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Sergeant RJ is in parts unknown.
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He's out there doing things.
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We cannot speak of.
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Oh, and this episode is episode number 209-209, the human fly.
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Not the Jeff Goldman movie.
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That's that's the fly.
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That's a different, that's the fly.
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This is the human fly.
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We'll get to that.
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This is from a story from the 70s.
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It's pretty fucking crazy.
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And now we go on to a page from this book in history.
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This day in history, sorry, a page from the book, this day in history.
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We go to October 20th, 1720.
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The Royal Navy captures Calico Jack.
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The English pirate had operated in the Bahamas and Cuba for two years.
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He is famous for having been the first pirate to fly the Jolly Roger skull and crossbones flag, and for including two women on his crew, Mary Reed and Anne Bonnie in his crew.
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Jack was tried and hanged in November in Port Royal, Jamaica.
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That's not the horrible worst place to die.
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No, I mean, you know, got some seafood.
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Drink with an umbrella in it.
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What do you want for your last meal?
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Can I get some shrimp and some of that jerk chicken?
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I don't know if jerk chicken was around in 17.
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I have no idea.
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I'd like to think it was.
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Yeah.
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That's some good shit, man.
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I do like jerk chicken.
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I make some vicious wings with a jerk chicken rub on there.
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That stuff's really nice.
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I love jerk chicken, man.
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That's some good stuff.
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But uh you gotta make it right, though.
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I mean, someplace you go to the you go to like a restaurant and they claim it's, you know, a jerk chicken and you get it, you know.
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What is that?
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It's really not at all.
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This is not jerk chicken at all.
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False advertising.
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They think you bought a rotisserie chicken at the store, don't they?
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Put some spices on it.
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Hey, wasn't Calico Jack, isn't that a drink or something like that?
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Is that an alcohol?
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Keep thinking.
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Oh, I've got a hat for calico.
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I've got the Jolly Roger.
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Yeah, right, right, right, yeah.
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From the Outer Banks.
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The Jolly Roger.
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The Outer Banks.
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Yeah, that's cool.
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That's where I should move.
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The outer banks.
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I don't think they get hit by some storms, man, sometimes.
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That's all right.
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Go out there and become a pirate.
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Move to Oaker Coke.
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Do some pirating.
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It's very piratey there in a few.
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It's very piratey.
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But hey, welcome to episode number 209, The Human Fly.
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We will dive right in here.
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So the Human Fly, not like we said, the Jeff Goblin movie.
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Which does that mean we showed our age if there's listeners out there that have no fucking idea what we're talking about?
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It's a decent movie.
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Yeah, you go check it out.
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It doesn't have to be remade.
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So it will be.
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As much as the studios like to tell you that, it's going to be remade at some point.
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We're incapable of original thought.
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Let's do a reboot of this.
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I I bet you we lost a half million dollars.
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They'll probably make like a sequel, like The Fly 2.
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And it'd be Jeff Goldblum, no longer the fly.
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The old movie was in the 50s, The Fly.
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Oh, Rob Right, right, right, right.
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Wasn't there Son of the Fly too?
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Son of the Fly?
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Something like Spawn of the Fly.
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I'd like to think that she had sex with the guy while he was still human.
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Like a not had sex with the fly.
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It's like a fly swatter sound.
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Fly swatter coming down.
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Splat.
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The human fly, weird, weird one-time stunt guy from the 1970s.
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He did more than one stunt, but it's kind of what he's famous for.
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We will get into it.
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He seemed to have gotten tired of evil Knievel getting all the fame, so he's like, I want some of this shit.
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And we'll get into that too.
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So the 1970s was a golden age, golden era for practical high-risk flying stunts in both live entertainment and can't and cinema as well.
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Defined by Daredevil's name, like zero, there was no computer graphics or any kind of other things in there, the special effects.
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These dudes are out there doing their thing, man.
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So one of them was Evil Knievel, uh, the famous motorcycle stump man made global headlines by jumping buses and trying to clear the snake river canyon in 1974 using a steam rocket.
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He also set records jumping 14 Greyhound buses at Kings at King's Island in 1975 to jump the fountains at Caesar at uh Caesars Palace.
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Right, right, yeah.
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And didn't the guy break like a record number of bones or something like that?
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Like a whole shit ton of bones.
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That's crazy.
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The weather change sucked for him.
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Weather's changing, right?
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It's all cramped up.
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You know, we used to watch that stuff every time it was born like white.
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Oh, yeah.
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Right.
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Evil Kneevel's gonna jump today.
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And then you're like, that ramp is nowhere near long.
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Oh shit, it's not long enough.
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It's too short.
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I think he went too high.
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Oh fuck.
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That's bad.
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And then there's a kitty O'Neill, it was a groundbreaking stunt woman and speed racer who set the woman's land speed record in 1976 at 512 miles per hour in a hydrogen peroxide-powered rocket car.
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Jesus Christ.
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And she later set the water speed record at 270 miles per hour.
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Good for her.
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And then there's the Astral Spiral Jump Guy debuted in 1972 at the Houston Astrodome.
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Who the fuck is that?
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This computer simulated automated barrel roll stunt was completely engineered by Ray McHenry and Jay Millinger, the Astral Spiral Jump Guy.
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And then Smoky and Abandoned, of course, came out in 77.
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That's a classic movie with Bert Reynolds and of course I'm gonna draw a blank on who else was in it, but Sally Field.
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Sally Field and some other actors and stuff were in a comedian.
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It's a great one.
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It's a classic.
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Remember Hooper?
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Hooper Stunt Man.
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Hooper, yeah.
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Uh-huh.
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Right.
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Let's see.
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The man with the golden gun in 1974, famous, featured a famous 360-degree mid-air barrel roll.
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Car jump across the river by James Bond's AMC Hornet car.
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And then gone in 60 seconds.
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Not the new one, with Nicolas, this is the original, made in 1974.
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So there's all kinds of shit going on.
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So Evil Knievel was kind of the starter of this.
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So he had a mild, multi-one-sided rivalry with the late 1970s man that we're talking about, the human fly.
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And yeah, and Gary Wells was another motorcycle jumper.
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Oh, yeah, correct.
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Yep.
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Gary Wells, yep.
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You know, back then though, we were all convinced that Daredevil was a viable career path.
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When you grow up, be a Daredevil.
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Yeah, I but I think they had that movie in the 70s about the skateboarders, right?
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They had that one where they had that hill in San Francisco.
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Oh god, Lords of Dog Town.
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Is it where they went down that hill?
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I think so.
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Right?
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Somebody died or something like this.
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Yeah, I think it was uh 1970s skateboarding movie that was.
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Skateboards were not that great then.
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I I think they called it, it was called Skateboard.
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It's a classic sports comedy drama directed by George Gage.
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It came out in 1978, that captures the height of the 1970s skateboarding craze that was going on around the country.
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Around the world, really.
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Yeah, so it's called Skateboard.
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So the 1970s downhill skateboarding stunts is best represented by the legendary Signal Hill Speedrun, 1975 to 1978, what began as a made-for-television stunt quickly became a birth of modern extreme gravity sports.
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In October 1975, James O'Mahony founded the event after ABC's The Guinness Book of World Records television show requested a spectacular high-speed skateboarding stunt.
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Yeah, so it was a 30-degree incline, and it was in Signal Hill in California.
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The Pioneer Record was set on October 17, 1975, by Guy Grundy.
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Recorded a speed limit of 50 miles an hour on a 1970 skateboard.
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I hope it had urethane wheels at that time.
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Not just the metal wheels, but all smoking.
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But back to Evo Knievel.
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So he did have a little beef with this guy with uh the human fly, which we will get to him in a little bit.
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The enemy persona in 1976 interview Rick Roger Rojot, R-O-J-A-T-T Rojot, wearing his signature full face mask, which is like a bright red jump shoot jumpsuit, basically, referred to Knievel without naming him directly, though noting he was from Montana and jumped motorcycles as an evil person and a thorn in my side, who aimed to one up with Space H stunts.
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So there was like an outdoing record.
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Rojot attempted to eclipse Knievel's fame and jump records beating him by jumping more buses than he did and that sort of thing.
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Sorry, dude.
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You're no evil Knievel.
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No, and then there was the whole thing that we're gonna get into here.
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So, first of all, so who was the human fly?
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So let let's start out first by playing a clip of of the interview with the human fly.
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I started seven years ago, uh, where this human fly idea entered my mind when I was in the hospital.
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Uh actually uh this is uh this this there's this actually it's a very serious uh part.
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I was in the hospital for four years, and uh I saw a lot of bad things.
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Unfortunately, Vietnam more veterans and uh children that uh weren't exactly put together properly, and this is what I'm dedicating my career to.
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What does that mean?
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Children that weren't put together properly in the world over the next year.
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I don't know.
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Do you mean you're crazy?
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I plan to exhibit the greatest stunts or the greatest feats, if that's the word you want to use, ever deemed imaginable.
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I have uh an enemy, of course, that has been in the business for years.
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I don't want to mention any names, but he happens to be from Montana.
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And he jumps motorcycles, you know, and uh Oh but uh his his name is uh I don't want to mention any names.
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The movies watching is benevolent uh benevolent.
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He's an evil persona his side.
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Are you gonna try to out evil can evil evil can evil?
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I don't have to.
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My stunts that I'm gonna be doing over the next six years, it's more space age type.
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As you know, I have to hang, you know, hand my hat off to the gentleman because of he started Daredevil isn't.
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But I'm finished.
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Daredevil isn't that's it uh Daredevil isn't it?
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Daredevil isn't ridden the air devilry.
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Well, at the present time, uh I'm so that's that's the interview.
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We're gonna have a link to the whole thing.
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It's like seven and a half minutes long or something like that.
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So that's the interview with the with which which at that time he never released his identity.
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So the human fly never so no one knew who he really was.
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But it later turned out that he's a guy from from Montreal, Canada.
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So his name is Rick Rojot, was a Canadian stuntman who performed in the 1970s as the Human Fly, a real-life superhero who wore a red and white stunt and kept his face constantly masked.
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So no one really knew who he was.
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So the persona promoted by Montreal sausage factory owners, Joseph and Dominic Romasian.
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Why does that sound made up?
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I don't know.
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It just sounds made up.
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It could be, it could be made up.
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I have no idea.
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That's pretty funny.
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So it was promoted by the sausage factory in Montreal, and he claimed an elaborate backstory involving a terrible car crash, multiple surgeries, and a body partially rebuilt with steel.
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Walking, he did that on a DC-8 in 1976.
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He strapped himself to the roof of a DC-8 jet and performed low, it's like low altitude passes over the Mojave Desert in Texas at speeds up to 250 to 300 miles an hour.
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Now, apparently what happened to him when he did that, I I guess because his I don't know if his pants caught on fire.
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What?
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But I think he I think he did.
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I think he got burned because of the friction of the speed of traveling at such a high speed.
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I think it burned him fast.
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Yeah, I think his legs got burned.
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Yeah, let's yeah.
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So it looked like he only had really had two notable stunts.
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Yeah.
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The wing walking and then his next one.
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Yeah, so he got severe wind burned.
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So the burn legs or severe wind burn and skin irritation involving the human fly, Canadian setman Rick Roget, occurred on July June, June 19th, 1976, during the high-profile stunt riding strapped to a metal brass on the top of a Douglas DC 8 jetliner over the Mojave Desert.
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So the cause, the cause of the burns.
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The burns were caused by the extreme wind speed, air pressure, friction, and loose material on his suit caused severe friction burns, redness, and wind burns as well across his legs and thighs.
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Painful swelling or infection between the genitals and anus.
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Please call your local medical professional.
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Every time that commercial's on when it's talking about possible side effects include a life-threatening infection between the genitals and anus.
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So what?
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What the fuck?
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What happened to it?
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It's oddly specific.
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Oh, yeah.
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It can cause you to explode.
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Oh yeah, you might spontaneously combust.
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Yeah, so so at that time when he was a UNFY, he he didn't like reveal his identity or anything.
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He just was continuously masked.
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What is fascinating about this is this story spawned so much attention.
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Let me see if I can find this part.
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Okay, so Rick Rojat.
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So he he only had really, like you said, major stunts, only a couple of major stunts.
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He he contact contracted a hydrogen peroxide rocket-powered Harley Davidson Sportster motorcycle to be built in 1977 to jump 27 school buses at the Montreal Olympic Stadium during a Gloria Gaynor concert.
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Yeah, I I guess you can do it, but you have to be outside the venue and try to plan it for an intermission.
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What does Gloria Gaynor have to do with stunting?
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She was not pleased about this either.
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I wouldn't imagine so.
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I mean, why would you pick like another why why don't you pick like a rock band or something like that to do this?
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I mean Gloria Gaynor.
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And he wanted to beat Knievel's record jump of 13 buses.
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Although he was able to beat the record, Roshot crashed the motorcycle and suffered a broken ankle and some other specific injuries.
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But you know that's gotta be an o shit moment.
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Yeah, he then retired from stunting.
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When you realize that you're you're not quite gonna make it, you're about you're about 12 buses short.
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Okay.
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So the part that's getting me is the hydrogen peroxide rocket-powered Harley Davidson Sportster motorcycle.
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You know, that just doesn't sound that sounds very specific.
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Yeah, they put rockets on on the bike, too.
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What do you want me to build?
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Uh not doing that.
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You know that stuff you put on your arm when you get like scratched.
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Actually, that's uh jet actually not used uh used hydrogen peroxide.
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I know.
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That's fucking crazy, man.
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Uh which I that surprised the shit out of me when I found that out.
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Yeah.
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I don't know why you're putting that on your your arm.
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I don't know, but so yeah, he he didn't quite he didn't have to pay for the bike himself.
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It was probably paid for by the Canadian sausage factory.
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It looked like they're the ones that hired him for this job I was reading.
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Like, so you just pick some random guy.
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Hey, you want to be a daredevil?
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Did he work at the sausage factory?
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Was he like an employee there?
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And they're like, hey, you want to go.
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Shock me.
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Want to go jump a bunch of buses?
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Would you be interested in being a night shift manager?
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No.
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We've got something else you might be interested in.
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Hmm.
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What's that?
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How would you like to be a daredevil?
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Oh.
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That sounds enticing.
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What do you want me to do?
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Oh, we've got some things in mind over the next six years.
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He's pretty broken.
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I don't think he's gonna make it.
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I don't think he's gonna make it back to stunting anymore.
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So he led a pretty private life because there's not much out there about this guy.
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So it it it's kind of a kind of a quiet scape there.
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But there is pictures of him out here on on the internet, of course.
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But there's uh some stories that jump around, and it looks like they I don't know if it looks like they were gonna make a movie about him.
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90-minute live.
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So it looks like you can go find the actual jump.
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It was actually became Hooper.
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The world's greatest stunt.
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Yeah.
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Looks like there's it's in a three-part series.
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I think it's something.
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What does it say?
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Three part, yeah.
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Looks like you can go watch his stunt.
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Yeah, we're gonna really have the money for Spider-Man or Batman.
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Yep.
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It actually was kind of crazy how that all came together.
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But apparently you can you can watch it.
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Yeah, they uh she might have.
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It doesn't appear that they made a movie, though.
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I don't see any movie.
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The Step Man Inspired superhero The Human Fly gets film film project adaptation.
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There have been a litany of independent superhero movies made since Brian Singer reignized the genre of the X-Men.
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Well, I'm trying to figure out that this is yeah, it looks like it's currently The Human Fly is getting his char The Human Fly is getting his own movie based on the exploits of the shutman who performed Death Defying Defeat to raise money for charity events.
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Marbelow the comic had a brief 19 issue run in the 1970s.
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So yeah, it looks like he is gonna get his movie.
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But that was but this was wrote writ written in 2012.
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So I don't know that that ever happened.
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I don't think he ever got it.
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So he only got two stunts?
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No, it's passed.
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Let's do a reboot of Saturday Night Favor.
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Let's do a reboot of Saturday Night Favor.
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You think he you think John Travolta would be interested in signing up for that?
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No.
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I don't think he would.
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Could he be like a father figure?
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I'm pretty sure he won't be interested in that.
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So now we go to what Detective Burke just brought up.
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So out of this, so now we got the human fly.
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He does his two stunts.
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He burns himself on an airplane, he crashes into the 27th bus or I think it was the 15th bus.
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I don't think he made it that far.
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Somebody really misjudged that.
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That's not even halfway.
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Well I'm trying to figure out how how you actually test that because you need the weight of them both, you need the takeoff angle and how much forward momentum they've got coming up to the ramp.
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And then it basically it's like holding a couple bottle rockets in your hands, because I don't think those rockets are that powerful.
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Yeah, but you would think that they would like back then they would have like 27 airbuses made of like air.
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So and then do test runs, and then we crash it, he just crashes into the air, and they're like, Yeah, hey, that's not gonna work.
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We can't even get you to 23.
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We can't even get you to 23.
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Sure, you want to still do this?
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We you know, you're not making this because we we barely have made it to bus 23, so and we don't even have any weight on it yet.
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Yeah, so I don't know how we're gonna get to the 27 and then to the ramp.
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So but but anyway, so the human fly character.
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Okay, so what happened?
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So the human fly is the name of three characters appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics.
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One is a supervillain, the supervillain that was an occasional antagonist of Spider-Man, and the other two were superheroes, one of which was uh title of a short-lived series in the 1950s, reprinting some for fox blue Beetle Stripes in the 1940s.
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But here we go.
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The human fly first appeared in Amazing Spider-Man July 10th, January 1976, and created by Lynn Wine Lynn Wayne and Bill Mantlow and Gil Kane.
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The character subsequently appears in the Imagine Spider-Man in May and June 1979, Spider Woman.
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1980 and Moon Knight in 1984.
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The human fly character in Marvel was inspired by the Human Fly, the Stump Man.
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Oh, Jesus Christ.
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That's where that comes together.
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So talking about we never tested the motorcycle.
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He'd never been on the motorcycle, never rode the motorcycle.
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And uh you have to jump on that thing.
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What the fuck?
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You gotta do what?
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You you might want to ride that around a little bit before you decide to do that.
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There's a couple of spin-offs of the human fly character.
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Yeah.
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It's pretty funny.
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And it looks like the reception in 2020, CBR ranked Human Fly ninth in their Spider-Man 10 weirdest animal villains from the from the comics that we'd like to see in the MCU list for future movies.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean sure, I guess.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, but but if you look at this Wikipedia page, you're gonna see that the costume in the cover is exactly the same that he was wearing on when you click on a link in the interview.
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It's the same red jumpsuit and everything.
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It's pretty much the same outfit he was wearing.
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It's kind of funny.
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But hey, well, you know what?
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Fuck whatever, float your boat, I guess.
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I don't know.
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If that's if that's what you're into.
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I'd like to think that if I was a Daredevil, I might plan these things a little better.
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Well, I th I think there's a certain risk with that, especially in the 70s.
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I think you would probably get some kind of engineering involved and be like, yeah, this is how much my bike weighs, this is the distance I have to go.
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Then the engineer's gonna be like, you have to do like 200 miles an hour.
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Yeah, that's not gonna be good to land at that speed.
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Because it depending on w where you're doing this, I'd if I was you, I would go up to like 12,000 feet and try to get some really thin air.
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And maybe you might be able to make it.
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Maybe a hang glider.
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Maybe a hang glider.
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Maybe attach a wingsuit to your to your motor your motorcycle there.
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And so you can just fly over it.
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But yeah, so that is that weird fucking story of the human fly.
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So over the years, you you don't hear about this too much anymore now that you have the X games and there's still stunts they do.
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Now it's a lot of the magician stuff now.
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You don't see a lot of motorcycle jumping buses.
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You don't like the X games, though.
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That the stuff they do on motorcycles now is pretty freaking incredible.
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Yeah.
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Um I mean, that's stuff we never would have even imagined back in the days with like Evil Canival and that.
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Yeah, like going jumping so high and you let go of your motorcycle and just fly along with it for a second.
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I think like like history has shown that certain things that remain in the atmosphere of physics or in the world of physics, you just cannot you can't compete with.
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Like gravity.
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Yeah.
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So if you look up, longest motorcycle jump ever recorded was done by Colby Raha, holds the world record for the longest jump on a Harley Davidson V-twin motorcycle, leaping 205 feet, 62 meters, on August 2nd, 2025.
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The Harley Davidson V-twin jump, Colby Raja, set the set the 205-foot record on a 550-pound Harley Davidson Super Sportster 1200 at the Thunderdome during the 85th Sturgis motorcycle rally.
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Appropriate.
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He broke Seth Inslow's 15-year-old record of 183 feet.
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So that currently the longest ramp to dirt jump ever recorded was Mortis Cross racer Alex Harvell, holds the Guinness World Record for the longest ramp to dirt motorcycle jump at 425 feet.
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Jesus Christ.
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Set on May 12th, 2012.
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So that's a ramp to dirt.
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The highest motorcycle jump was Tommy Clowers, holds the record for the highest jump on a motorcycle at 7.62 meters, 25 feet, set on January 21st, 2001, in Van Nuys, California.
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What that uh what that I don't know what they mean by jump.
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I don't know, because that doesn't sound very high.
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I don't know.
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That's just the altitude.
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Yeah, 25 feet, unless I don't know how that would even compute.
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I don't even know how you practice for something like carefully, I guess.
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I don't know.
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Maybe use that figure skating thing they use that strap you to it had to be really long though.
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So if you fall off your bike, you just like skip along the ground and and don't die, I guess.
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I don't know.
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But yeah, I guess I guess I didn't even know about that thing from last year.
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I didn't even know that.
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No, huh?
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See, that's that's what I'm talking about.
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We did we didn't even know that ha happened.
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Because nobody talks about it.
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Like, oh yeah, that yeah, that did happen last year in August.
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Yeah, that's right.
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It's not it doesn't hit the news.
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I didn't even hear about it.
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So I'm not sure.
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No, don't pay attention to this.
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Go back to your TikTok.
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Don't you worry yourself about this.
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Stop looking at reality.
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I am no I'm not gonna Yeah, but see, but that's a good point, though.
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So let's let's take that question for a second.
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Let's take the Colby Raha thing.
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That AI Oh, it did say that.
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It said, yes, Colby Raha's jump of the father system was capable of clearing 27 buses.
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Jesus Christ.
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As his record breaking distance jumps structurally exceeded the length required to cross the buses.
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While Raha has never publicly jumped exactly 27 buses, a mouth breakdown of this official record breaker's feet proves that he definitely would have had the distance to clear the buses.
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The reality check, though, it says in here that no human or motorcycle has ever jumped a horizontal gap of 1,000 feet.
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However, stunt distance records are historically calculated by parking vehicles side by side, not lengthwise.
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So instead of like front end to back end, door to door kind of thing.
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And he has a jump history, this guy does.
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So he did the 275-foot surf surf pool jump in February 2026.
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Raja set a spectacular world record by successfully launching a dirt bike 275 feet over a massive wave pool.
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And then he did a the 23-car leap in June 2025.
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He broke a 51-year-old world record by jumping 197 feet to a flat landing over 23 beamers.
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BMWs.
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So he's he's kind of the modern day version of it.
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And it seems like he has a lot less broken bones.
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Yeah, I think they might have increased the ability of the motorcycles.
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Yeah.
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And people could probably practiced and studied a lot more.
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And probably there is a bit of weight limit to it.
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So they're like, hey, hey, Kobe, you might want to lay off the hot dogs, buddy.
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Coming up on your stump, man.
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You gotta trim down.
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You gotta lose some weight.
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So it is a reality, right?
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I mean, you can't gain too much weight.
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No, huh?
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Because you gotta probably be pretty thin.
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I'm not gonna eat for the next week.
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I don't want to die out there.
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But that is a fucking crazy story, man.
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I'm trying to imagine the speed.
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God, I couldn't imagine hitting that jump.
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And if like you're off by just like a little bit.
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Yeah.
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Your your toes.
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If you don't hit the center or you hit off on the edges or whatever, and you don't quite get there.
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And the landing is hard.
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Because that's why you need the other ramp.
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Because that's why you need the ramp.
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Because if you went from that to flat ground, oh, that would suck.
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Break in half.
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It was coming up in the mountains, you know.
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And that stretch that goes by these golf courses and that.
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Right.
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Pothole right in the middle there of the lane.
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Oh.
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Didn't see it coming up.
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Car beside me.
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Just rode it out.
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That saddle hit me in the ball so hard.
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I thought I was gonna pull over and throw up.
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Oh, it sucks.
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Yre didn't blow.
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Sucking scary.
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Check my tires.
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So scary.
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Sucking balls.
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Oh god, that hurt.
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I bet you that did hurt.
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That that's just such such a crazy thing to think of.
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Now, I I don't know if the if the human fly character incorporates a motorcycle.
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Like I'm just gonna go ahead and guess that he was not one of the more popular characters.
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Oh, yes, the real-life stuntman who inspired Marvels, the Human Fly comic book series, Canadian Daredo.
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Yes, the Marvel character in the comic book, the Human Fly, loosely based on the real-life stuntman Rick Rochette, used a rocket-powered Harley Davidson motorcycle.
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So that he did.
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Man, man, they really rode that one into the station, man.
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They're like, fuck, look at that guy.
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I'm gonna make a Marvel character out of it.
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Did did Rick even get any of the royalties from this?
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I think he was just playing a character for the sausage kings of Montreal or whatever the fuck they were.
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It doesn't really say royalties for the Marvel character.
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No, no, it says no.
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Rick Rick Rogat did not receive royalties for the Marvel character.
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The character and the real-life Daredo persona were actually owned and managed by Human Fly Spectacular's LTD, a company owned by owned in 1976 by the Sausage Company.
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You are absolutely right, Detective Burke.
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They're the ones that got the royalties.
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They owned by the Canadian brothers Joe and Dominic Ramachieri.
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The Ramachieri brothers hired Rogette as a salaried stuntman to fill out the costume and subsequently licensed a character to Marvel Comics at 1977 as a commodity of merchandising.
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That sucks for Rick.
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Got burned on an airplane, got broken, jumping on motorcycles.
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Oh, that's really cool.
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Hey, can I get some money from that?
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No, fuck it.
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Oh, it's uh it's 50 cents a copy.
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50 cents a copy if you'd like.
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As a commodity for merchandise, because the license agreement was between the Brothers Company and Marvel, and and any prospective licensing fees and merchandises profits went to the human fly spec spectaculars LTD, not Rick Rojant himself.
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Oh, that's kind of shitty.
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Fuck you, Rick.
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Uh no, we'll keep this.
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You know what?
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You signed on for six months.
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Hey.
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You did two.
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It's uh the suit's ours.
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Give us the suit back, Rick.
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Anyone can be the human fly.
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That's the magic of it.
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Engage sausage montage.
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Sausages riding Harleys over buses.
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That's it.
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Thanks, Rick.
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Thanks for your help, man.
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But that is the crazy, crazy ass fucking story about the human fly.
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So if you didn't know, now you do.
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Knowing's half the battle.
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Knowing's half the battle.
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Thank you for that PSA.
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Knowing's half the battle.
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G.I.
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Joe PSA.
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I I I don't think that we could play any of them on here because we need the video, you know, and the link and stuff.
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We'd probably get in trouble for that.
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It's goddamn funny.
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I still laugh like a fucking idiot watching those things.
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They were some of the most inappropriate.
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Okay.
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The time you came into the conference room.
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Yeah, that was so funny.
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Pork chop sandwiches.
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Oh my god, get the fuck out of here.
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Get the fuck out of here.
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Pork chop sandwiches.
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Hey, what I'm gonna do, just just for our little listeners out there, I'm gonna put a link to one of them in our show notes.
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You guys can click on it, go watch it.
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It they took so back in the 80s.
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You'll go down the rabbit hole, correct me.
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Back in the back in the back in the 1980s, just to finish out our show, G.I.
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Joe had a very popular G.I.
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Joe cartoon and comic book and all the toys and all that sort of stuff.
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Well, a group of of individuals, which I don't even know if we can mention her name on here.
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I have no idea.
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No, I'll just have it in the link.
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:46.320
Yeah, uh, made a parody of the GI Joe cartoons.
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So the PSA announcements.
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So what so what they did, yeah, what they did at every was it the beginning of the Joy Joe G.I.
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Joe cartoon.
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At the end, yeah.
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At the end of all the G.I.
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Joe cartoons, they had these little PSA public service announcement, like, you know, Stranger Danger kind of thing, and fire danger for kids to, you know, don't talk to strangers kind of thing.
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Well, this group of individuals took a group of these things and they made parodies out of them.
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And let me tell you something, they are hilarious.
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And some of you will be very offended by them, some of you will not, but they are so funny.
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So you got to go watch them.
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Some of you will forward them to people who will be offended by them.
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:30.960
Yes.
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And but I'll put a link in our show page, and you guys can go check them out and see them because they're just crazy.
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:41.760
And then there was another batch that came out later by another group, and they weren't weren't nearly as funny.
00:35:41.920 --> 00:35:42.159
No.
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They they tried, but but they couldn't do it.
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So but they are classic.
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:51.760
Anyway, so that's our show today, episode number 209, the human fly.
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Hope you guys enjoyed it.
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Go go check it out.
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Watch the link of the interview with human fly and go check at Evil Knievel.
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If you don't have that, you can jump on eBay and buy the Evil Knievel doll, too, the one that that I had when I was a kid.
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Oh, with the pull the string, the thing that you cranked the thing up, that motorcycle gets the wrap up.
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:09.360
Yeah, that that thing cooked, man.
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Yeah, it did.
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That thing was heavy, too.
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And oh god.
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That thing would knock out some front teeth, man.
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Most spectacular crashes.
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Yes.
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Are you guys gonna have him go off the ramp?
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No, he's just he's gonna run into the wall.
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He's just gonna run into the wall.
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That was fantastic, man.
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That was some good times.
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But yep, that's it there.
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So that's our show today, the human fly.
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I hope everyone everyone has an awesome, awesome week out there.
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Bring on the sweater weather.
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Sweater weather.
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And uh hey, we will see you all next time.
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You guys have an awesome, awesome week.
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See you all.
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Bye.