#131 Creativity Creates Harmony: Fear, Healing, and The Quest for Wonder with Julie Lavender LeDoux

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Welcome
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to Disorganized
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Productions,
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where chaos creates harmony.
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Exploring ideas beyond the ordinary,
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where every episode is a journey.
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and a deep dive
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into our belief system.
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Alright.
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Hey, fellow human. Welcome to another episode of Disorganized Productions episode 131.
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And today, I have someone with me who,
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stories touches on something we talk about quite often on this podcast.
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What happens
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when you stop allowing fear
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to decide who you are? And for one time, we have a new slogan. Instead of chaos creates harmony,
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it will be creativity
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creates harmony.
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My guest today is Julie Lavender Ledoux.
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I hope I pronounced it all right. And Julie is an author,
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musician,
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visual artist,
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performer,
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and public speaker.
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But behind all those titles is much more interesting story.
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For years, Julie struggled with deep deep
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now now I'm struggling by by the word, debilitating
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fear and performance anxiety.
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Yet instead of allowing that fear to define the boundaries of her life, she eventually turned it into a part of her creative journey.
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That journey has taken her through music,
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painting,
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writing and broadcasting.
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She founded Dream Farm Radio,
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created music that brings together jazz,
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spirituality
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and art,
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and became the author of The Amazing Series,
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stories that encourage young people to question conformity,
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think for themselves,
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live
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courageously,
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and rediscover something Julie calls wonder.
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And that wonder,
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that word wonder is probably a good place for
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us to begin,
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because
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maybe growing up isn't supposed to mean losing our imagination,
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our curiosity,
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or the courage to be different.
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Today, we're gonna have a talk about fear,
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creativity,
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trauma,
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purpose,
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freedom,
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and what it actually
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means to find your wonder.
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Welcome.
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Julie, also called the wet, peeled Mary Popkins,
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to Disorganized Productions.
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I like how you say that. It's it's lavender is of color, Julie lavender ladoo.
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And it's, in case your audience,
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wants to hear that again, it's the red pilled
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Mary Poppins.
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What does that possibly mean?
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Right?
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That's a What does that have to do with anything you just said? I guess we're gonna have to figure it out.
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Oh, I think I think we're gonna we're gonna
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cover that up in in in the in the talk that we have right now. So, again, welcome, Julie, for for being on Disorganized Productions.
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So
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the amazing series. That's that's one of the things that,
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you heard
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when you were struggling in in a time. I hope I'm I'm I'm right with this. And you heard something like
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missus missus amazing
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and the seed.
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And then your journey started. Please tell us about it.
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Well, it was in a very dark time when our oldest child decided to throw away everything that we had pour that we had risked the most to give him.
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It's a dark night of the soul.
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And it was part of a journey of overcoming fear
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because I was a fearful little
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girl, a fearful, you know, older girl, a fearful mother and wife.
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And it just went so much, that was the word that defined me in so many ways.
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And so there was like looking, and there are many worse fear moments where I've had to look that thing in the eye,
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come out the other end into the wonder you're talking about.
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But this was
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the one that hit close to home. So I was grieving
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and I saw this woman in my mind who,
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snot coming out of her nose, she was tissues stuffed in her shirt, and
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I heard the words Mrs. Amazing and the Seed.
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Had no idea what that had to do with anything
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that I was going through. And wound up going to the page and writing
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what became
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essentially the origin story of this family.
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The one family in an entirely color blind town that can see color
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Because they interact with a supernatural realm called wonder. And what that had to do with anything in my life at the time, what that had to do with
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the problem and the crisis and the fear, I honestly did not know.
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And yet the page, going to the page and finding out who is this woman? Why is she Mrs. Amazing?
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What does the seed have to do with anything?
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And
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it's been a really intriguing journey to find out.
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So
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it seems like
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the brightness of Constance. Right? That's the the the main character of the of the of the books that you've been written.
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So
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she sees color.
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Is this something that you can
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back in the days when when you were struggling with these with these grief and stuff like that,
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project it like, I want to be that that person because the rest is is this dark
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space where I'm in?
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Well, you know what? At the moment that I was writing, I was dealing with what I think is a universal
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struggle that parents go through. What if the one thing you risk the most
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to give to your children
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they decide they don't want?
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That's probably one of the deepest heartbreaks a parent will And ever then it goes into the fear of did I fail and what did I do? And I had all these other background fears,
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the paralyzing
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stage fright.
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I mean, the fear of relationships, intimacy, honesty, you know, the whole thing. I mean, had it.
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Name a fear, I probably had it, except for not the fear buttons. Apparently that's a thing.
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There's clearly a specific phobia that has something to do with buttons. And that one I didn't have.
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In any event,
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was
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talking, I was writing about
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this pain and this deep fear that that you've
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messed up your kid or
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the thing that you've you literally have bled heart and soul to to give to your kids, to share with your kids, and they throw it away and and and don't want it. It's such a deep pain.
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And so I began to write the story.
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It started with Mrs. Amazing, who was anything but amazing.
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Her name was Faye Faltzem, I mean very faulted. And it tells her story in the dark night of the soul of this of this journey in great gray in a great gray world.
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How she and her husband
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are being are nonconforming
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to
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the order, the prescribed
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order.
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And how everyone else who conforms loses their ability to see color. And how they can see something.
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And because of this realm of wonder that they don't understand they can see color.
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And that makes them different. So they do different things with their kids. And they risk running
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afoul of the establishment
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control,
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which I think we can all begin to feel more clearly now than ever before. That's a real thing.
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Absolutely. And so they risk everything to give their kids this colorful world. But that makes the children
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essentially
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not fit in,
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non conforming kids.
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And the pain, the cost,
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the journey,
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what happens when this one family's ability to see what other people don't see and their children are raising up to see and be different? What happens if that actually costs them one of their kids, like Constance?
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And that was the origin story behind Mrs. Amazing and the Seed, which was sort of my first book.
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And then someone read it and went, wow, you really got something here. Can you tell us
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bring the kids to a younger age and bring us into the story?
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And so then the Amazings
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series began because this is just one weird little family. They're only amazing
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because of the realm of wonder. And
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wonder is not just an idea in a book.
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It's a realm and it really exists. And
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so
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I began to write back into the story of how did they get to this place with this older kid who doesn't want what they have anymore?
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And how did that develop? And what were the systems? What were the puppet masters? What were the controlling forces?
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What's going on behind the scenes that makes seeing color such a threat?
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And so, wow.
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And I started writing that in 2020,
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and when you didn't see what other people didn't want you to see. Right?
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Got You
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got, now the story of Constance in general, that was a few years before and I worked through some issues and fears, but it led me to writing this
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epic
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story,
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the truth story of what's happened to us in the twenty first century.
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In metaphor,
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the conformist
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gray people
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who conform to the prescribed
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order.
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Uh-huh,
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they got it.
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And then there's the fit there's one family in an entirely color blind town that can see color. And they don't even really know they don't get it. They just know they do. And they have they know the realm of wonder is real, but they have no idea what a threat they are. They have no idea what's at stake.
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And Constance
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just wants to go to school with the other kids and make some friends, and she has no idea
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that the decision she makes will affect the destiny of her entire town.
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That's just the opener. And then I began to unpack,
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geez, by book five I'm taking on the world economic forum.
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And,
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you know, that's a fierce, you know, dealing with these topics
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in real time
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where it's costing people
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deeply
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to think differently and speak Right.
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And children.
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This,
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you know,
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fortunately,
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because I had begun to deal with these core other fears
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of relationship and failure and intimacy
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and creativity and performance anxiety,
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it preparing
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me
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to write courageous
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books
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for a generation of kids waking up in a world that
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no one could have imagined
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what's
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been unpacked, the Pandora's box before us now in the world. Right?
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And so I had to become
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someone who lived out of wonder instead of fear
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to write about it. Right? Right.
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It seems to be seems to be that these stories are not only for kids because I think that a lot of people can relate to
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seeing colors,
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and a lot of people around them are
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the blind ones or the the ones that see gray and black. Right? Mhmm. Mhmm. Sometimes you just wanna
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I have one book where they they won't allow people to to see colors, they make them wear gray glasses all the time, you know, just in case they see color and might get sick and die, you know?
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Gotta put some on your face to keep you safe. The way you you Thank you, Grace.
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So I think if if you if you make an adult book, that that will be banned, you know, because they don't want to to have this kind of stuff out.
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It's interesting what you said about these are for adults because these books are healing. Like, when
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I don't know where you wanna jump in where,
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but it is all part of a story of
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of overcoming trauma and and and living out of great courage,
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which doesn't mean you don't feel afraid, it just means you learn
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to believe in a bigger truth than your feelings, right?
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Right.
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So
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after all of the things going on in my life that brought me into
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wholeness,
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now I'm writing books and I don't know honestly if my characters will survive because we're living it in real time, everything that happened
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in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two.
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And everything
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around us,
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puppet masters notching down
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to
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control
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thoughts, feeling, ideas, speech, medical choices,
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you know.
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And so I began to unpack this through this metaphor and this family and the elders of the order behind the scenes.
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how
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and sometimes when I talk to families about this, kids will pull on their mom's shirt and go, that's just like what we went through, mom. That's like, that's how it felt when we were locked in our houses and they were telling us, you know, we could kill grandma, you know, if we were on her, you know?
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And
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and people
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just going along conforming whatever they whatever they were told to do, just conform because the experts
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experts know everything, Rob? Right.
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Once qualified to tell us how how everything should go and how dangerous and how unstable that was. Well,
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I'm telling this truth story. I'm the Mary Poppins that woke up in the twenty first century and took the red pill from the Matrix movie
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Uh-huh.
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And used the spoonful of wonder to write these books.
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Because
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Mary Poppins, remember how she had a spoonful of sugar to help the medicine go down?
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Alright. I got a I've got a spoonful of wonder
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to help people understand the World Economic Forum.
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Kids, you know me like Somebody's gotta tell them. Somebody's gotta tell them. That's the we look at that. That's a large structure of powerful people who seek a form of dominion and control through conformity and through through people who are willing to give away
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something for safety or
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insurance or,
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you know. Especially freedom,
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Guaranteed you income
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know,
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that is a that's a reality. And it also plays out
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in relationships when you see the controllers, the manipulators,
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and you see how much we as human beings
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are willing to give away just
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to feel safe and included,
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and how that's
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used against us.
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And so how do you create resilient kids in a world
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they're following everything we do and
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everything we say? Do you know, how do you create kids
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for the hour? How grow do up amazing kids
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that
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can look that in the eye? See,
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part of what this is, is that I just think there's some conversations
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you can't avoid.
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If your dog dies and gets run over, you don't just never tell your kid.
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If you wake up in a world like we woke up in,
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those are conversations
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we have to talk about.
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And yet we must never doom our children or ourselves.
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be able to think,
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is wonder enough? Is that reality and what that means? Is that enough for a time that possibly be this dark and scary
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and manipulative
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and corrupt?
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so I begin to ask those questions
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because I think kids
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need,
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and because true,
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real stories are healing to the soul. And it's funny because adults and kids will process
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deeply through my books.
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And they'll find that there's emotional healing coming to them and their kids because
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of the way they're written. Hilarious, heart pumping, you know,
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powerful, pushing books.
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Because you can, in a great story,
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you can work out a lot of your issues.
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Know, I'm another character.
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Right? And so that's part of what what I love to see happen. Right.
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And it's it's really hard nowadays because there's so many
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distortion
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for kids when it comes to education,
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when it comes to society,
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when it comes to social media
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about how they have to behave, how they have to think,
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which is going to make it worse for the most parents also because kids are normally
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less home,
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but at other people. And these other people decide what they're going to learn and how they're going to be indoctrinated by the things that
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the system wants.
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when you relate that to when they read the book and they're going to think for themselves and they know you have to believe in yourself
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and there are wonders out there and there is no fear,
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You have to
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unlock that. Just like you say, you have to unlock that
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button.
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Like, okay, this is the button where I was supposed to go normally. But wait a minute, hold on.
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There's something else.
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What causes this fear? What causes this disbelief
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to
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eventually
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waking up or being aware of what's happening?
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Right.
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Exactly. And,
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you know, part of my original story was this
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child that
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originally started my writing did not understand
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at the time
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what we were giving him that he would need in order to stand
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in a time of this great deception,
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control, manipulation,
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and God knows what else, you know, that
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is being cooked up out there. And
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the pain and the cost of being different. So my books are deeply,
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deeply about helping kids and families understand the importance of nonconformity.
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What does that look like to be a nonconforming,
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free thinking,
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not somebody who doesn't contribute to community.
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You know, we want to be connected to No, it's a different thing, yeah. And
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I do give up my rights
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regularly to let someone go ahead of me in line, you know, to give someone an opportunity to speak that I disagree with.
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Or, you know,
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I do lay down my life and my rights and my freedoms out of love and concern and caring for people. But that's not the same is that the same thing
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as
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being funneled into a single,
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or a set of
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beliefs
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and
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series of propaganda and manipulative things to create behaviors in me that make me less of a threat
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to
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establishment
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forces?
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Do we have the guts to not conform?
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You know, we had to decide, I decided I was going be the one in the store without the mask. Sorry.
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And do I have the guts to be screamed at by the Karen with the two masks?
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Do I have the guts?
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And why? I had to know why. I had to think what I thought and learn what I needed to learn.
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that
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one image of the mask
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was probably one of the most powerful
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metaphors
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and symbols
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because it spoke to just about everything.
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Shutting you up.
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Making
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you
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safe,
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right?
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No identity. Believed who you and no identity,
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no breath.
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one thing is such a power. So, that's a metaphor, right?
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I had to fly on a plane a couple of times, because I'd drive rather than get on a plane, I wore a big t shirt that said masks equal mind control.
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because you know, you're not going to shut me up on this one. Right? Right.
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But you take that as a symbol.
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What that did to people. How powerful that was.
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day to day people had to wake up and decide, do I have the courage to leave my house and interact with the public without that on my face?
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To me that was a line in the sand.
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And you could tell immediately
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I did door knocking to find other people who not
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afraid to be together during that time. And I could tell instantly based on how they responded to me when I was at their door without a mask on.
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Everyone
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goes, well, was then. No, but think about it. Think about something you get up every day willing to do
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when it makes you feel unsafe because everybody's screaming at you. Right?
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But the problem is also nobody
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questioned it. They just went with the flow of what they said without thinking like,
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What am I doing?
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Even back
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in the days when I was having some very critical questions about what's happening,
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People were just shutting that down. Like, no. You just have to listen.
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You just have to do.
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No.
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I don't have to. It's always all the the I'm sorry. I got this wonderful sunlight. I'm going to look like I have a halo. Yeah, you're going to have a halo.
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It's
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following me around the room. There we go.
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Yes. And see, in my stories, which is
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look, I got a lot of ways I can talk to people about healing and wholeness. But I'm really concerned about the next generation right now. Because our kids believe a lot of stuff about what happened to them.
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And I wanna be someone who tells them the truth about it in a way that doesn't terrorize them, but empowers them.
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Right. And gets them thinking, you know what? I'm not alone.
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There is help. There is there is resource outside of the human condition
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for dealing with this kind of stuff.
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And so in my books this is one family in this color blind town
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that knows they're different, but they're not thinking too deeply about it. They just like color. So what's the big I like color. You don't like color. You're gray, whatever. I'll plant flowers. You know?
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They wake up one day and realize that everyone around them,
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a reason why they don't see.
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And consequences
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of seeing hit them. And they realize they're
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waking up. My family starts out in the books as normies.
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They're just normies. They're like, hey, you know, okay, you do your thing, I'll do my thing, until until one day doing my thing is not okay.
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Mhmm.
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Because the establishment doesn't like that I'm not doing. You know? That is a very,
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deeply traumatizing
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thing to a human being to realize that just by you thinking and seeing and
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believing,
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you're in danger of the of the group.
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Mhmm.
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So so did it also help you
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writing this book,
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writing this down with your own, let's call it, trauma about what happened to your family?
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Mhmm.
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It did because, see, in the end, you know, with this, the trauma I talked about that got me writing
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Mrs. Amazing and the Seed,
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I had to have the courage
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to stand my ground with
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my son.
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And wait it out and
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stay in
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faith essentially,
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and
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be willing
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to pay the cost,
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the price
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of giving him what we still believe was in his best interest. But he you know, people feel like this. They were raised in a church and they don't want to go anymore. Or you're this and that and I just throw it under the bus. Why? Because again that cultural
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thing is testing what we give our children at all times.
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Culture and establishment
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and media is testing
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everything
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you want to give your children.
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And so
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we to
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work that through. We had to grieve that. We had to work through to, I mean, and the good news is that our son
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came back one day and said, Oh my gosh, mom, now I get what you were trying to do.
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Know, but he's always the key to push back. You know, he's good because he keeps me, you know,
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really thinking and making sure that what I'm saying, you know, he's gonna give me feedback, which is so healthy.
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But,
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you know,
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once you get to the point where you realize
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there is something so deeply disturbing about
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puppet master
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control within culture
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that I better have a bigger story to tell my kids.
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And it better come out of a place that's going to give them
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joy and
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excitement and clarity.
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Because
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otherwise,
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they're going to live out of another story.
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They got a big, fat, ugly story in 2020.
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They taught us to live out of a horrendous set
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of lies.
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somebody's got to tell our kids the truth about what happened in a way that's not like, okay, we're gonna now we're gonna take apart communism or this ism or that. No. Stay in metaphor.
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Stay in story.
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Because once you get those things in you, you'll see it everywhere.
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And in my books, the family's like, hey. Is that weird? You know, why are they why is this happening? Why are they doing that? And they be they awaken in the book.
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Then they begin other people around them begin to awaken.
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And it's very exciting what happens. And it's totally true. I mean, like, I am I'm telling that I'm telling
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what's what and what continues to happen. I'm telling that. People
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who read these books are especially with their kids are going to be like, man,
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she prepped us for reality.
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But in a wonderful
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way,
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know, like there's nobody else doing this essentially because you can write good and evil stories. But to unpack the specifics of of what I'm doing is it's just I mean,
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Mary Poppinsy. You know? She's she's gonna come in and give you the truth. And then by the time you're done, you're gonna have a tea party on the ceiling. And that's that's what I do because
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joy is a is a powerful
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strength. Right?
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Absolutely.
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Yeah. Right. And and and they took away so much things.
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They took away so much things and
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the control system, the mechanism where they work with the psychology,
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what they did with the people.
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And and nowadays, you see you see everything's coming back when it comes to these
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courts, you know, with with Fauci and all these people that are
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that they were the the people that causes this shit. Right? Yep. Right.
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And I think I truly think that
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a lot of people woke up
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or were more more aware of what's going on, especially the last couple of
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maybe two, three years because of the media and all the things that they tried to shut down
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no matter what you what kind of topic that it is. They want to to to to to Mhmm. To tell you, like, we're gonna shut you down your your channel. You can't talk about that stuff and all that stuff. But now all of a sudden, it all comes out because they can't hold it.
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And I think if you
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get the awareness of the people about what the hell is going on with so many things, it's not only just like you said twenty twenty. It's all these things combined together. Like, what A shit show. Let's get some popcorn.
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Let's get a beer and just watch it unfold because I know. It's it's amazing.
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It's amazing. And it's astonishing how many people are still living in this fear mongery
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that they try to you know? What was it like a few months ago, like with this ship on the the hantavirus,
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and it's gonna kill everyone over nothing.
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All of a sudden, nobody's gonna buy it. And I think, just like you said, when you're writing a book, child's book, and people or children reading it and thinking for themselves,
494
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wait a minute,
495
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I'm the one who sees the color.
496
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I'm the one who wants to think different. I want to, you know, I want to have this wonder in my life, and I can choose for the wonder. Right. That's amazing, Julie. That's amazing. And you see,
497
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you know, I dare to think, believe, and experience that wonder, the supernatural
498
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reality of wonder
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is it's real. So I'm not I'm not creating, you know,
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the Emerald City here. You know?
501
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Just like C. S. Lewis when he was talking, he was talking about very, very real things. He was using metaphor to help people understand something that's even more real than our realm. And that's what the realm of wonder is.
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00:31:10.115 --> 00:31:14.275
And I take this family through every single thing that
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we experienced
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from like 2019
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through,
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you know, to present day,
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but using metaphor.
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So, and
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you've got to ask yourself,
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how the heck am I going to create kids that I can even talk to about this?
511
00:31:30.679 --> 00:31:37.555
And most people just want to memory hole it and go, well I just don't want to feel that again. And I know it was horrible. I mean, I
512
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I was shocked
513
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at everyone around me who was just, well,
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God would want you to wear a mask. God, you know, if you're really this, or if you really care about people, you're going to take that thing, and you're going to jab yourself. You just want to go,
515
00:31:53.039 --> 00:32:14.215
you're scaring me now. I mean really scary. Like I was shocked at the people that just went right down that thing. And so in the books I unpack how does that happen? What's going on behind the scenes? And this family's discovering it. How systems work. How tyranny works. How propaganda works. So remember I told you color
516
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is
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so important.
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And they're behind the scenes. And I gave you some pictures and you might want to throw some in here at some point, but the evil elders of the order,
519
00:32:25.250 --> 00:32:28.529
they want everybody to conform to the prescribed
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order operation,
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the poo.
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The
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poo?
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You called it the poo? They want everyone conforming to the poo.
525
00:32:41.105 --> 00:32:47.760
Right. And so you got to have a great sense of humor, right? You got to laugh. You got to have so much fun when you read a book. Anyway,
526
00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:53.760
you know, and they hate it when people see color because people who can see color are not far from wonder.
527
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People who experience wonder won't conform to the poo.
528
00:32:59.760 --> 00:33:02.964
The kids are having so much fun reading all this stuff.
529
00:33:03.365 --> 00:33:08.724
Well, what happens if this one family does so many extraordinary things just by
530
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questioning and experiencing
531
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wonder? What happens if other people in the town of Greystone Heights start seeing color?
532
00:33:18.419 --> 00:33:21.059
The elders of the orders, they say, you know what?
533
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We won't tell them they haven't seen color. We'll just tell them what it means.
534
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And they tell everybody that color is a symptom of a plague that could kill you.
535
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So you have to wear Oh, wow.
536
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Glasses
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on your face at all times to protect you from seeing even a speck of color or you could die.
538
00:33:41.934 --> 00:33:44.255
My god. It reminds me a little
539
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it reminds me a little bit of
540
00:33:47.790 --> 00:33:50.510
what's that movie with the glasses? They lie?
541
00:33:51.310 --> 00:33:58.285
Oh, there's several of them out there. Yeah. Where the guy sees the the demons, the puppet masters. Yeah.
542
00:33:59.165 --> 00:34:05.965
Exactly. Like They want they don't want anyone to see color. Right? So they want you color blind because you'll conform.
543
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So the first step is to tell everybody color could kill you. It's part of a disease. It's now come to our town, so we gotta have mandates to protect y'all from this disease.
544
00:34:14.850 --> 00:34:21.810
So you gotta put this thing on your face. And I even have a character named Karen who wears two pairs of glasses
545
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just to make sure she never sees a speck of color. It's hilarious.
546
00:34:26.865 --> 00:34:33.345
Evil actually Wow. Is kind of so funny and silly, you know, sometimes what they where they go with it. Anyways,
547
00:34:33.825 --> 00:34:46.560
well, so what happens when the family sits down and they're like, you know, that's really weird because could could color really kill you? And is there really anything you could just slap on your face that would protect you from a microscopic biohazard?
548
00:34:46.560 --> 00:34:51.520
Probably not. And they, and so the kid in the family starts a starts a newspaper
549
00:34:52.745 --> 00:35:01.545
to talk about this. Well, what could possibly happen, Rob, if you're the one family in in in the gray town that starts a newspaper that's that's,
550
00:35:01.625 --> 00:35:07.610
you know, challenging the narrative? What could possibly happen? Do you think they went through some things like we went through?
551
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Oh.
552
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Yeah.
553
00:35:10.490 --> 00:35:13.050
I'm unpacking the trauma of propaganda
554
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and free speech,
555
00:35:14.890 --> 00:35:24.805
and I unpack in a previous book the the abuse of science, the corruption of science, the corruption of education. They all this and family is just kinda like, so they start having these conversations.
556
00:35:25.204 --> 00:35:26.484
Well, what is in
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in book three, propaganda is called might call it bombastic
558
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baffle gab.
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Bombastic who? Baffle gab.
560
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Baffle gab. Wow.
561
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That's actually really fun words for propaganda.
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So book three is is.
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Constance in Charleston
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and the bombastic baffle gab. So we start then kids have to start going Love it. They're having a conversation. Why are they saying the same thing? Why can't you ask any questions?
565
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What is propaganda?
566
00:35:57.015 --> 00:36:02.055
And so we start unpacking that with these fun words and great vocabulary and this experience
567
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and the cost they pay for telling the truth.
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Not pulling
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any punches here.
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And how does wonder, how does this realm of the supernatural interact with what they're dealing with?
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And so
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in this book, where they're telling everybody there's a plague
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that could kill you. Because really, that they want
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they just want to get everybody funneled into a control system
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But like we experienced,
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they're using it through this plague, the color disease, you know. And so they have a center for color control
577
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called the CCC.
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And guess who's guess who's the commissioner of the center for color control in my book?
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Miss
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Anthropomorphia
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Slouchy.
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Anthropomorphia.
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Love that. Commissioner of the center for color control, the CCC, and it's telling everybody the rules to stay safe.
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00:37:01.570 --> 00:37:08.050
Know? And this is where but it's it touches home. Like, if you lived through these years, you'll go, wow.
585
00:37:08.609 --> 00:37:13.570
But thirty years from now, people will pick up these books and go, oh my gosh. That is exactly what we went through.
586
00:37:14.355 --> 00:37:17.315
Yeah. And then in book four, what happens when these
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elders
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roll out the safety drops to make you permanently color blind and immune to color?
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What if some of those drops blind some kids?
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That's exactly what we're living through, the fallout
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of the abuse
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of medical procedures
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to keep them the tunnel. How do you talk to your kids about that? Are you talking to your kids right now?
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About
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problems?
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I'm asking your audience. Are any of you seriously
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talking to your kids
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about,
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you know, depopulation
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propaganda mind control? Really? Are you having those conversations with your kids without terrifying them? Well,
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I
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can help you.
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Because Mary the Redfield Mary Poppins has the spoonful of wonder.
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And then what happens when when the
605
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when you have serious
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injuries
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that don't go away with a flick of a and they all lived happy ever after in your book? Mhmm. How do we have these conversations with our kids? And then what when they change the narrative and they say, know what?
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That disease
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00:38:30.650 --> 00:38:39.530
thing isn't working to terrorize any people anymore. Why don't we pull out our next narrative? You know, like, the whole planet's gonna burn up in in climate
610
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alteration,
611
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you know?
612
00:38:41.765 --> 00:38:55.980
And Mhmm. But don't worry because we got you. We've got the system that's gonna keep everybody safe with the same amount of money coming into your house, and you're gonna love the bug sandwiches we give you for lunch, you know? I mean, right? How you you Wake up.
613
00:38:56.780 --> 00:38:58.220
Right? But see,
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I
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these are amazing
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narratives.
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And when you and the people who read my books, the kids the kids just eat them up. And the parents do because they're conversing and they're having conversations and they're getting That was my question. Yeah. Just like how do the parents react because the kids come home with or they are at home. They they they they
618
00:39:23.450 --> 00:39:25.930
they're reading it, but probably parents
619
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read it too. Like, woah. Wait a minute.
620
00:39:29.050 --> 00:39:33.370
This is something deeper. This is not just a childhood. It's it's for everyone.
621
00:39:33.895 --> 00:39:35.015
Yeah. To
622
00:39:35.095 --> 00:39:43.735
to to give them something to think about. You know, you question everything. Right? I mean I know. That's that. With your parent, you know, that that help, you know,
623
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your kids kinda process the information.
624
00:39:46.340 --> 00:39:47.700
But they're
625
00:39:47.700 --> 00:39:54.740
super, I mean, look, I write on a lot of levels. And I love kids stories. I love a great kids book.
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And when you can get the
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darkness
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and heavy weighty
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ideas out there with that spoonful of sugar, with that spoonful of wonder, with a laugh,
630
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with with
631
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with crazy characters,
632
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and and you can you can look the thing right in the eye. Do you, you know,
633
00:40:14.130 --> 00:40:18.290
I don't I hate Halloween, but the one thing I used to like about it as a kid was
634
00:40:18.849 --> 00:40:25.010
you you you as a kid, when you thought about it, you thought, well, it's all fake. I can look the ghost in the eye tonight.
635
00:40:25.250 --> 00:40:32.955
Right? Now you kinda know there's more of the dark side. But, you know, there's that kids love to laugh at what terrified them.
636
00:40:33.355 --> 00:40:37.675
Mhmm. And we as adults need to have to we we need to be able to laugh
637
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and go, that is the stupidest thing I ever heard. That is so dumb. Why don't we go see some color? Let's look at, you know, let's look at the alternative to the central narrative we're being funneled into. So laughter is healing. Wonder is healing. Story is healing. Because
638
00:40:53.450 --> 00:40:57.450
do you know what the single most
639
00:40:56.775 --> 00:41:00.775
significant thing that will determine how you do in life is?
640
00:41:04.055 --> 00:41:05.734
Single most important determinative
641
00:41:05.734 --> 00:41:10.680
thing about how you turn out in life is the story you believe about yourself. Oh,
642
00:41:10.680 --> 00:41:14.840
wow. Yeah. And the world around you and your purpose and all that.
643
00:41:15.560 --> 00:41:20.680
So you better be a big, beautiful, bold, amazing story that helps you decide
644
00:41:21.080 --> 00:41:24.280
you're willing to pay the price to go through the crap to get to the wonder.
645
00:41:25.685 --> 00:41:31.125
Right? Because a lot of people just aren't willing to pay the price because they don't have a big enough thing they're shooting for.
646
00:41:31.685 --> 00:41:34.165
Or believing in. Big beautiful things. Yeah.
647
00:41:34.645 --> 00:41:43.010
The true things. I'm not blowing smoke up anybody's shorts here. I mean, I'm telling the truth, but I'm also telling the truth about wonder and what it represents.
648
00:41:45.250 --> 00:41:49.250
So so you're now almost five books in. Am I right?
649
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The first
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series is
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10 to 14 ages, but roughly in adults, and that's
652
00:41:56.865 --> 00:42:02.545
is five books. And then I just am finishing book six, which is the beginning of the You series.
653
00:42:03.025 --> 00:42:03.665
Mhmm.
654
00:42:03.825 --> 00:42:05.665
Which the beginning of the You?
655
00:42:05.665 --> 00:42:06.465
Young adult.
656
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:08.840
Right. That's I was in high
657
00:42:10.760 --> 00:42:11.880
Okay. And
658
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:19.880
because and this is where I get into even more deeply the trauma healing things of the psyche of teenagers
659
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and adults
660
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And how these bad ideas,
661
00:42:24.055 --> 00:42:26.055
you know, are so soul marring,
662
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right?
663
00:42:27.734 --> 00:42:37.250
So there has to be, and also along the way one of my beautiful homeschool kids was sexually abused by another homeschooler. So I mean,
664
00:42:37.810 --> 00:42:39.410
this is part of our story.
665
00:42:40.369 --> 00:42:43.730
And so I've we've had in addition to my own issues,
666
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you know, in addition to the, you know, the 2020s,
667
00:42:49.330 --> 00:42:51.570
we've had to deal with some very
668
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utterly
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soul destroying pain.
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And I don't think it I think probably what we've dealt with is nothing compared to what a lot of people deal with.
671
00:43:04.580 --> 00:43:07.540
Right. Right. That But it it's abusive.
672
00:43:07.540 --> 00:43:09.620
It's Yeah. It's it's it's
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targeting the psyche of the people, the mind of the people to think different, to
674
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be normal,
675
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whatever that means.
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And
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00:43:20.525 --> 00:43:25.244
when you're gonna question that, you you're gonna realize you're not normal because you're thinking
678
00:43:27.565 --> 00:43:29.005
a little bit more
679
00:43:30.125 --> 00:43:34.605
not conspiracy, but just, like, thinking of
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what's the question and where can I ask some questions about this question? Right? People don't do that. And and what do you think is is is the main reason that we
681
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we we went through that? So I think part of it is the education system for sure. Mhmm. Part of it is religion,
682
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politics, all that stuff together.
683
00:43:55.435 --> 00:43:55.835
But
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do you think that we we we
685
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maybe back in the days in the sixties or seventies
686
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had more awareness
687
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of this kind of stuff, or is it been integrated like propaganda that we we
688
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do not have something
689
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to hold back on when it comes to the children? Because, you know, just like I said before,
690
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it seems that we have to
691
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choose to let our children be educated
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by other people, and we do know we don't know what they've been educated, what what what kind of belief system that they're going to to have.
693
00:44:30.970 --> 00:44:31.609
Right?
694
00:44:33.130 --> 00:44:39.769
Well, it depends on how far you wanna go to the to origins and roots. I mean, first of all, you have to deal with the there really is good and evil.
695
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And it and it's personal.
696
00:44:43.575 --> 00:44:45.335
Like, evil's personal.
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He has a name.
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You know, good as he has a name.
699
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Right.
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Right. You gotta really deal with that because Right. It's uncomfortable.
701
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But in my books
702
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and in my life and experience, start where you are
703
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and you
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have to decide
705
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what's it worth to me to become really free?
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Do I want to live like this forever?
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And I got to the point where it was like whatever it takes. I cannot afford to be a sick, broken, depressed,
708
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terrified person. I can't.
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And the other thing is you got to ask yourself,
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what would your kids give to see you free?
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Because
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I'm going to guarantee you
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that if you're depressed,
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upset, traumatized adult,
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00:45:35.720 --> 00:45:38.200
your kids want you to get well more than you do.
716
00:45:39.160 --> 00:45:42.535
Yeah, you're going to reflect to them, right? They're to absorb
717
00:45:42.855 --> 00:45:44.935
it as maybe as even
718
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that's the norm. That's normal. Yeah. So
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I think your original question was, where did it come from? Well, I've done some serious thinking about this, but this whole takedown of culture and programming people for a certain set of narratives,
720
00:45:58.950 --> 00:45:59.590
I mean,
721
00:46:00.790 --> 00:46:06.630
go back to the Titanic for gosh sakes. You know what I mean? Let's go back to There are so many things in history that end.
722
00:46:07.355 --> 00:46:08.315
Back to
723
00:46:09.115 --> 00:46:11.115
you know, the the CIA
724
00:46:11.115 --> 00:46:11.835
in
725
00:46:11.994 --> 00:46:19.835
in the nineteen sixties and the bringing in the drug and occult trade into The United States on purpose, you know. And it's interesting because
726
00:46:20.670 --> 00:46:27.470
the degree to which people were agrarian and at home with their families and working together gave them a resilience and an independence.
727
00:46:27.869 --> 00:46:30.590
But the minute you can get people funneled in the classrooms,
728
00:46:30.910 --> 00:46:38.195
aged, you know, a certain age, you're gonna stick all the people the same age, don't know anything else, but would all the other people their same age know,
729
00:46:38.515 --> 00:46:41.875
you know, and then teach them to be industrialized.
730
00:46:42.115 --> 00:46:44.835
Education systems are systems,
731
00:46:45.474 --> 00:46:47.635
you know, it's applauding
732
00:46:49.450 --> 00:46:51.130
journey toward tyranny.
733
00:46:51.690 --> 00:46:54.170
And evil is so calculated.
734
00:46:54.170 --> 00:47:02.570
It's willing to take, you know, a couple thousand years to finish what it wants to start. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we have to have that same kind of resilience
735
00:47:02.730 --> 00:47:03.610
that
736
00:47:04.335 --> 00:47:06.575
what I spend time doing today
737
00:47:06.815 --> 00:47:14.175
that breaks me out of that matrix is worth it and I'll just take another step tomorrow. You know, you're not going to stick me back in that hole. You're not, And
738
00:47:14.895 --> 00:47:18.095
so this is what I write about. These are my characters.
739
00:47:18.255 --> 00:47:21.250
This is the family. This is pain. This is the reality.
740
00:47:21.809 --> 00:47:24.290
Because I want people to know they're not alone.
741
00:47:25.170 --> 00:47:29.810
And we're all sort of waking up to a really interesting story.
742
00:47:30.130 --> 00:47:34.210
A really powerful I happen to think we live at the most amazing time ever.
743
00:47:34.914 --> 00:47:38.035
I think we're in a great, we're in a huge great awakening.
744
00:47:38.194 --> 00:47:41.315
But usually before a great awakening there's a rude
745
00:47:41.954 --> 00:47:42.915
awakening.
746
00:47:43.394 --> 00:47:43.954
Chaos.
747
00:47:44.755 --> 00:47:46.355
So it's
748
00:47:46.355 --> 00:47:47.555
like we got an alcoholic.
749
00:47:48.900 --> 00:47:50.740
When do they decide they want help?
750
00:47:51.060 --> 00:47:55.300
When they bottom out and wind up throwing up on the carpet and nobody's there to clean up for them.
751
00:47:55.940 --> 00:47:56.660
And
752
00:47:56.900 --> 00:47:58.580
there's been a sort of a
753
00:47:58.820 --> 00:47:59.940
catharsis
754
00:48:00.180 --> 00:48:01.220
realizing
755
00:48:02.015 --> 00:48:03.855
that we're waking up in
756
00:48:04.415 --> 00:48:05.535
our own vomit.
757
00:48:06.175 --> 00:48:07.535
You know, right. And
758
00:48:08.255 --> 00:48:08.975
going,
759
00:48:09.295 --> 00:48:11.135
wow, I guess maybe,
760
00:48:11.775 --> 00:48:13.775
and to the degree to which you're
761
00:48:13.775 --> 00:48:14.975
taught to be docile.
762
00:48:17.080 --> 00:48:19.400
Now be nice. Don't ask any They
763
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:24.440
would never do that. Would they do that for you? You and you know,
764
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:26.600
doctor would never, you know,
765
00:48:27.240 --> 00:48:38.915
do that. Of course not. You know, your priest would never sexually abuse your kid. Never. That couldn't happen, you know. And yet, I'll tell you, you get to the point where you you get free and you get whole and healed.
766
00:48:39.154 --> 00:48:45.670
And that's that's a him thing. That's a god thing too and integrating into all this. You know, you just realize
767
00:48:47.030 --> 00:48:49.110
no matter what they throw at me today,
768
00:48:49.750 --> 00:48:51.270
I've got a bigger resource.
769
00:48:51.830 --> 00:48:55.190
And this is what I'm teaching my kids, to live out of that resource.
770
00:48:55.430 --> 00:48:56.550
Teaching my kids
771
00:48:56.845 --> 00:48:57.485
that
772
00:49:00.205 --> 00:49:01.005
we're
773
00:49:01.005 --> 00:49:02.365
the winners in the story.
774
00:49:03.805 --> 00:49:15.970
How does that The bummer. You're asking a lot. These are deep, deep questions and you wrestle through because every family has their, you know, I taught on trauma healing and took people through trauma healing at homeschool conferences.
775
00:49:16.690 --> 00:49:17.250
And
776
00:49:17.730 --> 00:49:23.490
you you think the homeschooler just sitting at home in their cute little, you know, whatever. But the amount of trauma
777
00:49:24.605 --> 00:49:25.725
in a group
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00:49:26.045 --> 00:49:29.645
of, a subset of the culture that you'd think was
779
00:49:30.204 --> 00:49:31.645
protected,
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and perfect,
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00:49:33.325 --> 00:49:34.365
and churchy,
782
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and fine,
783
00:49:35.405 --> 00:49:35.964
and you know,
784
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it's
785
00:49:37.990 --> 00:49:39.030
jaw dropping.
786
00:49:39.430 --> 00:49:42.390
So we better have, you know, what do you think? Do you think
787
00:49:43.430 --> 00:49:44.310
it's time
788
00:49:45.029 --> 00:49:45.990
to really
789
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lay some foundations
790
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parents
791
00:49:49.270 --> 00:49:51.109
to get whole and heal and well?
792
00:49:51.755 --> 00:49:54.155
To bring stories that can handle this.
793
00:49:54.475 --> 00:49:55.995
And they're not just, you know,
794
00:49:57.675 --> 00:50:01.995
the knight on the white horse who fights the bad dragon. You know what I mean? Like that has, are,
795
00:50:02.715 --> 00:50:03.195
good,
796
00:50:03.515 --> 00:50:06.870
good, good, good. But I my my sores are more pointed
797
00:50:07.109 --> 00:50:09.190
because I think it's wake up time.
798
00:50:09.990 --> 00:50:21.805
Right. And I think a lot of people do not realize that there's also generational trauma. So it's not only the kids that suffer from it, but it's the parents that suffer from it. It's the great the the grandparents.
799
00:50:22.125 --> 00:50:23.405
So if you are
800
00:50:24.525 --> 00:50:30.525
I I've been on a journey for for my trauma, but then I realized like, wait a minute. It's not only my monkey.
801
00:50:30.765 --> 00:50:32.445
It's a whole circus
802
00:50:32.445 --> 00:50:37.920
that's been around for centuries that I have to clean up, right? Yeah. So
803
00:50:38.160 --> 00:50:43.520
and so that that's that's the thing that you have to realize like, okay, I can,
804
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:52.005
it's it's like a car. If you have a flat tire, you you you can repair the flat tire. But if there's something on the in the in the in the engine,
805
00:50:52.325 --> 00:51:04.810
it's just not the spark plugs. It's it's the whole engine you have to check out if there's not gonna be a problem afterwards because you you just can fix it on on the surface, but it is so deeply,
806
00:51:05.050 --> 00:51:06.490
so deeply woven.
807
00:51:06.809 --> 00:51:07.370
And
808
00:51:07.690 --> 00:51:12.569
especially when when it comes into indoctrination and belief system that people believing.
809
00:51:13.255 --> 00:51:16.135
And just like you said, like, you have to
810
00:51:16.455 --> 00:51:17.895
tell your story
811
00:51:18.375 --> 00:51:30.160
and with the with the full belief that you are living the best life or the wonders that are unfolding for you, but you have to believe it because otherwise, you're gonna be stuck in into something that's
812
00:51:30.160 --> 00:51:37.600
not gonna bring you very far in this world, especially in this world where so many fear and darkness is gonna be
813
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:40.320
projected on you. Right? Mhmm.
814
00:51:41.735 --> 00:51:47.255
Yeah. And, you know, the way I used to say it is fear has told you a story about yourself and it's a lie.
815
00:51:48.455 --> 00:51:50.055
So what's the true story?
816
00:51:50.215 --> 00:51:56.215
And it's got to be bigger than your emotions and your feelings and your meditations and your personal, like, positive statements.
817
00:51:56.950 --> 00:51:59.590
I really believe, you know, there's an author
818
00:52:00.070 --> 00:52:02.390
of creation and he's
819
00:52:02.390 --> 00:52:07.910
writing a story in us. So ultimately it gets connected to the realm where he lives, that wonder realm.
820
00:52:08.685 --> 00:52:09.485
But
821
00:52:10.045 --> 00:52:12.925
I'm allowing people to come into that as a journey
822
00:52:13.245 --> 00:52:14.045
because,
823
00:52:15.165 --> 00:52:17.485
and my family in the story does.
824
00:52:17.725 --> 00:52:18.205
They
825
00:52:18.525 --> 00:52:24.390
know wonder is real and they feel it and it's a thing. They know it makes them different, but they're asking a lot of questions
826
00:52:25.190 --> 00:52:28.870
and they're unfolding it. And I think that it's
827
00:52:28.870 --> 00:52:32.390
important to let people on a journey of awakening
828
00:52:33.270 --> 00:52:34.230
wake up
829
00:52:34.550 --> 00:52:35.910
and ask and
830
00:52:36.695 --> 00:52:37.335
question
831
00:52:37.815 --> 00:52:39.095
the spiritualities
832
00:52:39.335 --> 00:52:40.055
and
833
00:52:40.375 --> 00:52:43.415
the source of them and good and evil and
834
00:52:43.815 --> 00:52:47.575
the cost of going one direction versus another spiritually.
835
00:52:48.295 --> 00:52:50.855
And so I wrote books that were for everybody,
836
00:52:51.730 --> 00:52:55.650
you know, on that process of awakening to ask universal
837
00:52:55.650 --> 00:52:56.450
questions
838
00:52:56.450 --> 00:52:58.450
and see consequences
839
00:52:58.850 --> 00:53:05.010
and help kids and families deal with very deep, deep subjects. Because when you come home to tell your kid, well the
840
00:53:05.945 --> 00:53:07.145
dog got run over.
841
00:53:09.465 --> 00:53:10.905
That's a game So changer for the whole
842
00:53:11.865 --> 00:53:14.105
I wanted to give people stories
843
00:53:14.905 --> 00:53:18.665
and experiences of wholeness and healing within books
844
00:53:19.619 --> 00:53:20.980
so that
845
00:53:22.020 --> 00:53:26.500
I come along, you know, in the story, Mary Poppins has to take over a big
846
00:53:26.819 --> 00:53:35.665
job, but essentially she's trying to turn it back over to the parents in the end. She's saying, I know you have a really hard thing to do. Your family's in chaos.
847
00:53:35.905 --> 00:53:42.305
Mom's distracted. She's politically active out there in the story. If you remember Mary Proppin, she was marching around, completely
848
00:53:42.705 --> 00:53:44.385
oblivious. She was in her politics.
849
00:53:45.060 --> 00:53:48.020
Dad's a banker in the British banking system.
850
00:53:50.420 --> 00:53:55.540
Oh my gosh. That's right there, stop right there in this story.
851
00:53:56.100 --> 00:54:02.645
Something's going on with this family. And their kids are out of control, and they're they keep chasing nannies out,
852
00:54:02.964 --> 00:54:03.365
and,
853
00:54:04.164 --> 00:54:05.765
and their room's a mess.
854
00:54:06.244 --> 00:54:08.165
And in comes this character
855
00:54:08.484 --> 00:54:12.884
who messes things up a bit because she's teaching them new the new words.
856
00:54:13.720 --> 00:54:15.320
Supercalifragilistic.
857
00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:17.720
She's taking them into chalk pictures.
858
00:54:18.040 --> 00:54:19.560
She's she's
859
00:54:19.640 --> 00:54:20.440
she's
860
00:54:20.440 --> 00:54:22.840
blowing up their tight little
861
00:54:23.160 --> 00:54:24.600
denial system
862
00:54:26.040 --> 00:54:27.880
and reaching the hearts of the kids.
863
00:54:28.455 --> 00:54:29.415
But
864
00:54:29.415 --> 00:54:32.375
in the end she turns it back over to the parents and says,
865
00:54:32.775 --> 00:54:35.415
Are you awake enough yet? Do you see what's happening?
866
00:54:35.655 --> 00:54:37.335
And that's my job.
867
00:54:38.055 --> 00:54:40.215
My job is to bring stories
868
00:54:41.175 --> 00:54:43.255
of supernatural goodness and truth
869
00:54:43.950 --> 00:54:46.750
into systems that need to be,
870
00:54:47.150 --> 00:54:52.190
have you seen this? Are you aware? Do you know what's happening to your kid? Do you know what's Here's happening in the the
871
00:54:52.190 --> 00:54:53.150
what's going on.
872
00:54:53.550 --> 00:54:55.310
This might shake you up a little bit,
873
00:54:55.965 --> 00:54:59.965
but stick with me because we're gonna we're gonna jump into a chalk painting,
874
00:55:00.205 --> 00:55:08.685
and we're gonna see things we never saw. And if kid if parents are smart, they'll read the books with their kids or get the study guides and start talking to them about it.
875
00:55:09.005 --> 00:55:14.350
I have families that do it as a family read through. You know, and I Like a Bible study?
876
00:55:14.430 --> 00:55:16.030
Yeah. Like a Bible Yeah.
877
00:55:16.590 --> 00:55:18.350
Yeah. A 100%.
878
00:55:18.350 --> 00:55:19.630
I have audio books.
879
00:55:19.790 --> 00:55:21.710
So sometimes, you know, you maybe
880
00:55:22.030 --> 00:55:26.005
you listen to an audio book and you make your kid read it, you know? But
881
00:55:26.005 --> 00:55:28.005
the point is that I
882
00:55:29.925 --> 00:55:30.805
love
883
00:55:32.005 --> 00:55:35.365
some of the great new writers now that are in
884
00:55:35.365 --> 00:55:45.250
the Christian field writing really good books. But nobody's doing what I'm doing. Nobody's head on going right to the heart of the beast right now. And
885
00:55:45.569 --> 00:55:47.730
they're not even they're not even hiding it.
886
00:55:48.130 --> 00:56:01.925
When they say So so I want you to you you do you well, you won't own anything and you'll be fine with that? When they tell you you need bugs, when they tell you you're gonna have a universal income and we're gonna control where you go and you're gonna be in fifteen minute cities and then parts of the,
887
00:56:02.405 --> 00:56:08.050
you know, then fires break out. Look at the whole Yeah. You know, they're not hiding it.
888
00:56:08.369 --> 00:56:11.410
So so why do you think that so many adults
889
00:56:11.410 --> 00:56:13.810
lose their sense of imagination
890
00:56:14.050 --> 00:56:16.050
and wonder as they grow older?
891
00:56:16.290 --> 00:56:19.235
Because somehow it it seems like kids,
892
00:56:19.235 --> 00:56:34.730
when they when they when they are young, they don't have anything that distracts them from being a kid. Mhmm. Mhmm. Right? But as we grow older, we're gonna have all this fear of porn and all that stuff that's been projected to us. Some people see through it like us
893
00:56:34.970 --> 00:56:35.690
or,
894
00:56:35.770 --> 00:56:39.370
you know, probably still we're gonna be indoctrinated by some things.
895
00:56:39.530 --> 00:56:40.090
But
896
00:56:41.290 --> 00:56:43.210
what what what kind of
897
00:56:44.650 --> 00:56:47.770
yeah. What do you think that yeah. Well, I slowly went to sleep.
898
00:56:49.295 --> 00:56:52.895
I was I was I felt I felt a lot like Sleeping Beauty.
899
00:56:53.055 --> 00:56:54.494
Just take, you know, or
900
00:56:55.855 --> 00:57:00.654
Snow White, take the apple, get drugged, go to sleep. And this is a pain response.
901
00:57:01.220 --> 00:57:02.260
Numb out,
902
00:57:02.420 --> 00:57:03.220
numb out.
903
00:57:03.460 --> 00:57:07.220
And you know for us we got color television in the 1970s.
904
00:57:07.220 --> 00:57:07.940
Wow,
905
00:57:08.020 --> 00:57:12.500
you know. I come home from school feeling so depressed and disconnected.
906
00:57:12.579 --> 00:57:15.299
And my parents really didn't know at that point what
907
00:57:15.915 --> 00:57:16.715
media
908
00:57:16.715 --> 00:57:18.235
could do. Letting
909
00:57:18.795 --> 00:57:21.595
your kids sit in front of the television, it literally just
910
00:57:22.475 --> 00:57:24.555
drugs you. Tell A vision.
911
00:57:24.715 --> 00:57:27.035
Yeah, exactly. Tell A vision is a drug.
912
00:57:27.800 --> 00:57:37.160
It's I still do that occasionally now. You know, when I am just at the end, you know, I'll just like, okay. Can we watch 12 movies right now? You know? Right. Right. Yeah.
913
00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:46.185
Some people actually might take a walk and go to take a nap. That would be good. It's, you know, sort of part of our culture. But I really believe
914
00:57:46.345 --> 00:57:46.985
that
915
00:57:47.865 --> 00:57:50.425
pain and lack of connection
916
00:57:50.985 --> 00:58:02.160
and lack of knowing true wonder and keeping it alive and having that environment with people around you who are drawing you out into that. We all just want to go to sleep.
917
00:58:02.480 --> 00:58:07.599
We just want to go to sleep. We just want it to be better. And it became a brain training exercise.
918
00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:08.240
And then
919
00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:11.359
distraction, you know, so it's amazing
920
00:58:12.075 --> 00:58:13.115
strategy,
921
00:58:14.155 --> 00:58:19.755
you know, to take the wonder out of kids. Also traditional schooling can beat that out of you pretty quick.
922
00:58:20.155 --> 00:58:21.035
Because
923
00:58:21.755 --> 00:58:27.035
you have one size fits all in the classroom. You have to get everybody through a certain thing and you sit.
924
00:58:27.600 --> 00:58:35.920
And this is really fun about what's happening with so many people bringing their kids home and let and letting them learn in unique ways. You know, it's very exciting,
925
00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:41.520
and I think that wound up being a game changer for us. I feel like I'm homeschooling right now.
926
00:58:42.285 --> 00:58:42.925
Like,
927
00:58:44.125 --> 00:58:45.725
I can homeschool it. Right.
928
00:58:46.045 --> 00:58:52.285
And Right. Because I gotta I'm I'm going, wow. I never thought of that. Isn't that interesting? They
929
00:58:52.684 --> 00:59:03.490
told me not to think about that, but I'm gonna think about it anyway, you know. Right. And we're going to talk about it. Oh, don't talk about it. Well, let's talk about it then. I mean, I just happen to believe a lot of this was unfolding
930
00:59:03.490 --> 00:59:07.010
as a very calculated way to get it dumbed down population.
931
00:59:07.825 --> 00:59:09.025
And
932
00:59:09.025 --> 00:59:11.585
so it's not all our fault.
933
00:59:12.305 --> 00:59:16.385
You know what I mean? Like when No. No. But but but you see people really
934
00:59:17.265 --> 00:59:17.985
want such
935
00:59:18.865 --> 00:59:22.705
control. They do things. They understand the human being enough
936
00:59:23.049 --> 00:59:27.050
to use our need for community enough to make us afraid to be bullied,
937
00:59:27.289 --> 00:59:30.090
to use our need for rest enough to get
938
00:59:30.170 --> 00:59:41.664
us to take drugs to sleep. They use the human, the creation of the The comfort. Right. The comfort. They comfort all the time. And if you see like the generations like, let's
939
00:59:41.664 --> 00:59:43.505
say, around 1900
940
00:59:43.505 --> 00:59:44.224
and
941
00:59:44.464 --> 00:59:46.704
let's say just before World War two,
942
00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:58.480
these men were like men. Even if you were 24 years old, you were a man. Nowadays, they don't even know what kind of gender that they are. Like, what the hell happened? But it's
943
00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:17.520
I don't think it's much to blame to the the the people themselves, but it's it's about the education and but what what they're gonna tell you, what the belief system is like. Do you really think that you're a Johnny or maybe you're something different? If they don't gonna get these kind of questions
944
01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:20.720
in early stage, on early age,
945
01:00:20.960 --> 01:00:29.760
you will never question if you're a boy or a girl, whatever. And I I think it's fine that everybody's gonna gonna pick whatever they do. But if you see nowadays these
946
01:00:30.285 --> 01:00:31.085
these
947
01:00:31.244 --> 01:00:32.045
rarities,
948
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these these
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craziness of people,
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that's been indoctrinated.
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That's been how how the how the system wants you to be. Because let's say that we're gonna heading to World War three. Whatever is going to Russia, China, whatever the, you know, is going to be.
952
01:00:49.640 --> 01:00:59.405
Dude, there's going to be one day. Nobody knows what to do. They're walking around like, oh my god. I couldn't dye my hair blue. So, I don't know how the, just like, what the
953
01:00:59.885 --> 01:01:04.445
you know, or just like an Instagram, like, oh, no. No. I'm just I'm just Snapchatting
954
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with a friend of mine, and he doesn't see any planes fly over with bombs. So there's nothing going on. Like,
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it's it's so crazy how
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they really figured out
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what the psychology
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and what happens to the brains and to the mind of people when you indoctrinate
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them with propaganda.
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It's a hack. It's a hack. Yes. And
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they
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worked on that for a long time. And you can see in the sixties and out of World War II,
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you read Operation Paperclip and they brought all these German scientists over and
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things start way back. It started in the Garden of Eden as far as I'm concerned, with the beginning of Yeah, with the book. With the God of the day. The God of the day.
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There's so much going on for centuries.
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The devil goes, pick me. Pick me. It'll be fine. You know? Right. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Story we're we're all living out. But but
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in terms of finding,
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awakening a soul,
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and this is one of the most beautiful things
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that
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has happened to me
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in growing up and marrying and
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01:02:21.035 --> 01:02:24.075
learning about intimacy and learning about God and learning about kids
974
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is this awakening where I remember when I was younger, I'd go to the beach because people told me I should because it was supposed to be good and I'd sit there and I go,
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leave now?
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Okay.
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Okay. I've been here five minutes. That's it. You know? I had no capacity for a lot for being feel really being alive and absorbing
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beauty
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because I had shut down. I had numbed out as a very, very young kid.
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But we'll tell you one of the most amazing things that will help you wake up. And just pretend I'm talking about any book in the world besides my own for right now.
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Read with your children, read out loud.
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Even
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as adults, my husband and I read to each other.
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And we read, you know, when I read my new book, know, I'll read in my books and
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we'll talk about the characters.
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Read children's books,
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read to your grandchildren,
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read out loud with your children.
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And don't It's also so before imagination.
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Your imagination about character, about what as an adult to read to children
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to read out loud and to do reading as a communal exercise. It's very central to a lot of, you know, aside to this, a lot of homeschoolers
992
01:03:42.940 --> 01:03:45.340
forget most they say forget
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01:03:45.340 --> 01:03:50.895
what they're telling us we have to do with our kids. We're just gonna all sit together and read great books and talk about it. They
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do entirely entire
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school plans based on just reading out loud and talking with their kids. And it is so healing to the brain.
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01:04:00.175 --> 01:04:02.895
And then of course you want to get something worthwhile.
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01:04:02.895 --> 01:04:04.735
You need great vocabulary.
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01:04:05.100 --> 01:04:06.780
You need many characters.
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01:04:06.940 --> 01:04:09.900
I'm all my books are fully colored illustrated
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because you don't tell kids that color is a metaphor for revelation and give them black color.
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01:04:15.900 --> 01:04:17.980
Right? So stories,
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things like this. And I'll tell you that simple thing of reading in children's poetry,
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Shel Silverstein,
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people like that. You know,
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that's why I say, you know,
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it's like
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01:04:31.105 --> 01:04:33.985
Doctor. Seuss, you know, Shel Silverstein,
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01:04:34.145 --> 01:04:39.010
C. S. Lewis, and somebody else is having a party in my brain, I don't know who's gonna show up next.
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That's
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what I'm always trying to, I'm always trying to invite these
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01:04:43.650 --> 01:04:47.250
kids authors into my brain. Help me, help me wake up again.
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01:04:47.650 --> 01:04:49.410
Help help me see it again.
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But it's
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also something that's been
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given through generations
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01:04:55.935 --> 01:04:58.895
by cultures that are sitting by the bonfire,
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telling about stories that have such a deep meaning, like the indigenous people of America. Like, I was in Peru with the the Shippiba
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01:05:08.460 --> 01:05:09.260
Indians,
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01:05:09.819 --> 01:05:15.420
for lack of a better word, indigenous people. Right? So and they they they tell stories
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01:05:16.220 --> 01:05:16.460
about
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01:05:17.495 --> 01:05:18.695
life meaning
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01:05:19.335 --> 01:05:24.535
things that you can have as a guide, as a map. Call it the Bible. But they
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01:05:26.295 --> 01:05:28.775
give these stories to generations.
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01:05:28.775 --> 01:05:32.055
And these generations are still talking about it because,
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01:05:32.619 --> 01:05:37.740
you know, people listen to it. Just like you said, if you if you read something to someone,
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no matter what kind of book, people are gonna listen to it and maybe have a different opinion about what they've been reading and a little perspective,
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01:05:45.180 --> 01:05:51.145
different perspective. But that's okay. But then you're going to be in a conversation and you're gonna wake up
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01:05:51.465 --> 01:05:59.465
and you are in a conversation with a fellow human. Right? That's something nowadays that's been shut down. That and I think that's also
1029
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the part that they want to
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01:06:02.300 --> 01:06:08.220
indoctrinate in this in this realm of of right now. They want to individualize
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01:06:08.220 --> 01:06:09.020
everything.
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01:06:09.500 --> 01:06:16.220
In the early days, it was so much family based. I'm not saying it's not family based anymore, but it's so much individual
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individualism.
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01:06:17.825 --> 01:06:19.025
Oh. It's isolation.
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01:06:19.505 --> 01:06:20.945
I can isolate. Isolation
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01:06:20.945 --> 01:06:26.065
is a better word. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not going to lie to you and say that I don't
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01:06:26.545 --> 01:06:27.665
zone out.
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01:06:28.065 --> 01:06:33.505
You know? And You have to sometimes. Right? You know, I I there's there's kind of my
1039
01:06:34.250 --> 01:06:44.330
YouTube things I like to watch, you know. Usually it's Cinderella type stories where something bad gets made good, whether it's a physical location or a health concern or,
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01:06:44.410 --> 01:06:45.130
you know.
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01:06:45.530 --> 01:06:47.210
Yeah. Some woman getting a facelift.
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Transformation. So what do you
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01:06:52.005 --> 01:06:54.245
Transformation is important. But
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01:06:54.485 --> 01:06:58.245
what I'm learning more every day as a child,
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01:06:59.685 --> 01:07:01.845
I'm learning to stop
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and
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01:07:03.900 --> 01:07:04.620
be
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01:07:04.859 --> 01:07:08.380
present and intentional for the reality of wonder
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01:07:08.780 --> 01:07:10.780
and what that represents
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01:07:11.420 --> 01:07:17.740
and what is universally true about that and realizing that any time you do that
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powerful,
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01:07:19.625 --> 01:07:20.345
anytime.
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01:07:20.665 --> 01:07:22.265
It's revelation. Yeah.
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01:07:22.985 --> 01:07:25.145
It's not hopeless, it's not hopeless.
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You know, we're humans,
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01:07:28.985 --> 01:07:35.950
as we step into the fullness of how God created us to be and what he has for us, We're a great threat to darkness. You know, don't kid yourself.
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01:07:36.750 --> 01:07:38.589
Yeah, with light. This
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is why you have the people spend such enormous amount of time, energy and money to manipulate, control and brainwash propagandize.
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We're a very big threat.
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Awakened Very
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01:07:50.155 --> 01:07:51.275
people who
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see and love and are intentional and
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01:07:54.875 --> 01:07:56.635
present communicating,
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01:07:56.715 --> 01:07:57.515
talking,
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01:07:57.595 --> 01:08:00.075
having difficult conversations instead of just
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01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:05.400
you know, ghosting people. That's a huge threat to Darwin. Right?
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So, you know, they ought to be scared of us.
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01:08:08.920 --> 01:08:17.144
It's it's it's it's nice that you say because I'm I'm reading it well, I'm listening to it for a second time now from Napoleon Hill outwitting the devil,
1069
01:08:17.545 --> 01:08:19.704
an interview of the so called devil.
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01:08:20.105 --> 01:08:20.664
And
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01:08:21.225 --> 01:08:41.130
that that's one of the things that he said. Like, no. I I I want people in fear. I don't I I want to program them because otherwise, I don't have anything to do. Right. And the other guy the other guy, he he tells him how to be in the light, and I don't like that. But if you if you listen to the metaphors and to the story, just like,
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okay.
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01:08:43.344 --> 01:08:47.184
So if you if you're living that life and you question everything
1074
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and you
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01:08:48.625 --> 01:08:50.304
believe in yourself,
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01:08:50.465 --> 01:08:55.264
that's something that the devil call it whatever, the darkness doesn't want you to.
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01:08:55.830 --> 01:09:12.074
If you believe in yourself and you just do what's what's good for you and support and love for for for the for the other people, hey. You're you're good to go. But with all the prog the programming that's been going on, they they don't want that. That's why they have this,
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01:09:13.515 --> 01:09:15.195
as you said, not
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01:09:16.635 --> 01:09:17.995
only individualism,
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but also the
1081
01:09:21.275 --> 01:09:23.720
said the perfect word. Isolation.
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01:09:23.720 --> 01:09:25.800
That's the word. Yeah. Because
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01:09:25.800 --> 01:09:27.880
then you are just one
1084
01:09:28.040 --> 01:09:35.640
and not the group. And if you are as a group waking up or questioning everything or say like, No, I'm not going to do that
1085
01:09:36.355 --> 01:09:39.954
mandates or whatever, then they don't have anything
1086
01:09:40.355 --> 01:09:41.554
to throw at you.
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01:09:41.875 --> 01:09:43.635
Well, people have to realize that.
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01:09:44.594 --> 01:09:45.314
Julie,
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01:09:45.635 --> 01:09:48.034
what can adults learn from children
1090
01:09:48.930 --> 01:09:53.170
that we tend to forget somewhere along the road to adulthood?
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01:09:53.650 --> 01:09:54.450
Well,
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01:09:55.170 --> 01:09:56.930
probably just about everything.
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01:09:58.930 --> 01:10:00.050
Right? But
1094
01:10:04.175 --> 01:10:06.655
there's an immediacy about a child.
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01:10:07.615 --> 01:10:11.775
You know, what they're feeling is all they're feeling and it's right then and there.
1096
01:10:12.175 --> 01:10:13.535
And until they
1097
01:10:14.220 --> 01:10:15.340
grow a bit,
1098
01:10:16.300 --> 01:10:17.740
they're not satisfied
1099
01:10:17.740 --> 01:10:18.460
with,
1100
01:10:19.420 --> 01:10:29.020
you know, they want to be held then, they want to be talked to then, they want an answer now. And of course some of that can be, it's extremely self centered, you know, children are extremely self centered.
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01:10:29.655 --> 01:10:31.574
But there's an immediacy
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01:10:31.575 --> 01:10:32.215
to
1103
01:10:32.775 --> 01:10:33.815
being aware
1104
01:10:35.015 --> 01:10:36.054
and saying, wait,
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01:10:37.015 --> 01:10:38.215
stop right there.
1106
01:10:39.335 --> 01:10:41.014
I gotta deal with that.
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01:10:41.575 --> 01:10:42.455
I'm
1108
01:10:42.455 --> 01:10:43.655
not gonna stuff that.
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01:10:44.215 --> 01:10:54.350
Or take a note, we're coming back to that because that has to be dealt with. Which in good parenting you don't let things slide. If you can't deal with your child in the middle of the restaurant,
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01:10:54.990 --> 01:10:55.550
you
1111
01:10:56.590 --> 01:10:58.590
you take them out, you make sure you
1112
01:10:58.990 --> 01:10:59.550
rethink
1113
01:10:59.865 --> 01:11:01.945
and you teach into the situation
1114
01:11:02.025 --> 01:11:04.744
so that you don't have tantrums in restaurants anymore.
1115
01:11:04.985 --> 01:11:13.145
Right. But you make a note and you go woah, woah, woah, woah, I'm not stuffing that. I'm not ignoring that. Think of how that would work with a toddler.
1116
01:11:14.140 --> 01:11:15.340
That toddler,
1117
01:11:15.740 --> 01:11:17.500
you can't just ignore that.
1118
01:11:18.540 --> 01:11:22.619
You have to discipline into it. You have to train. You have to teach.
1119
01:11:22.940 --> 01:11:30.315
You have to set the boundaries. You have to give the affection, right? The conversation with whatever age you can. And I think that's an immediacy
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01:11:30.475 --> 01:11:31.275
that we
1121
01:11:31.675 --> 01:11:36.155
could learn from because the needs around us in ourselves and others
1122
01:11:36.555 --> 01:11:38.875
are way more immediate than we want to admit.
1123
01:11:39.489 --> 01:11:42.769
Like some of we do have things we have to do and there's
1124
01:11:42.770 --> 01:11:49.249
times and places and there's coping when you have to be patient and you might have a long thing to persevere,
1125
01:11:49.250 --> 01:11:51.489
but still being in
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01:11:52.145 --> 01:11:55.184
and being aware and seeing and understanding
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01:11:55.825 --> 01:11:56.945
is huge.
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01:11:57.345 --> 01:12:00.625
Instead of going, oh, oh, it doesn't matter, denial. See,
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01:12:01.345 --> 01:12:04.145
one of the people, I was asked to be on a podcast
1130
01:12:05.505 --> 01:12:06.305
on peace.
1131
01:12:08.690 --> 01:12:11.330
I talk about peace. I said, well, then do you talk about war?
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01:12:12.450 --> 01:12:14.930
Because in Hebrew, the word for shalom
1133
01:12:15.010 --> 01:12:16.370
is a war word.
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01:12:16.850 --> 01:12:17.570
It basically
1135
01:12:18.050 --> 01:12:23.574
shalom means. Shalom Havarim. That's that's that's one of the the the the canons I learned.
1136
01:12:23.895 --> 01:12:27.655
Yeah. Back in the days. Basically means not on my watch.
1137
01:12:29.575 --> 01:12:32.935
Nothing broken. Nothing broken. Nothing missing. Nothing out of place.
1138
01:12:33.620 --> 01:12:43.060
And so the idea of shalom in in the bible is not on my watch. We don't allow that here. This is getting taken care of. We're taking care of business.
1139
01:12:43.220 --> 01:12:47.915
So if there's a conflict, a problem, a missing piece, a need for healing,
1140
01:12:48.155 --> 01:12:50.315
a need for quiet, we're dealing.
1141
01:12:50.715 --> 01:12:53.275
That's what peace means, we're dealing.
1142
01:12:53.915 --> 01:12:55.355
Don't allow Conflictation.
1143
01:12:55.515 --> 01:12:58.555
You know, it's like when the Lord's Prayer
1144
01:13:00.170 --> 01:13:05.290
on earth as it is in heaven. In other words, if it's not happening there, I'm not allowing it here.
1145
01:13:05.770 --> 01:13:06.570
Right.
1146
01:13:06.570 --> 01:13:10.570
I'm not. I'm an increase in God's kingdom because I won't allow that mess,
1147
01:13:10.890 --> 01:13:21.795
you know, with his help and and his strength and life and authority. You know, I that does that happen in heaven? Well, then it's not happening on my watch right here to you or anybody around me. We're dealing.
1148
01:13:22.035 --> 01:13:25.635
And if you think about it, that is the basis of peace,
1149
01:13:26.355 --> 01:13:32.070
is is the immediacy of dealing with what you have to deal with. The opposite of peace is avoidance.
1150
01:13:32.710 --> 01:13:34.949
And avoidance creates anxiety.
1151
01:13:35.989 --> 01:13:42.150
Avoidance will always create anxiety. This is what I've taught about overcoming fear and performance anxiety.
1152
01:13:42.724 --> 01:13:51.684
When you're terrified and you don't want to do something, like when people would say, will you sing Julie, will you perform? And I'd go, well I don't know, I'm really busy, I think I have something, I don't
1153
01:13:52.485 --> 01:13:53.925
know if I really want to do that.
1154
01:13:54.565 --> 01:14:01.260
You get a hit immediately of this when you avoid something that terrifies you. You get a hit of something that makes you feel great.
1155
01:14:01.500 --> 01:14:06.300
Like, oh, I just took the drug, I'm relieved, I'm so relieved. Wow. Oh,
1156
01:14:07.180 --> 01:14:16.625
I guess the point of me being okay is to just avoid the conflict because it feels so good. The problem is is that immediate hit of relief from fight or flight
1157
01:14:17.105 --> 01:14:24.150
creates an anxiety cycle. So you actually wind up creating more anxiety and less peace the more you avoid. Right.
1158
01:14:24.470 --> 01:14:25.590
But fear,
1159
01:14:25.670 --> 01:14:27.429
when dealt with directly,
1160
01:14:29.030 --> 01:14:31.750
dealing with things creates peace.
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01:14:32.390 --> 01:14:41.165
Dealing with them. And this is one of the things that technology can make us very avoidant because I can just text you, I don't have to call you, I don't have to sit across from you.
1162
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I read something interesting that I think is really fascinating about, or maybe I watched it, it was a reformation talking about technology and education. How in Sweden or some kind, they're
1163
01:14:54.380 --> 01:15:01.340
getting all the technology out of the classrooms, they're giving people paper. I don't know it was Sweden but it was one of those countries. They're teaching kids handwriting
1164
01:15:01.340 --> 01:15:01.980
again.
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01:15:02.300 --> 01:15:17.244
They're finding that reading books on a screen is terrible for your brain as opposed to holding the book in your hand. And so there's a revolution happening where they're realizing that technology within the learning environment is actually pretty awful
1166
01:15:17.405 --> 01:15:27.929
for kids. And so they were saying, well, what do you, they were asking these tech genius guys, you know, that are bringing us this technology, what do you do for your kids? Well, I make them play outside.
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I don't let them on screens. I make them read books. Tech geniuses.
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01:15:33.225 --> 01:15:33.785
Then the
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01:15:34.505 --> 01:15:41.705
thing you could do in a world where you have technology that people will be using is to limit it maybe to one class specifically
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that is about that. And then the rest of the time is to do every
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01:15:46.265 --> 01:15:51.340
other activity that we're teaching ourselves and our kids should be about. What makes you more human?
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01:15:51.659 --> 01:15:53.179
Play Mhmm. Take
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01:15:53.900 --> 01:15:56.699
your shoes off and run-in the dirt. Yes.
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01:15:56.860 --> 01:15:58.539
Yes. Someone and
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01:15:58.780 --> 01:15:59.900
play a game, you know.
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01:16:01.255 --> 01:16:03.175
Be Have a hard conversation.
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01:16:03.414 --> 01:16:05.094
Be uncomfortable together.
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01:16:05.335 --> 01:16:09.655
You know? Yeah. And they're saying that the best thing you can do to create to help people
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01:16:10.135 --> 01:16:18.250
be you know, deal in technology is is not to teach it a lot. You know what I mean? Like, to go Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go messy, broken things. I
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01:16:18.970 --> 01:16:20.330
I just wanna wanna
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01:16:20.810 --> 01:16:28.005
rephrase what you just said about the children, that they are the center. Right? Is it is it also something that
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01:16:28.405 --> 01:16:33.125
with the society that we're living in, that we're going to be more off center?
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01:16:33.605 --> 01:16:37.605
So the the child does not know that it well,
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01:16:37.845 --> 01:16:43.420
we teach them and that's the crazy thing about children. Right? First, we wanna teach them to
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01:16:44.140 --> 01:16:51.980
walk. They crawl and they have to walk. As soon as they walk, they wanna run, but we say, no. No. No. Don't run. Sit still.
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01:16:52.460 --> 01:16:56.300
As soon as the child grows older, we want them to talk.
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01:16:56.895 --> 01:16:59.935
But as soon as they talk, we tell them to shut up.
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01:17:01.295 --> 01:17:06.094
We tell our children in the first five years, don't lie.
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01:17:06.575 --> 01:17:15.910
But we tell them about the Easter bunny. We tell them about Santa Claus, all this stuff. So the it's it's really fun. And and just when you said it about the center,
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01:17:16.230 --> 01:17:18.390
the child is expressing
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01:17:18.630 --> 01:17:19.430
itself
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01:17:19.430 --> 01:17:21.590
from the being itself.
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01:17:21.590 --> 01:17:29.715
Like, oh, mommy, I need food, or I wanna do this. I wanna do that. And they have to ask permission or they have to ask for stuff.
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01:17:29.955 --> 01:17:31.635
But isn't it something that
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as soon as we are going to be in the more adult life that we are not willing to put ourselves in the center,
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01:17:39.790 --> 01:17:41.150
but put ourselves
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01:17:41.390 --> 01:17:42.910
way beyond that,
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01:17:43.150 --> 01:17:44.350
which makes us
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01:17:45.390 --> 01:17:47.710
much more not aligned
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01:17:47.790 --> 01:17:51.150
to that what we really are, the power that we are be.
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01:17:53.775 --> 01:18:02.094
Yeah. And, you know, I am I'm not an eastern mystic type, and I don't believe in eastern mysticism. So I'm never gonna buy into, you know,
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01:18:02.895 --> 01:18:11.090
that general philosophy and just go into yourself and, you know, the the source and the thing. Really think there's a I think we're we're creations.
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01:18:11.570 --> 01:18:12.369
And there's a
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01:18:13.010 --> 01:18:14.929
he knows. You know, there's an intelligence.
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01:18:15.489 --> 01:18:18.289
But the reality is is that
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01:18:18.690 --> 01:18:21.650
to is that authentic that authentic peace.
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01:18:22.665 --> 01:18:27.544
And one of my favorite verses in the bible says, by the grace of God, I am what I am,
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01:18:27.864 --> 01:18:30.264
and his grace to me is not without effect.
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01:18:31.145 --> 01:18:32.425
So here I am.
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01:18:33.304 --> 01:18:39.050
I'm I'm I'm a messed up struggling person terrified to play my music in front of people,
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01:18:39.450 --> 01:18:42.890
dealing with this, I'm here, let's call it what it is,
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01:18:43.450 --> 01:18:43.930
and
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01:18:45.290 --> 01:18:47.610
receive the grace to take a step at a time,
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01:18:48.255 --> 01:18:51.054
And not be avoidant about the
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01:18:51.215 --> 01:18:52.014
reality
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01:18:52.735 --> 01:19:04.229
of what's really here and letting people see that. People don't wanna be seen. They don't wanna be known. Now, gosh, where's the filter that, by the way, on this video that's supposed to make me look younger? I don't see it.
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01:19:05.030 --> 01:19:15.669
You you just turned 35. Now you're complaining. Oh my god. You know what I mean? Like, I've been thinking of the next time we talk about authenticity, I'll have the filter on. Right.
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01:19:16.949 --> 01:19:19.725
Anyway So talking about music, it's it's
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01:19:20.365 --> 01:19:24.605
if if if you especially when when I did my introduction, you
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01:19:25.645 --> 01:19:29.325
do a lot of things. Did did that happen in 2019
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01:19:29.325 --> 01:19:31.325
as you you were starting
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01:19:31.690 --> 01:19:32.570
way
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01:19:32.570 --> 01:19:38.249
back, right? Musician since I was a child because my mother valued it and we all had to to take lessons.
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01:19:38.570 --> 01:19:41.130
But I start I had some terrifying
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01:19:41.130 --> 01:19:41.929
performance
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01:19:42.090 --> 01:19:44.969
experiences as a young performer in recitals.
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01:19:45.485 --> 01:19:53.724
And because the music meant so much to me, I couldn't bear to be bad at it. So when I had my first blank out in front of an audience, it scarred my brain.
1228
01:19:54.125 --> 01:19:55.804
It happened a couple of times.
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01:19:56.125 --> 01:20:19.514
But I still had this, like I was a beekeeper who was allergic to bees. Know? Like, I wanted bees, but they could kill me. You know? That's how I felt with music. Like, I I had this music in me and this desire to write and sing and perform. It had a terrible fear that it would kill me if I ever did it in front of people and I messed up. I mean literally I felt like I could die. And that's where phobias come from. It goes down to this level where
1230
01:20:20.315 --> 01:20:21.195
you
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01:20:21.195 --> 01:20:24.074
really see yourself in a death spiral
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01:20:24.155 --> 01:20:30.500
that something you're afraid of could kill you on some level. It sounds crazy but that's how the body and the mind reacts to certain
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01:20:30.740 --> 01:20:31.540
trauma.
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01:20:31.620 --> 01:20:32.340
So Right,
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01:20:34.340 --> 01:20:41.220
I was avoiding, I'm so good at a lot of things that I was avoiding doing the one thing which was facing the fear of performance.
1236
01:20:42.415 --> 01:20:44.815
And I was busy being competent.
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01:20:45.855 --> 01:20:47.695
I was busy being competent
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01:20:47.695 --> 01:20:48.895
and getting a
1239
01:20:49.215 --> 01:20:56.175
lot of support from everyone going, oh, you're so good at homeschooling. You're so good at this. Oh, you're wonderful. And I was so busy and appreciated.
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01:20:56.770 --> 01:21:03.889
And one day I was sitting on the couch and I heard the voice. It said, Julie, it's time you have to deal with this fear. And I felt the cold
1241
01:21:04.369 --> 01:21:07.810
chill as if I I was naked in front of the audience, you know.
1242
01:21:09.215 --> 01:21:25.699
The the emperor was no clothes. You're telling me that I'm so popular doing all these other mom things. You know, how could it be so important that I sing and play? Are you kidding me? Come on. You know? It's more noble if I take care of everyone else, you know, kind of And I'm like, no, I got a finger on you, don't avoid.
1243
01:21:26.500 --> 01:21:34.100
Because there was so much grief also from avoiding doing what I was created to do. And so I sat there and I said, okay, you'll
1244
01:21:34.100 --> 01:21:39.635
walk me through it, I'll go everywhere, just take me by the hand. And began a long process of understanding
1245
01:21:39.954 --> 01:21:42.434
fear and trauma and pain and
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01:21:43.235 --> 01:21:48.354
complex trauma and brain healing and God entity and all the stuff.
1247
01:21:48.755 --> 01:21:50.434
And to the point where
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01:21:50.680 --> 01:21:55.560
I wound up having a nationally syndicated jazz radio show, putting out five albums,
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01:21:56.120 --> 01:21:58.280
regularly performing Afraid
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01:21:58.440 --> 01:22:12.815
with some of the best musicians in the world. And that taught me a lot. And the music was also just became a metaphor for deeper things because it was so many heart issues. You know? And so there was that. And then one day,
1251
01:22:13.295 --> 01:22:20.890
I heard I heard him say, you know, Julie, you're hiding. And I said, what are you talking about? I got five albums out. I got a radio show. I got a website. What do mean I'm hiding?
1252
01:22:21.610 --> 01:22:23.610
And he said, you gotta start telling people
1253
01:22:24.410 --> 01:22:25.530
about how afraid And you
1254
01:22:26.250 --> 01:22:30.975
and and I went, no. I don't want them to know I've been afraid. I want I just wanna be one of the guys.
1255
01:22:31.375 --> 01:22:34.655
You know? I just wanna be with all the people who play the cool music.
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01:22:35.135 --> 01:22:48.780
You know? And and I don't want them to know that I'm terrified every time I step on stage or that I'm working through that or that I'm in process or I'm imperfect or maybe I'm not that great of a musician. Because if I was really a good musician, I wouldn't be so scared. You know what I mean? Like
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01:22:49.500 --> 01:22:57.735
and and and it was like, no. You're gonna have to start telling your story. So I started this thing, and I wound up with this daily show called fear free living with Julie Lavender.
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01:22:59.655 --> 01:23:08.390
Fear free living. Was the only Julie Lavender out there. And then I got quiet to write books for a while and another Julie Lavender popped up. So now I'm using my whole name. But anyway,
1259
01:23:10.070 --> 01:23:12.070
and I begin every podcast,
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01:23:12.550 --> 01:23:15.429
I ended it with, now go do something that scares you.
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01:23:16.630 --> 01:23:27.465
Every day, go do something that scares you. And I put Out a lot of the comfort zone. Yeah. Out of the comfort zone. But like, I mean, you nail that down. Like today, I will pick up the phone and call that person
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01:23:27.465 --> 01:23:40.420
I don't want to talk to. Today, I will walk out of this house without a mask. Today, I will say no. Today, I will say yes. Today I will clean my room. Today I will tell somebody that I was sexually abused. You know, whatever, where you ever are in the process,
1263
01:23:40.980 --> 01:23:43.780
today's the day. And so
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01:23:43.860 --> 01:23:53.844
I began to teach deeply on that and then I began to teach on trauma healing and all that kind of stuff. And then, surprise, I was writing these kids books, which I didn't expect to do.
1265
01:23:54.324 --> 01:23:54.804
And
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01:23:55.844 --> 01:23:58.244
that became actually an interesting way
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01:23:58.804 --> 01:24:01.204
to help people get into the larger story
1268
01:24:01.590 --> 01:24:03.989
that makes it worth dealing
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01:24:04.630 --> 01:24:06.630
worth going to war for your peace.
1270
01:24:07.190 --> 01:24:12.790
You gotta you gotta you gotta see it's worth going to war against the fear for your peace.
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01:24:13.590 --> 01:24:14.310
I love that.
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01:24:17.025 --> 01:24:21.584
It's It's books that you you know, that are it's scary to write. Come on. Don't kid yourself.
1273
01:24:22.065 --> 01:24:24.545
But everything is scary. If you wanna
1274
01:24:25.905 --> 01:24:29.425
even if you're just a content creator, you're making videos, you do podcasts,
1275
01:24:29.810 --> 01:24:32.690
you you you write, you you make music,
1276
01:24:32.850 --> 01:24:37.170
everything that you want to share to this world is somehow,
1277
01:24:37.489 --> 01:24:39.489
you know, anxiety
1278
01:24:39.730 --> 01:24:48.195
kicks in or you think you're not good enough. But the the problem is with a lot of people, if they don't push it out, if they don't wanna make it, you know,
1279
01:24:48.755 --> 01:24:50.274
to perform whatever
1280
01:24:50.435 --> 01:24:56.400
how you wanna perform, then you're gonna be stuck in that little place. But as soon as you're gonna
1281
01:24:56.960 --> 01:25:11.324
do the things that you really like to do, even if they're not the best things that you do, like the best musician, the best writer, the best past best podcast or whatever. But if you don't push yourself to get out of the comfort zone and like, okay. This is what I do.
1282
01:25:11.645 --> 01:25:17.084
It's it's not the best, but I'm I'm I'm performing. I'm doing it. I think then,
1283
01:25:17.165 --> 01:25:18.124
eventually,
1284
01:25:18.925 --> 01:25:24.280
that that road that you're gonna gonna walk is going to be much more
1285
01:25:24.600 --> 01:25:25.480
fruitful
1286
01:25:25.720 --> 01:25:26.440
and
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01:25:27.160 --> 01:25:28.119
even
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01:25:28.760 --> 01:25:40.635
beneficial for other people than if you're gonna stuck it to yourself like, no. No. I'm not good enough. And, yeah, everything comes with fear and with what you talked about at the beginning. You have to believe in yourself.
1289
01:25:40.955 --> 01:25:53.210
I think I can I can play a little bit of guitar? I can make music, but I I will I will never be on the top. I don't want to be on the top. I just want to bring out the things that I want to do. Just like you say, you know,
1290
01:25:54.170 --> 01:25:59.130
with your music, with writing, just like, oh my god. I'm I'm writing. Does anybody
1291
01:25:59.449 --> 01:26:03.850
wants to know about what I'm writing for? And now you but but if you
1292
01:26:04.515 --> 01:26:06.195
jump into that journey,
1293
01:26:06.595 --> 01:26:08.835
then it will unfold itself.
1294
01:26:09.155 --> 01:26:19.330
But if you don't jump into the journey, you will still stuck at the crossroads and you don't know what kind of direction do you have to go to. Mhmm. That's a problem with a lot of people, you know?
1295
01:26:20.050 --> 01:26:23.090
Share it to the world. I was in America last year.
1296
01:26:23.890 --> 01:26:27.970
Went from the East Coast to the West Coast and I met so much people
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01:26:28.705 --> 01:26:32.465
like almost everyone that has this unique thing
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01:26:32.865 --> 01:26:38.225
that they that they don't know. And I I love to make pictures. So I I
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01:26:38.625 --> 01:26:40.625
made pictures of what they did.
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01:26:41.220 --> 01:26:43.780
Like, one was sculpting
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01:26:44.020 --> 01:26:46.260
skulls. Shout out to GAnatids.
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01:26:46.260 --> 01:26:50.500
Skulls. Everything that he did was was was making skulls.
1303
01:26:51.060 --> 01:26:56.020
Who does it in the world? Right? He has a whole attic full of skulls like
1304
01:26:56.525 --> 01:26:57.485
screwdrivers,
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01:26:57.485 --> 01:26:58.685
little puppets.
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01:26:58.685 --> 01:26:59.165
So
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01:27:00.205 --> 01:27:00.925
I made
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01:27:02.205 --> 01:27:04.205
pictures and I showed him
1309
01:27:04.525 --> 01:27:05.725
what he's doing.
1310
01:27:06.205 --> 01:27:07.324
But he has
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01:27:07.405 --> 01:27:12.880
fear of giving it out. Like, oh, no. It's nothing. I was at lady's
1312
01:27:12.880 --> 01:27:13.679
house. She had
1313
01:27:14.320 --> 01:27:15.919
every room had
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01:27:16.159 --> 01:27:17.599
so much detail.
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01:27:18.079 --> 01:27:20.559
I made the pictures and I showed her like,
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01:27:20.880 --> 01:27:21.599
This is
1317
01:27:21.920 --> 01:27:26.000
quite awesome what you're doing. Like, Oh, no, it's no big deal. Yes,
1318
01:27:26.605 --> 01:27:27.965
It is a big deal.
1319
01:27:28.284 --> 01:27:28.844
But
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01:27:29.724 --> 01:27:33.885
you need other people to tell you that it's a big deal.
1321
01:27:34.125 --> 01:27:38.925
Like, people tell you, oh, what you've just been written down. Wow.
1322
01:27:39.005 --> 01:27:44.409
This is so deep. This is giving me so much belief and wonders
1323
01:27:44.409 --> 01:27:45.530
for myself.
1324
01:27:45.610 --> 01:27:50.809
Like, oh, wow, maybe I should do more of this. Right? And everybody has this
1325
01:27:51.449 --> 01:27:53.289
everybody has something that
1326
01:27:53.690 --> 01:27:56.730
gives them this thing, this authenticity. Right?
1327
01:27:58.405 --> 01:28:00.325
But if you are
1328
01:28:01.285 --> 01:28:05.125
doing your life, living your life with all the distractions,
1329
01:28:05.685 --> 01:28:07.285
you don't see what's
1330
01:28:07.845 --> 01:28:11.660
well, the problem is because you're doing it automatically
1331
01:28:11.660 --> 01:28:12.860
yourself, like writing
1332
01:28:13.500 --> 01:28:22.539
a book, making music, for you, it's very okay. Well, I I just made a song. That's it. But for other people, like, you did what?
1333
01:28:22.860 --> 01:28:24.060
You you wrote a song?
1334
01:28:24.784 --> 01:28:27.264
Like, oh, and you play guitar?
1335
01:28:27.585 --> 01:28:29.905
You you you write a book? Like
1336
01:28:30.784 --> 01:28:32.945
but for when you are
1337
01:28:34.065 --> 01:28:35.425
doing it by yourself,
1338
01:28:36.145 --> 01:28:43.489
it's it's just normal. But for a lot of people, it's not normal. And I think that the greatest gift that we have nowadays with technology
1339
01:28:43.650 --> 01:28:45.969
is that we can share it so easily.
1340
01:28:46.370 --> 01:28:49.889
We can share so easily our insights, our stories,
1341
01:28:50.050 --> 01:28:52.050
like you said, stories that you have to tell them,
1342
01:28:53.555 --> 01:28:54.915
the stories that you
1343
01:28:55.635 --> 01:28:58.515
have to talk to yourself that you believe in.
1344
01:28:59.235 --> 01:29:01.235
Then once when it's out,
1345
01:29:01.795 --> 01:29:13.050
it will come back. Positive, negative, I don't care. It should come back somewhere because it's like tennis, right? You throw the ball, it somehow comes back. You make a volley or not. Okay.
1346
01:29:13.450 --> 01:29:14.090
But
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01:29:14.570 --> 01:29:18.090
it's so great to talk to you, Julie, because you're so passionate
1348
01:29:18.250 --> 01:29:23.770
and enthusiastic about the things that you're telling. But it has so many layers
1349
01:29:24.594 --> 01:29:25.394
about
1350
01:29:25.474 --> 01:29:27.715
what you're telling about the stories
1351
01:29:28.034 --> 01:29:31.715
you're unfolding in your books, but also the way that you
1352
01:29:32.594 --> 01:29:38.835
had to deal with trauma yourself and turn it around in something like, I want to teach people
1353
01:29:39.840 --> 01:29:43.199
about what I've learned. And it's still, of course, a process
1354
01:29:43.600 --> 01:29:44.239
to
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01:29:45.119 --> 01:29:51.440
to share it with the world. Thank you for that. Well, thanks for listening. I mean, I feel like I've got, you know,
1356
01:29:52.445 --> 01:30:04.844
a symphony in my head and I've got a kazoo in my mouth. Like, there's so much to talk about. And I have like this little toodly thing, like trying to, but you know, one of the things that I've learned is that
1357
01:30:05.650 --> 01:30:07.489
it didn't come from me.
1358
01:30:08.289 --> 01:30:09.169
And so
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01:30:09.650 --> 01:30:13.409
the grief about being an artist or a creative or doing anything
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01:30:13.570 --> 01:30:14.289
is
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01:30:14.530 --> 01:30:15.570
to let it go.
1362
01:30:16.289 --> 01:30:24.934
And to go once you're able to do it and you're free to do it, then you can't let it own you by trying to get your value out of the thing you love to do.
1363
01:30:25.575 --> 01:30:28.695
Because my value comes from there, you know, him.
1364
01:30:29.094 --> 01:30:30.375
So The source.
1365
01:30:30.535 --> 01:30:35.969
Because it's a painful life to think that people are going to complete your loop,
1366
01:30:36.610 --> 01:30:38.449
know, because they don't, they don't.
1367
01:30:39.010 --> 01:30:42.770
But there are these moments when somebody like you sees something
1368
01:30:43.250 --> 01:30:45.889
and says whatever, that's valuable.
1369
01:30:46.530 --> 01:30:49.275
You know, it's not going to fill my eternal hole,
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01:30:49.675 --> 01:30:52.795
that soul hole we all have, but it's
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01:30:52.795 --> 01:31:01.595
worth what you do to see what you've done, Rob. To say, wait a minute, buried in that and who you are is a purpose.
1372
01:31:02.540 --> 01:31:08.220
And so stick with it, kid. You know? Mhmm. And I love that you noticed that.
1373
01:31:09.580 --> 01:31:10.460
I said,
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01:31:11.020 --> 01:31:12.700
it's so cool when
1375
01:31:13.100 --> 01:31:15.340
you finally do things that
1376
01:31:15.615 --> 01:31:16.735
make you happy.
1377
01:31:17.375 --> 01:31:27.375
And when you're reaching out to so many people, I never could could possibly know that that if I have a conversation with someone that other people will listen to it and think like, wow.
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That was amazing conversation. Whatever. But just like, okay.
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01:31:31.949 --> 01:31:40.989
I had to deal with so much fear and disbelief of myself and all the stupid things that I did in in the past life to okay.
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Yes.
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You record something, whatever it is, and it took you three years to make it perfect, and it's still on your hard drive.
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Mhmm. What are you doing?
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01:31:52.635 --> 01:31:56.635
Mhmm. And once I realized, like, what if if it's
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that everything that I create or whatever I'm going to do,
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put it out and see what's happening.
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01:32:04.720 --> 01:32:08.080
And then it will well, now it's going
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to be so
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much in the things that I'm aligned with, the things that I really like to do. And just like you said, you you gotta do something. Listeners, listen to this. You gotta do something out of the comfort zone every single day. Do something that's that's really holding you back from doing.
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Today, I was in the forest,
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there's beautiful forest around here.
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And I've I always,
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always
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walk barefoot.
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And there was this path with oak trees. And now the
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oak trees, they lose their
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acorns. What's it called? The acorns.
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Yeah. So these are little these little shelves, they can
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well, probably cause you some harm on your feet. But just like, no, no, no. I believe
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that my feet are made to walk upon this earth.
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Right? So I'm walking there and
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there are 9,000
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nerve ants on the end of your feet. So you massage your feet and just like, wow. And in the end, it was so good because there was this
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white
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tundra kind of sand
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on the on the on the path. So I walked through the the acorns.
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I walked through grass,
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and you feel that sometimes when the when the sun comes down, you know, the the grass is warm, and then you go to a spot where it's a little bit more
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colder. You feel
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where you are in this beautiful scenery of of nature. Right? And that makes me alive.
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And then I knew like, wow. I'm going to be so prepared for
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the conversation that we're gonna have right now because
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01:33:52.530 --> 01:33:58.290
I did something that just like, okay. I could do this and that and that. No. No. I gotta walk.
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And I was looking
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at the clouds, and I knew, like,
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probably you're gonna be in your car, and it's gonna rain.
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Like, really a lot of rain because there was so much heat here over the last couple of weeks,
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strong as I prefer to say.
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And so it was. I came to my car. I was sitting down, pouring rain,
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and I thought like, I
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did it.
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01:34:24.340 --> 01:34:27.620
I did it didn't hold me back from doing this stuff.
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01:34:28.235 --> 01:34:30.315
The same thing when I take a shower.
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01:34:30.555 --> 01:34:36.715
Nowadays, I take my shower, my nice warm shower, but in the end, I will do my
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01:34:36.955 --> 01:34:39.514
ice cold shower. Yeah. Exactly.
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01:34:40.315 --> 01:34:40.955
You you,
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01:34:41.490 --> 01:34:48.690
you know, you you gotta you you you gotta get out of the comfort zone, and then the magic happens.
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01:34:49.170 --> 01:34:49.889
And
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01:34:49.970 --> 01:34:53.010
the the feeling that you have is so great.
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01:34:53.585 --> 01:34:55.825
Like, wow. I conquered
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01:34:55.905 --> 01:35:02.305
cold water. Like, come on. Dude, what did you just say? Yeah. I conquered cold water. Like, one minute.
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01:35:02.785 --> 01:35:09.060
Oh, you're still alive? Are you still alive because of the cold war? But the the thing is we are so programmed.
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01:35:09.060 --> 01:35:19.699
Like, oh, no. I wanna have a hot hot shower. Like, yeah. Really? Yeah. Do you really need to? Wrong kind Comfort zone. Comfort. Yeah. Well, I'm gonna have to go out and walk on some acorns. That's that's all I can say.
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I
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I I Before I head out to walk barefoot on acorns, could tell people in case they're interested how to get the books, do you think? Because I'm gonna have to
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01:35:30.675 --> 01:35:33.155
Yes, absolutely. On some acorns.
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01:35:33.560 --> 01:35:34.360
Yes.
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01:35:34.360 --> 01:35:35.240
Cold
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shower.
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01:35:39.480 --> 01:35:44.680
Alright, Julie. It's it's such a pleasure to talk to you. It's
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01:35:44.680 --> 01:35:45.560
a great podcast.
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01:35:46.225 --> 01:35:46.865
And
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01:35:47.185 --> 01:35:50.385
please tell people where they can find you and
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01:35:50.945 --> 01:35:56.305
how they can contact you and and all your all the stuff. Well, I mean, in general,
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01:35:57.505 --> 01:35:59.505
you can go to julielavender.com,
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01:35:59.505 --> 01:36:02.210
and there's different themes and stuff.
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01:36:03.010 --> 01:36:09.330
And one of them is it takes you to thequestforwonder.com.
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01:36:09.410 --> 01:36:11.090
Thequestforwonder.com.
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01:36:11.250 --> 01:36:14.210
And actually there's a little QR code, maybe you'll put it up
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01:36:14.475 --> 01:36:16.874
he'll show you a little picture of the books.
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01:36:17.355 --> 01:36:21.914
But there, I have the first three books out now and the other two will be shippable
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01:36:22.074 --> 01:36:26.155
before Christmas. And then I have a book on emotional healing that's coming out in January.
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01:36:26.700 --> 01:36:32.059
But if you do, yes, they're on Amazon, okay? But I'm telling you, pay more there.
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01:36:32.300 --> 01:36:36.860
And if you go to thequestforwonder.com,
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01:36:37.420 --> 01:36:46.465
I have these book bundles because I can ship directly and give people a much better deal on these. They're magazine quality, they're full of illustrations. They're
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01:36:46.465 --> 01:36:47.425
not consumables.
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01:36:47.745 --> 01:36:48.465
They're like
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01:36:50.145 --> 01:37:04.399
the kind of book you want in your library for thirty years for generations of kids. If you want, if you're interested, you can go there, you can get the books that are out now. You can pre order the ones that are coming that takes you all through the weather weaponry and the World Economic Forum and
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01:37:05.840 --> 01:37:06.479
the tea
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01:37:06.880 --> 01:37:11.455
party on the ceiling. And and and, you know, I also have a
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01:37:11.775 --> 01:37:12.255
yeah.
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01:37:12.975 --> 01:37:16.175
So that's good. Just go to the questforwonder.com.
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01:37:16.175 --> 01:37:17.855
You can look julielavender.com
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01:37:17.855 --> 01:37:19.695
if you want a larger story. But,
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01:37:20.540 --> 01:37:28.700
you know and and join join in the in the in the journey of of how story can heal your soul and empower your kids.
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01:37:29.420 --> 01:37:30.220
Wow.
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01:37:30.380 --> 01:37:39.734
Wow. I'm gonna post it definitely in the in the description, and, also, I'm gonna edit it with the the QR code so people that are looking to this video,
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01:37:39.974 --> 01:37:43.494
they can scan a QR code. And, of course, the links are in the description.
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01:37:43.894 --> 01:37:44.774
Julius,
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01:37:44.934 --> 01:37:53.160
thank you so much for hopping on this organized production. I hope you had a great time. I did for sure. Time flies when you're, wow, it's loud. This is amazing.
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01:37:53.640 --> 01:37:56.200
Yeah. Time does not exist at
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01:37:56.440 --> 01:38:02.520
disorganized productions at all. When you're sitting at a at a light, a red light, and it exists, I have to tell you.
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01:38:02.920 --> 01:38:03.240
Right?
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01:38:03.875 --> 01:38:07.155
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you so much, Julie.
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01:38:07.555 --> 01:38:12.675
And for all the all the fellow listeners, for all the fellow humans, I hope you enjoyed this episode.
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01:38:12.915 --> 01:38:16.915
Leave a like and comment on the show. It really helps me tremendously.
1476
01:38:17.719 --> 01:38:21.960
For all the people that are already sponsoring it. I love it that
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01:38:22.440 --> 01:38:25.159
we can pull out more shows, and
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01:38:25.800 --> 01:38:35.435
let's share it to the world that we have something to say here at Disorganized Productions. And for this episode, it's not chaos creates harmony, but creativity
1479
01:38:35.915 --> 01:38:36.715
creates
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01:38:36.795 --> 01:38:37.594
harmony.
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01:38:37.595 --> 01:38:39.195
Thank you so much, Julie.
1482
01:38:40.075 --> 01:38:40.795
Thank you.
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01:38:47.860 --> 01:38:49.219
So we
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01:38:49.219 --> 01:38:50.419
just talked to
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01:38:50.659 --> 01:38:52.260
to Julie, and
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01:38:52.500 --> 01:38:56.419
we have briefly a conversation after we did the podcast. And
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01:38:56.980 --> 01:39:03.455
she is such a lovely person, and not not only that. There are so many things I can resonate with,
1488
01:39:03.935 --> 01:39:06.335
what she is writing down in the books,
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01:39:07.135 --> 01:39:08.335
the way she
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01:39:08.815 --> 01:39:09.855
tries to
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01:39:10.255 --> 01:39:15.455
make people aware of things, especially in this world where we're living in right now.
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01:39:15.935 --> 01:39:16.815
And
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01:39:17.080 --> 01:39:17.880
I'm very
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01:39:18.440 --> 01:39:19.159
honored
1495
01:39:19.560 --> 01:39:21.800
that I have so many
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01:39:22.440 --> 01:39:23.320
guests,
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01:39:24.040 --> 01:39:25.160
131
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01:39:25.160 --> 01:39:30.360
episodes in already, with so many different kinds of conversations.
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01:39:31.665 --> 01:39:32.625
It's
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01:39:32.625 --> 01:39:38.304
not that you're gonna say disorganized productions will be in the politics or in
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01:39:39.105 --> 01:39:39.824
religion
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01:39:39.985 --> 01:39:41.425
or in conspiracy.
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01:39:41.425 --> 01:39:43.425
No. No. There's so many people
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01:39:43.920 --> 01:39:45.599
that I like to talk to.
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01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:49.119
And, I I just want to thank you
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01:39:49.520 --> 01:39:52.880
from the bottom of my heart for listening to this show.
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And,
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01:39:54.960 --> 01:39:59.074
yeah, I'll all wish you, fellow humans, a beautiful,
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01:39:59.315 --> 01:40:00.514
magical day.
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And,
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01:40:02.995 --> 01:40:09.475
I see you or hear you or you hear me next time. Alright? Have a brilliant, magical day. Ciao.
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