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Welcome back, full programme golf podcast with me, Josh Conlan, and as always, Stevie Mack in the studio.
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This is episode 30.
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Who'd have thought we'd have got 30 podcasts out of us and plenty more to come?
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Today we're going to be previewing the masters.
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What a week of golf! As well as just clipping off a couple of those nice trips that we've been on and talking a bit of golf across the UK and Ireland.
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Let's get into it.
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Stevie Stevie, how are you doing?
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Joshua, my dear friend, how are you, good sir?
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The sun is out, it is shining on us.
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And uh you know what?
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I feel like we always start with the sun and the weather, but so we should.
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We're in England, we don't get it.
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I'm feeling good, the sun is out.
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How are you?
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Yeah, I'm good.
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Yes.
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Uh beautiful day today as we record this.
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And I think, you know, we we wanted to say spring had sprung the last couple of weeks, but I think officially spring has sprung.
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There's some uh greenery on the trees, it's a bit firmer underfoot, and it feels like golf season.
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The clocks have changed, that's always a big one.
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Competition season's underway.
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I'm on the golf course at 10 past seven tomorrow morning.
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It's a sign of things to come, it's a sign of the summer.
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I can't wait.
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Yeah.
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I was able to um clip off first comp of the year actually yesterday, and and you know, a post evening round, you know, post day, full day, evening round of golf.
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First one of the year, feels great.
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Um I will say, and I have to say, to bring it back to the resolutions that we made at the start of the um start of the year, it was the first club throw of the year.
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Uh we got to the eighth, we got to the 7th of April, and we uh yeah, I I actually went whole hog.
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I cobbed the four eye uh the sorry the 50 degree wedge um quite a good distance, took a bit of a branch out, and then this is sparted the bag, you know, when he like full on like boo right into the middle of the bag and just sent that one going.
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So I gave it I gave it some good beans to be honest.
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Um we've got out of the system, we start again, it's like you know, like Alcoholics Anonymous, how many days sober have you been?
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I'm back to this is day one.
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I am Josh, I am a club thrower, and um great to meet you all.
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This is day one of my journey once again.
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Oh well, no, okay, lots to unpack there.
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Let's let's settle into this one.
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So, first of all, disappointed.
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I'm disappointed myself, but I've got to bring it out.
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You got you got to April, but it was your first real well motherwell, real your first competition round of the year.
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So if you could argue the first really meaningful competition, uh round, sorry, and and the club's gone.
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So um, you know, restart, come back, better, stronger.
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I believe in you.
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A little bit.
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Um, what hole did the throw happen on?
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Just I just want to just experience the potential build-up pre-throw.
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Yeah.
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And you know what?
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It's a hole that I've got previous with.
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It's a hole where I've snapped my putter on, it was the sixth hole.
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Um I started, you know, I didn't start well.
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I um I didn't hit many good shots.
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Um, and I got to the sixth, and I'd still not really hit a shot, and I'd finally put it down the middle.
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Um and I had, you know, 138 yards in, hit a 50-degree wedge, expecting it to be uh fine.
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And I just as it came out, I was a bit of a piss missile, really, and just sent it straight over the green, pulled it a bit as well, and knew it was left and long.
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And so that was where the um the club toss went.
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And then didn't hit a very good chip.
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I actually was trying to get too cute, chubbed it a bit, pitched it on, hold the pup for my bogey, and that was when this is Sparta came out, and I just fully just middle of the boot, middle of the bag.
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So you could argue there were two separate occasions, but I thought, you know what, we're on that same hole.
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Um, after that, there were no more club tosses.
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I I realised the error of my ways.
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Um, the golf was heinous.
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I'm really excited to have my first lesson of the year, which is why the golf was heinous, because I've not been paying attention to the game.
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Our boy Sammy Truman, friend of the pod, been on the pod.
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I get to go and um just go to the guru tomorrow and I can't wait.
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I can't wait.
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I have let myself down, I've let the viewers down, I've let the listeners down, I've let you down, um, but back stronger.
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Um and we we will remember them.
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Uh we will we will be back, and I'm not gonna throw another club for the year.
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Can I can I ask?
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Well, what was it just kind of, you know, was it the were the the goals that we set just not forefront of the mind and the the the miss came and it happened, or as you were doing it, did you know you were breaking the promise that you made to the loyal FPG listeners?
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I knew I was breaking the promise.
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Yeah, uh the club could have gone every hole previous.
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So I I'd actually I'd argue that they were they're they were the reason it got to six.
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They're like that is that is what it was.
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It was it wasn't the first occasion, and and you know what?
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Over a longer period of time, I've been you know, a bit like Happy Gilmore, where you you start like you start the club throw and you stop yourself.
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Oh no, he's gonna stop.
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I've had a few of those.
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So it wasn't it's not come out of nowhere, but it will not happen again.
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That is my commitment here on the 8th of April.
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Well, good good luck to uh Jan Truman tomorrow.
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I think that's what we'll we'll uh we'll leave leave that on.
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Yeah, he's gonna need it.
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It was all appalling, appalling, yeah.
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Nice.
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Well, I'm I'm now three lessons into my little block, my little improvement block that I'm putting into place.
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And um it's looking good.
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I've put I've put a couple of swings on video, which I feel like are some of the best visually I've seen in this 14-year journey that I've been on.
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Haven't spent a huge amount of time out on the course, which does worry me slightly.
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So I can't remember exactly the the goal that I put with something about practice sessions.
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I've actually had quite a lot of practice sessions, but I'm probably not marrying enough course time with it.
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So out tomorrow morning, as I said, and um the hope is that miraculously we're just better all of a sudden, which it's never quite worked like that, but you can dare to dream, can't you?
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So uh yeah, Stone Market Golf Club, 7.10 tomorrow.
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Let's see what we can do.
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Love it, absolutely love it.
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Um that's a look.
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Thank you very much.
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All right, let's let's get into some golf.
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So last week, final tournament before the Masters, the Valero.
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A couple of things that immediately spring to my mind from it.
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JJ Spawn, absolutely no interest in him winning events, so good for him.
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Great eagle on 17, I think it was, and and and good that got the job done.
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But um, yeah, doesn't really do much for me.
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I thought McIntyre looked really good, fell away, didn't he?
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Um, was it was in good position, but as we'll move on to, do like him going into the Masters as a lefty.
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I know he doesn't fall into all these stats that we've been seeing, but um good to see Bobby Mack with a bit of form.
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Aberg again, up there, falls away on Sunday.
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So, all in all, it was one of those ones that I can't say I I watched a huge amount of it, and it was um, yeah, just the kind of almost like the bye week prior to the big one.
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Yeah, I think there's always a couple of good stories there in the Valero because there's people playing the hearts out for that last spot.
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Now, I was I was very surprised, and I believe I'm right in saying this, that they had they had to win.
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It wasn't just there is a spot available and the top finishing non-masters entrant gets in.
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That's not the terminology I was looking for, but you know, like I was looking at Matt Wallace, and I like Matt Wallace.
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I like that he also has heads off on the golf course.
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Um, and he played his heart out, and I actually thought he'd got the winning score when he got in at 16.
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I thought, you know what?
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Hats off, especially when Spawn bogeared 15.
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Um I thought, brilliant, he's gonna be in the Masters.
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And then obviously he didn't go on to win it, Spawn went on to win it.
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And I was they didn't cover in enough detail that that means he's now not in the Masters.
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Because I was like, does he is he still in?
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Like he's still the top finishing non-masters player.
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Um but no, interesting he didn't.
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I think I agree with you in many ways, JJ Spawn's not the the most riveting winner.
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But wow, he likes to hit just drive a green and make Eagle when it matters, doesn't he?
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He did it on in the US Open at 16, didn't he?
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Without I think he made Birdie in the end there, but hit an unbelievable t-shirt.
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And then to go Birdie Eagle 16-17 to take it by one, he's pretty good nads.
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And I I've got you know, you've just got to go.
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He's seized his bollocks and he's just done it.
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So fair play.
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Uh fair play.
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So I like that.
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I like that.
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You mentioned Bobby Mack.
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I I don't know, I think his dress sense just kills me.
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Just kills me.
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I can't get behind him when he just wears the worst night kit you could possibly find in the catalogue.
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So, like, okay, yeah, whatever.
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Doesn't particularly float on a boat.
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Auberg.
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He just he's just gonna become a serial second placer, the way I'm seeing it.
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And it's a big early shout.
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Is he gonna go in the Shane Lowry camp, earn lots of money, have a great living?
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Always gonna be light, perennial underachiever, albeit I'm sure he'd happily be in the Shane Lowry camp and take an open.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Well, yeah, I wonder if you asked um Ludvig right now, you were like, you get to win the open, successful Ryder Cup player, a couple other wins here and there, and that's your career.
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Do you reckon he'd sign off on it?
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I mean, you've got to, haven't you?
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He probably wouldn't because that's how he's got to that level.
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I mean, all of them have got to have elite mentality to be as good as they are.
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But you've got to.
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It's a seriously good career, you know.
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It's a it's a really, really good career.
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It's he's an open he's a major champion.
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I think you take the major out of it.
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No, you don't take it at all.
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But he's a major winner.
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Throwing all the hole-in-wands he's got at all these different places, you can have those as well.
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Winning, winning take.
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I don't I don't think he would, but I think he should, because I think in the end he'll win less.
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Yeah, no, I agree with you.
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I actually listened to him on the four-play pod, uh, and he actually came across like a really, really nice bloke, Ludvig.
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I was just like, he really like elevated himself in in my in my world, and so I really am pulling for him a little bit more now.
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Uh, really enjoyed the story of his mate from Sweden came over to America.
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Uh, good golf would grew up playing together, and Ludvig and told him that they were going to play Augusta on the Wednesday, and on the Tuesday, his mate was like, Oh, like we got a free day tomorrow.
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Like, do you think we could maybe get a game of golfing somewhere?
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And he just turned to him and was just like, Yeah, it's actually already booked playing Augusta National.
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Could you imagine?
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That is sensational.
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That would be unbelievable.
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Yeah, Bobby Mack.
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Um, Bobby Mack is the least Nike Nike athlete I think I know of.
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Yeah, and he's always been Nike, isn't he?
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I just I don't really I don't really see that marriage at all.
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He looks like I'm trying to think, he he's the kind of person who'd be sponsored by Pringle.
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You know what I mean?
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Just like pretty, yeah, just like average old school golf brand.
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I feel like that would be more the making.
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Um, but as I said, and I think we can segue uh quite quickly into I know listeners will probably be listening to this either during or postmasters, but it's it's the Wednesday here for us, so we're gonna have a little dabble before it all kicks off.
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I've kind of been ignoring the the left-handed success, Augusta, and not really paying attention.
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You know, we've thrown loads of names out, we've had lots of stats being fed our way in the last couple of weeks.
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But when you think of the lefties in the field, I think it would be silly to ignore them as a collective completely.
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Keen for your thoughts.
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And the history suggests that they're gonna be right in the mixer, aren't they?
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Um, you know, Mickelson, Weir, Bubba all don't Bobby Mack not won it, but he's finished top 10, certainly top 15, because I know he finished high enough to get an invite back a few years ago when he was not quite as high as he obviously is now.
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Um how do I think they'll get on?
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Off the top of my head, Bobby's the highest ranked left-hander.
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There's no Philly Mick in the field.
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16 to 1, Bobby Mack is.
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I think that is if any if anyone is taking him at 16 to 1, give your head a wobble.
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Like you're a joke of a better.
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Like it's an appalling better 16 to 1.
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You know, you've got Tommy Fleetwood 16 to 1.
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He's a different calibre of golfer.
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And even that at 16 is probably not that much.
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And it depends on what your sons are, right?
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I mean, if you're spending big money, then crack on.
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But the mill gambler.
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Have you got the odds in front of you then?
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I do, yeah.
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What what's just just just fire off some you know, top couple, then maybe just a couple of a couple of interesting names of note.
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I'd love to.
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Um, so as expected, favourite is Scotty Sheffler, nine to two.
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Then you move to John Raum at eight to one, and then McElroy and DeChambeau at nines.
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So then you sort of we'll we'll do the top.
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I know that's four players, but we'll do the top six, because then they're different levels.
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You've got Xander Shoffley at ten, and then Ludwig at eleven, which I think again is crazy, crazy short for a guy who is a cash machine, but and you know what?
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Each way, yeah, maybe.
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Okay.
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Cam Jung at 16 is better value than Bobby Mack in my book.
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Justin Rose is in at 16 now.
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I mean, I I actually I've got some money on JR, obviously.
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Obviously.
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I've got some money on JR.
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I've got JR at um what have I got him out?
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What have I got my boy at?
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There with me.
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As I find him, I've got him at 22.
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I'm feeling good about that.
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Feeling good about my boy at 22.
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We've got about the boy.
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Um, some exciting names.
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I've actually I've actually got a few bets on myself.
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So let me tell you where I've gone.
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I've used a bit of the stats that we had, and then just a bit of a feeling in the gut.
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Yeah, that's a feel in the gut.
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You know, it could have been something I ate dodgy last night, but I felt it in the gut, and I just wanted a few of them.
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So um you better you better I've got a few.
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Like I've I've I've really dabbled across the pen.
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So many will say Matt Fitzpatrick at 14 to 1 is too short.
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I would agree with them.
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Have I got money on him?
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Yes, I have, because I'm enjoying it.
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And I like the narrative that that brings.
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JR at 22.
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I got Colin Morikau at 22.
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He's just he's he's statistically the best iron player in the world right now.
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I got Patty Reid at 25.
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I like Patty Reid.
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It's just I don't know how fit is Morikau, that's the question.
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Yeah, and that's why you can't put him in the in your in your four for the for the sweep state we've got, which we'll get on to as well.
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I said it on the last pod.
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I've got Nikolai Huygard at 40 to 1.
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He will finish inside the top 15.
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I said it on the last one.
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I'm doubling down, he will do it.
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I've got my boy Sepp, just vibes in a way, just proper vibes in a way, 45 to 1.
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He's got a terrible record at the Masters, though.
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Ah, has he?
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Because stats-wise, he's up there, isn't he?
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He kind of ticks a lot of the boxes.
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He's right in it.
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And then I've got three more, and you could argue I've got half the field at this point, but I've not got a lot on, and I'm just enjoying it.
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I've got Alex Norrin at 100.
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Wow, like that.
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I've got Sergio Garcia at 125.
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Like, I'm not being funny, he's won there each way.
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Just worth a dabble.
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And then I've got Corey Connors, 45s.
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Corey Connors doesn't know how to finish outside the top 20 at the Masters.
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He just doesn't.
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He's gonna be thereabouts.
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There you go.
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Pick out of that one of 65 playlists that have could win.
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Like it.
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Well, I was gonna ask you for your three top picks, not necessarily the the ones that your heart's crying for, but the ones that your head's asking for.
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Um and so there were some heart and head ones within there.
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Maybe if you just strip back and go, look, you know, take the person out of it, take the where they're from out of it, like what who who are your three top picks?
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It I I I like value because I'm not putting enough on to go for I'm gonna answer that with how I picked the I'm gonna go four if I may.
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I'm gonna answer that with how I picked the sweepstakes.
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So we have a sweepstak, uh, one of our our dear friends, Kurt, puts it on, and it's you've got to pick a golfer data golf, top one to ten rank data golf, 11 to 20, 21 to 40, and 41 plus.
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So there's quite a nice variation, and with it being data golf, you get the live the live guys on there as well.
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So I went in the in the top one to ten category, and the reason I'm using this as the example is because I think it gives a couple of it'll give a couple of runners and riders and then a couple of maybe maybe outsiders.
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Um so I've gone John Rom in that first camp, that first category.
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I think he's just been playing great.
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I I think he's right up there.
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I've gone um Bryson in the second camp because again, I feel like that's almost a joker.
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He should be in the top 10.
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If he's not, it's a bit of a it's a bit of a bonus to be able to nibble him alongside Rom.
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But I did fancy Mara Coward, but again, to your point, how fit is he?
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Who knows?
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In the third camp, I was going Rosie, but I do think he's good.
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I think it I I do think now at 14s, I think that's a little bit short.
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I think at 22 is it's a decent value, but unfortunately that he'd already been taken, so I've gone with Set, which I don't hate, at 45.
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I think I said I got him at.
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And then in the fourth slot, 41 plus, um Patty Reed, loves Augusta, knows Augusta, and actually he's pretty short at 25, but I think it's a pretty good value.
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And not out of the four, but I've called him out, and I'm gonna say it again: good value at 40 to 1, Nikolai Huygard.
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Nikolai Huygard.
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Love it.
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That's right.
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The the onus is on me to get this pot out early enough so people can get these these gems that you're what you're you're spitting on the on the mic.
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Yeah, I think I agree with you completely.
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I think Rahm is the favourite.
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I think he is playing the best golf right now of the big boys in the world, and so he is my pit if I had one.
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I love Patrick Reed.
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He was on fire at the beginning of this, you know, only a couple of weeks ago, really.
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When you look back uh on the DP World Tour, one at Augusta, mad for the moment.
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I think he's a dark horse, and then I'm going to give you one other name that hasn't been mentioned.
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Um, I was listening to Kevin Kisner speak about his picks, and he says, Jordan Spith is playing really, really good golf at the moment.
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He's just not holding any parts.
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However, he knows the Greens and Augusta.
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He can get round that golf course, and so don't be surprised if the jacket is being slipped on Speith kind of out of nowhere on Sunday.
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But he's 28 to 1 short.
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I just thought I'd bring up the odds as well and see where that was.
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But yeah, hey, he'd be he'd be a pretty popular winner, wouldn't he, amongst quite a few people?
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Yeah, um outside of the actual go.
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I'm I'm not sure there's you know, with McElroy and the Grand Slam done now, we've got no tiger playing, you know, is he gonna make the cut and all that?
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What's what's the narrative of the 2026 Masters, other than the fact it's it is the Masters?
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I I'm not really sure there is a massive one, and I'll be honest with you, I think the biggest narrative going into this week is this is Frankie Fleawood hitting the green tonight?
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That that is the question that is on the on the top of my top of my brain and on on the tongue, end of my tongue.
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Is he gonna do it?
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Uh I'm I'm sorry to say, I I couldn't care less.
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Uh yeah, it just doesn't do anything for me, that sort of stuff.
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Um great if he does, if he doesn't, what a shame.
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Do you watch the partering?
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It'll be on in the background.
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Some years I do, some years I don't.
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When it got rained off, I think it was a couple of years ago.
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Before that, I watched them all.
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And we got rained off, Champions League football tonight.
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I'll probably put the Champions League on.
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It's just the way it's dropping this year.
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Um I'll probably I'll probably I'll probably catch it, have a look.
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You'll have a dabble.
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I'll have a dabble here and there.
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Yeah.
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I'm uh yeah, it is it's it is what it is at this point, isn't it?
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Like I don't really get it.
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Like no one wants to win it, and it's just it's the old boys just trying to clip it to try and show you they've got it still, but they inevitably haven't, and someone who finishes in the bottom third of the tournament wins it every year.
00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:33.440
Final thought for it, which I thought was really interesting, and I just couldn't believe this is the case.
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So um, Champions Dinner was last night.
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I read that the past winners have the option to order off the like standard menu alongside the menu set by the champion.
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And I just thought that is absolutely bizarre.
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Could you imagine?
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I I would feel so rude if whoever champion throws on a menu and you're just like, you know what?
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I'm okay, and I'm just gonna order the cheeseburger.
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Burger off the menu.
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Like, I just I couldn't believe that that was an option.
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It really made me laugh.
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That is wild.
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But you know, if Bubba Watson's serving up that absolute was fest that he tried to put in place, you know, almost out of a lack of thought that's gone into it, I'd be like, you know what, mate, I'm gonna order the burger off the menu, not have your burger or whatever the difference was.
00:22:19.759 --> 00:22:21.359
Like, you can do one.
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Um he he served the same menu both times as well, which is just crazy.
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Caesar salad, grilled chicken, and I think it was like confetti cake or something.
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Confetti cake, yeah.
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Whatever that is, and I was just like what I learned, what I learned today, yeah, this morning, was that the past champion picks up the bill.
00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:46.400
So yeah, I didn't know that.
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I always wondered uh who who picks the bill up, how is it?
00:22:49.839 --> 00:22:52.880
So clearly Bubba just wanted a cheap bill to pick up.
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So he's at tight.
00:22:54.319 --> 00:22:57.839
So uh whereas Macaroy's gone pretty whole hog, hasn't he?
00:22:57.920 --> 00:23:00.079
I still think the best menu was Matsyama's.
00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:01.599
Well, it's unbelievable.
00:23:01.839 --> 00:23:02.880
Matsyama's good.
00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:05.039
I think the Texan menus are always pretty good.
00:23:05.119 --> 00:23:08.640
Um Rom Garcia's were good.
00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:13.359
Um, yeah, that's definitely I I just thought Macaroy's was pretty solid this year, uh to be honest.
00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:16.160
But yeah, his will probably be the most expensive.
00:23:16.240 --> 00:23:20.079
I think Matsyama's was the most expensive to date.
00:23:20.319 --> 00:23:22.559
Yeah, but imagine we've got McElroy.
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Yeah, I think with the wine, McElroy will probably nudge that.
00:23:25.759 --> 00:23:29.599
But uh yeah, Mike Weir said he could have spent over 20 grand on his in back in 04.
00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:32.559
So like I think they're I I do think this though.
00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:40.720
Like, if you're in the field with a chance, like Ram, for example, like how talled up are you getting on a Tuesday night before the Masters?
00:23:40.799 --> 00:23:45.279
Like, that is quite close to uh to game time, isn't it?
00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:49.119
Yeah, I think you're having a couple of glasses, aren't you?
00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:50.880
And you're just leaving it like that.
00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:58.000
Um, there's no Miguel Him and Miguel Angel in there just pop quaffing his Rioca and uh cigars on the side.
00:23:58.160 --> 00:24:05.200
No, obviously, DJ, did you see the video that came out from DJ um today, I believe, again it was um interview.
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He's tweaked his back.
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And they're like, Oh, how have you done it?
00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:10.079
Was it swinging on the range?
00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:11.599
And he was like, No.
00:24:12.079 --> 00:24:16.799
They were like, Oh, oh, was it was it um, you know, picking up the kids?
00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:19.359
And he was like, Yeah, we can call it that if you want.
00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:28.400
Yeah, we'll call it picking up the kids, and made it so obvious that him and Paulina have just been going at it and he's done his back.
00:24:28.559 --> 00:24:29.519
What a great guy.
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Just enjoy it.
00:24:31.119 --> 00:24:33.839
Hey, I'm you know, love love that for him.
00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:40.079
What I don't love for him was the black tie on black shirt look underneath the green jacket.
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Like, I'm sorry.
00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:43.599
I'm actually sorry.
00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:50.640
That is there were some bad shirt tie combinations out there, but like that was by far the worst.
00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:54.640
That was that was criminal and actually should have lost his spot in the Masters for it.
00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:58.160
Uh, the other one that I thought was criminal, and actually he's been mentioned on the pod.
00:24:58.319 --> 00:25:02.000
And if Spith is in with a chance of winning, he should just be DQ'd.
00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:05.279
The purple on purple was also just not open.
00:25:05.599 --> 00:25:07.039
Yeah, yeah, no.
00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:09.440
Anyway, what a week it is.
00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:10.559
Masters week.
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We're here kicking off tomorrow, uh, and I can't wait.
00:25:14.079 --> 00:25:15.200
And hopefully it's a good one.
00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:19.839
Like if it can be even close to the drama of of last year, that'll be unbelievable.
00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:22.799
And obviously, we're crossing fingers, Justin Rowe's winner.
00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:28.160
And if it can't be Justin, Fleetwood will be fine, but um, either or I think.
00:25:28.960 --> 00:25:31.200
Right, we've got some golf to chop up.
00:25:31.359 --> 00:25:39.039
You are just back from the Emerald Isle, and we I want to hear all about it.
00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:49.599
Yes, and um gotta start by saying, as you know, a lot of listeners will know, the golf is just sensational.
00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:51.039
It really, really is.
00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:57.200
The the hospitality that accompanies the golf um is is also phenomenal.
00:25:57.359 --> 00:26:02.160
The Irish, the Irish hospitality, um as good as ever, really fantastic.
00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:06.960
Um, so yeah, I was staying with uh with obviously my girlfriend whose family are in Westport.
00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:11.519
Great, um, great town, very good fun.
00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:16.799
Actually, one of those towns that quite a few stags go to and Hendus and go to because it's really fun.
00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:24.880
There's lots of pubs, lots of, you know, right on the west coast, County Mayo, um, right in the middle of nowhere, really.
00:26:25.039 --> 00:26:29.599
Um flying to Nock Airport, flying to Nock, it's about 45 minutes from there.
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Uh Island West Nock.
00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:40.799
Um, and that is, yeah, you're probably saying you're about two and a half hours to Shannon, which has the US flights into it.
00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:43.680
So you're north of Shannon, you're north of Galway.
00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:55.119
So you're sort of in between where we've coined the the Wild Atlantic Way south and the Wild Atlantic Way North when we think about where we've we've got those loop inspirations on the on the FPG page.
00:26:55.279 --> 00:27:01.359
Um so being in the middle of there, I thought, you know what, I've got to go and try a little bit of both.
00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:07.119
So yeah, managed to clip clip off three different courses.
00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:17.599
Um Carn, Eniscrone, and then um Trump International Island, formerly known as Doombeg, in that order as well.
00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:24.480
So uh I want to start again by saying what just sensational, like really, really good.
00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:43.599
You've obviously got Doombeg is down in the in the southwest, much closer to your trillies, your ballied bunions, right in the mixer with it's not far from a dare, you know, you're right in that camp of tribe-tested known venues that people are travelling for.
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:49.599
Carn and Ennisgrown are right out on a limb, they're on their own.
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:57.279
Um, they as I mentioned, it was it's about it's it's probably a good two and a half, three hours from a dune beg by car.
00:27:57.440 --> 00:28:03.039
Of course, they've all got helicop heli helipads, lots of ability to helicopter around.
00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:04.559
We can sort that.
00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:05.519
Um, what to do?
00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:06.799
Not there yet, are you?
00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:08.480
No, not there yet.
00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:09.680
So I didn't need to be.
00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:10.640
Yeah, I didn't need to be.
00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:13.279
I was based in the middle, so I was popping either side.
00:28:13.440 --> 00:28:42.480
Um right out on a limb, and what that gives it is the that feel of the it's almost that unpolished diamonds, you know, that you get better value, they're it's not as expensive because they're still it's almost like what I would anticipate the Trilise, the Bally Bunions to have been 10-15 years ago, in that there's phenomenal value, but the golf is still just sensational.
00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:46.319
They've just got to entice you in because they're so remote.
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But part of that remoteness is why they are so good.
00:28:50.880 --> 00:29:03.279
If I start at Carn, if I may, and I'm gonna talk in order um with that, and this is a bit of a monologue, but I just want to go on because I can't explain how good that golf course is and how good the golf in general of the three I played was.
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:05.759
You know, I'm just starting looking at my notes of carn.
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:11.200
It's the ninth ranked golf course in Ireland, Republic of Ireland.
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:23.920
Um it has the largest dunes in Europe, and right from the get-go, it's it's three nine holes, so really interesting.
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:27.440
And Fiona was phenomenal there, um, the general manager there.
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:28.079
She was fantastic.
00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:31.599
I want to give her a shout out because the the hospitality there was sensational.
00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:45.200
Told me all about the backstory of uh of Khan, how the Wild Atlantic Dunes course was created, and and they they previously had the um the famous course architects Hackett, something hack it.
00:29:45.359 --> 00:30:02.559
They've got the Hackett course, that's ended up being nine, and they've now got this Wild Atlantic Dunes 18, which every hole you are just rapping through these different dunes, you can't really see other holes, and you've just got these steep banks on the side, you've got views of the sea.
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:15.039
It was and and it got crazy windy, crazy windy, but got a blue sky day, beautiful condition, other than the wind, which you can live with on a Lynx course, right?
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:17.440
I can't recommend it higher.
00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:18.640
I messaged you, didn't I?
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:23.519
I think I was about three holds in, and I was like, holy shit, I think I might have a new top five golf course.
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:24.960
Uh that's how good it was.
00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:27.359
It was it was so good.
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:38.720
So I've not been over to the West Coast, so it's my understanding is yeah, the dunes are much bigger, it feels kind of wilder than it does in Scotland.
00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:39.759
100%.
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:40.720
Yeah.
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:50.240
I would say it's you know, you've got the English links courses that are the flattest, I would say.
00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:54.240
You've then got the courses that I've played, and I haven't been up to Aberdeen, you know.
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:55.839
I've played Dornet further up.
00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:01.839
I haven't been to Aberdeen where it looks like there's some real pretty big dunes and good mount, good good area with there.
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:18.160
But my experience of golf in Ireland, having been on Tralee, having been on Bally Bunyan, and now being on Carl Mennis, going Doom Beg, is that yeah, the dunes are just bigger, the landscape is just more spectacular.
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:21.519
And as a result, the vistas are sensational.
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:31.599
We've said it before, big vista guys, the golf courses are brilliant, the hospitality is fantastic, as I've mentioned, but these courses in particular were a little bit wilder.
00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:33.519
I would say Doom Beg, not so much.
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:41.519
It's a Trump course, it's manicured to perfection, even at the end of March, early April.
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:43.519
Um, they're hosting the Irish Open.
00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:51.680
I'll I'll get onto that uh there, but you can tell that that's a course that's styled slightly differently than the Khan and the Ennis Groans of the world.
00:31:51.759 --> 00:32:05.759
But yeah, a little bit wilder, a little bit more um severe in their drops and slopes and dunes and just an all-round phenomenal experience.
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:07.599
Love it.
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:11.200
Um so Khan, how how far away was the drive for to get to Khan?
00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:17.839
Like, you know, and maybe if you're you're in a a central location coming on a trip, like where how far are you actually having to go to get to Khan?
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:22.400
So from from Nok, I'd imagine it's about an hour and a half.
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:43.119
Um what I having chatted with with the owner there, a lot of um lot the lot of the people that that are going to Carn, and you know, what we're seeing is really it's a you'd play Khan, you'd play Enniscrone, and then you'd probably head north up towards your Narin and Port News, your Rosa Pennas, your Bali Lithings, and you and you'd you'd move it there.
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:55.279
But you're talking a still still a good to carn uh to Enniskrone, sorry, you're probably talking for an hour, call it an hour, but then you're looking at a good two and a half, three hours to then get yourself up to Rosa Penna.
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:57.839
So it's a it's a really good drive.
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:04.079
Um, and and that's why they have it has to be sensational because it is out in the middle of nowhere.
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:08.880
Um as I say, I I can't recommend enough that that the drive is worth it.
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:16.480
Get in the coach, get the heli if you if you're lucky enough to be on the heli uh and just put yourself there because it's so worth it.
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:17.119
Love it.
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:21.119
Alright, so hit us with a bit of a course and a three P's rating.
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:34.400
So I think if I played the course in the summer and it had been in slightly better, like summer conditions, it was still on the edge of winter, they had to have the greens a little bit longer just because of the s the wind.
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:36.880
I mean they they called off the medal on day.
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:40.960
Like it was if they call off a medal there, you know it's humming wind.
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:49.759
Um so I'm gonna give the course a four and a half, but I think it's a 4.7, like just in the four and a half, but like right up there.
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:50.400
I loved it.
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:51.839
I thought it was sensational.
00:33:52.400 --> 00:34:01.519
Um they the Pro Shop, the Pro Shop's cool, it's right under the dunes and it's kind of cut into the hill, so it kind of looks weird.
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:03.759
It's really cool, it's nice in there.
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:08.159
Um great kit, great merch.
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:12.480
I don't love the logo, but I think the logo is it's good.
00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:17.119
We'll get on logos when I get to Ennischrom because wow, that might be the worst logo in golf.
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:21.199
Um, but I like I it's okay.
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:32.079
So the the Pro Shop is is decent enough, and then they've got full grass range, they've got a short game area, they've got an extra nine holes that you can go and play as well, even if you just wanted to warm up.
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:35.679
So I have to say that the four P's are probably a solid four again.
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:40.239
So you're talking a really highly ranked place, hospitality is sensational.
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:52.239
The patio, they've got both indoor and outdoor benches that overlook the um the 18th, the 13th, and the first, and indeed the first of the other nine.
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:59.039
So you can just see the loads, and you can then have dunes, and then it's like fairway cut between the dunes, dunes again.
00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:02.639
It's it's a really impressive setup, it really is nice.
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:06.800
Um, the bar stays open as long as there's people in it.
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:11.519
Like just great things like that, you know, just what you expect when you go into Ireland.
00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:15.119
You want to sit there and drink Guinness, you can sit there and drink Guinness.
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:17.599
You want to go outside and play some more golf?
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:19.519
Crack on, go and enjoy your golf.
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:24.000
You want to go to the local, local bar restaurant, they've got it all set up.
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:25.840
It's just a great place.
00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:26.800
Um I loved it.
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:28.239
I thought it was brilliant.
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:29.599
Amazing.
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:30.559
That made me smile.
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:33.360
We we've got a group out of South Africa at the moment, and they're stuck.
00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:44.639
They were staying in a relatively small kind of boutique hotel in George, and uh they ended up paying a fortune to the hotel, being like, here's some money, keep the bar open until we go to bed.
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:47.519
None of that in Ireland, it just happens.
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:50.400
Yeah, they're happy to just keep taking the money.
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:51.599
Amazing.
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:52.559
All right, as well.
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:54.960
So I mean, Khan's now firmly on my list.
00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:59.119
Like, you've definitely sold me the dream, you sent me some pictures and definitely rolled me up about that.
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:02.559
So that was your opening gambit, really strong start by the sounds of it.
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:05.360
So let's roll into to your second course.
00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:09.679
Yeah, so then I moved to Enniscrone and again want to give Keith a shout-out.
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:12.480
Great bloke, um, really welcoming again.
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:16.719
Um, the whole team there were lovely, and you get a nice little goody bag.
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:32.079
You know, that was that was one you know, you know, when you go to you know we went to the Ailes and we got the nice goodie bag of the course planner and a little memento, and got that in Enniscrone, which was lovely, and you got a little bag tag that's like where it is in Ireland, like really nice, really good.
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:39.199
Um, I've got to start on the logo because I've got to start with the bad stuff, and then I just want to rave about it again because it's sensational.
00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:40.960
But the logo is the worst logo in golf.
00:36:41.119 --> 00:36:44.320
I said might be, it just is, it's horrific.
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:49.840
Um, it is a rainbow over a piece of land.
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:51.920
It's go and look at it.
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:55.519
Please go and look at it, check it out, I'm sure it will be on the front of the video.
00:36:55.760 --> 00:37:03.599
It's it's heinous, it's heinous, and everyone will look at it, and I have absolutely Oh no, I'm not being that.
00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:04.480
Yeah, have a look.
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:05.519
It's it's appalling.
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:13.039
I don't mind here and there, but for me, it's great, it's it looks like a rainbow flag, like an LGBTQ plus sort of thing.
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:17.760
Absolutely fine as a as what you're doing, as a as a movement.
00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:21.119
Doesn't need to be a golf club logo, it's just quite an odd thing to have.
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:21.519
I think so.
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:23.360
I think it's appalling as a logo.
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:27.599
You know, you think about minimalist designs that you want, and it's giving clip art.
00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:29.039
It really is.
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:38.639
It's appalling, and actually, as a result, they had some nice kit in the shop that is just ruined by this clip art on your left chest.
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:40.719
You just like, I can't go near that stuff.
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:43.039
So they gave you a nice bag, but it's got the logo on it.
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:45.440
And I'm like, well, I don't really want the bag, thanks.
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:46.320
It's not nice.
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:48.559
Anyway, enough about that.
00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:50.159
Moving on to the course.
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:55.760
Sorry, I just because you know we we just posted out about logos the other day on Instagram.
00:37:56.079 --> 00:38:01.920
I was trying to think about it, and I think America is way further ahead of the UK in terms of having good logos.
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:14.079
Now, is part of that because a lot of the clubs are newer, and so they come at it with a slightly more refreshing point of view, and they get a designer in and they get it done and they do it properly, and they understand the value of having a good logo.
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:22.159
Maybe some of these golf clubs have just been sat on these logos for 150 years, and so they don't want to update them because it's part of the history.
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:33.440
And so if that is the case, I suppose I'm not gonna let them off, but I at least can understand for certain point of view, like what hand they've been dealt here.
00:38:33.519 --> 00:38:36.000
So it'd be interesting to hit know what the backstory is.
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:42.239
I'm just you know, yeah, like if it is a rubbish logo, but like is it has it always been this rubbish logo?
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:47.199
And so would be changing it just for commercial gain, be actually not really in the spirit.
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:53.119
So I actually because of how bad it was, I had to say to Keith, I was like, what is with your logo?
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:56.239
Like, thanks for having me, but what on earth are you doing?
00:38:56.320 --> 00:38:57.599
Like, it's that bad.
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:05.599
And to be fair to him, he just went, Yeah, um trying to change that for a while, it's just been here forever, can't get by it.
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:08.079
So he knows, he knows, bless him.
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:11.360
That's quite funny, yeah.
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:15.119
Even the GM knows it's not the best.
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:25.119
But when we then get to the golf course and we start talking about what is like worth going to, oh wow, what a golf course.
00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:38.800
I mean, you know, I mentioned Carney's number nine in Ireland, Ennis Crone is number 13 in Ireland, so we're talking two courses that yes might be a little bit off the beaten track on their own, so worth going and taking the time and going to play them.
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:45.519
You know, the the quote that Shane Lowry said, and it's it's on their course power is the best course in Ireland off the beaten track.
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:52.159
And I don't whilst I don't quite agree with him because I do think Khan just just tips it, and that's my personal opinion.
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:56.800
I thought that the golf course at ESCRA was sensational.
00:39:56.880 --> 00:40:27.119
I mean, you start off with this this dog leg right part four with the outer bounds on the left, which is then the range that people don't love in terms of out of bounds, but on the right, and and then it goes sort of dog leg right into a dune that then has an amphitheatre for this path four, and then you go into the second, and you've got part five, sort of snake goes left, goes right, kind of bottlenecks in, so you kind of have to lay to a chute and go up through then third path through, and they're all through these dunes.
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:31.920
So you just start, you just start on this like outrageous set of holes.
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:35.280
You just go, oh my god, this is gonna be a joke.
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:49.039
Now, the reason I don't quite think it's as good as Khan is that Khan had these really um beautiful holes through the dunes throughout throughout the 18 on the main 18.
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:52.880
The other nine slightly less so, but that's not what we're ranking, you know, that's just an added nine.
00:40:53.039 --> 00:41:03.840
And don't get me wrong, Enniscrone also has another uh nine holes that you can play just on the side, and so all of these places you could spend a full day at and really enjoy it if you were going off to be attractive to go there.
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:05.599
It's a full day experience.
00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:15.679
But Enniscrone between the 5th and the 11th goes away from the dunes.
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:26.079
And whilst they're okay holes, there's a there's a couple like five is okay, six is okay, but then you're kind of like seven and eight, you could be anywhere, they're a bit poor.
00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:37.679
Nine and ten, you've got then the sort of the um this the river comes in and you've got a bit of water on your left, and you're kind of on a bay, and it's it's okay, like it's cool enough.
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:45.280
But so you've got six holes really there that aren't as good.
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:49.920
You know, you you've got a third of the golf course is not as good as two-thirds.
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:52.079
So you've got one to four and electric.
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:57.599
Giving like wallacy vibes almost, where you've got exactly yeah, very similar to that.
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:01.440
You've got albeit there's more in the dunes at Enniscrone, and the dunes are bigger.
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:02.719
But yes, exactly that.
00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:06.320
You've got the the drop-off in the holes at Enniscrome was more than Khan.
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:12.079
Like the bad hole at Khan was still like a good hole, whereas the bad hole at Enniscrome was just average.
00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:15.519
But then from 11 in, it's just electric again.
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:17.199
It's just outrageously good.
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:20.960
So you've got you've got 12 holes that just go, wow, this is outrageous.
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:22.320
This is such a good test.
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:35.679
Great combination of tough par five, easy par fives, long par threes, big drop-offs, short par threes, drivable par 4s, tough parts like it's got everything, and they're all cut in between the dunes.
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:39.679
You've got dog leg left, dog leg rights, a couple of straight work, like everything is tested.
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:43.280
It's brilliant, it really is brilliant for for the most part.
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:48.480
I could only say I can only say it's worse than Khan because it's got a few weaker holes.
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:49.280
Nice.
00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:52.480
Alright, well, that's how does it check out on the numbers?
00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:56.239
I'm gonna give it a four and a half, so I know it's gonna come out the same as Khan.
00:42:56.559 --> 00:43:01.119
Look at the end of the day, it's 13th and Ireland, it's still brilliant, and it and it really does warrant a visit.
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:04.559
Where Khan's a 4-7, this is maybe a 4-6, a 4-5-5.
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:10.400
You know, it's it's a ru it's still above the 4-5, but we're talking we're talking halves, don't we?
00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:12.000
So that's where it's at.
00:43:12.239 --> 00:43:16.400
Um in terms of the club, the three P's.
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:19.840
Three P's, I'm gonna give a three.
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:28.079
I've full practice facilities, great practice facilities, um, nice grass range, really good short game area, patio's decent.
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:31.760
But I've actually knocked marks off for the logo, so it's getting a three.
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:40.960
It could have even got two just because of the logo, um, which means that there is it's actually losing points for its Pro Shop, and which is no reflection on the kit in there.
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:45.039
That might be the first time we've ever had that.
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:46.639
Minus points.
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:47.760
Do you know what?
00:43:48.000 --> 00:44:01.039
I mean, there's a world, and we'll we'll we'll take this off pod, but I there there might be a world where we have to start allowing some more decibel point variations because I feel like we spent our whole time being like, it's a four or five, but actually it's a Four seven.
00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:02.320
And do you know what?
00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:06.320
It's our scoring system, we do what we want with it.
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:08.239
So like end off.
00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:09.519
End off.
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:10.639
Love it.
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:14.079
Alright, so four and a half, three, seven and a half.
00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:20.079
But by the sounds of it, from a pure on-course experience, it's right up there alongside Khan.
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:21.760
Absolutely.
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:22.960
It's it's brilliant.
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:25.199
Yeah, it's it really is brilliant.
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:32.639
Worth going to and then I'm I'm almost most interested by how then Doombeg slots in.
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:44.239
Because I I got the gist from you that Khan and Ennis Crone kind of are the same kind of thing while June Irish golf courses.
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:49.599
Now, geographically, obviously Doombeg in a similar spot, but has a Trump influence.
00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:53.440
So really keen to understand how that kind of um shakes out in the resort.
00:44:54.559 --> 00:45:01.679
Yeah, so instantly you go to the, you know, when I stayed on property, and again, what a call-out Marie, sensational.
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:08.079
Um, the hospitality was fantastic, and everything that you want is there at Trump.
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:12.719
You know, it's it's a five-star resort hotel because it is.
00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:25.199
You know, you've got you've got the cottages that are sensational for like groups of guys, groups of whoever, but just rowdiness because it's a slightly bit further away from the main the main hotel building.
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:29.599
It's got its own putting greens down there, all free shuttle service, doesn't matter.
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:36.719
But you can get they've got fire pits, they've got barbecues, you can get people to send out steaks and cook them for you on your barbecues whilst you're putting away.
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:40.159
Like really good, well thought-out setup, right?
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:46.079
You can then go into the courtyard, which is just off the hotel, right next to the hotel.
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:58.159
You don't need a shuttle, like you're right next to the hotel, but really big, sort of like lodges that have like a couple of rooms in them, like full kitchen, lounge, downstairs toilet, you know what I mean?
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:06.079
Like there's like it's like a full little cabin type vibe, similar to what it felt like when went to Bandon and that sort of thing, and that sort of vibe.
00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:14.559
Again, great for like families, great for groups who want to maybe do like four to a room, and you can kind of do that.
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:21.119
And then you've got the suites and those in the actual hotel, which again is a step up once again, and they give you that ocean view.
00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:28.800
And again, you can have four person, four bed suites in the hotel, and that's you, you're in there, and you get the full you get the full treatment in there.
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:34.000
So instantly you come on property and it's just a completely different experience to what you're seeing at Carn and Ennisgrove.
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:35.920
Where where did you find yourself?
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:37.360
Placed up for the night.
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:40.960
Slotted in the courtyard, right in the middle, got a feel for it all.
00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:47.920
Um yeah, didn't need the full family, it wasn't taking a full family, but you know, just it's always nice to have a lounge.
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:51.039
You can just go and sit in the lounge and just take you put your feet up.
00:46:51.280 --> 00:47:02.639
Um yeah, slotted into the into the courtyard, which was was lovely, very close to the breakfast, which is always a good start when I had an early tea time at Doombeg.
00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:04.960
Um Doombeg there.
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:07.840
They've then got a couple of restaurants on site.
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:11.039
So you've got the Trumps Bar and Grill.
00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:15.360
It's got some TV, you know, we've got the sport on, had some of the golf on.
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:22.159
Um I was there Thursday night, Friday night, so we had the golf on, watched some of that, they had some of the rugby on, they had then some of the gay league football on.
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:27.840
So I always all loads loads of that, and typical sort of bar food, really nice, good stuff.
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:31.599
And then they've got the ocean view restaurant, which is sort of their like fine dining.
00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:34.880
Thought the menu was was small.
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:39.760
Well, I wasn't that impressed by that menu, to be fair, and we actually ended up not eating there.
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:42.639
Um that was just a bit of feedback for them.
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:49.199
Um, but beautiful restaurant, really nice, and that's where the breakfast is, which was like all served to you very good.
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:51.840
Great, great like bar in between as well.
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:57.920
That's right in the hub of the clut of the hotel itself, overlooks the 18th green.
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:06.880
You can kind of see the first tea, but right in there, fires are on, TV again if you want, a little bit of quiet, a bit of dim, beautiful.
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:08.320
What was the pricing like?
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:15.519
Because I know Turnbury, like it was it was solid, like Turnbury had you, and you uh you were just settling in for what it was.
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:18.400
Like, was it kind of similar kind of vibe there?
00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:20.800
I actually thought it was really reasonable.
00:48:21.039 --> 00:48:22.559
I genuinely thought it was really reasonable.
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:33.360
And they also have a um free of charge shuttle service that takes you into Doombeg town or village that they and you just call behind any of the bars in Doombeg and they'll come and pick you up.
00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:35.519
They've got a relationship with all the bars in Doombeg.
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:39.119
That's how small a place that little villain village is, which is just fantastic, right?
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:43.280
And the hospitality, you know, the stories go that they've found people 3 a.m.
00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:47.199
that they've been picking up from bars and this and that, and they've got the tea timers the next day.
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:52.079
If you're staying on property, they look after you, and you really feel it there, which which is great.
00:48:52.239 --> 00:49:04.960
So, yeah, what was a very inexperience was like you're staying on property, you you know the the helicopter um travel people, they have a fueling station at Dunebeg.
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:15.039
It's a real hub of being able to then get out and go and play golf elsewhere, um, and they're really keen to do that and be able to host people, and they do it really well as a result.
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:16.239
Nice.
00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:18.719
All right, let's let's get on to this golf course then.
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:20.480
Really interested to hear about it.
00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:27.440
So as a golf course, you're number 10 in Ireland, so it slots right in behind Carn, a few ahead of Ennis Grown.
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:30.000
They've made a lot of changes.
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:34.880
So um one and eighteen have been completely changed.
00:49:35.039 --> 00:50:15.840
In the the first used to be right outside the clubhouse, and you could literally sit in the Trump's bar, watch people tee off, and just give people dogs abuse if you wanted to, and then 18 sort of wrapped around right up the sea and went right up the side of the clubhouse due to um erosion, and then also because there's a crossing on one and eighteen, they've they've changed that so that now one is gonna be further over towards the sea, kicking it off, and then 18 is um gonna be now a part five that starts further back and comes right up to the front of Trump's.
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:23.360
So instead of seeing a t-shot, you're gonna see people finishing in the patio will all look onto the the end of 18, which still still works nicely.
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:30.480
Um as a result of that though, one was shortened and 18 was out of play, so they had a substitute extra tenth.
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:35.440
So still played 18 but missed the 18th hole, it doesn't open until the middle of May.
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:49.679
Now they've done this because of the erosion, and they've also done it, as I said, because they always, when when the Trump family bought the place, they um had always wanted to ensure that the you didn't cross walkway.
00:50:49.840 --> 00:50:54.400
So you to get to the 18th, you have to cross the first, essentially, was what was happening.
00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:55.679
And they didn't want that.
00:50:55.760 --> 00:51:03.679
And now that they've got the Amjun Irish Open in September, they're doing all of these works over this winter so that it beds in and it's ready to go.
00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:13.599
But it it shows the scale of what they can do there in that they've they've literally picked up dunes, pulled them across, and created two fairways with dunes up the middle.
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:15.920
It's really quite cool.
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:25.360
Well, when we had um Josh Simpson Ginger Golf on, he said that when they built the new course at Aberdeen, they were bringing in refrigerated grass.
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:35.440
So like budget is off the charts here, and so uh yeah, it it doesn't surprise me that they can do what sounds like quite a big task quite quickly.
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:36.559
Yeah, absolutely.
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:46.239
And the reason that I said all of that when you asked me where it fits and what I thought of the course is that I had it three out of the three courses.
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:49.599
I had it, I have it going carn, eniscrown, doombeg.
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:59.039
But I have to caveat that with that I haven't seen what are probably the gonna be two signature holes of Doombeg, like in their glory.
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:04.320
And so I want to be fair to that in that it might be completely different.
00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:06.719
It might be one, it might be two, it might still be three, who knows?
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:12.159
But we're talking three really top-tier tracks anyway, even being three is 13th violent.
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:22.960
Okay, so so so to be clear, you're saying that if one and eighteen are both like out of this world golf holes, then the other 16 were good enough where you could make an argument this.
00:52:23.679 --> 00:52:26.559
So we're talking about really fine margins between the three.
00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:28.719
Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:40.000
The thing that the the Trump courses, we saw it at the Ailsa, you know, I've I've not played the the Aberdeen ones, you know, but like all of it's pristine.
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:44.960
It is there isn't a grass like cut out of out of shape, out of way.
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:56.079
Like all of the the paths through the dunes are just perfectly grass, like beautiful grass, cut to the same length, clean, all goes one way.
00:52:56.159 --> 00:53:03.599
You know, all those small things that you don't even realise you notice until you play carn and screen, where it's slightly wilder.
00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:07.840
You get on Trump and you go, wow, this is manicured, like to the tits.
00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:13.440
Are the dunes still kind of as significant at Trump?
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:19.519
Like I feel like you've quite clearly been like, you know, Khan had these massive dunes, and that felt quite consistent.
00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:24.639
Ennis Grown was like dunes for two-thirds, but then maybe came out of them ever so slightly.
00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:29.039
What was for the 16 holes, maybe like what was the vibe for for Dune Back?
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:32.000
Yeah, it's a great question.
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:34.079
Yes, there's there's plenty there are dunes.
00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:39.840
I feel like they're mainly to the left of you, and you play a few holes through them.
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:43.039
And don't get me wrong, there's there's a couple of holes, like the sixth year.
00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:50.480
It felt a bit like abandoned in that you're on the side of the beach, a bit like high up, so the beach is down below you.
00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:53.440
I mean, we're talking like you could jump and you do yourself some damage.
00:53:53.760 --> 00:54:01.519
Um, but then your dunes on the right, and you kind of cut in between the the beach and the dunes, so you're kind of like left of it.
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:04.880
There's a par three, 14 for believe it is.
00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:17.039
I played it as 15, but it's 14 normally, which is like this downhill dunes behind it, some really quite big ones again behind you and around you, down towards the beach and the sea that you can see.
00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:31.519
I would say it's it's it's there are dunes, but they are less in play, and the holes are more cut slightly away from them and in smaller pockets with like a little bit of water here and there.
00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:38.000
Don't get me wrong, there's probably six or seven that impact the holes and they're right up into the dunes and up by the by the coast.
00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:41.760
But yeah, again, we're talking six or seven as opposed to twelve, as opposed to eighteen.
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:46.639
So, like, nice that's why it's less prevalent in that golf course.
00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:48.320
All right, here's with the score.
00:54:48.400 --> 00:54:52.960
Now, obviously, as you mentioned, a bit of a caveat here, first and eighteenth out of play.
00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:57.119
Um, so yeah, pinch of salt, but where are we at?
00:54:57.679 --> 00:55:00.000
I'm gonna give it, I'm gonna I'll give it, I'm gonna give it a four-five.
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:13.199
I am, but again, if we're doing the micro weight ratings, it's a four-three with those holes out of play because I think it slightly changed the tenth, which is a great par five, like right into the corner.
00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:14.000
Didn't see all of that.
00:55:14.400 --> 00:55:15.519
You kind of play a couple of holes.
00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:20.000
So I'm I'll give it a 4-3 so it gets into the 4-5 category.
00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:30.480
As I say, with those two holes in play, I think it goes significantly higher, you know, rather than it being a shortened one and no 18 and you kind of get a random 10 elsewhere.
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:40.639
Um, I'm gonna give it a yeah, a four, a four-five, but much lower rated four-five than the other two at this present moment, just because of they're doing changes and that's how it is.
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:42.000
It's still sensational.
00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:47.840
Um, I think then the three Ps, you've got again full grass range, short game area.
00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:50.719
Um, the Pro Shop is massive.
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:55.280
Um the logo is again, I don't I don't love it.
00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:57.599
It's like at the D with Doombag.
00:55:57.760 --> 00:55:58.960
Um got a lot of things.
00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:04.159
I was gonna ask you what I was gonna I was gonna ask you what the um logo situation is there.
00:56:04.239 --> 00:56:12.079
So Turnbury obviously had the Trump coat of arms with Trump Turnbury as one logo and then the lighthouse as a second logo.
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:13.199
Is it similar?
00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:14.159
I'm looking now.
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:19.599
So it's uh it's it's the flag with the D and the Doombag, and then I assume they have a Trump version as well.
00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:24.400
Is that and you've got the Trump, you've got the Trump coat of arms as well on on some of the bits.
00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:28.239
Um, yeah, exactly, very exactly the same as as what Turnbury was.
00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:32.239
It's got the logo that it had before it got taken over, and then it has the Trump stuff.
00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:36.719
Um, loads of kit, big, big shop, nice enough.
00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:38.639
Don't think it's the best logo again.
00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:41.440
Patio's good, it's a good patio.
00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:55.519
Um, be keen to see what it looks like when it's all finished because I think there's loads of space for them to put tables and chairs out on what was the old Circe T and sort of create an amphitheatre.
00:56:55.599 --> 00:57:01.599
I think what they're planning to do for the Irish Open is have a big amphitheatre around the back of 18 and up one.
00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:03.519
So I think seeing that would be really cool.
00:57:03.679 --> 00:57:07.679
And I appreciate that's not a patio, but I think that will get them thinking about what things could be.
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:11.440
I think the patio at the moment is is it's not quite there.
00:57:11.840 --> 00:57:14.400
They're changing where 18 is, so they're moving all that around.
00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:37.039
So I'm gonna give it I'm gonna give it a three and a half for the three P's, and that's not including then the beautiful hotel and all of that, but I think it's just in a little bit of a um obviously it's redoing its course, and I think if I went this time next year, it would be much, much higher.
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:44.639
And I'm really excited to see it uh in what will be all of its glory in um in the Irish Open later in the year.
00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:46.000
Nice.
00:57:46.159 --> 00:57:48.480
Well, like I said, it sounded like a hell of a good trip.
00:57:48.639 --> 00:58:03.280
I think even though it's very it's quite spread out over that part of the world, the golf experience that you get just seems to be on an almost unrivaled level, I would say.
00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:14.719
Uh I've not done it, but I just I just thought what I'd just ask you to do, maybe not in as much detail as as the ones you've just done, but I know you have also done Bally Bunyan, I know you have also done Traley.
00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:21.199
Maybe just a c a couple of notes on each of those and maybe where your scores are for them as well, just so you give a bit of a more rounded picture.
00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:29.599
Trilli Bally Bunyan, there's a ferry from Doombeg that goes straight to Bally Bunyan as well, and Ballybunion Trilli area.
00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:35.599
So it on the map, you think you've got a three-hour drive, you haven't just get the ferry or get the helicopter.
00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:41.039
Like so much cheaper, uh so much quicker, go runs until eight o'clock, goes to Doombeg.
00:58:41.119 --> 00:58:50.559
So you can really clip off those three courses in a lot um shorter space of time than maybe what the Google Maps or whatever, whatever maps brand you use.
00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:54.239
And we're not Google Cine, it's everything right now.
00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:57.920
Um I got an all-time day at Trelee.
00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:03.519
It was shorts, t-shirt, very little, very little wind, middle of July.
00:59:04.159 --> 00:59:08.960
For me, Trilli is in the top five courses I've ever played.
00:59:09.199 --> 00:59:14.079
Um, I think the closest course that's come to that is Khan in its styling.
00:59:14.239 --> 00:59:20.159
I think Trilli and Khan are very similar in having these really pronounced dunes.
00:59:20.320 --> 00:59:22.559
Obviously, Khan's got the biggest, biggest in Europe.
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:29.199
Um, but I just saw it on a much windier day, was togged up, a little bit colder than and and I played it on my own.
00:59:29.280 --> 00:59:41.039
You've got to remember there's there's those subjective elements of I played them on my own, I've gone out in a one ball, cracked on, whereas round trilogy, you've got a bit of the 2v2 match going and the sun's out, and then a few drinks afterwards and all that sort of vibe.
00:59:41.199 --> 00:59:47.119
So I think I've got a trilli at a five.
00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:51.199
I've got a trillion at like a four, like a four-six.
00:59:51.679 --> 00:59:53.280
Like uh sorry, what am I talking about?
00:59:53.440 --> 00:59:55.199
Like a four-eight, a five.
00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:57.119
If I've got it at a five, yeah.
00:59:57.440 --> 01:00:00.159
It's I it's in my top five, it might even be more than that.
01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:01.280
I think it's brilliant.
01:00:01.599 --> 01:00:13.280
Again, had a great day, played nicely on it, but I think it's very similar to a carn, and it's very similar to a carn in Ennis Grown in its styling, very pronounced tunes, very beautiful.
01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:17.599
Um, and then Bally Bunyan architecturally is I mean it's top 100 in the world golf course.
01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:19.199
You like that's a fact.
01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:25.840
I have it as a five again, but I've got it at like a four, seven, five, like it's just in its five for me.
01:00:26.079 --> 01:00:30.639
Um that's I loved it, I thought it was brilliant.
01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:41.760
Um the way I would rank them would probably be, and you've got to bear with me now, been a few years, I'd probably go Trele, Khan, Bally Bunyan, Enniscreme, Doomberg.
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:42.880
Boom.
01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:43.760
There you go.
01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:46.400
That is the insight everyone wants to hear.
01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:49.199
And by the way, all of them are phenomenal.
01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:54.320
Like Doomberg at five is not like a five, it's like it's not like a fifth course or fifth choice.
01:00:54.400 --> 01:00:57.599
If you end up going there, like if someone will turn around to me and go, that's number one.
01:00:57.679 --> 01:00:59.599
Like they're all that close, they're all sensational.
01:00:59.920 --> 01:01:02.480
Yeah, and and other ones to throw in there.
01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:06.000
Obviously, you've got a dare having the rider cup, slightly different styling, obviously.
01:01:06.159 --> 01:01:18.400
Um, inland course, but Waterville, um, hogsheads, old heads, like I mean, there are a lot of unbelievable looking golf courses.
01:01:18.559 --> 01:01:21.119
I'm absolutely going to have spins to get out there.
01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:27.760
And just from what I was seeing on emails, the hot like you know, they rolled out the red carpet for you, they look like they were so hospitable.
01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:31.679
And I just think that is a good omen for what they probably are like with groups as well.
01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:37.119
So I think if you went over there, you'd just have an unbelievable golfing experience and an unbelievable off-course experience.
01:01:37.199 --> 01:01:43.199
And so it really could be the ultimate golf destination, like it really could.
01:01:43.360 --> 01:01:47.440
I I think you're you're hard pressed um to to find somewhere.
01:01:47.679 --> 01:01:51.280
Maybe it doesn't have quite the history with open championships and stuff like that.
01:01:51.360 --> 01:02:04.480
But I mean, what a spot! Yeah, and you know, anecdotally, just to sort of say as well, just to add, is I played with a couple of American guys um on Doom Beg, great guys, Rob and Ryan.
01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:06.239
Um, shout out to those boys.
01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:11.760
Uh, they were they would they'd been over quite a lot of times in Ireland, quite a lot of times in Scotland.
01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:14.960
Rob had paid played 48 of the top hundred in the world.
01:02:15.039 --> 01:02:17.760
I was like, wow, that's really good going.
01:02:18.320 --> 01:02:30.400
Um, and their their words were, I don't know why you'd all come to the States when you've got all of this golfing phenomenal, like golfing land here.
01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:33.440
And I was like, Yeah, it's fair, it's fair.
01:02:33.519 --> 01:02:37.440
What everything that's a little bit further away just looks a little bit shinier.
01:02:37.599 --> 01:02:41.519
So you just want to always just try something that you've not got to play.
01:02:41.679 --> 01:02:56.639
But it was a really interesting take, and you know, they were saying that you can't beat Lynx Golf in Scotland Islands, they've not the bit of Southport, but but Scotland Island was what we were talking about mainly because of the um the landscapes that we talked about.
01:02:56.719 --> 01:03:06.320
Um, so I just thought that was a nice, nice tidbit to add in there that we all like to find shiny things from afar, but actually we don't realise how good we've got it at home.
01:03:06.559 --> 01:03:08.079
Yeah, no, it's a nice point.
01:03:08.159 --> 01:03:08.880
And you know what?
01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:13.920
Quite a good segue, I think, to uh to a little bullet point I just wanted to talk about before we we head off.
01:03:14.079 --> 01:03:25.119
I watched a video from I think they're called Gulfy City on YouTube, and they'd done an hour YouTube video basically reviewing their stay at Sad Valley, which is where we're going to in the summer.
01:03:25.519 --> 01:03:30.800
And let me tell you, I am frothing at the mouth to get out on that trip.
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:42.159
Like I am so excited, and like you said, it's it's a it's a big shiny toy over in America, and the the courses just look so varied.
01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:58.480
Now, obviously, with you know, you've gone on this island trip that could have been with eight people, let's say, obviously, wasn't it by myself, but like hypothetically, you have played three golf courses which stylistically are from the same tree, maybe from a different branch, but like the same tree.
01:03:58.639 --> 01:04:04.800
What's so interesting about Sand Valley, what I'm really excited about, is they all look so different, the courses.
01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:13.039
And it was the first kind of video I've really taken in where you've got Mammoth Dunes with the huge dunes, you've got Sand Valley, which seems to be a kind of bit of a blend of everything.
01:04:13.280 --> 01:04:29.119
Sedge Valley is more like your Surrey Heathland, like English Heathland golf course, and then you've got the Lido, which is just really quite an abstract design by the looks of it, and just the on-site cabin, like the whole shebang.
01:04:29.199 --> 01:04:29.920
Like, I haven't done it.
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:33.440
I know you've done Bandon before, but I'm just so excited about it.
01:04:33.519 --> 01:04:39.119
And and it's just like the little things, like they've got like a taco shop when it's just like one dollar taco.
01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:51.760
So, unlike where you know, I griped a little bit about Turnbury and you're paying 18 pounds for a bree and bacon toasty, San Valley obviously just charge you up front and subsidize the food and then just make it really cheap.
01:04:51.920 --> 01:05:01.920
And and I personally think that's the way to do it because let's all be honest, when you pay a deposit seven months in advance, it's basically free by the time you get there, isn't it?
01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:06.800
And so then when the food's only a dollar, you're just like, oh my goodness, what an unbelievable value this is.
01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:10.880
Little do you know you just paid 15% more than you need to when you booked it in the first place.
01:05:11.039 --> 01:05:16.559
But anyway, I know it's quite a long way away at the moment, but I just wanted to speak about it because I am so excited about it.
01:05:16.639 --> 01:05:18.719
I can't wait to sound value this time.
01:05:19.119 --> 01:05:20.239
It's fast approachable.
01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:21.760
I mean, we're only three months away.
01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:24.000
Yeah, like it's it's not that far away.
01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:25.599
Yeah, it'll soon be with us.
01:05:25.840 --> 01:05:27.840
Um it's gonna be sensational.
01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:32.320
Really excited to play it, really excited to also throw in Aaron Hills there that we've got lined up.
01:05:32.480 --> 01:05:36.800
If if anyone at Whistling Straits is listening, we've been trying to get through.
01:05:37.199 --> 01:05:38.159
In a nightmare.
01:05:38.320 --> 01:05:39.599
Can you sort it, please?
01:05:41.039 --> 01:05:42.239
We're gonna throw that in as well.
01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:45.599
So yeah, there's gonna be some really good comparisons being able to be made.
01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:49.440
I'm really excited to be able to to see how it compares to Bandon.
01:05:49.840 --> 01:05:57.199
Um, because for me that is the ultimate destination, and if they can come anywhere close, then they've done a phenomenal job.
01:05:57.280 --> 01:06:01.599
Uh, don't get me wrong, we've not done the cabo, um A couple of cabo bits and things like that.
01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:02.800
I want to see those.
01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:04.400
Yeah, really excited to see it.
01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:06.000
Really, really excited.
01:06:06.880 --> 01:06:08.880
Yes, excited indeed.
01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:11.360
And then just wanted to leave you with this.
01:06:12.320 --> 01:06:21.199
You mentioned like courses in your top five, and that's obviously a list that's kind of brewing and churning around in Josh's brain on a day-to-day, I'd imagine.
01:06:22.559 --> 01:06:31.599
I think a secondary list, which I'm just trying to form at the moment, is a list of hidden gems, ones that just just you get unexpected unexpectedly good.
01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:34.559
You get taken off guard by the quality of it.
01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:36.719
And I think it deserves its own list.
01:06:36.960 --> 01:06:44.559
And let me tell you, when you were off in Ireland, I went and played a golf course, which was not on any radar whatsoever.
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However, got the invite, and of course I said yes.
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Yeah.
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Headed down to Knoll Park in Sevenoaks last week, which I believe is in the is about 77th in England.
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So it's a ranked golf course on one of these lists out there.
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Worth worth gonna go in and nibbling on.
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Had no expectations whatsoever going down to this golf course.
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And let me tell you, Knoll Park is unbelievable.
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It cost 75 quid on a weekday in April, and I just had an absolutely sensational time.
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The closest thing, I was trying to think of what I could try to compare it.
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So it's it's in this a thousand-acre old deer estate, medieval deer estate.
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They've got this huge estate home building complex.
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Like it's more than just a single building in the middle of it.
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And so, you know, vast amounts of lab.
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They could have four golf courses there, but they've got routing for one.
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Get there, full range.
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You know, you could hit two drivers and not make the end of the range.
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Maybe you couldn't, but I certainly could.
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Short gain area, putting, all the rest of it, and then you tee off.
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And the course just like rolls so beautifully through really actually quite like dramatic land for Kent, which you know, inland Kent, you're not really expecting it to be that crazy.
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And you just got loads of kind of half-pipe tunnels that you're shooting through for par fours, scorable, fun.
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You've got deer running around everywhere, trees kind of lining.
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It was honestly like it was unbelievable.
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It the close thing I compare it to, it was kind of gave a little bit of Hollingwell kind of vibes.
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You know, Hollingwell felt quite wild wild, and the holes really like worked with the land.
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Yeah, and so yeah, it was good, it wasn't quite as gorse and Heathland lined, it was more it was Parkland, but just just a really, really great course, and one of you know, one of the best hidden gems that I've played in a long, long time.
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And so, yeah, not far from London.
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And so, if if you ever get the chance, Null Park is well worth doing.
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Yeah, well, we're gonna have to take that off.
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And I agree with you.
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I think whilst we all talk about what's our top five and the big courses that we all want to tick off, there is something really beautiful about being pleasantly surprised, excited, enjoying a lesser-known hidden gem that's just really looking after itself.
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It's doing the best, and I'm not trying to be patronising here with any of these courses.
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It's doing the best it can with the piece of land it's got, it's in great nick, it's been fun, great welcoming, and they they're doing everything that they they should be doing, and it's a top hundred in in England golf course as a result.
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And I think that that golf is is getting very expensive.
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I think that's that's one of the things that we're all we're all experiencing.
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Finding these hidden gems that are at 75 quid, no one's gonna say it's cheap in the grand schemes of life, but it's cheap in terms of a golf fee, um, which is scary, and I think it's you know it's only going upwards.
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They that it's really pleasant to get those experiences and experience that.
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So I love to hear that.
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Let's keep some segments on top five hidden gems, biggest hidden gem of the year, wherever we're at.
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Let's keep plugging that because they they're the unsung heroes of the golfing world.
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They they are indeed, and and I think we'll we'll leave on this point.
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I really truly believe this.
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If you're in the UK and you want to go play new golf courses, April is the month.
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Weather's turned, conditioning's looking really, really good, and a lot of golf clubs jump up to their summer pricing in May.
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So if you're looking to play new places, go and clip a couple in April.
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It is the month to do it.
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Yeah.
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Ditto.
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Nice.
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All right, mate.
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Well, good to hear.
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Glad you enjoyed Ireland.
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Enjoy the Masters.
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Be interesting to see if any of your picks come off.
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I hope they do for you.
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And uh, as ever, we're full program golf, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, and I will see you, Joshua, in the next one.
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See you soon.
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Welcome back, full programme golf podcast with me, Josh Conlan, and as always, Stevie Mack in the studio.
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This is episode 30.
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Who'd have thought we'd have got 30 podcasts out of us and plenty more to come?
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Today we're going to be previewing the masters.
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What a week of golf! As well as just clipping off a couple of those nice trips that we've been on and talking a bit of golf across the UK and Ireland.
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Let's get into it.
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Stevie Stevie, how are you doing?
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Joshua, my dear friend, how are you, good sir?
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The sun is out, it is shining on us.
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And uh you know what?
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I feel like we always start with the sun and the weather, but so we should.
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We're in England, we don't get it.
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I'm feeling good, the sun is out.
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How are you?
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Yeah, I'm good.
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Yes.
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Uh beautiful day today as we record this.
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And I think, you know, we we wanted to say spring had sprung the last couple of weeks, but I think officially spring has sprung.
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There's some uh greenery on the trees, it's a bit firmer underfoot, and it feels like golf season.
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The clocks have changed, that's always a big one.
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Competition season's underway.
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I'm on the golf course at 10 past seven tomorrow morning.
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It's a sign of things to come, it's a sign of the summer.
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I can't wait.
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Yeah.
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I was able to um clip off first comp of the year actually yesterday, and and you know, a post evening round, you know, post day, full day, evening round of golf.
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First one of the year, feels great.
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Um I will say, and I have to say, to bring it back to the resolutions that we made at the start of the um start of the year, it was the first club throw of the year.
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Uh we got to the eighth, we got to the 7th of April, and we uh yeah, I I actually went whole hog.
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I cobbed the four eye uh the sorry the 50 degree wedge um quite a good distance, took a bit of a branch out, and then this is sparted the bag, you know, when he like full on like boo right into the middle of the bag and just sent that one going.
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So I gave it I gave it some good beans to be honest.
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Um we've got out of the system, we start again, it's like you know, like Alcoholics Anonymous, how many days sober have you been?
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I'm back to this is day one.
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I am Josh, I am a club thrower, and um great to meet you all.
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This is day one of my journey once again.
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Oh well, no, okay, lots to unpack there.
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Let's let's settle into this one.
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So, first of all, disappointed.
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I'm disappointed myself, but I've got to bring it out.
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You got you got to April, but it was your first real well motherwell, real your first competition round of the year.
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So if you could argue the first really meaningful competition, uh round, sorry, and and the club's gone.
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So um, you know, restart, come back, better, stronger.
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I believe in you.
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A little bit.
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Um, what hole did the throw happen on?
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Just I just want to just experience the potential build-up pre-throw.
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Yeah.
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And you know what?
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It's a hole that I've got previous with.
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It's a hole where I've snapped my putter on, it was the sixth hole.
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Um I started, you know, I didn't start well.
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I um I didn't hit many good shots.
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Um, and I got to the sixth, and I'd still not really hit a shot, and I'd finally put it down the middle.
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Um and I had, you know, 138 yards in, hit a 50-degree wedge, expecting it to be uh fine.
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And I just as it came out, I was a bit of a piss missile, really, and just sent it straight over the green, pulled it a bit as well, and knew it was left and long.
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And so that was where the um the club toss went.
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And then didn't hit a very good chip.
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I actually was trying to get too cute, chubbed it a bit, pitched it on, hold the pup for my bogey, and that was when this is Sparta came out, and I just fully just middle of the boot, middle of the bag.
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So you could argue there were two separate occasions, but I thought, you know what, we're on that same hole.
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Um, after that, there were no more club tosses.
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I I realised the error of my ways.
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Um, the golf was heinous.
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I'm really excited to have my first lesson of the year, which is why the golf was heinous, because I've not been paying attention to the game.
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Our boy Sammy Truman, friend of the pod, been on the pod.
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I get to go and um just go to the guru tomorrow and I can't wait.
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I can't wait.
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I have let myself down, I've let the viewers down, I've let the listeners down, I've let you down, um, but back stronger.
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Um and we we will remember them.
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Uh we will we will be back, and I'm not gonna throw another club for the year.
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Can I can I ask?
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Well, what was it just kind of, you know, was it the were the the goals that we set just not forefront of the mind and the the the miss came and it happened, or as you were doing it, did you know you were breaking the promise that you made to the loyal FPG listeners?
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I knew I was breaking the promise.
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Yeah, uh the club could have gone every hole previous.
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So I I'd actually I'd argue that they were they're they were the reason it got to six.
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They're like that is that is what it was.
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It was it wasn't the first occasion, and and you know what?
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Over a longer period of time, I've been you know, a bit like Happy Gilmore, where you you start like you start the club throw and you stop yourself.
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Oh no, he's gonna stop.
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I've had a few of those.
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So it wasn't it's not come out of nowhere, but it will not happen again.
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That is my commitment here on the 8th of April.
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Well, good good luck to uh Jan Truman tomorrow.
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I think that's what we'll we'll uh we'll leave leave that on.
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Yeah, he's gonna need it.
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It was all appalling, appalling, yeah.
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Nice.
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Well, I'm I'm now three lessons into my little block, my little improvement block that I'm putting into place.
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And um it's looking good.
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I've put I've put a couple of swings on video, which I feel like are some of the best visually I've seen in this 14-year journey that I've been on.
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Haven't spent a huge amount of time out on the course, which does worry me slightly.
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So I can't remember exactly the the goal that I put with something about practice sessions.
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I've actually had quite a lot of practice sessions, but I'm probably not marrying enough course time with it.
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So out tomorrow morning, as I said, and um the hope is that miraculously we're just better all of a sudden, which it's never quite worked like that, but you can dare to dream, can't you?
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So uh yeah, Stone Market Golf Club, 7.10 tomorrow.
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Let's see what we can do.
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Love it, absolutely love it.
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Um that's a look.
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Thank you very much.
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All right, let's let's get into some golf.
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So last week, final tournament before the Masters, the Valero.
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A couple of things that immediately spring to my mind from it.
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JJ Spawn, absolutely no interest in him winning events, so good for him.
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Great eagle on 17, I think it was, and and and good that got the job done.
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But um, yeah, doesn't really do much for me.
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I thought McIntyre looked really good, fell away, didn't he?
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Um, was it was in good position, but as we'll move on to, do like him going into the Masters as a lefty.
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I know he doesn't fall into all these stats that we've been seeing, but um good to see Bobby Mack with a bit of form.
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Aberg again, up there, falls away on Sunday.
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So, all in all, it was one of those ones that I can't say I I watched a huge amount of it, and it was um, yeah, just the kind of almost like the bye week prior to the big one.
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Yeah, I think there's always a couple of good stories there in the Valero because there's people playing the hearts out for that last spot.
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Now, I was I was very surprised, and I believe I'm right in saying this, that they had they had to win.
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It wasn't just there is a spot available and the top finishing non-masters entrant gets in.
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That's not the terminology I was looking for, but you know, like I was looking at Matt Wallace, and I like Matt Wallace.
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I like that he also has heads off on the golf course.
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Um, and he played his heart out, and I actually thought he'd got the winning score when he got in at 16.
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I thought, you know what?
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Hats off, especially when Spawn bogeared 15.
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Um I thought, brilliant, he's gonna be in the Masters.
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And then obviously he didn't go on to win it, Spawn went on to win it.
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And I was they didn't cover in enough detail that that means he's now not in the Masters.
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Because I was like, does he is he still in?
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Like he's still the top finishing non-masters player.
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Um but no, interesting he didn't.
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I think I agree with you in many ways, JJ Spawn's not the the most riveting winner.
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But wow, he likes to hit just drive a green and make Eagle when it matters, doesn't he?
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He did it on in the US Open at 16, didn't he?
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Without I think he made Birdie in the end there, but hit an unbelievable t-shirt.
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And then to go Birdie Eagle 16-17 to take it by one, he's pretty good nads.
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And I I've got you know, you've just got to go.
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He's seized his bollocks and he's just done it.
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So fair play.
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Uh fair play.
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So I like that.
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I like that.
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You mentioned Bobby Mack.
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I I don't know, I think his dress sense just kills me.
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Just kills me.
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I can't get behind him when he just wears the worst night kit you could possibly find in the catalogue.
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So, like, okay, yeah, whatever.
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Doesn't particularly float on a boat.
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Auberg.
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He just he's just gonna become a serial second placer, the way I'm seeing it.
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And it's a big early shout.
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Is he gonna go in the Shane Lowry camp, earn lots of money, have a great living?
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Always gonna be light, perennial underachiever, albeit I'm sure he'd happily be in the Shane Lowry camp and take an open.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Well, yeah, I wonder if you asked um Ludvig right now, you were like, you get to win the open, successful Ryder Cup player, a couple other wins here and there, and that's your career.
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Do you reckon he'd sign off on it?
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I mean, you've got to, haven't you?
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He probably wouldn't because that's how he's got to that level.
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I mean, all of them have got to have elite mentality to be as good as they are.
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But you've got to.
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It's a seriously good career, you know.
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It's a it's a really, really good career.
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It's he's an open he's a major champion.
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I think you take the major out of it.
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No, you don't take it at all.
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But he's a major winner.
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Throwing all the hole-in-wands he's got at all these different places, you can have those as well.
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Winning, winning take.
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I don't I don't think he would, but I think he should, because I think in the end he'll win less.
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Yeah, no, I agree with you.
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I actually listened to him on the four-play pod, uh, and he actually came across like a really, really nice bloke, Ludvig.
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I was just like, he really like elevated himself in in my in my world, and so I really am pulling for him a little bit more now.
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Uh, really enjoyed the story of his mate from Sweden came over to America.
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Uh, good golf would grew up playing together, and Ludvig and told him that they were going to play Augusta on the Wednesday, and on the Tuesday, his mate was like, Oh, like we got a free day tomorrow.
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Like, do you think we could maybe get a game of golfing somewhere?
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And he just turned to him and was just like, Yeah, it's actually already booked playing Augusta National.
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Could you imagine?
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That is sensational.
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That would be unbelievable.
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Yeah, Bobby Mack.
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Um, Bobby Mack is the least Nike Nike athlete I think I know of.
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Yeah, and he's always been Nike, isn't he?
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I just I don't really I don't really see that marriage at all.
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He looks like I'm trying to think, he he's the kind of person who'd be sponsored by Pringle.
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You know what I mean?
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Just like pretty, yeah, just like average old school golf brand.
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I feel like that would be more the making.
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Um, but as I said, and I think we can segue uh quite quickly into I know listeners will probably be listening to this either during or postmasters, but it's it's the Wednesday here for us, so we're gonna have a little dabble before it all kicks off.
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I've kind of been ignoring the the left-handed success, Augusta, and not really paying attention.
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You know, we've thrown loads of names out, we've had lots of stats being fed our way in the last couple of weeks.
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But when you think of the lefties in the field, I think it would be silly to ignore them as a collective completely.
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Keen for your thoughts.
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And the history suggests that they're gonna be right in the mixer, aren't they?
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Um, you know, Mickelson, Weir, Bubba all don't Bobby Mack not won it, but he's finished top 10, certainly top 15, because I know he finished high enough to get an invite back a few years ago when he was not quite as high as he obviously is now.
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Um how do I think they'll get on?
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Off the top of my head, Bobby's the highest ranked left-hander.
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There's no Philly Mick in the field.
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16 to 1, Bobby Mack is.
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I think that is if any if anyone is taking him at 16 to 1, give your head a wobble.
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Like you're a joke of a better.
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Like it's an appalling better 16 to 1.
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You know, you've got Tommy Fleetwood 16 to 1.
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He's a different calibre of golfer.
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And even that at 16 is probably not that much.
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And it depends on what your sons are, right?
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I mean, if you're spending big money, then crack on.
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But the mill gambler.
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Have you got the odds in front of you then?
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I do, yeah.
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What what's just just just fire off some you know, top couple, then maybe just a couple of a couple of interesting names of note.
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I'd love to.
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Um, so as expected, favourite is Scotty Sheffler, nine to two.
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Then you move to John Raum at eight to one, and then McElroy and DeChambeau at nines.
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So then you sort of we'll we'll do the top.
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I know that's four players, but we'll do the top six, because then they're different levels.
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You've got Xander Shoffley at ten, and then Ludwig at eleven, which I think again is crazy, crazy short for a guy who is a cash machine, but and you know what?
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Each way, yeah, maybe.
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Okay.
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Cam Jung at 16 is better value than Bobby Mack in my book.
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Justin Rose is in at 16 now.
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I mean, I I actually I've got some money on JR, obviously.
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Obviously.
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I've got some money on JR.
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I've got JR at um what have I got him out?
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What have I got my boy at?
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There with me.
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As I find him, I've got him at 22.
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I'm feeling good about that.
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Feeling good about my boy at 22.
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We've got about the boy.
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Um, some exciting names.
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I've actually I've actually got a few bets on myself.
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So let me tell you where I've gone.
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I've used a bit of the stats that we had, and then just a bit of a feeling in the gut.
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Yeah, that's a feel in the gut.
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You know, it could have been something I ate dodgy last night, but I felt it in the gut, and I just wanted a few of them.
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So um you better you better I've got a few.
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Like I've I've I've really dabbled across the pen.
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So many will say Matt Fitzpatrick at 14 to 1 is too short.
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I would agree with them.
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Have I got money on him?
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Yes, I have, because I'm enjoying it.
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And I like the narrative that that brings.
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JR at 22.
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I got Colin Morikau at 22.
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He's just he's he's statistically the best iron player in the world right now.
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I got Patty Reid at 25.
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I like Patty Reid.
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It's just I don't know how fit is Morikau, that's the question.
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Yeah, and that's why you can't put him in the in your in your four for the for the sweep state we've got, which we'll get on to as well.
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I said it on the last pod.
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I've got Nikolai Huygard at 40 to 1.
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He will finish inside the top 15.
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I said it on the last one.
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I'm doubling down, he will do it.
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I've got my boy Sepp, just vibes in a way, just proper vibes in a way, 45 to 1.
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He's got a terrible record at the Masters, though.
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Ah, has he?
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Because stats-wise, he's up there, isn't he?
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He kind of ticks a lot of the boxes.
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He's right in it.
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And then I've got three more, and you could argue I've got half the field at this point, but I've not got a lot on, and I'm just enjoying it.
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I've got Alex Norrin at 100.
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Wow, like that.
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I've got Sergio Garcia at 125.
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Like, I'm not being funny, he's won there each way.
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Just worth a dabble.
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And then I've got Corey Connors, 45s.
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Corey Connors doesn't know how to finish outside the top 20 at the Masters.
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He just doesn't.
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He's gonna be thereabouts.
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There you go.
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Pick out of that one of 65 playlists that have could win.
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Like it.
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Well, I was gonna ask you for your three top picks, not necessarily the the ones that your heart's crying for, but the ones that your head's asking for.
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Um and so there were some heart and head ones within there.
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Maybe if you just strip back and go, look, you know, take the person out of it, take the where they're from out of it, like what who who are your three top picks?
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It I I I like value because I'm not putting enough on to go for I'm gonna answer that with how I picked the I'm gonna go four if I may.
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I'm gonna answer that with how I picked the sweepstakes.
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So we have a sweepstak, uh, one of our our dear friends, Kurt, puts it on, and it's you've got to pick a golfer data golf, top one to ten rank data golf, 11 to 20, 21 to 40, and 41 plus.
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So there's quite a nice variation, and with it being data golf, you get the live the live guys on there as well.
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So I went in the in the top one to ten category, and the reason I'm using this as the example is because I think it gives a couple of it'll give a couple of runners and riders and then a couple of maybe maybe outsiders.
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Um so I've gone John Rom in that first camp, that first category.
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I think he's just been playing great.
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I I think he's right up there.
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I've gone um Bryson in the second camp because again, I feel like that's almost a joker.
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He should be in the top 10.
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If he's not, it's a bit of a it's a bit of a bonus to be able to nibble him alongside Rom.
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But I did fancy Mara Coward, but again, to your point, how fit is he?
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Who knows?
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In the third camp, I was going Rosie, but I do think he's good.
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I think it I I do think now at 14s, I think that's a little bit short.
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I think at 22 is it's a decent value, but unfortunately that he'd already been taken, so I've gone with Set, which I don't hate, at 45.
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I think I said I got him at.
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And then in the fourth slot, 41 plus, um Patty Reed, loves Augusta, knows Augusta, and actually he's pretty short at 25, but I think it's a pretty good value.
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And not out of the four, but I've called him out, and I'm gonna say it again: good value at 40 to 1, Nikolai Huygard.
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Nikolai Huygard.
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Love it.
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That's right.
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The the onus is on me to get this pot out early enough so people can get these these gems that you're what you're you're spitting on the on the mic.
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Yeah, I think I agree with you completely.
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I think Rahm is the favourite.
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I think he is playing the best golf right now of the big boys in the world, and so he is my pit if I had one.
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I love Patrick Reed.
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He was on fire at the beginning of this, you know, only a couple of weeks ago, really.
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When you look back uh on the DP World Tour, one at Augusta, mad for the moment.
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I think he's a dark horse, and then I'm going to give you one other name that hasn't been mentioned.
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Um, I was listening to Kevin Kisner speak about his picks, and he says, Jordan Spith is playing really, really good golf at the moment.
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He's just not holding any parts.
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However, he knows the Greens and Augusta.
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He can get round that golf course, and so don't be surprised if the jacket is being slipped on Speith kind of out of nowhere on Sunday.
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But he's 28 to 1 short.
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I just thought I'd bring up the odds as well and see where that was.
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But yeah, hey, he'd be he'd be a pretty popular winner, wouldn't he, amongst quite a few people?
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Yeah, um outside of the actual go.
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I'm I'm not sure there's you know, with McElroy and the Grand Slam done now, we've got no tiger playing, you know, is he gonna make the cut and all that?
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What's what's the narrative of the 2026 Masters, other than the fact it's it is the Masters?
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I I'm not really sure there is a massive one, and I'll be honest with you, I think the biggest narrative going into this week is this is Frankie Fleawood hitting the green tonight?
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That that is the question that is on the on the top of my top of my brain and on on the tongue, end of my tongue.
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Is he gonna do it?
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Uh I'm I'm sorry to say, I I couldn't care less.
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Uh yeah, it just doesn't do anything for me, that sort of stuff.
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Um great if he does, if he doesn't, what a shame.
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Do you watch the partering?
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It'll be on in the background.
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Some years I do, some years I don't.
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When it got rained off, I think it was a couple of years ago.
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Before that, I watched them all.
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And we got rained off, Champions League football tonight.
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I'll probably put the Champions League on.
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It's just the way it's dropping this year.
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Um I'll probably I'll probably I'll probably catch it, have a look.
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You'll have a dabble.
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I'll have a dabble here and there.
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Yeah.
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I'm uh yeah, it is it's it is what it is at this point, isn't it?
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Like I don't really get it.
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Like no one wants to win it, and it's just it's the old boys just trying to clip it to try and show you they've got it still, but they inevitably haven't, and someone who finishes in the bottom third of the tournament wins it every year.
00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:33.440
Final thought for it, which I thought was really interesting, and I just couldn't believe this is the case.
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So um, Champions Dinner was last night.
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I read that the past winners have the option to order off the like standard menu alongside the menu set by the champion.
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And I just thought that is absolutely bizarre.
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Could you imagine?
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I I would feel so rude if whoever champion throws on a menu and you're just like, you know what?
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I'm okay, and I'm just gonna order the cheeseburger.
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Burger off the menu.
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Like, I just I couldn't believe that that was an option.
00:22:03.359 --> 00:22:04.720
It really made me laugh.
00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:06.079
That is wild.
00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:19.599
But you know, if Bubba Watson's serving up that absolute was fest that he tried to put in place, you know, almost out of a lack of thought that's gone into it, I'd be like, you know what, mate, I'm gonna order the burger off the menu, not have your burger or whatever the difference was.
00:22:19.759 --> 00:22:21.359
Like, you can do one.
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Um he he served the same menu both times as well, which is just crazy.
00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:31.519
Caesar salad, grilled chicken, and I think it was like confetti cake or something.
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Confetti cake, yeah.
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Whatever that is, and I was just like what I learned, what I learned today, yeah, this morning, was that the past champion picks up the bill.
00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:46.400
So yeah, I didn't know that.
00:22:46.559 --> 00:22:49.759
I always wondered uh who who picks the bill up, how is it?
00:22:49.839 --> 00:22:52.880
So clearly Bubba just wanted a cheap bill to pick up.
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So he's at tight.
00:22:54.319 --> 00:22:57.839
So uh whereas Macaroy's gone pretty whole hog, hasn't he?
00:22:57.920 --> 00:23:00.079
I still think the best menu was Matsyama's.
00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:01.599
Well, it's unbelievable.
00:23:01.839 --> 00:23:02.880
Matsyama's good.
00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:05.039
I think the Texan menus are always pretty good.
00:23:05.119 --> 00:23:08.640
Um Rom Garcia's were good.
00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:13.359
Um, yeah, that's definitely I I just thought Macaroy's was pretty solid this year, uh to be honest.
00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:16.160
But yeah, his will probably be the most expensive.
00:23:16.240 --> 00:23:20.079
I think Matsyama's was the most expensive to date.
00:23:20.319 --> 00:23:22.559
Yeah, but imagine we've got McElroy.
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Yeah, I think with the wine, McElroy will probably nudge that.
00:23:25.759 --> 00:23:29.599
But uh yeah, Mike Weir said he could have spent over 20 grand on his in back in 04.
00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:32.559
So like I think they're I I do think this though.
00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:40.720
Like, if you're in the field with a chance, like Ram, for example, like how talled up are you getting on a Tuesday night before the Masters?
00:23:40.799 --> 00:23:45.279
Like, that is quite close to uh to game time, isn't it?
00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:49.119
Yeah, I think you're having a couple of glasses, aren't you?
00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:50.880
And you're just leaving it like that.
00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:58.000
Um, there's no Miguel Him and Miguel Angel in there just pop quaffing his Rioca and uh cigars on the side.
00:23:58.160 --> 00:24:05.200
No, obviously, DJ, did you see the video that came out from DJ um today, I believe, again it was um interview.
00:24:05.279 --> 00:24:06.559
He's tweaked his back.
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And they're like, Oh, how have you done it?
00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:10.079
Was it swinging on the range?
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And he was like, No.
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They were like, Oh, oh, was it was it um, you know, picking up the kids?
00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:19.359
And he was like, Yeah, we can call it that if you want.
00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:28.400
Yeah, we'll call it picking up the kids, and made it so obvious that him and Paulina have just been going at it and he's done his back.
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What a great guy.
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Just enjoy it.
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Hey, I'm you know, love love that for him.
00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:40.079
What I don't love for him was the black tie on black shirt look underneath the green jacket.
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Like, I'm sorry.
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I'm actually sorry.
00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:50.640
That is there were some bad shirt tie combinations out there, but like that was by far the worst.
00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:54.640
That was that was criminal and actually should have lost his spot in the Masters for it.
00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:58.160
Uh, the other one that I thought was criminal, and actually he's been mentioned on the pod.
00:24:58.319 --> 00:25:02.000
And if Spith is in with a chance of winning, he should just be DQ'd.
00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:05.279
The purple on purple was also just not open.
00:25:05.599 --> 00:25:07.039
Yeah, yeah, no.
00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:09.440
Anyway, what a week it is.
00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:10.559
Masters week.
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We're here kicking off tomorrow, uh, and I can't wait.
00:25:14.079 --> 00:25:15.200
And hopefully it's a good one.
00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:19.839
Like if it can be even close to the drama of of last year, that'll be unbelievable.
00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:22.799
And obviously, we're crossing fingers, Justin Rowe's winner.
00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:28.160
And if it can't be Justin, Fleetwood will be fine, but um, either or I think.
00:25:28.960 --> 00:25:31.200
Right, we've got some golf to chop up.
00:25:31.359 --> 00:25:39.039
You are just back from the Emerald Isle, and we I want to hear all about it.
00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:49.599
Yes, and um gotta start by saying, as you know, a lot of listeners will know, the golf is just sensational.
00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:51.039
It really, really is.
00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:57.200
The the hospitality that accompanies the golf um is is also phenomenal.
00:25:57.359 --> 00:26:02.160
The Irish, the Irish hospitality, um as good as ever, really fantastic.
00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:06.960
Um, so yeah, I was staying with uh with obviously my girlfriend whose family are in Westport.
00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:11.519
Great, um, great town, very good fun.
00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:16.799
Actually, one of those towns that quite a few stags go to and Hendus and go to because it's really fun.
00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:24.880
There's lots of pubs, lots of, you know, right on the west coast, County Mayo, um, right in the middle of nowhere, really.
00:26:25.039 --> 00:26:29.599
Um flying to Nock Airport, flying to Nock, it's about 45 minutes from there.
00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:31.359
Uh Island West Nock.
00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:40.799
Um, and that is, yeah, you're probably saying you're about two and a half hours to Shannon, which has the US flights into it.
00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:43.680
So you're north of Shannon, you're north of Galway.
00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:55.119
So you're sort of in between where we've coined the the Wild Atlantic Way south and the Wild Atlantic Way North when we think about where we've we've got those loop inspirations on the on the FPG page.
00:26:55.279 --> 00:27:01.359
Um so being in the middle of there, I thought, you know what, I've got to go and try a little bit of both.
00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:07.119
So yeah, managed to clip clip off three different courses.
00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:17.599
Um Carn, Eniscrone, and then um Trump International Island, formerly known as Doombeg, in that order as well.
00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:24.480
So uh I want to start again by saying what just sensational, like really, really good.
00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:43.599
You've obviously got Doombeg is down in the in the southwest, much closer to your trillies, your ballied bunions, right in the mixer with it's not far from a dare, you know, you're right in that camp of tribe-tested known venues that people are travelling for.
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:49.599
Carn and Ennisgrown are right out on a limb, they're on their own.
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:57.279
Um, they as I mentioned, it was it's about it's it's probably a good two and a half, three hours from a dune beg by car.
00:27:57.440 --> 00:28:03.039
Of course, they've all got helicop heli helipads, lots of ability to helicopter around.
00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:04.559
We can sort that.
00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:05.519
Um, what to do?
00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:06.799
Not there yet, are you?
00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:08.480
No, not there yet.
00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:09.680
So I didn't need to be.
00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:10.640
Yeah, I didn't need to be.
00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:13.279
I was based in the middle, so I was popping either side.
00:28:13.440 --> 00:28:42.480
Um right out on a limb, and what that gives it is the that feel of the it's almost that unpolished diamonds, you know, that you get better value, they're it's not as expensive because they're still it's almost like what I would anticipate the Trilise, the Bally Bunions to have been 10-15 years ago, in that there's phenomenal value, but the golf is still just sensational.
00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:46.319
They've just got to entice you in because they're so remote.
00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:50.400
But part of that remoteness is why they are so good.
00:28:50.880 --> 00:29:03.279
If I start at Carn, if I may, and I'm gonna talk in order um with that, and this is a bit of a monologue, but I just want to go on because I can't explain how good that golf course is and how good the golf in general of the three I played was.
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:05.759
You know, I'm just starting looking at my notes of carn.
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:11.200
It's the ninth ranked golf course in Ireland, Republic of Ireland.
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:23.920
Um it has the largest dunes in Europe, and right from the get-go, it's it's three nine holes, so really interesting.
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:27.440
And Fiona was phenomenal there, um, the general manager there.
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:28.079
She was fantastic.
00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:31.599
I want to give her a shout out because the the hospitality there was sensational.
00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:45.200
Told me all about the backstory of uh of Khan, how the Wild Atlantic Dunes course was created, and and they they previously had the um the famous course architects Hackett, something hack it.
00:29:45.359 --> 00:30:02.559
They've got the Hackett course, that's ended up being nine, and they've now got this Wild Atlantic Dunes 18, which every hole you are just rapping through these different dunes, you can't really see other holes, and you've just got these steep banks on the side, you've got views of the sea.
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:15.039
It was and and it got crazy windy, crazy windy, but got a blue sky day, beautiful condition, other than the wind, which you can live with on a Lynx course, right?
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:17.440
I can't recommend it higher.
00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:18.640
I messaged you, didn't I?
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:23.519
I think I was about three holds in, and I was like, holy shit, I think I might have a new top five golf course.
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:24.960
Uh that's how good it was.
00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:27.359
It was it was so good.
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:38.720
So I've not been over to the West Coast, so it's my understanding is yeah, the dunes are much bigger, it feels kind of wilder than it does in Scotland.
00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:39.759
100%.
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:40.720
Yeah.
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:50.240
I would say it's you know, you've got the English links courses that are the flattest, I would say.
00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:54.240
You've then got the courses that I've played, and I haven't been up to Aberdeen, you know.
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:55.839
I've played Dornet further up.
00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:01.839
I haven't been to Aberdeen where it looks like there's some real pretty big dunes and good mount, good good area with there.
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:18.160
But my experience of golf in Ireland, having been on Tralee, having been on Bally Bunyan, and now being on Carl Mennis, going Doom Beg, is that yeah, the dunes are just bigger, the landscape is just more spectacular.
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:21.519
And as a result, the vistas are sensational.
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:31.599
We've said it before, big vista guys, the golf courses are brilliant, the hospitality is fantastic, as I've mentioned, but these courses in particular were a little bit wilder.
00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:33.519
I would say Doom Beg, not so much.
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:41.519
It's a Trump course, it's manicured to perfection, even at the end of March, early April.
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:43.519
Um, they're hosting the Irish Open.
00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:51.680
I'll I'll get onto that uh there, but you can tell that that's a course that's styled slightly differently than the Khan and the Ennis Groans of the world.
00:31:51.759 --> 00:32:05.759
But yeah, a little bit wilder, a little bit more um severe in their drops and slopes and dunes and just an all-round phenomenal experience.
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:07.599
Love it.
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:11.200
Um so Khan, how how far away was the drive for to get to Khan?
00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:17.839
Like, you know, and maybe if you're you're in a a central location coming on a trip, like where how far are you actually having to go to get to Khan?
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:22.400
So from from Nok, I'd imagine it's about an hour and a half.
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:43.119
Um what I having chatted with with the owner there, a lot of um lot the lot of the people that that are going to Carn, and you know, what we're seeing is really it's a you'd play Khan, you'd play Enniscrone, and then you'd probably head north up towards your Narin and Port News, your Rosa Pennas, your Bali Lithings, and you and you'd you'd move it there.
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:55.279
But you're talking a still still a good to carn uh to Enniskrone, sorry, you're probably talking for an hour, call it an hour, but then you're looking at a good two and a half, three hours to then get yourself up to Rosa Penna.
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:57.839
So it's a it's a really good drive.
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:04.079
Um, and and that's why they have it has to be sensational because it is out in the middle of nowhere.
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:08.880
Um as I say, I I can't recommend enough that that the drive is worth it.
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:16.480
Get in the coach, get the heli if you if you're lucky enough to be on the heli uh and just put yourself there because it's so worth it.
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:17.119
Love it.
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:21.119
Alright, so hit us with a bit of a course and a three P's rating.
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:34.400
So I think if I played the course in the summer and it had been in slightly better, like summer conditions, it was still on the edge of winter, they had to have the greens a little bit longer just because of the s the wind.
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:36.880
I mean they they called off the medal on day.
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:40.960
Like it was if they call off a medal there, you know it's humming wind.
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:49.759
Um so I'm gonna give the course a four and a half, but I think it's a 4.7, like just in the four and a half, but like right up there.
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:50.400
I loved it.
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:51.839
I thought it was sensational.
00:33:52.400 --> 00:34:01.519
Um they the Pro Shop, the Pro Shop's cool, it's right under the dunes and it's kind of cut into the hill, so it kind of looks weird.
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:03.759
It's really cool, it's nice in there.
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:08.159
Um great kit, great merch.
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:12.480
I don't love the logo, but I think the logo is it's good.
00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:17.119
We'll get on logos when I get to Ennischrom because wow, that might be the worst logo in golf.
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:21.199
Um, but I like I it's okay.
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:32.079
So the the Pro Shop is is decent enough, and then they've got full grass range, they've got a short game area, they've got an extra nine holes that you can go and play as well, even if you just wanted to warm up.
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:35.679
So I have to say that the four P's are probably a solid four again.
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:40.239
So you're talking a really highly ranked place, hospitality is sensational.
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:52.239
The patio, they've got both indoor and outdoor benches that overlook the um the 18th, the 13th, and the first, and indeed the first of the other nine.
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:59.039
So you can just see the loads, and you can then have dunes, and then it's like fairway cut between the dunes, dunes again.
00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:02.639
It's it's a really impressive setup, it really is nice.
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:06.800
Um, the bar stays open as long as there's people in it.
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:11.519
Like just great things like that, you know, just what you expect when you go into Ireland.
00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:15.119
You want to sit there and drink Guinness, you can sit there and drink Guinness.
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:17.599
You want to go outside and play some more golf?
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:19.519
Crack on, go and enjoy your golf.
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:24.000
You want to go to the local, local bar restaurant, they've got it all set up.
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:25.840
It's just a great place.
00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:26.800
Um I loved it.
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:28.239
I thought it was brilliant.
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:29.599
Amazing.
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:30.559
That made me smile.
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:33.360
We we've got a group out of South Africa at the moment, and they're stuck.
00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:44.639
They were staying in a relatively small kind of boutique hotel in George, and uh they ended up paying a fortune to the hotel, being like, here's some money, keep the bar open until we go to bed.
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:47.519
None of that in Ireland, it just happens.
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:50.400
Yeah, they're happy to just keep taking the money.
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:51.599
Amazing.
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:52.559
All right, as well.
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:54.960
So I mean, Khan's now firmly on my list.
00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:59.119
Like, you've definitely sold me the dream, you sent me some pictures and definitely rolled me up about that.
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:02.559
So that was your opening gambit, really strong start by the sounds of it.
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:05.360
So let's roll into to your second course.
00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:09.679
Yeah, so then I moved to Enniscrone and again want to give Keith a shout-out.
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:12.480
Great bloke, um, really welcoming again.
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:16.719
Um, the whole team there were lovely, and you get a nice little goody bag.
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:32.079
You know, that was that was one you know, you know, when you go to you know we went to the Ailes and we got the nice goodie bag of the course planner and a little memento, and got that in Enniscrone, which was lovely, and you got a little bag tag that's like where it is in Ireland, like really nice, really good.
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:39.199
Um, I've got to start on the logo because I've got to start with the bad stuff, and then I just want to rave about it again because it's sensational.
00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:40.960
But the logo is the worst logo in golf.
00:36:41.119 --> 00:36:44.320
I said might be, it just is, it's horrific.
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:49.840
Um, it is a rainbow over a piece of land.
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:51.920
It's go and look at it.
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:55.519
Please go and look at it, check it out, I'm sure it will be on the front of the video.
00:36:55.760 --> 00:37:03.599
It's it's heinous, it's heinous, and everyone will look at it, and I have absolutely Oh no, I'm not being that.
00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:04.480
Yeah, have a look.
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:05.519
It's it's appalling.
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:13.039
I don't mind here and there, but for me, it's great, it's it looks like a rainbow flag, like an LGBTQ plus sort of thing.
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:17.760
Absolutely fine as a as what you're doing, as a as a movement.
00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:21.119
Doesn't need to be a golf club logo, it's just quite an odd thing to have.
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:21.519
I think so.
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:23.360
I think it's appalling as a logo.
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:27.599
You know, you think about minimalist designs that you want, and it's giving clip art.
00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:29.039
It really is.
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:38.639
It's appalling, and actually, as a result, they had some nice kit in the shop that is just ruined by this clip art on your left chest.
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:40.719
You just like, I can't go near that stuff.
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:43.039
So they gave you a nice bag, but it's got the logo on it.
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:45.440
And I'm like, well, I don't really want the bag, thanks.
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:46.320
It's not nice.
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:48.559
Anyway, enough about that.
00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:50.159
Moving on to the course.
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:55.760
Sorry, I just because you know we we just posted out about logos the other day on Instagram.
00:37:56.079 --> 00:38:01.920
I was trying to think about it, and I think America is way further ahead of the UK in terms of having good logos.
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:14.079
Now, is part of that because a lot of the clubs are newer, and so they come at it with a slightly more refreshing point of view, and they get a designer in and they get it done and they do it properly, and they understand the value of having a good logo.
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:22.159
Maybe some of these golf clubs have just been sat on these logos for 150 years, and so they don't want to update them because it's part of the history.
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:33.440
And so if that is the case, I suppose I'm not gonna let them off, but I at least can understand for certain point of view, like what hand they've been dealt here.
00:38:33.519 --> 00:38:36.000
So it'd be interesting to hit know what the backstory is.
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:42.239
I'm just you know, yeah, like if it is a rubbish logo, but like is it has it always been this rubbish logo?
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:47.199
And so would be changing it just for commercial gain, be actually not really in the spirit.
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:53.119
So I actually because of how bad it was, I had to say to Keith, I was like, what is with your logo?
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:56.239
Like, thanks for having me, but what on earth are you doing?
00:38:56.320 --> 00:38:57.599
Like, it's that bad.
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:05.599
And to be fair to him, he just went, Yeah, um trying to change that for a while, it's just been here forever, can't get by it.
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:08.079
So he knows, he knows, bless him.
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:11.360
That's quite funny, yeah.
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:15.119
Even the GM knows it's not the best.
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:25.119
But when we then get to the golf course and we start talking about what is like worth going to, oh wow, what a golf course.
00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:38.800
I mean, you know, I mentioned Carney's number nine in Ireland, Ennis Crone is number 13 in Ireland, so we're talking two courses that yes might be a little bit off the beaten track on their own, so worth going and taking the time and going to play them.
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:45.519
You know, the the quote that Shane Lowry said, and it's it's on their course power is the best course in Ireland off the beaten track.
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:52.159
And I don't whilst I don't quite agree with him because I do think Khan just just tips it, and that's my personal opinion.
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:56.800
I thought that the golf course at ESCRA was sensational.
00:39:56.880 --> 00:40:27.119
I mean, you start off with this this dog leg right part four with the outer bounds on the left, which is then the range that people don't love in terms of out of bounds, but on the right, and and then it goes sort of dog leg right into a dune that then has an amphitheatre for this path four, and then you go into the second, and you've got part five, sort of snake goes left, goes right, kind of bottlenecks in, so you kind of have to lay to a chute and go up through then third path through, and they're all through these dunes.
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:31.920
So you just start, you just start on this like outrageous set of holes.
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:35.280
You just go, oh my god, this is gonna be a joke.
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:49.039
Now, the reason I don't quite think it's as good as Khan is that Khan had these really um beautiful holes through the dunes throughout throughout the 18 on the main 18.
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:52.880
The other nine slightly less so, but that's not what we're ranking, you know, that's just an added nine.
00:40:53.039 --> 00:41:03.840
And don't get me wrong, Enniscrone also has another uh nine holes that you can play just on the side, and so all of these places you could spend a full day at and really enjoy it if you were going off to be attractive to go there.
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:05.599
It's a full day experience.
00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:15.679
But Enniscrone between the 5th and the 11th goes away from the dunes.
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:26.079
And whilst they're okay holes, there's a there's a couple like five is okay, six is okay, but then you're kind of like seven and eight, you could be anywhere, they're a bit poor.
00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:37.679
Nine and ten, you've got then the sort of the um this the river comes in and you've got a bit of water on your left, and you're kind of on a bay, and it's it's okay, like it's cool enough.
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:45.280
But so you've got six holes really there that aren't as good.
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:49.920
You know, you you've got a third of the golf course is not as good as two-thirds.
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:52.079
So you've got one to four and electric.
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:57.599
Giving like wallacy vibes almost, where you've got exactly yeah, very similar to that.
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:01.440
You've got albeit there's more in the dunes at Enniscrone, and the dunes are bigger.
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:02.719
But yes, exactly that.
00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:06.320
You've got the the drop-off in the holes at Enniscrome was more than Khan.
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:12.079
Like the bad hole at Khan was still like a good hole, whereas the bad hole at Enniscrome was just average.
00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:15.519
But then from 11 in, it's just electric again.
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:17.199
It's just outrageously good.
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:20.960
So you've got you've got 12 holes that just go, wow, this is outrageous.
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:22.320
This is such a good test.
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:35.679
Great combination of tough par five, easy par fives, long par threes, big drop-offs, short par threes, drivable par 4s, tough parts like it's got everything, and they're all cut in between the dunes.
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:39.679
You've got dog leg left, dog leg rights, a couple of straight work, like everything is tested.
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:43.280
It's brilliant, it really is brilliant for for the most part.
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:48.480
I could only say I can only say it's worse than Khan because it's got a few weaker holes.
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:49.280
Nice.
00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:52.480
Alright, well, that's how does it check out on the numbers?
00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:56.239
I'm gonna give it a four and a half, so I know it's gonna come out the same as Khan.
00:42:56.559 --> 00:43:01.119
Look at the end of the day, it's 13th and Ireland, it's still brilliant, and it and it really does warrant a visit.
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:04.559
Where Khan's a 4-7, this is maybe a 4-6, a 4-5-5.
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:10.400
You know, it's it's a ru it's still above the 4-5, but we're talking we're talking halves, don't we?
00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:12.000
So that's where it's at.
00:43:12.239 --> 00:43:16.400
Um in terms of the club, the three P's.
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:19.840
Three P's, I'm gonna give a three.
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:28.079
I've full practice facilities, great practice facilities, um, nice grass range, really good short game area, patio's decent.
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:31.760
But I've actually knocked marks off for the logo, so it's getting a three.
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:40.960
It could have even got two just because of the logo, um, which means that there is it's actually losing points for its Pro Shop, and which is no reflection on the kit in there.
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:45.039
That might be the first time we've ever had that.
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:46.639
Minus points.
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:47.760
Do you know what?
00:43:48.000 --> 00:44:01.039
I mean, there's a world, and we'll we'll we'll take this off pod, but I there there might be a world where we have to start allowing some more decibel point variations because I feel like we spent our whole time being like, it's a four or five, but actually it's a Four seven.
00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:02.320
And do you know what?
00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:06.320
It's our scoring system, we do what we want with it.
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:08.239
So like end off.
00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:09.519
End off.
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:10.639
Love it.
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:14.079
Alright, so four and a half, three, seven and a half.
00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:20.079
But by the sounds of it, from a pure on-course experience, it's right up there alongside Khan.
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:21.760
Absolutely.
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:22.960
It's it's brilliant.
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:25.199
Yeah, it's it really is brilliant.
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:32.639
Worth going to and then I'm I'm almost most interested by how then Doombeg slots in.
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:44.239
Because I I got the gist from you that Khan and Ennis Crone kind of are the same kind of thing while June Irish golf courses.
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:49.599
Now, geographically, obviously Doombeg in a similar spot, but has a Trump influence.
00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:53.440
So really keen to understand how that kind of um shakes out in the resort.
00:44:54.559 --> 00:45:01.679
Yeah, so instantly you go to the, you know, when I stayed on property, and again, what a call-out Marie, sensational.
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:08.079
Um, the hospitality was fantastic, and everything that you want is there at Trump.
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:12.719
You know, it's it's a five-star resort hotel because it is.
00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:25.199
You know, you've got you've got the cottages that are sensational for like groups of guys, groups of whoever, but just rowdiness because it's a slightly bit further away from the main the main hotel building.
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:29.599
It's got its own putting greens down there, all free shuttle service, doesn't matter.
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:36.719
But you can get they've got fire pits, they've got barbecues, you can get people to send out steaks and cook them for you on your barbecues whilst you're putting away.
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:40.159
Like really good, well thought-out setup, right?
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:46.079
You can then go into the courtyard, which is just off the hotel, right next to the hotel.
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:58.159
You don't need a shuttle, like you're right next to the hotel, but really big, sort of like lodges that have like a couple of rooms in them, like full kitchen, lounge, downstairs toilet, you know what I mean?
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:06.079
Like there's like it's like a full little cabin type vibe, similar to what it felt like when went to Bandon and that sort of thing, and that sort of vibe.
00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:14.559
Again, great for like families, great for groups who want to maybe do like four to a room, and you can kind of do that.
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:21.119
And then you've got the suites and those in the actual hotel, which again is a step up once again, and they give you that ocean view.
00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:28.800
And again, you can have four person, four bed suites in the hotel, and that's you, you're in there, and you get the full you get the full treatment in there.
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:34.000
So instantly you come on property and it's just a completely different experience to what you're seeing at Carn and Ennisgrove.
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:35.920
Where where did you find yourself?
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:37.360
Placed up for the night.
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:40.960
Slotted in the courtyard, right in the middle, got a feel for it all.
00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:47.920
Um yeah, didn't need the full family, it wasn't taking a full family, but you know, just it's always nice to have a lounge.
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:51.039
You can just go and sit in the lounge and just take you put your feet up.
00:46:51.280 --> 00:47:02.639
Um yeah, slotted into the into the courtyard, which was was lovely, very close to the breakfast, which is always a good start when I had an early tea time at Doombeg.
00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:04.960
Um Doombeg there.
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:07.840
They've then got a couple of restaurants on site.
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:11.039
So you've got the Trumps Bar and Grill.
00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:15.360
It's got some TV, you know, we've got the sport on, had some of the golf on.
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:22.159
Um I was there Thursday night, Friday night, so we had the golf on, watched some of that, they had some of the rugby on, they had then some of the gay league football on.
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:27.840
So I always all loads loads of that, and typical sort of bar food, really nice, good stuff.
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:31.599
And then they've got the ocean view restaurant, which is sort of their like fine dining.
00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:34.880
Thought the menu was was small.
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:39.760
Well, I wasn't that impressed by that menu, to be fair, and we actually ended up not eating there.
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:42.639
Um that was just a bit of feedback for them.
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:49.199
Um, but beautiful restaurant, really nice, and that's where the breakfast is, which was like all served to you very good.
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:51.840
Great, great like bar in between as well.
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:57.920
That's right in the hub of the clut of the hotel itself, overlooks the 18th green.
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:06.880
You can kind of see the first tea, but right in there, fires are on, TV again if you want, a little bit of quiet, a bit of dim, beautiful.
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:08.320
What was the pricing like?
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:15.519
Because I know Turnbury, like it was it was solid, like Turnbury had you, and you uh you were just settling in for what it was.
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:18.400
Like, was it kind of similar kind of vibe there?
00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:20.800
I actually thought it was really reasonable.
00:48:21.039 --> 00:48:22.559
I genuinely thought it was really reasonable.
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:33.360
And they also have a um free of charge shuttle service that takes you into Doombeg town or village that they and you just call behind any of the bars in Doombeg and they'll come and pick you up.
00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:35.519
They've got a relationship with all the bars in Doombeg.
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:39.119
That's how small a place that little villain village is, which is just fantastic, right?
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:43.280
And the hospitality, you know, the stories go that they've found people 3 a.m.
00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:47.199
that they've been picking up from bars and this and that, and they've got the tea timers the next day.
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:52.079
If you're staying on property, they look after you, and you really feel it there, which which is great.
00:48:52.239 --> 00:49:04.960
So, yeah, what was a very inexperience was like you're staying on property, you you know the the helicopter um travel people, they have a fueling station at Dunebeg.
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:15.039
It's a real hub of being able to then get out and go and play golf elsewhere, um, and they're really keen to do that and be able to host people, and they do it really well as a result.
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:16.239
Nice.
00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:18.719
All right, let's let's get on to this golf course then.
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:20.480
Really interested to hear about it.
00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:27.440
So as a golf course, you're number 10 in Ireland, so it slots right in behind Carn, a few ahead of Ennis Grown.
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:30.000
They've made a lot of changes.
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:34.880
So um one and eighteen have been completely changed.
00:49:35.039 --> 00:50:15.840
In the the first used to be right outside the clubhouse, and you could literally sit in the Trump's bar, watch people tee off, and just give people dogs abuse if you wanted to, and then 18 sort of wrapped around right up the sea and went right up the side of the clubhouse due to um erosion, and then also because there's a crossing on one and eighteen, they've they've changed that so that now one is gonna be further over towards the sea, kicking it off, and then 18 is um gonna be now a part five that starts further back and comes right up to the front of Trump's.
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:23.360
So instead of seeing a t-shot, you're gonna see people finishing in the patio will all look onto the the end of 18, which still still works nicely.
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:30.480
Um as a result of that though, one was shortened and 18 was out of play, so they had a substitute extra tenth.
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:35.440
So still played 18 but missed the 18th hole, it doesn't open until the middle of May.
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:49.679
Now they've done this because of the erosion, and they've also done it, as I said, because they always, when when the Trump family bought the place, they um had always wanted to ensure that the you didn't cross walkway.
00:50:49.840 --> 00:50:54.400
So you to get to the 18th, you have to cross the first, essentially, was what was happening.
00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:55.679
And they didn't want that.
00:50:55.760 --> 00:51:03.679
And now that they've got the Amjun Irish Open in September, they're doing all of these works over this winter so that it beds in and it's ready to go.
00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:13.599
But it it shows the scale of what they can do there in that they've they've literally picked up dunes, pulled them across, and created two fairways with dunes up the middle.
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:15.920
It's really quite cool.
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:25.360
Well, when we had um Josh Simpson Ginger Golf on, he said that when they built the new course at Aberdeen, they were bringing in refrigerated grass.
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:35.440
So like budget is off the charts here, and so uh yeah, it it doesn't surprise me that they can do what sounds like quite a big task quite quickly.
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:36.559
Yeah, absolutely.
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:46.239
And the reason that I said all of that when you asked me where it fits and what I thought of the course is that I had it three out of the three courses.
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:49.599
I had it, I have it going carn, eniscrown, doombeg.
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:59.039
But I have to caveat that with that I haven't seen what are probably the gonna be two signature holes of Doombeg, like in their glory.
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:04.320
And so I want to be fair to that in that it might be completely different.
00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:06.719
It might be one, it might be two, it might still be three, who knows?
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:12.159
But we're talking three really top-tier tracks anyway, even being three is 13th violent.
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:22.960
Okay, so so so to be clear, you're saying that if one and eighteen are both like out of this world golf holes, then the other 16 were good enough where you could make an argument this.
00:52:23.679 --> 00:52:26.559
So we're talking about really fine margins between the three.
00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:28.719
Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:40.000
The thing that the the Trump courses, we saw it at the Ailsa, you know, I've I've not played the the Aberdeen ones, you know, but like all of it's pristine.
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:44.960
It is there isn't a grass like cut out of out of shape, out of way.
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:56.079
Like all of the the paths through the dunes are just perfectly grass, like beautiful grass, cut to the same length, clean, all goes one way.
00:52:56.159 --> 00:53:03.599
You know, all those small things that you don't even realise you notice until you play carn and screen, where it's slightly wilder.
00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:07.840
You get on Trump and you go, wow, this is manicured, like to the tits.
00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:13.440
Are the dunes still kind of as significant at Trump?
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:19.519
Like I feel like you've quite clearly been like, you know, Khan had these massive dunes, and that felt quite consistent.
00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:24.639
Ennis Grown was like dunes for two-thirds, but then maybe came out of them ever so slightly.
00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:29.039
What was for the 16 holes, maybe like what was the vibe for for Dune Back?
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:32.000
Yeah, it's a great question.
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:34.079
Yes, there's there's plenty there are dunes.
00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:39.840
I feel like they're mainly to the left of you, and you play a few holes through them.
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:43.039
And don't get me wrong, there's there's a couple of holes, like the sixth year.
00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:50.480
It felt a bit like abandoned in that you're on the side of the beach, a bit like high up, so the beach is down below you.
00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:53.440
I mean, we're talking like you could jump and you do yourself some damage.
00:53:53.760 --> 00:54:01.519
Um, but then your dunes on the right, and you kind of cut in between the the beach and the dunes, so you're kind of like left of it.
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:04.880
There's a par three, 14 for believe it is.
00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:17.039
I played it as 15, but it's 14 normally, which is like this downhill dunes behind it, some really quite big ones again behind you and around you, down towards the beach and the sea that you can see.
00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:31.519
I would say it's it's it's there are dunes, but they are less in play, and the holes are more cut slightly away from them and in smaller pockets with like a little bit of water here and there.
00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:38.000
Don't get me wrong, there's probably six or seven that impact the holes and they're right up into the dunes and up by the by the coast.
00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:41.760
But yeah, again, we're talking six or seven as opposed to twelve, as opposed to eighteen.
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:46.639
So, like, nice that's why it's less prevalent in that golf course.
00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:48.320
All right, here's with the score.
00:54:48.400 --> 00:54:52.960
Now, obviously, as you mentioned, a bit of a caveat here, first and eighteenth out of play.
00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:57.119
Um, so yeah, pinch of salt, but where are we at?
00:54:57.679 --> 00:55:00.000
I'm gonna give it, I'm gonna I'll give it, I'm gonna give it a four-five.
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:13.199
I am, but again, if we're doing the micro weight ratings, it's a four-three with those holes out of play because I think it slightly changed the tenth, which is a great par five, like right into the corner.
00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:14.000
Didn't see all of that.
00:55:14.400 --> 00:55:15.519
You kind of play a couple of holes.
00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:20.000
So I'm I'll give it a 4-3 so it gets into the 4-5 category.
00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:30.480
As I say, with those two holes in play, I think it goes significantly higher, you know, rather than it being a shortened one and no 18 and you kind of get a random 10 elsewhere.
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:40.639
Um, I'm gonna give it a yeah, a four, a four-five, but much lower rated four-five than the other two at this present moment, just because of they're doing changes and that's how it is.
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:42.000
It's still sensational.
00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:47.840
Um, I think then the three Ps, you've got again full grass range, short game area.
00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:50.719
Um, the Pro Shop is massive.
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:55.280
Um the logo is again, I don't I don't love it.
00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:57.599
It's like at the D with Doombag.
00:55:57.760 --> 00:55:58.960
Um got a lot of things.
00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:04.159
I was gonna ask you what I was gonna I was gonna ask you what the um logo situation is there.
00:56:04.239 --> 00:56:12.079
So Turnbury obviously had the Trump coat of arms with Trump Turnbury as one logo and then the lighthouse as a second logo.
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:13.199
Is it similar?
00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:14.159
I'm looking now.
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:19.599
So it's uh it's it's the flag with the D and the Doombag, and then I assume they have a Trump version as well.
00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:24.400
Is that and you've got the Trump, you've got the Trump coat of arms as well on on some of the bits.
00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:28.239
Um, yeah, exactly, very exactly the same as as what Turnbury was.
00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:32.239
It's got the logo that it had before it got taken over, and then it has the Trump stuff.
00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:36.719
Um, loads of kit, big, big shop, nice enough.
00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:38.639
Don't think it's the best logo again.
00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:41.440
Patio's good, it's a good patio.
00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:55.519
Um, be keen to see what it looks like when it's all finished because I think there's loads of space for them to put tables and chairs out on what was the old Circe T and sort of create an amphitheatre.
00:56:55.599 --> 00:57:01.599
I think what they're planning to do for the Irish Open is have a big amphitheatre around the back of 18 and up one.
00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:03.519
So I think seeing that would be really cool.
00:57:03.679 --> 00:57:07.679
And I appreciate that's not a patio, but I think that will get them thinking about what things could be.
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:11.440
I think the patio at the moment is is it's not quite there.
00:57:11.840 --> 00:57:14.400
They're changing where 18 is, so they're moving all that around.
00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:37.039
So I'm gonna give it I'm gonna give it a three and a half for the three P's, and that's not including then the beautiful hotel and all of that, but I think it's just in a little bit of a um obviously it's redoing its course, and I think if I went this time next year, it would be much, much higher.
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:44.639
And I'm really excited to see it uh in what will be all of its glory in um in the Irish Open later in the year.
00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:46.000
Nice.
00:57:46.159 --> 00:57:48.480
Well, like I said, it sounded like a hell of a good trip.
00:57:48.639 --> 00:58:03.280
I think even though it's very it's quite spread out over that part of the world, the golf experience that you get just seems to be on an almost unrivaled level, I would say.
00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:14.719
Uh I've not done it, but I just I just thought what I'd just ask you to do, maybe not in as much detail as as the ones you've just done, but I know you have also done Bally Bunyan, I know you have also done Traley.
00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:21.199
Maybe just a c a couple of notes on each of those and maybe where your scores are for them as well, just so you give a bit of a more rounded picture.
00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:29.599
Trilli Bally Bunyan, there's a ferry from Doombeg that goes straight to Bally Bunyan as well, and Ballybunion Trilli area.
00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:35.599
So it on the map, you think you've got a three-hour drive, you haven't just get the ferry or get the helicopter.
00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:41.039
Like so much cheaper, uh so much quicker, go runs until eight o'clock, goes to Doombeg.
00:58:41.119 --> 00:58:50.559
So you can really clip off those three courses in a lot um shorter space of time than maybe what the Google Maps or whatever, whatever maps brand you use.
00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:54.239
And we're not Google Cine, it's everything right now.
00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:57.920
Um I got an all-time day at Trelee.
00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:03.519
It was shorts, t-shirt, very little, very little wind, middle of July.
00:59:04.159 --> 00:59:08.960
For me, Trilli is in the top five courses I've ever played.
00:59:09.199 --> 00:59:14.079
Um, I think the closest course that's come to that is Khan in its styling.
00:59:14.239 --> 00:59:20.159
I think Trilli and Khan are very similar in having these really pronounced dunes.
00:59:20.320 --> 00:59:22.559
Obviously, Khan's got the biggest, biggest in Europe.
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:29.199
Um, but I just saw it on a much windier day, was togged up, a little bit colder than and and I played it on my own.
00:59:29.280 --> 00:59:41.039
You've got to remember there's there's those subjective elements of I played them on my own, I've gone out in a one ball, cracked on, whereas round trilogy, you've got a bit of the 2v2 match going and the sun's out, and then a few drinks afterwards and all that sort of vibe.
00:59:41.199 --> 00:59:47.119
So I think I've got a trilli at a five.
00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:51.199
I've got a trillion at like a four, like a four-six.
00:59:51.679 --> 00:59:53.280
Like uh sorry, what am I talking about?
00:59:53.440 --> 00:59:55.199
Like a four-eight, a five.
00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:57.119
If I've got it at a five, yeah.
00:59:57.440 --> 01:00:00.159
It's I it's in my top five, it might even be more than that.
01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:01.280
I think it's brilliant.
01:00:01.599 --> 01:00:13.280
Again, had a great day, played nicely on it, but I think it's very similar to a carn, and it's very similar to a carn in Ennis Grown in its styling, very pronounced tunes, very beautiful.
01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:17.599
Um, and then Bally Bunyan architecturally is I mean it's top 100 in the world golf course.
01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:19.199
You like that's a fact.
01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:25.840
I have it as a five again, but I've got it at like a four, seven, five, like it's just in its five for me.
01:00:26.079 --> 01:00:30.639
Um that's I loved it, I thought it was brilliant.
01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:41.760
Um the way I would rank them would probably be, and you've got to bear with me now, been a few years, I'd probably go Trele, Khan, Bally Bunyan, Enniscreme, Doomberg.
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:42.880
Boom.
01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:43.760
There you go.
01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:46.400
That is the insight everyone wants to hear.
01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:49.199
And by the way, all of them are phenomenal.
01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:54.320
Like Doomberg at five is not like a five, it's like it's not like a fifth course or fifth choice.
01:00:54.400 --> 01:00:57.599
If you end up going there, like if someone will turn around to me and go, that's number one.
01:00:57.679 --> 01:00:59.599
Like they're all that close, they're all sensational.
01:00:59.920 --> 01:01:02.480
Yeah, and and other ones to throw in there.
01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:06.000
Obviously, you've got a dare having the rider cup, slightly different styling, obviously.
01:01:06.159 --> 01:01:18.400
Um, inland course, but Waterville, um, hogsheads, old heads, like I mean, there are a lot of unbelievable looking golf courses.
01:01:18.559 --> 01:01:21.119
I'm absolutely going to have spins to get out there.
01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:27.760
And just from what I was seeing on emails, the hot like you know, they rolled out the red carpet for you, they look like they were so hospitable.
01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:31.679
And I just think that is a good omen for what they probably are like with groups as well.
01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:37.119
So I think if you went over there, you'd just have an unbelievable golfing experience and an unbelievable off-course experience.
01:01:37.199 --> 01:01:43.199
And so it really could be the ultimate golf destination, like it really could.
01:01:43.360 --> 01:01:47.440
I I think you're you're hard pressed um to to find somewhere.
01:01:47.679 --> 01:01:51.280
Maybe it doesn't have quite the history with open championships and stuff like that.
01:01:51.360 --> 01:02:04.480
But I mean, what a spot! Yeah, and you know, anecdotally, just to sort of say as well, just to add, is I played with a couple of American guys um on Doom Beg, great guys, Rob and Ryan.
01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:06.239
Um, shout out to those boys.
01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:11.760
Uh, they were they would they'd been over quite a lot of times in Ireland, quite a lot of times in Scotland.
01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:14.960
Rob had paid played 48 of the top hundred in the world.
01:02:15.039 --> 01:02:17.760
I was like, wow, that's really good going.
01:02:18.320 --> 01:02:30.400
Um, and their their words were, I don't know why you'd all come to the States when you've got all of this golfing phenomenal, like golfing land here.
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And I was like, Yeah, it's fair, it's fair.
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What everything that's a little bit further away just looks a little bit shinier.
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So you just want to always just try something that you've not got to play.
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But it was a really interesting take, and you know, they were saying that you can't beat Lynx Golf in Scotland Islands, they've not the bit of Southport, but but Scotland Island was what we were talking about mainly because of the um the landscapes that we talked about.
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Um, so I just thought that was a nice, nice tidbit to add in there that we all like to find shiny things from afar, but actually we don't realise how good we've got it at home.
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Yeah, no, it's a nice point.
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And you know what?
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Quite a good segue, I think, to uh to a little bullet point I just wanted to talk about before we we head off.
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I watched a video from I think they're called Gulfy City on YouTube, and they'd done an hour YouTube video basically reviewing their stay at Sad Valley, which is where we're going to in the summer.
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And let me tell you, I am frothing at the mouth to get out on that trip.
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Like I am so excited, and like you said, it's it's a it's a big shiny toy over in America, and the the courses just look so varied.
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Now, obviously, with you know, you've gone on this island trip that could have been with eight people, let's say, obviously, wasn't it by myself, but like hypothetically, you have played three golf courses which stylistically are from the same tree, maybe from a different branch, but like the same tree.
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What's so interesting about Sand Valley, what I'm really excited about, is they all look so different, the courses.
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And it was the first kind of video I've really taken in where you've got Mammoth Dunes with the huge dunes, you've got Sand Valley, which seems to be a kind of bit of a blend of everything.
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Sedge Valley is more like your Surrey Heathland, like English Heathland golf course, and then you've got the Lido, which is just really quite an abstract design by the looks of it, and just the on-site cabin, like the whole shebang.
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Like, I haven't done it.
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I know you've done Bandon before, but I'm just so excited about it.
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And and it's just like the little things, like they've got like a taco shop when it's just like one dollar taco.
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So, unlike where you know, I griped a little bit about Turnbury and you're paying 18 pounds for a bree and bacon toasty, San Valley obviously just charge you up front and subsidize the food and then just make it really cheap.
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And and I personally think that's the way to do it because let's all be honest, when you pay a deposit seven months in advance, it's basically free by the time you get there, isn't it?
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And so then when the food's only a dollar, you're just like, oh my goodness, what an unbelievable value this is.
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Little do you know you just paid 15% more than you need to when you booked it in the first place.
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But anyway, I know it's quite a long way away at the moment, but I just wanted to speak about it because I am so excited about it.
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I can't wait to sound value this time.
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It's fast approachable.
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I mean, we're only three months away.
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Yeah, like it's it's not that far away.
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Yeah, it'll soon be with us.
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Um it's gonna be sensational.
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Really excited to play it, really excited to also throw in Aaron Hills there that we've got lined up.
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If if anyone at Whistling Straits is listening, we've been trying to get through.
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In a nightmare.
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Can you sort it, please?
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We're gonna throw that in as well.
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So yeah, there's gonna be some really good comparisons being able to be made.
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I'm really excited to be able to to see how it compares to Bandon.
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Um, because for me that is the ultimate destination, and if they can come anywhere close, then they've done a phenomenal job.
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Uh, don't get me wrong, we've not done the cabo, um A couple of cabo bits and things like that.
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I want to see those.
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Yeah, really excited to see it.
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Really, really excited.
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Yes, excited indeed.
01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:11.360
And then just wanted to leave you with this.
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You mentioned like courses in your top five, and that's obviously a list that's kind of brewing and churning around in Josh's brain on a day-to-day, I'd imagine.
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I think a secondary list, which I'm just trying to form at the moment, is a list of hidden gems, ones that just just you get unexpected unexpectedly good.
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You get taken off guard by the quality of it.
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And I think it deserves its own list.
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And let me tell you, when you were off in Ireland, I went and played a golf course, which was not on any radar whatsoever.
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However, got the invite, and of course I said yes.
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Yeah.
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Headed down to Knoll Park in Sevenoaks last week, which I believe is in the is about 77th in England.
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So it's a ranked golf course on one of these lists out there.
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Worth worth gonna go in and nibbling on.
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Had no expectations whatsoever going down to this golf course.
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And let me tell you, Knoll Park is unbelievable.
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It cost 75 quid on a weekday in April, and I just had an absolutely sensational time.
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The closest thing, I was trying to think of what I could try to compare it.
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So it's it's in this a thousand-acre old deer estate, medieval deer estate.
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They've got this huge estate home building complex.
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Like it's more than just a single building in the middle of it.
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And so, you know, vast amounts of lab.
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They could have four golf courses there, but they've got routing for one.
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Get there, full range.
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You know, you could hit two drivers and not make the end of the range.
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Maybe you couldn't, but I certainly could.
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Short gain area, putting, all the rest of it, and then you tee off.
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And the course just like rolls so beautifully through really actually quite like dramatic land for Kent, which you know, inland Kent, you're not really expecting it to be that crazy.
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And you just got loads of kind of half-pipe tunnels that you're shooting through for par fours, scorable, fun.
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You've got deer running around everywhere, trees kind of lining.
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It was honestly like it was unbelievable.
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It the close thing I compare it to, it was kind of gave a little bit of Hollingwell kind of vibes.
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You know, Hollingwell felt quite wild wild, and the holes really like worked with the land.
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Yeah, and so yeah, it was good, it wasn't quite as gorse and Heathland lined, it was more it was Parkland, but just just a really, really great course, and one of you know, one of the best hidden gems that I've played in a long, long time.
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And so, yeah, not far from London.
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And so, if if you ever get the chance, Null Park is well worth doing.
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Yeah, well, we're gonna have to take that off.
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And I agree with you.
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I think whilst we all talk about what's our top five and the big courses that we all want to tick off, there is something really beautiful about being pleasantly surprised, excited, enjoying a lesser-known hidden gem that's just really looking after itself.
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It's doing the best, and I'm not trying to be patronising here with any of these courses.
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It's doing the best it can with the piece of land it's got, it's in great nick, it's been fun, great welcoming, and they they're doing everything that they they should be doing, and it's a top hundred in in England golf course as a result.
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And I think that that golf is is getting very expensive.
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I think that's that's one of the things that we're all we're all experiencing.
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Finding these hidden gems that are at 75 quid, no one's gonna say it's cheap in the grand schemes of life, but it's cheap in terms of a golf fee, um, which is scary, and I think it's you know it's only going upwards.
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They that it's really pleasant to get those experiences and experience that.
01:10:01.279 --> 01:10:02.479
So I love to hear that.
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Let's keep some segments on top five hidden gems, biggest hidden gem of the year, wherever we're at.
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Let's keep plugging that because they they're the unsung heroes of the golfing world.
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They they are indeed, and and I think we'll we'll leave on this point.
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I really truly believe this.
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If you're in the UK and you want to go play new golf courses, April is the month.
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Weather's turned, conditioning's looking really, really good, and a lot of golf clubs jump up to their summer pricing in May.
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So if you're looking to play new places, go and clip a couple in April.
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It is the month to do it.
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Yeah.
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Ditto.
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Nice.
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All right, mate.
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Well, good to hear.
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Glad you enjoyed Ireland.
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Enjoy the Masters.
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Be interesting to see if any of your picks come off.
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I hope they do for you.
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And uh, as ever, we're full program golf, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, and I will see you, Joshua, in the next one.
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See you soon.
