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Jade Green, my guest for the evening. You know exactly
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where you can find her, at jadegreenvip. There's an E
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at the end of green, in case you were wondering.
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Links to all of her social media are in the
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I was on Going Deeper, comment, oh, I loved you
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on the show. I love you this, this and that. Anyway,
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ladies and gentlemen, my guest for the evening, Jade Green. Jade,
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thank you so much for coming on with me today.
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Oh, thank you so much for having me. Yeah, I
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am coming up to my two years of full time
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in the adult industry as an adult actress. And it's
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been awesome.
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I have to say, I always do prep for these
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interviews and I look through and I see this and that.
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I don't think we could be less relatable human beings,
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you and I. And I want to explain that in
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a good way for you. They'll look at me and go, oh,
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what a mess this fucking guy is. But, Jade, we'll
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eventually delve and get into why I think we're so different.
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Can you tell me who you were, name and social
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security number, please, before you got into the... Adult entertainment
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industry in whatever form that was. Were you always an
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adventurous person? Were you out there? Were you one of
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those people that just fucking hate it being under the
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ball of the thumb of a boss? Like, talk me
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through it. Who were you before getting into the adult
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entertainment industry?
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So a little bit of all of that, really, confidently.
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I started actually in the adult industry part time as
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a weekend warrior stripper when I was 21 in Baltimore,
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bumming my way through college like everybody else there. And
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I started when I was 21 on the block. And
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when I tell people that If they know the area,
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they look at me absolutely shocked because it's not the
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greatest area. It's unfortunately very crime-ridden. But to be honest,
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as a dancer, I have a lot of fond memories.
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And I might have seen some unfortunate things during my
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time there. But actually, I had some of the most
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authentic and real clients up there that... Like, had I
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not danced there and started somewhere else, I might not
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be here because of my love for the industry. And that's,
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that's really how much I loved my club. And I
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stayed there for a couple months in between my freshman
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and sophomore year of college. And that's where my sophomore
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and junior year of college, sorry. And that's where it
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all began. Like I was of.
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Age to dance.
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I was 21. I think back then you had to
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be 21 in certain spots in Baltimore just because the
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block is, if you're unfamiliar, it's a block, literally a
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city block of 35 strip clubs.
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It's like the Wild West of strip clubs.
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It's crazy. It is a little bit dangerous. However, like
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if you're street smart and you're there to make money,
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It's a good time for me. It was a very
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good time for a 21, 5'2 Latina Tika in Baltimore.
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So yeah, I feel like a lot of dancers could
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do well in Baltimore all year round. There's no specific season.
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So I forgot about that life and went into a
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very normal day job. in finance I worked for all
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different companies I worked for like USA Today I worked
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for the government I worked for a non-profit um and
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yeah like I hated being under the thumb of the
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boss and it was less so like I always said
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to my my um my people and my co-workers I
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love the job I just hated my bosses and a
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lot of the time half of half of if not
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more than half of my co-workers workers at.
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Most places like especially in dc.
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Where i started my career it is a fucking cutthroat
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industry and it's i guess again i'm grateful for the
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experience because once you've worked with a bunch of um
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regardless of political size sociopaths of dc because let's be
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real a lot of them are um it shades you
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ironically into jade green it shades you and I didn't
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enjoy it. I didn't like the fact that the only
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way to really make a difference in government is to
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be a politician.
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That's not a route I wanted to go with with
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my career.
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And it bothered me that I couldn't it bothered me
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that I really couldn't make a difference from the ground level,
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like in my position and like government finance and that
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people were so blah, blah, blah about the state of things.
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Instead of having the attitude of, hey, like, what can
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we do to, like, change this for the better? Or like,
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I would always write stuff off that I'd be like,
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why are we doing this? Like, why can't we reutilize
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these funds for something else? Like, I always had all
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these questions that were bigger than what I could ever
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possibly do with my capabilities given. And so I just
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gave up. And I hate that the whole attitude of like, oh,
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you have to ride something out if you hate it.
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That's a terrible fucking attitude.
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I would never. I run marathons as a hobby. I
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would never tell anybody to run marathons. If they hate it,
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that's the dumbest shit ever. I do not understand. No, seriously,
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because you can make money a million ways. It's not
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just sex work. It's not just, you know, there's so
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many ways that you can make money. So like, I
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understand that like with the economic times, like people feel desperate.
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But at the end of the day, if you could
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move to a place where you're happier, it's possible. Like
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I promise everybody, it's possible to get to like a
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job that at least you don't hate. Like even if
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you don't love it, like you'll you can find something
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you don't hate. So for me, going back in the
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adult industry was actually easy because I love the work.
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Like as I spoke very fondly of my time in Baltimore,
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of all places on the block, I loved it. I
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had such a good time. And so, oh, she wants
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to get.
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Oh, you're good.
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You go, Genevieve.
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Let me let me let me pause you there. Let
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me just ask real quick.
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Yeah.
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I interviewed a new performer, someone getting into the industry
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the other day. She's a 42 year old woman. Her
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and her husband were in the church for 40 years. Wow.
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And then just decided one day they go, we are
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going to be swingers. We've never stretched out. We've never
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done anything like that. We're going to be swingers. And
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she told me it was the church and then a
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book she read specifically that drove it to what I
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heard here is that you were driven to the adult
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entertainment industry due to the inefficiency of government. It sounded like.
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And also like my natural drive towards it.
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Yeah. Like I really liked the club environment and I
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had a high sex drive anyways. Like I hate I
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stopped calling myself a swinger because people get really the
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idea that at 21, I was in a swinger party
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and I was not, I had a bunch of friends
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that we had no idea what we were called.
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And we all just fucked each other mutually.
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Like a kind of like 10 of us fucked each other, females, males,
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like straight queer by we all fucked each other. And
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so I try to avoid swinger because what we did
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was technically swinging within the bounds of it. But like,
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I try not to say swinger anymore because people are like, Oh,
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you were in a club.
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No, we were not in a club. We were in
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Johnny Osock's living rooms.
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Sure. I just having a 14 on Wednesday before class. Sure. Sure.
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I just always I find it funny because the stigma
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coming from dudes sitting at home angry mad at porn
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stars is like, oh, it's just certainly, you know, these
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these girls just don't feel like working. They're lazy to
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get up. They go shoot their scene. They come home
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and I'm looking at it going. Well, this lady here
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is driven by the constant beat down of work at
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the time, which is what you, the listener, are feeling, too.
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And you know it. So don't be angry about it.
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Don't lash out about it. Understand that changes are possible. Now, look,
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you probably don't look like Jade here. So those changes
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might not quite be possible. But, hey, there's a different
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job out there for you, though.
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Right. Oh, my gosh. There totally is. And there's hope
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for everybody. Like, I didn't think like, I know I'm
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not old yet. I will be super hot when I'm old.
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I will rock that title. Hottest old lady ever. But, like,
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it's not like I was young either when I joined.
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And I never thought at 35, because you have to understand, like,
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the stripping thing for me and even the erotica was
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kind of a double life. Like, my husband and, like,
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you know, my friends knew that I was doing it. But, like,
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it was a thing I obviously kept private from my employers.
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And it was easy to keep private from my employers.
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Because back then, especially, like, nobody was taking... We didn't
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really have as much Facebooks. Clubs barely had a Facebook
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or Instagram presence. So it was very easy to get
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away with dancing and then just go to work and
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have like a normal day job. For me, the decision
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with porn came from me maturing and really coming into
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my own and looking at my career. And when you've
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done something for 10 years that you hate and you
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realize how much you hate it, man, is it kind
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of embarrassing? Like, and I don't mind admitting that it
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was embarrassing because I, you get told, you know, whether
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it's from society or whether it's from school or parents
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or family, like just so many out friends, outside pressures
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that tell you if you do this path, if you
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go to school or if you start a business, either way,
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if you start a business, if you go to school,
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you're going to live this dream life full of cupcakes
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and roses and everyone's going to love you and you're
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going to be rich. And if you work hard, you'll
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be happy and make it. And that's such bullshit because.
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you could be working your ass off and not making
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enough money or on the flip side, be where I
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was where, yeah, I was making my money, but I
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was miserable. And it's like, what kind of life is
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either of those? Like, I think most people, regardless of
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where they're at and who they are, should aspire, have
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decent enough money. They can pay for their living and
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to just be happy to just, to not wake up
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every day and feel like they would rather be anywhere
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else than their current life. And I, I try to
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use my platform oddly for that. Like there's a lot
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of stigma around porn stars and adult industry workers that
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We're crazy with drugs and like we party nonstop and
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like I'm a marathon runner and like I'm becoming an
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ultra I'm training for my first ultra marathon. I'm one
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of the most health conscious discipline people I know both
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in and out of the industry. And, you know, I'm
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not going to say there's nobody doing that in the industry,
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like people party everywhere and have drug issues. But that
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attitude that like, just because you're doing something doesn't mean
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you have to do it the way everyone thinks you should.
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You don't have to do a job that's certain. Like
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you can start your own business. You can find a
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different job. The point is you don't have to be
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in any fucking box. And I love spreading that message
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to my fans because I do get people that come
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back to me that are like, hey, like I started
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running because of you. Or like I had a couple
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of fans that were like, I'm starting a like photography business.
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And like, it's not going to be OF, but like
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I'm starting a photography business because of you and like
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what you said to me. And I truly believe it.
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People's happiness. I want that to be a message I spread.
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And that's such a nice message, too. I have to
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have to pause and jump real right back real quick.
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So you start dancing at 21. Was this in your nature?
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Like most people, if you go, hey, 21, I need
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to make some money on the weekends. They go, well,
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Target's hiring. You know, they do overnights, too. When you
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go to I think I'm going to take my clothes off.
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How like is that is that in your nature? If
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I met someone who knew you when you were 15
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and I said Jade went on the strip, would they go? Oh, yeah,
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that makes sense. I get that.
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I mean, and I grew up watching like Girls Next
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Door and stuff like that. And I thought and I
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feel like that so many girls of my generation did.
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And I never looked at. Playboy bunnies in a demeaning way.
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Like even as a young teenager, I've looked at them
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as bad asses. I was like, look at them. Like
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they do not give a fuck. And like, regardless of
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what people think about them, they're living the life. They're
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having a good time. They're famous.
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They're happy.
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They're pursuing their own things. I mean, look at Holly
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Madison now. Like, You know, despite some of her struggles,
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she faces a playboy bunny. Like she's an acclaimed author, podcaster.
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Like she's grown beyond what she was into these big roles.
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And you see that now, especially like the Gen Z girls.
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I'm sure I see it with, who was it? Chloe Cherry,
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where she went from porn to being a top actress.
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I loved her in Euphoria.
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She was fabulous.
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I was really happy to see that. So, you know,
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I think the stigma is dying. And back then, Yeah,
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I hate to be cocky about it, but maybe I
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was ahead of my time where it's like, I didn't
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give a shit as a teenager. And like, especially in
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college was where I really found myself. Cause, um, that
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was the first time I moved away from home at
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18 and I never went back. And, um, man, like
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I went to an all women's college knowing, knowing that
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if I went to a co-ed school, I'd probably, I
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probably wouldn't party too much at that age. And I
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probably would like have totally fucked all the boys and
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fuck their girlfriends.
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And like drama.
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Yeah. It just fucked everyone. Or me being at an
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all-girls school, even though there were definitely girls I found
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attractive and chicks I hooked up with, it was a
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different environment. There wasn't parties. It was very academic-centered and focused.
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So really, it was very rare that people would flunk
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out of the school. The first year was always the
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hardest for everybody. But then after that, most of my
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classmates just hung around for the next three, four years.
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And that was where I met All the guys like
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so we were next to. So I went to Notre
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Dame of Maryland University and the only all girls school
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in Baltimore, of course. So I don't mind saying that,
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but it is strategically next to 25 other colleges. And
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right next to it is Loyola, like connected by a library.
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So guys were there, talked to a bunch of Loyola
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guys there. And then a few blocks down was John Hopkins.
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And then on the other side was Towson and Morgan State.
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And let me tell you, that run was fantastic. Like
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that was you know what?
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Like bar hopping, bed hopping, bed hopping is.
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Where it at.
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Just be hopping around.
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You mentioned something in there that immediately made it was
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it was what I referenced earlier. One of the two
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things I referenced earlier where I went. Oh, we're on
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different paths. This woman here is a different level of
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intellect than I am. The last book I read was
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Heavier Than Heaven by Charles Cross. It's a biography on
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Kurt Cobain. And that was my sophomore year of high school. Now,
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I am 38 years old. That was the last book
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I read. I'll point that out to you. I have
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all the books and this and that. It's just, you know,
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with the Internet, my ADD, I start looking at a
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piece of paper and I go, what else could I
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be doing while absorbing this? How did you know you
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wanted to write? And what do you write? And tell
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me all about writing. And then I have questions on
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how you write and go right ahead.
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Yeah, so writing kind of served two purposes for me.
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I think the natural purpose for all writers, of course,
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is as a coping mechanism.
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Like it's so when you enjoy writing.
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Just like anything else, like just like video gaming, you're
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playing an instrument. It's really therapeutic to just like God,
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I feel so cheesy saying this because I'm not I'm
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always such a happy presenting person. But honestly, like I
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love crying over my laptop sometimes. Sometimes I just or
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like angrily doing at my laptop and just recalling a
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situation inspiring me to write some shit about someone I
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don't like as a fictional character in my book. And
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it's so much better than like, I see people all
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the time throwing fits on like X and Instagram, which
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like some are valid, valid crash outs exist. But like,
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there's so many people who are just like being overly emotional,
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being overly dramatic for no fucking reason other than to
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get engagement.
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And I don't really like that.
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Like, I like to sit with my emotions when I'm
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feeling them because.
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It helps me heal.
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Like, that's how I get over them is I just
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sit with them alone and process them and think about them,
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write them down. And it's almost like cathartic where I
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write something down and I feel like, okay, I never
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have to remember that again.
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Like how cool is that?
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That I literally can forget that ever existed because in
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the back of my mind, like, obviously I remember something,
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but like, there's no pressure if that makes any sense
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to me. To remember it.
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And so, like, that feels good for me to just.
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Like, bury all my good and bad memories so I
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can make room. I feel like by doing that, I
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make room for more. Gotta make room for more processing. So, like,
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just gotta put my other stuff, historic archive it in
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a fictional version and then move on to the next chapter.
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And I started.
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I actually hated writing. What was so funny was like,
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I was not the best writer in college, but like
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that kind of motivated me to get good at writing
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was like, I got my first like C-back ever on
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an essay in like English or something. I think it
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was literature. I was so fucking pissed. Like that actually
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inspired me to get better at writing. And then I
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was writing on LinkedIn and like Medium and stuff like that.
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Just little articles about business and finance. Nothing exciting. Very boring,
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dry reads. And then around 25, what really triggered it
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was like I went on deployment with Red Cross. And
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after meeting all these people from other places, like not
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just my college of orgies and fun, fun party streamers,
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I come to realize like my sexual experiences are not normal.
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And I was like, I need like I need to
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write this down. Like I absolutely because I feel like
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nobody would believe it anyways. So I might as well
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do it in fiction form. And I need to just like. Yeah,
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just recall everything fondly so that, you know, when I'm
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older and, you know, my friends, you know, want to
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laugh and joke about something. I'm still friends with so
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many characters that the book has in it, like based
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on like they're not real life characters, but people that
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are based off of like the characters are based off
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of real life people. And like, for me, it's a
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really cool way to honor people I love, but then also, yeah,
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like kind of flex about sexuality, but also inspire others
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again to accept their own sexuality, but like, it's okay
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to be a little weird in your sexuality. It's okay
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to be awkward and fumble the ball sometimes, but also, yeah,
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like if you want to have an orgy or a threesome,
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no shame in that. Like for me, that was always
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the rest. Like me and my friends loved fucking each other.
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So like, God, I was just so excited to get
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like two guys and a group of people. That was
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my favorite end of the week treat. Five guys, literally.
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Let me plug it for you. The book series is
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Disorderly Conduct. I'm going to put a link to it
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in the episode description so people can check it out.
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I am I'm you're it's funny you're like laughing through
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this and I'm having profound moments where I'm like holy
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shit if you do write something down you'll never forget
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it again you always forget stuff and then you're like
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people hate their daydreams.
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Job.
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And I go, oh my God, I do, Jade. I
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do hate my fucking day job. So you're laughing and
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I think you've changed my life. I don't know for
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the better or for the worse, but we will see
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where it comes out to. I literally have a question
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about writing.
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How.
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Do you stretch it and not make it feel like
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a stretch? Here's what I would write. Jade and Matt
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sat down for an interview. They talked about our book
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for a while. Then they talked about fucking guys from Loyola.
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They had a really nice interview. I can't do. It
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was a Monday afternoon at 6 p.m. East Coast time
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when Jade sat down. How do you learn to do that?
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That sounds dumb to say, but how do you learn
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to do that?
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A combination of things like weirdly reading, like reading a
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lot and reading a lot of fiction. Like if you
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want to reading a lot of any, any genre you
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want to write for is such a good thing to
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do because it gives you the idea of like style
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flow themes, like how people are structuring things. this book
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because it's a different art form unlike any other art
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form books are the longest to consume you can't just
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you know and even audiobooks my audiobook is four and
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a half yeah yeah it's like four hours and like
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50 minutes i think more than that more than four
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and a half hours like that's a long ass time
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compared to a two-hour movie or a 10-minute short clip
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like It's, it is really hard to like get that together.
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For me, what helped was approaching it in like outlining it,
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but then also like uh, seeing how like other authors
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structured their, their plot and their climax. Cause I think
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it's so important that if you're going to write a fiction,
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you have to have a solid enough plot and subplot
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to make sure that the reader, like what the hell
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is the reader going to get from this? And as
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I said, my main goal is to inspire people to
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embrace their sexuality.
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Um, very much so. Like, I hope people like put.
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My book down. They're like, wow like it's really it's
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not weird nothing I do is weird like nobody should
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feel fucking weird about the things that they do or
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even the weird thoughts they have about sexuality like sometimes
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you know like there's a part in the book where
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it's supposed to be satire there's a part in the
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book where Ari hits on this little freshman she's like
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a senior and he's like a little freshman in college
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and she has no idea but like she like learns
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he's 18 and she's like coughing on her blood. She's like, Oh,
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like you're 18. Like, and she's like 21. And she's
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just like, even though that's not a huge age gap,
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I saw 18 year olds all the time at 21,
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but I kind of wanted to make up the satire
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of like, you know, the older guy or older girl
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and younger guy where it's like, she's freaking out over
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like three years younger. But like that scene is meant
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to make you roll your eyes at her and be like, Oh,
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come on. You know, You immature 21 year old who
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thinks that an 18 year old is not younger than you.
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Shut the fuck up. So I tried to make it
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both relatable, but also like you look at this character
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and you're meant to feel at times like super turned on.
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And then at some points really annoyed with her. Like,
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why is she doing these certain things? um and yeah
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for me like it's not just the scenery because sometimes
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I think like fiction authors can go a little bit
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deep into your right setting and scenery I like to
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get a lot of the feelings out there and um
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not just like you know our basic happy sad but
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also with like the sexual emotes like how um Ari
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gets very, very overjoyed. She is so thrilled to get banged. Like, just, like, bliss. Just, like,
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21-year-old young ass. I mean, I still feel that way. But, like, yeah,
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when you're first getting introduced to all that stuff, just the, like,
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fireworks and, like, butterflies, like... this is so much fun
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everybody tastes and smells delicious like just going into that
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in depth like how is she feeling about this and
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like why is she excited what psych like what is
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tantalizing her and not just the oh the room was
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dimly lit and he was spanking her like I feel like.
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Sure right right that's how I would describe it though
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I'd be like there wasn't a lot of light on
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and she was getting spanked so I get your point
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though I took it's Wow. God damn. It goes so much.
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If you've ever read a really good sex scene. So
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this is a stupid example. But my first ever erotica
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I read was a sci fi about paleontologists traveling back
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to watch dinosaurs fuck for their study.
482
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And then they fuck, too.
483
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Anyways, so I read this and let me tell you,
484
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I'm never going to forget that book because the sex
485
00:24:47.069 --> 00:24:50.700
scenes were just like buried that like a little bit
486
00:24:50.740 --> 00:24:53.960
of feely and like how are people react? How are
487
00:24:53.980 --> 00:24:56.980
the people reacting to the dinosaurs and the orgies? But
488
00:24:57.000 --> 00:25:00.539
like that over detail of like in a person's mind
489
00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:03.599
to me makes it interesting. Like and I noticed my
490
00:25:03.660 --> 00:25:06.160
readers appreciate it. They're like, wow, like you did a
491
00:25:06.180 --> 00:25:10.390
good job capturing the feeling of like Getting turned on
492
00:25:10.430 --> 00:25:12.230
and that build up, that build up, that build up
493
00:25:12.289 --> 00:25:16.190
and then like New Year's Eve. Yeah.
494
00:25:18.309 --> 00:25:22.099
So it almost did you do this when writing your books,
495
00:25:22.180 --> 00:25:26.559
the disorderly conduct books, were you. Was the whole. OK.
496
00:25:26.619 --> 00:25:27.059
All right.
497
00:25:27.200 --> 00:25:29.380
I understand what you wanted to accomplish. And I understand
498
00:25:29.420 --> 00:25:31.579
just writing anything is a feat in and of itself
499
00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:33.740
and being able to finish it and whatever. But were
500
00:25:33.819 --> 00:25:37.720
you kind of vicariously living through the things that were
501
00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:40.279
true in the story, but then also maybe fantasizing on
502
00:25:40.339 --> 00:25:43.200
how it could have been different? So not in a
503
00:25:43.259 --> 00:25:46.400
negative way whatsoever. It was a selfish thing for you
504
00:25:46.500 --> 00:25:48.240
to an extent where you're like, I need to do
505
00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:49.700
it this way. I need to feel it this way.
506
00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:52.950
And then the world enjoyed it as well. And you're like, oh, shit,
507
00:25:53.029 --> 00:25:54.309
double win there. Right.
508
00:25:54.779 --> 00:25:55.019
Yeah.
509
00:25:55.859 --> 00:26:00.000
So when you're in it, do you ever. Do you
510
00:26:00.059 --> 00:26:03.440
ever lose the fantasy halfway through writing? Has it ever
511
00:26:03.549 --> 00:26:08.069
fallen off where you go? Oh, no, it's just not working.
512
00:26:09.329 --> 00:26:12.150
It does happen because you have to remember, like, even
513
00:26:12.190 --> 00:26:14.529
though it is a passion project for sure, like this
514
00:26:14.609 --> 00:26:18.210
is totally my passion project. I do want to make
515
00:26:18.250 --> 00:26:21.529
it palatable to readers like me. I don't want it
516
00:26:21.589 --> 00:26:24.390
to be very redundant because like there were periods in
517
00:26:24.430 --> 00:26:27.250
my life where like, even though I'm queer, I was
518
00:26:27.289 --> 00:26:29.359
just fucking with guys for a while, like not out
519
00:26:29.390 --> 00:26:33.579
of choice, out of like, no women wanted to have
520
00:26:33.619 --> 00:26:36.460
sex with me at that point at that two year span.
521
00:26:36.539 --> 00:26:38.619
And it's like little awkward things like that.
522
00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:41.039
You know, you have to change to keep the fantasy.
523
00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:44.359
Like there's ways to keep that fantasy going in the story.
524
00:26:45.309 --> 00:26:50.099
that isn't real life, but isn't in such a tropey way. Because, like,
525
00:26:50.220 --> 00:26:52.279
you look at books like Fifty Shades of Grey, and
526
00:26:52.579 --> 00:26:55.000
I can't stand that book because I feel like every
527
00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:57.940
time they get into a stimulation scene, they're trying to
528
00:26:57.960 --> 00:26:59.880
stimulate their reader, it feels like.
529
00:27:00.309 --> 00:27:02.130
Look at this red room. Look at these whips.
530
00:27:02.430 --> 00:27:03.950
Bang, bang, bang. Ugh.
531
00:27:04.049 --> 00:27:07.230
Like, it's just like, I can't, like, how.
532
00:27:07.130 --> 00:27:10.670
Does she feel? Like, and then, I hate the way
533
00:27:10.690 --> 00:27:13.279
she writes about feelings, because in her book, she makes
534
00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:15.890
the girl's Her feelings manifest.
535
00:27:15.910 --> 00:27:17.410
He calls it as the little goddess.
536
00:27:17.630 --> 00:27:22.900
And I'm like... I'm like, nobody talks to themselves like that.
537
00:27:22.980 --> 00:27:25.299
Nobody's like, I have a little goddess in my head
538
00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:26.740
that's wet as fuck.
539
00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:28.079
Wording everywhere.
540
00:27:28.740 --> 00:27:33.089
Like, what? Like, oh, girl, stop. And then euphemisms. So
541
00:27:33.289 --> 00:27:34.829
one thing about my book a lot of people will
542
00:27:34.869 --> 00:27:36.990
notice right away is Ari says penis.
543
00:27:37.269 --> 00:27:39.210
She says cock. She says dick.
544
00:27:39.470 --> 00:27:44.160
She says vagina and pussy because... Like, why not? Like,
545
00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:47.380
those are the anatomically correct phrases. Like, one thing that
546
00:27:47.420 --> 00:27:50.160
always pissed me off about a lot of erotica was, like,
547
00:27:50.920 --> 00:27:54.019
why are we acting like we can't say cock?
548
00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:55.160
Like, it's a cock.
549
00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:56.089
What else is it?
550
00:27:56.109 --> 00:27:56.849
A sword?
551
00:27:56.940 --> 00:27:59.089
Oh, come on. Like, stop that.
552
00:27:59.490 --> 00:28:01.630
If we can't address what it is, you're not doing
553
00:28:01.670 --> 00:28:03.890
erotic literature, then. Like, you have to be able to
554
00:28:03.990 --> 00:28:05.500
do these things if you want to.
555
00:28:05.509 --> 00:28:07.809
He took his sword out of his sheath. Like, was
556
00:28:07.869 --> 00:28:10.210
it a penis, though? What was it?
557
00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:13.960
See, but then I'd write it a little more bluntly.
558
00:28:14.059 --> 00:28:17.289
I'd be like, Jeff had a fat cock. And people
559
00:28:17.309 --> 00:28:19.910
would go, I'm turned off by this because this man
560
00:28:19.970 --> 00:28:21.710
is writing about fat cocks all day.
561
00:28:21.730 --> 00:28:23.150
Yeah, I'd love that. I'd read that.
562
00:28:23.349 --> 00:28:24.690
Author Jay Green would read that.
563
00:28:25.049 --> 00:28:28.349
I would read that over stupid Fifty Shades of Grey.
564
00:28:29.910 --> 00:28:33.450
Jade, talk me through then getting back in and moving
565
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:38.039
into mainstream production. That is, again, another jump, another thing, right?
566
00:28:38.380 --> 00:28:43.140
When you're dancing, there's almost an aspect of separation. When
567
00:28:43.180 --> 00:28:46.660
you're writing, there's an extreme version of separation. And then
568
00:28:46.700 --> 00:28:49.359
when you're in mainstream, you're standing nude in front of
569
00:28:49.420 --> 00:28:51.259
a whole bunch of people and they go, time to fuck, Jade.
570
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:55.180
What is that transition like for you? Do you remember
571
00:28:55.220 --> 00:29:00.430
what your first scene was, if it was positive? You know,
572
00:29:00.470 --> 00:29:02.650
how did you feel going into that? What emotions were
573
00:29:02.670 --> 00:29:04.869
you feeling? Was there nerves or anxiety? Because it sounds
574
00:29:04.890 --> 00:29:06.809
like you're a very sure of yourself person. You were
575
00:29:06.849 --> 00:29:08.329
ready to jump into this and it doesn't sound like
576
00:29:08.349 --> 00:29:11.829
you would jump in on a whim. So was there
577
00:29:12.329 --> 00:29:14.890
total comfort or was there a little bit like, oh, fuck,
578
00:29:14.910 --> 00:29:16.759
what am I what am I doing? Let's just grip
579
00:29:16.799 --> 00:29:18.839
our teeth and get this. And then maybe you loved it.
580
00:29:18.900 --> 00:29:19.519
You know, who knows?
581
00:29:20.049 --> 00:29:22.799
So it was confidence, but also apprehension.
582
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:26.099
And I still, I think this is just the way
583
00:29:26.220 --> 00:29:29.180
I am, both as an author and an actress, is
584
00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:31.579
I always worry, like, I hope the other person finds
585
00:29:31.619 --> 00:29:37.490
me attractive and, likes how I have sex. I still
586
00:29:37.529 --> 00:29:39.690
get that way because I don't know. It's like they're
587
00:29:39.730 --> 00:29:42.170
my co-workers. So I want to make sure if I
588
00:29:42.210 --> 00:29:44.509
was doing it, same with writing. I hope every one
589
00:29:44.549 --> 00:29:47.380
of my readers loves my book. Of course, I want
590
00:29:47.410 --> 00:29:50.660
the people I work with to be happy always. That's
591
00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:53.900
just my personality. And so that was a big thing.
592
00:29:54.000 --> 00:30:02.160
It's like, I hope the co-talent thinks I'm hot. But
593
00:30:02.259 --> 00:30:06.950
it's gotten a lot easier. And especially since I've been...
594
00:30:07.710 --> 00:30:10.509
rock solid about my boundaries. Like I think if I
595
00:30:10.549 --> 00:30:13.950
would have joined the industry 10 years ago, who knows? Like,
596
00:30:13.970 --> 00:30:16.589
I think I was a lot more insecure, especially like
597
00:30:16.630 --> 00:30:19.210
doing pageants and cheerleading and stuff like that. Like I
598
00:30:19.250 --> 00:30:22.579
was just so I was high, strong being in those environments.
599
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:25.140
So I'm not sure how I would have reacted. I
600
00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:28.460
might've been more likely to influence. Now I always want
601
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:30.819
to please people, but I say within reason and boundaries,
602
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:32.960
I'm not a people pleaser. Like the moment someone crosses
603
00:30:32.980 --> 00:30:35.869
my boundaries, I'm not a people pleaser. I'm very polite
604
00:30:35.930 --> 00:30:39.279
to them. I'll always be cordial to people, like, in person.
605
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:43.079
But I discontinue communication with them. I'm very, like, cut
606
00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:47.440
and dry. Like, it's not worth me getting upset about.
607
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:50.819
But it's also not me worth, like, compromising my values.
608
00:30:50.900 --> 00:30:54.789
And I get a lot of pushback, especially for certain things. Like,
609
00:30:54.809 --> 00:30:58.009
there are certain genres of porn I can't do because
610
00:30:58.029 --> 00:31:03.789
I'm a marathon runner and about to be an ultra runner. And... Yeah. Yeah.
611
00:31:04.309 --> 00:31:05.849
Like it makes us so anal.
612
00:31:07.269 --> 00:31:09.849
I was going to because trust me, we're going to
613
00:31:09.869 --> 00:31:11.809
get into the marathon running, as you can tell by
614
00:31:11.849 --> 00:31:14.069
my chubby face. I'm definitely in good shape.
615
00:31:14.089 --> 00:31:16.130
You're totally like Olympic marathon runner, Matt.
616
00:31:16.150 --> 00:31:17.529
That's how I feel.
617
00:31:17.750 --> 00:31:19.819
You're doing my next one with me. Remember, you said
618
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:20.130
you were.
619
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:22.440
People go, you're a little bit more of a pale
620
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:25.660
the rock. And I go, yeah, I see it. I understand.
621
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:29.539
I get it. But OK, so there are limitations that
622
00:31:29.619 --> 00:31:32.839
now say you weren't a marathon runner. Does any of
623
00:31:32.900 --> 00:31:36.140
that stuff engage? Would you be interested in doing it
624
00:31:36.180 --> 00:31:38.329
if it wasn't going to interrupt your life cycle?
625
00:31:38.650 --> 00:31:41.710
Yes. And I think that it stresses me out so
626
00:31:41.750 --> 00:31:44.509
much because the problem is. So to give you some insight,
627
00:31:45.089 --> 00:31:49.890
I burn twenty five hundred to thirty five hundred calories
628
00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:56.339
a day. I'm anemic. I'm vegetarian. So I can't just
629
00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:01.240
like not eat either. Like the fasting issues, stuff like that.
630
00:32:01.670 --> 00:32:03.789
And like the problem is the one time I did
631
00:32:03.869 --> 00:32:07.009
fortunately do it once successfully for mainstream.
632
00:32:07.089 --> 00:32:07.819
And then I did it.
633
00:32:07.890 --> 00:32:10.559
Well, before that, I did it successfully for my own site.
634
00:32:10.579 --> 00:32:13.099
And so I at least own my own film. But
635
00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:14.920
it was like I had to wait until I was
636
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:18.740
off season because I can't. There's no fucking way with
637
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:22.589
how fast I burn through electrolytes and calories that I
638
00:32:22.750 --> 00:32:24.630
cannot eat for the amount of time.
639
00:32:24.670 --> 00:32:26.769
So I tell my fans, I'm like, give me a break.
640
00:32:26.809 --> 00:32:29.369
Like, you know, like I've done anal play in the past,
641
00:32:29.410 --> 00:32:31.069
like and I do enjoy some of it. But it's
642
00:32:31.109 --> 00:32:32.900
like one of those things where it's like, trust me,
643
00:32:33.019 --> 00:32:35.660
if I can eat do what I needed to do
644
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:39.160
for it and do my sport, I would so do it. Um,
645
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:41.500
and same with, so impact play is kind of like
646
00:32:41.539 --> 00:32:44.339
that for me, but fortunately I'm a little trooper. Um,
647
00:32:45.140 --> 00:32:49.130
so my superpower is probably because of my pain tolerance.
648
00:32:49.190 --> 00:32:53.730
Like you can beat the living F out of my ass.
649
00:32:54.210 --> 00:32:57.029
And like, it is so much fun. Oh my God. Yeah.
650
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:03.029
I haven't asked. So like I've done like really intense
651
00:33:03.069 --> 00:33:05.829
spanking shoes and stuff. What sucks about that, though, is again,
652
00:33:05.890 --> 00:33:08.839
like I got to watch it with like other mainstream shoes.
653
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:10.960
And then not only that, but like if I'm training, I.
654
00:33:11.779 --> 00:33:13.900
Really shouldn't do those because if I'm all bruised up,
655
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:16.400
it's not going to hurt in the moment. But muscle dump,
656
00:33:16.569 --> 00:33:19.569
delayed onset muscle soreness. same thing that happens to long
657
00:33:19.589 --> 00:33:23.069
distance runners with our other muscles that happens with ass
658
00:33:23.089 --> 00:33:26.150
spanking so like I would definitely be super sore after
659
00:33:26.170 --> 00:33:29.069
and I love those scenes like that especially like I
660
00:33:29.450 --> 00:33:31.890
would love to do another scene where like I just
661
00:33:31.910 --> 00:33:36.089
get my ass spanked and fucked but gotta wait gotta
662
00:33:36.109 --> 00:33:39.170
wait until after I have my next race July 11th
663
00:33:39.329 --> 00:33:41.920
and then I can have a little bit more fun there.
664
00:33:41.650 --> 00:33:45.200
So I have to ask and there's no wrong answer
665
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:48.180
with this at all If I were going to pay
666
00:33:48.220 --> 00:33:52.420
you the same dollar amount for either work running and
667
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:56.230
marathoning and staying in shape and fit and this and
668
00:33:56.269 --> 00:33:59.390
that or doing porn or doing whatever form it is
669
00:33:59.430 --> 00:34:02.279
of the adult entertainment industry, which would you pick right now?
670
00:34:02.819 --> 00:34:06.759
Oh, definitely porn because there's more longevity in it. I
671
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:10.320
love running, but like I can break my leg next
672
00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:13.710
year and then never run again. Like porn is one
673
00:34:13.750 --> 00:34:15.429
of those things where it's like, as long as you're,
674
00:34:15.590 --> 00:34:18.269
as I said, stay in your boundaries, know your body.
675
00:34:18.809 --> 00:34:20.710
You don't have to worry about those injuries. Like I
676
00:34:20.769 --> 00:34:22.949
know for a fact that like anal is really stressful
677
00:34:22.969 --> 00:34:24.949
on my body, so I don't do it. And I
678
00:34:24.989 --> 00:34:27.679
know that, yeah, like impact like can be depending on
679
00:34:27.699 --> 00:34:30.179
like the context and what it is. So I just
680
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:33.570
don't do it. And yeah, like, because I keep those
681
00:34:33.659 --> 00:34:36.460
boundaries really strong, like, I plan on staying in the
682
00:34:36.500 --> 00:34:38.699
industry for like, at least five to 10 years paid.
683
00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:41.539
And like, I'm confident that like, you know, nothing's gonna
684
00:34:41.579 --> 00:34:44.300
happen within that time that's gonna make me want to leave.
685
00:34:44.500 --> 00:34:47.179
And after that, I want to start my own studio,
686
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:50.280
or maybe who knows, be a director, producer for a
687
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:52.530
studio that would be incredible.
688
00:34:54.369 --> 00:34:56.170
So I definitely I want to get into that what
689
00:34:56.190 --> 00:34:58.050
the future holds and where you want to where you
690
00:34:58.070 --> 00:35:00.519
want to build it. But For right now, is there
691
00:35:00.699 --> 00:35:03.099
anything else that you're limited in doing or is there
692
00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:06.679
a type of scene or something where you go? Maybe
693
00:35:06.739 --> 00:35:08.940
not from the running, maybe from anything. Maybe you just
694
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:10.949
own confidence. You want to work your way up to it.
695
00:35:10.989 --> 00:35:13.670
Is there anything you're targeting right now that's like, oh,
696
00:35:13.730 --> 00:35:16.769
I really want to do more of this, whether it's acting,
697
00:35:16.809 --> 00:35:20.349
maybe even or it's. gangbangs. I know they don't seem
698
00:35:20.369 --> 00:35:22.489
like they should be in the same category, but for
699
00:35:22.530 --> 00:35:26.980
some reason in our industry, they are. So, what in
700
00:35:27.019 --> 00:35:29.260
your industry? Not my industry. I'm a podcaster. I just
701
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:31.579
sit on my ass. You guys are in the trenches, okay?
702
00:35:32.739 --> 00:35:36.289
But is there any type of thing that is still...
703
00:35:36.690 --> 00:35:39.449
On your not bucket list. That sounds terrible, too. But
704
00:35:39.469 --> 00:35:40.369
you understand what I'm saying.
705
00:35:40.389 --> 00:35:41.210
My bucket list.
706
00:35:41.250 --> 00:35:44.250
Your bucket list. That's a that's solid. I have heard
707
00:35:44.289 --> 00:35:46.449
that a million times before. And now that I sit here,
708
00:35:46.489 --> 00:35:47.969
I was like, you're going to give her credit for
709
00:35:48.030 --> 00:35:50.389
coming up with that. You genius. Take it.
710
00:35:50.389 --> 00:35:54.349
I would absolutely love to do stuff with like Pintide.
711
00:35:54.530 --> 00:35:55.550
And I met them at AVN.
712
00:35:57.059 --> 00:35:59.079
Um, Kentide I'd like to work with.
713
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:01.579
Um, I, I would totally love to do like something
714
00:36:01.619 --> 00:36:04.719
with kink and, and it's nice. My next tour is
715
00:36:04.739 --> 00:36:07.530
like perfectly time where I don't have any like immediate
716
00:36:07.570 --> 00:36:10.949
races after this one. So like my next race is
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00:36:11.010 --> 00:36:14.449
July 7th. july 11th and then i go on tour
718
00:36:14.469 --> 00:36:16.650
in august which is great because like my next race
719
00:36:16.710 --> 00:36:19.039
after that's not till december so that's one of those
720
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:21.639
windows where like yeah i gotta get like all the
721
00:36:21.699 --> 00:36:25.000
really hardcore stuff out of the way utilize my endurance
722
00:36:25.059 --> 00:36:27.420
while i have it in between seasons and i still
723
00:36:27.460 --> 00:36:30.119
run i still work out but not nearly it's just
724
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:33.940
not the same level that when i'm actually in training
725
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:38.820
for an event it's more like maintenance um and Yeah, like,
726
00:36:39.099 --> 00:36:42.179
I would love to do a feature film. Like, you know,
727
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:44.909
whether it be, like, a supporting role. Like, that would
728
00:36:44.929 --> 00:36:47.389
be so cool just to, like, have something in a
729
00:36:47.429 --> 00:36:49.090
feature film and fix it.
730
00:36:49.250 --> 00:36:51.989
So, any of those would be incredible.
731
00:36:52.670 --> 00:36:55.389
How did you initially start running? Were you always just
732
00:36:55.469 --> 00:36:57.530
in shape and that's what you did? Do you like
733
00:36:57.610 --> 00:37:01.110
the actual act of running or do you like the
734
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:04.300
result you get from it? Because while I'm running, I
735
00:37:04.380 --> 00:37:05.239
fucking hate it.
736
00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:06.119
But, like.
737
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:09.539
you know, you know, it's healthy for you. You know,
738
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:13.739
you feel better when the endorphins start flowing and everything afterwards. What,
739
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:16.469
what is it about running? And I, no offense to you.
740
00:37:16.489 --> 00:37:18.829
I have a lot of friends who are runners. I
741
00:37:18.849 --> 00:37:20.949
always hit when someone's like, I'm a runner. I go,
742
00:37:20.969 --> 00:37:23.090
I don't know what you do with your fucking mind
743
00:37:23.250 --> 00:37:25.409
for the next hour. Cause it seems like you're just
744
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:29.219
move forward, move forward. I have been at a gym.
745
00:37:30.429 --> 00:37:34.789
In a theater cardio room, okay, on a treadmill with
746
00:37:34.849 --> 00:37:38.090
a theater, like a movie was playing that I was
747
00:37:38.190 --> 00:37:41.309
interested in reading the captions, but I was also listening
748
00:37:41.369 --> 00:37:44.409
to a podcast and engaging with that. And I walked
749
00:37:44.449 --> 00:37:46.860
for about 20 minutes and I not walk, you know,
750
00:37:46.969 --> 00:37:50.300
moderate pace. And I just went, I couldn't be more
751
00:37:50.380 --> 00:37:53.559
bored in my life than where I am currently right
752
00:37:53.659 --> 00:37:55.119
now doing all of this.
753
00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:56.510
You're not a runner.
754
00:37:56.530 --> 00:37:57.210
That's OK.
755
00:37:57.230 --> 00:37:57.650
You're not.
756
00:37:57.690 --> 00:38:00.530
You're a different sportsman. You're a different type of sportsman.
757
00:38:00.570 --> 00:38:02.030
That's perfectly OK.
758
00:38:02.150 --> 00:38:04.760
I'll move my legs all day. You want to play basketball,
759
00:38:04.820 --> 00:38:07.119
go up and down the court. Like it's not a
760
00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:10.820
movement issue. It is exactly that. It's a runner. How
761
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:12.860
did you know you were a runner? When did you
762
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:16.019
know you were a runner? And. How long do you
763
00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:18.719
want to be a runner your whole life until, you know,
764
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:21.110
knock on wood, God forbid those knees or what are
765
00:38:21.150 --> 00:38:23.469
we what are we talking about? How did you develop
766
00:38:23.510 --> 00:38:26.389
this love? Runners blow my mind more than porn stars do.
767
00:38:26.429 --> 00:38:27.829
If you're a girl who goes, I like being in
768
00:38:27.869 --> 00:38:30.570
the middle of a gangbang. I go, I get that.
769
00:38:30.889 --> 00:38:32.989
If you're a girl who goes, I really like running.
770
00:38:33.050 --> 00:38:35.500
I go, oh, sweetie, what's wrong with you? What do
771
00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:42.380
you mean? Like, oh, so how'd you get into it?
772
00:38:42.420 --> 00:38:43.880
How did it become your thing?
773
00:38:44.630 --> 00:38:48.389
So it was really interesting. Like, I never really did
774
00:38:48.409 --> 00:38:50.780
sports in high school. I was a very artsy kid.
775
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:54.719
And in college, like, it sucks. Like, my school didn't
776
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:58.400
have a dance team. I started our first cheerleading squad,
777
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:00.780
which is cool, because I did that on the side.
778
00:39:01.219 --> 00:39:04.139
And then years later was a CAPS cheerleader. But It
779
00:39:04.179 --> 00:39:06.889
was one season. I had a good time doing it.
780
00:39:07.059 --> 00:39:09.860
It wasn't I was more into pageants. I was definitely
781
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:14.139
a crazy for 10 years. I like was nuts with
782
00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:19.469
pageants from like 16 to 26. And yeah, like around
783
00:39:19.510 --> 00:39:22.070
that time, I kind of felt like a little bit
784
00:39:22.190 --> 00:39:26.849
inadequate without my dance and like without any like, even
785
00:39:26.889 --> 00:39:28.929
though we did cheerleading, it wasn't at the level I
786
00:39:28.969 --> 00:39:31.300
was used to because I was doing high school cheerleading
787
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:33.440
so I was like man like I need to pick
788
00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:36.550
up a new hobby basically and so like especially with
789
00:39:36.610 --> 00:39:40.610
pageants they really encouraged us to like find causes you
790
00:39:40.730 --> 00:39:43.849
love to volunteer for go find hobbies like you need
791
00:39:43.889 --> 00:39:46.570
to be a well-rounded contestant or else they're not going
792
00:39:46.590 --> 00:39:49.199
to pick you so there was always that like pressure
793
00:39:49.460 --> 00:39:52.000
it's really weird it was it felt like very uh
794
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:56.440
very uh eastern civilization of like pick what you want
795
00:39:56.460 --> 00:39:59.460
to do now get really good at it and it's like.
796
00:39:59.420 --> 00:40:04.679
Okay all right jade let's figure out your 50 year plan.
797
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:07.639
Yeah exactly no they were very and pageants were like
798
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:11.719
that where like it wasn't uncommon for interviewers to be
799
00:40:11.739 --> 00:40:14.059
like where do you see yourself in 10 20 years
800
00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:20.539
and it's like i'm 18 what the fuck Um, so
801
00:40:20.579 --> 00:40:22.780
you learn that like you, you know, you either you
802
00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:25.409
learn it on your own or through pageant friends or
803
00:40:25.429 --> 00:40:28.170
through coaches in the industry, you learn it through directors
804
00:40:28.269 --> 00:40:31.710
to like, it's just like porn as you're in it longer,
805
00:40:31.750 --> 00:40:34.309
you definitely learn some things that really help you along
806
00:40:34.329 --> 00:40:37.739
the way. And running was one of those things where like,
807
00:40:38.389 --> 00:40:41.889
I started it and like, it just became such an
808
00:40:41.949 --> 00:40:46.969
addiction and it made me feel so like empowered and
809
00:40:47.030 --> 00:40:49.710
kind of like, I hate saying this because this was
810
00:40:49.769 --> 00:40:52.760
my personality in pageants. It's not my personality in porn.
811
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:56.059
I'm so like collaborative because I love fucking everyone, but
812
00:40:56.099 --> 00:41:00.199
I was very hyper competitive in pageants where like cutthroat,
813
00:41:00.420 --> 00:41:02.530
because I mean, they made it that way. Like you
814
00:41:02.610 --> 00:41:06.590
had to be to survive. And, um, I loved being
815
00:41:06.710 --> 00:41:10.630
intimidating to the other girls, especially when I started running marathons.
816
00:41:10.809 --> 00:41:13.130
I would love showing up to a pageant and being.
817
00:41:12.929 --> 00:41:18.909
Like, hey girls, how are you? Oh, you're working with
818
00:41:18.969 --> 00:41:19.610
the trainer?
819
00:41:19.630 --> 00:41:24.130
I'm working with the trainer too, but I'm doing marathons now.
820
00:41:24.250 --> 00:41:30.820
Just that obnoxious type of type of bitch I was
821
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:33.539
very like I wanted that money man like I was
822
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:36.329
out for it I wanted that scholarship money and I
823
00:41:36.409 --> 00:41:38.929
eventually like paid for my college with pageant stuff so
824
00:41:38.969 --> 00:41:41.550
like running was kind of the thing that kept me
825
00:41:41.590 --> 00:41:45.000
very like grounded and like centered And it was so
826
00:41:45.099 --> 00:41:47.360
ironic I was like that because my running community was
827
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:50.320
never like that. Like people in the running community are hippies, man.
828
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:54.429
Like they're so chill and a lot of them aren't competitive.
829
00:41:54.469 --> 00:41:58.210
Like non-elite people are pretty chill. And even elites are
830
00:41:58.269 --> 00:42:01.429
pretty chill, especially towards us non-elites. So like the fact
831
00:42:01.489 --> 00:42:03.769
that that was even a part of my personality for
832
00:42:03.789 --> 00:42:05.550
a brief time, I like look back at it and
833
00:42:05.570 --> 00:42:08.619
I'm like, ew, I hate that pageants brought that out
834
00:42:08.659 --> 00:42:08.820
of me.
835
00:42:09.500 --> 00:42:11.639
Well, let me ask you this, because I've had so
836
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:14.019
many different conversations with people who started in so many
837
00:42:14.059 --> 00:42:17.340
different ways. But what I always notice, and again, I'm
838
00:42:17.380 --> 00:42:21.260
talking about online when there's not like a giant cancellation
839
00:42:21.300 --> 00:42:25.050
going on or something along those lines. But the females
840
00:42:25.610 --> 00:42:29.110
in this community are so collaborative and friendly and this
841
00:42:29.150 --> 00:42:31.929
and that. And then you hear horror stories about strip clubs,
842
00:42:32.309 --> 00:42:34.469
about girls being competitive. That's true.
843
00:42:34.489 --> 00:42:35.949
Strip clubs were a little bit like that.
844
00:42:35.989 --> 00:42:39.010
I mean, in Baltimore, especially. But I was always... I
845
00:42:39.050 --> 00:42:41.139
was a very taken up girl. I was always in
846
00:42:41.179 --> 00:42:44.199
the back. I was always busy, so I barely noticed.
847
00:42:45.500 --> 00:42:48.260
I was going to say, were you competitive in that aspect?
848
00:42:48.530 --> 00:42:49.389
I didn't need to be.
849
00:42:49.750 --> 00:42:53.150
Little 21-year-old hottie me, like those guys would just come
850
00:42:53.269 --> 00:42:54.730
in and be like, oh, I'm taking her.
851
00:42:56.250 --> 00:42:58.710
Jade's never been to the front of the club she's
852
00:42:58.750 --> 00:42:59.829
just goes in and.
853
00:43:00.010 --> 00:43:03.670
Out of the back the owner was like well and
854
00:43:03.690 --> 00:43:06.460
the owner here's some like key that was never in
855
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:09.780
my book because i didn't want to i didn't want
856
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:13.219
to glorify stripping and give girls the wrong idea that
857
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:16.409
like it's a cinderella story for everyone i really didn't
858
00:43:16.469 --> 00:43:18.250
want to and for me it kind of was like
859
00:43:18.289 --> 00:43:20.210
for me like the owner of the strip club like
860
00:43:21.050 --> 00:43:23.610
bell for me and like paid me to be out
861
00:43:23.650 --> 00:43:25.369
of the club he was like I will give you
862
00:43:25.429 --> 00:43:30.090
whatever you need for your pageants and yeah like get
863
00:43:30.130 --> 00:43:32.090
out of the club come to my house hang out
864
00:43:32.110 --> 00:43:34.309
at my house cook for me play with my pit
865
00:43:34.329 --> 00:43:37.820
bull puppy and that lasted like only three months because
866
00:43:37.860 --> 00:43:39.780
he was a little bit like a strip club owner
867
00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:45.880
very aggressive um but yeah like I literally was so
868
00:43:45.940 --> 00:43:48.440
wanted that the owner was like no we're not doing
869
00:43:48.460 --> 00:43:49.860
this I'm gonna pay.
870
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:53.260
You said something so interesting there, not and it kind
871
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:56.030
of goes back to what we started with. You didn't
872
00:43:56.070 --> 00:43:58.030
want to glorify it to make it seem like a
873
00:43:58.050 --> 00:44:03.360
Cinderella story. But I don't think any job necessarily has
874
00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:05.599
to be miserable or has to be a Cinderella story.
875
00:44:05.820 --> 00:44:08.940
If you really if you're passionate about what you look,
876
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:11.969
I don't give a shit about underwater welding. There's some
877
00:44:12.030 --> 00:44:14.699
dudes that love throwing on a helmet and going, we're
878
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:16.420
going to go weld some shit underwater.
879
00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:17.920
They love those submarines, man.
880
00:44:18.019 --> 00:44:20.000
There you go. And I go, hey, you know what?
881
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:22.099
If you enjoy it, if you love it, good for you.
882
00:44:22.619 --> 00:44:26.699
So but it's not again, there is no job where
883
00:44:26.780 --> 00:44:30.340
even I mean, let's say. Ask any 18-year-old guy, what's
884
00:44:30.380 --> 00:44:32.360
the dream job? Oh, porn star. I would love to
885
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:35.559
fuck all these girls. How much work goes into it?
886
00:44:35.699 --> 00:44:38.170
It's so funny. You traded an eight-hour job because you
887
00:44:38.210 --> 00:44:39.969
didn't like being on the thumb of somebody for a
888
00:44:39.969 --> 00:44:44.949
16-hour job producing social media, editing content, this, that, right?
889
00:44:45.630 --> 00:44:50.070
And to me, it's not about... even what the work
890
00:44:50.429 --> 00:44:54.639
is or, you know, how much money it'll make. What
891
00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:56.550
really matters at the end of the day is how
892
00:44:56.590 --> 00:44:58.210
much do you love it and how hard are you
893
00:44:58.250 --> 00:45:00.610
going to work at it? And if those two things
894
00:45:00.670 --> 00:45:03.650
are there, you will be successful. Well, I guess the
895
00:45:03.690 --> 00:45:06.349
little third thing is, are you talented at it? Because,
896
00:45:06.789 --> 00:45:09.250
you know, if you looked like me dancing at 21,
897
00:45:09.250 --> 00:45:11.030
you wouldn't have been in the back. They would have
898
00:45:11.090 --> 00:45:13.070
asked you to leave. Your owner would have come up
899
00:45:13.110 --> 00:45:14.860
and you would have been like, oh, I'm going to
900
00:45:14.889 --> 00:45:15.980
get a dick.
901
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:18.800
So I'm sure it would be very difficult for you
902
00:45:18.820 --> 00:45:19.400
to fit in.
903
00:45:19.500 --> 00:45:21.940
Not much of one. I'll be I'll admit that. But,
904
00:45:22.019 --> 00:45:24.159
you know, it's fine. But if I walk up to
905
00:45:24.179 --> 00:45:25.760
the owner and go, oh, you want me to come
906
00:45:25.820 --> 00:45:27.539
cook and clean for you? He would go, get the
907
00:45:27.659 --> 00:45:31.949
fuck away from me. Now, OK, so it is not
908
00:45:32.050 --> 00:45:36.250
so much about the job itself. Rather, it's more about
909
00:45:36.309 --> 00:45:37.969
the passion you have for it and the work you're
910
00:45:37.989 --> 00:45:41.079
willing to put into it. And it really seems like
911
00:45:41.340 --> 00:45:45.059
that is how you are with everything you do. Because
912
00:45:45.420 --> 00:45:47.320
you don't want to you don't want to just be
913
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:49.769
a good runner. Oh, I'll go have a little good run.
914
00:45:49.889 --> 00:45:53.610
It seems like you want to be very successful at it.
915
00:45:53.989 --> 00:45:54.250
Right.
916
00:45:54.610 --> 00:45:56.510
You don't want to write a book and you didn't
917
00:45:56.570 --> 00:45:59.159
want to go like I would do and just word
918
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:01.679
it out like this and go already went to the store.
919
00:46:02.179 --> 00:46:04.679
And then she did because that's what I would do.
920
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:06.920
You go. I need to look at other authors. I
921
00:46:06.940 --> 00:46:10.780
need to understand how structure works. I think it's very impressive.
922
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:12.500
And I always like to point this out about the
923
00:46:12.539 --> 00:46:14.909
performers that come on my show. There is such a
924
00:46:15.050 --> 00:46:18.250
stigma about porn stars. Like you said earlier, a girl
925
00:46:18.309 --> 00:46:24.909
who's hot on drugs just gets passed around STDs. You
926
00:46:24.949 --> 00:46:29.219
are the cleanest women in the world other than maybe nuns.
927
00:46:29.300 --> 00:46:32.340
And I can't quote. That for sure. OK, some of
928
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:34.679
those nuns are a little dirty. You're the cleanest girls
929
00:46:34.699 --> 00:46:36.199
in the world. You're some of the hardest working girls
930
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:39.670
in the world. You're committed to excellence for the most part.
931
00:46:39.769 --> 00:46:43.530
I don't see a video where the tripod's falling down
932
00:46:43.590 --> 00:46:45.690
and you went, well, that's my video for the week.
933
00:46:45.809 --> 00:46:47.070
Fuck it. I'll post it up there.
934
00:46:47.130 --> 00:46:48.170
Right. Yeah.
935
00:46:48.289 --> 00:46:51.570
Does it get hard to keep that drive going or
936
00:46:51.630 --> 00:46:54.690
is it so much fun what you're doing and you
937
00:46:54.730 --> 00:46:59.030
enjoy it so much that you are just it's natural now?
938
00:46:59.269 --> 00:47:01.630
It is natural to keep progressing and moving forward.
939
00:47:02.530 --> 00:47:02.969
Yeah.
940
00:47:03.050 --> 00:47:06.989
So it's it's so natural for me, like a duck
941
00:47:07.050 --> 00:47:12.199
to water, because, you know, one thing, one huge difference
942
00:47:12.460 --> 00:47:15.059
between porn and like having a nine to five is that.
943
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:18.010
This job allows me to train how I want to.
944
00:47:18.030 --> 00:47:20.869
I can always take time off for a race and
945
00:47:20.989 --> 00:47:23.610
nobody's ever going to question it. They're like, oh, yeah,
946
00:47:23.630 --> 00:47:26.110
Jade's doing her little race thing, doing a run. She's
947
00:47:26.150 --> 00:47:30.110
going to, you know, nobody is like, you can't do that.
948
00:47:30.309 --> 00:47:33.730
You have a blah, blah, blah. And like, I love
949
00:47:33.809 --> 00:47:36.429
that I found a job that not only do I love,
950
00:47:36.530 --> 00:47:39.769
but like it allows me to actually pursue hobbies that,
951
00:47:40.230 --> 00:47:41.929
you know, like, let's be real. Like, even though I'm
952
00:47:41.969 --> 00:47:46.199
in great shape, I'm very privy to what can happen
953
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:49.260
to athletes, injuries, stuff like that, aging, just aging and
954
00:47:49.300 --> 00:47:51.500
developing like I have arthritis and how I.
955
00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:54.429
So actually crazy, crazy thing.
956
00:47:55.769 --> 00:47:58.989
I think, too, this has been like clouding the haters
957
00:47:59.110 --> 00:48:01.699
is like I'm right now a second in line for a.
958
00:48:03.969 --> 00:48:07.849
sports world record that I had no idea about until
959
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like a week ago. And I'm not gonna lie, like,
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it kind of gave me an anxiety attack, because I
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felt like a lot of pressure.
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Like, how did that happen?
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But um, so I have thoracic arthritis, it's a super
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rare condition. It only affects like less than 1% of
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the population. But what it does is it over time
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deforms your joints, like literally will twist your joints. Like
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it will deform your joints. 30% of people who have
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it eventually end up in a wheelchair and, um, What else? Oh, yeah.
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And your skin, like, unfortunately.
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Destroys itself.
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Like, your skin attacks itself like psoriasis. But for me,
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it's on my feet. Well, there's not many people with
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my condition that are marathon runners.
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So much so that, like.
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So, the world record right now for most marathons run
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by someone with psoriatic arthritis is 14. I've run 12.
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And the next place only ran 9.
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Oh. Okay. So....
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Yeah, so, like, I am right there. Like, I am, like,
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about to take.
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And the dude that has the world record, he's, like,
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70 years old and retired. So there's no chance, like...
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like I'm gonna get this world record and like I
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had an epiphany about it all and I was like
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you know what like when I when I am at
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the end of my life one day like People, you know,
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I'm sure people wonder, like, will you regret doing porn? No,
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because like literally it elevated me. Would I ever be
989
00:49:38.340 --> 00:49:41.050
the best in the world at something had I not
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pursued this path? probably not like i guess if i
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was a kept wife or won the lottery and like
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didn't have a job you know what i mean like
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there's very few circumstances where i wouldn't have uh worked
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as much like where i would have been able to
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take the amount of time required all the perfect conditions
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to be able to do this especially with my condition
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because like it does make it painful so i do
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spend a lot of time like in between shoots, making
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sure I treat my feet. Luckily now, fortunately, I'm in
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remission so I have.
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Very pretty feet.
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I'm very proud. And yeah, I do a really good
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job of taking care of myself. Something that a day
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job boss would not give a fuck about. And they
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never did. I always felt like Every office job I
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was in, when I had health problems, even serious health problems, like, God,
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00:50:33.900 --> 00:50:35.190
one time I had a cancer scare.
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My boss was such a bitch to.
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Me about it. Like, it didn't end up being cancer, but, like,
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00:50:40.610 --> 00:50:43.170
I had to get surgery on my tongue. This is
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00:50:43.190 --> 00:50:44.860
fucking nuts. I had to get surgery on my tongue
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to have a piece of tongue removed. And so I
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had stitches in my mouth. And, like... yeah like my
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00:50:50.820 --> 00:50:53.380
job treated it like oh well it's like you're getting
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a mole removed I'm like bitch I am going to
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00:50:55.699 --> 00:51:01.630
have stitches in my mouth for five days that was
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00:51:01.650 --> 00:51:04.550
the attitude like I always felt like how dare you
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be a human being don't ever get cancer don't yeah
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like and the attitude like oh well better not be
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cancer like whoa like just always that attitude of like
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00:51:15.110 --> 00:51:17.710
you can't have any health problems like at least in
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00:51:17.750 --> 00:51:20.440
porn like if you get sick they don't want you
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00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:22.380
to shoot they're like no stay away from us we
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00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:24.559
don't want cats whatever the hell you have like don't
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00:51:24.579 --> 00:51:27.280
come to shoot it's okay we'll reschedule later like.
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Well, first of all, real fast question. Then I have
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00:51:32.260 --> 00:51:34.719
my last question here for you. But if you get that,
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say you get that record and I understand you do
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00:51:37.539 --> 00:51:43.079
whatever you will get that record. And the guy from
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00:51:43.219 --> 00:51:45.500
Guinness is at the end and he's got his hat
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00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:48.750
and he goes, oh, hello. Are you using real name
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00:51:48.789 --> 00:51:49.730
or using stage name?
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Stage name, but should I do it?
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If I get people to pay for it, it's $ 20, 000.
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00:51:55.559 --> 00:51:57.619
Get the fuck out of here. I'll let him have
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the record. Get out of here.
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00:51:59.179 --> 00:52:01.539
Should I pay for it, guys?
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I don't know. Weigh in.
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DM me with your donations.
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00:52:05.110 --> 00:52:09.289
DM me with your donations. It sounds more like Jade's wondering,
1041
00:52:09.530 --> 00:52:12.030
should you pay for it, guys? In which case, I
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00:52:12.070 --> 00:52:13.929
would say yes, sure.
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00:52:14.690 --> 00:52:18.070
No, seriously, my friend, not friend, she's just like a
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00:52:18.489 --> 00:52:23.090
chick I support that's She's like a pro fucking skateboarder.
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00:52:23.590 --> 00:52:27.349
Brooke does everything like now she's a pro skateboarder. And
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00:52:27.369 --> 00:52:29.809
I think Red Bull even sponsors her. But I followed
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00:52:29.849 --> 00:52:31.630
her journey for like the past few years. She's made
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some contact. We're like online acquaintances. She said it was
1049
00:52:36.179 --> 00:52:39.099
thirty thousand dollars for her and they upped it. They
1050
00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:41.320
said originally it was twenty thousand. But that because she
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00:52:41.340 --> 00:52:44.719
was an influencer and would inevitably profit from it that, oh,
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00:52:44.739 --> 00:52:45.920
you have to add ten thousand.
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00:52:46.380 --> 00:52:48.219
So I was like, oh, man. She was like, yeah.
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00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:50.300
So if you break a world record, because I asked
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her a couple of weeks, she was like, yeah, just
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00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:53.670
letting you know, if you break a world record, it's
1057
00:52:53.789 --> 00:52:56.869
very expensive. If you want the history books, I'm like,
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00:52:56.889 --> 00:52:58.329
that's such a scam.
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00:52:58.349 --> 00:53:00.889
That's insane. I've never heard that before. That's great. I
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00:53:00.929 --> 00:53:02.110
believe it. And that's crazy.
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00:53:02.219 --> 00:53:02.840
Oh, yeah.
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00:53:06.250 --> 00:53:08.269
Last question for you, Jade, where do we go from here?
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00:53:08.550 --> 00:53:11.829
Where is a plateau or a goal or something you
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00:53:11.849 --> 00:53:14.550
want to hit that'll take you to the next level
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00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:20.539
of feeling not accepted? You're accepted in the industry, but validation.
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00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:22.420
What is the next level that you want to go
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00:53:22.500 --> 00:53:26.250
to where you go? Oh, that'll that'll make me personally
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00:53:26.329 --> 00:53:27.449
feel level up.
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I want to not like I don't want to retire
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00:53:32.550 --> 00:53:35.940
anytime soon, but I want to learn and fulfill like
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studio positions like if they have them. So like, you know,
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00:53:39.219 --> 00:53:41.440
seeing like the behind the scenes stuff or like even
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if there's like side hustle work as like a side
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hustle accountant or finance stuff like that, like I want
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00:53:48.010 --> 00:53:50.210
to see how it works so that one day in
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the future when I open my future studio, Yeah, like
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I would love to see how it works from the
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admin side and from the logistics side, because I think
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it's so important. Like, obviously, I'm talent and it's nice.
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I have the view as talent of this business. But
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I also want the view from like a business standpoint.
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00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:12.599
And how how do you run different studios depending on
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00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:15.659
like who you're hiring and how often you're shooting? So yeah.
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That's the goal. And so eventually start my own Web
1085
00:54:19.409 --> 00:54:22.250
site while I'm still my plan is to stay in
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it as talent for at least five to 10 years.
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So like I got along, I got a long while
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before I say goodbye as a performer.
1089
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:33.719
She'll probably have the studio up in two years and
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00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:37.159
continue performing for another 20 because that's just what she
1091
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:39.719
wants to do. Ladies and gentlemen, my guest today, Jade Green,
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00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:44.280
you know exactly where to find her at. Jade Green VIP.
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00:54:44.340 --> 00:54:46.989
There's an E at the end of green links to
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all of our social media in the episode description below.
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Like we always say, support the content creators that come
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00:54:52.010 --> 00:54:54.590
on the show. Pay for her Guinness World Record. Why
1097
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are you being so cheap?
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You know, it's going to be my campaign. Everybody pay
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for my I don't need a handbag. Just please.
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Here's how does it have to work? So do we
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have to do real quick, real fast? I'm sorry. Do
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00:55:08.340 --> 00:55:10.519
we need to build up to it? Does it like
1103
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I'm at 12 with her at 14 or do you
1104
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have to get to 14 and go, guys, pay me,
1105
00:55:17.260 --> 00:55:19.539
put in the we'll do the donation to go fund
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me the whatever. Now we I am on the I'm tied.
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I'm on the cusp. It's me.
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I don't know what a good idea.
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What's the better strategy?
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As soon as I like tie him, then yeah, the
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one after that would be the, the beat.
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Um, so yeah, I.
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Think that's a great idea.
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I think I'm going to start campaigning.
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Well, my fans like are always welcome to come to
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races as long as they're respectful. Like I do, I
1117
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do require like people keep their, their, uh, conversations PG
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because there's families around it. It's like, there are kids around.
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So like, you know have social norms um we can
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00:55:56.869 --> 00:55:59.610
always talk dirty over text or like over you know
1121
00:55:59.630 --> 00:56:01.949
i'm right there we can talk on only fans it's
1122
00:56:01.989 --> 00:56:06.010
fine um but i tell people keep it respectful you're
1123
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always welcome to come to a race or i go
1124
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to all the like expos most of the time the
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00:56:10.409 --> 00:56:13.119
next one i'm going to is exotic new jersey so
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come say hi like come on the show come say hello.
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00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:21.090
Oh yeah Ladies and gentlemen, Jade Green. Jade, thank you
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00:56:21.110 --> 00:56:23.269
so much for your time today. I think you've changed
1129
00:56:23.329 --> 00:56:26.389
my life in a profound way. And I don't know
1130
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if that's good or bad, but we will see. Okay. Jade,
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thank you for coming on.
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Thank you.
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Jade Green, my guest for the evening. You know exactly
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where you can find her, at jadegreenvip. There's an E
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at the end of green, in case you were wondering.
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Links to all of her social media are in the
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episode description below. Please make sure you like, comment, subscribe
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on the video. But more importantly, and most importantly, always
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support the content creators that come on this show. If
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you support them, they come back. It's a great one
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for one. You know, as soon as you see somebody post, hey,
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I was on Going Deeper, comment, oh, I loved you
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on the show. I love you this, this and that. Anyway,
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ladies and gentlemen, my guest for the evening, Jade Green. Jade,
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thank you so much for coming on with me today.
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Oh, thank you so much for having me. Yeah, I
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am coming up to my two years of full time
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in the adult industry as an adult actress. And it's
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been awesome.
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I have to say, I always do prep for these
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interviews and I look through and I see this and that.
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I don't think we could be less relatable human beings,
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you and I. And I want to explain that in
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a good way for you. They'll look at me and go, oh,
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what a mess this fucking guy is. But, Jade, we'll
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eventually delve and get into why I think we're so different.
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Can you tell me who you were, name and social
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security number, please, before you got into the... Adult entertainment
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industry in whatever form that was. Were you always an
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adventurous person? Were you out there? Were you one of
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those people that just fucking hate it being under the
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ball of the thumb of a boss? Like, talk me
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through it. Who were you before getting into the adult
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entertainment industry?
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So a little bit of all of that, really, confidently.
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I started actually in the adult industry part time as
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a weekend warrior stripper when I was 21 in Baltimore,
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bumming my way through college like everybody else there. And
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I started when I was 21 on the block. And
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when I tell people that If they know the area,
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they look at me absolutely shocked because it's not the
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greatest area. It's unfortunately very crime-ridden. But to be honest,
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as a dancer, I have a lot of fond memories.
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And I might have seen some unfortunate things during my
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time there. But actually, I had some of the most
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authentic and real clients up there that... Like, had I
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not danced there and started somewhere else, I might not
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be here because of my love for the industry. And that's,
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that's really how much I loved my club. And I
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stayed there for a couple months in between my freshman
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and sophomore year of college. And that's where my sophomore
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and junior year of college, sorry. And that's where it
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all began. Like I was of.
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Age to dance.
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I was 21. I think back then you had to
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be 21 in certain spots in Baltimore just because the
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block is, if you're unfamiliar, it's a block, literally a
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city block of 35 strip clubs.
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It's like the Wild West of strip clubs.
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It's crazy. It is a little bit dangerous. However, like
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if you're street smart and you're there to make money,
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It's a good time for me. It was a very
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good time for a 21, 5'2 Latina Tika in Baltimore.
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So yeah, I feel like a lot of dancers could
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do well in Baltimore all year round. There's no specific season.
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So I forgot about that life and went into a
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very normal day job. in finance I worked for all
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different companies I worked for like USA Today I worked
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for the government I worked for a non-profit um and
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yeah like I hated being under the thumb of the
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boss and it was less so like I always said
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to my my um my people and my co-workers I
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love the job I just hated my bosses and a
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lot of the time half of half of if not
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more than half of my co-workers workers at.
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industry and it's i guess again i'm grateful for the
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experience because once you've worked with a bunch of um
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regardless of political size sociopaths of dc because let's be
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real a lot of them are um it shades you
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ironically into jade green it shades you and I didn't
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enjoy it. I didn't like the fact that the only
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way to really make a difference in government is to
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my career.
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that I really couldn't make a difference from the ground level,
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like in my position and like government finance and that
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people were so blah, blah, blah about the state of things.
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why are we doing this? Like, why can't we reutilize
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these funds for something else? Like, I always had all
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these questions that were bigger than what I could ever
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possibly do with my capabilities given. And so I just
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gave up. And I hate that the whole attitude of like, oh,
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you have to ride something out if you hate it.
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I would never. I run marathons as a hobby. I
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would never tell anybody to run marathons. If they hate it,
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that's the dumbest shit ever. I do not understand. No, seriously,
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because you can make money a million ways. It's not
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just sex work. It's not just, you know, there's so
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many ways that you can make money. So like, I
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understand that like with the economic times, like people feel desperate.
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But at the end of the day, if you could
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move to a place where you're happier, it's possible. Like
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I promise everybody, it's possible to get to like a
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job that at least you don't hate. Like even if
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you don't love it, like you'll you can find something
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you don't hate. So for me, going back in the
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adult industry was actually easy because I love the work.
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of all places on the block, I loved it. I
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had such a good time. And so, oh, she wants
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to get.
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Oh, you're good.
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You go, Genevieve.
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Let me let me let me pause you there. Let
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me just ask real quick.
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I interviewed a new performer, someone getting into the industry
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the other day. She's a 42 year old woman. Her
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and her husband were in the church for 40 years. Wow.
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And then just decided one day they go, we are
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going to be swingers. We've never stretched out. We've never
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done anything like that. We're going to be swingers. And
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she told me it was the church and then a
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book she read specifically that drove it to what I
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heard here is that you were driven to the adult
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entertainment industry due to the inefficiency of government. It sounded like.
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had a high sex drive anyways. Like I hate I
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stopped calling myself a swinger because people get really the
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idea that at 21, I was in a swinger party
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and I was not, I had a bunch of friends
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that we had no idea what we were called.
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Like a kind of like 10 of us fucked each other, females, males,
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like straight queer by we all fucked each other. And
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so I try to avoid swinger because what we did
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was technically swinging within the bounds of it. But like,
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I try not to say swinger anymore because people are like, Oh,
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you were in a club.
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No, we were not in a club. We were in
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Johnny Osock's living rooms.
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Sure. I just having a 14 on Wednesday before class. Sure. Sure.
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I just always I find it funny because the stigma
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coming from dudes sitting at home angry mad at porn
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stars is like, oh, it's just certainly, you know, these
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these girls just don't feel like working. They're lazy to
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get up. They go shoot their scene. They come home
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and I'm looking at it going. Well, this lady here
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is driven by the constant beat down of work at
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the time, which is what you, the listener, are feeling, too.
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And you know it. So don't be angry about it.
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Don't lash out about it. Understand that changes are possible. Now, look,
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you probably don't look like Jade here. So those changes
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might not quite be possible. But, hey, there's a different
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job out there for you, though.
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Right. Oh, my gosh. There totally is. And there's hope
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for everybody. Like, I didn't think like, I know I'm
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not old yet. I will be super hot when I'm old.
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I will rock that title. Hottest old lady ever. But, like,
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it's not like I was young either when I joined.
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the stripping thing for me and even the erotica was
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kind of a double life. Like, my husband and, like,
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you know, my friends knew that I was doing it. But, like,
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it was a thing I obviously kept private from my employers.
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really have as much Facebooks. Clubs barely had a Facebook
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or Instagram presence. So it was very easy to get
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away with dancing and then just go to work and
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have like a normal day job. For me, the decision
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with porn came from me maturing and really coming into
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my own and looking at my career. And when you've
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done something for 10 years that you hate and you
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realize how much you hate it, man, is it kind
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of embarrassing? Like, and I don't mind admitting that it
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was embarrassing because I, you get told, you know, whether
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it's from society or whether it's from school or parents
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or family, like just so many out friends, outside pressures
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that tell you if you do this path, if you
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go to school or if you start a business, either way,
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if you start a business, if you go to school,
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you're going to live this dream life full of cupcakes
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and roses and everyone's going to love you and you're
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going to be rich. And if you work hard, you'll
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be happy and make it. And that's such bullshit because.
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you could be working your ass off and not making
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enough money or on the flip side, be where I
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was where, yeah, I was making my money, but I
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was miserable. And it's like, what kind of life is
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either of those? Like, I think most people, regardless of
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where they're at and who they are, should aspire, have
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decent enough money. They can pay for their living and
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to just be happy to just, to not wake up
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every day and feel like they would rather be anywhere
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else than their current life. And I, I try to
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use my platform oddly for that. Like there's a lot
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of stigma around porn stars and adult industry workers that
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like I'm a marathon runner and like I'm becoming an
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ultra I'm training for my first ultra marathon. I'm one
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of the most health conscious discipline people I know both
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in and out of the industry. And, you know, I'm
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not going to say there's nobody doing that in the industry,
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like people party everywhere and have drug issues. But that
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attitude that like, just because you're doing something doesn't mean
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you have to do it the way everyone thinks you should.
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You don't have to do a job that's certain. Like
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you can start your own business. You can find a
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different job. The point is you don't have to be
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in any fucking box. And I love spreading that message
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to my fans because I do get people that come
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back to me that are like, hey, like I started
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running because of you. Or like I had a couple
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of fans that were like, I'm starting a like photography business.
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I'm starting a photography business because of you and like
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what you said to me. And I truly believe it.
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People's happiness. I want that to be a message I spread.
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And that's such a nice message, too. I have to
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have to pause and jump real right back real quick.
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So you start dancing at 21. Was this in your nature?
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to make some money on the weekends. They go, well,
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Target's hiring. You know, they do overnights, too. When you
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go to I think I'm going to take my clothes off.
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How like is that is that in your nature? If
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I met someone who knew you when you were 15
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and I said Jade went on the strip, would they go? Oh, yeah,
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that makes sense. I get that.
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I mean, and I grew up watching like Girls Next
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Door and stuff like that. And I thought and I
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feel like that so many girls of my generation did.
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And I never looked at. Playboy bunnies in a demeaning way.
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Like even as a young teenager, I've looked at them
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as bad asses. I was like, look at them. Like
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they do not give a fuck. And like, regardless of
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what people think about them, they're living the life. They're
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having a good time. They're famous.
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They're happy.
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They're pursuing their own things. I mean, look at Holly
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Madison now. Like, You know, despite some of her struggles,
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she faces a playboy bunny. Like she's an acclaimed author, podcaster.
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Like she's grown beyond what she was into these big roles.
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I'm sure I see it with, who was it? Chloe Cherry,
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where she went from porn to being a top actress.
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I loved her in Euphoria.
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She was fabulous.
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I was really happy to see that. So, you know,
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I hate to be cocky about it, but maybe I
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was ahead of my time where it's like, I didn't
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give a shit as a teenager. And like, especially in
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college was where I really found myself. Cause, um, that
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was the first time I moved away from home at
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18 and I never went back. And, um, man, like
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I went to an all women's college knowing, knowing that
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if I went to a co-ed school, I'd probably, I
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probably wouldn't party too much at that age. And I
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probably would like have totally fucked all the boys and
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fuck their girlfriends.
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Yeah. It just fucked everyone. Or me being at an
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all-girls school, even though there were definitely girls I found
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attractive and chicks I hooked up with, it was a
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different environment. There wasn't parties. It was very academic-centered and focused.
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out of the school. The first year was always the
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hardest for everybody. But then after that, most of my
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classmates just hung around for the next three, four years.
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And that was where I met All the guys like
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so we were next to. So I went to Notre
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Dame of Maryland University and the only all girls school
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in Baltimore, of course. So I don't mind saying that,
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but it is strategically next to 25 other colleges. And
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right next to it is Loyola, like connected by a library.
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So guys were there, talked to a bunch of Loyola
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guys there. And then a few blocks down was John Hopkins.
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And then on the other side was Towson and Morgan State.
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And let me tell you, that run was fantastic. Like
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that was you know what?
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Like bar hopping, bed hopping, bed hopping is.
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Where it at.
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Just be hopping around.
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You mentioned something in there that immediately made it was
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it was what I referenced earlier. One of the two
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things I referenced earlier where I went. Oh, we're on
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different paths. This woman here is a different level of
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intellect than I am. The last book I read was
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Heavier Than Heaven by Charles Cross. It's a biography on
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Kurt Cobain. And that was my sophomore year of high school. Now,
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I am 38 years old. That was the last book
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I read. I'll point that out to you. I have
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all the books and this and that. It's just, you know,
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with the Internet, my ADD, I start looking at a
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piece of paper and I go, what else could I
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be doing while absorbing this? How did you know you
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wanted to write? And what do you write? And tell
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me all about writing. And then I have questions on
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how you write and go right ahead.
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Yeah, so writing kind of served two purposes for me.
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I think the natural purpose for all writers, of course,
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is as a coping mechanism.
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Like it's so when you enjoy writing.
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Just like anything else, like just like video gaming, you're
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playing an instrument. It's really therapeutic to just like God,
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I feel so cheesy saying this because I'm not I'm
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always such a happy presenting person. But honestly, like I
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love crying over my laptop sometimes. Sometimes I just or
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like angrily doing at my laptop and just recalling a
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situation inspiring me to write some shit about someone I
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don't like as a fictional character in my book. And
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it's so much better than like, I see people all
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the time throwing fits on like X and Instagram, which
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like some are valid, valid crash outs exist. But like,
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there's so many people who are just like being overly emotional,
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being overly dramatic for no fucking reason other than to
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get engagement.
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And I don't really like that.
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Like, I like to sit with my emotions when I'm
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feeling them because.
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It helps me heal.
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Like, that's how I get over them is I just
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sit with them alone and process them and think about them,
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write them down. And it's almost like cathartic where I
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write something down and I feel like, okay, I never
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have to remember that again.
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Like how cool is that?
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That I literally can forget that ever existed because in
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the back of my mind, like, obviously I remember something,
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but like, there's no pressure if that makes any sense
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to me. To remember it.
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And so, like, that feels good for me to just.
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Like, bury all my good and bad memories so I
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can make room. I feel like by doing that, I
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make room for more. Gotta make room for more processing. So, like,
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just gotta put my other stuff, historic archive it in
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a fictional version and then move on to the next chapter.
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And I started.
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I actually hated writing. What was so funny was like,
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I was not the best writer in college, but like
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that kind of motivated me to get good at writing
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was like, I got my first like C-back ever on
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an essay in like English or something. I think it
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was literature. I was so fucking pissed. Like that actually
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inspired me to get better at writing. And then I
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was writing on LinkedIn and like Medium and stuff like that.
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Just little articles about business and finance. Nothing exciting. Very boring,
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dry reads. And then around 25, what really triggered it
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was like I went on deployment with Red Cross. And
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after meeting all these people from other places, like not
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just my college of orgies and fun, fun party streamers,
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I come to realize like my sexual experiences are not normal.
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And I was like, I need like I need to
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write this down. Like I absolutely because I feel like
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nobody would believe it anyways. So I might as well
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do it in fiction form. And I need to just like. Yeah,
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just recall everything fondly so that, you know, when I'm
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older and, you know, my friends, you know, want to
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laugh and joke about something. I'm still friends with so
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many characters that the book has in it, like based
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on like they're not real life characters, but people that
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are based off of like the characters are based off
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of real life people. And like, for me, it's a
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really cool way to honor people I love, but then also, yeah,
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like kind of flex about sexuality, but also inspire others
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again to accept their own sexuality, but like, it's okay
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to be a little weird in your sexuality. It's okay
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to be awkward and fumble the ball sometimes, but also, yeah,
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like if you want to have an orgy or a threesome,
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no shame in that. Like for me, that was always
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the rest. Like me and my friends loved fucking each other.
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So like, God, I was just so excited to get
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like two guys and a group of people. That was
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my favorite end of the week treat. Five guys, literally.
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Let me plug it for you. The book series is
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Disorderly Conduct. I'm going to put a link to it
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in the episode description so people can check it out.
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I am I'm you're it's funny you're like laughing through
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this and I'm having profound moments where I'm like holy
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shit if you do write something down you'll never forget
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it again you always forget stuff and then you're like
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people hate their daydreams.
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Job.
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And I go, oh my God, I do, Jade. I
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do hate my fucking day job. So you're laughing and
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I think you've changed my life. I don't know for
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the better or for the worse, but we will see
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where it comes out to. I literally have a question
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about writing.
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How.
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Do you stretch it and not make it feel like
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a stretch? Here's what I would write. Jade and Matt
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sat down for an interview. They talked about our book
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for a while. Then they talked about fucking guys from Loyola.
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They had a really nice interview. I can't do. It
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was a Monday afternoon at 6 p.m. East Coast time
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when Jade sat down. How do you learn to do that?
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That sounds dumb to say, but how do you learn
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to do that?
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A combination of things like weirdly reading, like reading a
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lot and reading a lot of fiction. Like if you
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want to reading a lot of any, any genre you
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want to write for is such a good thing to
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do because it gives you the idea of like style
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flow themes, like how people are structuring things. this book
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because it's a different art form unlike any other art
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form books are the longest to consume you can't just
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you know and even audiobooks my audiobook is four and
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a half yeah yeah it's like four hours and like
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50 minutes i think more than that more than four
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and a half hours like that's a long ass time
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compared to a two-hour movie or a 10-minute short clip
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like It's, it is really hard to like get that together.
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For me, what helped was approaching it in like outlining it,
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but then also like uh, seeing how like other authors
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structured their, their plot and their climax. Cause I think
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it's so important that if you're going to write a fiction,
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you have to have a solid enough plot and subplot
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to make sure that the reader, like what the hell
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is the reader going to get from this? And as
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I said, my main goal is to inspire people to
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embrace their sexuality.
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Um, very much so. Like, I hope people like put.
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My book down. They're like, wow like it's really it's
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not weird nothing I do is weird like nobody should
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feel fucking weird about the things that they do or
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even the weird thoughts they have about sexuality like sometimes
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you know like there's a part in the book where
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it's supposed to be satire there's a part in the
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book where Ari hits on this little freshman she's like
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a senior and he's like a little freshman in college
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and she has no idea but like she like learns
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he's 18 and she's like coughing on her blood. She's like, Oh,
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like you're 18. Like, and she's like 21. And she's
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just like, even though that's not a huge age gap,
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I saw 18 year olds all the time at 21,
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but I kind of wanted to make up the satire
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of like, you know, the older guy or older girl
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and younger guy where it's like, she's freaking out over
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like three years younger. But like that scene is meant
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to make you roll your eyes at her and be like, Oh,
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come on. You know, You immature 21 year old who
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thinks that an 18 year old is not younger than you.
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Shut the fuck up. So I tried to make it
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both relatable, but also like you look at this character
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and you're meant to feel at times like super turned on.
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And then at some points really annoyed with her. Like,
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why is she doing these certain things? um and yeah
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for me like it's not just the scenery because sometimes
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I think like fiction authors can go a little bit
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deep into your right setting and scenery I like to
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get a lot of the feelings out there and um
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not just like you know our basic happy sad but
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also with like the sexual emotes like how um Ari
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gets very, very overjoyed. She is so thrilled to get banged. Like, just, like, bliss. Just, like,
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21-year-old young ass. I mean, I still feel that way. But, like, yeah,
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when you're first getting introduced to all that stuff, just the, like,
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fireworks and, like, butterflies, like... this is so much fun
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everybody tastes and smells delicious like just going into that
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in depth like how is she feeling about this and
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like why is she excited what psych like what is
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tantalizing her and not just the oh the room was
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dimly lit and he was spanking her like I feel like.
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Sure right right that's how I would describe it though
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I'd be like there wasn't a lot of light on
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and she was getting spanked so I get your point
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though I took it's Wow. God damn. It goes so much.
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If you've ever read a really good sex scene. So
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this is a stupid example. But my first ever erotica
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I read was a sci fi about paleontologists traveling back
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to watch dinosaurs fuck for their study.
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And then they fuck, too.
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Anyways, so I read this and let me tell you,
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I'm never going to forget that book because the sex
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scenes were just like buried that like a little bit
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of feely and like how are people react? How are
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the people reacting to the dinosaurs and the orgies? But
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like that over detail of like in a person's mind
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to me makes it interesting. Like and I noticed my
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readers appreciate it. They're like, wow, like you did a
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good job capturing the feeling of like Getting turned on
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and that build up, that build up, that build up
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and then like New Year's Eve. Yeah.
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So it almost did you do this when writing your books,
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the disorderly conduct books, were you. Was the whole. OK.
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All right.
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I understand what you wanted to accomplish. And I understand
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just writing anything is a feat in and of itself
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and being able to finish it and whatever. But were
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you kind of vicariously living through the things that were
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true in the story, but then also maybe fantasizing on
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how it could have been different? So not in a
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negative way whatsoever. It was a selfish thing for you
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to an extent where you're like, I need to do
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it this way. I need to feel it this way.
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And then the world enjoyed it as well. And you're like, oh, shit,
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double win there. Right.
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Yeah.
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So when you're in it, do you ever. Do you
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ever lose the fantasy halfway through writing? Has it ever
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fallen off where you go? Oh, no, it's just not working.
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It does happen because you have to remember, like, even
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though it is a passion project for sure, like this
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is totally my passion project. I do want to make
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it palatable to readers like me. I don't want it
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to be very redundant because like there were periods in
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my life where like, even though I'm queer, I was
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just fucking with guys for a while, like not out
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of choice, out of like, no women wanted to have
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sex with me at that point at that two year span.
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And it's like little awkward things like that.
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You know, you have to change to keep the fantasy.
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Like there's ways to keep that fantasy going in the story.
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that isn't real life, but isn't in such a tropey way. Because, like,
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you look at books like Fifty Shades of Grey, and
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I can't stand that book because I feel like every
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time they get into a stimulation scene, they're trying to
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stimulate their reader, it feels like.
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Look at this red room. Look at these whips.
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Bang, bang, bang. Ugh.
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Like, it's just like, I can't, like, how.
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Does she feel? Like, and then, I hate the way
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she writes about feelings, because in her book, she makes
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the girl's Her feelings manifest.
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He calls it as the little goddess.
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And I'm like... I'm like, nobody talks to themselves like that.
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Nobody's like, I have a little goddess in my head
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that's wet as fuck.
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Wording everywhere.
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Like, what? Like, oh, girl, stop. And then euphemisms. So
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one thing about my book a lot of people will
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notice right away is Ari says penis.
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She says cock. She says dick.
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She says vagina and pussy because... Like, why not? Like,
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those are the anatomically correct phrases. Like, one thing that
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always pissed me off about a lot of erotica was, like,
547
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why are we acting like we can't say cock?
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Like, it's a cock.
549
00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:56.089
What else is it?
550
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A sword?
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00:27:56.940 --> 00:27:59.089
Oh, come on. Like, stop that.
552
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If we can't address what it is, you're not doing
553
00:28:01.670 --> 00:28:03.890
erotic literature, then. Like, you have to be able to
554
00:28:03.990 --> 00:28:05.500
do these things if you want to.
555
00:28:05.509 --> 00:28:07.809
He took his sword out of his sheath. Like, was
556
00:28:07.869 --> 00:28:10.210
it a penis, though? What was it?
557
00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:13.960
See, but then I'd write it a little more bluntly.
558
00:28:14.059 --> 00:28:17.289
I'd be like, Jeff had a fat cock. And people
559
00:28:17.309 --> 00:28:19.910
would go, I'm turned off by this because this man
560
00:28:19.970 --> 00:28:21.710
is writing about fat cocks all day.
561
00:28:21.730 --> 00:28:23.150
Yeah, I'd love that. I'd read that.
562
00:28:23.349 --> 00:28:24.690
Author Jay Green would read that.
563
00:28:25.049 --> 00:28:28.349
I would read that over stupid Fifty Shades of Grey.
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00:28:29.910 --> 00:28:33.450
Jade, talk me through then getting back in and moving
565
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:38.039
into mainstream production. That is, again, another jump, another thing, right?
566
00:28:38.380 --> 00:28:43.140
When you're dancing, there's almost an aspect of separation. When
567
00:28:43.180 --> 00:28:46.660
you're writing, there's an extreme version of separation. And then
568
00:28:46.700 --> 00:28:49.359
when you're in mainstream, you're standing nude in front of
569
00:28:49.420 --> 00:28:51.259
a whole bunch of people and they go, time to fuck, Jade.
570
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:55.180
What is that transition like for you? Do you remember
571
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what your first scene was, if it was positive? You know,
572
00:29:00.470 --> 00:29:02.650
how did you feel going into that? What emotions were
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00:29:02.670 --> 00:29:04.869
you feeling? Was there nerves or anxiety? Because it sounds
574
00:29:04.890 --> 00:29:06.809
like you're a very sure of yourself person. You were
575
00:29:06.849 --> 00:29:08.329
ready to jump into this and it doesn't sound like
576
00:29:08.349 --> 00:29:11.829
you would jump in on a whim. So was there
577
00:29:12.329 --> 00:29:14.890
total comfort or was there a little bit like, oh, fuck,
578
00:29:14.910 --> 00:29:16.759
what am I what am I doing? Let's just grip
579
00:29:16.799 --> 00:29:18.839
our teeth and get this. And then maybe you loved it.
580
00:29:18.900 --> 00:29:19.519
You know, who knows?
581
00:29:20.049 --> 00:29:22.799
So it was confidence, but also apprehension.
582
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:26.099
And I still, I think this is just the way
583
00:29:26.220 --> 00:29:29.180
I am, both as an author and an actress, is
584
00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:31.579
I always worry, like, I hope the other person finds
585
00:29:31.619 --> 00:29:37.490
me attractive and, likes how I have sex. I still
586
00:29:37.529 --> 00:29:39.690
get that way because I don't know. It's like they're
587
00:29:39.730 --> 00:29:42.170
my co-workers. So I want to make sure if I
588
00:29:42.210 --> 00:29:44.509
was doing it, same with writing. I hope every one
589
00:29:44.549 --> 00:29:47.380
of my readers loves my book. Of course, I want
590
00:29:47.410 --> 00:29:50.660
the people I work with to be happy always. That's
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00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:53.900
just my personality. And so that was a big thing.
592
00:29:54.000 --> 00:30:02.160
It's like, I hope the co-talent thinks I'm hot. But
593
00:30:02.259 --> 00:30:06.950
it's gotten a lot easier. And especially since I've been...
594
00:30:07.710 --> 00:30:10.509
rock solid about my boundaries. Like I think if I
595
00:30:10.549 --> 00:30:13.950
would have joined the industry 10 years ago, who knows? Like,
596
00:30:13.970 --> 00:30:16.589
I think I was a lot more insecure, especially like
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00:30:16.630 --> 00:30:19.210
doing pageants and cheerleading and stuff like that. Like I
598
00:30:19.250 --> 00:30:22.579
was just so I was high, strong being in those environments.
599
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:25.140
So I'm not sure how I would have reacted. I
600
00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:28.460
might've been more likely to influence. Now I always want
601
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:30.819
to please people, but I say within reason and boundaries,
602
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:32.960
I'm not a people pleaser. Like the moment someone crosses
603
00:30:32.980 --> 00:30:35.869
my boundaries, I'm not a people pleaser. I'm very polite
604
00:30:35.930 --> 00:30:39.279
to them. I'll always be cordial to people, like, in person.
605
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:43.079
But I discontinue communication with them. I'm very, like, cut
606
00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:47.440
and dry. Like, it's not worth me getting upset about.
607
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:50.819
But it's also not me worth, like, compromising my values.
608
00:30:50.900 --> 00:30:54.789
And I get a lot of pushback, especially for certain things. Like,
609
00:30:54.809 --> 00:30:58.009
there are certain genres of porn I can't do because
610
00:30:58.029 --> 00:31:03.789
I'm a marathon runner and about to be an ultra runner. And... Yeah. Yeah.
611
00:31:04.309 --> 00:31:05.849
Like it makes us so anal.
612
00:31:07.269 --> 00:31:09.849
I was going to because trust me, we're going to
613
00:31:09.869 --> 00:31:11.809
get into the marathon running, as you can tell by
614
00:31:11.849 --> 00:31:14.069
my chubby face. I'm definitely in good shape.
615
00:31:14.089 --> 00:31:16.130
You're totally like Olympic marathon runner, Matt.
616
00:31:16.150 --> 00:31:17.529
That's how I feel.
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00:31:17.750 --> 00:31:19.819
You're doing my next one with me. Remember, you said
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00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:20.130
you were.
619
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:22.440
People go, you're a little bit more of a pale
620
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:25.660
the rock. And I go, yeah, I see it. I understand.
621
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:29.539
I get it. But OK, so there are limitations that
622
00:31:29.619 --> 00:31:32.839
now say you weren't a marathon runner. Does any of
623
00:31:32.900 --> 00:31:36.140
that stuff engage? Would you be interested in doing it
624
00:31:36.180 --> 00:31:38.329
if it wasn't going to interrupt your life cycle?
625
00:31:38.650 --> 00:31:41.710
Yes. And I think that it stresses me out so
626
00:31:41.750 --> 00:31:44.509
much because the problem is. So to give you some insight,
627
00:31:45.089 --> 00:31:49.890
I burn twenty five hundred to thirty five hundred calories
628
00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:56.339
a day. I'm anemic. I'm vegetarian. So I can't just
629
00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:01.240
like not eat either. Like the fasting issues, stuff like that.
630
00:32:01.670 --> 00:32:03.789
And like the problem is the one time I did
631
00:32:03.869 --> 00:32:07.009
fortunately do it once successfully for mainstream.
632
00:32:07.089 --> 00:32:07.819
And then I did it.
633
00:32:07.890 --> 00:32:10.559
Well, before that, I did it successfully for my own site.
634
00:32:10.579 --> 00:32:13.099
And so I at least own my own film. But
635
00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:14.920
it was like I had to wait until I was
636
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:18.740
off season because I can't. There's no fucking way with
637
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:22.589
how fast I burn through electrolytes and calories that I
638
00:32:22.750 --> 00:32:24.630
cannot eat for the amount of time.
639
00:32:24.670 --> 00:32:26.769
So I tell my fans, I'm like, give me a break.
640
00:32:26.809 --> 00:32:29.369
Like, you know, like I've done anal play in the past,
641
00:32:29.410 --> 00:32:31.069
like and I do enjoy some of it. But it's
642
00:32:31.109 --> 00:32:32.900
like one of those things where it's like, trust me,
643
00:32:33.019 --> 00:32:35.660
if I can eat do what I needed to do
644
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:39.160
for it and do my sport, I would so do it. Um,
645
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:41.500
and same with, so impact play is kind of like
646
00:32:41.539 --> 00:32:44.339
that for me, but fortunately I'm a little trooper. Um,
647
00:32:45.140 --> 00:32:49.130
so my superpower is probably because of my pain tolerance.
648
00:32:49.190 --> 00:32:53.730
Like you can beat the living F out of my ass.
649
00:32:54.210 --> 00:32:57.029
And like, it is so much fun. Oh my God. Yeah.
650
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:03.029
I haven't asked. So like I've done like really intense
651
00:33:03.069 --> 00:33:05.829
spanking shoes and stuff. What sucks about that, though, is again,
652
00:33:05.890 --> 00:33:08.839
like I got to watch it with like other mainstream shoes.
653
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:10.960
And then not only that, but like if I'm training, I.
654
00:33:11.779 --> 00:33:13.900
Really shouldn't do those because if I'm all bruised up,
655
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:16.400
it's not going to hurt in the moment. But muscle dump,
656
00:33:16.569 --> 00:33:19.569
delayed onset muscle soreness. same thing that happens to long
657
00:33:19.589 --> 00:33:23.069
distance runners with our other muscles that happens with ass
658
00:33:23.089 --> 00:33:26.150
spanking so like I would definitely be super sore after
659
00:33:26.170 --> 00:33:29.069
and I love those scenes like that especially like I
660
00:33:29.450 --> 00:33:31.890
would love to do another scene where like I just
661
00:33:31.910 --> 00:33:36.089
get my ass spanked and fucked but gotta wait gotta
662
00:33:36.109 --> 00:33:39.170
wait until after I have my next race July 11th
663
00:33:39.329 --> 00:33:41.920
and then I can have a little bit more fun there.
664
00:33:41.650 --> 00:33:45.200
So I have to ask and there's no wrong answer
665
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:48.180
with this at all If I were going to pay
666
00:33:48.220 --> 00:33:52.420
you the same dollar amount for either work running and
667
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:56.230
marathoning and staying in shape and fit and this and
668
00:33:56.269 --> 00:33:59.390
that or doing porn or doing whatever form it is
669
00:33:59.430 --> 00:34:02.279
of the adult entertainment industry, which would you pick right now?
670
00:34:02.819 --> 00:34:06.759
Oh, definitely porn because there's more longevity in it. I
671
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:10.320
love running, but like I can break my leg next
672
00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:13.710
year and then never run again. Like porn is one
673
00:34:13.750 --> 00:34:15.429
of those things where it's like, as long as you're,
674
00:34:15.590 --> 00:34:18.269
as I said, stay in your boundaries, know your body.
675
00:34:18.809 --> 00:34:20.710
You don't have to worry about those injuries. Like I
676
00:34:20.769 --> 00:34:22.949
know for a fact that like anal is really stressful
677
00:34:22.969 --> 00:34:24.949
on my body, so I don't do it. And I
678
00:34:24.989 --> 00:34:27.679
know that, yeah, like impact like can be depending on
679
00:34:27.699 --> 00:34:30.179
like the context and what it is. So I just
680
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:33.570
don't do it. And yeah, like, because I keep those
681
00:34:33.659 --> 00:34:36.460
boundaries really strong, like, I plan on staying in the
682
00:34:36.500 --> 00:34:38.699
industry for like, at least five to 10 years paid.
683
00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:41.539
And like, I'm confident that like, you know, nothing's gonna
684
00:34:41.579 --> 00:34:44.300
happen within that time that's gonna make me want to leave.
685
00:34:44.500 --> 00:34:47.179
And after that, I want to start my own studio,
686
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:50.280
or maybe who knows, be a director, producer for a
687
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:52.530
studio that would be incredible.
688
00:34:54.369 --> 00:34:56.170
So I definitely I want to get into that what
689
00:34:56.190 --> 00:34:58.050
the future holds and where you want to where you
690
00:34:58.070 --> 00:35:00.519
want to build it. But For right now, is there
691
00:35:00.699 --> 00:35:03.099
anything else that you're limited in doing or is there
692
00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:06.679
a type of scene or something where you go? Maybe
693
00:35:06.739 --> 00:35:08.940
not from the running, maybe from anything. Maybe you just
694
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:10.949
own confidence. You want to work your way up to it.
695
00:35:10.989 --> 00:35:13.670
Is there anything you're targeting right now that's like, oh,
696
00:35:13.730 --> 00:35:16.769
I really want to do more of this, whether it's acting,
697
00:35:16.809 --> 00:35:20.349
maybe even or it's. gangbangs. I know they don't seem
698
00:35:20.369 --> 00:35:22.489
like they should be in the same category, but for
699
00:35:22.530 --> 00:35:26.980
some reason in our industry, they are. So, what in
700
00:35:27.019 --> 00:35:29.260
your industry? Not my industry. I'm a podcaster. I just
701
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:31.579
sit on my ass. You guys are in the trenches, okay?
702
00:35:32.739 --> 00:35:36.289
But is there any type of thing that is still...
703
00:35:36.690 --> 00:35:39.449
On your not bucket list. That sounds terrible, too. But
704
00:35:39.469 --> 00:35:40.369
you understand what I'm saying.
705
00:35:40.389 --> 00:35:41.210
My bucket list.
706
00:35:41.250 --> 00:35:44.250
Your bucket list. That's a that's solid. I have heard
707
00:35:44.289 --> 00:35:46.449
that a million times before. And now that I sit here,
708
00:35:46.489 --> 00:35:47.969
I was like, you're going to give her credit for
709
00:35:48.030 --> 00:35:50.389
coming up with that. You genius. Take it.
710
00:35:50.389 --> 00:35:54.349
I would absolutely love to do stuff with like Pintide.
711
00:35:54.530 --> 00:35:55.550
And I met them at AVN.
712
00:35:57.059 --> 00:35:59.079
Um, Kentide I'd like to work with.
713
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:01.579
Um, I, I would totally love to do like something
714
00:36:01.619 --> 00:36:04.719
with kink and, and it's nice. My next tour is
715
00:36:04.739 --> 00:36:07.530
like perfectly time where I don't have any like immediate
716
00:36:07.570 --> 00:36:10.949
races after this one. So like my next race is
717
00:36:11.010 --> 00:36:14.449
July 7th. july 11th and then i go on tour
718
00:36:14.469 --> 00:36:16.650
in august which is great because like my next race
719
00:36:16.710 --> 00:36:19.039
after that's not till december so that's one of those
720
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:21.639
windows where like yeah i gotta get like all the
721
00:36:21.699 --> 00:36:25.000
really hardcore stuff out of the way utilize my endurance
722
00:36:25.059 --> 00:36:27.420
while i have it in between seasons and i still
723
00:36:27.460 --> 00:36:30.119
run i still work out but not nearly it's just
724
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:33.940
not the same level that when i'm actually in training
725
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:38.820
for an event it's more like maintenance um and Yeah, like,
726
00:36:39.099 --> 00:36:42.179
I would love to do a feature film. Like, you know,
727
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:44.909
whether it be, like, a supporting role. Like, that would
728
00:36:44.929 --> 00:36:47.389
be so cool just to, like, have something in a
729
00:36:47.429 --> 00:36:49.090
feature film and fix it.
730
00:36:49.250 --> 00:36:51.989
So, any of those would be incredible.
731
00:36:52.670 --> 00:36:55.389
How did you initially start running? Were you always just
732
00:36:55.469 --> 00:36:57.530
in shape and that's what you did? Do you like
733
00:36:57.610 --> 00:37:01.110
the actual act of running or do you like the
734
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:04.300
result you get from it? Because while I'm running, I
735
00:37:04.380 --> 00:37:05.239
fucking hate it.
736
00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:06.119
But, like.
737
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:09.539
you know, you know, it's healthy for you. You know,
738
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:13.739
you feel better when the endorphins start flowing and everything afterwards. What,
739
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:16.469
what is it about running? And I, no offense to you.
740
00:37:16.489 --> 00:37:18.829
I have a lot of friends who are runners. I
741
00:37:18.849 --> 00:37:20.949
always hit when someone's like, I'm a runner. I go,
742
00:37:20.969 --> 00:37:23.090
I don't know what you do with your fucking mind
743
00:37:23.250 --> 00:37:25.409
for the next hour. Cause it seems like you're just
744
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:29.219
move forward, move forward. I have been at a gym.
745
00:37:30.429 --> 00:37:34.789
In a theater cardio room, okay, on a treadmill with
746
00:37:34.849 --> 00:37:38.090
a theater, like a movie was playing that I was
747
00:37:38.190 --> 00:37:41.309
interested in reading the captions, but I was also listening
748
00:37:41.369 --> 00:37:44.409
to a podcast and engaging with that. And I walked
749
00:37:44.449 --> 00:37:46.860
for about 20 minutes and I not walk, you know,
750
00:37:46.969 --> 00:37:50.300
moderate pace. And I just went, I couldn't be more
751
00:37:50.380 --> 00:37:53.559
bored in my life than where I am currently right
752
00:37:53.659 --> 00:37:55.119
now doing all of this.
753
00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:56.510
You're not a runner.
754
00:37:56.530 --> 00:37:57.210
That's OK.
755
00:37:57.230 --> 00:37:57.650
You're not.
756
00:37:57.690 --> 00:38:00.530
You're a different sportsman. You're a different type of sportsman.
757
00:38:00.570 --> 00:38:02.030
That's perfectly OK.
758
00:38:02.150 --> 00:38:04.760
I'll move my legs all day. You want to play basketball,
759
00:38:04.820 --> 00:38:07.119
go up and down the court. Like it's not a
760
00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:10.820
movement issue. It is exactly that. It's a runner. How
761
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:12.860
did you know you were a runner? When did you
762
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:16.019
know you were a runner? And. How long do you
763
00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:18.719
want to be a runner your whole life until, you know,
764
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:21.110
knock on wood, God forbid those knees or what are
765
00:38:21.150 --> 00:38:23.469
we what are we talking about? How did you develop
766
00:38:23.510 --> 00:38:26.389
this love? Runners blow my mind more than porn stars do.
767
00:38:26.429 --> 00:38:27.829
If you're a girl who goes, I like being in
768
00:38:27.869 --> 00:38:30.570
the middle of a gangbang. I go, I get that.
769
00:38:30.889 --> 00:38:32.989
If you're a girl who goes, I really like running.
770
00:38:33.050 --> 00:38:35.500
I go, oh, sweetie, what's wrong with you? What do
771
00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:42.380
you mean? Like, oh, so how'd you get into it?
772
00:38:42.420 --> 00:38:43.880
How did it become your thing?
773
00:38:44.630 --> 00:38:48.389
So it was really interesting. Like, I never really did
774
00:38:48.409 --> 00:38:50.780
sports in high school. I was a very artsy kid.
775
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:54.719
And in college, like, it sucks. Like, my school didn't
776
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:58.400
have a dance team. I started our first cheerleading squad,
777
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:00.780
which is cool, because I did that on the side.
778
00:39:01.219 --> 00:39:04.139
And then years later was a CAPS cheerleader. But It
779
00:39:04.179 --> 00:39:06.889
was one season. I had a good time doing it.
780
00:39:07.059 --> 00:39:09.860
It wasn't I was more into pageants. I was definitely
781
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:14.139
a crazy for 10 years. I like was nuts with
782
00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:19.469
pageants from like 16 to 26. And yeah, like around
783
00:39:19.510 --> 00:39:22.070
that time, I kind of felt like a little bit
784
00:39:22.190 --> 00:39:26.849
inadequate without my dance and like without any like, even
785
00:39:26.889 --> 00:39:28.929
though we did cheerleading, it wasn't at the level I
786
00:39:28.969 --> 00:39:31.300
was used to because I was doing high school cheerleading
787
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:33.440
so I was like man like I need to pick
788
00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:36.550
up a new hobby basically and so like especially with
789
00:39:36.610 --> 00:39:40.610
pageants they really encouraged us to like find causes you
790
00:39:40.730 --> 00:39:43.849
love to volunteer for go find hobbies like you need
791
00:39:43.889 --> 00:39:46.570
to be a well-rounded contestant or else they're not going
792
00:39:46.590 --> 00:39:49.199
to pick you so there was always that like pressure
793
00:39:49.460 --> 00:39:52.000
it's really weird it was it felt like very uh
794
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:56.440
very uh eastern civilization of like pick what you want
795
00:39:56.460 --> 00:39:59.460
to do now get really good at it and it's like.
796
00:39:59.420 --> 00:40:04.679
Okay all right jade let's figure out your 50 year plan.
797
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:07.639
Yeah exactly no they were very and pageants were like
798
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:11.719
that where like it wasn't uncommon for interviewers to be
799
00:40:11.739 --> 00:40:14.059
like where do you see yourself in 10 20 years
800
00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:20.539
and it's like i'm 18 what the fuck Um, so
801
00:40:20.579 --> 00:40:22.780
you learn that like you, you know, you either you
802
00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:25.409
learn it on your own or through pageant friends or
803
00:40:25.429 --> 00:40:28.170
through coaches in the industry, you learn it through directors
804
00:40:28.269 --> 00:40:31.710
to like, it's just like porn as you're in it longer,
805
00:40:31.750 --> 00:40:34.309
you definitely learn some things that really help you along
806
00:40:34.329 --> 00:40:37.739
the way. And running was one of those things where like,
807
00:40:38.389 --> 00:40:41.889
I started it and like, it just became such an
808
00:40:41.949 --> 00:40:46.969
addiction and it made me feel so like empowered and
809
00:40:47.030 --> 00:40:49.710
kind of like, I hate saying this because this was
810
00:40:49.769 --> 00:40:52.760
my personality in pageants. It's not my personality in porn.
811
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:56.059
I'm so like collaborative because I love fucking everyone, but
812
00:40:56.099 --> 00:41:00.199
I was very hyper competitive in pageants where like cutthroat,
813
00:41:00.420 --> 00:41:02.530
because I mean, they made it that way. Like you
814
00:41:02.610 --> 00:41:06.590
had to be to survive. And, um, I loved being
815
00:41:06.710 --> 00:41:10.630
intimidating to the other girls, especially when I started running marathons.
816
00:41:10.809 --> 00:41:13.130
I would love showing up to a pageant and being.
817
00:41:12.929 --> 00:41:18.909
Like, hey girls, how are you? Oh, you're working with
818
00:41:18.969 --> 00:41:19.610
the trainer?
819
00:41:19.630 --> 00:41:24.130
I'm working with the trainer too, but I'm doing marathons now.
820
00:41:24.250 --> 00:41:30.820
Just that obnoxious type of type of bitch I was
821
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:33.539
very like I wanted that money man like I was
822
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:36.329
out for it I wanted that scholarship money and I
823
00:41:36.409 --> 00:41:38.929
eventually like paid for my college with pageant stuff so
824
00:41:38.969 --> 00:41:41.550
like running was kind of the thing that kept me
825
00:41:41.590 --> 00:41:45.000
very like grounded and like centered And it was so
826
00:41:45.099 --> 00:41:47.360
ironic I was like that because my running community was
827
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:50.320
never like that. Like people in the running community are hippies, man.
828
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:54.429
Like they're so chill and a lot of them aren't competitive.
829
00:41:54.469 --> 00:41:58.210
Like non-elite people are pretty chill. And even elites are
830
00:41:58.269 --> 00:42:01.429
pretty chill, especially towards us non-elites. So like the fact
831
00:42:01.489 --> 00:42:03.769
that that was even a part of my personality for
832
00:42:03.789 --> 00:42:05.550
a brief time, I like look back at it and
833
00:42:05.570 --> 00:42:08.619
I'm like, ew, I hate that pageants brought that out
834
00:42:08.659 --> 00:42:08.820
of me.
835
00:42:09.500 --> 00:42:11.639
Well, let me ask you this, because I've had so
836
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:14.019
many different conversations with people who started in so many
837
00:42:14.059 --> 00:42:17.340
different ways. But what I always notice, and again, I'm
838
00:42:17.380 --> 00:42:21.260
talking about online when there's not like a giant cancellation
839
00:42:21.300 --> 00:42:25.050
going on or something along those lines. But the females
840
00:42:25.610 --> 00:42:29.110
in this community are so collaborative and friendly and this
841
00:42:29.150 --> 00:42:31.929
and that. And then you hear horror stories about strip clubs,
842
00:42:32.309 --> 00:42:34.469
about girls being competitive. That's true.
843
00:42:34.489 --> 00:42:35.949
Strip clubs were a little bit like that.
844
00:42:35.989 --> 00:42:39.010
I mean, in Baltimore, especially. But I was always... I
845
00:42:39.050 --> 00:42:41.139
was a very taken up girl. I was always in
846
00:42:41.179 --> 00:42:44.199
the back. I was always busy, so I barely noticed.
847
00:42:45.500 --> 00:42:48.260
I was going to say, were you competitive in that aspect?
848
00:42:48.530 --> 00:42:49.389
I didn't need to be.
849
00:42:49.750 --> 00:42:53.150
Little 21-year-old hottie me, like those guys would just come
850
00:42:53.269 --> 00:42:54.730
in and be like, oh, I'm taking her.
851
00:42:56.250 --> 00:42:58.710
Jade's never been to the front of the club she's
852
00:42:58.750 --> 00:42:59.829
just goes in and.
853
00:43:00.010 --> 00:43:03.670
Out of the back the owner was like well and
854
00:43:03.690 --> 00:43:06.460
the owner here's some like key that was never in
855
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:09.780
my book because i didn't want to i didn't want
856
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:13.219
to glorify stripping and give girls the wrong idea that
857
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:16.409
like it's a cinderella story for everyone i really didn't
858
00:43:16.469 --> 00:43:18.250
want to and for me it kind of was like
859
00:43:18.289 --> 00:43:20.210
for me like the owner of the strip club like
860
00:43:21.050 --> 00:43:23.610
bell for me and like paid me to be out
861
00:43:23.650 --> 00:43:25.369
of the club he was like I will give you
862
00:43:25.429 --> 00:43:30.090
whatever you need for your pageants and yeah like get
863
00:43:30.130 --> 00:43:32.090
out of the club come to my house hang out
864
00:43:32.110 --> 00:43:34.309
at my house cook for me play with my pit
865
00:43:34.329 --> 00:43:37.820
bull puppy and that lasted like only three months because
866
00:43:37.860 --> 00:43:39.780
he was a little bit like a strip club owner
867
00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:45.880
very aggressive um but yeah like I literally was so
868
00:43:45.940 --> 00:43:48.440
wanted that the owner was like no we're not doing
869
00:43:48.460 --> 00:43:49.860
this I'm gonna pay.
870
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:53.260
You said something so interesting there, not and it kind
871
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:56.030
of goes back to what we started with. You didn't
872
00:43:56.070 --> 00:43:58.030
want to glorify it to make it seem like a
873
00:43:58.050 --> 00:44:03.360
Cinderella story. But I don't think any job necessarily has
874
00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:05.599
to be miserable or has to be a Cinderella story.
875
00:44:05.820 --> 00:44:08.940
If you really if you're passionate about what you look,
876
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:11.969
I don't give a shit about underwater welding. There's some
877
00:44:12.030 --> 00:44:14.699
dudes that love throwing on a helmet and going, we're
878
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:16.420
going to go weld some shit underwater.
879
00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:17.920
They love those submarines, man.
880
00:44:18.019 --> 00:44:20.000
There you go. And I go, hey, you know what?
881
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:22.099
If you enjoy it, if you love it, good for you.
882
00:44:22.619 --> 00:44:26.699
So but it's not again, there is no job where
883
00:44:26.780 --> 00:44:30.340
even I mean, let's say. Ask any 18-year-old guy, what's
884
00:44:30.380 --> 00:44:32.360
the dream job? Oh, porn star. I would love to
885
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:35.559
fuck all these girls. How much work goes into it?
886
00:44:35.699 --> 00:44:38.170
It's so funny. You traded an eight-hour job because you
887
00:44:38.210 --> 00:44:39.969
didn't like being on the thumb of somebody for a
888
00:44:39.969 --> 00:44:44.949
16-hour job producing social media, editing content, this, that, right?
889
00:44:45.630 --> 00:44:50.070
And to me, it's not about... even what the work
890
00:44:50.429 --> 00:44:54.639
is or, you know, how much money it'll make. What
891
00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:56.550
really matters at the end of the day is how
892
00:44:56.590 --> 00:44:58.210
much do you love it and how hard are you
893
00:44:58.250 --> 00:45:00.610
going to work at it? And if those two things
894
00:45:00.670 --> 00:45:03.650
are there, you will be successful. Well, I guess the
895
00:45:03.690 --> 00:45:06.349
little third thing is, are you talented at it? Because,
896
00:45:06.789 --> 00:45:09.250
you know, if you looked like me dancing at 21,
897
00:45:09.250 --> 00:45:11.030
you wouldn't have been in the back. They would have
898
00:45:11.090 --> 00:45:13.070
asked you to leave. Your owner would have come up
899
00:45:13.110 --> 00:45:14.860
and you would have been like, oh, I'm going to
900
00:45:14.889 --> 00:45:15.980
get a dick.
901
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:18.800
So I'm sure it would be very difficult for you
902
00:45:18.820 --> 00:45:19.400
to fit in.
903
00:45:19.500 --> 00:45:21.940
Not much of one. I'll be I'll admit that. But,
904
00:45:22.019 --> 00:45:24.159
you know, it's fine. But if I walk up to
905
00:45:24.179 --> 00:45:25.760
the owner and go, oh, you want me to come
906
00:45:25.820 --> 00:45:27.539
cook and clean for you? He would go, get the
907
00:45:27.659 --> 00:45:31.949
fuck away from me. Now, OK, so it is not
908
00:45:32.050 --> 00:45:36.250
so much about the job itself. Rather, it's more about
909
00:45:36.309 --> 00:45:37.969
the passion you have for it and the work you're
910
00:45:37.989 --> 00:45:41.079
willing to put into it. And it really seems like
911
00:45:41.340 --> 00:45:45.059
that is how you are with everything you do. Because
912
00:45:45.420 --> 00:45:47.320
you don't want to you don't want to just be
913
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:49.769
a good runner. Oh, I'll go have a little good run.
914
00:45:49.889 --> 00:45:53.610
It seems like you want to be very successful at it.
915
00:45:53.989 --> 00:45:54.250
Right.
916
00:45:54.610 --> 00:45:56.510
You don't want to write a book and you didn't
917
00:45:56.570 --> 00:45:59.159
want to go like I would do and just word
918
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:01.679
it out like this and go already went to the store.
919
00:46:02.179 --> 00:46:04.679
And then she did because that's what I would do.
920
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:06.920
You go. I need to look at other authors. I
921
00:46:06.940 --> 00:46:10.780
need to understand how structure works. I think it's very impressive.
922
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:12.500
And I always like to point this out about the
923
00:46:12.539 --> 00:46:14.909
performers that come on my show. There is such a
924
00:46:15.050 --> 00:46:18.250
stigma about porn stars. Like you said earlier, a girl
925
00:46:18.309 --> 00:46:24.909
who's hot on drugs just gets passed around STDs. You
926
00:46:24.949 --> 00:46:29.219
are the cleanest women in the world other than maybe nuns.
927
00:46:29.300 --> 00:46:32.340
And I can't quote. That for sure. OK, some of
928
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:34.679
those nuns are a little dirty. You're the cleanest girls
929
00:46:34.699 --> 00:46:36.199
in the world. You're some of the hardest working girls
930
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:39.670
in the world. You're committed to excellence for the most part.
931
00:46:39.769 --> 00:46:43.530
I don't see a video where the tripod's falling down
932
00:46:43.590 --> 00:46:45.690
and you went, well, that's my video for the week.
933
00:46:45.809 --> 00:46:47.070
Fuck it. I'll post it up there.
934
00:46:47.130 --> 00:46:48.170
Right. Yeah.
935
00:46:48.289 --> 00:46:51.570
Does it get hard to keep that drive going or
936
00:46:51.630 --> 00:46:54.690
is it so much fun what you're doing and you
937
00:46:54.730 --> 00:46:59.030
enjoy it so much that you are just it's natural now?
938
00:46:59.269 --> 00:47:01.630
It is natural to keep progressing and moving forward.
939
00:47:02.530 --> 00:47:02.969
Yeah.
940
00:47:03.050 --> 00:47:06.989
So it's it's so natural for me, like a duck
941
00:47:07.050 --> 00:47:12.199
to water, because, you know, one thing, one huge difference
942
00:47:12.460 --> 00:47:15.059
between porn and like having a nine to five is that.
943
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:18.010
This job allows me to train how I want to.
944
00:47:18.030 --> 00:47:20.869
I can always take time off for a race and
945
00:47:20.989 --> 00:47:23.610
nobody's ever going to question it. They're like, oh, yeah,
946
00:47:23.630 --> 00:47:26.110
Jade's doing her little race thing, doing a run. She's
947
00:47:26.150 --> 00:47:30.110
going to, you know, nobody is like, you can't do that.
948
00:47:30.309 --> 00:47:33.730
You have a blah, blah, blah. And like, I love
949
00:47:33.809 --> 00:47:36.429
that I found a job that not only do I love,
950
00:47:36.530 --> 00:47:39.769
but like it allows me to actually pursue hobbies that,
951
00:47:40.230 --> 00:47:41.929
you know, like, let's be real. Like, even though I'm
952
00:47:41.969 --> 00:47:46.199
in great shape, I'm very privy to what can happen
953
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:49.260
to athletes, injuries, stuff like that, aging, just aging and
954
00:47:49.300 --> 00:47:51.500
developing like I have arthritis and how I.
955
00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:54.429
So actually crazy, crazy thing.
956
00:47:55.769 --> 00:47:58.989
I think, too, this has been like clouding the haters
957
00:47:59.110 --> 00:48:01.699
is like I'm right now a second in line for a.
958
00:48:03.969 --> 00:48:07.849
sports world record that I had no idea about until
959
00:48:07.889 --> 00:48:10.530
like a week ago. And I'm not gonna lie, like,
960
00:48:10.949 --> 00:48:13.309
it kind of gave me an anxiety attack, because I
961
00:48:13.309 --> 00:48:16.760
felt like a lot of pressure.
962
00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:18.280
Like, how did that happen?
963
00:48:18.389 --> 00:48:22.099
But um, so I have thoracic arthritis, it's a super
964
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:25.300
rare condition. It only affects like less than 1% of
965
00:48:25.340 --> 00:48:28.539
the population. But what it does is it over time
966
00:48:28.579 --> 00:48:32.889
deforms your joints, like literally will twist your joints. Like
967
00:48:32.969 --> 00:48:36.130
it will deform your joints. 30% of people who have
968
00:48:36.190 --> 00:48:40.329
it eventually end up in a wheelchair and, um, What else? Oh, yeah.
969
00:48:40.449 --> 00:48:41.989
And your skin, like, unfortunately.
970
00:48:42.030 --> 00:48:42.840
Destroys itself.
971
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:46.260
Like, your skin attacks itself like psoriasis. But for me,
972
00:48:46.300 --> 00:48:49.719
it's on my feet. Well, there's not many people with
973
00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:52.420
my condition that are marathon runners.
974
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:53.679
So much so that, like.
975
00:48:54.139 --> 00:48:56.860
So, the world record right now for most marathons run
976
00:48:56.900 --> 00:49:00.139
by someone with psoriatic arthritis is 14. I've run 12.
977
00:49:00.139 --> 00:49:01.860
And the next place only ran 9.
978
00:49:01.860 --> 00:49:02.380
Oh. Okay. So....
979
00:49:09.869 --> 00:49:12.840
Yeah, so, like, I am right there. Like, I am, like,
980
00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:13.780
about to take.
981
00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:16.260
And the dude that has the world record, he's, like,
982
00:49:16.260 --> 00:49:19.889
70 years old and retired. So there's no chance, like...
983
00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:23.199
like I'm gonna get this world record and like I
984
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:25.420
had an epiphany about it all and I was like
985
00:49:25.699 --> 00:49:28.590
you know what like when I when I am at
986
00:49:28.630 --> 00:49:31.630
the end of my life one day like People, you know,
987
00:49:31.650 --> 00:49:34.530
I'm sure people wonder, like, will you regret doing porn? No,
988
00:49:34.670 --> 00:49:38.280
because like literally it elevated me. Would I ever be
989
00:49:38.340 --> 00:49:41.050
the best in the world at something had I not
990
00:49:41.110 --> 00:49:45.289
pursued this path? probably not like i guess if i
991
00:49:45.329 --> 00:49:48.309
was a kept wife or won the lottery and like
992
00:49:48.389 --> 00:49:50.329
didn't have a job you know what i mean like
993
00:49:50.369 --> 00:49:54.510
there's very few circumstances where i wouldn't have uh worked
994
00:49:54.570 --> 00:49:56.469
as much like where i would have been able to
995
00:49:56.510 --> 00:50:00.289
take the amount of time required all the perfect conditions
996
00:50:00.570 --> 00:50:02.829
to be able to do this especially with my condition
997
00:50:02.849 --> 00:50:05.769
because like it does make it painful so i do
998
00:50:05.809 --> 00:50:08.960
spend a lot of time like in between shoots, making
999
00:50:08.980 --> 00:50:12.949
sure I treat my feet. Luckily now, fortunately, I'm in
1000
00:50:12.989 --> 00:50:13.909
remission so I have.
1001
00:50:13.829 --> 00:50:14.550
Very pretty feet.
1002
00:50:14.730 --> 00:50:19.309
I'm very proud. And yeah, I do a really good
1003
00:50:19.369 --> 00:50:22.429
job of taking care of myself. Something that a day
1004
00:50:22.449 --> 00:50:24.940
job boss would not give a fuck about. And they
1005
00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:29.139
never did. I always felt like Every office job I
1006
00:50:29.179 --> 00:50:33.840
was in, when I had health problems, even serious health problems, like, God,
1007
00:50:33.900 --> 00:50:35.190
one time I had a cancer scare.
1008
00:50:35.389 --> 00:50:38.030
My boss was such a bitch to.
1009
00:50:37.929 --> 00:50:40.550
Me about it. Like, it didn't end up being cancer, but, like,
1010
00:50:40.610 --> 00:50:43.170
I had to get surgery on my tongue. This is
1011
00:50:43.190 --> 00:50:44.860
fucking nuts. I had to get surgery on my tongue
1012
00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:47.019
to have a piece of tongue removed. And so I
1013
00:50:47.059 --> 00:50:50.760
had stitches in my mouth. And, like... yeah like my
1014
00:50:50.820 --> 00:50:53.380
job treated it like oh well it's like you're getting
1015
00:50:53.420 --> 00:50:55.650
a mole removed I'm like bitch I am going to
1016
00:50:55.699 --> 00:51:01.630
have stitches in my mouth for five days that was
1017
00:51:01.650 --> 00:51:04.550
the attitude like I always felt like how dare you
1018
00:51:04.590 --> 00:51:07.840
be a human being don't ever get cancer don't yeah
1019
00:51:07.889 --> 00:51:10.079
like and the attitude like oh well better not be
1020
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:14.909
cancer like whoa like just always that attitude of like
1021
00:51:15.110 --> 00:51:17.710
you can't have any health problems like at least in
1022
00:51:17.750 --> 00:51:20.440
porn like if you get sick they don't want you
1023
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to shoot they're like no stay away from us we
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don't want cats whatever the hell you have like don't
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00:51:24.579 --> 00:51:27.280
come to shoot it's okay we'll reschedule later like.
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Well, first of all, real fast question. Then I have
1027
00:51:32.260 --> 00:51:34.719
my last question here for you. But if you get that,
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say you get that record and I understand you do
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00:51:37.539 --> 00:51:43.079
whatever you will get that record. And the guy from
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00:51:43.219 --> 00:51:45.500
Guinness is at the end and he's got his hat
1031
00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:48.750
and he goes, oh, hello. Are you using real name
1032
00:51:48.789 --> 00:51:49.730
or using stage name?
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00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:52.380
Stage name, but should I do it?
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If I get people to pay for it, it's $ 20, 000.
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00:51:55.559 --> 00:51:57.619
Get the fuck out of here. I'll let him have
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the record. Get out of here.
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00:51:59.179 --> 00:52:01.539
Should I pay for it, guys?
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00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:03.179
I don't know. Weigh in.
1039
00:52:03.239 --> 00:52:04.829
DM me with your donations.
1040
00:52:05.110 --> 00:52:09.289
DM me with your donations. It sounds more like Jade's wondering,
1041
00:52:09.530 --> 00:52:12.030
should you pay for it, guys? In which case, I
1042
00:52:12.070 --> 00:52:13.929
would say yes, sure.
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00:52:14.690 --> 00:52:18.070
No, seriously, my friend, not friend, she's just like a
1044
00:52:18.489 --> 00:52:23.090
chick I support that's She's like a pro fucking skateboarder.
1045
00:52:23.590 --> 00:52:27.349
Brooke does everything like now she's a pro skateboarder. And
1046
00:52:27.369 --> 00:52:29.809
I think Red Bull even sponsors her. But I followed
1047
00:52:29.849 --> 00:52:31.630
her journey for like the past few years. She's made
1048
00:52:31.670 --> 00:52:35.969
some contact. We're like online acquaintances. She said it was
1049
00:52:36.179 --> 00:52:39.099
thirty thousand dollars for her and they upped it. They
1050
00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:41.320
said originally it was twenty thousand. But that because she
1051
00:52:41.340 --> 00:52:44.719
was an influencer and would inevitably profit from it that, oh,
1052
00:52:44.739 --> 00:52:45.920
you have to add ten thousand.
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00:52:46.380 --> 00:52:48.219
So I was like, oh, man. She was like, yeah.
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00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:50.300
So if you break a world record, because I asked
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her a couple of weeks, she was like, yeah, just
1056
00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:53.670
letting you know, if you break a world record, it's
1057
00:52:53.789 --> 00:52:56.869
very expensive. If you want the history books, I'm like,
1058
00:52:56.889 --> 00:52:58.329
that's such a scam.
1059
00:52:58.349 --> 00:53:00.889
That's insane. I've never heard that before. That's great. I
1060
00:53:00.929 --> 00:53:02.110
believe it. And that's crazy.
1061
00:53:02.219 --> 00:53:02.840
Oh, yeah.
1062
00:53:06.250 --> 00:53:08.269
Last question for you, Jade, where do we go from here?
1063
00:53:08.550 --> 00:53:11.829
Where is a plateau or a goal or something you
1064
00:53:11.849 --> 00:53:14.550
want to hit that'll take you to the next level
1065
00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:20.539
of feeling not accepted? You're accepted in the industry, but validation.
1066
00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:22.420
What is the next level that you want to go
1067
00:53:22.500 --> 00:53:26.250
to where you go? Oh, that'll that'll make me personally
1068
00:53:26.329 --> 00:53:27.449
feel level up.
1069
00:53:28.690 --> 00:53:32.409
I want to not like I don't want to retire
1070
00:53:32.550 --> 00:53:35.940
anytime soon, but I want to learn and fulfill like
1071
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:39.139
studio positions like if they have them. So like, you know,
1072
00:53:39.219 --> 00:53:41.440
seeing like the behind the scenes stuff or like even
1073
00:53:41.500 --> 00:53:44.619
if there's like side hustle work as like a side
1074
00:53:44.739 --> 00:53:47.949
hustle accountant or finance stuff like that, like I want
1075
00:53:48.010 --> 00:53:50.210
to see how it works so that one day in
1076
00:53:50.230 --> 00:53:54.280
the future when I open my future studio, Yeah, like
1077
00:53:54.429 --> 00:53:56.320
I would love to see how it works from the
1078
00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:59.320
admin side and from the logistics side, because I think
1079
00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:02.340
it's so important. Like, obviously, I'm talent and it's nice.
1080
00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:04.940
I have the view as talent of this business. But
1081
00:54:04.980 --> 00:54:09.059
I also want the view from like a business standpoint.
1082
00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:12.599
And how how do you run different studios depending on
1083
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:15.659
like who you're hiring and how often you're shooting? So yeah.
1084
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:19.360
That's the goal. And so eventually start my own Web
1085
00:54:19.409 --> 00:54:22.250
site while I'm still my plan is to stay in
1086
00:54:22.429 --> 00:54:25.090
it as talent for at least five to 10 years.
1087
00:54:25.170 --> 00:54:27.289
So like I got along, I got a long while
1088
00:54:27.530 --> 00:54:30.150
before I say goodbye as a performer.
1089
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:33.719
She'll probably have the studio up in two years and
1090
00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:37.159
continue performing for another 20 because that's just what she
1091
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:39.719
wants to do. Ladies and gentlemen, my guest today, Jade Green,
1092
00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:44.280
you know exactly where to find her at. Jade Green VIP.
1093
00:54:44.340 --> 00:54:46.989
There's an E at the end of green links to
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00:54:47.090 --> 00:54:49.530
all of our social media in the episode description below.
1095
00:54:49.750 --> 00:54:51.969
Like we always say, support the content creators that come
1096
00:54:52.010 --> 00:54:54.590
on the show. Pay for her Guinness World Record. Why
1097
00:54:54.610 --> 00:54:55.590
are you being so cheap?
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00:54:55.909 --> 00:54:58.570
You know, it's going to be my campaign. Everybody pay
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00:54:58.590 --> 00:55:02.920
for my I don't need a handbag. Just please.
1100
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Here's how does it have to work? So do we
1101
00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:08.320
have to do real quick, real fast? I'm sorry. Do
1102
00:55:08.340 --> 00:55:10.519
we need to build up to it? Does it like
1103
00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:13.239
I'm at 12 with her at 14 or do you
1104
00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:17.219
have to get to 14 and go, guys, pay me,
1105
00:55:17.260 --> 00:55:19.539
put in the we'll do the donation to go fund
1106
00:55:19.579 --> 00:55:23.340
me the whatever. Now we I am on the I'm tied.
1107
00:55:23.579 --> 00:55:25.119
I'm on the cusp. It's me.
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00:55:25.389 --> 00:55:26.610
I don't know what a good idea.
1109
00:55:26.639 --> 00:55:27.969
What's the better strategy?
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00:55:28.739 --> 00:55:31.519
As soon as I like tie him, then yeah, the
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one after that would be the, the beat.
1112
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Um, so yeah, I.
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Think that's a great idea.
1114
00:55:38.409 --> 00:55:39.929
I think I'm going to start campaigning.
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Well, my fans like are always welcome to come to
1116
00:55:42.650 --> 00:55:45.630
races as long as they're respectful. Like I do, I
1117
00:55:45.670 --> 00:55:49.809
do require like people keep their, their, uh, conversations PG
1118
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because there's families around it. It's like, there are kids around.
1119
00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:56.849
So like, you know have social norms um we can
1120
00:55:56.869 --> 00:55:59.610
always talk dirty over text or like over you know
1121
00:55:59.630 --> 00:56:01.949
i'm right there we can talk on only fans it's
1122
00:56:01.989 --> 00:56:06.010
fine um but i tell people keep it respectful you're
1123
00:56:06.030 --> 00:56:08.349
always welcome to come to a race or i go
1124
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to all the like expos most of the time the
1125
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next one i'm going to is exotic new jersey so
1126
00:56:13.219 --> 00:56:17.300
come say hi like come on the show come say hello.
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00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:21.090
Oh yeah Ladies and gentlemen, Jade Green. Jade, thank you
1128
00:56:21.110 --> 00:56:23.269
so much for your time today. I think you've changed
1129
00:56:23.329 --> 00:56:26.389
my life in a profound way. And I don't know
1130
00:56:26.449 --> 00:56:30.630
if that's good or bad, but we will see. Okay. Jade,
1131
00:56:30.670 --> 00:56:31.369
thank you for coming on.
1132
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Thank you.