⚡ THE CMECP® PROGRAM IS EXPANDING. ⚡Certified Master Electricians

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Welcome to the Master of the NEC podcast, the ultimate
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destination for anyone passionate about the electrical trade. Whether you're
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a seasoned electrician, an eager apprentice, or just someone who
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wants to dive deep into the world of electrical work,
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you've come to the right place. Join your host, Paul Abernathy,
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a true authority in the industry with over 38 years
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of trade experience, as he electrifies your mind with in-depth discussions,
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expert tips, and valuable insights that will keep you ahead
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of the curve. Each episode, Paul will illuminate the complexities
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of the trade, decode the National Electrical Code, and share
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the latest industry trends, all while empowering you to take
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your electrical career to the next level. So, gear up,
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plug in, and get ready to supercharge your knowledge, because
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with the Master the NEC Podcast, the power is in
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your hands.
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Now get ready. Here is your host, Paul Abernathy. Hi! Home!
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What up, what up, what up, everybody?
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Welcome to another episode of Master the NEC Podcast, where
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we talk about all things electrically related. And I have
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some amazing frickin' news for you folks. So if you
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haven't listened to my podcast in a while, where the
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hell have you been? We have over a thousand episodes
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on all different topics when it comes to the National
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Electrical Code. Y'all know I love podcasting way more than
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I like doing videos, okay? Y'all know I like to
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get on the mic, run my mouth, and talk a
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little bit. So.
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We've got some exciting stuff, okay? I'm not lying.
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We got some exciting stuff coming down the pike here,
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and I'm interested in where it's going to go. And
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I think some of our members, our CMECPs, are going
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to like where it goes. And we're consolidating a lot
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of stuff, and it's a big decision. Y'all have heard
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me post about retiring. I need to clear the air
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on that a little bit because people have been asking
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about that. I need to Clear that a little bit
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because there's a slight bit of possible confusion.
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So I'm not retiring from the industry.
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I'm retiring from a certain facet of the industry where
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I do a lot of exam prep and I teach
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people the National Electrical Code. What I'm finding is that,
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you know what, I've been doing this for damn near
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40 years. And a lot of the, today, a lot
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of people are coming into the fold They're writing books,
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and they have probably not a lot of knowledge. But
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when you teach somebody how to do these things, and
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I have in my courses, and I've taught over 100,000 people, students,
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and all different from the corporate level down to the
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electrician and the apprentice. I've been doing this so long.
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I've done webinars. I was the first one to do
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continuing education in the state of Virginia. I helped get
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that started years ago. I've taught a lot of people.
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And so inevitably, you're going to have people that decide
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they say, well, hell, I can do that teaching thing.
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I'll teach people.
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OK, so they start teaching people the code or, you know,
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whether here and or there, whether or not they're a
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good educator or not, whether the information is accurate or
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not or whatever.
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I'm not going to I'm not going to be the
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the police force, if you will.
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Yeah, it's not my job to determine whether somebody is
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a damn good educator or just, uh, or not. Right. So,
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but many of you know that I am all about
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furthering the career of electricians. And I have been a
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consultant to so many electricians out there. People call me
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all the time, text me, uh, pick a phone. You know,
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I'm talking to anybody. Anybody knows I'll talk their damn
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ear off if they give me an opportunity. I love
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to I love to teach, but let's face it. There's
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two different categories here. There's the apprentice. There's the younger electrician.
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There's the people that moan and groan about spending money
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for courses. They want it all to be free. And
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so they go searching on the Internet, you know, and
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they'll say, you know, I don't mind paying, but they
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do mind paying for it. That's not to take away
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from the folks that do buy our programs and things
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like that. But I'm saying there's a large segment of
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people out there who just want shit for free.
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And there's a lot of education out there. People are
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doing it.
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And people can say, well, I'm doing it just to
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do it. But it takes money out of educators' hands.
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This is what we do for a living. So at
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the end of the day, it's like, I don't want
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to keep chasing. I've been doing that now for so
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many years. And I'm blessed that we have a lot
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of people in our programs that they went. And by
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the way, the programs aren't going away as far as
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if you're enrolled in them now, you can stay in them.
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But The concept of moving on to the.
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2026 has us thinking about the direction that we want
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to go and do. I want to put out a
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fast tracks version for exam prep. And a lot of it,
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and I told folks out there that I would be,
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you know, thinking about stepping back from that.
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And that's what I meant when I say retire. I'm
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going to step back.
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From that because we'll still can create courses. But these
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courses are going to be dedicated more towards our licensed
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professionals that are already licensed.
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You get what I'm saying?
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So that means that the journeymen, we're not leaving you
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hanging if you're preparing for a master's exam, but the
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difference is we change the concept of how we want
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to do here at Electrical Code Academy. Now, is that
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going to be a massive hit for us financially?
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Absolutely.
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We sell a lot of courses. So you take away
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the course fees because we're changing the structure. You know,
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people will say, why the hell would you do that? Well,
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the reason is I just do not want to compete
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with the folks out there in the world who go
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on TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, whatever, and want to teach, teach,
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teach because they feel like it should be free or
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they feel like they want to give back or they
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feel like they want to be an educator.
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We're a business.
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So as much as I love teaching people, it's still
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a business to me. So when people say to me, Paul,
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you love what you do and you're helping so many people,
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I'm like, I love it that I am helping people
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and I love that, but I'm also a business.
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We make money.
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And to be honest with you, that's my focus as
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a business. And I'm transparent as hell with that. Yes,
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I love that people learn, but at the end of
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the day, we're a business and And in the past,
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we've had partnerships to be able to offer courses through
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partnerships like Cengage and other different stuff.
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And, you know, part of me wants to get back
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to that aspect of it. So here's the deal.
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For people that are wondering out there what I'm even
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rambling on about. So many of you out there are
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probably familiar with the CMECP program. Still uncontested leader when
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it comes to master electricians furthering their education. NFPA doesn't
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have anything for it. They have it for electrical safety
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and other things. If they were to do something based
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on the NEC, they'd be simply copying our model because
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we've been around for 10 years, coming up on 10 years.
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So there's a reason they haven't done it. So in
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our case, the CMECP is a select group of.
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Professionals that are willing to go through the process.
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Now, when that started quite a few years ago, It
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was a full year, then it dropped down to six-month program,
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and then it dropped down to a four-month program. Now,
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we have current candidates that are in the four-month program
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right now.
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They can stay in it. They're working through it.
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We just had our recent graduate graduate. who just became
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our latest C-M-E-C-P. So that's always exciting when we get
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people that go through the program. But at the end
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of the day, it's like always... and encouraging to have
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people through our program. And in the latest CMECP, here's
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a funny thing. He's not even in the US. He's
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obviously American citizen, but he's working abroad and he did
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this abroad. So shout out to Adam Velez.
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And I probably will say that wrong.
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Okay.
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But, you know, Alex Velez, congratulations. He is, all right,
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enough of that. He is our latest CMECP.
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Um, his report was, uh, he did an essay that
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we submitted to the CME CP body and they come
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back with a thumbs up and he got all thumbs up.
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Uh, he had a couple that were on the border.
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Um, but you know, grammar grammatical wise, you know, we,
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you know, but at the end of the day, that's
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not what it's about.
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We're not teaching, you know, we're not training English professors.
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Okay. So he did a great job during the program,
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the proctored exam, he did great. And he did have
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to redo two units and you get two attempts at
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it and he nailed them on the second one. So
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he's a testament to what we're looking for, that kind
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of dedication. So the process of being a CMECP is
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And the people that say that, you know, it's Paul
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Abernathy's money grab or his corporation's money grab, you know,
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you're the biggest freaking fool out there.
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If that's what you think, you're an idiot. You're stupid.
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Because if that was the case, ask any CMECP if
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we've ever charged them a renewal fee. Now, under the
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new structure, we will. But have we ever in 10 years?
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Absolutely not. It was never about, we turn away more
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people than we accept into the programs And a lot
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of people flunk out of it, not.
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Because it's hard. It's just, it's code.
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But the reason that they flunk out is because we
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demand dedication to that four-month process. And sadly, for the
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vast majority of people, life gets in the way. And
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when life gets in the way, it causes them to
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fall behind. And we don't have any grace in this.
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Because we're giving you four months, we're very strict.
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If there's 17 units....
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And you get to 16 and you run out of
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time and you are almost done, you're out.
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You're done. If you say, well, I'm not going to
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get into that and risk my money. Well, then you
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know what?
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You don't need to take a gamble at anything because
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anything worth gambling on is worth earning.
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Right? So when I say gambling, you know what I mean.
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But the fact of the matter is it's hard because
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you have to manage your time. Very, very much about
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time management. in order to get through the CMECP program.
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But it's not brain surgery.
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It's the code.
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In fact, the vast majority of the people that go
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through our Fast Tracks program that are masters could easily
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make it through our CMECP program because it's a basic
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fundamental type of training. The only difference is we raise
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the bar when it comes to acceptance on exams, proctored exams,
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and your final essay. That's the difference. Because, you know,
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if you're a master electrician, you already have a good
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foundation of code. You passed an exam, entry level. You've
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done pretty good. So all we're doing is reaffirming that
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information and then testing you on it. That's it.
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We're not reinventing the wheel.
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But I will say over the 10 years of that
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CMECP program, it has been lax. And I'll tell you
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right now, CMECPs that are out there, I have to
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apologize because we have not offered you near the benefits
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that we could.
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We have not offered. I mean, yeah, we have the
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lapel pins.
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Yeah, we have.
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We have not offered you the benefits that we could
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offer you in this program. And I apologize for that.
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And one of the biggest reasons for that is because
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I have never, ever dedicated the time to it as
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an acting executive director. Well, that ends because we're going
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to be moving our a hundred percent of our core
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effort to the CME CP program. Now what's interesting about
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this is that most of, you know, we have certified
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thermal electrician program out there.
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We have the, obviously the CME CP program. Um, Many
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of you.
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Remember SIA, which is the Certified Energy Consultant. We're bringing
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back that type of training and rolling it in as
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a career path through the CMECP program. And the CMECP
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can add those on as additional certifications if they want.
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We're giving them that opportunity. We're even creating our own
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trade hog, but it's designed for CMECP. So it's going
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to be a little bit more jacked up when it
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comes to for CMECPs and how they use it and
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give that and include that with the CMECP program.
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We're just going to include that with them.
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Which is expensive, by the way, because we have to
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pay for our token models. And when we combine Grok
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and ChadGTP and then we upload our own stuff, we
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still have to pay these tokens. And it's thousands of
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dollars a month for these tokens to be able to
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give this service to somebody.
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So when you get it for $ 9. 95 or $ 19.
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95 or whatever, that's just a fraction of what we
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have to pay collectively. And that's not going away. We
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want to keep those programs. But what we're doing is
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we're creating this overarching CMECP program underneath the Electrical Code Academy.
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And this CMECP program is dedicated primarily to enhancement and
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the betterment of master electricians. Now, We're going to be
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offering benefits to that. We're going to be offering things
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that we have never offered before. You're going to see
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a dramatic change in the program. But one of the
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biggest changes is the tier path to becoming a CMECP.
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So it was really something that I have thought about
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for a while now, and that is CMECP from a
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company level and CMECP from a technician or electrician level.
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So what I'm saying is that a company can get
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in through the company level, and the owner has to
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be a master electrician in at least two years in business.
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Okay?
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I think it's two years. I have to get with Jeff.
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I think it's two years or one year. Maybe one
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year in business. Oh, I think it's one year.
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They have to be at least in one year of
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an actual business. Okay? Business license, whatever, in business.
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Okay?
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And then they can get the CME.
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Now, if they have technicians under them, then they will
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get keys that will allow them to be able to
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add their employees into the program. So they'll be able
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to come into the program, and that way he can
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get all of their technicians or all their electricians can
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become CME CPs. Now, you might say, well, this is
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confusing because what if the technicians are not master's? Well,
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they don't have to be because they can get into
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the program just to help unify how they do things,
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help bring extra knowledge. But if they're journeymen, then they
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come in and they can get under our journeyman program.
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So many of you have seen that, what I've talked about.
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The journeyman program is really no different than the master program,
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except for the journeymen get 12 months to complete the program.
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And the effort.
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of the journeyman program is to create master electricians. So
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there's so many companies out there, right? They want to
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market them there, you know, as a, uh, uh, CMCP
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as a company, but then have all of their individual
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electricians or technicians that work under the company also certified.
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So we're going to be dealing with sales training. We're
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going to be having, um, Various meetings, okay, where we
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will have like the members all come together in like
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once a month as a meeting, a Zoom, and be
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able to do interact and ask questions and help learn
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from each other. We'll be creating marketing and stuff to
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help them. But a lot of these businesses are already
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immensely successful, right? They just need that edge, that little
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extra edge, and that's what we're going to do with
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this CMECP program.
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So it's going to be a two-tiered program.
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So if you own the company, then you can become
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a CMECP, and your company can then offer training to
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your employees under the CMECP program for their technicians. If
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they're masters, then they can get the regular program. If
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they're journeymen, then they can get the one-year program. But
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that's the path that we're going to have. And it'll
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be laid out eventually here on our website pretty clean
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so that you understand the various paths. But that's a
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choice because you also can still go the normal individual
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CMECP certified technician, certified master electrical co-professional. You can go
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that route the same way you always could. But we
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wanted to open up the ability for companies to to
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have the company become a preferred CMECP provider.
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Uh, so anyway, there's, there's.
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A lot of nuances to it, but, but we're going
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to offer the ability for the, for the CMECP to
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go down to various tracks, whether they want to, uh,
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become more proficient in thermography, if they want to go
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down the path of, um, the, um, Use the trade
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hog that's going to be dedicated just for them. They
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can use that in the field to solve issues and questions.
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And they can do that if they want to go
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down the path of we're going to be adding. Hopefully,
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it looks like we're going to be adding our own
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exterior accent lighting program and training. You've heard of it
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like Jellyfish and True Lights and Gemstone and Celebrite and
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different things like that. Well, we were offering a training
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program dedicated kind of through that type of thing.
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So there's a bunch. And again, energy monitoring. You would
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be surprised.
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On Nextdoor, just in my area, how many people griping
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about their energy bills and they don't know why their
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house is only 2,000 square foot and their bill is $ 500.
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And I have a house and mine's only like $ 200
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and they're whining and moaning. I'm like, do you know
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what's actually running in your house? Do you know whether
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or not you have an air conditioning unit that maybe
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is on the fringe of being low in Freon and
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all it's doing is cycling all day, all month? And
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you don't know any better because you're right there at
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the fringe where it feels cool. You think it's working,
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but it's cycling on. And you don't even know it.
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And that is eating up your electric bill. Or maybe
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you have something that's running constantly that you don't even
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know about it. A sump pump or whatever that you
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have no idea. And this app would be able to
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tell you. You'd be able to see it.
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So we try.
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You how to to sell those type of things and
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and to be honest with you our goal is to
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put you directly with the products manufacturers.
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We don't want to resell you i don't.
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Want to make any money off these products but we
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want to train you on how to sell them how
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to market them how to use them how to train
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your staff with them.
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That's our goal.
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Because at the end of the day, we're not trying
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to get rich off of a CMECP program. They're no
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different than we were trying to do that when we
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never charged renewals for CMECPs. We just want to give
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various paths that CMECPs, master electricians can take and further their,
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further their career. That's what we want and how they
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can stand out amongst the crowd. When you've got two
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electricians in a room, what differentiates them when you haven't
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even seen the work they do? You don't know anything
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about the work they do. What differentiates them is what
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certifications they have. That's the difference between licensure and certification, folks.
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Licensure is the threshold of what you have to have
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to do the work. Certification is letting people know how
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you have taken it to the next level and how
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you should stand out amongst the crowd. That's the difference.
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So that's the kind of things that we want to
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focus on. That's the kind of training that we want
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to get involved in and really elaborate on it and
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try to really enhance it for the electrician, master electrician.
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So some people have asked me, they say, Paul, when
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you say master electricians, and of course we understand the
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journeyman program, you know, you just have to be a journeyman.
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The equivalency is what I get a question a lot
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from people. What the hell does equivalency mean? Well, it's
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pretty straightforward. If you live in a state that doesn't
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have master licenses, but you can go from a journeyman
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to a contractor, then that's equivalent.
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Do you get what I'm saying? If they don't have
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a master program, there you go. That's equivalent.
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So say you want your company to be, you know,
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because you could go as yourself and become a CMECP.
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But you can also go the same path and get
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your company to become preferred CMECP. And so that's different
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how you hold out your company versus you individually.
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And it's all, again, it's choice of what you want, right?
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If you get one, if you get the company one,
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and you're the main master electrician, then you're CMECP, but
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your company also does that. And then that gives you
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the ability to offer discounted programs to your employees. Or,
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to be honest with you, I think the model is actually,
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and I haven't, Jeff has got it, I think the
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model is actually, it's included up to four employees can
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be under your package. And it's including you, so you're
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the fifth one. So I think that it's going to
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include all of those paths that you could go down.
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Whether you want to do thermography, whether you want to
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do the energy monitoring and how you can sell that
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and how you would use that to sell. And of
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course the permanent exterior lighting, which you could do anyway
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if you want to go out and get a dealership
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or whatever.
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Nobody's stopping you.
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But We want to show you not so much how
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to install it all together because it's not brain surgery
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to do it. You're an electrician. You know how to
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do it. The module, the controller simply just plugs into
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a receptacle. So you get it, whether it's interior or exterior.
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You understand how to do it. So it's not brain surgery.
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But many people don't know how to sell it, how
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to market it, how to promote it, how you would
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door hang, how you would create this. And we're going
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to create this stuff for you It makes it a
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little easier for you to be able to market it.
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So in-house, we're going to do a lot of creation,
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a lot of development, a lot of design, and that
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type of thing. So anyway, that's kind of what we
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have going on. And that's what's working on in the background.
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And when you heard me do a video, I think
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it was on TikTok, about retirement, it wasn't so much
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that I want to retire from what I do. It's
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that I think I'm retiring from trying to appeal to
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younger apprentices, non-licensed people, because I really, at the end
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of the day, anybody can, you know, I don't know
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how good they are. OK, let me just qualify that
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by saying that I can't say because I get a
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lot of people that come to me after they fail.
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I'm just saying they're a dime a dozen.
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And it's nearly impossible for a company like me to
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compete against people that are giving stuff away for free. Now,
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the reason that, you know, somebody says, well, Mike does it.
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Well, no, Mike doesn't.
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Mike sells his stuff through apprentice programs, training programs, you know,
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that type of thing. So that's where the vast majority
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of that probably comes from. Not us, because we don't advertise.
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I'm not going out anymore hunting for electricians to buy
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our Fast Tracks program. If it's up there and they
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buy it, it's great. We'll support it. But my focus
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is gearing towards what it should have been. Some parts
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of me should have been really giving back to the
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CMECP program because if you think about the effort that
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went through to get these trademarks, and we have two
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of them, the CMECP is a trademark and the Frey's.
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Certified Master Electrical Co-Professional. That's trademarked as well. So if
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you think about the process or the program in itself,
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how you go through that, and in the process of
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renewing it and keeping it and yada, yada, yada, I
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pissed away 10 years of really developing that program where
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I thought it should be.
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And it's still a great program.
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And it really has put out there some really good
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electrical professionals.
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Right, that are top-notch.
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But it could be so much more, and I need
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to focus my time on that. That's where I really
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need to be. Also, it allows us to do more
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potential partnerships with larger companies to bring them training and
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be a part of a certified network of professionals that
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rather than just the random trying to sell courses to
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apprentices and things like that, or journeymen, that type of thing.
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Now, like I said, if you're a journeyman and you
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get into the.
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Program, the goal is that why would you do that
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unless your goal is to you want to ultimately be
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a master electrician? Because our program will help you become
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a master electrician. It will help you pass an exam, okay? Now,
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the goal is in a year, Not only have you
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passed the master's exam, but now you've already jumped to
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the end of the process when it comes to being
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a CMECP, all at the same time, in tandem, as
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you were doing them, I guess, parallel, I guess. And
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all you have to do at the end is the
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proctored exam and the essay, currently. So that's the benefit
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of the program. You're going to get everything that you
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would have gotten as a FastTracks program in But it's
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also with the added incentive that you really do want
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to become a master electrician, despite what anybody says. If
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you have an owner that says, well, you don't need it,
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either they feel threatened, that's not up to them. You
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want to further your knowledge. That's why people get in
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our programs, right? So it doesn't matter what they think.
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It's what you do. So you continue to strive for
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that perfection. And that's what the CMECP program is all about.
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That's what it was designed for. And I'm the first
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one to apologize to our CMECPs out there.
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And we have some great guys. They really are.
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We don't have any women yet. There's no women in
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the program. They're all guys waiting for the next woman
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to come through.
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Well, we had two women.
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Through the years, but they ended up not making it.
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They were back when it was the six-month program. So
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they had six months and they still couldn't make it.
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One of them ran out of time and the other
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one failed a unit twice. And after two times, you're out.
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And they didn't get back in it. I don't know
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if they were intimidated or whatnot.
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I don't know.
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But they knew the rules up front. Everybody knows the
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rules up front, right? And I don't tell you this
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to intimidate you. If you're into the profession and you
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love what you do and you're an electrician, just like
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I tell you doctors go on to be specialists, if
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you're an electrician, you should be constantly striving to get
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more knowledge. And I can promise you our program will
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get you more knowledge. I promise you that. But you'll
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also be able to use it for marketing, promotion, advancement.
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You'll be able to use it in all sorts of ways.
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And you will stand out amongst the crowd. And as
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we build this thing out and we start getting partnerships,
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then what you're going to see is we're going to
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offer so much more. Like individual training for our CMECPs
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on things like wire and cable. Yeah, you heard me. Yes,
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00:29:34.849 --> 00:29:38.069
just what you've been probably thinking. Hey, who else does
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00:29:38.130 --> 00:29:41.200
Paul work for? Is it possible that he could teach
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us everything we need to know about MC cable, AC cable, raceways?
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Yes.
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So that's where I want to spend my time. I
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00:29:52.190 --> 00:29:56.390
want to bring this knowledge base that is so beyond
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what anybody else could bring. That's what I want to do. Now,
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some people have been asking about the Fast Trax tube.
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That is not going away. Fast Trax tube is here
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to stay. That's a video platform that does very well.
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We keep that staying over there. That's our alternative. And
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there's no reason we get rid of that because that's
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where we want to.
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Put our videos.
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So I don't want to put them on YouTube. Because again,
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we're not no longer giving away anything for free.
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You can do that.
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There's a plethora of other people online that want to
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give away free training. They are the people, if you
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don't want to pay for a course, if you don't
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care about the Fast Tracks program, or I mean, you
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don't care about the CMECP program, go and get the
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free stuff.
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We don't want you.
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We wish you the best of luck, but don't go
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calling me when you can't understand something and you come
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crying to me.
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Paul, I need you to teach me how to do
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this calculation.
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I don't want to hear that shit. I'm tired of it.
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I've been doing this for too many damn years. Well, Paul,
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you're a sellout. All you care about is the money.
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You fucking right that is.
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True.
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That is 100% true. I have no desire anymore to
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give it away. Let other people do that.
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I'm not interested.
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Okay?
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So anyway.
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If I offended you by that language, I'm sorry. You're
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probably not somebody we want in a program anyway, so
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move your ass on. So anyway, we're training. We're going
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to train better electricians. That's what we're going to do.
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We're going to train better electricians. We're going to give
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them the tools and the resources. And wherever I can
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find discounts, I'm going to try to get them discounts
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on things like thermal cameras and anything that they can
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add to their business model. Because you know what? The
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00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:36.519
more add-on services that you can add to your business...
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is going to make more money. And that's what it's
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all about. People say, well, money's not everything.
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You're full of crap. Money is everything. Everything. Well, money
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00:31:48.109 --> 00:31:51.190
can't buy happiness. Look, if you're miserable before you had money,
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00:31:51.490 --> 00:31:53.609
you're going to be miserable after you have money. But
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00:31:53.630 --> 00:31:59.230
you know what? Having money and being successful really does
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00:31:59.829 --> 00:32:02.869
make life better. If you say, well, it doesn't. I
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00:32:02.890 --> 00:32:04.650
made a lot of money and I was miserable. That's
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00:32:04.690 --> 00:32:07.230
because you were freaking miserable before you got the money.
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I can't fix that.
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00:32:10.789 --> 00:32:12.609
But I can tell you right now, my life has
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always been so much better when I had money than
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it did when I did not have money. So I
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00:32:20.170 --> 00:32:21.950
want to see your business grow. I want to see
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you as an electrician grow. I want to weed out
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these people who post the shit online because I can
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tell you right now, if we ever get a CMECP,
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that posts shit on social media that is wrong or misleading,
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they are out of the program because we're going to
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have a new ethics program.
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Okay?
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There's already been one person who's been kicked out of
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the CMECP program.
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And y'all know who it is. And he got kicked
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out of that program because of ethics.
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Okay?
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Selling illegal or counterfeit code books. That is not cool
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for us. and then acting like a dick afterwards.
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Right?
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So at the end of the day, there's a reason
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that we do what we do. And, uh, so if
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you're interested in it, check out our website, cmcp.org. Uh,
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00:33:16.329 --> 00:33:19.380
you're going to see it change here soon. Um, we're
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not going to make it too dramatic.
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00:33:20.420 --> 00:33:21.359
Okay.
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Cause people are used to the, what the site looks
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00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:26.099
like and yada, yada, yada, but you're going to see
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some changes and we're, we're excited about it.
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We're going to, we're going to, uh, introduce a bunch of.
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Things and, uh, you know, and, and one of the
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things that we are introducing is whether or not we
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go back to third party course material rather than our
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own material. And the reason for that is we did
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it years ago with the CME CP program was because
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we wanted to be totally neutral on the material. And
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00:33:56.920 --> 00:33:59.480
just try to take your game to the next level
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and be totally neutral. And it worked out. I thought
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00:34:03.309 --> 00:34:09.389
it was pretty good. So we may introduce that back again.
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00:34:09.630 --> 00:34:12.269
This is fluid. I have a meeting with Jeff. We're
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going to get together. I have a couple of the
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00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:18.800
CMECPs that I want to have join me in the
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conversation and get their feelings on it.
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Some that have been around a while.
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And we're going to make these changes, but I can
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00:34:25.429 --> 00:34:27.269
tell you right now, you're going to see a major
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00:34:27.449 --> 00:34:30.389
focus shift. And if you want to get in now,
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00:34:31.190 --> 00:34:34.349
you better get in now. Because I guarantee you when
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this blows up, the prices will go up. Because you
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00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:42.440
know what? You're going to have marketing edge over the competition.
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Absolutely.
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So.
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All right, folks, that's it.
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I just want to give you a quick update on
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what's going on and let you in on the loop.
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00:34:51.570 --> 00:34:54.090
So I'm not going off to pasture to eat my cud.
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00:34:54.530 --> 00:34:58.090
I'm actually just shifting the focus for the company and
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00:34:58.230 --> 00:35:03.179
dedicating and finally giving some love to these CMECPs.
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Until next time, folks, stay safe. God bless. We'll catch
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you on the next episode of Master the NEC Podcast.
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Thanks for tuning in to another electrifying episode of the
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Master the NEC Podcast. We hope you're feeling more powered
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electrical trade, knowledge is power, and we're here to make
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