybe Denzel's adopted and he was the Russian kid. But yeah, was something that I'm like, ooh, what's going on here? They both know about this story. yeah.
Jez: Yeah, I wasn't quite sure there, but I do love it's great when he's like, what do see when you look at me?
Bradley Inder: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was awesome.
Jez: So the oil tanker strike, this is my next sort of yada yada, which is fine with, I'm happy for him just to be walking away and the oil tanker blows up. I would have liked to seen a little bit more urgency from Denzel as like half of Boston is blowing up around him. He's very casual, especially that that truck, oil truck blows up as well or gas truck. Like I'm like a slight jog wouldn't, you know, might be needed here.
Bradley Inder: Hahaha Yeah, or time it better so you're much further away from the crime when the bomb goes off.
Jez: Then leading into the hostage situation, which is great that they kind of bring back, you know, setting up why you see so much of the work colleagues at the start to bring them back in. And now he's like, ⁓ God, I've got them back to the, to the warehouse, ⁓ guerrilla war. Like that is just that last 15, 20 minutes when we're in the warehouse, is just so amazing. So
Bradley Inder: Yeah, it's awesome.
Jez: I love how he's using the hardware store tools on all the people. So Brad, what would be worse? The barbed wire hanging, ⁓ the drill, a tree trimmer to the neck, a microwave bomb or the nail gun or the screw nail gun? Yeah, nail gun.
Bradley Inder: I... yeah, Danelgun. I think probably the barbed wire hanging because the other ones seem a bit more instantaneous. So you know, you'd be hanging knowing you're gonna die and you're just waiting out the... waiting out the death part. So yeah, I reckon that's probably the worst one. What about you?
Jez: Yeah, yeah, I think I'd like to be drilled or tree trimmer. Maybe the bomb. Yeah, maybe the bomb as well. Cause the bomb, probably the bomb actually. Cause that just takes it out. Then the nail gun climax. did you, what were you thinking when like you look at, Ralphie looks up and you see the nail in the wall.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, was like instantaneous. Yeah. Ha Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was cool. Like obviously I knew that it was Denzel there to save the day, but was, was pretty cool.
Jez: And the Moscow, the Moscow trip is awesome. That house is friggin amazing. so good. I love it as well. How he kind of keeps turning the light on and off. And I think it clicked with me the last time. Maybe he has to keep turning it off because he doesn't want the electricity on. I don't know if that's what it was, but, ⁓ or maybe it's some psych psychological kind of warfare type thing, but I love, he's like, why are here? And he's like, to get the head of the snake.
Bradley Inder: Smick. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was cool.
Jez: And then he's like, what for? Like, what was it? He's like, peace. He's like, ⁓ I can buy peace.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but like, you know that Pruskin, even if he, even if Pruskin could buy a piece and like let this guy go, you know that he's always going to hunt down and track down Denzel. So anyway, for Denzel to get out of this mess is by killing him.
Jez: Yeah, yeah. And then I guess meeting Terry at the end and then posting the ad and responding to people that need help. Any other scenes Brad you want to mention?
Bradley Inder: No, I think he covered it all, so I think we can go into the Hans Gruber.
Jez: What was your Hans Gruber bread?
Bradley Inder: ⁓ I had ⁓ so many good scenes but I think my favourite one was the Russian bar brothel scene where he kills the five guys at the start. It happened pretty quick and it's the first time I knew that Denzel's character, Robert, was like this and I'm like, ⁓ shit, we're on now. So yeah, I quite enjoyed that.
Jez: Yeah, I had that as well. Is it the 29 second slaughter or the 16 second slaughter? Like I will never in my life be bored of watching that. If someone puts that on, I could probably watch that. Um, you know, just timeless.
Bradley Inder: Yeah.
Jez: Camera work as well. felt a little bit like Guy Ritchie and Sherlock Holmes where like maybe setting up like what I'm going to do before I do it. You know when Robert Downey is like fighting one of the big guys and he's like, ⁓ I'll like whack him in the knee and dislocate his knee. Then I'll like hit his elbow or whatever. And he kind of, then he goes bang, bang, bang and does it. He doesn't do it to that extent where he's actually explaining, but it's quite quick kind of look into his eyes and he's like, okay, bang gun, like screwdriver, blah, blah, blah. And then he just, he just goes with it.
Bradley Inder: Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Jez: ⁓ yeah, really great. So apart from, so best quote apart from this guy has a lot of fucking books. What was your favorite quote?
Bradley Inder: Um, uh, I've got a few, uh, I liked when he said, um, when Ralphie's like, well, what happened to your hand? And he goes, I hit it on something stupid. That was pretty funny. Um, I also like, talked about it for like a weird, we weren't doing anybody else. Like when he's in the diner. Um, but I think, I think the one that's like the most, I guess, for loss of full or philosophy sort of, whatever you want to call it. Um, I think when Robert goes, when you pray for rain, you got to deal with the mud.
Jez: Yeah.
Bradley Inder: So I really enjoyed that quote. Really? Nice, nice.
Jez: I had the exact same one. yeah, yeah, yeah. So there you go. But I'll go to find this guy has a lot of fucking books. Best song of school.
Bradley Inder: Yeah I had New Dawn Fades by Moby. I really enjoyed that song. ⁓ look at that. Is it? Nice.
Jez: Yeah, I had that as well. ⁓ Also used in heat. Yeah, I didn't also I didn't mind the score as well like the score at the end, but I think it was just new dawn fade as well at the end. So yeah, any pre 2000s I've got one even though it's maybe not pre 2000s, but you got any pre 2000s?
Bradley Inder: Yeah I was really trying to dig for something and I really couldn't find anything because it is 2014 and it is sort of that. So I'd love to hear your pre-2000s.
Jez: handing out CDs to promote your singing career.
Bradley Inder: ⁓ that's a good one Jeremy, that's a good one.
Jez: Another CD. Yeah, we've already done the CD though from the best offer, but you know, maybe not so much pre 2000s, but you know, there you go. Benjamin button, Brad, what's the Benjamin button?
Bradley Inder: Good one. I had I love the unsaid truth so we go back to that scene again where Teddy rocks up pretending to be the cop. Robert knows that Teddy isn't a cop. Teddy knows that Robert's the guy that's responsible for everything but they're both playing their character well so you know neither of them broke character like hey you want to leave me a card? No it's okay. Hey have you seen this person? This person's dead. Have you talked to them? No I haven't but they both know that they're lying to each other so I just I just thought I love that unsaid truth that they're both just playing their character. I really enjoyed that.
Jez: Any others?
Bradley Inder: Maybe having a big final confrontation in front of a Walmart or a Bunnings I thought was pretty cool too. But no, that's what I had, the unsaid truth.
Jez: Yeah, cool. Yeah, I've got a few. So using a corkscrew as a weapon, just awesome. The country estate, so the plumbers country estate, loved it, love a big property. And then the Russian mansion too. ⁓ Using the real hardware store in the final battle, as I already said, that just rocks. That's awesome, as you said as well. Stopwatches, great use of stopwatches.
Bradley Inder: Hahaha
Jez: ⁓ Healing yourself with home supplies, so the hot honey and then the door handle. When he does the door handle as well, I'm like, God, this guy's tough.
Bradley Inder: The hot honey, it's not just for sore throats, it's for bullet wounds too.
Jez: Yeah, Robert locking people so when he locks people in the office locks people in the car locks people in the warehouse like I just I think it's just like now you're you know in What is it watchmen when like rankshaw goes to jail and they like lock they lock him in the jail because they want to beat him up and he's like No, you're in here with me and he like goes absolutely nuts ⁓ Villains in a suit always enjoy that and then russian villains just always works especially because they're you know bad boys at the moment what's your favorite villain or favorite type of villain brad
Bradley Inder: Yeah, Russian villains is a great call out. I think my favourite villain is someone that has been betrayed and they've got like a reason to be villainous. Like if you're looking at like, you know, Goldeneye, like, you know, Sean Sean Bean's character and that, like he's got a reason to hate James Bond because James Bond set the timer wrong and ⁓ he got scarred and everything for that. So I think ⁓ a villain with a is probably one of my favourite villains.
Jez: like Tommy Lee in Under Siege. You tried to kill me, you son of a bitch. I had Sega from No Country for Old Men and Joker Dark Knight as well. Sega, cause you don't think you really know, he's just a hired, hired hit man. He's got no emotion. He's whatever. He's just there to do a job.
Bradley Inder: Yes. Yeah. Welcome to the revolution. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's great.
Jez: What's age the worst?
Bradley Inder: So I had unsaid truths as the best. had unseen truths as the worst. So bear with me for a minute, but the ending, like it was cool, but I think it would have been so much better if they had filmed, like filmed the actual ending. So don't leave it to my imagination of him running through the mansion and killing everyone. I want to see him running through the mansion and killing everyone. So I think that would have been really good, but maybe they Thought that they weren't doing a second movie. So maybe this could if they knew that maybe they could have left Pushkin as like the second episode again I haven't seen equalizer two or three But maybe they could have left that way he goes to Moscow and tracks him down and kills them all but you know He kills pushkin and then then it zooms out and keeps zooming out and this guy's dead and this guy's dead and this guy's dead This guy's there. It's like man. I would have loved to seen him going around the house. Just killing everyone
Jez: I loved that. I loved it. We are like, ⁓ shit. Cause even when he's like talking to pushkin turn the light on and you're like, is that blood on his face? And then when it kind of zooms out and you just see like everyone that's dead throughout and then on the cars and stuff in the backyard, look, they could have done maybe like a little like, you know, 1.5 speed through as he's walking out and like just maybe do like a flashback of him running through killing them. But I don't think you need it. And potentially could have been maybe too unrealistic if there's all these guys with machines. guns and he's like running around killing them I don't know ⁓ anything else that age the worst for you
Bradley Inder: No, no, that's not that's that's what I had. What did you have?
Jez: 7.30am is a little bit late for a weekday alarm.
Bradley Inder: I guess if you're a single man living in an apartment you've to be at work at night and you could probably push in that sleep in in the morning.
Jez: Yeah. ⁓ leaving the tap on, ⁓ I understand maybe cause they want to make a noise, but come on guys, save the water. And then a big one, which I thought of just today when I was watching it. So Robert's phones on loud during the cat and mouse in the warehouse. So just call him again, Nicola. You'll know where he is.
Bradley Inder: In this economy? Hahaha
Jez: Who are you having a beer with, Brad?
Bradley Inder: ⁓ Well, I didn't know she was 17 but I had Alina. Let's grab a drink, sweetness, but no, I'm not that guy. Maybe I'll wait a year and I'll take her out when she's 18. We'll have a drink then.
Jez: Are you the big Russian guy in the limo that's waving her rope? Okay, I thought there was a pretty obvious choice for this one. So I had Brian and Susan Plummer. It looked like they brought out the best wine when Robert turned up for lunch or dinner. ⁓ Brian's having a whiskey as well. Like they're all there just to entertain. They've got that massive estate. I dare say they don't have that many guests, but something very disappointing. Robert's having a tea.
Bradley Inder: That's true. That's true. Yeah, I know right. He's got to his killing senses prime. But no, you're right actually. In hindsight, I mean a weekend away at their place. That'd be amazing I think.
Jez: Yeah. So I know you mentioned earlier that ⁓ Russell Crowe was in the running to be in this movie. Did you find out anyone else in the running or is there anyone that you'd like to replace if you were the casting director?
Bradley Inder: Mm-hmm. Yeah, great question. Casting director, as soon as this Teddy guy rocked up, like, you know, getting out of the plane and everything like that into his car, like his arrival, I instantly, instantly thought, man, if they had Ray Stevenson ⁓ playing this guy, I thought this would be unbelievable. So for those of you that don't know, he played Dagenet in King Arthur, which was another movie by AF. But he's also famous for the Ukrainian mobster, Isaac Zirko in season 7 of Dexter. ⁓ I don't know if you remember that ⁓ but he's been in like heaps of stuff he's been in like you know TV shows like Rome and Black Sails and in movies like the Book of Eli and the other guys and Volkswagen and Thor movies but he is a really cool sort of badass Ukrainian monster in Dexter and as soon as this guy got out I thought this this this would be a great part for him ⁓ but having said that I did think that ⁓ that Martin Kosk ⁓ did actually do quite well in this movie.
Jez: Yeah I liked I liked Martin because I didn't know him and so I was like this is cool but I know this Ray Stevenson guy so sadly I don't know him from any of the shows that well I've seen ⁓ he's in Black Sails as well okay I've seen ⁓ Dexter but I know him from ⁓ Ahsoka he's in the Star Wars Ahsoka so ⁓ yeah there you go
Bradley Inder: Yeah. Yes. Yes.
Jez: i didn't really have anyone for this i couldn't really think of anyone because i like you're really going to get someone to play terry like she's as you said she's not really in it for that long so it's not like you'd be like ⁓ margo robbie like okay great like
Bradley Inder: Yeah. Yeah, what's the point? Like it's 20 minutes.
Jez: What character could Bruce Campbell have played?
Bradley Inder: I had, he's a hardware store guy who knows too much. Bruce Campbell walks past Robert, he's working in the Home Depot, Campbell goes to Robert, you didn't hear it from me, but the barbecue on sale on R4, you can get that at S-Mart for nearly half that price.
Jez: Awesome. Had the diner manager owner so Jake I believe his name was so the only thing I had something short So at the start when Terry has to leave To she's eating a pie and Jake gives it to her for free because she has to go shag someone I imagine she thanks him. So Bruce no problem, baby She walks out. Did you think the diner guy was maybe like paid off by the Russians? You know when the high vis comes in with the clean hands the diner guys like ⁓ I got to get something. Yeah, I gotta get something from the
Bradley Inder: Nice. ⁓ you have to suddenly go to the back.
Jez: I'm like, but then he's in there the whole time at the end. So I'm like, ⁓ maybe he's not in on it, but it seemed a little bit convenient
Bradley Inder: I've got something on that later, not specifically about the Diner guy, but yeah, I've got something on that later.
Jez: Okay. So does this so movie runtime two hours and 11 minutes. does this movie to deserve to be over two hours, Brad.
Bradley Inder: I, man, I thought it was a little bit too long. There's probably a couple of things you could cut. again, like don't get me wrong, like the blowing up of like the oil tanker and stuff is super cool. But I mean, did you need it? Like you don't really need it. You know what I mean? So, ⁓
Jez: I think yeah, you sort of need it though, because that's like then they've stuffed the whole operation and the Russian guys now like you got it like it kind of puts them in the position of like, all right, we've got to take the hostages to like get this guy out in the open.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, yeah, but I mean it is hard to sort of trim on this movie, but I'm not a huge fan of a two-hour movie So like like like I sort of touched on before maybe he could have done that that post-mosco part for like Episode two, but they probably didn't know that they were filming an episode two. So they had to wrap it up. But what are your thoughts?
Jez: Yeah, look, I maybe you could trim this like again, I get like you I like a movie two hours a run up. I think you could probably trim the start a little bit. Like there's maybe one too many dinos scenes. It could be maybe one too many interactions with Ralphie. I understand that you need to have the interaction with the work colleagues because then that sets up the end of him rescuing them. But he's a nice good guy anyway. Like you could have Ralphie at lunch and then maybe Ralphie doing something else. Maybe you didn't need the scene where the lady's getting robbed in the hardware store or in the warehouse. Like that doesn't really add too much to it. And then as you
Bradley Inder: Yeah, although
Jez: said, like at the ending, you could probably trim down like, Hey, Robert, I've been like looking over all the bus stops. You know, I've been coming here every day to see like they could have a quick interaction. Maybe you don't need him emailing yet. People at the end. don't know. could, you could, you could trim 10 minutes, I think though, pretty easily, but it's saying it, it's fine. It runs, it runs well. It's not, it's not too big a deal, but yeah, I think you can trim a little bit.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like. Yeah. Like even, even, ⁓ was it Ralphie's mom? Like, you know, with the insurance money scam, the cops and stuff like that. I mean, I guess you could get all that part out. Like, you you don't, don't need it.
Jez: So Porn Title, I had the climax-alizer. Once the stopwatch begins, it only takes 16 seconds to get started.
Bradley Inder: The climax. that's a good one. ⁓ I went, ⁓ I went on a play of, ⁓ you know, that James Bond movie from Russia with love I had from Boston with love. So Robert gets back at Pushkin by organizing Boston prostitutes to operate in Moscow, further cutting down his business clients. They even realized that the girls don't have a Boston accent as they always have their mouth full.
Jez: Best outfit or prop? What are you taking straight to the pool room?
Bradley Inder: We might have the same thing. I went the watch.
Jez: No, okay, different. Good one though. I had the painting, I think it's a painting of Mary, I believe. It's in Slavie's office and it gets bloodstained on it so you see it a second time. Yeah, just imagine it must be expensive but I also love a good painting so I decided that.
Bradley Inder: ⁓ yeah, that's good too. Nice, nice, that's a good one too.
Jez: Frederick Zula, I'm sure we got the same, but who was your best performance on or off screen?
Bradley Inder: Oh, I actually don't reckon we do. Um, I originally went with, uh, with Marta and Kostka's, but because I had that whole Ray Stevenson thing, I thought maybe not. So I actually had AF. I thought his direction in this movie was awesome. And the way that he was able to tell the story I felt like really came through for me. So I know you got me a couple of, a couple of pods ago with, um, yeah, um, dead presidents. And I thought the directing was amazing on that. Um, and the directing on this was amazing as well. So yeah, it was really good. I had him.
Jez: proud of you mate, I'm glad we don't have the same person. So I went Denzel. He just, as I said, wins every scene he's in. ⁓ Love him, but I had the director close second. Brad, what happens after the credits stop?
Bradley Inder: Thumbs up. Yeah. I had equalizer 2, so I haven't seen it, so was just gonna ask you, is it worth a watch?
Jez: I ⁓ can't remember it. I haven't seen it. What I saw online researching this one is Bill Pullman's in it more. Yeah, so there you go. So maybe it is of interest, but ⁓ yeah, exactly. I can't remember it though. Maybe I'll have to watch it and then I'll remember it, but I'm sure it will be on this podcast at a future time.
Bradley Inder: ⁓ wow. This goes from a 1D to a 1C.
Jez: I had, so Masters is raped and then quartered by the Russian mafia within 24 hours of him being in prison. I had Denzel jetlagged from his return from Moscow wins the baseball league hitting two homies in the handyman cup. And I had a question, is Robert looking for a new job?
Bradley Inder: The handyman cup. Man, I love it when you go to that detail. That's the best. ⁓ Is Robert looking for a new job? I've got an area quick. saw that later. So, but yes, he should be. He should be.
Jez: You Okay, he should be I didn't have any theories this week. Did you have any theories?
Bradley Inder: ⁓ did, but you already sort of, you already sort of touched on it. You're sitting and nailed it, Jeremy. You're on fire at this point. ⁓ I had, do you think they lifted the timing, the foresight, seeing things in advance from Sherlock Holmes, which came out in 2009. So you had it too, when, ⁓ Robbie Downey Jr is sort of going, all right, I'm to kick this guy in the leg and I'm going to break this guy's arm. I'm to do this. And it's like Denzel's kind of doing the same thing. Like, you know, 16 seconds, I'm to do this. I'm going do that. I'm going to do that. So. Yeah, my theory question to you was do you think that they lifted it from Sherlock Holmes? But it goes into what we talked about earlier, where they take the best of other things.
Jez: yeah yeah and uh... nice one because when i was explained that to you earlier you're looking at me like i was like i don't think you've seen Sherlock Holmes okay so the dom teretto uh... what's the life lessons from this movie so i had shoot first ask questions later so too many times people pulled a gun on robert and waited too long so he could take them down just shoot him guys
Bradley Inder: No, no, no, I'm looking at you going like, son of a bitch, you just stole on my theory corner. Ha ha ha! That's good, that's good. had, don't fuck with strangers, you never know which one can kill you in 15 seconds or less.
Jez: I forgot to mention actually in my favorite scene and I like that one Brad thanks for sharing. When the Andre is pointing the gun at him and he does like the switch thing and then you know how he gets it off him and can spin it around and pointing at him. That's cool. That was cool. I was like that's so awesome. Airing of grievances. I got a lot of problems with you people. Brad.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was super cool. I remember that saying that was super cool. Okay, I had three. So I had the dude, I think it's his name, Ralphie, the dude quit his job, then gets rehired instantly. But he's hired as a security guard and it feels like it's like day one or two of his job. And then ⁓ the lady gets robbed, Jenny gets robbed. So he's like the worst employee ever. ⁓
Jez: Yeah, right. Maybe he was in on it.
Bradley Inder: No, I had I had also for a for a Boston movie. There was highly any Boston accents so Like this movie is set in Boston and the only one that came close to the Boston accent was the crooked cop But nobody else nobody else had a Boston accent and then you touched on it earlier before ⁓ I'm not a detective ⁓ But even I could piece this one together if there's a murder at the cafe that Robert goes to and there's executions
Jez: Yeah, masters.
Bradley Inder: at the place Robert works at, the only person that frequents both of those places is Robert. So he should, should he not be brought in for questioning? like, you they're usually pieces together on, you know, probabilities and likelihoods and things like that. So I'm like, man, ⁓ he can't flying under the radar that long.
Jez: What about how he returns the sledgehammer after he gets the money back from the robber? It's like this DNA all over that some poor guy is going to buy a sledgehammer and then get like get done for frigging jail time.
Bradley Inder: Imagine that the next time you get a bunnies you pick up a hammer and the wake lady getting arrested for homicide. ⁓ my God.
Jez: Yeah, yeah. So I had, ⁓ is master's really giving up his safety deposit box to Robert? Like, like you've screwed him over so much. I'd be like, no, man, I'm not giving you that.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, he needs that when he's in jail.
Jez: do you think robert kills the main ⁓ or do you think so on that do you think ⁓ by giving it up he then is going to think that robert's going to kill the russian mafia guys then maybe they won't come for masters because there's too much toil going on i don't know but it's three days later so i feel he's already dead so i don't know ⁓
Bradley Inder: Yeah, that's that yeah, you're right. Yeah Yeah.
Jez: Another one, so what I was talking about, know, when Denzel takes the gun off Andre in the money, when they break up the cartel and then the butchery money slaughterhouse, are all the other Russian dudes really letting Andre like, are you sure they're not going to let Andre get killed so they can both just kill Masters and Robert to save their own bacon? Yeah. When he's like, when he's like, oh, you've told them to put down the guns. I'm like, ah.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's like 20 of them there. It's not like it's just a couple of guys.
Jez: Maybe like if I was one of those Russian henchmen, I'd be like, ⁓ yeah, that's okay on Joe, but now I'm in charge. Bang, bang, bang, bang. ⁓ catching a bus to save his mates. Like, come on Denzel, you gotta get new, you gotta get new, but you gotta get new, but yeah. And then another one. So not a doctor, but Ralphie is shot in the hamstring and then he's still jogging around the store, like turning on sprinklers, turning on the lights.
Bradley Inder: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right. Get rid of ties.
Jez: If I'm Ralphie, I'm in pain on the ground. Like, ⁓ my God. Like if I'm shutting the hamstring, I don't know. I don't know if I'm being, you know, he's like, can you still walk? Yeah. I don't know if I still can.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, yeah, you're right. Yeah, he got shot in the leg and then he's doing a run up like the power box and stuff. I'm like, nah.
Jez: Yeah and I didn't didn't quite get why Teddy was ⁓ stalking him. I'm like go after Robert yeah go after Robert like so letter box rating I gave this a four everyone loves an elderly hero
Bradley Inder: Yeah, just kill him and then, yeah, yeah. Kill him and then go to Robert, 100%. Nice. I also gave this four stars as well and I said above equal movie.
Jez: Okay, good one. Re-watchability factor. So I enjoyed watching. I think I enjoyed watching this the second time even more just this week. I really did enjoy it. And what am I pairing it with? I'm pairing it with John Wick. So both 2014 and they're both awesome in different ways. Or same same but different.
Bradley Inder: Yeah, nice. Nice, nice. ⁓ Yeah, I really enjoyed it and I really enjoyed watching it the second time, probably more so than the first time, only because I knew it and then I started to look for all those little nuances and things like that. So ⁓ I probably will watch the next one too, like Equalizer 2, based purely on how good this one was. ⁓ If I was pairing it, I had Unbreakable if you wanted that vigilante justice, ⁓ or if you wanted that Denzel justice revenge kind of angle, then I'd probably go on fire I've got a few vibes from that movie as well
Jez: So good. When he puts the bomb up the guy's butt. So good.
Bradley Inder: That's great. ⁓
Jez: Mailbox? Do we have any mailbox this week?
Bradley Inder: We had a shout out from Ben Stocco who said he was enjoying the pod. he messaged me but I didn't see the message until heaps late and I'm so sorry about that mate but we appreciate your lovely comments so thanks so much.
Jez: Love you, Stokoe. Well, that's going to do us for another episode of In the Mood for a Movie. Thank you all for hanging out with us as always, and we hope you've enjoyed it. ⁓ Next pod is very special. It's our 10th episode. Look out on our socials and you'll see what movie we will be tackling.
Bradley Inder: Thank you so much everyone. Good, choice, Josiah. Love it, mate.
Jez: Cheers.
