Jeff Harman | Driven by Perception & Era of Technological Wonders & Horrors, ETs Among Us

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I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder
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and weirder. And finally, it's going to be so weird
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that people are going to have to talk about how
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weird it is. Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm
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your host, Chris Matthew. Today, my guest is Jeff Harmon.
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want to welcome back to the show Jeff Harmon. He
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is a second-generation astrologer and spiritual consultant with over 40
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years of experience. He has also solved many paranormal cases. Jeff,
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welcome back. How you doing?
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Doing good. Thanks for having me back.
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I always enjoy our discussions, and I'm looking forward to
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sharing your astrological insights about the strange time period we're
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currently navigating, as well as get your thoughts about the
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deeper metaphysical possibilities about the spiritual nature of the events
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that are unfolding. Lots to discuss here. Before we do,
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remind the audience a little bit about yourself and let
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them know how they can find more.
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Well, for years, probably over 50 years now, I've been
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doing astrology, Vedic astrology, electional astrology and interrogation. and location astrology,
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which is really fun stuff. And I also get untreated
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gemstones and set talismans for people, which is really fun.
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I have so many people I've done that for. And
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I put their angels on it and so on and
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so forth. You can see it on my website, jeff
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at jeffharmon.com. And make sure you put an A-N, not
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an O-N, on Harmon. But in my YouTube channel, it's
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Jeff Harmon Astrologer. So that's how you get through to me.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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The topics that we're discussing now that we've been talking
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about for a very long time seem to be creeping
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into the mainstream zeitgeist in a very big way. Any
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thoughts about why that's occurring now?
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Yeah. One of the things that's been happening is disclosure.
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Disclosure is clearly happening now. But it's not happening as
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fast as everybody wants, because many of the people who
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control the real information, they are so-called industrial military complex.
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So they're not regulated by the government. And even though
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Trump has said, hey, release all the documents, which the
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government is doing, but you have to sift through it.
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It's kind of like the Epstein files. You can find
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it if you've got six hours to sit there and
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page through everything. And then so much stuff is redacted.
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So there's that going on. But the other thing that
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I really think is more front, center, and stage here
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is the war between the globalists and the nationalists. A
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lot of people are very concerned about Iran, of course, Russia, Ukraine,
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and now we got Canada in the fold here. I
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just heard a report this morning that Cuba might be
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infiltrated by the Marines. In other words, they might actually
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go into Cuba, and Marco Rubio is going to go
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in there. I think we're seeing, look at Greenland just recently.
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I still say Canada is is in a fight it
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can't win. It's not going to be able to push
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the United States into a deal that it wants. I
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wouldn't be surprised if we see Alberta in the future
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here either become a territory or in some affiliation to
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the United States. All of this is really powerful because
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we had a Saturn-Neptune conjunction last February And there's something
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going on right now that's really important. I've been talking
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about it on my podcast. And that is we have
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these series of aspects between Uranus and Pluto and Neptune.
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And these are all going to be going on all
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the way into next year. This actually started this summer.
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This is very unusual energy and very powerful energy. I think, ultimately,
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it has a positive effect for the human race. Of course,
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we see the explosion in AI right now. I was
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listening to the UN speech, and I actually liked Trump's
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version of SI, which is super intelligence, because in a way,
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it is. You could call it either one. But AI
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really is taking the collective work that humanity has done
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and now being able to categorize it and organize it
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and put it together in a way that we can
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actually use it. And I'm not that afraid of AI.
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I am afraid of weaponized AI through the military, kind
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of like a Terminator movie. That is a real possibility.
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But I also think it's a good thing we had
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those movies because it's kind of giving us a warning
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of what could happen. But AI, I've been using it,
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and it's absolutely stunning. In fact, I'm working on some
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projects right now in AI that are going to be
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phenomenal in astrology that I'll be coming out with, hopefully
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by spring, maybe sooner. And it's stunning. I can take-
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my collective 50 years of Astrology Plus and organize it
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with a lot of ancient data. See, the real secrets
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to AI is what you feed it. Everybody hears about
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the LLMs, which is the large language models. But the
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small language models, that's where the secret sauce is, where
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you actually tell it and program it on how to
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think and the guidelines to go. It's like lines on
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the road when we drive. You have to guide it.
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And it's incredibly intelligent when you do. I spend about
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40 minutes prior to a personal reading for people. I'm
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marking down all their cycles, their transits, their progressions, dashes,
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et cetera, and cycles of where they live. And what's
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great about AI is it helps me organize things in
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a much faster way. I have a fun little story
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to tell. It was probably back in the late 80s,
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early 90s. I was studying with a Vedic astrologer out
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of India, Kanapriya. And what was funny about this is
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he said to me, Jeff, you must always cast a
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birth chart by hand. Always cast your charts by hand, right?
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And of course, when I started studying astrology back in
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the mid-70s, it was called BC, right? Before computers, right? So, and...
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So we would always take a piece of paper, draw
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the chart out, and put in all the planets. When
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computers came out in the late 70s, I was doing
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the Vedic astrologies. He said, Jeff, you must always cast
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chart by hand, right? Well, the first really good Vedic
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astrology program started coming out in the mid 90s to
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the late 90s, right? And I showed it to him.
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He goes, oh, my God. He said, that's so fast.
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He says, I want a copy of that. I said, oh, no, no,
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you must always cast chart by hand. And he started laughing.
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He said, no, I'd like that. That's like, do you
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want to walk to the grocery store? Now, if it's
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around the corner, yeah, that's fine. But if it's five
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miles away, you might want to take the car. Modern
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society does have its benefits. I can tell you, computers
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and AI is certainly one of them. Just like a car,
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we're going to have accidents. Things happen. People really get
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hurt in cars when they wipe out. But if we
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keep it in a corral type of way, I think
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It can really benefit humanity.
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I want to get deeper into AI in a moment,
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but I want to go back to something you said
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about there being a war between the globalists and nationalists.
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I've reached a point a long time ago, pretty jaded,
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where I don't trust any side of the political spectrum.
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I believe that all sides have been corrupted and infiltrated
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to a point where we wouldn't be able to trust
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them anyway. As far as what the globalists represent to
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you versus the nationalists, would you say globalists are more
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along the dark occultist pedophile group?
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I think where I would really characterize it is for
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all the money. It's really about control and money. My
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opinion is if you go back to... Probably the most
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market time was in 1913 going into 1914, where Woodrow
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Wilson literally sold his country, which is the United States,
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to the bankers. Now, who are they? No one really
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knows who they are. Of course, we know it as
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the Federal Reserve here in the United States. But when
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you really look at what's happening with the global financial system,
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it's clearly been run out of London and Switzerland. It
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may be run out of other places, but those are
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certainly two major places. Proof of that is there's a
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book I often recommend. It's called The Great Taking by
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David Webb. It's actually free. You can download it at
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his website. That book will scare the heck out of you.
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If you think you own the socks on your feet,
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you don't. If you think you own the chair you're
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sitting in and the car you have, you don't, even
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though we're in a structured system that says we do.
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But a whole thing is collateralized. And I mean everything.
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The whole countries are collateralized. Furthermore, when you look at
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the Bank of International Settlements, which is in Basel, Switzerland,
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there's another great book. It's called The Tower of Basel.
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Very well-researched, very well-documented books. These are not people with opinions.
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These are people We've been hedge fund owners or very
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involved with deep financing in an international basis. Essentially, what's
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going on is we have this group of bankers that
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literally borrow money to both sides of the fence when
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there's wars, and wars make money. This is why if
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we look back through history from World War I forward,
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which by the way, happened on a Saturn-Pluto conjunction. That's
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when it really got locked in very heavily here. And forward,
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of course, we had the Great Depression in 29. He
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actually speaks about that directly in The Great Taking and
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the other book, The Tower of Basel, which talks about
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the Bank of International Settlements. They speak specifically how the
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Great Depression was really caused by toppling one of the
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main New York bank chains and down it went. This
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is 1929. Well, here we are, roll the clock forward.
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Nixon took us off the gold standard in the 70s.
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That was another Saturn-Pluto conjunction. And now we roll forward
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to 2020. 2020 wasn't just COVID, even though that was
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the big thing that clearly everyone experienced. But we also
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had a Saturn-Jupiter conjunction. Now, those happen every 20 years,
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but the one that we have is called the mutation conjunction.
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And you might say, what does that mean? Well, those
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are major markers in humanity's evolution as we go along.
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They only happen about every 1,000 years in what we
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call the fire trines. And this one was a mutation.
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So it was a 240-year cycle. So we always have
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things going on, but those two elements right there really
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brought in a new era. Now, I was mentioned years ago,
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George and I were on Coast to Coast. And I
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think it was like 2011. And he said, Jeff, what
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do you think of the Mayan calendar? I said, not
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a single thing. I said, I cannot come up with
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anything that would hit the broad side of a barn
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for 2012. Remember, everybody thought, oh, my god, the world's
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going to end. And I said, no. I said, no. 220,
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that's when the page really turns. What's interesting about these
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globalists who are really the bankers, they really truly Follow astrology. Why?
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Because they strike right when it happens. 9-11 happened on
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a Saturn-Pluto opposition. Without getting into conspiracy on that, we
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all know buildings don't come down like sparklers from a
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jet fuel. If people think so, they should take a
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physics class. But I know we saw it on the cameras,
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but that is impossible from Jetfield. And that was a
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Saturn-Pluto opposition. So if you go back through history, you'll
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find major change points always parallel these astrological outer planet
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transits and various different alignments. So we're in one right
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now that I actually think is quite positive. And even
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though we've got a lot of trouble going on right now,
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The owners at the top of the pyramid don't want
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what's happening. And this is why you're seeing the resistance
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in Iran. Iran, I said this last spring, I said,
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I don't see this war going on much more than
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a number of weeks. And it really hasn't. I mean,
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when you think about it, the US military took out
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pretty much everything that's in Iran. OK, there's been a
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few missiles fired. There's been a few drones fired. A
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couple of tankers caught on fire. But if you really look,
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what's happened is it's just been skirmishes suppressing them and
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squeezing them. This hasn't been a war. We don't have
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any boots on the ground. I mean, they call it
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a war. OK, fine. But it's really, in my opinion,
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not like any of the other wars we fought. It's
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basically go in, tactically hit them, and strangle them financially.
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So what this really is, is it all dovetails back
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to World War I, in my opinion. Why? The Ottoman
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Empire was destroyed, and all the financial structures were changed,
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and Germany, again, was right behind this. This is when
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the Middle East lines got drawn. Before that, Ancient Iran
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was Persia. That was it. And you didn't have Iraq
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and Syria and Iran and all these different countries named
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like they are now in Jordan. They were provinces. You
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had Palestine, the Holy Land, and Egypt. That's all you
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had before World War I. Look it up. It's on maps. Now,
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there were provinces, no question, but not like it is now.
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They redrew the lines on the map. That's what the
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movie Lawrence of Arabia was all about. The British went in,
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and they established them. So here's where I'm going. I
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think the game is changing. Now, everybody hates Trump, right?
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But what he's doing is he's actually bringing back manufacturing.
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And more importantly, he's changing the game. Besant and that administration,
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in my opinion, are changing something that is very dangerous.
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We're about to see the outcome of this. And that
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is putting the US Treasury back in charge of printing
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its own money. I think it was Thomas Jefferson or
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George Washington, one of them had said, if anyone ever
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gets to print our money, they will be more dangerous
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than any standing army. That's exactly what happened in World
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War I. Right at the turn of 1913 into 1914,
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that's when World War I began, this is when the
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Federal Reserve Act was rubber-stamped in, signed into law by
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President Wilson. From that point forward, George Conlon was right.
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Forget the politicians, because you have owners. They own everything.
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And they literally control, it's the bankers at the top
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of the pyramid. Now, back to what you were saying. Yes,
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it does seem like there's some very demonic energy intertwined
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with some of them. I wouldn't say all of them,
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but some of them. We hear the child trafficking, sacrificing crap.
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This is nothing different than Baal. The sacrifices to Baal
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back in the Holy Land, a couple thousand years back,
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they were talking about all that. And there is a
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satanic energy. with this power and control and sexual craziness.
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So I think right now we're seeing massive changes. And
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I think it's going to take until next summer before
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they are fully in place and starting to head in
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new directions. But we're seeing the financial structures be changed.
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One of the major concerns that many have about this
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administration and some of the agendas that are coming down
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the pipe is their relationship with the tech bros, PayPal mafia,
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people like Peter Thiel, and this emerging surveillance technocratic system
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that may include some kind of law enforcement and governance
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because he is so involved with.
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I think that's an inevitability. I don't know how you
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can stop it, no matter who is in there. Society
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is marching this way with AI technology. And I mean,
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things are... floating right now this is what i said
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from 2020 forward we are going to see an explosion
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of technology and it's not going to stop it's going
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to get like the jetsons and star wars.
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Well you don't think that we would have any control
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by what we support if we decide to reject some
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of the anti-human technology it could go in better directions.
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It could yeah i would hope it would But when
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you look at that, again, I go right back to
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one thing, the money. I think it was Rothschild said
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it best. He said, you give me control of the money,
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and I care not who makes the laws. Because it's
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all about money. And you talk about Peter Thiel. I've
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heard a lot of people complain about some of the
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things that Trump is doing in this administration. Clearly, it's
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all about money. And it always has been. I mean,
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when you look back throughout history, it's always been about money.
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It's always been about power, control, and money. And the
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United States is in a unique situation, because whoever these
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bankers really are behind the scenes, we're basically burning our
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own money. And this is why the $ 40 trillion in
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debt plus is, I think, manufactured. It's clearly a very
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complex network. And it's very sophisticated. I mean, there's a
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lot of people who know a lot more than I
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do about finances. But everything I've heard, it is collateralized.
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And the great taking speaks to that. So what's happening here,
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if you keep a country in debt, That's what the
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bankers want. You'll own nothing. You'll be happy. And we'll
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give you money. Everything will be free. See, that's what
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they want. They want free everything. They'll tell you, well,
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you're not going to pay your rent, you don't have
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to do anything. We'll take care of it all, health care, everything.
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That's a very dangerous thing. That's communism. That's exactly what
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it is. where capitalism, and we see this right now
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with this midterm elections, we're seeing the same polarization between, oh,
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we want to give everybody everything and free, and the
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other ones, no, we want to keep a capitalist society.
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But at the top of the pyramid, You've got the
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bankers shoveling money into the machine. It's a huge, gigantic
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machine when you look at Western society, not just the
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United States. You look at the billions and trillions that
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are changing hands literally on a monthly basis, it's staggering.
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It's all about that power of money. If you get
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a country to be generative and generating its own money,
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and it doesn't need bankers, well, guess what? That's what
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they don't want. There was actually a report. There was
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a report called the Iron Mountain Report. There's been several
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of these that have surfaced. And they basically say they
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want to keep a country in debt. In fact, one
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of the ways to destroy a sovereign society is to
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get it in uncontrollable debt, uncontrollable bureaucracy, and the final
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one is flood the borders, just dilute the culture. Does
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that sound familiar? That's exactly what's been happening since the
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Saturn-Pluto conjunction in 2020 to Western society in general. Look
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at Europe. Look at the United States. Look at Australia.
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So many other places. Just flooding. I know I talk
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to clients all over the world, and they all say
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it's happening. And it's diluting society. What's a blessing? I
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always say divinity always puts a failsafe in. And again,
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there's a lot of people that don't like that Trump's
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involved with Peter Thiel and many others. I've heard a
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lot of talk about that. But I don't know if
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you took Trump out of the equation, it would stop anyhow.
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Even if it is inevitable, which the explosion in technology
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and AI is inevitable, I do think we have control
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over the overall direction that it's headed. But I don't
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think anybody wants this global surveillance law enforcement governance system
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done by AI. There's no humanity in it. Right now,
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we still have a chance to talk to a police
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officer as a human and have some kind of emotional
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response from them. If we are governed by AI and
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we're subjected to law enforcement by algorithms, basically, there's no
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more human interaction.
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Touch.
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There's no more emotional advantage for us. I don't see
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how that would be anything other than a dystopia if
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it keeps going the way it's going.
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I agree. I agree 100%. See, now, you might say, well,
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when might something like that really come in? And the
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astrology shows that by 2028, we get the first Saturn-Pluto square.
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And see, I always have to say, I really love
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Vedic astrology, but I cannot believe how accurate the outer
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transit planets are. Just using sidereal or tropical astrology, it
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doesn't matter which one you use. Though I have found
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in mundane things, meaning like 9-11 and various different events, COVID,
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the tropical zodiac has been by far the most accurate
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as to when it became manifest in society. And what's
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interesting is the next one we have, see the conjunctions
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of a planet, they only happen every so many, well,
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Saturn-Fluid was about 38 years. It's not exact. It's somewhere
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around there. Somewhere between 38 and maybe a little more,
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a little less on average. So the next point is
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the square. Then you'll go to the opposition. Well, just
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to give you an idea of The Saturn-Pluto opposition was 9-11,
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the last one we had. The last square was the
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bank crash in 2008. If we go backwards, the last
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Saturn-Pluto conjunction, I forget when that was, but it Well,
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COVID was probably the best example that will be fresh
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in everyone's mind. So these are powerful. Well, 2028 is
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the next Saturn-Pluto square. Then we go to the opposition
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here in about probably another, I think, 8 to 10 years.
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And I don't have the dates in front of me.
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But the next Saturn-Pluto conjunction is in the 2050s. Now,
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everybody might go, wow, that's a long ways away. Yes,
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it is, but not that far. It's only about 25 years.
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To young people, that's right around the corner. I mean, yeah,
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25 years takes a long time to go by, not
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that long. And I look at my own life, and
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I can't believe how many years pass by when we
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don't really pay attention to it. And I can tell
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you that is a marker point when a dystopian AI
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society could happen. And I don't know that anything is
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going to stop it.
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Something else that is unfolding as we speak that's very
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concerning is the division between humans and specifically between men
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and women. Anytime you look online, they have feminists talking
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about how horrible men are, and then men don't even
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want to pursue women anymore. That affects the population.
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Yeah. Well, these forces have been at work, I think,
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throughout humanity. I mean, when you look back, you know,
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it's always been active. It's a real demonic force. When
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you think about it, there's an old saying, first, you
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have prosperity, then you have recessions, then you have depressions,
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and then you have war. Now, that model has been
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broken up a little bit. One of the ways that
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you bring society under control without having massive wars is
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to get them all in dissension. And this is what's
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going on. It's not only happening between men and women,
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but you're seeing even the mind control on sexuality in
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terms of who you are. Now, there's nothing wrong with that.
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I know a lot of people who have that proclivity
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to go one way or another, just they're born that way,
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and they had to hide it. So society is at
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least becoming more accepted to that, which I think is fine.
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But we're seeing other forces come in that are constantly
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degrading humanity's self-worth. And this is very coupled to AI.
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I would have to say, no matter what, I always
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say this, we got to remember, no matter how crazy
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it gets, we're all spiritual beings having a physical experience.
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I always go there because when you really look at
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who we are, we are not ever going to be
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like AI. We are emotional, spiritual, responsive beings. and we're
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living in genetic, organic bodies. We're not going to be
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a machine. The world has always sought to downplay that.
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It's always about taxes and getting the status and money
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and all that, which there's nothing wrong with that. But
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so I think what's happening is humanity, if it can
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learn to look within and find inner peace on who
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we are. You know, I always say I love the
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human race. It's just the people that irritate me. And
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when you look at creation, it's divine. I mean, just
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look at it. creation, I don't care if it's the ocean,
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the fish, the birds, whatever you want, the sky, the clouds,
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if you can find them without chemtrails. But you see,
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there's my point. There's always been these forces that have
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been trying to tear down and destroy humanity. Now we
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get into really what I think is going on. There are,
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I believe, extraterrestrial and terrestrial beings that have been here
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and have been coming here forever. And there's no question,
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this is Part of what Disclosure is about, if anybody's
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not seen the documentary, The Age of Disclosure, I highly
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recommend it. It's amazing. Because you don't just have a
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bunch of people out there going, well, I've just seen
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a UFO. No, you've got scientists. You have engineers. You
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have politicians and military people all coming forward saying, look,
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This is not a theory anymore, folks. We are not alone.
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And this is coming out more and more and more.
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And I think this also has a lot to do
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with the astrology that's happening between now and next year. Now,
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a lot of people say, well, when these aspects happen,
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everything's supposed to be utopia. No, they're marker points that
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open up gates of consciousness. So I see one of
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the things I love is if you look at the
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model of creation, I always show this on my website.
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We can't do it right now because of the internet
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connection we've got, but I show this model of divinity
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and then the first worlds where souls are created. It's
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way above astrology. They actually say there's 49 dimensions and
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49 sub-dimensions in that very divine high, what we would
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call heaven, it's ruled by very divine angels. They're also
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known on the tree of life as the phantom. The seraphim,
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the cherubims, and the thrones, and the ark. And then
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the next world's down is where many advanced souls come
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back to or descend down. And then there's what we
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call the creational force. Now, there's an ancient Hebrew text
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called the Sefer Yetzirah. Sefer means book. Yetzirah means form. Now,
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we go back into a lot of the things that
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are mentioned in the Bible, as well as the Bhagavad Gita,
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the Egyptian, the Chaldean, the Babylonian, and Greek, and many
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other texts where there was a war in heaven. And
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the evil spirits were cast down. that many people in
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the Western religion will remember the Garden of Eden story.
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And there's a specific statement in there I always go to.
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Adam and Eve noticed they were closed. Well, that doesn't
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mean there were fig leaves over the private parts. What
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it means is they were closed in bodies. So what's
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interesting to me about that is in physics, quantum physics,
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theoretical physics, and many other models that are coming out
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right now, The entire physical universes, and we could rightly
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say multiverses, if you look at, what is it? Well,
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the scientists have come back, well, it's amino acids, it's
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this and that, it's gamma rays, and all of it
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is energy. And a lot, we don't even know how
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to measure. Though I credit science, they're coming up with
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a lot of different ways to measure things. but they're
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seeing all these amino gas clouds and rotating galaxies. It's
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all energy. And what is energy? Well, if you break
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it down small enough, so far we know that they're atoms, right?
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Positive and negative charges. Well, here's the theory. The evil
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spirits might have been forced into causing the physical realms
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of creation. In fact, this is actually talked about in
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many of the old Kabbalistic texts and Vedantic and Tibetan texts,
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which are pretty interesting Buddhist texts, which is literally this
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whole physical world. See, they say when we're conceived in
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mom's womb, the mother prepares a garment for the soul.
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And that garment is what we're sitting in, our bodies.
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And what's fascinating is that period of gestation, I think
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if you watch on my website, many others talk about this,
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the incredible genetics that happens when an animal, child, or
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any living thing is conceived. That's all this stuff going on,
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building the spine and all the connective tissues and nervous system.
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It's beyond incredible. It's, to me, one of the most
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amazing things in creation to look at. Well, here's the point.
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When we exit mom's womb and the umbilical cord is cut,
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we're knocked out. We all got this little mark right here.
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We're knocked out. Now, we're living in a conscious. The
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conscious mind is actually an attenuator, meaning it actually dumbs
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us down. We can't access who we are as the
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upper portions of the soul. Now, some people can, some
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people are very psychic and intuitive, old souls, they call them,
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but we're knocked out. And the little baby in the
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00:32:36.460 --> 00:32:41.190
crib can't walk, can't talk, they can't even see right away.
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They say it takes a finite amount of days. What
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that is, I don't know. But what's interesting is now
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we're getting wired to our sight, to our bodies. We're
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learning how to walk and have dexterity. And of course,
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we see the same thing leading us when we get old.
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It's like Benjamin Button. You can come in early or late.
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But the bottom line is we get wired. And what's
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fascinating to me, there was a lady I had on
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my podcast a while back. Her name was Laura Hirsch.
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And her son was amazing, Trevor. And he is autistic.
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And you may have heard of the telepathy tapes. I
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00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:25.190
mentioned these a lot. The telepathy tapes are stunning. And
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00:33:25.490 --> 00:33:30.789
this doctor figured out how to get... A device, very simple.
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It's called spelling to speech. So what does it mean?
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It means these autistic children can learn to talk through
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this device like we do because they didn't develop their
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brains the same way we did. Well, here's what they're
529
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finding out. We think we're so smart. These kids can
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read minds. They can talk to animals. In fact, when
531
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she was on the podcast, she mentioned her son, Trevor,
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was at an equine center riding horses. And the horse
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told him, that his best friend had just died six
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months ago. Well, Trevor had only been going a few months,
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so he told his mother that through spelling to speak.
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His mother went back to the equine center and says,
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was there a horse named such and such that died
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about six months? Oh, yeah, yeah, they were inseparable. They
539
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were in the same stall together. And here's what's interesting.
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The horse told Trevor, the autistic child that can't speak normally,
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the name of the horse that the humans gave. You
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think about this, our minds, and this goes full circle
543
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:34.429
back to the fear right now, fear of AI, fear
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00:34:34.469 --> 00:34:36.739
of war, fear of this, fear of that. Fear is
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one of the most damaging emotions. Now, there's nothing wrong
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00:34:41.489 --> 00:34:43.869
with fear from the standpoint if you're going to hit
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00:34:43.929 --> 00:34:47.150
a car, good to fear that, and other things that
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protect us. But fear is a very debilitating emotion. And
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00:34:51.969 --> 00:34:55.460
the mind control that's going on, George Carlin was right.
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They beat us over the head every day with a
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club telling us what to believe. And the internet has
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a lot of great stuff on it, but also has
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a lot of disinformation. So we need always to develop
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our powers of critical thinking and discernment. And the more
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we study the lower conscious mind, which is really what's
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forming when a child is born, we're knocked out. We're
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literally knocked out. And as we evolve, we all go
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to school, right? Learn our programming, the bell rings, get up,
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go here, bell rings, sit down. So it's like programming
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this whole world. And some of it's okay. But if
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you look at even Hollywood, which is now crumbling and
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redesigning itself, it's a propaganda machine. Not that there hasn't
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00:35:45.130 --> 00:35:49.630
been some wonderful movies. But in general, the news and
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society itself is a mind control propaganda machine. And now,
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full circle, you go back to the bankers at the
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top of the pyramid, they've got a monopoly. They're literally
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shoveling money into all these different countries. In that book,
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I mentioned the Tower of Basel, which is about the
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Bank of International Settlements. They literally have people sitting at
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the table who are at war with each other. Wow,
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we need money. We got to fight these guys. OK,
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here's your money. Here's your money. And they borrow money
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from both sides of the war. I think it was
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Rothschild's book. He said, I make more in one day
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of war than I do in a year apiece. And
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war makes money. You know who the biggest arms dealer
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in the world is? The United States President. They sell
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arms to everybody. So I mean, when you think about it,
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I mean, the United States manufactures so much weaponry. and
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new and unique ways to kill people. The problem is
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if you don't have that, you would get infiltrated. You
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hear about what the Romans did, and human nature hasn't
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changed a hell of a lot since then. They would
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go in and sack a city, take the men, women,
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and children, and kill them. or take the women and
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the money. And it's interesting. I've been studying astrology for
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a long time to see how astrology in some of
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the historical documents show these wars and how brutal societies
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00:37:23.340 --> 00:37:27.480
have been subjected to warring armies. And when you think
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about it, Humanity itself, you always go back to the
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movie Terminator. I always loved the writing that James Cameron did,
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particularly in Terminator 2. That was one of my favorite
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movies because they really had it down. Where little John
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Connor was watching these two kids bang, bang with guns.
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The Terminator, Schwarzenegger's character said, it's in your nature to
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kill each other or to destroy yourselves. And this is
597
00:38:00.650 --> 00:38:07.440
interesting because in DNA and incarnation, we form in mom's womb.
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There are forces of good and evil. In fact, astrology
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00:38:12.070 --> 00:38:17.369
shows it. I calculate angels that I put on people's pendants.
600
00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:22.199
which are mind-blowing, because you literally take the inner seven
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00:38:22.260 --> 00:38:25.219
planets in a person's birth chart, and you find that
602
00:38:25.340 --> 00:38:29.320
exact sidereal degree, and you reduce that to a letter.
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00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:31.699
It's a whole formula you got to use, and I
604
00:38:31.739 --> 00:38:34.739
didn't come up with it. This is ancient knowledge. And
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00:38:35.139 --> 00:38:40.130
you order them, and you can actually find ancient codes.
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They're called ciphers in the Bible and in the writings
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and the Psalms that are connected to your soul. And
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the religions have done little to shed light on that.
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You know, Rome, when they did the Vulgate translations, I
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think they destroyed all the old Aramaic, Hebrew, and Coptic
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ciphers that were in the original text. Can't make this
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stuff up. In the Psalms, there's codes that literally equal
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angel names.
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I want to go back for a moment to disclosure.
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I question any narrative, all information that comes from the government,
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our mainstream media. I wonder if part of UFO disclosure
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is to establish the new invisible enemy. so that daddy
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government will be able to protect us from it. I
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00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:39.420
know there's multiple layers to this, including the genuine phenomena
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that people experience with abductions and contact and UFOs, but
621
00:39:43.389 --> 00:39:48.840
there's also a military industrial layer that That includes military abductions,
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exotic technology, reverse engineering, and all kinds of nefarious things.
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So it's difficult to gauge where this is coming from.
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00:39:57.690 --> 00:39:59.750
What do you think is the driving force?
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00:40:00.809 --> 00:40:02.969
Well, I don't know. I don't have a snappy answer
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00:40:02.989 --> 00:40:04.869
to that one. The only thing I can tell you
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is I think we definitely, it might be a lot
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more like Men in Black than we know in some
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of the more secret layers. There's stuff going on. I've
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seen it since the 70s, even the 60s, where reverse
631
00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:24.190
engineered craft, I used to track them. In fact, I
632
00:40:24.230 --> 00:40:27.010
had a guy on my, I can't remember his name now,
633
00:40:27.170 --> 00:40:30.530
I think his name is Peter Stark. He was on
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00:40:30.550 --> 00:40:34.630
my podcast, and he showed all these reverse engineered crap
635
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that the US government has, and many of the other
636
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countries have them as well. And for some reason, you
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would say, we just had Xi and Trump meet today.
638
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:46.800
You would say, why don't we see more of this? Well,
639
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we kind of do. So many people report Kraft and some, oh,
640
00:40:51.719 --> 00:40:54.400
they're just drones. Swamp gas from Venus. That's another one
641
00:40:54.420 --> 00:40:58.139
they used to use. Remember that one? And there's so
642
00:40:58.179 --> 00:41:01.909
much phenomena going on here. I have had vehicles shut down.
643
00:41:01.929 --> 00:41:06.480
I had a motorcycle completely shut down. Electricity went out.
644
00:41:06.570 --> 00:41:11.630
It's like 1976. Yeah, and it wouldn't start. And we
645
00:41:11.670 --> 00:41:14.420
noticed a craft up above. And in fact, I had
646
00:41:14.460 --> 00:41:18.659
seen one earlier that night. And I used to track
647
00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:21.079
them out. I lived in northern Wisconsin, and I would
648
00:41:21.099 --> 00:41:25.489
see them all over the place. And very interesting. Some
649
00:41:25.510 --> 00:41:27.550
of the shapes that these were, a lot of people
650
00:41:27.590 --> 00:41:31.309
talk about the footballs, the cigar shapes, the triangular craft.
651
00:41:31.710 --> 00:41:34.690
And I saw so many of those. And I've seen
652
00:41:34.969 --> 00:41:39.210
so many crafts, even just recently. I mean, I was
653
00:41:39.289 --> 00:41:42.320
out in Malibu here about probably two years ago, and
654
00:41:42.429 --> 00:41:45.579
I saw this cylinder right along the PCH as I
655
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:48.320
was riding on a motorcycle. And I've never seen anything
656
00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:51.400
like it. It was like sticking down. It was this
657
00:41:51.539 --> 00:41:54.820
really unusual craft. So there is so much going on here.
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And I really think Admiral Byrd, of course, is one example.
659
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He was the admiral who was financed by the United
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States government to go down into Antarctica. The stuff he
661
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:12.380
saw was amazing. Many of the scientists were just dumbfounded.
662
00:42:12.420 --> 00:42:15.300
They couldn't believe the stuff that they saw. There was
663
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:18.719
a lot of silencing around that. There's so much attention
664
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put on Antarctica, a lot going on down there. The
665
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word was that Admiral Byrd was forced down with his
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squadron and told by these beings who live in the
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inner earth that, look, we now know you have nuclear weapons.
668
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We watch you blow one off over there in Japan
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and do all your tests. And if you ever do
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an all-out nuclear exchange, we'll stop it. And people say, OK,
671
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:45.730
that sounds hopeful. But it's true. I actually did a
672
00:42:45.809 --> 00:42:48.630
study with astrology to see if we could see any
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alignments with remote viewing and various phenomena that had happened
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with abductions. And one of the things that came across
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my desk was the Minot Air Force Base, where the
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generals or commanders in there, whichever rank they were, had said,
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we had light orbs around certain missile installations and other
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things that they had. They said afterwards, everything stopped working.
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Circuit boards were blown out, they had to replace a
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lot of the equipment. There's been many stories where there's
681
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been crap that had landed in nuclear facilities in Europe
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and here that were part of the United States, and
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they were shut down right afterwards. There's no question we
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are not alone, in my opinion. Also, I really believe
685
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it's kept exceedingly secret And the other thing I got
686
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to go back to, we still have demonic forces. And
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I think we have beings jumping dimensions. You know, I
688
00:43:49.090 --> 00:43:52.429
used to tell this story. There was a, I think
689
00:43:52.469 --> 00:43:57.050
it was like 1974, 75. I'm walking down this road
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in northern Wisconsin, going up to a friend of mine's house.
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And we live way out in the woods. So everything
692
00:44:02.590 --> 00:44:04.679
was half mile away, just to get to anybody, right?
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00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:08.610
So I'm walking down this road, and it was dusk,
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and it was kind of melted snow. It was right
695
00:44:12.070 --> 00:44:14.989
in the springtime. And I heard a crunch, and I
696
00:44:15.070 --> 00:44:17.829
looked over, and I saw this huge guy. I mean,
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he had to be eight and a half feet tall,
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maybe taller, maybe around. Oh, he's huge. And clearly, people said, Bigfoot. Well,
699
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:27.739
that's kind of what he looked like to me. Very
700
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large guy, and had white on. Couldn't really make it out. Well,
701
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we both stood there for a second, and he was
702
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quite a distance, probably about maybe 100 yards. He took
703
00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:41.739
off running so fast, and he ended up going into
704
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this thicket across the road. There's no way, I don't
705
00:44:45.980 --> 00:44:47.820
think you could have got a mouse to go through
706
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there without making a sound. And he didn't make any sound. Well, later,
707
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I've been hearing from a lot of folks, they had
708
00:44:56.280 --> 00:45:00.280
similar experiences, and And they see portals open, and these
709
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people go dimensionally through them. So this is my point.
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We have a reality structure we all live in. And
711
00:45:08.070 --> 00:45:12.699
it's very real. Drop something on your foot. It's very real.
712
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:14.940
Don't pay your bills for the month. You'll find out
713
00:45:14.980 --> 00:45:19.019
how real this reality structure is, right? So we're all
714
00:45:19.099 --> 00:45:22.500
living in this perception of reality, which is very real.
715
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:27.679
But there's other dimensional realities right around us. We only
716
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see with the visual spectrum of the eyes, which is
717
00:45:31.070 --> 00:45:33.670
actually really narrow. We can't see infrared. We can't see
718
00:45:34.250 --> 00:45:37.469
past the visual spectrum of light. Same thing with audibility.
719
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While we're in the realms of high strangeness and possible
720
00:45:42.190 --> 00:45:47.130
non-human entities, I heard you discuss an encounter where you
721
00:45:47.210 --> 00:45:51.710
saw someone's hand shift into a claw. Is that right?
722
00:45:53.489 --> 00:45:57.349
Yeah, I did. Yeah, and I've actually seen people shaped it. Yeah, well,
723
00:45:57.369 --> 00:46:00.489
we were studying an ancient text. It was an old
724
00:46:00.590 --> 00:46:05.110
Aramaic Hebrew text, and the gentleman knew that very well. And,
725
00:46:05.170 --> 00:46:06.449
you know, I don't want to get blamed for any
726
00:46:06.510 --> 00:46:10.239
anti-Semitism thing, but... I really liked the guy, too. But
727
00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:14.780
I saw his hand shift into a claw. And I thought, OK, that's,
728
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:19.670
you know, just my imagination. Except he noticed that I noticed.
729
00:46:19.949 --> 00:46:22.329
And then he took his hand and he put it
730
00:46:22.389 --> 00:46:23.150
under the table.
731
00:46:23.610 --> 00:46:25.369
Did it have five fingers or less?
732
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You know, that's a good question. I cannot remember. I
733
00:46:30.949 --> 00:46:34.480
think it just shifted into a five finger claw like look.
734
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:38.079
It was almost like a werewolf type of look. Wow.
735
00:46:39.019 --> 00:46:41.539
Now we get down the rabbit hole. And see, this
736
00:46:41.619 --> 00:46:45.420
is the thing. We hear these rumors, like David Icke.
737
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:47.059
A lot of people go, oh, David Icke, he's crazy.
738
00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:50.239
I met David many years ago, probably about 30 years ago.
739
00:46:50.300 --> 00:46:52.679
And I think a lot of the things that he's
740
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:58.489
saying is absolutely being proven right now. Princess Diana. These people,
741
00:46:58.510 --> 00:47:01.710
they don't seem human. And we hear this a lot.
742
00:47:02.579 --> 00:47:05.579
So we do not just have extraterrestrials, we have demonic
743
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:09.849
forces here, but People always have to remember you have
744
00:47:09.909 --> 00:47:13.530
angelic forces. And believe me, you and I would not
745
00:47:13.570 --> 00:47:16.750
be drawing breath, and nor would anyone else, if the
746
00:47:16.789 --> 00:47:23.170
divinity wasn't shining down. The Vedas actually mention people underground.
747
00:47:23.230 --> 00:47:26.760
There's all kinds of texts in the Vedas, the Upanishads,
748
00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:30.840
and one in particular is the Mahabharata. Absolutely amazing. It
749
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:36.780
talks about these reptilian people underground. And it specifically talks
750
00:47:36.820 --> 00:47:40.480
about kingdoms and different hierarchies. And I'm like, wow, this
751
00:47:40.590 --> 00:47:45.690
is really wild. And what's fascinating to me is how
752
00:47:45.710 --> 00:47:47.949
this is kept secret. You know, you hear about the
753
00:47:47.989 --> 00:47:51.750
Tartarian stuff. You also hear the rumors that some of
754
00:47:51.789 --> 00:47:55.360
these cities and buildings are much older than they tell
755
00:47:55.420 --> 00:47:58.940
us they are. Particularly in some of your, like San
756
00:47:58.980 --> 00:48:03.610
Francisco and New York and Washington. So there's definitely a
757
00:48:03.710 --> 00:48:07.489
reality structure here going on that's a lot different than
758
00:48:07.530 --> 00:48:12.550
we're told to buy. Not that I don't believe that
759
00:48:12.570 --> 00:48:15.170
there wasn't states coaches and horses and all that, but
760
00:48:15.190 --> 00:48:19.130
there's different timelines and parallels. And when you look at reality,
761
00:48:20.369 --> 00:48:26.860
it's really interesting because our perception is our reality. And
762
00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:31.760
I think there are compartmentalized realities that are parallel and
763
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:34.519
going on. And proof of that is there's a lot
764
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of people who research that. Carl Jung was one of them.
765
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The other one that I met a long time ago
766
00:48:41.099 --> 00:48:43.059
was Dr. John Mack. I don't know if you've ever
767
00:48:43.099 --> 00:48:45.739
heard of him. He's an interesting guy. He was a psychiatrist.
768
00:48:46.469 --> 00:48:49.309
And we sat out in Malibu. He was staying at
769
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a place that Frank Lloyd Wright had designed up on
770
00:48:53.219 --> 00:48:57.460
Tayuma Road. It's overlooking the city of Malibu, or the
771
00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:04.230
little township of Malibu. And interesting conversation, because he was
772
00:49:04.369 --> 00:49:07.010
really a nice guy and a very intelligent guy. And
773
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he said, you know, I don't believe these people claiming
774
00:49:11.469 --> 00:49:15.909
abductions are lying. He said, I've tested them on psychosis
775
00:49:15.989 --> 00:49:19.869
and all these different modalities that he could come up with.
776
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:23.159
using a psychiatric model. He said, these people aren't crazy.
777
00:49:23.300 --> 00:49:27.019
They're telling, they believe what they are saying. And his
778
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:31.010
opinion was, they're telling the truth. So he did notice
779
00:49:31.050 --> 00:49:34.730
a few were more paranoid, et cetera. And then there's
780
00:49:34.809 --> 00:49:40.170
many other people who come along and verify this actually physically. Dr.
781
00:49:40.289 --> 00:49:43.570
Lear was another one. I knew Dr.
782
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Lear.
783
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He was a really nice guy. Him and Lynn Buchanan,
784
00:49:47.469 --> 00:49:51.460
we used to hang out up at Denny's. It was
785
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:54.880
the MUFON meetings that we went to up at Denny's.
786
00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:58.760
I forget what lodge it was, but it was so
787
00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:01.610
long ago, it was like 25, 30 years ago. And Dr.
788
00:50:01.710 --> 00:50:05.869
Lear was a surgeon who was approached by people who
789
00:50:06.050 --> 00:50:09.400
had had lumps or things in various places of their body,
790
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and he would do surgery on them and take out
791
00:50:13.170 --> 00:50:17.380
literally implants. He'd send them to a lab and get
792
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:21.300
back data on this that was very scientific and provable
793
00:50:21.380 --> 00:50:25.079
that these are devices that we don't know how to make,
794
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and they couldn't understand what they did. And this has
795
00:50:28.869 --> 00:50:33.389
been verified by many others. And I hear stories about
796
00:50:33.449 --> 00:50:36.650
underground labs. This is so far removed from the average
797
00:50:36.730 --> 00:50:40.550
reality of most people, because we're all living in our
798
00:50:40.590 --> 00:50:44.840
perception of reality. And it's interesting, you see that the
799
00:50:45.260 --> 00:50:50.920
dining room table at holidays where people in your family
800
00:50:51.079 --> 00:50:56.900
will be so polarized in police systems, on politics. and
801
00:50:57.019 --> 00:51:02.090
whatever news channel they listen to. The conscious mind is
802
00:51:02.429 --> 00:51:05.829
really good for us to step out of and just
803
00:51:06.449 --> 00:51:10.610
question our own belief systems, because we all have them.
804
00:51:11.070 --> 00:51:13.949
You see people getting into fights over it, literally, physically.
805
00:51:14.380 --> 00:51:17.340
It's like road rage. He went in front of me.
806
00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:24.219
It's really interesting to look at our psychology Again, remember
807
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:28.570
that the five senses we have as Incredibles, they're very limited.
808
00:51:30.090 --> 00:51:32.789
I think some of these subjects touch on that. Then
809
00:51:32.849 --> 00:51:36.550
when we get back into what's the forces really driving
810
00:51:36.590 --> 00:51:41.869
the pyramids of control in this world? I think there's
811
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a lot of demonic forces that intertwine with these people,
812
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but I also think they can't go too far. And
813
00:51:48.030 --> 00:51:51.340
that proves divinity. In fact, the Vedas talk about this.
814
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They say there's always fail-safes that God or divinity brings
815
00:51:55.780 --> 00:52:00.679
into reality to keep it from completely imploding, though it
816
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:02.900
could implode at times. I mean, look at the wars
817
00:52:02.980 --> 00:52:06.170
and the things that go on. The Vedas actually say
818
00:52:06.849 --> 00:52:09.750
that all the universes, and I don't know if it's
819
00:52:09.789 --> 00:52:13.050
at the same time frame, they get destroyed about every 4.3
820
00:52:13.050 --> 00:52:17.389
to 4.6 billion years. And then it never stops. It
821
00:52:17.429 --> 00:52:22.500
just recreates, just keeps going. The gas clouds and all
822
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:27.440
the raining down of creation and souls never stops, according
823
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:29.900
to that. What is time? I mean, you think about
824
00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:32.219
the whole elements of time. We don't even know what
825
00:52:32.260 --> 00:52:36.170
time is. The only reason we have time that's structured
826
00:52:36.389 --> 00:52:38.809
is because every day we see the sunrise, we see
827
00:52:38.829 --> 00:52:40.690
it accumulate, we see it set, we see it go
828
00:52:40.710 --> 00:52:44.769
to midnight. And science will tell you, we can measure
829
00:52:44.809 --> 00:52:49.059
that right down to a picosecond or a nanosecond. And
830
00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:54.920
so all measurements are celestial based when you think about it. Everything,
831
00:52:55.760 --> 00:52:59.519
a day, a month, a year, a millennium, they're all
832
00:52:59.619 --> 00:53:03.559
based on celestial aspects. And this is why we have
833
00:53:03.659 --> 00:53:09.250
leap years, is because the calendars don't match. Exactly the,
834
00:53:10.090 --> 00:53:14.369
you could say, astronomical matrix that we're in. And that's
835
00:53:14.469 --> 00:53:18.679
really what astronomy is, or astrology. It is an astronomical
836
00:53:19.219 --> 00:53:23.679
matrix of time. Earth is a time machine. It really is.
837
00:53:23.739 --> 00:53:25.139
It's absolutely a time machine.
838
00:53:26.219 --> 00:53:32.300
You mentioned demons and psychology. I've studied MKUltra a bit.
839
00:53:32.340 --> 00:53:38.320
I've had many MKUltra survivors interviewed on this show. These
840
00:53:38.429 --> 00:53:44.719
groups were intertwining dark occult beliefs with their understanding of
841
00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:50.239
human psychology and mind manipulation. Some of the victims were
842
00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:56.320
even intentionally possessed by some of the rituals that they're doing. Well,
843
00:53:56.360 --> 00:53:59.800
you fast forward to today, I think all the experimentation
844
00:53:59.880 --> 00:54:04.269
from MKUltra was used so that they can have... an
845
00:54:04.349 --> 00:54:10.610
understanding of human psychology beyond anything imaginable, and the means
846
00:54:10.769 --> 00:54:17.489
to intertwine these occult ritualistic aspects into our lives and
847
00:54:17.969 --> 00:54:24.019
possibly have us closer to interacting with demonic forces just
848
00:54:24.099 --> 00:54:27.000
by the things we're doing every day, the things we're
849
00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:31.719
interacting with online. the ease of access to pharmaceuticals and
850
00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:35.079
drugs and the information that's out there.
851
00:54:36.090 --> 00:54:38.130
Well, I mean, I think there's a lot of that
852
00:54:38.190 --> 00:54:41.650
going on. But again, I go back to there's more
853
00:54:41.730 --> 00:54:44.630
good going on than bad when you really look at it,
854
00:54:44.789 --> 00:54:48.409
because the world and society and functionality wouldn't exist if
855
00:54:48.429 --> 00:54:51.179
it wasn't. But yes, there are some very dark holes.
856
00:54:51.260 --> 00:54:55.679
I actually met Kathy O'Brien. She's a really famous mind control.
857
00:54:55.699 --> 00:54:56.639
Yeah, I've had her on the show.
858
00:54:56.699 --> 00:55:01.099
And we've Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she, well, then you know. Yeah.
859
00:55:01.380 --> 00:55:03.639
I mean, there's so many of them I've met. I mean,
860
00:55:03.699 --> 00:55:07.340
it's really saddening what these people do. They use trauma.
861
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:10.570
They use deprivation. You know, you watch how they train
862
00:55:10.590 --> 00:55:14.150
a horse or a dog for certain things or an animal.
863
00:55:14.809 --> 00:55:16.869
It's you do what we want. You get the carrot.
864
00:55:16.929 --> 00:55:20.159
You don't. You get the stick. See, so this has
865
00:55:20.199 --> 00:55:23.880
been a modality that's been used, even how they program
866
00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:28.590
slaves to behave and obey. What do you really think
867
00:55:28.969 --> 00:55:33.989
about basic training in the military? It's all about carrot
868
00:55:34.030 --> 00:55:39.250
and stick. This modality of humanity is, again, built into
869
00:55:39.309 --> 00:55:42.170
our psychology. We're always going to seek pleasure. We're going
870
00:55:42.190 --> 00:55:45.530
to avoid pain. Of course, this is how the tax
871
00:55:45.570 --> 00:55:48.480
man works. You pay the taxes, you get to be free.
872
00:55:48.579 --> 00:55:52.320
You don't, we'll put you in a cell and fine
873
00:55:52.340 --> 00:55:57.260
you to death. It's really an interesting dynamic, this planet.
874
00:55:57.909 --> 00:56:00.789
And I really think the Earth is a place where
875
00:56:01.010 --> 00:56:06.269
souls purify and rectify to a number of incarnations. And
876
00:56:06.789 --> 00:56:10.659
everybody is playing a different movie. Shakespeare was right. The
877
00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:14.619
whole world is a stage and we're the actors. And
878
00:56:14.659 --> 00:56:18.429
when you think about it, Look at the diversity of people.
879
00:56:18.469 --> 00:56:20.750
You'll see people who've gone through horrible things like we
880
00:56:20.769 --> 00:56:22.829
were just talking about, but then you see other people,
881
00:56:23.349 --> 00:56:26.389
they have the life of Riley, so to speak. These
882
00:56:26.429 --> 00:56:29.199
people are born into money, and they never work, and
883
00:56:29.219 --> 00:56:33.099
their reality structures are completely... Then you have the other
884
00:56:33.760 --> 00:56:37.599
person who works at some menial task or labor. They're
885
00:56:37.619 --> 00:56:41.539
a cleaning person, or they're doing physical factory labor. So
886
00:56:41.739 --> 00:56:44.880
I mean, every reality is going on on this planet.
887
00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:48.429
It's really, I call it the soul cauldron. And in
888
00:56:48.489 --> 00:56:50.789
my opinion, it really is. I mean, you look at
889
00:56:50.829 --> 00:56:54.530
the different reality structures that are going on and have
890
00:56:54.590 --> 00:57:02.449
gone on throughout time. And the Rosicrucians are very interesting. They,
891
00:57:02.469 --> 00:57:04.440
I don't know if you've heard of that whole thing,
892
00:57:04.460 --> 00:57:08.159
but there's many secret societies. And the Rosicrucians believe that
893
00:57:08.179 --> 00:57:12.579
there's waves and waves of souls that pass through here
894
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:17.179
by either reincarnating a number of times, and then they
895
00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:21.110
move on to other realms and dimensions. Now, this is interesting,
896
00:57:21.150 --> 00:57:25.909
because the Vedantic, as well as the Kabbalistic stuff, say
897
00:57:25.949 --> 00:57:30.469
the exact same thing. Some of the rabbinical texts are stunning.
898
00:57:30.590 --> 00:57:33.590
They actually say there's hundreds of planets just like this one.
899
00:57:34.269 --> 00:57:37.329
And one of the things that's been surfacing lately on
900
00:57:37.349 --> 00:57:39.489
a lot of podcasts that I've been hearing is the
901
00:57:39.590 --> 00:57:43.050
Nag Hammadi Library. I don't know if you've heard of that.
902
00:57:43.070 --> 00:57:46.869
But that is, of course, stuff all about the Enochian stuff,
903
00:57:48.989 --> 00:57:55.510
the book of Enoch, and then also they're talking about
904
00:57:55.550 --> 00:58:00.440
the archives, right? which I think is very limiting compared
905
00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:02.840
to how complex it just might be. It's beyond what
906
00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:06.239
anyone knows. But this is actually talked about in the
907
00:58:06.420 --> 00:58:12.380
ancient Egyptian, Babylonian, and rabbinical texts, where the sepharoths on
908
00:58:12.420 --> 00:58:16.340
the tree of life, astrologers call them planets, are literally
909
00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:19.019
not just rocks out there floating around with masses and
910
00:58:19.059 --> 00:58:22.559
gases and all that stuff, but they're literally dimensional realms.
911
00:58:23.219 --> 00:58:27.159
that are outside of this perception of reality. And when
912
00:58:27.219 --> 00:58:29.960
we exit the body known as death, and I guarantee you,
913
00:58:30.019 --> 00:58:33.280
every one of us will leave these bodies. It's a
914
00:58:33.320 --> 00:58:35.949
matter of when. Some of us will die old. Some
915
00:58:35.969 --> 00:58:37.889
of us will die in the next 10 minutes in
916
00:58:37.909 --> 00:58:40.690
a car accident. We don't know. Look at these poor
917
00:58:40.710 --> 00:58:43.889
young people that pass away from whatever it is. You
918
00:58:43.909 --> 00:58:46.510
hear it every day on the news. So the point is,
919
00:58:46.570 --> 00:58:49.039
and we hear it in our lives, so the real
920
00:58:49.099 --> 00:58:54.230
game is your consciousness. And they talk about This particular
921
00:58:54.389 --> 00:58:58.590
world is a soul trap. They want to keep you
922
00:58:58.639 --> 00:59:01.340
reincarnated because they play off the fear. They play off
923
00:59:01.380 --> 00:59:05.079
the anger. They play off all the emotions. If you
924
00:59:05.099 --> 00:59:08.230
look at a human being, how much energy we generate,
925
00:59:08.369 --> 00:59:13.019
it's stunning. I mean, put yourself under the covers, and
926
00:59:13.400 --> 00:59:16.360
you heat up the whole bed. I mean, that's one
927
00:59:16.420 --> 00:59:20.260
example only. But I mean, we generate not only physical energy,
928
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but a lot of psychic and emotional energy. They actually
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say our auric field might extend out in layers up
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to eight feet. And that's just what we know. And
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when you think about consciousness and thought, you know, think
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about what is thought? Well, the third eye chakra emits
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thoughts from what we call elementals. I always mention this book.
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It's one of my favorites. It's called the Magus of Stroblos.
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And he speaks specifically about the powers of thought. And,
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of course, many people who play around with magic are
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focusing on magic. Creating more power. The Tibetan lamas would
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train some of their disciples up in the mountains. They
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would actually train them on powers of focus and they
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would create elementals around them. And the lamas would go
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down into the city and people would feel it. You
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01:00:13.329 --> 01:00:17.199
can see that on certain people. Certain people, they have
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01:00:17.460 --> 01:00:21.739
really powerful orange fields. And of course, in business, we
944
01:00:21.800 --> 01:00:24.929
usually find very forceful people. They have a lot of push, right?
945
01:00:25.179 --> 01:00:28.389
Shows up in astrology really accurately. When you see in
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your Vedic birth chart certain yogas and aspects, They're amazing.
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01:00:35.269 --> 01:00:37.409
And I see them all the time. And when you
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01:00:37.429 --> 01:00:39.969
see weak ones, you see the same thing. You see
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someone who's really physically impaired or they are living a
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life with some type of disease or impairment physically. They
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01:00:51.059 --> 01:00:53.480
can't walk or something. And you can also see when
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these progressions come in, this stuff happens. It's absolutely stunning.
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We are in, I always say, forget Trinity, Neo, and Morpheus.
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This is really a matrix. that these celestial spheres that
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we call planets interact with each one of us uniquely.
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And after death, they say certain souls will migrate into
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these other planetary sephiric dimensions until either reincarnation or evolution.
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And I really believe that we keep reincarnating until two
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01:01:30.469 --> 01:01:34.920
things happen. One is the dissipation of interconnected karmas that
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link us. You think about DNA. DNA is something not
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too many people understand. I certainly don't. Sir Francis Crick
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and Watson are the guys credited with the Nobel Peace
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Prize of the genetic code. Remember, they broke that. All
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the senators, we're going to know everything. I think it
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01:01:55.050 --> 01:01:57.869
was Sir Francis Crick stood up. He just died a
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01:01:57.889 --> 01:02:02.179
while ago. He stood up and said, maybe in 1,000 years,
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we'll understand even remotely to what's really going on with
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01:02:08.500 --> 01:02:12.780
the complexities of genetics. Now, people today, they're splicing genes.
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They're coming up with ways to cure diseases. And I
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think that AI is going to help that, too. I
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really do. Because it's taking data and new ways of
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01:02:20.730 --> 01:02:23.230
looking at things and models that are really going to
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01:02:23.250 --> 01:02:27.530
help medicine and breakthroughs. But on the other hand, what's
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01:02:27.590 --> 01:02:33.530
interesting is it's all coded. from the karmas of the soul.
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This is where Vedic and Nadi astrology and the Kalashakra
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01:02:38.530 --> 01:02:43.320
Darsha systems come together. And it's really quite amazing because
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if you think about it, We all look a little
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bit like our parents or maybe some relative connected to
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our parents. Some people don't, but most do. You can
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take genetics and connect the uniqueness that no one else has.
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01:03:00.030 --> 01:03:03.030
They do it, of course, in crime. The odds of
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01:03:03.230 --> 01:03:07.659
anyone having the exact same genetic code is not too likely.
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01:03:07.929 --> 01:03:11.119
That's why DNA is being used in court systems now
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to figure out crimes. Now, how does that relate to astrology?
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And how does that relate to incarnation? Well, now you
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go into the principles behind Vedic astrology, which is really
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called Jyotisha. They actually say our soul roots are trapped
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01:03:29.230 --> 01:03:36.230
down in this yet-seratic dimension of reincarnation. And the theory was,
989
01:03:36.369 --> 01:03:39.099
and it's eerily close to the Garden of Eden story,
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01:03:39.400 --> 01:03:42.460
but much more complex, and that is the soul's fragmented nature.
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01:03:43.349 --> 01:03:47.519
into like a shower of fragments coming down into the
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01:03:47.619 --> 01:03:51.900
physical realms of time and space. Because when you think
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01:03:51.940 --> 01:03:58.500
about these genetic bodies, they are garments or vehicles for
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01:03:58.579 --> 01:04:02.489
us to experience time and space. When you die or
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01:04:02.949 --> 01:04:05.210
you have an out-of-body experience or you ask for travel,
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01:04:05.250 --> 01:04:09.389
you are outside of this dimension. And this is stuff
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01:04:09.989 --> 01:04:12.070
that I think is going to become more and more
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01:04:12.230 --> 01:04:15.769
apparent to us as time goes on, because we are
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01:04:15.929 --> 01:04:19.349
moving into a new age here over the next couple
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01:04:19.369 --> 01:04:21.769
of hundred years. I don't think we're in the age
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01:04:21.789 --> 01:04:24.530
of Aquarius yet. I think we're going to get there
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01:04:25.030 --> 01:04:27.880
about 200 something years from now. And I think the
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01:04:27.929 --> 01:04:32.000
Hebrew calendar might be pretty damn accurate. When that hits 6,000,
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01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:35.320
that might be when we really are close to the
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01:04:35.940 --> 01:04:37.260
Aquarian age entrance.
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01:04:38.429 --> 01:04:43.150
I'd be so interested to see where human awareness is
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01:04:43.389 --> 01:04:47.389
in 10, 15 years from now, how our consciousness will evolve.
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01:04:48.469 --> 01:04:52.059
Like you said, I think there are some incredibly amazing
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01:04:52.139 --> 01:04:55.960
things happening right now, some wonderful things. I look outside
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01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:59.599
my window, I go outside and interact with people, and
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01:04:59.860 --> 01:05:03.199
it's the best experience ever. I don't come into contact.
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01:05:03.610 --> 01:05:06.690
With that much negativity in my everyday life until I
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01:05:06.730 --> 01:05:09.570
look online or I turn on the TV or listen
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01:05:09.610 --> 01:05:12.989
to something that's being broadcasted. And that's when all the
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01:05:13.030 --> 01:05:16.489
terrible stuff starts to seep in. But like you said,
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01:05:16.530 --> 01:05:20.179
it's about our perception about what we're focusing on in
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01:05:20.260 --> 01:05:24.699
our life. And we essentially can guide what direction we're
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01:05:24.719 --> 01:05:29.170
going to go. To close out, what... time period should
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01:05:29.230 --> 01:05:31.809
we be on the lookout for? I know you mentioned
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2028 earlier. Would that be an important period to keep
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01:05:35.090 --> 01:05:35.510
an eye on?
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01:05:35.530 --> 01:05:39.980
Well, the one that's really interesting is what's coming right up.
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01:05:40.239 --> 01:05:45.659
Literally on October 3rd this year, coming right up, weeks away,
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01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:51.119
we have Venus stationing and going retrograde. Now, people may say, okay,
1025
01:05:51.139 --> 01:05:57.539
so what? Well, that's called The ancient legend of Lucifer falling. See, Venus,
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01:05:58.159 --> 01:06:01.159
when it goes retrograde, which is only every couple of years,
1027
01:06:01.219 --> 01:06:03.650
it's not like Mercury. Mercury is also going to go
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01:06:03.730 --> 01:06:06.570
retrograde right in there, too. I forget when exactly that is,
1029
01:06:06.590 --> 01:06:09.750
but Mercury will go retrograde. I think it's right in
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01:06:09.789 --> 01:06:14.550
the first week of, it might be right around the 23rd.
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01:06:14.599 --> 01:06:18.260
I can't remember. But it's coming right up. But when
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01:06:18.380 --> 01:06:20.920
Venus goes retrograde, this is the one I'm talking about.
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01:06:20.940 --> 01:06:25.250
That's October 3rd. And you might say, so what? So
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01:06:25.289 --> 01:06:30.769
Venus goes retrograde throughout history many times. So it's doing
1035
01:06:30.829 --> 01:06:35.469
it in what we call an inferior retrograde age, which
1036
01:06:35.570 --> 01:06:38.090
means it's happening in between the Earth and the sun.
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01:06:38.130 --> 01:06:41.280
That's called an inferior conjunction when it aligns up with
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01:06:41.300 --> 01:06:46.320
the Earth. That's exactly on October 23rd. Now, the inferior
1039
01:06:46.360 --> 01:06:49.250
conjunctions were known by the ancients as much more dangerous.
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01:06:49.750 --> 01:06:53.630
Accidents and weird stuff can happen. Also, violence can happen.
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01:06:54.309 --> 01:06:56.570
And this is going to push a lot of things
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01:06:56.610 --> 01:06:59.889
going on with this whole war in Russia and Iran.
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01:06:59.969 --> 01:07:01.670
And look at all the stuff we've got going on.
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01:07:01.690 --> 01:07:04.170
A lot of things changing here. Look at Cuba. Look
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01:07:04.210 --> 01:07:07.849
at Greenland just got brought in the fold. Canada, you've
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01:07:07.889 --> 01:07:12.329
got a lot of dissension. On the United States, Donald Trump,
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01:07:13.590 --> 01:07:17.900
The president has the south node, which is also known
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01:07:17.920 --> 01:07:24.619
as K2, joining his Mars exactly when Venus retrograde aligns
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01:07:24.639 --> 01:07:28.190
with the Earth. That's October 23rd. You might say, okay,
1050
01:07:28.210 --> 01:07:31.469
so what? We could see some real events here that
1051
01:07:31.530 --> 01:07:34.769
are forced upon him. Now, many psychics and intuitives said,
1052
01:07:34.789 --> 01:07:36.530
Trump's going to get killed, never going to finish his
1053
01:07:36.550 --> 01:07:41.599
second term, right? And I keep looking at charts saying, no,
1054
01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:44.420
he may have a challenge at that time, whether we
1055
01:07:45.019 --> 01:07:46.659
get to hear about it or not on the mind
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01:07:46.699 --> 01:07:50.599
control news is another factor. But I really believe that's
1057
01:07:50.619 --> 01:07:55.710
going to be a real pivotal time in Trump's presidency. Why?
1058
01:07:56.090 --> 01:07:59.869
Because K2, which is the moon's south node eclipse point, see,
1059
01:07:59.929 --> 01:08:02.280
Rahu is the north node, also known as the head
1060
01:08:02.320 --> 01:08:04.599
of the dragon, K2 is the south node. They go
1061
01:08:04.619 --> 01:08:08.199
around all of our birth charts about every 18.5 years.
1062
01:08:09.119 --> 01:08:14.579
Everybody will experience that. In fact, It's a major change
1063
01:08:14.639 --> 01:08:17.539
in life for everyone. But this one is significant to
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01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:20.300
Donald Trump. Why? A, he's the president. B, a lot
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01:08:20.359 --> 01:08:22.890
of stuff happening in the world right now. And the
1066
01:08:22.949 --> 01:08:27.949
inferior conjunction of Venus lines up with the Earth. That's
1067
01:08:27.989 --> 01:08:31.510
called the conjunction with the Earth. And we'll see it
1068
01:08:31.670 --> 01:08:35.520
as an alignment with the sun. So when that happens,
1069
01:08:35.880 --> 01:08:40.479
that's exactly when the south node eclipse points joins Donald
1070
01:08:40.500 --> 01:08:44.090
Trump's Mars. That's very dangerous, by the Very, very dangerous.
1071
01:08:44.109 --> 01:08:47.829
In fact, the ancient legend, the Mayans talked about this
1072
01:08:47.909 --> 01:08:52.279
as well. When Venus goes retrograde in an inferior conjuncture
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01:08:52.300 --> 01:08:55.039
between the Earth and the Sun, they always hid the emperors.
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01:08:55.560 --> 01:08:57.369
They would hide them because they said this is a
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01:08:57.409 --> 01:09:00.189
very dangerous time. The king could be killed. The ancient
1076
01:09:00.350 --> 01:09:04.760
legend was, it's called the Quetzalcoatl legend. That's one of
1077
01:09:04.800 --> 01:09:08.399
them that survived. And that is the, there would be
1078
01:09:08.420 --> 01:09:12.039
some atrocious act committed. And then they would find that
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01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:15.300
this would, the person would have to go into the underworld.
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01:09:15.899 --> 01:09:18.829
You see? That's the metaphor. So this is a very
1081
01:09:18.909 --> 01:09:22.149
powerful time for Donald Trump and this country, as that
1082
01:09:22.670 --> 01:09:25.289
Mars comes over the top, or I should say, K2
1083
01:09:25.310 --> 01:09:30.260
comes over, it's Mars. And again, the inferior conjunction of
1084
01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:32.760
Venus is going to happen to everybody. And depending on
1085
01:09:32.800 --> 01:09:35.779
where it happens in your birth chart, this is very powerful.
1086
01:09:36.319 --> 01:09:39.000
So you got to look at where does that happen. Now,
1087
01:09:39.020 --> 01:09:44.060
it'll be happening actually in sidereal Leo. But if you're
1088
01:09:44.840 --> 01:09:53.699
a tropical chart, it will be in sidereal Libra. It
1089
01:09:53.720 --> 01:09:57.220
will not happen. I forget where it's happening. It's going
1090
01:09:57.239 --> 01:10:01.520
to be in Libra, actually. It'll be in late sidereal
1091
01:10:01.579 --> 01:10:05.380
Virgo in the sidereal chart, and in tropical, it will
1092
01:10:05.420 --> 01:10:11.069
be in Libra. Powerful stuff.
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01:10:11.369 --> 01:10:12.930
RAOUL PAL, MD, So right down this level this month.
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LESLIE KENDRICK Yeah. And watch driving. You know, I mean,
1095
01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:22.579
we find that accidents, weird stuff happens, maritime stuff can happen.
1096
01:10:23.020 --> 01:10:25.939
So it is happening in an air tribe. So an
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01:10:26.079 --> 01:10:30.279
air always is very igniting. So we'll see what happens.
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01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:33.399
That's one of the short term. Right on.
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01:10:33.739 --> 01:10:36.699
Jeff, as usual, great discussion. Before I let you go,
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remind everyone how they can get more of you.
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MIKE GREEN Yeah, the best way is jeff at jeffhartman.com.
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they do work. It's like astrology itself. A lot of
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people poo-poo astrology. How can you prove it? Well, the
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proof is in seeing the cycles that go on in
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people's lives. Absolutely amazing. I know I've seen health issues,
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financial issues, relationship issues. All these things happen. in cycles
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that we all experience. And some of them can be wonderful.
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And everyone is unique. Everyone is unique. Our astrology is
1119
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as unique as your DNA. It's the same thing in
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a lot of ways. But very interesting. Right on, Jeff.
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I will have all your links easily accessible for everyone
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do it again. Until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening.
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