#131 Creativity Creates Harmony: Fear, Healing, and The Quest for Wonder with Julie Lavender LeDoux

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Welcome
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to Disorganized
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Productions,
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where chaos creates harmony.
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Exploring ideas beyond the ordinary,
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where every episode is a journey.
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Controversial topics,
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creative guests,
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and a deep dive
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into our belief system.
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There's the countdown.
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Alright.
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Hey, fellow human. Welcome to another episode of Disorganized Productions, episode 131.
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And today I have someone with me whose
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stories touches on something we talk about quite often on this podcast.
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What happens
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when you stop allowing fear to decide who you are?
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And for one time we have a new slogan, instead of chaos creates harmony,
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it will be creativity
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creates harmony.
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My guest today is Julie Lavender Ledoux.
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I hope I pronounced it all right. And Julie is an author,
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musician,
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visual artist,
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performer,
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and public speaker.
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But behind all those titles is much more interesting story.
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For years, Julie struggled with,
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now I'm struggling by the word, debiliating
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fear and performance anxiety.
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Yet, of allowing that fear to define the boundaries of her life, she eventually turned it into a part of her creative journey.
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That journey has taken her through music,
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painting,
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writing,
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and broadcasting.
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She founded Dream Farm Radio,
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created music that brings together jazz,
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spirituality,
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and art,
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and became the author of the amazing series,
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stories that encourage young people to question conformity,
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think for themselves,
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live
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courageously
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and rediscover something Julie calls wonder.
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And that wonder,
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that word wonder is probably a good place for
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us to begin
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because
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maybe growing up isn't supposed to mean losing our imagination,
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our curiosity,
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or the courage to be different.
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Today, we're going to have a talk about fear,
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creativity,
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trauma,
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purpose,
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freedom,
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and what it actually means to find your wonder.
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Welcome,
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Julie, also called the wet pilled Mary Popkins
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to DisorderX Productions.
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I like how you say that. It's
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lavender is of color, Julie Lavender Ladue.
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And it's,
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in case your audience
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wants to hear that again, it's the red pilled
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Mary Poppins.
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What could that possibly mean?
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Right?
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That's a And what does that have to do with anything you just said? I guess we're gonna have to figure it out.
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Oh, I think we're gonna
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cover that up in
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the talk that we have right now. So again, welcome Julie for
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being on Disorganized Productions.
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So
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the amazing series, that's one of the things that
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you heard
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when you were struggling in a time, I hope I'm
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right with this, and you heard something like
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Mrs. Amazing and The Seat.
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And then your journey started. Please tell us about it.
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Well, it was in a very dark time when our oldest child decided to throw away everything that we had risked
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the most to give him.
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It's a dark night of the soul.
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And it was part of a journey of overcoming fear
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because I was a fearful little
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girl, a fearful,
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you know, older girl, a fearful mother and wife.
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And it just went so much. That was the word that defined me in so many ways.
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And so there was like looking, and there are many worst fear moments where I've had to look that thing in the eye,
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come out the other end into the wonder you're talking about.
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But this was the one that hit close to home. So, I was grieving
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and I saw this woman in my mind who snot
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coming out of her nose. She was tissues stuffed in her shirt
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And I heard the words Mrs. Amazing
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and the Seed.
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I had no idea what that had to do with anything that I was going through.
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And wound up going to the page and writing
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what became
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essentially the origin story of this family,
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the one family in an entirely color blind town that can see color
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because they interact with a supernatural realm called wonder. And what that had to do with anything in my life at the time, what that had to do with
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the problem and the crisis and the fear, I honestly did not know.
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And yet the page, going to the page and finding out who is this woman? Why is she Mrs. Amazing? What does the seed have to do with anything?
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And it's
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been a really intriguing journey to find out.
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So
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it seems like the
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brightness of Constance, right? That's the main character of
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the books that you've been written.
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So she sees color.
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Is this something that you can,
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back in the days when you were struggling with this grief and stuff like that,
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project it like, I want to be that person because the rest is this dark
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space where I'm in?
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Well, you know what? At the moment that I was writing, I was dealing with what I think is a universal
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struggle that parents go through. What if the one thing you risk the most
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to give to your children
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they decide they don't want?
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That's probably one of the deepest heartbreaks a parent will And ever then it goes into the fear of did I fail and what did I do? And I had all these other background fears,
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paralyzing
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stage fright.
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I mean, the
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fear of relationships,
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intimacy, honesty, you know, the whole thing. I mean, I had it.
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Name a fear, I probably had it, except for not the fear of buttons. Apparently that's a thing.
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There's clearly a specific phobia that has something to do with buttons. And that one I didn't have.
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In any event,
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I was
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writing
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about
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this pain and this deep fear that
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you've messed up your kid or
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the thing that you literally have bled heart and soul to give to your kids, to share with your kids, and they throw it away and
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don't want it. It's such a deep pain.
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And so I began to write the story.
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It started with Mrs. Amazing, who was anything but amazing.
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Her name was Faye Faltzem. I mean, very faulted. And it tells her story in the dark night of the soul of this journey
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in
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a great gray world.
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How she and her husband
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are non
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conforming
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to
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the order,
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the prescribed order.
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And how everyone else who conforms loses their ability to see color. And how they can see something.
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And because of this realm of wonder that they don't understand, they can see color. And that makes them different. So they do different things with their kids. And they risk running
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afoul of the establishment
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control,
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which I think we can all begin to feel more clearly now than ever before that's a real thing.
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And so they risk everything to give their kids this colorful world, but that makes the children
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essentially
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not fit in.
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Non conforming kids.
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And the pain, the cost,
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the journey,
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what happens when this one family's ability to see what other people don't see and their children are raising up to see and be different? What happens if that actually costs them one of their kids, like Constance?
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And that was the origin story behind Mrs. Amazing and the Seed, which was sort of my first book.
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And then someone read it and went, Wow, you really got something here. Can you tell us,
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bring the kids to a younger age and bring us into the story?
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And so then the Amazing series
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began because this is just one weird little family. They're only amazing
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because of the realm of wonder. And
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wonder is not just an idea in a book.
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It's a realm and it really exists. And
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so
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I began to write back into the story of how did they get to this place with this older kid who doesn't want what they have anymore?
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And how did that develop? And what were the systems? What were the puppet masters? What were the controlling forces?
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What's going on behind the scenes that makes seeing color such a threat?
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And so, wow.
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And I started writing that in 2020,
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and when you didn't see what other people didn't want you to see,
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right?
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Got cancer.
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The story of Constance in general, that was a few years before and I worked through some issues and fears, but it led me to writing this
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epic
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story,
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the truth story of what's happened to us in the twenty first century.
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In metaphor,
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the conformist
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gray people who conform to the prescribed
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order.
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Uh-huh.
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They got it.
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And then there's one
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family in an entirely color blind town that can see color. And they don't even really know, they don't get it. They just know they do. And
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they know the realm of wonder is real, but they have no idea what a threat they are. They have no idea what's at stake.
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And Constance
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just wants to go to school with the other kids and make some friends and she has no idea
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that the decisions she makes will affect the destiny of her entire town.
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That's just the opener. And then I began to unpack,
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geez, by book five I'm taking on the World Economic Forum.
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You know,
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and you know, that's a fierce, you know, dealing with these topics
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in real time
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where it's costing people
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deeply
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to think differently
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speak Right.
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And children.
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These, you
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know,
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fortunately,
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because I had begun to deal with these core other fears
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of relationship and failure and intimacy and creativity and performance anxiety,
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it was preparing me to write courageous
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books
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for a generation of kids waking up in a world that
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no one could have imagined
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what's
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been unpacked, the Pandora's box before us now in the world, right?
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And so I had to become
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someone who lived out of wonder instead of fear
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to write about it, right? Right.
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And to know that.
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It seems to be that these stories are not only for kids because I think that a lot of people can relate to
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seeing colors and a lot of people around them are
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the blind ones or the ones that see gray and black. Right? Sometimes
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you just want to, I have one book where they
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won't allow people to see color, they make them wear gray glasses all the time, you know, just in case they see color and might get sick and die, you know.
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Got to put some on your face to keep you safe love from how you're you. Dangerous.
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So I think if you make an adult book that will be banned, you know, because they don't want to have this kind of stuff out.
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It's interesting what you said about these are for adults because these books are healing. Like when,
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I don't know where you want to jump in where,
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but it is all part of a story of
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overcoming trauma
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living out of great courage,
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which doesn't mean you don't feel afraid. It just means you learn
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to believe in a bigger truth than your feelings, right?
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Right.
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So
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after all of the things going on in my life that brought me into
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wholeness,
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now I'm writing books and I don't know honestly if my characters will survive because we're living it in real time everything that happened
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in 2021,
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2022.
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And
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everything
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around us,
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puppet masters notching down
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to
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control
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thoughts, feeling, ideas, speech, medical choices,
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you know. And so I began to unpack this through this metaphor and this family and the elders of the order behind the scenes.
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and sometimes when I talk to families about this, kids will pull on their mom's shirt and go, that's just like what we went through mom. That's like, that's how it felt when we were locked in our houses and they were telling us, you know, we could kill grandma, you know, if we And on her, you
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people just going along conforming,
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whatever they were told to do, just conform because the experts
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experts know everything, Rob?
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Anyone's qualified to tell us how everything should go and how dangerous and how unstable that was? Well,
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I'm telling this truth story. I'm the Mary Poppins that woke up in the twenty first century and took the red pill from the Matrix movie and
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used the spoonful of wonder to write these books.
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Mary Poppins, remember how she had a spoonful of sugar to help the medicine go down?
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got a spoonful of wonder
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to help people understand the World Economic Forum.
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Kids, you know what I mean? Someone's gotta tell them.
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Someone's You know, gonna tell that's we
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look at that. That's a large structure of powerful people who seek a form of dominion and control through conformity and through through
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people who are willing to give away
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something for safety or assurance
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you know. Especially freedom. Especially
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a reality. And it also plays out in relationships when you see the controllers, the manipulators,
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how much we as human beings
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are willing to give away just
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to feel safe and included,
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and how that's
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used against us.
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And so, do you create resilient kids in a world
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they're following everything we do and
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everything we say? And do you know, how do you create kids
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for the hour? How grow do up amazing kids
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can look that in the eye? See,
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part of what this is is that I just think there's some conversations
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you can't avoid.
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If your dog dies and gets run over, you don't just never tell your kid.
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Well, if you wake up in a world like we woke up in,
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those are conversations
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we have to talk about.
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And yet we must never doom our children or ourselves.
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And we must think that
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and be able to think,
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is wonder enough? Is that reality and what that means? Is that enough for a time that could possibly be this dark and scary
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and manipulative
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and corrupt,
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you know?
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so I begin to ask those questions
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because I think kids
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need and
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because true, real stories are healing to the soul.
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And it's funny because adults and kids will process
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deeply through my books and they'll find that there's emotional healing coming to them and their kids because
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of the way they are written. Hilarious, heart pumping, know,
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healthful, pushing books.
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Because you can, in a great story,
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you can work out a lot of your own issues.
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Another character,
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right?
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So that's part of what I love to see happen.
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And it's really hard nowadays because there's so many
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distortion
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for kids when it comes to education,
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when it comes to society,
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when it comes to social media,
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about how they have to behave, how they have to think,
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which is gonna make it worse for the most parents also, because the kids are normally
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less home,
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but at other people. And these other people decide what they're going to learn and how are they going to be indoctrinated by the things that the
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system wants.
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when you relate that to when they read the book and they're going to think for themselves and they know you have to believe in yourself
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and there are wonders out there and there is no fear.
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You to
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unlock that. Just like you say, you have to unlock that
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button like, okay, this is the button where I supposed to go normally, but wait a minute, hold on.
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There's something else. What causes this fear? What causes this disbelief
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eventually
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waking up or being aware of what's happening?
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exactly. And
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you know, part of my original story was this
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child that
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originally started my writing did not understand
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at the time
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what we were giving him
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that he would need in order to stand
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in a time of this great deception,
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control, manipulation,
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and God knows what else that
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is being cooked up out there. And
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the pain and the cost of being different. So my books are deeply,
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deeply about helping kids and families understand
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the importance of nonconformity.
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What does that look like to be a nonconforming,
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free thinking,
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not somebody who doesn't contribute to community?
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You know, we want to be connected is to a different thing, yeah. And
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I do give up my rights
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regularly to let someone go ahead of me in line, you know,
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or to give someone an opportunity to speak that I disagree with.
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Or, you know, I do lay down my life and my rights and my freedoms out of love and concern and caring for people. But that's not the same is that the same thing
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as being
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funneled into a single
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or a set of
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beliefs and
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series of propaganda and manipulative things to create behaviors in me that make me less of a threat
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to
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establishment
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forces?
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Do we have the guts to not conform?
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You know, we had to decide I decided I was going to be the one in the store without the mask. Sorry.
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And do I have the guts to be screamed at by the Karen with the two masks?
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You know, do I have the guts?
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And why? I had to know why. I had to think what I thought and learn what I needed to learn.
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that one image of the mask
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was probably one of the most powerful
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metaphors
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and symbols
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because it spoke to just about everything
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shutting you up,
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making you
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safe,
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right?
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No identity. No
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identity, no breath,
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and that
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one thing is such a power. So, that's a metaphor, right?
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I had to fly on a plane a couple of times, because I'd drive rather than get on a plane, I wore a big t shirt that said, Masks equal mind control.
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because, you know, you're not going to shut me up on this one. Right?
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But you take that as a symbol.
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What that did to people and how powerful that was
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and how specifically
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day to day people had to wake up and decide, Do I have the courage to leave my house and interact with the public without that on my face?
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To me that was a line in the sand.
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And you can tell immediately
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I did door knocking to find other people
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who were not afraid to be together during that time. And I can tell instantly based on how they responded to me when I was at their door without a mask on.
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And everyone goes, Well, that was then. No, but think about it. Think about something you get up every day willing to do
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when it makes you feel unsafe because everybody's screaming at you.
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Right? But the problem is also nobody
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questioned it. They just went with the flow of what they said without thinking like,
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what am I doing?
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Even back
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in the days when I was having some very critical questions about what's happening,
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people were just shutting that down, no, you just have to listen.
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You just have to do.
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No. I Yeah, don't the actors, have it's always all
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I'm sorry, got this wonderful sunlight. I'm going to look like I have a halo. Yeah, you're going to have a halo.
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It's
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following me around the room. There we go.
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Yes. And see, in my stories,
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which is
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look, I got a lot of ways I can talk to people about healing and wholeness. But I'm really concerned about the next generation right now because our kids believe a lot of stuff about what happened to them.
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And I want to be someone who tells them the truth about it in a way that doesn't terrorize them, but empowers them.
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And gets them thinking, You know what? I'm not alone.
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There is help. There is resource outside of the human condition
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for dealing with this kind of stuff.
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And so, in my books, this is one family in this color blind town
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that knows they're different, but they're not thinking too deeply about it. They just like color.
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What's the big I like color. You don't like color. You're gray, whatever. I'll plant flowers.
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They wake up one day and realize that everyone around them,
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there's reason why they don't see.
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Consequences And
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of seeing hit them. And they realize they're
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waking up. My family starts out in the books as Normies.
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They're just normies. They're like, Hey, okay, you do your thing, I'll do my thing. Until one day doing my thing is not okay.
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Because
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the establishment doesn't like that I'm not doing.
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That is a
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very deeply traumatizing
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thing to a human being to realize that just by you thinking and seeing and
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believing,
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you're in danger of the group.
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So,
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did it also help you
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writing this book,
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writing this down
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with your own, let's call it trauma about what happened to your family?
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It
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did because see,
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in the end, know, Esther, the trauma I talked about that got me writing Mrs. Amazing and the Seed,
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I had to have the courage
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to stand my ground with
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my son
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and
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wait it out and
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stay in
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faith essentially,
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and
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be willing
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to pay the cost,
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the price
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of giving him what we still believe was in his best interest. You know, people feel like this. They were raised in a church and they don't want to go anymore. Or, you you're this and that and I just throw it under the bus. Why? Because, again, that cultural
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thing is testing what we give our children at all times.
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Culture and establishment
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and media is testing
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everything
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you want to give your children.
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And so
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we to work
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that through. We had to grieve that. We had to work through I mean, and the good news is that our son
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came back one day and said, Oh my gosh, mom, now I get what you were trying to do.
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You know, but he's always the key to push back. So, you know, he's good because he keeps me, you know,
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really thinking and making sure that what I'm saying, you know, he's going to give me feedback, which is so healthy. But,
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you know,
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once you get to the point where you realize
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there is something so deeply disturbing about
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puppet master
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control within culture, that
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I better have a bigger story to tell my kids.
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And it better come out of a place that's going to give them
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joy and
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excitement and clarity,
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because
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otherwise
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they are going to live out of another story.
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They got a big fat ugly story in 2020.
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They taught us to live out of a horrendous set
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of lies.
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And
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somebody's got to tell our kids the truth about what happened in a way that's not like, Okay, now we're going to take apart communism or this ism or that. No, stay in metaphor.
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Stay in story.
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Because once you get those things in you, you will see it everywhere.
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And in my books, the family is like, Hey, is that weird? Why
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is this happening? Why are they doing that? And they awaken
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in the book.
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Then they begin other people around them begin to awaken.
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And it's very exciting what happens. And it's totally true. I mean, like, I am telling what
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continues
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to happen. I'm telling that.
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People who read these books,
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with their kids, are going to be like, Man,
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she prepped us for reality,
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but in a wondrous way. You
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know, like there's nobody else doing this, essentially, because you can write good and evil stories. But to unpack the specifics of what I'm doing is,
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it's just, I mean,
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Mary Poppinsy, you know, she's going
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to come in and give you the truth. And then by the time you're done, you're going to have a tea party on the ceiling. And that's what I do because
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joy is a powerful
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strength.
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Right? Absolutely.
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In the midst They took away so much things.
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They took away so much things and
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the control system, the mechanism where they worked with the psychology,
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what they did with the people.
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Nowadays you see everything's coming back when it comes to these
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courts, you know, with with Fauci and all these people that are
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they were the people that causes this shit. Right? Yep. Right.
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And I think I truly think that
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a lot of people woke up
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or were more
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aware of what's going on, especially the last couple of
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maybe two or three years because of the media and all the things that they tried to shut down,
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no matter what kind
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of topic that it is. They wanted to
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tell you, like, we're going to shut you down your channel. You can't talk about that stuff and all that stuff. But now all of a sudden it all comes out because they can't hold it.
511
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And I think if you
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get the awareness of the people about what the hell is going on with so many things, it's not only just like you said, 2020, it's all these things combined together. Like
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00:29:50.725 --> 00:29:51.285
what
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00:29:51.540 --> 00:29:54.580
a shit show. Let's some popcorn,
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00:29:54.660 --> 00:29:59.780
let's get a beer and just watch it unfold. I know. Because it's
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amazing.
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It's amazing. And it's astonishing how many people are still living in this fear mongery
518
00:30:06.535 --> 00:30:07.575
that they try What to
519
00:30:08.935 --> 00:30:15.815
was it like a few months ago, like with this ship, the hunter virus, and it's gonna kill everyone over Nothing.
520
00:30:16.215 --> 00:30:24.190
All of a sudden, nobody's gonna buy it. And I think just like you said, when you're writing a book, child's book, and people
521
00:30:24.350 --> 00:30:28.909
or children reading it and thinking for themselves, like, a minute,
522
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I'm the one who sees the color.
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I'm the one who wants to think different. I want to, you know, I want to have this wonder in my life and I can choose for the wonder. Right. That's amazing, Julie. Yeah. That's amazing. And you see,
524
00:30:43.465 --> 00:30:48.739
you know, I dare to think, believe, and experience that wonder, the supernatural
525
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reality of wonder,
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it's real. So I'm not creating,
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you know,
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00:30:55.700 --> 00:30:57.299
the Emerald City here, you know.
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00:30:58.355 --> 00:31:08.835
Just like C. S. Lewis, when he was talking, he was talking about very, very real things. He was using metaphor to help people understand something that's even more real than our realm. And that's what the realm of wonder is.
530
00:31:10.130 --> 00:31:13.810
And I take this family through every single thing that
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we experienced
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from like 2019
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through,
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you know, to present day,
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00:31:20.850 --> 00:31:21.970
but using metaphor.
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So,
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00:31:23.414 --> 00:31:25.014
and you've to ask yourself,
538
00:31:25.335 --> 00:31:30.294
how the heck am I going to create kids that I can even talk to about this?
539
00:31:30.615 --> 00:31:37.570
And most people just want to memory hole it and go, well, I just don't want to feel that again. And I know it was horrible. I mean, I
540
00:31:37.970 --> 00:31:39.489
was shocked
541
00:31:40.049 --> 00:31:42.849
at everyone around me who was just, well,
542
00:31:43.090 --> 00:31:51.089
God would want you to wear a mask. God, you know, if you are really a this or if you really care about people, you are going to take that thing and you are going to jab yourself.
543
00:31:51.490 --> 00:31:52.210
You just want to go,
544
00:31:52.985 --> 00:32:03.545
you are scaring me now. I mean, scary. I was shocked at the people that just went right down that thing. And so in the books I unpack how does that happen?
545
00:32:04.025 --> 00:32:04.985
Is going on And behind the
546
00:32:05.785 --> 00:32:14.220
this family is discovering it, How systems work. How tyranny works. How propaganda works. So remember I told you color
547
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is
548
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so important.
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00:32:17.020 --> 00:32:24.945
And they're behind the scenes. And I gave you some pictures and you might want to throw some in here at some point. But the evil elders of the order,
550
00:32:25.185 --> 00:32:28.465
they want everybody to conform to the prescribed
551
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order operation.
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The poo.
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The
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poo?
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They want everyone conforming to the poo.
556
00:32:41.059 --> 00:32:46.659
And so you got to have a great sense of humor, right? You got to laugh. You got to have so much fun when you read a book.
557
00:32:47.140 --> 00:32:53.460
Anyway, you know, and they hate it when people see color because people who can see color are not far from wonder.
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People who experience wonder won't conform to the poo.
559
00:32:59.965 --> 00:33:02.925
The kids are having so much fun reading all this stuff.
560
00:33:03.325 --> 00:33:08.605
What happens if this one family does so many extraordinary things just by
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questioning and experiencing
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wonder. What happens if other people in the town of Greystone Heights start seeing color?
563
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Well, the elders of the orders, they say, You know what?
564
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We won't tell them they haven't seen color, we'll just tell them what it means.
565
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And they tell everybody that color
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is a symptom of a plague that could kill you.
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You have to wear gray glasses
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on your face at all times to protect you from seeing even a speck of color or you could die.
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My god. It reminds me a little
570
00:33:45.970 --> 00:33:46.610
bit of
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00:33:47.810 --> 00:33:50.530
what's that movie with the glasses? They lie?
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00:33:51.330 --> 00:33:55.664
Oh, there's several of them out there. Yeah, where the guy sees the
573
00:33:55.905 --> 00:33:57.985
demons, the puppet masters. Yeah,
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yeah, exactly. They
575
00:34:01.105 --> 00:34:03.024
don't want anyone to see color, right?
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They want you color blind because you'll conform.
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So the first step is to tell everybody color could kill you. It's part of a disease. It's now come to our town. So we got to have mandates to protect y'all from this disease. So you got to put this thing on your face.
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And I even have a character named Karen who wears two pairs of glasses
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just to make sure she never sees a speck of color. It's hilarious.
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Evil actually is
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kind of so funny and silly, you know, sometimes,
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where they go with it. Anyways,
583
00:34:33.875 --> 00:34:39.420
well, so what happens when the family sits down and they're like, You know, it's really weird because
584
00:34:40.059 --> 00:34:41.579
could color really kill you?
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00:34:41.980 --> 00:34:49.259
Is there really anything you could just slap on your face that would protect you from a microscopic biohazard? Probably not. And so the kid in the family
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a newspaper
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to
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talk about this. Well, what could possibly happen, Rob, if you're the one family in
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the gray town that starts a newspaper that's
590
00:35:02.244 --> 00:35:07.660
challenging the narrative? What could possibly happen? Do you think they went through things like we went through?
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Yeah. So
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00:35:10.460 --> 00:35:13.020
now we're unpacking the trauma of propaganda
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and free speech.
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00:35:15.340 --> 00:35:20.700
I unpack in a previous book, abuse of science, the corruption of science, the corruption of education.
595
00:35:20.780 --> 00:35:24.805
All this family's just kind of like, so they start having these conversations.
596
00:35:25.204 --> 00:35:26.484
Well, what is In
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book three,
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propaganda's called I call it bombastic
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baffle gab.
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00:35:32.885 --> 00:35:35.204
Bombastic who? Baffle gab.
601
00:35:35.730 --> 00:35:37.490
Baffle gab. Wow.
602
00:35:37.730 --> 00:35:40.610
That's actually really fun words for propaganda.
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Book three is Constance
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00:35:43.890 --> 00:35:44.930
in Charleston
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00:35:45.090 --> 00:35:51.010
and the Bombastic Baffle gab. So we start, then kids have to start going. Love it. They're having a conversation.
606
00:35:51.414 --> 00:35:55.575
Why are they telling us saying the same thing? Why can't you ask any questions?
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00:35:55.815 --> 00:35:57.015
What is propaganda?
608
00:35:57.015 --> 00:36:01.974
And so, we start unpacking that with these fun words and great vocabulary and this experience
609
00:36:02.535 --> 00:36:05.494
and the cost they pay for telling the truth.
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Not
611
00:36:07.020 --> 00:36:08.380
pulling any punches here.
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How does wonder, how does this realm of the supernatural interact with what they're dealing with?
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And so,
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00:36:15.580 --> 00:36:18.700
in this book, where they're telling everybody there's a plague
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00:36:19.855 --> 00:36:22.495
that could kill you because really remember that they want
616
00:36:23.215 --> 00:36:27.135
they just want to get everybody funneled into a control system
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00:36:27.695 --> 00:36:36.650
like we experienced, right? But they're using it through this plague, the color disease, you know. And so they have a center for color control
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00:36:37.290 --> 00:36:38.890
called the CCC.
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And guess who's
620
00:36:41.530 --> 00:36:44.970
the commissioner of the Center for Color Control in my book?
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Ms.
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Anthropomorphia Slouchy.
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Anthropomorphia.
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00:36:53.045 --> 00:37:00.085
Love that. The commissioner of the Center for Color Control, the CCC, and she gives everybody the rules to stay safe.
625
00:37:01.250 --> 00:37:03.970
You know, and this is where it touches
626
00:37:04.210 --> 00:37:08.050
home. Like if you lived through these years, you'll go, wow.
627
00:37:08.849 --> 00:37:13.570
Thirty years from now, people will pick up these books and go, Oh my gosh, that is exactly what we went through.
628
00:37:14.355 --> 00:37:17.315
Yeah. And then in Book four, what happens when these
629
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elders
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roll out the safety drops to make you permanently color blind and immune to color?
631
00:37:25.235 --> 00:37:28.195
What if some of those drops blind some kids?
632
00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:31.600
That's exactly what we're living through, the fallout
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of the abuse
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00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:35.360
of medical procedures
635
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:36.480
keep How people in
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00:37:37.120 --> 00:37:39.840
do you talk to your kids about that? Are you talking to your kids right now?
637
00:37:43.464 --> 00:37:46.585
About I'm asking your audience. Are any of you seriously
638
00:37:46.825 --> 00:37:48.345
talking to your kids
639
00:37:48.585 --> 00:37:51.625
about, you know, depopulation,
640
00:37:52.425 --> 00:37:57.065
propaganda, mind control? Really, are you having those conversations with your kids without terrifying them?
641
00:37:57.385 --> 00:37:57.545
Well,
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00:37:59.010 --> 00:37:59.490
I
643
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can help you.
644
00:38:03.810 --> 00:38:07.490
Because Mary, the red pill Mary Poppins has the spoonful of wonder.
645
00:38:08.210 --> 00:38:09.730
Then what happens when,
646
00:38:10.050 --> 00:38:10.690
the,
647
00:38:11.410 --> 00:38:13.090
when you have serious
648
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injuries
649
00:38:15.245 --> 00:38:22.045
that don't go away with a flick of a and they all lived happy ever after in your book. How
650
00:38:22.125 --> 00:38:29.005
do we have these conversations with our kids? And then what when they change the narrative and they say, you know what, that
651
00:38:30.060 --> 00:38:38.060
disease thing isn't working to terrorize any people anymore. Why don't we pull out our next narrative, you know, like the whole planet is going to burn up in
652
00:38:38.940 --> 00:38:40.780
climate alteration,
653
00:38:40.780 --> 00:38:41.420
you know?
654
00:38:41.980 --> 00:38:54.135
But don't worry because we got you. We've got the system that's going to keep everybody safe with the same amount of money coming into your house. You're going to love the bug sandwiches we give you for lunch. You know? I mean, right? How
655
00:38:55.015 --> 00:38:56.055
Wake up!
656
00:38:57.255 --> 00:38:57.895
But see,
657
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I these are amazing
658
00:39:03.160 --> 00:39:04.119
narratives.
659
00:39:05.319 --> 00:39:09.240
And when you and the people who read my books, the kids just
660
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:19.025
eat them up. And the parents do because they're conversing and they're having conversations and they're getting That was my question. Yeah, just like how do the parents react because
661
00:39:19.105 --> 00:39:22.065
the kids come home or they are at home,
662
00:39:23.505 --> 00:39:25.825
they're reading it, but probably parents
663
00:39:26.040 --> 00:39:28.600
read it too. Like, woah, wait a minute.
664
00:39:29.080 --> 00:39:33.720
This is something deeper. This is not just a childhood. It's for everyone
665
00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:34.840
to
666
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:42.015
give them something to think about. You know, you question everything, right? Mean, And I have some what's study guides for your parent, you know,
667
00:39:42.575 --> 00:39:44.015
help your
668
00:39:44.415 --> 00:39:46.095
kids kind of process the information.
669
00:39:46.415 --> 00:39:54.720
But they're super, I mean, look, I write on a lot of levels And I love kids stories. I love a great kids book.
670
00:39:55.359 --> 00:39:57.520
And when you can get the
671
00:39:58.319 --> 00:40:01.040
darkness and heavy weighty
672
00:40:01.200 --> 00:40:05.759
ideas out there with that spoonful of sugar, with that spoonful of wonder, with a laugh,
673
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with
674
00:40:07.835 --> 00:40:09.275
crazy characters,
675
00:40:09.275 --> 00:40:13.755
and you can look the thing right in the eye. Do you, you know,
676
00:40:14.474 --> 00:40:17.994
I hate Halloween, but the one thing I used to like about it as a kid was,
677
00:40:18.860 --> 00:40:19.820
as
678
00:40:20.060 --> 00:40:24.940
a kid when you thought about it, you thought, well it's all fake, I can look the ghost in the eye tonight.
679
00:40:25.260 --> 00:40:34.035
Right? Now you kind of know there's more of the dark side. But, you know, there's that kids love to laugh at what terrified them. And
680
00:40:34.035 --> 00:40:37.715
we as adults need to have to, we need to be able to laugh
681
00:40:38.035 --> 00:40:51.210
and go, that is the stupidest thing I ever heard. That is so dumb. Why don't we go see some color? Let's look at, you know, let's look at the alternative to the central narrative we're being funneled into. So laughter is healing, wonder is healing,
682
00:40:51.370 --> 00:40:57.450
story is healing. Because do you know what the single most significant
683
00:40:57.450 --> 00:41:00.410
thing that will determine how you do in life is?
684
00:41:04.065 --> 00:41:05.745
Single most important determinative
685
00:41:05.745 --> 00:41:14.545
thing about how you turn out in life is the story you believe about yourself. Oh, wow. Yeah. And the world around you and your purpose and all that.
686
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:20.720
So you better be a big, beautiful, bold, amazing story that helps you decide
687
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:24.560
you're willing to pay the price to go through the crap to get to the wonder.
688
00:41:25.680 --> 00:41:31.165
Right? A lot of people just aren't willing to pay the price because they don't have a big enough thing they're shooting for.
689
00:41:31.805 --> 00:41:42.684
Or believing They're just big beautiful Right, yeah. The true things. I'm not blowing smoke up anybody's shorts here. I mean, I'm telling the truth. But I'm also telling the truth about wonder and what it represents.
690
00:41:45.230 --> 00:41:46.510
So you're
691
00:41:46.510 --> 00:41:49.230
now almost five books in, am I right?
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00:41:50.109 --> 00:41:51.070
The first
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00:41:51.789 --> 00:41:52.990
series is
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10 to 14 ages, but roughly in adults and that's,
695
00:41:56.829 --> 00:42:02.515
is five books. And then I just am finishing book six, is the beginning of the You series.
696
00:42:04.275 --> 00:42:05.714
The beginning of the You?
697
00:42:05.795 --> 00:42:06.835
Young adult.
698
00:42:07.714 --> 00:42:09.635
That's like junior high high school.
699
00:42:10.355 --> 00:42:10.994
Right, okay.
700
00:42:12.890 --> 00:42:18.890
Because, and this is where I get into even more deeply the trauma healing things of the psyche of
701
00:42:19.050 --> 00:42:20.970
teenagers and adults
702
00:42:21.210 --> 00:42:23.530
and how these bad ideas,
703
00:42:24.090 --> 00:42:26.010
you know, are so soul marring,
704
00:42:26.170 --> 00:42:26.490
right?
705
00:42:27.395 --> 00:42:36.115
And so there has to be and also along the way, one of my beautiful home school kids was sexually abused by another home schooler. So,
706
00:42:36.435 --> 00:42:37.235
I mean,
707
00:42:37.795 --> 00:42:39.075
this is part of our story.
708
00:42:40.329 --> 00:42:43.770
And so, I've, we've had, in addition to my own issues,
709
00:42:44.410 --> 00:42:48.410
you know, in addition to the, you know, the 2020s,
710
00:42:49.369 --> 00:42:51.450
we've had to deal with some very
711
00:42:52.730 --> 00:42:53.930
utterly
712
00:42:56.375 --> 00:42:58.135
soul destroying pain.
713
00:42:58.455 --> 00:43:04.135
And I don't think it, I think probably what we've dealt with is nothing compared to what a lot of people deal with. Right.
714
00:43:05.175 --> 00:43:06.215
But
715
00:43:06.215 --> 00:43:08.040
it's abusive. It's
716
00:43:10.200 --> 00:43:15.960
targeting the psyche of the people, the mind of the people to think different, to
717
00:43:16.520 --> 00:43:17.480
be normal,
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00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:18.600
whatever that means.
719
00:43:19.494 --> 00:43:20.055
And,
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00:43:20.375 --> 00:43:25.255
when you're going to question that, you're going to realize you're not normal because you're thinking,
721
00:43:27.575 --> 00:43:29.015
a little bit more,
722
00:43:30.214 --> 00:43:34.775
not conspiracy, but just like thinking of
723
00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:43.560
what's the question and where can I ask some questions about this question? Right? People don't do that. And what do you think is the main reason that
724
00:43:45.720 --> 00:43:50.475
we went through that? So I think part of it is the education system for sure.
725
00:43:51.115 --> 00:43:52.955
Part of it is religion,
726
00:43:53.115 --> 00:43:55.195
politics, all that stuff together.
727
00:43:55.515 --> 00:43:56.235
But
728
00:43:57.275 --> 00:43:58.475
do you think that we
729
00:43:59.275 --> 00:44:01.994
maybe back in the days in the sixties or seventies,
730
00:44:02.500 --> 00:44:04.340
had more awareness
731
00:44:04.340 --> 00:44:08.900
of this kind of stuff? Or is it been integrated like propaganda that we
732
00:44:09.940 --> 00:44:11.700
do not have something
733
00:44:11.700 --> 00:44:30.810
to hold back on when it comes to the children? Because just like I said before, it seems that we have to choose to let our children be educated by other people. And we do know, we don't know what they're being educated, what kind of belief system that they're going to to have.
734
00:44:31.049 --> 00:44:31.609
Right?
735
00:44:33.130 --> 00:44:40.089
Well, it depends on how far you wanna go to the to origins and roots. I mean, first of all, you have to deal with the there really is good and evil.
736
00:44:40.569 --> 00:44:41.609
And
737
00:44:41.609 --> 00:44:42.569
it and it's personal.
738
00:44:43.485 --> 00:44:45.325
Like, evil's personal.
739
00:44:45.805 --> 00:44:46.845
He has a name.
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00:44:48.285 --> 00:44:50.285
Know, good has a he has a name.
741
00:44:51.085 --> 00:44:52.125
Right, And
742
00:44:52.525 --> 00:44:55.645
you got to really deal with that because it's uncomfortable.
743
00:44:56.690 --> 00:44:58.690
But in my books
744
00:44:58.850 --> 00:45:01.730
and in my life and experience, you start where you are
745
00:45:02.050 --> 00:45:02.930
and you
746
00:45:04.370 --> 00:45:05.330
have to decide,
747
00:45:06.850 --> 00:45:08.850
what's it worth to me to become really free?
748
00:45:10.210 --> 00:45:11.810
Do I want to live like this forever?
749
00:45:12.894 --> 00:45:20.815
And I got to the point where it was like, whatever it takes. I cannot afford to be a sick, broken, depressed, terrified person. I can't.
750
00:45:20.974 --> 00:45:23.775
And the other thing is you got to ask yourself,
751
00:45:24.894 --> 00:45:26.815
what would your kids give to see you free?
752
00:45:27.640 --> 00:45:28.680
Because
753
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:31.320
I'm going to guarantee you
754
00:45:31.720 --> 00:45:33.560
that if you're depressed,
755
00:45:33.560 --> 00:45:35.560
upset, traumatized adult,
756
00:45:35.720 --> 00:45:38.200
your kids want you to get well more than you do.
757
00:45:39.160 --> 00:45:44.935
Yeah, you're to reflect to them, right? They're absorb going it as maybe as even
758
00:45:45.335 --> 00:45:47.975
that's the norm. That's normal. Yeah, so
759
00:45:49.015 --> 00:45:58.870
I think your original question was, where did it come from? Well, I have done some serious thinking about this, but this whole takedown of culture and programming people for a certain set of narratives,
760
00:45:58.950 --> 00:45:59.590
I mean,
761
00:46:00.790 --> 00:46:08.285
go back to the Titanic, for gosh sakes. You know what I mean? Like, go back to There are so many things in history that I know. Go back to,
762
00:46:09.325 --> 00:46:11.805
know, the the CIA in
763
00:46:12.045 --> 00:46:20.125
in the nineteen sixties, and the bringing in the drug and occult trade into The United States on purpose, you know? And it's interesting because
764
00:46:20.670 --> 00:46:27.470
the degree to which people were agrarian and at home with their families and working together gave them a resilience and an independence.
765
00:46:27.869 --> 00:46:30.510
But the minute you can get people funneled in the classrooms,
766
00:46:30.910 --> 00:46:38.195
aged, you know, a certain age, you're gonna stick all the people the same age, don't know anything else, but would all the other people their same age know?
767
00:46:38.515 --> 00:46:41.875
You know, and then teach them to be industrialized.
768
00:46:41.954 --> 00:46:44.835
The education systems are systems.
769
00:46:45.474 --> 00:46:47.635
You know, it's applauding
770
00:46:49.450 --> 00:46:51.050
journey toward tyranny.
771
00:46:51.690 --> 00:46:54.170
And evil is so calculated.
772
00:46:54.170 --> 00:47:02.570
It's willing to take, you know, a couple thousand years to finish what it wants to start, Right, you yeah, And so we have to have that same kind of resilience
773
00:47:02.730 --> 00:47:03.610
that
774
00:47:04.335 --> 00:47:06.575
what I spend time doing today
775
00:47:06.815 --> 00:47:14.175
that breaks me out of that matrix is worth it and I will just take another step tomorrow. You you are not going to stick me back in that hole. You are not, And
776
00:47:14.895 --> 00:47:18.095
so this is what I write about. These are my characters.
777
00:47:18.255 --> 00:47:21.250
This is the family. This is pain. This is the reality.
778
00:47:21.970 --> 00:47:24.290
Because I want people to know they are not alone
779
00:47:25.089 --> 00:47:29.810
and we are all sort of waking up to a really interesting story.
780
00:47:30.130 --> 00:47:34.210
A really powerful I happen to think we live at the most amazing time ever.
781
00:47:34.835 --> 00:47:36.435
I think we are in a huge
782
00:47:36.835 --> 00:47:38.035
great awakening.
783
00:47:38.194 --> 00:47:41.315
But usually before a great awakening there is a rude
784
00:47:41.954 --> 00:47:42.915
awakening.
785
00:47:43.394 --> 00:47:43.795
And
786
00:47:44.755 --> 00:47:45.315
so
787
00:47:45.954 --> 00:47:47.555
it is like you got an alcoholic.
788
00:47:48.900 --> 00:47:50.740
When do they decide they want help?
789
00:47:51.060 --> 00:47:55.300
When they bottom out and wind up throwing up on the carpet and nobody is there to clean up for them.
790
00:47:56.900 --> 00:47:58.580
There has been a sort of a
791
00:47:58.820 --> 00:47:59.940
catharsis
792
00:48:00.180 --> 00:48:01.140
realizing
793
00:48:02.015 --> 00:48:03.935
that we are waking up in
794
00:48:04.415 --> 00:48:05.535
our own vomit,
795
00:48:06.095 --> 00:48:07.375
know, Right, as a right.
796
00:48:08.335 --> 00:48:08.975
Going,
797
00:48:09.295 --> 00:48:11.135
Wow, I guess maybe,
798
00:48:11.775 --> 00:48:14.975
and to the degree to which you are taught to be docile.
799
00:48:17.099 --> 00:48:19.420
Now be nice. Don't ask any They
800
00:48:20.299 --> 00:48:23.020
would never do that. Would they do that for you? You
801
00:48:23.900 --> 00:48:26.619
know, your doctor would never, you know,
802
00:48:27.180 --> 00:48:38.945
do that. Of course not. You know, your priest would never sexually abuse your kid. Never. That couldn't happen, you know. And yet, I'll tell you, you get to the point where you get free and you get whole and healed.
803
00:48:39.184 --> 00:48:45.680
And that's a Him thing. That's a God thing, too, integrating into all this. You know, you just realize
804
00:48:47.040 --> 00:48:49.120
no matter what they throw at me today,
805
00:48:49.839 --> 00:48:51.200
I've got a bigger resource.
806
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:55.200
And this is what I'm teaching my kids to live out of that resource.
807
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:56.480
Teaching my kids
808
00:48:56.845 --> 00:48:57.485
that
809
00:49:00.045 --> 00:49:01.005
we're
810
00:49:01.005 --> 00:49:02.365
the winners in the story.
811
00:49:03.885 --> 00:49:15.920
How does You that know, you're asking a lot. These are deep, deep questions and you wrestle through because every family has their you know, I taught on trauma healing and took people through trauma healing at homeschool conferences.
812
00:49:16.720 --> 00:49:17.280
And,
813
00:49:18.160 --> 00:49:23.200
you know, you think the homeschoolers are sitting at home in their cute little, you know, whatever. But the amount of trauma
814
00:49:24.615 --> 00:49:25.175
in
815
00:49:25.735 --> 00:49:26.375
a subset
816
00:49:27.095 --> 00:49:29.655
of the culture that you would think was
817
00:49:30.775 --> 00:49:31.655
protected,
818
00:49:32.055 --> 00:49:33.255
and perfect,
819
00:49:33.335 --> 00:49:34.375
and churchy,
820
00:49:34.375 --> 00:49:35.415
and fine,
821
00:49:35.415 --> 00:49:35.975
and you know,
822
00:49:37.109 --> 00:49:37.990
it's
823
00:49:37.990 --> 00:49:39.030
jaw dropping.
824
00:49:39.430 --> 00:49:42.390
So, we better have, you know, what do you think? Do you think
825
00:49:43.430 --> 00:49:44.310
it's time
826
00:49:45.029 --> 00:49:45.990
to really
827
00:49:46.630 --> 00:49:48.070
lay some foundations
828
00:49:48.150 --> 00:49:51.109
for this, for parents to get whole and heal and well,
829
00:49:51.755 --> 00:49:54.155
to bring stories that can handle this.
830
00:49:54.475 --> 00:49:55.995
And they're not just, you know,
831
00:49:57.595 --> 00:50:01.995
the knight on the white horse who fights the bad dragon. You know what I mean? Like that has, are,
832
00:50:03.275 --> 00:50:04.555
good, good, good, but
833
00:50:05.355 --> 00:50:06.875
my sores are more pointed
834
00:50:07.110 --> 00:50:09.190
because I think it's wake up time.
835
00:50:09.750 --> 00:50:10.630
Right.
836
00:50:10.630 --> 00:50:21.110
And I think a lot of people do not realize that there's also generational trauma. So it's not only the kids that suffer from it, but it's the parents that suffer from it. It's the great, the grandparents.
837
00:50:22.015 --> 00:50:23.375
So if you are,
838
00:50:24.655 --> 00:50:30.575
I've been on a journey for my trauma, but then I realized like, wait a minute, it's not only my monkey,
839
00:50:30.815 --> 00:50:35.935
it's all fucking circus that's been around for centuries that I have to clean Right?
840
00:50:36.849 --> 00:50:37.970
So
841
00:50:38.609 --> 00:50:39.890
that's
842
00:50:39.890 --> 00:50:42.450
the thing that you have to realise like, okay,
843
00:50:42.690 --> 00:50:43.490
I can
844
00:50:44.130 --> 00:50:50.450
It's like a car. If you have a flat tyre, you can repair the flat tyre. But if there's something in
845
00:50:51.250 --> 00:50:51.730
the engine,
846
00:50:52.275 --> 00:50:54.915
it's just not the spark plugs.
847
00:50:55.075 --> 00:51:04.835
It's the whole engine you have to check out if there's not going to be a problem afterwards, because you just can fix it on the surface, but it is so deeply,
848
00:51:04.994 --> 00:51:06.115
so deeply woven.
849
00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:07.320
And
850
00:51:07.720 --> 00:51:10.360
especially when it comes in to indoctrination
851
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:13.000
and belief system that people believe in.
852
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:16.200
And just like you said, like, you have to
853
00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:17.560
tell your story
854
00:51:19.005 --> 00:51:27.805
with the full belief that you are living the best life or the wonders that are unfolding for you. But you have to believe it because otherwise you're going to be stuck
855
00:51:28.045 --> 00:51:30.125
into something that's
856
00:51:30.125 --> 00:51:37.680
not going to bring you very far in this world, especially in this world where so many fear and darkness is going to be
857
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:40.720
projected on you, right? Yeah.
858
00:51:42.160 --> 00:51:46.960
And the way I used to say it is fear has told you a story about yourself, and it's a lie.
859
00:51:48.365 --> 00:51:56.525
So what's the true story? And it's got to be bigger than your emotions and your feelings and your meditations and your personal, like, positive statements.
860
00:51:57.085 --> 00:51:59.244
I really believe, you know, there's an author
861
00:52:00.010 --> 00:52:01.530
of creation and
862
00:52:02.090 --> 00:52:08.330
he is writing a story in us. So ultimately it gets connected to the realm where he lives, that wonder realm.
863
00:52:09.770 --> 00:52:12.970
But I am allowing people to come into that as a journey
864
00:52:13.290 --> 00:52:13.690
because,
865
00:52:15.145 --> 00:52:17.465
and my family in the story does,
866
00:52:17.705 --> 00:52:18.265
they
867
00:52:18.505 --> 00:52:24.345
know wonder is real and they feel it and it's a thing. They know it makes them different. But they are asking a lot of questions
868
00:52:25.225 --> 00:52:28.505
and they are unfolding it. And I think that
869
00:52:28.630 --> 00:52:32.390
it's important to let people on a journey of awakening
870
00:52:33.270 --> 00:52:34.230
wake up
871
00:52:34.550 --> 00:52:36.230
and ask and
872
00:52:36.630 --> 00:52:37.350
question
873
00:52:37.830 --> 00:52:39.110
the spiritualities
874
00:52:39.430 --> 00:52:40.070
and
875
00:52:40.390 --> 00:52:43.430
the source of them and good and evil and
876
00:52:43.830 --> 00:52:47.585
the cost of going one direction versus another spiritually.
877
00:52:48.305 --> 00:52:51.265
And so I wrote books that were for everybody,
878
00:52:51.825 --> 00:52:56.865
you know, on that process of awakening to ask universal questions
879
00:52:56.589 --> 00:52:58.430
and see consequences
880
00:52:58.910 --> 00:53:05.150
and help kids and families deal with very deep, deep subjects. Because when you come home to tell your kid, well the
881
00:53:05.950 --> 00:53:07.230
dog got run over,
882
00:53:09.150 --> 00:53:10.910
that's a game So changer for the whole
883
00:53:11.845 --> 00:53:14.165
I wanted to give people stories
884
00:53:14.885 --> 00:53:18.885
and experiences of wholeness and healing within books
885
00:53:19.685 --> 00:53:20.965
so that
886
00:53:22.005 --> 00:53:33.830
I come along, you know, in the story Mary Poppins has to take over a big job, but essentially she is trying to turn it back over to the parents in the end. She is saying, I know you have a really hard thing to do.
887
00:53:34.230 --> 00:53:35.670
Your family is in chaos.
888
00:53:35.910 --> 00:53:44.715
Mom is distracted. She is politically active out there in the story. If you remember Mary Poppins, she was marching around, completely oblivious, she was in her politics.
889
00:53:45.115 --> 00:53:47.435
Dad's a banker in the British Right. Banking
890
00:53:50.395 --> 00:53:55.115
Oh my gosh. That's right there, stop right there in this story.
891
00:53:55.950 --> 00:54:00.350
Something is going on with this family. And their kids are out of control and they
892
00:54:00.750 --> 00:54:03.470
keep chasing nannies out and
893
00:54:04.430 --> 00:54:05.790
the room is a mess
894
00:54:06.109 --> 00:54:07.869
and in comes this character
895
00:54:08.515 --> 00:54:11.795
who messes things up a bit because she's teaching them
896
00:54:12.115 --> 00:54:13.235
the new words.
897
00:54:13.795 --> 00:54:15.315
Supercalifragilistic.
898
00:54:15.315 --> 00:54:17.715
She's taking them into chalk pictures.
899
00:54:18.035 --> 00:54:20.435
She's
900
00:54:20.435 --> 00:54:23.635
blowing up their tight little
901
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:24.640
denial system
902
00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:28.240
and reaching the hearts of the kids.
903
00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:29.360
But
904
00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:32.400
in the end she turns it back over to the parents and says,
905
00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:35.040
Are you awake enough yet? Do you see what's happening?
906
00:54:35.685 --> 00:54:37.285
And that is my job.
907
00:54:38.085 --> 00:54:40.245
My job is to bring stories
908
00:54:41.125 --> 00:54:43.525
of supernatural goodness and truth
909
00:54:44.005 --> 00:54:46.725
into systems that need to be,
910
00:54:47.125 --> 00:54:53.120
have you seen this? Are you aware? Do you know what is happening to your kid? Do you know what is going on? Here is what is going on.
911
00:54:53.600 --> 00:54:55.600
This might shake you up a little bit,
912
00:54:56.080 --> 00:55:00.000
but stick with me because we are going to jump into a chalk painting
913
00:55:00.160 --> 00:55:02.240
and we are going to see things never saw.
914
00:55:02.560 --> 00:55:08.665
If parents are smart they will read the books with their kids or get the study guides and start talking to them about it.
915
00:55:09.145 --> 00:55:14.345
I have families that do it as a family read through, you know, and I have a lot a Bible study?
916
00:55:15.545 --> 00:55:16.585
A yeah,
917
00:55:17.465 --> 00:55:21.330
100%. I have audio books. So sometimes, maybe
918
00:55:21.970 --> 00:55:24.530
you listen to an audio book and you make your kid read it.
919
00:55:25.970 --> 00:55:27.650
The point is that
920
00:55:31.325 --> 00:55:38.045
I love some of the great new writers now that are, you know, in the Christian field writing really good books,
921
00:55:38.204 --> 00:55:44.480
but nobody's doing what I'm doing. Nobody's head on going right to the heart of the beast right now.
922
00:55:45.280 --> 00:55:46.720
And they're not even hiding
923
00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:47.760
it.
924
00:55:48.240 --> 00:55:50.640
They say, we want you to, you
925
00:55:51.040 --> 00:56:01.905
won't own anything and you'll be fine with that? They tell you you're going to eat bugs, when they tell you you're going to have a universal income and we're going to control where you go and you're going be in fifteen minute cities and then parts of the,
926
00:56:02.385 --> 00:56:04.705
you know, then fires break Yeah,
927
00:56:06.065 --> 00:56:11.025
you know, they're not hiding it. So why do you think that so many adults
928
00:56:11.330 --> 00:56:13.810
lose their sense of imagination
929
00:56:13.970 --> 00:56:16.050
and wonder as they grow older?
930
00:56:16.370 --> 00:56:18.370
Because somehow it seems like
931
00:56:18.610 --> 00:56:19.250
kids,
932
00:56:20.290 --> 00:56:24.785
when they are young, they don't have anything that distracts them from being a kid.
933
00:56:25.424 --> 00:56:34.785
Right? But as we grow older, we're going to have all this fear of porn and all that stuff that's been projected to us. Some people see through it like us,
934
00:56:35.105 --> 00:56:40.030
or, you know, probably still we're going to be indoctrinated by some things, But
935
00:56:41.230 --> 00:56:41.950
what
936
00:56:42.349 --> 00:56:43.150
kind of
937
00:56:44.910 --> 00:56:45.630
what do Yeah. You think that
938
00:56:46.589 --> 00:56:48.109
I slowly went to sleep.
939
00:56:49.309 --> 00:56:50.190
I felt
940
00:56:51.230 --> 00:56:54.465
a lot like Sleeping Beauty. Just take, you know, or
941
00:56:55.664 --> 00:56:58.625
Snow White, take the apple, get drugged, go to sleep.
942
00:56:58.944 --> 00:57:01.025
And this is a pain response.
943
00:57:01.265 --> 00:57:07.265
Numb out, numb out. And you know, for us we got color television in the 1970s.
944
00:57:07.265 --> 00:57:07.905
Wow,
945
00:57:08.065 --> 00:57:12.460
you know. I come home from school feeling so depressed and disconnected.
946
00:57:12.540 --> 00:57:15.420
And my parents really didn't know at that point what
947
00:57:15.900 --> 00:57:16.780
media
948
00:57:16.780 --> 00:57:17.580
could do.
949
00:57:18.460 --> 00:57:21.580
Letting your kids sit in front of the television, it literally just
950
00:57:22.540 --> 00:57:24.220
drugs you. Television.
951
00:57:24.915 --> 00:57:27.395
Yeah, exactly. Tell A vision. It's a drug.
952
00:57:28.195 --> 00:57:35.475
I still do that occasionally now. When I am just at the end, I'll just like, okay, can we watch 12 movies right now?
953
00:57:36.195 --> 00:57:46.210
Right. Some do it now. Some people actually might take a walk and go take a nap. That would be good. It's sort of part of our culture. But I really believe
954
00:57:46.370 --> 00:57:46.930
that
955
00:57:47.890 --> 00:57:50.450
pain and lack of connection
956
00:57:51.010 --> 00:57:52.290
and lack of
957
00:57:52.530 --> 00:58:02.155
knowing true wonder and keeping it alive and having that environment with people around you who are drawing you out into that. We all just want to go to sleep.
958
00:58:02.475 --> 00:58:08.075
We just want to go to sleep. We just want it to be better. And it became a brain training exercise and then
959
00:58:08.660 --> 00:58:11.700
distraction. You know, so it's amazing
960
00:58:12.020 --> 00:58:13.140
strategy,
961
00:58:14.180 --> 00:58:19.380
you know, to take the wonder out of kids. Also traditional schooling can beat that out of you pretty quick.
962
00:58:21.135 --> 00:58:27.295
Because you have one size fits all in the classroom. You have to get everybody through a certain thing and you sit.
963
00:58:27.615 --> 00:58:31.935
And this is really fun about what's happening with so many people bringing their kids home
964
00:58:32.255 --> 00:58:35.535
letting them learn in unique ways. You know, it's very
965
00:58:35.890 --> 00:58:41.890
exciting. And I think that wound up being a game changer for us. I feel like I'm homeschooling right now.
966
00:58:43.410 --> 00:58:44.450
I'm
967
00:58:44.450 --> 00:58:45.810
the homeschooler, right?
968
00:58:46.290 --> 00:58:46.930
Because Right.
969
00:58:47.330 --> 00:58:51.625
I got to, I'm going, wow, never I thought of that. Isn't that interesting?
970
00:58:52.345 --> 00:58:56.905
They told me not to think about that, but I'm going to think about it anyway, you know. Right. And we go Oh, to talk about
971
00:58:57.545 --> 00:59:07.310
don't talk about it. Well, let's talk about it then. But I mean, I just happen to believe a lot of this was unfolding as a very calculated way to get it dumbed down population.
972
00:59:07.869 --> 00:59:08.670
And
973
00:59:08.910 --> 00:59:09.630
so,
974
00:59:09.790 --> 00:59:11.550
it's not all our fault.
975
00:59:12.270 --> 00:59:15.230
You know what I mean? Like when there's a No, no, but you see
976
00:59:16.845 --> 00:59:18.845
really People They bent on getting you under
977
00:59:19.645 --> 00:59:22.765
do things, they understand the human being enough
978
00:59:23.085 --> 00:59:27.005
to use our need for community enough to make us afraid to be bullied,
979
00:59:27.325 --> 00:59:29.645
to use our need for rest enough to
980
00:59:30.045 --> 00:59:33.670
get us to take drugs to sleep. They use the creation
981
00:59:33.990 --> 00:59:35.350
of the The comfort.
982
00:59:35.510 --> 00:59:40.070
Right. The comfort. They comfort all the time. And if you see like the generations,
983
00:59:41.270 --> 00:59:43.670
let's say around 1900,
984
00:59:43.670 --> 00:59:44.230
and
985
00:59:44.550 --> 00:59:46.710
let's say just before World War II,
986
00:59:47.575 --> 00:59:56.375
these men were like men. Even if you were 24 years old, you were a man. Nowadays, they don't even know what kind of gender that they are. Like,
987
00:59:56.535 --> 00:59:58.855
what the hell happened? But I
988
00:59:59.495 --> 01:00:00.375
don't think it's
989
01:00:00.780 --> 01:00:02.860
much to blame to the
990
01:00:03.260 --> 01:00:07.020
people themselves, but it's about the education. And, but what
991
01:00:07.260 --> 01:00:17.505
they're going to tell you, what the belief system is like, do you really think that you're a Johnny or maybe you're something different? If they don't gonna get these kinds of questions
992
01:00:17.985 --> 01:00:20.785
in early stage, on early age,
993
01:00:20.945 --> 01:00:29.505
you will never question if you're a boy or a girl, whatever. I think it's fine that everybody's gonna pick whatever they do. But if you see nowadays
994
01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:32.080
these rarities,
995
01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:34.480
these craziness of people,
996
01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:36.640
that's been indoctrinated.
997
01:00:36.640 --> 01:00:37.600
That's been how
998
01:00:39.200 --> 01:00:48.315
the system wants you to be. Because let's say that we're heading to World War III, whatever is gonna Russia, China, whatever is
999
01:00:48.474 --> 01:00:51.435
going to be, dude, there's gonna be one day.
1000
01:00:51.755 --> 01:00:57.434
Nobody knows what to do. They're walking around like, Oh my God, I couldn't dye my hair blue. So I don't know how,
1001
01:00:58.059 --> 01:00:59.740
just like what the
1002
01:00:59.900 --> 01:01:04.460
you don't order just like an Instagram, like, oh, no, no, I'm just I'm just Snapchatting
1003
01:01:04.460 --> 01:01:09.819
with a friend of mine and he doesn't see any planes fly over with bombs. So there's nothing going on. Like,
1004
01:01:11.625 --> 01:01:13.785
It's so crazy how
1005
01:01:14.345 --> 01:01:16.025
they really figured out
1006
01:01:16.745 --> 01:01:18.265
what the psychology
1007
01:01:18.265 --> 01:01:18.985
and
1008
01:01:19.465 --> 01:01:22.345
what happens to the brains and to the mind
1009
01:01:22.745 --> 01:01:26.025
of people when you indoctrinate them with propaganda.
1010
01:01:26.609 --> 01:01:27.650
It's a hack.
1011
01:01:27.809 --> 01:01:28.770
It's a hack into And
1012
01:01:31.329 --> 01:01:36.369
they worked on that for a long time. And you can see in the 60s and out of World War II,
1013
01:01:37.569 --> 01:01:42.905
you read Operation Paperclip and they brought all these German scientists over and
1014
01:01:43.625 --> 01:01:51.625
things start way back. Starting in the Garden of Eden as far as I'm concerned, with the beginning. Yeah, the book. Did God really say? Did God really say?
1015
01:01:55.710 --> 01:01:58.190
There's so much going on for centuries. The
1016
01:01:59.150 --> 01:02:01.950
goes, pick me, pick me, it'll be fine. You know?
1017
01:02:02.590 --> 01:02:04.830
Right, right. Yeah. Same story we're
1018
01:02:04.830 --> 01:02:05.869
all living out. But
1019
01:02:07.875 --> 01:02:09.315
in terms of finding,
1020
01:02:09.875 --> 01:02:11.235
awakening a soul,
1021
01:02:11.715 --> 01:02:14.035
and this is one of the most beautiful things
1022
01:02:14.515 --> 01:02:15.235
that
1023
01:02:15.875 --> 01:02:17.155
has happened to me
1024
01:02:18.595 --> 01:02:20.675
in growing up and marrying and
1025
01:02:21.050 --> 01:02:24.730
learning about intimacy and learning about God and learning about kids
1026
01:02:24.970 --> 01:02:33.050
is this awakening where I remember when I was younger I'd go to the beach because people told me I should because it was supposed to be good and I'd sit there and I'd can
1027
01:02:33.530 --> 01:02:34.090
we leave now?
1028
01:02:36.085 --> 01:02:37.045
Okay,
1029
01:02:39.365 --> 01:02:43.765
I've been here five minutes. That's it. Know, I had no capacity for really
1030
01:02:44.725 --> 01:02:46.245
being alive and absorbing
1031
01:02:47.060 --> 01:02:47.940
beauty.
1032
01:02:48.500 --> 01:02:52.740
Because I had shut down. I had numbed out as a very, very young kid.
1033
01:02:53.780 --> 01:03:03.565
But I'll tell you one of the most amazing things that will help you wake up. And just pretend I'm talking about any book in the world besides my own for right now.
1034
01:03:04.045 --> 01:03:06.525
Read with your children. Read out loud.
1035
01:03:07.165 --> 01:03:10.925
Read out, even as adults. My husband and I read to each other.
1036
01:03:11.485 --> 01:03:13.805
And we read, you know, when I read my new book,
1037
01:03:14.125 --> 01:03:15.885
know, I'll read them my books
1038
01:03:15.830 --> 01:03:18.230
and we'll talk about the characters,
1039
01:03:18.390 --> 01:03:19.830
read children's books,
1040
01:03:20.310 --> 01:03:21.830
read to your grandchildren,
1041
01:03:22.710 --> 01:03:24.710
read out loud with your children.
1042
01:03:25.510 --> 01:03:27.350
And don't- It's also so before imagination.
1043
01:03:27.905 --> 01:03:29.105
Your imagination
1044
01:03:29.105 --> 01:03:33.105
about character, you about what as an adult to read to children
1045
01:03:33.665 --> 01:03:39.505
and to read out loud and to do reading as a communal exercise. It's very central to a lot of,
1046
01:03:39.905 --> 01:03:42.910
you know, aside to this, a lot of homeschoolers
1047
01:03:42.910 --> 01:03:50.030
forget most, they say forget what they're telling us we have to do with our kids. We're just going to all sit together and read great books and talk about it.
1048
01:03:50.510 --> 01:03:52.350
They do entirely, entire
1049
01:03:53.445 --> 01:03:59.845
school plans based on just reading out loud and talking with their kids. And it is so healing to the brain.
1050
01:04:00.165 --> 01:04:02.885
And then of course you want to get something worthwhile.
1051
01:04:02.885 --> 01:04:05.045
You need great vocabulary.
1052
01:04:05.365 --> 01:04:06.485
Need witty characters.
1053
01:04:07.140 --> 01:04:09.940
All my books are fully colored illustrated
1054
01:04:09.940 --> 01:04:15.940
because you don't tell kids that color is a metaphor for revelation and give them black So in my books,
1055
01:04:17.059 --> 01:04:17.940
stories,
1056
01:04:17.940 --> 01:04:23.955
things like this. And I'll tell you that simple thing of reading in children's poetry,
1057
01:04:24.435 --> 01:04:25.395
Silverstein,
1058
01:04:25.395 --> 01:04:26.835
people like that. You know,
1059
01:04:28.035 --> 01:04:30.275
that's why I say, you know, it's
1060
01:04:30.275 --> 01:04:31.955
like Doctor. Seuss,
1061
01:04:32.570 --> 01:04:34.010
Shell Silverstein,
1062
01:04:34.170 --> 01:04:38.970
C. S. Lewis, and somebody else is having a party in my brain. I don't know who is going to show up next.
1063
01:04:39.450 --> 01:04:40.730
That's
1064
01:04:40.730 --> 01:04:43.210
what I'm always trying to, I'm always trying to invite these
1065
01:04:43.610 --> 01:04:48.355
kids authors into my brain. Help me, help me wake up again. Help me
1066
01:04:48.675 --> 01:04:49.075
But see it
1067
01:04:50.435 --> 01:04:51.235
it's
1068
01:04:51.235 --> 01:04:53.075
also something that's been
1069
01:04:53.795 --> 01:04:55.955
given through generations
1070
01:04:55.955 --> 01:05:03.970
by cultures that's sitting by the bonfire telling about stories that have such a deep meaning, like the indigenous people of America.
1071
01:05:04.130 --> 01:05:05.970
Like I was in Peru with
1072
01:05:06.369 --> 01:05:07.810
the Shippiba
1073
01:05:08.450 --> 01:05:09.250
Indians,
1074
01:05:09.810 --> 01:05:13.650
for lack of a better word, indigenous people, right? And they
1075
01:05:13.970 --> 01:05:15.089
tell stories
1076
01:05:16.095 --> 01:05:16.815
about
1077
01:05:17.295 --> 01:05:18.735
life meaning
1078
01:05:19.295 --> 01:05:19.935
things
1079
01:05:20.335 --> 01:05:24.495
you can have as a guide, as a map, call it the Bible, but they
1080
01:05:26.494 --> 01:05:33.540
give these stories to generations and these generations are still talking about it because people
1081
01:05:33.540 --> 01:05:37.780
listen to it. Just like you said, if you read something to someone,
1082
01:05:38.180 --> 01:05:51.155
no matter what kind of book, people are gonna listen to it and maybe have a different opinion about what they've been reading and a little perspective, different perspective. But that's okay. But then you're going to be in a conversation and you're going to wake up
1083
01:05:51.474 --> 01:05:59.475
and you are in a conversation with a fellow human, right? That's something nowadays that's been shut down. And I think that's also
1084
01:05:59.875 --> 01:06:01.714
the part that they want to
1085
01:06:02.300 --> 01:06:03.900
indoctrinate in this realm
1086
01:06:04.780 --> 01:06:08.140
of right now. They want to individualise
1087
01:06:08.140 --> 01:06:09.020
everything.
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01:06:09.500 --> 01:06:17.500
In the early days, it was so much family based. I'm not saying it's not family based anymore, but it's so much individualism.
1089
01:06:18.225 --> 01:06:19.505
It's isolation.
1090
01:06:19.505 --> 01:06:26.065
I can isolate. Isolation is a better word. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not going to lie to you and say that I don't
1091
01:06:26.545 --> 01:06:27.585
zone out.
1092
01:06:28.065 --> 01:06:29.265
You know?
1093
01:06:29.585 --> 01:06:33.505
You have to sometimes, right? Culture, you know, there's there's kind of my
1094
01:06:34.260 --> 01:06:36.020
YouTube things I like to watch.
1095
01:06:36.340 --> 01:06:43.140
Usually it's Cinderella type stories where something bad gets made good, whether it's a physical location or health
1096
01:06:43.140 --> 01:06:44.260
concern or,
1097
01:06:44.660 --> 01:06:45.140
know,
1098
01:06:45.860 --> 01:06:47.220
some woman getting a facelift.
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01:06:49.835 --> 01:06:50.315
Transformation,
1100
01:06:51.994 --> 01:06:52.954
transformation's
1101
01:06:52.954 --> 01:06:58.234
important. But what I'm learning more every day as a child,
1102
01:06:59.674 --> 01:07:01.914
I'm learning to stop
1103
01:07:02.970 --> 01:07:03.530
and
1104
01:07:03.850 --> 01:07:04.570
be
1105
01:07:04.890 --> 01:07:08.330
present and intentional for the reality of wonder
1106
01:07:08.810 --> 01:07:10.730
and what that represents
1107
01:07:11.370 --> 01:07:14.010
and what is universally true about that.
1108
01:07:14.664 --> 01:07:17.305
And realizing that any time you do that
1109
01:07:18.345 --> 01:07:19.464
it's powerful,
1110
01:07:19.625 --> 01:07:20.425
any time.
1111
01:07:20.744 --> 01:07:22.265
It's revelation. Yeah.
1112
01:07:22.984 --> 01:07:25.145
It's not hopeless. It's not hopeless.
1113
01:07:25.305 --> 01:07:25.785
You know, humans,
1114
01:07:28.950 --> 01:07:35.990
as we step into the fullness of how God created us to be and what He has for us, we're a great threat to darkness. You know, don't kid yourself.
1115
01:07:36.390 --> 01:07:37.830
What's scary? People went to light.
1116
01:07:38.390 --> 01:07:47.735
This is why you have people spend such enormous amount of time, energy and money to manipulate, control, and brainwash and propagandize. We're a very big threat, you know.
1117
01:07:48.455 --> 01:07:50.135
Awakened
1118
01:07:50.135 --> 01:07:54.135
people who see and love and are intentional and
1119
01:07:54.855 --> 01:07:56.375
present communicating,
1120
01:07:56.610 --> 01:07:57.490
talking,
1121
01:07:57.570 --> 01:07:59.090
having difficult conversations
1122
01:07:59.090 --> 01:08:00.210
instead of just
1123
01:08:01.010 --> 01:08:05.410
ghosting people, that's a huge threat to dark, right?
1124
01:08:06.210 --> 01:08:07.970
They So, you ought to be scared of us.
1125
01:08:08.835 --> 01:08:09.555
It's
1126
01:08:09.955 --> 01:08:11.955
nice that you say because I'm
1127
01:08:11.955 --> 01:08:17.235
reading it. Well, I'm listening to it for a second time now from Napoleon Hill, Outwitting the Devil,
1128
01:08:17.555 --> 01:08:19.715
an interview of the so called devil.
1129
01:08:20.114 --> 01:08:20.675
And
1130
01:08:21.199 --> 01:08:25.679
that's one of the things that he said, like, no, I want people in fear.
1131
01:08:26.800 --> 01:08:31.119
I want to program them because otherwise I don't have anything to do.
1132
01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:32.320
And the other guy,
1133
01:08:34.105 --> 01:08:41.465
he tells them how to be in the light. And I don't like that. But if you listen to the metaphors and to the story, just like,
1134
01:08:42.264 --> 01:08:43.224
okay.
1135
01:08:43.385 --> 01:08:44.344
So if
1136
01:08:44.505 --> 01:08:46.905
you're living that life and you question everything
1137
01:08:47.450 --> 01:08:48.330
and you
1138
01:08:49.130 --> 01:08:55.530
believe in yourself, that's something that the devil, call it whatever, the darkness doesn't want you to.
1139
01:08:55.930 --> 01:09:01.770
If you believe in yourself and you just do what's good for you and support and love for
1140
01:09:02.410 --> 01:09:07.525
the other people, hey, you're good to go. But with all the programming
1141
01:09:08.005 --> 01:09:09.285
that's been going on,
1142
01:09:09.845 --> 01:09:12.085
don't want that. That's why they have this,
1143
01:09:13.525 --> 01:09:14.165
as you said,
1144
01:09:16.179 --> 01:09:18.020
not only individualism,
1145
01:09:18.020 --> 01:09:19.059
but also the
1146
01:09:21.300 --> 01:09:22.579
said the word. Isolation.
1147
01:09:22.820 --> 01:09:23.699
Isolation,
1148
01:09:23.699 --> 01:09:24.899
that's the word. Yeah.
1149
01:09:25.380 --> 01:09:35.964
Because then you are just one and not the group. And if you are as a group waking up or questioning everything or say like, No, I'm not gonna do that with
1150
01:09:36.364 --> 01:09:39.885
mandates or whatever, then they don't have anything
1151
01:09:40.364 --> 01:09:43.659
to throw at you. Well, people have to realize that.
1152
01:09:44.620 --> 01:09:48.140
Julie, what can adults learn from children
1153
01:09:48.940 --> 01:09:53.179
that we tend to forget somewhere along the road to adulthood?
1154
01:09:53.660 --> 01:09:54.460
Well,
1155
01:09:55.180 --> 01:09:56.974
probably just about everything.
1156
01:09:58.974 --> 01:10:04.494
Right? But there's
1157
01:10:04.494 --> 01:10:06.655
an immediacy about a child.
1158
01:10:07.614 --> 01:10:09.295
You know, what they're feeling
1159
01:10:09.250 --> 01:10:11.809
is all they're feeling and it's right then and there.
1160
01:10:12.210 --> 01:10:13.570
And until they
1161
01:10:14.210 --> 01:10:15.329
grow a bit,
1162
01:10:16.290 --> 01:10:17.810
they're not satisfied
1163
01:10:17.810 --> 01:10:18.449
with,
1164
01:10:19.409 --> 01:10:28.614
you know, they want to be held then, they want to be talked to then, they want an answer now. And of course some of that is can be, it's extremely self centered, you know, children are extremely But self
1165
01:10:29.974 --> 01:10:31.574
there's an immediacy
1166
01:10:31.574 --> 01:10:32.135
to
1167
01:10:32.775 --> 01:10:33.814
being aware
1168
01:10:35.014 --> 01:10:36.054
and saying, wait,
1169
01:10:37.014 --> 01:10:37.895
stop right there.
1170
01:10:39.590 --> 01:10:41.030
I've got to deal with that.
1171
01:10:41.590 --> 01:10:42.469
I'm
1172
01:10:42.469 --> 01:10:43.669
not going to stuff that.
1173
01:10:44.150 --> 01:10:53.989
Or take a note, we're coming back to that because that has to be dealt with. Which in good parenting you don't let things slide. If you can't deal with your child in the middle of the restaurant,
1174
01:10:54.975 --> 01:10:55.695
you know,
1175
01:10:56.655 --> 01:10:58.574
you take them out, you make sure you
1176
01:10:58.975 --> 01:10:59.854
rethink
1177
01:10:59.855 --> 01:11:01.934
and you teach into the situation
1178
01:11:02.014 --> 01:11:04.735
so that you don't have tantrums in restaurants anymore.
1179
01:11:04.975 --> 01:11:06.175
Right. But you
1180
01:11:06.415 --> 01:11:13.510
make a note and you go woah, woah, woah, woah, I'm not stuffing that. I'm not ignoring that. Think of how that would work with a toddler.
1181
01:11:14.150 --> 01:11:15.349
That toddler,
1182
01:11:15.750 --> 01:11:17.510
you can't just ignore that.
1183
01:11:18.550 --> 01:11:22.230
You have to discipline into it. You have to train. You have to teach.
1184
01:11:22.915 --> 01:11:30.195
You have to set the boundaries, you have to give the affection, right? The conversation with whatever age you can. And I think that's an immediacy
1185
01:11:30.435 --> 01:11:31.315
that we
1186
01:11:31.635 --> 01:11:35.875
could learn from because the needs around us in ourselves and others
1187
01:11:36.570 --> 01:11:39.130
are way more immediate than we want to admit.
1188
01:11:39.369 --> 01:11:49.209
Like some of we do have things we have to do and there's times and places and there's coping when you have to be patient and you might have a long thing to persevere,
1189
01:11:49.290 --> 01:11:51.515
but still being in it
1190
01:11:52.235 --> 01:11:55.195
and being aware and seeing and understanding
1191
01:11:55.835 --> 01:11:56.955
is huge.
1192
01:11:57.435 --> 01:12:00.635
Instead of going, oh, oh, it doesn't matter, denial. See,
1193
01:12:01.435 --> 01:12:03.835
one of the people, I was asked to be on a podcast
1194
01:12:05.540 --> 01:12:06.660
on peace.
1195
01:12:08.580 --> 01:12:11.300
I talk about peace. I said, well then do you talk about war?
1196
01:12:12.420 --> 01:12:14.980
Because in Hebrew, the word for shalom
1197
01:12:15.060 --> 01:12:16.020
is a war word.
1198
01:12:18.285 --> 01:12:23.644
Shalom means Shalom Havarim. That's that's that's one of the the the canons I learned.
1199
01:12:23.885 --> 01:12:24.525
Yeah.
1200
01:12:24.765 --> 01:12:25.324
Well,
1201
01:12:25.885 --> 01:12:27.644
means not on my watch.
1202
01:12:29.645 --> 01:12:30.445
Nothing broken.
1203
01:12:30.685 --> 01:12:32.925
Broken. Nothing missing. Nothing out of place.
1204
01:12:33.620 --> 01:12:39.460
And so the idea of Shalom in the Bible is not on my watch. We don't allow that here.
1205
01:12:40.020 --> 01:12:43.060
This is getting taken care of. We are taking care of business.
1206
01:12:43.220 --> 01:12:47.925
So if there is a conflict, a problem, a missing piece, a need for healing,
1207
01:12:48.165 --> 01:12:50.324
a need for quiet, we're dealing.
1208
01:12:50.804 --> 01:12:51.685
That's
1209
01:12:51.685 --> 01:12:53.364
what peace means, we're dealing.
1210
01:12:53.925 --> 01:12:55.284
Don't allow that. Vocation.
1211
01:12:55.844 --> 01:12:58.324
Know, it's like when the Lord's Prayer,
1212
01:13:00.170 --> 01:13:05.290
on earth as it is in heaven. In other words, if it's not happening there, I'm not allowing it here.
1213
01:13:05.770 --> 01:13:06.570
Right.
1214
01:13:06.570 --> 01:13:10.650
I'm not. I'm an increase in god's kingdom because I won't allow that mess,
1215
01:13:10.890 --> 01:13:14.995
you know, with his help and and and his strength and life and authority.
1216
01:13:16.035 --> 01:13:21.795
Does that happen in heaven? Well then it's not happening on my watch right here to you or anybody around me. We're dealing.
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And if you think about it,
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that is the basis of peace,
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is the immediacy of dealing with what you have to deal with. The opposite of peace is avoidance.
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And avoidance creates anxiety.
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Avoidance will always create anxiety. This is what I've taught about overcoming fear and performance anxiety.
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01:13:42.724 --> 01:13:45.684
When you are terrified and you don't want to do something,
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like when people would say, Will you sing, Julie? Will you perform? And I would go, Well, I know I am really busy. I think I have something. I
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01:13:52.324 --> 01:13:53.925
don't know if I really want to do that.
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You get a hit immediately of this when you avoid something that terrifies you. You get a hit of something that makes you feel great.
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Like,
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I just took the drug. I am relieved. I am so relieved. Wow. Oh, I
1228
01:14:07.380 --> 01:14:16.655
guess the point of me being okay is to just avoid the conflict because it feels so good. The problem is that immediate hit of relief from fight or flight
1229
01:14:17.054 --> 01:14:24.150
creates an anxiety cycle. So you actually wind up creating more anxiety and less peace the more you avoid it. Right.
1230
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But fear,
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01:14:25.670 --> 01:14:27.429
when dealt with directly,
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dealing with things creates peace.
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01:14:32.390 --> 01:14:41.165
Dealing with them. And this is one of the things that technology can make us very avoidant because I can just text you, I don't have to call you, I don't have to sit across from you.
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01:14:43.005 --> 01:15:01.350
I read something interesting that I think is really fascinating about, or maybe I watched it, it was a reformation talking about technology and education. How in Sweden or some kind of, they're getting all the technology out of the classrooms. They're giving people paper. I don't if it was Sweden but it was one of those countries. They're teaching kids handwriting
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again.
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They're finding that reading books on a screen is terrible for your brain as opposed to holding the book in your hand. And so there's a revolution happening where they're realizing that technology within the learning environment is actually pretty awful
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01:15:17.355 --> 01:15:18.235
for kids.
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01:15:18.555 --> 01:15:27.929
And so they were saying, well, what do you, they were asking these tech genius guys, you know, that are bringing us this technology, what do you do for your kids? Well, I make them play outside.
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01:15:28.650 --> 01:15:32.250
I don't let them on screens. I make them read books. Tech geniuses!
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01:15:33.225 --> 01:15:41.705
They're saying the best thing you could do in a world where you have technology that people will be using is to limit it maybe to one class specifically
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01:15:41.705 --> 01:15:46.105
that is about that. And then the rest of the time is to do every
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01:15:46.265 --> 01:15:51.340
other activity that we are teaching ourselves and our kids should be about. What makes you more human?
1243
01:15:51.659 --> 01:15:52.939
Play the instrument.
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01:15:53.580 --> 01:15:55.979
Take your shoes off and run-in the dirt.
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01:15:56.860 --> 01:15:58.139
Trust someone
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01:15:58.619 --> 01:15:59.900
play a game, you know.
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01:16:01.145 --> 01:16:05.945
Be human. And have a hard conversation. Be uncomfortable together. Yeah. And
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they're saying that the best thing you can do to help people
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01:16:10.985 --> 01:16:11.864
deal in technology
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01:16:12.490 --> 01:16:17.610
is not to teach it a lot. You know what I mean? Like to go Yeah, yeah, yeah. So messy, I broken
1251
01:16:19.050 --> 01:16:20.730
just wanna rephrase
1252
01:16:21.210 --> 01:16:26.005
what you just said about the children that they are the center, right? Is it
1253
01:16:26.485 --> 01:16:27.925
also something that
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01:16:28.485 --> 01:16:33.125
with this society that we're living in, that we're going to be more off center?
1255
01:16:33.605 --> 01:16:43.410
So the child does not know that it Well, we teach them, And that's the crazy thing about children, right? First, we want to teach them to
1256
01:16:44.130 --> 01:16:51.650
walk. They crawl and they have to walk. As soon as they walk, they want to run. But we say, no, no, no, don't run, sit still.
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01:16:52.665 --> 01:16:56.584
As soon as the child grows older, we want them to talk.
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01:16:56.985 --> 01:16:59.864
But as soon as they talk, we tell them to shut up.
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01:17:01.304 --> 01:17:05.784
We tell our children in the first five years, don't lie.
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01:17:06.410 --> 01:17:12.170
But we tell them about the Easter bunny, tell them about Santa Claus, all this stuff. So it's
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01:17:12.170 --> 01:17:15.850
really fun. And just when you said it about the center,
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01:17:16.250 --> 01:17:18.410
the child is expressing
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01:17:18.585 --> 01:17:29.704
itself from the being itself like, Oh, mommy, I need food, or I want to do this, I want to do that. And they have to ask permission or they have to ask for stuff.
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01:17:30.025 --> 01:17:31.465
But isn't it something that
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01:17:32.020 --> 01:17:39.540
as soon as we are going to be in the more adult life, that we are not willing to put ourselves in the center,
1266
01:17:39.860 --> 01:17:41.140
but put ourselves
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01:17:41.380 --> 01:17:42.900
way beyond that,
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01:17:43.220 --> 01:17:44.500
which makes us
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much more not aligned
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01:17:47.825 --> 01:17:51.425
to that what we really are, the power that we are be.
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01:17:53.825 --> 01:18:02.370
Yeah. And, you know, I am not an Eastern mystic type, and I don't believe in Eastern mysticism. So I'm never going to buy into that
1272
01:18:03.410 --> 01:18:10.210
general philosophy. You just go into yourself and you know the source and the thing. Really think we're
1273
01:18:10.210 --> 01:18:11.170
creations.
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01:18:12.930 --> 01:18:14.610
He knows, there's an intelligence.
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01:18:15.525 --> 01:18:18.325
But the reality is that
1276
01:18:19.605 --> 01:18:20.965
authentic peace.
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01:18:22.805 --> 01:18:29.925
And one of my favorite verses in the Bible says, By the grace of God I am what I am and His grace to me is not without effect.
1278
01:18:31.120 --> 01:18:32.400
So here I am.
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01:18:34.240 --> 01:18:39.120
I'm a messed up struggling person terrified to play my music in front of people,
1280
01:18:39.440 --> 01:18:43.914
dealing with this, I'm here, let's call it what it is and
1281
01:18:45.275 --> 01:18:50.635
receive the grace to take a step at a time and not be avoidant about
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01:18:50.955 --> 01:18:51.994
the reality
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01:18:52.715 --> 01:19:04.220
of what's really here and letting people see that. People don't want to be seen. They don't wanna be known. Now, gosh, where's the filter that by the way, on this video, that's supposed to make me look younger. I don't see it.
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01:19:05.740 --> 01:19:15.695
Just turned 35. Now you're complaining. Oh my God. You know what I mean? Like, I've been thinking that the next time we talk about authenticity, I'll have the filter on. Right.
1285
01:19:17.055 --> 01:19:18.895
Anyway. So talking about music,
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01:19:21.855 --> 01:19:23.935
especially when I did my introduction,
1287
01:19:25.270 --> 01:19:29.350
you do a lot of things. Did that happen in 2019
1288
01:19:29.350 --> 01:19:31.590
as you were starting I've way
1289
01:19:31.989 --> 01:19:38.324
been playing back, musicians since I was a child because my mother valued it and we all had to take lessons.
1290
01:19:38.565 --> 01:19:42.005
But I had some terrifying performance
1291
01:19:42.085 --> 01:19:45.284
experiences as a young performer in recitals.
1292
01:19:45.605 --> 01:19:53.660
And because the music meant so much to me, couldn't bear to be bad at it. So when I had my first blank out in front of an audience, it scarred my brain.
1293
01:19:54.060 --> 01:19:55.739
And it happened a couple of times.
1294
01:19:56.140 --> 01:20:02.060
But I still had this, like I was a beekeeper who was allergic to bees. Like I wanted bees but they could kill me.
1295
01:20:02.620 --> 01:20:19.415
That's how it felt with music. Like I had this music in me and this desire to write and sing and perform, it had a terrible fear that it would kill me if I ever did it in front of people and I messed up. I mean, I felt like I could die. And that's where phobias come from. It goes down to this level where
1296
01:20:20.989 --> 01:20:24.110
you really see yourself in a death spiral
1297
01:20:24.190 --> 01:20:30.510
that something you're afraid of could kill you on some level. It sounds crazy but that's how the body and the mind reacts to certain
1298
01:20:30.750 --> 01:20:31.550
trauma.
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01:20:31.949 --> 01:20:33.485
Right, right. So
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01:20:34.365 --> 01:20:41.565
I was avoiding, I am so good at a lot of things that I was avoiding doing the one thing which was facing the fear of performance.
1301
01:20:42.525 --> 01:20:45.005
And I was busy being competent
1302
01:20:47.860 --> 01:20:56.500
and getting a lot of support from everyone going, oh, you're so good at homeschooling, you're so good at this. Oh, you're wonderful. And I was so busy and appreciated.
1303
01:20:56.820 --> 01:21:03.844
And one day I was sitting on the couch and I heard the voice that said, Julie, it's time you have to deal with this fear. And I felt the cold
1304
01:21:04.324 --> 01:21:07.604
chill as if I was naked in front of the audience.
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01:21:09.204 --> 01:21:19.670
The was chapel so was now sure you're telling me, but I'm so popular doing all these other mom things. How could it be so important that I sing and play? Are you kidding me? Come on. It's
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01:21:19.670 --> 01:21:25.670
more noble if I take care of everyone else kind of thing. And we were like, no, I got a finger on you. Don't avoid.
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01:21:26.470 --> 01:21:39.664
Because there was so much grief also from avoiding doing what I was created to do. And so I sat there and I said, Okay, if you will walk me through it, will go everywhere. Just take me by the hand. And began a long process of understanding
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01:21:40.065 --> 01:21:42.385
fear and trauma and pain and
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01:21:43.264 --> 01:21:48.370
complex trauma and brain healing and God entity and all the stuff.
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01:21:48.770 --> 01:21:55.489
And to the point where I wound up having a nationally syndicated jazz radio show, putting out five albums,
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01:21:56.210 --> 01:21:57.410
regularly performing
1312
01:21:57.410 --> 01:21:58.290
Afraid
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01:21:58.370 --> 01:22:00.210
with some of the best musicians in the world.
1314
01:22:01.075 --> 01:22:02.755
And that taught me a lot.
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01:22:03.155 --> 01:22:09.715
And the music was also just became a metaphor for deeper things because it was so many heart issues.
1316
01:22:10.355 --> 01:22:12.835
And so there was that. And then one day
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01:22:13.155 --> 01:22:20.890
I heard him say, Julie, you're hiding. And I said, what are you talking about? I got five albums out. I got a radio show. I got a website. What do mean I'm hiding?
1318
01:22:21.610 --> 01:22:23.530
And he said, you got to start telling people
1319
01:22:24.410 --> 01:22:25.610
about how afraid And you
1320
01:22:26.890 --> 01:22:30.975
I went, no, I don't want them to know I've been afraid. Just want to be one of the guys.
1321
01:22:31.855 --> 01:22:34.655
I just want to be with all the people who play the cool music.
1322
01:22:35.375 --> 01:22:48.780
And I don't want them to know that I'm terrified every time I step on stage or that I'm working through that or that I'm in process or I'm imperfect or maybe I'm not that great of a musician. Because if I was really a good musician I wouldn't be so scared. You know what I mean? Like,
1323
01:22:49.500 --> 01:22:57.420
and it was like, no, you're going have to start telling your story. So I started this thing and I wound up with this daily show called Fear Free Living with Julie Lavender.
1324
01:22:59.685 --> 01:23:08.324
And the only Julie Lavender out there. And then I got quiet to write books for a while and another Julie Lavender popped up. So now I'm using my whole name. But anyway,
1325
01:23:10.165 --> 01:23:11.765
and I began every podcast,
1326
01:23:12.390 --> 01:23:15.429
I ended it with, now go do something that scares you.
1327
01:23:16.550 --> 01:23:20.710
Every day, go do something that scares you. It was Yes, a long hour of the comfort zone.
1328
01:23:21.510 --> 01:23:27.429
Hour of the comfort zone. But like, I mean, you nail that down. Like today I will pick up the phone and call that person
1329
01:23:27.510 --> 01:23:40.445
I don't wanna talk to. Today I will walk out of this house without a mask. Today I will say no. Today I will say yes. Today I will clean my room. Today I will tell somebody that I was sexually abused. You know, whatever, where you ever are in the process,
1330
01:23:41.005 --> 01:23:41.725
today's the day.
1331
01:23:42.440 --> 01:23:43.240
And
1332
01:23:43.240 --> 01:23:50.199
so I began to teach deeply on that and then I began to teach on trauma healing and all that kind of stuff. And then,
1333
01:23:50.520 --> 01:23:53.480
surprise, I was writing these kids books which I didn't expect to do,
1334
01:23:54.295 --> 01:23:55.094
you know.
1335
01:23:55.574 --> 01:23:58.214
And that became actually an interesting way
1336
01:23:58.775 --> 01:24:01.254
to help people get into the larger story
1337
01:24:01.574 --> 01:24:03.974
that makes it worth dealing,
1338
01:24:04.614 --> 01:24:06.295
worth going to war for your peace.
1339
01:24:07.130 --> 01:24:12.810
You gotta you gotta you gotta see it's worth going to war against the fear for your peace.
1340
01:24:13.610 --> 01:24:14.650
I love that.
1341
01:24:16.810 --> 01:24:21.290
It's Which means writing kids books that you you know, that are it's scary to write. Come on. Don't kid yourself.
1342
01:24:22.255 --> 01:24:23.775
But everything is scary.
1343
01:24:23.935 --> 01:24:24.415
Even
1344
01:24:26.335 --> 01:24:29.775
if you're just a content creator, you're making videos, you do podcasts,
1345
01:24:30.655 --> 01:24:32.735
you write, you make music,
1346
01:24:32.895 --> 01:24:37.220
everything that you want to share to this world is somehow,
1347
01:24:37.460 --> 01:24:39.540
you know, anxiety
1348
01:24:39.700 --> 01:24:47.860
kicks in, or you think you're not good enough. But the problem is with a lot of people, if they don't push it out, if they don't wanna make it, you know,
1349
01:24:48.715 --> 01:24:50.235
to perform whatever,
1350
01:24:50.395 --> 01:24:51.755
how you wanna perform,
1351
01:24:51.995 --> 01:24:54.155
then you're gonna be stuck in that little place.
1352
01:24:54.395 --> 01:24:56.395
But as soon as you're gonna
1353
01:24:56.955 --> 01:25:04.395
do the things that you really like to do, even if they're not the best things that you do, like the best musician, the best writer, the
1354
01:25:04.080 --> 01:25:11.280
best podcast or whatever. But if you don't push yourself to get out of the comfort zone and like, okay, this is what I do.
1355
01:25:12.000 --> 01:25:18.084
It's not the best, but I'm performing, I'm doing it. I think then eventually
1356
01:25:18.724 --> 01:25:21.044
that road that you're gonna
1357
01:25:21.605 --> 01:25:25.445
walk is going to be much more fruitful
1358
01:25:25.685 --> 01:25:26.405
and
1359
01:25:27.205 --> 01:25:28.164
even
1360
01:25:28.804 --> 01:25:36.930
beneficial for other people than if you're gonna stuck it to yourself, Oh, no, I'm not good enough. And yeah, everything comes with fear. With
1361
01:25:37.170 --> 01:25:40.610
what you talked about at beginning, you have to believe in yourself.
1362
01:25:40.930 --> 01:25:53.065
I think I can play a little bit of guitar. I can make music, but I will never be on the top. I don't want to be on the top. I just want to bring out the things that I want to do. Just like you say, with
1363
01:25:54.344 --> 01:25:56.905
your music, with writing, just like, Oh my God,
1364
01:25:57.304 --> 01:25:59.065
I'm writing. Does anybody
1365
01:25:59.449 --> 01:26:02.249
wants to know about what I'm writing for? And now,
1366
01:26:02.969 --> 01:26:03.929
but if you
1367
01:26:04.489 --> 01:26:06.170
jump into that journey,
1368
01:26:06.570 --> 01:26:08.809
then it will unfold itself.
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01:26:09.130 --> 01:26:17.515
But if you don't jump into the journey, you will still stuck at the crossroads and you don't know what kind of direction do you have to go to. That's
1370
01:26:17.515 --> 01:26:19.275
a problem with a lot of people, you know,
1371
01:26:20.075 --> 01:26:23.114
share it to the world. I was in America last year,
1372
01:26:23.995 --> 01:26:27.969
went from the East Coast to the West Coast and I met so much people,
1373
01:26:28.770 --> 01:26:32.449
like almost everyone that has this unique thing
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01:26:32.849 --> 01:26:33.570
that
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01:26:33.889 --> 01:26:35.570
they don't know. And
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01:26:35.969 --> 01:26:38.050
I love to make pictures. So I
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01:26:38.690 --> 01:26:41.010
made pictures of what they did.
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Like one was sculpting
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01:26:43.835 --> 01:26:44.635
skulls,
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01:26:44.635 --> 01:26:46.315
shout out to Giannettis,
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01:26:46.315 --> 01:26:48.395
skulls. Everything that he did was
1382
01:26:48.955 --> 01:26:50.475
making skulls.
1383
01:26:51.035 --> 01:26:57.435
Who does it in the world? Right? He has a whole attic full of skulls, like screwdrivers,
1384
01:26:57.435 --> 01:26:58.315
little puppets.
1385
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So I
1386
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made pictures and I showed him
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what he's doing,
1388
01:27:06.210 --> 01:27:06.849
but he
1389
01:27:07.250 --> 01:27:13.725
has fear of giving it out. You're like, Oh no, it's nothing. I was at a lady's house. Every
1390
01:27:14.925 --> 01:27:15.885
room had
1391
01:27:16.125 --> 01:27:17.645
so much detail.
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01:27:18.045 --> 01:27:20.845
I made the pictures and I showed her like, this
1393
01:27:21.645 --> 01:27:26.045
is quite awesome what you're doing. Like, Oh no, it's no big deal. Yes,
1394
01:27:26.610 --> 01:27:27.969
it is a big deal.
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01:27:28.370 --> 01:27:28.850
But
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01:27:30.370 --> 01:27:38.930
you need other people to tell you that it's a big deal. Like people tell you like, Oh, what you've just been written down. Wow,
1397
01:27:39.010 --> 01:27:44.395
this is so deep. This is giving me so much belief and wonders
1398
01:27:44.395 --> 01:27:45.515
for myself.
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01:27:45.755 --> 01:27:50.795
Oh, wow, maybe I should do more of this. Right? And everybody has this.
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01:27:51.595 --> 01:27:53.275
Everybody has something that
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01:27:53.595 --> 01:27:56.715
gives them this thing, this authenticity, right?
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01:27:59.130 --> 01:28:00.330
If you are
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01:28:01.290 --> 01:28:05.130
doing your life, living your life with all the distractions,
1404
01:28:05.690 --> 01:28:07.290
you don't see what's
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01:28:07.850 --> 01:28:11.625
Well, the problem is because you're doing it automatically
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01:28:11.625 --> 01:28:12.744
yourself, like
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01:28:13.145 --> 01:28:15.385
writing a book, making music,
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01:28:15.545 --> 01:28:22.505
for you, it's very, okay, well, I just made a song. That's it. But for other people like, you did what?
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01:28:22.824 --> 01:28:24.025
You wrote a song?
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01:28:24.840 --> 01:28:27.320
Like, oh, and you play guitar?
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01:28:27.560 --> 01:28:28.280
You
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01:28:28.600 --> 01:28:29.560
write a book?
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01:28:31.080 --> 01:28:32.120
When
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01:28:32.120 --> 01:28:32.920
you are
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01:28:34.040 --> 01:28:35.400
doing it by yourself,
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01:28:36.600 --> 01:28:43.445
it's just normal. But for a lot of people, it's not normal. And I think that the greatest gift that we have nowadays with technology
1417
01:28:43.685 --> 01:28:45.925
is that we can share it so easily.
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01:28:46.325 --> 01:28:49.925
We can share so easily our insights, our stories,
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01:28:50.085 --> 01:28:52.245
like you said, stories that you have to tell and
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01:28:53.570 --> 01:28:54.850
the stories that you
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01:28:55.650 --> 01:28:58.530
have to talk to yourself that you believe in.
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01:28:59.250 --> 01:29:01.170
Then once when it's out,
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01:29:02.130 --> 01:29:13.105
will come back positive, negative. I don't care. It should come back somewhere because it's like tennis, right? You throw the ball, it somehow comes back. You make a volley or not. Okay.
1424
01:29:13.425 --> 01:29:14.065
But
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01:29:14.545 --> 01:29:18.065
it's so great to talk to you, Julie, because you're so passionate
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01:29:18.225 --> 01:29:24.100
and enthusiastic about the things that you're telling, but it has so many layers
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01:29:24.740 --> 01:29:27.699
about what you're telling about the stories
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you're unfolding in your books, but also the way that you
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01:29:32.580 --> 01:29:38.475
had to deal with trauma yourself and turn it around in something like, I want to teach people about
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01:29:40.155 --> 01:29:43.195
what I've learned. And it's still, of course, a process
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01:29:43.515 --> 01:29:44.315
to
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01:29:45.115 --> 01:29:51.750
share it with the world. Thank you for that. Well, thanks for listening. I mean, I feel like I've got, you know,
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01:29:52.550 --> 01:30:04.870
a symphony in my head and I've got a kazoo in my mouth. Like, there's so much to talk about and I have like this little toodly thing, like trying to but you know, one of the things that I've learned is that
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01:30:05.665 --> 01:30:07.425
it didn't come from me.
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01:30:08.304 --> 01:30:09.184
And so
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01:30:09.665 --> 01:30:13.425
the grief about being an artist or a creative or doing anything
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01:30:13.585 --> 01:30:14.304
is
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to let it go.
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01:30:16.304 --> 01:30:24.919
And to go, once you're able to do it and you're free to do it, then you can't let it own you by trying to get your value out of the thing you love to do
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01:30:25.400 --> 01:30:28.679
because my value comes from there, you know? Him.
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01:30:29.159 --> 01:30:30.360
So The source.
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01:30:30.520 --> 01:30:35.965
Because it's a painful life to think that people are going to complete your loop,
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01:30:36.445 --> 01:30:38.205
you know, because they don't. But
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01:30:39.405 --> 01:30:42.764
there are these moments when somebody like you sees something
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01:30:43.245 --> 01:30:45.565
and says, whatever, that's valuable.
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01:30:46.400 --> 01:30:49.280
You know, it's not going to fill my eternal hole,
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01:30:49.679 --> 01:30:52.800
that soul hole we all have, but it's
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01:30:52.800 --> 01:31:01.874
worth what you do to see what you've done, Rob. To say, wait a minute, buried in that and who you are is a purpose.
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01:31:02.675 --> 01:31:05.795
And so stick with it, kid. You know?
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01:31:06.355 --> 01:31:08.195
I love that you noticed that.
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01:31:09.554 --> 01:31:11.315
It's
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01:31:11.315 --> 01:31:12.435
so cool when
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01:31:13.010 --> 01:31:15.330
you finally do things that
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01:31:15.650 --> 01:31:16.770
make you happy.
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01:31:17.330 --> 01:31:17.970
And
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01:31:18.210 --> 01:31:21.970
when you're reaching out to so many people, I never could possibly
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01:31:21.970 --> 01:31:27.330
know that if I have a conversation with someone that other people will listen to it and think like, wow,
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01:31:28.165 --> 01:31:31.525
that was amazing conversation, whatever. But just like, okay,
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01:31:31.925 --> 01:31:40.965
I had to deal with so much fear and disbelief of myself and all the stupid things that I did in the past life to, okay,
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01:31:41.285 --> 01:31:41.685
yes,
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01:31:42.380 --> 01:31:50.620
you record something, whatever it is. And it took you three years to make it perfect and it's still on your hard drive.
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01:31:51.420 --> 01:31:52.380
What are you doing?
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01:31:52.940 --> 01:31:55.020
And once I realized like,
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01:31:55.180 --> 01:31:55.980
what if
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01:31:56.140 --> 01:31:56.620
it's
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01:31:56.945 --> 01:32:00.545
that everything that I create or whatever I'm gonna do,
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01:32:01.425 --> 01:32:03.585
put it out and see what's happening.
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01:32:04.785 --> 01:32:07.585
And then it will, well, now it's
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01:32:07.905 --> 01:32:08.865
going to be
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01:32:10.880 --> 01:32:19.280
so much in the things that I'm aligned with, the things that I really like to do. And just like you said, you gotta do something, listeners,
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01:32:19.280 --> 01:32:26.334
listen to this. You gotta do something out of the comfort zone every single day. Do something that's really holding you back from doing.
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01:32:26.974 --> 01:32:28.574
Today I was in the forest,
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01:32:29.534 --> 01:32:31.374
and there's beautiful forest around here.
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01:32:32.414 --> 01:32:34.094
And I always,
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01:32:34.414 --> 01:32:35.294
always
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01:32:35.375 --> 01:32:36.335
walked barefoot.
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01:32:37.000 --> 01:32:42.600
And there was this path with oak trees and now the oak trees, they lose their
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01:32:44.360 --> 01:32:46.679
acorns, what's The it acorns.
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01:32:46.680 --> 01:32:48.760
Yeah. So these little
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01:32:49.400 --> 01:32:50.120
shelves,
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01:32:50.440 --> 01:32:50.840
they can,
1482
01:32:51.635 --> 01:32:57.315
well, probably cause you some harm on your feet, but just like, no, no, no. I believe
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01:32:57.555 --> 01:33:01.235
that my feet are made to walk upon this earth.
1484
01:33:01.715 --> 01:33:04.435
Right? So I'm walking there and
1485
01:33:04.880 --> 01:33:06.560
there are 9,000
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01:33:06.720 --> 01:33:09.360
nerve ends on the end of your feet.
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01:33:09.840 --> 01:33:15.760
So you massage your feet and just like, wow. And on the end it was so good because there was this
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01:33:16.400 --> 01:33:17.040
white
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01:33:17.840 --> 01:33:19.680
Tundra kind of sand
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01:33:19.875 --> 01:33:20.434
on
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01:33:21.074 --> 01:33:24.594
the path. So I walked through the acorns,
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01:33:24.675 --> 01:33:26.755
I walked through grass
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01:33:26.755 --> 01:33:28.034
and you feel
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01:33:28.034 --> 01:33:31.874
that sometimes when the sun comes down, the
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01:33:32.914 --> 01:33:36.120
grass is warm and then you go to a spot where it's a little bit more
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01:33:37.240 --> 01:33:38.040
colder.
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01:33:38.120 --> 01:33:39.240
You feel
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01:33:39.400 --> 01:33:45.160
where you are in this beautiful scenery of nature, right? That makes me alive.
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01:33:45.640 --> 01:33:49.160
Then I knew like, wow, I'm going to be so prepared for
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01:33:49.485 --> 01:33:59.805
the conversation that we're going to have right now, because I did something that just like, okay, I could do this and that and that. No, no, I got to walk. And I was looking
1501
01:34:00.125 --> 01:34:01.885
at the clouds and I knew like,
1502
01:34:03.100 --> 01:34:07.180
probably you're gonna be in your car and it's gonna rain,
1503
01:34:07.260 --> 01:34:12.140
like really a lot of rain because there was so much heat here over the last couple of weeks,
1504
01:34:12.300 --> 01:34:13.900
strong as I prefer to say.
1505
01:34:14.460 --> 01:34:16.860
And so it was, I came to my car,
1506
01:34:17.445 --> 01:34:22.245
I was sitting down, pouring rain, and I thought like, I
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01:34:23.125 --> 01:34:23.844
did it.
1508
01:34:24.805 --> 01:34:27.925
It didn't hold me back from doing this stuff.
1509
01:34:28.325 --> 01:34:30.005
The same thing when I take a shower.
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01:34:30.560 --> 01:34:31.440
Nowadays,
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01:34:31.440 --> 01:34:36.720
I take my shower, my nice warm shower, but in the end, I will do my
1512
01:34:36.960 --> 01:34:39.280
ice cold shower. Yeah, exactly.
1513
01:34:44.045 --> 01:34:48.684
You gotta get out of the comfort zone and then the magic happens.
1514
01:34:49.005 --> 01:34:49.885
And
1515
01:34:49.965 --> 01:34:53.324
the feeling that you have is so great.
1516
01:34:53.724 --> 01:34:55.885
Like, wow, I conquered
1517
01:34:55.885 --> 01:35:02.260
cold water. Like, come on, dude, what did you just say? Yeah, I conquered cold water. Like one minute.
1518
01:35:02.739 --> 01:35:05.620
Oh, you're still alive? Are you still alive because of But the cold
1519
01:35:06.500 --> 01:35:18.775
the thing is we are so programmed like, oh no, I want to have a hot shower. Like, yeah, really? Yeah, comfort Do we need to? Wrong kind of thing. Comfort zone, comfort, yeah. Well, I'm going to have to go out and walk on some acorns. That's I
1520
01:35:19.255 --> 01:35:19.974
can say.
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01:35:22.135 --> 01:35:30.130
Easy close before I head out to walk barefoot on acorns, could tell people in case they're interested how to get the books, do you think? Because I'm gonna have to
1522
01:35:30.690 --> 01:35:31.010
Yes,
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01:35:32.130 --> 01:35:33.409
on some acorns.
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01:35:34.050 --> 01:35:35.730
And I got some cold shower.
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01:35:39.015 --> 01:35:39.975
Alright,
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01:35:39.975 --> 01:35:44.695
Julie. It's it's such a pleasure to talk to you. It's
1527
01:35:44.695 --> 01:35:46.534
a great podcast. And
1528
01:35:47.255 --> 01:35:50.695
please tell people where they can find you and
1529
01:35:51.030 --> 01:35:53.350
how they can contact you and all
1530
01:35:53.590 --> 01:35:56.310
the stuff. Well, I mean, in general,
1531
01:35:57.510 --> 01:35:59.350
you can go to julielavender.com
1532
01:35:59.350 --> 01:36:02.150
and there's different themes and stuff.
1533
01:36:02.470 --> 01:36:09.284
And one of them is it takes you to the questcom,
1534
01:36:09.445 --> 01:36:11.044
thequestforwonder.com.
1535
01:36:11.204 --> 01:36:16.885
And actually there's a little QR code, maybe you'll put it up and he'll show you a little picture of the books.
1536
01:36:17.284 --> 01:36:21.764
But there, I have the first three books out now and the other two will be shippable
1537
01:36:22.030 --> 01:36:26.510
before Christmas. And then I have a book on emotional healing that's coming out in January.
1538
01:36:26.830 --> 01:36:32.030
But if you do, yes, they're on Amazon, okay? But I'm telling you, pay more there.
1539
01:36:32.350 --> 01:36:36.590
And if you go to thequestforwonder.com,
1540
01:36:37.455 --> 01:36:47.454
I have these book bundles because I can ship directly and give people a much better deal on these. They're magazine quality, they're full of illustrations, they're not consumables.
1541
01:36:47.775 --> 01:36:48.415
They're like
1542
01:36:50.190 --> 01:36:52.989
the kind of book you want in your library for thirty years for generations
1543
01:36:53.310 --> 01:36:54.030
of kids.
1544
01:36:54.350 --> 01:37:03.790
If you want, if you're interested, you can go there. You can get the books that are out now. You can pre order the ones that are coming that takes you all through the weather weaponry and the World Economic Forum
1545
01:37:06.275 --> 01:37:08.675
the tea party on the ceiling. And,
1546
01:37:09.395 --> 01:37:11.475
you know, I also have a,
1547
01:37:11.715 --> 01:37:12.275
yeah.
1548
01:37:12.995 --> 01:37:16.114
So that's good. Just go to the questforwonder.com.
1549
01:37:16.195 --> 01:37:17.795
You can look julielavender.com
1550
01:37:17.795 --> 01:37:20.409
if you want a larger story, But, you
1551
01:37:20.730 --> 01:37:22.170
know, and join
1552
01:37:22.410 --> 01:37:22.969
in
1553
01:37:23.530 --> 01:37:28.650
the journey of how story can heal your soul and empower your kids.
1554
01:37:29.370 --> 01:37:30.170
Wow.
1555
01:37:30.410 --> 01:37:33.530
Wow. I'm going to post it definitely
1556
01:37:33.705 --> 01:37:39.705
description. And also I'm going to edit it with the QR code so people that are looking to this video,
1557
01:37:39.945 --> 01:37:43.545
they can scan a QR code. And of course, the links are in the description.
1558
01:37:43.945 --> 01:37:44.745
Julius,
1559
01:37:44.905 --> 01:37:53.170
thank you so much for hopping on this organized production. I hope you had a great time. I did for sure. Time flies when you're wow. It's loud. This is amazing.
1560
01:37:53.650 --> 01:37:56.210
Yeah. Time does not exist at
1561
01:37:56.450 --> 01:38:02.210
Disorganized Productions at all. You're sitting at a at a light, a red light, and it exists, I have to tell you.
1562
01:38:02.965 --> 01:38:03.605
Right?
1563
01:38:04.005 --> 01:38:07.125
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you so much, Julie.
1564
01:38:07.285 --> 01:38:08.724
And for all the
1565
01:38:09.125 --> 01:38:12.724
fellow listeners, for all the fellow humans, I hope you enjoyed this episode.
1566
01:38:12.885 --> 01:38:16.885
Leave a like and comment on the show. It really helps me tremendously.
1567
01:38:17.719 --> 01:38:22.039
For all the people that are already sponsoring it. I love it that
1568
01:38:22.440 --> 01:38:25.159
we can pull out more shows and
1569
01:38:25.800 --> 01:38:32.525
let's share it to the world that we have something to say here at Disorganized Productions. And for this episode,
1570
01:38:32.525 --> 01:38:35.405
it's not chaos creates harmony, but creativity
1571
01:38:35.885 --> 01:38:36.764
creates
1572
01:38:36.764 --> 01:38:37.565
harmony.
1573
01:38:37.565 --> 01:38:39.164
Thank you so much, Julie.
1574
01:38:40.045 --> 01:38:40.844
Thank you.
1575
01:38:47.860 --> 01:38:49.219
So we
1576
01:38:49.219 --> 01:38:50.419
just talked to
1577
01:38:50.659 --> 01:38:52.260
to Julie, and
1578
01:38:52.500 --> 01:38:56.419
we have briefly a conversation after we did the podcast. And
1579
01:38:56.980 --> 01:39:03.455
she is such a lovely person, and not not only that. There are so many things I can resonate with,
1580
01:39:03.935 --> 01:39:06.335
what she is writing down in the books,
1581
01:39:07.135 --> 01:39:08.335
the way she
1582
01:39:08.815 --> 01:39:09.855
tries to
1583
01:39:10.255 --> 01:39:15.455
make people aware of things, especially in this world where we're living in right now.
1584
01:39:15.935 --> 01:39:16.815
And
1585
01:39:17.080 --> 01:39:17.880
I'm very
1586
01:39:18.440 --> 01:39:19.159
honored
1587
01:39:19.560 --> 01:39:21.800
that I have so many
1588
01:39:22.440 --> 01:39:23.320
guests,
1589
01:39:24.040 --> 01:39:25.160
131
1590
01:39:25.160 --> 01:39:30.360
episodes in already, with so many different kinds of conversations.
1591
01:39:31.665 --> 01:39:32.625
It's
1592
01:39:32.625 --> 01:39:38.304
not that you're gonna say disorganized productions will be in the politics or in
1593
01:39:39.105 --> 01:39:39.824
religion
1594
01:39:39.985 --> 01:39:41.425
or in conspiracy.
1595
01:39:41.425 --> 01:39:43.425
No. No. There's so many people
1596
01:39:43.920 --> 01:39:45.599
that I like to talk to.
1597
01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:49.119
And, I I just want to thank you
1598
01:39:49.520 --> 01:39:52.880
from the bottom of my heart for listening to this show.
1599
01:39:53.360 --> 01:39:53.920
And,
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01:39:54.960 --> 01:39:59.074
yeah, I'll all wish you, fellow humans, a beautiful,
1601
01:39:59.315 --> 01:40:00.514
magical day.
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01:40:00.835 --> 01:40:01.155
And,
1603
01:40:02.995 --> 01:40:09.475
I see you or hear you or you hear me next time. Alright? Have a brilliant, magical day. Ciao.
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