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He's Scott Dixon, IndyCard champion.
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He retweeted me.
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I just said something about because you know, we've been talking about AI, data, simulations, how it affects F1.
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And we're not, we haven't figured it out yet.
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Nobody's figured it out yet.
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I mean, we want we want the technology to know that someone won qualifying, let's say, or a race by like a hundredth of a second, something you can't see.
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But but we don't want these weird var lines, whatever they're called in soccer, where it's like, you know, we don't need that.
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You know, it looked like the guy wasn't offsides or was offsides.
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Let's just go with that.
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We haven't figured that out.
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Anyway, I I think uh he must have liked or disliked whatever I said that he that he tried to get a bigger audience for it.
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So I was I was pleased about that.
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Less of a big deal, except for the ladies, for the ladies of the 90s, was um uh Antonio Sabato Jr., I think tweeted something of mine.
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And and you would not know him, probably.
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But in the 90s, he was like in general hospital, like all the ladies love this guy.
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I tell you, I'm sure he's still good looking and doing well, but uh I just thought that was funny.
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All right, you ready to go, son?
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I'm ready to go.
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Hello, welcome to our town pound in here and take it up one to one.
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Just finished up with Belgian Grand Prix.
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One of the oldest courses in F1, as far as the race goes, uh some good, some bad.
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A lot of it we couldn't see because for whatever reason, F1 TV, skysports, they're determined not to show us anything going on track unless it's like the first two, three, four cars.
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Okay, Patrick, who gets the flowers for the Belgian Grand Prix?
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Yeah, I gotta, I gotta say maybe it can happen in later discussion.
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But yeah, you're right.
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It is kind of annoying constantly being forced to only watch the top four drivers, you know, going around.
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There's a lot of other cool things happening.
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There is a lot of other battles going on.
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I mean, I'm loving racing bulls battles, those are just crazy and fun.
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Most fun team, I think.
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Tons of fun things going on, I think, throughout the weekend.
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And, you know, after a few races off or off the top of the podium and having some kind of bad luck issues, I think Flowers gotta go to Kimmy this week.
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I mean, yeah, kid got another win, was fastest the whole weekend, outqualified his teammate, obviously, but even outqualified kind of a surging max and Lando and Charles, all of them had, I think, on any other day, they would have thought, oh, that's polled.
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But Kimmy outqualified him by like three tenths or something like that.
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Kind of insane.
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And then he just kind of went on and he didn't blow away the field, but he was you were convinced he was gonna win.
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Yeah, it was gonna take a lot.
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After turn four, basically.
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Uh, once he got past max again.
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Well, and later, like after that virtual safety car, which we'll never know why, uh, because what goes on track, what happens on track, stays on track.
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F1 TV's guy doesn't want to let us know what's happening elsewhere, but yeah, it was pretty tough for it was gonna be a tough one for Kimmy to lose.
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Yeah, but I thought he did great.
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I thought a lot of those other drivers in the top, you know, 5'6 did really well.
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LeClaire, we were kind of, I don't want to say bad mouthing him, but but kind of being real about how he was doing throughout the season.
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And then last two races, that's a win and close to another win, but P2.
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I mean, looks like he's back on track in that Ferrari.
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I mean, we've said this should be his team, not Lewis's, and Lewis is looking like it's his team.
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But the last couple weeks, Charles was put up a fight.
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Yeah, so that's good to see.
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And then, you know, even Max is grumpy, and I think he's gonna stay grumpy for the rest of the season, maybe the rest of his career.
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I don't really know.
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But, you know, even a grumpy Max got a lot out of that Red Bull and looked pretty good.
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So I think, you know, we have a lot of good stuff to watch the front, but that doesn't, you know, dismiss a lot of the other good stuff that happens further back.
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Yeah, with northern Europeans, you can never tell.
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I mean, he could be a winsome fellow for all we know.
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He could be joyous, you know, but he's northern European, so I can never tell if he really is a grown beer.
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If he's having a good day, it's always hard to tell.
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This was a unique race, and you know, it's always hard to predict the future.
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But I'm not sure we saw this one coming because this race was heavily decided by battery power and software glitches.
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You know, in the old days, that that was not a thing.
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But in F1 in 2026, software glitches and battery power, you know, this is the you know, like what am I watching?
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Watching an iPhone, you know.
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But now the other big story was I mean, this is the revenge of the youth.
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You know, you talked about this before where outside of Lewis, who's pretty amazing, these new guys, it's the younger guys that seem to have, despite all the complaining from Max, Carlos Sainz, some of the old guys, a lot of old fans, these younger drivers, it's like, oh, there's software, there's battery, I gotta manage.
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There's there's the um how I drive in the straights with my battery, how I'm connected to my team, all the stuff that's going on.
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They seem less phase light.
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They're they're adapting well.
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Yeah, I mean, they they all look pretty darn good for the most part.
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I think they're getting the hang of it, and just seems more kind of comfortable and easy for them.
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I mean, Kimmy for one is just beating George at every turn.
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I'm not sure exactly what's going on with George, why he's struggling so much, but definitely Kimmy coming into this season, nobody really expected him to be where he is right now.
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And and I think it's just because he seems quicker to and maybe more willing to kind of adapt to this new driving style and what you have to do.
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But that's sort of similar across the board with with young teammates, right?
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Bordoletto is clearly outperforming Hulkenberg in that Audi, and he just seems more comfortable overall.
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Yep.
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Cola Pinto even has seemed to be over the last several races a lot more comfortable than Gasly.
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Gasly doesn't look totally out of it, but it just seems to be sort of the way that things are going.
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Behrman, you know, looks looks better than Ocon does.
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It could be a number of things, but the most sort of obvious of those seems to be the fact that, yeah, they're just more willing to adapt and and maybe quicker to adapt to these sort of new cars and the way they have to drive.
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So right.
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Even Hedger, I mean, he had a hell of a race.
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And no, he's not equal Max or better, but Max usually destroys his teammates, and Hedgeh's hanging, and he has been.
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So I think I think there's something to this theory of of ours, but it's like these are sort of software-baked cars, they're battery power, they're deeply connected with their engineers, with their team, and the younger guys intuit this better, adapt to it faster.
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So, you know, you talked about Kimmy and George though.
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I don't think there's any sabotage, but is there sabotage?
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I mean, Kimmy does look better, but it also seems like Toto favors him, it seems.
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And it seems like he has the better car.
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Reliability issues, it's you know, we're 10 races in, that's that's still a small sample.
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But dang, you look at the data.
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It looks like on the streets, Kimmy's car is faster than George's.
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Yeah, I don't that does seem weird.
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I think they need to kind of figure out what the heck is going on there, why George is so slow, because he does seem much slower on the straights.
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I don't know if it's exclusively due to kind of their deployment strategies, you know, battery-powered deployment strategies, because obviously that is gonna play a major factor in how fast you can go down those straights.
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But George got swallowed up out of the gates by you know everybody else.
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And Kimmy kind of played it safe and smart, it seemed like, at the start of this race, and Max was able to get around him, and then immediately Antonelli just goes and and passes him because he has more speed.
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George didn't seem like he was able to do that, even if he got swallowed up and passed, there was no way he was coming back.
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So he tried a late lunge and cost himself a shot at finishing the race at all.
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Yeah.
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18 to 25 points, probably.
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Yeah.
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You you you ever wonder like, is it because he's so much bigger than Kimmy?
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Is there a tenth of a second on the street for that?
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I don't know.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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I mean, they do have to all be all the cars have to be within, you know, weight specs.
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So it's weird.
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I don't know why they would have an issue.
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It seems like it stemmed from or has been known for quite a bit of time at this point that he has this this issue.
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So it seems weird that they haven't resolved it yet, if it's something that they can resolve.
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So it's a little confusing, unclear.
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Could be sabotage.
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It would be good if it was sabotage.
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It would be fun.
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I think we need we need a little we do, we do.
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F1's too corporate, you know.
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It's like it's like it's like something, you know, it's like working at Google or Apple.
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It's a software-based company.
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If Kimmy turns out to be Tanya Harding, I mean, look, I'd be okay with that.
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So funny.
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Funny.
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I mean, and Kimmy, but damn though, he's got what is it, six?
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I mean, months ago I was I said, crazy prediction, he's gonna get to 10 before before Oscar, before Charles?
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And I mean, he's he's edging closer.
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I I should have put some big money down on that bet.
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I don't know if such a bet existed, but LeClaire, because he got his ninth last race out.
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A little a little touch and go.
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Oscar doesn't uh McLaren doesn't seem likely.
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Yeah.
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If if McLaren wins, it seems more like it's coming from Lando.
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He just seems to be faster generally.
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Unfortunately, you know, he had to take a big old grid penalty for his new power unit in this race, but he looked pretty quick in this race, and Oscar just was sort of meandering along, as McLaren has done all season, it seems like.
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I mean, really, since about this time last year was when Lando sort of started asserting himself in the McLaren team, and he hasn't looked back.
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Oscar's been struggling a bit, but the whole McLaren team this year, it's just been odd the way they've sort of flailed around.
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What did you think of the um we talked about the start, we talked about George getting swallowed up, but Lewis got a penalty, Charles did not.
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Now, I thought the stewards were right in getting Lewis.
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Lewis is a dick.
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Nobody is nobody's better at this than getting the elbows out, knocking the guy out without just on the ass.
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Like, oh, is that a racing incident or not?
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Nobody is better at that than Lewis Hamilton.
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Even though like I always feel like there should be much more leniency in lap one and that sort of crowd right after the start.
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But I don't know.
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There there seemed to be a mild controversy that Lewis got a penalty and later on Charles did not.
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Yeah, I I don't know about controversy, but I don't think either one of them should have been penalized.
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I don't know.
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I think people are really a little too worried about, I shouldn't say they're too worried about any kind of contact, but like you got 22 cars on a track, yeah, sometimes you're gonna run out of room.
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Right.
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Right.
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And you're gonna touch.
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And sometimes it sends a car flying, sometimes it doesn't.
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I don't know.
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But I don't think it I don't think either one was malicious.
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And I don't think that like when I watched Lewis, I immediately thought, oh, there's no chance he gets a penalty because he was well ahead of George at the turn.
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He was breaking well before George to make the turn, and at no point did he ever open up the steering wheel.
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He was always turning to the right, and George came across and collided.
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I think unfortunately for George that ended his race, but I don't think Lewis really did anything wrong.
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He didn't back out, but I don't think like he made the corner.
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Like, why would he back out?
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I do want to say though, I think it'd go either way.
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The Stewart could say the penalty or not.
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I like the fact that Stewart's penalize in real time rather than three weeks later after the race.
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And I don't think Lewis is malicious, it's it's just he's hyper competitive.
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These guys are hyper competitive.
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It's like, you know, there's a World Cup going on.
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Someone rushes in and kind of trips the guy.
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It's not like, hey, you know, I don't like you or your mother.
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It's like, hey, I'm gonna take you out because I can't.
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I I think I have a chance to take you out.
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Why wouldn't I?
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Um so that's kind of you know what I thought.
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I mean, I think that's fair.
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It seemed to me like they only punished Lewis because of the outcome, like because George was stranded essentially in gravel afterwards, but I don't think it was really that bad.
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It was just like high speed and you touch and you're going around a turn, like you're just spinning off into nowhere.
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Yeah, I know Will Buxton, who's now does indie, he was one of those that was sort of saying Lewis gets five-second penalty because of the outcome, which is George is out of the race rather than the act.
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So which is glib.
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Yeah, I thought both both of those incidents, the one with Charles and with Lewis, I wouldn't have punished them.
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I think, you know, both of them were just kind of going into a corner and somebody was trying to go around the outside, and I think they both had the corner.
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Maybe it was a little, what's a good word?
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Devious, but like not malicious.
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And if they have the corner and the inside, well then the guy going around the outside, like back the fuck out.
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Oscar didn't do that, and and George didn't do that.
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Luckily for Oscar, all he got was you know a little side pod damage or whatever it was, part of the floor or something.
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Unfortunately for George, he went off.
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I think that's actually on those two drivers for causing those outcomes.
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Quick look at the standings.
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Kimmy still up front, 204 points.
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Lewis now back in P2 at 159.
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So what is that?
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45 behind.
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George 154.
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I mean, we expect George to be winning in P1, but he's in fact only five points out of P2.
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When you consider, I mean, his car has had what at least one reliability we didn't finish.
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Yeah, mechanical failure.
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We've gotten zero points this race.
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The fact that he's only five behind Lewis, I think, shows just how dominant the Mercedes car is.
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Then you have Charles, 126.
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He's a bit further back, but as we said, he's had a couple good weeks in a row.
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Landle at 103.
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His team got on script 92.
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Max right behind him, though.
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91, not bad.
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Nonetheless, George even, I don't know, we've done 10 races.
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So the schedule has 12 remaining.
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I am convinced those final two in the Middle East will not happen.
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That means 10 races remaining.
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I don't know.
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Time is running out, don't you think, for George Russell?
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I think it is.
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Yeah.
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The clock has not struck midnight yet, but it's getting there.
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He's gotta have a turnaround like Lando had last year, I think.
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You know, at this point.
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It is hard to see Kimmy coming in anything other than at worst second.
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If he finishes a race, you know, 10 races, so we say.
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50 points, you know, that's seven a race or whatever if George is P1, so he makes it up.
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But that's that's tough when you're racing your teammate and it hasn't looked like you could handle them the entire season so far.
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It's gonna be a hard turnaround for George to make up, I think.
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No, it's a good point.
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Team standings, Mercedes dominant 358, Ferrari 285, McLaren 195, Red Bull 151 in the steep drop off.
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Alpine and Racing Bulls tied at 61.
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Nice.
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That Ford power unit, first year, Red Bull Ford.
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Red Bull looks good.
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Racing Bulls looks good.
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I think that's impressive.
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I also think Mercedes appears to be the best, but this is not the dominant Mercedes of the 2010s, where you never saw them.
00:19:04.079 --> 00:19:06.640
They took off from the front row, and that was it.
00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:08.319
This race was over.
00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:17.440
I mean, we now have, as we've talked about for years now, Formula One is trying to adopt the NFL playbook of sort of creating parody.
00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:18.720
There's four.
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And if there's a safety car, potentially six teams that could win a race.
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I'm not saying finish, you know, win win the constructors.
00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:33.519
That's almost certainly Mercedes, potentially Ferrari.
00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:45.519
But you've got any race, Mercedes, Ferrari, McLaren, and maybe Red Bull could win a race, especially with Max.
00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:50.240
But then, you know, Alpina Racing Bowls, you have some rain, you have a safety car.
00:19:50.880 --> 00:19:54.640
That's six teams when before it was basically one team.
00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:59.599
And maybe uh uh some crazy incident, Ferrari would slip in there.
00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:01.359
Yeah, I mean, it's true.
00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:07.759
I think it's been a lot more interesting to see these results and the overall parody, right?
00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:16.960
Where yes, Mercedes is the best car on the grid, even with the reliability issues.
00:20:17.279 --> 00:20:25.440
But when they win races, like you said, it's not by the 25 seconds, the 45 seconds.
00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:30.079
Only four drivers didn't get lapped in this race, kind of thing, right?
00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:35.039
I think Kimmy beat Charles by what two seconds this week.
00:20:35.200 --> 00:20:40.880
I mean, they're not far off, the rest of these teams over, you know, 44 laps.
00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:45.359
That's like a three and a half mile track or something like that, right?
00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:48.720
So that's a long, that's a long distance.
00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:52.240
You came up two seconds behind them.
00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:54.559
I mean, that's you're pretty close.
00:20:54.799 --> 00:20:55.440
Yeah.
00:20:55.839 --> 00:20:57.440
American team standings.
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I'm claiming these is American teams, Red Bull and P4, Racing Bulls, P5, tied for P5, Haas, P7, Cadillac, P11.
00:21:09.119 --> 00:21:11.839
But it's their first year in the bullshit, by the way.
00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:16.559
Should be P10, Aston should be P11, but oh no.
00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:24.720
Chucko, you get a penalty four weeks after it happened, and Alonzo gets promoted, whatever.
00:21:24.880 --> 00:21:26.000
It's dumb.
00:21:46.799 --> 00:21:49.200
Can you hear the drums, ADU O?
00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:53.599
I mean, ADUO is so great in theory.
00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:59.759
The whole point is just part of this drive by Formula One, liberty, media, the ownership.
00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:06.880
To sort of create parity to make races where multiple teams can win, multiple drivers can win.
00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:08.079
I love it.
00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:18.799
And as you said, I mean, look, Mercedes, Kimmy, but just I mean, two seconds is a lot, but you know, 2016, Lewis was probably beating Ferrari by 20 seconds or something.
00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:25.039
Crazy, you know, a second, it seemed like a second a lap on some of those races, you know.
00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:26.799
That was crazy.
00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:31.279
So I love this drive to sort of enforce parody onto the sport.
00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:40.640
I love the concept of ADUO, but man, you know, they they kind of messed it up in execution because, you know, I mean, we saw this race.
00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:45.279
Max was going all out, and Kimmy just boom, you know, it's like, sorry.
00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:55.519
But yet, according to F1 and ADUO, oh, Mercedes gets extra money to spend to upgrade their to upgrade their power unit because Red Bulls is faster.
00:22:55.680 --> 00:22:59.599
And next year they get this too, because it's sort of the way the rules are baked in.
00:22:59.920 --> 00:23:04.960
Mercedes will have a bit more money to spend for our bit more money because, oh, Red Bull's faster.
00:23:05.039 --> 00:23:06.640
I mean, this is bullshit.
00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:08.160
They messed it up.
00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:11.920
And I'm not sure how you fix this, you know, but I don't know.
00:23:12.079 --> 00:23:13.279
Christian Horner would know.
00:23:13.359 --> 00:23:17.119
They got rid of Christian Horner, and he would never have allowed this to happen.
00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:22.000
Where Mercedes is clearly a faster car, but it's like, oh no, no.
00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:27.119
Mercedes gets more money to spend than you, Red Bull, because we've determined your power unit is faster.
00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:33.839
Yeah, and I mean it's not even like the power unit, and it's not even faster, right?
00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:46.319
It's just the engine's peak operating conditions are a little bit higher in the Ford than the Mercedes, right?
00:23:46.640 --> 00:23:54.960
And so it's just like, yeah, it's just a weird, it's just a weird thing that's like you didn't really think about it, right?
00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:59.279
And think about how it would actually impact anything.
00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:09.039
It's like doing everything in a lab and you've never been in the real world before, and then turns out that thing you made in the lab isn't usable at all in the real world.
00:24:09.599 --> 00:24:11.359
This is kind of the same thing.
00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:12.799
And I I don't know.
00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:26.480
It's I get it, it's frustrating because you don't want Mercedes to just, oh, they get more resources for development, and they're already ahead, so now they're gonna get more ahead.
00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:28.720
That would be going backwards, right?
00:24:28.880 --> 00:24:30.400
So which is gonna happen.
00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:32.640
And I shouldn't say power unit, but that's just shorthand.
00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:33.200
You're right.
00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:36.400
It's in the their test of the engine.
00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:46.559
Oh, look, under these conditions, oh look, Red Bulls is faster, but this has nothing to do with aerodynamics with chassis, power unit overall, reliability, none of that.
00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:48.400
And all of those matter.
00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:50.640
Yeah, I mean, all of it matters.
00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:57.119
I think, you know, if you're gonna do these things by component, I think they should do it for every component.
00:24:57.359 --> 00:25:25.359
Do some kind of objective testing and settle on all these different metrics for each component and say, okay, well, here's here's the best team at this component, and here's how much extra you get to develop for, you know, each of these things, whether it's your chassis, your battery, your suspension, you know, arrow components, all this stuff.
00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:36.799
At least, you know, allow some teams to have a little bit extra for development of of other things, you know, that can help as well.
00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:37.839
I don't know.
00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:05.039
The Yost Verstappen problem.
00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:15.359
Now we've done been told you, we've been told you that Yost is a problem, and he's no longer just a problem for Christian Horner or for Red Bull.
00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:18.880
He's a problem for Max Verstappen because where is Max gonna go?
00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:19.519
Right?
00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:34.240
We told you all these rumors, oh Max is gonna go to McLaren, Max is gonna go to Mercedes, Max can't go anywhere because Max is going to demand at least a decent car, a better than average car.
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:35.279
Who has that?
00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:39.920
Mercedes, McLaren, Ferrari, Red Bull.
00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:42.240
Okay, so is he gonna go to Mercedes?
00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:43.039
Will he go to McLaren?
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:44.079
Will he go to Ferrari?
00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:45.680
No, because of Yost.
00:26:46.160 --> 00:26:54.880
I mean, Yo's it look, I Yo's is trying to protect his son, his investment, but they got rid of Helmet, they got rid of Horner, Newy's gone.
00:26:55.279 --> 00:27:04.160
If you notice, these aren't just great F1 mines, they are sort of power centers in Red Bull.
00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:08.319
The owner is dead, Horner's gone, helmet's gone, new is gone.
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:12.240
Basically, that's Max's paddock now, which means Joseph's paddock.
00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:16.640
He's not going anywhere because he will not be able to have that anywhere else.
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:19.839
I agree.
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:28.720
I mean, Max could just sort of decide what he wants to do on his own, but I don't think that's really how he operates.
00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:33.839
So unless Kelly says, get the fuck out of Red Bull, you know.
00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:37.359
I'm pretty sure he's staying there.
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:42.480
And it's certainly something I think that Yost would would push for.
00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:45.920
He he likes being there and being the the big guy.
00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:52.000
I think Mechis just probably leaves him alone and just goes, uh please don't talk to me.
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:54.319
I just don't want to have anything to do with you.
00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:57.200
Um so I don't know.
00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:00.640
It's it's kind of a weird, it's a weird team now.
00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:08.079
And I think it's more of a of a normal team now, except for Yost hanging around.
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:14.000
And so until Max leaves, I think, like leaves F1.
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:18.799
I think he's he's staying in at Red Bull and Yos is staying there too.
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:20.799
I don't expect him to go anywhere else.
00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:22.160
We've had this conversation.
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:28.720
It just there's nowhere he's gonna go where they're gonna find everything that they want.
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:30.480
It's it's a package deal.
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:32.720
You you got Max, you got Yos.
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:35.440
And Max is gonna demand a car.
00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:37.200
That's at a certain level.
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:38.799
Maybe, maybe Aston.
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:43.920
In a couple years, Honda, let's say Honda stays in, new he does it right, boom, maybe.
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:51.359
But right now, there's only three other teams he could go, and those three will not take the package deal.
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:54.240
They'll take the Max deal, but not the package deal with Yos.
00:28:54.720 --> 00:29:02.160
Speaking of packages, you touched earlier on um how we want to see what's happening in the race.
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:07.519
And always what's happening isn't always at the very, very, very, very front of the race.
00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:17.440
I mean, I want to visit your grandfather, and he has cable TV and he's watching Matt Media League Baseball, and on his one screen, there are four games.
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:19.440
You can see all four games.
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:21.279
It's like a little quad box.
00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:25.279
Okay, he didn't do anything, he wouldn't know how to do it.
00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:26.480
That's what they're showing.
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:28.960
Four, and I'm like, why can't I get this in F1?
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:37.920
And I don't want your bullshit the uh listener to oh just use the you know, click through and and get you know onboard from Alonzo or something.
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:42.720
I mean, no, I can't can't I see four different angles at the same time on the same screen?
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:44.240
I got big ass television.
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:48.319
I mean, just just I'm curious what's happening elsewhere.
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:52.799
It's I I just somebody's coverage, and I know that's that's that's easy.
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:59.119
It's easy to go after the coverage, it's easy to go after skysports, it's easy to go after AirPodn TV, but it's legitimate.
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:05.920
Yeah, I think live sports producers that are not American are fucking garbage.
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:21.279
We saw that in the World Cup, you know, uh say what you want, but there's only one feed that all of the broadcasters get a world feed, and those producers are trash.
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:35.200
You miss so much of the action because they're cutting to whoever on the sideline or in stands or whatever, going back to a replay that you've already seen 15 times, and you miss a lot.
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:44.319
And like I get that there are other interesting things maybe outside of the actual action that you could look at.
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:56.000
But look, I'm watching this because I want to see what's happening on the track, everywhere on the track, as much as possible, and so yeah, I'd like to see this.
00:30:56.079 --> 00:31:19.039
I think is why Apple TV needs to really start getting their own stuff together, because it turns out F1 TV kind of is terrible at producing this stuff, and so you know, I don't want to be the big, like dumb American saying, uh, it's all non-Americans, but like most American sporting coverage is pretty good.
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:22.640
You see everything, they talk about everything.
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:36.319
I know it's a little bit more difficult to like track, you know, a five-mile circuit and 22 cars somewhere on that circuit than it is one baseball field.
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:37.119
I get that.
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:42.000
But like, I don't know, it just seems like we could be doing better.
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:48.799
It it does seem like we it minimum quad box and you know a lot more user controls.
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:59.039
But I mean, yeah, Apple's a trillion dollar plus company with technology with screens everywhere, sensors everywhere, cameras everywhere.
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:03.519
Yeah, maybe maybe they'll they'll come up with something because I've been a little disappointed.
00:32:03.759 --> 00:32:11.200
New topic AI and F1, something that we've been talking about, especially over the last couple months.
00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:17.839
And I almost think we need to start documenting these AI encroachments on Formula One and on sports in general.
00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:29.759
But I think you brought this up a few weeks ago where AI, it just sort of continues to encroach on the sport and it gets to these points where you're like, well, okay, I guess that's acceptable, that's acceptable, that's acceptable.
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:41.200
And then suddenly you realize, well, you've removed a lot of human element, and so they're going to have to start putting some sort of enforced human element back into the sport, whether it belongs or not.
00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:51.599
And it's funny because about a week or so ago I heard rumors about, oh, they're thinking, maybe we should add fuel stops, which is completely unnecessary.
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:56.480
It's only to sort of add more human chaos to the action.
00:32:56.799 --> 00:32:58.880
Yeah, that's it's ridiculous, right?
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:17.839
I mean, the only reason that that would make any sense, right, is if you're getting so much faster with less fuel on board that you would take the time to refuel during rate, like what does that trade-off look like in terms of time, right?
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:30.079
And then we need to make sure that that we don't just kind of allow everything to be run by AI and automation and robotics.
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:37.039
You know, there needs to be something, something else that's you know, keeps the sport integrity, right?
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:38.880
And fuel stops is weird.
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:46.319
They do it in in NASCAR still, and those are kind of fun, but they they got rid of it in F1 because there were too many fires.
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:53.839
So they were like, yeah, we're gonna stop doing that because things explode and put fuel and stuff really fast.
00:33:54.319 --> 00:34:21.679
So across the line?
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:24.800
That is our segment where we predict the top five for the next race.
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:27.840
The next race is next week in Hungary.
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:31.440
In across the line, we predict the top five.
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:34.159
If our driver does show up in the top five, we get a point.
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:39.039
If he shows up in the exact spot we selected him, we get three points.
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:42.079
Patch, what are the current standings for across the line?
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:47.760
Okay, well, you have a pretty commanding lead, at least coming into this week.
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:50.239
39 points to my 22.
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:59.280
But top five from this race in Belgium was Antonelli Leclerc Verstappen Hamilton Piastri.
00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:05.840
Your picks were Russell, LeClaire, Hajar, Norris, Kolopinto, P2.
00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:08.239
So you got three points for LeClaire and Pete.
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:15.280
My picks were Antonelli, Hamilton, Verstappen, Piastri, Lawson.
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:16.079
Wow.
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:24.800
So I got three points each for Antonelli and Verstappen in first and third, respectively, and one point each for Hamilton and P.
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:28.639
Astri, both in the top five, not where I selected them.
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:35.519
So that brings you to 42 points to my 30.
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:38.400
So a pretty good chunk in there for me.
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:40.480
Eight is close to a record, I think.
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:42.719
Yeah, no, that's pretty good.
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:50.239
So last year, Hungary, McLaren's 200th win, just to just behind, but well behind Ferrari.
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:51.199
Lando won.
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:55.360
He was that's when he was starting to sort of take command finally.
00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:57.440
It took him half a season.
00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:00.559
But it was Lando, Oscar, then George.
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:01.840
And Alonzo had a good race.
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:05.360
Alonso always seems to do well at Hunkero Ring.
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:06.719
Because this week was biz bore.
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:07.920
I think everybody left him.
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:09.920
I think Botas may have left him.
00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:30.320
Honestly, so Aston being ahead of Cadillac in the constructor standings really just grinds my gears because Cadillac has clearly been the better team, but it was just that weirdness of Monaco that, like, oh yeah, Aston happened into a point.
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:31.920
So I don't know.
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:32.719
Oh well.
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:34.239
At least it was Alonzo.
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:36.239
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:37.280
Let's see.
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:38.639
Pre- Oh, look at this.
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:39.760
I thought this was funny.
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:41.760
It looked in Hungary 2021.
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:45.840
I said, look at this, Mick Schumacher, he belongs in F1.
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:48.960
That that turned out less true.
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:56.000
I also predicted that Toto was gonna, despite what everybody was saying, Toto was gonna keep Botas and George would be stuck at Williams.
00:36:56.159 --> 00:36:58.159
That did not turn out to be true.
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:01.519
All right, Padger, for Hungary 2026.
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:02.480
Who goes first?
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:04.159
You have first pick.
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:05.039
Nice.
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:09.199
Well, I'm going with the revenge of George.
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:11.199
Again, I'm picking George Russell.
00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:12.000
Dang.
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:13.199
George.
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:14.719
We'll see.
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:15.519
I don't know.
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:17.119
I guess I'll take Kimmy then.
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:18.960
I gotta make up points somehow.
00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:21.679
I expect him to bring it again.
00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:24.480
We'll see if he can finish the race.
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:29.039
Then I think I think I'm gonna take Max.
00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:33.599
I think he's he's looked pretty pretty solid.
00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:42.079
So I think, you know, especially in qualifying, Hungary is really one of those qualifying tracks.
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:43.599
So I feel like he'll do it.
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:44.559
P2.
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:45.360
Nice.
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:52.800
Alright, well, I'm gonna take Max's teammate, Hedjar, and Flash year's winner, Lando Norris.
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:53.760
Nice.
00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:57.840
Then I'm gonna go with the two Ferraris.
00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:01.599
I'll take Charles, followed closely by Lewis.
00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:02.480
Alright, then.
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:03.679
So I'm gonna take.
00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:05.199
No one's taking Oscar yet, right?
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:08.079
I'm gonna take Oscar, and I'm going with another Red Bull.
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:09.840
I'm gonna go with Liam Lawson.
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:15.760
Oh, we'll see if he finally gets those upgrades that they gave to Arvin.
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:16.639
Yeah.
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:19.679
Because he looked, I mean, yeah.
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:23.920
Lawson just couldn't hang with Lynnblad because of those upgrades, I think.
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:25.360
But we'll see.
00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:26.400
Should be fun.
00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:33.679
Then I'm gonna take their rival currently in the constructors, and I'm gonna go with Gasly.
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:34.239
Nice.
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So for Hungry 2026, you have Kimmy, Max, Charles Lewis, and Pierre Gasly.
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I have George Russell, Isaac Hadjart, Lando Norris, Oscar Castrian, Leon Lawson.
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Any crazy predictions, Patrick?
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Well, I have a crazy prediction because I'm gonna say uh Aston is bringing, supposedly bringing a bunch of big upgrades soon, maybe by Hungary.
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We're not really sure.
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But I expect them to at least have some pretty drastic upgrades by the end of the summer break, at which point Alonso will get a nice feel for the car.
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And in Madrid later this year, he's just gonna go insane.
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He's gonna just take it to everybody.
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He's gonna pass Lewis round the outside, final lap for a spot on the podium.
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And the Spaniards are going to finally name a turn after Alonso, like it seems every other motherfucker on the grid has something named after him already.
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And Fernando does not, so he's finally gonna get his name on an F1 track.
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He'll be part of the lore now.
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Nice, nice.
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My crazy prediction is similar to your Alonso on the podium atmosphere.
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And mine is a winner in a non-top four team in a non-Ray race.
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So not Mercedes, not McLaren, not Red Bull, not Ferrari.
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And obviously would not be Williams either because they're just too, they're just such garbage.
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I don't even know what Williams.
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They have the same, they've getting Mercedes Power.
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Every Mercedes Power unit is just great.
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And I don't know what they're doing at Williams.
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So a winner at a race, at a non-wet race in of a top, of a non-top four team.
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I've made it more and more confusing.
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I was spot on at the beginning.
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So we're gonna have a winner in a non wet race from a non top four team.
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All right.
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He's Scott Dixon, IndyCard champion.
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He retweeted me.
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I just said something about because you know, we've been talking about AI, data, simulations, how it affects F1.
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And we're not, we haven't figured it out yet.
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Nobody's figured it out yet.
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I mean, we want we want the technology to know that someone won qualifying, let's say, or a race by like a hundredth of a second, something you can't see.
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But but we don't want these weird var lines, whatever they're called in soccer, where it's like, you know, we don't need that.
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You know, it looked like the guy wasn't offsides or was offsides.
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Let's just go with that.
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We haven't figured that out.
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Anyway, I I think uh he must have liked or disliked whatever I said that he that he tried to get a bigger audience for it.
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So I was I was pleased about that.
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Less of a big deal, except for the ladies, for the ladies of the 90s, was um uh Antonio Sabato Jr., I think tweeted something of mine.
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And and you would not know him, probably.
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But in the 90s, he was like in general hospital, like all the ladies love this guy.
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I tell you, I'm sure he's still good looking and doing well, but uh I just thought that was funny.
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All right, you ready to go, son?
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I'm ready to go.
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Hello, welcome to our town pound in here and take it up one to one.
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Just finished up with Belgian Grand Prix.
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One of the oldest courses in F1, as far as the race goes, uh some good, some bad.
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A lot of it we couldn't see because for whatever reason, F1 TV, skysports, they're determined not to show us anything going on track unless it's like the first two, three, four cars.
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Okay, Patrick, who gets the flowers for the Belgian Grand Prix?
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Yeah, I gotta, I gotta say maybe it can happen in later discussion.
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But yeah, you're right.
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It is kind of annoying constantly being forced to only watch the top four drivers, you know, going around.
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There's a lot of other cool things happening.
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There is a lot of other battles going on.
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I mean, I'm loving racing bulls battles, those are just crazy and fun.
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Most fun team, I think.
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Tons of fun things going on, I think, throughout the weekend.
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And, you know, after a few races off or off the top of the podium and having some kind of bad luck issues, I think Flowers gotta go to Kimmy this week.
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I mean, yeah, kid got another win, was fastest the whole weekend, outqualified his teammate, obviously, but even outqualified kind of a surging max and Lando and Charles, all of them had, I think, on any other day, they would have thought, oh, that's polled.
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But Kimmy outqualified him by like three tenths or something like that.
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Kind of insane.
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And then he just kind of went on and he didn't blow away the field, but he was you were convinced he was gonna win.
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Yeah, it was gonna take a lot.
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After turn four, basically.
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Uh, once he got past max again.
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Well, and later, like after that virtual safety car, which we'll never know why, uh, because what goes on track, what happens on track, stays on track.
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F1 TV's guy doesn't want to let us know what's happening elsewhere, but yeah, it was pretty tough for it was gonna be a tough one for Kimmy to lose.
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Yeah, but I thought he did great.
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I thought a lot of those other drivers in the top, you know, 5'6 did really well.
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LeClaire, we were kind of, I don't want to say bad mouthing him, but but kind of being real about how he was doing throughout the season.
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And then last two races, that's a win and close to another win, but P2.
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I mean, looks like he's back on track in that Ferrari.
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I mean, we've said this should be his team, not Lewis's, and Lewis is looking like it's his team.
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But the last couple weeks, Charles was put up a fight.
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Yeah, so that's good to see.
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And then, you know, even Max is grumpy, and I think he's gonna stay grumpy for the rest of the season, maybe the rest of his career.
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I don't really know.
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But, you know, even a grumpy Max got a lot out of that Red Bull and looked pretty good.
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So I think, you know, we have a lot of good stuff to watch the front, but that doesn't, you know, dismiss a lot of the other good stuff that happens further back.
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Yeah, with northern Europeans, you can never tell.
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I mean, he could be a winsome fellow for all we know.
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He could be joyous, you know, but he's northern European, so I can never tell if he really is a grown beer.
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If he's having a good day, it's always hard to tell.
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This was a unique race, and you know, it's always hard to predict the future.
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But I'm not sure we saw this one coming because this race was heavily decided by battery power and software glitches.
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You know, in the old days, that that was not a thing.
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But in F1 in 2026, software glitches and battery power, you know, this is the you know, like what am I watching?
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Watching an iPhone, you know.
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But now the other big story was I mean, this is the revenge of the youth.
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You know, you talked about this before where outside of Lewis, who's pretty amazing, these new guys, it's the younger guys that seem to have, despite all the complaining from Max, Carlos Sainz, some of the old guys, a lot of old fans, these younger drivers, it's like, oh, there's software, there's battery, I gotta manage.
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There's there's the um how I drive in the straights with my battery, how I'm connected to my team, all the stuff that's going on.
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They seem less phase light.
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They're they're adapting well.
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Yeah, I mean, they they all look pretty darn good for the most part.
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I think they're getting the hang of it, and just seems more kind of comfortable and easy for them.
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I mean, Kimmy for one is just beating George at every turn.
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I'm not sure exactly what's going on with George, why he's struggling so much, but definitely Kimmy coming into this season, nobody really expected him to be where he is right now.
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And and I think it's just because he seems quicker to and maybe more willing to kind of adapt to this new driving style and what you have to do.
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But that's sort of similar across the board with with young teammates, right?
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Bordoletto is clearly outperforming Hulkenberg in that Audi, and he just seems more comfortable overall.
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Yep.
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Cola Pinto even has seemed to be over the last several races a lot more comfortable than Gasly.
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Gasly doesn't look totally out of it, but it just seems to be sort of the way that things are going.
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Behrman, you know, looks looks better than Ocon does.
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It could be a number of things, but the most sort of obvious of those seems to be the fact that, yeah, they're just more willing to adapt and and maybe quicker to adapt to these sort of new cars and the way they have to drive.
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So right.
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Even Hedger, I mean, he had a hell of a race.
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And no, he's not equal Max or better, but Max usually destroys his teammates, and Hedgeh's hanging, and he has been.
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So I think I think there's something to this theory of of ours, but it's like these are sort of software-baked cars, they're battery power, they're deeply connected with their engineers, with their team, and the younger guys intuit this better, adapt to it faster.
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So, you know, you talked about Kimmy and George though.
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I don't think there's any sabotage, but is there sabotage?
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I mean, Kimmy does look better, but it also seems like Toto favors him, it seems.
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And it seems like he has the better car.
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Reliability issues, it's you know, we're 10 races in, that's that's still a small sample.
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But dang, you look at the data.
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It looks like on the streets, Kimmy's car is faster than George's.
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Yeah, I don't that does seem weird.
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I think they need to kind of figure out what the heck is going on there, why George is so slow, because he does seem much slower on the straights.
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I don't know if it's exclusively due to kind of their deployment strategies, you know, battery-powered deployment strategies, because obviously that is gonna play a major factor in how fast you can go down those straights.
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But George got swallowed up out of the gates by you know everybody else.
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And Kimmy kind of played it safe and smart, it seemed like, at the start of this race, and Max was able to get around him, and then immediately Antonelli just goes and and passes him because he has more speed.
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George didn't seem like he was able to do that, even if he got swallowed up and passed, there was no way he was coming back.
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So he tried a late lunge and cost himself a shot at finishing the race at all.
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Yeah.
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18 to 25 points, probably.
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Yeah.
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You you you ever wonder like, is it because he's so much bigger than Kimmy?
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Is there a tenth of a second on the street for that?
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I don't know.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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I mean, they do have to all be all the cars have to be within, you know, weight specs.
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So it's weird.
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I don't know why they would have an issue.
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It seems like it stemmed from or has been known for quite a bit of time at this point that he has this this issue.
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So it seems weird that they haven't resolved it yet, if it's something that they can resolve.
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So it's a little confusing, unclear.
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Could be sabotage.
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It would be good if it was sabotage.
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It would be fun.
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I think we need we need a little we do, we do.
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F1's too corporate, you know.
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It's like it's like it's like something, you know, it's like working at Google or Apple.
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It's a software-based company.
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If Kimmy turns out to be Tanya Harding, I mean, look, I'd be okay with that.
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So funny.
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Funny.
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I mean, and Kimmy, but damn though, he's got what is it, six?
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I mean, months ago I was I said, crazy prediction, he's gonna get to 10 before before Oscar, before Charles?
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And I mean, he's he's edging closer.
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I I should have put some big money down on that bet.
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I don't know if such a bet existed, but LeClaire, because he got his ninth last race out.
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A little a little touch and go.
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Oscar doesn't uh McLaren doesn't seem likely.
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Yeah.
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If if McLaren wins, it seems more like it's coming from Lando.
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He just seems to be faster generally.
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Unfortunately, you know, he had to take a big old grid penalty for his new power unit in this race, but he looked pretty quick in this race, and Oscar just was sort of meandering along, as McLaren has done all season, it seems like.
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I mean, really, since about this time last year was when Lando sort of started asserting himself in the McLaren team, and he hasn't looked back.
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Oscar's been struggling a bit, but the whole McLaren team this year, it's just been odd the way they've sort of flailed around.
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What did you think of the um we talked about the start, we talked about George getting swallowed up, but Lewis got a penalty, Charles did not.
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Now, I thought the stewards were right in getting Lewis.
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Lewis is a dick.
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Nobody is nobody's better at this than getting the elbows out, knocking the guy out without just on the ass.
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Like, oh, is that a racing incident or not?
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Nobody is better at that than Lewis Hamilton.
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Even though like I always feel like there should be much more leniency in lap one and that sort of crowd right after the start.
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But I don't know.
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There there seemed to be a mild controversy that Lewis got a penalty and later on Charles did not.
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Yeah, I I don't know about controversy, but I don't think either one of them should have been penalized.
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I don't know.
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I think people are really a little too worried about, I shouldn't say they're too worried about any kind of contact, but like you got 22 cars on a track, yeah, sometimes you're gonna run out of room.
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Right.
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Right.
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And you're gonna touch.
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And sometimes it sends a car flying, sometimes it doesn't.
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I don't know.
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But I don't think it I don't think either one was malicious.
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And I don't think that like when I watched Lewis, I immediately thought, oh, there's no chance he gets a penalty because he was well ahead of George at the turn.
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He was breaking well before George to make the turn, and at no point did he ever open up the steering wheel.
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He was always turning to the right, and George came across and collided.
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I think unfortunately for George that ended his race, but I don't think Lewis really did anything wrong.
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He didn't back out, but I don't think like he made the corner.
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Like, why would he back out?
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I do want to say though, I think it'd go either way.
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The Stewart could say the penalty or not.
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I like the fact that Stewart's penalize in real time rather than three weeks later after the race.
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And I don't think Lewis is malicious, it's it's just he's hyper competitive.
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These guys are hyper competitive.
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It's like, you know, there's a World Cup going on.
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Someone rushes in and kind of trips the guy.
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It's not like, hey, you know, I don't like you or your mother.
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It's like, hey, I'm gonna take you out because I can't.
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I I think I have a chance to take you out.
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Why wouldn't I?
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Um so that's kind of you know what I thought.
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I mean, I think that's fair.
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It seemed to me like they only punished Lewis because of the outcome, like because George was stranded essentially in gravel afterwards, but I don't think it was really that bad.
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It was just like high speed and you touch and you're going around a turn, like you're just spinning off into nowhere.
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Yeah, I know Will Buxton, who's now does indie, he was one of those that was sort of saying Lewis gets five-second penalty because of the outcome, which is George is out of the race rather than the act.
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So which is glib.
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Yeah, I thought both both of those incidents, the one with Charles and with Lewis, I wouldn't have punished them.
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I think, you know, both of them were just kind of going into a corner and somebody was trying to go around the outside, and I think they both had the corner.
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Maybe it was a little, what's a good word?
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Devious, but like not malicious.
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And if they have the corner and the inside, well then the guy going around the outside, like back the fuck out.
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Oscar didn't do that, and and George didn't do that.
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Luckily for Oscar, all he got was you know a little side pod damage or whatever it was, part of the floor or something.
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Unfortunately for George, he went off.
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I think that's actually on those two drivers for causing those outcomes.
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Quick look at the standings.
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Kimmy still up front, 204 points.
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Lewis now back in P2 at 159.
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So what is that?
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45 behind.
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George 154.
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I mean, we expect George to be winning in P1, but he's in fact only five points out of P2.
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When you consider, I mean, his car has had what at least one reliability we didn't finish.
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Yeah, mechanical failure.
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We've gotten zero points this race.
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The fact that he's only five behind Lewis, I think, shows just how dominant the Mercedes car is.
00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:12.720
Then you have Charles, 126.
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He's a bit further back, but as we said, he's had a couple good weeks in a row.
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Landle at 103.
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His team got on script 92.
00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:20.960
Max right behind him, though.
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91, not bad.
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Nonetheless, George even, I don't know, we've done 10 races.
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So the schedule has 12 remaining.
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I am convinced those final two in the Middle East will not happen.
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That means 10 races remaining.
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I don't know.
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Time is running out, don't you think, for George Russell?
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I think it is.
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Yeah.
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The clock has not struck midnight yet, but it's getting there.
00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:54.400
He's gotta have a turnaround like Lando had last year, I think.
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You know, at this point.
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It is hard to see Kimmy coming in anything other than at worst second.
00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:10.799
If he finishes a race, you know, 10 races, so we say.
00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:18.480
50 points, you know, that's seven a race or whatever if George is P1, so he makes it up.
00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:27.119
But that's that's tough when you're racing your teammate and it hasn't looked like you could handle them the entire season so far.
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It's gonna be a hard turnaround for George to make up, I think.
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No, it's a good point.
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Team standings, Mercedes dominant 358, Ferrari 285, McLaren 195, Red Bull 151 in the steep drop off.
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Alpine and Racing Bulls tied at 61.
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Nice.
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That Ford power unit, first year, Red Bull Ford.
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Red Bull looks good.
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Racing Bulls looks good.
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I think that's impressive.
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I also think Mercedes appears to be the best, but this is not the dominant Mercedes of the 2010s, where you never saw them.
00:19:04.079 --> 00:19:06.640
They took off from the front row, and that was it.
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This race was over.
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I mean, we now have, as we've talked about for years now, Formula One is trying to adopt the NFL playbook of sort of creating parody.
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There's four.
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And if there's a safety car, potentially six teams that could win a race.
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I'm not saying finish, you know, win win the constructors.
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That's almost certainly Mercedes, potentially Ferrari.
00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:45.519
But you've got any race, Mercedes, Ferrari, McLaren, and maybe Red Bull could win a race, especially with Max.
00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:50.240
But then, you know, Alpina Racing Bowls, you have some rain, you have a safety car.
00:19:50.880 --> 00:19:54.640
That's six teams when before it was basically one team.
00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:59.599
And maybe uh uh some crazy incident, Ferrari would slip in there.
00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:01.359
Yeah, I mean, it's true.
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I think it's been a lot more interesting to see these results and the overall parody, right?
00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:16.960
Where yes, Mercedes is the best car on the grid, even with the reliability issues.
00:20:17.279 --> 00:20:25.440
But when they win races, like you said, it's not by the 25 seconds, the 45 seconds.
00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:30.079
Only four drivers didn't get lapped in this race, kind of thing, right?
00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:35.039
I think Kimmy beat Charles by what two seconds this week.
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I mean, they're not far off, the rest of these teams over, you know, 44 laps.
00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:45.359
That's like a three and a half mile track or something like that, right?
00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:48.720
So that's a long, that's a long distance.
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You came up two seconds behind them.
00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:54.559
I mean, that's you're pretty close.
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Yeah.
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American team standings.
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I'm claiming these is American teams, Red Bull and P4, Racing Bulls, P5, tied for P5, Haas, P7, Cadillac, P11.
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But it's their first year in the bullshit, by the way.
00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:16.559
Should be P10, Aston should be P11, but oh no.
00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:24.720
Chucko, you get a penalty four weeks after it happened, and Alonzo gets promoted, whatever.
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It's dumb.
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Can you hear the drums, ADU O?
00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:53.599
I mean, ADUO is so great in theory.
00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:59.759
The whole point is just part of this drive by Formula One, liberty, media, the ownership.
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To sort of create parity to make races where multiple teams can win, multiple drivers can win.
00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:08.079
I love it.
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And as you said, I mean, look, Mercedes, Kimmy, but just I mean, two seconds is a lot, but you know, 2016, Lewis was probably beating Ferrari by 20 seconds or something.
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Crazy, you know, a second, it seemed like a second a lap on some of those races, you know.
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That was crazy.
00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:31.279
So I love this drive to sort of enforce parody onto the sport.
00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:40.640
I love the concept of ADUO, but man, you know, they they kind of messed it up in execution because, you know, I mean, we saw this race.
00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:45.279
Max was going all out, and Kimmy just boom, you know, it's like, sorry.
00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:55.519
But yet, according to F1 and ADUO, oh, Mercedes gets extra money to spend to upgrade their to upgrade their power unit because Red Bulls is faster.
00:22:55.680 --> 00:22:59.599
And next year they get this too, because it's sort of the way the rules are baked in.
00:22:59.920 --> 00:23:04.960
Mercedes will have a bit more money to spend for our bit more money because, oh, Red Bull's faster.
00:23:05.039 --> 00:23:06.640
I mean, this is bullshit.
00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:08.160
They messed it up.
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And I'm not sure how you fix this, you know, but I don't know.
00:23:12.079 --> 00:23:13.279
Christian Horner would know.
00:23:13.359 --> 00:23:17.119
They got rid of Christian Horner, and he would never have allowed this to happen.
00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:22.000
Where Mercedes is clearly a faster car, but it's like, oh no, no.
00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:27.119
Mercedes gets more money to spend than you, Red Bull, because we've determined your power unit is faster.
00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:33.839
Yeah, and I mean it's not even like the power unit, and it's not even faster, right?
00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:46.319
It's just the engine's peak operating conditions are a little bit higher in the Ford than the Mercedes, right?
00:23:46.640 --> 00:23:54.960
And so it's just like, yeah, it's just a weird, it's just a weird thing that's like you didn't really think about it, right?
00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:59.279
And think about how it would actually impact anything.
00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:09.039
It's like doing everything in a lab and you've never been in the real world before, and then turns out that thing you made in the lab isn't usable at all in the real world.
00:24:09.599 --> 00:24:11.359
This is kind of the same thing.
00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:12.799
And I I don't know.
00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:26.480
It's I get it, it's frustrating because you don't want Mercedes to just, oh, they get more resources for development, and they're already ahead, so now they're gonna get more ahead.
00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:28.720
That would be going backwards, right?
00:24:28.880 --> 00:24:30.400
So which is gonna happen.
00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:32.640
And I shouldn't say power unit, but that's just shorthand.
00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:33.200
You're right.
00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:36.400
It's in the their test of the engine.
00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:46.559
Oh, look, under these conditions, oh look, Red Bulls is faster, but this has nothing to do with aerodynamics with chassis, power unit overall, reliability, none of that.
00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:48.400
And all of those matter.
00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:50.640
Yeah, I mean, all of it matters.
00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:57.119
I think, you know, if you're gonna do these things by component, I think they should do it for every component.
00:24:57.359 --> 00:25:25.359
Do some kind of objective testing and settle on all these different metrics for each component and say, okay, well, here's here's the best team at this component, and here's how much extra you get to develop for, you know, each of these things, whether it's your chassis, your battery, your suspension, you know, arrow components, all this stuff.
00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:36.799
At least, you know, allow some teams to have a little bit extra for development of of other things, you know, that can help as well.
00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:37.839
I don't know.
00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:05.039
The Yost Verstappen problem.
00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:15.359
Now we've done been told you, we've been told you that Yost is a problem, and he's no longer just a problem for Christian Horner or for Red Bull.
00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:18.880
He's a problem for Max Verstappen because where is Max gonna go?
00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:19.519
Right?
00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:34.240
We told you all these rumors, oh Max is gonna go to McLaren, Max is gonna go to Mercedes, Max can't go anywhere because Max is going to demand at least a decent car, a better than average car.
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:35.279
Who has that?
00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:39.920
Mercedes, McLaren, Ferrari, Red Bull.
00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:42.240
Okay, so is he gonna go to Mercedes?
00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:43.039
Will he go to McLaren?
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:44.079
Will he go to Ferrari?
00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:45.680
No, because of Yost.
00:26:46.160 --> 00:26:54.880
I mean, Yo's it look, I Yo's is trying to protect his son, his investment, but they got rid of Helmet, they got rid of Horner, Newy's gone.
00:26:55.279 --> 00:27:04.160
If you notice, these aren't just great F1 mines, they are sort of power centers in Red Bull.
00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:08.319
The owner is dead, Horner's gone, helmet's gone, new is gone.
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:12.240
Basically, that's Max's paddock now, which means Joseph's paddock.
00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:16.640
He's not going anywhere because he will not be able to have that anywhere else.
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:19.839
I agree.
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:28.720
I mean, Max could just sort of decide what he wants to do on his own, but I don't think that's really how he operates.
00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:33.839
So unless Kelly says, get the fuck out of Red Bull, you know.
00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:37.359
I'm pretty sure he's staying there.
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:42.480
And it's certainly something I think that Yost would would push for.
00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:45.920
He he likes being there and being the the big guy.
00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:52.000
I think Mechis just probably leaves him alone and just goes, uh please don't talk to me.
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:54.319
I just don't want to have anything to do with you.
00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:57.200
Um so I don't know.
00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:00.640
It's it's kind of a weird, it's a weird team now.
00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:08.079
And I think it's more of a of a normal team now, except for Yost hanging around.
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:14.000
And so until Max leaves, I think, like leaves F1.
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:18.799
I think he's he's staying in at Red Bull and Yos is staying there too.
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:20.799
I don't expect him to go anywhere else.
00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:22.160
We've had this conversation.
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:28.720
It just there's nowhere he's gonna go where they're gonna find everything that they want.
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:30.480
It's it's a package deal.
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:32.720
You you got Max, you got Yos.
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:35.440
And Max is gonna demand a car.
00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:37.200
That's at a certain level.
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:38.799
Maybe, maybe Aston.
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:43.920
In a couple years, Honda, let's say Honda stays in, new he does it right, boom, maybe.
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:51.359
But right now, there's only three other teams he could go, and those three will not take the package deal.
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:54.240
They'll take the Max deal, but not the package deal with Yos.
00:28:54.720 --> 00:29:02.160
Speaking of packages, you touched earlier on um how we want to see what's happening in the race.
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:07.519
And always what's happening isn't always at the very, very, very, very front of the race.
00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:17.440
I mean, I want to visit your grandfather, and he has cable TV and he's watching Matt Media League Baseball, and on his one screen, there are four games.
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:19.440
You can see all four games.
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:21.279
It's like a little quad box.
00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:25.279
Okay, he didn't do anything, he wouldn't know how to do it.
00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:26.480
That's what they're showing.
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:28.960
Four, and I'm like, why can't I get this in F1?
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:37.920
And I don't want your bullshit the uh listener to oh just use the you know, click through and and get you know onboard from Alonzo or something.
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:42.720
I mean, no, I can't can't I see four different angles at the same time on the same screen?
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:44.240
I got big ass television.
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:48.319
I mean, just just I'm curious what's happening elsewhere.
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:52.799
It's I I just somebody's coverage, and I know that's that's that's easy.
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:59.119
It's easy to go after the coverage, it's easy to go after skysports, it's easy to go after AirPodn TV, but it's legitimate.
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:05.920
Yeah, I think live sports producers that are not American are fucking garbage.
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:21.279
We saw that in the World Cup, you know, uh say what you want, but there's only one feed that all of the broadcasters get a world feed, and those producers are trash.
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:35.200
You miss so much of the action because they're cutting to whoever on the sideline or in stands or whatever, going back to a replay that you've already seen 15 times, and you miss a lot.
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:44.319
And like I get that there are other interesting things maybe outside of the actual action that you could look at.
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:56.000
But look, I'm watching this because I want to see what's happening on the track, everywhere on the track, as much as possible, and so yeah, I'd like to see this.
00:30:56.079 --> 00:31:19.039
I think is why Apple TV needs to really start getting their own stuff together, because it turns out F1 TV kind of is terrible at producing this stuff, and so you know, I don't want to be the big, like dumb American saying, uh, it's all non-Americans, but like most American sporting coverage is pretty good.
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:22.640
You see everything, they talk about everything.
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:36.319
I know it's a little bit more difficult to like track, you know, a five-mile circuit and 22 cars somewhere on that circuit than it is one baseball field.
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:37.119
I get that.
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:42.000
But like, I don't know, it just seems like we could be doing better.
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:48.799
It it does seem like we it minimum quad box and you know a lot more user controls.
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:59.039
But I mean, yeah, Apple's a trillion dollar plus company with technology with screens everywhere, sensors everywhere, cameras everywhere.
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:03.519
Yeah, maybe maybe they'll they'll come up with something because I've been a little disappointed.
00:32:03.759 --> 00:32:11.200
New topic AI and F1, something that we've been talking about, especially over the last couple months.
00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:17.839
And I almost think we need to start documenting these AI encroachments on Formula One and on sports in general.
00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:29.759
But I think you brought this up a few weeks ago where AI, it just sort of continues to encroach on the sport and it gets to these points where you're like, well, okay, I guess that's acceptable, that's acceptable, that's acceptable.
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:41.200
And then suddenly you realize, well, you've removed a lot of human element, and so they're going to have to start putting some sort of enforced human element back into the sport, whether it belongs or not.
00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:51.599
And it's funny because about a week or so ago I heard rumors about, oh, they're thinking, maybe we should add fuel stops, which is completely unnecessary.
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:56.480
It's only to sort of add more human chaos to the action.
00:32:56.799 --> 00:32:58.880
Yeah, that's it's ridiculous, right?
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:17.839
I mean, the only reason that that would make any sense, right, is if you're getting so much faster with less fuel on board that you would take the time to refuel during rate, like what does that trade-off look like in terms of time, right?
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:30.079
And then we need to make sure that that we don't just kind of allow everything to be run by AI and automation and robotics.
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:37.039
You know, there needs to be something, something else that's you know, keeps the sport integrity, right?
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:38.880
And fuel stops is weird.
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:46.319
They do it in in NASCAR still, and those are kind of fun, but they they got rid of it in F1 because there were too many fires.
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:53.839
So they were like, yeah, we're gonna stop doing that because things explode and put fuel and stuff really fast.
00:33:54.319 --> 00:34:21.679
So across the line?
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:24.800
That is our segment where we predict the top five for the next race.
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:27.840
The next race is next week in Hungary.
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:31.440
In across the line, we predict the top five.
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:34.159
If our driver does show up in the top five, we get a point.
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:39.039
If he shows up in the exact spot we selected him, we get three points.
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:42.079
Patch, what are the current standings for across the line?
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:47.760
Okay, well, you have a pretty commanding lead, at least coming into this week.
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:50.239
39 points to my 22.
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:59.280
But top five from this race in Belgium was Antonelli Leclerc Verstappen Hamilton Piastri.
00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:05.840
Your picks were Russell, LeClaire, Hajar, Norris, Kolopinto, P2.
00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:08.239
So you got three points for LeClaire and Pete.
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:15.280
My picks were Antonelli, Hamilton, Verstappen, Piastri, Lawson.
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:16.079
Wow.
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:24.800
So I got three points each for Antonelli and Verstappen in first and third, respectively, and one point each for Hamilton and P.
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:28.639
Astri, both in the top five, not where I selected them.
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:35.519
So that brings you to 42 points to my 30.
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:38.400
So a pretty good chunk in there for me.
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:40.480
Eight is close to a record, I think.
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:42.719
Yeah, no, that's pretty good.
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:50.239
So last year, Hungary, McLaren's 200th win, just to just behind, but well behind Ferrari.
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:51.199
Lando won.
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:55.360
He was that's when he was starting to sort of take command finally.
00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:57.440
It took him half a season.
00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:00.559
But it was Lando, Oscar, then George.
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:01.840
And Alonzo had a good race.
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:05.360
Alonso always seems to do well at Hunkero Ring.
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:06.719
Because this week was biz bore.
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:07.920
I think everybody left him.
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:09.920
I think Botas may have left him.
00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:30.320
Honestly, so Aston being ahead of Cadillac in the constructor standings really just grinds my gears because Cadillac has clearly been the better team, but it was just that weirdness of Monaco that, like, oh yeah, Aston happened into a point.
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:31.920
So I don't know.
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:32.719
Oh well.
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:34.239
At least it was Alonzo.
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:36.239
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:37.280
Let's see.
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:38.639
Pre- Oh, look at this.
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:39.760
I thought this was funny.
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:41.760
It looked in Hungary 2021.
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:45.840
I said, look at this, Mick Schumacher, he belongs in F1.
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:48.960
That that turned out less true.
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:56.000
I also predicted that Toto was gonna, despite what everybody was saying, Toto was gonna keep Botas and George would be stuck at Williams.
00:36:56.159 --> 00:36:58.159
That did not turn out to be true.
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All right, Padger, for Hungary 2026.
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Who goes first?
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You have first pick.
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Nice.
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Well, I'm going with the revenge of George.
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Again, I'm picking George Russell.
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Dang.
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George.
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We'll see.
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I don't know.
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I guess I'll take Kimmy then.
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I gotta make up points somehow.
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I expect him to bring it again.
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We'll see if he can finish the race.
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Then I think I think I'm gonna take Max.
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I think he's he's looked pretty pretty solid.
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So I think, you know, especially in qualifying, Hungary is really one of those qualifying tracks.
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So I feel like he'll do it.
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P2.
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Nice.
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Alright, well, I'm gonna take Max's teammate, Hedjar, and Flash year's winner, Lando Norris.
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Nice.
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Then I'm gonna go with the two Ferraris.
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I'll take Charles, followed closely by Lewis.
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Alright, then.
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So I'm gonna take.
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No one's taking Oscar yet, right?
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I'm gonna take Oscar, and I'm going with another Red Bull.
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I'm gonna go with Liam Lawson.
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Oh, we'll see if he finally gets those upgrades that they gave to Arvin.
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Yeah.
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Because he looked, I mean, yeah.
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Lawson just couldn't hang with Lynnblad because of those upgrades, I think.
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But we'll see.
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Should be fun.
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Then I'm gonna take their rival currently in the constructors, and I'm gonna go with Gasly.
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Nice.
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So for Hungry 2026, you have Kimmy, Max, Charles Lewis, and Pierre Gasly.
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I have George Russell, Isaac Hadjart, Lando Norris, Oscar Castrian, Leon Lawson.
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Any crazy predictions, Patrick?
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Well, I have a crazy prediction because I'm gonna say uh Aston is bringing, supposedly bringing a bunch of big upgrades soon, maybe by Hungary.
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We're not really sure.
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But I expect them to at least have some pretty drastic upgrades by the end of the summer break, at which point Alonso will get a nice feel for the car.
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And in Madrid later this year, he's just gonna go insane.
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He's gonna just take it to everybody.
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He's gonna pass Lewis round the outside, final lap for a spot on the podium.
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And the Spaniards are going to finally name a turn after Alonso, like it seems every other motherfucker on the grid has something named after him already.
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And Fernando does not, so he's finally gonna get his name on an F1 track.
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He'll be part of the lore now.
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Nice, nice.
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My crazy prediction is similar to your Alonso on the podium atmosphere.
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And mine is a winner in a non-top four team in a non-Ray race.
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So not Mercedes, not McLaren, not Red Bull, not Ferrari.
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And obviously would not be Williams either because they're just too, they're just such garbage.
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I don't even know what Williams.
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They have the same, they've getting Mercedes Power.
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Every Mercedes Power unit is just great.
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And I don't know what they're doing at Williams.
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So a winner at a race, at a non-wet race in of a top, of a non-top four team.
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I've made it more and more confusing.
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I was spot on at the beginning.
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So we're gonna have a winner in a non wet race from a non top four team.
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All right.
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