Fish Stripes LIVE: Marlins vs. Mets Series Preview Show

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Speaker 1: Here we go.
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Speaker 2: It's the fish Stripes podcast, and I'm Eli Susman, the managing editor of fish Stripes. Have you taken a few seconds already to rate and review the fish Stripes podcast on Apple? If not, please consider doing so. For every new rating and review that we get between now and the end of the Marlins regular season on October third, that's gonna be an extra dollar that Fish Stripes donates towards the Player's Alliance. You can find everything you need to know about that great organization at the players Alliance dot com. You'll notice from the cold open and from missing phrase at the start of the show that this is not the official show. This is not my own solo podcast that you guys are used to a couple times a week. Instead, I am handing the microphone figuratively over toward our live stream operation. If you're somehow not familiar with it. We've been doing it all season long, live streams heading into every new Marlins series. The latest one recorded on Monday night. We switched up the scheduling a bit to record it on an off day heading into their four game series against the Mets. Some of the streams earlier this season and even some recent ones too. I've appeared on it myself, but we have a pretty strong crew that every time out we're running five deep, six deep. On this show, we had seven other people on it, and so under those circumstances, it would kind of be overcrowding to fit myself into it. Instead, I seated the floor to Ethan Bodowski, Kevin Bral, Isaacazoo, Noah Berger, Alex Carver, Daniel Rodriguez. And our special guest for this show was Jeremy Tasha from Bally Sports Florida. He's their digital reporter. He's the host of their brand new podcast, Miami Miked Up, and he was great. He actually wasn't here for the entire show. He was here for like eighty percent of this show, and I'm gonna post it here kind of raw and unedited. It was an original livest that you could catch. These are a couple times a week on our YouTube page, Twitter and Twitch, same stream simulcast on all those platforms. I encourage you to go to YouTube and rewatch it if you like, because, first and foremost, it is a visual show with fewer comments, integrated with highlights that I put in. So personally, if I do say so myself. I felt this one was really well produced from a visual standpoint, and I think you'll really enjoy it. So if you don't already subscribe to us on YouTube, this would be a great excuse to do so and find our fish Stripes Live Marlins Versus Mets series preview show again. The special guest was Jeremy Tasha. I'd encourage you to follow off his work. Just a great blend of sports analysis and pop culture references in pure human kindness. He was great with us and this was with Ethan Badowski was mainly our air traffic controller here hosting the show, and it was made behind the scenes. So without further here is the full fish Stripes last stream from August thirtieth.
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Speaker 3: Enjoy already fish Stripes Live Special Edition, coming at you on my Monday evening.
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Speaker 4: Even though the Marlins are off today, We're still coming at you because of the unusual scheduling circumstances.
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Speaker 1: Tomorrow, the Marlins play.
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Speaker 4: At about twelve thirty, I believe, so it wouldn't make sense for one thirty, yeah, one o'clock. It wouldn't make sense to have a stream in the middle of everybody's day. So here we are coming at you before the Marlins get started in New York for a four game series. Of course, there's an unusual double header tomorrow, which we'll talk about later in this show, but with the Marlins off day, it kind of gives us a chance to reset. The Marlins had a really nice week coming off an h to seven weeks. The Marlins go four and six on the home stand, get two series wins, just their third and fourth of the second Calf, and they beat the meat up on the Nationals we talked about last time, and now they come in and get too agree with the Reds, which was very exciting because Reds were playing some really good baseball right now, and that was pretty good team that the Marlins took got a series win from. I you know, I said they stole that series from the Reds. So Isaac, I think you were at one of these games. But let's just you know, start with you, buddy. Let's talk about what you saw and just you know how exciting it was for the Marlins to take two or three from a good team.
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Speaker 5: Well I was, I was, you know, fortunate enough to be at the game on Saturday night, Dominican Heritage Night, where you know, the the Dominican Sandy and Haesus Sanchez came through. The atmosphere was electric. It was a really nice It's really nice to see the stadium, you know, like, you know, not full capacity obviously.
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Speaker 1: But it was.
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Speaker 5: It was pretty packed. Sandy, you know, a new career high in strikeout, soldier just keeps doing his thing. He's just Sandra showed the power, hitting two home runs on Saturday and Sunday respectively. And it was just a great series all around and being a good Reds team. And the main thing for me was Hayes was Lozardo coming out with his best startist in Marlin era. I think he you know, correctly predicted that, you know, Lozardo would have a great start, and he did, and it was just overall fantastic week going forward too and winning back to back series.
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Speaker 4: Alex Carver, let's talk about Lizardo since Isaac mentioned it best start we've seen from him in a Marlin's uniform.
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Speaker 1: He was great.
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Speaker 4: Eight k's in six innings. And how much of a difference do you think Sandy Leone behind the plate made I know we were talking about that a little bit.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I think it helps first of all, that he can see again. I think that's the biggest thing. They kind of asked him post it or I'm sorry in the postgame interview about it, and he was like, yeah, you know, I kind of got away from it a little bit after high school and really wasn't even wearing contacts at all on the mound, just nothing. And now he's back to wearing his glasses, which he always has done and obviously helped. So I think that's the biggest thing to point out, is that I don't know why he would have gone away from them in the first place, but whatever, I'm glad that he's back to being able to see correctly. But yeah, no, Sandy for sure definitely helps. I mean, that guy has done a lot for every young Marlin starting pitcher that has come up or or or you know, maybe his debut this year or even you know, whatever it may be. So yeah, I definitely think it helps. You hear a lot of them say, you know, hey, I just trust what he was throwing down. He was throwing it down, I was throwing the pitch. There's no shake offs, there's no cross ups. Yeah, so I think Sandy really helps young pitchers and that's his value. He doesn't do a lot on offense, he doesn't do a lot of anything else, but man, as a backup catcher, you can't argue against him.
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Speaker 7: Man, and I'd really like to keep him around.
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Speaker 6: Like I know a lot of people are sayeh, he sucks, can't hit, But man, he provides a real, real good value in being able to call these.
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Speaker 7: Young players and it does a lot for their progression.
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Speaker 6: So really good. Loved Lozardo change up was amazing. He was spotting that pitch all night long. Curveball is also good, So yeah, I think it's it's a huge difference a that he can see.
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Speaker 7: Sandy helped him, and then the stuff was as advertised.
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Speaker 6: So really good.
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Speaker 4: One thing I want to ask you before I move on to some of the other guys on the screen here is just why can't the other catchers on the Marlins roster do that? Like, why can't they just put down the same thing that Sandy Leone is putting down and get the most out of these young pitchers the way that Leone has.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess the best answer would be that you know it's an older guy, you know, he probably he's probably he's been all over the world playing baseball, catching a lot of different players being internationally, minors, majors, wherever it may be. And he just has that good proporter and relationship. He knows what guys are throwing that's working and when it's not working. He's able to read pitches better than maybe some of the other catchers on the Marlins roster. And then also it's his ability to frame. He's a pretty good framing catcher. I think this year he's been a little down, but historically he's a good framer. You know, I'm not gonna say that the zones in this series were perfect, because they definitely were. Yeah, I think on both sides. You know, I think the Reds personally got screwed in that Lozardo game, but they definitely had a reason to be pissed off about that strike zone.
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Speaker 7: But you know, that is what it is. That's the human element, right.
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Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean, just to answer your question, it's it's a guy that's been around for.
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Speaker 7: A long time, man doing it for a long time.
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Speaker 6: He knows the catching craft and he knows how to call pictures and that's a value for sure.
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Speaker 4: Daniel Rodriguez, let me welcome in here, mister mullet Man, you know, to just talk to me about what your impressions of the series, and then with Lizardo just continuing to talk about him, what your you know, biggest takeaway from his start was.
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Speaker 8: And looking at that series like I was there for the one loss and that was that was the Mike Mustakas game where Wade Minley just completely went off, and then seeing the other two games, you know, the pitching performances were great from Sandy and from Luzardo, and this has been Mussarto's best performances of the year. I think maybe even in Oakland too, does his best pitching performance, and I think that really gives a lot of hope in the Marlins in the front office to see him perform. And I performed just against maybe any team, but against a solid team, and the Reds a team that.
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Speaker 9: Can hit hit for power. I believe they have a couple of.
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Speaker 8: Guys on some hitting streaks right now, and just seeing from that, I think that gives a lot of hope for the Marlins overall in the front office, seeing that this performance hopefully can not bounce back but go ahead and perform like this for other games.
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Speaker 9: And also for twenty twenty two because this is a good sign because it's a deep rotation. It's Wizardo's pitching like this.
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Speaker 4: No, I know you are the reaction master, So obviously, I think a lot of people have been really concerned about Lozardo's performance related to the fact that he was what the Marlins acquired for Starling Marte, and Marte has gone over to Oakland and stolen every base that's been in front of him.
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Speaker 1: So does this.
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Speaker 4: Settle that feeling a little bit for you seeing Wizardo pitch?
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Speaker 10: Well, so with Lozardo, And I'm on the record saying I was gonna give Lizardo time. This is not like me just saying give Lewis Princeton time, because I was totally wrong about that. No, Lozardo needed time to be with mel, to be with with or with with Sandy Leone, to put his glasses back on two.
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Speaker 11: Just sorry, I just read that chat.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Peter got me, Yeah you got.
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Speaker 9: It's the best chance.
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Speaker 1: This is this chair.
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Speaker 9: It looks like more than a decade.
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Speaker 1: It looks truly fantastic. Dude, I can't even lie. It looks I'm.
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Speaker 8: Gonna recline on wanted the streams just laid back and listen to another Kevin rant.
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Speaker 1: No, no, I'm sorry to interrupt, man, continue.
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Speaker 10: No problem. I was very excited to see him perform on Sunday. That was that was amazing. And on the Marte thing, he's leading, He's gonna be in the top ten for stolen bases in both leagues.
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Speaker 11: Like, come on, he's a good player.
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Speaker 4: He's a fantastic player. Yeah, he really tremendous player.
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Speaker 1: He's got He's got forty two stolen bases.
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Speaker 4: I mean, nobody's going to come close to Otani and he doesn't hit the ball for enough power I would say to be in that contention. But uh yeah, I mean obviously he's just fantastic. And it had been a little frustrating, you know, seeing Lizardo and worrying that maybe it wasn't fixable.
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Speaker 1: You know, I started wearing a little bit.
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Speaker 4: But this certainly got me back, you know, brought I think a lot of people back off the edge. You could say, Kevin, I want to go to you here with Lizardo. You know, is this what Marlins fans?
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Speaker 1: You know?
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Speaker 4: Did this get you excited for another month of Hayes Lizardo instead of just kind of dreading every time he goes out there because he had been getting knocked around so much.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, for sure. I mean this guy, this is the best start he's made on the Marlins.
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Speaker 1: I mean eight, That.
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Speaker 12: Strikesone was a little bit too wide, I would say, but he got lucky with it. I mean he got guys swinging, and he got a David Bill got ejected that game. He got David Bill ejected. No, that was bender. Yeah, I mean it was a good It was a good start for for Lozard. His best one is a Marlin. Is it a career high in k's I'm pretty sure eight k's. I mean, yeah, a good game, man. I mean he his control was a little bit off, but it was better than the previous games. I'll say that's been what his big issues, which is control. So yeah, Lezardo had a good game. Jesus Sanchez quietly putting up two homers in that game. We have to talk about this guy. This guy's been insane for the team.
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Speaker 1: I didn't want to talk about that guy.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, Sanchez is crazy. This guy's going to be right field or left fielder next season. Making some good defensive plays, as well. We didn't I think we saw we didn't see de la Cruz the last game. But he's been as well solid Sandy. He's about to put up thirteen k's into his next start most likely. At this point he's he keeps setting a new career high in strikeouts. It's a trend at this point. Yeah, like Noah said, good good weekend for them, good week for the Marlins. I mean, it's good to see this team winning games and they're actually they look enthusiastic about it, and you know, they look like they're having fun there. There are a lot more hyped about it. That's good to see from this team, especially with Lozardo. Now with I think Eli put it on the stats one pair of glasses. He's one and ohero with the glasses, So let's keep it on.
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Speaker 1: That's definitely something to keep an eye on it.
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Speaker 4: And I definitely think he'll at least next start be out there with the glasses on. But let's let's talk about Hayes with Sanchez since you mentioned it, keV, I would love to do that. This is the guy that I'm really intrigued by, you know, seven forty four ops so far, six point six percent walk rate, twenty eight point five k rate, one hundred and two way run screen plus He's got six homers, hit two in this series, and both of them were absolute moonshots. They were blasts into you know, right dead center pretty much. And then he hit one to deep, deep right back behind that big cement pole out in right field. It was really two impressive, impressive homers. But Isaac, you know, let me go to you man, just has he convinced you that this is a solid major league baseball player yet?
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Speaker 6: Yeah?
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Speaker 5: That's and I was gonna mention on the stream today. I think Hasey said, if he hasn't done it yet, he is pretty much, you know, like in pencil has put himself as like a starting outfielder for next year going to spring training at least, you know the guys he's sitting for power. He's a free swinger a little bit, but you know who who in the big leagues isn't nowadays. But he's putting up like an above average way to run created. He's hitting the ball far four undred and forty four feet on Saturday and four unred and fifteen I believe on Sunday. These aren't you know, they're not like wall scrapers. I was at the game on Saturday and that ball was just crushed. It was Stanton esque ones. Yeah, which is impressive. And he's having good at bats. Remember that about in Cincinnati with like with two outs in the ninth and he drew like a ten pitch at bat. So the guy has impressed me, you know, greet gratefully, and I think that that's one spot that the Marlins. You know, they're good, they have a left fielder or a right field or where they had to put him, but you know, they've got to be impressed with him so far.
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Speaker 4: And you know, when you look at the strikeout rate, so twenty eight pointy five kind of jumps off the page at CHWO but he's a rookie, and in today's major leagues, like if a rookie free swinger comes in and is striking out under thirty percent, you know, with the way that the game is today, I find that pretty impressive, pretty encouraging. You know, I would like to see the walks go up, but it's not like that's something he can't do. You know, he walked at a a a seven point seven percent clip in the minors.
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Speaker 1: This year.
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Speaker 4: You know, he's walked at ten percent in the past, eleven point five percent in the past, and he really hasn't ever struck out above twenty percent. So obviously that's just adjusting to major league pitching kind of. But you know, I think that it's pretty encouraging that k raid. And you know, look at a guy like Chris Bryant, right, he was a thirty percent strikeout rate guy when he you know, when he won Rookie of the Year. And I look the other day and his strikeout rate is down to twenty two percent, So you know, you can that's something that comes with time now where guys are dropping their strikeout rates a lot. And I know, Alex, you know, with following young guys so much, you see this a lot. So you know, with Jyzeus again, I'll ask you the same question I asked Isaac. Are you sold he's a solid big leaguer in the future. There's definitely hear me, Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 6: There's definitely. There's big league potential for sure, it's just what capacity is it. Obviously the ceiliing is going to be that of an everyday outfielder, and I think he could get there because of everything that you guys just said.
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Speaker 7: I mean, I've had the same thing as you just said, Ethan.
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Speaker 6: I want to see the walks up a little bit. Six point six percent walker. He's only walked like nine times I think, or ten times or something like that. So you want to see that improve a little bit. But as you said, that will come with time. I mean you you you guys asked me about it when he came back.
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Speaker 7: You're like, what does he have to do?
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Speaker 6: What do you want to see? And I said, I want to see how he readjusts major league pitching. And I think he's doing that very well. I mean, when this guy stays back and gets his hands to the ball, you're going to see home runs like that.
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Speaker 7: It's absolutely monstrous, legitimate power.
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Speaker 6: There's a couple guys in the organization behind him that have the same thing. It's just a consistency of contact is what.
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Speaker 1: You need to see.
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Speaker 6: Keeping up right, you know, because as Isaac said, he can get out in front of stuff. Pitch recognition isn't really there, especially against good breaking stuff that this major league level breaking stuff he does struggle against an India striking out. As you said, Ethan, it'll come with time. He just needs to get bats, and I'm so glad that he's back. I'm glad that he's healthy, got over COVID, you know, got over his struggles last year where he came up.
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Speaker 7: And said he wasn't really confident.
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Speaker 6: Looked supremely confident, having fun on the field, playing good baseball, and that's what it's about for a growing kid. So I think he's going to be really good. Definitely think there's a chance that he reaches that ceiling of it every day outfielder, but floor you're talking about monstrous power off the bench, so either way, good to see.
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Speaker 4: And then I guess this discussion kind of flows into Brian de la Cruz, right, because these are two guys that are trying to show the Marlins that they belong in the outfield in twenty twenty two as a starter. You know, I think a lot of us on the stream have talked about De la Cruz as a fourth outfielder in the future. But with the way he's been hitting, you know, it's gonna be hard to keep him on the bench even when he does come back to Earth a little bit, because the stats will be pretty good. You know, you're looking at a possible guy that's maybe you know, an eight hundred zero ps to guy that hits for in the two eighty two ninety range if it all comes back to earth a little bit.
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Speaker 1: So you know, uh, Daniel, I'll go to you here on this one man.
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Speaker 4: Continuing to impress Dela Cruz you know again, And what do you think about his prospects in terms of is he showing you? You know, he the Marlins should give him a chance to start every day in right field next year.
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Speaker 8: See, that's just gonna be so tough because like their outfield already is super thin. I would like them to make some moves in the offseason where there's some trades or or some free agent moves to get maybe a real veteran solidified outfield like just rotation there. But I could see Brandon Lacuz get some reps, especially maybe as a fourth outfooter because for me, he's really been impressing me defensively, like he's just been a monster there. You see like a highlight play every almost every game. And then hitting, I think is he has a really great average, he's hitting balls, and I think that's a guy you can probably maybe move up a little bit more on the order it so maybe eight, maybe put him around six, maybe even five potentially. But I think he's been really great so far, and they won that trade by a million miles just so right now, it's only going to get better.
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Speaker 4: This is an insane stat that Eli has on the on the you know, on the screen right now, that over half of his balls that are put in play are landing.
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Speaker 1: That's just crazy.
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Speaker 4: It's completely unsustainable, obviously, which is why I think all of us are expecting. You know, it doesn't have to be a regression, right, it can just kind of be a coming back down, you know, just a it's settling in, right, because this obviously isn't gonna last. So he's not necessarily gonna fall off and be a two hundred hitter, but you know he'll come back to earth a little bit obviously.
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Speaker 1: No, I know you love this guy. You know you're obsessed with this guy. I want to Nagstrain.
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Speaker 10: I am firmly on the de la cruise. I. I don't see him as a fourth outfielder. I see him as an everyday outfielder. I it confuses me how a player that's playing so well can be seen as a backup outfielder and honestly confuses me.
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Speaker 1: Go ahead, jump in there, keV.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 12: I mean, let's say they bringing Brian Reynolds, which possibility if they give up the right pieces. Brian Reynolds is on the team, would you still put in Dayla Cruz?
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Speaker 10: I mean, I haven't seen enough of Brian Reynolds to know, and I with the way, with.
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Speaker 1: The way, the answer is, you're not at this year.
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Speaker 12: He's hitting three, he's young, he hits well, he has good defense. I'll put him in over Dela Cruz.
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Speaker 1: But here's the thing.
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Speaker 10: Who's your third outfielder? Then you have Tayla Cruise. Who's your third is guys? Come on, I was about I was gonna. I was gonna move into how much I hate Alfaro and the fact that he's.
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Speaker 12: Actually one week now this weekend.
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Speaker 11: Come on after this week and I still love him in the future. Come on, I still want him gone.
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Speaker 5: Like the way I see it, the way I see it, they need to right now, Sanchez kind of like lifted the weight a little bit. Haesus Sanchez. Okay, you can for now put him in neither right or left. They need two outfielders. Brian Dayla Cruz. Putting him in as a starting outfielder for next year would be a mistake. But they are going to trade for a centerfolder at some point. That's just it's a given. They're either gonna.
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Speaker 12: Sign some kind of right field or left fielder.
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Speaker 5: Right they should sign cheap. It's gonna be an yea, a cheap sign and they're gonna do an expensive trade. And I think it's gonna be someone like Brian Reynolds, like you mentioned Kevin, so.
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Speaker 9: They're gonna do too.
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Speaker 5: And then you need a catcher. So no, Brianda la Cruz would be like the best fourth outfield in all the Major League baseball, but if you use him as a starter, you're not gonna win many ballas the.
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Speaker 1: Thing is, I think we're I think no, you know, if.
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Speaker 10: I wanted to go back to Hayesu Sanchez for a second before, yeah, go ahead, go ahead, Yeah, Hayesu Sanchez and Brian Anderson. Something I've noticed with the way they've been conducting there, that's they've been super patient. Brian Anderson's been working from an O two count to to three to two, like almost every single time he's come up at the plate, and I'm loving the way he's conducting himself at the plate, and the same with Hayesus Sanchez. He's working counts, he's he's seeing a lot of pitches and he's driving balls out. Now you can critique me on the daily Cruz fandom.
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Speaker 9: Oh sorry, Reynolds.
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Speaker 8: They're almost like the same age and like I think a year and a half apart. Reynolds is twenty six, Cruise is twenty four, but Cruise is turning twenty five this year, so they're relatively in the same age. If they're in the same age, I rather have someone more proven than Renolds in All Star. He has an ops about nine hundred. He's batting I think two ninety nine. Who's in Pittsburgh with the Pirates, just thinking about that getting that kind of production with other guys. Adam Frazer is gone. He's playing against a triple A, double A lineup every single day and it's just putting up just crazy numbers. Brian Reynolds is at the Marlon. I will be there every day. I would buy his jersey a thousand times. I'll be out outside looking for an autograph of Brian Reynolds.
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Speaker 9: If he came to the Marlins.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm looking at these numbers right now, man, I mean he's tremendous player. You know, eight ninety eight oh ps, one hundred and forty waight runs created plus ten point six percent walk great, nineteen point two percent k rate. Those are both things he never did really in the minors. Uh, it was pretty rare for him until like he got into double A and triple A and I mean he's just fantastic, uh, And he would be a great, great acquisition for the Marlins. And of course what it does is Okay, so now that locks up center field and then you got to find the two corner spots. Right, So Jesus Sanchez with his power to potential, you know you think, okay, that's pretty that's that's pretty much. Uh, that's in penn right, that's in pen and then in pencil you might have Brian de la Cruz, because you know, you have to see what happens when his these numbers are sustainable. Right, you know, nobody hits three fifty five in the major leagues anymore, and certainly nobody has a five h eight, you know, babit anymore. So these things are gonna come back down a little right, and it's like, how, yeah, babbit is the worst now, but you know, a hundred played appearances in for Dela Cruz, it's been a really good first impression. And I mean, I think Daniel mentioned it, you know, to trade away Yimmy Garcia and you get back either a starting right fielder, which I think they you know, depending on who they bring in right, like they could play it kind of like the Cooper Duvall situation at the beginning of the year, where you know, you wait and see if one guy kind of takes the reins from somebody else. But you know, man, that's a pretty good option to have for you me, Jimmy Garcia, Yeah, this is the This is a topic that I definitely want to get into when we start talking about the Mets, because you know, just just crazy. But what's going on there with Hobby and you know, I understand really disliking getting booed. But before we get there, you know, I want to keep talking Marlins. I really want to talk to Jeremy about Brian de la Cruz because I know he's been a huge advocate of him. As we kind of a wait, the wonderful, awesome spec Acular Jeremy Tashe from Valley Sports, Florida. I know all of us are super excited about having this guy on.
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Speaker 1: If you don't know.
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Speaker 4: Him, the digital reporter for Bally Sports, He's got the the uh, he's got his podcasts now Miami miked up. You know, he's doing all this stuff on ballet sports, and he's basically the more culturally aware, pop culturally aware, slightly older version of me. Jeremy and I get along really well, so really excited to have him on the stream here. You know about his work with Swings and Missus as well. But yeah, I'm super looking forward to talking to him, and I think we can all just kind of, you know, bounce questions off Jeremy. And one of the things I definitely want to ask him about is Brian de la Cruz. But as we stall until until Jeremy arrives, which we're expecting about five minutes from now.
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Speaker 13: I've got somebody, somebody give me something near to God I've got as well.
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Speaker 4: We'll get to the Mets, and we'll get to the Mets when Jeremy gets on here, because you know, we usually kind of go to the preview of the serial randed.
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Speaker 8: All right, I know it's Jackson, Alex Alex Jackson, Like, that's another guy I got traded for and we've heard almost nothing about him or seen anything. I think he had a home run in his debut or his debut series, and then from.
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Speaker 9: The space of the Earth, like, what's up with that guy? What I want to figure out about him?
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Speaker 11: Because we traded we traded it.
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Speaker 5: No, he can't hit. The guy he just he flat out can't hit. You know, can cash can't hit. I don't know what that trade was. Craig mischas you know, said of repeatedly, I don't know what they're thinking of that trade. Adam Duval was my smid season MVP for this team. He was a he will be a huge asset for any playoff team, especially the Braves. And I don't know that. You know, I'm not the president of basil Ops, I'm not a general manager. But that trade from the outside seemed a little peculiar for Alex Jackson, who you know, had is a twenty fourteen I think he does a fourteen draft pick and he just hasn't put it together offensively or defensively for that matter.
00:26:56
Speaker 9: So that was that one sucks.
00:26:58
Speaker 4: I've definitely, I've definitely sowered this one. You know, at the time, I was like, all right, you've all wasn't gonna be around next year. You know, take a flyer on a catcher at a position of need and year. Yeah, he could have been here, and I think the Marlins really should have made a better effort to keep him here. And Alex Garver, since we're on this topic, here we go. I finally I found somewhere to go talk to us about Peyton Henry because he's heating up in Jacksonville a little bit. He's the other catcher that the Marlins acquired at the trade deadline in the John Curtis trade, and so they kind of saw like, you know, these guys as possible backup options, you know, Jackson and Henry. But you know, Henry's making a play and it looks like he's playing pretty well down in Jacksonville right now.
00:27:41
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:27:42
Speaker 7: Oh been better for sure.
00:27:43
Speaker 6: Started out really really slow with the Marlins, and this past week he did really well in a couple of homers and power looks legitimate. It's just consistency of contact. Again, I say that about a lot of guys, But when guys are finishing out there, they're polished and trying to get to the majors. That's what you want to see is consistent contact. And Alex Jackson did that in Triple A with Guinnette this year. He was really really good for them. So I think it's a little too early to just say a guy can't do anything, he can't provide value. So, you know, maybe coming from me, that's a little easier to say, because you know, I guess I see these guys and just don't want to give up on a prospect right away. He was He was a top thirty prospect for for for the Braves, so obviously you know there's something there. Evaluators see something there, and I mean, he has good power.
00:28:25
Speaker 7: He just needs he needs to adjust. This major league pitching.
00:28:27
Speaker 6: We saw it say it about Jesus Sanchez, he says say it about this guy as well. Catchers always always, as you guys know, offense is the last thing to come because they're learning how to handle pitchers. And this is a brand new guy in the organization learning how to handle the pitchers. On the Marlins, based on the on the Miami Marlin, almost at Florida Marlins, the Miami Marlins.
00:28:46
Speaker 7: You know, that's what it is going to be.
00:28:48
Speaker 6: First is learning how to handle brand new pitchers in a brand new organization, and then you worry about the offense. So after a couple of months, man, I guess I think we think we got to go to the Aaron Rodgers route and relax a little bit on him. Yes, I know the rate is how you like, Yes for sure, but yeah it hasn't been good so far.
00:29:04
Speaker 7: But I just be a little bit patient with him and see what happens.
00:29:07
Speaker 6: But it's not gonna be a long leash, right because, as you just said, heating up right behind him, and they're probably going to address catcher further. I think they should in the off season, so definitely, you know, and if a catcher Wilson Contraras comes in, he's on the bench immediately.
00:29:21
Speaker 11: So if all if all, if all else fails, we can move into the outfield.
00:29:25
Speaker 4: Yeah, just switching out there like we like they did. I would love to see. I just think we're going to see like al Faro at shortstop before they end.
00:29:39
Speaker 10: I will run out on the field and drag him off the question.
00:29:43
Speaker 1: I would love to see that happen. Yeah, go ahead.
00:29:46
Speaker 6: The question is if Henry keeps going and keeps staying hot like this, then when do you.
00:29:51
Speaker 7: Pull the plug on Alex Jackson?
00:29:52
Speaker 6: Right, so, because you probably want to know who is Rule five eligible next year. By the way, guys, you'd want to see him at the league level. So that's the question. You know, how long do you give Jackson to prove that he can hit or you know, do well before you go to Henry? So that's your question. But yeah, I mean I think it will probably see Henry maybe September calls seehim, which I think we're gonna get.
00:30:14
Speaker 5: Yeah, Kevin and I were talking.
00:30:15
Speaker 1: Well, there is there is.
00:30:17
Speaker 4: We welcome in Jeremy Ta of Bally Sports, Florida. We are so glad to have you.
00:30:23
Speaker 1: Jeremy.
00:30:24
Speaker 4: All right, let's just start here, since we're kind of in the middle of floating around conversations, just your overall impressions, your kind of state of the Marlins right now a month left in the season, just about and just kind of you know what excites you. Obviously, I think the first thing I want to ask you about is Brian day La Cruz.
00:30:42
Speaker 13: Oh as you should first of all, thanks for just throwing a whole state at the Marlins at thirty seconds of being here, and I'll shoot my shot any time on this conversation.
00:30:53
Speaker 1: I love love you look so much like justin Timberlake in this video.
00:30:57
Speaker 13: Hey, thanks, that's me also talk so you hear my voice right now, I'll give you my general thoughts on the state of the Marlins in that you know, obviously, this season has not gone the way that anybody hoped at the major league level, right They've lost way more than any of us anticipated. They've lost more than any of us hoped, for sure, But there are still things I think to be optimistic about, and I don't think that it's foolish to do so. Sorry, I'm laughing my the own video. You guys are ridiculous. I just don't think that. I'm someone who tends to see this over lining on just about anything, and that's just in life, and so for me, I am constantly finding things within this franchise to be optimistic about. I think the big thing that happened that sort of stirred things off course was when everybody began to feel as though the major upgrades needed to happen right now this season. This deadline where in large part that was because last season, during the sixty game season, it was so successful. And so when you saw flashes from some young guys this year and you saw a team that obviously had some missing pieces, you don't want to see them sell everyone at the deadline.
00:32:27
Speaker 1: Again.
00:32:28
Speaker 13: That's the worst feeling from a fan perspective, right. You know, Fish Stripes is here for the fans, and from that perspective, anyone who's watching these games day in and day out, there's an understandable disappointment of where the major league franchise is at the very moment. That said, just the last week has given you so many different reasons to be hopeful. Whether that's Leywan Diez continuing to show out at the Triple A level, Jesus Sanchez coming into his own at the major league level, Brian de la Cruz continuing to hit the baseball at a high level. You know he'll he'll slump eventually, but that's it. It looks like a solid addition to your major league organization. You see Edward Cabrera's dominant debut, you see Jesus Zardo look like, okay, there's flashes a breath of fresh air. Right, you could take a deep breath more so than even like breath or fresh air positive, more of a deep breath of I don't have to feel negative. And then obviously Sandy continues to dominate, right and and you see Jazz continue to produce, and it's just you see the workings of what the structure can be. I think that what has everyone sort of on edge is can they and will they make the necessary three or four moves, whether that's through free agency, whether that's through trades, to take a core and turn it into a great team, right because you can have pieces here and there, but unless Jazz and Jesus make some sort of remarkable jump to next season, they are pieces on a winning team, not the center pieces right now of a winning team, and so you need to continue to add around them. But I don't think that right now I have any more reason to believe that the Marlins aren't in position to do so. Do I believe that they could have made some of those moves at the deadline, and it could have all of us in a bigger, a better space and have more morale And oh okay, well, the regular season record this year isn't reflective of where they're at, and sure they could have made those moves now, but we all know the twenty twenty two off season is now a huge offseason for them, and I think that until until you're put in a position to see that team and you actually see them not make the moves that we hope that they do and all of those things, I have to just from the optimistic perspective, hope that tweaks are on the way that they can, that can take the things that you feel positive about and actually elevate them to a to a positive morale because I think right now there's there's not a lot of spaces.
00:35:09
Speaker 4: To do with well, the thing I want to get into this will kind of lead into something I wanted to talk about today, which is Jake Eater goes down and requires Timmy John surgery. Right, and you mentioned the ability that they have to make the moves necessary. You know, we talked about Brian Reynolds earlier or something somebody else at the catcher position, some you know, a big move like that, right, and a lot of people thought that Jake Eater could be a piece in one of those straits. So Isaac, you know, how much does this hurt them? You know, in terms of their ability to make that move.
00:35:38
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well it shows you how important pitching depth is. You know, as we all say, you can have all all the pitching depth in the world, but you know, I don't think there's any such thing as enough. So you know, that hurts a lot. He was really, you know, coming into his own He's a top one hundred prospect now and he really was having like a phenomenal breakout season. There's a small chance we would have seen him maybe late September, probably not for sure, would have made his debut sometime next year. So it's tough for the kid. You know, he was really coming into it, and you know, it's gonna hurt the Marls a little bit. I don't know if you don want to think about it as like a possible trade chip that they had and maybe less likely now, but overall for the organization, it hurts. But I'm sure he'll come back stronger than ever.
00:36:13
Speaker 4: Alex this kid, I mean, he was maybe the best pitcher in minor league baseball this year.
00:36:19
Speaker 6: Yeah, Oh ridiculous, really tough to see. Man A nice kid, you know, I got to talk to him earlier this year. Really really nice kid. I hate I hate it for him, but this is what happens when you miss a full season and you're now expected to throw. I think he had seventy one innings and he had never thrown forty innings at all ever in his college career. So the innings took as they're toll on him. And this is what happens to young pitchers. It sucks, especially guys that throw like he does a lot of high effort pitches. So it sucks, man, But you know it's it's not the end of his career. You know, the Marlins have done a fantastic job bringing guys back from Tommy John Turgery. We can call out multiple names, Braxton, Jordan Holloway, you know a lot of them.
00:37:01
Speaker 7: A lot of the Marlins have.
00:37:02
Speaker 6: Brought back that could still be usable or a good major league pitchers. So he could still make his debut by the time he turns like twenty four. So it's gonna be fine, just as long as he can come back and stay healthy, which is a big thing. So hate it for him sucks, and we're not gonna get see him the rest of the year. He had ridiculous video game members, as he stated, But yeah, it's it's it's it's just a bump in the road for him, and I know, knowing his attitude, he'll come back and still be a great asset for the Marlins.
00:37:27
Speaker 7: So you know, what does it do for trade value?
00:37:30
Speaker 6: Honestly, it doesn't kill his trade value if you did want to move him, but the Marlins probably won't get what they would want out of him, So I don't think they're gonna move him. I think, as you said, they move on to other guys in the Marlins have so much pitching depth to deal from, starting with Meyer and and and other guys. Pablo, you can throw in there as well if you want, you if you want to go a major league guy. So yeah, it's it's it's probably he's gonna be a Marlin. But I'm fine with that.
00:37:53
Speaker 1: Jeremy, I see you itching to talk. Hey.
00:37:55
Speaker 13: Yeah, Well, just the one thing on on the trade value that's interesting is I do think that there's a chance that this could influence whether or not Jake Eater is the singular centerpiece of a trade, right, So if there could have been a world where you were swapping Jake Eater, say, you know, it's like the Max Meyer, Brandon marsh thing or something like that where it was Eater instead and you're doing one for one or even using Eater as the main pitchure with supplementary even younger guys behind him, I think that trade might be out the window. Sure, But do I think that if you were to be making a big blockbuster trade Eater is just one of multiple pitchers going over to an organization, does it change the value there much? Probably not, because if an organization is acquiring multiple young pitchers to try to develop over a couple of years, yes, this changes his ETA and it affects things. He could have been a guy that was making a debut next season, and if a team was itching to get those prospects out there, obviously that helps. But with the overall value of what this guy is. This isn't a major shoulder surgery. This is Tommy John, and we've seen I mean, it feels like fifty percent of major league pitchers have had that surgery at some point. It's almost a right of passage to be a great major league pitcher and have Tommy John surgery at this point. So that's that's the one element of the trade value that I think is is important to look at is maybe he's not the centerpiece, but he could still be supplementary.
00:39:18
Speaker 4: Well, it feels like there's a few more pitchers within this wor Lands organization that are gonna need it eventually, right Like you know, Sixto has his shoulder surgery, Tommy John is definitely within his future.
00:39:30
Speaker 1: Eddie Cabrera.
00:39:31
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they're you know, they're they're it's it's imminent for some of these guys. And some of these guys do it early in their careers to get it out of the way and and then look what happens to it justin Berland or you know, some of these guys that come back from Tommy John and they're throwing hundred, you know, one hundred hundred.
00:39:47
Speaker 1: And two into the eighth and ninth inning.
00:39:49
Speaker 4: So, Daniel, the question, the first thing I thought of right away is, you know, obviously the old saying goes, you can never have enough pitching. But the other thing is you can never have you know, you only have pitching depth until you trade it all away or it gets hurt, right.
00:40:09
Speaker 8: Yeah, And with the Marlins, when you look at all their guys, especially in their pitching prospects at top three, I believe in all of the minor league system farm systems, guys like Mike Smeyer, and I think a guy that probably might get traded is Kyle Nicholas, who's just been almost just going off. I think if he have a sub one era recently, he's brought it down I think with a Player of the week, and that's a guy that Marlins Tran should really keep an eye on because if he continues the way that he's going, especially this season, I think that's a guy that could probably or maybe most likely will get traded for a piece like what Jeremy said, maybe a one on one or maybe bringing an outfielder to Miami and maybe Kyle Nicholas can just help get Miami over the edge in terms of getting a really good outfeld and maybe all star quality someone like that, if you just throw in someone like Kyle Nicholas and just sweeten the deal.
00:41:01
Speaker 1: Kevin, whether you know either way you look at it.
00:41:04
Speaker 4: First of all, by the way, shout out to your Donald Carmona, my boy in the chat here, Thanks for hanging out, Thanks for coming along. Great great, just great to have you around. So, Kevin, you know, does this what either way you look at it right. Does it make you more scared or more excited that the Marlins might trade Max Meyer in the off season.
00:41:24
Speaker 12: It's a little bit of both. I mean, you could get a center fielder like Brian Reynolds, like we talked about early in the show. This opens actually the window for Max Meyer's possibly to getting traded even more now because you you're looking to trade either most likely over Mayer at this point. I mean, and now it's going to be Meyer. Most likely he almost got dealt for Brandon Marsh as we saw it wasn't Eater. I mean, I don't think Eater would have made it enough to get Brandon Marsh at this point. Possibly you may have had to add another guy in there in that deal. But now you have Max Meyer possibly getting dealt this offseason. Most likely it's going to be for an outfielder. It would shock me if it's for a picture or even a bullpen guy, it would be pretty shocking in that case. But yeah, it sucks to see this guy going down. I would be a little bit excited, but scared now that you know a guy you invested a very high pick in, like Mike and that you know was it was it pick.
00:42:11
Speaker 9: Number five three three three.
00:42:13
Speaker 12: That was a very high draft pick. You've invested in this guy. You really have to make sure you if you trade him, you have to make sure this trade is gonna help you right now instead of the future, because if you really wanted help for the future, you would keep Maximyer and you would let him come up next year. I mean, we have to see what happens, but it's gonna be interesting. I don't think Eater gets traded now after the trade, even after the injury, but it's a it's a big possibility he could still maybe get traded. I just don't see it happening at least in this offseason. Maybe the trade deadline next year, now that's a possibility. If he's back by then, max Meyer possibly getting traded, it's gonna happen. I think it's gonna happen. If it's for a guy like Reynolds, it's gonna make sense. Right, even if you include Stallings in that deal, which has been a possibility too, they're gonna want Maximyer even more just.
00:43:00
Speaker 6: Because you see the names at the bottom of the screen, And just to call it out on mccambley and Nicholas, I always I said this, I think during the show right after they were both called up a little bit, you know.
00:43:10
Speaker 7: After each other.
00:43:12
Speaker 6: You know, the timing of their call ups to Double A was like so weird. They were both not doing well at all and Boyd like not at all, like I think a couple of I think Nicholas is like two of his last three starts to give up six runs and then like his last star before you call.
00:43:27
Speaker 7: Up and give up three homers, so like, and then he.
00:43:29
Speaker 6: Gets called up and of course he's doing great now in Trouble A, which is great to see. And then mccambley, I think they called him up when Peter and Meyer went to the futures game because they needed somebody to pitch, and he's still there. So I really think that the Martins are showcasing those guys at the upper levels of the minors to suitors. I really believe that.
00:43:46
Speaker 7: I think one or both of those names gets traded in the off season.
00:43:50
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's interesting, and you know, you talk about Max. Kevin talked about Max, you know, possibly being a part of the rotation next year, but who knows if there's even a spot for him, you know, with six Dough and Edward and Pablo and Trevor and Sandy and Lizardo and all these guys. I mean, you know where to get these guys even fit in? So Jeremy, you know, I guess wrap up this little conversation we're having here, and then I want to ask you specifically about Brian Ella Cruz because he touched on him, but I want to get a full answer from you on him. But just kind of wrap up on how did the Marlins handle all these arms? I mean, some guys have to go to the pen, right like sure?
00:44:30
Speaker 13: I mean, look when you saw I'll use an example of the Tampa Bay Rays when they first burst onto the scene in terms of establishing what's really been a ten.
00:44:45
Speaker 1: To fifteen year one year of being.
00:44:47
Speaker 13: Competitive, which is crazy to think about that they've really not been bad for any stretch of the last decade or so. But when they did that, and they were a pitching staff with James Shields and mac Garza and all those guys, and they called up David Price. David Price was used as a reliever until Starter's left in free agency and he became the next starter. And I do think that when you are developing as much pitching as is in the system right now. If there were no moves made, there comes a point where you just have to be throwing all of your best arms. And so yeah, could I see a world where, like next year, Max Meyers used as a late inning leverage guy if he doesn't make the rotation initially, especially maybe in like June or July, if they're competing as opposed to right at the beginning of the season. Sure, I don't think that's impossible if a number of these guys are still there. And I also I'm not like eager to trade all these arms from the system. I do think that everybody's putting a little bit of cart before the horror and forgetting. You just see today that Jake Eeter gets hurt. That could happen to two guys in the It's like running backs with acls.
00:46:08
Speaker 1: You guys can go down at any time.
00:46:10
Speaker 13: And having ten legitimately electric arms in your system is not a bad thing when you're running your team like a small market team, It's just not a bad thing to have that many arms. I'd much prefer to see the Marlins just spend to get a centerfielder and a catcher and keep all these arms and let's move on, right.
00:46:31
Speaker 1: Of course, everybody would prefer that.
00:46:33
Speaker 13: So when you talk about managing all of them, I'm happy to have too many arms and have a surplus of arms. Where certain guys are throwing in triple A that you're just like, how is this possible? And they're getting called up later in the year. That being said, when you are managing it, obviously you have your three guys in Pablo, Trevor and Sandy. After that, it should be a legitimate competition, and whoever is the best it should be your starting rotation, and you should figure out your minor league system and who makes or doesn't make your bullpen from their period next season.
00:47:11
Speaker 1: So I don't care if.
00:47:12
Speaker 13: It's a young guy who you're starting a clock and somebody else who should be there and maybe isn't. I don't care if Eliezer gets beat out, you figure it out. Yeah, And to me, you should just be as competitive as possible starting in twenty two.
00:47:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
00:47:27
Speaker 6: Quick follow up. We know that Don Mattingly is basically a traditionalist, right you know, he's an all time baseball guy. He manages games that way. We know that this question was asked to him, I think by a member of the media. I forgot who it was, but it was on Twitter that he said that he would consider six men rotation. Is that at all in the realm of possibility in twenty twenty two.
00:47:50
Speaker 13: Yeah, I don't think it's impossible when they've talked about considering it. I think it's something they've actually considered. Like, I don't think that that's lip service during spring training when we've heard that, and maybe maybe it is. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm being persuaded, But for the last couple of years, you know, there's been seemingly real talk of a six man rotation because of some of these young guys, and then by default, because of injuries, they just haven't been there and so there's been no need to do it.
00:48:19
Speaker 1: And then you get.
00:48:19
Speaker 11: Into the regular season for most of the season.
00:48:21
Speaker 13: Yeah, when you get used to a five man rotation, it's hard to sort of institute that in the middle of the year and also throw off the rhythms of guys like Sandy or Trevor or whoever. They're used to starting every single day. So if they were in a position next year where you all of a sudden it's the three guys we just said, and they decide, hey, hey, Zeus, Edward and six do we want all of you? You know, I don't think it's impossible that they could do a six man rotation, particularly to limitittings. So yeah, I think that's in the realm of possibility, despite you know, a traditional Don Maddingly, he also this year said how much he likes all of these wacky rules that they've instituted over the last couple of years, and that he just the other day said that he wants instruments being given out at the beginning of games every single time people walk into Marlin.
00:49:08
Speaker 9: You know.
00:49:09
Speaker 13: So yeah, I mean like he's evolving. I don't see why the Marlins couldn't on a six man vitation front either. Yeah, and you know, none of us even touched on guys like Eliezer and you know, Jordan Holloway and Zach Thompson, Brax, some of the Nick Nider, you know, some of these other names, Cody Petit, yep, that's the one I was thinking of as well, Castano, you know some of these other guys that you can fit all of these guys in there, and you know, obviously some of them will be depth at the Triple A level.
00:49:42
Speaker 4: Some of them will be you know, bullpen help. But I mean it's it's crazy. So but all right, Jeremy, you love this guy. We talked about him a little bit earlier and basically the question was fourth outfielder or penciled in as a starter next year.
00:49:57
Speaker 1: Brian de la Cruz talks to us.
00:50:00
Speaker 13: I'm not gonna say pencilman is a starter right away, Okay, I'm not.
00:50:04
Speaker 1: I'm not going to.
00:50:07
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, like, look, I think that Brian de la Cruz is a really good baseball player.
00:50:12
Speaker 1: I think he is.
00:50:14
Speaker 13: You know how you remember like Pokemon evolutions, right of course, and there was you know, there's like Charmander, and you can get to Charis Ard through Charmellion.
00:50:25
Speaker 1: It's like if.
00:50:25
Speaker 13: Harold Ramirez was Charmander Armander, right, then Charmelion is Bri Cruz.
00:50:37
Speaker 1: That's an important chars Michael Brantley, Okay, okay, comparison say that.
00:50:44
Speaker 13: All right, So we'll say these sort of complete players in a way, like have all the tools in a way, but aren't always going to show all of them off. But the thing that I've been I've really enjoyed about Brian de la Cruz is like, it doesn't really seem to matter where the ball is pitched.
00:51:04
Speaker 1: He's just hitting the ball where it's pitched.
00:51:08
Speaker 13: And I know that that really is an oversimplification of hitting, but when you've seen so many guys come up and be totally incapable of doing that, it is a breath of fresh air, as we mentioned before, to see someone come up and have real major league at bats. And I know that that just see like I understand what I'm saying is almost a backhanded compliment, but I don't intend it to be. I think that Brian day la Cruz is a terrific, terrific defensive center fielder. I think that his luck in terms of hitting the ball has certainly been high, as you can see on the bottom line of this right now. But I also think that when you're a guy, sometimes, like I won't say it's better lucky to be good, but.
00:51:50
Speaker 1: I think you also sometimes create your own luck.
00:51:52
Speaker 13: Like your type of approach does affect your batting average on balls in play. When you're hitting the ball hard to all fields, that's different than just hitting fly balls every single time you're up and hoping it goes out of the ballpark. And how many guys have we seen come up for the Marlins do that, just try to hit the ball as hard as they can every single time in the air. And all they've yeah, they've struggled. I mean they all, like almost all of them. And so Brian ey la Cruz was, for what it's worth, not top in the Marlins minor league system over.
00:52:23
Speaker 1: Here now hitting the baseball.
00:52:25
Speaker 13: And I don't even mean that, I don't even mean that to be a criticism of the Marlins.
00:52:28
Speaker 1: But he's showing up and he's hitting.
00:52:32
Speaker 13: And don't get me wrong, I don't think that he's going to be a three point fifty hitter ever, you know, forever.
00:52:39
Speaker 1: But I do think that when you.
00:52:45
Speaker 13: The type of approach that Brian day la Cruz has is perfect for a fourth outfielder.
00:52:49
Speaker 1: But it's also great if if you're.
00:52:52
Speaker 13: A good team and he's playing left field and batting eighth, Like he's playing left field and batting eighth on a bad team and he's hitting the ball better than anybody else in the lineup. But if he was your left fielder and batting eighth on a line up, in a lineup that was legitimately productive. He's actually kind of a stereotypically perfect eight hitter on one of those types of teams.
00:53:14
Speaker 4: Yeah, bat on the ball and not to mention that, you know, the next year, right, if he's hitting eighth, he doesn't have the picture behind him in all likelihood because the DH is probably gonna be around, so he'll probably have I think Miguel Rojas is a great option to hit ninth. You know, he's a guy that can turn the lineup over really well. Dy La Cruz could be an option to turn the line over lineup over as well, so you know, it makes a big difference. But I mean, look at you know, fuck will put some numbers on it and wrap it up. Eight sixty three ohps one hundred and thirty seven way to runs create ave plus only at twenty six percent k rate, so it feels like he's been king a lot, but not at an astronomical level like we've seen from other prospects that come up. He's about a twenty percent k rate guy in the minors, so can expect it to go down even a little more. Only a six percent walk grate. You'd like to see that go up a little bit but you know, good numbers a little more power if he can tap into it, get a little stronger, and maybe he can make that evolution into chars arts.
00:54:11
Speaker 6: So, Michael Bradley, interesting DLC stat before you move on Ethan. Yeah, among guys with over one hundred at bats in Major League Baseball, Branda la Cruz has the second highest batting average by balls and play four seventy for the season.
00:54:25
Speaker 7: There's one guy higher than him. Guess so it is Michael Brandley, Brandon Marsh.
00:54:37
Speaker 1: That's perfect.
00:54:37
Speaker 4: You know what, since we're talking about Brandon Marx, let's give a little bit of update on him because I think all Marlins fans that are really tuned into the team are going to be following him pretty closely the rest of the year. And it's looking a lot better. You know, I saw him go deep the other night. Twenty He's hitting two seventy nine hundred nine during his creative plus nine point eight walk percentage, so pretty good, you know, hovering around ten percent. K raid astronomical thirty nine point two ops. He does have one home run so far. Uh so, you know, keeping up with him, watching it get a little better every day. The k raid is obviously really really high. It's above anything he's ever done in the minor leagues, so it'll it should come down to earth a little bit. But that's a guy Marlins fans you've gotta absolutely keep an eye.
00:55:26
Speaker 1: On, because we all know he was after being traded for me. Yeah exactly. The entire show would be about that.
00:55:32
Speaker 4: Yeah, exact exactly, So you know, certainly a guy to keep an eye on, you know, as we head into the off season, because that trade could certainly be in play. So all right, we're getting towards seven o'clock. Usually that would be like prediction time, but we've got a little more time here because the Marlins don't actually play tonight. So let's talk about this Mets series coming up. So the Marlins haven't seen the Mets in what feels like forever, and let's just all go ahead and just now, Eli, go ahead and take a picture of us all hitting the Obviously, the Mets they just can never get out of their own way. It seems like every single year, right, they have something like this. It's just crazy to me. It's just and it's not even like, you know, a huge controversy. It's like the dumbest controversy that anyone could ever possibly imagine.
00:56:23
Speaker 1: Guy like that, guy, don't you know what it is?
00:56:26
Speaker 4: It is a controversy because now it's on the it's on the tabloids, it's on the back page of of you know, the New York Post or whatever.
00:56:33
Speaker 1: It's a big deal.
00:56:35
Speaker 4: And and it seems like something like this happens to the Mets every single year. And I guess it's pretty perfect that a Mets fan bought the team and it's still happening to them because Steve Cohen has probably lived this his entire you know, hedge fun uh, you know, illegal life or whatever you want to call it. But I mean, it's just crazy to me that they can never get out of their own way. They have this whole thing hobby bias comes in who we all know has a big personality, clearly doesn't like to be booed and I wouldn't like to be booed either. Obviously in New York you're gonna get that a little more than in other places. But man, I mean I can't understand the Mets frustrations. You know, they they've had a really tough year and they need an extra motivator, you know, and and their fans gave it to them.
00:57:25
Speaker 9: You know.
00:57:25
Speaker 4: I remember, I'm a Gator fan obviously, and I remember like Felipe Franks, he was hated by the fans up here. They gave him so much shit and he, you know, he got benched one game and then he comes back and he scored a touchdown and he's just the crowd. And I personally loved it, like I thought it was great. Fans were pissed off at it because fans never like when they're called out for doing, you know, things bad. But we're allowed to call you know, players out whenever they do anything. So who wants the floor here?
00:57:58
Speaker 13: Uh?
00:57:58
Speaker 4: You know, I think Noah had a rant in store, So no, go ahead, man.
00:58:03
Speaker 10: So I have to preface this, preempt this with My father's a Mets fan and has been his entire life. So the Mets are kind of a third team for me. It's for me, it's the Marlins, the Orioles, and interesting the Orioles.
00:58:20
Speaker 11: Because my family is very close with Dan Duquet.
00:58:26
Speaker 10: I am I'm laughing here as a Marlins fan at what's going on. I'm disgusted as a third team Mets fan. You don't do that in New York, you just don't. Chicago, Okay, you can do that, you don't do that in New York. Ever, you can't get away with that, especially when your team went from first place to third in a matter of weeks and you're going like this to the crowd because they're booing you because you suck.
00:59:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you know, No, that's a good point because I've kind of been all admit, I've been kind of pro player on this, especially because you guys know I love hobby.
00:59:10
Speaker 1: I've been a little pro player on this. But it's a good point.
00:59:12
Speaker 4: Like, of all places, New York and Philly probably right, Like, that's where you can't do it, Jeremy, I see.
00:59:20
Speaker 1: You itching to get in here. Go ahead.
00:59:21
Speaker 13: I just think that I don't understand why it's a problem for anyone. Why can't the Mets fans do the things that Mets fans do, and why can't Hovey Baias and Francisco lindor Yeah, put their thumbs down and everyone hope that it means that they win. Be the most perfect, just the most perfect Mets season for the fans and the players to hate each other on.
00:59:49
Speaker 5: A way to the world.
00:59:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you have never seen a more New York Mets thing.
00:59:58
Speaker 4: No, definitely at a especially like Noah mentioned going from first to third in a matter of weeks, Like, yeah, it's perfect, just if that's what it takes.
01:00:07
Speaker 13: If the thumb's down is something that's uniting the players.
01:00:10
Speaker 1: Like the fans should let it go.
01:00:12
Speaker 13: Have thicker skin, if you expect the players to have thick skin, like they can't give it. It's not like they were giving fans the bird like it's a thumbs down.
01:00:21
Speaker 4: In fact, really hilarious from a Mets fan if a team instead of loveste went into just flicking guys up. Yeah, like it's I just don't understand why it's that big of a deal to the fan, Like they're so offended that. Oh, and what it is is it's an outsider thing. It's Hotsbaias and Francisco Lindor aren't guys who have been there for a while. If you know mister hero who played like twelve games, David Wright, you know would have stepped back on a field ever and been out there doing the same thing after he got booed because he couldn't play, then everybody would have been fine. David Wright's a hero, But Hoby Bias and Francisco Lindor are foreign to me.
01:01:05
Speaker 1: Did you just.
01:01:06
Speaker 4: Hop on here and crush David Right for no reason?
01:01:10
Speaker 1: For no reason, for no reason? Because I love David Right. He's one of my favorite players I ever watched.
01:01:14
Speaker 13: The kid When he was at the Mets, he was the best, awesome, what a class act.
01:01:17
Speaker 1: I love him.
01:01:18
Speaker 4: But if he would have done his career ruined like headed, I love it completely and utterly out of his control.
01:01:27
Speaker 13: But it's a way to take a swipe at Mets fans. Insane, just relax, like, and if it was if it was Jacob de Gram making those jokes, they wouldn't care because he'd been there long enough to have earned their.
01:01:41
Speaker 10: Like he also can't play right now because he's injured.
01:01:45
Speaker 13: So cool, right, but right, you understand, Yeah, but you understand what I'm saying in terms of Bias and Lindor, Like, those two specific guys are the dudes who could not do this, And that's why Mets fans are so mad because they're the one. But if the whole team was in on it, like I think that that's part of it, is, Like if this became a team wide thing, I actually don't think Mets fans would be mad. That's the irony is that if if this was everyone, they wouldn't care. But because it's specifically the guys who they don't think are performing to the expectations that they have specifically from the stands, not you know, the whole team's losing.
01:02:18
Speaker 1: It's not just Tabibayas and Francisco Lindor losing. It's the whole team. And if the whole.
01:02:22
Speaker 13: Team was united, they wouldn't care. It's just it's an irony that I can't really get past there.
01:02:27
Speaker 1: I don't know.
01:02:27
Speaker 4: And like I said earlier, it's pretty entitled fan to boo somebody, right and then get mad when somebody boos you back, like you know what I mean, quietly, So on.
01:02:39
Speaker 10: One more thing on the Marlins have a perfect opportunity here to just crush Mets fans spirits by by by taking the season series. It just would be the icing on the real cake for for Marlins fans to just, oh.
01:02:55
Speaker 4: Perfect, the Marlins see the Mets a lot down the stretch, just you know, go go ahead, Alex.
01:03:01
Speaker 1: But we'll talk about it in a second.
01:03:03
Speaker 6: Yeah, just a quick thing for me on this what I agree with what Jeremy said. You know, you're gonna boo the crap out of the guy when he's sucking, and then he does something good and he can't do the same thing back to you, like, get over yourself. What can't happen on that team is what their owner is doing and going on Twitter and calling out players publicly on Twitter.
01:03:22
Speaker 11: That's horrendous that I think that hilarious.
01:03:25
Speaker 6: I mean, that's so bad that the owner of the team, and you said it, Ethan, that he came in. He's a lifelong Mets fan. He wants the team to succeed. Of course he does. He wouldn't have bought the team and put all this money into the team if he didn't want that to happen. But then when things aren't going right, you're gonna go slander your own employees on Twitter. Like I wouldn't want my boss to do that to me. I doubt Jeremy would want his boss to do that to him. Ethan, you wouldn't want Eli to do that to you. Of Course, these guys are playing a competitive sport, and you know winning is what matters most, especially to a team that's really going for it, right, but you can't go on letter and just slander players like that.
01:04:01
Speaker 7: That was horrendous.
01:04:03
Speaker 6: I hated to see that for everybody in that organization, even though it's the Mets. And I guess you can kind of look at it and say it has same old Mets, but that's just that's so bad.
01:04:11
Speaker 4: Anyways, Kevin, let's let's so that's gonna be hovering over the Mets all series, right, and this is a four game series, yeah for sure. And and you know four game series starts tomorrow with this weird doubleheader, right. So it picks up in the middle of an at bat, I'm pretty sure, and it was Corey Dickerson's at bat, who obviously is no longer on the team, so it'll it'll probably be Jesus Sanchez or Brian de la Cruz I would imagine, and Corey Dickerson's spot. And then there are five players I think not no longer on the team. Yeah, five of the nine on the team, including the starting pitcher. So John Curtis started the game because the Marlins knew what was gonna happen, didn't want to didn't want to burn an arm. Yeah, did not throw a pitch. I don't even think we got through the top of the first inning. Yeah, I know that Jazus Aguilar batted right.
01:05:06
Speaker 7: And then and then they call the game.
01:05:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Marte, who's the runner on firstson was the runner on first, so Jesus Sanchez. I think the Marlins should get to borrow Starling Marte for the day, so like, not for not just for this game, Like they should get him for the day, right, so he gets to play both games for the Marlins and then go back to Oakland. I think that's how that works. I hope that's how that works. In fact, why don't you just keep you know, he can't go back to Oakland too much travel, just keep him for the rest of the season. So that would be that would be really great if the Marlins could end up with Starling Marte for the rest of the season. But he's on technically on the lineup, they're just gonna replace all these guys. That's within the rule book that they can just replace all the guys. So Marte will be out, is gonna have.
01:05:55
Speaker 11: To bat six, and Nigga's gonna have to bat seven.
01:05:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Jazz will I know, don't know who what the lineup was like, I know it's duval Marte Dickerson and did Walleck throw on that back? So Isaac, I know you haven't been a fan. I've heard from you that you don't like these seven inning games, So why not I I personally am a fan of them, But why not?
01:06:22
Speaker 5: Well, I know they're like convenient. You know, you have a double header, you have pictures and you to take care of. I understand that. You know it is convenient to the manager and everything, But you know what the Little League World Series and on those the litt League World serieses on those games are six innings. My high school baseball games and Jerry's high school baseball games are seven innings, you know in the minor league. But double headers are also seven innings. This is Major league baseball, guys. That has never been a seven inning game ever, unless you know it was like cut out because of brain. I think you know there's major leagues you play nine innings.
01:06:46
Speaker 6: You can do that.
01:06:47
Speaker 5: You can call up us an extra roster guy for those double headers. I think there's no reason that we shouldn't be having nine inning double headers. They used to be scheduled back in the day. They used to be scheduled double headers that were nine innings, So I don't know why we can't continue with that, but hey, that was a that was a COVID thing that they did in twenty twenty, which I'm sure was you know, that was smart. But I think now that we're back in you know, twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, I would go back to the you know, the traditional baseball rules.
01:07:08
Speaker 4: But that's all say this as Cubs Cubs fan, as baseball purists, I want the scheduled double.
01:07:14
Speaker 1: Header back rightly badly.
01:07:16
Speaker 4: And that's kind of why I wanted like the seven inning because it just made more sense.
01:07:20
Speaker 1: Don't have to eat as many innings.
01:07:22
Speaker 4: Jeremy, you're nahn at the bit right here, man, you're reading get in here.
01:07:26
Speaker 1: Talk to me. Well, I just I love, I like.
01:07:30
Speaker 13: I think the scheduled seven inning double header should be something done.
01:07:33
Speaker 1: Once a month, a month, once a month. It'd be great because they are or whatever.
01:07:39
Speaker 13: But we talk about and I and Isaac I agree with you in the general sense of nine in the game major League baseball, how it's always been played. Right on the flip side, starting pitchers are going four innings and we're calling that a good thing like this is not. This is not the same major League baseball.
01:07:58
Speaker 1: It's not. And until it is, then what does it matter.
01:08:01
Speaker 13: If you're playing the occasional game that's a couple of innings less, the records don't mean anything ever since the steroid era.
01:08:06
Speaker 1: The records certainly.
01:08:07
Speaker 13: Don't mean anything in the version of baseball that we're playing now, because you're gonna have guys at this rate. You'll have a guy hitting two eighty five leading the league and hitting in a few years like I mean very seriously.
01:08:18
Speaker 4: Counting stats are just yeah, years in the past.
01:08:24
Speaker 13: And so if you're talking about making something that's a more entertaining product that you're trying to get people to be there, I'd rather go to a Sunday scheduled or even a Saturday scheduled. Now a few games that are seven innings a piece, I'm getting a couple of results, Especially if people started treating it like the Marlins treated it last year, where Sandy was throwing complete games in seven inning games, like if teams were treating seven inning games like we did in high school, like you mentioned, where the ace was going out there and throwing a and it's two guys head to head. You've got seven innings, and so in your brain you can game plan. You know what, Yeah, I can get through seven innings. We're gonna do this in you're seeing and four pitchers really go at it for the day with a closer. Maybe that's fun, like, and it's you started scheduling those, that's fun, man. Especially imagine a four like imagine a four game weekend series Saturday Sunday.
01:09:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, four doubleheaders.
01:09:16
Speaker 13: With starters going at the you know, once a month, and you're building off days around it, so that that way, like you know that that's your doubleheader weekend, and it's happening all across Major League Baseball, and you've got programming like the Sunday Ticket where you can go back and forth between all these games and they're starting at eleven am and they're ending it. You know, men, I just think that there's such an opportunity because seven INNY games feel like you're snorting baseball like it.
01:09:42
Speaker 1: It's crazy how innings. It's crazy how eliminating two innings changes so much.
01:09:47
Speaker 4: So I wish I thought about them during covid is.
01:09:50
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy.
01:09:53
Speaker 4: How you're right, how much just two knocking two innings off the game makes it so much shorter and changes the strategy so much.
01:10:00
Speaker 10: And I want to will say about like the seven inning double header and the nine inning doubleheader, if you're gonna do seven inning games, you have to pair it with another game. You can't do two separate seven innings. You can't do the day night like we're having tomorrow with the first game at seven, at first game at one, which is gonna be nine eggs, and then the regular paid seven o'clock game is only seven innings.
01:10:25
Speaker 11: I know, So it doesn't it.
01:10:27
Speaker 4: Doesn't make any sense to me to you know, if you're gonna continue this game to then play seven innings. But this this one is certainly a weird one. But I want to get into what the how the Marlin should handle this tomorrow because there's the early game and that's a nine inning game and they need a starting pitcher, and then there's the seven inning game. So I think it's probably Eliezer and Edward am I right?
01:10:56
Speaker 11: Yeah, that second game with complete.
01:10:59
Speaker 1: Game Thompson is listed.
01:11:01
Speaker 4: Well, okay, they ESPN has this all off because they haven't because they have that game probably as like the April game on their schedule. But so Eliezer and Cabrera are the guys. So, Kevin, which one are you starting in the nine inning game? And which one are you starting in the seven inning game?
01:11:17
Speaker 12: The nine inning game is the first one. Uh yeah, probably Edward, and then I want to see, as Noah said, Eliezer shut out in the seventh and seven innings. That'd be nice. No, yeah, Edward. I think it makes sense for him. They going the first one. Uh, you know, it's the game already started to it just makes more sense to put Edward in there. It doesn't really matter which one you put where either, but I think you want to see Edward go nine innings. Alias has already been proven. You know, you want to see what the guy does in a nine inning game. I think John Curtis didn't even pitch, so we'll just have to see what happens. I mean, Edward's gonna make his bullpen debut for the Marlins.
01:11:55
Speaker 4: At least technically. Yeah, yeah, technically, have about it. So my question is, Okay, Eliezer, we know he's kind of a five six maybe guy, right, So do you want that five maybe six in a seven inning game? Or would you rather that in a nine inning game, and then maybe you get a chance, you know, if Edward pitches well at a complete game or you only have to use one bullpen arm.
01:12:21
Speaker 8: I think I would use Eliezer in the seven inning game probably could.
01:12:25
Speaker 9: I think you get a lot from me if you put him in there.
01:12:27
Speaker 8: I think he can probably give you a complete game, if not maybe six innings, throwing bender in the seventh wanting to have that game, but I think you'd rather have Eddie being the longer game, being a nine inning game. He still has a fresh arm coming up in the majors, only pitch one game, and I think you throw him in there in the night in nine in game he'll give you a solid six seven and maybe even give you a complete game of nine. And who knows, especially this season, but I think the safe bet will be elie iSER for seven and then have Eddie for the nine inning game.
01:12:58
Speaker 4: Well, the one thing you really don't want on is you don't want the first game to get away from you, right because you don't want to fry your bullpen for the second game and then the rest of the series and the Marlins don't have an off day for the rest of the week, right, Alex.
01:13:11
Speaker 6: Yeah. My My argument for the other way to go with Eddie in the shorter game would be this, get sit in the dugout and look at these Mets hitters, right yeah, look at what you're going, Look at what they're swinging at, look at what they're not swinging at. Is this guy making a second start? And then as you said, you can't burn the bullpen. That's that can't happen. So yeah, I would I if it's me personally, I would go with Eliezer in the first game and Edward in the second game just to let him stop the hitters a little bit. That's me.
01:13:39
Speaker 5: Right right before I know Jeremy might have to leave. So I just want to like finish that argument you're having really quick, you know, because it's been on the two of my son, so you know it kind of doesn't it like delegitimize a little bit, like if you have started selling seven inning games? Sorry, like cha off topic, but is a is a full? Is a no hitter in a seventy eight game?
01:13:55
Speaker 9: And no hitter mat b mat Ma? Absolutely, how can the game finished? It's over? They game, no letter.
01:14:06
Speaker 1: No hitters are so devalued in this game. Yeah. No, that's a good point, especially this year.
01:14:11
Speaker 13: The only argument that we might have is a seven inning perfect game, right, because there's so few of those, to where if you have a seven inning perfect game, are you counting that as a perfect game, to which I would argue no, because a perfect game is so rare and is twenty seven outs, and that is something that's different. I'll give a seven inning perfect game a no hitter, right, or and then a seven inning no hitter. I'll also give the no hitter because the no hitter is so de value. There's been like twelve of them this season because guys strike out so much.
01:14:43
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so you have been on seven inning games though, like they are more free.
01:14:47
Speaker 13: Yeah, no, and the and they're of course, But I just think that, yeah, like if you're talking about those specific records, sure, like you're right, some of those things are going to go away, Like it stinks, But I also like I've seen so much of the game that like I'm a few years older, like me and Alex I think are closer to the same age, right, but I think.
01:15:10
Speaker 6: I'm older than you.
01:15:10
Speaker 13: But yeah, no, but you and I honestly you and I saw a different game than everybody else here because of a few years of age.
01:15:20
Speaker 1: When we watched his kids was different than what you guys watched.
01:15:24
Speaker 4: Even me, man, I mean, you know, I'm a few years younger than you guys, and I the game I watched in two thousand and eight, even until like the stat cast arrow right until let's say, like twenty fifteen changed. Yeah, I think that everything really that's when everything really kind of changed.
01:15:42
Speaker 1: And uh, you know.
01:15:44
Speaker 6: When I was through Jeremy's point, when I when I was growing up and going to games at the Old Stadium, and I was there when Al Lighter threw his no hitter against the Colorado Rockies. It was like the biggest thing ever. Like people were screaming, yelling, leaving the stadium, like it was probably next to the World Series games, Like the most rowdy Marlins game I've ever been to. And I don't think you'll ever see something like that again, just because it's happening so often.
01:16:11
Speaker 7: It's happening.
01:16:12
Speaker 6: You know, you got seven inning games that it's happening and now, and when he did it, it was like, of course it was the first one in Marlins history.
01:16:19
Speaker 7: It had never been done it's an expansion of franchise, and.
01:16:22
Speaker 6: People were so about it, and then now it's happening, it's like, oh, yeah.
01:16:25
Speaker 7: He threw no hitter, So I don't think it'll ever be that way again.
01:16:28
Speaker 4: And then another thing is, you know, sorry, Jeremy, with counting stats. You know, Migey just got gets five hundred home runs, right, who's the next guy that's gonna get to five hundred trout Maybe guys. Guys don't play every day anymore, so counting SATs nobody's really compiling anymore, and makes some of these records unbreakable.
01:16:49
Speaker 1: Bonds is never going to be touched.
01:16:51
Speaker 4: I don't think Bonds is ever gonna be touched, or he Rose is certainly never gonna be touched. That was an unbreakable record. Cal Ripken, no chance. Nobody has been placed hundred anymore for twenty seasons or whatever it was, you know, And but yeah, I mean it's completely different, and and you're right, like you know it just I don't know. When I was looking at those stats.
01:17:17
Speaker 13: I was like, they go in their twenties complaining that the game is not the same, the game is Get off, my god, you know, I'm looking.
01:17:25
Speaker 6: At go back and like line up the video of alt Lighter's no hitter versus Like Henderson Albareze's no hitter and just see the difference.
01:17:32
Speaker 4: Probably that is the greatest no hitter of all time. That nothing, nothing into the night and a walk off on deck last game of the season.
01:17:44
Speaker 10: I remember watching that right after no right. Yeah, it was like literally as the holiday.
01:17:51
Speaker 11: Ended, something.
01:17:55
Speaker 4: I want to get back into, get get us back on track for just one second. And I'm looking at the game day, the MLB game day for this game, and his Zeus Aguilar is standing at plate with a three twenty average, seven sixty oh ps and zero home runs. Jazz Chisholm Junior is hitting two hundred, Chad Wallach is hitting two thirty one, Marte is hitting three twenty three, which he might still very well be doing. Brian Anderson is hitting one sixty, and Adam Duval is hitting one thirty six. As as for the Mets, they really don't have that many guys. I can't I remember Eli or Fish Stripes tweeted out the lineup.
01:18:42
Speaker 9: I don't know they have.
01:18:45
Speaker 4: They have is the one guy that is not available for them anymore. He's not on the team. And then when you look at the bench, like, I'm not sure al mor is still with the club. He might be in Triple A. But yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see how the lineup shakes out if you look at it. So Dickerson was leading off, he's gotta be replaced. That'll probably Bejzeus. Well, it's in left, so it might be Dela Cruz, and then Marte's in center. That could also be de la Cruz. Aguilar will stay in Anderton it's luckily back from injury, he'll stay in right field. Will probably be Sanchez hitting fifth. That makes the most sense for him. They like to keep him there. Jazz, we'll get to see him hitting sixth again. Miggey Rowe is hitting seventh. Whichever catcher starts will be hitting eighth, and then it's gonna be whichever pitcher.
01:19:34
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a really interesting game to lead off. Yeah, I think for how far I should just play short stop.
01:19:40
Speaker 4: I think you should just switch Alfaro for Rojas and just ride it out for one game.
01:19:44
Speaker 6: But the legendary all right.
01:19:48
Speaker 4: Well, it's seven twenty one, and I think Jeremy's got a run, and I'm getting a little hungry and everything, and so let's just get into this. You know, this is four game set with the Marlins. They play the that's three more times in three more series with the Mets, and a lot of the division. You're gonna be seeing a lot of the division. To wrap up this year, the Marlins only have two series outside the division the rest of the way. They go four with the Mets here, then turn right back around, they come home, they get Philly, they get New York again, then they get New York again at the end of the year, right before the last series with the Phillies. So a lot of the division here. So it's prediction time. No game tonight, but two games tomorrow, two games on Wednesday, and a game on Wednesday and Thursday.
01:20:35
Speaker 1: Apiece.
01:20:36
Speaker 4: Jeremy Tesh, you are our special guest. You are in the leadoff hole. Give us, give us what do you think happens tomorrow and then what happens in the whole series.
01:20:46
Speaker 13: I hate that you guys made me go first. I don't know what the barometer is and I don't know what sounds right. No, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say they split tomorrow and they split the series.
01:21:04
Speaker 1: All right, Kevin burrall, come on in.
01:21:08
Speaker 12: I think I might have to go a Jeremy here. Yeah, Marlins are gonna split it too too. Sandy's gonna win the start. I think they'll win the If Alia goes into seventh, I.
01:21:16
Speaker 5: Think they'll win that one.
01:21:18
Speaker 1: So yeah, split too, two, Isaac, I.
01:21:21
Speaker 5: Think you'll either go one of two ways. Either we win three out of four or we lose three out of four or get sweat for them. The Mets are either gonna like continue going down with nonsense surrounding them, or they're gonna say, you know what, we have to kill these Marlins. So that's for you know, optimistic states take I'll say we went three out of four. I think Edward and Elias are sweep the double header tomorrow. Maybe they lose on Wednesday and Sandy. Sandy gets a series win on Thursday.
01:21:43
Speaker 1: Weep the double header tomorrow, they're winning all four?
01:21:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, or Actel we're getting the Mets can respond to at home. Yeah, the Marlins zero pers in a doubleheader after everything that's going on. Yeah, No, it's such a good point for me. And Sandy's on the down, and who else is on the Mound. No, not Lazardo. Looks like Thompson will be the will be on Wednesday.
01:22:06
Speaker 10: The only game we possibly lose is one of the doubleheader games. Other than that, if I think we're sweeping the series, I honestly think we're sweeping the series. Last time we had a Met series, I picked three out of four and we took three out of four. I'm confident with the Mets series. I think if we if we sweep the double header tomorrow, we are definitely sweeping the series.
01:22:27
Speaker 4: Eternal optimists, Noah Berger.
01:22:29
Speaker 12: The Marlins are the king of doubleheaders.
01:22:31
Speaker 1: Guys. They killed the double headers last year.
01:22:34
Speaker 4: The reason Alex scrver go ahead with your prediction for this series, jeez, I mean.
01:22:46
Speaker 6: Well, let's look at it. The A's are in Detroit, so maybe Starling Marte gets a flight out for the early game, and.
01:22:53
Speaker 7: Good Adam duvall. You know what, we can get him back to it.
01:22:56
Speaker 1: Nice nice to have him. Yeah.
01:22:58
Speaker 6: Yeah, But anyways, I guess I guess I'll say, I'll say I'll say three or four. You know, I think I think Eddie builds off to the start that he had here. Of course, I think he will. I think he.
01:23:15
Speaker 7: Should start the second game.
01:23:16
Speaker 6: As I mentioned before, he got Eliezer, see what you can get out of him? Did pretty well's first time out, So yeah, and then Thompson. I really I keep saying this about him. The guy just turns in quality innings. I mean, his last two starts both five innings, three or less runs. You are still sitting in the threes. I like that guy, man, I think he saw it. I think he's a little underrated. But the guy that's just done everything that he's at been asked to do, and then he got Sandy too. So I think that they will lose one of those games, probably one of the double header games. I would say they will lose, and then they take the other three. So yeah, that's that's my prediction.
01:23:47
Speaker 13: I'll say three out of four Daniel Rodriguez one and three or somebody.
01:23:54
Speaker 8: I'll keep it short and simple, Marlon Sweep. I think them to get overblown. And that's the only thing I'm gonna get into their heads. With the door and bias.
01:24:03
Speaker 9: Why isn't it gonna take over for nothing? Sweet?
01:24:07
Speaker 5: We're sitting ourselves for heartbreak, man, yeah we are.
01:24:11
Speaker 13: We're Marlin three and one yourself, I know, I know, set yourself up for heartbreak.
01:24:19
Speaker 5: I didn't think everyone else was gonna follow me.
01:24:22
Speaker 1: All Right, you guys know what I do.
01:24:24
Speaker 4: In every four game series, I never see either team winning three or more games.
01:24:28
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a split.
01:24:29
Speaker 4: I never do it on the on the hey, if I'm the realist on this stream, I'll take that title.
01:24:35
Speaker 1: I'll wear it with pride. So I'm the spl you know.
01:24:40
Speaker 4: It's just when you look at a four game series, especially the circumstances of this one, I can never see either team winning three games, though I wouldn't be surprised if the Mets come out and play great, or also if they completely fall apart and the Marlins go ahead and sweep, like some of you guys have said. So I'm gonna go ahead and go with the timid prediction of a little a little split. And I think Eddie pitches really well, and and Sandy. I think they'll win Sandy's game. So I don't know if they'll which game of the doubleheader they'll win, but I think they'll win one of them as well. And so all right, that it's been great. A little special edition Fish Stripes Live went a little longer than usual. Because of the unusual circumstances. Jeremy, thanks so much for joining us.
01:25:21
Speaker 1: Man.
01:25:21
Speaker 4: It was great to have you for Eli behind the scenes, for Kevin, for Isaac, for Noah, for Daniel, for Alex and for Jeremy. Make sure to check out Miami miked up. I know Jeremy would love for us to shout that out. Jose Raina as always bringing us good luck to starter from from Daniel's immense chair. As Peter Pratt would say, I'm Ethan Vidowski. Enjoy the double header tomorrow and enjoy the series, guys, and we'll talk to you on Friday.