Justin Roethlingshoefer: The Health Expert Who Was Told He Wouldn't Live Past 35

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Heal the cell, the body heals itself, but it requires you to live in alignment with how you were designed.
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My guest today spent his career keeping some of the healthiest people on the planet at their peak.
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Stanley Cup champions, Olympians, the best athletes in the entire world.
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And then his own doctors told him that he wouldn't live to see the age of 35.
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Suddenly, the expert whose entire job was health had somehow missed what was happening inside of his own body, and it nearly cost him his life.
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Justin Routhlingshofer took the same system he had built for elite athletes and turned it on himself and rebuilt his own health from the ground up.
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Today, he teaches leaders to take ownership of their bodies so they can actually live long enough to fulfill what they're on this planet to do.
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Your habits, behaviors, and life rhythms are simply your identity made visible.
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We're like, I'm going to cold plunge every day.
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All you're doing is putting new habits on an old identity that will lead you back to the same place that you've already been.
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This conversation is about the difference between looking healthy and being healthy.
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And why that gap may be the most dangerous thing you didn't know you were ignoring.
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Justin.
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You have made a career out of keeping people healthy.
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And then you had a doctor tell you that you wouldn't live to see the age of 36.
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Help me understand what was going on.
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So I think it's like any high performing person.
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You think you're Iron Man until you're not.
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And I think for me, it was really humbling experience because you can imagine, let's say for an example, you're a real estate agent and you sell homes for everybody else and
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but your house has been on the market for three years.
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It's like, I can get everybody else's house sold, but I can't sell mine.
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It was like, my job is getting everybody else healthy, but I seemingly can't figure mine out.
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And that was like my journey is at eight years old,
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um, was, uh, this fat kid that was teased, made fun of, and the fat kid became the anorexic kid.
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The anorexic kid became, uh, the kid stuck in a eating disorder clinic with liver and kidney failure.
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Um, he became the depressed kid, the anxious kid, uh, the addicted kid.
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And, um,
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I say it's my biggest blessing because it set me on the trajectory to be obsessed with this body we live in and really kind of understand and want to answer the question, not how do we treat something, but rather why is it happening?
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But that set the precipice for me to come down to the States, do all my schooling, undergraduate, master's degree, postgraduate work, alternative medicine space.
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It got me into the NHL and having this career and this thing that everybody talks about, which is awesome, which is what we all want.
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But I still remember at 27, 28 years old, I just started to have these symptoms, like this headache in the back of my head and this body pain that wouldn't go away.
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And I'd smell food and I'd bloat like a fish and spend four hours in the bathroom and just think it was normal.
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And all while Josh being extremely fit, running triathlons, marathons, looking the part, having all the muscles and everyone's like, oh, no, no.
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You're the picture of health, bro.
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Your blood work looks great.
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Your body looks great.
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And I was like, if I look so great and everything's great, then why do I feel so bad?
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And there was this epiphany about three years into that, so at 30 years old.
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where it was like, why don't I do the same thing on myself that I've been doing to my athletes?
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And that was the moment that I started to dive deeper, started to ask more questions, started to run tests on myself that my doctors wouldn't, and that I would do to my athletes on a regular basis.
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And everything showed something wrong because we started to look at the cell, not just what was going on in the serum.
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And so let's go to the cellular level, the way the body was created.
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And about 10 days after that, when I started to show them, like, hey, something's wrong.
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They found four precancerous polyps in my colon and a bleeding precancerous ulcer in my stomach.
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And I was told I wouldn't see 35.
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And so that was the precipice of this journey for me to say, hey, you know what?
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This whole thing was a blessing.
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It started at eight, it's now at 30 years old.
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And it wasn't actually to serve everybody else first, it was actually to have the faith and the belief that my body could heal itself
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But ultimately, I had to make sure that I was living in alignment with how my body was designed.
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And so that was my next quest.
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And 14 months later, clean bill of health and setting me forth on the new trajectory of my career.
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All right.
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We're going to get there.
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I'm first curious about eight-year-old Justin.
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Sure.
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You said you were overweight.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I'm going to ask the same question through each one of these stages of childhood that you use as an example.
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What did that eight-year-old kid teach you?
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What kind of drive did that eight-year-old give you?
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So, you know, it's a funny question because I'm going to actually start with a story.
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About four years ago, I got off a stage after I finished speaking and I had a lady come up to me.
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And she was in tears.
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And I was like, yeah, I was, I was that good on stage.
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I thought I brought you to tears, like right on.
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And she comes up to me and she goes, can I talk to you for a second?
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I said, yeah, absolutely.
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What's up?
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And she goes, I don't mean to overstep, but I just, I just, I feel like I need to tell you this.
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And I was like, anything.
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Yeah, what's up?
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And she goes, when you were speaking, I couldn't help but see like this little boy sitting at your feet just saying, hey, like I want to come on this journey with you.
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Don't hate me.
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And I was like, oh, my God.
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And I started to cry because going back to your question, I hated eight-year-old Justin for a long time.
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because eight-year-old Justin was, even eight to 12, figured out, is the guy that was teased, the guy that was made fun of, the guy that just wore the brunt of all the jokes.
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And it set forth in me this identity of needing to be impressive, needing to perform to be liked.
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Because the only thing that
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I was ever validated for was how I played on the ice.
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Because as soon as I put my equipment on, as soon as I put the mask on, Justin's everyone's best friend.
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but take the mask off, he's the brunt of all the jokes.
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He's the guy that sits in the corner.
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He's the guy gets teased.
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So you're cool as a hockey player, we'll like you, but as a person, no, no, no, you're not good.
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And so it created in me this performance identity and this need to be impressive that stuck with me for a long time.
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And the last four or five years, that's been like my healing work and my story that I told myself
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for 25 years was, if I'm not impressive, then I will be nothing.
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And if I'm nothing, my soul will die.
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And that was the story I took.
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And so everything I did, from every room I walked into, I had to embellish, I had to tell people what I was doing, it had to be bigger than it actually was, it had to be, we always had to round up in whatever was going on, we always had to put a sunshine and rainbows flare on everything.
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And let me guess, you always had
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to move the goalposts?
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Always.
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So once you told your family, hey, I'll be present when this happens, once you had the when, when became the next goalpost.
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You never got there.
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It was always one more thing.
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And even like when you went to go run a hundred mile race, you couldn't just go run a hundred mile race.
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That was, everybody's doing that.
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I had to go run a hundred mile race by myself around a track.
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I couldn't just go compete in high rocks.
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I had to go win it.
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And so it showed up in every facet of my life.
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And when I was sitting in quiet time, we were talking about breath work.
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When I was sitting in quiet time, probably a month after this lady spoke to me, I was like, you know what?
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What is breath work?
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that thing she was talking about, like this little boy, like I see him and I just want to pick him up and hug him and like see something, but like I despise him a little bit.
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And I was sitting in quiet time and I just heard from God.
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He just said, Justin, if you can be nothing,
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I can make it something and that will be impressive.
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And so it went from this man who was striving, this man who was trying to do, trying to accomplish, trying to overcome, trying to perform for everyone else to just being willing to put it all down and say, hey, if I can be nothing,
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God can make it something and that will be impressive.
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And so it was the humility that came around that, that came from healing that relationship with that eight-year-old boy and taking all the good things, all the resilience, all of the discipline, all of the overcoming mentality that he developed within me, taking all the good things, but then also forgiving him for everything.
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the not so good things and forgiving the 8, 12, 16, 20, 24, 30 year old, forgiving those moments and knowing that, hey, those weren't failures or things that I fell short on.
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Those were developmental times that ultimately just shaped me into who that I am today.
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And there was a beautiful picture that I got when I was in Italy with my wife.
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We were going and seeing all the different art that was going on.
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And we came up on the statue of David.
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And obviously the statue of David is this big marble slab that's beautifully carved out of this figurine of David.
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And the tour guide tells us a story.
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He goes, there's an interview with Michelangelo.
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And this guy comes up to me and goes, Michelangelo, how did you ever...
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Carve this beautiful statue of David.
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That is so complex.
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He goes, oh, that was easy.
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I just had to chip away everything from the piece of marble that wasn't David.
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And thus David was left.
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And I was like, that's such a beautiful metaphor for us because every habit, every behavior, every life rhythm, every discipline that we're instilling in ourselves should literally be chiseling away every part that is not.
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us.
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So every day I should be becoming a bigger part of who God created Justin to be.
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You should be becoming the person that God created Josh to be by chiseling away through habits and behaviors to step into something new.
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And this is a recent revelation for me too.
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Again, only over the last probably four years or so have I been doing this type of discovery on myself.
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And usually there's a pivotal moment that causes you to look at that.
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And then, you know, it's death by a thousand cuts when you look back, right?
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And you're like, oh shit, I've been missing this for 35 years or whatever it is.
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Okay.
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So the eight-year-old you, I'm curious.
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That eight-year-old is still part of you.
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It sounds like you have a better relationship with him now.
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Yeah.
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I love that guy.
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Yeah.
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Just before we move on to maybe the 15 or 16-year-old you, what did you used to say or do at your age now to that eight-year-old you part of you before you understood what you needed to do and then what do you do now?
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Yeah, he'd get angry.
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That was the big thing with me.
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I'm the kindest, most joyful guy.
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But I would go zero to 100 in about 30 seconds.
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And what I mean by that is something would happen, something would occur.
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And it would flip a switch because it would trigger that feeling of, oh, you made fun of me.
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Oh, I'm less than.
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Oh, you don't think that I can do it.
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Oh, you're telling me I'm too small.
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You're telling me that I'm insignificant.
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And it would trigger that heart.
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And it's when we all come back to it.
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And we really look deep, Josh.
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We all have this heart that we're trying to either perform through, perfect, protect, it's created pessimism, or trying to please.
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It's the five hearts that I talk about that imprison us as men.
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And as we get imprisoned as men, if we cannot heal one of those, it will always be the ceiling on our ability to go and do what it is that we've been called to do.
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It will hinder our health, it will hinder our habits, it will hinder our life rhythms, it will hinder how we show up daily.
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Because everything stems from the heart.
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So we're either a performer, we have to perform for our validation, we have to perfect, meaning we have to make sure that everything is great or we won't even try.
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We become a pessimist where we've been hurt so many times that everything is a negative.
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We've got that negative mindset to start with.
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We have to be the pleaser where ultimately, hey, I have to say yes to everybody.
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I have to make sure that everybody's good.
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Everybody's operating.
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Everybody's in this space.
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Or we become the protector where it's like, I am so guarded.
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I don't let anybody in because I've been bruised many times.
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I'm going to protect that thing.
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and we don't let anybody in.
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And so these are the five hearts that I've identified and that I've kind of seen through a lot of these different stages of my life that I've had to heal through, forgive through, love through, that has ultimately let me see the eight-year-old, 15, 25, 30-year-old version of me and be like, man, I love you, man.
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I just appreciate so much of what you've gone through and the hills that you've walked through and the fire you've walked through and you've
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The fact that there's shadows in hell means that there's light somewhere else.
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And so that's the beauty of what you did is you didn't stop there.
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You kept going and we've got to the other side.
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Why the heart?
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Why do they come from the heart?
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Yeah, I mean, that's the core of everything.
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The scripture says, whatever has your heart, your mouth will speak.
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And so I think sometimes, even you go back to Romans 12, 1 and 2, therefore, brothers and sisters, use your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God.
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This is your true and proper worship.
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Do not conform to the patterns of the world, but rather be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
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In Hebrew, mind was simply another word for heart.
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And so when we look at order and how things happen, spiritually, if we're disconnected,
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it will always poison our heart.
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It will always entrap our heart.
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That's the first thing that occurs.
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Because once your heart is entrapped, that's when we can ultimately poison the mind.
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So you think negative thoughts simply because there's an imprisoned heart first.
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Sit on that for a second.
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Because a lot of people go, oh, I have a negative thought.
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Well, the negative thought came from a previous experience that has ultimately taken captive your heart first.
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Because you're disconnected and don't know who you are in God's eyes.
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If you don't know who you are in God's eyes, you will ultimately take the vision of who you are in the world's eyes.
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And so if you take the vision of who you are in the world's eyes, you're an entrepreneur.
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You're a business owner.
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You're a high-capacity leader.
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You're a father.
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You're a spouse.
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You're somebody who doesn't back down.
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You're a disciplined person.
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You're somebody who always succeeds.
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That's what the world tells you.
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But what God's told me is that I'm chosen.
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There's a calling on my life that cannot be taken away, that I'm a rising tide, that I keep tips of the spear sharp.
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So those are things that he's spoken over me that ultimately has freed me from having to go and perform, freed me from having to be perfect, freed me from having to please everybody, freed me from having to protect my heart, freed me from the negativity that continued to come on of everybody's good or everybody's got a good blessing upon their life except for me.
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And so when you go to the heart and you free the heart, it starts with a connected spirit.
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Because a disconnected spirit creates a prisoned heart.
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A prisoned heart creates a poisoned mind.
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And a poisoned mind creates a dysfunctional and diseased body.
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And that's the worldly order.
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But when we flip it on its head and we have a connected spirit, it frees the heart, which renews the mind, and then heals the body.
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That's powerful.
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Why do so many people miss it?
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I think it goes right back to Romans.
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We've conformed to the patterns of the world.
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We do things that are common to everybody else.
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If you look around, an uncommon man doing uncommon things, it's uncommon that
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to go do therapy.
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It's uncommon to go sit with other men and talk about your porn addiction.
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It's uncommon to sit and say, hey, you know what?
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I need somebody to coach me on how to actually live in alignment with how I was created.
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And a lot of times because it takes humility.
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And what they see themselves as is they see themselves as strivers.
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They see themselves as people who are powerful, people who have won in business.
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And so those are the things that they continue to keep going back to because that's where the validation comes from.
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But the continual validation is just a slow drift away from who they were actually called to be.
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That doesn't mean you have to give up the authority and the power and the success and the calling of the business that's on your life.
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No, no, no, no.
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But what I'm saying is if you don't do the work and you don't step into the actual real things, there will always be a ceiling of actually what was really possible.
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I see it all the time.
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There's so many high powered, high successful men that have even billion dollar companies, thinking of four people specifically right now, that all of a sudden they've got the billion dollar company, they've got the hundred million dollar company, they've got the eight figure company,
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They've got a great family, beautiful children, awesome spouse, but yet they have no joy.
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They have no freedom.
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They feel like they're constantly stressed.
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They feel like they're in this constant state of fight or flight.
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They're constantly trying to prove and make one more step forward because, man, I'm still not quite good enough.
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And slowly they may not actually make a change until they have that heart attack.
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Until they look in the mirror and they're like, man, I don't recognize this man.
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Man, I used to be able to run a mile in eight minutes 25 years ago.
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And it starts to go, my gosh, how did I get here?
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And oftentimes it takes a crisis to make people open their eyes.
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Instead of being, you know, no, I'm going to be uncommon.
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I'm going to live upside down and backwards.
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I'm going to connect my spirit so that I can ultimately do the work that I need to do to free my heart so I can have a renewing of my mind and I can find real purpose in my habits, my behaviors, and my life rhythms that I'm stepping into every single day.
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So it shapes me into the man that I was called to be, to be the father, to be the husband, and to be the business leader that takes me further than I could have ever gone on my own.
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So if somebody doesn't want to wait for that crisis, what do they do?
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I mean, you got to find a team.
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I mean, that's what Own It exists for.
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That's why we built our company was for that man.
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And we've got a team of 60 that are working with...
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thousands of people at this point.
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And I think that's the cool part is like, I get to say that I get to see miracles happen every single day.
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Men that have autoimmune disorders, men that are obese, men that have cancer, men that have diabetes, men that...
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are severely depressed, men that are like, man, there's a version of me that used to be here that is no longer here.
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I feel like my confidence left me 10 days or 10 years ago.
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I don't know how to get it back.
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Well, confidence is simply creating undeniable evidence that you are who God says you are.
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But every decision you make is in complete contradiction of who that man is, which is why you have no confidence.
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But you try to manufacture it every day, which is making you feel like an imposter, which is why you have false humility, which is why you feel everything you do is actually not fully in alignment with where you want to go.
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What does manufactured confidence look like if somebody's...
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that many people are blind to this.
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They have no idea that it's happening.
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They're going to work and they're performing because that's what you do.
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That's what you're good at.
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These are the things that you were striving for, right?
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And now you're there and you need to execute.
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You're not thinking maybe this isn't it.
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So help me understand without a crisis.
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Yeah, manufactured confidence.
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Best example I can give of manufactured confidence is you just closed a $10 million deal.
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The first person that you call is your best friend.
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Then you post something to social media.
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Then you go and make a call to your team.
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Hey, this is done.
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Then you go to the grocery store and just in the line, somebody's talking to you and you're like, man, we just, it just happened to come up in conversation that you closed a $10 million deal.
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And then on your drive home, you start thinking, okay, where's my next $10 million deal coming from?
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And then you walk in the door to your home and you feel an ounce of joy for five seconds until you realize that you have to be dad and husband and all these things again.
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And the anxiety jacks right back up.
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And then you have to tell yourself, no, no, I just closed a $10 million deal.
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I'm a good, I'm great.
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But then there's screaming kids all around and there's the shakes that come in and the inability to sleep comes in and then you're going to stay up all night again.
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And then your wife's frustrated because you're not connecting with her.
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And then there's this deception that's going on and you're like, man, I feel divided in my own household and I'm finding all the success in the world, but I have no joy, no peace, no freedom.
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because we're living in misalignment with how we were created and thus we're manufacturing confidence.
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It's a great example.
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I appreciate you walking us through that and helping us visualize that.
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Yeah.
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Because maybe somebody out there is listening and they can't relate to the words, but they can relate to the feeling.
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Yeah.
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And I'm willing to bet that most people who identify this relate more to the feeling than someone just telling them.
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I think another big one that people often see is when you close that deal, a lot of people who have
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their full connected spirit, their fully freed heart, their fully renewed mind and their habits daily that are driving in that same direction.
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When you'd close that deal, you'd find joy and peace and freedom.
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And you couldn't wait to celebrate with your team, your family.
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But the person who manufactures it, as soon as that deal's signed, there's anxiety and emptiness because you're like, oh my gosh, what's next?
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Yeah.
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You cross the finish line of a marathon that you've been working on for so long and you've been training for.
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You cross the finish line.
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You don't feel jubilation or joy or freedom.
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You feel panic because you don't know what you're going to do to train tomorrow because you have nothing to go for.
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Manufactured confidence based on how you perform and what you do.
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This is another rabbit trail off of the rabbit trail that we're currently in.
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How do you define joy?
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Joy?
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I think a lot of people go to happiness, but where I come from, joy is, joy is a peace and freedom that lives in a full gratitude for whatever moment is thrown at me.
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A peace and a freedom that is full of gratitude no matter what is thrown at me.
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That's joy.
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I like that.
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I love to answer that question.
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I love to ask that question because I do have an answer for that question myself, and it's very similar to yours.
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It's an acceptance of the present moment.
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Yeah.
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And acceptance is a very intentional word.
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Yep.
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Right?
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Because you don't have to agree with the present moment.
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You don't have to love it.
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Totally.
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You don't have to hate it.
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But if you can accept it, that this is where you're supposed to be at the time you're supposed to be there, everything else gets easier.
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So it creates alignment, right, with who you are and where you are at in the world.
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And so to me, that's joy because you can be at peace with the person you are without anything.
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needing it to be the person that you want to be.
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For sure.
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Right?
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We don't ever want to throw the first punch, but sometimes we have to.
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We might not like that person in the moment, but we're comfortable and we accept that we did what was necessary.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I think the cool part about that too is when you live in the present moment and you're not reaching for the future or dwelling in the past,
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In the present moment, there is no anxiety.
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In the present moment, there is no fear.
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In the present moment, there is no panic.
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When you're in the future, there's anxiety.
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When you're in the future, there's panic because it's things that have yet to come.
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When you're in the past, there's fear.
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In the past, there's regret.
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In the past, there's anxiety.
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In the past, there's fear.
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You live in the present.
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Man, the present's a gift.
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And if you're actually able to be where your boots are,
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This all comes, and people always say this, like, be where your boots are, be present.
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But in order to do that, a lot of people try to white knuckle their way there.
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But the only way you get to be there is through freedom of healing and freeing the heart.
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Because if you're no longer trying to perform, you're no longer trying to protect, you're no longer pessimistic, you're no longer trying to perfect, and you're no longer trying to please, you can just be.
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And that's one of the hardest things that men have is they just have a hard time being and being present.
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There was a man that we worked a long time with, and I still remember this story.
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He said, he was actually speaking on a stage and telling the story and he goes, my kids took their first steps.
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And, uh, I was talking about with my wife and as they took their first step, she was telling the story and I was like, yeah, I just wish I could have been there.
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And his wife looks at him and goes, babe, you were there.
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And he goes, no, no, I was on the road.
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I was not there for her first steps.
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She goes, no, you were there for her first steps.
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You were right beside me.
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You were just on your phone.
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And so he comes back, he goes, the worst part is not that I'm on the road when I'm on the road.
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The worst part is I'm on the road in my head when I'm at home.
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And that comes back to a unhealed heart.
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It comes back to habits and behaviors that reflect who you are.
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Literally, your habits, behaviors, and life rhythms are simply your identity made visible.
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Say that again.
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Your habits, behaviors, and life rhythms are simply your identity made visible.
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I can watch you and how you act, how you behave, the symptoms you have, the diseases you have, the way your body's reacting.
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And I can tell you exactly the identity and what you think of yourself.
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By observing someone?
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Simply watching the way they act and behave.
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Really?
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It's your habits and rhythms literally are your identity made visible.
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Have you known me long enough to do this with me?
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Kind of.
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Want to take a stab at it?
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It's okay if you're wrong.
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If you're cool with it.
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Let's do it.
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So, you're incredibly neat.
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You're incredibly organized.
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There's a level of excellence that comes out in how you do things.
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There's...
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there's a level of performing that still exists for you in a big way.
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Something that's gone on again, while back that probably leads you to do things and want to go and acquire things like a PEMF chair and a sauna and a recovery area to be like, Hey, I've got these things.
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So it shows me that I've got a certain level of success.
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So you want to, um,
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show a level of success that exists, because there was probably also a moment when you were building whatever you were building, that it was a big struggle.
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And as you navigated that and worked hard and disciplined your way out of it and found a level of success, there's a level that still wants to show it.
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But even as you get to whatever that next level is,
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that next pillar, that next hurdle is still something you're still focused on that you can't let out.
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And because of that, there's a lot of anxiety.
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There's a lot of overwhelm.
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There's probably some difficulty sleeping in terms of quality of sleep.
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it's probably showed up in the way in which you feel brain foggy throughout the day.
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Sometimes you've probably fluctuated in weight over the course of the last four or five years.
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And you're tired most days.
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That's pretty close.
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That's pretty close.
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You know, and because I've been doing some of this work in myself the last four or five years, if you would have given me that answer three years ago, you would have been 99% correct.
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Yes.
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I have been working on a lot of those things, but you nailed it.
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And it really does come from a place of performing, even proving.
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Yeah.
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I think that's been big for me.
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It's another P I could have put in there.
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Yeah.
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The proving heart.
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Well, listen, one of the most powerful questions anyone has ever asked me is, what would your life look like if you had nothing to prove?
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Yeah.
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And that caused me to step back.
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And I was like, well, at first I was like, I'm not trying to prove anything.
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Yeah.
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What the fuck are you talking about?
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Yeah.
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And then as I got to thinking about it, I'm like, well, shit.
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You know, I grew this company and my reasons for continuing to grow the company...
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if I'm being honest, you know, it might be to show some people that I can do it.
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Yeah.
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You know, and so it's interesting.
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You do pretty good there.
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And a lot of it comes back to, again, like I said, your habits and behaviors and life rhythms are simply your identity made visible.
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Yeah.
427
00:31:14.407 --> 00:31:25.890
But where it comes back to is I talk about it in like the first chapter of Holy Health, where I literally give a, it's kind of like a screw tape letters type of chapter where it's like a letter from Satan.
428
00:31:26.351 --> 00:31:29.371
And he's like, man, I'm just coming to steal, kill and destroy.
429
00:31:29.391 --> 00:31:30.312
That's all I do.
430
00:31:30.352 --> 00:31:31.092
That's what I'm here for.
431
00:31:31.892 --> 00:31:37.334
And there's a war for our health, a war for our mental, emotional, physical and spiritual health.
432
00:31:37.394 --> 00:31:41.435
There's a war after our health, because if your health goes down the tubes, you're
433
00:31:42.838 --> 00:31:43.959
So does your calling.
434
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:45.221
So does your business.
435
00:31:45.321 --> 00:31:47.864
So does the leader of the household.
436
00:31:48.484 --> 00:31:51.248
And so it all starts with distraction.
437
00:31:51.528 --> 00:32:02.580
If we can be distracted as men, distracted by good opportunities, not God opportunities, leaning into an opportunity instead of an open door, then.
438
00:32:03.568 --> 00:32:05.328
We can be distracted from the real thing.
439
00:32:06.069 --> 00:32:08.709
And thus the constant distraction leads to disconnection.
440
00:32:08.989 --> 00:32:09.749
And what do we talk about?
441
00:32:09.789 --> 00:32:12.270
A disconnected heart creates an imprisoned heart.
442
00:32:12.790 --> 00:32:15.350
So when we're distracted, we get disconnected.
443
00:32:15.671 --> 00:32:17.291
When we get disconnected, then we get divided.
444
00:32:17.951 --> 00:32:21.492
We have a public persona of us versus a private persona of us.
445
00:32:21.912 --> 00:32:25.973
So we show energy on the outside, but we come home and we're exhausted.
446
00:32:26.493 --> 00:32:30.254
And we just feel burnt out every single moment of the day.
447
00:32:30.774 --> 00:32:31.894
That divided person.
448
00:32:32.755 --> 00:32:35.338
creates this further level of discouragement.
449
00:32:35.418 --> 00:32:38.142
Man, I just, why can't I figure this out?
450
00:32:38.182 --> 00:32:39.624
Like, why can't I have this energy?
451
00:32:39.704 --> 00:32:41.727
Why can't I go and do the things that I once did?
452
00:32:42.187 --> 00:32:45.171
Why can't I do what I did five, 10 years ago?
453
00:32:45.251 --> 00:32:47.855
Why can't I work as hard as I used to?
454
00:32:48.956 --> 00:32:50.217
And it leads to further depletion.
455
00:32:50.237 --> 00:32:51.338
Because what do we say as men?
456
00:32:51.498 --> 00:32:52.518
I guess I just got to work harder.
457
00:32:52.538 --> 00:32:53.839
I guess I just got to go more.
458
00:32:53.859 --> 00:32:55.160
I guess I just got to wake up earlier.
459
00:32:55.180 --> 00:32:56.601
I guess I just got to go to bed later.
460
00:32:56.621 --> 00:33:00.543
I guess I just got to work a little bit later into the day.
461
00:33:00.603 --> 00:33:01.924
And that's how we were brought up, right?
462
00:33:01.964 --> 00:33:03.024
That was what was rewarded.
463
00:33:03.345 --> 00:33:03.685
Totally.
464
00:33:04.165 --> 00:33:04.645
Exactly.
465
00:33:05.186 --> 00:33:06.687
And then that depletion...
466
00:33:07.627 --> 00:33:14.217
leads to disqualification because we're like, man, maybe I just, maybe I wasn't supposed to start this business.
467
00:33:14.277 --> 00:33:17.843
Maybe I wasn't supposed to go and move to a new city.
468
00:33:17.883 --> 00:33:20.166
Maybe I, maybe I misheard what I was supposed to do.
469
00:33:20.827 --> 00:33:21.709
And maybe I made a mistake.
470
00:33:23.153 --> 00:33:27.597
And then it finally leads to the destruction of our health, where we find success with no peace.
471
00:33:27.637 --> 00:33:29.058
We find success with no joy.
472
00:33:29.098 --> 00:33:30.600
We find success with no love.
473
00:33:31.080 --> 00:33:34.563
We start to slowly see the success pull away.
474
00:33:35.084 --> 00:33:43.351
And what happens is our mental, physical, spiritual, emotional health gets depleted, gets destroyed, and we're left holding the bag of disease.
475
00:33:45.093 --> 00:33:45.473
All right.
476
00:33:45.493 --> 00:33:47.015
We're going to arc this into...
477
00:33:49.166 --> 00:33:55.254
more of the body and the health in a minute, but I want to stay on the 13-year-old you for just a second.
478
00:33:55.294 --> 00:33:55.534
Sure.
479
00:33:56.675 --> 00:34:08.469
So I've read that somewhere, I don't remember where, in my research somewhere, that your dad told you when you were 13 that consistency, not talent, gets you paid.
480
00:34:09.952 --> 00:34:12.075
How did that wire the way you live now?
481
00:34:12.296 --> 00:34:19.685
Yeah, so his quote directly, we were driving home from hockey, and he put his hand on my lap, and he looked at me and said, Son, I'd played terribly.
482
00:34:21.908 --> 00:34:27.356
He goes, Son, talent will get you noticed, but consistency will get you paid.
483
00:34:29.354 --> 00:34:32.657
And from that moment on, I just wanted to figure out how do I become the most consistent version of myself?
484
00:34:33.218 --> 00:34:34.079
Like, what does that look like?
485
00:34:34.099 --> 00:34:36.000
What does it look like to show up when nobody else does?
486
00:34:36.040 --> 00:34:43.828
What does it look like to just be so dialed in and so surrendered to the process that my default becomes consistency?
487
00:34:44.669 --> 00:34:48.773
And that was this constant learning.
488
00:34:48.813 --> 00:34:49.834
That is what I wanted to do.
489
00:34:50.034 --> 00:34:50.915
That's what I wanted to know.
490
00:34:51.575 --> 00:34:54.198
And in my first book, The Power of Ownership,
491
00:34:54.878 --> 00:35:03.742
I came up with this equation that ultimately I was speaking on it the other day and somebody goes, that equation right there is like worth the price of admission itself.
492
00:35:04.463 --> 00:35:08.724
And what I said, because it can be applied to any aspect of life and business.
493
00:35:08.745 --> 00:35:20.630
And what I said was consistent habits paired with intentional rhythms done over the course of time creates inevitable results.
494
00:35:22.338 --> 00:35:28.843
So if you have a consistent habit space, you do things consistently and you do them with intentional rhythms.
495
00:35:29.163 --> 00:35:32.586
So you do something consistently every morning because you chose to do that.
496
00:35:32.626 --> 00:35:35.609
You intentionally put it on your calendar and you do that over time.
497
00:35:36.549 --> 00:35:40.713
The intent, the inevitable outcome is whatever it was that you pursued on your way.
498
00:35:41.734 --> 00:35:42.494
You want to lose 25 pounds?
499
00:35:44.124 --> 00:35:45.606
Well, you consistently go to the gym.
500
00:35:46.647 --> 00:35:48.609
You put it on your calendar for every single morning.
501
00:35:49.309 --> 00:35:50.350
You meet certain people there.
502
00:35:50.571 --> 00:35:52.072
You do it over the course of five years.
503
00:35:52.993 --> 00:35:56.497
I guarantee you, you will have lost your 25 pounds at some point on that journey.
504
00:35:57.722 --> 00:35:58.702
You'd want to build a business.
505
00:35:59.303 --> 00:36:00.143
You have certain meetings.
506
00:36:00.163 --> 00:36:01.164
You have certain cadences.
507
00:36:01.184 --> 00:36:02.144
You have certain structures.
508
00:36:02.164 --> 00:36:02.964
You have certain habits.
509
00:36:02.984 --> 00:36:04.685
You have certain things you do every single day.
510
00:36:05.446 --> 00:36:06.946
And then you have certain meeting cadences.
511
00:36:06.966 --> 00:36:08.687
You have certain moments that you operate in.
512
00:36:08.907 --> 00:36:09.668
You do it over time.
513
00:36:09.708 --> 00:36:12.069
You do it when things were good, things were bad.
514
00:36:12.089 --> 00:36:12.609
You had money.
515
00:36:12.629 --> 00:36:13.349
You didn't have money.
516
00:36:13.369 --> 00:36:14.830
Cash flow was great.
517
00:36:14.870 --> 00:36:15.490
Cash flow wasn't.
518
00:36:15.510 --> 00:36:16.371
You had people in the seats.
519
00:36:16.411 --> 00:36:17.231
You had people who were not.
520
00:36:17.731 --> 00:36:22.194
The inevitable outcome is that in 10, 15, 20 years, your business will still be in business.
521
00:36:23.394 --> 00:36:27.176
Consistent habits plus intentional rhythms over time yield inevitable outcomes.
522
00:36:27.746 --> 00:36:29.186
How's that different from a routine?
523
00:36:29.907 --> 00:36:32.087
I think routine, so it's a really great question.
524
00:36:32.848 --> 00:36:34.208
All of us have consistent habits.
525
00:36:34.228 --> 00:36:48.693
If I watched you over the course of your entire day and I watched you for two or three days in a row, I could basically tell you, hey, this is what Josh is going to be doing in the morning, in the afternoon, in the evening, and this is his typical consistent habit day.
526
00:36:50.183 --> 00:36:55.728
But then what I would do is I would bring them all up to you and there would be unintentional rhythms that you've put in place.
527
00:36:55.868 --> 00:36:56.169
Yes.
528
00:36:56.269 --> 00:36:58.130
There's unintentional things that you've done.
529
00:36:58.371 --> 00:37:01.093
You've just done it by default because somebody else did it.
530
00:37:01.133 --> 00:37:02.054
Somebody else told you.
531
00:37:02.375 --> 00:37:04.657
You just started doing it without even thinking about it.
532
00:37:05.217 --> 00:37:13.325
And it's the unintentional rhythms that lead us down inevitable outcomes, not that we desire, but ones that we fear.
533
00:37:14.082 --> 00:37:15.863
Hmm.
534
00:37:16.343 --> 00:37:17.103
It's the two letters.
535
00:37:17.163 --> 00:37:20.584
It's the unintentional or the intentional that creates the difference.
536
00:37:21.004 --> 00:37:21.344
Okay.
537
00:37:21.424 --> 00:37:23.005
Because we're all consistent at something.
538
00:37:23.465 --> 00:37:25.025
We all probably wake up at a certain time.
539
00:37:25.366 --> 00:37:28.787
We all probably wake up and get the kids.
540
00:37:29.387 --> 00:37:30.207
Here's a perfect example.
541
00:37:30.227 --> 00:37:30.707
Okay.
542
00:37:32.788 --> 00:37:34.028
Let's take Frank.
543
00:37:34.448 --> 00:37:35.309
I'm just going to make up a name.
544
00:37:35.849 --> 00:37:37.789
Frank wakes up every day at 6am.
545
00:37:39.670 --> 00:37:40.610
Frank rolls over.
546
00:37:40.690 --> 00:37:41.771
He hits the snooze button.
547
00:37:42.873 --> 00:37:45.195
picks up his phone, starts scrolling for a couple of minutes.
548
00:37:45.215 --> 00:37:46.917
He's like, man, I just need to get myself going.
549
00:37:46.937 --> 00:37:49.439
I need to get up and kind of get energized.
550
00:37:50.500 --> 00:37:57.787
Well, Frank actually sees his text messages and he's like, man, he's got like four or five work things that need to, okay, I'll just text here.
551
00:37:58.288 --> 00:38:05.174
Well, Frank wanted to go work out at 630, but now he doesn't get into the gym until 645 because he's got it in his house.
552
00:38:05.194 --> 00:38:06.155
Yeah.
553
00:38:06.454 --> 00:38:12.397
Now he's thinking about all the things that he has to do in his work today because he's now frustrated with what he saw in his text messages.
554
00:38:13.637 --> 00:38:14.998
He actually doesn't get a great workout in.
555
00:38:15.018 --> 00:38:17.719
He just sits on the bike and pedals for about 25 minutes.
556
00:38:17.739 --> 00:38:18.639
He gets a little sweat in.
557
00:38:20.180 --> 00:38:21.300
Then he actually even cuts it short.
558
00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:21.781
He goes up.
559
00:38:21.801 --> 00:38:22.681
He makes a phone call.
560
00:38:23.561 --> 00:38:24.442
His kids are now up.
561
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:28.082
And his kids are now making breakfast and they've spilt it all over the floor.
562
00:38:28.542 --> 00:38:36.827
So now Frank's upset because now there's a spilled breakfast in the house and his wife is getting herself ready for work.
563
00:38:36.867 --> 00:38:40.510
And they're now coming together and now they're just crossing like ships in the night.
564
00:38:40.590 --> 00:38:46.494
And they both get the kids pushed into the van and they get them off to school.
565
00:38:46.554 --> 00:38:51.717
And then all of a sudden they come back and now they're working and now he's off to his day and he's all frustrated and frazzled and irritated.
566
00:38:53.337 --> 00:38:56.379
Well, that would probably be a consistent habit for Frank.
567
00:38:56.759 --> 00:39:03.023
He wakes up, he snoozes, he scrolls, he cheats out on his workout, he has a chaotic household.
568
00:39:03.763 --> 00:39:04.884
That's consistent.
569
00:39:06.891 --> 00:39:07.891
but it's unintentional.
570
00:39:08.051 --> 00:39:08.231
Yeah.
571
00:39:08.771 --> 00:39:10.552
And that will be done over the course of time.
572
00:39:11.052 --> 00:39:15.413
And thus the inevitable outcomes is that Frank's probably not in great shape.
573
00:39:16.033 --> 00:39:17.533
Frank's constantly exhausted.
574
00:39:18.194 --> 00:39:19.454
Frank's constantly stressed out.
575
00:39:20.054 --> 00:39:22.675
Frank is probably a little bit overweight.
576
00:39:23.275 --> 00:39:28.836
Frank is not living in a peaceful and deeply connected home.
577
00:39:30.176 --> 00:39:33.297
Take it the other side, and Frank just gets a little bit more intentional
578
00:39:35.655 --> 00:39:39.901
Five days a week, Frank has a buddy that comes over and they go for a run outside every morning.
579
00:39:40.702 --> 00:39:42.625
So now Frank has an alarm set for 6 a.m.
580
00:39:42.665 --> 00:39:45.369
He jumps out of bed because Peter is waiting for him outside.
581
00:39:46.110 --> 00:39:47.352
They go for a five-mile run.
582
00:39:47.392 --> 00:39:47.952
They come back.
583
00:39:48.013 --> 00:39:50.376
They do a 10-minute wait circuit.
584
00:39:51.667 --> 00:39:53.109
Frank's now all happy and joyful.
585
00:39:54.030 --> 00:39:55.773
Frank's kids run outside, give them a big hug.
586
00:39:55.793 --> 00:39:56.854
They're excited about that.
587
00:39:57.315 --> 00:39:58.196
Frank comes inside.
588
00:39:58.276 --> 00:40:03.744
He makes breakfast for the kids, gets them breakfast, gives his wife a kiss as they're getting ready, made her a plate too.
589
00:40:04.585 --> 00:40:07.470
All of a sudden he goes in, showers, gets his clothes on.
590
00:40:08.741 --> 00:40:11.242
And he's able to now take the kids to school and now they're all connected.
591
00:40:11.262 --> 00:40:12.642
Now there's peace, now there's joy.
592
00:40:12.782 --> 00:40:18.783
Now Frank is actually thriving in this environment with just a couple of very minor intentional tweaks.
593
00:40:19.203 --> 00:40:23.404
And now Frank has an inevitable outcome of one that he desires, not one that he fears.
594
00:40:24.664 --> 00:40:26.045
Let's talk about Steve for a second.
595
00:40:26.805 --> 00:40:35.947
So Steve, he has put these in intentional habits and rhythms in place.
596
00:40:37.310 --> 00:40:53.354
to the T down to everything, wakes up at the same time, goes to puts on the same clothes, goes to the, goes to the gym, eats the same thing, goes to work, does the same stuff, comes home to the point where he can do the entire day with his eyes closed.
597
00:40:53.394 --> 00:40:53.654
Sure.
598
00:40:53.894 --> 00:41:02.096
Where's the intersection between intentional habits and rhythms and missing the present moment?
599
00:41:02.617 --> 00:41:03.077
Obsession.
600
00:41:03.757 --> 00:41:03.977
Yes.
601
00:41:05.265 --> 00:41:07.006
Again, it's a triangle I talk about.
602
00:41:07.646 --> 00:41:10.907
So you teeter-totter between two people.
603
00:41:11.948 --> 00:41:19.170
You either idolize that habit and routine and rhythm, and thus nothing comes in the area of it, and you obsess over it.
604
00:41:19.230 --> 00:41:19.911
Rigidity.
605
00:41:20.051 --> 00:41:23.192
And it literally becomes like the god of your day.
606
00:41:24.332 --> 00:41:29.734
That my gosh, don't you dare try to give me a hug and a kiss child before I'm done my workout.
607
00:41:29.754 --> 00:41:31.135
How dare you, you're disrupting me.
608
00:41:32.967 --> 00:41:38.476
How dare you try to get me to come home early to pick up the kids because you know that I am in the sauna until this time.
609
00:41:39.558 --> 00:41:42.783
Like it becomes the idol of what you operate within.
610
00:41:44.206 --> 00:41:45.828
And then there's the other side, which is the ignore.
611
00:41:47.001 --> 00:41:55.670
And you become like Frank, where you just continue to keep ignoring everything that you're doing, every symptom that your body has, every rhythm that you're supposed to have, and you just oscillate.
612
00:41:55.690 --> 00:41:57.092
And a lot of people, they go back and forth.
613
00:41:57.192 --> 00:41:59.894
Like January 1st rolls around, and they start to idolize things.
614
00:41:59.914 --> 00:42:02.417
They start to create rigidity, and they start to take it all on.
615
00:42:02.878 --> 00:42:08.383
And then it becomes too much and too busy, and they, oh, I just need to ignore everything, and I just need to survive again.
616
00:42:09.411 --> 00:42:10.692
There's no intentionality there.
617
00:42:11.292 --> 00:42:29.106
But until we see ourselves as being able to do it with a rhythm that allows us to see us not idolizing our habits and rhythms, not ignoring them, but seeing them being done as a form of worship, as like, hey, this is how I get to glorify God with my body.
618
00:42:29.146 --> 00:42:34.750
This is a rhythm that I'm glorifying God so that I have capacity to love more.
619
00:42:36.046 --> 00:42:37.451
I have capacity to serve more.
620
00:42:37.692 --> 00:42:38.997
I have capacity to build more.
621
00:42:39.278 --> 00:42:40.744
I have capacity to be present more.
622
00:42:41.902 --> 00:42:49.406
All of a sudden what happens is it no longer becomes about getting the perfect five mile runtime in, but rather it becomes, oh, you know what?
623
00:42:50.066 --> 00:42:58.351
Because I've done that five mile run and I have capacity now, I can go and bring my son for the run with me and he can run the last mile with me.
624
00:42:58.391 --> 00:43:00.492
And this is something that he's going to actually start remembering.
625
00:43:00.512 --> 00:43:07.116
Now it's going to start passing things down, even though I'm not running exactly as fast as I would normally, but this is something he'll never forget.
626
00:43:07.636 --> 00:43:08.937
And I'm bringing him along for the ride.
627
00:43:08.957 --> 00:43:09.737
Yeah.
628
00:43:09.997 --> 00:43:10.778
Now all of a sudden, you know what?
629
00:43:10.838 --> 00:43:12.940
I'm going to invite my kids into the sauna with me.
630
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:13.921
Oh, you know what?
631
00:43:13.981 --> 00:43:22.309
Now I'm going to go and make my zone two walk that I do at night with my family, or usually by myself, being done with my family.
632
00:43:23.109 --> 00:43:24.230
And we get to do it now together.
633
00:43:24.291 --> 00:43:34.380
It's like all of a sudden when you start to stop idolizing it or ignoring it, and you see it as shaping you into the image of God and who he created you to be,
634
00:43:35.681 --> 00:43:48.405
You suddenly start seeing your habits, behaviors all differently, and it becomes an intentional thing, something you get to do, something you're blessed to do, something you're privileged to do, so that gives you capacity to carry whatever callings on your life.
635
00:43:51.026 --> 00:43:51.526
Good answer.
636
00:43:52.346 --> 00:43:57.148
All right, moving this along a little bit,
637
00:43:59.651 --> 00:44:13.376
I'd venture to guess that most people think understanding health, even their own health, is wildly complicated and way above their head.
638
00:44:16.417 --> 00:44:18.778
Why do they think that and what are they getting wrong about it?
639
00:44:19.978 --> 00:44:21.719
I mean, you think that because that's what you've been taught.
640
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:25.940
You think that because that's how the wellness industry wants you to think.
641
00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:28.621
Because if I can keep you confused,
642
00:44:29.865 --> 00:44:31.225
I can charge you whatever I want.
643
00:44:31.946 --> 00:44:34.946
If I can keep you confused, I can sell you whatever I want.
644
00:44:35.587 --> 00:44:39.708
If I can keep you confused, I can keep you from taking ownership of anything.
645
00:44:42.349 --> 00:44:48.830
I want to empower, equip, and educate you so you can take ownership of your own health and find it for infinity.
646
00:44:49.711 --> 00:44:50.511
That's what I want to do.
647
00:44:50.851 --> 00:44:54.332
I want to be the voice of truth so that you can understand the thing that you are living in.
648
00:44:54.752 --> 00:44:57.473
And if you understand the thing, then you can steward it.
649
00:44:58.465 --> 00:45:04.474
Like that's the best part about this is there's a difference between knowledge and wisdom.
650
00:45:05.936 --> 00:45:07.038
Knowledge is information.
651
00:45:08.420 --> 00:45:10.202
Wisdom is understanding.
652
00:45:11.307 --> 00:45:13.048
And there's a bridge that you have to cross.
653
00:45:13.669 --> 00:45:15.530
And it's what I call the bridge of understanding.
654
00:45:15.970 --> 00:45:20.934
And so that's what I want to help people do is help them understand their body because it's very simple.
655
00:45:21.794 --> 00:45:22.395
Very simple.
656
00:45:23.055 --> 00:45:26.538
There's 30 trillion cells that exist inside you, me, and everybody watching.
657
00:45:27.598 --> 00:45:29.540
30 trillion, give or take.
658
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:31.861
But 30 trillion individualized cells.
659
00:45:33.111 --> 00:45:36.673
all working together to allow our bodies to actually function and operate at a high level.
660
00:45:37.573 --> 00:45:41.215
Every 84 days, 500 million of those cells become completely brand new.
661
00:45:41.996 --> 00:45:48.319
So that means every five to seven years, you, me, and everybody listening, everybody watching, also becomes a brand new cellular human being.
662
00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:49.540
Completely brand new.
663
00:45:50.500 --> 00:45:58.405
So then the logical question is, well, Justin, if that's the case, if we become a brand new cellular human being every five to seven years, then why does illness exist?
664
00:45:59.085 --> 00:46:00.186
Why do we age?
665
00:46:00.946 --> 00:46:02.407
Why does sickness exist?
666
00:46:03.693 --> 00:46:07.396
Well, we have to go back to ask the question of what does a cell need?
667
00:46:08.937 --> 00:46:14.462
A cell to function needs oxygen, the ability to detoxify, and it needs nutrients.
668
00:46:15.983 --> 00:46:30.075
And if it has those three things in the cellular environment, then those brand new cells that are coming in and being rejuvenated and renewed and restored and completely redeemed every 84 days are going into a healthy, thriving cellular environment.
669
00:46:31.820 --> 00:46:43.062
But for the vast majority of us, we're minus oxygen, we're minus nutrients, and we don't have the ability to detoxify because of the habits and behaviors and lifestyles that we're living.
670
00:46:43.442 --> 00:46:51.103
And thus, those brand new cells that are being renewed and remade are going into an environment that causes them to decay.
671
00:46:52.383 --> 00:47:01.005
And so we slowly drift into a poor health state because we slowly decay over time.
672
00:47:02.330 --> 00:47:09.755
It's not like you wake up one morning and you completely had your health fall out of your pants from the night before.
673
00:47:09.775 --> 00:47:16.840
It's not like, I'm thriving, I'm running five minute miles and I'm strong and I'm fit and I feel great on Tuesday and you wake up Wednesday morning.
674
00:47:16.860 --> 00:47:19.142
You're like, man, where did I gain 50 pounds from?
675
00:47:19.202 --> 00:47:20.923
And why didn't I sleep well last night?
676
00:47:20.943 --> 00:47:22.264
And where's this autoimmune disorder?
677
00:47:22.284 --> 00:47:23.885
And how did I become a type two diabetic?
678
00:47:23.905 --> 00:47:24.786
And what's going on?
679
00:47:25.126 --> 00:47:26.147
No, that took 25 years, bro.
680
00:47:26.167 --> 00:47:26.367
Yeah.
681
00:47:27.548 --> 00:47:35.994
But it took 25 years of habits and behaviors that ultimately restricted oxygen in your cells, restricted nutrients, and ultimately didn't allow yourself to detoxify.
682
00:47:36.695 --> 00:47:41.138
And when we start to look at this, each one of those things has a language, and we can dive in.
683
00:47:41.658 --> 00:47:49.964
But oxygen has a language of VO2 max, detoxification has the language of sleep quality, and nutrients has the language of cellular deficiencies.
684
00:47:50.785 --> 00:47:53.006
Now, when we come to this, you might be like, okay, Justin, cool.
685
00:47:53.266 --> 00:47:54.967
We can now look at what the cell needs.
686
00:47:55.167 --> 00:47:55.588
Three things.
687
00:47:55.728 --> 00:47:57.108
Oxygen, detox, nutrients.
688
00:47:57.169 --> 00:47:57.509
Got it.
689
00:47:58.429 --> 00:47:59.650
How do I know which one I'm missing?
690
00:48:00.190 --> 00:48:02.071
Well, that's where our body has a language.
691
00:48:02.792 --> 00:48:12.477
And our language of our body that's communicating to us how well we're handling stress based off of our cellular environment due to our habits, behaviors, and life rhythms is heart rate variability.
692
00:48:13.377 --> 00:48:13.758
HRV.
693
00:48:14.678 --> 00:48:24.340
When you know your HRV, it is the most holistic, most complete measure of health and wellness that we have because your body doesn't know the difference, mental, physical, spiritual, emotional health.
694
00:48:25.001 --> 00:48:28.261
This is the most, most, most critical.
695
00:48:28.782 --> 00:48:29.062
Why?
696
00:48:30.122 --> 00:48:38.564
Because when we look at it, if you're minus oxygen, detoxification, or nutrients at the cellular level, it sends a low-grade energy.
697
00:48:39.124 --> 00:48:44.862
inflammation marker to your nervous system saying, hey, I have to go into protect mode.
698
00:48:45.797 --> 00:48:47.599
not into repair and restore mode.
699
00:48:48.199 --> 00:49:04.892
So we're all constantly in this protect mode, which keeps us in the sympathetic state, which causes a depleted and low HRV, which is a signal to your body that the habits and behaviors and life rhythms and the way you're living is not aligned with what your cells need, and thus you're minus one of those three.
700
00:49:05.273 --> 00:49:08.635
Let's stay on this for a second because I'm wildly fascinated by HRV.
701
00:49:09.116 --> 00:49:11.097
Actually trying to get Dr. Jay Wiles on the show.
702
00:49:11.117 --> 00:49:12.599
I don't know if you're familiar with him.
703
00:49:13.059 --> 00:49:13.639
Yeah.
704
00:49:15.255 --> 00:49:17.016
So I got a whoop.
705
00:49:17.176 --> 00:49:17.336
Yeah.
706
00:49:17.356 --> 00:49:18.857
So you've got one too.
707
00:49:19.117 --> 00:49:20.838
I started wearing mine about four years ago.
708
00:49:22.139 --> 00:49:23.239
Four years, almost five years ago.
709
00:49:23.900 --> 00:49:27.541
And I had no idea what HRV was before I had this thing.
710
00:49:28.542 --> 00:49:34.945
And so as you know, when you start using a whoop, it calibrates, you know, and it's building all this information.
711
00:49:34.965 --> 00:49:36.406
You get a little bit, they drip feed you.
712
00:49:36.726 --> 00:49:39.808
You get a little bit after a couple days, a little bit after a week, a little bit after a month.
713
00:49:40.328 --> 00:49:42.149
And it paints this picture of your health.
714
00:49:42.309 --> 00:49:42.489
Yeah.
715
00:49:43.270 --> 00:49:46.652
Well, my HRV has always been low.
716
00:49:47.573 --> 00:49:50.895
So I averaged 29 in my HRV.
717
00:49:51.896 --> 00:49:57.539
And when I first saw this and I didn't know what the metric was, where do you think I turned?
718
00:49:58.340 --> 00:49:58.680
Google.
719
00:49:58.860 --> 00:49:59.241
Google.
720
00:49:59.261 --> 00:49:59.581
ChatGPT.
721
00:49:59.601 --> 00:49:59.981
Google.
722
00:50:00.381 --> 00:50:00.882
Absolutely.
723
00:50:01.222 --> 00:50:05.425
So I started Googling HRV and I thought I was going to die.
724
00:50:06.274 --> 00:50:09.457
I mean, literally everything that I read was like, oh, that's terrible.
725
00:50:09.497 --> 00:50:10.678
That's awful.
726
00:50:11.759 --> 00:50:13.741
And so I was absolutely terrified.
727
00:50:13.781 --> 00:50:15.963
Now, I have come to do more research.
728
00:50:16.144 --> 00:50:26.834
And while I know that that HRV is not what I would consider or what would be a standard of ideal, I also know there's an element of individuality and the fluctuations of HRV.
729
00:50:28.956 --> 00:50:31.620
over the course of time, tell more of the story.
730
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:33.462
I'd love to get your take.
731
00:50:33.903 --> 00:50:39.270
What is HRV exactly and why is it important and how accurate or wrong am I?
732
00:50:39.650 --> 00:50:40.892
Yeah, so...
733
00:50:44.051 --> 00:50:47.195
I think you're like most people, it's enough to be dangerous, but not enough to be informed.
734
00:50:47.915 --> 00:50:48.736
And that's the hard part.
735
00:50:49.157 --> 00:50:53.822
And so, uh, it's what I did all my postgraduate doctoral research in was heart rate variability.
736
00:50:54.683 --> 00:50:57.446
Um, I've been tracking, let's go back to that 13 year old boy.
737
00:50:58.207 --> 00:51:00.429
Um, I've been tracking HRV since I was 13.
738
00:51:01.230 --> 00:51:04.134
Um, I was, I had a heart rate monitor strap.
739
00:51:04.194 --> 00:51:05.235
I'd do it all by hand.
740
00:51:06.015 --> 00:51:10.217
I was the kid that was obsessed because I was never going to go back to be that fat kid again.
741
00:51:10.757 --> 00:51:12.358
And I wanted to know everything about my body.
742
00:51:12.958 --> 00:51:16.980
And that's, again, the mixed blessing, right?
743
00:51:17.040 --> 00:51:26.865
Is like the obsession of where I was and the hard roads I had to walk through because of that led me now to having such a deep depth of understanding of the body that I can explain it in such a simple way.
744
00:51:27.485 --> 00:51:30.747
So when we think about HRV, HRV is the language of our body.
745
00:51:31.527 --> 00:51:39.176
that is communicating how well our cells are adapting based upon our habits, behaviors, and life rhythms.
746
00:51:40.297 --> 00:51:46.164
So are our habits, behaviors, and life rhythms giving our nervous system a positive or negative adaptation loop?
747
00:51:47.145 --> 00:51:50.766
So is the way I'm living giving my body more stress or less stress?
748
00:51:51.267 --> 00:51:51.607
That's it.
749
00:51:51.867 --> 00:51:53.628
What is it practically?
750
00:51:53.848 --> 00:51:54.708
Like what is it measuring?
751
00:51:54.928 --> 00:52:01.931
Yeah, so when you look at heart rate variability, let's say your resting heart rate is 60 beats per minute and my resting heart rate is 60 beats per minute.
752
00:52:03.310 --> 00:52:07.372
Doing simple math, it would make logical sense that both of our hearts are beating at one beat per second.
753
00:52:07.632 --> 00:52:10.394
60 beats per minute divided by 60 seconds, one beat per second.
754
00:52:10.554 --> 00:52:13.515
It would make logical sense, but that's not how our body functions.
755
00:52:14.056 --> 00:52:19.438
So what HRV looks at, it looks at the time interval between each successive heartbeat over the course of time.
756
00:52:20.379 --> 00:52:22.880
And so again, let's go back to those examples I gave.
757
00:52:23.200 --> 00:52:31.565
Frank, who's got a chaotic lifestyle going on, is in poor shape, is eating whatever he wants, dehydrated, chronically stressed, all these things.
758
00:52:33.080 --> 00:52:38.682
The beats between his heart would be 975 milliseconds, 970 milliseconds, 964 milliseconds, 997 milliseconds.
759
00:52:38.743 --> 00:52:40.183
Very small changes in beat interval times.
760
00:52:40.203 --> 00:52:41.124
But the other guy who is...
761
00:52:52.337 --> 00:53:04.757
fit, eating well, hydrating well, giving his cells what they needed, having a great home environment, not having mental and emotional load long term, having a great rhythm in his life.
762
00:53:06.324 --> 00:53:17.028
The beats between his heart are 975 milliseconds, 642 milliseconds, 797 milliseconds, 804 milliseconds, 745 milliseconds.
763
00:53:17.428 --> 00:53:22.770
There's a high degree of variation signaling that your body's like, yeah, man, I got everything I need.
764
00:53:22.850 --> 00:53:23.250
I'm good.
765
00:53:24.735 --> 00:53:30.080
And so when you're looking at these two numbers, a higher HRV is better, a lower is an alert.
766
00:53:30.740 --> 00:53:32.802
Higher means that your body is adapting well.
767
00:53:33.202 --> 00:53:39.088
Lower, it's like, hey, the way you're living is in misalignment and your cells are missing these three things.
768
00:53:39.228 --> 00:53:45.693
I need you to do something different in order to take some of the stress off of what I'm just trying to do to keep you alive.
769
00:53:46.614 --> 00:53:51.976
Because mental, physical, spiritual, emotional stress, the body does not know the difference.
770
00:53:52.076 --> 00:53:54.196
And that is critical for a lot of men to sit in.
771
00:53:54.816 --> 00:53:56.717
So you could go and do a hard leg workout.
772
00:53:57.117 --> 00:53:58.478
You could go for a 10-mile run.
773
00:53:58.918 --> 00:54:00.338
You could be in a fight with your spouse.
774
00:54:00.458 --> 00:54:02.199
You could be worried about where your kids are going to college.
775
00:54:02.219 --> 00:54:03.979
You could be worried about finances.
776
00:54:04.019 --> 00:54:05.760
You could be living in the past.
777
00:54:05.860 --> 00:54:07.020
You could be living in the past.
778
00:54:07.060 --> 00:54:08.500
You could be anxious about the future.
779
00:54:08.901 --> 00:54:13.402
You could be worried about what your next job and career is going to be.
780
00:54:14.043 --> 00:54:16.505
The body doesn't know the difference between any of those forms of stress.
781
00:54:16.606 --> 00:54:26.297
All it knows is that it has to keep you alive and it has to increase cortisol, adrenaline, norepinephrine in order to keep that happening, which keeps you sympathetic, which is where a lot of us live.
782
00:54:27.530 --> 00:54:32.994
And the sympathetic overdrive suddenly starts to create long-term health negative outcomes.
783
00:54:33.455 --> 00:54:34.295
Now, here's what we found.
784
00:54:35.056 --> 00:54:37.258
We took about 5 million people's heart rate variability data.
785
00:54:38.138 --> 00:54:48.947
And what we found was that if your heart rate variability is above the 50th percentile for your age, you're 84% less likely to get any chronic illness in your lifetime.
786
00:54:51.236 --> 00:54:53.897
Now let's go back to the definition of HRV to figure out why.
787
00:54:53.997 --> 00:54:55.117
And I'm going to say this stat again.
788
00:54:55.937 --> 00:55:05.621
If your HRV is above the 50th percentile for your age, thus that means that you're 84% less likely to get any chronic illness in your lifetime.
789
00:55:06.301 --> 00:55:19.145
So going back to the definition, if your HRV is higher, which is a goal, what that means is that your body is adapting well to the stress based upon your habits, behaviors, and life rhythms because your cells have what they need.
790
00:55:20.419 --> 00:55:23.060
So all those new cells are coming into an environment that's thriving.
791
00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:25.301
Thus, that's why you don't have diabetes.
792
00:55:25.321 --> 00:55:26.622
That's why you don't get dementia.
793
00:55:26.642 --> 00:55:27.943
That's why you don't get Alzheimer's.
794
00:55:27.963 --> 00:55:29.163
That's why you don't get cancer.
795
00:55:29.183 --> 00:55:32.145
That's why you don't have COPD.
796
00:55:32.185 --> 00:55:36.267
That's why you don't get any of these other chronic illnesses that everybody else is getting.
797
00:55:36.307 --> 00:55:37.427
That's why you're not dying early.
798
00:55:37.447 --> 00:55:42.490
That's why you're living a life that is joyful, peaceful, with high degrees of capacity.
799
00:55:43.190 --> 00:55:49.572
And so by using the data, heart rate variability, it allows us to see in right away as to, oh, you know what?
800
00:55:49.592 --> 00:55:53.594
At 29, Josh, there's probably some things that we need to change right away.
801
00:55:54.354 --> 00:55:56.915
And the next thing that I would do is I'd do a VO2 max test on you.
802
00:55:56.935 --> 00:55:57.476
43.
803
00:55:57.496 --> 00:55:58.236
So 43, we know.
804
00:55:58.296 --> 00:55:58.576
Sorry, 46.
805
00:55:58.596 --> 00:55:59.116
Okay, 46.
806
00:55:59.156 --> 00:55:59.896
So at 46, we are...
807
00:56:04.258 --> 00:56:05.419
One above where we need to be.
808
00:56:05.659 --> 00:56:07.779
Baseline for men is 45 or greater.
809
00:56:08.340 --> 00:56:09.100
No matter what age?
810
00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:09.940
No matter what age.
811
00:56:09.980 --> 00:56:15.823
Because if I started to give you a VO2 max curve, yes, as we age, it goes down.
812
00:56:16.283 --> 00:56:17.763
But how old are you feeling?
813
00:56:17.783 --> 00:56:17.903
40.
814
00:56:18.124 --> 00:56:21.285
So at 40, ideally, we should probably see that closer to 60.
815
00:56:22.005 --> 00:56:23.265
Whoa, VOTMX?
816
00:56:23.425 --> 00:56:23.686
Yes.
817
00:56:23.706 --> 00:56:24.206
Holy shit.
818
00:56:24.366 --> 00:56:30.728
And so when we think about this, we're coming back to optimal oxygen levels in the cell, right?
819
00:56:30.888 --> 00:56:33.949
Remember, we're not going off of like the American standard.
820
00:56:34.229 --> 00:56:34.409
Yeah.
821
00:56:34.469 --> 00:56:40.711
We're going off of what does it mean to have adequate levels in your cell for your body to thrive and have capacity to do what you want to do long term?
822
00:56:40.791 --> 00:56:42.131
Yeah, we're not talking about normal.
823
00:56:42.151 --> 00:56:43.151
We're talking about optimal.
824
00:56:43.171 --> 00:56:44.052
We're talking about optimal.
825
00:56:44.192 --> 00:56:46.052
We're talking about that your body is functioning well.
826
00:56:46.553 --> 00:56:47.553
And so when I'm sitting here...
827
00:56:48.313 --> 00:56:53.296
As a male, we need a 45 or greater in females, 38 or greater VO2 max at any age.
828
00:56:53.817 --> 00:56:56.798
And if you are below that, it doesn't mean you're going to die.
829
00:56:56.838 --> 00:57:00.661
It just means that your cellular environment is not optimal for the new cells coming in.
830
00:57:01.261 --> 00:57:02.502
So we're right around there.
831
00:57:02.842 --> 00:57:03.543
Sleep quality.
832
00:57:04.003 --> 00:57:06.885
Well, let me even go back because I want to make sure people understand why.
833
00:57:08.200 --> 00:57:11.781
So you have a 46, actually, let me go the different route.
834
00:57:12.581 --> 00:57:14.142
You have a 40 VO2 max.
835
00:57:14.842 --> 00:57:16.542
I have a 50 VO2 max.
836
00:57:17.523 --> 00:57:18.543
Whose VO2 max is higher?
837
00:57:18.563 --> 00:57:19.023
Yours or mine?
838
00:57:19.283 --> 00:57:19.483
Yours.
839
00:57:19.683 --> 00:57:19.863
Mine.
840
00:57:20.344 --> 00:57:22.364
Thus, whose body is more efficient at using oxygen?
841
00:57:22.404 --> 00:57:22.824
Mine or yours?
842
00:57:22.884 --> 00:57:23.064
Yours.
843
00:57:23.464 --> 00:57:23.665
Mine.
844
00:57:25.185 --> 00:57:29.466
So just sitting here having this conversation, whose body is this more stressful on?
845
00:57:29.506 --> 00:57:30.006
Mine or yours?
846
00:57:30.567 --> 00:57:30.887
Yours.
847
00:57:31.667 --> 00:57:33.667
How about if we stand up and go for a walk outside?
848
00:57:34.628 --> 00:57:35.468
How about sleeping at night?
849
00:57:37.467 --> 00:57:40.669
Everything in life becomes more stressful on your body, even though you don't know it.
850
00:57:41.949 --> 00:57:44.671
And that's a big eye-opening for a lot of people.
851
00:57:44.691 --> 00:57:46.372
They're like, well, I don't feel stressed.
852
00:57:46.412 --> 00:57:53.996
Yeah, you don't feel stressed, but your body at the cellular level is struggling, which is why you have a depleted HRV, and that's the signal.
853
00:57:54.796 --> 00:57:57.718
But it's because of all your habits, behaviors, and life rhythms.
854
00:57:58.838 --> 00:58:00.761
So now we go on to sleep quality, right?
855
00:58:01.321 --> 00:58:10.994
So I think this one is a cool one because we sleep in four sleep stages, a light sleep stage, a REM, a deep and a slow wave sleep.
856
00:58:11.154 --> 00:58:12.776
So deep and slow wave can be the same.
857
00:58:13.116 --> 00:58:13.917
And then a wake cycle.
858
00:58:13.937 --> 00:58:14.438
And then,
859
00:58:14.698 --> 00:58:17.119
It takes approximately 90 minutes to go through all four stages.
860
00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:22.382
And sleep quality is what we call those middle two, slow wave and deep.
861
00:58:22.482 --> 00:58:23.343
And REM, pardon me.
862
00:58:23.383 --> 00:58:26.564
Yeah, I just had, for my audience, I just had Dr. Michael Bruce on the show.
863
00:58:26.604 --> 00:58:27.605
Beautiful.
864
00:58:27.985 --> 00:58:34.048
So if you want to know more about the sleep cycles and what Justin is talking about, definitely check that episode out.
865
00:58:35.709 --> 00:58:43.558
The core of what all the data shows is that we need 38% to 50% of our total sleep time in those middle two sleep stages.
866
00:58:44.218 --> 00:58:46.701
Slow wave and deep and REM.
867
00:58:47.422 --> 00:58:49.204
Okay, so slow wave, deep, same thing, and REM.
868
00:58:49.224 --> 00:58:56.812
So between those two, middle two, 38% to 50% of total sleep time in those stages in order to get adequate detoxification of the body.
869
00:58:57.412 --> 00:58:57.653
Why?
870
00:58:59.004 --> 00:59:05.147
our body only detoxifies four ways, breath, sweat, urine, and stool.
871
00:59:05.187 --> 00:59:07.028
It's the only way we get toxins out of the body.
872
00:59:08.168 --> 00:59:16.292
Now, yes, the liver function or yes, the liver, the kidneys, the lymphatic, they all get the toxins out.
873
00:59:17.072 --> 00:59:19.073
But then the glymphatic system
874
00:59:20.581 --> 00:59:22.943
lymphatic with a G, glymphatic system.
875
00:59:23.544 --> 00:59:28.368
Think of it like the street sweeper for the cells, comes in and grabs- That's in the brain, right?
876
00:59:28.388 --> 00:59:36.615
Yep, comes in through the brain, and it takes all of the toxins that all of those other things have eliminated, and it gets it to the appropriate delivery sites.
877
00:59:37.858 --> 00:59:40.943
But the glymphatic system is only active.
878
00:59:40.963 --> 00:59:41.764
It's like a light switch.
879
00:59:42.345 --> 00:59:47.994
It's only active during those middle two sleep stages, which is why you need 38 to 50%.
880
00:59:48.034 --> 00:59:51.399
Well, what's the first thing that high capacity leaders often give up?
881
00:59:51.640 --> 00:59:51.880
Sleep.
882
00:59:53.099 --> 00:59:58.185
and not only sleep, but they end up sleeping and they're stressed while they're sleeping, so their sleep quality is so low.
883
00:59:58.205 --> 01:00:08.917
So even though you're sleeping, you're not getting the quality necessary, thus you don't actually have the glymphatic system turn on, so thus you're not detoxifying, you're actually only recycling the toxins through your body, which is why.
884
01:00:09.657 --> 01:00:26.923
You feel constantly inflamed, which is why you have brain fog, which is why you've got this gut issue that won't go away, which is why all of a sudden, no matter how long you sleep, you feel like you need that three and four and five cups of coffee to get going because there's toxins running through your body, which is again why HRV is depleted and why it is low.
885
01:00:27.644 --> 01:00:32.766
Because when we go back and we actually start looking at your sleep quality, it is not where it needs to be.
886
01:00:33.566 --> 01:00:36.527
Your body, again, giving you a signal that something is not right.
887
01:00:36.885 --> 01:00:37.506
Interesting.
888
01:00:37.906 --> 01:00:40.788
It's so fascinating how all this stuff works together.
889
01:00:40.888 --> 01:00:41.568
Yeah.
890
01:00:41.588 --> 01:00:47.052
I want to keep using me as a punching bag here for a second.
891
01:00:47.252 --> 01:00:51.856
Because I'm listening to you and so I've already given you my VO2 max.
892
01:00:51.876 --> 01:00:53.437
I've already given you my HRV.
893
01:00:53.957 --> 01:00:56.799
So my sleep, you had mentioned sleep.
894
01:00:57.680 --> 01:01:02.523
So over 50% of my sleep is in REM or deep.
895
01:01:03.004 --> 01:01:03.264
Really?
896
01:01:03.464 --> 01:01:03.744
Yes.
897
01:01:03.784 --> 01:01:04.405
Let's take a peek.
898
01:01:04.605 --> 01:01:04.785
Yeah.
899
01:01:07.535 --> 01:01:10.557
Yeah, since you have a whoop, I'll let you go to town on this, man.
900
01:01:11.837 --> 01:01:12.238
Have fun.
901
01:01:12.658 --> 01:01:13.658
Last night was not a good night.
902
01:01:14.399 --> 01:01:14.859
Don't judge me.
903
01:01:15.980 --> 01:01:16.560
No judgment.
904
01:01:16.920 --> 01:01:21.443
Yeah, so here was last night's sleep.
905
01:01:21.463 --> 01:01:21.723
Cool.
906
01:01:22.343 --> 01:01:24.404
Let me take a peek at this.
907
01:01:24.524 --> 01:01:25.865
And here's why I love this, right?
908
01:01:25.905 --> 01:01:27.066
And feel free to swipe around, man.
909
01:01:28.266 --> 01:01:33.049
When we come in here, I love this for a few reasons.
910
01:01:33.830 --> 01:01:34.410
Because...
911
01:01:36.017 --> 01:01:43.379
When we now go in, I'm gonna take a look at restorative sleep.
912
01:01:46.640 --> 01:01:57.322
So when we come in, we take a look, you've got a six month average of restorative sleep of around 49, 50%, which is great.
913
01:01:57.982 --> 01:01:58.702
Absolutely awesome.
914
01:01:59.923 --> 01:02:04.844
And when we come over here and we take a look at VO2 max,
915
01:02:07.225 --> 01:02:10.547
My guess would be back in April.
916
01:02:12.028 --> 01:02:14.129
Did you start training a little bit harder?
917
01:02:14.189 --> 01:02:15.150
Yeah, running a little bit more.
918
01:02:15.170 --> 01:02:16.230
Started running a little bit more?
919
01:02:16.390 --> 01:02:18.031
Took some time off in March.
920
01:02:18.331 --> 01:02:18.512
Yep.
921
01:02:19.092 --> 01:02:20.553
It's 46 still, right?
922
01:02:20.653 --> 01:02:23.634
And you can see you've literally gone from 41 up to 46.
923
01:02:23.694 --> 01:02:24.075
Yes.
924
01:02:24.475 --> 01:02:27.797
And so there's been this increase in that ability.
925
01:02:27.817 --> 01:02:29.298
I also quit drinking the first of the year.
926
01:02:30.018 --> 01:02:39.467
So that won't have an impact directly on VO2 max, but it will have a direct impact on heart rate variability.
927
01:02:39.527 --> 01:02:41.829
My HRV average went down.
928
01:02:42.269 --> 01:02:42.710
Did it really?
929
01:02:43.430 --> 01:02:45.572
This is why I'm completely baffled.
930
01:02:45.972 --> 01:02:54.961
See, I would say it didn't because you started in, I'm looking over six months, you started around 30.
931
01:02:55.421 --> 01:02:55.601
Yeah.
932
01:02:56.742 --> 01:03:00.504
And then you went to 28, back to 30, 28, back to 30, 29.
933
01:03:00.564 --> 01:03:05.687
But if you look at, if you can, can you go back a year or the previous six months?
934
01:03:06.248 --> 01:03:06.948
Six months only.
935
01:03:07.368 --> 01:03:07.629
Okay.
936
01:03:08.029 --> 01:03:08.649
Yeah.
937
01:03:10.290 --> 01:03:12.992
Because the six months before that, it was higher.
938
01:03:14.428 --> 01:03:21.030
And I'm not saying it was because I was drinking, that would be ridiculous, you know, but I'm wondering what else changed.
939
01:03:21.590 --> 01:03:24.871
So again, I would disagree.
940
01:03:26.692 --> 01:03:34.534
Because even when I go back, I see your average of 34, 32, 35 to 32.
941
01:03:36.255 --> 01:03:42.617
Now, what is interesting, and this is what I would wanna know, this is where I think it's really,
942
01:03:44.216 --> 01:03:45.697
is where I think it gets fun.
943
01:03:46.538 --> 01:03:49.841
As we go into December, December was your highest.
944
01:03:51.422 --> 01:03:53.664
It's your highest, but it's still not much of a change.
945
01:03:53.684 --> 01:03:57.307
It's like 30 to 35 average.
946
01:03:57.788 --> 01:04:00.310
If I looked at it on a graph, I would say you're pretty flat.
947
01:04:01.531 --> 01:04:06.215
And so what that tells me, hey, your VO2 max is low.
948
01:04:06.575 --> 01:04:07.256
Like we know that.
949
01:04:07.376 --> 01:04:09.157
And this is something we're going to constantly work on.
950
01:04:09.518 --> 01:04:10.238
So how are we going to do it?
951
01:04:10.258 --> 01:04:11.760
We're going to do it through zone two training.
952
01:04:12.440 --> 01:04:14.241
210 minutes a week, that's our goal.
953
01:04:14.261 --> 01:04:16.561
That's where we need to be in 60 to 70% of our max heart rate.
954
01:04:16.981 --> 01:04:19.002
And then 30 minutes per week in zone five.
955
01:04:19.822 --> 01:04:20.823
Oh, wow.
956
01:04:21.043 --> 01:04:28.545
If we can manufacture both of those, then we are gonna inevitably, remember, consistent plus intentional over time equals inevitable outcomes.
957
01:04:28.565 --> 01:04:39.969
We're gonna inevitably see Bo2 max go up because the adaptation that happens in the body with zone two work is an increase in cardiac efficiency, meaning we move more blood through the body at more efficient rates.
958
01:04:40.709 --> 01:04:47.091
And then zone five creates a adaptation of the body called cardiac output, meaning we're moving more blood with every heartbeat.
959
01:04:47.812 --> 01:04:52.493
So if you're moving more blood more efficiently, blood is the only thing that moves oxygen through the body.
960
01:04:53.214 --> 01:04:56.175
Inevitably, you have to see an increase in VO2 max.
961
01:04:56.195 --> 01:04:56.515
That's it.
962
01:04:56.935 --> 01:05:05.021
And so many of us, we go and we get a personal trainer and we just go for the five-mile run and we just go and do the Peloton ride and we hop and we do all these other things.
963
01:05:05.062 --> 01:05:07.243
But there's a lack of intentionality behind it.
964
01:05:07.684 --> 01:05:10.005
So we don't see the outcome that we want and we get frustrated.
965
01:05:10.506 --> 01:05:14.349
Or we do all these things over the course of five, ten years and we're like, well, why is my numbers low?
966
01:05:14.549 --> 01:05:15.029
Yeah.
967
01:05:15.049 --> 01:05:17.912
Well, because we've missed out on the intention of seeing the rise of where we're going.
968
01:05:17.952 --> 01:05:20.213
So if we can go and take – I guarantee you this –
969
01:05:21.034 --> 01:05:28.317
This is why, again, with everybody who comes through Own It, we say, if you don't see the changes and results you want in 12 months, we will do it for free until you do.
970
01:05:28.757 --> 01:05:31.238
Because it's an intentional and inevitable outcome.
971
01:05:31.278 --> 01:05:32.499
We know what we do works.
972
01:05:32.699 --> 01:05:34.000
And it's a powerful system.
973
01:05:35.698 --> 01:05:39.900
I guarantee you we could go and take you and get your VO2 max into the 50s.
974
01:05:40.901 --> 01:05:45.083
And I guarantee you we would see a 35% to 45% jump in your HRV.
975
01:05:45.283 --> 01:05:45.763
Guaranteed.
976
01:05:45.863 --> 01:05:47.224
35% to 45%.
977
01:05:47.264 --> 01:05:47.724
35% to 45%.
978
01:05:47.784 --> 01:05:48.285
Guaranteed.
979
01:05:48.365 --> 01:05:48.625
Wow.
980
01:05:49.285 --> 01:05:50.746
Your sleep quality, already awesome.
981
01:05:50.926 --> 01:05:52.807
So your sleep hygiene, I guarantee you is good.
982
01:05:53.127 --> 01:05:54.708
The way you prepare for sleep is good.
983
01:05:54.828 --> 01:05:55.408
That is dialed.
984
01:05:56.829 --> 01:05:57.749
Then we get to number three.
985
01:05:58.410 --> 01:05:59.870
And this is where I think it gets interesting.
986
01:06:00.590 --> 01:06:05.892
Because when we talk about nutrients, it's nutrients at the cellular level.
987
01:06:06.552 --> 01:06:09.713
And so what a lot of people do is they've got, oh, I've done blood work before Justin.
988
01:06:09.833 --> 01:06:13.494
Well, yes, you've done blood work, but what you've done is blood serum blood work.
989
01:06:14.234 --> 01:06:22.577
A complete metabolic panel, a CMP, a complete blood count, a CBC, an LPP panel, like a lip profile or a cardiac panel, something like that.
990
01:06:24.090 --> 01:06:24.991
Those are important to do.
991
01:06:25.611 --> 01:06:27.633
But what they look at is they look at what's broken.
992
01:06:28.194 --> 01:06:30.315
And why would traditional med wanna look at what's broken?
993
01:06:31.076 --> 01:06:32.658
Because we can fix it.
994
01:06:32.898 --> 01:06:33.819
We can give you a prescription.
995
01:06:33.839 --> 01:06:34.119
For a price.
996
01:06:34.379 --> 01:06:35.780
Exactly, we can give you a prescription.
997
01:06:36.861 --> 01:06:40.624
And so when we think about this and we start looking at the nutrients,
998
01:06:41.602 --> 01:06:48.545
We can have high levels of vitamin C, vitamin D, vitamin K, iron, folate, magnesium in the blood serum.
999
01:06:50.526 --> 01:06:54.307
But suddenly when you go to a cellular panel, you're deficient in all of them.
1000
01:06:55.107 --> 01:07:03.211
Because you aren't able to absorb the nutrients from the serum into the cell for the body to use.
1001
01:07:03.811 --> 01:07:08.433
So even though you're supplementing with everything under the sun, even though you're trying to eat clean...
1002
01:07:09.533 --> 01:07:13.396
Your body is not absorbing the nutrients into the cell, which is where the body actually uses them.
1003
01:07:13.456 --> 01:07:16.998
So even though you're doing the things that you think are right, your body's thinking you're starving.
1004
01:07:18.239 --> 01:07:20.520
And so there's a chronic stress that goes on.
1005
01:07:21.201 --> 01:07:24.163
And until we know what we're missing, we don't know what to do.
1006
01:07:24.223 --> 01:07:34.449
And this goes back again to a lot of things I talk about, which are the sourcing of our supplements, the sourcing of the quality, because a lot of us are having man-made nutrients.
1007
01:07:34.489 --> 01:07:38.112
I'll give folate and vitamin B12 as a perfect example.
1008
01:07:38.752 --> 01:07:44.601
Everybody can go look at their cabinets when they go home and their supplement containers and all these things.
1009
01:07:45.603 --> 01:07:50.470
Folic acid is a man-made version of folate.
1010
01:07:50.490 --> 01:07:50.730
Okay.
1011
01:07:52.483 --> 01:07:57.226
What the natural version is that the body is able to absorb is actually 5-methyl tetrafolate.
1012
01:07:57.246 --> 01:07:58.487
It's the methylated version.
1013
01:08:00.388 --> 01:08:03.531
Vitamin B12 is cyanocobalamin.
1014
01:08:04.011 --> 01:08:09.475
Cyanocobalamin is the man-made version, cheap form of B12, where methylcobalamin is the
1015
01:08:10.235 --> 01:08:12.196
actual methylated form that we can absorb.
1016
01:08:12.216 --> 01:08:13.836
And that's the kind I have, methylated.
1017
01:08:13.856 --> 01:08:14.617
It's awesome.
1018
01:08:14.857 --> 01:08:19.819
And I'll be clear too for the audience that I've taken regular B12 and I've taken methylated B12.
1019
01:08:20.079 --> 01:08:21.819
Regular B12 does nothing.
1020
01:08:21.879 --> 01:08:22.019
Yeah.
1021
01:08:22.039 --> 01:08:23.160
It's like zero for me.
1022
01:08:23.640 --> 01:08:27.261
And so those are two examples, but there's over 140 different nutrients.
1023
01:08:29.255 --> 01:08:35.677
that have methylated forms or unmethylated forms, that have bioavailable forms and lesser bioavailable forms.
1024
01:08:36.197 --> 01:08:40.559
And so because of this, we need to understand the way that our cells are.
1025
01:08:40.619 --> 01:08:42.039
Are we somebody who can methylate?
1026
01:08:42.079 --> 01:08:43.020
Are we somebody who cannot?
1027
01:08:43.340 --> 01:08:45.760
Are we somebody who's absorbing what we're eating or is it something we're not?
1028
01:08:45.800 --> 01:08:56.364
So you could be paying for high levels of AG1 and IM8 and multivitamins and organic foods and your body's not able to absorb them because it doesn't have the pathways open in order to do it.
1029
01:08:56.884 --> 01:09:02.666
And so you're walking around chronically depleted in the very nutrients that your body needs.
1030
01:09:02.766 --> 01:09:07.527
And then what do we see in men, especially between the ages of 35 and 55?
1031
01:09:08.127 --> 01:09:09.067
We're low in energy.
1032
01:09:09.207 --> 01:09:10.168
Our libido is low.
1033
01:09:10.488 --> 01:09:12.008
We're having erectile dysfunction.
1034
01:09:12.068 --> 01:09:14.649
We've got muscle mass that's dropping off.
1035
01:09:14.669 --> 01:09:16.089
You don't feel like how you used to.
1036
01:09:16.429 --> 01:09:17.730
You go to your doctor and what do they say?
1037
01:09:18.630 --> 01:09:22.975
low testosterone, testosterone therapy, hormone replacement therapy, that's what we should do.
1038
01:09:23.496 --> 01:09:28.421
Well, testosterone and hormone replacement therapy, they're end of the road products.
1039
01:09:28.781 --> 01:09:30.223
They are made by something.
1040
01:09:31.584 --> 01:09:32.105
Well, what?
1041
01:09:33.366 --> 01:09:36.327
Vitamins, minerals, amino acids, they're the foundation to everything.
1042
01:09:37.408 --> 01:09:38.848
Hormones do something in the body.
1043
01:09:38.868 --> 01:09:40.009
They don't create anything.
1044
01:09:40.469 --> 01:09:42.010
Vitamins don't do anything in the body.
1045
01:09:42.030 --> 01:09:43.270
They create everything.
1046
01:09:44.091 --> 01:09:50.774
And so the hormone deficiency that you have of estrogen imbalance and testosterone that's low...
1047
01:09:51.654 --> 01:09:54.136
It actually came not from a testosterone deficiency.
1048
01:09:54.156 --> 01:10:00.379
It came from a vitamin, mineral, and amino acid deficiency that was done over the course of 10, 15, 20 years.
1049
01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:02.240
And that's why you feel so crappy.
1050
01:10:02.681 --> 01:10:13.087
So if all of a sudden we started to get your cells what it needed, we started to replace all the different types of supplements and get you on a diet that is oriented back based on the things that you were actually deficient in,
1051
01:10:13.587 --> 01:10:19.692
suddenly over the course of three, four months, you'd be like, Justin, why did I lose all this weight without doing anything different?
1052
01:10:19.972 --> 01:10:21.774
Why did I all of a sudden start to gain muscle again?
1053
01:10:21.834 --> 01:10:23.355
Why all of a sudden did my joint pain go away?
1054
01:10:23.595 --> 01:10:24.916
Why all of a sudden did my hair get thicker?
1055
01:10:24.976 --> 01:10:28.800
Why all of a sudden does my brain fog not have that anymore?
1056
01:10:28.840 --> 01:10:32.282
Why all of a sudden do I feel like an absolute champion in the bedroom again?
1057
01:10:33.043 --> 01:10:34.264
Because your body has what it needs.
1058
01:10:35.265 --> 01:10:39.408
And we're doing this in a way that comes back to just listening to the whispers of the body.
1059
01:10:39.869 --> 01:10:42.110
And if your body has what it needs at the cellular level,
1060
01:10:42.991 --> 01:10:48.219
Then the cellular environment is prepared to thrive and thus HRV increases because stress goes down.
1061
01:10:50.061 --> 01:10:58.233
It is literally those four things, VO2 max, sleep quality, cellular deficiencies, all helping us to understand it through heart rate variability.
1062
01:11:00.806 --> 01:11:09.049
It's amazing that you can explain this to me on less than a two-hour podcast, but I've lived my entire life pretty much unable to understand it.
1063
01:11:09.089 --> 01:11:15.691
Now, I've tried more the last few years, you know, and it's fascinating.
1064
01:11:15.771 --> 01:11:20.073
But my point in that is it's not that difficult to understand.
1065
01:11:20.653 --> 01:11:21.773
But we're not taught.
1066
01:11:22.393 --> 01:11:23.574
Not even are we not taught.
1067
01:11:23.594 --> 01:11:28.816
I would also argue that we're misinformed and manipulated.
1068
01:11:28.836 --> 01:11:29.376
On purpose.
1069
01:11:30.404 --> 01:11:37.298
not just on purpose, but like, yes, maybe on purpose by some people, because they're like, hey, I want to keep you in my ecosystem, but because they've never understood it.
1070
01:11:38.180 --> 01:11:40.124
So if I don't understand something,
1071
01:11:41.478 --> 01:11:43.880
If I confuse you, I can keep the power.
1072
01:11:44.901 --> 01:11:49.144
It's like if somebody's telling me how to build a house and they're like, well, yeah, you just go grab some wood.
1073
01:11:49.184 --> 01:11:55.028
And then I go to the lumber's yard and I come back and I grab normal wood that's not like pressurized wood so that it doesn't rot.
1074
01:11:55.068 --> 01:11:55.968
No, you got the wrong wood.
1075
01:11:56.069 --> 01:11:56.829
Here, let me do it.
1076
01:11:56.889 --> 01:11:58.290
I hear it to order my wood.
1077
01:11:58.771 --> 01:12:02.713
Well, you could have just told me I need a pressurized wood as to why I need it because it makes logical sense.
1078
01:12:02.753 --> 01:12:03.354
It's intuitive.
1079
01:12:04.054 --> 01:12:05.736
Everything I just walked you through is intuitive.
1080
01:12:05.756 --> 01:12:06.376
Yeah.
1081
01:12:06.536 --> 01:12:07.876
It all comes back to cellular health.
1082
01:12:07.936 --> 01:12:08.877
You can manipulate it.
1083
01:12:08.897 --> 01:12:15.918
You can tell me this diet, that diet, this supplement, this sleep routine, this biohack, this, it all comes back to cellular health.
1084
01:12:16.098 --> 01:12:16.618
That's it.
1085
01:12:17.298 --> 01:12:28.381
And if you understand the cell and what it needs, oxygen, nutrient, the ability to detoxify, and it all is uncovered by the nervous system, which communicates it to you through HRV, I get to take you on a journey over the course of 12 months.
1086
01:12:28.741 --> 01:12:32.982
And I no longer force you to do anything, but I've empowered you to help you understand your body better.
1087
01:12:33.342 --> 01:12:34.382
So you get the power.
1088
01:12:35.242 --> 01:12:36.262
You become informed.
1089
01:12:36.383 --> 01:12:37.563
You become educated.
1090
01:12:37.663 --> 01:12:45.446
You become this whole new person that can take ownership of their health to find life abundantly in a way that wasn't available before.
1091
01:12:51.148 --> 01:12:52.809
Jesus, man.
1092
01:12:53.289 --> 01:12:56.710
It's a lot, you know, but it makes so much sense.
1093
01:12:57.790 --> 01:13:01.952
And I just, I want so many people to hear this message because it's,
1094
01:13:03.940 --> 01:13:11.326
one of, if not the most important message that anybody can hear on taking control of their own life.
1095
01:13:11.406 --> 01:13:13.127
Not only their health, but their life.
1096
01:13:13.227 --> 01:13:18.892
Because the prerequisite to that, the precursor to that is your health.
1097
01:13:19.072 --> 01:13:19.232
Yeah.
1098
01:13:20.653 --> 01:13:21.073
Amazing.
1099
01:13:21.413 --> 01:13:25.156
And I think even landing on top of that, Josh, is...
1100
01:13:26.750 --> 01:13:33.652
I've been somebody, you go back through those 25 years I walked you through, I was somebody who never really had their health.
1101
01:13:34.452 --> 01:13:35.412
I constantly chased it.
1102
01:13:36.993 --> 01:13:37.993
I felt it at times.
1103
01:13:38.653 --> 01:13:39.874
I knew what it looked like.
1104
01:13:41.414 --> 01:13:44.935
I could visualize it, but I didn't always feel it.
1105
01:13:47.376 --> 01:13:51.297
And a lot of us live in this space where we don't know how good good could feel.
1106
01:13:52.717 --> 01:13:55.998
We can see it in other people and we just believe that, oh, that's not for me.
1107
01:13:57.873 --> 01:14:03.755
And I think what ends up happening is we not just lose hope, but we also then lower our standard.
1108
01:14:04.355 --> 01:14:06.955
We're like, well, this is just what it takes to build a billion dollar business.
1109
01:14:06.975 --> 01:14:09.656
This is what it takes to build a $10 million business.
1110
01:14:09.676 --> 01:14:11.497
This is what it takes to lead a team of 50.
1111
01:14:11.537 --> 01:14:14.057
This is what it takes to build a business and lead a family.
1112
01:14:14.097 --> 01:14:17.578
This is what it takes to be a father and a husband and a business owner.
1113
01:14:17.618 --> 01:14:18.438
This is what it takes.
1114
01:14:18.678 --> 01:14:24.640
Success takes sacrifice no matter what it looks like because sometimes I don't know what it looks like.
1115
01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:24.960
Yeah.
1116
01:14:25.761 --> 01:14:31.124
And we sacrifice our health on the altar of success instead of realizing that they go hand in hand.
1117
01:14:35.446 --> 01:14:35.726
All right.
1118
01:14:35.807 --> 01:14:38.968
I want to talk about your book a little bit now.
1119
01:14:39.729 --> 01:14:40.930
You're a wealth of knowledge.
1120
01:14:41.210 --> 01:14:46.533
Listen, I can talk to you for 12 hours at a time, man, and still not get as much information as I know that you can give me.
1121
01:14:48.200 --> 01:14:56.756
You've said that holy health promise is to lead from overflow, not exhaustion, and to treat stewarding your health as worship.
1122
01:14:56.836 --> 01:14:57.036
Yeah.
1123
01:14:57.778 --> 01:14:58.459
Walk me through that.
1124
01:14:58.479 --> 01:14:58.940
Yeah.
1125
01:14:59.351 --> 01:15:05.155
Yes, I think what happens, again, is a lot of us feel like we lead from a space of exhaustion.
1126
01:15:06.035 --> 01:15:08.997
And the promise that God gave us was always life abundantly.
1127
01:15:09.457 --> 01:15:10.538
Well, what is life abundantly?
1128
01:15:11.038 --> 01:15:11.919
It's more than enough.
1129
01:15:12.719 --> 01:15:13.680
It's an overflow.
1130
01:15:14.800 --> 01:15:27.008
And so many of us are coming home and running our households, leading our families, leading our spouses, leading our kids, leading even our leadership teams from what's left, not from a place of overflow.
1131
01:15:27.028 --> 01:15:27.188
Right?
1132
01:15:28.818 --> 01:15:33.965
And that's the promise that I wanna give people is that when we can take you on this journey, there will be more than enough.
1133
01:15:34.385 --> 01:15:39.132
There's more than enough time, there's more than enough energy, there's more than enough focus, there's more than enough clarity.
1134
01:15:39.632 --> 01:15:45.020
It comes from a space of overflow and I've seen it thousands of times in our own clients come through.
1135
01:15:46.120 --> 01:15:47.441
I think a cool story.
1136
01:15:48.142 --> 01:15:50.763
So there was a guy, he came to us.
1137
01:15:51.123 --> 01:15:51.904
His name's Dustin.
1138
01:15:52.304 --> 01:15:53.545
You won't mind me telling this story.
1139
01:15:55.026 --> 01:16:07.373
48 years old, six kids under the age of 15, owns two massive brokerages, basically owns all of North and South Carolina for a big real estate company.
1140
01:16:08.453 --> 01:16:23.965
And he was about 85 pounds overweight, had fatty liver disease, had just been diagnosed as a pre-diabetic, was on 40 different supplements, trying to do all the right things, and was using testosterone to try and get his energy back.
1141
01:16:24.985 --> 01:16:28.847
And he heard me on a podcast and then he went and came and saw me speak.
1142
01:16:28.967 --> 01:16:32.288
And he's like, bro, you're just speaking a language that resonates with me.
1143
01:16:32.308 --> 01:16:32.828
Can you help?
1144
01:16:34.228 --> 01:16:38.490
And we put very specific things in place for him.
1145
01:16:38.790 --> 01:16:40.891
It started to just walk the journey with him.
1146
01:16:41.031 --> 01:16:45.333
I think that's the cool part is when we get to go on the journey with you, we don't just say, hey, here's what you do.
1147
01:16:45.353 --> 01:16:45.733
Go do it.
1148
01:16:45.773 --> 01:16:48.734
It's like, no, we're going to disciple you on this journey for 12 months.
1149
01:16:48.754 --> 01:16:49.094
You got...
1150
01:16:49.794 --> 01:16:51.976
a team in place to help run this race with you.
1151
01:16:53.097 --> 01:16:59.081
And over the course of not just 12 months, but 24 months, he lost 80 pounds.
1152
01:16:59.942 --> 01:17:01.403
He was off all medications.
1153
01:17:01.963 --> 01:17:02.884
He was on a statin as well.
1154
01:17:02.904 --> 01:17:04.485
He was off all medications.
1155
01:17:04.525 --> 01:17:05.385
Including the testosterone.
1156
01:17:05.425 --> 01:17:06.426
Got off testosterone.
1157
01:17:07.467 --> 01:17:10.409
Was off all supplements except for five, ones that he needed.
1158
01:17:10.669 --> 01:17:12.551
We custom blended one for him too.
1159
01:17:14.192 --> 01:17:18.355
And this past year, he just competed in the senior CrossFit Games.
1160
01:17:19.315 --> 01:17:21.657
uh, just cause that was like a goal of his, something he wanted to do.
1161
01:17:22.678 --> 01:17:28.482
And, uh, when he came down every year, we bring about a hundred of our clients down to Miami and we do what's called testimony week.
1162
01:17:29.063 --> 01:17:30.243
And so they all get to mingle.
1163
01:17:30.284 --> 01:17:31.044
They all get to chill.
1164
01:17:31.064 --> 01:17:31.825
They got to hang out.
1165
01:17:32.685 --> 01:17:36.508
And Dustin sat in the studio just like this cross from him.
1166
01:17:37.409 --> 01:17:38.389
And he sat down.
1167
01:17:38.470 --> 01:17:40.771
And as he sat down, his eyes welled up with tears.
1168
01:17:41.312 --> 01:17:42.533
I was like, man, why are you crying?
1169
01:17:42.633 --> 01:17:44.194
Like we haven't even started.
1170
01:17:44.214 --> 01:17:44.334
Yeah.
1171
01:17:44.834 --> 01:17:52.101
He's like, man, back in 2017, we bought our dream house in Telluride, Colorado.
1172
01:17:52.821 --> 01:17:57.265
And we've got our brokerages in the Carolinas, you know, but we go there in the winter.
1173
01:17:58.226 --> 01:18:09.796
And he goes, in 2017, I bought my kids and my wife and all their ski outfits, their jackets, their skis, their boots, their pants, their goggles, their helmets, and they're going
1174
01:18:10.136 --> 01:18:15.300
And we'd go there every winter and we'd wake up in the morning as a family and we'd have breakfast together.
1175
01:18:15.380 --> 01:18:19.562
And then I'd watch them all walk out the door and I'd work all day.
1176
01:18:19.602 --> 01:18:22.544
And then I'd watch them come back in at night and they'd tell me the stories.
1177
01:18:22.604 --> 01:18:25.346
And we'd do that over and over and over again for a couple months.
1178
01:18:25.366 --> 01:18:26.066
And then we'd come home.
1179
01:18:27.487 --> 01:18:28.888
And I did that for eight and a half years.
1180
01:18:30.269 --> 01:18:31.550
And it goes this past year.
1181
01:18:35.104 --> 01:18:50.123
I went and bought the stuff for the first time when we re-outfit everybody because for the first time I felt like I got my life back, that I had that ability to do that, that I felt well enough to go and do that, that wouldn't compromise my ability to put food on the table.
1182
01:18:51.724 --> 01:18:57.447
And he goes, what you guys gave me was you gave me the ability to live life at full volume and in full color.
1183
01:18:58.268 --> 01:19:00.729
And he goes, that's life abundantly.
1184
01:19:01.889 --> 01:19:04.570
And that is like, that's what this is all about.
1185
01:19:04.711 --> 01:19:06.051
Like I get goosebumps telling the story.
1186
01:19:06.371 --> 01:19:08.152
I get goosebumps listening to you tell the story.
1187
01:19:08.672 --> 01:19:12.634
It's like, that's what this is all about is he didn't know what was on the other side.
1188
01:19:13.335 --> 01:19:15.355
And this is by no means saying you're not doing your best.
1189
01:19:15.536 --> 01:19:17.156
Everybody's doing their best.
1190
01:19:17.356 --> 01:19:18.077
They're trying.
1191
01:19:19.088 --> 01:19:23.132
But the problem is when you're trying, it's not a lack of effort.
1192
01:19:23.192 --> 01:19:24.493
It's a lack of direction.
1193
01:19:25.774 --> 01:19:30.559
I don't care how hard you work to get to California from New York City, but if you go north, you'll never get there.
1194
01:19:31.902 --> 01:19:39.688
And a lot of us are just misdirected because we haven't ever learned from somebody who knows the body and wants to serve and lead in a way that's different.
1195
01:19:40.429 --> 01:19:59.144
And so the moment we're empowered and we're directed in the right way based on what your body needs, not what my body or somebody else's body needs, based on your season of life, not my season of life or somebody else's season of life, based on your current circumstance, not my current circumstance or somebody else's current circumstance, based on your vision where you want to go, not my vision or somebody else's vision,
1196
01:20:00.365 --> 01:20:07.969
that's where we're able to build consistent habits with intentional rhythms and do it over time and you get the inevitable outcome that God's desired for you.
1197
01:20:10.790 --> 01:20:12.171
And that's all in your book.
1198
01:20:12.251 --> 01:20:13.712
And that's what holy health is all about.
1199
01:20:13.732 --> 01:20:14.552
That's the whole thing.
1200
01:20:14.732 --> 01:20:16.573
And that's what we get to do with people every single day.
1201
01:20:19.735 --> 01:20:21.916
You were told that you had until 35 years old.
1202
01:20:22.876 --> 01:20:23.757
What do you know now
1203
01:20:25.497 --> 01:20:41.018
that you'd tell that version of you that was sitting in the doctor's office listening to him say that heal the cell the body heals itself done simple heal the cell the body will heal itself but it requires you to live in alignment with how you were designed
1204
01:20:42.110 --> 01:20:42.590
It's amazing.
1205
01:20:42.950 --> 01:20:51.572
So what is the first step that somebody can do to put themselves on this journey, on this path to this abundance?
1206
01:20:51.832 --> 01:20:52.032
Yeah.
1207
01:20:52.072 --> 01:20:54.272
First thing is you got to start tracking HR.
1208
01:20:54.292 --> 01:20:55.112
Well, let me back up.
1209
01:20:55.712 --> 01:20:57.933
First thing is you got to know who you are.
1210
01:20:59.193 --> 01:21:00.093
It's an identity game.
1211
01:21:00.313 --> 01:21:04.774
Remember your habits, behaviors, and life rhythms are simply your identity made visible.
1212
01:21:05.574 --> 01:21:10.675
And the dysfunction you're finding in your health today, the dysfunction you're finding in your day-to-day life comes from a dysfunctional
1213
01:21:12.640 --> 01:21:13.761
You have to do the deep work.
1214
01:21:13.781 --> 01:21:15.382
You have to be willing to do that deep work.
1215
01:21:16.083 --> 01:21:17.244
And once you say, hey, you know what?
1216
01:21:17.304 --> 01:21:18.485
I'm in to do the deep work.
1217
01:21:18.745 --> 01:21:20.086
I want to start to excavate.
1218
01:21:20.186 --> 01:21:21.527
I want to start to heal my heart.
1219
01:21:21.608 --> 01:21:33.417
I want to start to get rid of one of those five or actually just forgive and move forward and be able to see, love the man that I once was, love the woman I once was, and know that this is just a shaping of who I'm supposed to become.
1220
01:21:33.437 --> 01:21:33.918
Yeah.
1221
01:21:34.238 --> 01:21:39.945
The moment you're willing to do that deep work is then what propels you into the next, which is to start track heart rate variability.
1222
01:21:40.406 --> 01:21:48.095
Because heart rate variability will be the key and the language to help you understand how your habits, behaviors are starting to operate within your whole life.
1223
01:21:48.836 --> 01:21:50.478
And are they misaligned or are they realigned?
1224
01:21:51.279 --> 01:21:56.020
And then once you do that, then you can start to go, hey, is it VO2 max that's low?
1225
01:21:56.140 --> 01:21:57.240
Is it my sleep quality that's low?
1226
01:21:57.300 --> 01:21:58.981
Or is it my cellular deficiencies that are high?
1227
01:21:59.521 --> 01:22:00.621
Where do I need to start to change?
1228
01:22:00.641 --> 01:22:01.922
Where do I start to get specific?
1229
01:22:02.342 --> 01:22:05.942
And so we always call it track, design.
1230
01:22:06.743 --> 01:22:08.503
And then once you design, you go and refine.
1231
01:22:09.123 --> 01:22:14.624
Because it would be crazy in business if all of a sudden I said to you, hey, we did our big executive meeting for the year.
1232
01:22:14.745 --> 01:22:15.425
This is the plan.
1233
01:22:15.685 --> 01:22:17.285
And then you went and ran that plan for 12 months.
1234
01:22:17.385 --> 01:22:19.126
Well, no, there's things that are going to change.
1235
01:22:19.146 --> 01:22:19.466
You're probably
1236
01:22:21.886 --> 01:22:22.667
two weeks from now.
1237
01:22:22.847 --> 01:22:29.730
It's giving you a direction that allows you to continue to refine it so that you have the key clarity of to where you're going.
1238
01:22:30.330 --> 01:22:46.478
And so until you do that, there's always going to be dysfunction because it would be like if you came to me, again, I love talking business terms because it's who we serve as businessmen, is you all of a sudden come in and you go, hey, I'm not going to do that.
1239
01:22:47.382 --> 01:22:48.543
my business is leaking money.
1240
01:22:49.203 --> 01:22:49.684
What do I do?
1241
01:22:49.704 --> 01:22:52.266
And I was like, you know what, Josh, here's a million bucks.
1242
01:22:53.506 --> 01:22:54.727
You're like, oh, okay, thanks, thanks.
1243
01:22:54.747 --> 01:22:55.668
That solves my problem.
1244
01:22:56.729 --> 01:23:01.072
And then eight months later, you come back to me and go, bro, I'm leaking money.
1245
01:23:01.772 --> 01:23:03.634
I'm like, hey, here's another million bucks.
1246
01:23:04.294 --> 01:23:10.157
Well, all we're doing is masking the actual issue, which is a underlying systems issue.
1247
01:23:10.777 --> 01:23:11.938
The same thing comes back here.
1248
01:23:11.978 --> 01:23:14.779
We try to put new habits into our lives.
1249
01:23:14.799 --> 01:23:16.120
We're like, I'm gonna cold plunge every day.
1250
01:23:16.140 --> 01:23:16.700
That's gonna help.
1251
01:23:16.760 --> 01:23:17.861
Or I'm gonna go get a trainer.
1252
01:23:17.881 --> 01:23:18.481
That's gonna help.
1253
01:23:18.521 --> 01:23:20.422
Or I'm gonna go have a set bedtime.
1254
01:23:20.442 --> 01:23:21.062
That's gonna help.
1255
01:23:21.963 --> 01:23:24.244
Well, no, all you're doing is putting new habits
1256
01:23:25.627 --> 01:23:30.051
on an old identity that will lead you back to the same place that you've already been.
1257
01:23:31.152 --> 01:23:32.032
It's just a matter of time.
1258
01:23:32.613 --> 01:23:47.685
And so until you shift your identity, who you believe you to be, you will never be able to put those new habits in that allow it to be sustainable so that you can do it over time to get the outcome that you desire, which is to have life and life abundantly, which is full of joy, full of love and full of peace.
1259
01:23:48.746 --> 01:23:51.947
And the last thing I'll say is once you're ready to do that, don't go at it alone.
1260
01:23:52.727 --> 01:23:54.308
You'd never go and build a business alone.
1261
01:23:54.888 --> 01:23:59.369
You'd never go and try to facilitate this massive overhaul and something else that you're wanting to do alone.
1262
01:23:59.929 --> 01:24:10.232
But I'll tell you, go with somebody you trust, go with somebody who knows what they're talking about, go with somebody that has a track record so that all of a sudden when they get there and they work with you, they can get you to where you're wanting to go.
1263
01:24:10.992 --> 01:24:15.934
And at the end of the day, you get to now go and have a bigger impact in whatever it is that you're called to do.
1264
01:24:19.087 --> 01:24:21.669
That probably landed for the person who's interested.
1265
01:24:23.010 --> 01:24:27.714
Now say it to the person who keeps saying, oh, I'll do it later.
1266
01:24:29.616 --> 01:24:33.679
I'm going to read something out of this because this is just freaking beautiful.
1267
01:24:34.419 --> 01:24:41.065
And this is chapter 10 in Holy Health.
1268
01:24:42.026 --> 01:24:42.306
And...
1269
01:24:44.420 --> 01:24:47.062
Chapter 10, it literally says, say it out loud, what does it say?
1270
01:24:47.542 --> 01:24:48.543
Your language matters.
1271
01:24:49.964 --> 01:24:50.784
Your language matters.
1272
01:24:52.105 --> 01:24:55.147
First off, you don't drift into excellence, you drift into mediocrity.
1273
01:24:56.813 --> 01:25:01.357
A lot of people have drifted into mediocrity if they're looking at themselves in the mirror and if they're really honest with themselves.
1274
01:25:02.217 --> 01:25:03.699
I'm not saying that you're overweight or obese.
1275
01:25:03.759 --> 01:25:10.224
I'm just saying you look at your life and the way that you function every day and you're like, man, I'm living dripping mediocrity.
1276
01:25:11.025 --> 01:25:12.286
I feel exhausted every day.
1277
01:25:12.386 --> 01:25:13.967
I'm not a great husband.
1278
01:25:14.027 --> 01:25:16.169
I don't feel like I'm an awesome father.
1279
01:25:17.010 --> 01:25:18.871
I'm really mediocre in a lot of areas of my life.
1280
01:25:20.412 --> 01:25:27.457
And what happened was a lot of people sat on something that I call the commitment bridge.
1281
01:25:29.458 --> 01:25:34.782
And there's four things that happen on the commitment bridge until you go from a false identity to a true identity.
1282
01:25:35.602 --> 01:25:38.624
And so it's language, and I'm just going to read these because it's literally verbatim.
1283
01:25:39.925 --> 01:25:46.689
There's language like, I'll try, I have to, I'll do it until, or I'll do it when.
1284
01:25:49.440 --> 01:25:54.483
The I'll try language is your first step forward, but it always propels you backwards.
1285
01:25:54.563 --> 01:25:56.044
And it says, I'll try to eat better.
1286
01:25:56.064 --> 01:25:56.965
I'll try to get to the gym.
1287
01:25:57.005 --> 01:25:58.106
I'll try to go to bed earlier.
1288
01:25:58.466 --> 01:26:00.287
But trying isn't transformation.
1289
01:26:00.947 --> 01:26:04.670
Trying is permission to quit when it gets uncomfortable or inconvenient.
1290
01:26:04.890 --> 01:26:09.733
Trying is commitment without trust in your process.
1291
01:26:10.133 --> 01:26:14.176
And God cannot bless an attempt that you never fully left your hands.
1292
01:26:15.737 --> 01:26:16.338
So I'll try.
1293
01:26:16.498 --> 01:26:17.358
I'll try to do the thing.
1294
01:26:17.778 --> 01:26:20.000
But really, it's just giving you permission to quit.
1295
01:26:20.720 --> 01:26:21.481
Then it's I have to.
1296
01:26:22.282 --> 01:26:23.963
Well, I guess I have to do this.
1297
01:26:25.023 --> 01:26:26.704
I know my wife's been telling me I have to do this.
1298
01:26:27.565 --> 01:26:35.771
Well, if that's what you're saying, is that my wife is telling me I have to do this, I have to is fueled by pressure, not by purpose.
1299
01:26:36.351 --> 01:26:37.412
Pressure, not conviction.
1300
01:26:38.392 --> 01:26:42.915
It treats health like a burden instead of stewardship that breeds resentment instead of freedom.
1301
01:26:43.376 --> 01:26:44.557
So you're going to do all the things...
1302
01:26:45.397 --> 01:26:47.078
but you're going to be resentful along the whole way.
1303
01:26:47.158 --> 01:26:51.741
And then once a certain time is over, you're like, well, I guess I did it and I didn't get the results.
1304
01:26:51.781 --> 01:26:53.602
So I'm out anyways.
1305
01:26:54.463 --> 01:26:56.004
No, freedom is what we're called to.
1306
01:26:56.464 --> 01:27:05.350
And so anything done from obligation will eventually be abandoned and it's not creating who you were actually called to be, which is why identity is the core that we have to root first.
1307
01:27:05.930 --> 01:27:06.991
Then there's I'll do it until.
1308
01:27:07.791 --> 01:27:09.612
I'll do it until life gets busy.
1309
01:27:09.652 --> 01:27:10.853
I'll do it until the holidays.
1310
01:27:10.873 --> 01:27:12.194
I'll do it until the month is over.
1311
01:27:12.214 --> 01:27:13.255
I'll do it until vacation.
1312
01:27:13.275 --> 01:27:14.595
I'll do it until I complete the race.
1313
01:27:14.615 --> 01:27:15.756
I'll do it until whatever.
1314
01:27:16.917 --> 01:27:21.820
But until contains the seed of quitting because you're already planning your exit.
1315
01:27:22.940 --> 01:27:25.302
And this is obedience with an expiration date.
1316
01:27:25.962 --> 01:27:27.483
It's like, yeah, you know what?
1317
01:27:27.583 --> 01:27:29.604
Once it's done, I'm not going back to that.
1318
01:27:30.025 --> 01:27:31.926
I'm going to go back to what I once was because it's comfortable.
1319
01:27:32.671 --> 01:27:36.515
And that's why you've gotten your life under wraps before.
1320
01:27:36.535 --> 01:27:39.138
You've felt really good before, but you've drifted back into that mediocrity.
1321
01:27:40.320 --> 01:27:44.524
Then there's what started this and triggered this for me, which was, I will do it when...
1322
01:27:46.456 --> 01:27:49.238
I'll do it when life slows down.
1323
01:27:49.998 --> 01:27:50.919
I just don't have time right now.
1324
01:27:51.700 --> 01:27:52.960
I'll do it when the kids are older.
1325
01:27:53.781 --> 01:27:55.022
I'll do it when work comes down.
1326
01:27:55.422 --> 01:27:56.863
I'll do it when the season's over.
1327
01:27:57.284 --> 01:27:58.604
I'll do it when the kids graduate.
1328
01:27:59.425 --> 01:28:06.090
But here's the funny thing, just like we said before, the when never comes because it's a moving goalpost.
1329
01:28:07.903 --> 01:28:11.466
I'll do it when is the language of staying exactly where you are today.
1330
01:28:11.867 --> 01:28:17.352
Because if we were really honest, you said you were going to do it when your kids were born.
1331
01:28:17.812 --> 01:28:19.113
And they were like, well, nah, you know what?
1332
01:28:19.133 --> 01:28:19.974
I'll do it when they're five.
1333
01:28:20.394 --> 01:28:21.135
Do it when they go to school.
1334
01:28:22.336 --> 01:28:23.117
Then you're like, no, you know what?
1335
01:28:23.177 --> 01:28:24.198
I'll do it when they graduate.
1336
01:28:24.818 --> 01:28:27.841
They're like, no, I'll do it when, you know what?
1337
01:28:27.961 --> 01:28:30.163
I'll do it when they graduate college.
1338
01:28:30.203 --> 01:28:30.504
You know what?
1339
01:28:30.544 --> 01:28:31.605
I'll do it when they're done college.
1340
01:28:33.282 --> 01:28:36.085
I'll do it when they move out of the house and go get married.
1341
01:28:36.846 --> 01:28:37.126
You know what?
1342
01:28:37.146 --> 01:28:39.368
I'll do it when they have kids.
1343
01:28:41.050 --> 01:28:42.632
All of a sudden, that's 40 years later, dog.
1344
01:28:45.594 --> 01:28:53.402
It's delayed obedience dressed up as wisdom, and it puts conditions on surrender and waits for circumstances to change instead of allowing God to change you.
1345
01:28:55.004 --> 01:28:55.905
But true commitment...
1346
01:28:57.022 --> 01:29:00.726
Everything I just said is commitment in disguise as compromise.
1347
01:29:01.747 --> 01:29:04.009
But true commitment says, I will do whatever it takes.
1348
01:29:06.051 --> 01:29:10.495
This is a covenant level, identity aligned, obsessive obedience to what it is you were called to do.
1349
01:29:10.535 --> 01:29:12.156
This is non-negotiable, full devotion.
1350
01:29:12.176 --> 01:29:14.358
Your values, your vision, and your voice are all in.
1351
01:29:14.719 --> 01:29:16.060
Whatever it takes to heal, I'm in.
1352
01:29:16.080 --> 01:29:18.082
Whatever it takes to show up for my calling, I'm committed.
1353
01:29:18.102 --> 01:29:21.105
Whatever it takes to lead my family in health, that's my standard.
1354
01:29:21.685 --> 01:29:24.387
This is the only commitment that can actually get you across the bridge.
1355
01:29:24.727 --> 01:29:26.848
And it says, I'll do whatever it takes to set my calendar.
1356
01:29:26.868 --> 01:29:28.589
I'll do whatever it takes to prepare my healthy food.
1357
01:29:28.609 --> 01:29:30.691
I'll do whatever it takes to live in pleasing way with God.
1358
01:29:30.991 --> 01:29:35.333
And I'll do whatever it takes to walk in alignment with somebody to help me get to the other side.
1359
01:29:35.874 --> 01:29:37.615
This is the only thing that holds transformation.
1360
01:29:37.695 --> 01:29:40.016
It removes the conditions, the timelines, and the excuses.
1361
01:29:40.416 --> 01:29:49.482
And it places God at the head, trust in his design, and values obedience over comfort, making sure that those he puts in your path are able to get you to where you are designed to go.
1362
01:29:54.533 --> 01:29:54.954
Beautiful.
1363
01:29:59.239 --> 01:30:02.342
What's the thing that people misperceive about you the most?
1364
01:30:03.063 --> 01:30:04.765
Misperceive about me the most?
1365
01:30:08.309 --> 01:30:10.392
Gosh, I've never been asked that question before.
1366
01:30:12.947 --> 01:30:13.928
Probably that this was easy.
1367
01:30:16.210 --> 01:30:23.355
I think that sometimes when you're walking just in what you've been called to do, you've been through a lot of hard things in your life.
1368
01:30:24.817 --> 01:30:26.938
You've been to the bottom of the barrel many times.
1369
01:30:28.380 --> 01:30:29.500
You've been at the end of your rope.
1370
01:30:30.902 --> 01:30:31.122
And...
1371
01:30:32.663 --> 01:30:36.165
Like I said at the beginning, I'm nothing.
1372
01:30:36.225 --> 01:30:38.267
Before I walked in the door, I see it every time.
1373
01:30:38.387 --> 01:30:39.948
It's literally above my office door.
1374
01:30:40.568 --> 01:30:41.008
Be nothing.
1375
01:30:42.189 --> 01:30:43.170
Said it before I walked in here.
1376
01:30:43.530 --> 01:30:44.170
Just be nothing.
1377
01:30:44.891 --> 01:30:45.291
Be nothing.
1378
01:30:45.371 --> 01:30:46.852
Just be willing to serve.
1379
01:30:46.932 --> 01:30:48.954
Be humble.
1380
01:30:50.895 --> 01:30:55.278
When you're truly able to do that, God can just work through you.
1381
01:30:55.838 --> 01:30:59.881
And so when people sometimes say, oh, this is so easy for you.
1382
01:31:00.501 --> 01:31:01.862
No, this is not easy for me.
1383
01:31:02.602 --> 01:31:04.243
I travel 120 days a year.
1384
01:31:05.204 --> 01:31:09.106
I am on airplanes and in hotels a third of the year.
1385
01:31:10.006 --> 01:31:11.787
Food is not readily available all the time.
1386
01:31:11.867 --> 01:31:15.309
I intentionally go to the grocery store as soon as I get to wherever I am.
1387
01:31:15.910 --> 01:31:23.114
I got a grocery bag that I travel with me if I've got to get on another plane from somewhere.
1388
01:31:23.794 --> 01:31:27.116
My team makes sure that they get me a hotel that has a gym and a sauna and
1389
01:31:27.716 --> 01:31:30.077
so that I can stay on track wherever I go.
1390
01:31:30.717 --> 01:31:45.380
I've got a rental car wherever I am, not an Uber to make sure that I can go and be in different places and get to podcasts like this and connect with people so that I don't just sit in my hotel room and do things that I know that I don't wanna do.
1391
01:31:45.800 --> 01:31:49.481
Like there's intentional things that are put in place.
1392
01:31:49.521 --> 01:31:52.422
This is not easy for me anymore than it is easy for you.
1393
01:31:53.727 --> 01:32:02.356
I've just made a decision that I want to live life abundantly and I want all that God has for me and I want him to increase my capacity so that I can just serve people at a greater level.
1394
01:32:03.317 --> 01:32:13.868
And that willingness to be nothing and that willingness to show up has ultimately just been the fruit that I walk in now and the peace and the freedom that I get and...
1395
01:32:15.029 --> 01:32:27.318
That is my desire of what I want everyone to experience because I will tell you there is nothing better than waking up with joy, with peace, and with freedom even on the worst day.
1396
01:32:30.740 --> 01:32:32.021
Thank you for what you do for people.
1397
01:32:32.261 --> 01:32:32.862
No, thank you.
1398
01:32:34.261 --> 01:32:35.642
Justin, where can people find you?
1399
01:32:35.763 --> 01:32:37.945
Where can they find your book?
1400
01:32:38.365 --> 01:32:38.926
Give us the plug.
1401
01:32:39.146 --> 01:32:46.613
Yeah, so holyhealthbook.com is where you can find that or any place that you buy books.
1402
01:32:46.713 --> 01:32:47.774
So that's Holy Health.
1403
01:32:48.015 --> 01:32:49.016
It comes out August 11th.
1404
01:32:49.056 --> 01:32:51.038
I'm sure this podcast is dropping after that.
1405
01:32:52.819 --> 01:32:57.004
And then myself, you can find at ownitcoaching.com.
1406
01:32:57.524 --> 01:32:58.805
That's where we exist.
1407
01:32:58.865 --> 01:33:04.290
If any of this stuff was interesting, you want to know more, that's where you can find it and on Instagram at Justin Roth.
1408
01:33:05.571 --> 01:33:06.732
Justin, thank you so much, man.
1409
01:33:06.773 --> 01:33:08.694
I truly appreciate you spending your time with me today.
1410
01:33:08.894 --> 01:33:09.615
That was awesome, Josh.
1411
01:33:09.635 --> 01:33:10.196
I appreciate you.
1412
01:33:10.696 --> 01:33:10.916
All right.
1413
01:33:11.177 --> 01:33:11.657
Till next time.