Queer Horror Chat with Serenity Scarecrow

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Hey, hi, queers and widos, this is your uncle Gary
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and I'm here today with Serenity Scarecrow. Before we get
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to that, I wanted to talk about talk about a
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horror movie we were briefly gonna talk about because I
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just I just saw The Bride and the Maggie Jonehall version,
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and I know that you saw it too, and what
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what did you think of it?
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I thought it was pretty cool.
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I didn't really know much about it when going in
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to watch it. I knew that you and my mom
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were talking about it and things about that.
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And I love the performances.
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I really loved how Christian Bale pulled off the role
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of frankenstun when things like that, and I really like
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how the Bride was done and they made them like
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Bonnie and Clyde.
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I thought that was really cool.
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Well, I don't question, and I really have is did
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you notice that nobody noticed the black stain on her
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most throughout the whole movie?
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That's not true, because you saw the women have the
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black stains on the mouth. And I love the fact
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that the housekeeper had a black stain on her mouth through.
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I forgot about that, But for a lot of the movie.
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I was just nobody has really noticed that.
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And see, those are things it's Dean said about it,
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which I loved, and that he's very much he's like
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a car guy. He's and he's, yeah, he has his
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master's degree on the art side of theater, and so he's, oh,
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he's gonna kill me. But it's set designs. I think
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it was an official master's degree, so he knows that.
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Guy Stephanie Goes, he said about this movie, goes because
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you go from one scene which was like his first
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set in the nineteen twenties, next scene it was like
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set in the nineteen fifties, and he goes, he didn't
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care because it still flowed so beautifully together. Yeah, and
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that's just what he didn't care.
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So like that, That's one thing I find though, if
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you really enjoy a movie and it really captures you
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in the universe, it's saying the storytelling, you may notice
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little things, but you won't really care, right, because that's
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I guess, a very little thing in a way where
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like you could look at other movies when you may
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not notice it the first time you're watching it, but
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then the second time if you visit it and then
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you're just like, wait a minute, like that makes no
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sense at all, and it will be like this massive
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plot hole that someone didn't think of, right, And I
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find if it's a really big thing, then it can
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kind of change a bit of the movie. But I
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think one of the main things that's cool is just
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that monster films in general are just coming back, and
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that's something I think that needs to be done.
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Right now more than ever.
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Really, I think now is the time again for horror,
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because not only does it shock you and all that,
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but I find horror movies have the only real movies
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that will really truly go there and make a statement,
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and they're like totally punk rock and all that about
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it and go, this is it, right, I don't care
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if it pisses you off because you don't like it
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or whatever else or something like that, right, And I
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find it's the monster movies and horror movies that usually
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really make a really big comment on society things that
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go on that other movies are.
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Just too afraid to do it.
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No, that's the true think about the nineteen fifties. We
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have the movies them, we have an invasion of the bodies.
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Those types of movies, they were all. They were all
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talking about communism in one way or another, and they
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could do it. And I know those are more sci fi,
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but there's definitely parts of horror in them.
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Oh yeah, it's a.
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Great way to do it where you're it's a safer
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way for especially creators, especially during that timeframe where we're
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looking at now, to be able to express who they
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are and get across these ideas and people can accept
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them better. And what's more of a popcorn flick. They
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can do that that way.
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That's just it right, and things like that, and I
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think that's a great thing that brought up with the
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timeline and everything.
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I thought that was pretty cool.
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Oh but yeah, no, so I always find that horrors
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genre that again, I guess, is there for the oatcasts
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and less people that feel like they don't belong right.
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It's like you look back at sorry, didn't mean oh no,
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I will say, oh, go ahead, go ahead.
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I was going to say, horror itself is still like
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a dirty genre and there's some people. But I think
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that's one of the things that's still great about it, honestly,
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is that it's not there for everyone.
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It's kind of either you get it or.
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You don't get it, and yeah, it's one of the
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beauties of the genre.
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I funds. Really, I know you're not.
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A huge it's just not where yours your tastes usually go.
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But an early and early from the nineteen thirties. It's
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one of the sequels to Dracula's Daughter Looked and it
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does never say it, but it's very overtly there. Dracula's
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daughter in this one is definitely she's lesbian.
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Cool. I don't know if I've seen that one.
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I do like the nineteen thirty is classic monsters a
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lot and things like that. I've seen certain spin offs,
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but I don't know if I've seen that one, but
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it does sound like something I will have to add
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to my list now.
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Yeah, no, it's again watching it. I watched it within
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the last four years again going oh wow, Yeah, it's
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just right there. There's no way you could deny it.
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And but the way they made it, there's no way
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that they could have really said, oh, you can't do this,
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because they made sure it never was overtly said. But
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definitely she was a lesbian in this there's ways that
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they can get by with that. And you've talked about
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that before. That about how especially within if I remember,
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I came up exactly what you were talking about how
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you phrased it, but especially in the trans community, that
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a lot of the different horror genres have taken on
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a special meaning to the trans community. And I can't
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remember what you said. I'm so sorry, Serenity, but so fine.
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I think I said something about some of us, like
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for myself and for others, it could be like Frankenstein,
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when it's all about having the right body parts and
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like body that makes you comfortable and things like that.
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To I find, in a way, if you look.
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At body horror in a way that can be taken
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in a queer way, I find it's usually those films.
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It's something horrifying happens to the body, which I'm sure
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a lot of people could relate to on different levels.
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To you look at freak shows, how people were just
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different and things like that. They were sold to freak
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shows like that that was the only word they could get.
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And if you look at it now, a lot of
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I think the people that were actually in freak shows
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were just people that like should have been like queer
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just laded the form in a or whatever. Right, Oh yeah,
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that they would make into this whole like I don't
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know Circus Act.
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I always had the connection if he chose with.
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Being trans and not really being able to explain it,
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but just feeling different.
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Things like that.
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Right, So, yeah, that probably doesn't help with what you said,
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but that's what comes off the top of my head
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right now.
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Gary. No, it's even getting back to The Bride itself
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a scene where she wants to basically she says, let's fuck,
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and yeah, he doesn't. He's very uncomfortable and stops her
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from trying to address him that I'm comfort us of
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being in his body because it isn't he's yet he
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still doesn't. What I love about Christian Bale's performance in
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it is he never feels like it's his body. I
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never get that. I love Christian bell and everything.
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He does, and let's to me, I'll make the act.
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And then even Jesse Buckley, who's playing the Bride, I
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know that I loved. She just won Best Actress for
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ham At, which I loved. I heard that certain people
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in your household not thought the movie was boring, but whatever,
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it was just great to see. I literally saw those
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movies like a week away from each other and seeing
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her play such two such diverse characters it watching there's
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gonna be some great things from her. And let's talk
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about Maggie Jillenhall, who directed this. I can't see what
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she does next.
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She.
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I love the fact that she if you look, this
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is only your third movie, and the other two movies
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she did were very much more women in trouble kind
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of things that I'm crazing that wrong. But so it's
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all these things that I can't wait to see what
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her next thing she does is on that level too,
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So it's gonna be all that's gonna be be very interesting.
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I think now it's just a good time for.
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Creators to do what they want and to use their
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voice for the right reason.
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Oh definitely, yes.
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I'm not like, I'll be honest when I come up
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with that idea. I'm not really one to sit there
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like a lot of people and focus on.
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Themes or whatever. Whatever. Themes come out when I do
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will come out. But a lot of the time.
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It's I'll just be thinking of whatever and all school, Oh,
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that'd be cool if you do something like this or whatever,
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and then I might be talking to somebody and then
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it's like they might mention something that's going on in
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the world that pisses me off, or there could just
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be something that I relate to or different things like that,
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and then it's just messed with the idea and just
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goes from there and stuff like that.
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But one thing I'd definitely do try to do in.
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All of my stuff is they have people that actually
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look like myself and stuff like that in my films,
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because I can always remember growing up there wasn't obviously
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if there was a trans person, they never really had
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them in the best role and things like that, famous
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alternative people, and that's something that always really bothered me,
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and I've gotten really tired of this whole It's always
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got to be this straight couple or these white people
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are like these preppy people or whatever. Right, Yeah, I
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think they should be like diversity and things like that,
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and I think that's something that's very important and that's
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actually stating.
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I think we need more of.
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Which is actually a good segue into talking about Ryan Murphy.
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I think one of the critiques of Ryan Murphy. I
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know they obviously probably know I'm more for his horror.
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But yeah, certain things, Yeah, I did watch some of Poe's,
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which I believe he did.
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Oh he did, You're right, and that's actually I that
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was that was really good. He actually did Grotesqueary, which
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if you haven't watched.
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That one, he he did that one too, didn't he.
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Because I watched that one. That was an interesting show.
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That was a show that it was like that show
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that like, I think I wanted to be into because
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of what it sounded like. But when I was watching it,
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I think there were just certain things that I don't know,
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just like it wasn't vibing with me or I just
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found I don't even know how to describe it.
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Gary, Yeah, it was. Remember I wanted to like that show,
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I think, And I think.
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That's how most people. He's a very he's a dichotomy
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of a bunch of different things where he Yeah, I
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love the fact that he gives some great things too.
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He gives some great things to some great especially to women.
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He's a really big proponent of giving some strong material
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to women.
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Yeah, I know the female roles.
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I like an example, like when I've seen American horror
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story is always really good. I do get with what
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you mean, though, of certain things I have seen by him,
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that he does do a lot of what you said
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that the white Male experience, but I think I have
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seen I don't know if you watched it.
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They did. It's like a.
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Spin off of American Horror Story called American Horror Stories
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where they did like this anthology kind of thing instead.
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And I didn't because Okay, I will say that I
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watched the first season of American Horror Stories. I'll tried
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to watch the second season and then I was done.
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So yeah, no, I can get that because I watched
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the first American Horror Story when it came out, and
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I really enjoyed it and thought it was like really
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well done and captured you in and a lot of
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cool different things just in the show itself that I
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found weren't really done before.
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thinking like, oh, this should be really cool. This is
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probably gonna be like really narrowly I'm thinking, right, And
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then yeah, I get what you mean. It wasn't really
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that great. It's like the third season with The Freak Show.
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I loved how Ryan Murphy did created the character Twisty
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the Cloud, Yeah, and I love how John Carroll Lynch
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played Twisty the clown, and how great that role and
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character was itself. I felt the rest of The Freak
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that was the fourth season and then Covin Night maybe
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was the third that I thought was really well done
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with what you said about the roles for women and
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things like that, And yes, I tried.
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To watch I tried to watch that, and I tried
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to go back a couple of times and try to
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watch a couple of episodes, just none of them and
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I did. I enjoyed the first season, I really did,
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and then none of them have held up to me.
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But you know, that's a great thing. He's done so
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many different things. I've enjoyed other things he's done, so
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it's not.
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Have you ever watched Hotel of American hornor Story season five? No,
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that's probably my favorite season in the Hotel.
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I'd actually has Lady Gaga in it. Okay, that one.
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I don't like Lady Gaga.
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Oh that's fine, the bad gay, I know, no, it's fine.
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it was a cool season because of the different things
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that they did, because where he based it off of
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HH Holmes Hotel. Then you have ghosts and vampires and
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just people working in the hotel that are sacrificing people.
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And this killer based off the Seven Deadly Sins, like
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a seven type killer.
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Right, So that season had.
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main season. I will go back and rewatch for some reason, may.
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Try that one. I don't know, we'll see you, but because.
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Like there were other seasons, I definitely didn't think where.
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The coolest concept. I guess we'll say, well, I won't lie.
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Every time I.
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Do kind of hear there's a new American horror story,
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I usually do watch it. I did not watch the
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one with Kim Kardashian because I do not Kim Kardashian.
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But yeah, I was gonna find out if you'd watched
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that series that she was just him called All's Fairer.
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So I was just curious about that or not he
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wrote and produced on that one.
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I think the next thing I was about to watch
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that he did is what is it? I believe it's
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just a show called beauty that he did on Beauty.
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I think it's called oh beauty.
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Oh no, yeah, that's what I want to see too.
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I've actually seen. What I do enjoy about Ryan Murphy
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is he's very, first of all, very openly if you
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look back, he's always been very openly gay. So it's
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not that's not yes, no, yeah, beauty is what I
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wanted to see, And actually I watched He created and
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wrote a lot of the episodes of Nip Tuck, which
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is before your Time.
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But I heard of that show. If I'm correct, it's
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about plastic surgery.
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Right it is, And I started rewatching rewatching some of
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it to get ready for this podcast, and I enjoyed it,
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and I go, yeah, this is definitely Ryan Murphy. You
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see that it's it's him, and there's at one point
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there's a trans storyline, and I kind of want I
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was wanting to watch that again to see because I'm
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afraid it's very cringey now because it's that the trans
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person is played by woman, so that it's me that
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that does it.
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I do feel like probably around when that show is
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made that they probably weren't actually sadly casting actual trans people.
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I don't know, but there was a.
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Couple of there they weren't. They were not. There were
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a couple out there but there was very few and
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far between, and not for.
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That's what I would imagine. I think.
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I know when I was growing up, I don't even
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think trans was really understood then.
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It's not understood now.
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Definitely not, But when that's something that I think definitely
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needs a lot more work in itself, and I definitely
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think that there should be like better trans roles created
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because there's very few I find actual good trands roles
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created in film and TV and stuff like that.
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There was a on it was on ABC, so I
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don't I didn't and again I don't know how Canada
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relates to that, so it's there is We had a
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we have a but this is years and this was
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year ago, but and it only lasted a season, maybe
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a season and a half. But a show called Dirty
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Sexy Money. And on that show they had a transactress
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and her name is Candy. I cannot remember her last name,
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and she's still very active now. And she got a
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love story with one of the Baldwin brothers. I can't
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remember her name. And they actually they did they actually
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you saw them kissing and everything, and that was very
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friends there from I think from the very first episodes,
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that was very very groundbreaking, and it was a soap
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opry one they and that was very groundbreaking at the time.
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I remember that, so I my mind just went to,
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oh yeah, it was just a big thing and what
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it was actually great about it? If I remember the time,
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it made headlines more more because people would ask I
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think it was Stephen Baldwin. I think that's the Baldwin brother.
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They would ask him, how do you feel? How do
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you feel kissing this transactress? And he just goes, He goes,
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She's amazing. Why wouldn't I left kissing her? It was
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great how he just said basically, fuck you anyway, Sorry.
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Let's That's one of the great things about talking and
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all that is you can stet out with one thing,
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but go else to something cool.
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The great thing about Ryan Murphy is, I will say
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that is that there are enough Just looking at a
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couple of things he's done in the last couple of years.
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He did a Sitcumfort who called mid Century Modern, which
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I loved and it only lasted for one season. It
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was about three day Men. He also did He's Dead Monster,
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which has been on for three seasons now. I watched
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two of the seasons.
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So I think I tried to watch the one about
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ed Gean.
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Oh, I couldn't get through that one. That was the
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one I couldn't do. That's too much for me.
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And what it was is I think for me, what
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it was made to what made me uncomfortable was all
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the Nazi stuff.
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I just couldn't like, I couldn't do that.
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And I just think, just what was it like some
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of the weird sexual things they were showing.
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Ed Gean was doing. Yeah, it was like, I can't
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do this.
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I won't lie, I'll I'll say very quick, is if
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certain things about horror you do know that a lot
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is based off of ed Gean from Psycho from Texas,
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Chainsaw Massacre. Oh, He's totally based off of that, right,
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but just then taking like the messed up redneck, abusive
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family and adding that to it, which again really wouldn't
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be that different from ed Gean when I think about it.
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And then Silence of the Lambs is also based off of.
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Him in a way, right, Oh, A lot of.
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Things are there's a step removed we're watching now. Just
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it was I don't know why I agree with you,
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it's just too much. The two were fastating fat I
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wouldn't call them fun, but there was a difference there.
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If the second one was the one.
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I think the second season was that about the brothers
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that killed their parents. Yeah, so I tried watching that
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some of that, but I couldn't again do it because
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of like their sexual abuse and things.
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I couldn't do that.
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So it's I thought I might have been able to
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do the ed Green one because I was thinking, like
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from my horror movie creator director writers side, we'll say, right,
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as messed up as this sounds, I'm going, oh, might
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get some good ideas from this, right, might learn something whatever.
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And I'm sitting here and I'm doing it, and I'm
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starting it off, and I'm like, Okay, this isn't too bad.
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And you got Charlie Huntman as like Edyeen and stuff
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like that. I really like him, and Sons Vanarchy and
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other things, and I'm going I.
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Was in the original Queer as Folk too.
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Okay, but I was going on, I was thinking that
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would have been the monster that I could get through.
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We'll say, yeah what Yeah no.
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And That's the thing that I've learned with myself is
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I love slasher films and I love things like Saw
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and Hostile and body horror and things like that. But
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I don't like actual real life violence. I don't like
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watching stuff about serial killers really or stuff like that.
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Right.
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Oh okay, so I get it. Yeah, I can't watch
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this is gonna You're gonna go what Garry. I can't
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watch a Law and Order su at all. I can't
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watch that show. But I can watch Criminal Minds. Figure out.
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I get that. I honestly get that.
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I actually did watch Criminal Minds not too long ago, actually,
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and I actually enjoyed it for the most part. I
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think there were almost certain episodes I was kind of like,
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I this is kind of eh, but but overall I
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did find Criminal Minds a good show. But I do
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like how you made that comparison, because what I think
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it is, at least for myself, is I think I
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end up thinking about what those people went through and
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things like that in real life, and when it's Freddy
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Krueger or Michael Myers or Jason that's completely different.
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Right.
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Oh yeah, And that's one of the things I think
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I was like, just about certain styles of horror was
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just and I think that's nothing that Ryan Murphy achieved
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in the American horror story spin off was Whitney in thoughtology.
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I kind of find he went with different people and
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different walks of life and stuff more than that one,
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and it was more diverse. But the horror was all
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very different, right, Yeah, you were going from creature feature
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kind of stuff to some body horror, to some slasher,
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to some demonic possession to some more psychological, right.
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And I thought that was cool.
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I was like, Okay, now he's really having fun with it,
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is what I kind of thought.
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Right, Maybe some.
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Of these are ideas he had for maybe different TV shows,
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different episodes that maybe people said to him went right
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for that, And I think.
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Why not make an anthology? You know what I mean?
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Oh No, And I think that makes sense for him
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because I think he works better. I really do think
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that Ryan Murphy, if he's the one doing the truth
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creating of it, I think his stuff works much better
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in a couple of episodes contained episodes. I loved his
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American American crime stories. He did the People Versus O. J. Simpson,
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that mini series he did that was amazing. So I
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was gonna ask you have you seen much of his stuff?
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Have you watched Glee? Or he originally years ago? Do
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the series called popular. Have you watched any of these
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that are He wrote the screenplay for E Pray Love?
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Have you watched any of these that aren't his hord genre.
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I think I've seen a bit.
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I think I might have seen it Pray Love when
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I was younger.
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I just I'm curious.
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An episode to two of Glee.
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But then I think I heard that one of the
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actors did some messed up stuff, so I wasn't really
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I guess comfortable. So I guess I'm just that type
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of parison sadly if I find I know somebody's done
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something messed up and just like I don't really care
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how great of whatever you wear, and sadly that can
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ruin the whole thing. I did really enjoy how he
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did pose. I will say that because I started watching that,
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I think really around when I first came out honestly
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as being trans and things like that, and now is obviously.
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Being a half.
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Years ago close to that, probably now because I've almost
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been on HTI.
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For three years. It will be in.
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October, so yeah, like before my body changed and things
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like that. I definitely did fun watching that show empowering,
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and I think it was really after I watched that,
490
00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:02.680
I went back instead of watching more of the American
491
00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:05.319
Horror Story and stuff because.
492
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:07.920
I heard he did that. Now. I did always like
493
00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:11.079
how throughout all.
494
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:15.400
The seasons of American Horror Story there is always some
495
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:16.440
sort of queerness.
496
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:19.799
We'll say, oh yeah, whether.
497
00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:25.640
There's usually either a gay couple or gay or lesbians
498
00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:30.079
or trans people just hooking up and things like that
499
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:35.440
or whatever, or just as different queer characters throughout the show.
500
00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:39.359
That is one thing that I have always loved and
501
00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:45.519
I thought was really cool to see and show people
502
00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:51.880
that you kind of find that again, like being queer, LGBT,
503
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:55.279
whatever you want to call it has always been like
504
00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:01.519
a big part of horror really, whether people people realized
505
00:30:01.559 --> 00:30:05.000
it or not. So I always thought it was cool
506
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:11.319
how he always had that and how he brought like
507
00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:18.759
certain real life things into certain things he created. Yeah,
508
00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:22.319
I definitely thought that was cool for sure. And I
509
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:28.559
do know he has created a lot and always say
510
00:30:28.599 --> 00:30:33.400
it's always been like a prominent queer creator and things
511
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:38.079
like that, And I guess really showed people that it
512
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:42.440
doesn't matter what your sexuality is, because that was something
513
00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:46.839
I always thought was stupid. It is like somebody could
514
00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:49.640
like someone one minute, and then they find out they're
515
00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:52.559
gay or lesbian or trance, and then it's like, oh no,
516
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:56.839
they don't like them anymore, right. It is something stupid
517
00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:01.000
like that. And that's something I guess I've just never
518
00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:06.519
really understood. If you like someone's I singing or whatever
519
00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:10.119
they do, then you should just like that. It shouldn't
520
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:13.960
matter who they love or what they look like or whatever.
521
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:18.440
You know, he did. He and actually, and I was,
522
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:21.759
as you're talking, I remember, I don't think there's any
523
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:26.160
show he's done where there hasn't been a fairly prominent
524
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:29.559
queer character. I don't think there was one in the
525
00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:32.000
OJ one because I don't think that there.
526
00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:34.799
Was no I think that I think the crime thing
527
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:38.119
he did that may be the only thing that might
528
00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:38.640
not have.
529
00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:41.000
Yeah, I would agree with.
530
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:44.599
Something like that because I believe when it came to
531
00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:47.200
the crime thing, he tried to make that as accurate
532
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:53.160
as it was. I guess that's what everyone does, but monster,
533
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:55.799
he I think he does it a little bit too much.
534
00:31:56.519 --> 00:31:57.240
I will see.
535
00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:00.559
And I heard that even from a gig critic, but
536
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:02.759
I showed that I didn't even know if the it's
537
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:05.319
able to even stream it or not, I mean only
538
00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:10.279
lasted one season called The New Normal. He created it
539
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:14.000
and wrote I think most of the episodes, and it's
540
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:19.799
from the early two thousands of from twenty twelve. It is.
541
00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:23.599
It should have gotten more. It should have gotten it
542
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:26.920
should have gotten a longer run. It was. It's about
543
00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:30.240
a gay couple who adopt a kid, and it was
544
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:35.680
a very funny but a very real show. And it's
545
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:38.279
something I hope he's very proud of it, because I
546
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:40.160
thought for sure he was gonna get renewed for another
547
00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:43.880
season and didn't. And it's too bad. But no, I'm
548
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.279
trying to think of I'm just looking through his on
549
00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:49.200
IMBD the stuff I've seen of his because I've seen
550
00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:52.440
a lot of his things that aren't that, that aren't
551
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:57.079
the horror side of things. Oh and it's funny. That's
552
00:32:57.079 --> 00:32:58.559
why I talk to you because a lot I've seen
553
00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:00.720
a lot of the things that aren't on the horror though,
554
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:03.880
Like I said, and I really do overall like and stuff.
555
00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:05.880
I do find that when it's more of a contained
556
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:08.799
I think he does a better job. One of them
557
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:11.480
that I loved that was on the horror side, which
558
00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:15.440
a lot of critics hated, did you ever watch Ratchet.
559
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:18.599
I think I might have seen an episode or two.
560
00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:20.519
Was that the one with the nurse?
561
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:23.559
Yes, and then it's based off that. It was like
562
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:26.960
a sped off of wind flow of the Cucka's nest, And.
563
00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:29.880
Yeah, I have to That's what popped in my head
564
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:33.200
when you said that. I think I watched an episode
565
00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:37.680
or two. And if the first season of Monster was
566
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:41.039
the one on Dahmer, I think I watched an episode
567
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:41.799
or two of that.
568
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:44.519
Oh yeah, I don't know what it is.
569
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:49.839
I love cannibalism, horror movies and things like that, and
570
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:52.519
I've come up with ideas of my own and things
571
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:57.640
like that. But I think it's certain things that Jeffrey
572
00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:00.759
Dahmer said that we just, I don't know, too weird
573
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:04.160
or just he made it too real, and certain things
574
00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:07.559
like that him saying he doesn't like people with tattoos
575
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:11.079
because they taste funny. So I at least know, like
576
00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:14.440
where I have tattoos, cannibals, you won't like me.
577
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:20.760
It's that it was watching the Dahmer one. Was there
578
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:22.719
are a couple of times I had more than a
579
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:24.480
couple times I had to look away, But a lot
580
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:26.840
of it was just because the actors they did such an
581
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:29.719
amazing job. That's like, okay, I cannot watch that.
582
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:33.280
Yeah, no, And that's what I think it it was,
583
00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:38.039
and just like how they captured I guess, just how
584
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:42.519
messed up I guess Jeffrey Dahmer really just as a
585
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:47.960
person yea, and things like that, and just I think
586
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:51.199
it's more thinking that this dude just worked at this
587
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:57.800
chocolate factory and liked McDonald's, like when he wasn't eating people. Yeah,
588
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:02.519
just like but then I think I also think of Okay,
589
00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:05.760
so buddy lives in an ampartment building and he has
590
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:08.599
this fridge full of human body parts, and you're telling
591
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:10.239
me nobody's smelling that.
592
00:35:11.559 --> 00:35:19.840
If you actually watch, if you watch that series, that's
593
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:23.039
not the truth either. You find out someself. So it's
594
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:26.280
like there were people who did smell it, and the
595
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:28.840
cops ignored it because of the area Tana was in
596
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:34.039
and oh really yeah so it was there's it was okay.
597
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:37.000
Really, I think I only seen.
598
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:40.920
Certain bits of it, and I think it's I think
599
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:43.320
part of me goes, am I a weird person?
600
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:45.280
If I watched this? You know what I mean?
601
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:47.119
No?
602
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:50.480
And it was very much And again that whole story,
603
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:52.400
a lot of it. It went on for long. It
604
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:57.840
dud because first of all, it was the people that
605
00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:03.719
ended up being missing were poor, usually people that were gay.
606
00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:05.480
That's what I was gonna say.
607
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:08.880
He usually targeted people that were gay, because wasn't it
608
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:11.119
he didn't like being gay himself.
609
00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:15.119
Yeah, and so all these things, so it really the police,
610
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:17.519
it was all and the police really could have cared less.
611
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:20.719
And then were he Yeah, it's very poor area, a
612
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:23.440
lot of people have there, So all these things made
613
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:24.840
that the police didn't care.
614
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:31.840
And when you tell me that, because as we all know,
615
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:34.719
I'm never just one to say judge a book by
616
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:39.119
the cover, but when it comes to Jeffrey Domeny, you
617
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:42.480
can't tell me that some people weren't going that guy's
618
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:43.079
not right.
619
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:46.400
Oh yeah, Because.
620
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:49.760
That's one thing that I do remember from that is
621
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:51.880
I think a lot of that. That's the main thing
622
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:54.679
that a lot of people always said that actually knew him,
623
00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:57.719
was like you just knew there was something off about
624
00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:00.599
the guy, and it was just like already then I.
625
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:04.000
Would I'd also recommend because that Ryan Murphy thing is fascinating,
626
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:07.159
but it's not a real It doesn't really tell all
627
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:10.760
the truths. I mean, there's some really I there's some
628
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:14.079
really good crime podcasts out there that talk about it.
629
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:17.960
I wouldn't recommend watching a documentary because you get pictures
630
00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:20.840
you may not want, but listening to a podcast might
631
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:22.199
be a better way to go about that.
632
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:26.039
Yeah, no, No, I definitely do get that.
633
00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:30.880
It's it's always interesting how certain things are done. But
634
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:35.000
one thing I will say is that Ryan Murphy himself
635
00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:39.280
is a very vivid creator and storyteller, and that is
636
00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:41.599
something that I can totally appreciate.
637
00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:45.920
Right, Okay, so this is where I do. I agree
638
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:49.840
to you to to agree. But what I don't like
639
00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:52.320
about what he does. This is the thing that you know,
640
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:55.880
and grant he's a he's a multi millionaire, so this
641
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:59.039
is he's done great with it. I don't like how
642
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:02.159
Jeffrey Homer stuff. This is a good example of it
643
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:09.639
where he has stretched the truth or not totally. And
644
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:11.599
if he's gonna do that's fine, but make sure to
645
00:38:11.719 --> 00:38:15.679
say that don't visit story. Make sure they know it's
646
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:16.920
a visit story. Don't.
647
00:38:18.079 --> 00:38:21.079
Yeah no, Now that you say that, with him stretching
648
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:25.280
the truth, it does kind of make me go back
649
00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:28.559
to things that I watched of Ed Dean and all that.
650
00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:31.599
Right, Oh, and there was he he did some. He yeah,
651
00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:32.039
he did some.
652
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:36.079
That's what I felt in that is there was a
653
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:40.840
lot of truth stretching. I guess we'll say, because I'm
654
00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:44.199
thinking when I watched that, I'm going, I'm pretty sure
655
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:49.119
I've watched the documentary on Ed Dean before and things
656
00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:53.599
like that, and I've seen shows what he's mentioned, and
657
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:57.760
I know a fair amount about what he's done. We'll
658
00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:00.559
just stay with being a horror creator and him firing
659
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:05.400
so much. And one thing that I don't know, maybe
660
00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:08.480
I missed it and I could have. But one thing
661
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:13.079
that I don't really remember any of them mentioning in
662
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:17.880
any of that was him loving the Nazis or things
663
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:18.400
like that.
664
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:22.719
Right. I know he liked really messed up images and
665
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:28.320
things like that, but I don't know. I don't know.
666
00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:30.840
If you remember The Pirate where it's like they show
667
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:33.760
ed Gan, he's like in the field and I think
668
00:39:33.800 --> 00:39:36.679
he's on the tractor or whatever, and then it's like
669
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:41.599
he starts seeing these prisoners of war running across his
670
00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:46.039
field and stuff. No, and then he's running into his
671
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:50.280
house because he's thinking all these people from the Holocaust
672
00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:54.280
or whatever, banging on his windows and things like that.
673
00:39:55.880 --> 00:39:59.519
And what I also found was, now that you bring
674
00:39:59.559 --> 00:39:59.800
it up.
675
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:06.079
In that show, they made Edging seem like this total
676
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:08.800
wido and things like that, like this person no one.
677
00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:11.880
Would talk to. Right, Yeah, what if I.
678
00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:16.760
Remember correctly, the man was liked because he was a babysitter.
679
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:19.360
And that's just it. And you're right on that because
680
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:21.239
I remember that. I haven't looked at him a lot,
681
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:23.559
but that's one of the things I know is the truth.
682
00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:26.760
So he was fairly abady. He was a well liked person.
683
00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:27.880
So that's why he was able to do a lot
684
00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:29.960
of the shit he did because a just thought.
685
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:32.360
He was Yeah, I do know that he did live
686
00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:34.880
on a farm and he did have a college and
687
00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:37.920
then he did all the stuff like making the skin
688
00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:42.199
suitor furniture and everything like that where they did everything
689
00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:44.119
with the horror movies. But now that you do bring
690
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:47.199
up that truth stretching, it's like I had this thing
691
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:49.199
in my brain when I was going, wait a minute here,
692
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:51.760
So I like that you brought that up.
693
00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:54.519
Gary, That's a very good point, and I'm.
694
00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:57.239
I love this stuff, but.
695
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:02.320
To that, but I do think what you're saying, yeah,
696
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:08.480
there should be like a disclaimer, because I think when
697
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:12.000
a lot of people are probably watching that show in
698
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:17.360
particular where it's based off these last stuff people or whatever, right,
699
00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:20.199
a lot of people are probably want to think that's
700
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:21.159
all factual.
701
00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:23.880
So one of the things that gets me, and this
702
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:27.880
is again another filmmaker who I love his stuff. I
703
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:30.840
love his stuff is oh, my god, the name just
704
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:36.599
went on my head. Glorious Bastards guy. Uh yeah, I'm thinking,
705
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:41.599
give me one second here, that my God, in my
706
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:43.880
mind just blanked on who he is. I would just.
707
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:46.599
Yeah, and that's it.
708
00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:51.119
So one thing I'll say is like, when it comes
709
00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:55.000
to Quentin Tarantino, I used to like.
710
00:41:56.519 --> 00:41:57.760
His style.
711
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:04.719
A filmmaker, and I guess as a filmmaker I did
712
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:09.599
certain things. Obviously he did all that until I found
713
00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:12.679
out what a horrible personal he was, right.
714
00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:15.519
And now he is. He's done some terrible things. But
715
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:19.559
just even so with my mind Goes and Glorious Bastards,
716
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:23.320
which he's did a revisionist history and did that with
717
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:26.239
Hollywood Land, two movies I love for read the moment.
718
00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:30.480
Try to keep the two things separate, but people now
719
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:34.599
believe what he said in those movies, is the truth
720
00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:37.679
that those things happened that way, and that's.
721
00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:42.719
That that is a problem that does happen.
722
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:46.800
I find him filmmaking quite a bit honestly now, that
723
00:42:48.119 --> 00:42:53.880
is and I think that's a very clear thing why
724
00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:56.960
it should always state at the beginning.
725
00:42:56.599 --> 00:42:57.880
Of a film.
726
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:04.199
Based on true events, yes, some true events. Now, what
727
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.360
I will say right quick, if you do want to
728
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:10.320
know a film that I do love that was based
729
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:14.519
on true events and I find still holds up to
730
00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:17.679
this day is The Original Strangers.
731
00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:19.360
I think that's a great movie.
732
00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:21.719
No, they did that.
733
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I can remember when that came out, and just the
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trailer gave you chills.
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And things like that, and it's a.
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Movie that I don't know if I told you this,
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but every now and then I watch it every couple
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of years just to see if it will still make
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me feel like when I first watched it, and I
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think until the last time I watched it, even up
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until the last last time I watched it, it still
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did because, like you say, it's a great movie and
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the way they did it of it just being so
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simple and I think one of the best things ever
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and from a terrifying horror perspective is when they go
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why are you doing this and one of the strangers
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just goes, yes.
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You were home. Yeah, you know, and the way it ends.
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You want to talk about a horror movie that has
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a good ending that holds up you completely go today
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you just see those two lyrich kids or whatever walking
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and they go in and find the massacre, right Like.
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That's because an ending of a film definitely is an
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important parati I find. And that's something else that I
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just think people need to work better on, honestly, if
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I'm honest, is endings just in general, no matter what
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the genre, I find a lot of the times the
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endings to a lot of stuff just, let's be honest,
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aren't that great?
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I agree? And as I think it's we're getting ready
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to actually end this podcast day. One of the when
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I find fascinating without Rhyan Murphy, it was that when
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you look at his filmography, he said everything from he
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did Doctor Odyssey, which was complete fluff and I enjoyed
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everyone with a Doctor Rosity. It was just it was
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complete fun. Two he did he did a season of
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about Jeffrey Dahmer, So you got to give him a
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lot of credit. He's done and all the stuff in.
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Between, definitely, and that that's a hard thing to pull
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off because a lot of people probably don't know this,
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but when you're starting out or whatever things like that,
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it's definitely best to stick to one, to have mastered
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one genre instead of none. But even when you've kind
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of done that and when you get some stuff made,
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I do find when it created wants to go from
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the same myself. I do horror and all that, obviously
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as anyone else, but say if I wanted to do
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something different, people might not.
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People might be kiffy, right because.
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It's a completely different genre things like that, because not
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everyone can do that. So the fact that Ryan Murphy's
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been able to go from doing crime shows to film
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and TV just both that alone is quite impressive, having
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like a career in both and creating. But I don't
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know if I know someone that has just also created
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so many series and things like.
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That right now and.
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Really got exactly and explore these different kind of genre
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bending film style bending techniques right which I do think.
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Is really cool.
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And I do like how he's always bended genres because
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even if he's doing horror, he still has drama and
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romans and things like that. And when he does the
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horror it's really well done to when he does drama,
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there's elements of action, comedy or other things I've noticed,
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and I think that's very cool thing to be able
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to do, and it's very impressive overall.
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You got to consider it right now. He's got what
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he's got Monster, He's got the Love Story, He's got
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Love Story, which is an ongoing series of ones. He's
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got Feud, He's got the then the American Horror Story's franchise.
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There's a lot, and then there's other things that I
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think certain projects that still only have one season may
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end up getting more. And sometimes I think he just
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likes to take his time and bounce around from things
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so he doesn't get burnt out.
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Is are you supposed to be a series? Is that
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going to be coming back? Or is that was just
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a one off thing? Do you know what was it,
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Sorry Beauty that you said you better ready to watch?
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Is that a one off? Or is that gonna be
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not store?
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I believe I think it's gonna be a series, but
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like when I go back, I can't remember it was
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grotesque just a one off?
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Or rather doing more of that.
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It was supposed to be. It was supposed to be
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another season that it's never been reviewed, So I don't
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the way I saw it weird, I don't.
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That's I think I've seen the ending, but I can't remember.
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Yeah, yeah, it was. The last two episodes were such
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a weird.
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I believe Beauty is supposed to be an actual series,
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but I think from correct that just came out.
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I think like a couple of months ago.
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And yeah, it so it's one that I do need
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to watch. I actually have it on my cue. But
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I have to watch that when Dean's not around because
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he can't handle that kind of stuff. He just can't.
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Oh yeah, he's not. We have very different We have
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some things that we watch together, but there's other stuff
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that there's no way he can watch that I watch.
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No, No, I totally get that. There's certain things that
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all enjoy, but my friends or people I've dated.
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To, my mom or whatever, not.
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Everyone loves all the types of horror films I watch.
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Right yeah, what I will say right quick, If you
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do want to watch a horror movie where the tight,
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the horrifying character of the film is played by a transperson,
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then go to the movie dolly.
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Okay, I haven't all right, I will email me that
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or I will forget. Please email me.
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That, all right, I'll I'll send you the added the trailer.
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It was one of the honestly first few move New
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Moon movies that have come out that I've went like,
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this looks intense, this looks it might actually even shocked
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me or whatever, things like that, which I don't really
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say with a lot of films, right, And I was
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really impressed with that movie overall, and I did really
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enjoy it.
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Hey, that says a lot to me. So I like that.
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And I think, on that note, I think we should
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end this at this time. And I think that since
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Ryan Murphy's I think he's pretty successful, I think we
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can both just say thank you for giving us a
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wonderful quid representation. I don't think we have to get
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much more into that.
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Yeah, he's done an excellent job of speak representation exactly.
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And Sorendy, thank you for on here. And do you
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want to gain say this where you like if you
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want people to follow you or not?
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Oh sure, If you want to follow me on Instagram,
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then you can either just type in my name Serenity
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Scarecrow or my actual handle which.
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Is Sketchy Pete nine o two.
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And I do have a Blue Sky account which you
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can just find by typing in serenity scarecrow. And I
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hope everyone has a good day full of good vibes.
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And again follow me on all the social all social media.
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I'm out there as Gary Thorne and I love you
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and do not forget your fiber