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What would you say or do differently if you stopped organizing your life around the judgment of a future employer?
In Part 2 of Jess’s conversation with former programmer and Tech Workers Coalition organizer Simone Robutti, they examine the fear that keeps many experienced workers silent. Simone calls it “the HR in your head”: the internalized belief that speaking openly, challenging harmful decisions, or expressing your values could make you unemployable.
Their conversation moves from credentialism and professional insecurity to offshoring, international labor solidarity, and the role unions can play in shaping how AI enters the workplace. Together, they challenge the idea that worker displacement is an inevitable consequence of technology—and ask what becomes possible when workers recognize how much power they already hold.
Episode Resources:
https://techworkerscoalition.org
https://architecturesofchange.xyz
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain
Socialist cowboys in the Texas ‘Fence Cutting Wars’
https://www.notechforapartheid.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Professionals%27_Union
https://www.cwu.org/press_release/google-ai-workers-to-enter-union-recognition-talks/
Podcast Guest: Simone Robutti
Simone worked as a software engineer for several years before quitting the industry and becoming engaged in political and labor organizing full-time. He is an active organizer in Tech Workers Coalition and Cables of Resistance. Professionally, he performs digital investigations against workplace surveillance in Reversing.works, teaches political practices under the name Architectures of Change, and consults democratic workplaces on organization development and process design. He is also part of the artistic collective Reincantamento, writing about techno-magic, political activation, and political mysticism.
Connect with Simone Robutti on LinkedIn
Simone’s personal website: https://robutti.me
Reversing Works: https://reversing.works
Podcast Host: Jess Lowry
Jessica Lowry is the Founder and Socio-technical Systems Designer at ENID Studio, a collective of practitioners that enable organizations to redesign work, services, and governance for an AI-enabled future through participatory design and human-centered digital transformation.
She is also a member of Effective Immediately, a community for people leaving, or thinking about leaving, corporate life to build something of their own. Members get honest feedback, business fundamentals, and access to people a few steps ahead while they validate their idea, land first customers, and build the foundation.
Connect with Jess: Jess Lowry LinkedIn
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