Pam Keith

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War is immoral, poverty is immoral,
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racism is immoral,
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police brutality is immoral,
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oppression is immoral,
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genocide is immoral,
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imperialism is immoral.
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This country represents all those things.
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Everybody, I'm glad to be back.
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This week,
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the Democrats swept the key races and the
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referendums with Prop.
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Fifty passing in California and actual
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leftists winning major seats like Mamdani,
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a socialist who beat out ex-governor Cuomo
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for New York City mayor.
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Mamdani will have to deal with the city's
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police state, an angry president.
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But there's no debating that his victory
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and all the other GOP losses across the
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country represent an early referendum on
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Trump and Project twenty twenty five.
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My guest this week ran for federal office
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not once, not twice, but three times.
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So she knows a little bit about what
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it's like as a Black woman to face
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not only the GOP and the far right,
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but also the Democratic machine.
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A Florida-based former Navy JAG officer,
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civil rights attorney,
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and firm executive director,
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Pam Keith is everything you'd want in a
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leader.
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Unafraid, unbought, unbossed,
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and all that.
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Plus, like Mamdani, she's captivating,
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as you'll see.
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Yet, unlike Mamdani,
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she didn't win any of her political bids.
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Why?
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Was it geography, race, gender, timing?
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We'll find out.
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This is awkward,
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and this is global warning.
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Don't forget, you gotta like,
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you gotta comment, subscribe,
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and become a super fan for those exclusive
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extras.
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On episode three,
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Pam Keith takes us behind the scenes
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discussing her runs for office,
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the most recent races,
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the state of the Democratic Party as
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opposition to the far-right agenda,
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and much more.
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Pam, thank you so much for joining me.
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I know everyone wants to hear about your
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runs for office,
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but before we even go there,
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give me your rundown of election season
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November, twenty twenty five.
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What are the biggest wins?
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Were there any losses?
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And what can we do to turn election
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victories into actual movement momentum?
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Well, first of all,
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thank you for having me.
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I think there are a lot of messages
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that came across that election night.
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Different kinds of Democrats were able to
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win in different areas.
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I don't think you can say that Mamdami
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speaks for all of the victories or that
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Spanberger and Sherrill speak for all of
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the victories.
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They don't.
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However,
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The pushback against Republican
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leadership, I don't think you can,
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that's the thread that seems to be common
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to all of the victories from coast to
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coast, from north to south, be it federal,
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be it state, be it mayor's races,
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school board races, referendums,
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you name it,
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the voters came out and voted against the
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Republicans.
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That's the common thread that we can see.
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I think there are some seriously important
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tectonic reverberations that are going
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through both the Republican Party and the
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Democratic Party,
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because you really cannot
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It is impossible to overstate how
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exceptional the Mamdani campaign was.
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Having run three campaigns,
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there are so many X's and O's you
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have to get right.
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Even though it was a mayoral race,
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it was a mayoral race in a population
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that is more...
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Bigger than most senatorial races.
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Right.
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The population that he had to connect to
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was bigger,
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more diverse than most senatorial races
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and certainly the vast majority of
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congressional races.
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So if you want to take by comparison,
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look at AOC,
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how her win was so eye opening.
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Well,
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her win was a small slice of what
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Mom Donnie had to carry.
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And so you think about how he did
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that.
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He did that with substantially less money.
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And I don't think people pay enough
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attention to the fact that New York has
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public funding of elections,
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which is something that every democracy
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loving person should be fighting for.
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But that he did it with sort of
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this insurgent, you know,
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he sort of took from AOC that insurgent
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idea,
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that concept that every person I can get
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to knock a door is worth ten thousand
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dollars in a contribution.
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And and he ran with that.
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But he also had,
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as many people have noted,
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exceptional message discipline.
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He had an incredible...
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And he himself is a nimble, creative,
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funny, warm, disarming personality.
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And it was also, I think,
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a little bit of a perfect timing situation
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as well.
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I don't think you could have found a
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more...
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unappealing candidate than Andrew Cuomo
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for people on the left.
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So there was a variety.
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I definitely agree.
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But all of that aside,
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I have to say,
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the boogeyman of democratic socialism
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took a major blow to the head because
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the belief that calling yourself a
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democratic socialist is a sort of
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political third rail that necessarily
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means you are unelectable.
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I just don't think that's true anymore.
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And I think his win is so visible
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both here and abroad and so inspiring
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that you're going to see literally
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hundreds,
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if not thousands of candidates running as
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democratic socialist proudly on a populist
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platform.
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I love that.
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And what an incredible answer.
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This is exactly why I had you on.
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And what an interesting perspective,
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comparing it in size and scope to AOC.
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I totally agree when it comes to
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you know,
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more politicians becoming further
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empowered to truly be themselves on the
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campaign trail and to actually run perhaps
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when they were afraid to previously.
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What about that movement momentum?
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Do you see this translating?
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And you did mention abroad,
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and I think historically abroad,
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protest movements and elections have been
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more inextricably connected than here.
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But do you see here or abroad Mamdani's
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victory having influence over more than
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just elections?
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I absolutely think so.
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I mean, I think part of it,
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like I said, part of it,
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that sort of overt demonization of Muslims
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and the overt Islamophobia turned a lot of
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people off.
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I also think that he put to rest
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the notion that all Jewish people firmly
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support Israel and what Israel does,
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and the fact that he was able to
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pull
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You know, what,
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thirty six percent of the Jewish vote to
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me is extremely telling.
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But I also think that the most important
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thing, in my opinion,
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that he brought to the table is is
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that it is OK to campaign for big
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things.
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I think what we have in the contrast,
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the juxtaposition is, you know,
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we have Democrats in Washington, D.C.,
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fighting tooth and nail for subsidies that
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are still too expensive for most people.
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Right.
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And what he said is it's OK to
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actually campaign on something as bold as
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Medicare for all and single payer health
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care,
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because I don't see a great merit in
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fighting for the health care that most of
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us still can't afford and still find
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crippling.
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Right.
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If we're going to fight,
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fight for free health care.
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Fight for the thing that will change
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people's lives forever.
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Fight for something that's going to
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completely take out the insurance company
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middleman that serves no societal purpose
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other than to make shareholders wealthy.
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Like to me,
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I love that Zohra Mamdani said universal
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childcare and asked why is it that we
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fully understand the merit of K through
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twelve or even pre-K
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But we don't understand the merit of
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having child care so that people have the
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peace of mind to go to work and
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actually earn the money to raise a family.
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I love that he went big,
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but he also was smart enough to not
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go so big that it was inconceivable or
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unattained.
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He picked three things.
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He was smart.
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so on message about those three things he
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knew chapter verse and footnotes he is not
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a flash in the pan you know kind
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of he's a wonk he is a true
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policy wonk who can talk about regulation
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and obstacles and government he he
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actually knows what he's talking about i
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love a policy what a rarity
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It's such a rarity to have somebody that
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has that kind of social dynamism,
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that kind of warmth and cultural fluidity,
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and also be this intellect and really dig
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into the weeds of policy.
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He's a unique person.
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political creature,
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and I don't want to ever say that
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what he has done can be replicated.
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But what he has done can be an
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inspiration or a blueprint for others to
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take on,
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square on the things that most people do
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actually care about, which is,
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I need to be able to afford this
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life.
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Exactly.
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I need to be able to afford this
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life.
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Perfect.
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yeah and what mom donnie was saying was
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like and i think more and more candidates
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on the left are saying is the fat
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cats with their rolexes and their five
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houses telling us that we would be damaged
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by the peace of mind they have in
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full access to health care full access to
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transportation full access to housing full
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access to everything
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And the peace of mind that comes with
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that and the joy and the grace that
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comes with that shouldn't be for all of
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us.
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It would be terrible if all of us
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had that lack of fear and pressure and
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stress.
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it's very clear that they enjoy the status
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quo and want to keep it that way.
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And actually,
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that's not even a fair statement anymore.
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They want to expand that polarization.
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And that's why I also appreciate your
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focus on economics,
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because I believe that across political
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lines,
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across the social construct of race lines
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and everything else,
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we can all connect as being part of
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the ninety nine percent.
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You mentioned Medicare for all.
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That's a great example of one of the
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things that could benefit the working
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poor, the unhoused and everybody else,
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the shrinking middle class and something
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very close to my heart.
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There's so much illness in my family,
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so much disability.
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And that's a struggle for obviously not
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only us, but so many other people.
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And in spite of all these positives we
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saw this week,
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maybe a week or two ago,
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it became a fact or as close to
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fact as anything can be that in spite
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of two and three Americans being one
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paycheck away from homelessness,
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In Utah,
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they're building a literal concentration
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camp for unhoused people modeled after
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alligator Auschwitz.
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So what does this tell us about our
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possible future?
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Yes,
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we may have more empowered local
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organizers,
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more empowered true-to-self politicians.
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But what we're fighting,
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I haven't seen in my lifetime.
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Nor have I. Although, if we're honest,
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we haven't seen it
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where it might affect white people.
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It's always been there when it affects
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black people, right?
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Like the work camp life is the prison
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population in Alabama and Louisiana and
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Mississippi and always has been, right?
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So let's be honest about that.
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I will say that
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What we are seeing when Trump got elected
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was this sort of put on steroids,
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the mentality of the oligarchic mindset
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that
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they are uniquely endowed with the skills
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and the right to extract value out of
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this world to their benefit.
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And that somehow their intelligence or
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their cleverness entitles them to run the
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game in a way that ensures the maximum
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extraction of value from whatever they put
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their hands on.
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And what we are seeing is that that
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mindset is now going beyond the one
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percent and it's trickling down to the
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five percent to the ten percent.
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And you see this, which is, you know,
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you see all these layoffs.
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Why are all these layoffs happening?
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They're not necessary.
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They're happening because the
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CEO set is telling themselves that
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employees are feeling themselves too much.
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We need to make the job market bad
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so that they'll accept lower wages and
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they'll accept lower benefits.
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So they collude on that.
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They collude on, oh,
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We need to not have portable health care
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because people will stay in bad jobs if
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their employer is the only one that
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connects them to health care.
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So we got to make sure that they
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don't have portable or affordable health
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care and that there's a big boogeyman out
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there.
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We don't want an Affordable Care Act.
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We don't want an exchange where you can
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go be an entrepreneur and get health care
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that you can actually afford.
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We want you to be somebody's minion and
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somebody's doorstop and somebody's slave.
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That's what we want.
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And if you look at it macroscopically and
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you look at all the dots connected,
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what are they trying to create?
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They're trying to create an America where
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Americans are afraid, alone,
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financially unstable, powerless,
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and angry at each other all the time.
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You nailed it.
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And that's what people experience on the
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micro level now as a result of that.
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So I'm assuming these types of choices
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that are being made at the highest levels
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and the, you know,
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the oligarchical collusion or the
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trillions spent on war, policing,
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prisons and surveillance
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disproportionately targeting black,
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brown and indigenous people.
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are the types of things that caused you
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to run for office.
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We don't have a lot of time left,
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but okay, I knew I was right.
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So was there any inflection point?
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I loved the way you started your last
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response because as you put it,
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this has always affected certain people.
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It's now hitting white people,
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which is why there's such a massive
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response.
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Was there an inflection point at any point
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growing up or in your early career?
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And then let's close it out with what
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everyone's dying to know.
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How do you overcome as a more left
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candidate, the centrist Dem machine?
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Well, it's not like I was successful.
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However, I will tell you that I ran,
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I went into politics because I felt like
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I was uniquely positioned to address,
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I had a platform of my own.
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I didn't wanna just be another vote on
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the democratic platform.
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I wanted to explain things and advocate
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for things and be a pragmatist.
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And to me,
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so I was one of the first people
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who ran
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nationally on Medicare for all and single
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payer.
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In the election,
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in the twenty sixteen election,
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I was out there talking about the lack
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of a necessity for this insurance
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middleman.
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Like, what is the point of insurance?
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Like, what does it do for us?
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Right.
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I believed that there were practical,
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pragmatic solutions to so many things.
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Veterans care was a big issue for me
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because I'm a veteran and I
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Why is it that we always have money
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to go to war and to make warriors,
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but not to care for warriors?
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So I ran on the idea that the
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veterans budget,
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the VA budget has to be part of
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the military budget.
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And that every time that you increase
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military spending,
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you have to concomitantly increase VA
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spending.
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And it has to be proportional.
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And every veteran I talked to loved that
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idea, be they Democrat, Republican,
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or independent.
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That was a pragmatic solution to this
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constant underfunding of the needs of
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veterans whom we chew up and spit out,
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be it through the way we treat people
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with PTSD,
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the way we treat people who have mental
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health issues, addiction issues,
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domestic violence issues,
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and the list goes on and on, right?
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So I ran not because I wanted to
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be a cog in the Democratic machine.
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And the problem that I came into was
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that the machine was only interested in
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candidates that they were certain would be
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cogs in the machine.
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And so I'm incredibly excited about
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someone like Graham Plattner,
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like somebody like Mazora Mamdani.
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I'm not claiming I know everything about
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every candidate out there,
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but I am excited about candidates who
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stand aside and say,
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I'm not trying to be a cog in
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anybody's machine.
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Right.
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I am here to talk about the issues
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and the answers.
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And that's what I did when I ran.
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I mean, on environmental issue,
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I remember I was completely undermined by
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Big Sugar in Florida because I wanted the
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government to use eminent domain to take
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Big Sugar land for the purpose of
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Everglades restoration and preservation.
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There are great uses of eminent domain.
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My mom did that,
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and it was like one of the first
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local organizing victories I saw.
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It meant so much.
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She saved hundreds of acres of open space,
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marshland in Connecticut,
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and obviously there's a ton of that in
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Florida.
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That's a great example of one of the
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ways the system fights against certain
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candidates,
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those that are truly not financed by big
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corporations.
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Um, and, and,
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and so then obviously as someone saying I
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didn't win,
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you can always learn from your mistakes.
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So were there any,
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is there anything you can look at?
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Yeah.
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What would you do differently?
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I mean,
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the first thing you have to understand
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about running for office is that no matter
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how much you think you know,
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you truly do not know.
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The thing that I thought I knew was
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policy, which I did.
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The thing that I did not know was
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politics, right?
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Because there is an end game that is
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played.
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It's a patronage game.
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And I didn't understand the patronage
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game.
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I didn't understand who's toes out.
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I offended black female elected officials
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in Florida because I ran for Senate and
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they believed that they were going to be
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the first black woman to run for Senate.
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Twenty years from now.
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They were offended that they thought I
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jumped the line.
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I didn't jump the line.
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There was nobody in line.
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That sucks.
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Right?
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I could literally write volumes on things
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that I learned and things that I did
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wrong.
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Pam, we're going to do that.
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We're going to take it offline.
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So when you guys watch this, stay tuned.
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It's possible.
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I'm very convincing.
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All right.
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So, Pam, I kept you for twenty minutes.
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It seems to be like a good amount
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of time.
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That's where we seem to be ending each
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of our shows.
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So thank you so much for coming on.
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This was as great as I thought it
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would be.
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Do you have any closing statements for the
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global warning audience?
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I mean,
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the world is aflame in so many different
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ways.
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The one thing we cannot afford is to
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check out and to believe that it is
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impossible to sort it back out.
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So, you know,
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every ray of hope should be cling to
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with all of our strength.
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And Mamdani to me is a ray of
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hope.
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Perfect.
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Thank you.
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That was a great close.
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Everybody, thank you for watching.
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Don't forget to like and subscribe and all
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of that stuff.
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I'll be back in a week.
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is.
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It's a simple Google search away.
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I'm on Blue Sky at Pam Keith DC.
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Perfect.
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War is immoral, poverty is immoral,
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racism is immoral,
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police brutality is immoral,
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oppression is immoral,
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genocide is immoral,
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imperialism is immoral.
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This country represents all those things.