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In this powerful episode of Future People, Dan sits down with leadership adviser Byron Rienstra, who has spent more than 25 years working alongside CEOs, boards and founders across Asia and Australia. Together they dive into the uncomfortable, essential questions most leadership books avoid: the difference between management and leadership, why high IQ is often overrated, and why so many “successful” leaders quietly avoid the truth.
Byron shares brutal, career-defining lessons, including the global remuneration committee “disaster” that blew up in his face and changed the way he leads forever. He unpacks why promoting the smartest technician often fails, how ego and status make senior leaders less open to feedback over time, and why the real work of leadership is sense making, courage and creating followership, not being the hero with all the answers.
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About the Hosts
Host: Daniel Moussa - Founder, Thirdway Advisory
Dan Moussa is the founder of Thirdway Advisory and one of Australia’s most connected talent advisors across real estate development, critical infrastructure, and sustainability. He hosts Future People, where leaders share how they are redefining value, legacy, and the future of work.
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