Jon Weeks reflects on the 49ers' special teams play and more thoughts on Giannis rumors

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Speaker 1: We faces, two Craigs and one place to be erexcellent Craig Papa, Seve bred.
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Speaker 2: Sister and Craig Silver.
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Speaker 3: Let me tell you something, there is no such thing as being called line fired up to be.
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Speaker 2: He's Papa and Silver.
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Speaker 4: For all of the moaning and groaning in recent years, when it's come to the field goal kicking game. In the home opener, the forty nine Ers bring out Eddie Pinero his second game as a Niner, the first time he's ever kicked at Levi Stadium, six game winning.
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Speaker 5: Field goals in his career. Let's hope number seven happens.
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Speaker 6: Right now.
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Speaker 4: Thomas Morristad is gonna put the ball down at the twenty five yard line. John Weeks will snap it. This will be a thirty five yard try for Pinero. It's down, the kick is on the way.
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Speaker 5: It is gone.
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Speaker 4: Any Pine, what's it for the forty nine Ers?
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Speaker 5: What are Dame oh Man? Okay?
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Speaker 3: So we're here at the Moscowe Center. It is day three media row, and if we were doing this last year in New Orleans, I'd be like, what are we talking?
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Speaker 5: Special teams? At the start of the show.
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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty five, we're talking Special Teams.
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Speaker 5: Hell, yeah, it's Papa and Silver and.
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Speaker 3: It's not just dust because we got a guest going right.
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Speaker 5: Away, long snapper John Wee.
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Speaker 7: Yes, thanks for having me.
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Speaker 3: This is great, absolutely, man, And uh, look, I gotta tell your true story. So we're the flash of the forty nine ers obviously and the San Francisco Giants. We're out there for a Giants Day game. Papa had been going to OTA's.
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Speaker 7: Okay, he just comes up.
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Speaker 8: He said, who's the short guy that's locked.
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Speaker 9: And he's like, he's like brand on the field.
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Speaker 3: Something and he looks at me and he goes bro I got a crush on John Weeks. So, uh, how was season one in San Francisco? I mean forever?
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Speaker 7: He was right? That or an.
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Speaker 5: Experience you come to San Francisco.
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Speaker 3: Obviously, Special Teams in twenty twenty four was a disaster.
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Speaker 5: This year it was fantastic. You were a big part of that.
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Speaker 9: Well, I appreciate that, Thank you. I mean, what a fantastic experience. I'm so happy that I was able to come over here. I love everything about the organization in the locker room, the guys in the locker room, everything from the top up from the Yorks to Lynch to Shanahan has just been top notch man.
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Speaker 7: It's been really cool to be a part of.
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Speaker 8: So the reason I geeked out on you before I got sick, I went down to the OTAs and I stand behind John and Kyle when it's special teams and I'm watching you, okay, and you're just a machine. I appreciate it because every snap and condo was good. We had some good ones here, Adam True and Brian Jennings. Yeah, you were so during the course of a year. Unfortunately for your position. When you go to Football Reference, there's no stats making tackles, is there? All that out A little bit sure, But with you and your coaches brand yep, how many snaps this year? John, of all the ones ahead and formation, extra points, field goal placement? How many snaps were you not happy with the entire year?
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Speaker 7: It would be three punts and two field.
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Speaker 5: Goal right away?
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Speaker 7: Yeah?
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Speaker 8: And why was the punts?
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Speaker 9: Yeah? Thomas an amazing punter.
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Speaker 8: Yeah. Were you guys together with the Jets?
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Speaker 7: Right? No?
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Speaker 9: So I was never with the Jets fifteen years and he was.
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Speaker 7: No.
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Speaker 9: So with Thomas, as much as he tried to be great about it, I thought the ball was a little bit too low.
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Speaker 7: I threw three.
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Speaker 9: Balls around his knee, which was unsettling.
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Speaker 7: Was a little upset with that.
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Speaker 9: So but something that Thomas, you know, handled very well and hit a great football.
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Speaker 7: The other ones.
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Speaker 9: Eddie is about as fast as a field goal kicker as I've I've ever got to work with, which is really cool because he requires you to be on your stuff. If you're a little bit off, as an operation, something that could go happen. So working with those two this year was awesome. I had one ball unfortunately we got it tipped the line, but I threw one I had laces straight back, which was upsetting, and then.
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Speaker 7: I had another one.
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Speaker 9: I had another one where I had, uh, i'd have Thomas. I think I threw it and it was right around his face mask, which is a little up and with with Eddie being so quick, it's more of a bank bang. You want to give it a little bit lower, so Eddie's got a little more time to see the ball. But Eddie be and Eddie drilled that kick, put that through and maybe me and Thomas look real good.
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Speaker 7: So if you want to be super picky, we'll go four.
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Speaker 8: But pretty damn good.
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Speaker 7: But the album.
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Speaker 9: I'm gonna criticize myself for this.
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Speaker 8: That's why you were a pro bowler.
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Speaker 7: Well, I appreciate that.
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Speaker 8: Were you actually?
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Speaker 5: Were you actually one?
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Speaker 8: I'm watching the game last night.
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Speaker 7: I was out there.
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Speaker 9: We tried me Aubrey and Tress tried real hard to get the kicking game involved.
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Speaker 8: Would you have hit the ceiling at thirty seven feet pretty easy? Right, one of the kickers.
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Speaker 7: There's no way.
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Speaker 9: There's no way the kickers could have done anything on that field, in the in the little area.
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Speaker 6: That we were.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I remember the first time with the Raiders going in a alice the stadium lectler sitting the.
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Speaker 9: Scoreboard that I worked with.
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Speaker 7: Shane.
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Speaker 9: Shane's one of my favorite people in the whole world. We talked every couple of months, checking in on each other. His girls are superior athletes. I think his oldest is playing volleyball. I think his youngest is committed to Baylor Sick as a softball player, because unlike Shane, most of his family went to Baylor because they're super smart, and he.
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Speaker 7: Went to A and M because he's not.
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Speaker 5: True.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, Sane, on the one thing I'll never forget about Shane is. Shane's goal when we went to Dallas was to pepper the scoreboard because he knew Jerry hated it.
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Speaker 8: I was there the first game we went in there.
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Speaker 9: And he loved just pepper in this thing. So the rule, I guess, is that if you hit the scoreboard during a play, the play ends dead. So we're in the preseason because normally Houston and Dallas we'd play each other that preseason four because I'm so close, and someone bet Shane like five hundred on the sideline, like you're not gonna rip this, so he took it. We proceed to go out. I snap, I sprint my tow as fast as I can down the field and he just decks the scoreboard and I'm gassed coming back and he's got a huge smile.
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Speaker 7: I'm like, what's so funny, dude. He's like, Dude, I just pocketed.
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Speaker 9: Five hundred, Shane. If you're gonna do something like that, give me a heads up so I don't sprint down the field. And it looks like a jerk, you know. So what a great human being he was. And you mentioned John John somebody Condo who snapped for the Raiders for a long time that I looked up to a ton when I was going through my process of trying.
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Speaker 5: To get it.
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Speaker 8: Took forever for Ray Guy to make the Hall of Fame. Finally got in Shane to me, I mean some of the numbers he wanted, Sammy balls, Mark Shane got them all. Shane needs to be a Hall of Famer one day. We'll find out on Thursday. I think Roger craig is is gonna make it. But my question is where are we at with a sport called football? With the foot part of the game. Last night, I don't see a pun. I don't see if it's not football. And I understand where we're going with flag. It's fine, keep everybody healthy, but the analytics of the game, Okay, where are you at with fourth down? And the way fourth down is being treated in football today? Where we don't pun on fourth down? We go on it fourth and three or four. We're going forward. We're not kicking that, you know. Plus forty field goal. There's some long ones this year, sure, but a lot we're going for it. Where are we with the foot in football?
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Speaker 7: I mean, what a great question. Right.
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Speaker 9: The game's definitely changed, it's evolved. I think analytics have become a huge part of it, and I think those are just one of those situations where you have to trust your coach tremendous faith and trust and coach Shanahan and he's not somebody who just kind of is like, oh, we're just gonna go for this for the sake of going for it.
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Speaker 7: Conditions are always involved.
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Speaker 9: You know, he likes to know like, Hey, where's Eddie's spot here, how's the win, what's going on here? I know him and coach Boy are in constant communicate, constant communication on the sideline. So that's something where you just trust your head coach. You know, when he makes the call to go for it, you hope it works out.
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Speaker 8: But you worry about long snapper, punter, field goal, the trio you guys are together. Where are these positions going to be at in the list?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's interesting.
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Speaker 9: It'll be interesting to see how you know, how much does the NFL like the new kickoff?
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Speaker 7: How did it work out? Is it something that's going to stay?
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Speaker 9: What do you think or if it's not, because you know, there were rumors in the past that if this doesn't work out, you're looking at the play possibly getting removed.
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Speaker 8: When you like it, do you think it's an improvement in what we've had the last couple of years?
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Speaker 9: I have my you know, there's things I'd like about it, there's things I don't. I think that's kind of everybody's vibe with it. But I think that's one of those things where when you start looking at eliminating plays, special teams plays in general, you're starting to look at eliminating jobs. And that's something to me that's like, you know, I'm an old school guy. I made this team on the fourth preseason game because I went out there and executed all my snaps. So as much as guys hate preseason, you know, for those young guys who are trying to make teams, I always appreciated having those opportunities, right, So there's changes that are being made.
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Speaker 7: I'm more of an old school guy, so I would love to go back to the old kickoff.
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Speaker 9: Some of those plays were crazy, but I understand the health risks behind it. So it's it's tough, but and we'll see what happens. But just know as many special teams plays as.
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Speaker 7: Possible, I'm all for.
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Speaker 3: What was it like going from Tamiko Ryans to Kyle Shanahan. We compare them all the time with Tomiko up and coming becomes the DC, then goes to Houston. How is that transition for you? Did you see some similarities between the two.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, there, of course there's similarities. They're both masters of their craft and what they do right. And for so long, I think, how's the best way to put it? For so long, I've had a defensive minded coach, and I know, I know Ob was kind of you could look at him and say he was an offensive minded coach, but I thought Ob did the reserved to write to punt a lot. You know, Kyle super aggressive offensively, which is really cool to see. I love sitting in his offensive meetings, something I didn't do a lot, but every Saturday night meeting I would sit in and watch him go over. Him and Klay Kubiak, who's a tremendous coach as well. I would watch them go over the first thirty that they scripted out, and it's just so cool to watch how they describe players, formations, defenses, and hey, if we get this, this is what we're doing. If this guy drops here, you're gonna be wide open. Just and then getting to sit back on Sunday watching. You know, it's like, oh kind of they're oh, boom there it was right so, and then Tomiko' is the same way just on defense. You know, it's just a master of his craft, super smart. I love that guy to death. Before he was my coach, I was a teammate of is So cap. I have a tremendous amount of love and respect for and I'm glad to see that he's doing good things over there.
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Speaker 3: Shows his longevity right there, Tamiko Ryan's teammate, Tamiko Ryans fifteen years.
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Speaker 8: You were used to have this game on Sunday Super sixty. Not watching, You're not watching. No, you love ball.
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Speaker 7: I love ball. I do not a passionate mind.
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Speaker 8: Okay, because Seattle's teams are really good, John.
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Speaker 9: We're talking special team, special, special team, very well.
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Speaker 8: Coach runs the teams that opening kickoff to begin the divisional to Rashid Shihi, the way they used the fullback coming across the knockout. Sharon and Luke got there a little late and boom ninety five yards later. You guys had a great year. The last couple of games where it is in Philadelphia, Obviously the playoff game in Seattle. But to me, Seattle has a decided advantage again because good though, how do you see just special teams in Super Bowl?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, both teams are.
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Speaker 9: I mean, I think when it comes to this game in general, special teams is kind of the coin flip, right. I think whoever wins the special teams about eventually is gonna end up winning the game. Seattle obviously incredibly well coached, a lot of really really good special teams players, a great kicker and a really explosive, dangerous returner. They're they're gonna be they're gonna be some kind of game changing factors in that game.
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Speaker 7: Hopefully, you know, you hope it's positive and not negative. Right.
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Speaker 9: But if you look at New England, New England going back to the Belichick Brady days, it's all they've just they're so well organized. Larry one of my favorite coaches of all time. They love Larryism. Yeah, They're so well coached, They're so disciplined. They don't mess up. There's no there's they're so organized with everything. They have a stud stud gosh, I'm forgetting his name, schooler, yes, the stud at Schoolers. A guy yeah, yeah, playing playing Gunner and right, it's it's just amazing to watch what they do. They're not I don't think any team is overly complicated, but they're both very well coached and they both play their tails off, so it is gonna be a really good special teams vibe. And then you wonder, you know, this is just if you want to get in the deep special teams conversation, do the Vets surpass.
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Speaker 7: The young Bucks?
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Speaker 10: Right?
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Speaker 9: Like New England is dealing with a young a young snapper, a young kicker, a veteran punter who's very good and I'm sure keeps that room super calm, so I haven't seen anything that would tell me they're phased at all. But then you got a great punter in Dixon. You have a great kicker and Myers and a really solid guy throwing it to him.
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Speaker 7: So and then the.
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Speaker 8: Game will kick off with around three point thirty. But when night does fall, you know Levi's from this year, When night falls, the wind, especially going through the south.
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Speaker 9: Levi's Tree, which is where I think Seattle will have a little bit of an advantage because they've actually been in the elements before, so they're gonna know they're gonna know the stadium. Specialists are gonna know the stadium a little bit better obviously, but yeah, leave. I'll tell you what. My first, our first preseason home game this year, I didn't realize. I didn't realize the weather. And when I got in that stadium, I said, oh, this is different. Now, granted I was coming from a dome for fifteen years, but I was like, oh, this is this is different.
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Speaker 7: This is different.
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Speaker 9: So it'll be it'll be fun to watch those two really good team units.
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Speaker 5: Good after Well, thanks for getting us going here on this.
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Speaker 7: Oh okay, I got it's in the room. I'll get to four.
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Speaker 5: You forgot you do you appreciate it?
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Speaker 6: Man?
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Speaker 7: Yeah?
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Speaker 8: Thank you?
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Speaker 2: All right, John Wicks the sports Leader, Papa and Silver now continue from Radio Row at Moscow and E Center sponsored by Calshi Calci Trade on anything, even the game. We are the sports Leader.
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Speaker 3: All right, We're back here at the Moss Scony Center. It is day three here at Media Row, Radio Row, whatever you want to call it. Great to have John Weeks to open the show, and it's great to have Clinton Yates joining us right now. You can hear Clinton actually on KNBR ten fifty from seven to nine in the morning.
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Speaker 5: So I know I'm looking at John Curley.
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Speaker 3: You want to escape that show, Murphy Marcus go and suite him to Clinton Yates. He joins us right here with a nice little US open representation. What's going on, man, I'm doing good. So I have a curveball I have to throw to you guys.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 11: So my man Ben smith to does social forest. He's a baseball guyho played college baseball at Coastal and he said he saw Oracle coming by when he was pulling in and I asked him a question. I said, you ever been in that park? I said no. I said, well, there's not that, But I said, I ask a lot of people they've been in a park.
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Speaker 8: Have you been in the park?
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Speaker 5: I've been in the park.
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Speaker 11: Hold okay, And they always say, oh yeah, what's your favorite part? And I say, I don't think you know what my favorite part is? And they say, what are you talking about? I say, you've ever been to the Gotham Club?
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Speaker 5: And half of them are like, God, now we're talking what is that? And I have to explain to them what the Gotham Club is.
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Speaker 11: And I've had the pleasure of going there and I tell people that is the single coolest thing in any single ballpark in America.
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Speaker 5: And you can't even see it. You know.
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Speaker 11: People talk about the cove, the slide, the Coca Cola, all that stuff, But the Gotham Club is the single best idea and execution with the game room and all that.
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Speaker 5: Done it all I know, and I'm pretty I'm.
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Speaker 8: So impressed you brought up the Gotham I.
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Speaker 5: Just wanted you to know before just want to come.
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Speaker 8: You are guest Street cred in San Francisco. Before they were the New York Giants, they were the New York Gothams. Absolutely, and that's where the Gotham Club comes, and that's where Uber was invented. Because when you go into this New York style of speak easy, you're not driving out of there. You're going sideways. You're gonna wind up in the Bayoun. My question is, uh, there's two different Gotham Clubs. There's a one on the lower level which you're speaking, which is, you know, kind of like the old not Hill.
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Speaker 5: I've been to the bowling.
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Speaker 8: Have you've been to the.
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Speaker 11: Bowling I've been in the bowling alley, I've bowled in the bowling Alley.
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Speaker 5: I'm familiar.
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Speaker 8: You know both you are told you, I told you, tell this guy, We'll bring you over there today.
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Speaker 11: I'm just saying it's a kind of experience that beyond just exclusivity. It's a really fascinating thing to look at, because with the club with so much history, I think people tend to forget how genuinely old a lot of.
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Speaker 5: Baseball lore is. To see these old.
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Speaker 8: Black life to dual Bridge just like wow.
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Speaker 5: You know, I spend all the whole time looking at the walls.
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Speaker 8: All right, Uh, do you do dislike the Dodgers as much as we do in the Bay Area? What are you feeling about the evilist evmpis.
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Speaker 5: I'm from BC, but I live in LA.
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Speaker 11: So the natural inclination towards the Dodgers is just that they're They're the home team in the context that I live there now. I don't dislike the Dodgers, but I will say this, the issue with what the Dodgers do from a money standpoint, to me is not in the ability to and again I'm not gonna get into a full breakdown of like what payroll is versus what the actual output is you're paying show Hey, one hundred million dollars paying them one hundred million dollars. It's not whether or not it's one hundred on the payroll, and it's not at the upper end of that. It's the idea that you can spend forty million dollars on Kyle Tucker, who, as far as Kinshut, is not that good.
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Speaker 5: If you can make that mistake, then that's.
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Speaker 11: The big difference between that team and all these other teams. It's not that they have the cash to output at the top rate. It's that you can take wild.
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Speaker 5: Risks for crazy overpays.
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Speaker 11: And I'm like, listen, all do to respector Kyle Tucker that that dude's not worth forty million dollars a year.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's the Giants game. In that contract, we'd be sitting here like what do you right? Why would you player? But come on, why would you do that? And that's where the real disparity is.
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Speaker 11: It's in the ability to make mistakes potentially that are wild. I mean, they paid uh Cole Hammils a million bucks for one workout one.
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Speaker 5: Time, and you're thinking to yourself.
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Speaker 8: How does Giants are paying him how many million a year to pitch the Giants are still paying now to pitch for the Dodgers.
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Speaker 5: He's not even throwing his dollars.
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Speaker 11: Like you know, if you can waste money on bad not bad, but options that other people can't even affords, that that's where it feels like it's unfair. It's not in the idea of oh you can, you've got all the cash in the world. It's then that you can be frivolous, and that's where I think baseball is harm So I got.
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Speaker 3: A question as far as the NFL goes, because you've talked openly about representation in sports media, and I mean as far as the coaching cycle, This latest one in the NFL not great, Bob, not great. So you know, I guess your reaction to the coaching cycle, the lack of diversity, and also the comments made by Roger Goodell about having a lot of work to do well.
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Speaker 11: Goodell can't ever really be honest about any of this. But I think that you know, when you look at, quite frankly, nationally, what's going on with what we'll just say, certain people who work in my hometown feel about these efforts trying to roll them back.
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Speaker 5: It kind of.
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Speaker 11: Feels like football is going along in line with that. And the reason why it's problematic, and I want to explain this to the listeners, is not because of what I feel as a Black American or the way that any individual has necessarily been treated, which is important, but it's about the fact that, like Yo, if you keep your coaching ranks to the same five to ten generational families in operations, you're cheating the game because you don't know how you could expand what this game could be if you don't have talent pools of people that are willing to lead that are different than the others. Does that make sense to you? Know? It's like, what are we doing here? If this hasn't been working, there goes my Woody page. If this hasn't been what he's right there, get Woody, what can your legend?
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Speaker 5: You can't hear either.
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Speaker 8: It's Clinton.
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Speaker 11: Anyway, That's what he's over there, so I'll see him later. Sorry. My point is is that if the game starts to feel the same all the time with the same people, it's not just a matter of whether or not your team has success or not. It's just it feels like that's a lack of evolution that we really could be better.
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Speaker 8: For without a doubt, it's got to get better. You know, you were talking about families and ownership and all that and how but I also think there are two families that are running this NFL right now, the McVeigh family, sure, from John McVay, the legendary GM the Niners, who his grandson, Sean McVay, by the way, you great guy. So and then you got you know, Kyle Shanahan obviously Mike's son. It all comes from Bill Walsh down and when you look at the two hires over the weekend, and we thought Raheem Morris may wind up with the Arizona job. For whatever reason, he didn't get it. And I know Mike laflor Well, he's a great coach, he's a good person. He's directly tied to Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay. And then you know Clint Kubiak, who's going to coach in this game on Sunday, is going to be the Raiders head coach. So Clint was here in twenty twenty three with Kyle. So part of the problem is just how many offensive systems in the NFL right now are direct disciples of either Sean McVay or Kyle Shanahan of it all comes down from the og, the genius Bill Walsh. I think that's the problem we have is owners can't look out, well, this guy was a quarterback coach for the Rams, let's hire him as our head coach. Can he lead men?
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Speaker 11: Though, I will say this, the reason why I don't have that much of an issue in that regard with the specificity to what you're talking about is because.
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Speaker 5: We've said this before. Quarterback is the worst.
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Speaker 11: Coach position in the league has been for a decade. And if you and this is sort of where the variety thing comes in, it's like, look, if you've got somebody who can develop a quarterback, then you've got a chance to win. And I don't just mean pick a dude and make sure that he's got an offensive line. I mean find a talent, make sure that that person is capable of being in the NFL and then maybe succeeding from there. And that's where a guy like a Sean McVay I think is a tremendous player because I'm a tremendous player in the game in the context of you know, the coaching realm is because he can do that.
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Speaker 5: And I feel that if.
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Speaker 11: We're getting back to the diversity point, there's gotta be somebody that's been better than half of these guys at developing quarterbacks in this league, because too many dudes are washing out. And when you think about a guy like a Darnold, a guy who came through here, he was a number.
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Speaker 5: Three pick, look at who was in that draft.
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Speaker 11: Lamar Jackson, last Baker, Reagan, Mayfield, Josh Allen.
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Speaker 5: None of those guys have been in the super Bowl. You know why?
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Speaker 11: Because dudes don't know what they're doing when it comes to that position. And there's no way that that many positions should exist in the NFL where you're thinking to yourself, Oh yeah, no, we just we just haven't found the right guy. We just have no how about you just don't know what's going on, and you might want to open your you know, expand your expand your talent pool of who you're bringing.
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Speaker 3: All right, So, which number three pick of the draft is gonna be hoisted Lombardi Trophy on Sunday?
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Speaker 11: I think it's gonna be the Seahawks. I think they just have I just think they're a better football team at this point, their ability to get down the field, their ability to you know, mix things up offensively. If the Patriots are gonna have a chance, Rabel is gonna have to mix it up in a way that they haven't shown on film yet all season. They're gonna have to get something back to the ghosts that Darnold said he saw but doesn't see anymore, because ultimately that offense is just too strong and too too committed.
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Speaker 8: These are not Bill Belichick's and Tom Brady's PA.
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Speaker 5: They're much more fun than that.
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Speaker 8: So are we cool when that as America is still just just tired of New England playing and.
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Speaker 5: That I don't think so. I think that again. I'll tell you quick stories. So you know. I live in Los Angeles.
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Speaker 11: Vrabel is a guy that a couple of years ago, when the Super Bowl was there, he was getting awarded Coach of the Year. Place I hang out after the newsroom a happy hour downtown, just sitting there having a beer with my buddies.
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Speaker 5: We're just thinking, you know, sitting around talking.
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Speaker 11: Vrabel comes in with three of his boys, his coaches that he was gonna have on stage, and they got after it a little bit, went down there, accepted the board, I said, I like that guy.
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Speaker 5: I don't think I ever said that once about Belichick or Brady or any of that outfit.
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Speaker 11: Crabel is a likable character, Drake May is a nice kid, and that that team now as as constructed, I think America can easily look at and say, you know what, don't mind them winning.
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Speaker 5: Clinton, We appreciate you coming by.
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Speaker 7: Man.
00:24:23
Speaker 5: Now you gotta be going place. Yeah, let's cut to the Gottham Club.
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Speaker 3: All right, boys, it's changing, Clinton Yates more coming up right here on The Sports Leader.
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Speaker 2: Live from Radio Row and Moscone Center. This is Papa and Silver sponsored by Calshie Calshi Train on anything, even the game.
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Speaker 3: Scony Center here on this Wednesday at Media Row. Great to get the show and the chaos started. We had John Weeks, long snapper for the forty nine ers to open things up. What's great to have Clinton Yates on moments ago, and we got some great guests coming up in the next segment. We're gonna talk to Jim Gray and Brian Billock for the long one. But we also got to have a little bit of a breather here for a moment and last night, Man, that was eventful. As far as coming to the table with talking points, So no Steph Curry, no Jonathan Kaminga. The Warriors lose one thirteen to ninety four against the Philadelphia seventy six ers. But it wasn't the on the court that we came to talk about pop. It was the press conference, specifically with the comments of one Draymond Green, which we're gonna hear in moments.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, they didn't play well. You know, we talked about Detroit just building them on Friday night in the forty five points in the opening quarter, and then you know they're big front line when they go with Stewart and Jalen Durham. Durham, they it's like an NFL offensive line you're trying to deal with. Then you're dealing with last night, the original Fiston, you know, big body and Andre Drummond. And it was the offensive rebounding that Detroit had where they just housed the Warriors on the glass. There was the one offensive rebound where Guy Santos did not touch when it was on the cylinder and they had to go to replay and the Warriors got that call back. But from that point forward, it just seemed like Philadelphia got every single missshot. How do you get just pushed around so much? Clearing offensive uh, you know, defensive rebounds for yourself and offensive for the opponents. Defense starts with your shell and getting a missshot. But if you don't clear the defensive rebound, their percentage that they're going to score on a putback. In the old days, it used to be a put back to put it in the basket. Now they grab it offensive rebound, throw it back out for three. And there's a there's a real emphasis now in crashing and getting offensive boards. For a long time in the NBA, it was get back, get back, get back. We will give up at offense. You know, we're going to make sure we get back and clear that rebound. So from an offensive standpoint, we're not going to crash the offensive boards. That's all changed. Mike Brown did a you know, a dissertation with international basketball and everything he does on the hos of offensive rebounding, and guys will rotate back as they should. But if we got a chance to get an offensive rebound, get the offensive rebound, the percentage of scoring on the second shot is much higher than the first shot. And that's where the Warriors broke down, they could not clear the board. So, I mean, you didn't have Steph Curry last night, and I am worried about his knee. Obviously the Jimmy situation, we knew that would be an issue. And then Jonathan Comingo when he was back, was clearing defensive rebounds better. What's wrong with him? That knee has just been out there for a while. So when you don't have start.
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Speaker 3: It with the bilateral but tellertondonight is then the bone bruise. I mean you do have to wonder how long these things are going to keep him out because at a point I'm thinking, hey, maybe this has to do with the fact that he thinks he's gonna get traded.
00:27:45
Speaker 5: He wants to be traded, he wants out.
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Speaker 8: I hope it's not.
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Speaker 3: Then he came back and then he you know, played pretty well when the team was getting worked. Nice come back, and then he has a great stretch there in the Dallas game.
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Speaker 5: But we haven't seen him since that point.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I would hope he would not too. And his agent, although there have been a lot of curious comments from him, Aaron Turner, he would not withhold services for whatever reason. But you are close to a trading deadline obviously coming up, and what about twenty five and a half hours. It will be tomorrow at noon our time. So and then there's a report today that the Lakers want Jonathan Kaminga. I don't think the Warriors do anything unless this Gianna's thing is settled, which leads to, you know, what exactly is going on. James Harden got traded last night for Winston Garland Son, which I think is interesting because Donovan Mitchell is a ball dominant player and so is James Harden. Darius Garland is more of a traditional point guard. He can get his I don't know how they're going to share that ball. You know, we've thought that with Harden and many of his teammates over the years, even Chris Paul. You know, how do you get to share the ball? Because Harden needs the ball, so does Donovan Mitchell. I think Mitchell will probably move off to two guard more. But anyway, you know that trade went down last night. We're always wondering, Yes, during the show, what is Minnesota exactly up to, you know, moving Mike Conley and that money. They're aligned. Miami obviously is aligned to go get Yanni's dead a Cuombo and then you know the Jared Jackson Junior trade. I think the Warriors would have been in on that had Gianni's not been on the block. But you've got to move on. So as far as trading coming, I think they'll wait and see if Giannis gets traded tomorrow. At any point before the deadline where you have time to execute a trade, then you could make a trade. But as long as Giannis is still available to you next summer, I can't see the Warriors giving up any players or assets that they could use to get him. Now. As far as what Draymond said, and you know a little bit of this after the Detroit loss on Friday, but last night, and we'll talk to it more. We're at the super Bowl. We got a lot of guests coming up. My friend Jim Garrey's gonna come up in a little bit of time, and we got a string of him with John Riggan's coming up in the twelve o'clock the last half of the show. Maybe we do a poll about which one I would prefer to trade, Jimmy Butler, then Draymond Green, and we'll give the reasons for that. I've already done that before. I think there's Milwaukee. As far as I was told, they didn't. They didn't have any offers at all as of yesterday, But now offers are coming in. I don't know if they're countering the offers right now. They are in the fact finding mission. They want to know, bring me your best offer. Pat Riley, Tim Connolly and Minnesota. When you're dealing with people like them, those two guys scare me because Minnesota Conley, you know, running Denver, that guy, he knows what he's doing. And Riley's been start chasing for a while. I think even was Jimmy really a big star there, he's been start chasing for a long time since probably Lebron walked out that door. So Giannis would be the guy and we'll see where ultimately, you know, he winds up. There's some other teams involved, but you know, what does Milwaukee actually do? But what Draymond Green said last night was just classic Draymond. He just opens up his heart and soul and f bombs and he just lets it out. You would think he was traded last night and that was his goodbye press conference to the bit, That's not what it was. It was a conversation he had with Steve Kerr, where Steve you know, turned to him and said, hi, handling the rumors? How's your wife handling it? His son was there at the game last night, drove home with him. Why would they trade your daddy? He is just so honest. It's incredible. But it's not anything more than a trade conversation, which happens all the time in professional sports. And I'm sure a few earlier times in his career they had conversations about at least trading Draymond Green or not resigning Draymond Green, but maybe it was just never taken to him at that point. You would think there was that one off season where they were actually playing golf Stephen Clay against Holmes and Kelsey in Vegas and Draymond showed up and we heard Sacramento was all in on in There was there any moment where Draymond thought I could be moving on here. Maybe, But he didn't do a podcast that day, and he wasn't asked by Tim Kawakami after a game in a podium about how he I mean, he just emoded last night because Steve Kerr, you know, sought him out and said, how you handling this? So now he's thinking, why is he asking me that? So that's preparing you and your family that we don't know Jimmy could be the headliner in the package. What I would fire prefer no idea what Milwaukee wants to do.
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Speaker 3: Well, sam Amick put out there yesterday and Jad and I got into this a little bit that we were originally speculating Milwaukee would want Jimmy Butler and a bunch of picks to tank. Then sam Amick saying they would want Raymond Green and they'd rather have a healthy player.
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Speaker 8: I hear they're gonna cut Raymond Green, that they're not even gonna take him on the roster, they don't want him, and we'll see where it all goes. But that's Windors was saying that Draymond could wind up getting cut by Milwaukee and then in the buy out market going to the Los Angeles Lakers and playing against the Warriors on Saturday night. I mean, that's the world we live, and would have happened that fast, I don't know. But in any event, as it relates to Draymond, Wow, he laid it out and he can say I'm not losing sleep, but it's not. It's bothering him. He's been here thirteen and a half years. The Warriors win no championships without him, they don't go to finals without him. They lost one because of a bad interpretation of what he did in Cleveland. There's been an up and down roller coaster ride with him. There have been times where I strongly advocated to trade him. I didn't think he was as effective of a player as drinking was a bit of an issue, but that's when Steph was out and it was a hard year, that pandemic year. But right now, I think you need his ability to specifically guard the bigs in this conference that are in your way and Oklahoma, he's got a couple of them. He guards home Grin Well Hartenstein's a little more of a problem. He guards the Joker as well as you can, and then mainly ween Binyama. He bothers wen Benyama with his armbar the way he guarded LaMarcus Aldridge when he was Pops. You know, five down guys. So in any event, we'll get into it, maybe even open up a poll later on if the Warriors do have a choice here, and I think I think what's been presented to them as far as I know, both offers have been presented, the package of all the draft picks and a Jimmy headlining package and a Draymon headlining package, and then it's up to Milwaukee to pick A or B or neither some other team what Ryles is doing, what Conley's doing, or not trade him at all, and then revisit all this in the summer. But it's just Raymond Green and what he said and who he is, what he has meant to this community and this basketball team, and his relationship with Steve and with Deaf and with Bob and with Joe and with us. When I was diagnosed right away, Traymond Green reached out to me immediately and was praying for me. And I've said things good and bad about I appreciate Raymond's brilliance as a player, his acumen, innate ability to see plays, not just on the defensive end where's obvious, but offensively, that that high drag with Steph, and he has been such a great player for this franchise. But to hear him talk on just a I can't even say it's a hypothetical. I mean, we're going to find out in twenty four hours if he's gone, and that's a hard reality, but just it all means so much to him as a player. That's why he's so white hot when he gets out there, because that's just the way he is. And as a person, he's so emotional. But the way he spoke last night was almost a goodbye to the Bay. Treymond, You've not been traded yet. Quite likely you won't be in the package. Maybe they picked Butler. Equally likely Milwaukee won't trade right now. Now you may get traded in the summer and you have to go through this all over again. He knows he's not gonna play forever basketball, but I really believe greg he wanted to be one of the select few. He wanted to be like Kobe or Tim Duncan or John Stockton, guys to play for one franchise their whole career. The way Steph has got it. We don't know where STEP's gonna go down the line, but it's just the way he spoke last night. You would think he was traded and he was saying goodbye. All that was brought up was the concept of being traded.
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Speaker 3: Well, let's hear that audio real quick, and then we'll get over to Jim Gray, who's gonna be joining us.
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Speaker 5: Coming up in a bit.
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Speaker 3: We got Kyle Harror back in the studio, who was there for dubzot last night. So here's Draymond Green at the podium being as always one of a kind.
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Speaker 12: Honest, if you would have told me thirteen and a half years ago, like, Yo, I'm gonna hang you this sheet of paper and you can sign it to be in a place for thirteen and a half years? Would you sign it? And I would have signed it faster than you can blink. So what do I have to sit and worry about?
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Speaker 8: What do I have.
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Speaker 12: To like be upset about? Like I've been here for thirteen and a half years. That's longer than probably ninety eight percent of NBA players have been in one place. And this guy from Saginaw has been in a place for thirteen and a half years.
00:37:30
Speaker 5: I don't know that it ends at.
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Speaker 12: Thirteen and a half, but if it does, what a run has been, I'll take the fine for it.
00:37:37
Speaker 5: What a run has been? Damn Traymond?
00:37:41
Speaker 6: All right?
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Speaker 3: So we got a lot to react that clip here in the second half of the show. But coming up, let's talk to Jim Greg, Greg, Jim Grays. Here it is Pop on Silver, I'm the Sports Leader.
00:37:54
Speaker 2: Our coverage from Super Bowl Radio Row at Moscone Center is sponsored by Calshi. Calshi read on anything, even the game. Here are Papa and Silver on the Sports Leader.
00:38:08
Speaker 3: Day three here at Media Row continues live at the Moscone Center. Greg Silver, Greg, Papa, and the great Jim Gray is.
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Speaker 5: Joining us right now. We've got Jim Gray the Hall of Excellence in the same sun.
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Speaker 6: I'm so happy to see Greg, Papa.
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Speaker 7: We go back.
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Speaker 5: Each other.
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Speaker 6: Greg's brother, Gary was my best friend in Philadelphia.
00:38:30
Speaker 7: Oh man.
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Speaker 6: We miss Gary. We think about him all the time. We love Kathy, his wife. But when I see Greg, I see Gary, and I'm so thankful and grateful that that Greg's doing good because he's my conduit to my buddy without a doubt.
00:38:43
Speaker 8: Love your brother.
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Speaker 7: Great.
00:38:44
Speaker 8: Great to see you. So we changed it a little bit. You are, you are excellent and all you're doing. I'm sure you're in many halls, but tell me what you're doing with the Hall of Excellence, Jimmy.
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Speaker 6: The Hall of Excellence is the museum the Tom and Brady and I have worked on for almost a decade it opened in the Fountain Blue Hotel in Las Vegas. On the second floor. We've had a great partner in Jeffrey Sofer. Over at the hotel, we have three hundred and twenty five of the greatest sports artifacts in the country's history, in the world's history. Everything from Jackie Robinson's bat that broke the color barrier, the first bat that he used to Babe Ruth's bat when he called his shot, to Muhammad Ali's final robe and his gloves against George Chavalio, Tom Brady's seven rings. There are there on in perpetuity, on permanent display, and when we have a trophy room for everything. You name a trophy other than the Stanley Cup, we got it. We got Oprah Winfrey's Medal of Freedom, her first Tony, her first Emmy, Clint Eastwood's first Academy Award for Unforgiven, Charles Woodson's Heisman Trophy, Billy Jeane King's first Wimbledon dish, Pete Sampras's US Open trophy, the Claret jug from Tom Weiskoff, the Dream Team gold medals from Jason Kidd, you name it. I can keep going on and on. We have all of these great, great artifacts that Simone Biles Lee Tard when she won her first gold medal in Rio Brady's shoes from the twenty eight to three comeback, Michael Phelps when he was on the podium to win eight gold medals in Beijing. We have all these great sports memorabilia from the hundred point game, the only living in artifact known the scorebook from wil Chamberlain donated to us for display by David Kohler from the Laker Shrine. They ran out a room the pencil area, Kobe's net from the eighty to one point game that just had its twentieth anniversary, Greg, you name it. There is something for everybody in here. Lebron James first jersey from that night in Sacramento for the Calves, all the way up to the hoop when he broke Kareem Abdul Jabrar's record a couple of years ago. So we have all of this great memorabilia. It's all assemble and you can come into the Fountain Blue and you can see it all there in the Hall of Excellence, and we celebrate Bill Belichick in the Hall of Excellence. We have his most Warren hoodie and his Lombardi Trophy his one from the last one with Tom the Rams.
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Speaker 5: Wow. Fantastic.
00:41:05
Speaker 6: Uh so we got all this stuff, so we'd love for you to come by show Hey Otani, he's been great, he's loaned to a bunch of his great Oh.
00:41:11
Speaker 5: We can't talk about the Dodgers here.
00:41:13
Speaker 8: You see that cost thirty five dollars for adults to get in.
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Speaker 6: It, correct, and if you're if you're a senior citizen, or you're in the military, or you're in a bat or resident, there's discounts. And all the youth groups, any youth group that comes from anywhere in the country who's in a sports youth group is free.
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Speaker 3: So we're talking about this Lombardy Trophy coming up. What do you make of this NFL season with not really feeling like I felt like the Super Bowl bubble was as big as I can remember in terms of teams that could realistically say could get to this point. And yeah, it ends up being a one seed in a two seed from each conference. But the amount of youth in this game makes this unbelievable to watch it. I don't know if we're gonna get a game that maybe it takes a little bit longer to the two teams feel each other out, maybe some jitters from the quarterbacks, or maybe we get something that is delivered.
00:42:01
Speaker 5: Like the entire of this.
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Speaker 6: NFL season, you never know what's gonna happen in these games. Did anybody think when when the Patriots came here all those years ago that they were gonna beat the greatest show on turf? Were they gonna beat the Rams? Of course not. Was there any way that the Giants were gonna beat the undefeated Patriots? Of course not. So you can look, it's the landscape is littered with every time we thought we knew Greg and we don't know. We just don't know. That's why they're gonna play, you know. And it looks on paper like Seattle's better. I mean, Seattle played. Think about this for a second. Seattle played the Los Angeles Rams and the San Francisco forty nine ers six times this year, six times. Reach Yeah, so you know, and the Rams were considered the best team, so they're ready. And then you look at the Patriots schedule and you wonder how that did this happen? You know, look at who they played. Now, you can't hold that against them. They played who's in front of him. You can't be mad at Larry Holmes because he didn't fight the people that Muhammad Ali fought. Wasn't his fault. He fought the people in front of him. Great champion, So you can't discount the fact. And on any Sunday we don't know what his shoulders like. There's all these questions. And by the way, Allie told me this when I was a very young broadcaster. You stick around something long enough and you're damn sure gonna believe that Chuck Webner is gonna beat me. And there's no fing way Chuck Webinar even belongs in the same ring. Okay, So we can sit here and talk all we want. The likelihood of a major underdog pulling this off happens. That's why Villanova played. But it doesn't happen often.
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Speaker 8: That's sports, and that's why we love it.
00:43:31
Speaker 6: We never know why we love Greg Pop.
00:43:34
Speaker 8: I'm gonna come over there and we go back and Monday night and he'll be on Westwood one for the for the game.
00:43:40
Speaker 6: And no, sir, we left right Westwood a few years ago. We wish them. Kevin Harlan, he's he's a resumed director for.
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Speaker 8: The whole so Anyway, this one. You know, you had time on for years and I love We'll get into Stafford in Crosby because I thought they were just so honest and you brought it out on them. You've had great years every year, but I loved it this year. But having Tom on recently and the line that he had about not having a dog in a fight referring to the Super Bowl, I mean, his New England Patriots are in this game. He won six of his Super Bowl championships, obviously with the owner. So I mean, what does he mean by that? What's his relationship Now? I know he's a raider and he works for Fox and he has all these different assignments. What's his relationship right now with the New England Patriots.
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Speaker 6: Well, I think he explained it well, that was a portion of his life, and it was a great chapter in his life, and it was a twenty plus year chapter of his life. And what he did there, he came in there is nobody and he left as the most revered man in the history of pro football. So I believe he's always going to have tremendous gratitude for that organization and for Robert Kraft and the Craft family, and for Bill Belichick. He said, Bill Belichick's the greatest coach ever and the greatest coach and only coach he ever wanted to play for. So I think there's always going to be a for that organization. But his life has moved on, just like everybody else's. You know, I worked for NBC for years. I love NBC. I worked for ESPN. I was the first reporter ESPN had, the only reporter ESPN had. I love ESPN, but I don't work for him anymore.
00:45:12
Speaker 7: I work for Fox.
00:45:14
Speaker 6: So that's who I'm loyal to, and that's what I think about, and that's who's sending me my paycheck, and that's where my futual.
00:45:21
Speaker 5: No.
00:45:22
Speaker 6: No, but it doesn't diminish that I don't like the time I spent at ESPN. And it doesn't. So I'm not trying to compare. I'm just saying, we all in our lives, and so that's what he was trying to say. And you know, if reports are to be believed that the raiders next head coach will be Clint Kubiak, you hardly want the owner. And they're sitting up there saying, you know what, I'm cheering for the team that you're playing against, we'd like for you to come here as a loser, right, No, So, I mean anybody who can think this through can understand exactly what Tom was saying. And if they can't think it through, then.
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Speaker 8: And Clint's a good guy. We had him with the Niners in twenty three. We're talking a lot about Max Crosby. Uh, is now the time do you feel to trade one of the greatest defensive players in Raider history? What's your thoughts on that? You know Maxwell, does he want to leave the Raiders, and is now the time to make that trade?
00:46:14
Speaker 6: I think Max is gonna have to answer those questions.
00:46:16
Speaker 7: Greg.
00:46:16
Speaker 6: I love Max. Max is a great player. Max is a great Raider. Max is an all time Raider. Max loves Las Vegas, and I love Max. He's on the show with us. But I have no idea what he wants, and I have no idea what the organization is thinking. I would just say this, Max Crosby is a great, great Raider and is represented the Raiders in a spectacular fashion. And you know, as a fan, as a fan, who wouldn't want to have Max Crosby? So yes, as a fan of the Raiders, and I'm a fan of that organization. Yeah, I love Max Crosby. So he's he just won the he just won the Excellence Award. Uh, you know, the Commitment Excellence Award.
00:46:56
Speaker 8: Yes.
00:46:56
Speaker 6: So yeah, he's excellent and he's great, and he's gonna be fine after his surgery. But I'm not involved. I have no idea what the plans are for him. Uh, and I don't. I don't ask because I don't you know, they'll handle all that. All right.
00:47:10
Speaker 5: Well, I'll leave you with this.
00:47:11
Speaker 3: What was the best Ali quote had he ever shared review aside from the one to give us.
00:47:17
Speaker 6: Oh, the best Ali quote that he ever said that he ever shared with me was, you know, he he he would he would love to do magic. Ali used to love magic, and he would carry around a fake thumb and he would stuff a thing in a hanky in there. And he said, here's the only difference. When I put on those gloves, they think the result is magic, but it's not. I'm the greatest, So, you know, he said, he said just so many things. He you know, he was just such a great man because he had time for everybody. He treated the janitor and the chairman of the board with the same dignity, respect, courtesy, and time. And when you would travel with him, he never blew off anybody. He was just wonderful and it didn't matter your walk of life, and he loved young people. He gave me my opportunity. That's first interview I ever did. First interview I ever did. Oh O Real seventeen? WHOA seventeen? And I was a videotape editor and I was in the ABC station in Denver editing the early morning videotape and they were converting from film to videotapes, so all the film guys took the buy out because they didn't.
00:48:32
Speaker 7: Want to learn a new craft.
00:48:34
Speaker 6: Well, I was only one in the bureau in the station at that hour seven am, editing the Broncos with Red Miller getting ready for the Orange Crush, getting ready for the draft, and he was getting ready to fight Leon Spinks and then after that he was going to fight Lyle Alzado in an exhibition at Mile High Station. So he came to town. He was two and a half hours early. They couldn't find anybody, so they sent me out to do the interview. I was dressed like this, never done an interview before. First question I asked him. He said, you know what, you don't even shave you're doing this interview And I said yeah, and everybody laughed. The whole entourage laughed. And then the fourth or fifth question, she said, you sound like the local how at co Sell. It's the nicest, nicest compliment I'd ever had in my life.
00:49:12
Speaker 8: Took the interview, took.
00:49:14
Speaker 6: The interview back. He gave me forty five minutes, and the head of the bureau walked in. Head of the bureau walked in. He he didn't know my name. He watched that interview for an hour and a half. He got up and he said, you know what, you and this videotape are going on the air. It's barely adequate. So as we wrapped this up and I got into the Boxing Hall of Fame and the Basketball Hall of Fame, I said, somehow barely adequate ended up.
00:49:35
Speaker 5: Here and there you go, barely adequate.
00:49:40
Speaker 8: Red Miller, I think a Rob Lidel that was a fumble. Al Davis would say, do you do an Al Davis impersonation? I heard it.
00:49:50
Speaker 6: Oh, Jesus, Jimmy, I love Greg.
00:49:53
Speaker 7: Papa Jesus crossed. You know.
00:49:56
Speaker 6: He called some of the greatest games in the history of the raids. And though we love him and we wish him all the good health, a lot of happiness, and on Sundays we hope he cheers for the Rats.
00:50:08
Speaker 8: You did not drop an F bomb. I know you're closed very good.
00:50:13
Speaker 5: Thank you, Jim, and thank you Al especially.
00:50:18
Speaker 6: We love Al, We miss Al. And we're just so happy Greg papas Greg Papa is doing great. Look at him.
00:50:23
Speaker 5: Look at this this guy.
00:50:25
Speaker 8: Come over and hug me.
00:50:27
Speaker 6: Get over to get over to the Fountain Blue Hotel. Were dreams come true with the Found Blue.
00:50:31
Speaker 3: At the Hall of Exit came and we'll we get Brian Billock in the chair here in just a moment. I'll tell you that you're listening to K and B R and KMBR from San Francisco, The Sports Leader, a Cumulus Media station. Also a good time to note, look at the volume volume. I'll take a little more volume in the headphones. We've kind of had the up and down this whole entire time. We'll go a little bit more, a little bit more, a little bit more. I can't really hear my voice, but hey, that's for the beauty of the radio. Row stuff right there, so we'll get that all worked out as we get Brian Billock in the chair knows a thing or two about winning Super Bowls, and we're gonna get him situated right ahead here on this Wednesday. Brian, thanks so much for joining us. Greg Silver, Greg Papa here on the flash.
00:51:09
Speaker 8: You swing in the Banshee looking for the SOB.
00:51:12
Speaker 10: That's right, Super Bowl, still trying.
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Speaker 8: To championship game here. Tell the audience what you did when you came into the Oakland Coliseum with Tony Siragusa.
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Speaker 10: That was that was special because no one expected us to win, came cross country into the I remember my memory of that game is they did back then that you didn't just drive into the coliseum. They cut a hole in the fence and made you drive through the heart of the Raider nation.
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Speaker 5: This guy as we pull.
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Speaker 10: Off and there's a I'm gonna say sixty five year old looking ish grandmother with her I'll say ten year old granddaughter, all dressed in raid and regalia, both flipping the bus off as.
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Speaker 7: We go by.
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Speaker 6: Sars.
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Speaker 5: Okay, we're in for a day.
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Speaker 8: We're in for a day, are you dominated? These are two thousand AFC Championship games. So whatever we see, coach, we talk about that game and your brilliant career obviously, but we go back to Bill Walsh, and I know you haven't had a chance to see the Rise of the forty nine ers. We had four straight episodes, two on Sunday, two on Monday. You sat down. He shared so many coaching everybody's enthralled about him filming all of his meetings and you know, all of his call sheets and everything that he passed on, and that was all to pass on to the next generation of coaches like yourself.
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Speaker 10: Correct the brilliance the genius of Bill Walsh, and there's so many things obviously has accomplished from what he and what he does and what he did, but the real genius, for my money, and I think Bill saw it in the same way the genius was in his teaching. He was the ultimate teacher. Everything was based on as you said, it's not what I know, it's what what can I impart on the players and what can they embrace? And so that teaching sequence that is legendary and has followed through without the league. When you talk about the West Coast offense, the tactics and the strategies and the plays. I mean, everybody's doing the same thing. It's that teaching sequence where he was revolutionary, particularly to in today's game with the technologies that we have to teach the players. It is uh he he would have loved that aspect of it.
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Speaker 5: All right.
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Speaker 3: So we got to talk about the X Tech pads, right because not only can I tell you about it, I can show came.
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Speaker 8: Let me see the tech shoulder right over your right, over your hand shots.
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Speaker 5: So are you gonna try with the headset on? I don't know if it's gonna work.
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Speaker 8: Like Jim Harbard, No, I don't want to do that.
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Speaker 3: But in all seriousness, we are excited about this product. We are excited to hear about some of the work you've been doing. I know Eli Manning was a part of this one as well. So what is the latest on the X Tech pads and trying to find the right fit for younger players.
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Speaker 10: Well, I'm excited, but we're in our fourteenth year where the number one pad in pro and college football. The list of players and sixty of the guys this weekend will be in this pad. And we talked about the technology and the innovation of the teaching that's exactly what this is.
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Speaker 7: This is the.
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Speaker 10: Next iteration of technology, the x text bot, which is AI driven. You know, the old days, big guys had big pads, the guys had little pads. Now this is based on your height, your weight, your position, your injury history, the level that you play at, as it should be because we have the capability of putting that kind of protection on our players. And so I'm really excited that it's I've got a fourteen year old and ten year old grandsons that they were the prototype. We're going to get into the youth pad that the soul which is desperately needed to protect because you know, what do we do. We got to take the head out of the game. Right shoulder pads are that next level of protection and the technologies where we've reached this this this is the next thing. This is what all players need to be in.
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Speaker 8: So I can't hear you, but you look good. So speaking of this, and then Bill Walsh very seldom with the Niners, even way back then in the seventies and eighties, would practice with pads on. He would save it for game day. Mike Shanahan learned that when he was here, the Niners very seldom. You know, they have like one every couple of weeks padded practices. We were talking to Matt Hasselbeck the other day, he coaches high school football. He said, we never tackle ever, We're never in pads until game day. So what's the proper way to keep our football players healthy with these pads? And how much do you actually have to get Bill Bill.
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Speaker 10: Wash again part of his genius. The entire league is now practicing the way Bill implemented and starts back with the forty nine ers. Because I was there on the first year with Bill and in an administrative capacity, so I get with aspirations of wanting to get into coaching.
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Speaker 8: He worked in pr back, how about that?
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Speaker 5: How about that?
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Speaker 10: And so I got to kind of step back and watch Bill put this together and the priorities he had, and you're exactly right. Training camp, I remember him every year it was John Wooden esque, you know, would say, okay, this is how you tech. Bill would start every season with his coaches in training camp saying, you have one major prime directive for this team come this opening a training camp or the opening of the season. To get them to that opening as healthy and fresh as we can now we got a lot of other things we need to do. So every way that he practiced was very thought out and very forward thinking ahead of his time in terms of how do I get the players the work that they need. But every time you put a player on the field, there's fatigue and there's a chance to get hurt, and Bill maximized that to where everybody in the league is processing that same way.
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Speaker 8: So, Coach Lebert, what did you do with your Ravens teams? Because I remember they were all great, but that two thousand team, they didn't just want to tackle you. They wanted to bury you in the ground. They were as physical as possible, led by Ray Lewis and the frying and bowl whar all your guys, your secondary Rod Woodson? So did you do that in trade?
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Speaker 10: That was the dichotomy of that team, And they could the boys couldn't believe it. The boys, the men couldn't believe when I came in and I saw I'm a new coach trying to establish a team that had not had a winning season since its inception, that was newly born, transformed from Cleveland into Baltimore, and with some good veteran players, particularly on the defensive side, and so now this is the most dominant defense, in my opinion, the history of the league. And showed them, guys, this is how we're going to get there, This is how we're going to win, This is how we're going to practice. And they couldn't believe me. We hit that again, you're talking about maybe the most ferocious defense in the history of the game. We hit less than any other team in the league. But they learned and understood, we're going to keep you fresh and we're still gonna get done what we need to do. I learned from Bill. I spent most of my time at any given practice, training camp, or otherwise watching and observing to decide how much at the end of practice, how little hitting we can get away with, how much you know, if we practically that, if we're carrying our pads so we don't have to explode, or do we know we got to hit, We got to hit one another. To make sure that I was monitoring what it is they needed, because you do I mean, there's cardiovascular shape, there's muscular shape, and there's hitting shape. So you do that's the thing right now. Coaches larmning and training camp that they sometimes feel they don't have enough time to really.
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Speaker 7: Get into hitting shape.
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Speaker 8: But you've got to be very careful with that.
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Speaker 10: And I attribute whatever success I had ironically on a team that was known for a ferocious defense.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, Tony Sierra goes Rick, Yeah, oh yeah, coach.
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Speaker 5: We appreciate your time very ch Yeah always.
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Speaker 10: I don't wear it much, but but I love supporting and around loves come back to the radio row and see everybody and the excitement about the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 3: And we love the representation in the backs tech trying. You had me sold man, you got it. We're good, amazing, Thank you, coach, Brian Swing in the banshee the s o B.
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Speaker 5: We're coming up on Papa and Silver on these Sports Leader