Ilhan Omar to Kimberly Guilfoyle - Misogyny & Misogynoir in the Trump Administration with Jarrett Hill

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KBLA Talk 1580. He is here. He's a journalist. He's
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also an author, creator of a game, a board game,
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which is on sale now. Jared Hill, good morning.
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Hey, hey, thank you for having me.
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Award-winning journalist, I should say. Yeah, thanks for being here.
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I'm helping us put things in perspective ahead of this election.
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I feel like a lot of the issues in the
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news may not be directly on the nose as far
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as being election issues, but they all play into the
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eventual decisions that we make at the ballot box.
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I'm glad you said that. Last time I was here,
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you asked me, like, why should people vote or how
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do we encourage people to vote? And I got home
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and I thought, like, I don't know if I really
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answered that question. And I've been thinking about it because I.
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It comes to me from various different perspectives, but I
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recently was in a call with GLAAD, who you all
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will know works on LGBTQ media and inclusion and different
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things like that. And part of that call, they were
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discussing stigma around HIV and AIDS and how we've been
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dealing with HIV in this country for 40 years or
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what have you. And I'm HIV positive. I have been
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for more than a decade. And in that conversation, in
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that briefing, they were giving us all this different data
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on the ways in which information around HIV and AIDS
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is rolling backwards. People's awareness, people's understanding of how transmission
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works and how all of these different things happen, and
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how stigma, the ways that we see HIV and people
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with HIV negatively, how that is growing. And that started
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to really, really concern me. And it made me think
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about the various different ways that over this last decade
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of Trump being a candidate and president and a convict
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and president again, the ways in which we're seeing so
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many different things roll backwards.
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Yeah.
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Right. And I'm anxious about the word backwards because it
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makes it seem like we're going back in time, but
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we're moving forward in this direction. And it made me
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think about elections because I think about we use this
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phrase all the time. Elections have consequences.
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Right. Right.
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And the ways in which we see this president, this administration,
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these conservatives having such an impact in the daily discussion
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about what's happening in this country, who deserves rights, who
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deserves to be free, who deserves care, who deserves all
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these different things. And I was thinking about like how
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I stand to be impacted by these folks, whether it
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is about their whether it is in their their politics
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or their policy or in their ballots.
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Right.
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In our ballots. These are things that we need to
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be thinking about. What are the things that are moving
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in the wrong direction? And whether that person is on
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the ballot or whether that issue is in a proposition
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or in a ballot measure or whatever, we need to
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also be thinking about like the ideology, the perspective that
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we are pushing forward in these elections because elections have consequences.
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And we're living those consequences big time right now.
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Absolutely. Absolutely. And if you are a woman, if you
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are a black person, if you are a queer person,
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if you are a person with a chronic illness, if
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you are a person who engages with the healthcare system,
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if you are a person who's ever engaged with the
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police or any, there are myriad different ways that you
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can see the ways that your life is not better
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because of this administration, because of this ideology, because of
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this thinking, there is some value in pretending that Donald
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Trump is on the ballot and that ideology, that thinking,
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that perspective. So if you're debating whether or not you
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want to vote or participate in the election, That is
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something that I'm thinking about.
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I mean, to be honest with you, we talked about
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this when we when I had those stats. I don't
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have them in front of me now about how Republicans
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in particular, but Americans in general are becoming less accepting.
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of lgbtq plus people and it corresponds with the administration
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of this president and now you're saying that it sounds
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like you're saying that we're seeing the similar trends in
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acceptance of people who are hiv positive in understanding of
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the actual disease itself i would think it would be
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going the opposite direction because it's not a death sentence now.
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Yeah i i would i kind of was startled by
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that information, but also like, oh, that tracks. Because I
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think when we, one of the pieces of data that
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they gave us was that there was one character on
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scripted television last year that had HIV. In the hundreds
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of shows that there are, in the thousands of characters
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that that represents, there was one character that had HIV.
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And I think that when we think about it from
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that perspective, we're not getting any messages, right? Sometimes we're
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getting we're certainly not getting many positive messages, but we're
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getting a lot of negative messages or stigmatized messaging. The
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only messaging you might be seeing about HIV might be
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in a prescription drug ad, right? Where you see a
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person living their life and dancing around to the music
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because they're taking this medication or whatever it is. And like,
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I'm on one of those medications and I am living
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a good life. And also there are things to be
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concerned about. So when I I think about this election,
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when I think about this time that we're in, when
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I think about being an advocate and an activist, like
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all of the different ways that we show up in
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the world, like we need to be thinking about the
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ways that these issues that matter to us, whether it
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is HIV, whether it is your human rights, whether it
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is your healthcare, whether it is whatever, you need to
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be thinking about the ways in which these things will
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be impacting your life. Because we see data right now
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that show like young children are less trusting of women
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in leadership. We see data that shows the ways in
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which black folks are being impacted negatively with when we
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think about unemployment. We see like hundreds of thousands of
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black men and women and people that are losing their jobs.
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When we look at the way our food is being impacted,
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there are so many different ways that we are seeing
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things happening. And like all of these things are on
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the ballot, whether again, whether they're in a ballot measure
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or in a proposition or in a candidate. But there's
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also in the ideology that comes along with these folks.
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Yeah, I mean, I think that is part of what
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we're looking at with the whole outcry over Shane Gillis'
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Saturday Night Live monologue. He hosted it over the weekend,
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and he had this whole riff about how women are
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dressing like whores in the gym. And it was just like,
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I mean, to me, it was incel humor. Like, I
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didn't know that Saturday Night Live had a big incel audience,
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but that's what it sounded like to me. It sounded
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like humor... not funny humor for people who are involuntarily celibate,
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which would be mostly young men, white men, what, like 18, 25.
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I'm not like super right up on the insult community,
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but I can't say.
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Well, more than I'd like to be, perhaps.
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Shane Gillis, I know, was just also on the roast
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of Kevin Hart that got roasted for various different reasons.
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And when I think about someone like that, I think
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about the little bit that I've seen of Shane Gillis.
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I'm often kind of turned off because it's like, this
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isn't comedy. This is just like offense porn, right? You're
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trying to see how many people you can piss off,
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how many people you can hurt, and how many people
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you can get to click on the thing that you said.
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And to me, that is not comedy, right? That is
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not what, to me, comedy is not comedy if the
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people you're talking about are being harmed. Comedy is not
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comedy if the people that you're talking about don't find
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it funny. If you're doing a trans joke, do trans
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people think it's funny? Because if it's not, then it's
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not comedy to me. If you're talking about women, like,
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do women think that what you're saying is funny? If
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you're talking about black people, do black folks think what
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you said was funny? Because if it's not, then it's
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just really like, oh, how can I go out and
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hurt people? How can I harm people? How can I
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shock people?
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Yeah, I mean, I think that the combination of it
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being not funny and the fact that it plays into
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exactly what you're talking about. Young people not trusting women
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in leadership. Having... seen this sort of reactionary retraction of
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our acceptance, understanding, um, of LGBTQ people, of HIV positive people,
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of disabled people, um, which as you say, it tracks
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because the resident is steadily over here. I mean, we've
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seen them actually making fun of people, mocking the disabled
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in stump speeches. So, It's all sort of part of
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the same attitude, and I think that's one of the
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reasons why there's been such a backlash on this particular
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comedian on Saturday Night Live, because it's misogynist, it's sexist,
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it ain't funny, and... We're dealing with that at a
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time when hate crimes are way up and acceptance is down.
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Well, and we talk about the Overton window, which I
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was like, what does living single have to do with anything?
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But the Overton window being kind of that space of
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things that we're comfortable with in our politics and like
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the ways in which having someone throw out things into
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the public, right? Just saying things out in public, especially
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the president of the United States or folks from our leadership.
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just coming out and saying wild things, it begins to
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start to push what we're comfortable with. It begins to
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expand what we're willing to accept. And I think like
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one of the earlier things that I thought about this
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with was with Donald Trump and a third term. He's
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been talking about running for a third term since his
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first term, right? He's been talking about being president forever.
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And so when you've heard him talking about that again
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and again and again, you heard him in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020,
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Then he was running for president again, and he was
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still talking about a third term. And now they have
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Trump 2028 hats that they've been wearing for a couple
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of years, right? They've been kind of playing with this
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idea so that you get a little bit more, a
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little bit more comfortable, a little bit more accustomed, a
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little bit more outraged maybe. But you're thinking about it.
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You're like, oh, is that possible? They couldn't do that.
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They would never do that. And it's like, why wouldn't they?
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I've never seen a line that I thought Donald Trump
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would say, oh, that's too much, guys. Calm down.
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Well, what is a bridge too far exactly? There is none.
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That's what we were just talking about. But it doesn't
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mean we don't call it out because we can't just
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let it be normalized.
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Absolutely. We have to push back against it. We have
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to be on the other side to say like, actually, no,
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that's not okay. You can't do that. That's not all right.
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That is something that we are against. We resist that.
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That's really, really important. Yeah.
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Well, thank you for answering that question. And, you know,
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I don't know. I mean, I almost don't like to
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shine light, but I do want to, you know, just
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apologize once again. You shouldn't have to be abused. Last
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time you were on here, you were abused by one
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of our listeners. You have my permission to cuss them out. Well,
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let me not say that. Tavis might make me pay
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the fine. You can cuss them out without cuss words.
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You know how to do that.
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I'll go Claire Huxtable about it.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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Cuss them out with no profanity.
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Exactly. Yeah, that was not cool. But anyway, 809-20-1580 if
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you want to weigh in. We've got some breaking news
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that we'll look at. I want to talk about the
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attack on Ilhan Omar's house, the supposed live stream of
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an execution, speaking of what is not a bridge too far.
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All that is coming up, and of course you're invited
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in at 809-20-1580. Just don't act up. Talk to me nicely.
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KBLA Talk 1580. Okay, we do have a lot to
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talk about. Actually, literally, really. And so we're going to
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try to get to these things. But I was really
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very dismayed to see Homeland Security going after Ilhan Omar,
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a sitting congresswoman, with three weeks before the election... What
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happened to the 60-day rule where they can't do significant
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legal actions or investigations in front of an election? She's
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running for re-election.
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That rule is probably the same folder with you can't
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appoint Supreme Court justices in the last 60 days of
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an election. I think Mitch McConnell remembers that one. I
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think that is in the same rule as like presidents
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aren't supposed to be having fundraisers at the White House.
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I think that's in the same folder. Probably having the
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RNC at the White House is probably in that folder.
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You know, that folder of like the gray area of
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what it's like when you're running.
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Can you pay for your own campaign ads with taxpayer money?
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That folder.
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That folder, yeah.
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Got it. But I mean, in fact, that is what
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they did. They raided the.
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Home, the Washington, D.C. home of Congresswoman Ilhan Omar in
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the middle of an election. This is the Department of
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Homeland Security. And they say that it's an immigration investigation.
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You know, Omar came through the refugee program and has
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been a citizen since she was a teen.
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And has been a sitting representative for years now. I
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don't even know how many years she's been in office.
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And so the idea that she has an immigration status
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that has been unchecked on, on investigated. It's actually interesting
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to me from the standpoint of like the way we
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don't see this administration vet people, right? We don't see them. We,
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we see them give security clearance to just about anybody.
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We see them allow anybody to come work in the
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white house, regardless of their criminal background, their conflict of interest,
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et cetera. So like, It is interesting to see these
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people come in and say like, oh, well, we didn't
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run a background check here or we didn't really see
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look into your immigration status. We really need to look
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into you. It's like this is very clear what we're
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doing here. Right. This is very clearly a political decision
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that they made to shake up their election chances. We
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know exactly what this is. This is not even new behavior. Right.
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It's like, oh, this is all like y'all running the
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same old plays. But like it has real impact and
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real effect.
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Yeah, I feel like it's an escalation, though. I do. And,
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you know, somebody was in the chat yesterday comparing it
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to the so-called raid of Donald Trump's house in Mar-a-Lago.
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But I don't see it that way because he was
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warned at least 17 times by the Department of Justice,
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begged and pleaded him to hand over those files. And
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when they finally, you know, he finally wouldn't take them
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out the bathroom and hand them over. Then they came
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over and got them. And he knew they were coming.
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That's an appointment, not a raid.
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I mean, I think when you've been bragging to people
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that you've stolen classified documents and have them in your
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bathroom and in your storage unit and behind the toilet
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and up underneath the Big Mac sauce, it's a very
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different thing. But they could say that Ilhan Omar, the
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scarf that she was wearing, came from somewhere and they
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didn't like it. And so that was going to be
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a criminal offense. They could say that they didn't like
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her tone of voice. And say that that was a
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criminal offense.
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We know they don't like her tone of voice. I mean,
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the fact that Trump was on the campaign trail or whatever,
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was doing one of his endless speeches, and he was
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disrespecting Somalis, saying they need to go back to where
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they come from, on Saturday, and then Monday they're raiding
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Ilhan Omar. If you had any... doubt that this was retaliatory, revengeful.
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He's obsessed with her for some reason. He's always talking
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smack about her. And now this.
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The president is obsessed with women of color. Period. Especially
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black women. We've seen that countless times. We saw that
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with Fannie Willis in Georgia. We see that in New York.
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Fannie Willis was the Georgia prosecutor. New York A district
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attorney is, I can't think, her name is escaping me
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right now. But y'all know who I'm talking about. Like,
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we saw this with Kamala Harris. We've seen this with
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various different women of color, Black women oftentimes, where they
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have pushed back against the president of the United States.
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And he has been the one that has been upset
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and frustrated and calling them all kinds of names and
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myriad different things. And so we see this happen time
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and time again with this president. And so we have
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to be able to recognize what this is.
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Okay, anti-blackness, misogynoir. Yeah, well, I read you this off
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the air. I was just, I was really gobsmacked by this.
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The fact that the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson,
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says that the Pentagon's plan to live stream the execution
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of Army Major Nidal Hassan could be used. Now, it's
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weird because he seems to be in lockstep with the
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president on everything, right? Everything. But this, I guess, is
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showing some cracks in the armor because he's talking about
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that it could be used as a recruitment tool. I'm
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thinking he's talking about recruiting for the U.S. military, but
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he's talking about used by terrorist groups. So what it
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means is that There's starting to be some Republican pushback
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on this idea of live streaming and execution, which surprises me,
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to be honest with you. Pete Hegseth is all gung-ho
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about it. I think it's gross. You don't buy what?
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I don't buy it. I think that we've seen this
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Department of War. We have seen this Secretary of War
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or Department of Defense or whatever you want to call them.
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We have seen him, we have seen this president, we
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have seen them doing recruiting in their marketing that was
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not framed in the way that they're talking about, right?
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We have seen them doing recruiting for the military and
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for ICE using decidedly white supremacist dog whistles, imagery, language,
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et cetera. I think they're doing a different kind of
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recruiting here. I think plenty of black folks saw this
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and saw you're going to do a public execution and
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thought like, How far away are we from lynchings? Right.
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Because we've already seen plenty of them. Right.
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We're already hanging people from trees right now.
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We're often reminding people that black folks do not hang themselves. Right.
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But also, I want to remind you that they have
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been trying to have public execution since January 6th. I
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will remind you that there were gallows outside. Right. For
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Mike Pence. There were gallows outside for the vice president
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of the United States and for the speaker of the House,
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Nancy Pelosi. Like they have been trying to kill people
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in public for a long time. And they probably wanted
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to do it before that. And so this idea that
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they want to kill people in public, what's the mission there?
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What is the goal of that?
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Yeah, that's what I don't get. Where's the upside of that?
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Well, I also want to note that this is a
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brown person. It is not a white person. It is
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decidedly a brown person who has done something terrible, to
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be clear. Coming up and shooting up the military base there,
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you're never going to get any points from me with that.
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And I think it's interesting that the first public execution
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is going to be this one.
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I mean, but, and yes, you're right. He did, he
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did a terrible crime and he's in a wheelchair.
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Which doesn't matter to the president because as you just
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spoke about, we've heard him talk about differently abled people
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and in the first campaign, right? We saw him doing
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that in talking about, we remember the president, Using his
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hands and shaking and using all kinds of language to
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disparage disabled folks or a disabled journalist in that moment,
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I believe it was. And so, like, this person being
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in a wheelchair is not going to slow down this president.
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Right. But already, you know, already Murkowski, Tillis, now Johnson
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are kind of saying, well, maybe not. I think, I
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do think it's part of Pete Heggs' sort of macho
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man self-image. Like, he thinks that he's G.I. Joe, you know,
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the little cartoon soldier. Because that's the only thing I
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can think of. Why would you want to kill someone?
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on national tv i mean we we did see george
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floyd killed repeatedly on national tv uh... i know black
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people we probably have less of a stomach for it
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than others because of the history of lynching in this
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country but even even uh... you know even murkowski said
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you know i would expect this from terrorists and dictators
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but not here in america.
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What's the difference between a terrorist and a dictator and
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donald trump food for thought i i I often think
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back to 2016 and the ways that the Russia investigation
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was like, you know, they were looking at whether or
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not this president was, you know, colluding with the Russians
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in the election and all those different things. And I
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think to myself, if there were a candidate that our
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foreign adversaries would love to have come into the United
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States and dismantle it day by day by day, issue
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by issue by issue, they would love Donald Trump. If
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there was someone that they wanted to back to come
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in and dismantle the United States on their behalf, they
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would love Donald Trump. And I can't say that Donald
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Trump is a foreign agent because I don't have that information.
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But there are plenty of investigations that show us a
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lot of data and information that would suggest that. And
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so when we look at these moments, it's like Donald
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Trump has done the best possible job of tearing apart
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this country limb from limb, issue from issue, norm to norm,
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law to law.
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Hold that thought. We got news, traffic, and sports and
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more only right here. Yeah, I told you we had
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some breaking news. That breaking news, the almost daughter-in-law of
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the resident, Kimberly Guilfoyle, who was engaged to Donald Trump Jr.
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and then was sent off overseas to be the ambassador
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to Greece when her engagement was broken off. Well, actually,
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I mean, it's classic. She gets jilted, right? He had
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a new woman. And so you get to be an ambassador. Yeah.
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I wish every time I got dumped, I got to
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be an ambassador.
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Well, it's also a great way to get you out
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of here, right? Exactly.
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Don't talk.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Get her out of.
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Here type of vibe. What's been interesting to me is like,
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I feel like, and I was doing some research to
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see if this was accurate or not, but like the
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most high profile firings that have come from this administration
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are of women. Which is always interesting to me because
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this administration is so overpopulated with white men that they
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occasionally will have a woman that is in some kind
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of role. But we saw this with Pam Bondi, who
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was the attorney general. We saw this with Kristi Noem,
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who was the Department of Homeland Security secretary. We're seeing
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this right now with Kimberly Guilfoyle, who we may remember,
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who was engaged or married to our governor, Gavin Newsom. Like,
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it's been interesting to me to see the ways in
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which they they handle women in this in this administration.
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But also wanting to know, I was reading the story
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from the AP and all of the different things that
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they say that she allegedly did are all things that
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Donald Trump does all the time in public. And so
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it's been interesting to me because they asked her to resign.
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I mean, bottom line, they want her to resign. They
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haven't fired her publicly stating anything. we want you to
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resign instead of going behind the scenes and letting you
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have a dignity and your resignation is also probably reserved
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for women. But what kinds of things are you talking about?
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Well, according to the AP story, it says, in a
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series of stories dating to late last month, the Wall
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Street Journal has reported questionable conduct by Guilfoyle. First of all,
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questionable conduct, whole administration, including making an alleged threat to
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a host country official, Donald Trump threatening other officials from
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other countries, like that's kind of the brand.
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Or to obliterate their entire country. Didn't he say he
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was going to wipe Iran off the map?
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And that's just one of the instances that we.
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Can think of. In California and San Diego.
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Oh, no.
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He wanted them to wipe us.
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Off the map. Which they don't have the capability of doing,
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and he knows that. But we'll move on from that.
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Accepting improper gifts. How much time do we have left?
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Because we could spend the rest of the day talking
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about improper gifts. Gifts and services and offering to use
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her influence inside the administration in return for the payment
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of a large credit card bill. The idea of using
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your role in the administration to make money. I know
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Donald Trump ain't talking right when we can talk about
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the millions, if not billions of dollars that this president
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has made off of being president of the United States.
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And just thinking about this term, right, because he came
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out of the last term a lot richer than any
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other president. And so when we think about the ways
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that they are talking about Kimberly Guilfoyle, like, I don't
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know what Kimberly Guilfoyle did. Right. All I can do
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is see what I see her doing and looking like.
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But when I look at the things that they're accusing
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her of doing, I'm like, oh, these are commonplace things
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happening throughout this administration every day.
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Well, I mean, and if you think about it, she
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was she was engaged to the president's son. So she
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saw how the sausage is made. She saw exactly how
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they extort money.
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Yeah.
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From officials. She saw how they threatened. She learned that
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from them. Yeah. Like, I mean, it's true that she
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used to be married to Governor Gavin Newsom. Although, you know, she...
483
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I mean.
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What do we even do with that information?
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Yeah.
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What do we even do with that?
487
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I mean, but it's true. But I'm saying, most recently,
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she has been... She spoke at the convention. Yeah. She
489
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did her Eva Peron thing. I mean, she... She learned
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from the best as far as grifting goes.
491
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Well, but that's also the reason you want to get
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rid of somebody, right? Like when you've been all up
493
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in here, you know how we run, you know exactly
494
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where probably some bodies are buried. You're going to have
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to get up out of here. We're going to send
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you to Greece, right? We're going to, and then we're
497
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going to fire you and disgrace your name. Like that
498
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doesn't seem like a coincidence to me.
499
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She's also, she also appears unhinged. I mean, The one
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thing that she does that I haven't seen Trump do is, well,
501
00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:24.470
he always wears the same clothes. So they're accusing her
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of dressing inappropriately for her station. I don't know if
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there's guidelines on that. But, of course, they didn't mind
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it at the RNC convention. I don't know. But, I mean,
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you know it's a slippery slope.
506
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I mean, the administration is a water slide that is
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at a 90-degree angle. Like, I mean.
508
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What happens if she, what happens if she refuses to resign?
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The thing I'm hoping for, girl, go ahead and resign.
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Go ahead and do it. And write us a book.
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Yeah.
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Go on a press tour. Go outside and talk about
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what you experienced.
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Yeah, that could make sense.
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That could make sense.
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I mean, for her, she's trying to pay her bills.
517
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I mean, apparently she's got a credit card bill that
518
00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:15.319
she needs to pay off, a large credit card bill
519
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:20.240
from the AP. I think that Kimberly Guilfoyle also is
520
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probably very aware of the level of, she's probably very
521
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concerned about what it means to be going against this administration,
522
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this president, his family. I often think about this with
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Melania Trump. When we see her pop out on rare occasion,
524
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I'm like, It's been very clear that she does not
525
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want to participate in this administration, in the second administration,
526
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as opposed to the way that she did in the first.
527
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And I think about what is it like to try
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and leave this family, right? What is it like to
529
00:27:51.710 --> 00:27:52.470
try and get out?
530
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Once a Trump, always a Trump.
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You know what I mean?
532
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In a way, I also think there's some... I think
533
00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:05.259
there's some delusion going on because... Not with Melania. She
534
00:28:05.299 --> 00:28:08.700
knows what she got herself into. But with Guilfoyle, because
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she's been acting really boldly. I mean, when your private
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texts are being published in newspapers, you know that last
537
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:20.400
week they were publishing texts of her shading Donnie Jr.
538
00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:23.829
's new woman. And they've been publishing texts of her
539
00:28:23.869 --> 00:28:27.829
allegedly trying to get paid by using her influence, getting
540
00:28:28.230 --> 00:28:31.480
people to pay off her credit cards and stuff. when
541
00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:34.619
that happens, you're on the outs. Yeah. Like no one
542
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is protecting you. You're not the fiance anymore. I feel
543
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like she's moving as if she's still in the inner
544
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circle and she's not.
545
00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:45.599
We have all watched way too much scandal, way too
546
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much how to get away with murder, way too much
547
00:28:47.940 --> 00:28:50.920
West Wing, way too many of these political dramas to
548
00:28:50.980 --> 00:28:53.869
know that like when stuff like that is happening, something
549
00:28:53.900 --> 00:28:57.690
is happening inside, right? It's not that a reporter just
550
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came upon her text messages, right? Like, Things like that
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happen for a reason.
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And that's exactly what I'm saying. Has it dawned on
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her that she's unprotected now?
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I would bet you she's known for a long time
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that she was unprotected. She probably felt unprotected when she
556
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got shipped over to Greece. She probably felt unprotected when
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her and Donald Trump Jr. broke up. I would imagine
558
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that Kimberly Guilfoyle is in a really interesting moment in
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her life. And I'd be really curious to see where
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she is in six months.
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Yeah, well, she might be running for Congress.
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Oh, Jesus.
563
00:29:35.059 --> 00:29:37.910
I mean, really, she's just as viable as any of these,
564
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many of these MAGA candidates.
565
00:29:41.009 --> 00:29:43.519
We should really have a conversation about the word viable.
566
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My God, today. You're not wrong. And that is deeply
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concerning to me because viable is true and troubling.
568
00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:02.970
True and troubling indeed. Jared Hill is here. 809-20-1580. That's
569
00:30:02.990 --> 00:30:04.769
the number to call if you want to say something.
570
00:30:05.250 --> 00:30:10.769
We're covering the ground. There's several other national and international
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things that we'll look at when we come forward. And
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you're welcome to weigh in. 809-20-1580. I'm Dominique DiPrima for
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KBLA Talk 1580. funny today. I really, really, really, I
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can't drink my water because you're about to make me
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spit my water today. Yes, Jerry Anderson, we did talk
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about the raid on Representative Ilhan Omar's home and how
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illegal it is and terrible it is. So somebody died
578
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at Six Flags Magic Mountain. Somebody actually closed a bunch
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of rides there This is in Georgia, closing nine of
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the rides in Canada and the United States. A bunch
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of people were hurt, and one rider actually died.
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Well, what's interesting here is, I was just saying to you,
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I was at Six Flags with a group of friends.
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Six of us went to Six Flags Magic Mountain probably
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a month ago. It was 100 degrees outside, so you
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can do with that information whatever you need to to
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figure out the calendar of it, but it was It
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was oppressively hot outside. And X2, one of the roller
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coasters at Six Flags Magic Mountain, had just been closed.
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There was a report in the news like maybe the
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week or two before that someone had some severe brain
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injuries and had been hospitalized. And she was, I believe,
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the second person in a short period of time. And
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so X2 had been closed. And then in the last,
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I would say, two weeks, we've even seen that that
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particular ride has been closed permanently. And so then, yeah,
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to see this now, again, from the AP, it says
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Six Flags temporarily closed nine roller coasters across six amusement
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parks on Monday. That's a lot of rides and a
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lot of parks, right? And so I'm also remembering, like,
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I used to work at Six Flags, one of my
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earlier jobs. Yeah, I worked at Six Flags Marine World
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in the Bay Area, which is now Six Flags Discovery Kingdom.
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But I was in the Sea Lion show. I was
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hosting the Fireworks Spectacular for Fourth of July. I was
606
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the announcer at the park. Wow.
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What a cool gig.
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It was a really fun gig that really was derived
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out of me being a Starbucks, Solano drive-thru person doing
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the voice on there. And someone was like, you should
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be an announcer at a theme park. And I ended
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up at Six Flags. Wow. It's been interesting to watch
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the Six Flags thing happen over the course of the
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last couple of months because they're shutting down a lot
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of these roller coasters. And I know a lot of
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friends who are enthusiasts that love roller coasters, but I'm
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increasingly concerned. What exactly is happening that we're seeing so
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many of these closing and a lot of people being
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injured or killed?
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You know, and I don't know the answer to that.
621
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I used to love roller coaster rides and amusement parks.
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I would always go. And then when I had my son,
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I would take him because he really liked them. But
624
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I stopped going because I said, I'm too old for those.
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I don't want the chiropractic bill. You know what I mean?
626
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And I wasn't even thinking about death and injury. I
627
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was just thinking, maybe my body now is not built
628
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for this anymore.
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Yeah, I know. When I was riding other roller coasters...
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just when we were there last month, I was like,
631
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how's my back going to feel about that? How's my
632
00:33:27.809 --> 00:33:29.950
neck going to feel about getting jerked and yanked and
633
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all that kind of stuff? And I came out fine.
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But I was definitely thinking about it because I'm 41 now.
635
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I haven't been to an amusement park in a few years.
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And I'm like, well, I know I'm prioritizing stretching in
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the evening now in a different way than I was
638
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in my 30s, or I'm prioritizing getting out and being active.
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And so I've been a little bit more leery on
640
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roller coasters, but there's still a lot of fun and
641
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can be, you know, a good time. But I'm seeing
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more and more of these, particularly Essex Flags locations and
643
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being like, what exactly is going on?
644
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I also wonder if it has to do with maintenance
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and workers, because a lot of times, you know, it's
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the cuts. It's the corporate cuts. Oh, we don't have
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00:34:06.930 --> 00:34:09.570
the guy that checks the oil on the gear anymore,
648
00:34:09.610 --> 00:34:12.929
you know. That's a good point. That's so 2000. And
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that's what I assume may be behind this. I'm just
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going according to what I see in national trends. We're
651
00:34:19.530 --> 00:34:22.309
cut back, cut back, cut back, and less and less regulation.
652
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And inspection means everything from the food to the cars
653
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are less safe. I mean, sorry, I don't like to
654
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be on that doom and gloom. But that's what it's
655
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feeling like to me.
656
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Well, and I mean, it might be doom and gloom,
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but it's also the reality, right? I see so many,
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I think about amusement parks and thinking about how expensive
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they are to go. I would imagine that they're probably
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not doing as well as they used to be. I
661
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would imagine that people, that their revenue is lower. I
662
00:34:47.949 --> 00:34:51.139
would imagine that many people are probably not working in
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the same ways that they were before in these places.
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So I am kind of curious about the way that
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maintenance might be something to consider here.
666
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I have to ask my friend, Brian, he's the rollercoaster expert. Um, but,
667
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That's really sad. And I'll tell you one thing. If
668
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my kid was little now, after that story, I wouldn't
669
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be letting him go. Yeah. It's going to hurt their
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revenue for sure. As a mama, nope. Because I always thought, well,
671
00:35:14.949 --> 00:35:17.590
they're scary, but no one dies. Yeah. You don't hear
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about people dying. Yeah. Well, now we did.
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That's real. And I think that I'm kind of curious
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what this does for Six Flags. I remember when I
675
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was working at Six Flags Marine World in the Bay Area,
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we had killer whales and dolphins and all of those
677
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kinds of things. And like, we've seen amusement parks have
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less and less and less of those following various different
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reporting on like how those animals are treated and how
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they should be engaged and, and whether or not we
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should be having them in those kinds of, right.
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Whether it's ethical.
683
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Exactly. And there was a documentary blackfish talking about that.
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And it was talking about the orca whale, the orcas
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and how they were being treated. And we've seen a
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lot of animals not in these theme parks anymore. And
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like the park that I used to work at was
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one of those places that had all of those different things.
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And so I'm kind of curious about how these parks
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are going to be doing when they're having less and
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less of the things that they had that were the
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attraction or the amusement. When the entertainment is gone, the
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shows are gone, the food is so crazy expensive. And
694
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now the roller coasters are also like a big problem. Yeah.
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And on the other hand, there's a little hint of
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sadness in that to me because it is a not
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virtual experience. It's an actual go somewhere and do a
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thing with other humans experience.
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Yeah.
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But who wants to die for a, You know, roller
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coasters are fun, but not something to die for.
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Well, and the appeal for me with amusement parks has
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always been, like, the other stuff. Like, I want a
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turkey lick.
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Right.
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I want a funnel cage.
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We were talking about that off the air yesterday. Miles
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was saying it's the ears. It's the giant mouse that
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comes up to you. You want the merch. You want
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00:36:52.369 --> 00:36:53.030
the photo.
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You want the moments. And so like, I'm not candy.
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Yeah.
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00:36:56.210 --> 00:36:58.269
Yeah. That you can only get there that you're like,
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what is this?
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Right.
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And so I, I'm kind of curious to see how
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these amusement parks, particularly these six flags parks are going
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to be doing.
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Yeah. Well, Kifi D, Dwayne Kifi D will be sentenced today.
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for orchestrating the killing of Tupac Shakur. He could face life.
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He was convicted of first degree murder.
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This story to me is so crazy.
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Yeah.
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Thinking about how long ago this happened. I was in
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elementary school when this happened. Right. And so like to
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be 41 years old and to be hearing that there's
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a conviction in the Tupac murder, it's like, what timeline
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are we on? It's crazy to see that. And also,
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I've been fascinated with this story because if you watch
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the Puffy documentaries, the Puffy documentary that came out, was
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that earlier this year or last year? There were indications
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in that documentary about this story with Kifidi specifically. Yeah,
733
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I saw some of it.
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I didn't see the whole thing, but I saw some
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of it.
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Yeah, and so it's been kind of interesting to track
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it from that perspective as well.
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Well, and now... I'm reading on ABC7, they act like
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now the murder is solved. No, it's not. You got
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this guy. But there's so many more questions that have
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not been answered about how Tupac ended up on a
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live end. Anyway, he'll be sentenced today.
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Any expectations there?
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He's 63. I think they're going to throw the book
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at him. I do. What do you think?
746
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I would imagine so. And I also think, to your point,
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this isn't the whole case.
748
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This was not solved.
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But I don't know that I expect them to do more.
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You know what I mean? I mean, it even says
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in this article that prosecutors have insufficient evidence to charge
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anyone else. Even though there are known co-conspirators, some of
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whom are no longer alive. Right? But, yeah, I don't
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see it going anywhere. I think it's a way for,
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you know, media to close the book or for law
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enforcement to say we did this, but Not really solve it. Yeah.
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Yeah. This story happening this many years later, I have
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really low expectations that we're going to see too much
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more beyond Keefie heading to the clink.
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Yeah. And he's 63. So, you know, life without the
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possibility of parole, you know.
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Is different at 63 than it is at 25. Yeah.
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For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Unless you're Tupac.
764
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Well.
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And you only get to live to 25. Yeah, yeah.
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Sheesh.
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Weird day. It's also the final debate in the mayor's
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contest here in the city of Los Angeles. Maybe we'll
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talk some about that next hour. Certainly we'll talk about
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it tomorrow. Jarrett Hill, tell people how to follow you,
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how to get the game, how to get the book,
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how to support you.
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You can find me everywhere online at Jarrett Hill, J-A-R-R-E-T-T, Hill, H-I-L-L.
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You can find me at JarrettHill.com or on all the
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social media. And to check out my book that I
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co-authored with Trayvill Anderson, Historically Black Phrases. From I Want
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Your Little Friends to Who All Gonna Be There, you
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can go to HistoricallyBlackPhrases.com. And our new card game that
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is based on the book just came out. It is
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called Watch Your Mouth. And you can go to historicallybackphrases.com
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for that or anywhere where you get your books or games.
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Yeah. That's going to be really fun, but never again
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on the air. It's too hard. It's fun, though. Really
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fun game.
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It was a lot of fun.
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Congratulations on that. It's so creative.
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Thank you. I'm sure it will be fun at your
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Thanksgiving this year. Oh, yeah.
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It's going to be wild.
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It's going to be wild.
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Jared Hill, thanks again for coming in. Phone lines are open.
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Let's talk about it. 800-920-1580. You know where you're at.