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Hey guys, welcome to Forehead Corner.
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I'm your host, Martha Kelly, and I am here at the Sides and Sounds studio in Burbank, California, with the wonderful Jason Crow, who is the proprietor, and um we record here every week.
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And I've also done sale self-tape auditions with Jason and he loves to work with creative people.
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I don't know why I'm Jason didn't ask me to start with an ad.
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Um, but anyway, you can go to sidesandsounds.com.
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Um, and if you want to email this podcast, it's foreheadcornerpod at gmail.com.
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I think I came out of the gate with those because the last time we recorded, I forgot to say all of that until the very end.
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Um anyway, I'm not, I will not apologize for any of it.
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Um this week, I'm going to, in this episode, I am going to answer some listener emails because I didn't do that last week, and also just talk about a couple other things.
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One of which is today's August 6th.
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We're recording on Thursday, August 6th.
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Yesterday, August 5th, was the three-year anniversary of the Montgomery Brawl.
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And if you don't know what that is, and you'd like to have a little treat, a little pick-me up, highly encourage you to go on threads or TikTok and just put Montgomery Brawl in the search bar and then just live it up.
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I I don't want to ruin it.
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I don't want to ruin the fun surprise, but uh yeah, I yeah, I do.
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I'll tell you what it was.
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Why I don't like when people are uh cryptic and secretive.
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It was um three years ago on a riverboat dock, a security guard was asking some men in a small boat, not the river boat that the that docked there that the security guard worked for, but they had their own boat and they were docked a little ways down, and he was asking them to move, and I think they had been partying and were not wanting to move, and um yelling at him, and then he yelled back, and then one of the men swung on him.
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And why it turned into a brawl um is because then all three men started fighting him at once, and a woman that was with them came running, so it was four on one, and believe it or not, uh in this southern city, the four people were white and the security guard was black, and so there was a river boat with a bunch of African-American uh guests watching it, and there were black and white people.
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Um just I mean, you can say black and African American.
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Um, you can say white or honky also.
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Um it was like a crowd of black people and white people all around the dock, different parts of the dock, but people were watching this four white people kick and beat to the ground and keep punching and kicking this black security guard.
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And so then um some black men who saw this came running to his defense.
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Um a young man a young black man jumped off the riverboat and swam to the dock to help.
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Um, and then when the riverboat docked, a bunch of young men, young black men got off, and then more white people came.
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So it became a brawl.
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It became a um, and there was a folding chair, a folding chair involved.
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And one of the memes going around this anniversary celebration of this brawl was uh lift every chair and swing, which is a play on the expression lift every voice and sing.
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Um, but it ended up that the white people who had ganged up on this man, they did in fact lose the brawl.
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And um, I have to say, I don't normally like to watch people hitting each other, even if it's an underdog uh standing up for themselves, um, which is what this was.
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I don't I don't like it ordinarily, but I have to say there was something about this brawl.
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It was three years ago, so 2023, and um I don't know, the past ten years ever since MAGA has risen to the surface uh with its ugly, racist, despicable bullshit.
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Um I guess there I have been I have been on I guess I have been rooting for racist white people to get their asses kicked, and that's what happened to the Montgomery Montgomery Brawl.
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And so happy anniversary to everybody who celebrates.
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It is now one of my favorite holidays, and um, and it was yesterday.
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So and just look up because there's if you don't want to see the actual fight, I understand I don't like seeing people get hit, but if you want to see a reenactment, that's now my new favorite thing.
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There was one I saw yesterday, I can't remember if it was TikTok or Threads, it was one of the two, so look look it up.
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And it was done at a swimming pool.
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A bunch of friends, some white and some black, reenacted the brawl, and it's so good.
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So um just go ahead and treat yourself.
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Um, the other thing I'll say before I get to the mail.
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Oh, and I did see someone online today said there is a documentary about it on Tubi.
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I don't have Tubi, I'm gonna get it.
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I'll look it up and see if that is in fact a the thing uh if there is a documentary and I'll tell you about it.
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I also um will say that um I don't know how I don't know about you guys, but I'm fed up with not having a more focused podcast.
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So what I'm gonna do, there's a library in Burbank on my way home today.
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I'm gonna go into the library and I'm gonna find some kind of advice book.
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Uh some either a um some kind of advice book that looks terrible and read it and do an episode about it.
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I have a hard time doing the um documentary stuff.
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Like I did I did watch uh um the one about Gloria Vale, and then I watched the one about um Andrea Yates and the cult that she was in that Michael Waronecke is the cult leader of.
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I watched those very they upset me for days.
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Um and then I read uh Kate Goslin's book, and that upset me for days.
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So I don't I feel it's it I don't really want to watch documentaries about like I know there's a bunch of great ones about religious cults, um like the um there's one that's like uh the false prophet, I think, and there's one about uh Mormon um maybe that is the one about a Mormon I don't know.
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They're upsetting.
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Anyway, but like a self-help book or an advice book.
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I have one at home and I don't know if I can read it.
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Um, but it'd be this type of vibe.
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One of my um my former sponsor, close friend from my old AA group, none of the people in that group could deal with grief.
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They really actively avoid dealing with any heavy emotions because they're afraid it will make them drink.
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So they try to stay ahead of that rather than deal with it, which I certainly see the logic in that.
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Um, unfortunately, it isn't really much of a support community for helping each other get through life, which is what they say they are, if you can't deal with grief, because everyone deals with it at some point.
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If you stay alive long enough, you are going to lose people you love.
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Not a fun topic, but they couldn't deal with it, and so um but they that doesn't mean they don't care, it doesn't mean they don't love each other, but they couldn't they they that was a big big reason that I became estranged from that group is because of the I just they stopped calling on me at meetings, people stopped really talking to me before and after or at the break.
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Like people just kind of pulled away because I was openly grieving the loss of both my parents and then also my dog that I'd had for 10 years.
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And um, so this former sponsor, close friend, in an attempt to help, gave sent me a book, and the the title of the book is something like how to wrap up your grief or how to get over grief.
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And you and I read the introduction, and it's it's these two male therapists from the 90s telling people literally in the introduction, it says something to the effect of um grief isn't something that just you live with for the rest of your life.
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You have to decide to have an endpoint to it, and then you and then if you use our book and the exercises and uh advice in it, you will get to a point where you'll be able to just not be grief-stricken anymore and just decide decide you're done with it and you're going on with your life.
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Not that you don't love and miss your dearly departed, but that that you're not grieving anymore.
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And um, I want to read it so I can tear it to shreds, even though it was given to me by someone who was trying to be helpful.
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Um, you're not helping people.
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That's not true.
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You are help people who can and want to completely avoid dealing with their feelings, if they're able to do that, avoid dealing with difficult, complex feelings.
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If you are able to do that, and not everyone is, even if they try, but some people are.
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If you're able to do that and you want to do that, yes, that will help you.
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But a lot of people are not able to do that, and then it doesn't help, and it actually just makes you on top of dealing with whatever the original issue was.
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Now you feel like you're failing and you're doing something wrong, and that there's something wrong with you for not being able to bury it instead of this.
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Is just my own personal experience.
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It is normal and healthy and fine to feel and talk about with people who are able to talk about it, to cry about whatever complicated, difficult feelings like grief.
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It's fine, it doesn't just destroy you.
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It has not made me, not only has it not made me drink or get high, it has I've not wanted to.
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Not once since my mom died is coming up on 10 years ago.
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Not once in that time have I felt like if I could only drink, I would feel better.
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It doesn't that doesn't have to be what happens because I think yeah, I won't go into why I think it didn't happen for me.
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I I do partly think it's because I've been in therapy and I have had someone and other friends who aren't an AA who care and are can handle that kind of stuff.
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But my experience, just to cut to um just to get through this to something more fun, the way that I started thinking about it when I was in the most difficult part of it, is that, or one of the most difficult parts, which was what made it difficult, is that my my group that I thought of as a second family really rejected me over it.
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The way I started to look at grief over my parents was that it was like having a gigantic hole in the middle of your living room.
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Like if you just suddenly the floor fell open and there was a sinkhole and it's in the middle of your living room, and you can't move out of the house.
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You have no way, nowhere to move, no ability to move.
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You're stuck for the rest of your life in a house with a hole in the middle of the living room, and you can't fill it.
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There's no way to fill it, there's no way to cover it over.
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It's just there permanently in your life till you die.
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This giant hole.
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And there's a period of time where it feels like all you can do is just you fall into it and crawl back out.
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You lie down and are afraid to even move about your home because you're afraid you're gonna fall into it.
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Like there's a period of time where it incapacitates you, but slowly with support from people who love you and therapy and time, any combination of those, uh, you start to not be incapacitated.
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You start to be able to you find a w safe way to walk around it to get to one part of your house to the other.
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And you start to be able to kick your feet up on your couch that is on the outskirts of the hole in the living room and watch TV and watch movies and kind of forget you get you can go back to being engrossed in things and having fun and forget that it's even there.
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Um, for brief windows of time, you can't ever completely forget it's there, but it isn't ruining your life, it isn't ruling your life.
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You're you're not, you're not your life is no longer revolving around how do I keep from falling in this hole and how do I get around it.
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You just you learn how to, and then you get to get back to having a life of fun with your friends and loved ones, and do setting goals for yourself and doing them and feeling good and having adventures and engaging in politics and ever all everything, full spectrum of life, and you just learn to do it around this hole, and it's never not there.
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And that's how I have experienced the loss of my parents is there's not a single day ever since they've been gone.
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My mom coming up on 10 years, my mom, my dad five, that I haven't seen something that reminded me of them and made me miss them, seen an older person from a distance that looked like them or walked like them and felt that pang, but it doesn't lay me out like it used to.
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And I would love to rip this fucking get over your grief book to shreds.
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However, I'm afraid if I read it, I'll get so uh worked up that I'll be like, God damn it, I made myself mad for what?
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For a podcast episode?
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There's gotta be a self-help book in this library that I that is not as heavy.
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Um, and if there's, and I don't want to offend anyone, but if there's any conservative um self-help books, I'm probably gonna pick those to make fun of.
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But I will not be doing any James Dobson books or any of the horrific sadistic books that some super religious conservative Christi evangelical Christians have written about how the most important thing you can do as a parent is beat the shit out of your kids.
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I will not be reading or talking about those because I I can't deal with it.
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On to less subsetting stuff.
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And I am gonna get to listener mail, but very quickly, there was an influencer dust-up on TikTok and or threads this week where a little shop in Nantucket put a sign in their window that said no influencers, and then an influencer got mad about it and made a video.
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And then there was a little bit of a dust-up.
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And the main point of the shop being if you blow, if you bring a lot of attention to our shop on this quaint little island that we live on, it's gonna be overrun by tourists and then ruined.
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And then there's a whole there's a um the Good Noticings podcast has a great discussion about it this week.
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So I would recommend listening to their podcast about it because they go into it in detail.
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But what it reminded me of and what I wanted to talk about, which is much more fun, is when I first moved to Austin in 2000, what it one of the businesses there that this kind of happened to, not from from influencers, but from the food network, and it's a barbecue restaurant called the Salt Lick.
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The first time I went there was actually before I moved there when I visited uh and stayed with Ray and Colby and my friend Laura House.
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And one day, one of the days I was there was like, we're gonna go have lunch, I think, at the Salt Lick.
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And it's a half hour out of town, and it's cash only, and they don't serve alcohol, but you're allowed to bring in a cooler of beer if you want.
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You're allowed to bring your own alcohol, which of course we did.
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And then they had a and it was a small-ish, medium small restaurant, barbecue restaurant, out in the country, outside of Austin, and in um I forget the name of the area, something springs.
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Um but it wasn't that big of a place, and it wasn't that busy, and it was all like picnic tables with plastic tablecloths, and um, and the thing that Ray told us to do, um, which is one of my favorite one of my favorite categories of human experience is young, dumb, and broke activities.
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We were all three of the all four of us were young, dumb, and broke.
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And so what Ray said is we're gonna order family style, which is$20 a person, and it's all you can eat.
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And so what we're gonna do is we're gonna eat as much as we want, and then when we're done, when we're full, we're gonna order one more platter of barbecue so that we can take it home.
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And um, I'm sure that that place got scammed that way by young, dumb, drunk people all the time, but they didn't stop us, and so they had like br this great brisket and sausage and um ribs, a kind of okay potato salad, not good coleslaw, beans.
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I I don't eat beans, um, and white bread with butter.
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Um so it the food network got wind of it a few a few years later, and then it became a huge it's a huge thing now.
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Where the it's almost like there's a little mini carnival.
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Like they expanded it, they have a second building that's huge, and it's like hours long wait if you go there.
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So they have like a popcorn vendor outside, a lemonade stand, outdoor, like they have a whole it's like a little carnival.
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Um, the food's still great, but it did change it from what it was.
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But the whole city of Austin has has changed from what it was when I first moved there.
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But I do want to give a shout out to Ray and Colby's friend group that.
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There were all these kids who went to Texas AM together.
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They were in a service fraternity.
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So I forget the name of it, but it was a co-ed fraternity that would just did service work in the community.
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And they were this tight-knit group of guys and gals who were all in that.
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And then all moved to Austin after they graduated and stayed this really close friend group.
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And they partied all the time.
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A lot of it at Ray's house, Ray and Colby's house.
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I met them because of Ray and Colby.
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And I there's one girl's name I can't remember, but the ones I remember were Lindy, Stacy, Dania.
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Um damn it, there's another girl.
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Anyway, you don't you don't care.
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But these girls, I called them the crazy girls because every time there was a party, at some point in their drunkenness, they would take all their clothes off and just go around naked, walk around naked.
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And it wasn't an orgy situation.
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It was truly just they just would get drunk and be like, I don't, I don't feel like wearing my clothes anymore.
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And um, they were also incredibly super tight, but also incredibly warm and welcoming to anyone who joined their friend group who hadn't gone to Texas AM and wasn't part of the original group.
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And they were also just fair-minded, kind people, and I will end my ode to them with this anecdote, so you can see the kind of people they were and why I love them so much.
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There was a guy, a comedian in in that community, because Ray and Cole, Ray was kind of involved in the comedy community in Austin.
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There was a guy in that community who was very soft-spoken, he stuttered, he was kind of a small guy, he was socially very awkward, and some of the dickhead comics in that community, male and female, really picked on him.
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And then, but uh enough of us didn't that he uh would still socialize with everybody.
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But he came to a party at Ray and Colby's house one time.
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And one of the dickhead comedians, when he came in, said something in front of these, the crazy girls from Texas AM, said something to this guy, this awkward guy, something to the effect when he came in of like, who invited you here?
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Or how did you get invited?
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Something really cutting in front of everybody.
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And the crazy girls looked at that person who said that mean thing and said, What are you in high school?
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And just cut them down and stood up for him, and then the meanness towards him was ousted from the party, and um these naked crazy girls and the Texas AM and the guys, they weren't like um goody goody, straight-laced, we're gonna go around and tell everyone to mind their manners.
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They were like rough and tumble.
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There was a 4th of July party on a houseboat, and uh two of the guy friends from this group got in a fist fight, and the cops, the the lake cops came to our boat.
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We almost all got in trouble.
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Like these are rough and tumble characters, but they were like very morally on the side of the underdog and fairness and not being a dick for no reason.
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Okay.
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Now let's go to listener email.
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Did I put it off in part because I always am a little worried about answering emails because I don't want to let anyone down?
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And some people are teenagers asking for advice, and I don't want you to I want to be able to help you, but I but I've gotta be honest, I don't have any good advice.
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Okay.
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Let me start from the top.
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Okay, I'm not gonna say the last name, but no.
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Can you bleep that out?
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Sorry.
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Okay, this is from a young person.
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Hey Martha, would you stop would you stop talking to someone if they kept on making fun of you?
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One of my best friends makes fun of me for being a guinea pig and being gay.
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I don't know if guinea pig is slang for something or if he just means he's someone who tries a bunch of stuff.
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Uh, I do know what being gay means.
00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:03.599
Um, they send me videos of how they appreciate me for being their friend, so I don't know.
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Should I tell them to stop since I don't really like it and it makes me feel upset whenever they do it?
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I honestly don't know what to do.
00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:23.920
Okay, there's two um I've had experience with two types of people in a similar scenario.
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Um, I have I came from a family where there was both affectionate teasing and um mean-spirited ridicule.
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And sometimes it would start out as the first and then turn into the latter, and not no one had a good time with that.
00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:51.119
I still have um friends who we affectionately tease each other a lot.
00:27:51.279 --> 00:28:09.599
I think there are there are a lot of people, there's like good-natured ribbing, there's like friend group lore where you tease your friend because they are known for doing this one uh idiosyncrasy that everyone affectionately jokes about.
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That's one thing.
00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:20.720
And then another thing is being friends who are not really your friends who hang out with you but ridicule you.
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I've been in both situations.
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I'm luckily I don't have the kind of friends who ridicule mean-spirited ridicule.
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I don't have those kind of friends anymore.
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Um the last time I was spending time with people like that was in fact the treacherous hose from my old AA group.
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:48.880
With your situation, I don't know what kind of person your friend is who's doing this.
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:58.960
Um and I'll just say something uh about Baskets and Zach Galifanakis and my friendship with him.
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He's the kind of person who good-naturedly ribs teases people he likes.
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There are occasions where I would feel like it was not funny and it was hurtful.
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And the thing about Zach is if you go to him and say, This thing that you said hurt my feelings, I don't like it, I please don't do that anymore, he will say, I'm so sorry, I didn't mean to, and of course I won't do it anymore.
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That kind of person, a good-hearted friend, a genuine friend, they might sometimes think they're teasing you and hurt your feelings and not know it.
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And if you tell them, if you if that's the kind of friend you're talking about, and you tell them, these videos that you're sending me, they hurt my feelings, I don't like it.
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Could you stop?
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If their response is, oh my God, I didn't realize that, I'm sorry, I won't do it anymore.
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I didn't mean to hurt your feelings, then that is someone you maybe you can stay friends with if you want to.
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I certainly have stayed friends with Zach and would forever because those those times were very rare and also now are funny to me because the the time the one time I really got mad at him for hurting my feelings and addressed it, I really blew my stack.
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And I wrote an email and it was it was like um by the way, he was one of my bosses on this show.
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He wasn't just the a friend who I who gave me a great job, who was a co uh a fellow actor on the show.
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He was one of the executive producers, one of my bosses.
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Never acted like it, never acted, never held any, acted like he had any power over me.
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Lovely person, didn't act that way with anybody.
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That's not in his nature, but he said he did something one day that hurt my feelings, and I I steamed about it for the rest of the day, went home, wrote an email, and it was like this thing that you did today is not okay, and I don't treat you that way, and I don't want this to ever happen.
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It was like a furiously type, I don't know why I'm using a pen.
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I typed it angrily and send, and then um no no response from him in 24 hours.
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I became angrier and I talked to um one of the people working on the show that was also a friend of all both of ours, and was like, I'm ready to, I'm ready to um, I'm honestly ready to pick up a folding chair at this motherfucker, is how I felt.
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And then he called me the next day and we both we talked, we both ended up crying because he's a good person, and I had I was reacting, I'll say this, if this is helpful, I hope.
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:15.119
In that case, I was reacting from a place of a lot of past trauma that had nothing to do with him.
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:25.359
He had treated talked to me in a way I didn't like and hurt my feelings, but I my reaction was like way um intensified because of past stuff.
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:39.039
So I is it I'm I wonder if it would help you to ask yourself, because I don't know what the videos are like that he's sending you and the teasing that's happening, the making fun of.
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What you know, do you have a a history with people in your family of um making fun of you and hurting your feelings?
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And is it possible that this friend isn't trying to do that and they are unknowingly triggering that?
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And can you talk to them about it?
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The other group are people who don't give a shit.
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They are ridiculing you because it makes them feel good, they're not really your friends, even though they hang out with you.
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And my feeling, please don't take this as advice because I can't give you advice, I can't tell you what you should do in your situation.
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:30.079
I'll just tell you every single person I've had in my life like that, which hasn't been that many, but especially the last ones, the treacherous hose.
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I wish I had told them to fuck off to their faces.
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I wish I could, I can't do it now because I can't see them, I wouldn't be able to see them anywhere except an AA meeting.
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:48.960
And I'm not gonna go cuss someone out at an AA meeting when there's other people there, many of whom this is the only place they feel safe.
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:53.039
Like they have they're newly sober and have chaos in their lives.
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I don't want to make them feel unsafe, but Jesus, if I knew, if they were like playing pickleball on Tuesdays somewhere or they did their grocery shopping on a certain day, I would just want to go out and be like, fuck you, you fucking asshole.
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So those the people who don't care about you are just keeping you around to have someone to make fun of to make themselves feel better, they don't deserve your time.
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:26.079
That you don't have to feel bad about ending relationships with people like that.
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They truly don't give a fuck.
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:33.679
And if that's what this friend is, I'm not telling you to tell them to fuck off.
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But if you try to talk to them and it turns out they don't give a shit about you, you certainly feel feel free to tell them that I said they should fuck off.
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:53.360
You could say, My friend Martha said you should go fuck yourself, and then I'll back you up in what in however I can on that.
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:55.440
Oh, I just got mad.
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I get mad so easily.
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Um okay.
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:08.639
Um This is from someone.
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Oh, the someone asking, um, could you please speak on how you met Sean Clements and Hayes Davenport?
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What is it like to do Hollywood Handbook?
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I feel like it'd be difficult to not get triggered by the bit even if I knew it was a joke.
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Um and then they said, um Oh, even if I knew it was a joke, it happens to me even with my close fri my close friends getting upset by the bit I helped start.
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:47.519
I am that makes me laugh because that is I certainly have done that myself.
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:58.159
Um so I met Sean and Hayes just because their producer Kevin reached out and asked if I'd want to do Hollywood Handbook.
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And I think the first time I did it maybe was 2019, and I was thrilled because I was already a fan of their show.
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:23.920
Um there is always a point during the show, there's the the times I've done it, there has always come a point where part of me is like, wait, do they really not like me?
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:34.800
And there's always a point where my insecurities will come bubbling up, going, wait, are are they joking or wait?
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:43.920
Even though I like you said, I go into it knowing it's a bit, but it's always brief, and then when when when I come in before we start, they're super nice.
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:47.119
When we end afterwards, they're super nice.
00:36:47.360 --> 00:37:20.159
There are um and also I listen to their podcasts, so I know that the they do this jokey joking ball busting uh bit with all their guests, and it makes me but I am thin skinned, so yeah, there's always a point at some point where I waver a little and then I go, wait, this is we know this is a bit, and then it always when we finish, it's they're always so nice.
00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:22.079
I'm like, yeah, of course that was a bit.
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I do love them.
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I'm a fan.
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I love doing their show, and um yeah, they just make me laugh.
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:33.440
I love those guys.
00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:34.480
Okay, great.
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:41.519
Um okay, um, let me go to another one.
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Someone asking, are you going to be doing any new animated voiceover work?
00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:48.719
And yes.
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Um, I mean, I did, and I am now can't remember.
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:58.639
Let me just make sure I think it was announced so then I can say it.
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:00.719
Let me just look real quick.
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:07.119
No, I'm not finding it, so it didn't they didn't announce yet, so I can't say anything.
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:08.079
Sorry.
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:14.239
Well, it's fucking wasted uh wasted all our time.
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Sorry about that.
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:24.559
But I there is an animated thing that I did and one episode of that is coming out and it'll be announced shortly.
00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:30.719
And I'm sorry that I didn't uh that I didn't look it up ahead of time.
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Okay, let's get to the next one.
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:37.519
Oh, this is from Eugenie.
00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:50.400
Um if you had to name a baby right now, like someone handed you a baby and said, here you get to choose uh what name would you pick?
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:54.800
Do I get I guess do I get to keep the baby?
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:56.960
That is a that is a big factor.
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If you hear this and you signed it Jeannie, so I guess you go by Jeannie.
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:07.599
Um, but to be clear, I called her Eugenie because that's her email name.
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:13.679
Um if I get to keep the baby, it's gonna be different than if I don't.
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:17.360
And as I'm and so could you write back and let me know that?
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:21.119
Because and also I really am gonna want to keep the baby.
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:25.599
If you hand me a baby, I want to keep that baby.
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:31.679
I got baby fever uh initially from my niece and I have never recovered.
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I still have it.
00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:35.440
I it's like having walking pneumonia.
00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:37.280
Uh, it's like long COVID.
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I except it's not a disability.
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:41.920
I'm not trying to make fun of long COVID.
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:42.960
I shouldn't have said that.
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That's not you don't have to beep it, but I will just say before you cancel me, please accept my apology for equating long COVID with walking pneumonia because they're not the same.
00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:57.519
Or with baby fever.
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:05.119
If I get to keep the baby, I'm gonna think long and hard about the name.
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:10.800
If I don't get to keep the baby, I guess I'm just gonna I would just name them.
00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:14.000
You know what?
00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:30.320
I would name them Sir Mixalot just as a because I love nineties hip hop and rap, and um and I bet no one is named their baby after Sir Mixalot, and everybody deserves a namesake, I guess.
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:39.519
Um but if we get to keep the baby, and please let me keep the baby, if you don't mind, I just would love to keep I love babies.
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:41.360
Um, okay.
00:40:42.800 --> 00:41:04.960
Uh that one's about oh, so someone uh let me s it's uh Catherine and they uh they said that it's not really a question for the pod, certainly questionable.
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:28.800
Um and they said they think Gloria Vale needs another documentary, and that um they recommended several cult documentaries, the one about Warren Jeff's um Keep Sweet, Pray and Obra and Obey, Trust Me, the False Prophet.
00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:41.199
Um, excuse me, I just gurgled, wild, wild country, um capturing the freedmen's uh so that's a no for me on all of those.
00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:42.239
Super upsetting.
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:59.599
I did see a piece of Capturing the Freedmen's, which is on HBO, or it was, years ago, before streaming was a thing, when HBO was just a cable station that whatever they were showing was what you had access to.
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:06.480
Whatever they had just like a network, they had a live schedule, and that's what was on at any given time.
00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:23.280
And I was in a hotel room that had HBO, and so I was watching it and didn't know what it was, and and it ended up being capturing the Freedmen's, and it was this the it's about trigger warning um uh pedophilia.
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:41.840
It's about a dad who molested all his kids and lots of other kids, and one of his sons then also becoming a pedophile, and they together abused a bunch of kids, and I didn't know that's what it was.
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:58.079
Like I was just in my hotel room and it was click on HBO and their documentary, and then the the way that the dad talked about it was so matter-of-fact, it made me feel sick to my stomach.
00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:00.960
That's why I can't watch these doc kinds of documentaries.
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:12.480
Like he just his his affect was like, Yeah, and so then I did it to these kids and I did it to these kids, I did it to my own kids, and yeah, I did it.
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I did all of it.
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:16.880
Like he didn't have any remorse or shame.
00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:31.199
Oh, can it can't be that can't be what we we gotta find something better to um uh gotta find a less.
00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:36.559
Now I the thing is is there's some of these are mixed in with ones I already answered.
00:43:37.280 --> 00:44:01.920
Um Did I mention when I talked about the food cult did I mention that um one of the things that they did was like your sponsor would yell at you and that that was a Line in the sand for me.
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:26.639
And um I don't want to end on this, but um before ending on anything, I'll just say the first sponsor I had in the food cult, I was like so uh what do they call it, hanging on by a thread of like such a tightly gripped, I have to follow everything exactly.
00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:28.079
I can't make a mistake.
00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:38.000
I, you know, and I got rotiss, you were, you know, you're allowed to have four ounces of protein with your meal and barely anything else.
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And I got a rotisserie chicken, and I put a little of the broth at the bot like I measured out four ounces, and then spooned a little of the broth at the bottom of the container onto the chicken, and then was like, oh no, oh my god, what if that wasn't allowed?
00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:02.480
So I called my sponsor and was like, Hey, I did this, is that was that okay?
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:04.400
And she yelled at me.
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:06.159
And here's the kicker.
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Yes, it was allowed, but she yelled at me because I didn't ask her first and then accused me of trying to sabotage myself.
00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:38.159
And I very shortly after that I fired her, and then the second and last no, she wasn't that wasn't the last one, but for that first period, I did go back to the food cult in 2010, and um that was also a terrible experience.
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:46.000
But the first time I was in a I think it was in 2005 and beginning of 2006.
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:49.119
Nope, it was all 2006.
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Who who cares?
00:45:50.320 --> 00:46:11.039
But my second sponsor, after six months of sticking to this starvation food plan and answering all 170 of this these questions in this workbook, where you answer you write out the answer to one question every day, call your sponsor in the morning, read her the answer to the question every day.
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:15.679
For however, and stuck to the food plan.
00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:34.079
I I was miserable, I was crazier than about food than I had ever been, and I was the weight I had not been since seventh grade, and I did not think I was thin.
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:54.000
And I would say I am not a large person now, and at my lowest in that food cult, I was 15 pounds less than I am now, and I'm really short, so you really see it, and I still thought that I needed to lose more weight.
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:59.920
Anyway, I said to her, this is right before I fired her.
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:08.800
I said, um, I don't feel like I'm getting any emotional and spiritual recovery in this program.
00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:33.599
I had had the experience in AA for the first two, two years in AA of like going from miserable and hating sobriety to having a lot of fun, loving being sober, um, doing stand-up again and socializing more and feeling good without alcohol.
00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:45.440
And I was hoping that was gonna happen with food, and instead I was like miserable, and I said, I don't feel like I'm having any that recovery.
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:54.320
I feel like all I I'm just it just I lost weight from it, but that's that's the only thing that it's doing.
00:47:54.480 --> 00:48:06.079
And she said, or I s I said something like, the only reason I'm sticking with it is because of the weight loss, and she laughed in kind of a mocking way.
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:13.119
It's so and now as I'm saying that it sounds like I think everyone's making fun of me all the time, given what I've talked about this episode.
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:18.800
But she laughed in kind of a mocking way and said, We're all in it for the weight loss.
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That's why we're all sticking to the food plan.
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None of us would stick to the food plan if it wasn't for that.
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And that that was when I was like, oh, this isn't about healing your relationship with food and weight and learning how to live without obsessing over food and without using food for emotional reasons.
00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:48.480
This is just about being thin, and that's why we're all miserable bitches.
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:51.760
Everybody in it was a miserable bitch.
00:48:52.079 --> 00:49:03.199
If you there are lots of cities they don't even have in-person meetings for this food cult because the fellowship is so small, so you'd have to get on a phone meeting.
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:14.880
And if you were leading the meeting and you missed one thing in the format, there would be an angry woman snapping at you, telling you, that's not you miss this part.
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That's not how you do that.
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That's not how we do this.
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:21.280
It was like everyone was so tightly wound because of the starvation.
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And when I did it in 2010, which I only had phone meetings, there was you're also supposed to, I'm sorry.
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You're also, I'm not ending on this.
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You're also supposed to make three phone calls a day.
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I forgot about that.
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So these are the requirements.
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Starvation diet you have to stick to.
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Measure and weigh every morsel of food, and what you're allowed to have is not enough.
00:49:48.000 --> 00:50:02.960
That crazy food plan, answer a question in the workbook, write it out, call your sponsor, read it to her, go to three meetings a week and call three people in the program every day.
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:11.760
One of these people in 2010, a woman, we're having our it's called an outreach call.
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We're having a call, and she sounded, she honestly sounded like someone had just died.
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Super sad.
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And she told me that even though she had not changed her food plan, she had started to gain weight.
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And this was because she was menopausal, as she told me.
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And her sponsor told her she had to cut out all grains, go back to not eating any grains in order to lose that weight and maintain at your goal weight.
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Rat and I said, Why can't you just exercise more?
00:50:48.880 --> 00:51:01.519
Well, no, my sponsor said I just have to cut out grains, and it's like your body, when you hit menopause, d actually, you know what?
00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:11.280
Our bodies from the time we hit puberty and for the rest of our lives, our bodies do do things without asking us what we want.
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That's just how it is.
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:20.079
When you hit puberty, your body starts doing a bunch of stuff you don't like and um you can't control.
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And when you hit menopause, and what for guys too, although they don't have periods and they don't go through menopause, but they have other stuff they deal with, and aging and all that.
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And so her body, she's sticking to this fucking starvation food plan, where by the way, when you are allowed grains, it's one piece of flourless bread or half a cup of brown rice or one small corn tortilla.
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Those are the grains you're allowed to have.
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And you're only allowed to have one serving with lunch and one with dinner.
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So it's hardly any.
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Anyway, her body is like, yeah, we're shutting down the hormone factory.
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You're not, you're past the age of having kids.
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So what we do when that happens is we we slow, we make it so you gain a little weight because your bones are gonna get easier to break and you need some padding.
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I think that's what it is.
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I think that's why women tend to gain weight in menopause.
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And men gain weight when they're when they're in their 50s and 60s too, but I think mostly from beer.
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I don't know that it's hormonal.
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But her body's just doing this, she's not doing anything different with the food, and her sponsor is like, well, you have to go back to starving because it's more important that you weigh this number.
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I'm so mad.
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Okay.
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Um, let me find a um not bummer one or something else that's not a bummer.
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For the love of God.
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Let's not end on a bummer because it's I've been think talking for 50 minutes-ish.
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Okay, so I wanna f I don't wanna go over an hour.
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So I'm trying to look for something fun to end on.
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Um and it's not that's not happening.
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Uh on that.
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Um I guess I found something on threads that might be a lighthearted way to end.
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I don't know if it's interesting.
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Um again, I'm gonna go to the library and get an actual book to read and talk about on the next episode.
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Main the next main episode next week.
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This is by a user whose name's Starler underscore B U.
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I don't know who they are, and I I don't follow them, but it says movie theaters should release a pig into the theater to clean up popcorn spills, and they should let me pet the pig.
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And I'm I'm liking that and I'm sharing it.
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Um, and it reminds me, first of all, pigs are great.
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I'm gonna tell you about a couple pigs I've known.
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The first one was when I was a pet sitter in Austin in 2002.
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It was a one of the clients had two pit bulls and one giant pot-bellied pig.
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And the pig's name was Pig Newton, and he was blind.
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He was gigantic, and he was also a huge grump.
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Here's the great thing about him, though, is he couldn't he would charge.
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If he could have knocked me over or bit me, he would have because he was grumpy, but he couldn't see.
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And so they said, if he charges at you, you can either step out of the way or just hold a broom in front of you.
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And if he makes contact with the broom and feels the bristles on his face, he'll turn away.
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I don't think I ever had uh he never made uh I never had to protect myself with a broom.
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I think I might have stepped out of his way one time, but I don't even remember him charging.
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He loved fig newtons, and they named him Pig Newton.
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So if I put a couple of fig newtons in his bowl, he would let me scratch his little head.
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And by little I mean giant.
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He was a giant pot-bellied pig.
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Um, but he got along with the dogs.
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He was so cute.
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He was so cute that even though he didn't like me and was really grumpy, I couldn't resist giving him little pets when he was eating and wouldn't would let me.
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He would let me do it when he was eating Fig Newton's.
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The two pit bulls were also wonderful, and one of them had pulled a kid, a drowning kid, out of the river um in Austin or near Austin, and been in the newspaper for it.
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So please know that there are lots of good pit bulls and bull bull dog mixes out there.
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The other pig that I've known was the one that we acted with on Euphoria season three, and all of a sudden I'm blanking on her name.
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Because she was also a giant pot-bellied pig, but she was she was bigger than Pig Newton.
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She wasn't a pot-bellied pig, she was a big nor regular pig, so she was bigger than him, gigantic.
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Maple, maybe her name was Maple.
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Uh I was afraid of her when I first saw her, and then found out how gentle she was, and she was very her personality was like a dog, and just loved her.
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These the scene required the guys, Toby and James, to irritate her because in the scene they're trying to get her out of the house, and because she's shitting in the house, because Alamo has sent her as a mean prank on us.
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And they keep they're irritating, like they're kind of yelling at her and they push her a little.
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They don't hurt her, but she was making these little noises like her feelings were hurt.
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The actor, not the not part of the scene.
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This pig, her herself personally, I think her feelings were hurt by the acting she was having to do.
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And so between shots, everybody would just pet her and tell her how great she was.
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And she loved to be petted.
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And I wish I could say I have not eaten any bacon or ham since working with Maple.
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I wish I was a vegetarian.
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Haven't eaten b bacon or ham in a while.
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I kind of don't really like meat.
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Sorry to end on that, that wasn't that fun.
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Is there anything?
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Is there anything fun to end on?
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I guess.
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Oh, well, um I just happened upon I'm not gonna go back into it, but I just happened upon a video of the Montgomery Brawl.
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And again, treat yourself.
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Go on Threads or TikTok and just look it up in the search bar.
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Anyway, I'm re I'm sharing it on Threads, so if you follow me on Threads, you'll see it on my timeline.
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And my username on Threads is M Kelly ATX.
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M for Martha Kelly is my last name.
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ATX is short for Austin, Texas.
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Well, I started talking off talking about being young and dumb, and now I'm older and still dumb.
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And you know what?
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God bless America.
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So thank you for listening.
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Hey guys, welcome to Forehead Corner.
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And I've also done sale self-tape auditions with Jason and he loves to work with creative people.
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So you can go if you'd like to, and I'm not gonna, I won't be asking any follow-up questions, so feel free to live how you want.
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But if you want to record a podcast or do a self-tape audition, um, this is a great place to do it.
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I don't know why I'm Jason didn't ask me to start with an ad.
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Um, but anyway, you can go to sidesandsounds.com.
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Um, and if you want to email this podcast, it's foreheadcornerpod at gmail.com.
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I think I came out of the gate with those because the last time we recorded, I forgot to say all of that until the very end.
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Um anyway, I'm not, I will not apologize for any of it.
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Um this week, I'm going to, in this episode, I am going to answer some listener emails because I didn't do that last week, and also just talk about a couple other things.
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One of which is today's August 6th.
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We're recording on Thursday, August 6th.
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Yesterday, August 5th, was the three-year anniversary of the Montgomery Brawl.
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And if you don't know what that is, and you'd like to have a little treat, a little pick-me up, highly encourage you to go on threads or TikTok and just put Montgomery Brawl in the search bar and then just live it up.
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I I don't want to ruin it.
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I don't want to ruin the fun surprise, but uh yeah, I yeah, I do.
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I'll tell you what it was.
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Why I don't like when people are uh cryptic and secretive.
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It was um three years ago on a riverboat dock, a security guard was asking some men in a small boat, not the river boat that the that docked there that the security guard worked for, but they had their own boat and they were docked a little ways down, and he was asking them to move, and I think they had been partying and were not wanting to move, and um yelling at him, and then he yelled back, and then one of the men swung on him.
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And why it turned into a brawl um is because then all three men started fighting him at once, and a woman that was with them came running, so it was four on one, and believe it or not, uh in this southern city, the four people were white and the security guard was black, and so there was a river boat with a bunch of African-American uh guests watching it, and there were black and white people.
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Um just I mean, you can say black and African American.
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Um, you can say white or honky also.
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Um it was like a crowd of black people and white people all around the dock, different parts of the dock, but people were watching this four white people kick and beat to the ground and keep punching and kicking this black security guard.
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And so then um some black men who saw this came running to his defense.
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Um a young man a young black man jumped off the riverboat and swam to the dock to help.
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Um, and then when the riverboat docked, a bunch of young men, young black men got off, and then more white people came.
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So it became a brawl.
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It became a um, and there was a folding chair, a folding chair involved.
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And one of the memes going around this anniversary celebration of this brawl was uh lift every chair and swing, which is a play on the expression lift every voice and sing.
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Um, but it ended up that the white people who had ganged up on this man, they did in fact lose the brawl.
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And um, I have to say, I don't normally like to watch people hitting each other, even if it's an underdog uh standing up for themselves, um, which is what this was.
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I don't I don't like it ordinarily, but I have to say there was something about this brawl.
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It was three years ago, so 2023, and um I don't know, the past ten years ever since MAGA has risen to the surface uh with its ugly, racist, despicable bullshit.
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Um I guess there I have been I have been on I guess I have been rooting for racist white people to get their asses kicked, and that's what happened to the Montgomery Montgomery Brawl.
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And so happy anniversary to everybody who celebrates.
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It is now one of my favorite holidays, and um, and it was yesterday.
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So and just look up because there's if you don't want to see the actual fight, I understand I don't like seeing people get hit, but if you want to see a reenactment, that's now my new favorite thing.
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There was one I saw yesterday, I can't remember if it was TikTok or Threads, it was one of the two, so look look it up.
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And it was done at a swimming pool.
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A bunch of friends, some white and some black, reenacted the brawl, and it's so good.
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So um just go ahead and treat yourself.
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Um, the other thing I'll say before I get to the mail.
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Oh, and I did see someone online today said there is a documentary about it on Tubi.
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I don't have Tubi, I'm gonna get it.
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I'll look it up and see if that is in fact a the thing uh if there is a documentary and I'll tell you about it.
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I also um will say that um I don't know how I don't know about you guys, but I'm fed up with not having a more focused podcast.
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So what I'm gonna do, there's a library in Burbank on my way home today.
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I'm gonna go into the library and I'm gonna find some kind of advice book.
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Uh some either a um some kind of advice book that looks terrible and read it and do an episode about it.
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I have a hard time doing the um documentary stuff.
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Like I did I did watch uh um the one about Gloria Vale, and then I watched the one about um Andrea Yates and the cult that she was in that Michael Waronecke is the cult leader of.
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I watched those very they upset me for days.
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Um and then I read uh Kate Goslin's book, and that upset me for days.
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So I don't I feel it's it I don't really want to watch documentaries about like I know there's a bunch of great ones about religious cults, um like the um there's one that's like uh the false prophet, I think, and there's one about uh Mormon um maybe that is the one about a Mormon I don't know.
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They're upsetting.
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Anyway, but like a self-help book or an advice book.
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I have one at home and I don't know if I can read it.
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Um, but it'd be this type of vibe.
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One of my um my former sponsor, close friend from my old AA group, none of the people in that group could deal with grief.
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They really actively avoid dealing with any heavy emotions because they're afraid it will make them drink.
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So they try to stay ahead of that rather than deal with it, which I certainly see the logic in that.
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Um, unfortunately, it isn't really much of a support community for helping each other get through life, which is what they say they are, if you can't deal with grief, because everyone deals with it at some point.
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If you stay alive long enough, you are going to lose people you love.
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Not a fun topic, but they couldn't deal with it, and so um but they that doesn't mean they don't care, it doesn't mean they don't love each other, but they couldn't they they that was a big big reason that I became estranged from that group is because of the I just they stopped calling on me at meetings, people stopped really talking to me before and after or at the break.
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Like people just kind of pulled away because I was openly grieving the loss of both my parents and then also my dog that I'd had for 10 years.
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And um, so this former sponsor, close friend, in an attempt to help, gave sent me a book, and the the title of the book is something like how to wrap up your grief or how to get over grief.
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And you and I read the introduction, and it's it's these two male therapists from the 90s telling people literally in the introduction, it says something to the effect of um grief isn't something that just you live with for the rest of your life.
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You have to decide to have an endpoint to it, and then you and then if you use our book and the exercises and uh advice in it, you will get to a point where you'll be able to just not be grief-stricken anymore and just decide decide you're done with it and you're going on with your life.
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Not that you don't love and miss your dearly departed, but that that you're not grieving anymore.
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And um, I want to read it so I can tear it to shreds, even though it was given to me by someone who was trying to be helpful.
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Um, you're not helping people.
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That's not true.
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You are help people who can and want to completely avoid dealing with their feelings, if they're able to do that, avoid dealing with difficult, complex feelings.
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If you are able to do that, and not everyone is, even if they try, but some people are.
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If you're able to do that and you want to do that, yes, that will help you.
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But a lot of people are not able to do that, and then it doesn't help, and it actually just makes you on top of dealing with whatever the original issue was.
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Now you feel like you're failing and you're doing something wrong, and that there's something wrong with you for not being able to bury it instead of this.
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Is just my own personal experience.
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It is normal and healthy and fine to feel and talk about with people who are able to talk about it, to cry about whatever complicated, difficult feelings like grief.
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It's fine, it doesn't just destroy you.
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It has not made me, not only has it not made me drink or get high, it has I've not wanted to.
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Not once since my mom died is coming up on 10 years ago.
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Not once in that time have I felt like if I could only drink, I would feel better.
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It doesn't that doesn't have to be what happens because I think yeah, I won't go into why I think it didn't happen for me.
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I I do partly think it's because I've been in therapy and I have had someone and other friends who aren't an AA who care and are can handle that kind of stuff.
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But my experience, just to cut to um just to get through this to something more fun, the way that I started thinking about it when I was in the most difficult part of it, is that, or one of the most difficult parts, which was what made it difficult, is that my my group that I thought of as a second family really rejected me over it.
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The way I started to look at grief over my parents was that it was like having a gigantic hole in the middle of your living room.
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Like if you just suddenly the floor fell open and there was a sinkhole and it's in the middle of your living room, and you can't move out of the house.
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You have no way, nowhere to move, no ability to move.
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You're stuck for the rest of your life in a house with a hole in the middle of the living room, and you can't fill it.
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There's no way to fill it, there's no way to cover it over.
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It's just there permanently in your life till you die.
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This giant hole.
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And there's a period of time where it feels like all you can do is just you fall into it and crawl back out.
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You lie down and are afraid to even move about your home because you're afraid you're gonna fall into it.
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Like there's a period of time where it incapacitates you, but slowly with support from people who love you and therapy and time, any combination of those, uh, you start to not be incapacitated.
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You start to be able to you find a w safe way to walk around it to get to one part of your house to the other.
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And you start to be able to kick your feet up on your couch that is on the outskirts of the hole in the living room and watch TV and watch movies and kind of forget you get you can go back to being engrossed in things and having fun and forget that it's even there.
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Um, for brief windows of time, you can't ever completely forget it's there, but it isn't ruining your life, it isn't ruling your life.
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You're you're not, you're not your life is no longer revolving around how do I keep from falling in this hole and how do I get around it.
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You just you learn how to, and then you get to get back to having a life of fun with your friends and loved ones, and do setting goals for yourself and doing them and feeling good and having adventures and engaging in politics and ever all everything, full spectrum of life, and you just learn to do it around this hole, and it's never not there.
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And that's how I have experienced the loss of my parents is there's not a single day ever since they've been gone.
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My mom coming up on 10 years, my mom, my dad five, that I haven't seen something that reminded me of them and made me miss them, seen an older person from a distance that looked like them or walked like them and felt that pang, but it doesn't lay me out like it used to.
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And I would love to rip this fucking get over your grief book to shreds.
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However, I'm afraid if I read it, I'll get so uh worked up that I'll be like, God damn it, I made myself mad for what?
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For a podcast episode?
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There's gotta be a self-help book in this library that I that is not as heavy.
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Um, and if there's, and I don't want to offend anyone, but if there's any conservative um self-help books, I'm probably gonna pick those to make fun of.
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But I will not be doing any James Dobson books or any of the horrific sadistic books that some super religious conservative Christi evangelical Christians have written about how the most important thing you can do as a parent is beat the shit out of your kids.
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I will not be reading or talking about those because I I can't deal with it.
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On to less subsetting stuff.
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And I am gonna get to listener mail, but very quickly, there was an influencer dust-up on TikTok and or threads this week where a little shop in Nantucket put a sign in their window that said no influencers, and then an influencer got mad about it and made a video.
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And then there was a little bit of a dust-up.
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And the main point of the shop being if you blow, if you bring a lot of attention to our shop on this quaint little island that we live on, it's gonna be overrun by tourists and then ruined.
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And then there's a whole there's a um the Good Noticings podcast has a great discussion about it this week.
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So I would recommend listening to their podcast about it because they go into it in detail.
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But what it reminded me of and what I wanted to talk about, which is much more fun, is when I first moved to Austin in 2000, what it one of the businesses there that this kind of happened to, not from from influencers, but from the food network, and it's a barbecue restaurant called the Salt Lick.
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The first time I went there was actually before I moved there when I visited uh and stayed with Ray and Colby and my friend Laura House.
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And one day, one of the days I was there was like, we're gonna go have lunch, I think, at the Salt Lick.
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And it's a half hour out of town, and it's cash only, and they don't serve alcohol, but you're allowed to bring in a cooler of beer if you want.
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You're allowed to bring your own alcohol, which of course we did.
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And then they had a and it was a small-ish, medium small restaurant, barbecue restaurant, out in the country, outside of Austin, and in um I forget the name of the area, something springs.
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Um but it wasn't that big of a place, and it wasn't that busy, and it was all like picnic tables with plastic tablecloths, and um, and the thing that Ray told us to do, um, which is one of my favorite one of my favorite categories of human experience is young, dumb, and broke activities.
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We were all three of the all four of us were young, dumb, and broke.
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And so what Ray said is we're gonna order family style, which is$20 a person, and it's all you can eat.
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And so what we're gonna do is we're gonna eat as much as we want, and then when we're done, when we're full, we're gonna order one more platter of barbecue so that we can take it home.
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And um, I'm sure that that place got scammed that way by young, dumb, drunk people all the time, but they didn't stop us, and so they had like br this great brisket and sausage and um ribs, a kind of okay potato salad, not good coleslaw, beans.
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I I don't eat beans, um, and white bread with butter.
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Um so it the food network got wind of it a few a few years later, and then it became a huge it's a huge thing now.
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Where the it's almost like there's a little mini carnival.
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Like they expanded it, they have a second building that's huge, and it's like hours long wait if you go there.
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So they have like a popcorn vendor outside, a lemonade stand, outdoor, like they have a whole it's like a little carnival.
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Um, the food's still great, but it did change it from what it was.
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But the whole city of Austin has has changed from what it was when I first moved there.
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But I do want to give a shout out to Ray and Colby's friend group that.
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There were all these kids who went to Texas AM together.
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They were in a service fraternity.
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So I forget the name of it, but it was a co-ed fraternity that would just did service work in the community.
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And they were this tight-knit group of guys and gals who were all in that.
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And then all moved to Austin after they graduated and stayed this really close friend group.
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And they partied all the time.
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A lot of it at Ray's house, Ray and Colby's house.
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I met them because of Ray and Colby.
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And I there's one girl's name I can't remember, but the ones I remember were Lindy, Stacy, Dania.
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Um damn it, there's another girl.
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Anyway, you don't you don't care.
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But these girls, I called them the crazy girls because every time there was a party, at some point in their drunkenness, they would take all their clothes off and just go around naked, walk around naked.
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And it wasn't an orgy situation.
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It was truly just they just would get drunk and be like, I don't, I don't feel like wearing my clothes anymore.
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And um, they were also incredibly super tight, but also incredibly warm and welcoming to anyone who joined their friend group who hadn't gone to Texas AM and wasn't part of the original group.
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And they were also just fair-minded, kind people, and I will end my ode to them with this anecdote, so you can see the kind of people they were and why I love them so much.
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There was a guy, a comedian in in that community, because Ray and Cole, Ray was kind of involved in the comedy community in Austin.
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There was a guy in that community who was very soft-spoken, he stuttered, he was kind of a small guy, he was socially very awkward, and some of the dickhead comics in that community, male and female, really picked on him.
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And then, but uh enough of us didn't that he uh would still socialize with everybody.
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But he came to a party at Ray and Colby's house one time.
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And one of the dickhead comedians, when he came in, said something in front of these, the crazy girls from Texas AM, said something to this guy, this awkward guy, something to the effect when he came in of like, who invited you here?
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Or how did you get invited?
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Something really cutting in front of everybody.
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And the crazy girls looked at that person who said that mean thing and said, What are you in high school?
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And just cut them down and stood up for him, and then the meanness towards him was ousted from the party, and um these naked crazy girls and the Texas AM and the guys, they weren't like um goody goody, straight-laced, we're gonna go around and tell everyone to mind their manners.
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They were like rough and tumble.
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There was a 4th of July party on a houseboat, and uh two of the guy friends from this group got in a fist fight, and the cops, the the lake cops came to our boat.
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We almost all got in trouble.
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Like these are rough and tumble characters, but they were like very morally on the side of the underdog and fairness and not being a dick for no reason.
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Okay.
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Now let's go to listener email.
00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:06.400
Did I put it off in part because I always am a little worried about answering emails because I don't want to let anyone down?
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And some people are teenagers asking for advice, and I don't want you to I want to be able to help you, but I but I've gotta be honest, I don't have any good advice.
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Okay.
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Let me start from the top.
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Okay, I'm not gonna say the last name, but no.
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Can you bleep that out?
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Sorry.
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Okay, this is from a young person.
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Hey Martha, would you stop would you stop talking to someone if they kept on making fun of you?
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One of my best friends makes fun of me for being a guinea pig and being gay.
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I don't know if guinea pig is slang for something or if he just means he's someone who tries a bunch of stuff.
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Uh, I do know what being gay means.
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Um, they send me videos of how they appreciate me for being their friend, so I don't know.
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Should I tell them to stop since I don't really like it and it makes me feel upset whenever they do it?
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I honestly don't know what to do.
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Okay, there's two um I've had experience with two types of people in a similar scenario.
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Um, I have I came from a family where there was both affectionate teasing and um mean-spirited ridicule.
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And sometimes it would start out as the first and then turn into the latter, and not no one had a good time with that.
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I still have um friends who we affectionately tease each other a lot.
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I think there are there are a lot of people, there's like good-natured ribbing, there's like friend group lore where you tease your friend because they are known for doing this one uh idiosyncrasy that everyone affectionately jokes about.
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That's one thing.
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And then another thing is being friends who are not really your friends who hang out with you but ridicule you.
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I've been in both situations.
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I'm luckily I don't have the kind of friends who ridicule mean-spirited ridicule.
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I don't have those kind of friends anymore.
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Um the last time I was spending time with people like that was in fact the treacherous hose from my old AA group.
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With your situation, I don't know what kind of person your friend is who's doing this.
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Um and I'll just say something uh about Baskets and Zach Galifanakis and my friendship with him.
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He's the kind of person who good-naturedly ribs teases people he likes.
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There are occasions where I would feel like it was not funny and it was hurtful.
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And the thing about Zach is if you go to him and say, This thing that you said hurt my feelings, I don't like it, I please don't do that anymore, he will say, I'm so sorry, I didn't mean to, and of course I won't do it anymore.
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That kind of person, a good-hearted friend, a genuine friend, they might sometimes think they're teasing you and hurt your feelings and not know it.
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And if you tell them, if you if that's the kind of friend you're talking about, and you tell them, these videos that you're sending me, they hurt my feelings, I don't like it.
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Could you stop?
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If their response is, oh my God, I didn't realize that, I'm sorry, I won't do it anymore.
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I didn't mean to hurt your feelings, then that is someone you maybe you can stay friends with if you want to.
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I certainly have stayed friends with Zach and would forever because those those times were very rare and also now are funny to me because the the time the one time I really got mad at him for hurting my feelings and addressed it, I really blew my stack.
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And I wrote an email and it was it was like um by the way, he was one of my bosses on this show.
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He wasn't just the a friend who I who gave me a great job, who was a co uh a fellow actor on the show.
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He was one of the executive producers, one of my bosses.
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Never acted like it, never acted, never held any, acted like he had any power over me.
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Lovely person, didn't act that way with anybody.
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That's not in his nature, but he said he did something one day that hurt my feelings, and I I steamed about it for the rest of the day, went home, wrote an email, and it was like this thing that you did today is not okay, and I don't treat you that way, and I don't want this to ever happen.
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It was like a furiously type, I don't know why I'm using a pen.
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I typed it angrily and send, and then um no no response from him in 24 hours.
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I became angrier and I talked to um one of the people working on the show that was also a friend of all both of ours, and was like, I'm ready to, I'm ready to um, I'm honestly ready to pick up a folding chair at this motherfucker, is how I felt.
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And then he called me the next day and we both we talked, we both ended up crying because he's a good person, and I had I was reacting, I'll say this, if this is helpful, I hope.
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In that case, I was reacting from a place of a lot of past trauma that had nothing to do with him.
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He had treated talked to me in a way I didn't like and hurt my feelings, but I my reaction was like way um intensified because of past stuff.
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So I is it I'm I wonder if it would help you to ask yourself, because I don't know what the videos are like that he's sending you and the teasing that's happening, the making fun of.
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What you know, do you have a a history with people in your family of um making fun of you and hurting your feelings?
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And is it possible that this friend isn't trying to do that and they are unknowingly triggering that?
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And can you talk to them about it?
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The other group are people who don't give a shit.
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They are ridiculing you because it makes them feel good, they're not really your friends, even though they hang out with you.
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And my feeling, please don't take this as advice because I can't give you advice, I can't tell you what you should do in your situation.
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I'll just tell you every single person I've had in my life like that, which hasn't been that many, but especially the last ones, the treacherous hose.
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I wish I had told them to fuck off to their faces.
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I wish I could, I can't do it now because I can't see them, I wouldn't be able to see them anywhere except an AA meeting.
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And I'm not gonna go cuss someone out at an AA meeting when there's other people there, many of whom this is the only place they feel safe.
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Like they have they're newly sober and have chaos in their lives.
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I don't want to make them feel unsafe, but Jesus, if I knew, if they were like playing pickleball on Tuesdays somewhere or they did their grocery shopping on a certain day, I would just want to go out and be like, fuck you, you fucking asshole.
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So those the people who don't care about you are just keeping you around to have someone to make fun of to make themselves feel better, they don't deserve your time.
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That you don't have to feel bad about ending relationships with people like that.
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They truly don't give a fuck.
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And if that's what this friend is, I'm not telling you to tell them to fuck off.
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But if you try to talk to them and it turns out they don't give a shit about you, you certainly feel feel free to tell them that I said they should fuck off.
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You could say, My friend Martha said you should go fuck yourself, and then I'll back you up in what in however I can on that.
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:55.440
Oh, I just got mad.
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I get mad so easily.
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Um okay.
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:08.639
Um This is from someone.
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:17.280
Oh, the someone asking, um, could you please speak on how you met Sean Clements and Hayes Davenport?
00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:20.000
What is it like to do Hollywood Handbook?
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I feel like it'd be difficult to not get triggered by the bit even if I knew it was a joke.
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Um and then they said, um Oh, even if I knew it was a joke, it happens to me even with my close fri my close friends getting upset by the bit I helped start.
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I am that makes me laugh because that is I certainly have done that myself.
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:58.159
Um so I met Sean and Hayes just because their producer Kevin reached out and asked if I'd want to do Hollywood Handbook.
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And I think the first time I did it maybe was 2019, and I was thrilled because I was already a fan of their show.
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:23.920
Um there is always a point during the show, there's the the times I've done it, there has always come a point where part of me is like, wait, do they really not like me?
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And there's always a point where my insecurities will come bubbling up, going, wait, are are they joking or wait?
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Even though I like you said, I go into it knowing it's a bit, but it's always brief, and then when when when I come in before we start, they're super nice.
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When we end afterwards, they're super nice.
00:36:47.360 --> 00:37:20.159
There are um and also I listen to their podcasts, so I know that the they do this jokey joking ball busting uh bit with all their guests, and it makes me but I am thin skinned, so yeah, there's always a point at some point where I waver a little and then I go, wait, this is we know this is a bit, and then it always when we finish, it's they're always so nice.
00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:22.079
I'm like, yeah, of course that was a bit.
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I do love them.
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I'm a fan.
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I love doing their show, and um yeah, they just make me laugh.
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I love those guys.
00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:34.480
Okay, great.
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:41.519
Um okay, um, let me go to another one.
00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:47.199
Someone asking, are you going to be doing any new animated voiceover work?
00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:48.719
And yes.
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:54.480
Um, I mean, I did, and I am now can't remember.
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:58.639
Let me just make sure I think it was announced so then I can say it.
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:00.719
Let me just look real quick.
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:07.119
No, I'm not finding it, so it didn't they didn't announce yet, so I can't say anything.
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Sorry.
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:14.239
Well, it's fucking wasted uh wasted all our time.
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:15.360
Sorry about that.
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:24.559
But I there is an animated thing that I did and one episode of that is coming out and it'll be announced shortly.
00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:30.719
And I'm sorry that I didn't uh that I didn't look it up ahead of time.
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Okay, let's get to the next one.
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:37.519
Oh, this is from Eugenie.
00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:50.400
Um if you had to name a baby right now, like someone handed you a baby and said, here you get to choose uh what name would you pick?
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:54.800
Do I get I guess do I get to keep the baby?
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:56.960
That is a that is a big factor.
00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:01.840
If you hear this and you signed it Jeannie, so I guess you go by Jeannie.
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:07.599
Um, but to be clear, I called her Eugenie because that's her email name.
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:13.679
Um if I get to keep the baby, it's gonna be different than if I don't.
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:17.360
And as I'm and so could you write back and let me know that?
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:21.119
Because and also I really am gonna want to keep the baby.
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:25.599
If you hand me a baby, I want to keep that baby.
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:31.679
I got baby fever uh initially from my niece and I have never recovered.
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I still have it.
00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:35.440
I it's like having walking pneumonia.
00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:37.280
Uh, it's like long COVID.
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I except it's not a disability.
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:41.920
I'm not trying to make fun of long COVID.
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:42.960
I shouldn't have said that.
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That's not you don't have to beep it, but I will just say before you cancel me, please accept my apology for equating long COVID with walking pneumonia because they're not the same.
00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:57.519
Or with baby fever.
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:05.119
If I get to keep the baby, I'm gonna think long and hard about the name.
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:10.800
If I don't get to keep the baby, I guess I'm just gonna I would just name them.
00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:14.000
You know what?
00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:30.320
I would name them Sir Mixalot just as a because I love nineties hip hop and rap, and um and I bet no one is named their baby after Sir Mixalot, and everybody deserves a namesake, I guess.
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:39.519
Um but if we get to keep the baby, and please let me keep the baby, if you don't mind, I just would love to keep I love babies.
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:41.360
Um, okay.
00:40:42.800 --> 00:41:04.960
Uh that one's about oh, so someone uh let me s it's uh Catherine and they uh they said that it's not really a question for the pod, certainly questionable.
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:28.800
Um and they said they think Gloria Vale needs another documentary, and that um they recommended several cult documentaries, the one about Warren Jeff's um Keep Sweet, Pray and Obra and Obey, Trust Me, the False Prophet.
00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:41.199
Um, excuse me, I just gurgled, wild, wild country, um capturing the freedmen's uh so that's a no for me on all of those.
00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:42.239
Super upsetting.
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:59.599
I did see a piece of Capturing the Freedmen's, which is on HBO, or it was, years ago, before streaming was a thing, when HBO was just a cable station that whatever they were showing was what you had access to.
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:06.480
Whatever they had just like a network, they had a live schedule, and that's what was on at any given time.
00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:23.280
And I was in a hotel room that had HBO, and so I was watching it and didn't know what it was, and and it ended up being capturing the Freedmen's, and it was this the it's about trigger warning um uh pedophilia.
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:41.840
It's about a dad who molested all his kids and lots of other kids, and one of his sons then also becoming a pedophile, and they together abused a bunch of kids, and I didn't know that's what it was.
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Like I was just in my hotel room and it was click on HBO and their documentary, and then the the way that the dad talked about it was so matter-of-fact, it made me feel sick to my stomach.
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That's why I can't watch these doc kinds of documentaries.
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Like he just his his affect was like, Yeah, and so then I did it to these kids and I did it to these kids, I did it to my own kids, and yeah, I did it.
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I did all of it.
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Like he didn't have any remorse or shame.
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Oh, can it can't be that can't be what we we gotta find something better to um uh gotta find a less.
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Now I the thing is is there's some of these are mixed in with ones I already answered.
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Um Did I mention when I talked about the food cult did I mention that um one of the things that they did was like your sponsor would yell at you and that that was a Line in the sand for me.
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And um I don't want to end on this, but um before ending on anything, I'll just say the first sponsor I had in the food cult, I was like so uh what do they call it, hanging on by a thread of like such a tightly gripped, I have to follow everything exactly.
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I can't make a mistake.
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I, you know, and I got rotiss, you were, you know, you're allowed to have four ounces of protein with your meal and barely anything else.
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And I got a rotisserie chicken, and I put a little of the broth at the bot like I measured out four ounces, and then spooned a little of the broth at the bottom of the container onto the chicken, and then was like, oh no, oh my god, what if that wasn't allowed?
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So I called my sponsor and was like, Hey, I did this, is that was that okay?
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And she yelled at me.
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And here's the kicker.
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Yes, it was allowed, but she yelled at me because I didn't ask her first and then accused me of trying to sabotage myself.
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And I very shortly after that I fired her, and then the second and last no, she wasn't that wasn't the last one, but for that first period, I did go back to the food cult in 2010, and um that was also a terrible experience.
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But the first time I was in a I think it was in 2005 and beginning of 2006.
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Nope, it was all 2006.
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Who who cares?
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But my second sponsor, after six months of sticking to this starvation food plan and answering all 170 of this these questions in this workbook, where you answer you write out the answer to one question every day, call your sponsor in the morning, read her the answer to the question every day.
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For however, and stuck to the food plan.
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I I was miserable, I was crazier than about food than I had ever been, and I was the weight I had not been since seventh grade, and I did not think I was thin.
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And I would say I am not a large person now, and at my lowest in that food cult, I was 15 pounds less than I am now, and I'm really short, so you really see it, and I still thought that I needed to lose more weight.
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Anyway, I said to her, this is right before I fired her.
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I said, um, I don't feel like I'm getting any emotional and spiritual recovery in this program.
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I had had the experience in AA for the first two, two years in AA of like going from miserable and hating sobriety to having a lot of fun, loving being sober, um, doing stand-up again and socializing more and feeling good without alcohol.
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And I was hoping that was gonna happen with food, and instead I was like miserable, and I said, I don't feel like I'm having any that recovery.
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I feel like all I I'm just it just I lost weight from it, but that's that's the only thing that it's doing.
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And she said, or I s I said something like, the only reason I'm sticking with it is because of the weight loss, and she laughed in kind of a mocking way.
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It's so and now as I'm saying that it sounds like I think everyone's making fun of me all the time, given what I've talked about this episode.
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But she laughed in kind of a mocking way and said, We're all in it for the weight loss.
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That's why we're all sticking to the food plan.
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None of us would stick to the food plan if it wasn't for that.
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And that that was when I was like, oh, this isn't about healing your relationship with food and weight and learning how to live without obsessing over food and without using food for emotional reasons.
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This is just about being thin, and that's why we're all miserable bitches.
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Everybody in it was a miserable bitch.
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If you there are lots of cities they don't even have in-person meetings for this food cult because the fellowship is so small, so you'd have to get on a phone meeting.
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And if you were leading the meeting and you missed one thing in the format, there would be an angry woman snapping at you, telling you, that's not you miss this part.
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That's not how you do that.
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That's not how we do this.
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It was like everyone was so tightly wound because of the starvation.
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And when I did it in 2010, which I only had phone meetings, there was you're also supposed to, I'm sorry.
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You're also, I'm not ending on this.
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You're also supposed to make three phone calls a day.
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I forgot about that.
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So these are the requirements.
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Starvation diet you have to stick to.
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Measure and weigh every morsel of food, and what you're allowed to have is not enough.
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That crazy food plan, answer a question in the workbook, write it out, call your sponsor, read it to her, go to three meetings a week and call three people in the program every day.
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One of these people in 2010, a woman, we're having our it's called an outreach call.
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We're having a call, and she sounded, she honestly sounded like someone had just died.
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Super sad.
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And she told me that even though she had not changed her food plan, she had started to gain weight.
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And this was because she was menopausal, as she told me.
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And her sponsor told her she had to cut out all grains, go back to not eating any grains in order to lose that weight and maintain at your goal weight.
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Rat and I said, Why can't you just exercise more?
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Well, no, my sponsor said I just have to cut out grains, and it's like your body, when you hit menopause, d actually, you know what?
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Our bodies from the time we hit puberty and for the rest of our lives, our bodies do do things without asking us what we want.
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That's just how it is.
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When you hit puberty, your body starts doing a bunch of stuff you don't like and um you can't control.
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And when you hit menopause, and what for guys too, although they don't have periods and they don't go through menopause, but they have other stuff they deal with, and aging and all that.
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And so her body, she's sticking to this fucking starvation food plan, where by the way, when you are allowed grains, it's one piece of flourless bread or half a cup of brown rice or one small corn tortilla.
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Those are the grains you're allowed to have.
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And you're only allowed to have one serving with lunch and one with dinner.
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So it's hardly any.
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Anyway, her body is like, yeah, we're shutting down the hormone factory.
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You're not, you're past the age of having kids.
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So what we do when that happens is we we slow, we make it so you gain a little weight because your bones are gonna get easier to break and you need some padding.
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I think that's what it is.
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I think that's why women tend to gain weight in menopause.
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And men gain weight when they're when they're in their 50s and 60s too, but I think mostly from beer.
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I don't know that it's hormonal.
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But her body's just doing this, she's not doing anything different with the food, and her sponsor is like, well, you have to go back to starving because it's more important that you weigh this number.
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I'm so mad.
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Okay.
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Um, let me find a um not bummer one or something else that's not a bummer.
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For the love of God.
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Let's not end on a bummer because it's I've been think talking for 50 minutes-ish.
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Okay, so I wanna f I don't wanna go over an hour.
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So I'm trying to look for something fun to end on.
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Um and it's not that's not happening.
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Uh on that.
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Um I guess I found something on threads that might be a lighthearted way to end.
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I don't know if it's interesting.
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Um again, I'm gonna go to the library and get an actual book to read and talk about on the next episode.
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Main the next main episode next week.
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This is by a user whose name's Starler underscore B U.
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I don't know who they are, and I I don't follow them, but it says movie theaters should release a pig into the theater to clean up popcorn spills, and they should let me pet the pig.
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And I'm I'm liking that and I'm sharing it.
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Um, and it reminds me, first of all, pigs are great.
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I'm gonna tell you about a couple pigs I've known.
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The first one was when I was a pet sitter in Austin in 2002.
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It was a one of the clients had two pit bulls and one giant pot-bellied pig.
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And the pig's name was Pig Newton, and he was blind.
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He was gigantic, and he was also a huge grump.
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Here's the great thing about him, though, is he couldn't he would charge.
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If he could have knocked me over or bit me, he would have because he was grumpy, but he couldn't see.
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And so they said, if he charges at you, you can either step out of the way or just hold a broom in front of you.
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And if he makes contact with the broom and feels the bristles on his face, he'll turn away.
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I don't think I ever had uh he never made uh I never had to protect myself with a broom.
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I think I might have stepped out of his way one time, but I don't even remember him charging.
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He loved fig newtons, and they named him Pig Newton.
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So if I put a couple of fig newtons in his bowl, he would let me scratch his little head.
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And by little I mean giant.
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He was a giant pot-bellied pig.
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Um, but he got along with the dogs.
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He was so cute.
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He was so cute that even though he didn't like me and was really grumpy, I couldn't resist giving him little pets when he was eating and wouldn't would let me.
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He would let me do it when he was eating Fig Newton's.
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The two pit bulls were also wonderful, and one of them had pulled a kid, a drowning kid, out of the river um in Austin or near Austin, and been in the newspaper for it.
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So please know that there are lots of good pit bulls and bull bull dog mixes out there.
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The other pig that I've known was the one that we acted with on Euphoria season three, and all of a sudden I'm blanking on her name.
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Because she was also a giant pot-bellied pig, but she was she was bigger than Pig Newton.
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She wasn't a pot-bellied pig, she was a big nor regular pig, so she was bigger than him, gigantic.
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Maple, maybe her name was Maple.
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Uh I was afraid of her when I first saw her, and then found out how gentle she was, and she was very her personality was like a dog, and just loved her.
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These the scene required the guys, Toby and James, to irritate her because in the scene they're trying to get her out of the house, and because she's shitting in the house, because Alamo has sent her as a mean prank on us.
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And they keep they're irritating, like they're kind of yelling at her and they push her a little.
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They don't hurt her, but she was making these little noises like her feelings were hurt.
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The actor, not the not part of the scene.
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This pig, her herself personally, I think her feelings were hurt by the acting she was having to do.
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And so between shots, everybody would just pet her and tell her how great she was.
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And she loved to be petted.
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And I wish I could say I have not eaten any bacon or ham since working with Maple.
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I wish I was a vegetarian.
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Haven't eaten b bacon or ham in a while.
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I kind of don't really like meat.
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Sorry to end on that, that wasn't that fun.
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Is there anything?
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Is there anything fun to end on?
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I guess.
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Oh, well, um I just happened upon I'm not gonna go back into it, but I just happened upon a video of the Montgomery Brawl.
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And again, treat yourself.
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Go on Threads or TikTok and just look it up in the search bar.
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Anyway, I'm re I'm sharing it on Threads, so if you follow me on Threads, you'll see it on my timeline.
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And my username on Threads is M Kelly ATX.
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M for Martha Kelly is my last name.
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ATX is short for Austin, Texas.
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Well, I started talking off talking about being young and dumb, and now I'm older and still dumb.
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And you know what?
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God bless America.
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So thank you for listening.
