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We're back again with another episode of
the Grappling Dad's podcast with our first guest,
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Chad Bom Malory. How's it going, guys? Real quick, way
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to break your rule immediately. Heat
saying that, stupid leadin. Yeah,
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I didn't. Very next. I
literally have no idea what else to do.
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Very next episode. It's professional.
That's sounds good. They no,
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no, it doesn't cool. So
this is this is going to be the
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the ice breaking of our awesome or
semi awesome interviews. Yes, so lucky
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you, Chado. I feel special. You should. You popping our cherry.
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I like that. It gets awkward. I did have a lot of
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questions that I wrote down. First
question, Chad, are you seriously?
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He's going to write it like that? Well, you couldn't just make a
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conversation. I have to. This
is just do we just meet, Chad.
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I actually thought of this on the
way home from work, because this
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wasn't going to be different. Questions. Not You change that. I did.
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I did, Oh boy, during
live rolling, Chad. On a
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scale of one to ten, how
guilty do you feel when you heal hook
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a helpless blue belt such is myself
like? Ten being real guilty. Yes,
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zero, God damn, that's a
change for the white belt that you
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did it to the other day.
No, didn't think so. Now I
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don't even know. I did do
him more or less what I'm doing it.
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It's just for my training, I
guess you could say. I want
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to be able to since I'm competing
on a higher level. I want to
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be able to see those see it
coming in, or I see it coming
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but see it opening to where I
could hit it if I wanted to.
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And that's when I was telling you, when we were rolling, that you
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know I won't crank it. You
know what I mean. I'll I'll get
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it to where I know I got
a good grip of the heel, but
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I'm not going to. I won't
go anything past that with you on anybody
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like Justin probably the only person I
do it with. Do you like how
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I screamed like a Korean school boy
every time you get in position, like
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yeah, you're like, dude,
just about not going to do it.
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Yeah, I hurt you. I
see trying not to. Yeah, I'M
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gonna say try see if to move
word. Once I had they had a
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bad I had a bad instant a
long time ago with Ben. We're all
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ring. Yeah, that was right
out. He told me, not right
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after we started. I did hear
about it. Yeah, tell me.
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Oh, no, this was a
long this was no as long time ago.
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Yeah, it told me about it
right never he started. Him and
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I were trained him and we were
I was just practice out, same thing
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I was doing so as practice and
heel hooks and he didn't really know.
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He, I mean Brent been was
fresh at the time, okay, and
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I was just kind of drilling it
and we started rolling a little bit soide
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slap the heel hook on, didn't
even crank it and he turned with everything
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I had totally wrong. So he'll
hold himself. Yeah, he screwed up
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and screwed it himself. So that's
why I kind of, like I said,
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I kind of get real. I'm
real careful with it. I haven't
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hurt. I mean that was a
haven't heard anybody saying not. I got
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a wood would, so that's fine. But yeah, we I don't.
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I try to just watch it.
I'll let go a real quick and I
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just, like I said, just
try to see if I get my farm
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and if I wanted to frank and
I could just remark less than my training
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purposes in yere an. He looks
like you, by the way. That's
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fine. He always just looks like
your little smile, like could break you,
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and those are yeah, I try
not to get but hurt with the
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heel huoks, but I'm like,
God damn it, not again. It's
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just it's definitely something you're going to
want to start messing with, you know,
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the higher rank and yeah, you
know, I mean as far as
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you know, if you don't ever
want to compete and things like that.
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Yeah, I mean, it's not
like you have to Dome Right, you
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know, I mean a street fighting, things like that, you're probably not
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going to heal. Well, did
you see the street fight where some guy
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used to he'll look to win in
that basketball. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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I see holds ankles like dude,
yeah, I'm never play basketball again.
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And Yeah, that was awesome.
Yeah, I was a huge fan
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of that and we watch that together. That's so. Yeah, yeah,
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another game moment. Exactly. So, when you're when you're training, because
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you're the coach, so typically that
means that you're the best there. How
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do you keep pushing yourself to a
higher level? Um, because there's nobody
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really there to push you super hard, like you know, I would assume
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that you need. I don't know. I find myself, I try to
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say, pretty humble and I have
that like I'm better than everybody kind of
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attitude. I understand that. Oh
yeah, nobody feels there. Jim,
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he's just asking Um question to me. Like I'll try to do certain things,
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like I'm only gonna I'll try to
play off my back or that's like.
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Or maybe have you guys getting a
dominant position or just things like that,
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and if I don't get out,
you know, I'll try it on
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another guy. As far as this, the caliber of the people I'm rolling
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with, I mean I feel that
maybe I'll just let you guys getting getting
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better positions, or let you ask
my guard, things like that more or
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less, and then see if I
can get out of them. or I'll
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just try to do certain things,
either be some kind of new move,
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I'm trying to hit you. If
I might not, it might not tell
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you what I'm going to do,
but I'm going to try to do it.
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I don't yeah, and if I
don't hit it, at least I'm
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you know, I'm thinking about it
right. Yep, as far as I
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mean, as far as that.
I mean I just the biggest thing.
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I mean I don't try to just
stop anybody at the gym. Justin and
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I get to get at it pretty
good though. Justin Andrews. Yeah,
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he's like one guy your size.
Yeah, it's two bears rolling around.
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Yeah, clear the freaking room.
So yeah, you both tell the watch.
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So yeah, but I used to
try to get down with coral and
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train with him like every Friday.
I used to drive down there a while
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back before we had vehicle issues,
but I was down there roll with him
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Victor and all his, okay,
his guys. That's kind of that was
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kind of my way from the gym
try to roll on with a little higher
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caliber guys. Does he have a
lot of higher belts down there? He's
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got victor, which he's a four
straight brown belt. He came up,
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yeah, as man one time.
This guy, Super Nice Guy. Yeah,
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he's got Claude and Robert Brothers.
They're both think Claude's probably he's got
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to be right around a maybe a
three or four straight purple belt by now.
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And I think Robert's right. I
think he's just straight. He's a
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purple belt them. And then there's
Lucas. Lucas just got his brown belt
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down there. There's a few Er. There's a handful of other guys,
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you know. They're really good to
roll with, cool and all different sizes.
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You know, all the guys there's
some guys are all got different styles,
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you know, so every different guy
you roll it's kind of get acting,
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I can you know makes it.
You look at for you like a
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favorite, like somebody your size and
way R do you like? We're all
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bigger guys, are smaller guys?
Or doesn't it really matter? M It
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doesn't really matter, I don't think. If I'm wrong with somebody bigger,
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I think I'll use my pressure and
things like that a little bit more and
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kind of work more of more things. are going to buy, like a
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little bit more neon belly types,
Yep, and just kind of work on
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my pressure or trying to keep keeping
a dominant position. That makes sense because,
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yeah, if I'm wrong with somebody
obviously lighter in me, you know,
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I'm not just going to smash him
down to the ground. You I'll
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try to move a little bit and
get a position. That's kind of yeah,
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when I was telling you guys the
other day, when we were at
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the gym towards the end. It's, you know, letting people move a
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little bit and then go from there. Got Yea, because I'm wrong with
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what's his face? Robert? Robert. Yeah, you know, and I
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got he thought he was like.
I think he's like, I'm like one
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hundred and fifteen. Oh my God, kids, he's actually smaller than your
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wife getting yeah, that's I thought
my wife was the smallest, but that's
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about ten pounds. I was I
think I was the tiniest human there,
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maybe me or been, but then
he came in, him like a not
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the smallest anymore. I was like, man, I'm almost got about a
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hundred pounds on this. Yeah,
you know. So it's like and I
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got on top of them, things
like that, and I I was going
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across the mountain, things like that. It wasn't really putting on them right.
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You know. I'll let him,
yeah, try to get out and
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escape and things like that and just
you know, I'm not there to be
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a bully out a lot of times
it's just I try to get with everybody
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at the gym. Just try to
get into position and wait for you to
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see if something clicks. Gotch it
for you to get out of it or
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you know. Yeah, I remember
that escape or whatever, that move from
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here, you know, and and
that's I try to do that with all
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the just the lower ranking kind of
guys. Yeah, just so to help
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them get better. You know,
I mean because, like curler said the
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other day, it's my goal is
to get you guys better so where it
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makes it harder for me. You
know. Yep, I want to get
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good enough to where I'm giving curler
a hard roll. You know what I
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mean? I probably never bet to
tap the guy out, but I want
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to get in some work for you. I want to get it to where
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you know it he's I'm not just
not giving him my arm on my neck.
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Yeah, you know, every thirty
seconds when we're rolling. When you
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were rolling, it was it was
like look, yeah, it was fun.
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You didn't, from from outside looking, it look like a good roll.
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I'll tell you this. I think
I watched you shortly after I start.
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It was the first time he came
over. You kind of rolled with
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curler. M You looked way more
comfortable this time. Yeah, don't know
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if you were, doesn't really matter. Ayear makes it a bit different.
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Yeah, I'm munch yeah, whatever's
been. Yeah, no, curler and
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curlers helped me out a lot.
As far as my Jiujitsu, just I
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used to be real muscly and just
seat strength everything and just I don't know,
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I wasn't using a lot of technique
and I was just trying to overpower
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everybody and I was getting gassed and
things of her yeah, I was getting
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hurt injured a lout of the gym. Yep, and since I started training
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with him it's kind of helped me. I to realize that, you know,
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it's if I get swept or get
caught in a bad position, you
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know, stay calm and kind of
yeah, okay, what can I do
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from here? You know, because
we're him and I were rolling a while
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back and he was mounting me like
crazy. He'd mought me and I try
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to escape and I might get out
and he's mounting me again and he'd try
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to start slapping things on me,
chokes and arm bars and stuff like that,
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and then we rolled cast. It
wasn't this last time, maybe the
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time before. You came up one
time and he was going mound again and
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I was just I was just kind
of trying to stay still and like all
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right. What can I do?
And he's attacking me, but I'm kind
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of controlling the position. He's still
on top, but he did it.
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Wasn't getting he wasn't spitting me,
you know. So you know, that
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helped out, having him, you
know, trying to you know, getting
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down to me. Said, Hey, do you know, just because you're
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in a bad position doesn't mean you
can, you know, defend, you
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know, and work out of there
instead the playing around and going crazy,
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which is funny because you taught me
that a long time ago. To stay
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calm. Yeah, Oh, yeah, I like right after I started your
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like you you're doing good if you
stop freaking out. Oh, it's definitely
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tough. I mean when you get
put in a bad when you get somebody
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sitting on top of you, you
know, and in you, you know,
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and you're into the bad position like
then, you you don't know nothing
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right. You know you're going to
freak out because you don't know what to
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do. You know, and the
longer and longer I've been been doing it,
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you know, if you watch,
just watch coralrole, you know,
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if y'all know, if you got
all you guys roll with them the other
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day, right, hmm, I
didn get a chance. I didn't,
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but I had this time. About
to have in the past. I mean
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he'll let you mount them, side
control whatever. You know, he just
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kind of hangs out and waits for
you to screw up. Yeah, his
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his posture and positioning in a bad
position. He doesn't really have to move.
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He lets you move to make your
mistake where he can absolutly escape easily
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and you almost have to do you
have to move it because he won't.
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He is so patient in the best
way possible. So annoying he was.
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He kept putting his hand on my
forehead or trying to, but I knew
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that from the prior time. Like
no, no, not doing it.
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Yeah, ended up doing it and
you grab my wrist. I was done.
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He's getting he's getting pretty wigo with
them wrist locks. I'm not.
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I'm afraid even touch the man.
So, yeah, the first time I
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try to grab his collarie wrist lock
me in like a half a second over.
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The next time rolled I'm I'm like
grabbing his pants again. I don't
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else. Yep, yeah, he's
good. He's a he's a definitely awesome
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instructor and awesome to training, for
sure. How did you. How did
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you meet him? So Rob Mascoll
was a one of my instructors from a
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while, long time ago and he
hoped he had had a school here in
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grand rapids and he was like hitting
miss, he can come in, he'd
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be gone. He might come in
one day a week and a lot of
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times I was teaching classes and things
like that. That cover for him.
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Okay. Well, he ended up
it wasn't hauling, God for he ended
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up moving out to spring lake,
out that way and he had a started
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another small school and then it kind
of closed down. I recently kind of
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got out of the military shortly before
that and I wanted to I want to
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get back in the train and rob
was too far to go train with.
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So I ended up training at a
school here in town, but for about
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a year and a half maybe,
okay, and it was it was okay.
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I mean, I don't want to
I don't like talking bad about it.
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Well, yeah, sometimes they're just
it's not the right school. Feah.
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Yeah, yeah, it's orientate.
Yeah, if it's running it towards
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competition, you're not into that,
or if it's you know, just yeah,
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sometimes it's not going to fit.
Yeah, it's a that school.
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It's just, yeah, persons,
is basically what it was. It this
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wasn't a good fit. You know, I got along with everybody, I
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just didn't feel comfortable. Every time
I want to class, right, I
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didn't. I didn't get excited to
go to class. I wanted to train,
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but it's like I wasn't like sweet, you know, right, let's
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go go to the gym, to
the No, yea excited to do it.
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So I kind of had a small, somewhat of a fallen out with
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the instructor there. He kind of
said something that kind of sent me over
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the edge and I was like,
you know, I said I'm I'm just
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done, and I I sold all
my toys. I sold my seventy four
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DART sport, I sold my Camaro, so my Harley old man, no,
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sold all my toys that I had
and end up starting to school on
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seventy six and one hundred and thirty
one, and we called it West Machine
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Combat Club and it was just basically
just kind of going to be a place
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to kind of train and roll and
dine and just kind of work out with
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guys and pretty much just punch each
other in the face. Yeah, more
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of a fight club when you started? Or was it Jiujitsu? You know,
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it was more do. It was
more JIU Jitsu base. Okay,
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we still did we did pad work
and things like that. We sparred a
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little bit here and there, but
it was it was more Jiu Jitsu.
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And then I did that for we
were there for probably three months maybe,
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and rob ended up taking a job
down in Indiana. I'm not sure what
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he was doing, like carpentry or
something like. They took a job down
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in Indiana and he called. He's
like hey, man, there's there's a
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couple of schools around here, you
know, do Jujitsu, and we're just
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kind of bullshit and I was like, Oh wow, that's cool and he's
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like yeah, it's a one of
them guys down here is a Alio,
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gracie's grandson's right. Yeah, I
was like Oh wow. He's like yeah,
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its names, names. He couldn't
even PRONU. Seems like he was
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a hoiler corely on. He couldn't
a pronounce the name. Is Oh wow,
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yeah, and he's like yeah,
he's like I called him and set
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up a class or a private or
something with them and he's like yeah,
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I got it. Tomorrow or something
like all right, that's cause I will
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call me. Let me know how
it went. And he called me the
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next day and he's like, dude, I got manhandled. And like when
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rob told me that, like because
Rob Masco, back in his day,
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it was he was. He was
like it, yeah, he was.
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He was the toughest dude. I
knew. He's a big dude to is.
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Yeah, yeah, strong, tough. Yeah, I mean him,
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it wouldn't because when we were training
back in two thousand and seven, two
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thousand and eight, you know he
was. He was are instructor. Okay's
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just a beast nice. And I
was like there ain't no way. You
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know, they didn't no way.
Rob, yeah, I got man he's
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like. He's like no, Chad, he's like no, he's like this
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dude mop the floor with me now, kid, and I was like really,
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and rob's forty two. He's like, yeah, this dude's only like
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twenty three years old, twenty two
years old, like, Cra as,
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are you kidding me? Yeah,
he's like. Yeah, he's like hey,
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he's like, let's get him up
to your place for a seven are.
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It's like, all right, cool. And now he said it all
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up okay, and if you go
back on my facebook, on my pit,
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on my just my personal one.
Right, go back to the old
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pictures. Yeah, we see Crowler
and the old place coming up for that
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seminar. We took a bunch of
pictures. Ben's a white belt and I'll
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ill, wow, I'm going to
check that out. Yeah, so he
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came up and, you know,
introduce himself. There was only maybe,
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maybe twelve people showed up. Adam
was there, been was there. I'm
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trying to think who else was there. Maybe Shanna, a lot of a
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lot of the other people aren't training
no more. But so we did the
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seminar and we went up rolling.
He ended up, you know, making
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a mop with me out of floor, just beating the crap on of me
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and just, I don't know,
put on them on. Put it.
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Tell me how after the seminar he
ended up leaving and before he took off
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I was hey, I'm going to
come down next weekend and I want a
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private. So he's like all right. So we set it all up and
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I came down a Saturday morning and
we did a private and got to talk
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it and then as like hey,
I don't know what it take to be
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affiliate with you. I was like, but I'm interested, and he drew
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up a contract and we went.
I was his first affiliate and wow,
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been there, been ever since.
So I was back in two thousand and
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twelve. Very cool to then.
Yeah, that would we to interrupt and
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change the subjects a little bit,
but we have all this whiskey set in
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front of us we haven't touched.
Yeah, let's kind of us again.
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Pop Up Pillar, pop a pillar
and I'm gonna give it a little swig
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and it smells spectacular. Is So
I'm not keep talking. So it's not
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just dead are idiots drinking. That's
pretty good. That's pretty good as tasty.
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There's my turn. Your turn.
Definitely got good flavor. Well,
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Burnie, it is. Yeah,
so bad. Yeah, it's a little
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Bernie, but not bad. Oh, I got I got mine upstairs.
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It actually a little bit more harsh, but this has what you're saying Augustine's.
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Yeah, that one's definitely harsher in
the yeah, but yeah, this
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is good. I like that bad. I'M A fan. Yeah, but
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for sure it's a little colder at
by, a little bit more like coal,
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a little bit bites my sen.
I like my temperature castle Tim Sixty
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five degrees. No, perfect.
It's such a Pansy. I know you
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can't. You can't water it down, though, then you don't get out
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of the flavor. I don't know. I just like it cold. Yeah,
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those like I also like it colder. It's the chill. But I
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don't really have a choice because I
don't pour my own drinks here. So,
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yeah, I don't want anything of
my drinks now. Use Hand them
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to me. So that's that's what
I do. I like water my drink
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now. I can't. I can't
help it. Yeah, but they do
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had to make up for his pansiness
with being manly about his whiskey. They
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do have. He's family miserably,
but that's okay. Have you heard about
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whiskey rocks? Yeah, yeah,
so pro tip for him. If you
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use those, don't use more than
one because they'll stick to the bottom than
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once you tip it so far back
they'll come and smash into your teeth.
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It's a great team chack actual rocks. Yeah, yes, it's granted.
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They're a little their little squares of
grant and they look like dice. Die,
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dice, die is singular dice.
Dice is the plural. Gotcha,
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Nice. How I know that?
Yes, my last can imagine. It's
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weird, right. All right,
so, yeah, thinks are the whiskey
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Chad. That's all. Yeah,
it's really good. Thanks for writing me
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on the show, guys. Thank
you. Oh, you want a sweet
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question. So Paul's questions are real
question. Yeah, mine, on the
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other hand, are not. Okay, so, on a scale to one
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to ten, how horrible am I? And negative numbers are acceptable. I
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mean, this is not starting off
well. He's having to think. I'm
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sing backwards. Man, what's negative? Seven Times that by forty. Carry
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the two. I mean, I
wouldn't start judging yourself now. Personally,
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I mean, since it's only been
what, cool weeks? Couple months maybe?
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Yeah, it's been like two weeks. Two weeks. That was my
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favorite thing you've ever done to me, every freaking time. So, oh,
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yeah, he's new, he's been
your two weeks. My it's been
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like six months. Whatever. Knows
that? To shrimps, YEA, the
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first year's kind of wash. Yeah, I mean, Oh, yeah,
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for sure. I mean it's good
to be hard on yourself when trying.
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I'm going to make you want to
keep training, you know, but you're
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not. I mean you're I think
you know you're on track. You know,
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the biggest thing for you is,
you know, just getting the basics
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down, getting basic positions down,
getting warmups down. You know, get
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some guard passes down, things like
that, some escapes and this kind of
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keep going from there. Once it's
going to take at least a good year
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to ill, thinks start clicking,
I think. Anyway. Huh, I
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mean, you're going to be getting
swept and tapped and smashed, and once
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things start clicking and your body starts
reacting to the movements, that's when I'll
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start geting a lot easier, a
little bit more fun. Right now it's
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kind of like, Oh no,
I've fun smashed, I don't care what
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it would it have fun. Would
it take for you to get past the
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muscling everything? Was it like a
oneday thing, or did you slowly gradually
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start to not for stuff anymore?
I think it got to the point where
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I was muscling too much against guys
that were a lot smaller than me and
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I was getting tired and these little
guys were just like mopping the for me.
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Hmm, nice, excuse me,
and I just I was like,
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you know what, I'm getting tired
of an O reason should be getting tired.
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And then, well, I think
another thing too is rolling with corailer,
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because he's not since he's not,
you know, he's big guy too,
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know Um, and just how easy
it was for him to be able
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to move and seeing him to where
he doesn't really break a sweat, right,
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you know. So to me that
all kind of it all kind of
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really click with corailer. Really before
that it was it was still I mean
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I was training for I started training
in two thousand and six and we met
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curling in two thousand and twelve,
you know. So for those six years
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of training it was all just muscle
and I think was training with him kind
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of help to get all right,
I need to stop all this and just
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focus on the technique and if I
can't hit it, you know, don't
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rely on the stretch to try to
get it. You know, I mean
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just let go, you know.
Or just if they're going to if the
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instead of strengthen the getting said,
I was like somebody like me out strengthen
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somebody if they're like got me an
Armbar, something like that, and audust
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tap instead of maybe next time I
can time it better. To where I
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can escape the arm right, you
know, because a lot of times people
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give me an armbars and I just
try to curl them up and stack them
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or see. Yeah, and you
know, now I think I kind of
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focus on where my hands and things
like that according to this with, you
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know, my opponent, you know. So I really kind of focus on
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my position and things like that,
to where I'm not getting caught and things
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like that. How am I where
my elbows at? How is my posture?
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And it's I focus on that more
so I'm defending less because I'm not
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getting caught as much. So and
then by not getting cause as much and
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trying to fight out of things,
I'm not really getting that tired. That
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it makes sense, you know.
Yeah, really, thing you told me,
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or told the class at the beginning, is if you're at the end
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of rolls and relying up for class
and you have your hands on your knees
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because you can't catch your breath,
you're probably using way too much strength.
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Like you shouldn't be that tired after
your roll don't look a good sweat and,
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you know, breathing hard but not
exhausted. Yeah, or a heavy
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sweater. If for me, yeah, I mean I do that during warmups
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well, when it's like a hundred
ten degrees in there. Yeah, I
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mean it's I mean if we're doing
like a card competition class, you know,
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and and somebody got a tournament or
something like, Somebody's competing, someone's
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coming up, you know, I'm
I'll I'll ramp it up a little bit
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more to where I maybe I'll stop
relying on that technique. I mean I'll
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rely on to take me a lying
lot relying on. I'll use some strength
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to kind of just kind of keep
moving and keep pushing really instead of just
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waiting for the instead of the kind
of hanging out away for this person to
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move or script so I can get
out, I'll just kind of keep pushing
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it to kind of elevate my heart
rate just because I want to sense.
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Yes, want to get the cardio
in more or less and keep my heart
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going, you know, because obviously
you guys knowing a competition or any compete
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in you know it's you walk on
the man before it even starts in your
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heart rates are yeah, Oh yeah, Oh yeah, your adrenalines pomp on.
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Oh Yeah, force. I try
to. I'll try to do stuff
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like that. If I know I'm
getting ready compete to try to keep my
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heart rate really high and I'm not
going to keep my heart right high I'm
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just hanging out, you know,
on my back and just playing around,
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you know, I'll try to push
it a little harder and just kind of
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00:23:15.940 --> 00:23:18.180
force a lot of things just to
keep my heart rate going. Do you
408
00:23:18.259 --> 00:23:22.779
think rolling with the lower belts and
going easy atem teaches yourself bad habits,
409
00:23:22.140 --> 00:23:26.819
like when you're letting people do stuff
to you? Or you'll don't think that
410
00:23:26.900 --> 00:23:29.650
matters? No, I don't think
it matters because you're aware of it.
411
00:23:32.089 --> 00:23:34.289
That's just like how like when I'm
rolling with newer guys, you know,
412
00:23:34.369 --> 00:23:37.849
I'll get to a position and just
let them escape, you know what I
413
00:23:37.930 --> 00:23:41.680
mean, or get to Guar if
i'Mun to let him hip. I love
414
00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:45.640
the amount escape and you get to
guard and just not that I wouldn't be
415
00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:47.759
able to keep the position, but
at the same time it's like, you
416
00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:51.119
know what, I know I can
hold this guy down. Yeah, what's
417
00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:52.839
what's it going to benefit me?
So you're trying to be as technical as
418
00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:56.630
possible, but just really back enough
the guy. Yeah, I mean that's
419
00:23:56.630 --> 00:24:00.029
kind of like I told you guys
the other day when we were in class.
420
00:24:00.190 --> 00:24:03.230
Is like if I'm going for a
sweep or I'm going for a pass
421
00:24:03.269 --> 00:24:07.190
or I'm going for I'll go and
keep good pressure until I complete the sweeper
422
00:24:07.230 --> 00:24:08.789
I complete the pass. Yeah,
you know, that way I'm not getting
423
00:24:08.789 --> 00:24:12.740
sloppy in between my techniques and then
once I get to like side control or
424
00:24:12.740 --> 00:24:15.660
if I get them own or I
get to a position to where I know
425
00:24:15.180 --> 00:24:18.299
I can control this dude and be
real have real good pressure, I'll let
426
00:24:18.339 --> 00:24:21.980
up a little bit and then,
you know, let them get out or
427
00:24:22.019 --> 00:24:25.849
let them move. Yeah, that
way, it's just but I mean,
428
00:24:25.849 --> 00:24:30.890
suppose a Lord, would you like
Justin and sometimetimes you Paul the other guy.
429
00:24:32.210 --> 00:24:34.289
You know, I just I don't
you know, I'll kyll kind of
430
00:24:34.289 --> 00:24:37.289
keep it on you the whole time. That's because I want to see where
431
00:24:37.289 --> 00:24:41.119
you're at. You know, Jesse's
the same way. You know, I
432
00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:45.359
want to I want to go hard
to at the same time, but it's
433
00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:47.039
like I kind of pick and choose, you know. Yeah, how are
434
00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:48.519
you going to roll with me today? You know, kind of thing.
435
00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:49.319
You know, you want to go
hard and I kind of wait. I
436
00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:52.869
kind of wait to feel how I
I'll Justin's always gonna roll hard, no
437
00:24:52.990 --> 00:24:56.349
matter what. Always. Yeah,
I'm kind of he kind of does that
438
00:24:56.470 --> 00:24:59.750
with everybody. Yeah, heat and
I appreciate I love it, because he
439
00:24:59.869 --> 00:25:03.710
does what I want to do,
because he has, I can't say similar
440
00:25:03.710 --> 00:25:07.339
body because he's an Adonis compared to
me, but he's longed. He's long
441
00:25:07.380 --> 00:25:11.460
as a giant. Yeah, he's
tryant. It's crazy. Cardios, it
442
00:25:11.579 --> 00:25:15.420
readers, because I'll roll with Ben
and been experiments a lot. Like he's
443
00:25:15.460 --> 00:25:18.980
technical, but he just tries a
lot of stuff and it's always it always
444
00:25:18.980 --> 00:25:21.690
feels a bit like a flow roll, no matter how hard we go.
445
00:25:22.130 --> 00:25:25.049
It's just, you know, we
do have similar styles. So I'll get
446
00:25:25.049 --> 00:25:27.890
done rolling with Ben and then I'll
roll with like Jesse and Jesse has this
447
00:25:29.329 --> 00:25:36.160
super tight pressure technical. Yeah,
and I can't, I can't try stuff
448
00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:38.720
with him if I don't bring my
a game hundred percent. It's just a
449
00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:42.440
quick, easy tap for you got
to catch Jesse when he's not expecting it.
450
00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:45.480
Yeah, yeah, he's real technical. Oh, yeah, she's got
451
00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:48.359
good grip, he's got good control. He kind of know, he knows
452
00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:51.750
where his body is at and where
your bodies are. He is aware of
453
00:25:51.869 --> 00:25:53.029
every yeah, pretty much all the
Oh, yeah, and you can feel
454
00:25:53.029 --> 00:25:56.750
that. It's interesting how he just
shuts down my defense because, you know,
455
00:25:56.869 --> 00:25:59.509
I don't I kind of pride myself
on my defense. I work on
456
00:25:59.589 --> 00:26:02.789
that really hard just to be you
know, are quotes untappable? Yeah,
457
00:26:02.990 --> 00:26:06.619
but yeah, he'll just kind of
methodically shut down. You know, you
458
00:26:06.660 --> 00:26:08.140
do the same thing, obviously,
but you know, he'd just go from
459
00:26:08.180 --> 00:26:11.460
one thing to another, just slowly
take away out my space in pretty soon
460
00:26:11.500 --> 00:26:15.019
there's no more defense left. Yeah, Jesse's Jesse's just he's a good role
461
00:26:15.099 --> 00:26:19.250
just he's fun to train with.
Jesse and I were tested together when he
462
00:26:19.369 --> 00:26:22.769
tested first prop and I tested for
my brawn and him and I like,
463
00:26:22.769 --> 00:26:26.210
Gosh, three four days a week, like it was just him and I.
464
00:26:26.490 --> 00:26:30.890
Yeah, working out is drilling moves
every we did it every Saturday for
465
00:26:30.369 --> 00:26:33.319
like an hour and a half.
Him and I would just get together every
466
00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:37.200
Saturday and this drill moves and positions
and all the test requirements thing. Like
467
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:41.240
we did that for like nine months, right, you know, just getting
468
00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:42.640
trying to get ready for it.
You know, in between, you know
469
00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:45.640
him to help me because he helps
cover classes, right Yep, and in
470
00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:49.470
between me teaching click meet myself teaching
class to you know. So it's yeah,
471
00:26:49.509 --> 00:26:52.710
it was. That was it.
That was tough. Justin. Jesse's
472
00:26:52.710 --> 00:26:56.829
a good dude. I've known Jesse
for I said, Guy, I think
473
00:26:56.869 --> 00:27:02.579
I met Jesse back in two thousand
seven maybe, Oh wow, two thousand
474
00:27:02.579 --> 00:27:06.460
and eight ish in there, back
when it was like fight club. Yeah,
475
00:27:06.619 --> 00:27:08.539
he's one of the nicest men I've
ever met in my life. The
476
00:27:08.779 --> 00:27:15.059
just a genuine yeah, genuinely just. He hugs me. Yeah, now,
477
00:27:15.259 --> 00:27:19.569
and it's awesome. Oh Wow,
he likes me. Weird. He's
478
00:27:19.609 --> 00:27:22.529
a good dude. He's Awesome Guy
Because he tells you what's in his head
479
00:27:22.529 --> 00:27:26.569
and what's in his heart. You
don't meet many guys that can pull that
480
00:27:26.650 --> 00:27:30.880
up. Yeah, it doesn't hurt
that he looks like you know, action
481
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:33.200
figure. Yeah, this, it
doesn't her does it bum you out,
482
00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:37.279
Chad, that you work out so
hard but you don't look anything like that
483
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:44.789
man is that doesn't get what I
want. We met Jesse we were training
484
00:27:44.869 --> 00:27:48.990
in a gym on Alpine. It
was there's a just a gym there and
485
00:27:48.990 --> 00:27:52.069
they had an empty racketball court.
It was all this kind of tore up,
486
00:27:52.430 --> 00:27:55.869
and that's what we actually threw down
some mats in there. Gotcha.
487
00:27:55.950 --> 00:27:59.380
Oh Wow, like taped up matts
on the walls. Oh Wow. And
488
00:28:00.259 --> 00:28:03.500
Jesse was actually lifting weights there when
I met him, and that's how Jesse
489
00:28:03.619 --> 00:28:06.740
started training, because he's seen us. Oh Wow. Then he kind of
490
00:28:06.740 --> 00:28:10.180
walked and he started training. Oh
really, yeah, nice and yeah.
491
00:28:10.220 --> 00:28:11.380
So he was already like a body. He was he used to be bigger.
492
00:28:11.380 --> 00:28:14.089
N He is now a kidding me
yere he. Oh yeah, he
493
00:28:14.210 --> 00:28:18.490
told me that he's bigger. is
now that the man is shredded. Yeah,
494
00:28:18.529 --> 00:28:21.809
we SCOMM Jesse the body. Oh, no, I I do.
495
00:28:22.369 --> 00:28:26.519
Yeah, drives them and he doesn't
like that. I don't care. And
496
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:30.480
he's pretty humble. He's great.
He's a great dude. He's extremely humble.
497
00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:33.480
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
we have the sweet joke of like
498
00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:37.759
trying to get him into her like
an American archimor group. Yeah, and
499
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:41.829
he just tightens and I can do
a push up on it, like I
500
00:28:41.869 --> 00:28:45.190
guys push ups. Sweet work.
Got This role. I'll go for a
501
00:28:45.230 --> 00:28:47.230
cross college joke from mountain. I'm
like, well, that's not going to
502
00:28:47.269 --> 00:28:48.750
work. He's defending it, so
I'll put both my hands on his arm
503
00:28:48.789 --> 00:28:52.390
and I'm ever all my weight,
which I means a hundred, seventy pounds
504
00:28:52.430 --> 00:28:55.589
whatever, but everything I got behind
it, and he just kind of like
505
00:28:56.619 --> 00:28:59.220
looking at me like what are you
doing? Yeah, Ya, gonna work.
506
00:28:59.460 --> 00:29:02.940
So so you give up. Yet
he's one of them guys like his
507
00:29:03.660 --> 00:29:06.180
arms, as biceps, are just
as big as as farms. It kind
508
00:29:06.180 --> 00:29:08.619
of go down. Yeah, Popeye
arm. Yeah, it's incredible. So
509
00:29:08.700 --> 00:29:11.769
I was gonna ask you about the
the testing that you mentioned. So you
510
00:29:12.009 --> 00:29:17.769
started off obviously where you you get
surprised by your belt, and now you
511
00:29:17.930 --> 00:29:21.170
get tested to get your belt.
Like do you like one better or or
512
00:29:21.490 --> 00:29:25.880
how hard was it to make that
transition? It was. It was simple
513
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:29.519
to make the transition, I think. I think I like seeing what the
514
00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:33.559
quote requirements are instead of just,
you know, getting it. You know,
515
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:36.440
or it's all of a sudden what
one day, you know, we
516
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:40.750
can struck your hands at to you, I think working for it, you
517
00:29:40.869 --> 00:29:45.750
know, learning the Gracie Jiu jitsu
program, you know, learning the learning
518
00:29:45.789 --> 00:29:49.309
Grace Jiu Jitsu. You know.
I think I believe you no more at
519
00:29:49.309 --> 00:29:52.309
the end of the day, you
know, because you'll get guys that are
520
00:29:52.309 --> 00:29:55.339
getting their belts just from because they
took first place at a tournament. Yeah,
521
00:29:55.380 --> 00:29:56.420
you know, things like that.
And Yeah, they might be good
522
00:29:56.420 --> 00:30:00.380
at a few moves. Oh yeah, and they might be winning tournaments.
523
00:30:00.380 --> 00:30:03.420
Maybe they got a wrestling bag on
or something like that, but they really
524
00:30:03.460 --> 00:30:04.980
don't know a lot. That makes
sense. Yet at the end of the
525
00:30:06.019 --> 00:30:10.529
day, it's strongly believe that it's
really no how strong or anything you are.
526
00:30:10.650 --> 00:30:12.490
So how much you know? If
I know, if I see,
527
00:30:12.490 --> 00:30:17.170
if we're rolling and I see you
setting something up and I can I meet
528
00:30:17.170 --> 00:30:18.369
always going for this. I'm going
to I know the counters. I'm going
529
00:30:18.410 --> 00:30:22.160
to counter with this. Yep.
So it's it's an it's a some's of
530
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.559
mind game really, you know.
That's why they call it like a game.
531
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:26.200
It's like a game of chess,
right. You know, it's not
532
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:30.200
physical, it's how much you it's
your tactic. It's tactical. When I
533
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:34.319
was rolling a coiler, we took
off and went to the restaurant and I'm
534
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:37.029
kind of always kind of bummed.
I was like man, you just you
535
00:30:37.109 --> 00:30:40.309
know, I stopped me in front
of everybody and I'm like trying to pick
536
00:30:40.390 --> 00:30:42.589
his brain, like man, dude, we cheered for every little and you
537
00:30:42.750 --> 00:30:45.950
did. We're like, Oh,
I think he breathed right. Yeah,
538
00:30:47.750 --> 00:30:48.309
but I was just trying to pick
his brain. You like, you know
539
00:30:48.390 --> 00:30:52.380
what, where'd I screw up?
And he's like he didn't. He's like
540
00:30:52.460 --> 00:30:56.259
you did just fine. He's like, I'm just better than you. Well,
541
00:30:56.380 --> 00:30:59.180
there you go, and I think
he was. He's like it's not
542
00:30:59.339 --> 00:31:00.779
nothing, she didn't do nothing wrong. He's like you're good. He's like,
543
00:31:00.819 --> 00:31:03.539
I'm just better. I'm like,
Oh, yeah, it's fair enough.
544
00:31:03.940 --> 00:31:07.210
And he said would I really I
really got to focus on is trying
545
00:31:07.250 --> 00:31:12.970
to have more than one thing I'm
thinking of at the same time. HMM,
546
00:31:14.130 --> 00:31:17.890
so if courler's mounted or something like
that, are and he goes for
547
00:31:17.930 --> 00:31:19.160
my collar or what am I going
to do from there? Okay, I
548
00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:22.640
can defend here. Or what if
he possibly goes for this, then I
549
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:23.440
can try to do this. So
it's like kind of having like two or
550
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:26.519
three things. Yeah, you know, it's kind of like, yeah,
551
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:30.440
he's kind of like the Bobby Fisher
of Jiu Jitsu. He's thinking so many
552
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:33.069
moves ahead. Yeah, well,
and you can see it. You can
553
00:31:33.230 --> 00:31:34.670
see it, and I'm that it's
head. I think that's part of the
554
00:31:34.670 --> 00:31:38.470
reason he stays so damn calm.
Is He goes, I know you're going
555
00:31:38.509 --> 00:31:42.470
to defend us and X Y Z. Yeah, and I'm going to retort
556
00:31:44.069 --> 00:31:47.259
with everything I know, and it's
awesome. Yeah, and that's the kind
557
00:31:47.259 --> 00:31:48.299
of he kind of put you in
a position where it's like coming up to
558
00:31:48.420 --> 00:31:52.579
a stop, like you know you're
going to go straight, left or right.
559
00:31:52.660 --> 00:31:53.940
Those are your options and he knows
the option you're going to take.
560
00:31:53.940 --> 00:31:56.380
So if you do a B or
c, he knows exactly what you're going
561
00:31:56.420 --> 00:32:00.339
to do when he has the next
thing for that it's or, if you're
562
00:32:00.380 --> 00:32:04.970
me, he just plays with you. Yeah, you kind of play everybody
563
00:32:05.009 --> 00:32:07.569
regardless. Well, yeah, if
you use old roles of me, he'll
564
00:32:07.609 --> 00:32:09.890
coach somebody else while he's well,
my ass. You had a full lunch
565
00:32:09.970 --> 00:32:15.920
conversation and I had to ask him
I could. Could you stop? I'm
566
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:19.200
right here, Bro, I'm right
right you coach me, I'm right here
567
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:24.039
underneath you. So that thing.
That's I know. I'm I'm I think
568
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:30.750
the test requirements are are a lot
better. Honestly, at the end of
569
00:32:30.750 --> 00:32:35.230
the day, I think too,
by doing, you know, being with
570
00:32:35.349 --> 00:32:38.990
Curler and having the program we have
with him that his grandfather and him,
571
00:32:39.190 --> 00:32:44.460
you know, brought through their family, that they developed. I think it's
572
00:32:44.500 --> 00:32:46.700
better to know than just going to
a competition type school and say, well,
573
00:32:46.740 --> 00:32:50.220
I'm going to compete and do all
this stuff, because at the end
574
00:32:50.220 --> 00:32:52.980
of the day, your if you
compete on a regular basis, you're going
575
00:32:52.980 --> 00:32:55.220
to be broke, you're going to
be hurt. Yeah, you know it.
576
00:32:55.220 --> 00:32:58.180
Yeah, for sure, you know, do you? You know?
577
00:32:58.220 --> 00:33:00.849
I'll plan on doing Jiujitsus the rest
of my life, you know, and
578
00:33:00.849 --> 00:33:04.130
I don't want to be sixty years
old, you know, and I was
579
00:33:04.170 --> 00:33:06.410
a and just not being a little
walk right because, you know, I,
580
00:33:07.009 --> 00:33:08.730
you know, competed for yeah,
half my Clare. Oh Yeah,
581
00:33:08.730 --> 00:33:12.049
I'm I'll beat up on my fingers
are all messed up. I got cauliflyer
582
00:33:12.170 --> 00:33:15.440
like crazy and just you know,
I'll beat up and curled up. So
583
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:21.440
that I think having our style,
gracie style Jiujitsu, curler style Jiujitsu,
584
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:27.309
and having that program, you can
still learn Jiujitsu without, you know,
585
00:33:27.430 --> 00:33:30.750
having to compete if you don't want
to. Oh yeah, so he's fine
586
00:33:30.910 --> 00:33:34.630
and you're fine with somebody that knows
all the moves technically, but might not
587
00:33:34.789 --> 00:33:37.430
be out there whinning tournaments. So
so let's say there's a blue belt that
588
00:33:37.470 --> 00:33:40.349
used to wrestle all the time and
he's twenty five years old. He's built
589
00:33:40.349 --> 00:33:45.259
like Jesse the body, but he's
like a black belt and two or three
590
00:33:45.259 --> 00:33:47.259
moves, but he's a white belt
and everything else, but he has his
591
00:33:47.299 --> 00:33:51.660
blue belt. Then he comes and
he destroy somebody that got their blue belt
592
00:33:51.700 --> 00:33:54.579
through the curler or the gracie system
like that's that's not a problem, then
593
00:33:54.930 --> 00:33:59.450
I don't I don't think so.
No, I mean it's not that I
594
00:33:59.970 --> 00:34:06.170
honestly don't see somebody like that,
because we've had big wrestlers come into the
595
00:34:06.170 --> 00:34:10.039
school, you know. We've had
that young kid, eighteen, nineteen years
596
00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:14.400
old wrestler and Oh yeah, went
against Morgan, you know, and he
597
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:20.519
was heavy, heavy, strong dude
and Morgan would had to stop with her
598
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:22.519
submissions on him because he wasn't tapping, because he really wasn't know what they
599
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:24.590
are. And right, that's going
to break his arm. I did the
600
00:34:24.670 --> 00:34:29.110
same thing to him. You don't
all watch me. Literally I had to
601
00:34:29.110 --> 00:34:31.510
let go because I was breaking his
face. Yeah, and he I was
602
00:34:31.590 --> 00:34:35.710
like all right, dude, that's
I'm done. I don't think you'll get
603
00:34:35.750 --> 00:34:38.820
a guy that's good at one or
two moves and able to beat one of
604
00:34:38.860 --> 00:34:43.139
our guys, one of our blue
belts. I don't believe that. I
605
00:34:43.300 --> 00:34:45.420
think by because, like, we're
not just going to hand out belts.
606
00:34:45.739 --> 00:34:49.059
You know you're going to have to
earn it. You know you got it.
607
00:34:49.139 --> 00:34:52.420
You got an old positions, I
mean period when it comes to white
608
00:34:52.500 --> 00:34:55.969
to blue. You know you're learning
to set more the Selfdefense side of Jiu
609
00:34:57.010 --> 00:35:00.769
Jitsu right from white to blue.
Once you start getting a blue to purple
610
00:35:00.809 --> 00:35:02.690
and things like that, you know
now you're ending more. You know you
611
00:35:02.849 --> 00:35:06.730
had in more chokes, more locks. You know your transitions and things like
612
00:35:06.769 --> 00:35:10.239
that. I don't think you'll you'll
get another guy that's just going to come
613
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:13.519
in and just mop the floor with
any of the color belts at the school.
614
00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:15.800
That's cool. You know well and
if you think about it, it
615
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:20.719
makes sense because you to get your
blue in the system, you have to
616
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:23.070
have your basics, don't. Yeah, literally, you can't. I mean
617
00:35:23.110 --> 00:35:28.269
it's the biggest part of the Curriculim
is that is defending yourself. Yeah,
618
00:35:28.269 --> 00:35:30.949
I like the test. At first
I wasn't sure about it because I wasn't
619
00:35:30.949 --> 00:35:34.150
used to that. I'm used to
hey, you get surprised by it and
620
00:35:35.190 --> 00:35:37.820
that's just the way it was.
So yeah, how long were you're a
621
00:35:37.860 --> 00:35:42.340
white belt? Eight years, I
said. Yeah, well, I mean
622
00:35:42.340 --> 00:35:44.340
it was on, it off.
I got heat. Says that, but
623
00:35:44.460 --> 00:35:46.219
it was on for like six eight
months. So most of the time he
624
00:35:46.300 --> 00:35:50.449
was training. Just want to get
that clear, because Paul bitches about that
625
00:35:50.489 --> 00:35:52.170
all the time, like no,
dude, it was okay, we'll give
626
00:35:52.210 --> 00:35:55.969
you seven years. I don't bitch
so much is it just kind just kind
627
00:35:57.010 --> 00:35:59.769
of funny now, because most people
they'll get a blue bell a year,
628
00:35:59.769 --> 00:36:01.690
year and a half, two years
Max if they if they train what two
629
00:36:01.690 --> 00:36:05.400
or three days a week? Yeah, and they're serious about it. I'm
630
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:08.079
thinking like three years for me minimum, and then there's being but yeah,
631
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:12.679
just knowing that if you know this
stuff and you're profession at it, then
632
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:15.920
you get a your next rink.
I think that's fantastic. You know idea.
633
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:19.150
You know, I when I started
Jiujutsu, I wasn't obviously under Coraler,
634
00:36:19.230 --> 00:36:21.030
so I you know, I was
given my blue belt and I was
635
00:36:21.070 --> 00:36:23.989
given my purple belt. Yep,
it always in the back of my head.
636
00:36:24.190 --> 00:36:27.909
It was like, I'm to my
did I really deserve it? Am
637
00:36:27.949 --> 00:36:36.059
I at that level? And now, being with curler and doing from what
638
00:36:36.179 --> 00:36:39.579
we do, what we do now
and the system we have, I don't
639
00:36:39.619 --> 00:36:45.340
have that doubt in my head anymore. You know, I feel I'm proficient.
640
00:36:45.500 --> 00:36:52.809
You know I've trained, you know
I've studied and drilled and even if
641
00:36:52.849 --> 00:36:55.769
I never compete again, and eventually
so, if I'd get my black belt
642
00:36:55.849 --> 00:36:59.570
someday, I'm not going to feel
like I don't deserve it right. Yeah,
643
00:36:59.610 --> 00:37:01.639
I mean, yeah, that's good
feeling. So I when I got
644
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:05.880
my brown belt, when I got
my Pearl Belt, I don't think I
645
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:07.639
wanted it, you know, I
didn't think I deserved it. I was
646
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:10.280
like there ain't no way. Wow, and I was just before. I
647
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:14.800
was always hasn't going other schools,
being a purple belt and just you know
648
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:15.909
what, if this Bluebell gets me
here, this white bell gets me.
649
00:37:15.989 --> 00:37:20.750
I always second guess my my skills. Yeah, I've talking you know before
650
00:37:22.389 --> 00:37:27.670
and now I that doesn't even cross
my line anymore. So I think just
651
00:37:27.829 --> 00:37:31.699
by earning it and, you know, drilling it, and I mean,
652
00:37:31.780 --> 00:37:37.059
like I said, at nine months
to just nothing but drilling and technique.
653
00:37:37.539 --> 00:37:40.260
You know, I feel, after
from at once, you get from once
654
00:37:40.340 --> 00:37:44.570
you start training for your purple and
you're doing all the transitions and things like
655
00:37:44.610 --> 00:37:45.690
that. I mean you got to
know, you know, you got to
656
00:37:45.769 --> 00:37:49.690
know least you know, six different
guard pass. You got to six different
657
00:37:49.690 --> 00:37:52.130
monascape. You got to know,
you got to know something from each position.
658
00:37:52.530 --> 00:37:54.449
You know, NE ON BELLY NOR
SOUTH HALF GUARD. You know,
659
00:37:54.809 --> 00:37:58.599
from the back. It's so it's
like where you going to put me now
660
00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:00.519
that I haven't drilled? Yes,
some sort of escape, as some sort
661
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:02.639
of move. So I hate,
yeah, I had to do to get
662
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:06.320
to this right. Yeah, it's
awesome, you know. That's what and
663
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:08.000
that's what I like about it's you're
not going to put me in a position
664
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:12.199
that I haven't been drilling. You
know, I might not have even if
665
00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:15.989
the dudes heavy or something like maybe
wear the same rank and he's really heavy.
666
00:38:15.989 --> 00:38:17.030
And Yeah, I got, you
know, three or four different escapes
667
00:38:17.429 --> 00:38:20.469
and I maybe, you know,
I maybe not hit one. Might not
668
00:38:20.550 --> 00:38:23.150
hit one, but I'm not going
to second guess that I wouldn't be able
669
00:38:23.150 --> 00:38:28.300
to get out right. You know. Yeah, that isn't so it's that's
670
00:38:28.579 --> 00:38:31.860
I love having the program that we
do. Some people don't. We've had
671
00:38:31.860 --> 00:38:36.699
guys coming to the school that they
look at and there's like you know,
672
00:38:36.860 --> 00:38:39.699
well, such says gave me this
belt and I'm and I've rolled with dudes
673
00:38:40.099 --> 00:38:45.010
and I'm just like they are in
no way you're at this rank going and
674
00:38:45.090 --> 00:38:50.690
it's in it. I've seen you
do it and it's in the vicinity and
675
00:38:50.809 --> 00:38:52.690
I try to be nice to the
guys, but it's like, you know,
676
00:38:54.449 --> 00:38:57.719
you know, you're just not up
to what I expect, or what
677
00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:02.360
I feel curler would expect of of
a certain rank. It's fair. Yeah,
678
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:07.840
that's really fair. And I mean
those kind of people that walk in,
679
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:09.989
this is my belt, I got
to represent, are usually the people
680
00:39:09.989 --> 00:39:13.670
are going to be a problem for
the school anyway. Oh yeah, yeah,
681
00:39:13.789 --> 00:39:16.510
just in my well, you're to
be fair. I I thought that
682
00:39:16.550 --> 00:39:20.670
a little bit because I came in
as a brand new blue bell. I
683
00:39:20.710 --> 00:39:22.949
got my blue belt. I probably
trained two or three months after I got
684
00:39:22.989 --> 00:39:25.460
my blue belt, if that,
and then I didn't train for months.
685
00:39:25.579 --> 00:39:29.500
So I came in here and I
can't plained taking it off, but then
686
00:39:29.500 --> 00:39:31.539
I thought that'd be disrespectful to my
old coach. So I kept it on.
687
00:39:31.780 --> 00:39:34.780
Yeah, but I was orried.
I'm like, man, I don't
688
00:39:34.780 --> 00:39:37.059
want to look stupid. You know. That was my fear because, like
689
00:39:37.659 --> 00:39:39.650
to your point, I didn't have
any any test. It was just hey,
690
00:39:39.730 --> 00:39:43.170
you know, clean up these things, don't do this stupid stuff,
691
00:39:43.210 --> 00:39:45.530
and you'll you'll be a blue belt. So I did that. I worked
692
00:39:45.530 --> 00:39:46.289
on, you know, not doing
the dumb stuff that I was doing as
693
00:39:46.329 --> 00:39:51.889
a white belt and and felt I
earned that, I guess. But yeah,
694
00:39:51.929 --> 00:39:54.800
jog you can't give him anything.
I can't give himself shit, I
695
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:58.920
guess. Not got all the way
through this very nice die tribe and there
696
00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:05.360
goes. When I'm at Curler,
I already had a purple Um and that
697
00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:07.710
guy said I was at that mind
state that now I'm not really a purple.
698
00:40:08.030 --> 00:40:10.269
I was a pro I stay,
I got I got my purple belt
699
00:40:10.309 --> 00:40:13.949
in two thousand and ten. I'm
at Crowl in two thousand and twelve.
700
00:40:14.030 --> 00:40:19.389
Okay, I didn't get my brown
belt till last year. Yeah, so
701
00:40:19.429 --> 00:40:22.300
yeah, I was, I was. I was a purple belt for six
702
00:40:22.420 --> 00:40:25.739
years. Wow, you know what
I mean. Yeah, so it's a
703
00:40:25.900 --> 00:40:29.219
like kind of cool like kind of
started me all over at that rank.
704
00:40:29.219 --> 00:40:30.900
He's like, Oh, you can
keep your belt, but I think he
705
00:40:30.980 --> 00:40:34.099
kind of he didn't take it as
all. He's already been a prop belt
706
00:40:34.139 --> 00:40:37.449
for two years. He took it
as he's a purple belt, but we're
707
00:40:37.489 --> 00:40:39.530
going to make him a better PLA. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so,
708
00:40:39.769 --> 00:40:43.010
and never at least is regular.
Yeah, and that's and that's what
709
00:40:43.090 --> 00:40:45.849
he did. You know. He, like I said, I was down
710
00:40:45.889 --> 00:40:49.210
there a lot. Yeah, even
when I started it was every Friday.
711
00:40:49.210 --> 00:40:52.320
Yeah, we knew tray wasn't going
to be at the gym. Yeah,
712
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:53.800
so, and I mean that's in
that's that's kind of like I think I
713
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:55.480
told you guys before. That's where
I was like, all right, that's
714
00:40:55.480 --> 00:41:00.400
where Chad goes and gets his training
and you know. So. And it's
715
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:02.920
not like like I can't get better
with you guys, just you know,
716
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:06.869
I like going down there and just
rolling without all. Yeah, that's awesome.
717
00:41:06.909 --> 00:41:12.389
Well, I'm offended. I don't
care. Kim should have seen that
718
00:41:12.510 --> 00:41:15.989
coming. Oh, I have another
question. All right. Yes, what
719
00:41:16.389 --> 00:41:22.500
do you rank, Paulie, because
this is a constant conversate. Conversation between
720
00:41:22.579 --> 00:41:28.460
Paul and I is Paul thinks he's
the worst ever, and I can't.
721
00:41:28.659 --> 00:41:31.699
I just I contradict that with he
has a pretty good amount of skill and
722
00:41:31.739 --> 00:41:36.090
he's really good at what he's good
at. Yes, I believe the same
723
00:41:36.090 --> 00:41:42.730
thing. He's definitely good at what
he does. I've H I think Paul's
724
00:41:44.130 --> 00:41:49.599
biggest thing that's prevent him from opening
up and kind of getting past that is
725
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:53.920
doubting himself. Oh, that hurts
a little bit. Yeah, that is
726
00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:58.119
not my favorite person in the world. Sorry, Curler, I've moved on
727
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:05.110
and that's not it's not nothing bad. I think you know, you gotta
728
00:42:06.550 --> 00:42:10.230
be confident in your skills. You're
going to get tapped regardless. It's going
729
00:42:10.309 --> 00:42:13.949
to happen. You'RE gonna GET TAT
by lower belts. You know you're going
730
00:42:13.989 --> 00:42:15.460
to. It's going to be harder
to do jiujitsu against other guys that are
731
00:42:15.460 --> 00:42:21.579
training. Yeah, period, but
I think, like we had that conversation
732
00:42:21.699 --> 00:42:23.659
before, it's you kind of you
were. You kind of get one dimensional
733
00:42:23.940 --> 00:42:28.340
in a way. You might be
just be focused on okay, I'm going
734
00:42:28.380 --> 00:42:30.329
to break to some break the guard. Okay, I got my grips on
735
00:42:30.409 --> 00:42:34.090
his on the pants, and then
I got the grips on the pants.
736
00:42:35.730 --> 00:42:37.650
You know, and then it's you
kind it's almost you kind of freeze and
737
00:42:37.650 --> 00:42:39.650
it's like you give that your opponents
to the second second, yeah, to
738
00:42:39.690 --> 00:42:43.090
advance out of there, and then
you're now you're starting all over again.
739
00:42:43.929 --> 00:42:46.159
So it's I think you get a
kind of got a just open up your
740
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:51.440
mind and this it's not not Saye. Stay, we're not stay, relaxed.
741
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:54.719
So you seem like you're relaxed.
I don't know, calm your mind
742
00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:57.840
or something. Maybe a little bit
to take a deep breath and think of
743
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:00.070
where you're at and what you got
to do. That makes sense. But
744
00:43:00.429 --> 00:43:04.670
I mean, as far as your
skill level, I mean you're there.
745
00:43:06.789 --> 00:43:08.230
I think. I just I think
you just you just need to kind of
746
00:43:08.789 --> 00:43:13.340
get past yourself like that. Doubt
Self, doubt. This is so much
747
00:43:13.420 --> 00:43:16.579
fun for me great now. Many
Times I've told him that Shit. Yeah,
748
00:43:16.619 --> 00:43:20.619
no, I' ton, you're here, you got you're good. You
749
00:43:20.659 --> 00:43:22.340
are, you're real good. You
know, you're a good you're fun to
750
00:43:22.340 --> 00:43:25.260
roll with. I enjoyed rolling with
the other enjoy training with you. I
751
00:43:25.460 --> 00:43:32.090
don't at all think you know you're
lower than what you are now at all.
752
00:43:32.170 --> 00:43:36.289
I mean, I have anything you
need to start. I think.
753
00:43:36.329 --> 00:43:37.010
I told you just a few weeks
ago, it's you need to start.
754
00:43:37.010 --> 00:43:39.969
It's time to start focusing and on
that next one and, YEP, start
755
00:43:40.050 --> 00:43:44.239
getting this test, cromer stone,
don't worry, his wife told them to
756
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:46.800
now, so it'll actually happen.
Yeah, like I told you guys the
757
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:49.280
other day, it's on you,
though, you know, at the end
758
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:51.320
of the day. Yeah, I
can tell you what I think and what
759
00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:54.400
I feel and you know, with
you already coming to us as a blue
760
00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:59.230
belt and once you get the program
down, I think you'll feel a lot
761
00:43:59.269 --> 00:44:02.150
more comfortable with things. Yeah,
I think so too. So, because
762
00:44:02.150 --> 00:44:05.269
you know, you know, you
know Jiu Jitsu. You know, you're
763
00:44:05.309 --> 00:44:07.070
not just like some do that just
walk on the door. You're not.
764
00:44:07.110 --> 00:44:09.739
You can. It's what he's saying. I saw him look at me real
765
00:44:09.780 --> 00:44:15.460
quick. That some Cherry Suns,
loud mouthings, loud asshole that comes to
766
00:44:15.539 --> 00:44:21.019
my gym. Oh wait, sorry, but man, you guys. Everybody's
767
00:44:21.019 --> 00:44:23.019
doing great. You know, there's
the I don't I don't have anything bad
768
00:44:23.019 --> 00:44:25.409
to say about the about the students
of the gym. You know, we've
769
00:44:25.449 --> 00:44:30.809
had, you know, bad apples. I guess you could say walk through
770
00:44:30.809 --> 00:44:32.489
the door that that just aren't there
no more. Yeah, you know.
771
00:44:32.650 --> 00:44:37.010
So it's I kind of I like
the way you squash that and keep a
772
00:44:37.170 --> 00:44:39.719
safe, good environment. So whenever
when we go to the class, it's
773
00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:44.480
a it's a family. It's absolutely
yeah, for sure, you protect the
774
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:46.159
family. So if there's somebody that
you know comes in trying to throw their
775
00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:49.920
weight around and treat people like Shit, you don't have that. So,
776
00:44:50.159 --> 00:44:53.590
yeah, it's it did not take
them. He I've what once I've seen
777
00:44:53.630 --> 00:44:55.550
him. I need that. He
had to. There was a guy that
778
00:44:55.670 --> 00:44:59.510
just came with the big head,
Nice Guy and everything. It's just he
779
00:44:59.630 --> 00:45:02.710
came on the big head and it
took Chad what two months? Yeah,
780
00:45:02.869 --> 00:45:06.469
and Chad took care of that day. gave him every chance and then,
781
00:45:06.670 --> 00:45:10.139
Gosh you did you talk to him
and he murdered. Did ever tell you
782
00:45:10.300 --> 00:45:14.619
I almost stopped coming because of that
guy? Yes, yeah, I think
783
00:45:14.619 --> 00:45:16.500
you were kind of maybe overheard something. I've kind of heard a lot of
784
00:45:16.500 --> 00:45:21.179
people complain about it. beat the
crap out of me. beat the crap
785
00:45:21.260 --> 00:45:23.849
on me my first day like yeah, oh no, if I wanna come
786
00:45:23.969 --> 00:45:29.409
back, and then Chad smiled at
me and said so you train it again
787
00:45:29.489 --> 00:45:34.849
today, shit and they it's then, you know, I give people,
788
00:45:34.849 --> 00:45:36.800
I try to get people as man, chances like Oh, for sure,
789
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:38.360
I'll try to feel them out,
you know, and maybe there's nervous and
790
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:43.199
uncomfortable. Obviously you know come from
someplace else and you know they're on edge.
791
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:45.639
So I'll give you a little bit
of chance to, you know,
792
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:46.840
get comfortable with us, right.
You know, I mean that way I
793
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:50.429
can, you can kind of calm
down if you are on edge. Yeah,
794
00:45:52.070 --> 00:45:58.590
and obviously this that individuals wasn't willing
to you know, I guess loses
795
00:45:58.670 --> 00:46:00.309
ego right on. Yeah, yeah, he just in fit. The GEM
796
00:46:00.389 --> 00:46:02.429
is. There's nothing wrong with the
guy. He was a nice guy.
797
00:46:02.710 --> 00:46:06.019
So, yeah, it was a
nice guy. It was just more of
798
00:46:06.099 --> 00:46:08.460
a matt bully, I guess you
could. Yeah. So, yes,
799
00:46:08.780 --> 00:46:12.940
said a deal with him. I
got him in a body triangle from behind
800
00:46:13.099 --> 00:46:15.820
and he told me I was doing
it wrong. Yeah, Hey, you
801
00:46:15.860 --> 00:46:20.409
got coached as I was like a
let's get a tippen. Would you let
802
00:46:20.449 --> 00:46:23.369
me show you what I'm doing?
I'm like no, and, by the
803
00:46:23.409 --> 00:46:28.329
way, I rolled no worse ever
than I'm when I'm Rong with you.
804
00:46:29.210 --> 00:46:34.159
I roll like a freaking moron with
you don't know why? Yeah, it's
805
00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:37.199
quite entertaining to myself. That's why
you hear me laughing, like I've never
806
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:38.800
done that before, but now doing
it with Chad and he's choking me.
807
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:42.119
Yeah, I'm saying that. Last
time you were training. You're like,
808
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:44.880
I don't even know what I'm doing
that. Yeah, I literally don't.
809
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:46.150
And what the last time we roll, you caught me a loop joke.
810
00:46:46.190 --> 00:46:49.710
I'm like, I never get caught
loop jokes. He's like, Dude,
811
00:46:49.710 --> 00:46:51.869
I'm you could have done in slow
motion. Like what the Hell? Yeah,
812
00:46:51.989 --> 00:46:53.349
looks like it was a slow motion. Yeah, you've done a slow
813
00:46:53.469 --> 00:46:57.110
motion to me and I'm just like
and I'm literally watched, like Oh,
814
00:46:57.190 --> 00:47:00.980
look, look here. Oh yeah, definitely happening, because I do for
815
00:47:01.179 --> 00:47:07.019
I love rolling with Ben and Adam
and my main goals just to not let
816
00:47:07.059 --> 00:47:08.619
him tat me. I don't care
if they do. Would you know?
817
00:47:08.780 --> 00:47:12.579
I don't care. It's fun,
that's good, but yeah, I mean
818
00:47:12.619 --> 00:47:15.139
I make them work. That's my
goal. Oh, yeah, you know,
819
00:47:15.460 --> 00:47:19.369
but with you I go, I
might as well where a helmet with
820
00:47:19.530 --> 00:47:22.449
some stickers on it, because it's
like I see your smile, like as
821
00:47:22.449 --> 00:47:28.690
I'm fun and Nice. Don't know
what I'm doing. Shit. You guys
822
00:47:28.730 --> 00:47:30.480
are defined every I I think I'm
probably good. I probably get the same
823
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:34.280
way when I roll, you know, with black belts and things like that.
824
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:37.440
You'd all just kind of Giddy,
and you know you do. Dude,
825
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:39.679
you were smiling even with Curler,
until they grabbed you under the chin.
826
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:43.960
You were doing fine. That was
that was that was that looked freaking
827
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:45.349
painful. That was rough. Yeah, I think we all get a bit
828
00:47:45.429 --> 00:47:49.070
of that, you know, hero
worship. You know it's the wrong word.
829
00:47:49.110 --> 00:47:50.909
You know I'm saying, though,
where it's like it's the coach and
830
00:47:50.989 --> 00:47:52.269
you know you just get nervous because
you want to do you want to do
831
00:47:52.389 --> 00:47:57.710
well, but then then that just
makes you do worse as Oh yeah,
832
00:47:57.750 --> 00:48:00.980
absolutely, I take it to a
whole new freaking level. It's like him
833
00:48:00.139 --> 00:48:04.539
so bad, like dude. Seriously, you put me on belly and I
834
00:48:04.659 --> 00:48:07.460
forgot what to do. Well,
I'm just gonna give my arm, I
835
00:48:07.500 --> 00:48:10.460
guess that's that's what you're supposed to
do, right, because I work with
836
00:48:10.539 --> 00:48:14.570
Paul a lot. Yeah, like
a lot, and all I done is
837
00:48:14.730 --> 00:48:17.570
what six months of defense, just
just making sure I can lay down and
838
00:48:17.809 --> 00:48:22.369
not get tapped. I don't get
tapped too terribly much, but then when
839
00:48:22.409 --> 00:48:24.289
I'm with you, like, Oh, you tat me thirty seven times and
840
00:48:24.449 --> 00:48:29.880
thirty seconds. I don't think that's
possible, but do you somehow do like
841
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:32.079
good advice for like a brand new
wipe belt that comes into there? Like
842
00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:35.719
what should they focus on first,
because I realize you're going to get the
843
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:37.920
curriculum and what it is, but
like something that they should focus on the
844
00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:45.230
first missay six months there training.
Don't focus onto all the flashy stuff that
845
00:48:45.309 --> 00:48:49.829
you see MTV. Yeah, you
know, that's a good that's a good
846
00:48:49.829 --> 00:48:52.389
one, because I did that when
I came in. Don't, don't.
847
00:48:52.429 --> 00:48:55.820
Don't be worried about hitting, like
you know, like he's like, see,
848
00:48:55.820 --> 00:49:00.179
these guys are like flying arm bars
and this something. Sometimes you see
849
00:49:00.300 --> 00:49:01.300
something on Youtube and all that looked
awesome. I want to be able to
850
00:49:01.340 --> 00:49:05.019
do that, Paul. Focus on
the most basic moves you can do.
851
00:49:05.500 --> 00:49:07.619
You know, Armbar from Mount,
you know, Cross College show from guard.
852
00:49:07.980 --> 00:49:10.210
You know, work on some guard
passes. You know, just some
853
00:49:10.369 --> 00:49:15.449
basic you know, double Underhook Guard
pass, things like that. Work on
854
00:49:15.530 --> 00:49:17.769
the basic move. Don't worry about
looking. Don't worry about the flashy stuff.
855
00:49:19.090 --> 00:49:24.159
Not. Ninety nine percent of the
time that flashy stuff is just made
856
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:28.639
to look flashy. You know,
you'll see these guys. You'll there's I
857
00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:34.320
seen a guy today, number,
let's see, number ten, to defense,
858
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:36.440
when somebody's grabbing you on your shouler
Ni pull you in. Yeah,
859
00:49:36.599 --> 00:49:39.309
it's dude went around the guy's arm. It was going to write like doing
860
00:49:39.389 --> 00:49:43.829
like standing arm lock, but like
jumped and spun in the air and got
861
00:49:43.869 --> 00:49:47.030
him in Armbar, but cheess,
you know. So it's like, yeah,
862
00:49:47.070 --> 00:49:50.590
that looks cool, like something you
see on like like a movie,
863
00:49:50.630 --> 00:49:53.139
like a John Way. I know. But at the same time as that
864
00:49:53.300 --> 00:49:57.780
really going to work from? So
when are we going to learn the the
865
00:49:57.900 --> 00:50:00.619
John Wick Triangle to shoot them in
the face? Move? Yeah, because
866
00:50:00.619 --> 00:50:05.420
that's our favorite right nowaday. But
yeah, I think this focus on the
867
00:50:05.460 --> 00:50:07.409
basics. Get good at you know, get good at a few things,
868
00:50:07.690 --> 00:50:15.610
you know, starting off the bat. Don't don't get crazy on like trying
869
00:50:15.650 --> 00:50:20.449
to just get good. Like we
had that one kid, Gosh, what
870
00:50:20.610 --> 00:50:22.280
was his name? He was there
every single Yep, all right, always
871
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:25.199
forget his name, but yeah,
we had a fluffy hair. Yeah,
872
00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:29.440
really Nice Guyny came to every single
class. Was a John. No,
873
00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:32.239
no, I forgotten too. He's
been gone to Super Nice killed. I
874
00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:35.710
love to go. He over the
trinks. He was trying to get good
875
00:50:35.949 --> 00:50:37.710
like overnight, you know, and
he was getting hurt and he's getting banged
876
00:50:37.710 --> 00:50:42.030
up and he you know, he
I told I kept trying to tell him
877
00:50:42.030 --> 00:50:44.030
as the dude, you need to
slow down, you know, get in
878
00:50:44.110 --> 00:50:45.230
one of two days a week and
just start slow. You know, you're
879
00:50:45.230 --> 00:50:49.469
not going to get good overnight.
Just you just it's not gonna happen,
880
00:50:49.789 --> 00:50:52.980
you know, and he ended up
quitting. Yeah, I think. I
881
00:50:53.059 --> 00:50:59.300
think learning how to tap before things
are like too late would help. Like
882
00:50:59.420 --> 00:51:00.980
Anthony, I was wrong with him
and he had me in an arm bar
883
00:51:01.099 --> 00:51:04.489
and I was defending it. I
had, you know, my my arms
884
00:51:04.570 --> 00:51:07.170
locked, but it was a matter
of the second before they're gonna be unlocked.
885
00:51:07.170 --> 00:51:08.650
So I just said Hey, tap
because well, would I get you
886
00:51:08.769 --> 00:51:12.210
in the N Bar? He goes, yeah, but I didn't have the
887
00:51:12.289 --> 00:51:15.849
UN bar like but you would have
and I didn't want it to my top.
888
00:51:15.889 --> 00:51:17.449
So I'm do you know, I'm
just being safe and not in that
889
00:51:17.489 --> 00:51:22.280
position because I'm already hurt. Yeah, I did that with Ben. You
890
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:27.639
had me and your own Plata and
heat, like I can you know me.
891
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:30.039
You can turn it around some like
my ear, and I'm pretty good.
892
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:32.230
I don't really care. No one
believes me, but I'm like yeah,
893
00:51:32.230 --> 00:51:36.670
I'm fine, but he's doing that
and I was like there's no way
894
00:51:36.670 --> 00:51:38.349
I'm getting out because I already rolled. He just went back to it.
895
00:51:38.510 --> 00:51:42.230
I'm like, yeah, well,
I'm good, tap and he goes.
896
00:51:42.510 --> 00:51:45.469
Damn it, I was just about
to choke you with the coolest joke.
897
00:51:45.190 --> 00:51:47.460
Yeah, I was actually disappointed.
I'm like, Shit, I would like
898
00:51:47.579 --> 00:51:52.900
to see that Ben's Ben's getting Ben's
getting good too, and he's he's kind
899
00:51:52.900 --> 00:51:58.619
of getting to the point where he
needs to kind, kind of believe in
900
00:51:58.659 --> 00:52:00.300
himself a little bit more too.
Yeah, do you think that's why he
901
00:52:00.690 --> 00:52:07.289
does that flow apart a little bit
more often, like the whole not trying.
902
00:52:07.369 --> 00:52:08.929
I guess flows a wrong word.
Not Trying. It's hard because you
903
00:52:08.969 --> 00:52:13.929
can tell when Ben is really that's
mine engaged and he's jacking you up.
904
00:52:14.289 --> 00:52:16.440
Oh, you end up with your
feet all around when men turns it on.
905
00:52:16.760 --> 00:52:20.800
It's not real duck like, Oh
wow, he wants stap me out,
906
00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:23.119
I can tell them I can't move
anymore. Yeah, and you think,
907
00:52:23.159 --> 00:52:25.480
do you think that's like a Blue
Belt Blues? Because I was telling
908
00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:29.119
him kept the other day about having
a little bit of that, because they
909
00:52:30.750 --> 00:52:32.710
there's a time where I feel like
I'm advancing really, really quick, and
910
00:52:32.789 --> 00:52:37.429
then there's a time where I feel
like I'm stagnant and plateauing people, because
911
00:52:37.429 --> 00:52:39.030
people are getting better, like people
like hip that they have a lot to
912
00:52:39.110 --> 00:52:44.340
learn right away and then they just
get so much better really quick. But
913
00:52:44.420 --> 00:52:49.380
I'm I don't think I'm in that
stage of JIU Jitsu. So then I'm
914
00:52:49.659 --> 00:52:52.420
having problems with people that I used
to be able to just smash through.
915
00:52:52.579 --> 00:52:53.860
No, I can't anymore. What
do you think? You're on a problem
916
00:52:53.860 --> 00:52:57.659
with man with well, that's not
fair with us, though, Dude.
917
00:52:57.659 --> 00:53:00.650
I think to we've rolled so many
for yours. I know where he's going.
918
00:53:00.929 --> 00:53:02.969
The reason your plant, you feel
like your plateauing is because you're doing
919
00:53:04.010 --> 00:53:07.369
the exact same thing you've been doing
with with meal time, and I know
920
00:53:07.449 --> 00:53:09.650
where you're going. I trying to
do nothing new right. Yeah, it's
921
00:53:09.690 --> 00:53:14.079
yeah, I have my my goto
moves and, yeah, I have a
922
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:16.639
hard time expanding that, I suppose. Yeah, well, it's just I
923
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:20.400
think it goes back to what he
told you before. Yourself. Doubt is
924
00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:23.519
what stops you from trying new shit
because you watch it on Youtube and then
925
00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:29.150
you try it on me. Have
but most of the time failing. Where
926
00:53:29.230 --> 00:53:31.829
to the point where I have to
go what you doing? Where are you
927
00:53:31.909 --> 00:53:35.630
going if you see if you see
something a move you want to learn and
928
00:53:35.750 --> 00:53:39.750
you want to train and do,
just try to anybody the gym over and
929
00:53:39.789 --> 00:53:42.820
over again. If you don't get
in a one, keep trying another guy.
930
00:53:43.019 --> 00:53:45.619
Eventually you're going to hit it on
somebody because you're going to get a
931
00:53:45.619 --> 00:53:46.659
little bit better at it, a
little bit better at it's going to your
932
00:53:46.699 --> 00:53:50.380
time is going to get quicker,
it's going to get better and eventually going
933
00:53:50.420 --> 00:53:53.539
to start hitting more. So don't
just bail on a movie you want to
934
00:53:53.579 --> 00:53:57.210
learn. Just keep trying to hit
it over and over and over again.
935
00:53:57.210 --> 00:54:00.849
Yeah, that makes it n I
mean, Hmm. But yeah, I
936
00:54:01.090 --> 00:54:04.730
know exactly what you feel like when
you feel like your plateauing. Yeah,
937
00:54:04.769 --> 00:54:07.929
and that's why I when I when
I get that feeling, I it's like
938
00:54:08.250 --> 00:54:12.079
I got it's time to learn something. The new. All Right, I'm
939
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:15.840
having a really hard time with these
guys from guard. You know, they're
940
00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:19.280
defending a really easy you know,
they're the I can't seem to get nothing
941
00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:21.880
on them. I need to learn
something new from guard. I need to
942
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:23.349
learn different set up from guard in
order, maybe I want to I can't
943
00:54:23.349 --> 00:54:27.349
get these guys in just regular,
you know, just a triangle. Let
944
00:54:27.429 --> 00:54:29.429
me, I want to learn some
kind of different let me to learn a
945
00:54:29.429 --> 00:54:31.269
new set up to get to the
triangle. Now that throws you off,
946
00:54:31.389 --> 00:54:35.110
you know what I mean? Yeah, makes sense, and that's and I
947
00:54:35.190 --> 00:54:38.820
think that's that's probably the easiest thing
is, you know, keep learning.
948
00:54:39.059 --> 00:54:43.860
At the end of the day.
Don't like I everybody knows kind of my
949
00:54:43.940 --> 00:54:46.579
gotos. I think by now you
know I'm good side control, you know,
950
00:54:46.739 --> 00:54:51.340
getting some loop chokes and things like
that, and I don't know,
951
00:54:51.539 --> 00:54:53.050
I got a handful of moves.
I usually do it like on top side,
952
00:54:53.130 --> 00:54:58.210
things like that bottom. So I'm
trying to do different things, do
953
00:54:58.329 --> 00:55:02.449
different setups. As far as life
is you know, I've learned so many
954
00:55:02.489 --> 00:55:07.679
if I could remember, if I
remembered all the moves I've learned, it'd
955
00:55:07.719 --> 00:55:10.000
be awesome. Yeah, yeah,
there's just so many of them. It's
956
00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:14.559
just wonderful. Thousands of thousands of
moves. Love the sport. Yeah,
957
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:17.440
I mean, I really wish.
You know, I've got thousands of videos
958
00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:20.760
and, just like I said,
from when I started training back to those
959
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:22.670
six I got, you know,
videos are rob teaching, you know,
960
00:55:22.789 --> 00:55:27.070
it is, or different instructors that
I've trained with, Anto MC glassio,
961
00:55:28.789 --> 00:55:32.869
Tony Torresa Ponte, Pat Milletich when
I was at not pat man is school.
962
00:55:34.909 --> 00:55:37.780
So it's like I got different people
that I've got all these different videos
963
00:55:37.780 --> 00:55:40.260
from that. I can go through
my laptop right now and I got tons
964
00:55:40.300 --> 00:55:43.059
of stuff. You know, I
got tons of stuff, just crowler and
965
00:55:43.099 --> 00:55:45.940
I, you know, that stuff
that I probably don't even remember anymore.
966
00:55:45.940 --> 00:55:49.659
That can go back and flip through
and see. You know, he'll be
967
00:55:49.860 --> 00:55:52.289
bringing new to you. Yeah,
you know. So it's like there's so
968
00:55:52.489 --> 00:55:55.969
many moves that I've been shown,
you know, that I just don't remember
969
00:55:55.969 --> 00:55:59.929
anymore. And that's where you it
just takes study and just learning. You
970
00:56:00.010 --> 00:56:01.889
know where you having problem with?
Do you develop your own personal game and
971
00:56:01.889 --> 00:56:07.360
then try to like put moves that'll
fit into that game already? Try something
972
00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:12.400
just off the wall and new and
different just for fun? No, I
973
00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:15.320
try to develop my own game.
I think everybody is with your us.
974
00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:19.030
It's your own style Jiujitsu. There's
obviously things I'm not going to be able
975
00:56:19.030 --> 00:56:21.869
to do. And you know,
you know, six to them, two
976
00:56:21.869 --> 00:56:25.550
hundred and ten pounds. I'm not
going to be like been squirreling and gangling
977
00:56:25.630 --> 00:56:28.750
and like wear me all over the
place, you know, a big dude.
978
00:56:29.469 --> 00:56:32.460
So I try to focus on things
that work for my style. You
979
00:56:32.539 --> 00:56:37.500
know, I I've I got things
that I know I won't be able to
980
00:56:37.500 --> 00:56:38.420
build do. I got bad you
know, I got a bad back.
981
00:56:38.460 --> 00:56:40.300
Of that back surgery. You know, I've had a knee surgery, have
982
00:56:40.380 --> 00:56:46.170
at neck surgery, all military related, okay, but so there's things.
983
00:56:46.210 --> 00:56:50.489
I'm not a big I'm a shooting
for a double like takedown and pick this
984
00:56:50.530 --> 00:56:52.489
dude. I'm taking down the grounds. It's not my style, right.
985
00:56:52.849 --> 00:56:54.530
You know, I just had not
that I couldn't do it, it's just
986
00:56:54.610 --> 00:56:58.489
I'm not going to do it because
that why risk it. You know what
987
00:56:58.650 --> 00:57:00.639
some point, yeah, it's when
there's other options. Yeah, you know.
988
00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:04.039
Yeah, and I've seen people that
maybe their knees aren't there. They
989
00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:06.360
got screwed up, really screwed up
music. They can't even get them.
990
00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:08.320
They have a hard time putting people
in triangles, so they just don't do
991
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:10.679
it. You know, they do
other things. So you kind of develop
992
00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:15.280
your own style of Jiujitsu. I
believe you know things that your go the
993
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:17.670
yeah, you like that. Things
are easy for you to remember. You
994
00:57:17.750 --> 00:57:20.670
know, are you a top guy? You know, you're about new.
995
00:57:20.789 --> 00:57:23.909
I'm not. Also, I was
a big top player when I started because
996
00:57:23.909 --> 00:57:27.230
because, like I said, I
was like trying to haulk smash dude,
997
00:57:27.230 --> 00:57:30.699
right, and I figured way to
Hulk Smash being a yeah, yeah,
998
00:57:31.460 --> 00:57:37.099
and that's now I'd play a lot
of my back I can keep, I
999
00:57:37.179 --> 00:57:40.340
think, blue bit more control.
I'm not getting tired as quick and I
1000
00:57:40.420 --> 00:57:45.969
said, I got a you know, tons of different sweeps and submissions and
1001
00:57:45.010 --> 00:57:46.969
set ups. You know that I
can do just from that position, you
1002
00:57:47.010 --> 00:57:49.530
know, on top. You know, yeah, I'm smashing you. I
1003
00:57:49.570 --> 00:57:52.530
can smitch and things like that.
But it's also I'm a exertin energy to
1004
00:57:52.610 --> 00:57:54.489
try to kind of keep you down
and keeping it from not moving. And
1005
00:57:54.570 --> 00:57:57.730
if you move the I'm trying to
fight to stay them down in a position.
1006
00:57:57.769 --> 00:58:00.480
But if I find if I got
you my guard, you know,
1007
00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:01.760
I mean I can just I'm move
them, I'm using my legs, I'm
1008
00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:06.519
moving and keeping you off balance and
pushing you this way and pulling you that
1009
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:08.800
away and, you know, trying
to keep you flustered so I can try
1010
00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:12.519
to say something. I'm, instead
of just exert manager, going to stand
1011
00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:14.429
tiping a smash Mo neon belly.
Now I'm going to go to mount and
1012
00:58:14.469 --> 00:58:15.469
I'm going to spend a north south
and Yep, you know. So it's
1013
00:58:15.469 --> 00:58:20.869
like, you know, it's your
own style at the end of the day.
1014
00:58:21.269 --> 00:58:23.309
You know, there's a deal I've
noticed see. There's things I've seen
1015
00:58:23.829 --> 00:58:28.260
with all type of tall types of
Jiujitsu guys that I've trained with that you
1016
00:58:28.340 --> 00:58:30.940
can tell that they're in the position
where they want to be. That's their
1017
00:58:31.059 --> 00:58:34.619
go to, what they want to
wear, that where they want to be
1018
00:58:34.739 --> 00:58:37.460
in right. So, you know, yeah, especially a lot of smaller
1019
00:58:37.460 --> 00:58:40.019
guys. You see a lot of
smaller guys they want to be on their
1020
00:58:40.019 --> 00:58:43.929
back. Yeah, so they can't
get muscled as much. Yeah, they
1021
00:58:43.969 --> 00:58:45.570
can control the DICKT. They want
to dictate the pace and they want to
1022
00:58:45.570 --> 00:58:47.489
be on their back. You know, that's like Coraler, courl sities,
1023
00:58:47.489 --> 00:58:50.929
like I'm he's like a big guy, but I do small manage Jitsu and
1024
00:58:51.010 --> 00:58:52.730
he really does. You know,
that's pretty cool. He does small manage.
1025
00:58:52.769 --> 00:58:55.199
It's well, think about it,
those wrist locks and spinning around,
1026
00:58:55.239 --> 00:58:59.119
he's it is all little guy stuff. It's all stuff. You don't need
1027
00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:00.719
to be stronger than the person across
from you, right, you know,
1028
00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:05.840
and that's just you know, I've
tried giving coraler like everything. I've had,
1029
00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:08.639
like all muscle, all everything,
and I'm getting stopped, I'm getting
1030
00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:13.309
beat and I'm like yeah, Oh, yeah, and he's like you all
1031
00:59:13.349 --> 00:59:20.070
right, man, no settle,
you know. But yeah, I mean
1032
00:59:20.110 --> 00:59:22.949
I think, yeah, I think
working like like keys had, a small
1033
00:59:22.949 --> 00:59:28.500
man Jiujitsu keeps your composure, slows
you down, keeps you composed and to
1034
00:59:28.500 --> 00:59:31.860
where you're not all of a sudden
dying after sixty seconds into a roll.
1035
00:59:32.019 --> 00:59:35.739
There enough. Well, that's that's
why I struggle with you, not to
1036
00:59:35.860 --> 00:59:39.889
cut you off. Is and Justin
is. You both dropped your back and
1037
00:59:40.010 --> 00:59:45.449
you're obviously much stronger than I am
technique wise, on your back. I
1038
00:59:45.329 --> 00:59:51.809
hate going on top because I I
have like two or three I'm comfortable with.
1039
00:59:52.409 --> 00:59:55.480
Moves are going to work? Yeah, they are not going to work
1040
00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:59.360
on you. They still your game
from you. That's yeah, it's so
1041
00:59:59.480 --> 00:60:01.480
away. I told Justin I to
he laid back, like you're a Dick,
1042
00:60:02.039 --> 00:60:06.039
and he's looks at he's like what, what's that's what I like to
1043
00:60:06.079 --> 00:60:07.110
do. And he's like, Oh, you're good at Git. I'm like
1044
00:60:07.309 --> 00:60:10.670
no, I'm not, but what
thanks. That's why all the new people
1045
00:60:10.750 --> 00:60:14.230
like it when that fresh guy who
walks in the man and joins the gym
1046
00:60:14.269 --> 00:60:16.389
because yeah, sweet, now I
can start using these moves. I've been
1047
00:60:16.389 --> 00:60:19.590
learned that I can't seem to get
on anybody else, but I bet you
1048
00:60:19.630 --> 00:60:21.739
I can start hitting on this guy. You remember the first time that you
1049
00:60:21.820 --> 00:60:25.380
walked into a gym, the feeling
of everybody just ruining you? Yes,
1050
00:60:27.099 --> 00:60:30.860
the first time I walked into it
a gym, I just got back from
1051
00:60:30.860 --> 00:60:37.130
my rack. I was two thousand
and six and I wanted something to do,
1052
00:60:37.650 --> 00:60:39.650
Scud of something take up the time, and a brother in law,
1053
00:60:40.250 --> 00:60:44.690
Mike, was like hey, man, this the UFC was just kicking off
1054
00:60:44.730 --> 00:60:47.130
that ultimate Oh yeah. Ever,
when just gotta say, it was going
1055
00:60:47.210 --> 00:60:50.119
to be kind of a mainstream thing
and he was like man, this is
1056
00:60:50.119 --> 00:60:53.960
Jiu Jitsu. There's this Jiujitsu school. I'm like what Jitsu? And it
1057
00:60:54.000 --> 00:60:57.159
kind of like you hit too.
Yeah, I got it was kind of
1058
00:60:57.199 --> 00:60:59.239
like you and a kid. You
know, I did taekwondo and things like
1059
00:60:59.280 --> 00:61:01.199
that when I was a little and
oakanaw and Waichi Rou and things like.
1060
00:61:01.320 --> 00:61:04.590
I want to break boards and do
all these kinds. That was my jam.
1061
00:61:04.829 --> 00:61:09.190
Thought it was sweet. So I
went to this first Jiu Jitsu school
1062
00:61:09.389 --> 00:61:13.349
and I walked in the door and
before I walked in the door, all
1063
00:61:13.389 --> 00:61:15.750
the windows are all steamy. Yeah, Oh, yeah, like, oh,
1064
00:61:15.829 --> 00:61:20.179
man, what he and I walked
in. These dudes are running around,
1065
00:61:20.219 --> 00:61:22.500
they're sweat and they got these gys
on, like Holy Crab, and
1066
00:61:22.500 --> 00:61:23.420
I can I could feel it.
Oh yeah, it's no, yeah,
1067
00:61:23.460 --> 00:61:28.699
sticky and yeah, and one of
the guys, he was I can't remember
1068
00:61:28.699 --> 00:61:32.010
his name. He was a purple
belt. Gosh is. I think his
1069
00:61:32.050 --> 00:61:36.809
name is Brian. It wasn't.
He was a he was a camera police
1070
00:61:36.809 --> 00:61:38.329
officer, I believe, at the
time. And he walked up and he's
1071
00:61:38.369 --> 00:61:40.250
like Hey, I think wh names. I think his name is Brian.
1072
00:61:40.369 --> 00:61:45.610
I think my name's bread big.
My Name's Brian and I think his name
1073
00:61:45.650 --> 00:61:49.199
was Brian. He introduced himself and
I shook his hand and he's like hey,
1074
00:61:50.119 --> 00:61:51.400
you know you want to jump in. I was like, now,
1075
00:61:51.519 --> 00:61:53.239
I'm just here to check it out. I really don't own. In my
1076
00:61:53.320 --> 00:61:55.880
head I'm like man, you know
I kick that dude face, ha ha,
1077
00:61:58.519 --> 00:62:00.949
taekwondo when I was a kid,
and but not on I really.
1078
00:62:01.269 --> 00:62:06.269
But Oh yeah, he told me
I wasn't really comfortable with nice to watch
1079
00:62:06.309 --> 00:62:07.829
the train. They Maze Youse are
sweating all of each other and yes,
1080
00:62:08.429 --> 00:62:13.750
it's it's stinks in here and these
their keys are gross and there's grappling.
1081
00:62:13.829 --> 00:62:15.500
I was like man, it's now. They ain't for me. So I
1082
00:62:15.539 --> 00:62:22.500
left and then came back ack excited
to think about it. Came back agin
1083
00:62:22.699 --> 00:62:27.699
like a week later and walked in
and same guy. He's okay, I
1084
00:62:27.780 --> 00:62:29.460
was going. I was like yeah, I'm just I just want to watch
1085
00:62:29.500 --> 00:62:30.329
again. It's want to check it
out, and he's like no, he's
1086
00:62:30.369 --> 00:62:34.130
like, here's a key. Yeah, he made your twice get out there.
1087
00:62:34.369 --> 00:62:37.889
So I jumped out on the Mat
and yeah, thought it was a
1088
00:62:37.929 --> 00:62:40.889
tough guy and I just got murdered. And Yeah, I was like man,
1089
00:62:40.969 --> 00:62:45.400
this is awesome and one of my
buddy I met a guy there in
1090
00:62:45.440 --> 00:62:49.800
his name was hory Sarat. He
ended eventually becoming one of my really good
1091
00:62:49.800 --> 00:62:52.239
friends and still is to this day. He was a four stripe white belt
1092
00:62:52.599 --> 00:62:59.070
when I started training and he him
and I just kind of clicked and I
1093
00:62:59.190 --> 00:63:01.269
end up selling one of my had
a gun and I'm selling on my guns
1094
00:63:01.269 --> 00:63:06.030
I had for a few hundred bucks
and we went up to MC sports and
1095
00:63:06.070 --> 00:63:07.909
I bought all their black puzzle mess
they had in the whole place. Nice.
1096
00:63:09.309 --> 00:63:12.550
I laid him on the whole base
one of my house because back then
1097
00:63:12.670 --> 00:63:15.380
the place that we were training was
only open two days a week. Three
1098
00:63:15.380 --> 00:63:17.500
days a week. It was I
think it was Monday, Wednesday, Friday,
1099
00:63:17.539 --> 00:63:22.300
I think, was the class schedule. Hello, and so in between
1100
00:63:22.340 --> 00:63:24.980
Jory and I were rolling down on
my basement just beating the crap out of
1101
00:63:25.019 --> 00:63:28.170
he's I was moping for me,
but I'm trying to beat the crap.
1102
00:63:28.250 --> 00:63:30.289
I don't and he was smaller.
He was I don't know, maybe one
1103
00:63:30.489 --> 00:63:34.769
seventy. You know, I'm still
too at that time I was probably twenty
1104
00:63:34.769 --> 00:63:37.090
five, two years. Yeah,
it's got to be frustrated. How the
1105
00:63:37.170 --> 00:63:39.170
Hell I would? Oh, yeah, which sorcery are you using? He
1106
00:63:39.449 --> 00:63:45.440
was. Yeah, he was,
you was. It was amazing and we
1107
00:63:45.599 --> 00:63:47.760
try trained there with him for a
few months and I end up do my
1108
00:63:47.800 --> 00:63:52.559
first tournament about three months into Jiujitsu. Wow, yeah, wasted no time.
1109
00:63:52.719 --> 00:63:58.429
No, I went down him and
I went down to Indiana compete in
1110
00:63:58.429 --> 00:64:02.269
the WHO's your open in two thousand
and six and I think that was the
1111
00:64:02.349 --> 00:64:05.750
first year they did it down there. And we got there like nine o'clock
1112
00:64:05.750 --> 00:64:08.150
and more. We're all pumped up. I'm like yeah, you know,
1113
00:64:08.190 --> 00:64:11.980
we're going to clean the floor.
These dudes white belts and just, you
1114
00:64:12.019 --> 00:64:14.699
know, we just thought weird,
you know. Oh, yeah, we
1115
00:64:14.780 --> 00:64:17.219
were on the area when you so
we get down there like nine o'clock,
1116
00:64:17.219 --> 00:64:19.460
we weigh and I'm we're just waiting. We already got our keyes on ward,
1117
00:64:19.500 --> 00:64:23.420
all hyped up, but by I
don't know, five thirty, six
1118
00:64:23.420 --> 00:64:26.050
o'clock in the evening, when our
division finally popped up, we were the
1119
00:64:26.130 --> 00:64:30.170
energy level wasn't there. No more. You just want tacos. Yeah,
1120
00:64:30.090 --> 00:64:32.130
I was like, we got a
four and a half hour drive still home.
1121
00:64:32.170 --> 00:64:34.329
I like. So I was like
let's just get this thing going.
1122
00:64:34.730 --> 00:64:42.639
So I end up competing and wasn't
really comfort like really familiar with maybe I
1123
00:64:42.679 --> 00:64:46.639
should have cut weight. So I
end up in the super heavyweight division.
1124
00:64:46.960 --> 00:64:51.079
Holy what kind of monster did you
get this first dude, I wrote this
1125
00:64:51.239 --> 00:64:54.789
guy. I seen everybody out there. I was like man, watch,
1126
00:64:54.869 --> 00:64:56.630
I was like I just had that. Feels like it's going to be that
1127
00:64:56.710 --> 00:64:59.389
guy in me. And this dude
was like no neck, you know,
1128
00:65:00.869 --> 00:65:04.150
for foot wide shoulders. He's like
a tall rob bowers. Yeah, you
1129
00:65:04.190 --> 00:65:09.019
got to be kidding me. And
actually got I think I got some pictures
1130
00:65:09.019 --> 00:65:13.300
of that tournament to at the house
somewhere. He tried to get me a
1131
00:65:13.900 --> 00:65:16.460
couple times. Tried to Smith with
Americana things like that. I had a
1132
00:65:16.460 --> 00:65:20.530
muscling out. He had me in
America side control and I up bridging.
1133
00:65:21.050 --> 00:65:24.650
He was really loose and of bridging
and rolling over and get side control on
1134
00:65:24.690 --> 00:65:29.650
him and we kind of just flip
flop background. Yeah, it was weird.
1135
00:65:30.050 --> 00:65:33.849
Ridge Bridge really hard and just jump
like kind of flipped over him and
1136
00:65:35.159 --> 00:65:39.519
going to go back forth. The
end of beat me by three points and
1137
00:65:39.639 --> 00:65:43.639
then I competed again and the next
round, because it was double elimination,
1138
00:65:44.000 --> 00:65:46.079
okay, and computer next round and
I'm getting a guy in a arm bar.
1139
00:65:46.599 --> 00:65:48.360
Sounds like oh sweet. You know, I hit my first arm bar
1140
00:65:48.400 --> 00:65:51.750
in the tournament Nice. And then
I went to compete first, third place
1141
00:65:53.309 --> 00:65:57.550
and and I'm getting beaten by an
arm bar. Yeah, Po, I
1142
00:65:57.670 --> 00:66:00.829
like just, yeah, but it
would know it was fun. whorey ended
1143
00:66:00.829 --> 00:66:02.550
up competeing after me. Shortly after
he end I'm getting first in his division.
1144
00:66:02.630 --> 00:66:05.059
Nice. So yeah, we brag
all the home, like at basic,
1145
00:66:05.059 --> 00:66:09.380
look what I got. Held that
arm per feel. I still got
1146
00:66:09.420 --> 00:66:12.179
that metal. It's actually hanging on
the thing where all those all the metals,
1147
00:66:12.219 --> 00:66:15.300
a suckle. He gave it to
me. But yeah, so we
1148
00:66:15.340 --> 00:66:17.300
drove home about four and a half
hours just, you know, high on
1149
00:66:17.420 --> 00:66:23.289
life. You know, I can't
wait till the next tournament. And got
1150
00:66:23.369 --> 00:66:26.730
back and then joy wanted to start
fighting. You want to start doing MMA.
1151
00:66:27.289 --> 00:66:30.650
So Friday, every Friday, Rob
Masco was teaching straight, just straight
1152
00:66:30.690 --> 00:66:35.280
Um and make class okay, and
start training with him more MMA. Wanted
1153
00:66:35.320 --> 00:66:39.320
to fight. Yeah, it's kind
of got out of the Gui Jiujitsu thing
1154
00:66:39.440 --> 00:66:43.119
and left the school I was at. There was just straight Gi Jiu Jitsu
1155
00:66:43.199 --> 00:66:46.079
and rob masking up open his own
school and I was with him for a
1156
00:66:46.150 --> 00:66:49.789
few years and it was, like
I said, it was like it was
1157
00:66:49.909 --> 00:66:57.869
fight club. It was there was
no real there was no real set program
1158
00:66:58.269 --> 00:67:00.989
or schedule. It was like all
right, we get it was all Noogie.
1159
00:67:00.030 --> 00:67:02.579
There was never it was never.
We never worgy. It was all
1160
00:67:02.659 --> 00:67:04.860
our every day. You bring your
head gear, you bring your mouth beace,
1161
00:67:04.980 --> 00:67:10.300
boxing up sighs and magloves and we'd
warm up, we do some drills
1162
00:67:10.340 --> 00:67:12.380
and it was our right. Guys
were sparn put your head here on you
1163
00:67:12.460 --> 00:67:14.179
and you go, you and you
go and you, you go, and
1164
00:67:14.659 --> 00:67:17.530
it was like that's all. It
was every single day and you did every
1165
00:67:17.530 --> 00:67:21.449
day. Yeah, home it was
every sime. Did you stay healthy?
1166
00:67:23.210 --> 00:67:26.570
I mean I was twenty six years
old. That helps out. Yeah,
1167
00:67:26.570 --> 00:67:29.809
that definitely helps. I was young, don't get me wrong. I got
1168
00:67:29.889 --> 00:67:32.119
beat up, you know, and
things like that, but it was fun.
1169
00:67:32.199 --> 00:67:35.079
It's time you did better to me, because when I trained it was
1170
00:67:35.280 --> 00:67:38.960
one day a week. I was
the best guy there that still didn't know
1171
00:67:39.079 --> 00:67:44.710
anything and decided cage fight sounds like
fun. Luckily it was. It was.
1172
00:67:45.309 --> 00:67:48.110
That just wasn't popular because, yeah, it was two thousand and eight.
1173
00:67:48.389 --> 00:67:51.110
I think I did that. So
yeah, just wasn't popular enough for
1174
00:67:51.150 --> 00:67:54.949
enough good people to go there and
do them. So I just got lucky.
1175
00:67:54.989 --> 00:67:58.429
Yeah, it was fun. I
think what you fight, I on
1176
00:67:58.510 --> 00:68:01.059
your free fairs. Yeah, there's
a couple of good guys are they had
1177
00:68:01.099 --> 00:68:03.619
teams. I don't know where they
are from. But when guy had tattoos,
1178
00:68:03.699 --> 00:68:06.099
you know, tribal tattoos all over, and he looked like o'donnis.
1179
00:68:06.780 --> 00:68:11.900
He looked like Jesse on steroids.
Tribal Tattoos all over. Jesse fought at
1180
00:68:13.530 --> 00:68:18.210
was it marn drag way from the
High Carbo? Something a fair out there.
1181
00:68:18.569 --> 00:68:24.409
Jesse fought out there, fought this
dude and it wented like it was
1182
00:68:24.529 --> 00:68:29.199
three rounds of Jesse basically blocking punches
with his face. Oh No, and
1183
00:68:29.359 --> 00:68:31.239
finally Jesse's on his back and whips
out a triangle and dude finally beast of
1184
00:68:31.279 --> 00:68:35.199
doing like the middle third. Shit. Wow, that's awesome. Yeah,
1185
00:68:35.279 --> 00:68:40.520
this said, this tribal up tattooed
guy, he was beating the brakes off
1186
00:68:40.840 --> 00:68:44.949
his opponent's opponent look like any dad
you'd see, you know, kind of
1187
00:68:44.989 --> 00:68:46.229
beard, Gut, the normal guy. Yeah, just look at a normal
1188
00:68:46.229 --> 00:68:49.829
dude and he did a double lock
takedown. It was I mean he was
1189
00:68:49.829 --> 00:68:53.270
hitting him. You can kind of
feel it in the crowd, like you
1190
00:68:53.350 --> 00:68:57.220
could feel the punches landing on that
guy from the crowd and the guy threw
1191
00:68:57.260 --> 00:69:00.659
up an armbar and in caught him. Oh Oh yeah, yeah, it
1192
00:69:00.739 --> 00:69:03.140
was one minute in the first round. Nice. Well, he came out
1193
00:69:03.220 --> 00:69:09.979
like just bloodied, but he won
one buyer bar. Oh Yeah. Well,
1194
00:69:10.010 --> 00:69:11.329
we've been a cup be in a
couple of those. We had a
1195
00:69:11.329 --> 00:69:13.649
couple guys fight out there before.
Back in the day, things like that.
1196
00:69:13.729 --> 00:69:17.289
It was smallers shows when it was
kind of not a really big it
1197
00:69:17.369 --> 00:69:21.930
was almost underground, like kid borderline
underground. How is this legal? We
1198
00:69:23.050 --> 00:69:26.880
used to drive out of state in
order to fight because there was no fights
1199
00:69:26.920 --> 00:69:30.119
in Michigan. So we have really
good at know that dribed out like Indiana
1200
00:69:30.159 --> 00:69:32.279
and a high okay fight. Ah, so it's like fireworks. Yeah,
1201
00:69:33.239 --> 00:69:40.430
I remember or Hay's first fight.
It was like in a am vets and
1202
00:69:40.510 --> 00:69:44.149
they can still smoke. It's still
smoke inside. That's awesome. This this
1203
00:69:44.430 --> 00:69:51.029
the cage was is maybe maybe ten
feet across. Oh, so it's more
1204
00:69:51.069 --> 00:69:55.659
of a like a cock fight.
Yeah, you can't run. Sorry,
1205
00:69:55.699 --> 00:69:57.939
yeah, there's no running here.
You get up in the cage and I
1206
00:69:58.060 --> 00:70:00.659
stood in the cage and I would
my head was probably maybe two feet from
1207
00:70:00.699 --> 00:70:04.659
in this hitting the ceiling and the
cigarette smoke was straight eye level. Oh,
1208
00:70:05.779 --> 00:70:09.010
so soon you got in the cage
it was your breathing heavy, know,
1209
00:70:09.210 --> 00:70:12.210
you just sucking Nicke it T.
yeah, it was horrible. I'm
1210
00:70:12.250 --> 00:70:15.170
not a smoker, but I am
today. Yeah, it was crazy.
1211
00:70:15.210 --> 00:70:17.609
It's lost ten years, a life
by cage, by him. That's it
1212
00:70:17.770 --> 00:70:19.850
was rough, but it was it
was funny. You know, it's something
1213
00:70:19.890 --> 00:70:23.119
we did back then. You know, a big group of US go down
1214
00:70:23.199 --> 00:70:27.399
and fight, you know, and
kind of did that for a couple of
1215
00:70:27.439 --> 00:70:30.880
years and then finally kind of start
getting bigger in Michigan and a lot of
1216
00:70:30.960 --> 00:70:33.279
guys I kind of stopped doing a
lot of guys started doing in Michigan more
1217
00:70:33.319 --> 00:70:36.310
and you know, that's cool.
So so, did you ever play sports
1218
00:70:36.350 --> 00:70:42.710
at all? I played. I
played tea ball when I was a kid.
1219
00:70:42.829 --> 00:70:45.829
So am I the only one of
the gym that played sports all growing
1220
00:70:45.869 --> 00:70:48.470
up? I played football in my
freshman year. That was it. That
1221
00:70:48.630 --> 00:70:51.500
was it. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, see, I played sports since
1222
00:70:51.539 --> 00:70:54.460
I was fine. So you were
in karate, though, right. I
1223
00:70:54.619 --> 00:70:57.579
started as a case started. He's
moved on for me. Thanks. That
1224
00:70:57.699 --> 00:71:02.500
never give us good looking out.
I start Tak wind and seventh eighth grade
1225
00:71:02.539 --> 00:71:05.489
maybe Nice. You know, it
was just local at the High School in
1226
00:71:05.609 --> 00:71:10.930
gym for a little bit and then
we moved a lot. We moved a
1227
00:71:11.050 --> 00:71:14.250
lot when I was a kid.
I don't think we ever stayed one place
1228
00:71:14.250 --> 00:71:15.890
for over a year here, so
it was kind of hit and miss.
1229
00:71:16.130 --> 00:71:20.560
How pissed were you when Hoist Gracie
won the UFC, because the Kung Fu
1230
00:71:20.680 --> 00:71:27.119
guy clearly should have won? You
know, I didn't see the best question
1231
00:71:27.279 --> 00:71:30.520
on your list. I didn't see
any of the UFC's. I moved here
1232
00:71:30.520 --> 00:71:31.640
to grand raps. One thousand nine
hundred and ninety six. No, Shit,
1233
00:71:31.760 --> 00:71:35.430
really, wow, that shit.
When I was a kid. Oh,
1234
00:71:35.590 --> 00:71:40.029
I watched UFC two and then I
had to go back and, you
1235
00:71:40.109 --> 00:71:42.310
know, try to get copies of
the verse one. Yeah, looking at
1236
00:71:42.310 --> 00:71:45.310
this little Brazilian guy beating the shit
out of people. That should have been
1237
00:71:45.390 --> 00:71:47.699
my hero. Yeah, and I'm
going. I was so mad, it's
1238
00:71:47.699 --> 00:71:50.500
like it my whole life was a
lie, because I wanted to be Bruce
1239
00:71:50.539 --> 00:71:55.220
Lee. You know, I thinking
that's legit. You know, I'm Nope,
1240
00:71:55.260 --> 00:72:00.659
nope. They got just tore up. I just remember how crazy it
1241
00:72:00.779 --> 00:72:05.569
was. That style just that's all
they ever talked about is how it wouldn't
1242
00:72:05.569 --> 00:72:09.449
work. It wouldn't work. Don't
know how hois is doing. It is
1243
00:72:09.529 --> 00:72:14.970
like, well, just watch.
I lived in denial easy until somebody you
1244
00:72:15.130 --> 00:72:17.119
just suit me and I'm like crap, because I thought the same thing.
1245
00:72:17.239 --> 00:72:20.199
Like I walked in my first gym
and I sized everybody up the same as
1246
00:72:20.239 --> 00:72:24.399
you, like, yeah, this
is gonna be easy, and literally everybody
1247
00:72:24.399 --> 00:72:27.880
man handled me, including a girl. No, yeah, yeah, which
1248
00:72:28.000 --> 00:72:30.069
is not surprising, but it's just
fun to say. Yeah, there's a
1249
00:72:30.390 --> 00:72:33.750
there's a young lady smaller than Morgan
and our fresh blue belt, and yeah,
1250
00:72:33.869 --> 00:72:36.670
my Song Want Abby Abbey. Yeah, I know why. Yeah,
1251
00:72:36.670 --> 00:72:41.390
anytime my arm got past thirty degree, she just aren't bar me or triangle
1252
00:72:41.510 --> 00:72:44.109
me, and I didn't know what
that was going on. I wonder if
1253
00:72:44.109 --> 00:72:46.060
she's still and I'd like to see
her in Morgan Roll. I think abby's
1254
00:72:46.100 --> 00:72:48.779
a purple belt now. She was
lass. I knew because when I came
1255
00:72:48.819 --> 00:72:50.539
back, when I got out of
the army in two thousand and ten.
1256
00:72:50.619 --> 00:72:55.539
I end up training at their school
where she was at okay, for that's
1257
00:72:55.579 --> 00:72:57.539
where I was at about a year
in half and then they're started an.
1258
00:72:57.579 --> 00:72:59.210
I fell out. But yeah,
I knew hobby, I knew all those
1259
00:72:59.210 --> 00:73:01.850
guys and she was cool. She
was kind of just the same as Morgan.
1260
00:73:01.970 --> 00:73:04.529
Just don't dream like a girl.
Yeah, she saw my Gosh,
1261
00:73:04.609 --> 00:73:09.449
gets mad if you even get close
to that, and it become because of
1262
00:73:09.449 --> 00:73:12.729
interesting to watch her and Morgan get
at it. Absolutely Morgan's got some skin.
1263
00:73:12.960 --> 00:73:15.840
People that Oh, super fight,
let's set it up. They would
1264
00:73:15.880 --> 00:73:19.600
he martan's got some skills, unless
you try, like when she was we
1265
00:73:19.760 --> 00:73:24.319
ran into to her last tournament where
she got kind of muscled. Is What
1266
00:73:24.479 --> 00:73:26.800
it looked like. When I watched
ideo kicked in the face. What?
1267
00:73:27.000 --> 00:73:30.029
Twice? What did? She got
slammed. Didn't I show you. My
1268
00:73:30.149 --> 00:73:31.949
wife got the video. I'd say, oh my gosh, dude's got slam.
1269
00:73:32.069 --> 00:73:36.989
Dude, yeah, they're like three
times. It was bad and I
1270
00:73:38.109 --> 00:73:40.949
watch a little bit of video and
I just it just pissed me off.
1271
00:73:40.989 --> 00:73:44.140
So same here Jen was watching is
like all that's bad. I'm like,
1272
00:73:44.180 --> 00:73:45.460
I can't watch it. She's like
why? I'm like, that's bullshit.
1273
00:73:45.460 --> 00:73:48.699
You have is good enough for reps
to keep the fighter safe. Otherwise,
1274
00:73:48.779 --> 00:73:51.899
don't and look at how she ended
up. That's not our Morgan. Morgan
1275
00:73:51.979 --> 00:73:57.449
defends herself more than like. First
and foremost, Morgan defends herself right,
1276
00:73:57.649 --> 00:74:00.569
you're not going to get that kind
of damage defending yourself unless somebody's just being
1277
00:74:00.609 --> 00:74:05.090
a freaking ass. But I she
said the girls really nice, but there's
1278
00:74:05.090 --> 00:74:09.369
a big difference between nice and well, yeah, who the hell you roll
1279
00:74:09.609 --> 00:74:12.119
and how you roll. There's nice
people that I don't like rolling with.
1280
00:74:12.279 --> 00:74:15.960
Yeah, I can be your best
friend. I'm sitting right here. Fuck,
1281
00:74:15.560 --> 00:74:19.760
how did you know get a asshole
that just with that? That girls
1282
00:74:19.800 --> 00:74:24.630
should definitely should have got D cut. And that's kind of I feel bad
1283
00:74:24.750 --> 00:74:28.510
not being a be there and saying
something, but that just kind of it.
1284
00:74:28.949 --> 00:74:31.229
It kind of sucks because when stuff
like that happens, it makes me
1285
00:74:31.310 --> 00:74:35.710
feel like this, that her opponent
maybe knew the referee or, you know,
1286
00:74:35.829 --> 00:74:40.460
things like yeah, something. Yeah, I know that Shanna competed at
1287
00:74:40.500 --> 00:74:45.340
the Michigan Open Two thousand and fifteen. That's when I took I took first
1288
00:74:45.380 --> 00:74:53.090
at purple and she was competing for
first place and she was in this girl's
1289
00:74:53.130 --> 00:74:58.210
guard and the girls said up to
grab Morgan's, Shanna's collar and more or
1290
00:74:58.250 --> 00:75:00.170
Shannon just kind of shoved her back
down to the ground and the REF stood
1291
00:75:00.170 --> 00:75:02.409
up in d cut right there.
You shouldn't Ma said it was she slammer
1292
00:75:02.489 --> 00:75:06.090
down the ground, but I got
the video, but the referee was that
1293
00:75:06.159 --> 00:75:10.479
girl's coach. Are You freaking kidding
me? Shit, why would you want
1294
00:75:10.479 --> 00:75:13.520
to win that way? Like,
yeah, I give you dcute me.
1295
00:75:13.640 --> 00:75:15.000
I would be like if I got
a DQ against me, I'll be like
1296
00:75:15.039 --> 00:75:17.600
it, is that serious, because
let's go. Yeah, like, I
1297
00:75:18.119 --> 00:75:20.789
I got the video you gave me
saying the girl at girl stands up,
1298
00:75:20.789 --> 00:75:23.670
runs around her hands. I'm like
Je, like, you're going to be
1299
00:75:23.710 --> 00:75:26.949
happy for that? Yeah, didn't
say nothing to me. Yeah, come
1300
00:75:27.029 --> 00:75:30.189
on now. It was just crazy, right. But yeah, it's that's
1301
00:75:30.189 --> 00:75:33.109
the only sucks about competing. Sometimes
a lot of the people that are hosting
1302
00:75:33.189 --> 00:75:36.500
the tournament, their people are in
it, you know. So it's like,
1303
00:75:36.699 --> 00:75:40.100
you know, they're referee in their
own students. That's some bullshit,
1304
00:75:40.220 --> 00:75:42.779
you know. So it's just stupid. Jad, it was that one of
1305
00:75:42.779 --> 00:75:45.340
the first ones I rolled with.
She's funny shit. Watch. Yeah,
1306
00:75:45.420 --> 00:75:48.619
she's a hundred miles and a hundred
miles an hour. Although we were doing
1307
00:75:48.859 --> 00:75:51.409
guard passing. He saw right do
guy passing. So she was by my
1308
00:75:51.609 --> 00:75:57.210
partner and I tried to pass her
guard. I'm like this isn't happening.
1309
00:75:58.329 --> 00:76:00.810
Wow, it's really tough. She's
taught and she doesn't you. She's strong
1310
00:76:00.890 --> 00:76:03.289
and Shit, but she doesn't really
use her strength too much. He uses
1311
00:76:03.319 --> 00:76:06.640
it to for speed more n her, her niece, slice is legit is
1312
00:76:06.920 --> 00:76:10.600
well good. Yeah, I was
impressed. I don't know where she much
1313
00:76:10.640 --> 00:76:13.039
usually comes a morning classly, but
she has been about them. Love.
1314
00:76:13.199 --> 00:76:15.960
Yeah, she's pretty busy. That
wasn't you doing all kinds of she's got
1315
00:76:15.039 --> 00:76:19.590
like seventeen kids or's yeah, for
whatever. I think for kids. And
1316
00:76:19.630 --> 00:76:23.310
then she starts. You want to
do something. She's trying to start like
1317
00:76:23.390 --> 00:76:30.149
a gosh kind of like I've just
a I got center for kids or something
1318
00:76:30.189 --> 00:76:32.140
like that. Okay, you know
something like that, and I think then
1319
00:76:32.180 --> 00:76:35.779
the Hudsonville kind of area. Okay, strange, I can see you're doing
1320
00:76:35.819 --> 00:76:39.020
some trying to start some kind of
group for kids. I'm sure my wife
1321
00:76:39.060 --> 00:76:43.260
knows about it. They became like
they rolled together on those morning classes.
1322
00:76:43.420 --> 00:76:45.420
Oh yeah, so and then Jen
stopped going. Yeah, it seems that
1323
00:76:45.539 --> 00:76:50.369
a week later Shay stop going.
So it was like yeah, yeah,
1324
00:76:50.409 --> 00:76:55.689
there's only there was only like three
dudes there this morning. Yeah, it
1325
00:76:55.810 --> 00:76:59.409
was Nate Ryan and then a new
guy showed up from another school and wanted
1326
00:76:59.409 --> 00:77:01.960
to train work out for a little
bit. That was it, and Tuesday
1327
00:77:02.000 --> 00:77:06.800
it was just nate and Justin.
So it was it was. It's just
1328
00:77:08.039 --> 00:77:11.840
wants been slow. Jen wants to
be there. It's just she can't.
1329
00:77:12.640 --> 00:77:15.229
She works so damn much and so
hard. She's exhausted, but she's like
1330
00:77:15.510 --> 00:77:18.069
she felt bad for not going.
She's like to think trouble, give me
1331
00:77:18.189 --> 00:77:23.229
crappling. Oh Yeah, Oh yeah, is Oh, like yeah, I
1332
00:77:23.390 --> 00:77:27.750
was injured, and he's like where
yet? So yeah, but yeah,
1333
00:77:27.909 --> 00:77:32.340
he doesn't mean it, but a
little bit. So what would you say
1334
00:77:32.340 --> 00:77:35.739
to somebody that's thinking about quitting?
Because everybody has that thought. Like they're
1335
00:77:35.779 --> 00:77:40.460
injured there they got the Bluebell Blues. They don't feel like they're breggor par
1336
00:77:40.579 --> 00:77:43.340
is bad as me. Right,
they suck really bad, like Kip,
1337
00:77:43.460 --> 00:77:46.810
you know something you know, because
I think it's struck us all at one
1338
00:77:46.890 --> 00:77:49.250
point. And tell you. So, what do you say that to the
1339
00:77:49.289 --> 00:77:51.970
person that maybe is on the fence? I mean, why do you want
1340
00:77:51.970 --> 00:77:55.609
to quit? I think be the
first thing I ask you. You know,
1341
00:77:55.649 --> 00:77:58.329
if somebody came as I'm one to
think about Quinn and bike, why?
1342
00:77:59.399 --> 00:78:01.039
And you know it's you know,
we're moving, you know, something
1343
00:78:01.079 --> 00:78:03.239
like that. Yeah, I guess
you got to quit. or or if
1344
00:78:03.279 --> 00:78:06.279
it's like a money thing, you
know we can work something out to where
1345
00:78:06.560 --> 00:78:11.359
you know we can make it work
for you as far as money. If
1346
00:78:11.399 --> 00:78:15.590
it's you're having the you know,
your plateau and you feel like you're not
1347
00:78:15.590 --> 00:78:17.789
getting any better, that's gonna that's
gonna Happen. It happened to me,
1348
00:78:18.510 --> 00:78:20.909
you know. Oh, I've only
been in a year and it did.
1349
00:78:21.149 --> 00:78:24.470
You know, the only thing I
can say is keep if you like doing
1350
00:78:24.510 --> 00:78:28.739
Jiujitsu and you enjoy training, don't
stop. I mean I can I know
1351
00:78:28.859 --> 00:78:31.460
it's easy to say and it's a
lot harder to do, because I've been
1352
00:78:31.500 --> 00:78:36.739
there. I've wanted to quit dozens
of times, but then I find myself
1353
00:78:38.380 --> 00:78:41.380
like I need it, I need
to go work out, I need I
1354
00:78:41.449 --> 00:78:44.409
need that physical exertion, you know, and just getting sweaty and working out
1355
00:78:44.409 --> 00:78:46.529
with guys at school and just kind
of forgetting about everything that happened during the
1356
00:78:46.529 --> 00:78:50.850
day and just focus on Jiu Jitsu. You know, if you want to
1357
00:78:50.890 --> 00:78:55.210
quit, you know, at the
end of the day, I can't make
1358
00:78:55.250 --> 00:78:58.079
up your mind for you, you
know, but if you like doing it
1359
00:78:58.760 --> 00:79:02.239
and you're having some problems, just
try to keep pushing through, you know.
1360
00:79:02.319 --> 00:79:04.239
But ultimate at the end of the
day it's your decision. You know.
1361
00:79:04.399 --> 00:79:09.079
Yeah, fair enough. So what
if you're really old and just keep
1362
00:79:09.079 --> 00:79:13.869
hurting yourself for a bitterly? Because
that's me. No excuses, I think.
1363
00:79:13.869 --> 00:79:15.869
Let's keep hurting myself over and over. Yeah, the only reason you're
1364
00:79:15.869 --> 00:79:19.989
hurting yourself, I think, is
because you're either fighting out of a lot
1365
00:79:20.029 --> 00:79:24.859
of bad things and you're letting your
you're getting hurt because you're not. You're
1366
00:79:24.859 --> 00:79:28.260
not, you're you're let your getting
putting bad positions, for one. I
1367
00:79:28.340 --> 00:79:30.460
mean when you started, just to
your body's going to get banged up.
1368
00:79:30.460 --> 00:79:31.899
Oh Yeah, there, and I
went through that, I did. But
1369
00:79:32.060 --> 00:79:36.899
now it's more I'm Tru I just
never recovered from my accident because Paul can.
1370
00:79:38.380 --> 00:79:41.369
I've listened to Paul a ton because
he'd pretty much his hammers home,
1371
00:79:41.449 --> 00:79:44.970
whatever you've told me. Yeah,
and I don't really push very hard with
1372
00:79:45.010 --> 00:79:46.770
anybody anymore. I just have a
good time, want to make sure the
1373
00:79:46.850 --> 00:79:50.609
role and learn something while I'm doing
it. So I'm good there, but
1374
00:79:51.050 --> 00:79:55.720
she's opiqued my next Jack, so
I end up defending that in this jerk
1375
00:79:55.800 --> 00:79:59.600
off over here. F aaking Oh, I only go left. Well,
1376
00:79:59.640 --> 00:80:02.279
that's my bad side, and he
just abuses shit. I got my smart
1377
00:80:02.359 --> 00:80:05.640
side, my dumb side. I'm
sorry, Kitty, and you're smart side
1378
00:80:05.840 --> 00:80:12.949
fucks up my friend bad side.
So for me I had to listen to
1379
00:80:13.029 --> 00:80:16.069
you finally because you're like stop,
just stop, if you're hurt, take
1380
00:80:16.149 --> 00:80:18.670
time off, for you're going to
be off that much longer because I'm not
1381
00:80:18.789 --> 00:80:23.619
hurting. Like yeah, I'm getting
bruised, but I don't really. It's
1382
00:80:23.699 --> 00:80:27.100
Bruce. You can run into people, but I'm not getting injured. It's
1383
00:80:27.140 --> 00:80:30.699
just my classical and my fucking neck
are still stupid. Oh yeah, I
1384
00:80:30.739 --> 00:80:33.020
mean I I still get don't get
wrong, I still get hurt. Oh
1385
00:80:33.060 --> 00:80:34.930
Yeah, a bunch of Bue,
like I got a bad I got a
1386
00:80:35.010 --> 00:80:39.010
bad neck. You know, I
got pinched nerves. You know, my
1387
00:80:39.050 --> 00:80:41.210
right arm goes on once in a
while. No, yeah, my thumbs
1388
00:80:41.250 --> 00:80:44.050
and Numb all the time. That's, you know, just previous. You
1389
00:80:44.090 --> 00:80:45.770
know, being in the military for
so long, you know, I just
1390
00:80:45.850 --> 00:80:47.210
kind of got beat up. You
know, when I was in there,
1391
00:80:47.250 --> 00:80:50.920
you don't being doing what I did. It was, you know, you're
1392
00:80:50.920 --> 00:80:54.560
wearing body armor and you know you're
on the ground. And what did you
1393
00:80:54.600 --> 00:80:57.680
do in the army? I was
an infantry. Oh Wow, yeah,
1394
00:80:57.880 --> 00:81:00.800
for sure, carrying, I think
what all my gear on? I was
1395
00:81:00.880 --> 00:81:04.869
probably I bet you I was over
three hundred pounds, carrying my old Lord
1396
00:81:04.949 --> 00:81:08.430
I am, all my basic loading
my body on, my Kevlar, my
1397
00:81:08.510 --> 00:81:11.470
mask, my weapon, you know, everything I needed, you know,
1398
00:81:11.590 --> 00:81:14.510
to get through the day, you
know. And then I was even a
1399
00:81:14.550 --> 00:81:15.270
little bit bigger. I was always
when I was in the arm I was
1400
00:81:15.270 --> 00:81:18.300
always walking around right about to twenty
to twenty five. So you're bigger here.
1401
00:81:18.340 --> 00:81:21.260
That's a that's a big bill.
That's for your build. That's big.
1402
00:81:21.340 --> 00:81:25.020
Yeah, you know, and your
you figure your vest is forty five
1403
00:81:25.060 --> 00:81:27.699
pounds. You kevl our helmet,
you know, it's probably around eight.
1404
00:81:28.140 --> 00:81:30.260
And then you got your basic load. You know you're carrying. If you're
1405
00:81:30.260 --> 00:81:31.859
carrying. I'm sixteen, you're caring
two hundred and twenty rounds. You carrying.
1406
00:81:32.010 --> 00:81:35.890
I was saw gun her, so
I carry carried six, six hundred
1407
00:81:35.890 --> 00:81:40.090
rounds on me. She said,
she and that the SA Ain't small.
1408
00:81:40.489 --> 00:81:43.449
No, holy hit, that's a
big gun. Yeah, you know so.
1409
00:81:44.569 --> 00:81:46.439
And it's not that I had to
carry that much. That much ammo.
1410
00:81:47.439 --> 00:81:50.319
Usually have you two hundred around drum
on your rifle and you maybe carryn
1411
00:81:50.319 --> 00:81:54.359
extra drum. Then you got another
guy when you rather have too much that.
1412
00:81:54.720 --> 00:81:58.319
No, no, that's kind of
hard, man. If I can,
1413
00:81:58.399 --> 00:82:00.319
if I can carry this much that
I'm going to have it right on
1414
00:82:00.399 --> 00:82:02.470
me. Yeah, because you know
we'd have other guys in the squad,
1415
00:82:02.510 --> 00:82:05.750
you know, carry extra. You
know drums are too for nine Amal.
1416
00:82:08.149 --> 00:82:10.350
But I was like, screw it, I'm just going to carry myself that
1417
00:82:10.390 --> 00:82:13.869
way. I got it just case. Doesn't surprise me at all. More,
1418
00:82:14.470 --> 00:82:15.500
I'm not. I'm not mad at
that. Like now, I don't
1419
00:82:15.539 --> 00:82:17.979
care. It's going to be in
a person. But so, you know,
1420
00:82:18.100 --> 00:82:19.659
I think that took a big toll
on me. You know, we
1421
00:82:19.699 --> 00:82:23.260
used to do a lot of being
a military being, doing a lot of
1422
00:82:23.260 --> 00:82:24.859
physical stuf. We're doing a lot
of road marks. As you know,
1423
00:82:24.899 --> 00:82:27.300
you're on your feet, you know
all. You know we're repelling, you
1424
00:82:27.340 --> 00:82:29.380
know, we're jumping out of things, you know we're hitting the ground hard
1425
00:82:29.380 --> 00:82:30.289
and it's just, you know,
being an infatory, it's night, it's
1426
00:82:30.289 --> 00:82:35.489
a it's a young man's occupation.
How many times you think yourself, I
1427
00:82:35.529 --> 00:82:42.050
should have joined the coastguard? I
don't think those ever. Those ever came
1428
00:82:42.050 --> 00:82:47.359
across my mind. About the Nave
Air Force, name. Now I'm a
1429
00:82:47.439 --> 00:82:50.960
proud I was proud. I'm proud
to be be to serve in the United
1430
00:82:50.960 --> 00:82:54.199
States army. That's probesome. You
know, should be. Well, thank
1431
00:82:54.239 --> 00:82:56.640
you for your service. I appreciate
that. I appreciate it. Thanks.
1432
00:82:57.039 --> 00:83:00.029
It's awesome. Do you wish you
had you Jitsu when you were serving?
1433
00:83:00.350 --> 00:83:02.029
Like, would that have helped you
out with it been more fun? Absolutely,
1434
00:83:02.069 --> 00:83:04.510
yeah, yeah, because we used
to do we used to getting we
1435
00:83:04.510 --> 00:83:08.670
used to go to these giant rubber
pits. Oh yeah, and we did.
1436
00:83:08.710 --> 00:83:14.699
It was like platoon on platoon.
We just get in it is beat
1437
00:83:14.779 --> 00:83:15.699
the crap out of each other.
If I would knew it just a little
1438
00:83:15.699 --> 00:83:17.539
bit of just sa proud of down
a lot of better fun. Yeah,
1439
00:83:17.579 --> 00:83:21.140
I know what. That kind of
goes along with our things that we talked
1440
00:83:21.180 --> 00:83:27.210
about is is law enforcement and not
being trained. Oh, absolutely, you
1441
00:83:27.250 --> 00:83:30.850
know. I mean we pulled up
videos of idiots just getting whooped by our
1442
00:83:30.890 --> 00:83:34.930
dude that's on whatever, because they've
no clue what to do with yeah,
1443
00:83:34.930 --> 00:83:40.250
they don't know the first thing about
selfdefense. And your police officer are security
1444
00:83:40.289 --> 00:83:42.640
guy him, like, come on, you got it. Oh my God,
1445
00:83:42.720 --> 00:83:45.000
it's it's great, it's crazy.
Yeah, no, I think the
1446
00:83:45.279 --> 00:83:47.720
police force definitely needs to figure out
a lot better ways to be able to
1447
00:83:47.720 --> 00:83:51.119
deal with people like that. You
know that the overworked and under trained.
1448
00:83:51.439 --> 00:83:56.069
Absolutely, I mean definitely under definitely
undertrained. That's from out that you'd have
1449
00:83:56.069 --> 00:83:59.630
half the police. Violence of the
police were trained to deal with all in
1450
00:83:59.710 --> 00:84:01.189
type of situations. So they were
comfortable with it, right. But you
1451
00:84:01.270 --> 00:84:04.590
know, that's what the military does. They get you comfortable with being uncomfortable.
1452
00:84:04.789 --> 00:84:06.989
That we discussed before at the time, because if you're police officer,
1453
00:84:08.069 --> 00:84:12.420
there's always a weapon at the scene. You cannot lose that fight and if
1454
00:84:12.420 --> 00:84:15.380
you can't fight, you have to
use that weapon to make sure you don't
1455
00:84:15.539 --> 00:84:16.739
lose that fight. It's just it's
that simple. They don't know that got
1456
00:84:16.819 --> 00:84:19.100
to come. Jobs are much more
regularly. Oh Yeah, you know,
1457
00:84:19.180 --> 00:84:23.579
and that's the reason of the we're
having the problems with the police we are
1458
00:84:23.659 --> 00:84:25.569
now. It's because, at the
end of the day, they're human and
1459
00:84:25.649 --> 00:84:27.649
they're, yeah, about their own
life. Oh, yeah, for sure,
1460
00:84:27.970 --> 00:84:30.090
you know. So I got somebody
to go home to. Yeah,
1461
00:84:30.130 --> 00:84:32.170
you know. Yeah, so it's
you know, they're trying to protect themselves
1462
00:84:32.170 --> 00:84:35.050
at the same time and trying to
control a situation. HMM, you know.
1463
00:84:35.369 --> 00:84:38.529
Oh, it's a hard ass job. I would never be able to
1464
00:84:38.680 --> 00:84:41.319
die. I know you want you
would looked into it a while. Glad
1465
00:84:41.319 --> 00:84:43.439
I did. Yeah, I checked
in the state police cademy for a little
1466
00:84:43.479 --> 00:84:46.439
bit. And Yeah, kind of
my wife after being in the military,
1467
00:84:46.479 --> 00:84:50.600
because my wife and I were together
before I enjoined the military. Oh Wow,
1468
00:84:50.680 --> 00:84:54.909
so she you know, it was
with me one and a left for
1469
00:84:55.029 --> 00:84:58.390
basic training and a lot I t
and she was with me when I got
1470
00:84:58.470 --> 00:85:01.350
deployed the first times, with the
second time, third time. You know.
1471
00:85:01.390 --> 00:85:03.590
So it's like that's a hell of
a woman you got there. So
1472
00:85:03.789 --> 00:85:06.300
she's doing dude, all that and
then you got a full time job and
1473
00:85:06.380 --> 00:85:10.300
you run a school and the kids. I mean, dude, she's awesome.
1474
00:85:10.340 --> 00:85:13.500
Yeah, my wife. Don't tell
her I said that. She's I
1475
00:85:13.539 --> 00:85:15.180
couldn't ask for a better woman.
I really couldn't know. I don't think
1476
00:85:15.220 --> 00:85:17.500
he could. She never complains about, you know, going to me,
1477
00:85:17.539 --> 00:85:19.500
going to the gym, going to
train. You know, she's she's a
1478
00:85:19.539 --> 00:85:24.449
blue beat herself. She's a Badass
to she's she definitely wish she could train
1479
00:85:24.449 --> 00:85:28.649
a little bit more. You know, things are well, she's got restraints,
1480
00:85:28.689 --> 00:85:30.930
so it's all good, though.
She'll be back some day. Yeah,
1481
00:85:30.050 --> 00:85:34.010
but she's a she's awesome school.
Yeah, you couldn't do what you
1482
00:85:34.090 --> 00:85:36.720
did unless you had a woman like
you do. I don't know. He's
1483
00:85:36.760 --> 00:85:40.680
cool and it's, you know,
with her being a blue belt and like
1484
00:85:40.840 --> 00:85:43.319
and doing Jiujitsu and you know it. I think it helps out to you
1485
00:85:43.359 --> 00:85:45.680
know, SPEC like you, yeah, Jan, you know. Oh,
1486
00:85:45.720 --> 00:85:46.680
yeah, your wife, Nicole.
You know, you get her into it
1487
00:85:46.680 --> 00:85:48.640
and then she kind of you,
kind of sucks you in. You know.
1488
00:85:48.720 --> 00:85:50.949
It's yeah, my wife and I
think you could never talk her to
1489
00:85:51.029 --> 00:85:55.510
doing it, but she she gets
it. She yeah, she has a
1490
00:85:55.590 --> 00:85:58.149
love for it. She does what. I showed her the video of the
1491
00:86:00.109 --> 00:86:03.229
grace he's heron and hit her when
they brought that girl up or down from
1492
00:86:03.229 --> 00:86:05.659
Alaska. Oh, put that.
Oh, yeah, they got beat up
1493
00:86:05.659 --> 00:86:09.539
by yeah, he's my wife seen
that. She's like when can we sign
1494
00:86:09.619 --> 00:86:12.420
them up? And Yeah, luckily
you, we were right down the road.
1495
00:86:12.579 --> 00:86:15.180
So and you took them that young. So it just worked out perfect.
1496
00:86:15.220 --> 00:86:17.729
And my wife is us all kinds
of on boy. So even though
1497
00:86:17.729 --> 00:86:21.729
she doesn't train, she has no
desire to. She did. We're my
1498
00:86:21.810 --> 00:86:27.289
wife's even working on her at this
point. I mean the biggest thing is,
1499
00:86:27.649 --> 00:86:30.010
you know, start out slow,
you know, just get it.
1500
00:86:30.329 --> 00:86:33.039
It wouldn't hurt for her just to
know some things. That way, she
1501
00:86:33.119 --> 00:86:35.840
has it just in case she needs
it, because I got to tell ass
1502
00:86:36.159 --> 00:86:40.359
and all my kids might you know, my oldest sheet gets mad all the
1503
00:86:40.399 --> 00:86:43.479
time. We go on the gym
and she just gets grumping him up it.
1504
00:86:43.560 --> 00:86:45.359
Well, she's at that age.
Yeah, I'm trying to tell hers,
1505
00:86:45.399 --> 00:86:47.989
like you know, I'd rather you
know it and not need it.
1506
00:86:48.149 --> 00:86:50.109
The need it and I know it. Yeah, I mean so if I
1507
00:86:50.350 --> 00:86:53.229
want to feel comfortable that I you
know, hey, you know you're going
1508
00:86:53.270 --> 00:86:55.670
to be a teenager and a few
years that, you know, you can
1509
00:86:55.710 --> 00:86:58.430
be going out and hanging. I
want to know me personally as a dad,
1510
00:86:58.909 --> 00:87:00.029
you know. I want to feel
comfortable that you. If something happens,
1511
00:87:00.029 --> 00:87:02.619
you can handle absolutely. Royer.
Oh yeah, that's that's why my
1512
00:87:02.739 --> 00:87:05.140
girls are in it and right now
we can pull out the DAD card and
1513
00:87:05.220 --> 00:87:09.579
make them go. So I'm going
to use that dad guard until yourn so
1514
00:87:09.739 --> 00:87:13.500
that shit wears out. It's getting
used, and so for my girls really
1515
00:87:13.579 --> 00:87:15.649
like it. My young gets is
struggling because she's in school all day now
1516
00:87:15.729 --> 00:87:19.210
and she's really tall. But she
loves it, she said that's she's like.
1517
00:87:19.609 --> 00:87:21.250
I've asked her. I'm like,
do you want to sit out and
1518
00:87:21.369 --> 00:87:25.569
take a break, and she's like
no, absolutely not, even though she
1519
00:87:25.689 --> 00:87:28.010
gets well, if you want her
to stop crying or anything, just have
1520
00:87:28.170 --> 00:87:30.520
me go sere because she does not
want to grind from me utter. It's
1521
00:87:30.880 --> 00:87:34.680
so she's you, I'm fine.
So here. Well, there you go.
1522
00:87:35.479 --> 00:87:38.399
She's doing good. Dumb proud of
her. Yeah, no, other
1523
00:87:38.520 --> 00:87:40.279
girls are doing great. All the
girls are doing great. You know,
1524
00:87:40.279 --> 00:87:44.390
I thought I mean our school.
I mean we have more girls we have
1525
00:87:44.510 --> 00:87:47.670
boys yeah, by for like,
all right, for love that. Yeah,
1526
00:87:47.710 --> 00:87:50.710
it's so great, because that's almost
what was it designed for? That?
1527
00:87:50.869 --> 00:87:54.750
Well, we mentioned before, like
a lot of people that you find
1528
00:87:54.789 --> 00:88:00.020
Jiujitsu are like you and Jesse,
Justin and rob like you're walking down the
1529
00:88:00.100 --> 00:88:03.699
street. I'm not blading, went
themselves. Yeah, rather than mess with
1530
00:88:03.779 --> 00:88:06.699
you. Yeah, so it's people
like you know, me and kit that
1531
00:88:06.859 --> 00:88:10.539
perhaps need this more because we're going
to get picked on, as you know.
1532
00:88:10.899 --> 00:88:13.210
Any any woman. I don't know
about you, but I'm huge.
1533
00:88:14.810 --> 00:88:20.409
Check on my leats, Bro Strap, start from my ears. But you
1534
00:88:20.489 --> 00:88:24.170
know, my girl, I think
you know you guys being day, it's
1535
00:88:24.170 --> 00:88:29.199
to you know, it's it's it's
comforting going. You know your girls are
1536
00:88:29.239 --> 00:88:31.479
starting to learn something that down the
road of something gets crazy. that.
1537
00:88:31.760 --> 00:88:34.680
Yeah, Oh, yeah, feel
comfortable with defended them. So, yeah,
1538
00:88:34.920 --> 00:88:38.520
which comes to show they can handle
himself. Yeah, I never could.
1539
00:88:38.520 --> 00:88:40.439
You know, I was always the
one. I got picked on my
1540
00:88:40.479 --> 00:88:43.109
whole life. You know, I
was. I was always socially awkward,
1541
00:88:43.109 --> 00:88:45.670
I didn't have many friends, I
wasn't involved anything, so I was an
1542
00:88:45.670 --> 00:88:48.069
easy target and then I couldn't do
anything about above and beyond that. So,
1543
00:88:48.350 --> 00:88:50.189
Oh yeah, yeah, I don't
want that for my kids. But
1544
00:88:50.270 --> 00:88:55.069
you're taekwondo. Yeah, that's I
go onto. But I just did what
1545
00:88:55.149 --> 00:88:57.380
I was inside of the same because
I was in the same situation. I
1546
00:88:57.460 --> 00:88:59.859
mean when I like I said,
we used to move it out when I
1547
00:88:59.859 --> 00:89:01.699
was a kid and being always being
the new kids. You just can't get
1548
00:89:01.699 --> 00:89:04.340
a click right and don't fall into
a click when you're like that. Yeah,
1549
00:89:04.380 --> 00:89:09.739
we live down in Springfield, Tennessee. For a while when we were
1550
00:89:09.779 --> 00:89:15.050
down there and that was it was
like your stereotypical like Chad's running home.
1551
00:89:15.449 --> 00:89:18.810
Yeah, kids are change away,
trying to be up. I'm running almost
1552
00:89:18.810 --> 00:89:21.890
passic and just you know, because
the school was like maybe two, but
1553
00:89:23.010 --> 00:89:25.880
three blocks away. Yeah, I'm
running home after school every day, I
1554
00:89:26.439 --> 00:89:30.399
bet you just I got caught one
time on a snow hill and three kids
1555
00:89:30.560 --> 00:89:32.359
beat the piss out of me.
They pull my it was winter time,
1556
00:89:32.439 --> 00:89:34.880
so they had a big Snow Hill, say, pulled my hat down over
1557
00:89:34.920 --> 00:89:39.069
my eyes and one kid held me
down by my arm so I couldn't move.
1558
00:89:39.189 --> 00:89:41.590
One kid held me on my feet
and the other one jumped off the
1559
00:89:41.630 --> 00:89:44.710
snow bank on my stomach and did
like the like. The People's elbow with
1560
00:89:44.829 --> 00:89:48.590
boat with the knees repeatedly hole lo
a chandering this. I've heard this story
1561
00:89:48.750 --> 00:89:53.859
to no, I can't imagine that. I heard a lot. So it's
1562
00:89:53.979 --> 00:89:59.819
so interesting. How many people at
the gym mart more similar to what's happening
1563
00:89:59.859 --> 00:90:03.420
to you than what happened to me? HMM, I don't know. Or
1564
00:90:03.500 --> 00:90:08.489
just in in general and martial arts, because I didn't go through that.
1565
00:90:08.890 --> 00:90:11.729
I don't. I know, and
I also, I told Paul the other
1566
00:90:11.770 --> 00:90:14.850
day, I was a different person. So I'd fit in, which I
1567
00:90:14.930 --> 00:90:17.609
think most people do. is so
you're all cool because you're all doing the
1568
00:90:17.689 --> 00:90:21.039
same shit. Well, I didn't
have that issue. I was I mean
1569
00:90:21.159 --> 00:90:25.000
that's what I did. So I
was friends with everybody. Yeah, I
1570
00:90:25.079 --> 00:90:29.199
mean I've known Justin, Justin Andrews. I mean I'm at Justin when I
1571
00:90:29.239 --> 00:90:31.520
were, I moved here in ninety
six, I was freshman in high schoo
1572
00:90:31.720 --> 00:90:35.270
Nice. So I know Justin Justin
was always kind of that cool guy like
1573
00:90:35.390 --> 00:90:38.829
yeah, well, yeah, he's
said every look at the dude out of
1574
00:90:38.869 --> 00:90:42.670
me. You can't be that beautiful
and not have all the past, you
1575
00:90:42.789 --> 00:90:45.069
know. So you know, Justin, I don't think really had to deal
1576
00:90:45.069 --> 00:90:46.829
and not like that, but it's
you know, he got into Jutsu because,
1577
00:90:46.949 --> 00:90:50.020
you know, he likes the physical
aspect of that's for sure. Yeah,
1578
00:90:50.300 --> 00:90:54.140
I think other people get into it, you know that maybe we're having
1579
00:90:54.180 --> 00:90:59.460
we're struggling with something, and they
get into it thinking that it's gonna give
1580
00:90:59.539 --> 00:91:01.979
them some kind of power and able
to overcome that kind of stuff. Like
1581
00:91:02.020 --> 00:91:04.850
a Celt like I'm getting beat up, I need to learn something to kind
1582
00:91:04.850 --> 00:91:09.569
of get past that, you know, and I think a lot of people
1583
00:91:09.569 --> 00:91:11.689
to some people just don't do it, you know, they don't figure out
1584
00:91:11.689 --> 00:91:15.850
a way to better themselves to where
they're not going to get bullied. Yeah,
1585
00:91:15.930 --> 00:91:19.960
you know, there's it. Like, let's let's see, yesterday my
1586
00:91:20.039 --> 00:91:24.720
daughter comes home from school London.
She's telling me this story about this little
1587
00:91:24.720 --> 00:91:27.880
bols London. Again. She's nine, okay. She tell me this a
1588
00:91:27.880 --> 00:91:30.720
little story about this kid at school
and she's like yeah, there's this boy
1589
00:91:30.760 --> 00:91:33.029
as school, his name is Jonathan, and everybody, a lot of people,
1590
00:91:33.109 --> 00:91:36.109
like pick on them. Like why? She's like, Oh, well,
1591
00:91:38.189 --> 00:91:41.829
he kind of just wears like dirty
clothes a lot and like his parents
1592
00:91:41.869 --> 00:91:45.710
are older and he just seems like
he's kind of pouring people like kids kind
1593
00:91:45.710 --> 00:91:48.979
of mess them because he's he I'm
somes, I'm guessing you, kind of
1594
00:91:48.979 --> 00:91:53.500
feels like an outcast because he's not
wearing like the latest Ab Crome, Ba
1595
00:91:53.619 --> 00:91:55.939
sinch crap and yeah, you know, stuff like that. So he's not
1596
00:91:56.140 --> 00:91:59.020
very sociable. So people pick on
him. You know, he's an easy
1597
00:91:59.100 --> 00:92:01.090
target. So London told me at
last, right, and I was like,
1598
00:92:01.250 --> 00:92:05.250
felt horrible just because I've been there. And so I gave her one
1599
00:92:05.289 --> 00:92:08.689
of our flyers for the gym and
I wrote, I wrote, you know,
1600
00:92:09.050 --> 00:92:13.250
John to Jonathan. I was like
free membership. You always that's awesome,
1601
00:92:13.930 --> 00:92:16.239
awesome, you know. So I
she gave it to him today at
1602
00:92:16.279 --> 00:92:19.720
school. That's awesome and hopefully when
we'll get him in the door. I
1603
00:92:19.800 --> 00:92:23.640
look at you, Chad, but
also and also sid to be your stupid,
1604
00:92:24.520 --> 00:92:26.039
you know, just you know,
I think, well, look at
1605
00:92:26.079 --> 00:92:30.310
his daughter, though. I think
that's a bigger yeah, evidence ion base.
1606
00:92:30.390 --> 00:92:32.310
Like Kid, I would to do
that, because that he's done that.
1607
00:92:32.470 --> 00:92:35.069
Add He's done that multiple times.
He's like, I don't know why
1608
00:92:35.109 --> 00:92:39.149
people don't like I'm to hang out
on yeah, unless the same on sensual
1609
00:92:39.149 --> 00:92:41.310
lest. He's like I she's like, I think he's really nice. Yeah,
1610
00:92:41.350 --> 00:92:43.310
a lot of people talk to him, you know, so hopefully we
1611
00:92:43.350 --> 00:92:45.539
can get him in the door.
You know, I don't feel feel better
1612
00:92:45.579 --> 00:92:48.859
about himself. Absolutely, that's for
sure. So I just we'll see.
1613
00:92:48.979 --> 00:92:51.340
We'll keep working on hopefully getting walk
to the door in these days, you
1614
00:92:51.380 --> 00:92:54.539
know. Yeah, that'd be great. Yeah, I hope so, but
1615
00:92:55.260 --> 00:92:57.579
I don't know, and that's a
we'. I've put that out there for
1616
00:92:57.659 --> 00:93:00.529
other people to you know. Just
you know, if somebody struggling with some
1617
00:93:00.689 --> 00:93:04.489
specially women, if any kind of
women out there like struggling with anything,
1618
00:93:04.569 --> 00:93:09.010
getting beat up or abuse, you
know, just come to the gym and
1619
00:93:09.329 --> 00:93:12.689
you know I'll help you out.
I promise you know he will. So
1620
00:93:13.479 --> 00:93:16.319
I don't know, very open.
I grew up in a very abusive house.
1621
00:93:16.720 --> 00:93:20.600
My mom a day I was drunk
and you know, so any women.
1622
00:93:20.800 --> 00:93:26.439
I'm always, always there to help
women, no matter what hits home
1623
00:93:26.520 --> 00:93:30.750
for you. Makes sensolutely. It's
awesome. But in Morgan's a fantastic as
1624
00:93:30.869 --> 00:93:33.590
Dick Teacher, it's because, oh
my just one my wife. That's probably
1625
00:93:33.630 --> 00:93:38.189
no offense to you. That's one
of my wife's favorite classes. It's because
1626
00:93:38.229 --> 00:93:41.069
she breaks down. Well, it's
kind of a Combo because she breaks down
1627
00:93:41.069 --> 00:93:44.579
what you've shown. Yeah, and
she breaks it down. So it makes
1628
00:93:44.619 --> 00:93:46.659
sense for a woman. Like one
of the moves is we would normally drop
1629
00:93:46.779 --> 00:93:50.220
to an Armbar. It's run the
fuck away. I'm like, that makes
1630
00:93:50.260 --> 00:93:54.140
sense, you know, it gets
them away from a person that's larger and
1631
00:93:54.260 --> 00:93:57.569
out and I'm like that's and gem
was like that. It was so cool.
1632
00:93:57.810 --> 00:94:00.609
So, yeah, she's awesome.
Yeah, and I know I demonstrate
1633
00:94:00.649 --> 00:94:02.649
that to I think when a couple
moves as yeah, you get to do
1634
00:94:02.770 --> 00:94:06.250
down either the option a one,
yeah, and be break that off.
1635
00:94:06.289 --> 00:94:09.649
Yeah, if you want to stay
there and just pum of the dude,
1636
00:94:10.159 --> 00:94:12.479
do it. You know, if
you know you feel threatened, just get
1637
00:94:12.520 --> 00:94:15.520
the hell out of there and leave
the situation flex somebody down. You don't
1638
00:94:15.520 --> 00:94:18.039
get some melt or just you know, Mine's always run. Yeah, I
1639
00:94:18.239 --> 00:94:20.880
do. I'm like, Oh shit, running, I can't run. My
1640
00:94:20.920 --> 00:94:25.829
knees won't allow it. So I
have to break the arms. All has
1641
00:94:25.869 --> 00:94:28.909
to be tough. So, because
he kind of run, I'll want me
1642
00:94:28.989 --> 00:94:31.229
try to hobble away. Oh God, he's gonna Catch me. This sucks.
1643
00:94:31.430 --> 00:94:35.350
Well, that's my only saving grace
so far with Chad's. Chad's threatened
1644
00:94:35.350 --> 00:94:39.659
to punch me in the face,
a bunch deservedly. So, I mean
1645
00:94:40.220 --> 00:94:44.020
you, I would have punched me
by now, but in my saving grace,
1646
00:94:44.060 --> 00:94:47.619
so pretty quick, I will run. But you don't work, Guy,
1647
00:94:47.619 --> 00:94:50.060
as much as Chad. I actually
kind of want to see afoot race
1648
00:94:50.180 --> 00:94:54.649
now, not. Yeah, WE'RE
gonna have to make this happen the wealth
1649
00:94:54.649 --> 00:94:56.770
the way, the next week.
I did like a bunch of wins prints
1650
00:94:56.770 --> 00:94:59.970
yesterday. Oh so, should do
it tomorrow. That I like. My
1651
00:95:00.010 --> 00:95:02.250
legs are wrecked all day to day
at work up with I've been rubbing that
1652
00:95:02.369 --> 00:95:06.010
Tiger Bam. Oh, yeahs and
killing me. We're going to set up
1653
00:95:06.010 --> 00:95:09.319
a foot race. Let's go.
Let me know. Yeah, so,
1654
00:95:09.359 --> 00:95:12.319
I far. I follow in my
face. We're going to get on tape
1655
00:95:12.399 --> 00:95:15.279
it. Yeah, yeah, Guy, Guy Work, just did Daddy.
1656
00:95:15.760 --> 00:95:18.920
He challenged the old man to do
a race. He's you know, there's
1657
00:95:18.920 --> 00:95:21.829
a guy work, Chad, and
he was in the Marines, I think,
1658
00:95:23.670 --> 00:95:26.430
and there's a younger kid that was
just talking about this shit and Chads,
1659
00:95:26.510 --> 00:95:28.949
like you know, came down.
I don't know how it came up,
1660
00:95:28.989 --> 00:95:30.750
but they were going to race.
So they went out in this this
1661
00:95:30.909 --> 00:95:34.899
kid and Chad lined up and they
took off and this kid was beating Chad
1662
00:95:35.539 --> 00:95:42.260
a lot and then kind of got
rubber leg. She has ate it.
1663
00:95:42.819 --> 00:95:45.779
He was scraped hit. Both his
knees were just trashed, his hips was
1664
00:95:45.899 --> 00:95:47.739
trash, his elbows, and so
he did the full barrel world in all,
1665
00:95:47.779 --> 00:95:51.090
Dude, he just got rude,
just like I. Guess I win.
1666
00:95:54.090 --> 00:95:59.569
You want to really get so you
have to finish right. So,
1667
00:95:59.930 --> 00:96:01.649
Hey, Chad, do you have
you got my sense of humor yet down?
1668
00:96:01.729 --> 00:96:05.920
I'm a complete more n nine percent
of the time absolutely perfect. Other
1669
00:96:05.960 --> 00:96:09.439
one, you were mean among me
the other day. That was freaking funny.
1670
00:96:09.439 --> 00:96:12.520
I was burping. I was literally
Burp like there's so many people around
1671
00:96:12.520 --> 00:96:15.000
me, this isn't gonna smoke good. He's like, you mean much?
1672
00:96:15.039 --> 00:96:18.550
Get me, like God, no, don't kill me. It looks to
1673
00:96:18.670 --> 00:96:21.510
the side. Do you know,
man, I took my pills. Dude,
1674
00:96:21.670 --> 00:96:26.350
I'm even Keel. That's what the
pills are for. Cool. No,
1675
00:96:26.470 --> 00:96:28.989
I think you know, with anybody
at the Jim you got to feel
1676
00:96:29.029 --> 00:96:30.390
out their personality. Yeah, so, and I haven't awkward on him.
1677
00:96:30.430 --> 00:96:33.220
Yeah, but let's be honest,
it's cool. Yeah, yeah, it's
1678
00:96:33.539 --> 00:96:38.060
not. Everybody gets everybody else.
That's it is, and no one gets
1679
00:96:38.060 --> 00:96:42.220
kipped. But yeah, no,
no, no, not really. No,
1680
00:96:42.500 --> 00:96:45.579
no. But you know, the
gym is a cool culture because you
1681
00:96:45.659 --> 00:96:48.569
know, not everybody's going to be
best and friends, but everybody is Friends
1682
00:96:48.770 --> 00:96:53.170
of Oh yeah, it's yea where
it's just it's just a good culture where
1683
00:96:53.170 --> 00:96:56.250
everybody's cool. And I like it
because when I first walked into my first
1684
00:96:56.289 --> 00:97:00.050
gym, I kind of I was
always looking for that that team, HMM,
1685
00:97:00.250 --> 00:97:01.920
and I assumed I was going to
get that just by walking in and
1686
00:97:02.039 --> 00:97:04.880
putting on a white belt, like
I'm part of a team. Now it's
1687
00:97:04.960 --> 00:97:09.079
not, but it's a lot of
it should be, but it wasn't at
1688
00:97:09.119 --> 00:97:11.560
the gym I went into, which
is fine because, you know, I
1689
00:97:11.680 --> 00:97:14.000
get it. There's you know,
a lot of people just quit right away.
1690
00:97:14.039 --> 00:97:15.590
So it's like yeah, why bother
getting to know him? But the
1691
00:97:15.750 --> 00:97:19.029
culture that you have, I think, is way better because, regardless of
1692
00:97:19.149 --> 00:97:21.670
whether they might leave or not in
the chances are very, very high that
1693
00:97:21.710 --> 00:97:25.149
they will. Nobody cares. We're
going to be friend you, were going
1694
00:97:25.189 --> 00:97:26.710
to talk to you, we can
to help you out, just as much
1695
00:97:26.710 --> 00:97:30.939
as possible. And Yeah, I
mean that just it's an awesome thing to
1696
00:97:30.979 --> 00:97:33.539
have in a gym. Oh,
yeah, you and I just with the
1697
00:97:33.619 --> 00:97:36.539
school. You know, like I
said, I've trained it so many different
1698
00:97:36.539 --> 00:97:42.340
places to see there might be stopping
in for seminars. You know, one
1699
00:97:42.380 --> 00:97:47.569
of the best places I've been out
to, which curler highly recommended, was
1700
00:97:48.170 --> 00:97:54.130
Marcio Stumbowski, okay, Maka,
how they call them. I went out
1701
00:97:54.170 --> 00:97:58.920
to his school in Norwalk Connecticut,
and that do dude, the atmosphere his
1702
00:97:59.000 --> 00:98:03.760
school like it was. It was
amazing and I I'd hope some day we
1703
00:98:03.840 --> 00:98:06.800
could you get everybody could meet him. He doesn't really travel as much,
1704
00:98:06.840 --> 00:98:11.199
no more, just because he's getting
a little older, but just the atmosphere
1705
00:98:11.239 --> 00:98:15.029
to school and his personality is to
being it. Just he's very open and
1706
00:98:15.149 --> 00:98:16.789
just, you know, he's always
cheering people on. You know, that's
1707
00:98:16.829 --> 00:98:23.029
cool. Yes, it's hard.
It's hard to like me talking about it
1708
00:98:23.670 --> 00:98:25.989
doesn't give it enough right. Yeah, you know what it's like. A
1709
00:98:26.069 --> 00:98:28.220
picture doesn't really do it just.
Yeah, you got to see it.
1710
00:98:29.699 --> 00:98:33.060
I try to kind of with like
curler and him as that's all I kind
1711
00:98:33.060 --> 00:98:34.979
of want to I want to I
want to focus my school like that,
1712
00:98:35.060 --> 00:98:39.659
you know, with courler style of
Jiujitsu and curlers just way of training and
1713
00:98:39.699 --> 00:98:41.180
teaching. You know, I want
to be like that, you know,
1714
00:98:41.420 --> 00:98:46.050
with Marcio, Marcio's phenomenal Jiujitsu to
but it just just his atmosphere and how
1715
00:98:46.090 --> 00:98:48.729
he runs his school and just everything
like that. It just I kind of
1716
00:98:48.810 --> 00:98:51.569
trying to make a head, take
a little bit of both, you know.
1717
00:98:51.609 --> 00:98:55.170
I'm, yeah, making into us
of both worlds come. Yeah,
1718
00:98:55.170 --> 00:98:57.239
and it's and I do the same
thing with other schools too. I've been
1719
00:98:57.239 --> 00:98:58.520
to it. So it's, you
know, I take a little bit from
1720
00:98:58.520 --> 00:99:00.279
here and take a little bit from
here, and I see the negative at
1721
00:99:00.279 --> 00:99:02.680
this place that see the negative here
and what people are complain about, you
1722
00:99:02.760 --> 00:99:04.720
know, and just you try to
get rid of that, you know.
1723
00:99:04.840 --> 00:99:09.199
And so if we complained about you, turn it up the heat. You'll
1724
00:99:09.560 --> 00:99:13.310
you've quit doing that. That what
you're saying. Probably, I probably would
1725
00:99:13.350 --> 00:99:17.470
hold on. I gotta See,
I gotta Sneeze. Please stop. Yeah,
1726
00:99:17.470 --> 00:99:19.550
I mean there's there's this. Days
I kind of get a wild hair,
1727
00:99:19.630 --> 00:99:21.750
yes, but you know, I
gotta get a good so, yeah,
1728
00:99:21.789 --> 00:99:26.420
it's Yo. Yeah, we all
know the Chad twinkle because, oh,
1729
00:99:26.539 --> 00:99:30.460
it's gonna suck today. It's got
the twinkle. Yeah, I just
1730
00:99:30.899 --> 00:99:33.300
I liked. I like to be
hot when I'm training. It. Well,
1731
00:99:33.380 --> 00:99:35.659
was actually better for it, because
the hotter I am, the last
1732
00:99:35.739 --> 00:99:39.930
I don't don't, don't give them
any positive well, you know, after
1733
00:99:39.970 --> 00:99:43.130
you told good, but I want
to get beat up. Hold on,
1734
00:99:43.289 --> 00:99:45.449
hold on, I gotta fix this
real quick. But yeah, if you're
1735
00:99:45.489 --> 00:99:49.050
warm and real, really hot,
you know you don't get those soft tissue
1736
00:99:49.090 --> 00:99:51.729
injuries, right, that I tended? Yeah, you know, with me,
1737
00:99:51.920 --> 00:99:54.640
with like I said of them previously, it's like, you know what,
1738
00:99:54.760 --> 00:99:56.399
having the neck issues, in the
backck issues. You know, if
1739
00:99:56.399 --> 00:99:58.880
my if I'm hot, I feel
great. Yeah, Oh, yeah,
1740
00:99:58.880 --> 00:100:02.199
that I admit my wife. First
roles always kind of rough because I'm not
1741
00:100:02.479 --> 00:100:05.960
really hot yet by my next roles
might look I can bend up into a
1742
00:100:06.079 --> 00:100:10.550
Prinzel and I feel dude. But
but yeah, when I get hot,
1743
00:100:10.550 --> 00:100:14.590
I get like thousand yards stare.
I stay. You've almost lost Paul twice.
1744
00:100:15.390 --> 00:100:16.949
I've seen that look. Yeah,
a big deep breath and you're looking
1745
00:100:16.949 --> 00:100:20.149
at me. Chids, please,
yeah, not another yeah, the Birdie
1746
00:100:20.189 --> 00:100:23.699
please. Yeah, I try,
though, I give it, I give
1747
00:100:23.699 --> 00:100:26.619
it the good old college stry every
time. I yeah, like like the
1748
00:100:26.659 --> 00:100:30.739
legless of the legs last week where
you turned into doing a bicycle flick.
1749
00:100:30.020 --> 00:100:33.060
Yeah, they're doing you're doing a
flatter kicks and like I can do up
1750
00:100:33.100 --> 00:100:35.409
to like thirty. Then they're just
going to get worse and worse and they're
1751
00:100:35.449 --> 00:100:38.649
going to do what a hundred of
them? Yeah, no, he did
1752
00:100:38.810 --> 00:100:42.329
seventy only because everybody else is like
to just stopped, like I can do
1753
00:100:42.489 --> 00:100:46.729
have a conscience. Yeah, I
don't know. That's pushing it. Yeah,
1754
00:100:46.970 --> 00:100:49.000
I see. Everybody was kind of
struggle. I think Ben and I
1755
00:100:49.159 --> 00:100:53.000
and a couple other guys are maybe
still kind of going pretty strong, but
1756
00:100:53.079 --> 00:100:54.960
I was like, he's down,
he's down, he's down. Yeah,
1757
00:100:55.079 --> 00:100:58.119
Hey, hey, I only went
down for like a second and now'll go
1758
00:100:58.199 --> 00:101:00.880
back up, because you would look
at me, who's Ah Shit, keeps
1759
00:101:00.920 --> 00:101:01.560
looking at me. Oh, yeah, gotta keep going. Yeah, I
1760
00:101:01.560 --> 00:101:04.630
always realize what kind of shape I'm
not in on those kind of days.
1761
00:101:04.630 --> 00:101:09.229
Oh my God, how do you
do that? It's tough, man.
1762
00:101:09.270 --> 00:101:12.029
Yeah, Justin was doing the what
kind of PUSHUPS are they? Were you
1763
00:101:12.029 --> 00:101:14.350
just you have your elbows in front
of you. You're just using your triesteps
1764
00:101:14.390 --> 00:101:15.949
to think. MAKES A bottle pushups? Yeah, I think so. I'm
1765
00:101:15.989 --> 00:101:19.180
like, yeah, Dude, is
bad. Like how I tried one like
1766
00:101:19.340 --> 00:101:23.579
Mike. It wouldn't do it,
like my body was like some new it's
1767
00:101:23.659 --> 00:101:25.899
so awesome. All of a sudden
you just here, Paul Yep, not
1768
00:101:26.020 --> 00:101:29.420
doing that lest it. How do
you do this? Like how this is
1769
00:101:29.460 --> 00:101:32.369
a thing? At Justin does Monday
through Friday. He does cross fit.
1770
00:101:32.649 --> 00:101:36.130
God, Hey, you were right. Just cross fit. Yeah, so
1771
00:101:36.250 --> 00:101:40.329
clearly he's on the plate Paleo Diet
then, isn't he? He just bail.
1772
00:101:40.409 --> 00:101:44.050
You admit it. You don't do
Pale yeah, he wanted Justin.
1773
00:101:44.090 --> 00:101:45.649
Kind of flip flops back and forth. One one week he's a Vegan,
1774
00:101:45.729 --> 00:101:49.520
next weekend he'lly. Whatever. Do
you unfriended when he goes Vegan? Just
1775
00:101:49.680 --> 00:101:54.079
yeah, I look great off on
Facebook, but I can't be associate anymore.
1776
00:101:54.880 --> 00:101:58.000
I gotta stock a Vegan Burgers.
Oh, is just suggesting it.
1777
00:101:58.239 --> 00:102:00.640
Over. You Got Freezer Bird like, dude, you gotta come over and
1778
00:102:00.640 --> 00:102:01.869
eath this sho I got a whole
pack them in there, just raim for
1779
00:102:01.869 --> 00:102:03.829
when they came here last time.
We didn't even eat them. Yeah,
1780
00:102:03.869 --> 00:102:06.270
do you go? You just check
in when he walks in the door,
1781
00:102:06.350 --> 00:102:10.149
be like Vegan. Well, yeah, be Vegan this week. We're not.
1782
00:102:10.350 --> 00:102:13.550
You should have him come over and
like, have you know Bacon covered
1783
00:102:13.670 --> 00:102:17.300
steak as he's eating his stupid Vegan
he'd stop when he was in I guarantee.
1784
00:102:17.340 --> 00:102:23.060
Yeah, he justin school. I
love it. He's cool, Dude.
1785
00:102:23.140 --> 00:102:27.300
He he takes a good joke,
because I literally say something about it
1786
00:102:27.579 --> 00:102:30.649
was every episode and he's like,
you talked about me lat don't you like
1787
00:102:30.930 --> 00:102:32.569
love with you? Back off.
It's your hair, bro like, what
1788
00:102:32.609 --> 00:102:35.050
are you get to do here?
Don't be so pretty. He's so damn
1789
00:102:35.050 --> 00:102:39.770
it good. Well, Chad's pretty
pretty himself. Honestly, look, look
1790
00:102:39.810 --> 00:102:42.090
at the beer that. When did
you get rid of your dreadlocks? Oh
1791
00:102:42.210 --> 00:102:50.159
my God, year was that?
She's dreadlocks? They had to be ninety
1792
00:102:51.720 --> 00:102:56.000
seven, maybe. Oh, so
the you're I graduated high school. I
1793
00:102:56.119 --> 00:102:59.350
was a year I graduated as well. Hey, we're eleven. Is Somewhere
1794
00:102:59.390 --> 00:103:02.430
Nine, ninety eight? Yeah,
because I met Ashley Ninety nine and I
1795
00:103:02.510 --> 00:103:06.630
probably didn't have for it's probably about
a year. If, yeah, you
1796
00:103:06.710 --> 00:103:12.270
wanted to land at that with the
dreads, no eye. It took one
1797
00:103:12.310 --> 00:103:15.500
look at me and on the bed
like hell, no, negative ghost.
1798
00:103:15.539 --> 00:103:19.979
Right. Yeah, I also heard
a rumor that you may have wrapped at
1799
00:103:20.060 --> 00:103:26.300
one point in time. So maybe
you just like yeah, buster rhyme real
1800
00:103:26.340 --> 00:103:30.689
quick. All right, the rapping
days are gone. So so when did
1801
00:103:30.770 --> 00:103:35.050
the rapping days come to an end? Gosh, the rapping days came to
1802
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an end, say last year?
Yeah, just before I came here.
1803
00:103:41.409 --> 00:103:46.199
No, I we started rapping probably
round right around, probably ninety six,
1804
00:103:46.199 --> 00:103:48.920
hundred and ninety seven. That same
are, same time I came out.
1805
00:103:48.920 --> 00:103:51.960
Well, when I moved here I
was from cadillacs. I was like a
1806
00:103:53.000 --> 00:103:56.189
country kid. Only have every we
moved down here and was a big culture
1807
00:103:56.189 --> 00:103:58.909
change and I used to play guitar
and Hadlong hair and I was in a
1808
00:103:58.989 --> 00:104:00.989
band and not cool, you know. So I played in a band and
1809
00:104:00.869 --> 00:104:04.270
in high school and so I get
some just jammed on guitar and we moved
1810
00:104:04.350 --> 00:104:08.989
here and it was a totally different
scene and that's the long hair turned into
1811
00:104:08.989 --> 00:104:15.659
dreadlocks and I started rapping and they
cut my kn't name was chaos. Yes,
1812
00:104:15.420 --> 00:104:19.260
that's going to stay. Yeah,
we had we had a rap group
1813
00:104:19.899 --> 00:104:24.289
we were called wrath and actually that's
what I should have bring us. So
1814
00:104:24.449 --> 00:104:27.569
have flyers from we play. Oh
my yeah, you know that has to
1815
00:104:27.649 --> 00:104:30.250
happen. Brought one of those of
me. Were our first single. It
1816
00:104:30.329 --> 00:104:34.409
was our first thing, was blood
bath and it was supposed to come out
1817
00:104:34.409 --> 00:104:41.039
the summer and ninety seven. Yeah, and we recorded a bunch of things
1818
00:104:41.079 --> 00:104:43.520
and I'd have to dig in to
see her. I gonna find some tapes.
1819
00:104:43.960 --> 00:104:45.840
Oh, please do that. We
recorded. That's got to be in
1820
00:104:45.880 --> 00:104:50.960
the playlist. Oh my gosh.
We were Fred Song called Ecstasy. We
1821
00:104:51.079 --> 00:104:55.590
had a couple other ones. We
did. WHO's we? Is this we?
1822
00:104:55.590 --> 00:105:00.069
Anyone? We please be just as
now. Justin was never part of
1823
00:105:00.109 --> 00:105:03.510
it. There was a dam.
It was my buddy Nick Postma was one
1824
00:105:03.550 --> 00:105:09.340
of them, and then my brother
Ryan Levan and another buddy named Rick,
1825
00:105:09.859 --> 00:105:15.500
and Nick's name was Ruckus and my
brother Ryan's name was say. They called
1826
00:105:15.500 --> 00:105:20.100
him sereabus because he was like serebus
was, I thought, I think it
1827
00:105:20.180 --> 00:105:23.689
was one of the dogs of hell
or something like no, no saws,
1828
00:105:23.729 --> 00:105:28.010
and Ryan was just like a dude. He like he damn or give my
1829
00:105:28.050 --> 00:105:31.090
parents a heart attack like every other
day. He was just a terrorizer and
1830
00:105:31.250 --> 00:105:36.359
then cosh rick was I can't remember
what Rick's name was. Man, I
1831
00:105:36.399 --> 00:105:40.039
was a long time ago. But
yeah, we had all had outfits.
1832
00:105:40.720 --> 00:105:44.239
Who Different, different color. We
wore camouflage. We had all different color
1833
00:105:44.279 --> 00:105:47.479
camouflage outfits. It sounds about the
right time. I bore like that blue
1834
00:105:47.840 --> 00:105:53.829
camouflage. Yeah, that would work
in water, essentially. I don't know
1835
00:105:53.869 --> 00:105:56.510
where that really hated the ocean.
Yeah, I'm not sure where really came
1836
00:105:56.550 --> 00:106:01.789
from, but I wore blue camouflage. Nick War Green Camouflage. Could I'm
1837
00:106:01.829 --> 00:106:06.779
sure Ryan had like the orange and
black and yellow kind of camouflage. I
1838
00:106:08.100 --> 00:106:13.779
don't know where that what it came
from. Toll that's construction and instructure.
1839
00:106:15.060 --> 00:106:17.649
But we took a bunch of pictures
down by the railroad tracks here and green
1840
00:106:17.689 --> 00:106:20.050
rabbits by them train cars and stuff
like that. Oh yeah, so we
1841
00:106:20.090 --> 00:106:24.369
did a bunch of stuff down there
yet and but we thought we were like
1842
00:106:25.609 --> 00:106:27.810
rough and tough. I'm trying to
see if I can find a picture because
1843
00:106:27.810 --> 00:106:30.409
I know there's one on facebook.
Oh my God, I was crying.
1844
00:106:30.529 --> 00:106:33.520
But we thought we were rough and
tough. You know, all these little
1845
00:106:33.520 --> 00:106:38.159
white dudes and this thought we were
going to make some something big ourselves and
1846
00:106:38.479 --> 00:106:41.119
hey, eminem did it it.
Yeah, it turned out to be.
1847
00:106:41.239 --> 00:106:44.039
Yeah, that's few empar between son. You know, it turned out to
1848
00:106:44.119 --> 00:106:47.750
be just we'd get together on a
party and we'd have a microphone and I
1849
00:106:48.189 --> 00:106:51.590
we have some drinks and we'd started
like fruit. We did in strumental is
1850
00:106:51.630 --> 00:106:56.229
going. We start freestyle wrapping that
coal. I just want to hear best
1851
00:106:57.189 --> 00:107:00.350
so bad. It was. He's
like not, not today voice. That
1852
00:107:00.500 --> 00:107:05.460
was like twenty years ago. God
be so yeah, I know there's table.
1853
00:107:05.460 --> 00:107:06.899
I still have tapes. I know
I do. I did. You
1854
00:107:06.939 --> 00:107:13.260
can find us tapes or evidence of
the of the dreads. You would be
1855
00:107:13.380 --> 00:107:15.369
my best friend. Sorry, Paul. Yeah, how about? I'm not.
1856
00:107:15.689 --> 00:107:17.529
I'll get you guys, a flyer. I guess you one of the
1857
00:107:17.609 --> 00:107:20.210
old flyers this thing. I'll get
you a picture of me at the dress.
1858
00:107:23.130 --> 00:107:25.810
Chad, such a good guy.
We've had a mere for like two
1859
00:107:25.890 --> 00:107:28.890
hours now. Oh Yeah, there's
anything you want to wrap this up with,
1860
00:107:29.010 --> 00:107:32.319
Chad? Like a funny story?
Injury you've ever seen? Never had
1861
00:107:33.199 --> 00:107:38.319
every much of people at the gym. Anything you want? Worst injury I've
1862
00:107:38.319 --> 00:107:43.960
ever seen. We were doing wind
sprints and new kid just started. It
1863
00:107:44.079 --> 00:107:45.869
was like that day and we were
doing wind sprints. I was like all
1864
00:107:45.869 --> 00:107:49.590
right, dude, these mats are
really sticky. So when you slow down,
1865
00:107:49.710 --> 00:107:53.350
like slow them, but turn your
feet to the side when you slow
1866
00:107:53.430 --> 00:107:56.750
down. When he slowed down and
like kept going forward with his feet and
1867
00:107:56.909 --> 00:108:03.979
its big toebone popped out and broken. It was like sticking up right through
1868
00:108:04.140 --> 00:108:08.539
the top of his toe. And
Yeah, that was that was pretty gross.
1869
00:108:11.300 --> 00:108:15.770
I got nothing. That's where.
That's worse than my kneecap story for
1870
00:108:15.890 --> 00:108:18.250
my first day. Your knee cap, Storre is quite that whatever. Ye,
1871
00:108:18.529 --> 00:108:21.609
it's pretty rough. I broke my
ankle once. The guy shot in
1872
00:108:21.689 --> 00:108:25.890
for a takedown. I slipped on
some sweat, sweat and fell back and
1873
00:108:26.250 --> 00:108:30.760
snap my ankle. Bloody nose,
is normal things here. Yeah, yeah,
1874
00:108:30.840 --> 00:108:34.680
Teeth, oh whore. Once Im
we were we were in the racquetball
1875
00:108:34.720 --> 00:108:40.000
gym when it was fight club joy. We were sparing and there's this guy
1876
00:108:40.039 --> 00:108:41.909
who's a kickboxer. He's like Hey, man, I was I want to
1877
00:108:41.949 --> 00:108:44.510
get some sparn and training. And
he wasn't even really didn't even sign up
1878
00:108:44.510 --> 00:108:45.510
for the gym. He was like
this want to spar right, yes,
1879
00:108:45.630 --> 00:108:48.270
he was flying on the Florida and
like two or three weeks to do this
1880
00:108:48.590 --> 00:108:53.310
kickboxing tournament you signed up for.
So everybody's AD. You got spar why?
1881
00:108:53.350 --> 00:108:56.220
Because Rory was like phenomens like black
Belton, like some kind of karate
1882
00:108:56.260 --> 00:109:00.300
or something like these crazy legs and
they start sparring and Horey was short of
1883
00:109:00.380 --> 00:109:04.420
this dude, probably six to he
actually trains downtown with Dan and all those
1884
00:109:04.460 --> 00:109:06.939
guys. Last I knew. Oh, really, really, yeah, and
1885
00:109:09.659 --> 00:109:14.689
whore had these wicked kicks like this
dudes kicks were they come out of nowhere.
1886
00:109:15.130 --> 00:109:16.930
And this dude came in and through
something horrey. It kind of ducked
1887
00:109:16.970 --> 00:109:19.890
under and did like kind of came
up with his leg like straight up like
1888
00:109:19.970 --> 00:109:24.800
this, right on this dudes nose. This d stiff us dus nose was
1889
00:109:24.880 --> 00:109:30.960
touching this dude. It was nasty
and yeah, bad. I'm rob walking
1890
00:109:30.960 --> 00:109:33.560
up him, grabs his nose,
pulls it back straight and he was like
1891
00:109:33.560 --> 00:109:36.119
yeah, you're not doing that kickboxing
match. You got here in three weeks.
1892
00:109:36.199 --> 00:109:43.710
Nasty. Yeah, that's that's that's
similar to up my engineer did to
1893
00:109:43.789 --> 00:109:47.430
me. We've already told that stores
roll. I'm just saying it. It
1894
00:109:47.550 --> 00:109:53.579
sucks when somebody's gotta like pull your
nose off, your cheek back and imagine.
1895
00:109:54.060 --> 00:109:57.420
No, Hu, that's but try
the worst injuries, the worst things
1896
00:109:57.460 --> 00:109:59.340
are ever seen. I mean,
oh well, wait, no, Oh
1897
00:109:59.460 --> 00:110:02.659
God, neither none of you guys
were there. So curler came up curling
1898
00:110:02.699 --> 00:110:06.329
about me for this. We were
at we were out Mosquegan and we were
1899
00:110:06.329 --> 00:110:09.770
at a seminar. Curly came up
for a summer because Rob's when rob was
1900
00:110:09.810 --> 00:110:13.489
affiliated with him either, and we
were in a rack about another racketball court.
1901
00:110:13.529 --> 00:110:15.649
For some reason Robin these racketball courts. I don't know why. It's
1902
00:110:15.689 --> 00:110:18.289
got a good echo too. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. You didn't
1903
00:110:18.289 --> 00:110:20.600
even have to pay attention. You
can hear from any direction when further was
1904
00:110:20.680 --> 00:110:27.119
talking. But so we got to
start rolling at the end and I don't
1905
00:110:27.119 --> 00:110:29.920
remember why I was rolling. The
mcgue MC gwyn twins were there, a
1906
00:110:29.920 --> 00:110:32.199
couple guys from curler school, Victor. My thing might have been up,
1907
00:110:32.640 --> 00:110:35.670
and I don't know if you guys
ever got a chance to meet cody.
1908
00:110:35.869 --> 00:110:39.310
He was, as he's in my
buddy. Yes, became a state police
1909
00:110:39.590 --> 00:110:43.829
officer. H So cody and Scott, buddy, Scott we're rolling together and
1910
00:110:43.949 --> 00:110:46.350
Scott CA used to come up once
in a while. Well, cody's two
1911
00:110:46.350 --> 00:110:51.300
hundred pounds or so thick. Dude. Scott goes in the turtle position for
1912
00:110:51.460 --> 00:110:57.180
some reason and cody starts to take
us back. Well, I think Scot
1913
00:110:57.220 --> 00:110:59.140
I'm rolling close to them. I'm
not sure it really it cas how it
1914
00:110:59.180 --> 00:111:01.939
happened, but I believe Scott based
out with his hand and try to flip
1915
00:111:02.060 --> 00:111:05.569
cody over his back. And when
he flipped cody over his back, cody's
1916
00:111:06.010 --> 00:111:12.130
shoulder came down right on his forearm
snapped his form right, right in half,
1917
00:111:12.289 --> 00:111:15.170
probably maybe a foot half away from
my ear. That's all. What.
1918
00:111:15.289 --> 00:111:16.529
So that sounded good. Oh,
I sound like you took a Tu
1919
00:111:16.609 --> 00:111:21.760
by far and smacked against a sement
floor. It was nasty. Yeah,
1920
00:111:23.720 --> 00:111:26.800
Hey, I just barm was all
bent. So me being at, you
1921
00:111:26.880 --> 00:111:30.119
know, ex military, I went
through all these like combat lights. Yeah,
1922
00:111:30.720 --> 00:111:32.109
all right, dude, hang on, and I took my belt off
1923
00:111:32.189 --> 00:111:34.310
and wrapped my belt around and kept
it all straight. We put a piece
1924
00:111:34.310 --> 00:111:36.590
of wood in there and straighten it
out and I put it away and stuff
1925
00:111:36.590 --> 00:111:40.670
like. He's still got my old
belt. Yeah, I want that,
1926
00:111:40.789 --> 00:111:45.670
BA, but they took him to
the hospital and it was funny because he
1927
00:111:45.750 --> 00:111:49.460
didn't want to go to the hospital
here in Mysquegan and he was from Kalamazoo.
1928
00:111:50.020 --> 00:111:53.659
So He's ended up driving back with
a nate all the way from a
1929
00:111:53.699 --> 00:111:56.939
skigin down to Kalamazoo. Would probably, I don't know, two hour drive
1930
00:111:57.020 --> 00:112:00.460
with a brow busted arm. Just
about you, prof that'll be fine,
1931
00:112:00.539 --> 00:112:01.890
guys. Yeah, that was it. That was pretty gross and over the
1932
00:112:01.890 --> 00:112:08.010
whiskey. Yeah, absolutely, Jesus. Yeah, I don't know. I
1933
00:112:08.050 --> 00:112:12.770
don't know. I got Shin spots
when up, broke fingers, broke toes.
1934
00:112:12.810 --> 00:112:15.439
That that's just the normal cauliflower here. No teeth through your lip.
1935
00:112:15.680 --> 00:112:18.079
Oh Yeah, you know, saw
that that I have. That's just the
1936
00:112:18.199 --> 00:112:23.479
normal stuff. But those those fleay
white belt elbows in your face or always
1937
00:112:23.520 --> 00:112:28.279
hood. Oh Yeah, oh my
gosh, but I didn't understand that at
1938
00:112:28.279 --> 00:112:31.909
all, like what, are not
trying to be freaking out? Totally was
1939
00:112:32.750 --> 00:112:35.510
until now, and now we get
some new guys in like punch me square
1940
00:112:35.590 --> 00:112:40.229
in the face. Way, I
still check people's Chins on my knees here
1941
00:112:40.270 --> 00:112:42.350
and there. Good. Oh,
yeah, I checked his head with my
1942
00:112:42.390 --> 00:112:44.819
knee. You. Yeah, I
just try to check your nuts. With
1943
00:112:44.819 --> 00:112:48.260
whom ideas that you? They got? No, no, it wasn't me.
1944
00:112:48.340 --> 00:112:50.539
This time. I'm like, Hey, it wasn't me. Yeah,
1945
00:112:50.619 --> 00:112:53.819
US, yeah, I see,
not wearing a cup. This you are
1946
00:112:53.859 --> 00:112:56.500
writhing in pain a little. This
doesn't play, it doesn't pan out something.
1947
00:112:56.619 --> 00:112:59.210
Yeah, I don't know. Sometimes
you get hit, but yeah,
1948
00:112:59.210 --> 00:113:00.609
I don't. I don't wear a
cup either. I just I tried it.
1949
00:113:00.770 --> 00:113:03.090
Couldn't do it. I had head
one of those old jacks draps,
1950
00:113:03.130 --> 00:113:05.850
you with the this jockstrapped, you
know, the old schools. Trying to
1951
00:113:05.890 --> 00:113:10.010
sell me on your freaking jocks wrapping, and yes, I am. Yeah,
1952
00:113:10.130 --> 00:113:12.880
so. Well, the old one
sucked because they just like the Steel
1953
00:113:12.920 --> 00:113:15.800
Cup ones. He's talking about ring
the string. The strings look like a
1954
00:113:15.880 --> 00:113:17.119
Thong. Yeah, kind of.
Oh, yeah, well, my ball
1955
00:113:17.199 --> 00:113:20.840
got caught in between my cup and
my leg as I got it rolled over.
1956
00:113:21.640 --> 00:113:25.720
So I didn't want that to happen
again. So I'll the very next
1957
00:113:25.720 --> 00:113:29.390
day while one of those diamond mm
makeups for like a hundred dollar, natural
1958
00:113:29.430 --> 00:113:31.869
spo never had a problem since.
No, great. Yeah, well,
1959
00:113:31.949 --> 00:113:34.430
CORLA Kred the corps want to kind
of talking about of coups. He's not
1960
00:113:34.510 --> 00:113:38.989
talking me out of Shit, because
you figure out the end of the day,
1961
00:113:38.989 --> 00:113:40.869
if you tried to arm bar,
a lot of people and I wear
1962
00:113:40.909 --> 00:113:43.380
cups. They they rely on their
cups. Yeah, have that pivot point
1963
00:113:43.460 --> 00:113:45.140
Yep with the arm. Well,
if you rely on on that, you're
1964
00:113:45.140 --> 00:113:47.619
really not pinching properly with your leg. Yeah, you know I mean.
1965
00:113:47.659 --> 00:113:50.939
And so I stopped wearing a cup
half a reason because of that. It's
1966
00:113:51.020 --> 00:113:54.420
like I wanted. I'd rather better
technique with my armbars. I mess you,
1967
00:113:54.500 --> 00:113:58.810
okay with that. Yeah, he's
also almost tapped me with his cup.
1968
00:113:58.970 --> 00:114:00.329
What I was yell, Pinch,
what I do something, and was
1969
00:114:00.609 --> 00:114:02.689
the hell you doing? What I
do with kid, because I go north
1970
00:114:02.729 --> 00:114:04.930
South and then I take up and, by Banging my cup up, agains
1971
00:114:04.970 --> 00:114:08.250
his forehead until he taps out.
That's my shit right. Yeah, guess
1972
00:114:08.250 --> 00:114:13.640
what, it's a really quick fucking
time right now. Definitely, absolutely so.
1973
00:114:14.039 --> 00:114:15.000
I just want to thank you for
coming on. Man, they know
1974
00:114:15.159 --> 00:114:18.239
it's awesome having thanks for invite me
a great interview. I appreciate that.
1975
00:114:18.359 --> 00:114:24.909
It really was so much actually useful
informations coming up our PODCAST. Done usually
1976
00:114:24.909 --> 00:114:27.510
happen. Ya, you get a
white bell blue belt trying to talk to
1977
00:114:27.510 --> 00:114:30.350
you, to us like what kind
of note we're talking about? Now?
1978
00:114:30.430 --> 00:114:31.510
We got me that actually does.
So, yeah, it's great. I
1979
00:114:31.630 --> 00:114:33.590
hope. I hope somebody out a
little bit. You know. Hell,
1980
00:114:33.630 --> 00:114:39.380
yeah, I feel better about myself. No real reason. Yeah, my
1981
00:114:39.500 --> 00:114:43.020
mom, my mom is gonna love
this podcast. Are So little as weather
1982
00:114:43.100 --> 00:114:46.539
people, so little swearing. I
get in trouble for swearing by his mother.
1983
00:114:46.579 --> 00:114:49.779
Oh yeah, yeah, that's right. I don't know. I kind
1984
00:114:49.779 --> 00:114:54.329
of got kind of got a bite
the lip more with all the kids classes
1985
00:114:54.329 --> 00:114:57.770
that teach. Now having the on
your kids classes gotten, oh my gosh,
1986
00:114:57.850 --> 00:115:00.770
it's freaking I'm not kidding. It's
a hurdle cattle when they're running.
1987
00:115:00.810 --> 00:115:02.449
That's crazy. It's gotta be like
hurting cats. After a while it's like
1988
00:115:02.529 --> 00:115:04.970
what do you do with like thirty
five kids? Like it's a lot.
1989
00:115:05.529 --> 00:115:09.439
It's a lot and it's awesome.
You don't want to. And you know
1990
00:115:09.840 --> 00:115:12.600
what, I got that award.
They gave me a but you guys gave
1991
00:115:12.600 --> 00:115:15.199
me the things that. Yeah,
it's from all you guys do and you
1992
00:115:15.239 --> 00:115:18.399
know, it's well well done.
I really appreciate you all a lot of
1993
00:115:19.760 --> 00:115:23.750
I've never gotten like that before.
So so. So what we're talking about
1994
00:115:24.069 --> 00:115:30.590
is the whole school got together and
well, your Buddy Travis and his family
1995
00:115:30.710 --> 00:115:32.949
was the one that kind of spearheaded
it, which was awesome because we all
1996
00:115:33.029 --> 00:115:39.260
wanted to do something like that and
gave him award for being just Chad.
1997
00:115:39.500 --> 00:115:42.140
Dude, what you did and doing
what you do and teaching our kids and
1998
00:115:42.340 --> 00:115:45.819
directing our family. You sacrifice a
lot. How do yes, you do.
1999
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We under stand that. Like,
yeah, fulltime job, you got
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a wife, you got three kids
and then you go when you learn from
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curler down in Indiana and you come
back up to grand rapid just you know,
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it's a lot of time out of
your life to do to teach and
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give us an environment that we can
learn this awesome art. So yeah,
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we all appreciate it. So thank
you. So that's what he's sorry about.
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We gave he got an award.
It's because name matched on it.
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It's really pretty, it's nice and
the gym. Yes, and yeah,
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we got the best coach in the
world. So suck it. Thanks you
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guys. Yeah, I guess the
shot. Throw it out there. If
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you ever done e'l Card Indiana swing
by coral gracis school or go to coral
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Gracis, just docom or, if
you're in grand rapids are he hit up
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a Blacklandag just tocom where at seven
hundred and Sixty Street, Byron Center.
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Yeah, and we're in the black
line studios. You didn't choose that,
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but we did, so we're good, great, and you ever want to
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know anything about the classes there,
you can let Chad know, but,
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more importantly, you can let me
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Dad'scom there. You Go, come
see us and Chad will be back.
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He doesn't really have a fucking choice. We're doing this shit, so
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So all right, everybody's dead.
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We're back again with another episode of
the Grappling Dad's podcast with our first guest,
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Chad Bom Malory. How's it going, guys? Real quick, way
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to break your rule immediately. Heat
saying that, stupid leadin. Yeah,
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I didn't. Very next. I
literally have no idea what else to do.
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Very next episode. It's professional.
That's sounds good. They no,
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no, it doesn't cool. So
this is this is going to be the
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the ice breaking of our awesome or
semi awesome interviews. Yes, so lucky
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you, Chado. I feel special. You should. You popping our cherry.
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I like that. It gets awkward. I did have a lot of
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questions that I wrote down. First
question, Chad, are you seriously?
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He's going to write it like that? Well, you couldn't just make a
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conversation. I have to. This
is just do we just meet, Chad.
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I actually thought of this on the
way home from work, because this
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wasn't going to be different. Questions. Not You change that. I did.
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I did, Oh boy, during
live rolling, Chad. On a
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scale of one to ten, how
guilty do you feel when you heal hook
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a helpless blue belt such is myself
like? Ten being real guilty. Yes,
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zero, God damn, that's a
change for the white belt that you
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did it to the other day.
No, didn't think so. Now I
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don't even know. I did do
him more or less what I'm doing it.
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It's just for my training, I
guess you could say. I want
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to be able to since I'm competing
on a higher level. I want to
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be able to see those see it
coming in, or I see it coming
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but see it opening to where I
could hit it if I wanted to.
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And that's when I was telling you, when we were rolling, that you
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know I won't crank it. You
know what I mean. I'll I'll get
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it to where I know I got
a good grip of the heel, but
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I'm not going to. I won't
go anything past that with you on anybody
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like Justin probably the only person I
do it with. Do you like how
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I screamed like a Korean school boy
every time you get in position, like
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yeah, you're like, dude,
just about not going to do it.
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Yeah, I hurt you. I
see trying not to. Yeah, I'M
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gonna say try see if to move
word. Once I had they had a
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bad I had a bad instant a
long time ago with Ben. We're all
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ring. Yeah, that was right
out. He told me, not right
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after we started. I did hear
about it. Yeah, tell me.
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Oh, no, this was a
long this was no as long time ago.
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Yeah, it told me about it
right never he started. Him and
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I were trained him and we were
I was just practice out, same thing
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I was doing so as practice and
heel hooks and he didn't really know.
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He, I mean Brent been was
fresh at the time, okay, and
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I was just kind of drilling it
and we started rolling a little bit soide
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slap the heel hook on, didn't
even crank it and he turned with everything
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I had totally wrong. So he'll
hold himself. Yeah, he screwed up
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and screwed it himself. So that's
why I kind of, like I said,
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I kind of get real. I'm
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hurt. I mean that was a
haven't heard anybody saying not. I got
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a wood would, so that's fine. But yeah, we I don't.
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I try to just watch it.
I'll let go a real quick and I
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just, like I said, just
try to see if I get my farm
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and if I wanted to frank and
I could just remark less than my training
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purposes in yere an. He looks
like you, by the way. That's
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fine. He always just looks like
your little smile, like could break you,
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and those are yeah, I try
not to get but hurt with the
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heel huoks, but I'm like,
God damn it, not again. It's
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just it's definitely something you're going to
want to start messing with, you know,
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the higher rank and yeah, you
know, I mean as far as
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you know, if you don't ever
want to compete and things like that.
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Yeah, I mean, it's not
like you have to Dome Right, you
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know, I mean a street fighting, things like that, you're probably not
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going to heal. Well, did
you see the street fight where some guy
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used to he'll look to win in
that basketball. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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I see holds ankles like dude,
yeah, I'm never play basketball again.
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And Yeah, that was awesome.
Yeah, I was a huge fan
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of that and we watch that together. That's so. Yeah, yeah,
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another game moment. Exactly. So, when you're when you're training, because
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you're the coach, so typically that
means that you're the best there. How
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do you keep pushing yourself to a
higher level? Um, because there's nobody
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really there to push you super hard, like you know, I would assume
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that you need. I don't know. I find myself, I try to
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say, pretty humble and I have
that like I'm better than everybody kind of
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attitude. I understand that. Oh
yeah, nobody feels there. Jim,
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he's just asking Um question to me. Like I'll try to do certain things,
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like I'm only gonna I'll try to
play off my back or that's like.
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Or maybe have you guys getting a
dominant position or just things like that,
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and if I don't get out,
you know, I'll try it on
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another guy. As far as this, the caliber of the people I'm rolling
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with, I mean I feel that
maybe I'll just let you guys getting getting
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better positions, or let you ask
my guard, things like that more or
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less, and then see if I
can get out of them. or I'll
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just try to do certain things,
either be some kind of new move,
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I'm trying to hit you. If
I might not, it might not tell
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you what I'm going to do,
but I'm going to try to do it.
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I don't yeah, and if I
don't hit it, at least I'm
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you know, I'm thinking about it
right. Yep, as far as I
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mean, as far as that.
I mean I just the biggest thing.
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I mean I don't try to just
stop anybody at the gym. Justin and
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I get to get at it pretty
good though. Justin Andrews. Yeah,
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he's like one guy your size.
Yeah, it's two bears rolling around.
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Yeah, clear the freaking room.
So yeah, you both tell the watch.
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So yeah, but I used to
try to get down with coral and
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train with him like every Friday.
I used to drive down there a while
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back before we had vehicle issues,
but I was down there roll with him
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Victor and all his, okay,
his guys. That's kind of that was
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kind of my way from the gym
try to roll on with a little higher
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caliber guys. Does he have a
lot of higher belts down there? He's
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got victor, which he's a four
straight brown belt. He came up,
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yeah, as man one time.
This guy, Super Nice Guy. Yeah,
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he's got Claude and Robert Brothers.
They're both think Claude's probably he's got
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to be right around a maybe a
three or four straight purple belt by now.
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And I think Robert's right. I
think he's just straight. He's a
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purple belt them. And then there's
Lucas. Lucas just got his brown belt
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down there. There's a few Er. There's a handful of other guys,
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you know. They're really good to
roll with, cool and all different sizes.
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You know, all the guys there's
some guys are all got different styles,
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you know, so every different guy
you roll it's kind of get acting,
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I can you know makes it.
You look at for you like a
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favorite, like somebody your size and
way R do you like? We're all
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bigger guys, are smaller guys?
Or doesn't it really matter? M It
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doesn't really matter, I don't think. If I'm wrong with somebody bigger,
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I think I'll use my pressure and
things like that a little bit more and
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kind of work more of more things. are going to buy, like a
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little bit more neon belly types,
Yep, and just kind of work on
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my pressure or trying to keep keeping
a dominant position. That makes sense because,
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yeah, if I'm wrong with somebody
obviously lighter in me, you know,
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I'm not just going to smash him
down to the ground. You I'll
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try to move a little bit and
get a position. That's kind of yeah,
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when I was telling you guys the
other day, when we were at
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the gym towards the end. It's, you know, letting people move a
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little bit and then go from there. Got Yea, because I'm wrong with
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what's his face? Robert? Robert. Yeah, you know, and I
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got he thought he was like.
I think he's like, I'm like one
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hundred and fifteen. Oh my God, kids, he's actually smaller than your
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wife getting yeah, that's I thought
my wife was the smallest, but that's
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about ten pounds. I was I
think I was the tiniest human there,
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maybe me or been, but then
he came in, him like a not
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the smallest anymore. I was like, man, I'm almost got about a
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hundred pounds on this. Yeah,
you know. So it's like and I
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got on top of them, things
like that, and I I was going
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across the mountain, things like that. It wasn't really putting on them right.
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You know. I'll let him,
yeah, try to get out and
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escape and things like that and just
you know, I'm not there to be
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a bully out a lot of times
it's just I try to get with everybody
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at the gym. Just try to
get into position and wait for you to
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see if something clicks. Gotch it
for you to get out of it or
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you know. Yeah, I remember
that escape or whatever, that move from
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here, you know, and and
that's I try to do that with all
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the just the lower ranking kind of
guys. Yeah, just so to help
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them get better. You know,
I mean because, like curler said the
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other day, it's my goal is
to get you guys better so where it
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makes it harder for me. You
know. Yep, I want to get
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good enough to where I'm giving curler
a hard roll. You know what I
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mean? I probably never bet to
tap the guy out, but I want
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to get in some work for you. I want to get it to where
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you know it he's I'm not just
not giving him my arm on my neck.
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Yeah, you know, every thirty
seconds when we're rolling. When you
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were rolling, it was it was
like look, yeah, it was fun.
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You didn't, from from outside looking, it look like a good roll.
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I'll tell you this. I think
I watched you shortly after I start.
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It was the first time he came
over. You kind of rolled with
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curler. M You looked way more
comfortable this time. Yeah, don't know
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if you were, doesn't really matter. Ayear makes it a bit different.
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Yeah, I'm munch yeah, whatever's
been. Yeah, no, curler and
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curlers helped me out a lot.
As far as my Jiujitsu, just I
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used to be real muscly and just
seat strength everything and just I don't know,
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I wasn't using a lot of technique
and I was just trying to overpower
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everybody and I was getting gassed and
things of her yeah, I was getting
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hurt injured a lout of the gym. Yep, and since I started training
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with him it's kind of helped me. I to realize that, you know,
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it's if I get swept or get
caught in a bad position, you
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know, stay calm and kind of
yeah, okay, what can I do
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from here? You know, because
we're him and I were rolling a while
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back and he was mounting me like
crazy. He'd mought me and I try
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to escape and I might get out
and he's mounting me again and he'd try
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to start slapping things on me,
chokes and arm bars and stuff like that,
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and then we rolled cast. It
wasn't this last time, maybe the
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time before. You came up one
time and he was going mound again and
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I was just I was just kind
of trying to stay still and like all
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right. What can I do?
And he's attacking me, but I'm kind
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of controlling the position. He's still
on top, but he did it.
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Wasn't getting he wasn't spitting me,
you know. So you know, that
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helped out, having him, you
know, trying to you know, getting
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down to me. Said, Hey, do you know, just because you're
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in a bad position doesn't mean you
can, you know, defend, you
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know, and work out of there
instead the playing around and going crazy,
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which is funny because you taught me
that a long time ago. To stay
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calm. Yeah, Oh, yeah, I like right after I started your
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like you you're doing good if you
stop freaking out. Oh, it's definitely
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tough. I mean when you get
put in a bad when you get somebody
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sitting on top of you, you
know, and in you, you know,
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and you're into the bad position like
then, you you don't know nothing
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right. You know you're going to
freak out because you don't know what to
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do. You know, and the
longer and longer I've been been doing it,
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you know, if you watch,
just watch coralrole, you know,
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if y'all know, if you got
all you guys roll with them the other
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day, right, hmm, I
didn get a chance. I didn't,
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but I had this time. About
to have in the past. I mean
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he'll let you mount them, side
control whatever. You know, he just
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kind of hangs out and waits for
you to screw up. Yeah, his
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his posture and positioning in a bad
position. He doesn't really have to move.
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He lets you move to make your
mistake where he can absolutly escape easily
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and you almost have to do you
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He is so patient in the best
way possible. So annoying he was.
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He kept putting his hand on my
forehead or trying to, but I knew
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that from the prior time. Like
no, no, not doing it.
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Yeah, ended up doing it and
you grab my wrist. I was done.
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He's getting he's getting pretty wigo with
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I'm afraid even touch the man.
So, yeah, the first time I
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try to grab his collarie wrist lock
me in like a half a second over.
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The next time rolled I'm I'm like
grabbing his pants again. I don't
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else. Yep, yeah, he's
good. He's a he's a definitely awesome
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instructor and awesome to training, for
sure. How did you. How did
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you meet him? So Rob Mascoll
was a one of my instructors from a
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while, long time ago and he
hoped he had had a school here in
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grand rapids and he was like hitting
miss, he can come in, he'd
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be gone. He might come in
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times I was teaching classes and things
like that. That cover for him.
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Okay. Well, he ended up
it wasn't hauling, God for he ended
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up moving out to spring lake,
out that way and he had a started
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another small school and then it kind
of closed down. I recently kind of
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got out of the military shortly before
that and I wanted to I want to
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get back in the train and rob
was too far to go train with.
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So I ended up training at a
school here in town, but for about
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a year and a half maybe,
okay, and it was it was okay.
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I mean, I don't want to
I don't like talking bad about it.
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Well, yeah, sometimes they're just
it's not the right school. Feah.
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Yeah, yeah, it's orientate.
Yeah, if it's running it towards
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competition, you're not into that,
or if it's you know, just yeah,
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sometimes it's not going to fit.
Yeah, it's a that school.
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It's just, yeah, persons,
is basically what it was. It this
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wasn't a good fit. You know, I got along with everybody, I
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just didn't feel comfortable. Every time
I want to class, right, I
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didn't. I didn't get excited to
go to class. I wanted to train,
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but it's like I wasn't like sweet, you know, right, let's
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go go to the gym, to
the No, yea excited to do it.
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So I kind of had a small, somewhat of a fallen out with
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the instructor there. He kind of
said something that kind of sent me over
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the edge and I was like,
you know, I said I'm I'm just
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done, and I I sold all
my toys. I sold my seventy four
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DART sport, I sold my Camaro, so my Harley old man, no,
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sold all my toys that I had
and end up starting to school on
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seventy six and one hundred and thirty
one, and we called it West Machine
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Combat Club and it was just basically
just kind of going to be a place
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to kind of train and roll and
dine and just kind of work out with
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guys and pretty much just punch each
other in the face. Yeah, more
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of a fight club when you started? Or was it Jiujitsu? You know,
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it was more do. It was
more JIU Jitsu base. Okay,
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we still did we did pad work
and things like that. We sparred a
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little bit here and there, but
it was it was more Jiu Jitsu.
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And then I did that for we
were there for probably three months maybe,
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and rob ended up taking a job
down in Indiana. I'm not sure what
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he was doing, like carpentry or
something like. They took a job down
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in Indiana and he called. He's
like hey, man, there's there's a
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couple of schools around here, you
know, do Jujitsu, and we're just
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kind of bullshit and I was like, Oh wow, that's cool and he's
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like yeah, it's a one of
them guys down here is a Alio,
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gracie's grandson's right. Yeah, I
was like Oh wow. He's like yeah,
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its names, names. He couldn't
even PRONU. Seems like he was
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a hoiler corely on. He couldn't
a pronounce the name. Is Oh wow,
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yeah, and he's like yeah,
he's like I called him and set
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up a class or a private or
something with them and he's like yeah,
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I got it. Tomorrow or something
like all right, that's cause I will
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call me. Let me know how
it went. And he called me the
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next day and he's like, dude, I got manhandled. And like when
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rob told me that, like because
Rob Masco, back in his day,
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it was he was. He was
like it, yeah, he was.
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He was the toughest dude. I
knew. He's a big dude to is.
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Yeah, yeah, strong, tough. Yeah, I mean him,
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it wouldn't because when we were training
back in two thousand and seven, two
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thousand and eight, you know he
was. He was are instructor. Okay's
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just a beast nice. And I
was like there ain't no way. You
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know, they didn't no way.
Rob, yeah, I got man he's
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like. He's like no, Chad, he's like no, he's like this
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dude mop the floor with me now, kid, and I was like really,
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and rob's forty two. He's like, yeah, this dude's only like
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twenty three years old, twenty two
years old, like, Cra as,
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are you kidding me? Yeah,
he's like. Yeah, he's like hey,
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he's like, let's get him up
to your place for a seven are.
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It's like, all right, cool. And now he said it all
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up okay, and if you go
back on my facebook, on my pit,
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on my just my personal one.
Right, go back to the old
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pictures. Yeah, we see Crowler
and the old place coming up for that
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seminar. We took a bunch of
pictures. Ben's a white belt and I'll
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ill, wow, I'm going to
check that out. Yeah, so he
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came up and, you know,
introduce himself. There was only maybe,
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maybe twelve people showed up. Adam
was there, been was there. I'm
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trying to think who else was there. Maybe Shanna, a lot of a
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lot of the other people aren't training
no more. But so we did the
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seminar and we went up rolling.
He ended up, you know, making
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a mop with me out of floor, just beating the crap on of me
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and just, I don't know,
put on them on. Put it.
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Tell me how after the seminar he
ended up leaving and before he took off
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I was hey, I'm going to
come down next weekend and I want a
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private. So he's like all right. So we set it all up and
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I came down a Saturday morning and
we did a private and got to talk
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it and then as like hey,
I don't know what it take to be
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affiliate with you. I was like, but I'm interested, and he drew
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up a contract and we went.
I was his first affiliate and wow,
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been there, been ever since.
So I was back in two thousand and
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twelve. Very cool to then.
Yeah, that would we to interrupt and
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change the subjects a little bit,
but we have all this whiskey set in
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front of us we haven't touched.
Yeah, let's kind of us again.
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Pop Up Pillar, pop a pillar
and I'm gonna give it a little swig
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and it smells spectacular. Is So
I'm not keep talking. So it's not
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just dead are idiots drinking. That's
pretty good. That's pretty good as tasty.
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There's my turn. Your turn.
Definitely got good flavor. Well,
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Burnie, it is. Yeah,
so bad. Yeah, it's a little
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Bernie, but not bad. Oh, I got I got mine upstairs.
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It actually a little bit more harsh, but this has what you're saying Augustine's.
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Yeah, that one's definitely harsher in
the yeah, but yeah, this
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is good. I like that bad. I'M A fan. Yeah, but
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for sure it's a little colder at
by, a little bit more like coal,
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a little bit bites my sen.
I like my temperature castle Tim Sixty
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five degrees. No, perfect.
It's such a Pansy. I know you
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can't. You can't water it down, though, then you don't get out
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of the flavor. I don't know. I just like it cold. Yeah,
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those like I also like it colder. It's the chill. But I
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don't really have a choice because I
don't pour my own drinks here. So,
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yeah, I don't want anything of
my drinks now. Use Hand them
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to me. So that's that's what
I do. I like water my drink
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now. I can't. I can't
help it. Yeah, but they do
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had to make up for his pansiness
with being manly about his whiskey. They
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do have. He's family miserably,
but that's okay. Have you heard about
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whiskey rocks? Yeah, yeah,
so pro tip for him. If you
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use those, don't use more than
one because they'll stick to the bottom than
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once you tip it so far back
they'll come and smash into your teeth.
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It's a great team chack actual rocks. Yeah, yes, it's granted.
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They're a little their little squares of
grant and they look like dice. Die,
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dice, die is singular dice.
Dice is the plural. Gotcha,
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Nice. How I know that?
Yes, my last can imagine. It's
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weird, right. All right,
so, yeah, thinks are the whiskey
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Chad. That's all. Yeah,
it's really good. Thanks for writing me
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on the show, guys. Thank
you. Oh, you want a sweet
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question. So Paul's questions are real
question. Yeah, mine, on the
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other hand, are not. Okay, so, on a scale to one
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to ten, how horrible am I? And negative numbers are acceptable. I
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mean, this is not starting off
well. He's having to think. I'm
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sing backwards. Man, what's negative? Seven Times that by forty. Carry
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the two. I mean, I
wouldn't start judging yourself now. Personally,
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I mean, since it's only been
what, cool weeks? Couple months maybe?
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Yeah, it's been like two weeks. Two weeks. That was my
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favorite thing you've ever done to me, every freaking time. So, oh,
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yeah, he's new, he's been
your two weeks. My it's been
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like six months. Whatever. Knows
that? To shrimps, YEA, the
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first year's kind of wash. Yeah, I mean, Oh, yeah,
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for sure. I mean it's good
to be hard on yourself when trying.
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I'm going to make you want to
keep training, you know, but you're
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not. I mean you're I think
you know you're on track. You know,
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the biggest thing for you is,
you know, just getting the basics
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down, getting basic positions down,
getting warmups down. You know, get
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some guard passes down, things like
that, some escapes and this kind of
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keep going from there. Once it's
going to take at least a good year
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to ill, thinks start clicking,
I think. Anyway. Huh, I
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mean, you're going to be getting
swept and tapped and smashed, and once
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things start clicking and your body starts
reacting to the movements, that's when I'll
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start geting a lot easier, a
little bit more fun. Right now it's
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kind of like, Oh no,
I've fun smashed, I don't care what
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it would it have fun. Would
it take for you to get past the
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muscling everything? Was it like a
oneday thing, or did you slowly gradually
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start to not for stuff anymore?
I think it got to the point where
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I was muscling too much against guys
that were a lot smaller than me and
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I was getting tired and these little
guys were just like mopping the for me.
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Hmm, nice, excuse me,
and I just I was like,
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you know what, I'm getting tired
of an O reason should be getting tired.
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And then, well, I think
another thing too is rolling with corailer,
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because he's not since he's not,
you know, he's big guy too,
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know Um, and just how easy
it was for him to be able
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to move and seeing him to where
he doesn't really break a sweat, right,
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you know. So to me that
all kind of it all kind of
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really click with corailer. Really before
that it was it was still I mean
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I was training for I started training
in two thousand and six and we met
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curling in two thousand and twelve,
you know. So for those six years
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of training it was all just muscle
and I think was training with him kind
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of help to get all right,
I need to stop all this and just
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focus on the technique and if I
can't hit it, you know, don't
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rely on the stretch to try to
get it. You know, I mean
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just let go, you know.
Or just if they're going to if the
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instead of strengthen the getting said,
I was like somebody like me out strengthen
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somebody if they're like got me an
Armbar, something like that, and audust
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tap instead of maybe next time I
can time it better. To where I
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can escape the arm right, you
know, because a lot of times people
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give me an armbars and I just
try to curl them up and stack them
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or see. Yeah, and you
know, now I think I kind of
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focus on where my hands and things
like that according to this with, you
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know, my opponent, you know. So I really kind of focus on
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my position and things like that,
to where I'm not getting caught and things
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like that. How am I where
my elbows at? How is my posture?
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And it's I focus on that more
so I'm defending less because I'm not
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getting caught as much. So and
then by not getting cause as much and
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trying to fight out of things,
I'm not really getting that tired. That
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it makes sense, you know.
Yeah, really, thing you told me,
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or told the class at the beginning, is if you're at the end
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of rolls and relying up for class
and you have your hands on your knees
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because you can't catch your breath,
you're probably using way too much strength.
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Like you shouldn't be that tired after
your roll don't look a good sweat and,
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you know, breathing hard but not
exhausted. Yeah, or a heavy
387
00:22:14.509 --> 00:22:15.819
sweater. If for me, yeah, I mean I do that during warmups
388
00:22:17.900 --> 00:22:22.819
well, when it's like a hundred
ten degrees in there. Yeah, I
389
00:22:22.900 --> 00:22:26.339
mean it's I mean if we're doing
like a card competition class, you know,
390
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and and somebody got a tournament or
something like, Somebody's competing, someone's
391
00:22:30.849 --> 00:22:33.609
coming up, you know, I'm
I'll I'll ramp it up a little bit
392
00:22:33.609 --> 00:22:37.009
more to where I maybe I'll stop
relying on that technique. I mean I'll
393
00:22:37.049 --> 00:22:40.009
rely on to take me a lying
lot relying on. I'll use some strength
394
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to kind of just kind of keep
moving and keep pushing really instead of just
395
00:22:42.849 --> 00:22:45.359
waiting for the instead of the kind
of hanging out away for this person to
396
00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:48.000
move or script so I can get
out, I'll just kind of keep pushing
397
00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:49.960
it to kind of elevate my heart
rate just because I want to sense.
398
00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:52.720
Yes, want to get the cardio
in more or less and keep my heart
399
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going, you know, because obviously
you guys knowing a competition or any compete
400
00:22:56.400 --> 00:22:59.069
in you know it's you walk on
the man before it even starts in your
401
00:22:59.109 --> 00:23:02.230
heart rates are yeah, Oh yeah, Oh yeah, your adrenalines pomp on.
402
00:23:02.349 --> 00:23:04.589
Oh Yeah, force. I try
to. I'll try to do stuff
403
00:23:04.630 --> 00:23:07.470
like that. If I know I'm
getting ready compete to try to keep my
404
00:23:07.549 --> 00:23:10.349
heart rate really high and I'm not
going to keep my heart right high I'm
405
00:23:10.390 --> 00:23:12.339
just hanging out, you know,
on my back and just playing around,
406
00:23:12.380 --> 00:23:15.660
you know, I'll try to push
it a little harder and just kind of
407
00:23:15.940 --> 00:23:18.180
force a lot of things just to
keep my heart rate going. Do you
408
00:23:18.259 --> 00:23:22.779
think rolling with the lower belts and
going easy atem teaches yourself bad habits,
409
00:23:22.140 --> 00:23:26.819
like when you're letting people do stuff
to you? Or you'll don't think that
410
00:23:26.900 --> 00:23:29.650
matters? No, I don't think
it matters because you're aware of it.
411
00:23:32.089 --> 00:23:34.289
That's just like how like when I'm
rolling with newer guys, you know,
412
00:23:34.369 --> 00:23:37.849
I'll get to a position and just
let them escape, you know what I
413
00:23:37.930 --> 00:23:41.680
mean, or get to Guar if
i'Mun to let him hip. I love
414
00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:45.640
the amount escape and you get to
guard and just not that I wouldn't be
415
00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:47.759
able to keep the position, but
at the same time it's like, you
416
00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:51.119
know what, I know I can
hold this guy down. Yeah, what's
417
00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:52.839
what's it going to benefit me?
So you're trying to be as technical as
418
00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:56.630
possible, but just really back enough
the guy. Yeah, I mean that's
419
00:23:56.630 --> 00:24:00.029
kind of like I told you guys
the other day when we were in class.
420
00:24:00.190 --> 00:24:03.230
Is like if I'm going for a
sweep or I'm going for a pass
421
00:24:03.269 --> 00:24:07.190
or I'm going for I'll go and
keep good pressure until I complete the sweeper
422
00:24:07.230 --> 00:24:08.789
I complete the pass. Yeah,
you know, that way I'm not getting
423
00:24:08.789 --> 00:24:12.740
sloppy in between my techniques and then
once I get to like side control or
424
00:24:12.740 --> 00:24:15.660
if I get them own or I
get to a position to where I know
425
00:24:15.180 --> 00:24:18.299
I can control this dude and be
real have real good pressure, I'll let
426
00:24:18.339 --> 00:24:21.980
up a little bit and then,
you know, let them get out or
427
00:24:22.019 --> 00:24:25.849
let them move. Yeah, that
way, it's just but I mean,
428
00:24:25.849 --> 00:24:30.890
suppose a Lord, would you like
Justin and sometimetimes you Paul the other guy.
429
00:24:32.210 --> 00:24:34.289
You know, I just I don't
you know, I'll kyll kind of
430
00:24:34.289 --> 00:24:37.289
keep it on you the whole time. That's because I want to see where
431
00:24:37.289 --> 00:24:41.119
you're at. You know, Jesse's
the same way. You know, I
432
00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:45.359
want to I want to go hard
to at the same time, but it's
433
00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:47.039
like I kind of pick and choose, you know. Yeah, how are
434
00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:48.519
you going to roll with me today? You know, kind of thing.
435
00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:49.319
You know, you want to go
hard and I kind of wait. I
436
00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:52.869
kind of wait to feel how I
I'll Justin's always gonna roll hard, no
437
00:24:52.990 --> 00:24:56.349
matter what. Always. Yeah,
I'm kind of he kind of does that
438
00:24:56.470 --> 00:24:59.750
with everybody. Yeah, heat and
I appreciate I love it, because he
439
00:24:59.869 --> 00:25:03.710
does what I want to do,
because he has, I can't say similar
440
00:25:03.710 --> 00:25:07.339
body because he's an Adonis compared to
me, but he's longed. He's long
441
00:25:07.380 --> 00:25:11.460
as a giant. Yeah, he's
tryant. It's crazy. Cardios, it
442
00:25:11.579 --> 00:25:15.420
readers, because I'll roll with Ben
and been experiments a lot. Like he's
443
00:25:15.460 --> 00:25:18.980
technical, but he just tries a
lot of stuff and it's always it always
444
00:25:18.980 --> 00:25:21.690
feels a bit like a flow roll, no matter how hard we go.
445
00:25:22.130 --> 00:25:25.049
It's just, you know, we
do have similar styles. So I'll get
446
00:25:25.049 --> 00:25:27.890
done rolling with Ben and then I'll
roll with like Jesse and Jesse has this
447
00:25:29.329 --> 00:25:36.160
super tight pressure technical. Yeah,
and I can't, I can't try stuff
448
00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:38.720
with him if I don't bring my
a game hundred percent. It's just a
449
00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:42.440
quick, easy tap for you got
to catch Jesse when he's not expecting it.
450
00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:45.480
Yeah, yeah, he's real technical. Oh, yeah, she's got
451
00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:48.359
good grip, he's got good control. He kind of know, he knows
452
00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:51.750
where his body is at and where
your bodies are. He is aware of
453
00:25:51.869 --> 00:25:53.029
every yeah, pretty much all the
Oh, yeah, and you can feel
454
00:25:53.029 --> 00:25:56.750
that. It's interesting how he just
shuts down my defense because, you know,
455
00:25:56.869 --> 00:25:59.509
I don't I kind of pride myself
on my defense. I work on
456
00:25:59.589 --> 00:26:02.789
that really hard just to be you
know, are quotes untappable? Yeah,
457
00:26:02.990 --> 00:26:06.619
but yeah, he'll just kind of
methodically shut down. You know, you
458
00:26:06.660 --> 00:26:08.140
do the same thing, obviously,
but you know, he'd just go from
459
00:26:08.180 --> 00:26:11.460
one thing to another, just slowly
take away out my space in pretty soon
460
00:26:11.500 --> 00:26:15.019
there's no more defense left. Yeah, Jesse's Jesse's just he's a good role
461
00:26:15.099 --> 00:26:19.250
just he's fun to train with.
Jesse and I were tested together when he
462
00:26:19.369 --> 00:26:22.769
tested first prop and I tested for
my brawn and him and I like,
463
00:26:22.769 --> 00:26:26.210
Gosh, three four days a week, like it was just him and I.
464
00:26:26.490 --> 00:26:30.890
Yeah, working out is drilling moves
every we did it every Saturday for
465
00:26:30.369 --> 00:26:33.319
like an hour and a half.
Him and I would just get together every
466
00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:37.200
Saturday and this drill moves and positions
and all the test requirements thing. Like
467
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:41.240
we did that for like nine months, right, you know, just getting
468
00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:42.640
trying to get ready for it.
You know, in between, you know
469
00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:45.640
him to help me because he helps
cover classes, right Yep, and in
470
00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:49.470
between me teaching click meet myself teaching
class to you know. So it's yeah,
471
00:26:49.509 --> 00:26:52.710
it was. That was it.
That was tough. Justin. Jesse's
472
00:26:52.710 --> 00:26:56.829
a good dude. I've known Jesse
for I said, Guy, I think
473
00:26:56.869 --> 00:27:02.579
I met Jesse back in two thousand
seven maybe, Oh wow, two thousand
474
00:27:02.579 --> 00:27:06.460
and eight ish in there, back
when it was like fight club. Yeah,
475
00:27:06.619 --> 00:27:08.539
he's one of the nicest men I've
ever met in my life. The
476
00:27:08.779 --> 00:27:15.059
just a genuine yeah, genuinely just. He hugs me. Yeah, now,
477
00:27:15.259 --> 00:27:19.569
and it's awesome. Oh Wow,
he likes me. Weird. He's
478
00:27:19.609 --> 00:27:22.529
a good dude. He's Awesome Guy
Because he tells you what's in his head
479
00:27:22.529 --> 00:27:26.569
and what's in his heart. You
don't meet many guys that can pull that
480
00:27:26.650 --> 00:27:30.880
up. Yeah, it doesn't hurt
that he looks like you know, action
481
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:33.200
figure. Yeah, this, it
doesn't her does it bum you out,
482
00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:37.279
Chad, that you work out so
hard but you don't look anything like that
483
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:44.789
man is that doesn't get what I
want. We met Jesse we were training
484
00:27:44.869 --> 00:27:48.990
in a gym on Alpine. It
was there's a just a gym there and
485
00:27:48.990 --> 00:27:52.069
they had an empty racketball court.
It was all this kind of tore up,
486
00:27:52.430 --> 00:27:55.869
and that's what we actually threw down
some mats in there. Gotcha.
487
00:27:55.950 --> 00:27:59.380
Oh Wow, like taped up matts
on the walls. Oh Wow. And
488
00:28:00.259 --> 00:28:03.500
Jesse was actually lifting weights there when
I met him, and that's how Jesse
489
00:28:03.619 --> 00:28:06.740
started training, because he's seen us. Oh Wow. Then he kind of
490
00:28:06.740 --> 00:28:10.180
walked and he started training. Oh
really, yeah, nice and yeah.
491
00:28:10.220 --> 00:28:11.380
So he was already like a body. He was he used to be bigger.
492
00:28:11.380 --> 00:28:14.089
N He is now a kidding me
yere he. Oh yeah, he
493
00:28:14.210 --> 00:28:18.490
told me that he's bigger. is
now that the man is shredded. Yeah,
494
00:28:18.529 --> 00:28:21.809
we SCOMM Jesse the body. Oh, no, I I do.
495
00:28:22.369 --> 00:28:26.519
Yeah, drives them and he doesn't
like that. I don't care. And
496
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:30.480
he's pretty humble. He's great.
He's a great dude. He's extremely humble.
497
00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:33.480
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
we have the sweet joke of like
498
00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:37.759
trying to get him into her like
an American archimor group. Yeah, and
499
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:41.829
he just tightens and I can do
a push up on it, like I
500
00:28:41.869 --> 00:28:45.190
guys push ups. Sweet work.
Got This role. I'll go for a
501
00:28:45.230 --> 00:28:47.230
cross college joke from mountain. I'm
like, well, that's not going to
502
00:28:47.269 --> 00:28:48.750
work. He's defending it, so
I'll put both my hands on his arm
503
00:28:48.789 --> 00:28:52.390
and I'm ever all my weight,
which I means a hundred, seventy pounds
504
00:28:52.430 --> 00:28:55.589
whatever, but everything I got behind
it, and he just kind of like
505
00:28:56.619 --> 00:28:59.220
looking at me like what are you
doing? Yeah, Ya, gonna work.
506
00:28:59.460 --> 00:29:02.940
So so you give up. Yet
he's one of them guys like his
507
00:29:03.660 --> 00:29:06.180
arms, as biceps, are just
as big as as farms. It kind
508
00:29:06.180 --> 00:29:08.619
of go down. Yeah, Popeye
arm. Yeah, it's incredible. So
509
00:29:08.700 --> 00:29:11.769
I was gonna ask you about the
the testing that you mentioned. So you
510
00:29:12.009 --> 00:29:17.769
started off obviously where you you get
surprised by your belt, and now you
511
00:29:17.930 --> 00:29:21.170
get tested to get your belt.
Like do you like one better or or
512
00:29:21.490 --> 00:29:25.880
how hard was it to make that
transition? It was. It was simple
513
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:29.519
to make the transition, I think. I think I like seeing what the
514
00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:33.559
quote requirements are instead of just,
you know, getting it. You know,
515
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:36.440
or it's all of a sudden what
one day, you know, we
516
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:40.750
can struck your hands at to you, I think working for it, you
517
00:29:40.869 --> 00:29:45.750
know, learning the Gracie Jiu jitsu
program, you know, learning the learning
518
00:29:45.789 --> 00:29:49.309
Grace Jiu Jitsu. You know.
I think I believe you no more at
519
00:29:49.309 --> 00:29:52.309
the end of the day, you
know, because you'll get guys that are
520
00:29:52.309 --> 00:29:55.339
getting their belts just from because they
took first place at a tournament. Yeah,
521
00:29:55.380 --> 00:29:56.420
you know, things like that.
And Yeah, they might be good
522
00:29:56.420 --> 00:30:00.380
at a few moves. Oh yeah, and they might be winning tournaments.
523
00:30:00.380 --> 00:30:03.420
Maybe they got a wrestling bag on
or something like that, but they really
524
00:30:03.460 --> 00:30:04.980
don't know a lot. That makes
sense. Yet at the end of the
525
00:30:06.019 --> 00:30:10.529
day, it's strongly believe that it's
really no how strong or anything you are.
526
00:30:10.650 --> 00:30:12.490
So how much you know? If
I know, if I see,
527
00:30:12.490 --> 00:30:17.170
if we're rolling and I see you
setting something up and I can I meet
528
00:30:17.170 --> 00:30:18.369
always going for this. I'm going
to I know the counters. I'm going
529
00:30:18.410 --> 00:30:22.160
to counter with this. Yep.
So it's it's an it's a some's of
530
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.559
mind game really, you know.
That's why they call it like a game.
531
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:26.200
It's like a game of chess,
right. You know, it's not
532
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:30.200
physical, it's how much you it's
your tactic. It's tactical. When I
533
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:34.319
was rolling a coiler, we took
off and went to the restaurant and I'm
534
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:37.029
kind of always kind of bummed.
I was like man, you just you
535
00:30:37.109 --> 00:30:40.309
know, I stopped me in front
of everybody and I'm like trying to pick
536
00:30:40.390 --> 00:30:42.589
his brain, like man, dude, we cheered for every little and you
537
00:30:42.750 --> 00:30:45.950
did. We're like, Oh,
I think he breathed right. Yeah,
538
00:30:47.750 --> 00:30:48.309
but I was just trying to pick
his brain. You like, you know
539
00:30:48.390 --> 00:30:52.380
what, where'd I screw up?
And he's like he didn't. He's like
540
00:30:52.460 --> 00:30:56.259
you did just fine. He's like, I'm just better than you. Well,
541
00:30:56.380 --> 00:30:59.180
there you go, and I think
he was. He's like it's not
542
00:30:59.339 --> 00:31:00.779
nothing, she didn't do nothing wrong. He's like you're good. He's like,
543
00:31:00.819 --> 00:31:03.539
I'm just better. I'm like,
Oh, yeah, it's fair enough.
544
00:31:03.940 --> 00:31:07.210
And he said would I really I
really got to focus on is trying
545
00:31:07.250 --> 00:31:12.970
to have more than one thing I'm
thinking of at the same time. HMM,
546
00:31:14.130 --> 00:31:17.890
so if courler's mounted or something like
that, are and he goes for
547
00:31:17.930 --> 00:31:19.160
my collar or what am I going
to do from there? Okay, I
548
00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:22.640
can defend here. Or what if
he possibly goes for this, then I
549
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:23.440
can try to do this. So
it's like kind of having like two or
550
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:26.519
three things. Yeah, you know, it's kind of like, yeah,
551
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:30.440
he's kind of like the Bobby Fisher
of Jiu Jitsu. He's thinking so many
552
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:33.069
moves ahead. Yeah, well,
and you can see it. You can
553
00:31:33.230 --> 00:31:34.670
see it, and I'm that it's
head. I think that's part of the
554
00:31:34.670 --> 00:31:38.470
reason he stays so damn calm.
Is He goes, I know you're going
555
00:31:38.509 --> 00:31:42.470
to defend us and X Y Z. Yeah, and I'm going to retort
556
00:31:44.069 --> 00:31:47.259
with everything I know, and it's
awesome. Yeah, and that's the kind
557
00:31:47.259 --> 00:31:48.299
of he kind of put you in
a position where it's like coming up to
558
00:31:48.420 --> 00:31:52.579
a stop, like you know you're
going to go straight, left or right.
559
00:31:52.660 --> 00:31:53.940
Those are your options and he knows
the option you're going to take.
560
00:31:53.940 --> 00:31:56.380
So if you do a B or
c, he knows exactly what you're going
561
00:31:56.420 --> 00:32:00.339
to do when he has the next
thing for that it's or, if you're
562
00:32:00.380 --> 00:32:04.970
me, he just plays with you. Yeah, you kind of play everybody
563
00:32:05.009 --> 00:32:07.569
regardless. Well, yeah, if
you use old roles of me, he'll
564
00:32:07.609 --> 00:32:09.890
coach somebody else while he's well,
my ass. You had a full lunch
565
00:32:09.970 --> 00:32:15.920
conversation and I had to ask him
I could. Could you stop? I'm
566
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:19.200
right here, Bro, I'm right
right you coach me, I'm right here
567
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:24.039
underneath you. So that thing.
That's I know. I'm I'm I think
568
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:30.750
the test requirements are are a lot
better. Honestly, at the end of
569
00:32:30.750 --> 00:32:35.230
the day, I think too,
by doing, you know, being with
570
00:32:35.349 --> 00:32:38.990
Curler and having the program we have
with him that his grandfather and him,
571
00:32:39.190 --> 00:32:44.460
you know, brought through their family, that they developed. I think it's
572
00:32:44.500 --> 00:32:46.700
better to know than just going to
a competition type school and say, well,
573
00:32:46.740 --> 00:32:50.220
I'm going to compete and do all
this stuff, because at the end
574
00:32:50.220 --> 00:32:52.980
of the day, your if you
compete on a regular basis, you're going
575
00:32:52.980 --> 00:32:55.220
to be broke, you're going to
be hurt. Yeah, you know it.
576
00:32:55.220 --> 00:32:58.180
Yeah, for sure, you know, do you? You know?
577
00:32:58.220 --> 00:33:00.849
I'll plan on doing Jiujitsus the rest
of my life, you know, and
578
00:33:00.849 --> 00:33:04.130
I don't want to be sixty years
old, you know, and I was
579
00:33:04.170 --> 00:33:06.410
a and just not being a little
walk right because, you know, I,
580
00:33:07.009 --> 00:33:08.730
you know, competed for yeah,
half my Clare. Oh Yeah,
581
00:33:08.730 --> 00:33:12.049
I'm I'll beat up on my fingers
are all messed up. I got cauliflyer
582
00:33:12.170 --> 00:33:15.440
like crazy and just you know,
I'll beat up and curled up. So
583
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:21.440
that I think having our style,
gracie style Jiujitsu, curler style Jiujitsu,
584
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:27.309
and having that program, you can
still learn Jiujitsu without, you know,
585
00:33:27.430 --> 00:33:30.750
having to compete if you don't want
to. Oh yeah, so he's fine
586
00:33:30.910 --> 00:33:34.630
and you're fine with somebody that knows
all the moves technically, but might not
587
00:33:34.789 --> 00:33:37.430
be out there whinning tournaments. So
so let's say there's a blue belt that
588
00:33:37.470 --> 00:33:40.349
used to wrestle all the time and
he's twenty five years old. He's built
589
00:33:40.349 --> 00:33:45.259
like Jesse the body, but he's
like a black belt and two or three
590
00:33:45.259 --> 00:33:47.259
moves, but he's a white belt
and everything else, but he has his
591
00:33:47.299 --> 00:33:51.660
blue belt. Then he comes and
he destroy somebody that got their blue belt
592
00:33:51.700 --> 00:33:54.579
through the curler or the gracie system
like that's that's not a problem, then
593
00:33:54.930 --> 00:33:59.450
I don't I don't think so.
No, I mean it's not that I
594
00:33:59.970 --> 00:34:06.170
honestly don't see somebody like that,
because we've had big wrestlers come into the
595
00:34:06.170 --> 00:34:10.039
school, you know. We've had
that young kid, eighteen, nineteen years
596
00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:14.400
old wrestler and Oh yeah, went
against Morgan, you know, and he
597
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:20.519
was heavy, heavy, strong dude
and Morgan would had to stop with her
598
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:22.519
submissions on him because he wasn't tapping, because he really wasn't know what they
599
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:24.590
are. And right, that's going
to break his arm. I did the
600
00:34:24.670 --> 00:34:29.110
same thing to him. You don't
all watch me. Literally I had to
601
00:34:29.110 --> 00:34:31.510
let go because I was breaking his
face. Yeah, and he I was
602
00:34:31.590 --> 00:34:35.710
like all right, dude, that's
I'm done. I don't think you'll get
603
00:34:35.750 --> 00:34:38.820
a guy that's good at one or
two moves and able to beat one of
604
00:34:38.860 --> 00:34:43.139
our guys, one of our blue
belts. I don't believe that. I
605
00:34:43.300 --> 00:34:45.420
think by because, like, we're
not just going to hand out belts.
606
00:34:45.739 --> 00:34:49.059
You know you're going to have to
earn it. You know you got it.
607
00:34:49.139 --> 00:34:52.420
You got an old positions, I
mean period when it comes to white
608
00:34:52.500 --> 00:34:55.969
to blue. You know you're learning
to set more the Selfdefense side of Jiu
609
00:34:57.010 --> 00:35:00.769
Jitsu right from white to blue.
Once you start getting a blue to purple
610
00:35:00.809 --> 00:35:02.690
and things like that, you know
now you're ending more. You know you
611
00:35:02.849 --> 00:35:06.730
had in more chokes, more locks. You know your transitions and things like
612
00:35:06.769 --> 00:35:10.239
that. I don't think you'll you'll
get another guy that's just going to come
613
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:13.519
in and just mop the floor with
any of the color belts at the school.
614
00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:15.800
That's cool. You know well and
if you think about it, it
615
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:20.719
makes sense because you to get your
blue in the system, you have to
616
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:23.070
have your basics, don't. Yeah, literally, you can't. I mean
617
00:35:23.110 --> 00:35:28.269
it's the biggest part of the Curriculim
is that is defending yourself. Yeah,
618
00:35:28.269 --> 00:35:30.949
I like the test. At first
I wasn't sure about it because I wasn't
619
00:35:30.949 --> 00:35:34.150
used to that. I'm used to
hey, you get surprised by it and
620
00:35:35.190 --> 00:35:37.820
that's just the way it was.
So yeah, how long were you're a
621
00:35:37.860 --> 00:35:42.340
white belt? Eight years, I
said. Yeah, well, I mean
622
00:35:42.340 --> 00:35:44.340
it was on, it off.
I got heat. Says that, but
623
00:35:44.460 --> 00:35:46.219
it was on for like six eight
months. So most of the time he
624
00:35:46.300 --> 00:35:50.449
was training. Just want to get
that clear, because Paul bitches about that
625
00:35:50.489 --> 00:35:52.170
all the time, like no,
dude, it was okay, we'll give
626
00:35:52.210 --> 00:35:55.969
you seven years. I don't bitch
so much is it just kind just kind
627
00:35:57.010 --> 00:35:59.769
of funny now, because most people
they'll get a blue bell a year,
628
00:35:59.769 --> 00:36:01.690
year and a half, two years
Max if they if they train what two
629
00:36:01.690 --> 00:36:05.400
or three days a week? Yeah, and they're serious about it. I'm
630
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:08.079
thinking like three years for me minimum, and then there's being but yeah,
631
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:12.679
just knowing that if you know this
stuff and you're profession at it, then
632
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:15.920
you get a your next rink.
I think that's fantastic. You know idea.
633
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:19.150
You know, I when I started
Jiujutsu, I wasn't obviously under Coraler,
634
00:36:19.230 --> 00:36:21.030
so I you know, I was
given my blue belt and I was
635
00:36:21.070 --> 00:36:23.989
given my purple belt. Yep,
it always in the back of my head.
636
00:36:24.190 --> 00:36:27.909
It was like, I'm to my
did I really deserve it? Am
637
00:36:27.949 --> 00:36:36.059
I at that level? And now, being with curler and doing from what
638
00:36:36.179 --> 00:36:39.579
we do, what we do now
and the system we have, I don't
639
00:36:39.619 --> 00:36:45.340
have that doubt in my head anymore. You know, I feel I'm proficient.
640
00:36:45.500 --> 00:36:52.809
You know I've trained, you know
I've studied and drilled and even if
641
00:36:52.849 --> 00:36:55.769
I never compete again, and eventually
so, if I'd get my black belt
642
00:36:55.849 --> 00:36:59.570
someday, I'm not going to feel
like I don't deserve it right. Yeah,
643
00:36:59.610 --> 00:37:01.639
I mean, yeah, that's good
feeling. So I when I got
644
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:05.880
my brown belt, when I got
my Pearl Belt, I don't think I
645
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:07.639
wanted it, you know, I
didn't think I deserved it. I was
646
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:10.280
like there ain't no way. Wow, and I was just before. I
647
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:14.800
was always hasn't going other schools,
being a purple belt and just you know
648
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:15.909
what, if this Bluebell gets me
here, this white bell gets me.
649
00:37:15.989 --> 00:37:20.750
I always second guess my my skills. Yeah, I've talking you know before
650
00:37:22.389 --> 00:37:27.670
and now I that doesn't even cross
my line anymore. So I think just
651
00:37:27.829 --> 00:37:31.699
by earning it and, you know, drilling it, and I mean,
652
00:37:31.780 --> 00:37:37.059
like I said, at nine months
to just nothing but drilling and technique.
653
00:37:37.539 --> 00:37:40.260
You know, I feel, after
from at once, you get from once
654
00:37:40.340 --> 00:37:44.570
you start training for your purple and
you're doing all the transitions and things like
655
00:37:44.610 --> 00:37:45.690
that. I mean you got to
know, you know, you got to
656
00:37:45.769 --> 00:37:49.690
know least you know, six different
guard pass. You got to six different
657
00:37:49.690 --> 00:37:52.130
monascape. You got to know,
you got to know something from each position.
658
00:37:52.530 --> 00:37:54.449
You know, NE ON BELLY NOR
SOUTH HALF GUARD. You know,
659
00:37:54.809 --> 00:37:58.599
from the back. It's so it's
like where you going to put me now
660
00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:00.519
that I haven't drilled? Yes,
some sort of escape, as some sort
661
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:02.639
of move. So I hate,
yeah, I had to do to get
662
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:06.320
to this right. Yeah, it's
awesome, you know. That's what and
663
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:08.000
that's what I like about it's you're
not going to put me in a position
664
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:12.199
that I haven't been drilling. You
know, I might not have even if
665
00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:15.989
the dudes heavy or something like maybe
wear the same rank and he's really heavy.
666
00:38:15.989 --> 00:38:17.030
And Yeah, I got, you
know, three or four different escapes
667
00:38:17.429 --> 00:38:20.469
and I maybe, you know,
I maybe not hit one. Might not
668
00:38:20.550 --> 00:38:23.150
hit one, but I'm not going
to second guess that I wouldn't be able
669
00:38:23.150 --> 00:38:28.300
to get out right. You know. Yeah, that isn't so it's that's
670
00:38:28.579 --> 00:38:31.860
I love having the program that we
do. Some people don't. We've had
671
00:38:31.860 --> 00:38:36.699
guys coming to the school that they
look at and there's like you know,
672
00:38:36.860 --> 00:38:39.699
well, such says gave me this
belt and I'm and I've rolled with dudes
673
00:38:40.099 --> 00:38:45.010
and I'm just like they are in
no way you're at this rank going and
674
00:38:45.090 --> 00:38:50.690
it's in it. I've seen you
do it and it's in the vicinity and
675
00:38:50.809 --> 00:38:52.690
I try to be nice to the
guys, but it's like, you know,
676
00:38:54.449 --> 00:38:57.719
you know, you're just not up
to what I expect, or what
677
00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:02.360
I feel curler would expect of of
a certain rank. It's fair. Yeah,
678
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:07.840
that's really fair. And I mean
those kind of people that walk in,
679
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:09.989
this is my belt, I got
to represent, are usually the people
680
00:39:09.989 --> 00:39:13.670
are going to be a problem for
the school anyway. Oh yeah, yeah,
681
00:39:13.789 --> 00:39:16.510
just in my well, you're to
be fair. I I thought that
682
00:39:16.550 --> 00:39:20.670
a little bit because I came in
as a brand new blue bell. I
683
00:39:20.710 --> 00:39:22.949
got my blue belt. I probably
trained two or three months after I got
684
00:39:22.989 --> 00:39:25.460
my blue belt, if that,
and then I didn't train for months.
685
00:39:25.579 --> 00:39:29.500
So I came in here and I
can't plained taking it off, but then
686
00:39:29.500 --> 00:39:31.539
I thought that'd be disrespectful to my
old coach. So I kept it on.
687
00:39:31.780 --> 00:39:34.780
Yeah, but I was orried.
I'm like, man, I don't
688
00:39:34.780 --> 00:39:37.059
want to look stupid. You know. That was my fear because, like
689
00:39:37.659 --> 00:39:39.650
to your point, I didn't have
any any test. It was just hey,
690
00:39:39.730 --> 00:39:43.170
you know, clean up these things, don't do this stupid stuff,
691
00:39:43.210 --> 00:39:45.530
and you'll you'll be a blue belt. So I did that. I worked
692
00:39:45.530 --> 00:39:46.289
on, you know, not doing
the dumb stuff that I was doing as
693
00:39:46.329 --> 00:39:51.889
a white belt and and felt I
earned that, I guess. But yeah,
694
00:39:51.929 --> 00:39:54.800
jog you can't give him anything.
I can't give himself shit, I
695
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:58.920
guess. Not got all the way
through this very nice die tribe and there
696
00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:05.360
goes. When I'm at Curler,
I already had a purple Um and that
697
00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:07.710
guy said I was at that mind
state that now I'm not really a purple.
698
00:40:08.030 --> 00:40:10.269
I was a pro I stay,
I got I got my purple belt
699
00:40:10.309 --> 00:40:13.949
in two thousand and ten. I'm
at Crowl in two thousand and twelve.
700
00:40:14.030 --> 00:40:19.389
Okay, I didn't get my brown
belt till last year. Yeah, so
701
00:40:19.429 --> 00:40:22.300
yeah, I was, I was. I was a purple belt for six
702
00:40:22.420 --> 00:40:25.739
years. Wow, you know what
I mean. Yeah, so it's a
703
00:40:25.900 --> 00:40:29.219
like kind of cool like kind of
started me all over at that rank.
704
00:40:29.219 --> 00:40:30.900
He's like, Oh, you can
keep your belt, but I think he
705
00:40:30.980 --> 00:40:34.099
kind of he didn't take it as
all. He's already been a prop belt
706
00:40:34.139 --> 00:40:37.449
for two years. He took it
as he's a purple belt, but we're
707
00:40:37.489 --> 00:40:39.530
going to make him a better PLA. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so,
708
00:40:39.769 --> 00:40:43.010
and never at least is regular.
Yeah, and that's and that's what
709
00:40:43.090 --> 00:40:45.849
he did. You know. He, like I said, I was down
710
00:40:45.889 --> 00:40:49.210
there a lot. Yeah, even
when I started it was every Friday.
711
00:40:49.210 --> 00:40:52.320
Yeah, we knew tray wasn't going
to be at the gym. Yeah,
712
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:53.800
so, and I mean that's in
that's that's kind of like I think I
713
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:55.480
told you guys before. That's where
I was like, all right, that's
714
00:40:55.480 --> 00:41:00.400
where Chad goes and gets his training
and you know. So. And it's
715
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:02.920
not like like I can't get better
with you guys, just you know,
716
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:06.869
I like going down there and just
rolling without all. Yeah, that's awesome.
717
00:41:06.909 --> 00:41:12.389
Well, I'm offended. I don't
care. Kim should have seen that
718
00:41:12.510 --> 00:41:15.989
coming. Oh, I have another
question. All right. Yes, what
719
00:41:16.389 --> 00:41:22.500
do you rank, Paulie, because
this is a constant conversate. Conversation between
720
00:41:22.579 --> 00:41:28.460
Paul and I is Paul thinks he's
the worst ever, and I can't.
721
00:41:28.659 --> 00:41:31.699
I just I contradict that with he
has a pretty good amount of skill and
722
00:41:31.739 --> 00:41:36.090
he's really good at what he's good
at. Yes, I believe the same
723
00:41:36.090 --> 00:41:42.730
thing. He's definitely good at what
he does. I've H I think Paul's
724
00:41:44.130 --> 00:41:49.599
biggest thing that's prevent him from opening
up and kind of getting past that is
725
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:53.920
doubting himself. Oh, that hurts
a little bit. Yeah, that is
726
00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:58.119
not my favorite person in the world. Sorry, Curler, I've moved on
727
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:05.110
and that's not it's not nothing bad. I think you know, you gotta
728
00:42:06.550 --> 00:42:10.230
be confident in your skills. You're
going to get tapped regardless. It's going
729
00:42:10.309 --> 00:42:13.949
to happen. You'RE gonna GET TAT
by lower belts. You know you're going
730
00:42:13.989 --> 00:42:15.460
to. It's going to be harder
to do jiujitsu against other guys that are
731
00:42:15.460 --> 00:42:21.579
training. Yeah, period, but
I think, like we had that conversation
732
00:42:21.699 --> 00:42:23.659
before, it's you kind of you
were. You kind of get one dimensional
733
00:42:23.940 --> 00:42:28.340
in a way. You might be
just be focused on okay, I'm going
734
00:42:28.380 --> 00:42:30.329
to break to some break the guard. Okay, I got my grips on
735
00:42:30.409 --> 00:42:34.090
his on the pants, and then
I got the grips on the pants.
736
00:42:35.730 --> 00:42:37.650
You know, and then it's you
kind it's almost you kind of freeze and
737
00:42:37.650 --> 00:42:39.650
it's like you give that your opponents
to the second second, yeah, to
738
00:42:39.690 --> 00:42:43.090
advance out of there, and then
you're now you're starting all over again.
739
00:42:43.929 --> 00:42:46.159
So it's I think you get a
kind of got a just open up your
740
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:51.440
mind and this it's not not Saye. Stay, we're not stay, relaxed.
741
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:54.719
So you seem like you're relaxed.
I don't know, calm your mind
742
00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:57.840
or something. Maybe a little bit
to take a deep breath and think of
743
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:00.070
where you're at and what you got
to do. That makes sense. But
744
00:43:00.429 --> 00:43:04.670
I mean, as far as your
skill level, I mean you're there.
745
00:43:06.789 --> 00:43:08.230
I think. I just I think
you just you just need to kind of
746
00:43:08.789 --> 00:43:13.340
get past yourself like that. Doubt
Self, doubt. This is so much
747
00:43:13.420 --> 00:43:16.579
fun for me great now. Many
Times I've told him that Shit. Yeah,
748
00:43:16.619 --> 00:43:20.619
no, I' ton, you're here, you got you're good. You
749
00:43:20.659 --> 00:43:22.340
are, you're real good. You
know, you're a good you're fun to
750
00:43:22.340 --> 00:43:25.260
roll with. I enjoyed rolling with
the other enjoy training with you. I
751
00:43:25.460 --> 00:43:32.090
don't at all think you know you're
lower than what you are now at all.
752
00:43:32.170 --> 00:43:36.289
I mean, I have anything you
need to start. I think.
753
00:43:36.329 --> 00:43:37.010
I told you just a few weeks
ago, it's you need to start.
754
00:43:37.010 --> 00:43:39.969
It's time to start focusing and on
that next one and, YEP, start
755
00:43:40.050 --> 00:43:44.239
getting this test, cromer stone,
don't worry, his wife told them to
756
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:46.800
now, so it'll actually happen.
Yeah, like I told you guys the
757
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:49.280
other day, it's on you,
though, you know, at the end
758
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:51.320
of the day. Yeah, I
can tell you what I think and what
759
00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:54.400
I feel and you know, with
you already coming to us as a blue
760
00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:59.230
belt and once you get the program
down, I think you'll feel a lot
761
00:43:59.269 --> 00:44:02.150
more comfortable with things. Yeah,
I think so too. So, because
762
00:44:02.150 --> 00:44:05.269
you know, you know, you
know Jiu Jitsu. You know, you're
763
00:44:05.309 --> 00:44:07.070
not just like some do that just
walk on the door. You're not.
764
00:44:07.110 --> 00:44:09.739
You can. It's what he's saying. I saw him look at me real
765
00:44:09.780 --> 00:44:15.460
quick. That some Cherry Suns,
loud mouthings, loud asshole that comes to
766
00:44:15.539 --> 00:44:21.019
my gym. Oh wait, sorry, but man, you guys. Everybody's
767
00:44:21.019 --> 00:44:23.019
doing great. You know, there's
the I don't I don't have anything bad
768
00:44:23.019 --> 00:44:25.409
to say about the about the students
of the gym. You know, we've
769
00:44:25.449 --> 00:44:30.809
had, you know, bad apples. I guess you could say walk through
770
00:44:30.809 --> 00:44:32.489
the door that that just aren't there
no more. Yeah, you know.
771
00:44:32.650 --> 00:44:37.010
So it's I kind of I like
the way you squash that and keep a
772
00:44:37.170 --> 00:44:39.719
safe, good environment. So whenever
when we go to the class, it's
773
00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:44.480
a it's a family. It's absolutely
yeah, for sure, you protect the
774
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:46.159
family. So if there's somebody that
you know comes in trying to throw their
775
00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:49.920
weight around and treat people like Shit, you don't have that. So,
776
00:44:50.159 --> 00:44:53.590
yeah, it's it did not take
them. He I've what once I've seen
777
00:44:53.630 --> 00:44:55.550
him. I need that. He
had to. There was a guy that
778
00:44:55.670 --> 00:44:59.510
just came with the big head,
Nice Guy and everything. It's just he
779
00:44:59.630 --> 00:45:02.710
came on the big head and it
took Chad what two months? Yeah,
780
00:45:02.869 --> 00:45:06.469
and Chad took care of that day. gave him every chance and then,
781
00:45:06.670 --> 00:45:10.139
Gosh you did you talk to him
and he murdered. Did ever tell you
782
00:45:10.300 --> 00:45:14.619
I almost stopped coming because of that
guy? Yes, yeah, I think
783
00:45:14.619 --> 00:45:16.500
you were kind of maybe overheard something. I've kind of heard a lot of
784
00:45:16.500 --> 00:45:21.179
people complain about it. beat the
crap out of me. beat the crap
785
00:45:21.260 --> 00:45:23.849
on me my first day like yeah, oh no, if I wanna come
786
00:45:23.969 --> 00:45:29.409
back, and then Chad smiled at
me and said so you train it again
787
00:45:29.489 --> 00:45:34.849
today, shit and they it's then, you know, I give people,
788
00:45:34.849 --> 00:45:36.800
I try to get people as man, chances like Oh, for sure,
789
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:38.360
I'll try to feel them out,
you know, and maybe there's nervous and
790
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:43.199
uncomfortable. Obviously you know come from
someplace else and you know they're on edge.
791
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:45.639
So I'll give you a little bit
of chance to, you know,
792
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:46.840
get comfortable with us, right.
You know, I mean that way I
793
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:50.429
can, you can kind of calm
down if you are on edge. Yeah,
794
00:45:52.070 --> 00:45:58.590
and obviously this that individuals wasn't willing
to you know, I guess loses
795
00:45:58.670 --> 00:46:00.309
ego right on. Yeah, yeah, he just in fit. The GEM
796
00:46:00.389 --> 00:46:02.429
is. There's nothing wrong with the
guy. He was a nice guy.
797
00:46:02.710 --> 00:46:06.019
So, yeah, it was a
nice guy. It was just more of
798
00:46:06.099 --> 00:46:08.460
a matt bully, I guess you
could. Yeah. So, yes,
799
00:46:08.780 --> 00:46:12.940
said a deal with him. I
got him in a body triangle from behind
800
00:46:13.099 --> 00:46:15.820
and he told me I was doing
it wrong. Yeah, Hey, you
801
00:46:15.860 --> 00:46:20.409
got coached as I was like a
let's get a tippen. Would you let
802
00:46:20.449 --> 00:46:23.369
me show you what I'm doing?
I'm like no, and, by the
803
00:46:23.409 --> 00:46:28.329
way, I rolled no worse ever
than I'm when I'm Rong with you.
804
00:46:29.210 --> 00:46:34.159
I roll like a freaking moron with
you don't know why? Yeah, it's
805
00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:37.199
quite entertaining to myself. That's why
you hear me laughing, like I've never
806
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:38.800
done that before, but now doing
it with Chad and he's choking me.
807
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:42.119
Yeah, I'm saying that. Last
time you were training. You're like,
808
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:44.880
I don't even know what I'm doing
that. Yeah, I literally don't.
809
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:46.150
And what the last time we roll, you caught me a loop joke.
810
00:46:46.190 --> 00:46:49.710
I'm like, I never get caught
loop jokes. He's like, Dude,
811
00:46:49.710 --> 00:46:51.869
I'm you could have done in slow
motion. Like what the Hell? Yeah,
812
00:46:51.989 --> 00:46:53.349
looks like it was a slow motion. Yeah, you've done a slow
813
00:46:53.469 --> 00:46:57.110
motion to me and I'm just like
and I'm literally watched, like Oh,
814
00:46:57.190 --> 00:47:00.980
look, look here. Oh yeah, definitely happening, because I do for
815
00:47:01.179 --> 00:47:07.019
I love rolling with Ben and Adam
and my main goals just to not let
816
00:47:07.059 --> 00:47:08.619
him tat me. I don't care
if they do. Would you know?
817
00:47:08.780 --> 00:47:12.579
I don't care. It's fun,
that's good, but yeah, I mean
818
00:47:12.619 --> 00:47:15.139
I make them work. That's my
goal. Oh, yeah, you know,
819
00:47:15.460 --> 00:47:19.369
but with you I go, I
might as well where a helmet with
820
00:47:19.530 --> 00:47:22.449
some stickers on it, because it's
like I see your smile, like as
821
00:47:22.449 --> 00:47:28.690
I'm fun and Nice. Don't know
what I'm doing. Shit. You guys
822
00:47:28.730 --> 00:47:30.480
are defined every I I think I'm
probably good. I probably get the same
823
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:34.280
way when I roll, you know, with black belts and things like that.
824
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:37.440
You'd all just kind of Giddy,
and you know you do. Dude,
825
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:39.679
you were smiling even with Curler,
until they grabbed you under the chin.
826
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:43.960
You were doing fine. That was
that was that was that looked freaking
827
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:45.349
painful. That was rough. Yeah, I think we all get a bit
828
00:47:45.429 --> 00:47:49.070
of that, you know, hero
worship. You know it's the wrong word.
829
00:47:49.110 --> 00:47:50.909
You know I'm saying, though,
where it's like it's the coach and
830
00:47:50.989 --> 00:47:52.269
you know you just get nervous because
you want to do you want to do
831
00:47:52.389 --> 00:47:57.710
well, but then then that just
makes you do worse as Oh yeah,
832
00:47:57.750 --> 00:48:00.980
absolutely, I take it to a
whole new freaking level. It's like him
833
00:48:00.139 --> 00:48:04.539
so bad, like dude. Seriously, you put me on belly and I
834
00:48:04.659 --> 00:48:07.460
forgot what to do. Well,
I'm just gonna give my arm, I
835
00:48:07.500 --> 00:48:10.460
guess that's that's what you're supposed to
do, right, because I work with
836
00:48:10.539 --> 00:48:14.570
Paul a lot. Yeah, like
a lot, and all I done is
837
00:48:14.730 --> 00:48:17.570
what six months of defense, just
just making sure I can lay down and
838
00:48:17.809 --> 00:48:22.369
not get tapped. I don't get
tapped too terribly much, but then when
839
00:48:22.409 --> 00:48:24.289
I'm with you, like, Oh, you tat me thirty seven times and
840
00:48:24.449 --> 00:48:29.880
thirty seconds. I don't think that's
possible, but do you somehow do like
841
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:32.079
good advice for like a brand new
wipe belt that comes into there? Like
842
00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:35.719
what should they focus on first,
because I realize you're going to get the
843
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:37.920
curriculum and what it is, but
like something that they should focus on the
844
00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:45.230
first missay six months there training.
Don't focus onto all the flashy stuff that
845
00:48:45.309 --> 00:48:49.829
you see MTV. Yeah, you
know, that's a good that's a good
846
00:48:49.829 --> 00:48:52.389
one, because I did that when
I came in. Don't, don't.
847
00:48:52.429 --> 00:48:55.820
Don't be worried about hitting, like
you know, like he's like, see,
848
00:48:55.820 --> 00:49:00.179
these guys are like flying arm bars
and this something. Sometimes you see
849
00:49:00.300 --> 00:49:01.300
something on Youtube and all that looked
awesome. I want to be able to
850
00:49:01.340 --> 00:49:05.019
do that, Paul. Focus on
the most basic moves you can do.
851
00:49:05.500 --> 00:49:07.619
You know, Armbar from Mount,
you know, Cross College show from guard.
852
00:49:07.980 --> 00:49:10.210
You know, work on some guard
passes. You know, just some
853
00:49:10.369 --> 00:49:15.449
basic you know, double Underhook Guard
pass, things like that. Work on
854
00:49:15.530 --> 00:49:17.769
the basic move. Don't worry about
looking. Don't worry about the flashy stuff.
855
00:49:19.090 --> 00:49:24.159
Not. Ninety nine percent of the
time that flashy stuff is just made
856
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:28.639
to look flashy. You know,
you'll see these guys. You'll there's I
857
00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:34.320
seen a guy today, number,
let's see, number ten, to defense,
858
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:36.440
when somebody's grabbing you on your shouler
Ni pull you in. Yeah,
859
00:49:36.599 --> 00:49:39.309
it's dude went around the guy's arm. It was going to write like doing
860
00:49:39.389 --> 00:49:43.829
like standing arm lock, but like
jumped and spun in the air and got
861
00:49:43.869 --> 00:49:47.030
him in Armbar, but cheess,
you know. So it's like, yeah,
862
00:49:47.070 --> 00:49:50.590
that looks cool, like something you
see on like like a movie,
863
00:49:50.630 --> 00:49:53.139
like a John Way. I know. But at the same time as that
864
00:49:53.300 --> 00:49:57.780
really going to work from? So
when are we going to learn the the
865
00:49:57.900 --> 00:50:00.619
John Wick Triangle to shoot them in
the face? Move? Yeah, because
866
00:50:00.619 --> 00:50:05.420
that's our favorite right nowaday. But
yeah, I think this focus on the
867
00:50:05.460 --> 00:50:07.409
basics. Get good at you know, get good at a few things,
868
00:50:07.690 --> 00:50:15.610
you know, starting off the bat. Don't don't get crazy on like trying
869
00:50:15.650 --> 00:50:20.449
to just get good. Like we
had that one kid, Gosh, what
870
00:50:20.610 --> 00:50:22.280
was his name? He was there
every single Yep, all right, always
871
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:25.199
forget his name, but yeah,
we had a fluffy hair. Yeah,
872
00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:29.440
really Nice Guyny came to every single
class. Was a John. No,
873
00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:32.239
no, I forgotten too. He's
been gone to Super Nice killed. I
874
00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:35.710
love to go. He over the
trinks. He was trying to get good
875
00:50:35.949 --> 00:50:37.710
like overnight, you know, and
he was getting hurt and he's getting banged
876
00:50:37.710 --> 00:50:42.030
up and he you know, he
I told I kept trying to tell him
877
00:50:42.030 --> 00:50:44.030
as the dude, you need to
slow down, you know, get in
878
00:50:44.110 --> 00:50:45.230
one of two days a week and
just start slow. You know, you're
879
00:50:45.230 --> 00:50:49.469
not going to get good overnight.
Just you just it's not gonna happen,
880
00:50:49.789 --> 00:50:52.980
you know, and he ended up
quitting. Yeah, I think. I
881
00:50:53.059 --> 00:50:59.300
think learning how to tap before things
are like too late would help. Like
882
00:50:59.420 --> 00:51:00.980
Anthony, I was wrong with him
and he had me in an arm bar
883
00:51:01.099 --> 00:51:04.489
and I was defending it. I
had, you know, my my arms
884
00:51:04.570 --> 00:51:07.170
locked, but it was a matter
of the second before they're gonna be unlocked.
885
00:51:07.170 --> 00:51:08.650
So I just said Hey, tap
because well, would I get you
886
00:51:08.769 --> 00:51:12.210
in the N Bar? He goes, yeah, but I didn't have the
887
00:51:12.289 --> 00:51:15.849
UN bar like but you would have
and I didn't want it to my top.
888
00:51:15.889 --> 00:51:17.449
So I'm do you know, I'm
just being safe and not in that
889
00:51:17.489 --> 00:51:22.280
position because I'm already hurt. Yeah, I did that with Ben. You
890
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:27.639
had me and your own Plata and
heat, like I can you know me.
891
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:30.039
You can turn it around some like
my ear, and I'm pretty good.
892
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:32.230
I don't really care. No one
believes me, but I'm like yeah,
893
00:51:32.230 --> 00:51:36.670
I'm fine, but he's doing that
and I was like there's no way
894
00:51:36.670 --> 00:51:38.349
I'm getting out because I already rolled. He just went back to it.
895
00:51:38.510 --> 00:51:42.230
I'm like, yeah, well,
I'm good, tap and he goes.
896
00:51:42.510 --> 00:51:45.469
Damn it, I was just about
to choke you with the coolest joke.
897
00:51:45.190 --> 00:51:47.460
Yeah, I was actually disappointed.
I'm like, Shit, I would like
898
00:51:47.579 --> 00:51:52.900
to see that Ben's Ben's getting Ben's
getting good too, and he's he's kind
899
00:51:52.900 --> 00:51:58.619
of getting to the point where he
needs to kind, kind of believe in
900
00:51:58.659 --> 00:52:00.300
himself a little bit more too.
Yeah, do you think that's why he
901
00:52:00.690 --> 00:52:07.289
does that flow apart a little bit
more often, like the whole not trying.
902
00:52:07.369 --> 00:52:08.929
I guess flows a wrong word.
Not Trying. It's hard because you
903
00:52:08.969 --> 00:52:13.929
can tell when Ben is really that's
mine engaged and he's jacking you up.
904
00:52:14.289 --> 00:52:16.440
Oh, you end up with your
feet all around when men turns it on.
905
00:52:16.760 --> 00:52:20.800
It's not real duck like, Oh
wow, he wants stap me out,
906
00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:23.119
I can tell them I can't move
anymore. Yeah, and you think,
907
00:52:23.159 --> 00:52:25.480
do you think that's like a Blue
Belt Blues? Because I was telling
908
00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:29.119
him kept the other day about having
a little bit of that, because they
909
00:52:30.750 --> 00:52:32.710
there's a time where I feel like
I'm advancing really, really quick, and
910
00:52:32.789 --> 00:52:37.429
then there's a time where I feel
like I'm stagnant and plateauing people, because
911
00:52:37.429 --> 00:52:39.030
people are getting better, like people
like hip that they have a lot to
912
00:52:39.110 --> 00:52:44.340
learn right away and then they just
get so much better really quick. But
913
00:52:44.420 --> 00:52:49.380
I'm I don't think I'm in that
stage of JIU Jitsu. So then I'm
914
00:52:49.659 --> 00:52:52.420
having problems with people that I used
to be able to just smash through.
915
00:52:52.579 --> 00:52:53.860
No, I can't anymore. What
do you think? You're on a problem
916
00:52:53.860 --> 00:52:57.659
with man with well, that's not
fair with us, though, Dude.
917
00:52:57.659 --> 00:53:00.650
I think to we've rolled so many
for yours. I know where he's going.
918
00:53:00.929 --> 00:53:02.969
The reason your plant, you feel
like your plateauing is because you're doing
919
00:53:04.010 --> 00:53:07.369
the exact same thing you've been doing
with with meal time, and I know
920
00:53:07.449 --> 00:53:09.650
where you're going. I trying to
do nothing new right. Yeah, it's
921
00:53:09.690 --> 00:53:14.079
yeah, I have my my goto
moves and, yeah, I have a
922
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:16.639
hard time expanding that, I suppose. Yeah, well, it's just I
923
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:20.400
think it goes back to what he
told you before. Yourself. Doubt is
924
00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:23.519
what stops you from trying new shit
because you watch it on Youtube and then
925
00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:29.150
you try it on me. Have
but most of the time failing. Where
926
00:53:29.230 --> 00:53:31.829
to the point where I have to
go what you doing? Where are you
927
00:53:31.909 --> 00:53:35.630
going if you see if you see
something a move you want to learn and
928
00:53:35.750 --> 00:53:39.750
you want to train and do,
just try to anybody the gym over and
929
00:53:39.789 --> 00:53:42.820
over again. If you don't get
in a one, keep trying another guy.
930
00:53:43.019 --> 00:53:45.619
Eventually you're going to hit it on
somebody because you're going to get a
931
00:53:45.619 --> 00:53:46.659
little bit better at it, a
little bit better at it's going to your
932
00:53:46.699 --> 00:53:50.380
time is going to get quicker,
it's going to get better and eventually going
933
00:53:50.420 --> 00:53:53.539
to start hitting more. So don't
just bail on a movie you want to
934
00:53:53.579 --> 00:53:57.210
learn. Just keep trying to hit
it over and over and over again.
935
00:53:57.210 --> 00:54:00.849
Yeah, that makes it n I
mean, Hmm. But yeah, I
936
00:54:01.090 --> 00:54:04.730
know exactly what you feel like when
you feel like your plateauing. Yeah,
937
00:54:04.769 --> 00:54:07.929
and that's why I when I when
I get that feeling, I it's like
938
00:54:08.250 --> 00:54:12.079
I got it's time to learn something. The new. All Right, I'm
939
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:15.840
having a really hard time with these
guys from guard. You know, they're
940
00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:19.280
defending a really easy you know,
they're the I can't seem to get nothing
941
00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:21.880
on them. I need to learn
something new from guard. I need to
942
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:23.349
learn different set up from guard in
order, maybe I want to I can't
943
00:54:23.349 --> 00:54:27.349
get these guys in just regular,
you know, just a triangle. Let
944
00:54:27.429 --> 00:54:29.429
me, I want to learn some
kind of different let me to learn a
945
00:54:29.429 --> 00:54:31.269
new set up to get to the
triangle. Now that throws you off,
946
00:54:31.389 --> 00:54:35.110
you know what I mean? Yeah, makes sense, and that's and I
947
00:54:35.190 --> 00:54:38.820
think that's that's probably the easiest thing
is, you know, keep learning.
948
00:54:39.059 --> 00:54:43.860
At the end of the day.
Don't like I everybody knows kind of my
949
00:54:43.940 --> 00:54:46.579
gotos. I think by now you
know I'm good side control, you know,
950
00:54:46.739 --> 00:54:51.340
getting some loop chokes and things like
that, and I don't know,
951
00:54:51.539 --> 00:54:53.050
I got a handful of moves.
I usually do it like on top side,
952
00:54:53.130 --> 00:54:58.210
things like that bottom. So I'm
trying to do different things, do
953
00:54:58.329 --> 00:55:02.449
different setups. As far as life
is you know, I've learned so many
954
00:55:02.489 --> 00:55:07.679
if I could remember, if I
remembered all the moves I've learned, it'd
955
00:55:07.719 --> 00:55:10.000
be awesome. Yeah, yeah,
there's just so many of them. It's
956
00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:14.559
just wonderful. Thousands of thousands of
moves. Love the sport. Yeah,
957
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:17.440
I mean, I really wish.
You know, I've got thousands of videos
958
00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:20.760
and, just like I said,
from when I started training back to those
959
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:22.670
six I got, you know,
videos are rob teaching, you know,
960
00:55:22.789 --> 00:55:27.070
it is, or different instructors that
I've trained with, Anto MC glassio,
961
00:55:28.789 --> 00:55:32.869
Tony Torresa Ponte, Pat Milletich when
I was at not pat man is school.
962
00:55:34.909 --> 00:55:37.780
So it's like I got different people
that I've got all these different videos
963
00:55:37.780 --> 00:55:40.260
from that. I can go through
my laptop right now and I got tons
964
00:55:40.300 --> 00:55:43.059
of stuff. You know, I
got tons of stuff, just crowler and
965
00:55:43.099 --> 00:55:45.940
I, you know, that stuff
that I probably don't even remember anymore.
966
00:55:45.940 --> 00:55:49.659
That can go back and flip through
and see. You know, he'll be
967
00:55:49.860 --> 00:55:52.289
bringing new to you. Yeah,
you know. So it's like there's so
968
00:55:52.489 --> 00:55:55.969
many moves that I've been shown,
you know, that I just don't remember
969
00:55:55.969 --> 00:55:59.929
anymore. And that's where you it
just takes study and just learning. You
970
00:56:00.010 --> 00:56:01.889
know where you having problem with?
Do you develop your own personal game and
971
00:56:01.889 --> 00:56:07.360
then try to like put moves that'll
fit into that game already? Try something
972
00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:12.400
just off the wall and new and
different just for fun? No, I
973
00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:15.320
try to develop my own game.
I think everybody is with your us.
974
00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:19.030
It's your own style Jiujitsu. There's
obviously things I'm not going to be able
975
00:56:19.030 --> 00:56:21.869
to do. And you know,
you know, six to them, two
976
00:56:21.869 --> 00:56:25.550
hundred and ten pounds. I'm not
going to be like been squirreling and gangling
977
00:56:25.630 --> 00:56:28.750
and like wear me all over the
place, you know, a big dude.
978
00:56:29.469 --> 00:56:32.460
So I try to focus on things
that work for my style. You
979
00:56:32.539 --> 00:56:37.500
know, I I've I got things
that I know I won't be able to
980
00:56:37.500 --> 00:56:38.420
build do. I got bad you
know, I got a bad back.
981
00:56:38.460 --> 00:56:40.300
Of that back surgery. You know, I've had a knee surgery, have
982
00:56:40.380 --> 00:56:46.170
at neck surgery, all military related, okay, but so there's things.
983
00:56:46.210 --> 00:56:50.489
I'm not a big I'm a shooting
for a double like takedown and pick this
984
00:56:50.530 --> 00:56:52.489
dude. I'm taking down the grounds. It's not my style, right.
985
00:56:52.849 --> 00:56:54.530
You know, I just had not
that I couldn't do it, it's just
986
00:56:54.610 --> 00:56:58.489
I'm not going to do it because
that why risk it. You know what
987
00:56:58.650 --> 00:57:00.639
some point, yeah, it's when
there's other options. Yeah, you know.
988
00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:04.039
Yeah, and I've seen people that
maybe their knees aren't there. They
989
00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:06.360
got screwed up, really screwed up
music. They can't even get them.
990
00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:08.320
They have a hard time putting people
in triangles, so they just don't do
991
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:10.679
it. You know, they do
other things. So you kind of develop
992
00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:15.280
your own style of Jiujitsu. I
believe you know things that your go the
993
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:17.670
yeah, you like that. Things
are easy for you to remember. You
994
00:57:17.750 --> 00:57:20.670
know, are you a top guy? You know, you're about new.
995
00:57:20.789 --> 00:57:23.909
I'm not. Also, I was
a big top player when I started because
996
00:57:23.909 --> 00:57:27.230
because, like I said, I
was like trying to haulk smash dude,
997
00:57:27.230 --> 00:57:30.699
right, and I figured way to
Hulk Smash being a yeah, yeah,
998
00:57:31.460 --> 00:57:37.099
and that's now I'd play a lot
of my back I can keep, I
999
00:57:37.179 --> 00:57:40.340
think, blue bit more control.
I'm not getting tired as quick and I
1000
00:57:40.420 --> 00:57:45.969
said, I got a you know, tons of different sweeps and submissions and
1001
00:57:45.010 --> 00:57:46.969
set ups. You know that I
can do just from that position, you
1002
00:57:47.010 --> 00:57:49.530
know, on top. You know, yeah, I'm smashing you. I
1003
00:57:49.570 --> 00:57:52.530
can smitch and things like that.
But it's also I'm a exertin energy to
1004
00:57:52.610 --> 00:57:54.489
try to kind of keep you down
and keeping it from not moving. And
1005
00:57:54.570 --> 00:57:57.730
if you move the I'm trying to
fight to stay them down in a position.
1006
00:57:57.769 --> 00:58:00.480
But if I find if I got
you my guard, you know,
1007
00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:01.760
I mean I can just I'm move
them, I'm using my legs, I'm
1008
00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:06.519
moving and keeping you off balance and
pushing you this way and pulling you that
1009
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:08.800
away and, you know, trying
to keep you flustered so I can try
1010
00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:12.519
to say something. I'm, instead
of just exert manager, going to stand
1011
00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:14.429
tiping a smash Mo neon belly.
Now I'm going to go to mount and
1012
00:58:14.469 --> 00:58:15.469
I'm going to spend a north south
and Yep, you know. So it's
1013
00:58:15.469 --> 00:58:20.869
like, you know, it's your
own style at the end of the day.
1014
00:58:21.269 --> 00:58:23.309
You know, there's a deal I've
noticed see. There's things I've seen
1015
00:58:23.829 --> 00:58:28.260
with all type of tall types of
Jiujitsu guys that I've trained with that you
1016
00:58:28.340 --> 00:58:30.940
can tell that they're in the position
where they want to be. That's their
1017
00:58:31.059 --> 00:58:34.619
go to, what they want to
wear, that where they want to be
1018
00:58:34.739 --> 00:58:37.460
in right. So, you know, yeah, especially a lot of smaller
1019
00:58:37.460 --> 00:58:40.019
guys. You see a lot of
smaller guys they want to be on their
1020
00:58:40.019 --> 00:58:43.929
back. Yeah, so they can't
get muscled as much. Yeah, they
1021
00:58:43.969 --> 00:58:45.570
can control the DICKT. They want
to dictate the pace and they want to
1022
00:58:45.570 --> 00:58:47.489
be on their back. You know, that's like Coraler, courl sities,
1023
00:58:47.489 --> 00:58:50.929
like I'm he's like a big guy, but I do small manage Jitsu and
1024
00:58:51.010 --> 00:58:52.730
he really does. You know,
that's pretty cool. He does small manage.
1025
00:58:52.769 --> 00:58:55.199
It's well, think about it,
those wrist locks and spinning around,
1026
00:58:55.239 --> 00:58:59.119
he's it is all little guy stuff. It's all stuff. You don't need
1027
00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:00.719
to be stronger than the person across
from you, right, you know,
1028
00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:05.840
and that's just you know, I've
tried giving coraler like everything. I've had,
1029
00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:08.639
like all muscle, all everything,
and I'm getting stopped, I'm getting
1030
00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:13.309
beat and I'm like yeah, Oh, yeah, and he's like you all
1031
00:59:13.349 --> 00:59:20.070
right, man, no settle,
you know. But yeah, I mean
1032
00:59:20.110 --> 00:59:22.949
I think, yeah, I think
working like like keys had, a small
1033
00:59:22.949 --> 00:59:28.500
man Jiujitsu keeps your composure, slows
you down, keeps you composed and to
1034
00:59:28.500 --> 00:59:31.860
where you're not all of a sudden
dying after sixty seconds into a roll.
1035
00:59:32.019 --> 00:59:35.739
There enough. Well, that's that's
why I struggle with you, not to
1036
00:59:35.860 --> 00:59:39.889
cut you off. Is and Justin
is. You both dropped your back and
1037
00:59:40.010 --> 00:59:45.449
you're obviously much stronger than I am
technique wise, on your back. I
1038
00:59:45.329 --> 00:59:51.809
hate going on top because I I
have like two or three I'm comfortable with.
1039
00:59:52.409 --> 00:59:55.480
Moves are going to work? Yeah, they are not going to work
1040
00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:59.360
on you. They still your game
from you. That's yeah, it's so
1041
00:59:59.480 --> 00:60:01.480
away. I told Justin I to
he laid back, like you're a Dick,
1042
00:60:02.039 --> 00:60:06.039
and he's looks at he's like what, what's that's what I like to
1043
00:60:06.079 --> 00:60:07.110
do. And he's like, Oh, you're good at Git. I'm like
1044
00:60:07.309 --> 00:60:10.670
no, I'm not, but what
thanks. That's why all the new people
1045
00:60:10.750 --> 00:60:14.230
like it when that fresh guy who
walks in the man and joins the gym
1046
00:60:14.269 --> 00:60:16.389
because yeah, sweet, now I
can start using these moves. I've been
1047
00:60:16.389 --> 00:60:19.590
learned that I can't seem to get
on anybody else, but I bet you
1048
00:60:19.630 --> 00:60:21.739
I can start hitting on this guy. You remember the first time that you
1049
00:60:21.820 --> 00:60:25.380
walked into a gym, the feeling
of everybody just ruining you? Yes,
1050
00:60:27.099 --> 00:60:30.860
the first time I walked into it
a gym, I just got back from
1051
00:60:30.860 --> 00:60:37.130
my rack. I was two thousand
and six and I wanted something to do,
1052
00:60:37.650 --> 00:60:39.650
Scud of something take up the time, and a brother in law,
1053
00:60:40.250 --> 00:60:44.690
Mike, was like hey, man, this the UFC was just kicking off
1054
00:60:44.730 --> 00:60:47.130
that ultimate Oh yeah. Ever,
when just gotta say, it was going
1055
00:60:47.210 --> 00:60:50.119
to be kind of a mainstream thing
and he was like man, this is
1056
00:60:50.119 --> 00:60:53.960
Jiu Jitsu. There's this Jiujitsu school. I'm like what Jitsu? And it
1057
00:60:54.000 --> 00:60:57.159
kind of like you hit too.
Yeah, I got it was kind of
1058
00:60:57.199 --> 00:60:59.239
like you and a kid. You
know, I did taekwondo and things like
1059
00:60:59.280 --> 00:61:01.199
that when I was a little and
oakanaw and Waichi Rou and things like.
1060
00:61:01.320 --> 00:61:04.590
I want to break boards and do
all these kinds. That was my jam.
1061
00:61:04.829 --> 00:61:09.190
Thought it was sweet. So I
went to this first Jiu Jitsu school
1062
00:61:09.389 --> 00:61:13.349
and I walked in the door and
before I walked in the door, all
1063
00:61:13.389 --> 00:61:15.750
the windows are all steamy. Yeah, Oh, yeah, like, oh,
1064
00:61:15.829 --> 00:61:20.179
man, what he and I walked
in. These dudes are running around,
1065
00:61:20.219 --> 00:61:22.500
they're sweat and they got these gys
on, like Holy Crab, and
1066
00:61:22.500 --> 00:61:23.420
I can I could feel it.
Oh yeah, it's no, yeah,
1067
00:61:23.460 --> 00:61:28.699
sticky and yeah, and one of
the guys, he was I can't remember
1068
00:61:28.699 --> 00:61:32.010
his name. He was a purple
belt. Gosh is. I think his
1069
00:61:32.050 --> 00:61:36.809
name is Brian. It wasn't.
He was a he was a camera police
1070
00:61:36.809 --> 00:61:38.329
officer, I believe, at the
time. And he walked up and he's
1071
00:61:38.369 --> 00:61:40.250
like Hey, I think wh names. I think his name is Brian.
1072
00:61:40.369 --> 00:61:45.610
I think my name's bread big.
My Name's Brian and I think his name
1073
00:61:45.650 --> 00:61:49.199
was Brian. He introduced himself and
I shook his hand and he's like hey,
1074
00:61:50.119 --> 00:61:51.400
you know you want to jump in. I was like, now,
1075
00:61:51.519 --> 00:61:53.239
I'm just here to check it out. I really don't own. In my
1076
00:61:53.320 --> 00:61:55.880
head I'm like man, you know
I kick that dude face, ha ha,
1077
00:61:58.519 --> 00:62:00.949
taekwondo when I was a kid,
and but not on I really.
1078
00:62:01.269 --> 00:62:06.269
But Oh yeah, he told me
I wasn't really comfortable with nice to watch
1079
00:62:06.309 --> 00:62:07.829
the train. They Maze Youse are
sweating all of each other and yes,
1080
00:62:08.429 --> 00:62:13.750
it's it's stinks in here and these
their keys are gross and there's grappling.
1081
00:62:13.829 --> 00:62:15.500
I was like man, it's now. They ain't for me. So I
1082
00:62:15.539 --> 00:62:22.500
left and then came back ack excited
to think about it. Came back agin
1083
00:62:22.699 --> 00:62:27.699
like a week later and walked in
and same guy. He's okay, I
1084
00:62:27.780 --> 00:62:29.460
was going. I was like yeah, I'm just I just want to watch
1085
00:62:29.500 --> 00:62:30.329
again. It's want to check it
out, and he's like no, he's
1086
00:62:30.369 --> 00:62:34.130
like, here's a key. Yeah, he made your twice get out there.
1087
00:62:34.369 --> 00:62:37.889
So I jumped out on the Mat
and yeah, thought it was a
1088
00:62:37.929 --> 00:62:40.889
tough guy and I just got murdered. And Yeah, I was like man,
1089
00:62:40.969 --> 00:62:45.400
this is awesome and one of my
buddy I met a guy there in
1090
00:62:45.440 --> 00:62:49.800
his name was hory Sarat. He
ended eventually becoming one of my really good
1091
00:62:49.800 --> 00:62:52.239
friends and still is to this day. He was a four stripe white belt
1092
00:62:52.599 --> 00:62:59.070
when I started training and he him
and I just kind of clicked and I
1093
00:62:59.190 --> 00:63:01.269
end up selling one of my had
a gun and I'm selling on my guns
1094
00:63:01.269 --> 00:63:06.030
I had for a few hundred bucks
and we went up to MC sports and
1095
00:63:06.070 --> 00:63:07.909
I bought all their black puzzle mess
they had in the whole place. Nice.
1096
00:63:09.309 --> 00:63:12.550
I laid him on the whole base
one of my house because back then
1097
00:63:12.670 --> 00:63:15.380
the place that we were training was
only open two days a week. Three
1098
00:63:15.380 --> 00:63:17.500
days a week. It was I
think it was Monday, Wednesday, Friday,
1099
00:63:17.539 --> 00:63:22.300
I think, was the class schedule. Hello, and so in between
1100
00:63:22.340 --> 00:63:24.980
Jory and I were rolling down on
my basement just beating the crap out of
1101
00:63:25.019 --> 00:63:28.170
he's I was moping for me,
but I'm trying to beat the crap.
1102
00:63:28.250 --> 00:63:30.289
I don't and he was smaller.
He was I don't know, maybe one
1103
00:63:30.489 --> 00:63:34.769
seventy. You know, I'm still
too at that time I was probably twenty
1104
00:63:34.769 --> 00:63:37.090
five, two years. Yeah,
it's got to be frustrated. How the
1105
00:63:37.170 --> 00:63:39.170
Hell I would? Oh, yeah, which sorcery are you using? He
1106
00:63:39.449 --> 00:63:45.440
was. Yeah, he was,
you was. It was amazing and we
1107
00:63:45.599 --> 00:63:47.760
try trained there with him for a
few months and I end up do my
1108
00:63:47.800 --> 00:63:52.559
first tournament about three months into Jiujitsu. Wow, yeah, wasted no time.
1109
00:63:52.719 --> 00:63:58.429
No, I went down him and
I went down to Indiana compete in
1110
00:63:58.429 --> 00:64:02.269
the WHO's your open in two thousand
and six and I think that was the
1111
00:64:02.349 --> 00:64:05.750
first year they did it down there. And we got there like nine o'clock
1112
00:64:05.750 --> 00:64:08.150
and more. We're all pumped up. I'm like yeah, you know,
1113
00:64:08.190 --> 00:64:11.980
we're going to clean the floor.
These dudes white belts and just, you
1114
00:64:12.019 --> 00:64:14.699
know, we just thought weird,
you know. Oh, yeah, we
1115
00:64:14.780 --> 00:64:17.219
were on the area when you so
we get down there like nine o'clock,
1116
00:64:17.219 --> 00:64:19.460
we weigh and I'm we're just waiting. We already got our keyes on ward,
1117
00:64:19.500 --> 00:64:23.420
all hyped up, but by I
don't know, five thirty, six
1118
00:64:23.420 --> 00:64:26.050
o'clock in the evening, when our
division finally popped up, we were the
1119
00:64:26.130 --> 00:64:30.170
energy level wasn't there. No more. You just want tacos. Yeah,
1120
00:64:30.090 --> 00:64:32.130
I was like, we got a
four and a half hour drive still home.
1121
00:64:32.170 --> 00:64:34.329
I like. So I was like
let's just get this thing going.
1122
00:64:34.730 --> 00:64:42.639
So I end up competing and wasn't
really comfort like really familiar with maybe I
1123
00:64:42.679 --> 00:64:46.639
should have cut weight. So I
end up in the super heavyweight division.
1124
00:64:46.960 --> 00:64:51.079
Holy what kind of monster did you
get this first dude, I wrote this
1125
00:64:51.239 --> 00:64:54.789
guy. I seen everybody out there. I was like man, watch,
1126
00:64:54.869 --> 00:64:56.630
I was like I just had that. Feels like it's going to be that
1127
00:64:56.710 --> 00:64:59.389
guy in me. And this dude
was like no neck, you know,
1128
00:65:00.869 --> 00:65:04.150
for foot wide shoulders. He's like
a tall rob bowers. Yeah, you
1129
00:65:04.190 --> 00:65:09.019
got to be kidding me. And
actually got I think I got some pictures
1130
00:65:09.019 --> 00:65:13.300
of that tournament to at the house
somewhere. He tried to get me a
1131
00:65:13.900 --> 00:65:16.460
couple times. Tried to Smith with
Americana things like that. I had a
1132
00:65:16.460 --> 00:65:20.530
muscling out. He had me in
America side control and I up bridging.
1133
00:65:21.050 --> 00:65:24.650
He was really loose and of bridging
and rolling over and get side control on
1134
00:65:24.690 --> 00:65:29.650
him and we kind of just flip
flop background. Yeah, it was weird.
1135
00:65:30.050 --> 00:65:33.849
Ridge Bridge really hard and just jump
like kind of flipped over him and
1136
00:65:35.159 --> 00:65:39.519
going to go back forth. The
end of beat me by three points and
1137
00:65:39.639 --> 00:65:43.639
then I competed again and the next
round, because it was double elimination,
1138
00:65:44.000 --> 00:65:46.079
okay, and computer next round and
I'm getting a guy in a arm bar.
1139
00:65:46.599 --> 00:65:48.360
Sounds like oh sweet. You know, I hit my first arm bar
1140
00:65:48.400 --> 00:65:51.750
in the tournament Nice. And then
I went to compete first, third place
1141
00:65:53.309 --> 00:65:57.550
and and I'm getting beaten by an
arm bar. Yeah, Po, I
1142
00:65:57.670 --> 00:66:00.829
like just, yeah, but it
would know it was fun. whorey ended
1143
00:66:00.829 --> 00:66:02.550
up competeing after me. Shortly after
he end I'm getting first in his division.
1144
00:66:02.630 --> 00:66:05.059
Nice. So yeah, we brag
all the home, like at basic,
1145
00:66:05.059 --> 00:66:09.380
look what I got. Held that
arm per feel. I still got
1146
00:66:09.420 --> 00:66:12.179
that metal. It's actually hanging on
the thing where all those all the metals,
1147
00:66:12.219 --> 00:66:15.300
a suckle. He gave it to
me. But yeah, so we
1148
00:66:15.340 --> 00:66:17.300
drove home about four and a half
hours just, you know, high on
1149
00:66:17.420 --> 00:66:23.289
life. You know, I can't
wait till the next tournament. And got
1150
00:66:23.369 --> 00:66:26.730
back and then joy wanted to start
fighting. You want to start doing MMA.
1151
00:66:27.289 --> 00:66:30.650
So Friday, every Friday, Rob
Masco was teaching straight, just straight
1152
00:66:30.690 --> 00:66:35.280
Um and make class okay, and
start training with him more MMA. Wanted
1153
00:66:35.320 --> 00:66:39.320
to fight. Yeah, it's kind
of got out of the Gui Jiujitsu thing
1154
00:66:39.440 --> 00:66:43.119
and left the school I was at. There was just straight Gi Jiu Jitsu
1155
00:66:43.199 --> 00:66:46.079
and rob masking up open his own
school and I was with him for a
1156
00:66:46.150 --> 00:66:49.789
few years and it was, like
I said, it was like it was
1157
00:66:49.909 --> 00:66:57.869
fight club. It was there was
no real there was no real set program
1158
00:66:58.269 --> 00:67:00.989
or schedule. It was like all
right, we get it was all Noogie.
1159
00:67:00.030 --> 00:67:02.579
There was never it was never.
We never worgy. It was all
1160
00:67:02.659 --> 00:67:04.860
our every day. You bring your
head gear, you bring your mouth beace,
1161
00:67:04.980 --> 00:67:10.300
boxing up sighs and magloves and we'd
warm up, we do some drills
1162
00:67:10.340 --> 00:67:12.380
and it was our right. Guys
were sparn put your head here on you
1163
00:67:12.460 --> 00:67:14.179
and you go, you and you
go and you, you go, and
1164
00:67:14.659 --> 00:67:17.530
it was like that's all. It
was every single day and you did every
1165
00:67:17.530 --> 00:67:21.449
day. Yeah, home it was
every sime. Did you stay healthy?
1166
00:67:23.210 --> 00:67:26.570
I mean I was twenty six years
old. That helps out. Yeah,
1167
00:67:26.570 --> 00:67:29.809
that definitely helps. I was young, don't get me wrong. I got
1168
00:67:29.889 --> 00:67:32.119
beat up, you know, and
things like that, but it was fun.
1169
00:67:32.199 --> 00:67:35.079
It's time you did better to me, because when I trained it was
1170
00:67:35.280 --> 00:67:38.960
one day a week. I was
the best guy there that still didn't know
1171
00:67:39.079 --> 00:67:44.710
anything and decided cage fight sounds like
fun. Luckily it was. It was.
1172
00:67:45.309 --> 00:67:48.110
That just wasn't popular because, yeah, it was two thousand and eight.
1173
00:67:48.389 --> 00:67:51.110
I think I did that. So
yeah, just wasn't popular enough for
1174
00:67:51.150 --> 00:67:54.949
enough good people to go there and
do them. So I just got lucky.
1175
00:67:54.989 --> 00:67:58.429
Yeah, it was fun. I
think what you fight, I on
1176
00:67:58.510 --> 00:68:01.059
your free fairs. Yeah, there's
a couple of good guys are they had
1177
00:68:01.099 --> 00:68:03.619
teams. I don't know where they
are from. But when guy had tattoos,
1178
00:68:03.699 --> 00:68:06.099
you know, tribal tattoos all over, and he looked like o'donnis.
1179
00:68:06.780 --> 00:68:11.900
He looked like Jesse on steroids.
Tribal Tattoos all over. Jesse fought at
1180
00:68:13.530 --> 00:68:18.210
was it marn drag way from the
High Carbo? Something a fair out there.
1181
00:68:18.569 --> 00:68:24.409
Jesse fought out there, fought this
dude and it wented like it was
1182
00:68:24.529 --> 00:68:29.199
three rounds of Jesse basically blocking punches
with his face. Oh No, and
1183
00:68:29.359 --> 00:68:31.239
finally Jesse's on his back and whips
out a triangle and dude finally beast of
1184
00:68:31.279 --> 00:68:35.199
doing like the middle third. Shit. Wow, that's awesome. Yeah,
1185
00:68:35.279 --> 00:68:40.520
this said, this tribal up tattooed
guy, he was beating the brakes off
1186
00:68:40.840 --> 00:68:44.949
his opponent's opponent look like any dad
you'd see, you know, kind of
1187
00:68:44.989 --> 00:68:46.229
beard, Gut, the normal guy. Yeah, just look at a normal
1188
00:68:46.229 --> 00:68:49.829
dude and he did a double lock
takedown. It was I mean he was
1189
00:68:49.829 --> 00:68:53.270
hitting him. You can kind of
feel it in the crowd, like you
1190
00:68:53.350 --> 00:68:57.220
could feel the punches landing on that
guy from the crowd and the guy threw
1191
00:68:57.260 --> 00:69:00.659
up an armbar and in caught him. Oh Oh yeah, yeah, it
1192
00:69:00.739 --> 00:69:03.140
was one minute in the first round. Nice. Well, he came out
1193
00:69:03.220 --> 00:69:09.979
like just bloodied, but he won
one buyer bar. Oh Yeah. Well,
1194
00:69:10.010 --> 00:69:11.329
we've been a cup be in a
couple of those. We had a
1195
00:69:11.329 --> 00:69:13.649
couple guys fight out there before.
Back in the day, things like that.
1196
00:69:13.729 --> 00:69:17.289
It was smallers shows when it was
kind of not a really big it
1197
00:69:17.369 --> 00:69:21.930
was almost underground, like kid borderline
underground. How is this legal? We
1198
00:69:23.050 --> 00:69:26.880
used to drive out of state in
order to fight because there was no fights
1199
00:69:26.920 --> 00:69:30.119
in Michigan. So we have really
good at know that dribed out like Indiana
1200
00:69:30.159 --> 00:69:32.279
and a high okay fight. Ah, so it's like fireworks. Yeah,
1201
00:69:33.239 --> 00:69:40.430
I remember or Hay's first fight.
It was like in a am vets and
1202
00:69:40.510 --> 00:69:44.149
they can still smoke. It's still
smoke inside. That's awesome. This this
1203
00:69:44.430 --> 00:69:51.029
the cage was is maybe maybe ten
feet across. Oh, so it's more
1204
00:69:51.069 --> 00:69:55.659
of a like a cock fight.
Yeah, you can't run. Sorry,
1205
00:69:55.699 --> 00:69:57.939
yeah, there's no running here.
You get up in the cage and I
1206
00:69:58.060 --> 00:70:00.659
stood in the cage and I would
my head was probably maybe two feet from
1207
00:70:00.699 --> 00:70:04.659
in this hitting the ceiling and the
cigarette smoke was straight eye level. Oh,
1208
00:70:05.779 --> 00:70:09.010
so soon you got in the cage
it was your breathing heavy, know,
1209
00:70:09.210 --> 00:70:12.210
you just sucking Nicke it T.
yeah, it was horrible. I'm
1210
00:70:12.250 --> 00:70:15.170
not a smoker, but I am
today. Yeah, it was crazy.
1211
00:70:15.210 --> 00:70:17.609
It's lost ten years, a life
by cage, by him. That's it
1212
00:70:17.770 --> 00:70:19.850
was rough, but it was it
was funny. You know, it's something
1213
00:70:19.890 --> 00:70:23.119
we did back then. You know, a big group of US go down
1214
00:70:23.199 --> 00:70:27.399
and fight, you know, and
kind of did that for a couple of
1215
00:70:27.439 --> 00:70:30.880
years and then finally kind of start
getting bigger in Michigan and a lot of
1216
00:70:30.960 --> 00:70:33.279
guys I kind of stopped doing a
lot of guys started doing in Michigan more
1217
00:70:33.319 --> 00:70:36.310
and you know, that's cool.
So so, did you ever play sports
1218
00:70:36.350 --> 00:70:42.710
at all? I played. I
played tea ball when I was a kid.
1219
00:70:42.829 --> 00:70:45.829
So am I the only one of
the gym that played sports all growing
1220
00:70:45.869 --> 00:70:48.470
up? I played football in my
freshman year. That was it. That
1221
00:70:48.630 --> 00:70:51.500
was it. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, see, I played sports since
1222
00:70:51.539 --> 00:70:54.460
I was fine. So you were
in karate, though, right. I
1223
00:70:54.619 --> 00:70:57.579
started as a case started. He's
moved on for me. Thanks. That
1224
00:70:57.699 --> 00:71:02.500
never give us good looking out.
I start Tak wind and seventh eighth grade
1225
00:71:02.539 --> 00:71:05.489
maybe Nice. You know, it
was just local at the High School in
1226
00:71:05.609 --> 00:71:10.930
gym for a little bit and then
we moved a lot. We moved a
1227
00:71:11.050 --> 00:71:14.250
lot when I was a kid.
I don't think we ever stayed one place
1228
00:71:14.250 --> 00:71:15.890
for over a year here, so
it was kind of hit and miss.
1229
00:71:16.130 --> 00:71:20.560
How pissed were you when Hoist Gracie
won the UFC, because the Kung Fu
1230
00:71:20.680 --> 00:71:27.119
guy clearly should have won? You
know, I didn't see the best question
1231
00:71:27.279 --> 00:71:30.520
on your list. I didn't see
any of the UFC's. I moved here
1232
00:71:30.520 --> 00:71:31.640
to grand raps. One thousand nine
hundred and ninety six. No, Shit,
1233
00:71:31.760 --> 00:71:35.430
really, wow, that shit.
When I was a kid. Oh,
1234
00:71:35.590 --> 00:71:40.029
I watched UFC two and then I
had to go back and, you
1235
00:71:40.109 --> 00:71:42.310
know, try to get copies of
the verse one. Yeah, looking at
1236
00:71:42.310 --> 00:71:45.310
this little Brazilian guy beating the shit
out of people. That should have been
1237
00:71:45.390 --> 00:71:47.699
my hero. Yeah, and I'm
going. I was so mad, it's
1238
00:71:47.699 --> 00:71:50.500
like it my whole life was a
lie, because I wanted to be Bruce
1239
00:71:50.539 --> 00:71:55.220
Lee. You know, I thinking
that's legit. You know, I'm Nope,
1240
00:71:55.260 --> 00:72:00.659
nope. They got just tore up. I just remember how crazy it
1241
00:72:00.779 --> 00:72:05.569
was. That style just that's all
they ever talked about is how it wouldn't
1242
00:72:05.569 --> 00:72:09.449
work. It wouldn't work. Don't
know how hois is doing. It is
1243
00:72:09.529 --> 00:72:14.970
like, well, just watch.
I lived in denial easy until somebody you
1244
00:72:15.130 --> 00:72:17.119
just suit me and I'm like crap, because I thought the same thing.
1245
00:72:17.239 --> 00:72:20.199
Like I walked in my first gym
and I sized everybody up the same as
1246
00:72:20.239 --> 00:72:24.399
you, like, yeah, this
is gonna be easy, and literally everybody
1247
00:72:24.399 --> 00:72:27.880
man handled me, including a girl. No, yeah, yeah, which
1248
00:72:28.000 --> 00:72:30.069
is not surprising, but it's just
fun to say. Yeah, there's a
1249
00:72:30.390 --> 00:72:33.750
there's a young lady smaller than Morgan
and our fresh blue belt, and yeah,
1250
00:72:33.869 --> 00:72:36.670
my Song Want Abby Abbey. Yeah, I know why. Yeah,
1251
00:72:36.670 --> 00:72:41.390
anytime my arm got past thirty degree, she just aren't bar me or triangle
1252
00:72:41.510 --> 00:72:44.109
me, and I didn't know what
that was going on. I wonder if
1253
00:72:44.109 --> 00:72:46.060
she's still and I'd like to see
her in Morgan Roll. I think abby's
1254
00:72:46.100 --> 00:72:48.779
a purple belt now. She was
lass. I knew because when I came
1255
00:72:48.819 --> 00:72:50.539
back, when I got out of
the army in two thousand and ten.
1256
00:72:50.619 --> 00:72:55.539
I end up training at their school
where she was at okay, for that's
1257
00:72:55.579 --> 00:72:57.539
where I was at about a year
in half and then they're started an.
1258
00:72:57.579 --> 00:72:59.210
I fell out. But yeah,
I knew hobby, I knew all those
1259
00:72:59.210 --> 00:73:01.850
guys and she was cool. She
was kind of just the same as Morgan.
1260
00:73:01.970 --> 00:73:04.529
Just don't dream like a girl.
Yeah, she saw my Gosh,
1261
00:73:04.609 --> 00:73:09.449
gets mad if you even get close
to that, and it become because of
1262
00:73:09.449 --> 00:73:12.729
interesting to watch her and Morgan get
at it. Absolutely Morgan's got some skin.
1263
00:73:12.960 --> 00:73:15.840
People that Oh, super fight,
let's set it up. They would
1264
00:73:15.880 --> 00:73:19.600
he martan's got some skills, unless
you try, like when she was we
1265
00:73:19.760 --> 00:73:24.319
ran into to her last tournament where
she got kind of muscled. Is What
1266
00:73:24.479 --> 00:73:26.800
it looked like. When I watched
ideo kicked in the face. What?
1267
00:73:27.000 --> 00:73:30.029
Twice? What did? She got
slammed. Didn't I show you. My
1268
00:73:30.149 --> 00:73:31.949
wife got the video. I'd say, oh my gosh, dude's got slam.
1269
00:73:32.069 --> 00:73:36.989
Dude, yeah, they're like three
times. It was bad and I
1270
00:73:38.109 --> 00:73:40.949
watch a little bit of video and
I just it just pissed me off.
1271
00:73:40.989 --> 00:73:44.140
So same here Jen was watching is
like all that's bad. I'm like,
1272
00:73:44.180 --> 00:73:45.460
I can't watch it. She's like
why? I'm like, that's bullshit.
1273
00:73:45.460 --> 00:73:48.699
You have is good enough for reps
to keep the fighter safe. Otherwise,
1274
00:73:48.779 --> 00:73:51.899
don't and look at how she ended
up. That's not our Morgan. Morgan
1275
00:73:51.979 --> 00:73:57.449
defends herself more than like. First
and foremost, Morgan defends herself right,
1276
00:73:57.649 --> 00:74:00.569
you're not going to get that kind
of damage defending yourself unless somebody's just being
1277
00:74:00.609 --> 00:74:05.090
a freaking ass. But I she
said the girls really nice, but there's
1278
00:74:05.090 --> 00:74:09.369
a big difference between nice and well, yeah, who the hell you roll
1279
00:74:09.609 --> 00:74:12.119
and how you roll. There's nice
people that I don't like rolling with.
1280
00:74:12.279 --> 00:74:15.960
Yeah, I can be your best
friend. I'm sitting right here. Fuck,
1281
00:74:15.560 --> 00:74:19.760
how did you know get a asshole
that just with that? That girls
1282
00:74:19.800 --> 00:74:24.630
should definitely should have got D cut. And that's kind of I feel bad
1283
00:74:24.750 --> 00:74:28.510
not being a be there and saying
something, but that just kind of it.
1284
00:74:28.949 --> 00:74:31.229
It kind of sucks because when stuff
like that happens, it makes me
1285
00:74:31.310 --> 00:74:35.710
feel like this, that her opponent
maybe knew the referee or, you know,
1286
00:74:35.829 --> 00:74:40.460
things like yeah, something. Yeah, I know that Shanna competed at
1287
00:74:40.500 --> 00:74:45.340
the Michigan Open Two thousand and fifteen. That's when I took I took first
1288
00:74:45.380 --> 00:74:53.090
at purple and she was competing for
first place and she was in this girl's
1289
00:74:53.130 --> 00:74:58.210
guard and the girls said up to
grab Morgan's, Shanna's collar and more or
1290
00:74:58.250 --> 00:75:00.170
Shannon just kind of shoved her back
down to the ground and the REF stood
1291
00:75:00.170 --> 00:75:02.409
up in d cut right there.
You shouldn't Ma said it was she slammer
1292
00:75:02.489 --> 00:75:06.090
down the ground, but I got
the video, but the referee was that
1293
00:75:06.159 --> 00:75:10.479
girl's coach. Are You freaking kidding
me? Shit, why would you want
1294
00:75:10.479 --> 00:75:13.520
to win that way? Like,
yeah, I give you dcute me.
1295
00:75:13.640 --> 00:75:15.000
I would be like if I got
a DQ against me, I'll be like
1296
00:75:15.039 --> 00:75:17.600
it, is that serious, because
let's go. Yeah, like, I
1297
00:75:18.119 --> 00:75:20.789
I got the video you gave me
saying the girl at girl stands up,
1298
00:75:20.789 --> 00:75:23.670
runs around her hands. I'm like
Je, like, you're going to be
1299
00:75:23.710 --> 00:75:26.949
happy for that? Yeah, didn't
say nothing to me. Yeah, come
1300
00:75:27.029 --> 00:75:30.189
on now. It was just crazy, right. But yeah, it's that's
1301
00:75:30.189 --> 00:75:33.109
the only sucks about competing. Sometimes
a lot of the people that are hosting
1302
00:75:33.189 --> 00:75:36.500
the tournament, their people are in
it, you know. So it's like,
1303
00:75:36.699 --> 00:75:40.100
you know, they're referee in their
own students. That's some bullshit,
1304
00:75:40.220 --> 00:75:42.779
you know. So it's just stupid. Jad, it was that one of
1305
00:75:42.779 --> 00:75:45.340
the first ones I rolled with.
She's funny shit. Watch. Yeah,
1306
00:75:45.420 --> 00:75:48.619
she's a hundred miles and a hundred
miles an hour. Although we were doing
1307
00:75:48.859 --> 00:75:51.409
guard passing. He saw right do
guy passing. So she was by my
1308
00:75:51.609 --> 00:75:57.210
partner and I tried to pass her
guard. I'm like this isn't happening.
1309
00:75:58.329 --> 00:76:00.810
Wow, it's really tough. She's
taught and she doesn't you. She's strong
1310
00:76:00.890 --> 00:76:03.289
and Shit, but she doesn't really
use her strength too much. He uses
1311
00:76:03.319 --> 00:76:06.640
it to for speed more n her, her niece, slice is legit is
1312
00:76:06.920 --> 00:76:10.600
well good. Yeah, I was
impressed. I don't know where she much
1313
00:76:10.640 --> 00:76:13.039
usually comes a morning classly, but
she has been about them. Love.
1314
00:76:13.199 --> 00:76:15.960
Yeah, she's pretty busy. That
wasn't you doing all kinds of she's got
1315
00:76:15.039 --> 00:76:19.590
like seventeen kids or's yeah, for
whatever. I think for kids. And
1316
00:76:19.630 --> 00:76:23.310
then she starts. You want to
do something. She's trying to start like
1317
00:76:23.390 --> 00:76:30.149
a gosh kind of like I've just
a I got center for kids or something
1318
00:76:30.189 --> 00:76:32.140
like that. Okay, you know
something like that, and I think then
1319
00:76:32.180 --> 00:76:35.779
the Hudsonville kind of area. Okay, strange, I can see you're doing
1320
00:76:35.819 --> 00:76:39.020
some trying to start some kind of
group for kids. I'm sure my wife
1321
00:76:39.060 --> 00:76:43.260
knows about it. They became like
they rolled together on those morning classes.
1322
00:76:43.420 --> 00:76:45.420
Oh yeah, so and then Jen
stopped going. Yeah, it seems that
1323
00:76:45.539 --> 00:76:50.369
a week later Shay stop going.
So it was like yeah, yeah,
1324
00:76:50.409 --> 00:76:55.689
there's only there was only like three
dudes there this morning. Yeah, it
1325
00:76:55.810 --> 00:76:59.409
was Nate Ryan and then a new
guy showed up from another school and wanted
1326
00:76:59.409 --> 00:77:01.960
to train work out for a little
bit. That was it, and Tuesday
1327
00:77:02.000 --> 00:77:06.800
it was just nate and Justin.
So it was it was. It's just
1328
00:77:08.039 --> 00:77:11.840
wants been slow. Jen wants to
be there. It's just she can't.
1329
00:77:12.640 --> 00:77:15.229
She works so damn much and so
hard. She's exhausted, but she's like
1330
00:77:15.510 --> 00:77:18.069
she felt bad for not going.
She's like to think trouble, give me
1331
00:77:18.189 --> 00:77:23.229
crappling. Oh Yeah, Oh yeah, is Oh, like yeah, I
1332
00:77:23.390 --> 00:77:27.750
was injured, and he's like where
yet? So yeah, but yeah,
1333
00:77:27.909 --> 00:77:32.340
he doesn't mean it, but a
little bit. So what would you say
1334
00:77:32.340 --> 00:77:35.739
to somebody that's thinking about quitting?
Because everybody has that thought. Like they're
1335
00:77:35.779 --> 00:77:40.460
injured there they got the Bluebell Blues. They don't feel like they're breggor par
1336
00:77:40.579 --> 00:77:43.340
is bad as me. Right,
they suck really bad, like Kip,
1337
00:77:43.460 --> 00:77:46.810
you know something you know, because
I think it's struck us all at one
1338
00:77:46.890 --> 00:77:49.250
point. And tell you. So, what do you say that to the
1339
00:77:49.289 --> 00:77:51.970
person that maybe is on the fence? I mean, why do you want
1340
00:77:51.970 --> 00:77:55.609
to quit? I think be the
first thing I ask you. You know,
1341
00:77:55.649 --> 00:77:58.329
if somebody came as I'm one to
think about Quinn and bike, why?
1342
00:77:59.399 --> 00:78:01.039
And you know it's you know,
we're moving, you know, something
1343
00:78:01.079 --> 00:78:03.239
like that. Yeah, I guess
you got to quit. or or if
1344
00:78:03.279 --> 00:78:06.279
it's like a money thing, you
know we can work something out to where
1345
00:78:06.560 --> 00:78:11.359
you know we can make it work
for you as far as money. If
1346
00:78:11.399 --> 00:78:15.590
it's you're having the you know,
your plateau and you feel like you're not
1347
00:78:15.590 --> 00:78:17.789
getting any better, that's gonna that's
gonna Happen. It happened to me,
1348
00:78:18.510 --> 00:78:20.909
you know. Oh, I've only
been in a year and it did.
1349
00:78:21.149 --> 00:78:24.470
You know, the only thing I
can say is keep if you like doing
1350
00:78:24.510 --> 00:78:28.739
Jiujitsu and you enjoy training, don't
stop. I mean I can I know
1351
00:78:28.859 --> 00:78:31.460
it's easy to say and it's a
lot harder to do, because I've been
1352
00:78:31.500 --> 00:78:36.739
there. I've wanted to quit dozens
of times, but then I find myself
1353
00:78:38.380 --> 00:78:41.380
like I need it, I need
to go work out, I need I
1354
00:78:41.449 --> 00:78:44.409
need that physical exertion, you know, and just getting sweaty and working out
1355
00:78:44.409 --> 00:78:46.529
with guys at school and just kind
of forgetting about everything that happened during the
1356
00:78:46.529 --> 00:78:50.850
day and just focus on Jiu Jitsu. You know, if you want to
1357
00:78:50.890 --> 00:78:55.210
quit, you know, at the
end of the day, I can't make
1358
00:78:55.250 --> 00:78:58.079
up your mind for you, you
know, but if you like doing it
1359
00:78:58.760 --> 00:79:02.239
and you're having some problems, just
try to keep pushing through, you know.
1360
00:79:02.319 --> 00:79:04.239
But ultimate at the end of the
day it's your decision. You know.
1361
00:79:04.399 --> 00:79:09.079
Yeah, fair enough. So what
if you're really old and just keep
1362
00:79:09.079 --> 00:79:13.869
hurting yourself for a bitterly? Because
that's me. No excuses, I think.
1363
00:79:13.869 --> 00:79:15.869
Let's keep hurting myself over and over. Yeah, the only reason you're
1364
00:79:15.869 --> 00:79:19.989
hurting yourself, I think, is
because you're either fighting out of a lot
1365
00:79:20.029 --> 00:79:24.859
of bad things and you're letting your
you're getting hurt because you're not. You're
1366
00:79:24.859 --> 00:79:28.260
not, you're you're let your getting
putting bad positions, for one. I
1367
00:79:28.340 --> 00:79:30.460
mean when you started, just to
your body's going to get banged up.
1368
00:79:30.460 --> 00:79:31.899
Oh Yeah, there, and I
went through that, I did. But
1369
00:79:32.060 --> 00:79:36.899
now it's more I'm Tru I just
never recovered from my accident because Paul can.
1370
00:79:38.380 --> 00:79:41.369
I've listened to Paul a ton because
he'd pretty much his hammers home,
1371
00:79:41.449 --> 00:79:44.970
whatever you've told me. Yeah,
and I don't really push very hard with
1372
00:79:45.010 --> 00:79:46.770
anybody anymore. I just have a
good time, want to make sure the
1373
00:79:46.850 --> 00:79:50.609
role and learn something while I'm doing
it. So I'm good there, but
1374
00:79:51.050 --> 00:79:55.720
she's opiqued my next Jack, so
I end up defending that in this jerk
1375
00:79:55.800 --> 00:79:59.600
off over here. F aaking Oh, I only go left. Well,
1376
00:79:59.640 --> 00:80:02.279
that's my bad side, and he
just abuses shit. I got my smart
1377
00:80:02.359 --> 00:80:05.640
side, my dumb side. I'm
sorry, Kitty, and you're smart side
1378
00:80:05.840 --> 00:80:12.949
fucks up my friend bad side.
So for me I had to listen to
1379
00:80:13.029 --> 00:80:16.069
you finally because you're like stop,
just stop, if you're hurt, take
1380
00:80:16.149 --> 00:80:18.670
time off, for you're going to
be off that much longer because I'm not
1381
00:80:18.789 --> 00:80:23.619
hurting. Like yeah, I'm getting
bruised, but I don't really. It's
1382
00:80:23.699 --> 00:80:27.100
Bruce. You can run into people, but I'm not getting injured. It's
1383
00:80:27.140 --> 00:80:30.699
just my classical and my fucking neck
are still stupid. Oh yeah, I
1384
00:80:30.739 --> 00:80:33.020
mean I I still get don't get
wrong, I still get hurt. Oh
1385
00:80:33.060 --> 00:80:34.930
Yeah, a bunch of Bue,
like I got a bad I got a
1386
00:80:35.010 --> 00:80:39.010
bad neck. You know, I
got pinched nerves. You know, my
1387
00:80:39.050 --> 00:80:41.210
right arm goes on once in a
while. No, yeah, my thumbs
1388
00:80:41.250 --> 00:80:44.050
and Numb all the time. That's, you know, just previous. You
1389
00:80:44.090 --> 00:80:45.770
know, being in the military for
so long, you know, I just
1390
00:80:45.850 --> 00:80:47.210
kind of got beat up. You
know, when I was in there,
1391
00:80:47.250 --> 00:80:50.920
you don't being doing what I did. It was, you know, you're
1392
00:80:50.920 --> 00:80:54.560
wearing body armor and you know you're
on the ground. And what did you
1393
00:80:54.600 --> 00:80:57.680
do in the army? I was
an infantry. Oh Wow, yeah,
1394
00:80:57.880 --> 00:81:00.800
for sure, carrying, I think
what all my gear on? I was
1395
00:81:00.880 --> 00:81:04.869
probably I bet you I was over
three hundred pounds, carrying my old Lord
1396
00:81:04.949 --> 00:81:08.430
I am, all my basic loading
my body on, my Kevlar, my
1397
00:81:08.510 --> 00:81:11.470
mask, my weapon, you know, everything I needed, you know,
1398
00:81:11.590 --> 00:81:14.510
to get through the day, you
know. And then I was even a
1399
00:81:14.550 --> 00:81:15.270
little bit bigger. I was always
when I was in the arm I was
1400
00:81:15.270 --> 00:81:18.300
always walking around right about to twenty
to twenty five. So you're bigger here.
1401
00:81:18.340 --> 00:81:21.260
That's a that's a big bill.
That's for your build. That's big.
1402
00:81:21.340 --> 00:81:25.020
Yeah, you know, and your
you figure your vest is forty five
1403
00:81:25.060 --> 00:81:27.699
pounds. You kevl our helmet,
you know, it's probably around eight.
1404
00:81:28.140 --> 00:81:30.260
And then you got your basic load. You know you're carrying. If you're
1405
00:81:30.260 --> 00:81:31.859
carrying. I'm sixteen, you're caring
two hundred and twenty rounds. You carrying.
1406
00:81:32.010 --> 00:81:35.890
I was saw gun her, so
I carry carried six, six hundred
1407
00:81:35.890 --> 00:81:40.090
rounds on me. She said,
she and that the SA Ain't small.
1408
00:81:40.489 --> 00:81:43.449
No, holy hit, that's a
big gun. Yeah, you know so.
1409
00:81:44.569 --> 00:81:46.439
And it's not that I had to
carry that much. That much ammo.
1410
00:81:47.439 --> 00:81:50.319
Usually have you two hundred around drum
on your rifle and you maybe carryn
1411
00:81:50.319 --> 00:81:54.359
extra drum. Then you got another
guy when you rather have too much that.
1412
00:81:54.720 --> 00:81:58.319
No, no, that's kind of
hard, man. If I can,
1413
00:81:58.399 --> 00:82:00.319
if I can carry this much that
I'm going to have it right on
1414
00:82:00.399 --> 00:82:02.470
me. Yeah, because you know
we'd have other guys in the squad,
1415
00:82:02.510 --> 00:82:05.750
you know, carry extra. You
know drums are too for nine Amal.
1416
00:82:08.149 --> 00:82:10.350
But I was like, screw it, I'm just going to carry myself that
1417
00:82:10.390 --> 00:82:13.869
way. I got it just case. Doesn't surprise me at all. More,
1418
00:82:14.470 --> 00:82:15.500
I'm not. I'm not mad at
that. Like now, I don't
1419
00:82:15.539 --> 00:82:17.979
care. It's going to be in
a person. But so, you know,
1420
00:82:18.100 --> 00:82:19.659
I think that took a big toll
on me. You know, we
1421
00:82:19.699 --> 00:82:23.260
used to do a lot of being
a military being, doing a lot of
1422
00:82:23.260 --> 00:82:24.859
physical stuf. We're doing a lot
of road marks. As you know,
1423
00:82:24.899 --> 00:82:27.300
you're on your feet, you know
all. You know we're repelling, you
1424
00:82:27.340 --> 00:82:29.380
know, we're jumping out of things, you know we're hitting the ground hard
1425
00:82:29.380 --> 00:82:30.289
and it's just, you know,
being an infatory, it's night, it's
1426
00:82:30.289 --> 00:82:35.489
a it's a young man's occupation.
How many times you think yourself, I
1427
00:82:35.529 --> 00:82:42.050
should have joined the coastguard? I
don't think those ever. Those ever came
1428
00:82:42.050 --> 00:82:47.359
across my mind. About the Nave
Air Force, name. Now I'm a
1429
00:82:47.439 --> 00:82:50.960
proud I was proud. I'm proud
to be be to serve in the United
1430
00:82:50.960 --> 00:82:54.199
States army. That's probesome. You
know, should be. Well, thank
1431
00:82:54.239 --> 00:82:56.640
you for your service. I appreciate
that. I appreciate it. Thanks.
1432
00:82:57.039 --> 00:83:00.029
It's awesome. Do you wish you
had you Jitsu when you were serving?
1433
00:83:00.350 --> 00:83:02.029
Like, would that have helped you
out with it been more fun? Absolutely,
1434
00:83:02.069 --> 00:83:04.510
yeah, yeah, because we used
to do we used to getting we
1435
00:83:04.510 --> 00:83:08.670
used to go to these giant rubber
pits. Oh yeah, and we did.
1436
00:83:08.710 --> 00:83:14.699
It was like platoon on platoon.
We just get in it is beat
1437
00:83:14.779 --> 00:83:15.699
the crap out of each other.
If I would knew it just a little
1438
00:83:15.699 --> 00:83:17.539
bit of just sa proud of down
a lot of better fun. Yeah,
1439
00:83:17.579 --> 00:83:21.140
I know what. That kind of
goes along with our things that we talked
1440
00:83:21.180 --> 00:83:27.210
about is is law enforcement and not
being trained. Oh, absolutely, you
1441
00:83:27.250 --> 00:83:30.850
know. I mean we pulled up
videos of idiots just getting whooped by our
1442
00:83:30.890 --> 00:83:34.930
dude that's on whatever, because they've
no clue what to do with yeah,
1443
00:83:34.930 --> 00:83:40.250
they don't know the first thing about
selfdefense. And your police officer are security
1444
00:83:40.289 --> 00:83:42.640
guy him, like, come on, you got it. Oh my God,
1445
00:83:42.720 --> 00:83:45.000
it's it's great, it's crazy.
Yeah, no, I think the
1446
00:83:45.279 --> 00:83:47.720
police force definitely needs to figure out
a lot better ways to be able to
1447
00:83:47.720 --> 00:83:51.119
deal with people like that. You
know that the overworked and under trained.
1448
00:83:51.439 --> 00:83:56.069
Absolutely, I mean definitely under definitely
undertrained. That's from out that you'd have
1449
00:83:56.069 --> 00:83:59.630
half the police. Violence of the
police were trained to deal with all in
1450
00:83:59.710 --> 00:84:01.189
type of situations. So they were
comfortable with it, right. But you
1451
00:84:01.270 --> 00:84:04.590
know, that's what the military does. They get you comfortable with being uncomfortable.
1452
00:84:04.789 --> 00:84:06.989
That we discussed before at the time, because if you're police officer,
1453
00:84:08.069 --> 00:84:12.420
there's always a weapon at the scene. You cannot lose that fight and if
1454
00:84:12.420 --> 00:84:15.380
you can't fight, you have to
use that weapon to make sure you don't
1455
00:84:15.539 --> 00:84:16.739
lose that fight. It's just it's
that simple. They don't know that got
1456
00:84:16.819 --> 00:84:19.100
to come. Jobs are much more
regularly. Oh Yeah, you know,
1457
00:84:19.180 --> 00:84:23.579
and that's the reason of the we're
having the problems with the police we are
1458
00:84:23.659 --> 00:84:25.569
now. It's because, at the
end of the day, they're human and
1459
00:84:25.649 --> 00:84:27.649
they're, yeah, about their own
life. Oh, yeah, for sure,
1460
00:84:27.970 --> 00:84:30.090
you know. So I got somebody
to go home to. Yeah,
1461
00:84:30.130 --> 00:84:32.170
you know. Yeah, so it's
you know, they're trying to protect themselves
1462
00:84:32.170 --> 00:84:35.050
at the same time and trying to
control a situation. HMM, you know.
1463
00:84:35.369 --> 00:84:38.529
Oh, it's a hard ass job. I would never be able to
1464
00:84:38.680 --> 00:84:41.319
die. I know you want you
would looked into it a while. Glad
1465
00:84:41.319 --> 00:84:43.439
I did. Yeah, I checked
in the state police cademy for a little
1466
00:84:43.479 --> 00:84:46.439
bit. And Yeah, kind of
my wife after being in the military,
1467
00:84:46.479 --> 00:84:50.600
because my wife and I were together
before I enjoined the military. Oh Wow,
1468
00:84:50.680 --> 00:84:54.909
so she you know, it was
with me one and a left for
1469
00:84:55.029 --> 00:84:58.390
basic training and a lot I t
and she was with me when I got
1470
00:84:58.470 --> 00:85:01.350
deployed the first times, with the
second time, third time. You know.
1471
00:85:01.390 --> 00:85:03.590
So it's like that's a hell of
a woman you got there. So
1472
00:85:03.789 --> 00:85:06.300
she's doing dude, all that and
then you got a full time job and
1473
00:85:06.380 --> 00:85:10.300
you run a school and the kids. I mean, dude, she's awesome.
1474
00:85:10.340 --> 00:85:13.500
Yeah, my wife. Don't tell
her I said that. She's I
1475
00:85:13.539 --> 00:85:15.180
couldn't ask for a better woman.
I really couldn't know. I don't think
1476
00:85:15.220 --> 00:85:17.500
he could. She never complains about, you know, going to me,
1477
00:85:17.539 --> 00:85:19.500
going to the gym, going to
train. You know, she's she's a
1478
00:85:19.539 --> 00:85:24.449
blue beat herself. She's a Badass
to she's she definitely wish she could train
1479
00:85:24.449 --> 00:85:28.649
a little bit more. You know, things are well, she's got restraints,
1480
00:85:28.689 --> 00:85:30.930
so it's all good, though.
She'll be back some day. Yeah,
1481
00:85:30.050 --> 00:85:34.010
but she's a she's awesome school.
Yeah, you couldn't do what you
1482
00:85:34.090 --> 00:85:36.720
did unless you had a woman like
you do. I don't know. He's
1483
00:85:36.760 --> 00:85:40.680
cool and it's, you know,
with her being a blue belt and like
1484
00:85:40.840 --> 00:85:43.319
and doing Jiujitsu and you know it. I think it helps out to you
1485
00:85:43.359 --> 00:85:45.680
know, SPEC like you, yeah, Jan, you know. Oh,
1486
00:85:45.720 --> 00:85:46.680
yeah, your wife, Nicole.
You know, you get her into it
1487
00:85:46.680 --> 00:85:48.640
and then she kind of you,
kind of sucks you in. You know.
1488
00:85:48.720 --> 00:85:50.949
It's yeah, my wife and I
think you could never talk her to
1489
00:85:51.029 --> 00:85:55.510
doing it, but she she gets
it. She yeah, she has a
1490
00:85:55.590 --> 00:85:58.149
love for it. She does what. I showed her the video of the
1491
00:86:00.109 --> 00:86:03.229
grace he's heron and hit her when
they brought that girl up or down from
1492
00:86:03.229 --> 00:86:05.659
Alaska. Oh, put that.
Oh, yeah, they got beat up
1493
00:86:05.659 --> 00:86:09.539
by yeah, he's my wife seen
that. She's like when can we sign
1494
00:86:09.619 --> 00:86:12.420
them up? And Yeah, luckily
you, we were right down the road.
1495
00:86:12.579 --> 00:86:15.180
So and you took them that young. So it just worked out perfect.
1496
00:86:15.220 --> 00:86:17.729
And my wife is us all kinds
of on boy. So even though
1497
00:86:17.729 --> 00:86:21.729
she doesn't train, she has no
desire to. She did. We're my
1498
00:86:21.810 --> 00:86:27.289
wife's even working on her at this
point. I mean the biggest thing is,
1499
00:86:27.649 --> 00:86:30.010
you know, start out slow,
you know, just get it.
1500
00:86:30.329 --> 00:86:33.039
It wouldn't hurt for her just to
know some things. That way, she
1501
00:86:33.119 --> 00:86:35.840
has it just in case she needs
it, because I got to tell ass
1502
00:86:36.159 --> 00:86:40.359
and all my kids might you know, my oldest sheet gets mad all the
1503
00:86:40.399 --> 00:86:43.479
time. We go on the gym
and she just gets grumping him up it.
1504
00:86:43.560 --> 00:86:45.359
Well, she's at that age.
Yeah, I'm trying to tell hers,
1505
00:86:45.399 --> 00:86:47.989
like you know, I'd rather you
know it and not need it.
1506
00:86:48.149 --> 00:86:50.109
The need it and I know it. Yeah, I mean so if I
1507
00:86:50.350 --> 00:86:53.229
want to feel comfortable that I you
know, hey, you know you're going
1508
00:86:53.270 --> 00:86:55.670
to be a teenager and a few
years that, you know, you can
1509
00:86:55.710 --> 00:86:58.430
be going out and hanging. I
want to know me personally as a dad,
1510
00:86:58.909 --> 00:87:00.029
you know. I want to feel
comfortable that you. If something happens,
1511
00:87:00.029 --> 00:87:02.619
you can handle absolutely. Royer.
Oh yeah, that's that's why my
1512
00:87:02.739 --> 00:87:05.140
girls are in it and right now
we can pull out the DAD card and
1513
00:87:05.220 --> 00:87:09.579
make them go. So I'm going
to use that dad guard until yourn so
1514
00:87:09.739 --> 00:87:13.500
that shit wears out. It's getting
used, and so for my girls really
1515
00:87:13.579 --> 00:87:15.649
like it. My young gets is
struggling because she's in school all day now
1516
00:87:15.729 --> 00:87:19.210
and she's really tall. But she
loves it, she said that's she's like.
1517
00:87:19.609 --> 00:87:21.250
I've asked her. I'm like,
do you want to sit out and
1518
00:87:21.369 --> 00:87:25.569
take a break, and she's like
no, absolutely not, even though she
1519
00:87:25.689 --> 00:87:28.010
gets well, if you want her
to stop crying or anything, just have
1520
00:87:28.170 --> 00:87:30.520
me go sere because she does not
want to grind from me utter. It's
1521
00:87:30.880 --> 00:87:34.680
so she's you, I'm fine.
So here. Well, there you go.
1522
00:87:35.479 --> 00:87:38.399
She's doing good. Dumb proud of
her. Yeah, no, other
1523
00:87:38.520 --> 00:87:40.279
girls are doing great. All the
girls are doing great. You know,
1524
00:87:40.279 --> 00:87:44.390
I thought I mean our school.
I mean we have more girls we have
1525
00:87:44.510 --> 00:87:47.670
boys yeah, by for like,
all right, for love that. Yeah,
1526
00:87:47.710 --> 00:87:50.710
it's so great, because that's almost
what was it designed for? That?
1527
00:87:50.869 --> 00:87:54.750
Well, we mentioned before, like
a lot of people that you find
1528
00:87:54.789 --> 00:88:00.020
Jiujitsu are like you and Jesse,
Justin and rob like you're walking down the
1529
00:88:00.100 --> 00:88:03.699
street. I'm not blading, went
themselves. Yeah, rather than mess with
1530
00:88:03.779 --> 00:88:06.699
you. Yeah, so it's people
like you know, me and kit that
1531
00:88:06.859 --> 00:88:10.539
perhaps need this more because we're going
to get picked on, as you know.
1532
00:88:10.899 --> 00:88:13.210
Any any woman. I don't know
about you, but I'm huge.
1533
00:88:14.810 --> 00:88:20.409
Check on my leats, Bro Strap, start from my ears. But you
1534
00:88:20.489 --> 00:88:24.170
know, my girl, I think
you know you guys being day, it's
1535
00:88:24.170 --> 00:88:29.199
to you know, it's it's it's
comforting going. You know your girls are
1536
00:88:29.239 --> 00:88:31.479
starting to learn something that down the
road of something gets crazy. that.
1537
00:88:31.760 --> 00:88:34.680
Yeah, Oh, yeah, feel
comfortable with defended them. So, yeah,
1538
00:88:34.920 --> 00:88:38.520
which comes to show they can handle
himself. Yeah, I never could.
1539
00:88:38.520 --> 00:88:40.439
You know, I was always the
one. I got picked on my
1540
00:88:40.479 --> 00:88:43.109
whole life. You know, I
was. I was always socially awkward,
1541
00:88:43.109 --> 00:88:45.670
I didn't have many friends, I
wasn't involved anything, so I was an
1542
00:88:45.670 --> 00:88:48.069
easy target and then I couldn't do
anything about above and beyond that. So,
1543
00:88:48.350 --> 00:88:50.189
Oh yeah, yeah, I don't
want that for my kids. But
1544
00:88:50.270 --> 00:88:55.069
you're taekwondo. Yeah, that's I
go onto. But I just did what
1545
00:88:55.149 --> 00:88:57.380
I was inside of the same because
I was in the same situation. I
1546
00:88:57.460 --> 00:88:59.859
mean when I like I said,
we used to move it out when I
1547
00:88:59.859 --> 00:89:01.699
was a kid and being always being
the new kids. You just can't get
1548
00:89:01.699 --> 00:89:04.340
a click right and don't fall into
a click when you're like that. Yeah,
1549
00:89:04.380 --> 00:89:09.739
we live down in Springfield, Tennessee. For a while when we were
1550
00:89:09.779 --> 00:89:15.050
down there and that was it was
like your stereotypical like Chad's running home.
1551
00:89:15.449 --> 00:89:18.810
Yeah, kids are change away,
trying to be up. I'm running almost
1552
00:89:18.810 --> 00:89:21.890
passic and just you know, because
the school was like maybe two, but
1553
00:89:23.010 --> 00:89:25.880
three blocks away. Yeah, I'm
running home after school every day, I
1554
00:89:26.439 --> 00:89:30.399
bet you just I got caught one
time on a snow hill and three kids
1555
00:89:30.560 --> 00:89:32.359
beat the piss out of me.
They pull my it was winter time,
1556
00:89:32.439 --> 00:89:34.880
so they had a big Snow Hill, say, pulled my hat down over
1557
00:89:34.920 --> 00:89:39.069
my eyes and one kid held me
down by my arm so I couldn't move.
1558
00:89:39.189 --> 00:89:41.590
One kid held me on my feet
and the other one jumped off the
1559
00:89:41.630 --> 00:89:44.710
snow bank on my stomach and did
like the like. The People's elbow with
1560
00:89:44.829 --> 00:89:48.590
boat with the knees repeatedly hole lo
a chandering this. I've heard this story
1561
00:89:48.750 --> 00:89:53.859
to no, I can't imagine that. I heard a lot. So it's
1562
00:89:53.979 --> 00:89:59.819
so interesting. How many people at
the gym mart more similar to what's happening
1563
00:89:59.859 --> 00:90:03.420
to you than what happened to me? HMM, I don't know. Or
1564
00:90:03.500 --> 00:90:08.489
just in in general and martial arts, because I didn't go through that.
1565
00:90:08.890 --> 00:90:11.729
I don't. I know, and
I also, I told Paul the other
1566
00:90:11.770 --> 00:90:14.850
day, I was a different person. So I'd fit in, which I
1567
00:90:14.930 --> 00:90:17.609
think most people do. is so
you're all cool because you're all doing the
1568
00:90:17.689 --> 00:90:21.039
same shit. Well, I didn't
have that issue. I was I mean
1569
00:90:21.159 --> 00:90:25.000
that's what I did. So I
was friends with everybody. Yeah, I
1570
00:90:25.079 --> 00:90:29.199
mean I've known Justin, Justin Andrews. I mean I'm at Justin when I
1571
00:90:29.239 --> 00:90:31.520
were, I moved here in ninety
six, I was freshman in high schoo
1572
00:90:31.720 --> 00:90:35.270
Nice. So I know Justin Justin
was always kind of that cool guy like
1573
00:90:35.390 --> 00:90:38.829
yeah, well, yeah, he's
said every look at the dude out of
1574
00:90:38.869 --> 00:90:42.670
me. You can't be that beautiful
and not have all the past, you
1575
00:90:42.789 --> 00:90:45.069
know. So you know, Justin, I don't think really had to deal
1576
00:90:45.069 --> 00:90:46.829
and not like that, but it's
you know, he got into Jutsu because,
1577
00:90:46.949 --> 00:90:50.020
you know, he likes the physical
aspect of that's for sure. Yeah,
1578
00:90:50.300 --> 00:90:54.140
I think other people get into it, you know that maybe we're having
1579
00:90:54.180 --> 00:90:59.460
we're struggling with something, and they
get into it thinking that it's gonna give
1580
00:90:59.539 --> 00:91:01.979
them some kind of power and able
to overcome that kind of stuff. Like
1581
00:91:02.020 --> 00:91:04.850
a Celt like I'm getting beat up, I need to learn something to kind
1582
00:91:04.850 --> 00:91:09.569
of get past that, you know, and I think a lot of people
1583
00:91:09.569 --> 00:91:11.689
to some people just don't do it, you know, they don't figure out
1584
00:91:11.689 --> 00:91:15.850
a way to better themselves to where
they're not going to get bullied. Yeah,
1585
00:91:15.930 --> 00:91:19.960
you know, there's it. Like, let's let's see, yesterday my
1586
00:91:20.039 --> 00:91:24.720
daughter comes home from school London.
She's telling me this story about this little
1587
00:91:24.720 --> 00:91:27.880
bols London. Again. She's nine, okay. She tell me this a
1588
00:91:27.880 --> 00:91:30.720
little story about this kid at school
and she's like yeah, there's this boy
1589
00:91:30.760 --> 00:91:33.029
as school, his name is Jonathan, and everybody, a lot of people,
1590
00:91:33.109 --> 00:91:36.109
like pick on them. Like why? She's like, Oh, well,
1591
00:91:38.189 --> 00:91:41.829
he kind of just wears like dirty
clothes a lot and like his parents
1592
00:91:41.869 --> 00:91:45.710
are older and he just seems like
he's kind of pouring people like kids kind
1593
00:91:45.710 --> 00:91:48.979
of mess them because he's he I'm
somes, I'm guessing you, kind of
1594
00:91:48.979 --> 00:91:53.500
feels like an outcast because he's not
wearing like the latest Ab Crome, Ba
1595
00:91:53.619 --> 00:91:55.939
sinch crap and yeah, you know, stuff like that. So he's not
1596
00:91:56.140 --> 00:91:59.020
very sociable. So people pick on
him. You know, he's an easy
1597
00:91:59.100 --> 00:92:01.090
target. So London told me at
last, right, and I was like,
1598
00:92:01.250 --> 00:92:05.250
felt horrible just because I've been there. And so I gave her one
1599
00:92:05.289 --> 00:92:08.689
of our flyers for the gym and
I wrote, I wrote, you know,
1600
00:92:09.050 --> 00:92:13.250
John to Jonathan. I was like
free membership. You always that's awesome,
1601
00:92:13.930 --> 00:92:16.239
awesome, you know. So I
she gave it to him today at
1602
00:92:16.279 --> 00:92:19.720
school. That's awesome and hopefully when
we'll get him in the door. I
1603
00:92:19.800 --> 00:92:23.640
look at you, Chad, but
also and also sid to be your stupid,
1604
00:92:24.520 --> 00:92:26.039
you know, just you know,
I think, well, look at
1605
00:92:26.079 --> 00:92:30.310
his daughter, though. I think
that's a bigger yeah, evidence ion base.
1606
00:92:30.390 --> 00:92:32.310
Like Kid, I would to do
that, because that he's done that.
1607
00:92:32.470 --> 00:92:35.069
Add He's done that multiple times.
He's like, I don't know why
1608
00:92:35.109 --> 00:92:39.149
people don't like I'm to hang out
on yeah, unless the same on sensual
1609
00:92:39.149 --> 00:92:41.310
lest. He's like I she's like, I think he's really nice. Yeah,
1610
00:92:41.350 --> 00:92:43.310
a lot of people talk to him, you know, so hopefully we
1611
00:92:43.350 --> 00:92:45.539
can get him in the door.
You know, I don't feel feel better
1612
00:92:45.579 --> 00:92:48.859
about himself. Absolutely, that's for
sure. So I just we'll see.
1613
00:92:48.979 --> 00:92:51.340
We'll keep working on hopefully getting walk
to the door in these days, you
1614
00:92:51.380 --> 00:92:54.539
know. Yeah, that'd be great. Yeah, I hope so, but
1615
00:92:55.260 --> 00:92:57.579
I don't know, and that's a
we'. I've put that out there for
1616
00:92:57.659 --> 00:93:00.529
other people to you know. Just
you know, if somebody struggling with some
1617
00:93:00.689 --> 00:93:04.489
specially women, if any kind of
women out there like struggling with anything,
1618
00:93:04.569 --> 00:93:09.010
getting beat up or abuse, you
know, just come to the gym and
1619
00:93:09.329 --> 00:93:12.689
you know I'll help you out.
I promise you know he will. So
1620
00:93:13.479 --> 00:93:16.319
I don't know, very open.
I grew up in a very abusive house.
1621
00:93:16.720 --> 00:93:20.600
My mom a day I was drunk
and you know, so any women.
1622
00:93:20.800 --> 00:93:26.439
I'm always, always there to help
women, no matter what hits home
1623
00:93:26.520 --> 00:93:30.750
for you. Makes sensolutely. It's
awesome. But in Morgan's a fantastic as
1624
00:93:30.869 --> 00:93:33.590
Dick Teacher, it's because, oh
my just one my wife. That's probably
1625
00:93:33.630 --> 00:93:38.189
no offense to you. That's one
of my wife's favorite classes. It's because
1626
00:93:38.229 --> 00:93:41.069
she breaks down. Well, it's
kind of a Combo because she breaks down
1627
00:93:41.069 --> 00:93:44.579
what you've shown. Yeah, and
she breaks it down. So it makes
1628
00:93:44.619 --> 00:93:46.659
sense for a woman. Like one
of the moves is we would normally drop
1629
00:93:46.779 --> 00:93:50.220
to an Armbar. It's run the
fuck away. I'm like, that makes
1630
00:93:50.260 --> 00:93:54.140
sense, you know, it gets
them away from a person that's larger and
1631
00:93:54.260 --> 00:93:57.569
out and I'm like that's and gem
was like that. It was so cool.
1632
00:93:57.810 --> 00:94:00.609
So, yeah, she's awesome.
Yeah, and I know I demonstrate
1633
00:94:00.649 --> 00:94:02.649
that to I think when a couple
moves as yeah, you get to do
1634
00:94:02.770 --> 00:94:06.250
down either the option a one,
yeah, and be break that off.
1635
00:94:06.289 --> 00:94:09.649
Yeah, if you want to stay
there and just pum of the dude,
1636
00:94:10.159 --> 00:94:12.479
do it. You know, if
you know you feel threatened, just get
1637
00:94:12.520 --> 00:94:15.520
the hell out of there and leave
the situation flex somebody down. You don't
1638
00:94:15.520 --> 00:94:18.039
get some melt or just you know, Mine's always run. Yeah, I
1639
00:94:18.239 --> 00:94:20.880
do. I'm like, Oh shit, running, I can't run. My
1640
00:94:20.920 --> 00:94:25.829
knees won't allow it. So I
have to break the arms. All has
1641
00:94:25.869 --> 00:94:28.909
to be tough. So, because
he kind of run, I'll want me
1642
00:94:28.989 --> 00:94:31.229
try to hobble away. Oh God, he's gonna Catch me. This sucks.
1643
00:94:31.430 --> 00:94:35.350
Well, that's my only saving grace
so far with Chad's. Chad's threatened
1644
00:94:35.350 --> 00:94:39.659
to punch me in the face,
a bunch deservedly. So, I mean
1645
00:94:40.220 --> 00:94:44.020
you, I would have punched me
by now, but in my saving grace,
1646
00:94:44.060 --> 00:94:47.619
so pretty quick, I will run. But you don't work, Guy,
1647
00:94:47.619 --> 00:94:50.060
as much as Chad. I actually
kind of want to see afoot race
1648
00:94:50.180 --> 00:94:54.649
now, not. Yeah, WE'RE
gonna have to make this happen the wealth
1649
00:94:54.649 --> 00:94:56.770
the way, the next week.
I did like a bunch of wins prints
1650
00:94:56.770 --> 00:94:59.970
yesterday. Oh so, should do
it tomorrow. That I like. My
1651
00:95:00.010 --> 00:95:02.250
legs are wrecked all day to day
at work up with I've been rubbing that
1652
00:95:02.369 --> 00:95:06.010
Tiger Bam. Oh, yeahs and
killing me. We're going to set up
1653
00:95:06.010 --> 00:95:09.319
a foot race. Let's go.
Let me know. Yeah, so,
1654
00:95:09.359 --> 00:95:12.319
I far. I follow in my
face. We're going to get on tape
1655
00:95:12.399 --> 00:95:15.279
it. Yeah, yeah, Guy, Guy Work, just did Daddy.
1656
00:95:15.760 --> 00:95:18.920
He challenged the old man to do
a race. He's you know, there's
1657
00:95:18.920 --> 00:95:21.829
a guy work, Chad, and
he was in the Marines, I think,
1658
00:95:23.670 --> 00:95:26.430
and there's a younger kid that was
just talking about this shit and Chads,
1659
00:95:26.510 --> 00:95:28.949
like you know, came down.
I don't know how it came up,
1660
00:95:28.989 --> 00:95:30.750
but they were going to race.
So they went out in this this
1661
00:95:30.909 --> 00:95:34.899
kid and Chad lined up and they
took off and this kid was beating Chad
1662
00:95:35.539 --> 00:95:42.260
a lot and then kind of got
rubber leg. She has ate it.
1663
00:95:42.819 --> 00:95:45.779
He was scraped hit. Both his
knees were just trashed, his hips was
1664
00:95:45.899 --> 00:95:47.739
trash, his elbows, and so
he did the full barrel world in all,
1665
00:95:47.779 --> 00:95:51.090
Dude, he just got rude,
just like I. Guess I win.
1666
00:95:54.090 --> 00:95:59.569
You want to really get so you
have to finish right. So,
1667
00:95:59.930 --> 00:96:01.649
Hey, Chad, do you have
you got my sense of humor yet down?
1668
00:96:01.729 --> 00:96:05.920
I'm a complete more n nine percent
of the time absolutely perfect. Other
1669
00:96:05.960 --> 00:96:09.439
one, you were mean among me
the other day. That was freaking funny.
1670
00:96:09.439 --> 00:96:12.520
I was burping. I was literally
Burp like there's so many people around
1671
00:96:12.520 --> 00:96:15.000
me, this isn't gonna smoke good. He's like, you mean much?
1672
00:96:15.039 --> 00:96:18.550
Get me, like God, no, don't kill me. It looks to
1673
00:96:18.670 --> 00:96:21.510
the side. Do you know,
man, I took my pills. Dude,
1674
00:96:21.670 --> 00:96:26.350
I'm even Keel. That's what the
pills are for. Cool. No,
1675
00:96:26.470 --> 00:96:28.989
I think you know, with anybody
at the Jim you got to feel
1676
00:96:29.029 --> 00:96:30.390
out their personality. Yeah, so, and I haven't awkward on him.
1677
00:96:30.430 --> 00:96:33.220
Yeah, but let's be honest,
it's cool. Yeah, yeah, it's
1678
00:96:33.539 --> 00:96:38.060
not. Everybody gets everybody else.
That's it is, and no one gets
1679
00:96:38.060 --> 00:96:42.220
kipped. But yeah, no,
no, no, not really. No,
1680
00:96:42.500 --> 00:96:45.579
no. But you know, the
gym is a cool culture because you
1681
00:96:45.659 --> 00:96:48.569
know, not everybody's going to be
best and friends, but everybody is Friends
1682
00:96:48.770 --> 00:96:53.170
of Oh yeah, it's yea where
it's just it's just a good culture where
1683
00:96:53.170 --> 00:96:56.250
everybody's cool. And I like it
because when I first walked into my first
1684
00:96:56.289 --> 00:97:00.050
gym, I kind of I was
always looking for that that team, HMM,
1685
00:97:00.250 --> 00:97:01.920
and I assumed I was going to
get that just by walking in and
1686
00:97:02.039 --> 00:97:04.880
putting on a white belt, like
I'm part of a team. Now it's
1687
00:97:04.960 --> 00:97:09.079
not, but it's a lot of
it should be, but it wasn't at
1688
00:97:09.119 --> 00:97:11.560
the gym I went into, which
is fine because, you know, I
1689
00:97:11.680 --> 00:97:14.000
get it. There's you know,
a lot of people just quit right away.
1690
00:97:14.039 --> 00:97:15.590
So it's like yeah, why bother
getting to know him? But the
1691
00:97:15.750 --> 00:97:19.029
culture that you have, I think, is way better because, regardless of
1692
00:97:19.149 --> 00:97:21.670
whether they might leave or not in
the chances are very, very high that
1693
00:97:21.710 --> 00:97:25.149
they will. Nobody cares. We're
going to be friend you, were going
1694
00:97:25.189 --> 00:97:26.710
to talk to you, we can
to help you out, just as much
1695
00:97:26.710 --> 00:97:30.939
as possible. And Yeah, I
mean that just it's an awesome thing to
1696
00:97:30.979 --> 00:97:33.539
have in a gym. Oh,
yeah, you and I just with the
1697
00:97:33.619 --> 00:97:36.539
school. You know, like I
said, I've trained it so many different
1698
00:97:36.539 --> 00:97:42.340
places to see there might be stopping
in for seminars. You know, one
1699
00:97:42.380 --> 00:97:47.569
of the best places I've been out
to, which curler highly recommended, was
1700
00:97:48.170 --> 00:97:54.130
Marcio Stumbowski, okay, Maka,
how they call them. I went out
1701
00:97:54.170 --> 00:97:58.920
to his school in Norwalk Connecticut,
and that do dude, the atmosphere his
1702
00:97:59.000 --> 00:98:03.760
school like it was. It was
amazing and I I'd hope some day we
1703
00:98:03.840 --> 00:98:06.800
could you get everybody could meet him. He doesn't really travel as much,
1704
00:98:06.840 --> 00:98:11.199
no more, just because he's getting
a little older, but just the atmosphere
1705
00:98:11.239 --> 00:98:15.029
to school and his personality is to
being it. Just he's very open and
1706
00:98:15.149 --> 00:98:16.789
just, you know, he's always
cheering people on. You know, that's
1707
00:98:16.829 --> 00:98:23.029
cool. Yes, it's hard.
It's hard to like me talking about it
1708
00:98:23.670 --> 00:98:25.989
doesn't give it enough right. Yeah, you know what it's like. A
1709
00:98:26.069 --> 00:98:28.220
picture doesn't really do it just.
Yeah, you got to see it.
1710
00:98:29.699 --> 00:98:33.060
I try to kind of with like
curler and him as that's all I kind
1711
00:98:33.060 --> 00:98:34.979
of want to I want to I
want to focus my school like that,
1712
00:98:35.060 --> 00:98:39.659
you know, with courler style of
Jiujitsu and curlers just way of training and
1713
00:98:39.699 --> 00:98:41.180
teaching. You know, I want
to be like that, you know,
1714
00:98:41.420 --> 00:98:46.050
with Marcio, Marcio's phenomenal Jiujitsu to
but it just just his atmosphere and how
1715
00:98:46.090 --> 00:98:48.729
he runs his school and just everything
like that. It just I kind of
1716
00:98:48.810 --> 00:98:51.569
trying to make a head, take
a little bit of both, you know.
1717
00:98:51.609 --> 00:98:55.170
I'm, yeah, making into us
of both worlds come. Yeah,
1718
00:98:55.170 --> 00:98:57.239
and it's and I do the same
thing with other schools too. I've been
1719
00:98:57.239 --> 00:98:58.520
to it. So it's, you
know, I take a little bit from
1720
00:98:58.520 --> 00:99:00.279
here and take a little bit from
here, and I see the negative at
1721
00:99:00.279 --> 00:99:02.680
this place that see the negative here
and what people are complain about, you
1722
00:99:02.760 --> 00:99:04.720
know, and just you try to
get rid of that, you know.
1723
00:99:04.840 --> 00:99:09.199
And so if we complained about you, turn it up the heat. You'll
1724
00:99:09.560 --> 00:99:13.310
you've quit doing that. That what
you're saying. Probably, I probably would
1725
00:99:13.350 --> 00:99:17.470
hold on. I gotta See,
I gotta Sneeze. Please stop. Yeah,
1726
00:99:17.470 --> 00:99:19.550
I mean there's there's this. Days
I kind of get a wild hair,
1727
00:99:19.630 --> 00:99:21.750
yes, but you know, I
gotta get a good so, yeah,
1728
00:99:21.789 --> 00:99:26.420
it's Yo. Yeah, we all
know the Chad twinkle because, oh,
1729
00:99:26.539 --> 00:99:30.460
it's gonna suck today. It's got
the twinkle. Yeah, I just
1730
00:99:30.899 --> 00:99:33.300
I liked. I like to be
hot when I'm training. It. Well,
1731
00:99:33.380 --> 00:99:35.659
was actually better for it, because
the hotter I am, the last
1732
00:99:35.739 --> 00:99:39.930
I don't don't, don't give them
any positive well, you know, after
1733
00:99:39.970 --> 00:99:43.130
you told good, but I want
to get beat up. Hold on,
1734
00:99:43.289 --> 00:99:45.449
hold on, I gotta fix this
real quick. But yeah, if you're
1735
00:99:45.489 --> 00:99:49.050
warm and real, really hot,
you know you don't get those soft tissue
1736
00:99:49.090 --> 00:99:51.729
injuries, right, that I tended? Yeah, you know, with me,
1737
00:99:51.920 --> 00:99:54.640
with like I said of them previously, it's like, you know what,
1738
00:99:54.760 --> 00:99:56.399
having the neck issues, in the
backck issues. You know, if
1739
00:99:56.399 --> 00:99:58.880
my if I'm hot, I feel
great. Yeah, Oh, yeah,
1740
00:99:58.880 --> 00:100:02.199
that I admit my wife. First
roles always kind of rough because I'm not
1741
00:100:02.479 --> 00:100:05.960
really hot yet by my next roles
might look I can bend up into a
1742
00:100:06.079 --> 00:100:10.550
Prinzel and I feel dude. But
but yeah, when I get hot,
1743
00:100:10.550 --> 00:100:14.590
I get like thousand yards stare.
I stay. You've almost lost Paul twice.
1744
00:100:15.390 --> 00:100:16.949
I've seen that look. Yeah,
a big deep breath and you're looking
1745
00:100:16.949 --> 00:100:20.149
at me. Chids, please,
yeah, not another yeah, the Birdie
1746
00:100:20.189 --> 00:100:23.699
please. Yeah, I try,
though, I give it, I give
1747
00:100:23.699 --> 00:100:26.619
it the good old college stry every
time. I yeah, like like the
1748
00:100:26.659 --> 00:100:30.739
legless of the legs last week where
you turned into doing a bicycle flick.
1749
00:100:30.020 --> 00:100:33.060
Yeah, they're doing you're doing a
flatter kicks and like I can do up
1750
00:100:33.100 --> 00:100:35.409
to like thirty. Then they're just
going to get worse and worse and they're
1751
00:100:35.449 --> 00:100:38.649
going to do what a hundred of
them? Yeah, no, he did
1752
00:100:38.810 --> 00:100:42.329
seventy only because everybody else is like
to just stopped, like I can do
1753
00:100:42.489 --> 00:100:46.729
have a conscience. Yeah, I
don't know. That's pushing it. Yeah,
1754
00:100:46.970 --> 00:100:49.000
I see. Everybody was kind of
struggle. I think Ben and I
1755
00:100:49.159 --> 00:100:53.000
and a couple other guys are maybe
still kind of going pretty strong, but
1756
00:100:53.079 --> 00:100:54.960
I was like, he's down,
he's down, he's down. Yeah,
1757
00:100:55.079 --> 00:100:58.119
Hey, hey, I only went
down for like a second and now'll go
1758
00:100:58.199 --> 00:101:00.880
back up, because you would look
at me, who's Ah Shit, keeps
1759
00:101:00.920 --> 00:101:01.560
looking at me. Oh, yeah, gotta keep going. Yeah, I
1760
00:101:01.560 --> 00:101:04.630
always realize what kind of shape I'm
not in on those kind of days.
1761
00:101:04.630 --> 00:101:09.229
Oh my God, how do you
do that? It's tough, man.
1762
00:101:09.270 --> 00:101:12.029
Yeah, Justin was doing the what
kind of PUSHUPS are they? Were you
1763
00:101:12.029 --> 00:101:14.350
just you have your elbows in front
of you. You're just using your triesteps
1764
00:101:14.390 --> 00:101:15.949
to think. MAKES A bottle pushups? Yeah, I think so. I'm
1765
00:101:15.989 --> 00:101:19.180
like, yeah, Dude, is
bad. Like how I tried one like
1766
00:101:19.340 --> 00:101:23.579
Mike. It wouldn't do it,
like my body was like some new it's
1767
00:101:23.659 --> 00:101:25.899
so awesome. All of a sudden
you just here, Paul Yep, not
1768
00:101:26.020 --> 00:101:29.420
doing that lest it. How do
you do this? Like how this is
1769
00:101:29.460 --> 00:101:32.369
a thing? At Justin does Monday
through Friday. He does cross fit.
1770
00:101:32.649 --> 00:101:36.130
God, Hey, you were right. Just cross fit. Yeah, so
1771
00:101:36.250 --> 00:101:40.329
clearly he's on the plate Paleo Diet
then, isn't he? He just bail.
1772
00:101:40.409 --> 00:101:44.050
You admit it. You don't do
Pale yeah, he wanted Justin.
1773
00:101:44.090 --> 00:101:45.649
Kind of flip flops back and forth. One one week he's a Vegan,
1774
00:101:45.729 --> 00:101:49.520
next weekend he'lly. Whatever. Do
you unfriended when he goes Vegan? Just
1775
00:101:49.680 --> 00:101:54.079
yeah, I look great off on
Facebook, but I can't be associate anymore.
1776
00:101:54.880 --> 00:101:58.000
I gotta stock a Vegan Burgers.
Oh, is just suggesting it.
1777
00:101:58.239 --> 00:102:00.640
Over. You Got Freezer Bird like, dude, you gotta come over and
1778
00:102:00.640 --> 00:102:01.869
eath this sho I got a whole
pack them in there, just raim for
1779
00:102:01.869 --> 00:102:03.829
when they came here last time.
We didn't even eat them. Yeah,
1780
00:102:03.869 --> 00:102:06.270
do you go? You just check
in when he walks in the door,
1781
00:102:06.350 --> 00:102:10.149
be like Vegan. Well, yeah, be Vegan this week. We're not.
1782
00:102:10.350 --> 00:102:13.550
You should have him come over and
like, have you know Bacon covered
1783
00:102:13.670 --> 00:102:17.300
steak as he's eating his stupid Vegan
he'd stop when he was in I guarantee.
1784
00:102:17.340 --> 00:102:23.060
Yeah, he justin school. I
love it. He's cool, Dude.
1785
00:102:23.140 --> 00:102:27.300
He he takes a good joke,
because I literally say something about it
1786
00:102:27.579 --> 00:102:30.649
was every episode and he's like,
you talked about me lat don't you like
1787
00:102:30.930 --> 00:102:32.569
love with you? Back off.
It's your hair, bro like, what
1788
00:102:32.609 --> 00:102:35.050
are you get to do here?
Don't be so pretty. He's so damn
1789
00:102:35.050 --> 00:102:39.770
it good. Well, Chad's pretty
pretty himself. Honestly, look, look
1790
00:102:39.810 --> 00:102:42.090
at the beer that. When did
you get rid of your dreadlocks? Oh
1791
00:102:42.210 --> 00:102:50.159
my God, year was that?
She's dreadlocks? They had to be ninety
1792
00:102:51.720 --> 00:102:56.000
seven, maybe. Oh, so
the you're I graduated high school. I
1793
00:102:56.119 --> 00:102:59.350
was a year I graduated as well. Hey, we're eleven. Is Somewhere
1794
00:102:59.390 --> 00:103:02.430
Nine, ninety eight? Yeah,
because I met Ashley Ninety nine and I
1795
00:103:02.510 --> 00:103:06.630
probably didn't have for it's probably about
a year. If, yeah, you
1796
00:103:06.710 --> 00:103:12.270
wanted to land at that with the
dreads, no eye. It took one
1797
00:103:12.310 --> 00:103:15.500
look at me and on the bed
like hell, no, negative ghost.
1798
00:103:15.539 --> 00:103:19.979
Right. Yeah, I also heard
a rumor that you may have wrapped at
1799
00:103:20.060 --> 00:103:26.300
one point in time. So maybe
you just like yeah, buster rhyme real
1800
00:103:26.340 --> 00:103:30.689
quick. All right, the rapping
days are gone. So so when did
1801
00:103:30.770 --> 00:103:35.050
the rapping days come to an end? Gosh, the rapping days came to
1802
00:103:35.130 --> 00:103:39.729
an end, say last year?
Yeah, just before I came here.
1803
00:103:41.409 --> 00:103:46.199
No, I we started rapping probably
round right around, probably ninety six,
1804
00:103:46.199 --> 00:103:48.920
hundred and ninety seven. That same
are, same time I came out.
1805
00:103:48.920 --> 00:103:51.960
Well, when I moved here I
was from cadillacs. I was like a
1806
00:103:53.000 --> 00:103:56.189
country kid. Only have every we
moved down here and was a big culture
1807
00:103:56.189 --> 00:103:58.909
change and I used to play guitar
and Hadlong hair and I was in a
1808
00:103:58.989 --> 00:104:00.989
band and not cool, you know. So I played in a band and
1809
00:104:00.869 --> 00:104:04.270
in high school and so I get
some just jammed on guitar and we moved
1810
00:104:04.350 --> 00:104:08.989
here and it was a totally different
scene and that's the long hair turned into
1811
00:104:08.989 --> 00:104:15.659
dreadlocks and I started rapping and they
cut my kn't name was chaos. Yes,
1812
00:104:15.420 --> 00:104:19.260
that's going to stay. Yeah,
we had we had a rap group
1813
00:104:19.899 --> 00:104:24.289
we were called wrath and actually that's
what I should have bring us. So
1814
00:104:24.449 --> 00:104:27.569
have flyers from we play. Oh
my yeah, you know that has to
1815
00:104:27.649 --> 00:104:30.250
happen. Brought one of those of
me. Were our first single. It
1816
00:104:30.329 --> 00:104:34.409
was our first thing, was blood
bath and it was supposed to come out
1817
00:104:34.409 --> 00:104:41.039
the summer and ninety seven. Yeah, and we recorded a bunch of things
1818
00:104:41.079 --> 00:104:43.520
and I'd have to dig in to
see her. I gonna find some tapes.
1819
00:104:43.960 --> 00:104:45.840
Oh, please do that. We
recorded. That's got to be in
1820
00:104:45.880 --> 00:104:50.960
the playlist. Oh my gosh.
We were Fred Song called Ecstasy. We
1821
00:104:51.079 --> 00:104:55.590
had a couple other ones. We
did. WHO's we? Is this we?
1822
00:104:55.590 --> 00:105:00.069
Anyone? We please be just as
now. Justin was never part of
1823
00:105:00.109 --> 00:105:03.510
it. There was a dam.
It was my buddy Nick Postma was one
1824
00:105:03.550 --> 00:105:09.340
of them, and then my brother
Ryan Levan and another buddy named Rick,
1825
00:105:09.859 --> 00:105:15.500
and Nick's name was Ruckus and my
brother Ryan's name was say. They called
1826
00:105:15.500 --> 00:105:20.100
him sereabus because he was like serebus
was, I thought, I think it
1827
00:105:20.180 --> 00:105:23.689
was one of the dogs of hell
or something like no, no saws,
1828
00:105:23.729 --> 00:105:28.010
and Ryan was just like a dude. He like he damn or give my
1829
00:105:28.050 --> 00:105:31.090
parents a heart attack like every other
day. He was just a terrorizer and
1830
00:105:31.250 --> 00:105:36.359
then cosh rick was I can't remember
what Rick's name was. Man, I
1831
00:105:36.399 --> 00:105:40.039
was a long time ago. But
yeah, we had all had outfits.
1832
00:105:40.720 --> 00:105:44.239
Who Different, different color. We
wore camouflage. We had all different color
1833
00:105:44.279 --> 00:105:47.479
camouflage outfits. It sounds about the
right time. I bore like that blue
1834
00:105:47.840 --> 00:105:53.829
camouflage. Yeah, that would work
in water, essentially. I don't know
1835
00:105:53.869 --> 00:105:56.510
where that really hated the ocean.
Yeah, I'm not sure where really came
1836
00:105:56.550 --> 00:106:01.789
from, but I wore blue camouflage. Nick War Green Camouflage. Could I'm
1837
00:106:01.829 --> 00:106:06.779
sure Ryan had like the orange and
black and yellow kind of camouflage. I
1838
00:106:08.100 --> 00:106:13.779
don't know where that what it came
from. Toll that's construction and instructure.
1839
00:106:15.060 --> 00:106:17.649
But we took a bunch of pictures
down by the railroad tracks here and green
1840
00:106:17.689 --> 00:106:20.050
rabbits by them train cars and stuff
like that. Oh yeah, so we
1841
00:106:20.090 --> 00:106:24.369
did a bunch of stuff down there
yet and but we thought we were like
1842
00:106:25.609 --> 00:106:27.810
rough and tough. I'm trying to
see if I can find a picture because
1843
00:106:27.810 --> 00:106:30.409
I know there's one on facebook.
Oh my God, I was crying.
1844
00:106:30.529 --> 00:106:33.520
But we thought we were rough and
tough. You know, all these little
1845
00:106:33.520 --> 00:106:38.159
white dudes and this thought we were
going to make some something big ourselves and
1846
00:106:38.479 --> 00:106:41.119
hey, eminem did it it.
Yeah, it turned out to be.
1847
00:106:41.239 --> 00:106:44.039
Yeah, that's few empar between son. You know, it turned out to
1848
00:106:44.119 --> 00:106:47.750
be just we'd get together on a
party and we'd have a microphone and I
1849
00:106:48.189 --> 00:106:51.590
we have some drinks and we'd started
like fruit. We did in strumental is
1850
00:106:51.630 --> 00:106:56.229
going. We start freestyle wrapping that
coal. I just want to hear best
1851
00:106:57.189 --> 00:107:00.350
so bad. It was. He's
like not, not today voice. That
1852
00:107:00.500 --> 00:107:05.460
was like twenty years ago. God
be so yeah, I know there's table.
1853
00:107:05.460 --> 00:107:06.899
I still have tapes. I know
I do. I did. You
1854
00:107:06.939 --> 00:107:13.260
can find us tapes or evidence of
the of the dreads. You would be
1855
00:107:13.380 --> 00:107:15.369
my best friend. Sorry, Paul. Yeah, how about? I'm not.
1856
00:107:15.689 --> 00:107:17.529
I'll get you guys, a flyer. I guess you one of the
1857
00:107:17.609 --> 00:107:20.210
old flyers this thing. I'll get
you a picture of me at the dress.
1858
00:107:23.130 --> 00:107:25.810
Chad, such a good guy.
We've had a mere for like two
1859
00:107:25.890 --> 00:107:28.890
hours now. Oh Yeah, there's
anything you want to wrap this up with,
1860
00:107:29.010 --> 00:107:32.319
Chad? Like a funny story?
Injury you've ever seen? Never had
1861
00:107:33.199 --> 00:107:38.319
every much of people at the gym. Anything you want? Worst injury I've
1862
00:107:38.319 --> 00:107:43.960
ever seen. We were doing wind
sprints and new kid just started. It
1863
00:107:44.079 --> 00:107:45.869
was like that day and we were
doing wind sprints. I was like all
1864
00:107:45.869 --> 00:107:49.590
right, dude, these mats are
really sticky. So when you slow down,
1865
00:107:49.710 --> 00:107:53.350
like slow them, but turn your
feet to the side when you slow
1866
00:107:53.430 --> 00:107:56.750
down. When he slowed down and
like kept going forward with his feet and
1867
00:107:56.909 --> 00:108:03.979
its big toebone popped out and broken. It was like sticking up right through
1868
00:108:04.140 --> 00:108:08.539
the top of his toe. And
Yeah, that was that was pretty gross.
1869
00:108:11.300 --> 00:108:15.770
I got nothing. That's where.
That's worse than my kneecap story for
1870
00:108:15.890 --> 00:108:18.250
my first day. Your knee cap, Storre is quite that whatever. Ye,
1871
00:108:18.529 --> 00:108:21.609
it's pretty rough. I broke my
ankle once. The guy shot in
1872
00:108:21.689 --> 00:108:25.890
for a takedown. I slipped on
some sweat, sweat and fell back and
1873
00:108:26.250 --> 00:108:30.760
snap my ankle. Bloody nose,
is normal things here. Yeah, yeah,
1874
00:108:30.840 --> 00:108:34.680
Teeth, oh whore. Once Im
we were we were in the racquetball
1875
00:108:34.720 --> 00:108:40.000
gym when it was fight club joy. We were sparing and there's this guy
1876
00:108:40.039 --> 00:108:41.909
who's a kickboxer. He's like Hey, man, I was I want to
1877
00:108:41.949 --> 00:108:44.510
get some sparn and training. And
he wasn't even really didn't even sign up
1878
00:108:44.510 --> 00:108:45.510
for the gym. He was like
this want to spar right, yes,
1879
00:108:45.630 --> 00:108:48.270
he was flying on the Florida and
like two or three weeks to do this
1880
00:108:48.590 --> 00:108:53.310
kickboxing tournament you signed up for.
So everybody's AD. You got spar why?
1881
00:108:53.350 --> 00:108:56.220
Because Rory was like phenomens like black
Belton, like some kind of karate
1882
00:108:56.260 --> 00:109:00.300
or something like these crazy legs and
they start sparring and Horey was short of
1883
00:109:00.380 --> 00:109:04.420
this dude, probably six to he
actually trains downtown with Dan and all those
1884
00:109:04.460 --> 00:109:06.939
guys. Last I knew. Oh, really, really, yeah, and
1885
00:109:09.659 --> 00:109:14.689
whore had these wicked kicks like this
dudes kicks were they come out of nowhere.
1886
00:109:15.130 --> 00:109:16.930
And this dude came in and through
something horrey. It kind of ducked
1887
00:109:16.970 --> 00:109:19.890
under and did like kind of came
up with his leg like straight up like
1888
00:109:19.970 --> 00:109:24.800
this, right on this dudes nose. This d stiff us dus nose was
1889
00:109:24.880 --> 00:109:30.960
touching this dude. It was nasty
and yeah, bad. I'm rob walking
1890
00:109:30.960 --> 00:109:33.560
up him, grabs his nose,
pulls it back straight and he was like
1891
00:109:33.560 --> 00:109:36.119
yeah, you're not doing that kickboxing
match. You got here in three weeks.
1892
00:109:36.199 --> 00:109:43.710
Nasty. Yeah, that's that's that's
similar to up my engineer did to
1893
00:109:43.789 --> 00:109:47.430
me. We've already told that stores
roll. I'm just saying it. It
1894
00:109:47.550 --> 00:109:53.579
sucks when somebody's gotta like pull your
nose off, your cheek back and imagine.
1895
00:109:54.060 --> 00:109:57.420
No, Hu, that's but try
the worst injuries, the worst things
1896
00:109:57.460 --> 00:109:59.340
are ever seen. I mean,
oh well, wait, no, Oh
1897
00:109:59.460 --> 00:110:02.659
God, neither none of you guys
were there. So curler came up curling
1898
00:110:02.699 --> 00:110:06.329
about me for this. We were
at we were out Mosquegan and we were
1899
00:110:06.329 --> 00:110:09.770
at a seminar. Curly came up
for a summer because Rob's when rob was
1900
00:110:09.810 --> 00:110:13.489
affiliated with him either, and we
were in a rack about another racketball court.
1901
00:110:13.529 --> 00:110:15.649
For some reason Robin these racketball courts. I don't know why. It's
1902
00:110:15.689 --> 00:110:18.289
got a good echo too. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. You didn't
1903
00:110:18.289 --> 00:110:20.600
even have to pay attention. You
can hear from any direction when further was
1904
00:110:20.680 --> 00:110:27.119
talking. But so we got to
start rolling at the end and I don't
1905
00:110:27.119 --> 00:110:29.920
remember why I was rolling. The
mcgue MC gwyn twins were there, a
1906
00:110:29.920 --> 00:110:32.199
couple guys from curler school, Victor. My thing might have been up,
1907
00:110:32.640 --> 00:110:35.670
and I don't know if you guys
ever got a chance to meet cody.
1908
00:110:35.869 --> 00:110:39.310
He was, as he's in my
buddy. Yes, became a state police
1909
00:110:39.590 --> 00:110:43.829
officer. H So cody and Scott, buddy, Scott we're rolling together and
1910
00:110:43.949 --> 00:110:46.350
Scott CA used to come up once
in a while. Well, cody's two
1911
00:110:46.350 --> 00:110:51.300
hundred pounds or so thick. Dude. Scott goes in the turtle position for
1912
00:110:51.460 --> 00:110:57.180
some reason and cody starts to take
us back. Well, I think Scot
1913
00:110:57.220 --> 00:110:59.140
I'm rolling close to them. I'm
not sure it really it cas how it
1914
00:110:59.180 --> 00:111:01.939
happened, but I believe Scott based
out with his hand and try to flip
1915
00:111:02.060 --> 00:111:05.569
cody over his back. And when
he flipped cody over his back, cody's
1916
00:111:06.010 --> 00:111:12.130
shoulder came down right on his forearm
snapped his form right, right in half,
1917
00:111:12.289 --> 00:111:15.170
probably maybe a foot half away from
my ear. That's all. What.
1918
00:111:15.289 --> 00:111:16.529
So that sounded good. Oh,
I sound like you took a Tu
1919
00:111:16.609 --> 00:111:21.760
by far and smacked against a sement
floor. It was nasty. Yeah,
1920
00:111:23.720 --> 00:111:26.800
Hey, I just barm was all
bent. So me being at, you
1921
00:111:26.880 --> 00:111:30.119
know, ex military, I went
through all these like combat lights. Yeah,
1922
00:111:30.720 --> 00:111:32.109
all right, dude, hang on, and I took my belt off
1923
00:111:32.189 --> 00:111:34.310
and wrapped my belt around and kept
it all straight. We put a piece
1924
00:111:34.310 --> 00:111:36.590
of wood in there and straighten it
out and I put it away and stuff
1925
00:111:36.590 --> 00:111:40.670
like. He's still got my old
belt. Yeah, I want that,
1926
00:111:40.789 --> 00:111:45.670
BA, but they took him to
the hospital and it was funny because he
1927
00:111:45.750 --> 00:111:49.460
didn't want to go to the hospital
here in Mysquegan and he was from Kalamazoo.
1928
00:111:50.020 --> 00:111:53.659
So He's ended up driving back with
a nate all the way from a
1929
00:111:53.699 --> 00:111:56.939
skigin down to Kalamazoo. Would probably, I don't know, two hour drive
1930
00:111:57.020 --> 00:112:00.460
with a brow busted arm. Just
about you, prof that'll be fine,
1931
00:112:00.539 --> 00:112:01.890
guys. Yeah, that was it. That was pretty gross and over the
1932
00:112:01.890 --> 00:112:08.010
whiskey. Yeah, absolutely, Jesus. Yeah, I don't know. I
1933
00:112:08.050 --> 00:112:12.770
don't know. I got Shin spots
when up, broke fingers, broke toes.
1934
00:112:12.810 --> 00:112:15.439
That that's just the normal cauliflower here. No teeth through your lip.
1935
00:112:15.680 --> 00:112:18.079
Oh Yeah, you know, saw
that that I have. That's just the
1936
00:112:18.199 --> 00:112:23.479
normal stuff. But those those fleay
white belt elbows in your face or always
1937
00:112:23.520 --> 00:112:28.279
hood. Oh Yeah, oh my
gosh, but I didn't understand that at
1938
00:112:28.279 --> 00:112:31.909
all, like what, are not
trying to be freaking out? Totally was
1939
00:112:32.750 --> 00:112:35.510
until now, and now we get
some new guys in like punch me square
1940
00:112:35.590 --> 00:112:40.229
in the face. Way, I
still check people's Chins on my knees here
1941
00:112:40.270 --> 00:112:42.350
and there. Good. Oh,
yeah, I checked his head with my
1942
00:112:42.390 --> 00:112:44.819
knee. You. Yeah, I
just try to check your nuts. With
1943
00:112:44.819 --> 00:112:48.260
whom ideas that you? They got? No, no, it wasn't me.
1944
00:112:48.340 --> 00:112:50.539
This time. I'm like, Hey, it wasn't me. Yeah,
1945
00:112:50.619 --> 00:112:53.819
US, yeah, I see,
not wearing a cup. This you are
1946
00:112:53.859 --> 00:112:56.500
writhing in pain a little. This
doesn't play, it doesn't pan out something.
1947
00:112:56.619 --> 00:112:59.210
Yeah, I don't know. Sometimes
you get hit, but yeah,
1948
00:112:59.210 --> 00:113:00.609
I don't. I don't wear a
cup either. I just I tried it.
1949
00:113:00.770 --> 00:113:03.090
Couldn't do it. I had head
one of those old jacks draps,
1950
00:113:03.130 --> 00:113:05.850
you with the this jockstrapped, you
know, the old schools. Trying to
1951
00:113:05.890 --> 00:113:10.010
sell me on your freaking jocks wrapping, and yes, I am. Yeah,
1952
00:113:10.130 --> 00:113:12.880
so. Well, the old one
sucked because they just like the Steel
1953
00:113:12.920 --> 00:113:15.800
Cup ones. He's talking about ring
the string. The strings look like a
1954
00:113:15.880 --> 00:113:17.119
Thong. Yeah, kind of.
Oh, yeah, well, my ball
1955
00:113:17.199 --> 00:113:20.840
got caught in between my cup and
my leg as I got it rolled over.
1956
00:113:21.640 --> 00:113:25.720
So I didn't want that to happen
again. So I'll the very next
1957
00:113:25.720 --> 00:113:29.390
day while one of those diamond mm
makeups for like a hundred dollar, natural
1958
00:113:29.430 --> 00:113:31.869
spo never had a problem since.
No, great. Yeah, well,
1959
00:113:31.949 --> 00:113:34.430
CORLA Kred the corps want to kind
of talking about of coups. He's not
1960
00:113:34.510 --> 00:113:38.989
talking me out of Shit, because
you figure out the end of the day,
1961
00:113:38.989 --> 00:113:40.869
if you tried to arm bar,
a lot of people and I wear
1962
00:113:40.909 --> 00:113:43.380
cups. They they rely on their
cups. Yeah, have that pivot point
1963
00:113:43.460 --> 00:113:45.140
Yep with the arm. Well,
if you rely on on that, you're
1964
00:113:45.140 --> 00:113:47.619
really not pinching properly with your leg. Yeah, you know I mean.
1965
00:113:47.659 --> 00:113:50.939
And so I stopped wearing a cup
half a reason because of that. It's
1966
00:113:51.020 --> 00:113:54.420
like I wanted. I'd rather better
technique with my armbars. I mess you,
1967
00:113:54.500 --> 00:113:58.810
okay with that. Yeah, he's
also almost tapped me with his cup.
1968
00:113:58.970 --> 00:114:00.329
What I was yell, Pinch,
what I do something, and was
1969
00:114:00.609 --> 00:114:02.689
the hell you doing? What I
do with kid, because I go north
1970
00:114:02.729 --> 00:114:04.930
South and then I take up and, by Banging my cup up, agains
1971
00:114:04.970 --> 00:114:08.250
his forehead until he taps out.
That's my shit right. Yeah, guess
1972
00:114:08.250 --> 00:114:13.640
what, it's a really quick fucking
time right now. Definitely, absolutely so.
1973
00:114:14.039 --> 00:114:15.000
I just want to thank you for
coming on. Man, they know
1974
00:114:15.159 --> 00:114:18.239
it's awesome having thanks for invite me
a great interview. I appreciate that.
1975
00:114:18.359 --> 00:114:24.909
It really was so much actually useful
informations coming up our PODCAST. Done usually
1976
00:114:24.909 --> 00:114:27.510
happen. Ya, you get a
white bell blue belt trying to talk to
1977
00:114:27.510 --> 00:114:30.350
you, to us like what kind
of note we're talking about? Now?
1978
00:114:30.430 --> 00:114:31.510
We got me that actually does.
So, yeah, it's great. I
1979
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hope. I hope somebody out a
little bit. You know. Hell,
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yeah, I feel better about myself. No real reason. Yeah, my
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mom, my mom is gonna love
this podcast. Are So little as weather
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people, so little swearing. I
get in trouble for swearing by his mother.
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Oh yeah, yeah, that's right. I don't know. I kind
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of got kind of got a bite
the lip more with all the kids classes
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that teach. Now having the on
your kids classes gotten, oh my gosh,
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it's freaking I'm not kidding. It's
a hurdle cattle when they're running.
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That's crazy. It's gotta be like
hurting cats. After a while it's like
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what do you do with like thirty
five kids? Like it's a lot.
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It's a lot and it's awesome.
You don't want to. And you know
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what, I got that award.
They gave me a but you guys gave
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me the things that. Yeah,
it's from all you guys do and you
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know, it's well well done.
I really appreciate you all a lot of
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I've never gotten like that before.
So so. So what we're talking about
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is the whole school got together and
well, your Buddy Travis and his family
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was the one that kind of spearheaded
it, which was awesome because we all
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wanted to do something like that and
gave him award for being just Chad.
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Dude, what you did and doing
what you do and teaching our kids and
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directing our family. You sacrifice a
lot. How do yes, you do.
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We under stand that. Like,
yeah, fulltime job, you got
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a wife, you got three kids
and then you go when you learn from
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curler down in Indiana and you come
back up to grand rapid just you know,
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it's a lot of time out of
your life to do to teach and
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give us an environment that we can
learn this awesome art. So yeah,
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we all appreciate it. So thank
you. So that's what he's sorry about.
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We gave he got an award.
It's because name matched on it.
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It's really pretty, it's nice and
the gym. Yes, and yeah,
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we got the best coach in the
world. So suck it. Thanks you
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guys. Yeah, I guess the
shot. Throw it out there. If
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you ever done e'l Card Indiana swing
by coral gracis school or go to coral
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Gracis, just docom or, if
you're in grand rapids are he hit up
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a Blacklandag just tocom where at seven
hundred and Sixty Street, Byron Center.
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Yeah, and we're in the black
line studios. You didn't choose that,
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but we did, so we're good, great, and you ever want to
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know anything about the classes there,
you can let Chad know, but,
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more importantly, you can let me
Paul know. The Dad's the DAD's grabbling,
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Dad'scom there. You Go, come
see us and Chad will be back.
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He doesn't really have a fucking choice. We're doing this shit, so
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we'll bring some rap music next time. Yes, God, I'll cry.
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So all right, everybody's dead.
DIG It is dead. BA
