Pray First

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Welcome to the Don't You Worry podcast. We're
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your hosts, Briley and Britton Caldwell. And
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we're here to say, don't you worry, through stories,
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encouragement, and joy. Be sure to like and subscribe
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so you don't miss an episode. So sit back, relax,
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and enjoy today's conversation. What's up, you
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guys? Welcome back to the Don't You Worry podcast.
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It's your favorite host, Briley and Britton.
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And as you can tell, we're still long distancing,
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but... We get to see each other this week. I'm
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actually so hyped because it's about to be Union's
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family weekend, which means you get to come stay
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in my dorm, be a little college student for the
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weekend. It's going to be so much fun. I'm so
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excited. But I'm really hyped. I am outside.
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So like if anyone's watching this and they're
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like, wow, she's really. Really taking that standard
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of appearance down when she went to college.
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I don't have any aches in my dorm right now.
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And it's a little hot, like it's 93 degrees outside.
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So I didn't want to be like pouring sweat on
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camera. So we chose to be outside, which. didn't
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really make sense. But anyway, I'm still so excited
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to get to have this conversation today. And so
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Britton brought this idea to me about talking
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about prayer, which was super exciting. But before
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we like jump into that, what has been going on
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this week that you haven't told me about? Because
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we haven't really updated each other a whole
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lot. Anything fun or exciting? Honestly, like
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it's been it's been really fun. I've been hanging
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out with my friends a lot. We've done something
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just about every night together just because
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like I love just being with them. I think junior
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year is so like fun because, you know, you can
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drive and your friends are like you want to do
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all the social things, which has been so exciting.
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And I've also been having to work on my classes
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and balancing that has been difficult. But also
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like it's been so fun because I went to the UT
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game and I went to like. You know, I just like
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went to a couple of social events with my friends.
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It's been really fun. I've also taken my first
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Old Testament test. So that was exciting. College
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tests. That's always different. But yeah, that
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Old Testament class has actually been really
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interesting because I've been learning a lot
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of different things. Some stuff that like. it'll
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stick out to me. And it's something that I didn't
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even expect to learn through the class because
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it goes into more like commentary based and like
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little, you're so social, little like other areas
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of that. And I think that's been cool through
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that Old Testament class because I'm not expected
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to learn actual things that I can apply to my
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life. I was just expecting to like listen to
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and like read the stories of the Old Testament,
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but it's been actually really exciting. So anything
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with you? Yeah. No, that's so cool because I
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took Old Testament and New Testament dual enrollment
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last year when I was still trying to figure out
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a class, like a class to do ahead of time. I
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knew whichever college I ended up going to, I
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would need both of those since I was still like
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between a couple of colleges. So I was like,
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I'll go ahead and do it now. But I'm so glad
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I did because I was so much more intentional
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with like, I read through the entire Bible, which
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is something I've never done consecutively. And
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I'm glad I did that then. When I like had the
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intentional time to do it. Because I highly recommend
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it. But this week I'm trying to think. There's
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been all kinds of stuff. We have like I said
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our air conditioning went out. So then we spent
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the night at our roommate's house. Which was
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so fun. And we got up so early and left her this
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morning. I was like this is kind of bad. Like
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it feels like we're just leaving her like by
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herself. But so we like did all that. We've just
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been up really late. Doing random things all
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week. Which is like Riley please get a sleep
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schedule together. But at the same time it's
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been so much fun. Now I'm blanking on like what
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all we've done, but there were so many funny
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things. I also, I'm pretty sure this is, I don't
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know if I talked about this last time or not,
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but I had to walk in the rain for the first time
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because it's been beautiful on campus. Like so
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gorgeous, sunny every day. And there was this
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one day where I didn't, I knew it was raining,
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but I didn't expect it to be raining so hard.
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And my umbrella was still in my car. So I was
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like, I'll just like go across campus. It's not
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that bad. I put these like athletic pants on.
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By the time I got to where I was at, this girl
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like gave me a different pair of shoes. because
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they were it looked like I jumped in the ocean
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like at first my whole everything was soaked
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I was like this is not ideal so we've been like
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learning little tricks it's like okay maybe keep
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an umbrella with you which sounds so stupid I
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feel like these random updates I'm giving you
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are just like adulting yeah like I have to do
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laundry today but like It's a whole list. Anyway,
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but I do want to get into our actual episode
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and just jump right in. So you've been talking
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a lot about prayer, which when you said this
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idea to me about let's do a whole episode diving
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in on the types of prayer, methods of prayer,
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and like how to jump in deeper on that. I kind
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of pushed back for a second. It was like, I don't
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know if we should. I was like, because I feel
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like I don't know that much about prayer, if
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I'm being so honest. Like that's the part of
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my spiritual life. that I think I want to improve
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on the most because I'm just not very intentional
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with it. And this verse actually stuck out to
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me so much right before I got to college. I don't
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know if this was like in a sermon when I got
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here or it may have been even like our church
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does a reading back home of like daily scripture
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readings. I think this may have been in that
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scripture reading and I just read it like in
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my dorm. And it's Psalm 32, six. or psalm 32
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6 and 7 which says therefore let everyone who
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is godly offer prayer to you at a time when you
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may be found surely in the rush of great waters
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they shall not reach him you are a hiding place
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for me you preserve me from trouble you surround
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me with shouts of deliverance say la and when
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i saw it i was like offering prayer first at
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a time when you may be found like In any different
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circumstance, because obviously I'm changing
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a lot, like different circumstances, different
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environment, different people, like the people
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that I've been hanging out with for the last
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month, I didn't know a month ago. And there's
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so many ups and downs to that. But like in the
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good and the bad, offering prayer first is something
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that I really want to be doing and diving into.
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So I want you to take it away now that I'm done
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yapping and lead us into our conversation. Yeah,
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honestly, like, prayer is so important in your
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walk with the Lord because it's straight communication
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with God, with your Father. And, like, reading
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His Word, it's, like, that's the words of God.
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That's the breath of God. Like, that's obviously
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important, too. But I really wanted to, like.
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kind of like you said, like, I need to be more
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intentional about prayer in my life anyway, and
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I think whenever I was diving into this, I was
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like, I think we should talk about prayer because
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prayer needs to be stressed. Like, it needs to
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be so important where you feel the conviction
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to pray so much. Not because it feels like a
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burden on you, but because you want to talk to
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your Father. Because something that I've had,
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I've had a conviction recently, and this has
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been going on for a couple months now, and it's
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just like, I don't truly know my father I need
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to know him and that's through talking to him
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that's through reading his word and after like
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I said like with this Old Testament class I'm
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literally just reading the words of God and sometimes
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it's very long and it's a very long process but
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also like getting into it eventually I do see
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fruits and I do see like the impact of that and
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the first kind of thought of like prayer that
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I want to get into is just conversational prayer
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and it's literally just like talking out loud
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or in your head whatever works for you but literally
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just talking about everything with God just laying
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it all at his feet and it's almost like a brain
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dump I feel like I do this a lot towards the
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end of the day and um I will just like kind of
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debrief my day with God it's just like obviously
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he knows everything that happened but I just
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want to I just want to get it out and I love
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praying out loud something that I'll do usually
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like sometimes when I'm driving and I'm just
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alone in the car sometimes that's like my time
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where I pray and it's just like me just the fact
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that you're driving is not okay like the fact
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that you just said that is weird to me yeah it's
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like Whenever I was first driving alone in the
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car, I literally, I was driving and I was like,
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God, this is weird. Why did you put me in the
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driver's seat of a car? I was literally saying
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that. Just all of my thoughts, I want to just
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talk to him because he's there. He's my friend.
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He's my father. I'm always able to talk to my
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dad and my mom and you. I'm able to talk to my
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family because I can just... tell you guys everything
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because I feel close to you I feel connected
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with you I've built that relationship and that
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trust where I know you guys aren't going to betray
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me and go tell a bunch of people my deepest darkest
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thoughts like that's not that's a trust that
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I've built and I trust God with my life because
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I know he already has my life and just being
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able to just completely empty everything at his
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feet it's almost a relief on me because like
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sometimes it's hard for me because the way that
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I process things is I process it internally and
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I don't always like like I don't always like
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to share it with somebody right away I need to
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like think about okay what just happened like
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how do I handle this situation whether it's me
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lashing out on someone or if me it's me like
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experiencing something with somebody or whatever
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it may be, like I need to process something alone
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and quietly. And then just being able to just
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talk about that with God afterwards is almost
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like, okay, it's out in the open. Like obviously
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he already knows, but it releases something in
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me because I get to talk to somebody that I trust
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because I know that God's going to take care
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of me. I know that he knows everything that's
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going on in my heart, but. It's so good because
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Jesus is literally interceding for us in heaven
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right now. And God understands my thoughts and
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words, even when I don't like having that opportunity
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to literally just like experience a thought and
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trying to say something out loud when I don't
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even know what I'm trying to say. God still understands
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me. So whatever my situation is with my conversational
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prayer, God still understands. And I think that's
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so beautiful because no matter where I'm at,
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if I'm at my highest high and I'm like, I'm just
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shouting out words to God, just like, Like this
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has been the best worship set ever. Like I've
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been experiencing your presence, like using all
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of those words. That's so beautiful. But also
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in a sense where I'm like, God, you know, like
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you feel me? Like even in those situations, he
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still understands me. And having that conversational
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prayer is so important to literally just be at
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your lowest or at your highest and just being
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able to talk. Yeah, that's so good. And another
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type of prayer that we were going to talk about
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is, this concept of scripture prayer, reading
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scripture over yourself and praying those words
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to the Lord, which can be something you're doing
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when you don't have the words to say. Like you
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said, some days you get to the end of the day
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and it's just like, I don't even have the words.
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Like, Lord, help me. And He does. He intercedes
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for us. But speaking the truth that He's already
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given us can impact us in an incredible way.
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And so like, yes, do it when you don't have the
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words, but then also do it when you do have the
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words, when you're excited, when you're grateful.
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We've been talking every Sunday here at the church
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I've been going to about gratitude and how much
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the heart of gratitude really changes everything
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about us. Like it shows you that we, God owes
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us nothing and we owe him absolutely everything.
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So like, what are we doing? Feeling entitled
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or complaining about things that don't matter?
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There's just, he's literally given us life, given
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us breath. So why are we living the way that
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we are? We have so much to owe him and he's worthy
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of everything that we have. So this concept of
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scripture prayer, I love so much because one,
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sometimes it's good just to hear, like if you
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pray this over somebody, some of my professors
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will pray this at the beginning of class. They'll
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pray scripture over us or we'll all pray it like
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at the same time at the beginning of class. And
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that's really impactful because letting the truth
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seep in to your heart and your life, like just
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undistracted. is a big concept. But then at the
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same time, like doing it while I'm in my dorm
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bed, reading scripture out loud. There's, I think
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our dad told us, if you read out loud, like your
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brain physically can't comprehend what else is
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going on outside of that. And you know, like
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when you're reading silently, sometimes it's
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like your mind wanders. And all of a sudden you're
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thinking about this test you have to do and the
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fro -yo you're going to get later with your best
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friend. And then you're like, wait, where was
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I? I was supposed to be praying. But if you like
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read out loud. is a big big difference to me
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especially because it just like it focuses your
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whole heart and mind you know yeah and there's
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like a specific passage that came to my mind
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whenever I was talking about scripture praying
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because I love that concept because the words
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are there for you and it's direct application
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of God's word into your life like if like I was
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I've been reading for my Old Testament class
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I've been reading through the Psalms and the
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Proverbs and It's we're just being able to read
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those and like if it sticks out to you, note
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that and like understand why is it sticking out
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to me? Like, what am I going through in this
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moment? And it was like right after I had led
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worship one Wednesday and scripture like it just
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stuck out to me. And then I just prayed that
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because I was like, this is this is so beautiful
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because it's it's God's words applying to my
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life because he hears me and he sees me and he
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knows that I need this in this moment. And in
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Psalm 51, it's. it's the title in my ESV Bible
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is create in me a clean heart oh God and I think
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that's so special this passage if I am like stuck
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in a sin in my life if I'm constantly like creating
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a pattern in a habit of a sin or like whatever
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it may be in whatever situation it is I I always
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go back to this Psalm to pray over my life because
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some of the verses, I'm just going to read a
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couple, but it like, it kind of gets the gist
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of it. Like verse one, it says, have mercy on
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me. Oh God, according to your steadfast love,
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according to your abundant mercy, blot out my
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transgressions. And like, just starting in verse
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one, it already calls your steadfast love, your
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abundant mercy. Like you are going to forgive
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me, but I know like. God, I've messed up, like
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have mercy on me because I'm not perfect. And
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I know you are like, that's just already setting
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that up. And then into verse two, wash me thoroughly
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from my iniquity and cleanse me from my sin.
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Verse three, for I know my transgression and
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my sin is ever before me. And it just, it just
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keeps going on. And I think that's so beautiful
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to note. Just like I am, I'm stuck in the sin,
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God, and I need your help. Like it's a cry for
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help. It's one of those Psalms where. The author
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of it is literally crying out for help in that
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moment. And that can apply directly to my life.
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And I can pray that and then experience that
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with God. Because like I said, sometimes when
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I'm caught in sin, I don't even I don't even
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realize it. And I don't even know that I need
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to repent. And so then whenever I do realize
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it, I'm like, well, how do I even how do I even
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address this? Because it's been going on for
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so long. I go to that song because I know that
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like his mercy is so great and his steadfast
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love is so great. And that also kind of leads
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into the Acts prayer model. Our dad talks about
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this one a lot. And A -C -T -S, it all stands
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for a different thing. So A is for adoration.
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And adoration is literally just like praising
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God. paying attention to him, putting God first.
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Like I've been listening to Lauren Daigle a lot
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recently. One of her songs first, it says like,
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before I bring my need, I'll bring my heart.
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Like, God, I'm going to put you first. I want
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to seek you first in everything. And so having
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that adoration first, starting off your prayer
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by literally just praising God, just saying like,
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God, you're so holy. That puts you in a mindset
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that prayer is something that is necessary. It's
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not something that is just like, Like I said,
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you need conversational prayer, but that's not
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the only prayer that you need because like that's
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just talking everything out. That's just like
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a brain dump journaling method that we've talked
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about before. Like you need to understand the
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importance of prayer and setting like praising
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first. I think that brings your attention to
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the throne room of heaven and it sets you. This
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is where my prayer is going to. It's going to.
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god right now seated on the throne with angels
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shouting how holy he is and c stands for confession
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it's just humbling yourself before god and just
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understanding god these are my sins this is everything
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that i've done wrong this is where i've fallen
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short of your glory. This is why I don't deserve
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to talk to you right now. But like having that
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prayer first is knowing that he has that abundant
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mercy and that steadfast love for us. And then
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it goes straight into confession and the T stands
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for Thanksgiving. And like you were saying, the
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gratitude is so important. Having a heart of
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gratitude and having that mindset, just going
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right after in like, after you've just said all
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of your sins and had that conviction in your
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heart and that realization that you've fallen
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short of his glory, then going into Thanksgiving
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with that. just literally saying how grateful
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you are for God and for his forgiveness. Like,
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God, thank you for this person in my life. God,
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thank you. Just reminding yourself that God is
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good, that there are like, God is everywhere
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around you. Like something that. Me finding what
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I'm grateful for every day is a habit that I've
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tried to find and just like saying one or two
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things that I'm grateful for every single day
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and just thinking about that. And sometimes it's
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hard because I'm like, I don't want to just say
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that I'm grateful for the stuff that I have because
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I am, but also like, that's not what this is
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about. It's me saying like, God, I'm grateful
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that you put this person in my life today. Like
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I'm grateful for this conversation. I had this
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interaction. I had going deeper than just like,
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God, I'm grateful for my house, which like I
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am. I'm so. grateful for my house don't get me
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wrong but like also taking that deeper and the
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last part of that is supplication and that's
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the part where you ask God for something it's
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where you are asking God God I need help I need
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patience in this situation God I don't know what
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to do about this culture that I'm in I don't
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know how I can best impact these people that
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I'm around whatever it is that you need from
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God, that you're asking from God, that's how
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you end it because you've set yourself up because
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I was listening to one of dad's sermons the other
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day and he was talking about how like we, whenever
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you set yourself up in that prayer already, that
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last part, what you ask for is aligning with
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God's will. Because whenever like not all of
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your prayers are going to be answered because
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not all of your desires line up with the will
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of God. But if you have that set up first, if
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you praise him, if you thank him, if you confess
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your sins, then your heart is cleansed by God.
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And it's it's washed thoroughly, like Psalm 51
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was saying. And like then you're asking God.
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to help other people in your life. It's not all
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about you because it's more like, God, help me
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impact these people. God, I need, I need guidance
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here, whatever it is. And that's just like recognizing
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his power and understanding where you've fallen
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short from that and just being grateful for it.
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And then asking God, I think that is such an
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impactful way to pray because you're specifically
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positioning your heart to like sometimes I've
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been praying in that Acts model and I get to
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my, like I start off, I'm like, okay, I know
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I want to ask God for these things. Well, then
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I get to the supplication. I'm like, that's actually
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not at all according to what he has for me. Like
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that's actually, actually don't tell me to act
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sassy towards them. Actually, let me have patience
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instead because you want to be like God if you're
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praying like that. Yeah, that's so good because
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if, again, if you go throughout all those steps,
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like by the time you get to the, part of supplication,
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your heart is already changed, and you're like,
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oh, these are the things that matter, and going
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into that, this other concept of prayer in the
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Bible is intercessory prayer, which means interceding
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for others, because as the Lord intercedes for
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us, and prays for us the words and we don't have
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the words to say, then we also should in turn
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pray for others like that. And sometimes we don't
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have the words. There's multiple times where
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friends have come to me with really hard advice
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or really heartbreaking advice or just things
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that I can't really relate to. I talked about
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that a lot. with my Honduras trip over the summer
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is people on our team and people we met who I
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was like, I just don't know. Like, I'm not in
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that place. I don't understand why God would
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allow that to happen. I don't see his purpose,
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but he does. So even praying for others in the
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sense that's like, Lord, I can't do it, but you
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can. And this concept of intercessory prayer,
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whether you've heard this line one time or you've
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heard it a million times, the concept that if
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every prayer you prayed this week was answered,
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whose lives would be affected. And I've heard
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that a million times, but every time I hear it,
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I'm like, wow, because if I'm being so honest
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and vulnerable this week, I don't think that
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my like prayer time necessarily has even added
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up to like an hour. If I'm being so for real,
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like I just have not been in. this heart of prayer
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because I'll get to the end of the day and be
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laying in bed. And I'm like, well, now that I've
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got nothing else to do, let me tell you about
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my day, Lord. And then I fall asleep in two minutes.
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So like, and yeah, maybe I'll pray for like 30
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seconds when I get up. And it's not that you
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have to pray for five hours every day. Like your
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schedule is going to look different and you're
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going to pray and worship the Lord in different
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ways and different forms every day. But just
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this concept of praying for others, like what
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are you praying for? What do your prayers look
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like? Because that will probably reflect how
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much you've been putting into your life, how
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much scripture you're consuming. If you're consuming
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a lot of the scripture and you're reading it
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over yourself, and if you're engaging in a daily
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prayer time with God already, you're just going
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to want to, these fruits of the spirit that we
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talked about all summer are just going to come
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up in you where you're like, oh, I pray that
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this person is able to deal with this relationship
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in this way. Or that my friend who is experiencing
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a lot of change right now, that she would just
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have patience with this. It's just like the heart
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posture you have will turn into not like, it's
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just like going to be wanting the best for them.
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Like you would want the best for yourself, you
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know? And it's going to change your relationship
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with each other way more than you realize. Like
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we've both had. a lot of good friendships over
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the last year that we've been open and honest
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and we're like hey I'm struggling with this and
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they're like I'm struggling with this and one
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that's a way to keep each other accountable but
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just the way you interact with each other will
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be different like you're gonna see it as this
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is my time to encourage this person and not tear
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them down. Your words are going to be different.
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The way you interact, your actions, it's all
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going to point more towards the father. So this
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concept of intercessory prayer is like, yes,
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pray for yourself as far as like, pray that you
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have the right heart posture first. Don't be
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like, oh, well, this person was in this sin.
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So I pray that you would help them with that.
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When the Lord is like, I think there's a passage
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in James where the Lord is like, well, but what
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about? the sin in your own life first like you
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haven't dealt with that yet which goes back to
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like if you're doing the axe method or there's
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not like a certain way necessarily to pray every
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single time it's going to be different but like
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just this concept of surrendering first and then
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you're going to want to pray more and more for
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those around you for just to see more of God's
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goodness in your life right and like praying
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for others is literally showing his love it's
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an action in the in the scripture that it tells
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you to command in the scripture like go and do
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like go and pray for other people and i think
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it's like not don't pray for the reward but if
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you pray for others and like you see change in
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their life that like that's rewarding for your
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heart and it makes you like it gains it builds
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your trust like you said with their with your
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relationship with them and also with your relationship
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with the father because it's like you're just
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crying out to him and you're also doing that
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for them it's it's a selfless act that is rewarding
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in the end because it's not all about you in
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this life it's not all about that that's not
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all that your prayer life should be because you
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know God made people to be with people. He created
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us so that we could experience life with these
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people. So why not pray for the best for them?
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Why would you just pray for yourself? And I think
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kind of the way that we wanted to almost wrap
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this up is something that... One of the reasons
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why I wanted to talk about prayer so much is
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because whenever I was reading in the passage,
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I don't remember which gospel account it's in.
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It might be in a couple different ones. But whenever
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Jesus is praying right before he gets crucified,
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it says that he is crying and like ears and blood
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praying to his father because he knows what's
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about to happen. He knows that he's about to
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go get crucified. It's the worst kind of death
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you can ever possibly imagine. And he is crying.
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and praying so hard that he's sweating blood.
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Like, I want to pray so hard that, like, I want
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to pray like that. I want to have that conviction
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in my heart to pray like that. Like, I want to
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pray so hard and believe so hard with intercessory
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prayer, praying for others, praying, just praising
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him, just talking to God about whatever I'm going
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through, praying that scripture of my life. I
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want to pray it so hard and pray so passionately
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like Jesus did because I want my life to reflect
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how Jesus lived. And that is something that stands
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out to me so much countless times again, because
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it's hard for me to think sometimes about like
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Jesus's life on earth, because like Jesus, the
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father, like the, and the Holy spirit, they're
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all connected. Like how, how does that work?
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But also like just understanding that he was.
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like his whole time on this earth, he prayed
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so much because he just wanted to be so connected
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with his father. And I want to be so connected
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with my father and something that I really want
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to challenge us and like just everybody out there.
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I think something that a lot of people our age
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and even people older than us, younger than us,
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whatever it may be, a lot of people struggle
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with praying out loud. in front of other people.
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And something that we've practiced this a lot
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because we, you know, you lead worship a lot
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and I've led worship some and just like, you
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know, we pray into a mic right after worship
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service. Like we've gotten used to praying in
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front of others because something that a lot
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of people are nervous about that because they're
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like, well, I don't want anybody else to hear
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my prayer. But I think just being comfortable
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enough in your relationship with God, like. not
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comfortable, but confident enough in your relationship
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with God, knowing that you're able to pray in
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front of others because it's literally just you
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and God. You're not praying for them to listen
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to it. You're not praying so that they can hear
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how theological you can sound. You're not praying
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so that you say all the right words. You're literally
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just having a conversation with God. It's just.
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I mean, like whether it's before a meal, praying
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before a meal, praying in front of others, just
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praying at the end of a Bible study, praying
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before you gather with your friends, praying
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whenever it is with people or with family or
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whatever situation you're in. Just having that
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ability to practice praying in front of others
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is something that is so important because that
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shows other people that. She knows this is just
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her and the Father. It's not that she's putting
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on a show. This isn't a scripted prayer that
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she's talking about. It's literally just her
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having a conversation with her Father. And I
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think that comes from prayer life on your own
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time first. You need to build that relationship
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in your prayer life with you and God first. And
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then you can be able to literally just carry
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that wherever you go. Carry that in front of
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other people. Carry that with... One -on -one,
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carry that wherever it may be. Yeah, and thank
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goodness that the Lord does intercede for us
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because like you said, a million times we have
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messed up on that. There's been times where we've
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had to pray into a mic and we're really focusing
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way too much on the words thinking, oh, well,
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like what if somebody in the room like thinks
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about this or this, but like just doing it over
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and over again makes a difference too. You know
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what I mean? I love that. Just doing it over
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and over again makes such a difference too. that
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like the more you do it, the more you're going
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to be comfortable doing it. And the more you
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pray, the more honest and open you're going to
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be in your relationship with God. And the more
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you're going to see fruit from it and then celebrate
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when there's answered prayers, celebrate. Like
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I saw the coolest thing that I sent to you on
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Instagram about, I had listened to one of Sadie
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Robertson Huff's podcasts last year with her
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sister, Bella Robertson. And her sister had been
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super open and vulnerable about like, The season
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she was in right then, she was struggling a lot
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with infertility. It was like a really, really
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hard struggle. But she asked her to come on the
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podcast because her prayer wasn't answered yet.
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And she wanted to be vulnerable and be like the
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passage in scripture that's like Shadrach, Meshach,
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and Abednego. And they're like, even if you don't
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deliver us from this, my hope is still in you.
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And she was on there like speaking these words
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of truth. It was like, this is a really hard
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struggle. But even if my plan isn't the Lord's
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plan, he's still good. And he's still... Awesome.
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We're going to keep praying for his will to be
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done, not for ours. So like, yes, we want this
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so bad, but we're going to pray for his will
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instead of ours. And then this week she had posted
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that she had a baby. And I was like. Oh my gosh,
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my heart. I literally cried when I saw it because
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I was like seeing, even though I never know her,
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like I'm probably never going to meet her ever,
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but just seeing her be so open and honest about
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like the reality of the prayer life she was in
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and then celebrating so hard when the Lord did
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answer the prayer in His timing and in His way.
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Yeah, it was so beautiful. And I just love I
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just love the concept of prayer because it's
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literally just direct communication with God.
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And I think that I know I need to get better
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about intentionally praying. And for a while
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I had a lot of people come up to me with prayer
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requests and they were like, hey, can you pray
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for me about this? And it became to a point where
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I was like, oh, yeah, I'll pray for you. And
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then like a couple of weeks later, I was like.
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I don't think I ever intentionally prayed for
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them multiple times. I prayed for them maybe
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once. And so I started writing things down like,
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hey, I need to pray for this or I need to whatever.
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And then I just thought like, wait until God
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answers it. And if it doesn't answer the way
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that I want it to, it's still answered because
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God's like, that's just how God works. He's either
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going to answer your prayer or do whatever it
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is for his will. Like if your heart aligns with
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his will, then your prayer will get answered.
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And I think having that experience and having
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that habit of writing things down, I need to
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pray for this. I need to pray for this. And specifically
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setting intentional time to pray, however it
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may look in your life, whatever is best for you.
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Just having that intentional prayer time, I think
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is something that will radically change the way
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that you live your life, the way that you approach
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your relationship with God, the way that. people
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will see a difference in you if you pray more.
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Yes, that's so good. This has been such a good
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conversation. We want to encourage everybody,
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as soon as you turn this episode off, go find
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some prayer time alone and in an opportunity
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where you can just go into private and pray from
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your heart and not like, don't worry about all
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the things of the day. Don't worry about being
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perfect with it. Just go and pray and watch what
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the Lord will do in your life. Yes, this is such
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a great conversation. I loved it so much. And
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we'll see you back next week for another amazing
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conversation.