starring McKenzie Mae | Going Deeper interview

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Thank you. guest for the evening you know exactly where
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you can find her at real Mackenzie May M-A-E is
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subscribe all that but most importantly support the content creators
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follow across all social media payday rolls around you know
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explore a little more into what other sites they're on
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and such like that ladies and gentlemen my guest Mackenzie
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May Mackenzie thanks so much for coming on with me
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today Hello.
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Thank you for that amazing shout out and thank you
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for having me here. Yes, y'all go check it out.
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You just got to search the name. That's all you
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got to do.
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So I don't I don't. I always find it creepy
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when I find interviews and they're like, let's delve into
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your childhood. And I go, no, no, no, no, no.
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That's not what the topic is here. But right.
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That's a little that's a little far back.
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Sure.
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Right. I do. I do like to try and build.
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Who your personality is and how you got to where
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you are in the industry. So if you don't mind,
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could I ask Mackenzie, what were you like prior to
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getting into the adult entertainment industry? What was your personality?
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What were you like? Go ahead.
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I would say still pretty outgoing.
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Like I was curious about anything that had to do
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with the adult industry. I just didn't really know that
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it was an option. It's not something they tell you
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on career day that you can do. You know what
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I mean?
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So I was actually just kind.
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Of going about like my dog training, dog competitions, all
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that good stuff. I would say I grew up in
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a pretty conservative area, so I kind of kept my
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thoughts to myself. But whenever I did get involved with someone,
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I always wanted.
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To kind of push the boundaries a little bit.
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Further than vanilla than what they would like. And I
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usually was more of an outlier in that case. So
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it wasn't a very shocking transition when I did kind
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of do the full jump into the adult industry. It
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just made sense. So I definitely still have like those
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sexual tendencies.
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They were just more.
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Hidden and like less, I would say, accepted in the
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area I was in. I grew up in a town
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of like 200 people. So it's just like word spreads.
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Word spreads really easily. Everyone's got an opinion. Everyone's got
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a great, big, strong opinion. So when I moved out
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to the city, it was just a little bit easier
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to escape that noise. Okay. All right.
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That's fair.
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Were you you seem like and maybe I'm wrong and
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I've always been wrong on every one of these with
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every girl I've ever interviewed. Are you an extrovert?
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I would say it's so hard because I've been through
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phases where I was definitely very introverted. But when you
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put me with other people, I'm definitely an extrovert. So
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I like to say I go off of vibes. So
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if someone is giving me a very extrovert energy and
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we're bouncing off of each other like that, I'm going
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to amp up. If you're kind of close off towards me,
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you don't really seem like you want to talk. I'm
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going to match that energy to you. OK, if you
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don't want to talk, that's OK. It's OK. We don't
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have to. I'll respect that. So but but I can
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get going. I can be pretty chaotic in my energy
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and my personality sometimes if people open the doors to that.
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I'm actually I'm blown away by how many performers I
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talk to who I like. I've seen you do this already.
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seven guy gangbang over here and they're like i'm a
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total introvert i'm.
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Just yes so many so many just like want to
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stay on their couch and i think it is just
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because we're going out and doing all this stuff all
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the time that it's like when we do have an
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off day it's like oh man my couch my couch,
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my pets, my bed. Because, you know, we get up
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at the crack of dawn, we get the makeup on,
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we get rolling onto set. I mean, it is a
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long day of physical labor. So I don't blame them
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to not really want that in their personal life all
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the time.
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Sure, sure. I totally get that. I just, it's always,
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it's always amazing to me because I don't know if
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it's a former face they have to put on then
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to be able to do it is it like this
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is work i'm putting on my work face.
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You know a hundred percent i like to say that
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i have like my customer service voice and like very
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like a customer service face like when i'm filming customs
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it's like and then like right at the end of
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a video that i edit out every single time of
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course it's like bye thank you for ordering a custom
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and then my face just goes oh oh man let
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me turn this off let me go do this and
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it's so fun because that's just reality how it is
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taking content um and same thing i would say that
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yeah we do have scenes that we enjoy and like
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yeah most of us love sex and you know we
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wouldn't be there if we didn't in some capacity but
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yes it is a job at the end of the
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day it is a job and we do a lot
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of times become mattress actresses and put on a little
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bit more of a performance than what we normally would
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I would say when it comes to mine, I'm naturally
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pretty exuberant on and off the screen. So like when
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people like actually have like real interactions with me, they're like, oh,
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you're faking. I'm like, no, I'm not. I'm one of
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the few.
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I'm one of the few.
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Crazy ones that yes, normally people heighten stuff up for
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the adult industry and videos and filming.
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I think that's fair if you watched a whole bunch
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of girls just kind of going through the motions. Yeah.
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You know, what is it? I mean, you know what
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I mean? Or like a movie. You got to have
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like a good climax in there somewhere. You got to
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you got to throw off the levels. Can't be the
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same throughout the whole video. That's pretty boring.
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Right.
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Right.
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So what was your first step out of vanilla life
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into the adult entertainment industry? Was it only fans? Was it,
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you know, Snapchat, whatever it was, camming? When do you
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go like, I just can't do vanilla shit anymore? And
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was it, let me ask this too, was it the money?
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Was it like you were just excited by a creative project?
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What was your move in?
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So, once again, didn't even think that this was something
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that I could profit off of. Didn't even really realize
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because no one in our area talked about OnlyFans and
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AV's paid platforms. I didn't really.
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know about it.
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Like I'd heard of it, but I didn't know enough
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about it to want to get into it. So the
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day that I ran into someone who was a popular
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OnlyFans creator and she kind of opened up my eyes
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to it, it was.
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More of like a side gig for cash. Like, oh yeah,
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I'll do this because it sounds.
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Like a lot of fun and it'll pay a couple
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extra bills. Awesome. And then it just slowly developed into... Oh, well,
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this is nice because I worked for myself before. I
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ran my own dog training company. So it was very solo. Well,
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this was really nice because I could go out and
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meet people. So now I actually had co-workers for once.
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You know, it wasn't just me and my four walls.
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You know, I can still do that with my solo content.
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But this is an easier way for me to go
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out and actually make friends and be social, which I
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thrive off of like crazy because like we talked about
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before with the vibes and everything.
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Once I meet people with that, I just.
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Go up.
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You know, I've done so many interviews recently with performers
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who who have said more or less like I couldn't
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have a boss. I didn't want to have a boss
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is what it was. But but you were there.
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I never wanted one in general. I had been working
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for myself. I want to say three years prior to
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joining the industry. And I've been in the industry as
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a whole now for a little over an additional three years.
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So I've been working for myself for six years. And yeah,
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I couldn't go back to the same rigmarole, the same
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nine to five, having to report to someone. Granted, you
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have to have more discipline being in the other boat.
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But I think it's definitely more worth it because the success,
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I feel like gets capped out when you're working for
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someone else versus when you're working for yourself. There is
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no limit to success. You can always push it further.
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You can always find more streams of income. You can
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always find a way to make things better.
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I love that. I really do. And I I normally
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do the active listening thing where I go. Mm hmm. Yeah.
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You are so straightforward, though. I'm like, shut up. We'll
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get clips out of this. But but and I love it.
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I love it. But my point more is this, where
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a lot of the performers I've talked to recently, it
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was like, I can't have a boss anymore. I need
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to move out. You essentially didn't. You were your boss. The,
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you know, people who would come in and have their
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dogs trained and whatever else. Those are kind of your boss.
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So if you already have something successful to an extent,
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maybe it was, you know, the point of it was
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getting in more money. If you have something successful to
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an extent. And you start doing this side gig, was
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there a point when you start going forward? fuck, I
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got to stop training these dogs because I'm leaving money
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on the table. And then what did that feel like?
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That, oh my gosh, it was disappointing because this dog
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training is like my passion and everything. But also with
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that being my passion and now turning that into a job, well,
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now I started having to rely on money and now
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I'm forcing myself to do dog training. Well, now I
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have to train dogs because I have to pay these bills.
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So it became a job. It became more of a
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chore to train these dogs where, you know, I kind
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of wanted it to be back to a passion project where, oh,
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you know, I want to train this competition dog because
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I have the free time to do it. So being
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able to split up that time between the adult industry
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and still doing dog training.
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Is really nice.
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So pretty much to be blind, if I get sick
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of one, I just lean towards the other. If I
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get sick of the other one, then I lean towards
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that one. You know, I never have burnout because I
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have multiple things that I can jump to at all times.
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And then once again, you know, a millionaire doesn't have
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just one stream of income. If you want to be
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able to build up your money, you need to be
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able to have multiple streams of income that are in
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multiple different varieties.
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You know, not just adult industry.
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You also have to find your safe for work stuff
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too that you can promote off of your name.
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Let me ask, and if this is too personal, please
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don't comment. I totally get it. Did you... I know
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I just started off by saying I don't want to
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talk about your childhood. No worries at all. I do
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want to ask this. I do want to ask this.
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Did you grow up, and don't take offense to this, please.
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Did you grow up broke or with... With a structure
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of business, because I always see it one of two ways.
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Someone who grew up broke is like, I got to achieve.
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I got to crawl out of this. I got to
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do with that. Or if you had a good structure
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or you liked business when you were young, this just
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comes naturally to you. Which of those two kind of
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was it?
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So I'm going to say it's kind of wavering on
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the line of both. So this is something that I've
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already put out there. I'm very comfortable already doing this.
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You know, we can bring up family. My family's fully
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aware of what I do. I'm very comfortable talking about that.
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So I grew up on a dairy farm in Iowa.
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I grew up from a family of business owners. So
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my mom ran her own business. My sister actually runs
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her own business. My dad has a family farm. I
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just grew up around it. So it just kind of
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came naturally to me and I understood, you know, what
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needed to be done to keep pushing forward and, you know,
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business management skills. I also took classes outside of school
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for that, too. So I do have a little bit
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of further education on that. When it comes to farming,
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there is a lot of money in farming. However, any
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farmers listening will know, well, yeah, farmers are rich, but
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all that money's tied up. That money's tied up in land.
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That money's tied up in machinery. You know, you might
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have 10 different combines or tractors that are, you know,
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200K to 500, 600K each, but that's not money in
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your bank account. Right. That's sitting there on the land.
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All that land or so much money, you know, cattle,
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2K a cattle or a cow or whatever, you know,
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anything like that, like that's all money. So technically you're rich,
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but you're rich in assets. So we didn't get to
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go on family vacations. We didn't get to go do this,
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go do that. We didn't get to go have, you know,
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all these shopping sprees.
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We didn't live rich.
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So being able to kind of treat myself to that
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now is very nice and very much what I've grinded for.
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But also.
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You know what I mean?
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Like we had it, but we also were managing it well.
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So it's kind of bringing that on further into my
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life too. But also I do spoil myself with the
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vacations because I don't have a farm to run. That's
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the thing. I can hire a dog sitter for my dogs.
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We can't hire a cow sitter for hundreds of cattle. Okay.
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It just doesn't work that way.
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No, that's a fair point. And I never even considered
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farmers to be quote unquote rich, but you're right. It
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seems like if they did have a lot of money,
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it would just be tied up in so many other things.
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A hundred percent.
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So let me ask you, and this is going really
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off track, then we'll dive into the content. Are you
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good now? And I understand you're going to do your
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little splurges and this and that. Of course.
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Totally.
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Are you good with managing money now? Like very good
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with it. Do you have a person you trust? Do
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you do it yourself? Is it like.
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I personally do it myself.
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However, I am looking more into investment stuff and into
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real estate to start tying money up myself. Right now,
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I am just kind of early on into it. So
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I separate the money, but I haven't really been doing
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anything further with that. So now the next step is, okay,
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now that we have this money, how can we put
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it somewhere so it can passively grow on its own? Okay.
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All right. Let me ask, is there anything you've seen...
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Where a performer could invest in the industry itself. I
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don't even know. Is there a way to do that?
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What what would be the way of doing that? Is
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that like becoming an agent almost or a manager almost
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or I don't know. It may not be possible.
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You could. I would say the one that you're seeing
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the most often right now is people separating off and
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making their own production companies is the most common one
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that you see. So like, OK, instead of selling off
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my content to another company, let me become the company myself. Or,
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you know, they're going off of these paid platforms that
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take 20 or 40 percent from you and they're making
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their own platforms, coding up their own things so that
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they can sell the content directly.
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Without a percentage cut.
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So that's kind of the next step that people have
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been doing lately. Talent agencies, not so much. What's kind
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of developed there is already developed. Some do. Managers, maybe
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like social media management and like chatters, but... most I
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think would find money doing the production companies versus that. Okay.
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Okay. So, all right. That makes sense. And that kind
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of is just putting another bet on yourself in a way. Yeah. Yeah.
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I think that's great. All right. So again, we're going
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to dive into the content, but let me ask this.
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What was the first thing that you did either shoot
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wise or putting out wise that got attention that you went, Oh, this,
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this is, this could be a career too. This is
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no longer just Side gig, make a little bit of cash.
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What is the first thing you hit? Or was it
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a milestone? Was it something, you know, you hit a
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number on Twitter or OF or something like that? What
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was it?
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I would say it was when I released my first
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anal video. It was my first ever mainstream video that
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was an anal video. And that shot so many fans
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over to my page. And seeing the fan conversion with it,
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it just clicked. Because when you're a creator, you can't
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just be an overall creator.
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You need to find a niche. You need to find
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your people that you can promote to.
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And once you zero in on that, it becomes a
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lot easier to filter out fans to your page. So
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once I just kind of saw that little tweak in
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fan base numbers when I started doing anal, I just
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knew that I needed to push in forward more with that.
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So once I started accelerating, the numbers just went up.
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So now my page is primarily an anal page. That's
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what people reach out to me to work with as
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just because that's becoming what.
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I'm known for.
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Another thing with that would also be like the squirting,
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because now I'm having like directors reach out to me
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because they know that I can squirt. They know that
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I'm reliable on doing that on camera so that I'm
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getting hired out for that.
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Were these two skills you picked up, neither of which
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I possess, by the way, the ability to do anal
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or squirt. Were those skills you picked up prior to
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the industry or did you have to learn them? And
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if you did know them coming in, did you? Speak
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to anyone or talk to anyone about ways of improving.
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Your ability to do those two things. Was there any
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growth in those things?
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For sure growth. There's always growth. You know, the more
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you do anything, there's going to be growth. I would
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say like stretching wise and size wise when it comes
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to anal is like the growth that I had there.
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Always have been.
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Into anal, like pre-industry, except couldn't find a ton of.
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People that wanted to do it. Once again, it was.
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you know, just right outside of that line of vanilla
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for people that I was around where it was just like, oh,
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I want to do this. But yes, no one else
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really wants to. So I guess I'll just put it
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on the.
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Back burner for now.
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And then the squirting, definitely more of a learning thing
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because it was just more or less accidentally happening pre-industry.
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And it's like, Oh, I don't know what just happened there,
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but I guess that just happened versus, okay, now I
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have certain toys. I'm like experimenting what positions, what angles
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can I know will force it versus what do I
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need to do lifestyle wise, like hydration wise to be
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able to get a good squirting scene. There's definitely a
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lot of different things that you can tweak going that route.
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I say this every episode, but I love that the
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outside stigma is there. Beautiful Mackenzie Mae wakes up around noon.
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She goes to shoot her porn scene. It takes about
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an hour. She gets paid $ 50, 000. She comes home and
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never has to do anything else again. Could you imagine?
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I have to tell these people, the listeners who might
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think that, not my listeners, but people will comment and
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say stuff like that. It's like... No, these girls traded
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an eight hour day for like a 16 hour day. Like, no, literally. Right. Right.
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Literally, we're on set, especially if you're a female, because
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you have to go on usually for hair and makeup.
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And then you have to weigh the larger the set,
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the longer you're there. If there's dialogue, the most dialogue
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I've been handed. And this was handed to me a
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few days before filming was a 15 page script. That
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you're supposed to memorize before the scene. So there's a
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lot more to it than just having sex. And a
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lot of times once you do get to the sex,
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in hours at minimum, most of the.
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Time it is stop and go.
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We do have some gonzo scenes where it's very nice
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that we can just kind of take the scene in
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our own hands and fly right through. But most of
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the time it's like, okay, we need 10 minutes doing
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this and then we're going to take stills. Then we're
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going to need 10 minutes doing this and then we're
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going to take stills here. So it's a lot of
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back and forth and to the point where it takes
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usually about maybe two hours, three hours to do the
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actual sex versus, you know, a couple more hours for dialogue.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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All right.
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All right.
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I want to jump into a couple scenes here. So
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I want to get your memories on what it was
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shooting these scenes. I'll show a screenshot and I'll show
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as much to the audience as I can without getting
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this episode banned. So it'll probably be like a little
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corner off to the side. No worries. The first one
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I have here comes from. Backroom casting couch. Okay.
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Yes.
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Kind of the standard now where we're introduced to a
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lot of newer girls. Like there are smaller sites that
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also introduce a lot of new performers, but it almost
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seems like backroom. is the mainstream quote unquote amateur. Um,
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Did you know what back backroom casting house was before
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you went on to it and signed up for it? Like, obviously,
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I'm not I'm not the guy who's like, so was
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it surprising when they get that aspect? But how much
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are you told in advance? Is it detailed just like
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any other porn shoot in that sense? As much as
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you can say.
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I would say that, yeah, they tell you what channels
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you're going to be on. You know what type of
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shoots that you're going to do when you show up.
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They are a company that does focus on first-timers exclusively.
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So they want to see everyone's first-time experience for whatever
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site that they're filming, their mill for their anal category,
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their interracial one.
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I will say.
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for their interracial one, the BBC surprise.
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They do want it to be a surprise.
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I did not get to meet my talent beforehand at all.
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They wanted it to be on camera. Everything, like, true, like,
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first reaction. So that was pretty good, but... Offhand, no,
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I didn't really know that like I was going to
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be going to the big black leather couch until I
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was there and then I saw it because that's like
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one of those pictures that you see where you're like, oh,
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that's classic porn.
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It's a meme at this point, right? It's a meme.
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It's literally a meme and the black couch that and
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then also like the small innocent girl with like a
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big group of like men around her. Like those are
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like the two like big meme moments to like see.
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That was just like, oh shit, I'm here.
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Yeah.
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I'm here right now, I guess.
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Yeah, I always wonder what You thought of it going
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into that. And then my other question is not not
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necessarily for you here, but what's the bang bus smell like? Like,
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I always wonder those two. Oh, my gosh.
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I actually haven't been on the bang bus yet.
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And I don't want to be.
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Oh, because you don't because you're terrified of the high
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speed collision that could happen from it or you don't
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want to smell.
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Oh, here's something that a lot of people don't think of.
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So when filming porn, depending on how the site is,
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sometimes we cut all AC off. everything because you know
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ACs when they kick on some houses got like a
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little like ring or like hum to it well it'll
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pick up that in audio so we can't a lot
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of times they'll end up either cutting off AC or
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if they have the equipment that can you know they
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can just block it off they'll just do a room
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check and just do it that way um but I've
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heard that van is so unbelievably hot and then it's
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also shot out of like Miami yeah I was gonna
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say so it's even more hot And I film in
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Miami enough where it's just like the cameras start going
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out because of the heat. Like now you're really having
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to like push it back even more. You're sweating your
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makeup off everywhere.
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So it's multiple retouches.
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You know what? I'm good. That's one that I am.
490
00:22:46.650 --> 00:22:48.049
Not missing out on.
491
00:22:48.549 --> 00:22:51.420
I have done a couple of things for Bang now,
492
00:22:51.930 --> 00:22:56.220
but the Bang must... Oh, no. And I bet it
493
00:22:56.240 --> 00:22:59.980
does snow. I bet it does snow. How many times?
494
00:23:00.019 --> 00:23:03.099
They have so many scenes. You can't clean up that
495
00:23:03.140 --> 00:23:03.619
much cum.
496
00:23:05.789 --> 00:23:06.390
You can't.
497
00:23:07.490 --> 00:23:09.390
I would agree with you fully. Now, if they ask me,
498
00:23:09.410 --> 00:23:11.450
would you like to sit in here with us? I go, yeah, sure.
499
00:23:11.529 --> 00:23:13.589
And it would be horrendous. I agree. Why can't we
500
00:23:13.630 --> 00:23:17.009
pick a cooler place to shoot that? You're right. Bang, bro.
501
00:23:17.289 --> 00:23:21.059
Bang bus out of Wisconsin. You know, Alaska. I don't know.
502
00:23:21.279 --> 00:23:23.099
Literally anywhere else.
503
00:23:23.819 --> 00:23:26.119
Literally any other state.
504
00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:29.559
Any other state. Or, you know, I lived in Tampa
505
00:23:29.579 --> 00:23:30.460
for a few years.
506
00:23:30.500 --> 00:23:31.849
That's where I started the industry.
507
00:23:32.049 --> 00:23:35.500
Let's just move it up to Tampa. It really... Isn't
508
00:23:35.559 --> 00:23:39.190
it like the three, four hour drive is such a
509
00:23:39.289 --> 00:23:43.079
massive environmental change is not even funny. Like I'm talking
510
00:23:43.279 --> 00:23:46.940
massive heat difference and humidity difference. Massive.
511
00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:48.519
It's two totally different states.
512
00:23:48.539 --> 00:23:49.769
Yeah.
513
00:23:50.150 --> 00:23:53.380
Bang bus, this is something we need to consider going forward. Okay.
514
00:23:53.700 --> 00:23:54.359
I have friends.
515
00:23:54.980 --> 00:23:55.460
You know what?
516
00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:56.380
Let me bring this up.
517
00:23:56.559 --> 00:23:59.500
Like, I'll film for you guys, but you guys got
518
00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:03.140
to drive the bus up north. Like, I'm done. I'm done.
519
00:24:03.200 --> 00:24:06.500
Someone's got to deliver the bus to me because... Yeah,
520
00:24:06.539 --> 00:24:09.930
it would be cute to have, like, my little Instagram photos, like, right?
521
00:24:09.950 --> 00:24:11.529
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
522
00:24:11.990 --> 00:24:12.819
But, like....
523
00:24:14.579 --> 00:24:18.549
I'm bringing my own waterproof blanket in there. We're resetting
524
00:24:18.589 --> 00:24:22.309
this shit up. The AC's got to be going.
525
00:24:22.390 --> 00:24:23.190
I don't know.
526
00:24:23.210 --> 00:24:25.970
I think there's too many stipulations where it's just like,
527
00:24:26.190 --> 00:24:27.170
I'm not the right fit.
528
00:24:28.490 --> 00:24:32.160
Hey, fair. You got to assess the situation fully and
529
00:24:32.180 --> 00:24:36.180
make the right decision, right? Um, the second scene I
530
00:24:36.220 --> 00:24:40.460
have for me here is from shoplifter. Okay, fine. Now
531
00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:43.059
you brought something up earlier with the script. And that
532
00:24:43.099 --> 00:24:45.079
was kind of my question to you. Do you like
533
00:24:45.140 --> 00:24:47.680
the acting aspect of the job? Or do you prefer
534
00:24:47.700 --> 00:24:49.210
to like, just get right into it?
535
00:24:49.220 --> 00:24:53.819
I love acting, but I like improv acting way more.
536
00:24:53.900 --> 00:24:56.200
I like it when they're like, this is a general
537
00:24:56.289 --> 00:24:58.609
outline of the story. And like, if they need to
538
00:24:58.650 --> 00:25:00.769
give me more info, they're like, yeah, we love that.
539
00:25:00.789 --> 00:25:02.950
But like, we kind of wish you hit this note more.
540
00:25:03.529 --> 00:25:06.609
Which honestly, usually we don't. Usually the directors and improv
541
00:25:06.650 --> 00:25:09.490
scenes are really good about just letting you go with it.
542
00:25:10.230 --> 00:25:14.039
And I'm a very dramatic, like once again, outgoing person.
543
00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:16.799
I get very passionate. So like if.
544
00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:18.900
Someone is like talking to me or improv-ing back to
545
00:25:18.940 --> 00:25:20.940
me one way, like we can bounce off of each
546
00:25:20.980 --> 00:25:24.049
other so good. So yeah. Just like the chemistry and
547
00:25:24.089 --> 00:25:26.250
the passion and the scenes are like, if it like
548
00:25:26.289 --> 00:25:30.029
looks like anger, disgust, like it looks truly legit and
549
00:25:30.069 --> 00:25:32.450
it is so much fun to do. But when I
550
00:25:32.549 --> 00:25:35.259
do get a script where it's like, okay, we need
551
00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:39.220
this line verbatim. And it might be like vocab that
552
00:25:39.240 --> 00:25:42.930
you never use. Like this is like soap opera, like
553
00:25:43.130 --> 00:25:47.400
way of speaking. It's like, oh my gosh. Like, okay,
554
00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:49.400
now like I have to do this scene and I
555
00:25:49.460 --> 00:25:51.440
also have to talk in a way that I normally
556
00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:54.579
do not talk. So it's like, oh, the pressure is on.
557
00:25:55.329 --> 00:25:59.230
So much on more for scripted scenes versus improv scenes.
558
00:25:59.470 --> 00:26:01.809
Let me ask you, is there any role you're not
559
00:26:02.170 --> 00:26:07.490
comfortable playing? Like I've I've interviewed women in their mid
560
00:26:07.509 --> 00:26:09.750
30s or 40s who are like, I have a kid.
561
00:26:09.869 --> 00:26:12.250
I'm not going to be a stepmom. Like, you know,
562
00:26:12.309 --> 00:26:16.549
is there anything where you're like porn generally pushes this
563
00:26:16.950 --> 00:26:19.509
as this is vanilla within this industry? I'm just not
564
00:26:19.549 --> 00:26:20.609
really comfortable doing that.
565
00:26:23.349 --> 00:26:25.880
I would say maybe in the beginning, some of the
566
00:26:25.910 --> 00:26:28.859
roles that I've played now, I would be like, no,
567
00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:30.180
I would never.
568
00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:30.400
But....
569
00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:35.130
It's just become such a norm to see such crazy
570
00:26:35.210 --> 00:26:40.349
storylines and such unrealistic storylines and porn fantasy world. That
571
00:26:40.410 --> 00:26:43.529
it's just like, nothing surprised me anymore. Like we almost
572
00:26:43.549 --> 00:26:45.839
just like, we'll read through it and be like, what
573
00:26:45.900 --> 00:26:48.900
the fuck is going on? And like, just like laugh
574
00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:51.259
about it and then just move on. Like, yeah, this
575
00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:53.279
is just, this is the script that they're giving us.
576
00:26:53.380 --> 00:26:56.880
I guess this is what they want. It apparently sells.
577
00:26:57.000 --> 00:27:00.289
So whatever. Um, I haven't ran into anything that I've
578
00:27:00.329 --> 00:27:01.460
had to turn down yet.
579
00:27:01.589 --> 00:27:01.990
Um....
580
00:27:05.339 --> 00:27:08.660
I was really used to doing stepdaughter scenes with a
581
00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:11.960
male figure usually, like boy-girl videos. But then I got
582
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:15.920
put into a stepmom scene with a girl-girl. And that
583
00:27:16.269 --> 00:27:18.190
threw me for a loop for some reason. But then
584
00:27:18.250 --> 00:27:20.309
after I did that scene, then I was like, okay,
585
00:27:20.450 --> 00:27:23.670
this is whatever. So yeah, there's not really a rule
586
00:27:23.730 --> 00:27:26.650
that I'm like, nah, I can't do this.
587
00:27:26.789 --> 00:27:28.809
And I'm also a switch. So when it comes.
588
00:27:28.609 --> 00:27:31.410
To usually the submissive role that they put me in naturally,
589
00:27:31.470 --> 00:27:35.119
just because I look younger... But now I've been getting
590
00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:37.859
into the domination scenes, too, which have been really cool.
591
00:27:38.819 --> 00:27:41.299
I want to talk about that. Well, let's let's come
592
00:27:41.339 --> 00:27:44.279
back around that to domination scene stuff. But the third
593
00:27:44.299 --> 00:27:47.430
scene I have from here is from Interracial Pass, where
594
00:27:47.450 --> 00:27:50.170
you work with legendary Lex Steele, I believe.
595
00:27:50.630 --> 00:27:51.250
Yes.
596
00:27:51.630 --> 00:27:53.910
OK. Did you know who Lex was prior to filming
597
00:27:53.950 --> 00:27:54.289
the scene?
598
00:27:55.190 --> 00:27:57.349
I'm the worst with names. And I feel like I
599
00:27:57.390 --> 00:28:01.599
don't know anyone in porn. I don't know males in porn.
600
00:28:01.640 --> 00:28:06.059
I feel like I always see females up on the pedestal.
601
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:09.880
I knew Angela White, Riley Reid, stuff like that.
602
00:28:10.099 --> 00:28:10.920
Your basics.
603
00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:15.079
But male talent? No, I wasn't really familiar with any
604
00:28:15.140 --> 00:28:17.660
male talent when I entered mainstream. It just kind of
605
00:28:17.700 --> 00:28:22.970
was like... Oh, that's so-and-so. That's person friend. I know
606
00:28:23.009 --> 00:28:25.150
them through here or there. I didn't really look at
607
00:28:25.210 --> 00:28:27.710
them as some big top porn star.
608
00:28:27.730 --> 00:28:30.869
And I really don't look at any of the people.
609
00:28:30.650 --> 00:28:33.990
I work with as some high big celebrity figure. It's
610
00:28:34.009 --> 00:28:37.289
just kind of like... oh, that's so-and-so. Like, that's just
611
00:28:37.410 --> 00:28:39.450
my friend. You know what I mean? Like, she just
612
00:28:39.630 --> 00:28:42.769
does this stuff, too. Like, I see them more as
613
00:28:42.809 --> 00:28:45.630
normal people. I never really looked at porn stars, like,
614
00:28:45.670 --> 00:28:47.279
on a pedestal like that before entering.
615
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:52.180
That is such a normal, correct way to view this
616
00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:55.740
type of stuff. And it is the polar opposite of, like,
617
00:28:56.140 --> 00:28:58.440
everything I do and everything 99% of America does. Like,
618
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:02.839
You know, I get set up to interview someone like
619
00:29:02.900 --> 00:29:04.880
Violet Myers or Mackenzie May.
620
00:29:04.900 --> 00:29:06.700
Yeah, right. Yeah.
621
00:29:06.900 --> 00:29:08.700
I sit here and I go like, oh, God, am
622
00:29:08.769 --> 00:29:10.430
I going to fuck this up? Don't fuck this up.
623
00:29:10.470 --> 00:29:13.309
Don't ruin this. And then you jump on and everyone
624
00:29:13.329 --> 00:29:15.309
I've spoken to is entirely cool.
625
00:29:15.329 --> 00:29:18.750
Literally completely fine.
626
00:29:18.930 --> 00:29:19.990
I how is the.
627
00:29:20.009 --> 00:29:20.490
All right.
628
00:29:21.250 --> 00:29:23.309
I've heard horror stories and we've all kind of heard
629
00:29:23.329 --> 00:29:28.990
horror stories about like the back changing room of strip clubs.
630
00:29:29.049 --> 00:29:29.289
Right.
631
00:29:29.349 --> 00:29:31.970
Where the girls kind of. go at each other and
632
00:29:31.990 --> 00:29:34.339
get nasty and this and that. I'm not asking for
633
00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:36.839
you to call out any names, but I generally don't
634
00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:30.289
see that in the adult entertainment industry as Yeah.
635
00:29:46.029 --> 00:29:49.410
It's on Twitter. It's very public to the industry. It's
636
00:29:49.950 --> 00:29:52.990
all social media drama. Yeah. A lot of people will
637
00:29:53.029 --> 00:29:57.099
unfortunately compare the industry to high school or Hollywood. So
638
00:29:58.359 --> 00:30:00.920
sometimes when people get to a certain level of success,
639
00:30:00.980 --> 00:30:02.599
they let it get to their heads and that's all
640
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:07.630
it is. And then also, yeah, it's just kind of like...
641
00:30:07.970 --> 00:30:10.829
people just like bring up random drama and post it
642
00:30:10.869 --> 00:30:13.170
online kind of like facebook drama you know what i
643
00:30:13.210 --> 00:30:17.069
mean it's really nothing super serious for the most part
644
00:30:17.509 --> 00:30:20.839
a lot of it's just kind of like hoopla i
645
00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:23.460
like to i like to just stay off of that
646
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:26.259
side of social media and that side of the industry
647
00:30:26.299 --> 00:30:28.319
i just kind of keep to myself when that stuff
648
00:30:28.359 --> 00:30:30.799
happens but um It's there.
649
00:30:30.819 --> 00:30:32.740
I think it's there in every career.
650
00:30:32.779 --> 00:30:35.089
You know, even when I did work for someone else,
651
00:30:35.140 --> 00:30:37.890
there was always going to be some dramas or it's
652
00:30:37.910 --> 00:30:40.410
just basic workplace drama. Sure.
653
00:30:40.690 --> 00:30:43.210
I'll tell you who I actually do feel really bad for, though,
654
00:30:43.269 --> 00:30:45.759
because you're right. I normally don't see it, but I
655
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:47.900
have been seeing it over the last few weeks. And
656
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:50.339
and let me let me fully explain before it sounds
657
00:30:50.359 --> 00:30:53.500
like I'm defending a creep. I've seen a lot of
658
00:30:53.619 --> 00:30:56.640
male performers being quote unquote canceled over the last couple
659
00:30:56.759 --> 00:30:59.170
of weeks. There's a lot of that. I don't feel
660
00:30:59.190 --> 00:31:02.450
bad for the male performers necessarily unless they're totally innocent.
661
00:31:02.500 --> 00:31:05.859
Then that's something whatever. I feel bad for the female
662
00:31:05.900 --> 00:31:10.380
performers who never had a bad experience with that person individually.
663
00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:13.779
And if they choose to come out and speak against
664
00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:16.140
that person or defend the woman who is making claims,
665
00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:18.460
I totally get that. And I respect that. But I
666
00:31:18.529 --> 00:31:21.630
don't like when other women are pointing to this girl
667
00:31:21.690 --> 00:31:24.549
who never had a bad experience with Jeff, the porn star,
668
00:31:24.890 --> 00:31:27.589
and are going, why aren't you saying anything? You were right.
669
00:31:27.990 --> 00:31:30.549
It's like, hey, man, I defend all women. I think
670
00:31:30.569 --> 00:31:33.660
it's great. I think it's important. But at the same time,
671
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:36.160
it's like if I've never had a bad experience with someone,
672
00:31:36.619 --> 00:31:39.539
I can comment if these are true. These allegations are true.
673
00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:42.480
That's terrible. I have never had a problem with Mackenzie.
674
00:31:42.539 --> 00:31:44.460
She's been great with me. You know, I don't care
675
00:31:44.500 --> 00:31:46.799
that she's going around grabbing people's dicks. I'm just kidding.
676
00:31:46.819 --> 00:31:53.519
You're not accused of that. Um, but I mean, like,
677
00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:55.380
you know what I'm trying to say with that? It's
678
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:56.869
a little unfortunate situation.
679
00:31:56.900 --> 00:31:58.589
Been in that exact same place.
680
00:31:58.630 --> 00:31:59.890
Really? All the time. Yes.
681
00:31:59.970 --> 00:32:02.390
I'll hear something come out about a person and I'm like.
682
00:32:02.990 --> 00:32:06.549
No, so-and-so like that can never, like, I have never
683
00:32:06.609 --> 00:32:08.630
had any issues with them. And then I'll hear from
684
00:32:08.650 --> 00:32:11.049
like another close friend that obviously I trust.
685
00:32:11.329 --> 00:32:13.210
And they'll be like, yeah, like they did this and
686
00:32:13.230 --> 00:32:13.799
this and this.
687
00:32:14.630 --> 00:32:16.690
And it's just a situational thing. I mean, it just
688
00:32:16.789 --> 00:32:18.309
is what it is in life. You're going to get
689
00:32:18.349 --> 00:32:19.930
along with some people and you're not going to get
690
00:32:19.950 --> 00:32:23.109
along with others. And no one's going to be treated
691
00:32:23.150 --> 00:32:25.859
the same way across the board. You're going to have
692
00:32:25.890 --> 00:32:29.619
a different relationship with every person that you meet. So
693
00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:32.359
it is really unfortunate when that stuff happens. But really,
694
00:32:32.579 --> 00:32:33.579
all I can do.
695
00:32:33.500 --> 00:32:35.519
Is just put mental notes in the back of my head.
696
00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:38.420
And that's really what I do. Personally, what I do
697
00:32:38.660 --> 00:32:40.599
is if I read the posts, I've never worked with
698
00:32:40.619 --> 00:32:43.279
them or maybe I did work with them. I bookmark
699
00:32:43.299 --> 00:32:45.069
it just so that I have it in my little
700
00:32:45.109 --> 00:32:46.119
book and I move on.
701
00:32:46.309 --> 00:32:48.109
I don't like to put drama on my Twitter.
702
00:32:48.730 --> 00:32:51.670
My social media or anything related to Mackenzie May, that's
703
00:32:51.710 --> 00:32:55.890
my portfolio to my work. Mackenzie May does not get involved.
704
00:32:55.990 --> 00:32:58.450
I will sit there and I will make a mental
705
00:32:58.490 --> 00:33:01.029
note so that I can make smart decisions in the future.
706
00:33:01.049 --> 00:33:03.410
But I just... It's not worth it.
707
00:33:04.299 --> 00:33:06.740
Because you're never going to make anyone happy. I mean,
708
00:33:06.779 --> 00:33:08.900
someone's always going to be upset with what you have
709
00:33:08.940 --> 00:33:10.920
to say to it. So you might as well just...
710
00:33:11.299 --> 00:33:14.980
I just play it safe. And I'm also very non-confrontational.
711
00:33:15.539 --> 00:33:17.680
I just... It's not... I like to protect my peace.
712
00:33:17.740 --> 00:33:20.599
It's not worth it to me. I would rather just...
713
00:33:21.259 --> 00:33:24.279
make a mental note and move on, then cause a
714
00:33:24.299 --> 00:33:26.819
whole scene is kind of my whole thing. But there
715
00:33:26.900 --> 00:33:30.809
is definitely cases where girls that do have these experiences
716
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:31.650
should speak out.
717
00:33:31.930 --> 00:33:32.410
Sure.
718
00:33:32.569 --> 00:33:33.930
If you're experiencing that.
719
00:33:33.970 --> 00:33:36.549
But girls that aren't experiencing it, it's just kind of
720
00:33:37.029 --> 00:33:39.529
like what you said. It's hard. It's hard. It's like.
721
00:33:39.849 --> 00:33:41.910
It's tough because you want to you want to defend,
722
00:33:42.089 --> 00:33:45.170
you know, the females if something terrible did happen. But
723
00:33:45.289 --> 00:33:47.190
I can't speak from firsthand experience.
724
00:33:47.650 --> 00:33:50.170
No. And that's the biggest thing is firsthand experience. I
725
00:33:50.190 --> 00:33:52.269
don't want to put my opinion out there because I
726
00:33:52.329 --> 00:33:55.829
wasn't directly there. So I can't give the best opinion.
727
00:33:55.910 --> 00:33:57.829
I'm going to sit here and I'll show my support. And,
728
00:33:57.849 --> 00:34:00.950
you know, I'm not like defending either which side. But
729
00:34:01.170 --> 00:34:03.349
at the end of the day, I'm not going to
730
00:34:03.750 --> 00:34:06.950
make a Twitter post, especially if I wasn't personally involved
731
00:34:06.990 --> 00:34:08.389
in myself. Sure, sure.
732
00:34:08.900 --> 00:34:12.179
Let's talk about the brand, the Mackenzie Mae brand. How
733
00:34:12.219 --> 00:34:14.909
important is branding to you? It sounded like earlier on
734
00:34:14.949 --> 00:34:17.650
you were saying something along those lines where it's like
735
00:34:17.809 --> 00:34:21.139
kind of. Not in a negative way, like your fastest
736
00:34:21.179 --> 00:34:24.349
way to success is sticking on your highway lane kind of, right?
737
00:34:24.389 --> 00:34:25.829
Is that true or no?
738
00:34:25.949 --> 00:34:28.070
Yeah, finding like a niche and then, yeah, I mean,
739
00:34:28.090 --> 00:34:29.769
you want to spread out. If you can get multiple,
740
00:34:29.829 --> 00:34:32.389
that's cool. But kind of having something that you're more
741
00:34:32.429 --> 00:34:33.949
known for makes you stand out.
742
00:34:34.650 --> 00:34:35.849
It just is what it is.
743
00:34:35.889 --> 00:34:40.780
So yes, Mackenzie Mae started as Sorority Mackenzie, became Mackenzie
744
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:43.559
Mae because Sorority Mackenzie isn't a name in porn. It's
745
00:34:43.619 --> 00:34:46.179
not like a first last name. So it became Mackenzie Mae.
746
00:34:47.500 --> 00:34:51.360
with that very like college dropout first it was sorority
747
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:54.150
girl turned college dropout not into porn so making the
748
00:34:54.210 --> 00:34:59.329
transition with that keeping a very young persona bubbly persona
749
00:34:59.849 --> 00:35:02.230
I put out there like a lot of my raving
750
00:35:02.289 --> 00:35:06.559
lifestyle really who I am as a person just as
751
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:10.219
Mackenzie I try to keep pretty true to my fans
752
00:35:10.300 --> 00:35:12.239
and very much like day in the life to keep
753
00:35:12.300 --> 00:35:15.739
it as normal as possible I like to give people
754
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:18.400
like a look into the porn world and being like, oh, yeah,
755
00:35:18.420 --> 00:35:20.280
this is just a normal girl that has all these
756
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:22.800
different activities. And she happens to also just be a
757
00:35:22.820 --> 00:35:28.610
whore on the Internet. It's just it's a side persona
758
00:35:28.670 --> 00:35:33.190
like Mackenzie also does, you know, kayaking, hiking, you know,
759
00:35:33.250 --> 00:35:35.429
all this other stuff, dog training, you know, police. And
760
00:35:35.449 --> 00:35:39.449
I like I do do these other things, too. However, yes,
761
00:35:39.630 --> 00:35:40.570
I also do porn.
762
00:35:41.340 --> 00:35:42.960
This is going to seem like a weird pivot, but
763
00:35:42.980 --> 00:35:44.719
I promise I'll bring it back to where I think
764
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:47.260
it's going to go. What are your views on AI
765
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:48.780
and AI in the industry?
766
00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:53.980
Oh, that's so hard because like you hear so much
767
00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:58.239
and it's like I'm not educated enough on AI, like technically.
768
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:00.760
So I feel like form like a really solid opinion
769
00:36:00.860 --> 00:36:04.050
on it. Has it been cutting down work in the industry?
770
00:36:04.050 --> 00:36:04.090
100%.
771
00:36:04.090 --> 00:36:07.909
And I feel like it also develops a lack of
772
00:36:08.010 --> 00:36:12.929
trust between users, creators, and their fans. I personally run
773
00:36:12.969 --> 00:36:15.150
my pages on my own, but I've heard of a
774
00:36:15.190 --> 00:36:18.539
lot of people thinking about using different AI chatbots and
775
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:22.159
stuff like that. And that just concerns me because it's like, okay,
776
00:36:22.179 --> 00:36:24.559
well then how do my fans know now if I'm
777
00:36:24.619 --> 00:36:27.179
one of those users that's using an AI chatbot? Or
778
00:36:27.219 --> 00:36:29.940
like I see girls post Instagram pictures all the time
779
00:36:30.380 --> 00:36:33.219
of them in these exotic places that they never went.
780
00:36:33.300 --> 00:36:34.940
They're still sitting there on their couch.
781
00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:35.400
Yeah.
782
00:36:35.579 --> 00:36:39.219
So it's kind of sitting there fighting like the moral idea. Okay, yes,
783
00:36:39.260 --> 00:36:41.139
I can sit here and get all this extra content
784
00:36:41.219 --> 00:36:44.800
using AI and use it to my benefit. But then
785
00:36:44.860 --> 00:36:46.469
am I also going to lose the fans that are
786
00:36:46.489 --> 00:36:48.670
completely against? And now they're going to think that I'm
787
00:36:48.690 --> 00:36:50.829
not a real person when in reality I am.
788
00:36:51.170 --> 00:36:54.929
Sure. I, I, I agree fully. I think my view
789
00:36:55.030 --> 00:36:57.849
on this is more. I understand if you're in front
790
00:36:57.889 --> 00:37:00.110
of the camera having fears of it because it can
791
00:37:00.269 --> 00:37:04.949
create content. Totally get that. But the other side of
792
00:37:05.010 --> 00:37:08.880
it is not the chat bots. You're right. But how
793
00:37:08.940 --> 00:37:14.139
much could it reduce your workload on actually producing content
794
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:16.460
if it was a bit like if, you know, a
795
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:18.190
couple of years from now when the editing is good
796
00:37:18.210 --> 00:37:20.389
and whatever, if you can just drop a video file
797
00:37:20.449 --> 00:37:22.949
in there, multiple video files and go cut this in
798
00:37:22.989 --> 00:37:27.480
a way, Mackenzie May would cut her videos, you know, blah, blah, blah.
799
00:37:28.059 --> 00:37:29.780
And they can pump that out for you in like
800
00:37:29.860 --> 00:37:32.559
two minutes. That's a beneficial thing. I don't know how
801
00:37:32.579 --> 00:37:34.840
to code for shit. I would never know how to
802
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:37.159
do it. I built my Web site in an afternoon
803
00:37:37.219 --> 00:37:40.150
just saying, like, make this more red, put a video
804
00:37:40.170 --> 00:37:42.690
box and it's greater than anything I could have ever done.
805
00:37:43.530 --> 00:37:46.110
But and to bring it all the way back, this
806
00:37:46.170 --> 00:37:48.530
is this is human skill, by the way. I think
807
00:37:48.550 --> 00:37:51.860
the most important thing going forward, I don't think I
808
00:37:51.900 --> 00:37:57.380
will hurt content in the way we're expecting. I can
809
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:00.210
go on any big box site, you know, and find
810
00:38:00.469 --> 00:38:03.650
hot videos, big tits, gangbang, this and that. What I
811
00:38:03.710 --> 00:38:06.760
can't do is go on there and also Google, like,
812
00:38:06.780 --> 00:38:10.059
what did Mackenzie Mae do today? You know, what was
813
00:38:10.099 --> 00:38:12.449
her trip like? You know, she had a bad day.
814
00:38:12.489 --> 00:38:15.030
It's raining outside. Let me tip her ten dollars. The
815
00:38:15.190 --> 00:38:19.710
genuine authenticity of being able to communicate with the performers themselves,
816
00:38:19.949 --> 00:38:22.110
which may get overwhelming when you get up, you know,
817
00:38:22.150 --> 00:38:24.989
around two million followers on Twitter. Of course, it's going
818
00:38:25.010 --> 00:38:27.940
to get crazy. But I think that's the only thing
819
00:38:27.980 --> 00:38:30.579
that's going to sustain long, long term.
820
00:38:30.579 --> 00:38:37.920
100% is the one-on-one connection and actual human stuff. And
821
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:39.559
I totally see what you're saying. I wish I could
822
00:38:39.579 --> 00:38:41.860
sit there and pump out content. And technically, I can.
823
00:38:41.960 --> 00:38:43.039
I can sit there and do.
824
00:38:43.099 --> 00:38:43.840
Everything I want.
825
00:38:44.019 --> 00:38:47.889
I have edited my photos with AI before. Let's say
826
00:38:47.929 --> 00:38:52.550
they're like, we love this photo, but you can't... It
827
00:38:52.610 --> 00:38:54.590
needs to be more safe for work. You can't have
828
00:38:54.610 --> 00:38:57.750
your nipples showing through the lingerie. Okay. Well, it still
829
00:38:57.889 --> 00:38:59.969
looks like me. I'm just going to sit there and
830
00:39:00.150 --> 00:39:02.730
AI and just tell AI to blur out my nipples
831
00:39:02.949 --> 00:39:05.550
and then just call it a day. Love it. Love
832
00:39:05.570 --> 00:39:09.360
doing stuff like that. It's just... It's just a trust thing.
833
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:10.800
And then the other thing that I bring up that
834
00:39:10.820 --> 00:39:12.920
I won't get super deep into because this is going
835
00:39:12.940 --> 00:39:14.059
to take us down a hole.
836
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:15.800
Sure. Um.
837
00:39:16.889 --> 00:39:19.739
But when people start to create AI porn and kind
838
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:23.139
of like what we're getting into now is the legality
839
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:25.699
of what type of AI porn can we make and
840
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:28.429
what can we get away with? Because technically it's not
841
00:39:28.750 --> 00:39:32.380
real because it's AI. So are you still committing a crime,
842
00:39:32.500 --> 00:39:33.639
creating certain.
843
00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:34.400
Sure.
844
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:38.179
And that's where we get slipped up. That's where the
845
00:39:38.219 --> 00:39:41.219
line gets a little blurry. And I think stuff is
846
00:39:41.260 --> 00:39:42.900
going on in the world right now to kind of
847
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:45.960
prevent that. But that's also another thing. The people that
848
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:49.989
have money for all this actual good AI stuff... They're
849
00:39:50.030 --> 00:39:54.929
not investing it in porn. They're not. At least no
850
00:39:55.030 --> 00:39:57.130
one right now that I know of is. And someone
851
00:39:57.170 --> 00:39:57.710
can totally.
852
00:39:57.809 --> 00:39:58.630
I didn't research this.
853
00:39:58.650 --> 00:40:00.869
So someone could totally bring up the research and correct me.
854
00:40:00.909 --> 00:40:02.070
I would love that.
855
00:40:02.369 --> 00:40:04.289
But as far as I'm aware of, I think we
856
00:40:04.329 --> 00:40:06.750
got a few more years going on. I don't think
857
00:40:06.889 --> 00:40:10.449
anyone's going to advance porn or advance AI to the
858
00:40:10.510 --> 00:40:14.369
point of it looking so much like real porn. Because
859
00:40:14.469 --> 00:40:17.530
what everyone is ultimately scared of as being a porn
860
00:40:17.550 --> 00:40:21.500
startup creator is... Okay, let me see Mackenzie May doing
861
00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:24.829
a DP with da-da-da-da-da-da and giving all the details. Boom,
862
00:40:24.949 --> 00:40:28.889
free video up there. They're scared of taking the image away.
863
00:40:28.949 --> 00:40:32.849
It's the name, image, and likeness or something like that. Yeah,
864
00:40:32.929 --> 00:40:35.739
that's what people are worried about right now. So that's
865
00:40:35.780 --> 00:40:38.420
kind of the main lost stuff going on. It's not
866
00:40:38.460 --> 00:40:39.699
the creating of it.
867
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:41.780
It's creating....
868
00:40:42.210 --> 00:40:42.849
In a bad way.
869
00:40:43.250 --> 00:40:44.010
Sure, sure.
870
00:40:44.150 --> 00:40:47.530
And I get that, too. That actually is Twitter drama
871
00:40:47.570 --> 00:40:51.260
that I do appreciate, though. When these girls call out
872
00:40:52.739 --> 00:40:54.840
companies or whoever in the contract.
873
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:55.980
We know.
874
00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:57.139
We already know.
875
00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:02.179
It says, we'll just have your AI likeness. No, you won't. No,
876
00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:04.860
you fuck. But you know what, though? We are getting
877
00:41:04.940 --> 00:41:08.690
to a point where it's not happening. Wait, we're really
878
00:41:08.750 --> 00:41:10.489
on a very... We're going to be in a very
879
00:41:10.530 --> 00:41:12.860
strange world 10 years from now. Like, nothing you've ever seen.
880
00:41:12.949 --> 00:41:14.059
It's going to be way different.
881
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:14.320
Right.
882
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:16.840
It was different three years ago, two years ago, even.
883
00:41:16.860 --> 00:41:19.539
Everything's changing at a really rapid pace.
884
00:41:19.699 --> 00:41:19.920
Sure.
885
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:22.860
But as much as there is that fear, like you said,
886
00:41:22.900 --> 00:41:24.829
that they'll just take Mackenzie Mae and do this and that,
887
00:41:25.269 --> 00:41:28.699
the truth is... Five years from now, when AI has
888
00:41:28.739 --> 00:41:32.139
really developed, everything has gotten much cheaper for them to
889
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:35.099
produce and whatever else. It's not just going to be,
890
00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:38.260
you know, who has the name likeness and writes to
891
00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:41.340
Mackenzie May. It's going to be there is a a
892
00:41:41.460 --> 00:41:43.340
dark web version of it where I can put a
893
00:41:43.380 --> 00:41:46.480
picture of my neighbor who's a 22 year old girl
894
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:49.599
and upload that and go put her with Lex Steel.
895
00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:50.380
Let's take a look.
896
00:41:50.659 --> 00:41:53.519
Well, that's totally what people are even doing now with
897
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:54.659
the revenge stuff.
898
00:41:55.059 --> 00:41:55.199
Yeah.
899
00:41:55.219 --> 00:41:59.329
Yeah. Yeah. And I honestly, I don't know how to
900
00:41:59.349 --> 00:42:03.369
prevent that because once that Pandora's box is open and
901
00:42:03.730 --> 00:42:07.820
obviously the big guys, ChatGPT, Anthropic, all them can regulate it.
902
00:42:07.889 --> 00:42:08.679
Yeah, of course.
903
00:42:09.179 --> 00:42:11.639
But that doesn't mean anything when you have those ones
904
00:42:11.659 --> 00:42:14.280
that like come out of China that are open source and.
905
00:42:14.949 --> 00:42:17.110
Right. Well, and there's plenty of smart people on the
906
00:42:17.150 --> 00:42:20.269
planet that can code whatever they want. I have friends
907
00:42:20.309 --> 00:42:23.090
that are into coding that make all these crazy different
908
00:42:23.139 --> 00:42:26.639
machines for their live streams. It's like, that doesn't exist
909
00:42:26.699 --> 00:42:29.860
and you just created that. So if you just did that,
910
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:32.139
that means there's a million other people out there that
911
00:42:32.179 --> 00:42:35.019
can also do that. So... I mean, if we sit
912
00:42:35.059 --> 00:42:36.699
here and block all of it off at the end
913
00:42:36.739 --> 00:42:38.239
of the day, like what you said with the dark
914
00:42:38.300 --> 00:42:41.130
web and everything, that's a whole nother Pandora's box where
915
00:42:41.150 --> 00:42:43.289
it's like, I just don't even want to think about
916
00:42:43.309 --> 00:42:44.710
the potential there.
917
00:42:44.730 --> 00:42:45.750
You know what I mean?
918
00:42:46.070 --> 00:42:46.690
Sure.
919
00:42:46.710 --> 00:42:50.690
Yeah. It's, it's the regulations, any of that. It just
920
00:42:50.730 --> 00:42:53.070
seems like endless.
921
00:42:53.869 --> 00:42:56.710
So if any new performers are listening to this, read
922
00:42:56.730 --> 00:42:58.449
your contracts. Yes.
923
00:42:58.550 --> 00:42:59.719
Read them close.
924
00:42:59.780 --> 00:43:00.940
Yes, very much so.
925
00:43:01.420 --> 00:43:02.269
Um, All right.
926
00:43:02.369 --> 00:43:05.070
Jumping back into content. What makes you say yes to
927
00:43:05.110 --> 00:43:10.090
an opportunity? Is it, you know, 90 percent price, 10
928
00:43:10.090 --> 00:43:13.349
percent one? Is it 90 percent one, 10 percent price
929
00:43:13.389 --> 00:43:16.989
like your manager, your agent or, you know, if you're self-booking?
930
00:43:17.050 --> 00:43:17.360
Oh, you are.
931
00:43:17.369 --> 00:43:18.179
You're with Husky Models.
932
00:43:18.260 --> 00:43:18.449
OK.
933
00:43:19.110 --> 00:43:22.420
Your manager comes to you and says, hey, this opportunity
934
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.179
is here. What factors are you considering before you take
935
00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:25.679
that job?
936
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:30.480
Main factor is immediately what type of video.
937
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:33.320
That's what I put first. I have a standard rate
938
00:43:33.559 --> 00:43:35.000
in most companies.
939
00:43:35.159 --> 00:43:37.659
I really don't have any issues with companies wanting to
940
00:43:37.699 --> 00:43:40.980
pay my rate. So money's never really been an issue there.
941
00:43:41.099 --> 00:43:44.000
And then also, sometimes I'll even do paid trade where
942
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:45.860
it's like, okay, I love this scene so much. I'm
943
00:43:45.900 --> 00:43:47.920
willing to take a lower rate as long as I
944
00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:50.019
also get the content so I can sell it too.
945
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:54.630
So there's a benefit with that. But I would say
946
00:43:54.650 --> 00:43:57.750
I get really excited about the ideas in the actual project,
947
00:43:57.829 --> 00:44:01.929
especially lately when it comes to the anal seams, because
948
00:44:01.949 --> 00:44:04.670
the more of those I get put out there, It's
949
00:44:04.690 --> 00:44:06.409
kind of like a chain effect because I know that
950
00:44:06.429 --> 00:44:08.400
that's going to have the best fan conversion rate. So
951
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:10.159
I want to put on a good performance. I like
952
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:12.440
seeing the high quality video because it's not something I
953
00:44:12.460 --> 00:44:15.239
can produce here and at my home at this time.
954
00:44:15.380 --> 00:44:18.039
So I just get excited about the whole experience.
955
00:44:18.940 --> 00:44:22.670
And you know what? Yeah, because that's totally right. I
956
00:44:22.750 --> 00:44:25.349
don't care about the money because I've left set before
957
00:44:25.369 --> 00:44:26.070
without my check.
958
00:44:26.679 --> 00:44:27.320
Sure.
959
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:29.780
I've done that now that I'm thinking about it. I literally,
960
00:44:29.860 --> 00:44:32.380
I do that all the time. Or I will, I
961
00:44:32.420 --> 00:44:34.199
was just talking about it with a director the other day.
962
00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:36.469
I'll take my check home and this is going to
963
00:44:36.530 --> 00:44:41.389
sound so toned up of me. I will take like
964
00:44:41.429 --> 00:44:43.489
my checks home and I'll like just.
965
00:44:43.389 --> 00:44:44.010
Forget about them.
966
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:47.510
I'll just like leave them in my wallet. So then like,
967
00:44:47.659 --> 00:44:50.949
I'll have all this money that's just like sitting in
968
00:44:50.989 --> 00:44:53.449
the air that I just magically, I just did like
969
00:44:53.469 --> 00:44:55.929
all this work for free. And I'm like, I'm just
970
00:44:56.449 --> 00:44:58.929
going around about my life. I just had fun on set.
971
00:44:59.030 --> 00:45:01.710
And then I'll just like be walking around or like,
972
00:45:01.730 --> 00:45:03.570
I'll grab up my debit card to pay for something.
973
00:45:03.610 --> 00:45:05.289
And then like a check falls out.
974
00:45:05.329 --> 00:45:10.090
I'm like, oh, my scene from last week. I'm like,
975
00:45:10.130 --> 00:45:11.610
oh my gosh, free money.
976
00:45:14.610 --> 00:45:17.150
It's the worst it's terrible because I'm like oh my
977
00:45:17.170 --> 00:45:20.610
gosh oh no like this could have been bad because
978
00:45:20.630 --> 00:45:22.639
I've always found it like a week or so later
979
00:45:22.739 --> 00:45:25.019
but yeah I just I kind of just go there
980
00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:28.360
for the excitement of the scene and I'm I'm very
981
00:45:28.460 --> 00:45:31.969
much like I get a lot of happiness off of praise.
982
00:45:32.070 --> 00:45:34.489
I'm very much like the good girl thing.
983
00:45:34.530 --> 00:45:36.550
I'm like, oh, yes, dopamine.
984
00:45:37.230 --> 00:45:40.070
So to see a video come out and all the
985
00:45:40.110 --> 00:45:44.250
fans retweeted and messaged me, da-da-da-da-da, that gives me so
986
00:45:44.289 --> 00:45:47.500
much more happiness than what money actually does, which sounds
987
00:45:47.579 --> 00:45:54.440
so stupid. That's so ridiculous. Honestly, like the extra money
988
00:45:54.460 --> 00:45:56.039
at the end of the day, as long as my
989
00:45:56.059 --> 00:45:58.599
bills are paid, like this is just extra bonus stuff.
990
00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:01.550
I just like bringing joy to people and pleasing other people.
991
00:46:01.570 --> 00:46:04.090
I love I love the idea of the guy who
992
00:46:04.110 --> 00:46:05.730
you were talking about earlier. You're like, I'm going to
993
00:46:05.750 --> 00:46:07.929
speak to an investment guy. He goes, you do what?
994
00:46:08.349 --> 00:46:14.300
You don't cash your checks. What are you talking about?
995
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:17.639
Yeah, no, they're just here. It's just money, right?
996
00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:18.940
No, literally.
997
00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:22.360
Literally, because right now it just sits there and it's
998
00:46:22.489 --> 00:46:25.650
fine sitting there, but it also could be sitting somewhere
999
00:46:25.710 --> 00:46:28.710
else doing better stuff. So it's just like, it's just
1000
00:46:28.769 --> 00:46:32.739
doing it. It's knowing what you need to do. It's
1001
00:46:32.780 --> 00:46:34.360
just going and doing it.
1002
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:38.320
Oh, my God. I got a question. Lily Bell, when
1003
00:46:38.380 --> 00:46:41.030
I interviewed her, she gave me this. I asked, you know,
1004
00:46:41.050 --> 00:46:43.179
what is your dream scene? And she laid out this
1005
00:46:43.300 --> 00:46:48.309
beautiful scenario, expensive set. It was a lesbian scene, this
1006
00:46:48.389 --> 00:46:51.070
and that and whatever else. And she goes into great detail.
1007
00:46:51.449 --> 00:46:53.849
And I go, how well would that sell? But she
1008
00:46:53.889 --> 00:46:55.239
really wants to do. She goes, not at all.
1009
00:46:56.550 --> 00:47:00.469
Oh yeah always that's.
1010
00:46:59.630 --> 00:47:02.329
So funny i know i gotta yeah i don't sweat
1011
00:47:02.409 --> 00:47:05.010
i have had so many dogs on this show.
1012
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:07.579
Hey i thought we were doing great that was pretty
1013
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:10.719
impressive that we made it almost the whole time no
1014
00:47:10.739 --> 00:47:12.079
we almost made it the whole.
1015
00:47:11.940 --> 00:47:15.360
Time i love i've had so many dogs on this
1016
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:19.820
show um Totally. What was I saying? What was I saying?
1017
00:47:20.179 --> 00:47:22.670
Oh, is there an expensive girl girl scene? That wouldn't
1018
00:47:22.710 --> 00:47:23.130
be funny.
1019
00:47:23.329 --> 00:47:27.840
Is there content you want to produce badly? But you're like,
1020
00:47:28.230 --> 00:47:32.409
I don't know if the ROI makes sense on this
1021
00:47:32.530 --> 00:47:34.469
for either my brand or for what it would cost
1022
00:47:34.530 --> 00:47:35.190
or for whatever.
1023
00:47:35.210 --> 00:47:38.090
Yeah, there's there's one that would do well.
1024
00:47:38.150 --> 00:47:40.949
And then there's one that wouldn't. Like there's one that
1025
00:47:40.989 --> 00:47:43.059
like is very classic and you've seen it done a
1026
00:47:43.099 --> 00:47:45.280
million times. But, you know, I came from a farm. So,
1027
00:47:45.300 --> 00:47:47.199
of course, I have like this farmer's daughter scene that
1028
00:47:47.219 --> 00:47:47.699
I would love.
1029
00:47:48.059 --> 00:47:48.190
Mm hmm.
1030
00:47:48.539 --> 00:47:50.059
Very much would love it to be on like an
1031
00:47:50.219 --> 00:47:54.119
actual classic farm, the Daisy Diggs, Little Crop, all that. Classic,
1032
00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:56.260
that would make money. That would be fine. That's a
1033
00:47:56.280 --> 00:47:58.760
very easy scene. The one that I would love to
1034
00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:02.840
do that's really complex would take so much money and
1035
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:06.679
so many different people and so many different parts to
1036
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:09.510
produce this project. And I would love to do it,
1037
00:48:09.530 --> 00:48:11.989
but there's no way I'm going to ever be able to,
1038
00:48:12.789 --> 00:48:15.849
is I'm a huge horror movie fan. I grew up
1039
00:48:15.929 --> 00:48:19.090
literally like I was raised on horror movies. Like it
1040
00:48:19.130 --> 00:48:21.269
just was what it was. Like we just constantly had
1041
00:48:21.309 --> 00:48:25.329
them going on just in the background during dinner. So
1042
00:48:25.659 --> 00:48:27.880
I would really like to do a saw scene, like
1043
00:48:27.940 --> 00:48:29.440
a saw group scene.
1044
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:30.840
That's cool. Yeah.
1045
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:33.579
So I would like with the different like contraptions and
1046
00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:35.139
stuff like that. And I want there to be like
1047
00:48:35.179 --> 00:48:37.130
a timer. Like if you don't do this in a
1048
00:48:37.170 --> 00:48:40.449
certain amount of time, then like... And this is where
1049
00:48:40.489 --> 00:48:43.300
it gets kind of legally weird. It's like, you can't
1050
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:46.199
imply that, you know, there's an ending to, you know,
1051
00:48:46.260 --> 00:48:46.739
the people.
1052
00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:49.920
Um, but it's like, I, Oh, I don't know.
1053
00:48:49.980 --> 00:48:51.659
It's so hard. Cause it's like, I know like, I
1054
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:53.670
think kink could make a lot of the different like
1055
00:48:53.710 --> 00:48:57.909
machines that I want in the contractions, like John Paul,
1056
00:48:58.269 --> 00:49:03.929
all those people. Um, but the legality of how much
1057
00:49:04.010 --> 00:49:07.059
like hardcore stuff I could do, I don't know about that.
1058
00:49:07.219 --> 00:49:08.880
And then also like, it.
1059
00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:11.659
Would need to be in like this warehouse and like,
1060
00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:15.769
it would have to have like special effects, like makeup artists.
1061
00:49:15.889 --> 00:49:18.269
Like I would maybe have to get like hentai or
1062
00:49:18.289 --> 00:49:21.219
like parasited crew in. on it like this is such
1063
00:49:21.260 --> 00:49:23.400
an intense project to get like what I want to
1064
00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:25.920
do like I want to have saw and then also
1065
00:49:25.940 --> 00:49:30.670
copyrighted also probably copyrighted can I even have someone coming
1066
00:49:30.710 --> 00:49:33.989
in on a little tricycle because if I can't I
1067
00:49:34.010 --> 00:49:35.630
don't want to do the scene anymore.
1068
00:49:35.630 --> 00:49:39.269
Yeah, he'd probably have to look different. That is brilliant,
1069
00:49:39.289 --> 00:49:39.710
by the way.
1070
00:49:39.949 --> 00:49:42.340
And it'd be so good.
1071
00:49:42.579 --> 00:49:44.760
Let me comment. Wife and I are just like you.
1072
00:49:44.820 --> 00:49:46.980
My wife and I take one vacation a year. Where
1073
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:48.340
do you think we go? Take a guess.
1074
00:49:49.570 --> 00:49:51.480
Is it just Hawaii? Just like your basic Hawaii?
1075
00:49:51.539 --> 00:49:55.920
No, we spend Halloween every year in Salem, Massachusetts. Every
1076
00:49:55.960 --> 00:49:56.539
year lasts like 12 years.
1077
00:49:56.559 --> 00:49:57.800
Oh my gosh, that would be amazing.
1078
00:49:57.860 --> 00:49:59.960
Yes, okay, I see what you're saying with the horror
1079
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:01.260
and the Halloween.
1080
00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:03.969
So I get it. I'm feeling your video here. That's
1081
00:50:04.090 --> 00:50:05.550
maybe the first production. Oh, it would be so good.
1082
00:50:06.090 --> 00:50:07.650
Mackenzie May production.
1083
00:50:07.670 --> 00:50:07.789
I know.
1084
00:50:08.570 --> 00:50:08.909
I know.
1085
00:50:09.070 --> 00:50:10.989
I might have to go to Europe for it. Europe
1086
00:50:11.010 --> 00:50:12.159
would let me get away with it.
1087
00:50:13.230 --> 00:50:15.989
Europe will let you get away with anything. Exactly.
1088
00:50:16.429 --> 00:50:18.730
Exactly. I just got to find someone. I just got
1089
00:50:18.750 --> 00:50:22.929
to find a wealthy investor if you're out here. You
1090
00:50:22.949 --> 00:50:24.210
know where to find the DMs.
1091
00:50:24.809 --> 00:50:27.329
Have you ever shot with what is it? The guys
1092
00:50:27.510 --> 00:50:32.159
in the Czech Republic? Is it who are the porn pros? Oh, wait.
1093
00:50:32.389 --> 00:50:34.539
I have heard. I have heard those guys like if
1094
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:38.710
you watch those scenes. It's like not violent at all,
1095
00:50:38.730 --> 00:50:42.550
but it's like pound away, pound away. And then the
1096
00:50:42.570 --> 00:50:44.389
last like 10 girls I've interviewed that have shot with
1097
00:50:44.409 --> 00:50:47.300
them all have been like, they are so professional. They
1098
00:50:47.340 --> 00:50:49.070
are so nice. You go into it and you go,
1099
00:50:49.510 --> 00:50:50.900
this is the scene we're going to do. Please let
1100
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:53.860
us know if you need to pull back, anything like that. Very,
1101
00:50:53.940 --> 00:50:56.940
very professional. And then you watch the scene and you're like, oh,
1102
00:50:56.960 --> 00:50:58.880
I wonder if she filed charges.
1103
00:50:58.940 --> 00:50:59.320
Yeah.
1104
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:02.489
Like, holy shit. But good for them. We need more
1105
00:51:02.530 --> 00:51:04.800
of that. People who produce a specific kind of content
1106
00:51:04.820 --> 00:51:06.500
that they want to produce, but run it all the
1107
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:08.639
way through every level before.
1108
00:51:08.659 --> 00:51:09.800
A hundred percent.
1109
00:51:09.980 --> 00:51:10.179
Right.
1110
00:51:10.219 --> 00:51:10.860
A hundred percent.
1111
00:51:10.900 --> 00:51:13.389
Especially now, things have been getting a lot more strict
1112
00:51:13.469 --> 00:51:16.250
on like the consent laws and everything with it going
1113
00:51:16.289 --> 00:51:19.210
through and making sure, you know, we have the pre-scene
1114
00:51:19.250 --> 00:51:22.409
video where it's like, OK, you're not under the influence, right?
1115
00:51:22.429 --> 00:51:23.949
Like you're consenting to all of this.
1116
00:51:23.989 --> 00:51:27.219
Correct. And then also the post-scene video where you're Once again,
1117
00:51:27.300 --> 00:51:30.920
reiterating that you're good with everything that goes on. But yes,
1118
00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:33.719
a lot of times they will have a checklist where
1119
00:51:33.739 --> 00:51:36.280
it's like, okay, what are your do's and don'ts? What
1120
00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:37.739
are things that we can do? What are things that
1121
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:39.570
we can't do? What's going to be your safe word
1122
00:51:39.619 --> 00:51:41.250
during the scene? Or how can we know that you're
1123
00:51:41.269 --> 00:51:44.170
uncomfortable with something during the scene? A lot of companies
1124
00:51:44.190 --> 00:51:47.349
have been getting a lot better about that. You really
1125
00:51:47.389 --> 00:51:50.030
don't see those issues too much anymore, especially with at
1126
00:51:50.050 --> 00:51:51.869
least your main pro companies.
1127
00:51:52.570 --> 00:51:55.219
Gotcha. Gotcha. All right. Last question I have for you,
1128
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:57.510
by the way, if you're listening to this at Real
1129
00:51:57.570 --> 00:52:01.889
McKenzie May links to everything in the episode description, as always, again,
1130
00:52:01.949 --> 00:52:03.969
like we always say, support people when they come on
1131
00:52:03.989 --> 00:52:05.570
the show. It's the most important thing you could do.
1132
00:52:06.710 --> 00:52:09.489
I interviewed Dee Dee White, who is 71 years old
1133
00:52:09.570 --> 00:52:12.940
and does, in her own words, BBC gang bangs. OK,
1134
00:52:12.980 --> 00:52:16.960
is that what she likes to use? I think that's great.
1135
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:22.400
What is your future? Are you doing gilf porn someday?
1136
00:52:22.539 --> 00:52:25.599
Are you out at 35 and you're raising dogs in
1137
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:29.840
your mansion or you wouldn't you wouldn't be a mansion?
1138
00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:32.300
You would be like 500 acres, I think, somewhere.
1139
00:52:32.500 --> 00:52:34.920
Yeah, I would be... The dream would be like one
1140
00:52:34.940 --> 00:52:35.619
of those... What is it?
1141
00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:37.820
Like a barn dominium or something.
1142
00:52:38.460 --> 00:52:40.840
Love that. Or like one of those like modern... I
1143
00:52:40.900 --> 00:52:44.469
do really like those like modern cabin-y wood stone houses.
1144
00:52:44.869 --> 00:52:45.730
Like the dark.
1145
00:52:45.489 --> 00:52:48.789
Stained wood and like all the different textures. Those are cool.
1146
00:52:49.369 --> 00:52:51.090
My whole thing is like a homestead. I want a
1147
00:52:51.130 --> 00:52:53.230
hobby farm. I grew up on a farm that was
1148
00:52:53.250 --> 00:52:56.429
like a production farm. We did dairy. We had swine
1149
00:52:56.469 --> 00:52:58.769
for a while. I think we had poultry at one
1150
00:52:58.809 --> 00:53:02.130
point too when I was very young. But we went
1151
00:53:02.150 --> 00:53:04.070
through all that. I don't want a big scale production.
1152
00:53:04.110 --> 00:53:06.269
That's a lot of work. And that really closes off
1153
00:53:06.289 --> 00:53:09.360
your life. I would love to just have a couple
1154
00:53:09.380 --> 00:53:12.840
little ducks, a couple little pigs. Just like my little
1155
00:53:12.900 --> 00:53:13.780
mini Noah's Ark.
1156
00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:15.079
You know what I mean?
1157
00:53:15.139 --> 00:53:17.920
Just my couple little pairings. I can go out, do
1158
00:53:17.940 --> 00:53:20.869
my little hobby farming. I could do some OFTV with it.
1159
00:53:20.909 --> 00:53:22.650
I could do YouTube with it.
1160
00:53:22.909 --> 00:53:24.510
This is a whole thing that I have in my
1161
00:53:24.570 --> 00:53:25.150
head right now.
1162
00:53:25.170 --> 00:53:28.889
By the time I'm 30, I would love a mini
1163
00:53:28.929 --> 00:53:29.590
Highland cow.
1164
00:53:30.389 --> 00:53:31.250
So that's the goal.
1165
00:53:31.590 --> 00:53:32.360
Okay. All right.
1166
00:53:32.659 --> 00:53:35.260
But then it sounds like you would still continue on producing.
1167
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:38.579
I don't expect to quit anytime soon.
1168
00:53:38.679 --> 00:53:41.199
And even so, even if I did slow down on
1169
00:53:41.260 --> 00:53:44.869
production content, I wouldn't stop marketing it because that content's
1170
00:53:44.929 --> 00:53:45.690
out there forever.
1171
00:53:45.710 --> 00:53:48.929
No matter what, why would I stop profiting on it?
1172
00:53:49.889 --> 00:53:52.010
I can technically just leave it out there and just
1173
00:53:52.070 --> 00:53:54.670
call it a day, but then I'm not benefiting on it.
1174
00:53:54.750 --> 00:53:57.469
So even if I do quit porn in the future,
1175
00:53:57.510 --> 00:53:59.170
I'm still going to market and sell it what I
1176
00:53:59.230 --> 00:54:00.090
have in the past.
1177
00:54:01.139 --> 00:54:03.739
Ladies and gentlemen, my guest today, Mackenzie May. I have
1178
00:54:03.780 --> 00:54:05.500
to say this. This is going to sound so rude
1179
00:54:05.539 --> 00:54:08.059
coming out right away. I pull up your pictures. I
1180
00:54:08.340 --> 00:54:10.440
couldn't really find interviews to be able to do some
1181
00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:14.269
backstory on. And I go, I go, beautiful blonde girl
1182
00:54:14.469 --> 00:54:17.690
went by sorority Mackenzie. I go, I'm just going to
1183
00:54:17.710 --> 00:54:19.679
throw a bunch of questions like, do you like this?
1184
00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:22.519
Do you like that? Just in case she's not a talker.
1185
00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:25.300
You're one of the most intelligent people I've had on
1186
00:54:25.340 --> 00:54:28.360
this show. And that's no disrespect to anyone I've had before.
1187
00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:31.230
Like you are straightforward. You know what you want. You
1188
00:54:31.289 --> 00:54:33.590
know how to get those goals. And I just have
1189
00:54:33.630 --> 00:54:36.730
to say, I am so impressed speaking to you. That
1190
00:54:36.769 --> 00:54:38.449
means nothing. I'm a fucking podcaster.
1191
00:54:38.710 --> 00:54:40.679
No, I seriously appreciate it.
1192
00:54:40.989 --> 00:54:43.219
I was like, okay, we got like a pretty blonde
1193
00:54:43.260 --> 00:54:45.780
girl coming on and we'll talk. No, not at all.
1194
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:47.679
I'm going to fucking hit you up after this for
1195
00:54:47.719 --> 00:54:50.179
homesteading advice. Amazing.
1196
00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:51.219
I can't wait.
1197
00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:53.199
Ladies and gentlemen.
1198
00:54:53.219 --> 00:54:55.840
We can co-homestead.
1199
00:54:55.980 --> 00:54:56.929
All right.
1200
00:54:57.260 --> 00:54:57.530
All right.
1201
00:54:57.590 --> 00:54:59.750
Pause. I'm keeping this in the show. But my wife
1202
00:54:59.809 --> 00:55:03.010
and I just closed on an acre house. And I
1203
00:55:03.190 --> 00:55:07.630
think the idea is... full homestead type in the back.
1204
00:55:07.889 --> 00:55:08.389
You got to.
1205
00:55:08.590 --> 00:55:09.099
You got to.
1206
00:55:09.110 --> 00:55:09.949
It's real suburban.
1207
00:55:09.969 --> 00:55:12.369
It's just so picturesque. It's so nice.
1208
00:55:12.469 --> 00:55:15.289
It's healthier for you. It's just so much healthier. Grow
1209
00:55:15.309 --> 00:55:21.650
your own vegetables. Be outside. 100%. Ladies and gentlemen, Mackenzie
1210
00:55:21.670 --> 00:55:25.110
May at Real Mackenzie May. Links to everything in the
1211
00:55:25.170 --> 00:55:27.309
episode description. Mackenzie, thank you so much for coming on
1212
00:55:27.349 --> 00:55:29.869
with me. I wish you nothing but success going forward.
1213
00:55:29.929 --> 00:55:31.409
Thank you so much for having me.