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00:04.009Welcome to this edition of Psychology Explained by Dr.
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00:07.519Curtis Peterson, who is trying to bring psychology
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00:11.129alive for us all. All right,
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00:14.977when we start looking at the different layers we need to take
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00:19.050into account when individuals
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00:23.750come in contact with different systems that
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00:27.644can help them slow their use.
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00:31.380Again, we're talking about people who are at
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00:34.812that point that if it goes on much longer,
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00:40.633it will kind of go over into the disorder category
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00:43.680and become a full substance abuse addiction.
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00:47.898Okay. And so when we look at many of these places,
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00:51.202we often can look at it in the healthcare setting, the school
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00:54.813setting, I can't remember who
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01:00.229mentioned even the work setting. So what
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01:04.320is kind of some of the necessary things that could be put in
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01:10.063place in order to make
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01:16.361it so individuals are more comfortable and more self-efficacious,
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01:19.641have that self-efficacy that they can change? Okay.
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01:24.590And of course, we can look at this from a
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01:28.383systems approach. I think any of my students
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01:32.657in here that are my social work
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01:36.597crew, this kind of thing looks pretty
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01:41.593familiar. So we can look at things like immediate
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01:47.863encounters. So that's a patient at the clinic or a clinician And
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01:51.892things such as language, language tone, privacy time,
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01:56.258all of those things at that immediate contact level
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01:59.709matter. But if we just stop there,
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02:04.845we miss a larger picture such as who are the care
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02:09.243team when we encounter someone who may have substance
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02:13.144use issues? What community partners or who do I have in
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02:17.339my organization that can help respond
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02:21.388or deliver services. So when
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02:24.220we talk about this, we talk about the physician,
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02:28.581psychologists, social workers, pharmacists, and peers.
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02:33.249Now, there's not very many, if you think
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02:36.219of the primary care doctor place,
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02:40.577there's not very many organizations that have
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02:47.193all of these in one place. I think here in Tucson,
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02:49.337I can think of the El Rio system,
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02:55.301but beyond that, maybe the Banner system,
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03:01.620but not many clinics really have this full
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03:07.283second circle. So, it's about creating community partners.
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03:11.881The organization itself, its scheduling rules,
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03:14.689staffing, billing, electronic records,
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03:18.941making them easily understandable and easily accessible.
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03:24.076On the community level, if we're looking at community level at the prevention
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03:29.772end, it's just not putting flyers on posts or PSAs
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03:33.061on TV. We have to look closely at the
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03:35.709ability for transportation and mobility.
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03:41.958When treatment access and treatment capacity for
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03:45.332those individuals who really need more
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03:49.123intense intervention at the beginning phases of addiction.
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03:53.541We also have to look at local norms. I mean, what is
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03:55.871the attitude towards substance use?
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04:01.381And then recovery support systems that
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04:04.883really are there at the community level
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04:07.959and accessible at the community level.
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04:13.574And then beyond that, we have then the policy environment
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04:17.311where a lot of our public health individuals really look. So this
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04:20.458is consent rules, insurance coverage,
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04:25.712prescribing regulations, all of those things that can
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04:30.999then come down to the immediate level and
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04:35.150assist the clinician in the center with
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04:38.667being able to secure things like privacy.
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04:42.850Okay, and then at the last level,
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04:46.353and many of you kind of have
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04:51.794alluded to this, is the life course context,
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04:55.597is the developmental stage and age that they're
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04:59.711at, their identity, culture, and prior institutional
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05:03.439experience are all very important.
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05:12.090And we have, we have talked about this, that most prevention programs
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05:16.518occur at the child and adolescent level.
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05:25.071At the child and adolescent level, maybe some in the
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05:29.228young adulthood or emerging adulthood, But there
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05:33.662seems to be a large need or a lack
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05:37.627of when we get into adulthood and even later
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05:41.805adulthood, where we actually are seeing
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05:44.866higher and higher rates of substance use,
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05:48.547substance abuse, and substance disorder.
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05:52.721So while it's, it's good that we
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05:57.360have these things for the youth, We're not actually focusing
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06:00.735on the high-need population within
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06:04.707our culture. And what does that look like?
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06:08.242It's not the same to deliver a program
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06:11.985to an adolescent than it is to a 50-year-old, for example.
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06:17.623And as this kind of says, healthcare has reached
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06:20.494legitimacy and clinical capacity,
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06:24.958but contact alone is not prevention. A question asked,
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06:29.020Without privacy produces silence. Okay.
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06:36.109So I do want to talk a little bit about health psychology design
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06:39.596intervention across healthcare systems. Um,
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06:43.635I actually teach health psychology once in a while
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06:47.313for, for another university, and it is really
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06:50.715about looking at, um,
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06:56.687healthcare and treatment
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07:00.715and all of those and prevention from a
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07:05.465psychological perspective. And it
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07:09.411gives a helpful framework
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07:13.873when we're looking at what should we do with all these
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07:17.745systems and whatnot. So, in the next module,
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07:20.277we're going to look at research and policy.
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07:26.277So, we're gonna look at how do we develop a program that
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07:30.269then we can say works, not based on the number
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07:34.277of participants who show up, but based upon
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07:38.173the efficacy of whatever program or
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07:40.802system change we put in place.
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07:44.217Okay, and it does
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07:48.626policy analysis, and what it tries to do is address structural
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07:53.115barriers to access. Okay, on the community,
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07:58.324this is partnerships with schools, pharmacies, and recovery organizations
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08:02.957to make care responsible— responsive to
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08:06.451local conditions. So this is saying, what are the
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08:10.619systems in the community? Are they communicating together?
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08:14.514And how is
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08:17.928it kind of on that kind of cultural level, How,
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08:21.678what are the attitudes behind individuals who
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08:25.653use substances? And if necessary,
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08:29.804what are some ways that those attitudes and beliefs can be
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08:32.111changed or influenced?
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08:37.015And then on the organizational level, this is of course looking at
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08:40.253workflow, referral pathways, measurements,
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08:44.964staff training to make sure that it turns isolated
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08:48.751practice into a reliable routine method
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08:52.368of care. Again, one of the things that we've talked,
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08:56.727I think we've talked about in this class is predictability
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09:01.450is really important, especially when individuals who
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09:05.110have substance use issues
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09:09.998live in a constant chaotic or
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09:18.344environmentally deprived situation,
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09:22.532may have other issues, legal issues or
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09:28.196relationship issues. And one
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09:31.714thing that can help bring them closer to
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09:35.646where they want to be is having somewhere they
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09:39.095can go that is predictable and it's consistent,
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09:43.615that the level of care is always there every time
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09:47.192the individual walks through the
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09:51.367door, okay? Then the next level that
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09:55.108is looked at in this field is what are known as clinical teams.
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09:59.235This is consultation, shared formulations,
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10:02.976communication, coaching, stigma reduction,
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10:07.215and this is really to prevent contradictory or
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10:11.052shaming messages. So, this is where
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10:17.055the medical prevention— medical professional
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10:21.116conveys what they do, how they conceptualize
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10:24.888it. The treatment teams come in and say, this is
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10:28.035what we look for, this is how we assess and treat.
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10:32.112And then the preventionists are there saying, this is the
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10:35.836way we should formulate this together to create a
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10:39.127consistent message across the different
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10:42.145systems, okay? And then
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10:46.272the patient and the family, this is where we do, where they
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10:50.013do brief assessments, motivational conversations,
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10:54.509coping, sleep pain skills, collaborative safety planning.
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10:59.454And really what we're trying to do at this level again is to reduce
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11:03.694immediate risk and strengthen self-regulation. Okay,
11:04.577 -->
11:08.064and so we'll go through each of these and kind
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11:11.792of dismantle them. The video mentioned at
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11:16.387this patient level that brief intervention technique,
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11:19.825which we will look at, that really is trying to
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11:23.135really kind of get to what are the core things that the
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11:26.959person needs to have in place to then
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11:29.225start that healing process.
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11:38.215So, what we're trying to do, the video mentioned
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11:42.589the biopsychosocial model and then the ecological identity
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11:45.970model. And I'll express
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11:50.329this just like the video did. The biopsychosocial is kind of
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11:54.527the gold standard in the field of counseling,
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11:57.789psychology, the medical field,
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12:03.834within areas of social work, within areas
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12:06.249of addiction treatment.
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12:12.676And if you can kind of guess, it kind of maps
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12:17.727the biological, psychological, and social influences that
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12:22.017are contributing to either a person's diabetes
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12:24.048or a person's addictions.
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12:30.822Okay. And it does a— and, you know, if we do go through
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12:34.731these processes and look at the person more of this holistic way,
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12:38.310it has very specific value.
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12:43.201However, the thing that the biopsychosocial
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12:47.761model kind of stops at is locating
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12:51.607those influences within a nested ecological
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12:57.044system and developmental timeline. What's meant by that is
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13:00.910we can understand the social influences on the individual,
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13:03.379the psychological and the biological,
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13:07.870but if we don't know what the person is experiencing
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13:11.399when they're at the clinic versus
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13:14.750when they're at home versus when they're at school,
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13:19.819we can be missing a whole bundle of information
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13:25.101where that the biopsychosocial model may not
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13:29.388capture. Um, and the basic
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13:34.606idea behind this is, is that we behave differently based
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13:38.123on the ecological condition we're in, or the environment,
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13:41.832situation, place, and whatnot. And, you know,
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13:46.171to put this simply, I'm assuming I'm
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13:50.237assuming I can't see you because this is Zoom. I'm not
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13:54.449on campus today, so I can't see my 2 on-campus students.
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14:00.264But I'm assuming that if I was watching you take this class,
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14:05.070you're acting much different than if you were at
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14:06.311a party somewhere.
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14:13.564Um, I wish this class was a party. But the point
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14:17.701being is we act differently and we can express different things,
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14:21.790but it's dependent upon the situation, place,
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14:24.452location, people around us.
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14:29.215And so in the, in the case of Roger,
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14:33.224for example, you know, we could identify his social
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14:37.040influences, right, between his family, school,
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14:41.321and peers. His psychological
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14:44.669influences, his anxiety and not being able to sleep,
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14:48.487and his biological issues,
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14:52.154the need to use that substance to
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14:54.334manage his symptomology.
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15:00.058And so even he sees that, yes, based on
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15:02.616that, I need help. Okay.
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15:08.400But him willing and able to seek
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15:12.677that help and be open for that help really
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15:15.962depends on the situation that he is in.
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15:20.367Okay, and that's the EIM extension.
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15:25.879So this goes to how does the person understand the situation?
15:26.567 -->
15:29.499This examines things like cognitions, emotions,
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15:32.880and behaviors. And then we need
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15:37.173to include examining how their identity is being appraised,
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15:42.157The threat of losing belonging,
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15:45.778or in the issues that centered around
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15:50.522rejection. Do they feel safe? And do they feel this
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15:54.432is a credible situation? And when I say credible,
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15:57.556we usually go to the doctor, right? And we say, okay,
15:57.572 -->
16:00.681the doctor is the expert. He has, he or
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16:04.672she or them have credibility
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16:08.471because they've gone through medical school, they've practiced
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16:12.719for a long time. But the credibility comes in the whole
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16:17.368entire system, meaning how did the receptionist
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16:21.055respond and act? How did the nurse respond and
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16:25.191act? And all of those have to provide levels
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16:29.680of credibility in order for someone to feel like
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16:32.400they can be open, okay?
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16:38.248Why might action be difficult? Again, in the biopsychosocial
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16:42.683model, we're gonna look, we'll look at symptoms, skills, and stressors,
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16:46.378and social barriers. But then on the prevention end,
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16:50.185on the extension end, we need to see
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16:54.154what are the ecological costs, what are the cross
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16:58.863pressures, the messages they're receiving from different people
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17:02.547in their life. And again, what that video went to,
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17:07.230realistic choice isn't necessarily,
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17:11.118I can't handle my substance use,
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17:16.361therefore I need help. When we talk about realistic
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17:20.298choice, this situation is
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17:23.654going to stigmatize me, or it may,
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17:28.184it's treating me like poorly, or I
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17:33.155might lose some of my identity and people around
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17:36.718me. And so to preserve those things,
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17:40.697the realistic choice in that situation is
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17:44.593to deny my substance use, as the
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17:48.435video kind of took us through.
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17:54.695And then we look at what changes behavior. So this combines biological,
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17:58.943behavioral, and social interventions. Again, I use diabetes
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18:02.292as a good example. So the diabetic takes their
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18:06.795medication, they change their eating
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18:11.202habits behaviorally, and hopefully maybe start exercising
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18:14.487more. And in social situations,
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18:19.390they may not eat to avoid— they might not
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18:22.499eat to avoid social interactions.
18:23.333 -->
18:27.843Emotional type of eating tends to center around social interactions.
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18:31.615And so we look at all those things, but then we need to
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18:35.739look again from a prevention perspective, is the
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18:39.864changes in conditions, meanings, and costs of
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18:42.271a protective action. Okay,
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18:47.535meaning what does it mean if I have to stop using
18:47.664 -->
18:50.919substance And even though it
18:51.419 -->
18:54.815may be fake, it may be not
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18:58.293good for me, what does that mean if I need to
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19:02.622stop hanging around people who validate
19:03.122 -->
19:06.966me? And when I'm around them, they think I'm cool or
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19:11.246that I'm funny or I'm this or that.
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19:15.239What does it mean to give up that in order to
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19:19.318not use my substance or lower the risk
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19:22.244of me using a substance. Okay,
19:22.667 -->
19:27.000so all of these kinds of things need to be taken
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19:28.254into consideration.
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19:33.501And we'll end with this part right here for today.
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19:38.861Is the other thing that we need to kind of keep
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19:43.059in mind is this isn't a linear thing that a person,
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19:46.528if they're feel safe, they feel secure, they feel like
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19:51.234they can maintain their identity and
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19:55.474who they are, they'll go to the next step to admitting
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19:58.799to what their problem is, to the next step
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20:02.509to an intervention, and so on. This is more of a
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20:06.669circular thing, okay? So we start with the
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20:10.813ecological condition. Where is the conversation
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20:15.034going to happen? Who is present and what are the rules
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20:18.997that exist? So again, that's where we go to mainly
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20:22.879the healthcare setting is that this is a
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20:27.387place where more than likely someone will,
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20:31.413can have a conversation that they feel
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20:35.359like they're getting, they're excessively using substances
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20:40.146and they're starting to not be able to function without it. The healthcare
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20:44.295location is one of the ultimate places where that conversation
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20:47.944can happen. So in that, we have
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20:53.583to consider who's having those conversations and
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20:58.439who's gonna be there and what rules protect
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21:03.076me or not. And then we need to step
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21:07.2172 where we go through identity appraisal. What does the encounter say
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21:11.673about who I am? And how a clinician sees
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21:15.096me. And so this
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21:18.498is where we kind of state, if I admit this,
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21:22.611how are they going to respond? Are they going to go,
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21:26.805going to do the whole individual willpower,
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21:30.190you can do it BS? Or are they
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21:33.872going to be there and be supportive and not force
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21:38.047me to all of a sudden be
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21:43.086someone that I'm not? Okay. And then the regulatory
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21:47.387signals. Does this evoke a threat of shame,
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21:49.634trust, curiosity, or belonging?
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21:54.978What are the cross pressures? So when we talk about cross pressure,
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21:59.584this is where we're getting mixed signals from different
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22:03.704parts of our social system. So, for example,
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22:06.714in the treatment setting,
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22:12.199a relapse is seen as— in
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22:16.385the cognitive behavioral therapy relapse,
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22:20.662a relapse is not seen as a failure.
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22:27.354It is seen as a misjudgment
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22:31.705or a a mistake or something.
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22:33.815It's something that is repairable.
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22:39.130Okay. But in certain
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22:43.198religious communities, not all, but in certain religious
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22:47.838communities, a relapse would be something that you sinned.
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22:51.850You need to go ask for forgiveness. You did something bad.
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22:55.872You're a bad person. So now let's say the person is going
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23:00.527through treatment. They're receiving cross-pressure
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23:05.451from 2 different ways of thinking about
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23:09.854their relapse. Okay, that cross-pressure
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23:13.666then can create identity appraisal,
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23:17.791identity alignment issues, and they
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23:21.709might drop the relapse prevention because it
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23:25.787doesn't align with their religious belief. Or they
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23:29.932might give up that identity about themselves
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23:34.800in their spirituality and faith and
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23:38.174go with the relapse prevention technique.
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23:43.348So there's gonna be a loss in that kind of situation either
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23:47.284way. And so how do we as communities
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23:50.883and systems reduce that potential?
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23:55.109Okay, and this is where we get into calibration
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23:59.367and behavior. Does the person disclose, minimize, or avoid, or try
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24:03.481a new action? And then this is where the feedback come
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24:07.642in. How does the system respond? What does that teach the
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24:11.627person about future help-seeking? Because again,
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24:16.689if we do it wrong, they're simply not gonna go and
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24:20.723get help when they need it. If we do it right,
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24:24.726they'll have more trust. They can retain who they are as
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24:27.919an individual and get help. Okay.
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24:33.507All right. I think that was a
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24:37.714little bit of overload for today. So when
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24:42.036we come back on Thursday, we'll talk about things like non-compliance
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24:45.909and adherence. And continue this conversation.
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24:49.596But I'm going to stop my sharing and stop.
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24:54.348Thank you for joining us for this Psychology Explained.
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24:58.792I hope you'll join us in later episodes where we can— we'll continue
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25:02.713to investigate the human mind and psychology.