Harmony: Welcome to Girls Will Yap, a true crime and missing person podcast where we share stories with heart. In today's episode, we're covering active cases and missing person spotlights, and we're sharing our personal thoughts based on publicly available information. These cases are ongoing, the details may change, and everyone mentioned is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Thank you for tuning in and don't forget to subscribe. How have you been doing?
Sage: great. How are you?
Harmony: Girl, super busy. I'm ready for
Sage: Yes.
Harmony: the weekend.
Sage: I don't know, I'm I'm gonna be busy this weekend too though.
Harmony: Honestly I say that and I have a dinner Friday, I have things to do with my mother Saturday, I have a brunch Sunday, and then also have dinner with my fiance's dad on Sunday as well.
Sage: okay. We're going to a renaissance fair.
Harmony: I went to one last year. It was actually super fun.
Sage: Yeah, we go every year now. it just I kind of think they need to push them out to like October and November because it's going to be nearly 90 degrees. So needless to say, we will not be dressing up.
Harmony: Absolutely not. It's too hot for that.
Sage: there will be people dressing up and sweating like crazy. God bless them. That's right. What
Harmony: Amen. They are committed.
Sage: do you have a missing person you would like to highlight?
Harmony: Yes, this week I would like to highlight Miguel Oliveris, who went missing September second, two thousand six in Portland, Maine. He was last seen leaving at what was then the Platinum Plus Club on Riverside Street at about one AM. So at that time he was wearing a gray camouflage long sleeve shirt with a white T shirt over it, green cargo shorts, and white sneakers. He was twenty four at the time. And police do believe that he is deceased and that foul play was involved. so an update on this case is actually two weeks ago they identified three potential suspects after 20 years. So
Sage: wow.
Harmony: two of those suspects are deceased. One is alive and immediately lauried up. his mom is pleading, if you know anything, call the Portland Police Department at 207-874-8575. after twenty years she really just needs to know what happened to her son.
Sage: Well, I think there's two lessons to be learned here. First of all, you never leave a club by yourself.
Harmony: Also that's good
Sage: Yeah. And secondly, there's always hope, even if it is twenty years later, we can always get closure.
Harmony: Yes, if you know something, say something. Help that family out.
Sage: That's right.
Harmony: Yeah. What about you? Who are you highlighting this week?
Sage: I am highlighting Monique Vesquez, age thirty six. She went missing September second of this year, twenty twenty six. She is from Farmington, New Mexico. She is Native American, 5'4. She has black hair and dark eyes. She was last seen at the Sunray Park Casino. There have been rumors of sightings in Chama, New Mexico, but right now they are just rumors. If you have any information about Monique, please call the Farmington Police Department at 505-599-1054.
Harmony: Yes, let's let's bring her home.
Sage: Yes. Well I have some news about Tasia Fortune.
Harmony: Yes, ma'am.
Sage: You remember we talked about her. It's been a few weeks.
Harmony: Mm-hmm.
Sage: So there's an update in the case. She was a black 29-year-old woman who was found hanging from the tree behind an abandoned house in Mississippi. Her death was ruled a murder and a suspect has been arrested. Harkez Ratliff, age 51, has been arrested for the crime, but police are not releasing any more information than that out of respect for the family and for the integrity of the case. So I'm glad at least they are working on it.
Harmony: Absolutely find out what happened and Put him under the jail.
Sage: Okay, but here's the twist. He's a black man and he hung her from a tree.
Harmony: When you told me that when you told me that it made my blood boil. 'Cause I'm like, what are we doing? First off, don't murder anybody. And then it's like the level that it takes to then hang somebody's body from a tree? Demonic.
Sage: Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I also need to talk about Lindsay Clancy. I really did not want to talk about her this week, but there has been a significant update. The lone holdout juror has a restraining order against him. He beat his wife and his nephew two separate occasions. This means he committed perjury on his juror questionnaire. It also explains the attitude the other jurors described that he had during deliberation. Recently the judge has sealed the names of the jurors, though the one lone juror has been outed on social media.
Harmony: People are gonna find out who that was.
Sage: I also have more information. Patrick and his new wife Rachel, they will be on 60 Minutes this Sunday, September 20th. What do you think about that?
Harmony: feel like it's weird. Like why are you guys doing like a press run?
Sage: I guess I think they're trying to get ahead of something. I think they may foresee legal problems down the road. What do you think?
Harmony: see that too and I feel like sometimes that I feel like the three children have gotten lost in the
Sage: I know.
Harmony: attention of this case and that makes me really sad.
Sage: I do agree with you on that. but with that said, even though the three children deserve justice, okay.
Harmony: Absolutely they do.
Sage: But I don't want them to retry this case, do you?
Harmony: Honestly I don't know what different conclusion that they would come to.
Sage: No, no, I don't think I don't think they would.
Harmony: Yeah.
Sage: Also, I need to talk about the Venton County, Ohio case. The mother, Elizabeth Sider, was in court a couple of days ago, big as a house, very, very pregnant. she pleaded not guilty to every single thing that she's being charged with. And more bond has been added, so she will not be getting out anytime soon. here's my thing. She is 33 years old and she's been pregnant approximately 170 months of her life. This will be interesting to to see how it goes.
Harmony: Yeah, I can't even imagine being pregnant that many times in my life.
Sage: It's kinda heartbreaking, isn't it?
Harmony: Yes. That's too much. I feel like that's way too much for one person's body to go through.
Sage: I know, yeah. this is a weird case I need to talk to you about. I don't know if you've heard of this or not. Have you heard about the butt sniffer case?
Harmony: it on your notes and I was like ha ha ha ha What is this?
Sage: Listen, it's funny. Now we are not making light of anything like that because there are victims. Okay.
Harmony: Correct,
Sage: But in Southern California, they have a re-offending sexual offender called the serial butt sniffer. His name is Calice Crowder, age 39. He is on the sex offender registry. His offense is sniffing women's butts in public. I literally watched a video of him doing this, by the way. It was weird. So
Harmony: Yeah.
Sage: again, he's been sniffing. This has landed him in jail for 170 days. unfortunately, this does not count as a felony because it does not involve touching, just sniffing. So, Harmony, again, as you often say, you can find consenting women.
Harmony: Exactly. There's probably somebody on OnlyFans or something that would willingly let you do this to them and you could pay them for it. Leave people alone.
Sage: Exactly. It was weird. I recommend if anybody can go find a video of this, do it because it was so strange.
Harmony: Yeah, I'm creeped out.
Sage: it's been a few months, so you may not remember this. Do you remember Caleb Flynn? he's the American Idol dad who's suspected of killing his wife.
Harmony: Yes, yes, I do remember that.
Sage: Okay. Yeah, that's been a while. he was a worship pastor at one time. He killed his wife, Ashley, and she was a preschool teacher and she was a volleyball coach. She took care of their two kids. He additioned on American Idol in 2013 and just gushed about his wife being wonderful and beautiful. It's always those men harmony. Yeah. his nine one one call seems a bit suspicious. I mean, the guy can sing, but he definitely cannot act. The crime scene it seemed staged to the point that a large refrigerator had been moved in front of the garage door. Like if you're gonna break
Harmony: Shady.
Sage: into a house, you're not gonna be moving a refrigerator. the police were immediately suspicious. note that Caleb was having an affair with this previous co-worship leader. Also, there was a very hefty life insurance policy with Caleb as the beneficiary. I think it's pretty clear what this guy was thinking with. And it was not his head. Not that one. That's right, yeah.
Harmony: Well, not the one he should have been thinking with. But I I swear on my life, there's so many times in these cases where these religious men are they'll have an affair, they'll commit adulteries just fine, but they can't get a divorce because that is a sin. But the thing to do is to kill your wife instead. Like make that make sense to me.
Sage: think we need to let these religious people know that divorce can be a blessing.
Harmony: Exactly. Let people go. If that relationship no longer serves you, let people go. You don't have to kill them. That's crazy.
Sage: It is crazy. while on the phone with nine one one, he said he had two daughters in the house and he was acting as if there was still somebody in the house attempting to kill. The operator asked if he was with the kids. He said he was not because they were asleep in their rooms. I found that extremely fishy.
Harmony: Exactly, because what parent worth their soul is not trying to be with their kids, especially if you suspect that somebody's in the house. You know?
Sage: Don't you know it? Like yeah. his trial starts september eighteenth. It will be televised and I'll keep everybody up to date on it.
Harmony: Absolutely. Thank you.
Sage: yes, you're welcome. Also, Eric James, age 53, was a principal at Brook High School in Walesburg, West Virginia. Then he got caught videoing girls changing clothes in the locker room. The janitor found a device that looked like a key fob and a device that looked like an ink pen. Upon further inspection he determined that they were actually cameras. Can you imagine how freaked out that janitor must have been?
Harmony: Even imagine how you find yourself in that situation, but I am also glad that he went and reported this to the proper authorities.
Sage: Well that was one of my points I wanted to make. He did not go up the proper chain of command. 'Cause that would have been the principle. Now I find that a little weird too. Did he did he think maybe it was the principle?
Harmony: Or if maybe he was like, You know what? It could be anybody, so I'm just gonna go straight to the police.
Sage: I mean good on him, 'cause if he had gone to the principal, nothing would have been done.
Harmony: Not at all, 'cause he was the creep doing it. Whew.
Sage: Well, the guy denies any guilt, but he's literally
Harmony: Course he does.
Sage: on the videos getting the angles just so so. can deny it all he wants. The proof is there on the videos. there's a class action civil suit brought about by several girls and their parents. unfortunately he has a wife and daughters. He is still in prison with a bond of a hundred and twenty-five thousand. And I wanna point out that his wife did not bail him out.
Harmony: she should and she should not. She should be getting a attorney so she can leave him.
Sage: That's right. So good for her. But this
Harmony: Yes.
Sage: story is getting so old. Middle-aged men preying on young girls.
Harmony: It's disgusting. I was reading something the other day that to catch a predator got cancelled because they kept finding politician and judges. How disgusting.
Sage: I also heard teachers too. I think maybe it's just bad publicity that so many teachers are we seriously in the society that's that bad?
Harmony: feel like we are in the hellmouth. for me, I feel like a lot of these people go into these jobs to be teachers, to be coaches, to be pastors, to have access to young kids to do this type of nasty things to them.
Sage: Okay, so here's my question. Are we just more aware of it now or has it gotten worse?
Harmony: could be a little of both. I think we are more aware because social media and we see it happening more often and I think people are more willing to actually speak up about it. I think before when things would happen to folks you kinda kept it in the dark, you didn't say anything about it. It was taboo. But no, put these predators on blast. We need to know.
Sage: I think you're right. There was shame for the victims back I know when I was growing up it was. So thank God that has changed.
Harmony: Yeah. Amen, because it is never the victim's fault.
Sage: Well, I've got a really bad story out of Ohio. That shouldn't surprise you, right? I know, I know. Send help, yeah.
Harmony: Ohio's crazy girl. Mm-hmm.
Sage: Daniel Miller, a Londonville Amish man, was arrested September eighth of this year for ten or more counts of crimes associated with dogs. They ranged from tormenting animals to having sex with animals. And by the way, he also ran a business that charged people for having sex with animals. So it wasn't just him having sex with the animals. I want those people found and arrested too. What the heck, Harmony?
Harmony: brain just had a stroke. He had a business to pay people to abuse animals. Well they paid him to either way. Disgust
Sage: Well they paid him. Yeah. Yeah.
Harmony: like bird in hell, sorry.
Sage: Yeah. So more than seventy dogs were rescued. They are now with the Humane Society and I want to say God bless the Humane Society, by the way.
Harmony: Amen. They do the Lord's work.
Sage: They do. So this man Miller is due in court October thirteenth. He's now out on bond. Now a couple things I watched the video of him getting arrested and I need to point because I do live in Amish country here, okay? But I live in like the old order Amish, which has its own issues, but these people are more new order, so they had like a really nice log cabin. Of course the dogs paid for that and they were like videoing everything on their really nice iPhones. So these things happen in the Amish community. And I know that might surprise a whole lot of people, but puppy meals are a problem in the Amish community. it's a big time and they sell to like pet stores. So a lot I can say about that. Also, bestiality is a problem and incest is a problem. This is what happens when you don't empower those who are young and innocent with education and a voice.
Harmony: Absolutely. That's too much. That's wow.
Sage: Yeah. So yeah, this is absolutely horrible, but not at all surprising to me, unfortunately.
Harmony: As a society I feel like we just get worse and worse.
Sage: I know, I know, but this is a really big story though, and I think they're going to make an example of him.
Harmony: they should and everybody who was working with him.
Sage: Which probably his family. But yeah, you're talking about those other perpetrators. Yeah, them too. Yeah. Let him start naming names.
Harmony: Period, throw all away.
Sage: So there's this woman named Julie Holloway Molina, age 56. She was the treasurer of the Aliso Naguel High School's Football Booster Club in Southern California. She stole over $400,000 from the booster club. First of all, how does a booster club have over $400,000?
Harmony: What are you guys using that money for? To rebuild the football field?
Sage: Hey. How are you raising that money? I need some tips over here.
Harmony: Friday night lights or something the the you know, that kind of thing.
Sage: don't you know it? Yeah. Well she used the four hundred thousand dollars to pay her credit cards, her mortgage, and her personal expenses. Harmony, as if she wouldn't get caught.
Harmony: swear to you, people are so dumb. People at my job will do things like this and it's like, we have records. We will find you.
Sage: It's about to get worse. she was arrested September eleventh, twenty twenty six. She was arraigned in federal court on charges of defrauding the club. She has pleaded not guilty and she's out on a ten thousand dollar bond, which I think is extremely low, by the way.
Harmony: It really is. She should still be in there.
Sage: And not guilty? Numbers don't lie.
Harmony: Exactly. People lie, numbers don't.
Sage: Then here it is, I discovered she's a CPA.
Harmony: Jesus on the main line. This is when I thought I heard it all.
Sage: So I know. I expect the officers will be going through all her client files as well. And she can serve up to 20 years in prison for each count. if she's found guilty of the school booster club alone, that's twenty years. And the woman is fifty-six.
Harmony: Yeah, she's not gonna make it out of there.
Sage: Yeah, that ha mortgage she was paying for, that doesn't even matter at this point.
Harmony: Exactly. That house is going in a foreclosure. Yeah, three
Sage: She's going to the big house.
Harmony: three hot cold meals in a cot is all she's gonna have.
Sage: That's right. Her lawyer is Alisa Viejo Mayor Max Duncan. Now, listen to what he had to say about his client's case. He said he felt deeply for all those volunteers who, quote, are now dealing with the consequences of alleged betrayal of that trust, end quote. Harmony lawyers will lawyer.
Harmony: They really will because honey, it's not alleged, but go off.
Sage: That's right. Yeah, my gosh. we shall see what happens with that.
Harmony: Yeah.
Sage: watching Wheel of Fortune with my great aunt when I was growing up was one of the highlights of my childhood. Did you watch it?
Harmony: I did, we would watch that in Jeopardy back in the day.
Sage: Yeah, 'cause it came r right after. And guess what? Golden Girls came on too. Yep. See that
Harmony: Golden Girls is my show. Mm-hmm.
Sage: was the beauty of not having a streaming service. We were all watching the same things.
Harmony: and that's when you could really have like water cooler talk and be like, did you see that episode last night? And it brought us together as a people. Now it don't happen.
Sage: It doesn't. Well Jim Thornton, the longtime announcer, has been fired while on a plane. Thornton was in the chat room for petos. He sent a few messages. Here's one of A couple of cute boys and a hot little girl. Here's another one. you can eat boy fee. I guess he thought he was funny. A passenger alerted the airline employees. The pilot had the police waiting for him up on landing. Ryan Seacrest is it going to take over for him. Now, can you imagine how amazing that pilot is to call that in and have the police waiting?
Harmony: shout out to the passenger who told and shout out
Sage: Yes.
Harmony: to the pilot who had the authorities on standby because you will not get away with this. You and all your nasty pedo friends can all go to jail.
Sage: So oddly enough, she also saw that he was responding to someone who said, You're on a plane and he's like, Yeah, man, no one's gonna see me though.
Harmony: dirty demon.
Sage: Well, I have a happy ending for you. That's right.
Harmony: Amen. We need it on this podcast.
Sage: It's not all bad news, right?
Harmony: Yeah, sometimes there's good updates.
Sage: That's right. Well, there's a 16-year-old girl from Springfield, Ohio, who was missing for 263 days. In December of 2025, she ran away from the Huckleberry House in Columbus, and that's a house for teens at risk. It was suspected that she was being kept in the house of her old science teacher, Job Binkley. Danielle Flint, a neighbor of Job Binkley, I wanted to give her a shout out because she's been vigilante about looking at that house. She said she didn't care if she was inside her house or outside. She was looking at that house all the time, looking for that girl. Because after two hundred and sixty three days, she's gonna make a sighting, right? this woman though, she was so invested in the girl, so shout out to her. But the police went to the teacher's house asking to search his house for that girl. And Binkley refused. Then the US Marshals kicked down his door on August 21st. They found the girl and she's been returned back to her mother's custody.
Harmony: I'm so glad that she is back with her family and I really hope that they are getting her into some type of therapy because my God is that traumatic to be kidnapped.
Sage: know, I know. he's been charged obviously with kidnapping. We don't really know what else he'll be charged with. It just kind of depends on the girl and what she claims has happened during those two hundred and sixty-three days.
Harmony: I'm praying for her. I can only imagine
Sage: Yeah.
Harmony: what she was put through. Mm. Sick.
Sage: I know. She's she's gonna need some therapy and let's hope she gets that. Yeah.
Harmony: Amen, I really do hope she gets it.
Sage: Well, I don't have anything else, do you?
Harmony: That's all the updates I had.
Sage: Okay, bye y'all.
Harmony: Thank you for joining us for another episode of Girls Will Yap. We love having you here to talk about true crime and missing persons. Follow us on all the socials at Girls Will Yap so you don't miss the conversations. As always, let's yap y'all.
Sage: great. How are you?
Harmony: Girl, super busy. I'm ready for
Sage: Yes.
Harmony: the weekend.
Sage: I don't know, I'm I'm gonna be busy this weekend too though.
Harmony: Honestly I say that and I have a dinner Friday, I have things to do with my mother Saturday, I have a brunch Sunday, and then also have dinner with my fiance's dad on Sunday as well.
Sage: okay. We're going to a renaissance fair.
Harmony: I went to one last year. It was actually super fun.
Sage: Yeah, we go every year now. it just I kind of think they need to push them out to like October and November because it's going to be nearly 90 degrees. So needless to say, we will not be dressing up.
Harmony: Absolutely not. It's too hot for that.
Sage: there will be people dressing up and sweating like crazy. God bless them. That's right. What
Harmony: Amen. They are committed.
Sage: do you have a missing person you would like to highlight?
Harmony: Yes, this week I would like to highlight Miguel Oliveris, who went missing September second, two thousand six in Portland, Maine. He was last seen leaving at what was then the Platinum Plus Club on Riverside Street at about one AM. So at that time he was wearing a gray camouflage long sleeve shirt with a white T shirt over it, green cargo shorts, and white sneakers. He was twenty four at the time. And police do believe that he is deceased and that foul play was involved. so an update on this case is actually two weeks ago they identified three potential suspects after 20 years. So
Sage: wow.
Harmony: two of those suspects are deceased. One is alive and immediately lauried up. his mom is pleading, if you know anything, call the Portland Police Department at 207-874-8575. after twenty years she really just needs to know what happened to her son.
Sage: Well, I think there's two lessons to be learned here. First of all, you never leave a club by yourself.
Harmony: Also that's good
Sage: Yeah. And secondly, there's always hope, even if it is twenty years later, we can always get closure.
Harmony: Yes, if you know something, say something. Help that family out.
Sage: That's right.
Harmony: Yeah. What about you? Who are you highlighting this week?
Sage: I am highlighting Monique Vesquez, age thirty six. She went missing September second of this year, twenty twenty six. She is from Farmington, New Mexico. She is Native American, 5'4. She has black hair and dark eyes. She was last seen at the Sunray Park Casino. There have been rumors of sightings in Chama, New Mexico, but right now they are just rumors. If you have any information about Monique, please call the Farmington Police Department at 505-599-1054.
Harmony: Yes, let's let's bring her home.
Sage: Yes. Well I have some news about Tasia Fortune.
Harmony: Yes, ma'am.
Sage: You remember we talked about her. It's been a few weeks.
Harmony: Mm-hmm.
Sage: So there's an update in the case. She was a black 29-year-old woman who was found hanging from the tree behind an abandoned house in Mississippi. Her death was ruled a murder and a suspect has been arrested. Harkez Ratliff, age 51, has been arrested for the crime, but police are not releasing any more information than that out of respect for the family and for the integrity of the case. So I'm glad at least they are working on it.
Harmony: Absolutely find out what happened and Put him under the jail.
Sage: Okay, but here's the twist. He's a black man and he hung her from a tree.
Harmony: When you told me that when you told me that it made my blood boil. 'Cause I'm like, what are we doing? First off, don't murder anybody. And then it's like the level that it takes to then hang somebody's body from a tree? Demonic.
Sage: Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I also need to talk about Lindsay Clancy. I really did not want to talk about her this week, but there has been a significant update. The lone holdout juror has a restraining order against him. He beat his wife and his nephew two separate occasions. This means he committed perjury on his juror questionnaire. It also explains the attitude the other jurors described that he had during deliberation. Recently the judge has sealed the names of the jurors, though the one lone juror has been outed on social media.
Harmony: People are gonna find out who that was.
Sage: I also have more information. Patrick and his new wife Rachel, they will be on 60 Minutes this Sunday, September 20th. What do you think about that?
Harmony: feel like it's weird. Like why are you guys doing like a press run?
Sage: I guess I think they're trying to get ahead of something. I think they may foresee legal problems down the road. What do you think?
Harmony: see that too and I feel like sometimes that I feel like the three children have gotten lost in the
Sage: I know.
Harmony: attention of this case and that makes me really sad.
Sage: I do agree with you on that. but with that said, even though the three children deserve justice, okay.
Harmony: Absolutely they do.
Sage: But I don't want them to retry this case, do you?
Harmony: Honestly I don't know what different conclusion that they would come to.
Sage: No, no, I don't think I don't think they would.
Harmony: Yeah.
Sage: Also, I need to talk about the Venton County, Ohio case. The mother, Elizabeth Sider, was in court a couple of days ago, big as a house, very, very pregnant. she pleaded not guilty to every single thing that she's being charged with. And more bond has been added, so she will not be getting out anytime soon. here's my thing. She is 33 years old and she's been pregnant approximately 170 months of her life. This will be interesting to to see how it goes.
Harmony: Yeah, I can't even imagine being pregnant that many times in my life.
Sage: It's kinda heartbreaking, isn't it?
Harmony: Yes. That's too much. I feel like that's way too much for one person's body to go through.
Sage: I know, yeah. this is a weird case I need to talk to you about. I don't know if you've heard of this or not. Have you heard about the butt sniffer case?
Harmony: it on your notes and I was like ha ha ha ha What is this?
Sage: Listen, it's funny. Now we are not making light of anything like that because there are victims. Okay.
Harmony: Correct,
Sage: But in Southern California, they have a re-offending sexual offender called the serial butt sniffer. His name is Calice Crowder, age 39. He is on the sex offender registry. His offense is sniffing women's butts in public. I literally watched a video of him doing this, by the way. It was weird. So
Harmony: Yeah.
Sage: again, he's been sniffing. This has landed him in jail for 170 days. unfortunately, this does not count as a felony because it does not involve touching, just sniffing. So, Harmony, again, as you often say, you can find consenting women.
Harmony: Exactly. There's probably somebody on OnlyFans or something that would willingly let you do this to them and you could pay them for it. Leave people alone.
Sage: Exactly. It was weird. I recommend if anybody can go find a video of this, do it because it was so strange.
Harmony: Yeah, I'm creeped out.
Sage: it's been a few months, so you may not remember this. Do you remember Caleb Flynn? he's the American Idol dad who's suspected of killing his wife.
Harmony: Yes, yes, I do remember that.
Sage: Okay. Yeah, that's been a while. he was a worship pastor at one time. He killed his wife, Ashley, and she was a preschool teacher and she was a volleyball coach. She took care of their two kids. He additioned on American Idol in 2013 and just gushed about his wife being wonderful and beautiful. It's always those men harmony. Yeah. his nine one one call seems a bit suspicious. I mean, the guy can sing, but he definitely cannot act. The crime scene it seemed staged to the point that a large refrigerator had been moved in front of the garage door. Like if you're gonna break
Harmony: Shady.
Sage: into a house, you're not gonna be moving a refrigerator. the police were immediately suspicious. note that Caleb was having an affair with this previous co-worship leader. Also, there was a very hefty life insurance policy with Caleb as the beneficiary. I think it's pretty clear what this guy was thinking with. And it was not his head. Not that one. That's right, yeah.
Harmony: Well, not the one he should have been thinking with. But I I swear on my life, there's so many times in these cases where these religious men are they'll have an affair, they'll commit adulteries just fine, but they can't get a divorce because that is a sin. But the thing to do is to kill your wife instead. Like make that make sense to me.
Sage: think we need to let these religious people know that divorce can be a blessing.
Harmony: Exactly. Let people go. If that relationship no longer serves you, let people go. You don't have to kill them. That's crazy.
Sage: It is crazy. while on the phone with nine one one, he said he had two daughters in the house and he was acting as if there was still somebody in the house attempting to kill. The operator asked if he was with the kids. He said he was not because they were asleep in their rooms. I found that extremely fishy.
Harmony: Exactly, because what parent worth their soul is not trying to be with their kids, especially if you suspect that somebody's in the house. You know?
Sage: Don't you know it? Like yeah. his trial starts september eighteenth. It will be televised and I'll keep everybody up to date on it.
Harmony: Absolutely. Thank you.
Sage: yes, you're welcome. Also, Eric James, age 53, was a principal at Brook High School in Walesburg, West Virginia. Then he got caught videoing girls changing clothes in the locker room. The janitor found a device that looked like a key fob and a device that looked like an ink pen. Upon further inspection he determined that they were actually cameras. Can you imagine how freaked out that janitor must have been?
Harmony: Even imagine how you find yourself in that situation, but I am also glad that he went and reported this to the proper authorities.
Sage: Well that was one of my points I wanted to make. He did not go up the proper chain of command. 'Cause that would have been the principle. Now I find that a little weird too. Did he did he think maybe it was the principle?
Harmony: Or if maybe he was like, You know what? It could be anybody, so I'm just gonna go straight to the police.
Sage: I mean good on him, 'cause if he had gone to the principal, nothing would have been done.
Harmony: Not at all, 'cause he was the creep doing it. Whew.
Sage: Well, the guy denies any guilt, but he's literally
Harmony: Course he does.
Sage: on the videos getting the angles just so so. can deny it all he wants. The proof is there on the videos. there's a class action civil suit brought about by several girls and their parents. unfortunately he has a wife and daughters. He is still in prison with a bond of a hundred and twenty-five thousand. And I wanna point out that his wife did not bail him out.
Harmony: she should and she should not. She should be getting a attorney so she can leave him.
Sage: That's right. So good for her. But this
Harmony: Yes.
Sage: story is getting so old. Middle-aged men preying on young girls.
Harmony: It's disgusting. I was reading something the other day that to catch a predator got cancelled because they kept finding politician and judges. How disgusting.
Sage: I also heard teachers too. I think maybe it's just bad publicity that so many teachers are we seriously in the society that's that bad?
Harmony: feel like we are in the hellmouth. for me, I feel like a lot of these people go into these jobs to be teachers, to be coaches, to be pastors, to have access to young kids to do this type of nasty things to them.
Sage: Okay, so here's my question. Are we just more aware of it now or has it gotten worse?
Harmony: could be a little of both. I think we are more aware because social media and we see it happening more often and I think people are more willing to actually speak up about it. I think before when things would happen to folks you kinda kept it in the dark, you didn't say anything about it. It was taboo. But no, put these predators on blast. We need to know.
Sage: I think you're right. There was shame for the victims back I know when I was growing up it was. So thank God that has changed.
Harmony: Yeah. Amen, because it is never the victim's fault.
Sage: Well, I've got a really bad story out of Ohio. That shouldn't surprise you, right? I know, I know. Send help, yeah.
Harmony: Ohio's crazy girl. Mm-hmm.
Sage: Daniel Miller, a Londonville Amish man, was arrested September eighth of this year for ten or more counts of crimes associated with dogs. They ranged from tormenting animals to having sex with animals. And by the way, he also ran a business that charged people for having sex with animals. So it wasn't just him having sex with the animals. I want those people found and arrested too. What the heck, Harmony?
Harmony: brain just had a stroke. He had a business to pay people to abuse animals. Well they paid him to either way. Disgust
Sage: Well they paid him. Yeah. Yeah.
Harmony: like bird in hell, sorry.
Sage: Yeah. So more than seventy dogs were rescued. They are now with the Humane Society and I want to say God bless the Humane Society, by the way.
Harmony: Amen. They do the Lord's work.
Sage: They do. So this man Miller is due in court October thirteenth. He's now out on bond. Now a couple things I watched the video of him getting arrested and I need to point because I do live in Amish country here, okay? But I live in like the old order Amish, which has its own issues, but these people are more new order, so they had like a really nice log cabin. Of course the dogs paid for that and they were like videoing everything on their really nice iPhones. So these things happen in the Amish community. And I know that might surprise a whole lot of people, but puppy meals are a problem in the Amish community. it's a big time and they sell to like pet stores. So a lot I can say about that. Also, bestiality is a problem and incest is a problem. This is what happens when you don't empower those who are young and innocent with education and a voice.
Harmony: Absolutely. That's too much. That's wow.
Sage: Yeah. So yeah, this is absolutely horrible, but not at all surprising to me, unfortunately.
Harmony: As a society I feel like we just get worse and worse.
Sage: I know, I know, but this is a really big story though, and I think they're going to make an example of him.
Harmony: they should and everybody who was working with him.
Sage: Which probably his family. But yeah, you're talking about those other perpetrators. Yeah, them too. Yeah. Let him start naming names.
Harmony: Period, throw all away.
Sage: So there's this woman named Julie Holloway Molina, age 56. She was the treasurer of the Aliso Naguel High School's Football Booster Club in Southern California. She stole over $400,000 from the booster club. First of all, how does a booster club have over $400,000?
Harmony: What are you guys using that money for? To rebuild the football field?
Sage: Hey. How are you raising that money? I need some tips over here.
Harmony: Friday night lights or something the the you know, that kind of thing.
Sage: don't you know it? Yeah. Well she used the four hundred thousand dollars to pay her credit cards, her mortgage, and her personal expenses. Harmony, as if she wouldn't get caught.
Harmony: swear to you, people are so dumb. People at my job will do things like this and it's like, we have records. We will find you.
Sage: It's about to get worse. she was arrested September eleventh, twenty twenty six. She was arraigned in federal court on charges of defrauding the club. She has pleaded not guilty and she's out on a ten thousand dollar bond, which I think is extremely low, by the way.
Harmony: It really is. She should still be in there.
Sage: And not guilty? Numbers don't lie.
Harmony: Exactly. People lie, numbers don't.
Sage: Then here it is, I discovered she's a CPA.
Harmony: Jesus on the main line. This is when I thought I heard it all.
Sage: So I know. I expect the officers will be going through all her client files as well. And she can serve up to 20 years in prison for each count. if she's found guilty of the school booster club alone, that's twenty years. And the woman is fifty-six.
Harmony: Yeah, she's not gonna make it out of there.
Sage: Yeah, that ha mortgage she was paying for, that doesn't even matter at this point.
Harmony: Exactly. That house is going in a foreclosure. Yeah, three
Sage: She's going to the big house.
Harmony: three hot cold meals in a cot is all she's gonna have.
Sage: That's right. Her lawyer is Alisa Viejo Mayor Max Duncan. Now, listen to what he had to say about his client's case. He said he felt deeply for all those volunteers who, quote, are now dealing with the consequences of alleged betrayal of that trust, end quote. Harmony lawyers will lawyer.
Harmony: They really will because honey, it's not alleged, but go off.
Sage: That's right. Yeah, my gosh. we shall see what happens with that.
Harmony: Yeah.
Sage: watching Wheel of Fortune with my great aunt when I was growing up was one of the highlights of my childhood. Did you watch it?
Harmony: I did, we would watch that in Jeopardy back in the day.
Sage: Yeah, 'cause it came r right after. And guess what? Golden Girls came on too. Yep. See that
Harmony: Golden Girls is my show. Mm-hmm.
Sage: was the beauty of not having a streaming service. We were all watching the same things.
Harmony: and that's when you could really have like water cooler talk and be like, did you see that episode last night? And it brought us together as a people. Now it don't happen.
Sage: It doesn't. Well Jim Thornton, the longtime announcer, has been fired while on a plane. Thornton was in the chat room for petos. He sent a few messages. Here's one of A couple of cute boys and a hot little girl. Here's another one. you can eat boy fee. I guess he thought he was funny. A passenger alerted the airline employees. The pilot had the police waiting for him up on landing. Ryan Seacrest is it going to take over for him. Now, can you imagine how amazing that pilot is to call that in and have the police waiting?
Harmony: shout out to the passenger who told and shout out
Sage: Yes.
Harmony: to the pilot who had the authorities on standby because you will not get away with this. You and all your nasty pedo friends can all go to jail.
Sage: So oddly enough, she also saw that he was responding to someone who said, You're on a plane and he's like, Yeah, man, no one's gonna see me though.
Harmony: dirty demon.
Sage: Well, I have a happy ending for you. That's right.
Harmony: Amen. We need it on this podcast.
Sage: It's not all bad news, right?
Harmony: Yeah, sometimes there's good updates.
Sage: That's right. Well, there's a 16-year-old girl from Springfield, Ohio, who was missing for 263 days. In December of 2025, she ran away from the Huckleberry House in Columbus, and that's a house for teens at risk. It was suspected that she was being kept in the house of her old science teacher, Job Binkley. Danielle Flint, a neighbor of Job Binkley, I wanted to give her a shout out because she's been vigilante about looking at that house. She said she didn't care if she was inside her house or outside. She was looking at that house all the time, looking for that girl. Because after two hundred and sixty three days, she's gonna make a sighting, right? this woman though, she was so invested in the girl, so shout out to her. But the police went to the teacher's house asking to search his house for that girl. And Binkley refused. Then the US Marshals kicked down his door on August 21st. They found the girl and she's been returned back to her mother's custody.
Harmony: I'm so glad that she is back with her family and I really hope that they are getting her into some type of therapy because my God is that traumatic to be kidnapped.
Sage: know, I know. he's been charged obviously with kidnapping. We don't really know what else he'll be charged with. It just kind of depends on the girl and what she claims has happened during those two hundred and sixty-three days.
Harmony: I'm praying for her. I can only imagine
Sage: Yeah.
Harmony: what she was put through. Mm. Sick.
Sage: I know. She's she's gonna need some therapy and let's hope she gets that. Yeah.
Harmony: Amen, I really do hope she gets it.
Sage: Well, I don't have anything else, do you?
Harmony: That's all the updates I had.
Sage: Okay, bye y'all.
Harmony: Thank you for joining us for another episode of Girls Will Yap. We love having you here to talk about true crime and missing persons. Follow us on all the socials at Girls Will Yap so you don't miss the conversations. As always, let's yap y'all.
