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You were listening to DC on Screen. Welcome to DC
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on Screen. I'm your host, David C. Robertson. This is
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my co host Jason Goss.
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Hello.
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As promised, we have a news. We have some news,
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a little bit of news episode news round up, anything
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that we haven't talked about, Peacemaker wise on the Peacemaker
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episodes that we're doing, right, Uh, I guess we're gonna
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talk about here starting off to.
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Superman news in between the Peacemakers at this point in
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our feed.
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Yeah, well, I mean we've still got some Peacemaker news
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in here too. Yeah, So I mean you can't leave
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Peacemaker out. Yeah, I'm not gonna talk about some of
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the shit on the review episodes.
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We normally look like a news show that occasionally does reviews.
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But if you look right.
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Now, yeah, if you look right now, this strange time,
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strange moment in history.
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Yeah, I want to all do it, but then I
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don't want to do all the clipping on the in
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the edit and all that crap later.
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So yeah, but first we're going to we have we
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got like one little piece of Superman news and it's
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just the box Office Update three hundred and fifty one million,
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seven hundred and forty eighty six hundred and thirteen domestic,
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two fifty nine seven hundred for international, and it's worldwide
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six hundred and eleven million, four hundred and forty eight thousand,
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six hundred and thirteen. Uh it no, it has not.
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It has not beaten Man of Steel. I do not
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give a fuck.
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Yep.
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Uh, lots of economic factors are different. International has been
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down for numerous movies. Uh this year. I just read
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an article about that, and uh, but I'm not going
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to get into it because I don't feel like it.
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No, we have a lot too. We have gone into
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that several times as well.
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We've gone into it several times, and I feel like
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when we do, the people who don't want to, the
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bad faith people just laugh at you and be like, Okay, body,
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I don't care. It's fair. Yeah, there's no point. Like
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at this point, you either liked the movie and you
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don't give a fuck if it didn't beat if it
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you know, like, it doesn't matter. I laughed because you
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were I saw you on Twitter or Facebook or something. No, no, no,
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I guess it was threads threads right now. Yeah. Uh,
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someone was like someone posted this big thing with a
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picture and everything that's like like Superman will not pass
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Man of Steel or something, and you were like who
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cares or something like that. It was some big ac
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count and you were just like, who fuck cares? Yeah,
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and I've seen you know what I've started seeing a
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lot lately though, was the resurgence of One Movie Must
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Go Which And I'm always.
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Like, why I forgot about that format where you put
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four up? That was a Twitter thing that I did
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not miss. Yeah, I have not missed that in my
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life at all.
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I've been seeing it a lot on threads lately. You
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have to choose one, No, I don't. I don't have
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to choose one. I enjoyed all of these.
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I mean everything's really spread out right now. I can
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choose another app. That's what I can choose.
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M My dick is Rall from enjoying all of these.
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I also get very muty around some of those repost
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games like that that's.
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Oh yeah, no, it's a great like.
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Due are you very aggressive as well? I imagine I'm
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not the only one that's like this. Back in Twitter days,
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it started as the like hit like if you do this,
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and hit repost if you do this, and I mean,
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I know that was a mostly Twitter thing, but I
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still see it around.
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It's an engagement form, is what it is.
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A soliday Yeah, I know, it's a just a I
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just can't it's a borderline instanmute for me.
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Oh yeah, look, so here's here's what's been happening to me,
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because you know, I joined substack David C. Robertson dot
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substack dot com if you want to check out my newsletter.
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But so I don't know anything about substack. I get
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down there and it's like a lot of writers and
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but it's it's a mostly what I'm seeing is like,
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are people saying, uh, I just want to read I
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just want to read real accounts with real stories who
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don't have many followers. And then they get like a
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ton of engagement of people dropping their shit like hey,
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that's me, and I'm.
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Like, anyone here, y'all tick one, yeah.
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Y'all they're not reading anything.
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They posted that so that they would get a ton
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of engagement, and then people would go, oh, look, they're
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they're real ones. They're they want to read people who
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haven't been discovered yet. I'll follow them. And then they
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sit around and write stupid fucking things like you know.
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Like sincerity baiting maybe dude, dude.
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It's so it's like they'll be like, the best time
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to start your project was tomorrow. Yeah, the second best
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time to start your project is today.
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And I'm like, mute, fucking I am often reminded of
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the Bill Hicks joke about like it takes it hurts
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it was it more more muscles to frown than to smile.
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And then you have take a lot more muscles to
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walk over there and did to shut the fuck up?
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Yeah? Yeah, I just I fucking hate it. I hate it.
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And it's just like why you're substuckers, And it's just like,
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here's three reasons that are really obvious, and the for
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the fourth through seventh reason, you need to sign up
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for my thing, my course. And I'm like, no, yeah,
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I'm not signing up for a course anyway.
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Barely have time for the things that I absolutely have
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to do.
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Almost everything is a scam.
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Yeah, I'll start signing up for courses. What's gonna happen?
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IM?
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I do lingo streak, dear god, what.
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You know? Yeah? Of course? All right, let's talk about peacemaker.
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Did you know that the journalists who got advanced screeners
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only got the first five episodes.
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I knew there was a limit. I thought it was
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like eight.
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Though there's only eight episodes this season, is it? So
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the journalists only got five.
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I thought it was like ten episodes and they got it. Okay,
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so it's eight episodes and they got I guess maybe
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that makes sense now.
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Steve ag was talking to the Hollywood Reporter and he
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was talking about like the theme of his The Grass
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Greener on the other Side, and he says, it's a
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big theme. It's a theme that's tested throughout the entire season,
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and he says the season's willingness to explore the appeal
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of what if scenarios, And according to him, the central
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question of whether the grass is truly greener on the
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other Side is what led DC Studios to withhold the
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final episodes. He says, there's a reason for it. The
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last three episodes are almost like a whole new season.
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They are absolutely insane, and they really cross into that
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actual question even more so, when the hell does that mean?
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I don't know, I'm excited. That's weird.
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That is a weird thing for him to say.
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It is, but I've but it's just enough. Yeah, it
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makes you wonder if something kind of genuinely big is
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gonna happen on like in the season five finale.
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Yeah, dude, I know, I know it's probably not gonna happen,
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but it would be interesting if you know, Peacemaker goes
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and finds Season one piece Maker and like sets him
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up in the universe that he's about to try to
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take over, you know what I mean, Like if that's
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like the final like the door shut on the on
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the DCEU, if like he's just like, blah blah blah,
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here's all this stuff that went down. I can't be
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in this universe. That's not where I'm needed. But then
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for some reason, he at some point finds season one's
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universe and that guy is going through a similar problem,
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or maybe it's even worse. Maybe word things have happened worse.
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Maybe he lost Harcourt and he says, hey, she's right
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over here. You know, that would be interesting.
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I don't know, there's, man, there are a lot of
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doors that could go through for that.
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I've seen some people thinking that, like the jar Head
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that they're talking about with Hardcourt Peacemaker, the jar Head
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that his brother says she's dating now is going to
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be that universus Rick Flagg Junior, Yeah, that would be good.
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I'm like, for purposes of Rick Flagg Senior having his like,
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I don't know, come to Jesus moment, that might work
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really well.
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That is a good point. That is one of the
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only things that could get Chris out of his current
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predicament is to basically give give him the same experiences
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he's had at a dead portal so far. Yeah, like,
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hey man, I know you want to kill me, but
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what if what if you could spend some time with
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your boy instead? Don't kill me and I'll show you
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the door.
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And maybe that Ritten five Junior lost his.
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Dad, Yeah, or just likes his and thinks too dads
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would be cool.
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Yeah, they're both just like extra dad awesome. Yeah, oh, Pat,
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you can just golf scrambles together now.
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Yeah. So I've caught James Gunn kind of being a
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little fishy with the way he's talked about this, because
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he's been like, this is other dimensions. It's not the multiverse, motherfucker.
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This is the multiverse. And then like he did have
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like this one quotehere he says, I thought the simple
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way was really the best, which is just saying this
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world is a little different. We know there's universes, and
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this is the universe in which everything is exactly the
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same as season one except for the Justice League and
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Bat might that's a different universe. That's multiverse, man.
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I mean it doesn't have to be. That ends on
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how much you want to get into inner dimensional versus
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multiverse kind of crap, Like it gets into all kinds
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of bullshit. I don't understand.
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But I mean, well, yeah, but parallel earths for the
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for the sake of storytelling, Well, you know, you're you're
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splitting hairs. It's the same thing.
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You would be. Yeah, and I wouldn't want to, like,
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I wouldn't want to go out on a limb and
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split those hairs for you. As is it? It could
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be that. I just meaning that if he wants to
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really space it out and say no, no, no, those words
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really do mean two things, he could. There is precedent.
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I have to see him do it.
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Yeah, but you know he's just like, it's not like
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the multiverse like we've seen before in in in the movies.
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This is just an extra dimensions. No, it's a multiverse man. Yeah,
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so I love James Gunn, but I feel like he
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has pulled back on saying stuff like that.
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Oh and you remember how much have you heard the
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term parallel universe? Yeah, for parallel universes recently?
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I don't hear that one nearly as much as I
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I mean, there, you know, alternate is is more popular,
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but you know, multiverse is usually the thing people are saying, Well,
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it's just multiverses, it's different reality.
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Yeah, that that word's taking completely aver I really in
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proper parallel universes, you know, we're just like the mustachioed
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version of yourself that is bordered on quicksand kind of material.
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I thought that was going to be way more important.
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But yeah, the multiverse idea took over the landscape.
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still the it's the same thing that.
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That was like FI fear for a long time.
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the original series Star Trek Mirror Mirror, Yeah, they talk
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about it being an alternate dimension. Now, there's another episode
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that came I think before it called the Alternative Factor,
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and they refer to that as an anti matter universe,
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which it was. It was not It was not a
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They say multiverse that. They didn't even say a parallel dimension.
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I don't think they said just an anti matter universe.
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Well, which, even though different, I think that singular is important. Yeah,
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I do, now that I think about it. I I
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think I remember thinking this a while back. I'd almost
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like to track it in a way, but man, I
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used I think at some point the public got used
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to it, there being a lot of them. But back
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in God, in my childhood, it was like what if
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there was one other universe? And it would just always
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be like what if there was one other place or
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another place?
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M hmm.
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You didn't do that plurally a lot. And at some
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point the you know, the whole thing broke open and
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now just everything's yeah, an infinite version of anything is possible,
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and the public knows about that pretty readily.
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Yeah yeah, yeah. What I what I think happened though,
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is because this is the quote I just said from
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Gunn about the different universe, Like that was a while ago,
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and then it felt like he pulled back from that.
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But when he was exp any what it actually is.
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It sounds like a little bit like when Harlan Nelson
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went through his phase many years ago where he refused
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to be called a sci fi writer and it was
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like a speculative fiction. Fine, fine, Harlan, But you know
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it's the same fucking thing, right, Yeah, Like one just
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has a negative connotation in the media. Right now, we're
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going through a bit where people are like, I don't
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like the multiverse, some stick of the multiverse because everyone
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has to be a contrarian. Well that's their version of
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being the cool kid.
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No, I do think there is a there's a way
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to actually be exhausted by it at the moment. I
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not that everybody's going to use it so right as
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validly as I would think, but man, when people are
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it can get a bit scape goody real quick.
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When it's not good, yes, but it's used poorly. Like
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with anything, you get tired of it.
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It's just too powerful. You can get away with things.
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It's easy to be lazy.
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Yeah, I'm looking at you Arrow.
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I wasn't gonna stare at anyone.
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But oh I'll stare right at Mark and I fuck you. No, No,
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I'm just playing. But look, I you know the thing
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about Arrow, when they brought back you know, Canary, I
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felt like that was righting a wrong they got. They
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killed Laurel Off, yeah, because they didn't know what the
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fuck to do with her. Yeah, and then they were like, yah,
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that was there was a really negative reaction and also
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maybe we should have just tried harder to write this character.
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Uh, they they had better at is about what they
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could have done with her after and yeah, they well
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they cornered themselves too with what they did.
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With that fucking grave in the beginning. They didn't even
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know who was in that grave at the beginning. They've
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said that, They've said they didn't know, but I did,
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which is also kind of a an irresponsible thing to do,
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I think.
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Hmm.
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But yeah, and you know she was way better from
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Earth to anyway, but.
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Oh easily yeah, way a different situation.
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Way way you know, more interesting character, I think.
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But the second draft of what can we do with
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this actress was a way better, way better pool.
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It was at a bad time. Yeah, which is funny
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that in my opinion, you know what, I have to
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give her props in retrospect because yeah, that means in
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spite of her being really poorly written, I feel like
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for several seasons, Yeah, she somehow had so much fan
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pool that and apparently on onset pull it she was
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well well loved unsad as far as her Yeah, but yeah,
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she just went over so damn well that they decided
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let's do this again, but let's do it better and
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had a better idea and it and it did better.
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And at the same time the show was doing badly
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and she stood out. Mm hm she she did rise
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above the entire thing as far as that goes. Good,
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good job, I thought about that way.
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Yeah. Yeah, so see this is you know, look, I'm
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not a perfect person. I like to get my jabs in.
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But hopefully is.
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Assumed you were gonna take a swing at Marble a
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second ago.
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No, no, hopefully it's clear though that like I am
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willing to be like no, no, there's nuance. Don't just
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hate it, there's nu once. I don't really hate Mark Guggenheim. Sure,
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I'll give him shit on the show. I don't know
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the man personally, but if he was sitting right here,
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I'd be like, what the fuck? Man? Yeah, we have
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a laundry list of lies.
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He did really enjoy it seemed lying, just straight up
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lying about what's happening.
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Yeah, which I'll you know, in retrospect, I'll take that
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over over the dude who like ended the flash like
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that Wallace guy who was just like, don't worry, it'll
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end with everyone happy and say like fuck you shut up,
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Like you're taking away every steak. Yeah, man, the next
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couple of episodes is gonna be crazy. Uh, they could
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really add some steaks. Don't worry, no one dies, uh,
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and I think they'll all be happy at the end.
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But man, it's gonna be crazy. No, we just took
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that away.
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I mean his his things would be worse, man, I
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mean it'd be like, yeah, man, the next episode, like
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I don't want to say too much, but like the
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talk comes by and like you know, Candae is gonna
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get she's gonna end up with cancer diagnosis, but like
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that's gonna be a big deal anyway. It's probably gonna die,
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but like you'll learn about it during the episode.
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But don't worry. Everyone will be fine. But it'll be
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all right.
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It'll be it'll be sorted, like we have a happy show.
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What part of this doing on reform, you know, and.
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Everyone's worried about the big mystery and you know, man,
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I get it. My mysteries are great. I mean, it's
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just gonna we're just gonna reveal that this but you
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get the guy nder It was Henry Allen, Wesley Allen
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Chip the whole time. But like, I'm glad everyone's enjoying
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it though. Yeah, well the end of the season, John
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Westley ship.
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Yeah. Anyway over to Batman and this is just like
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sort of conglomerated Batman news. So, first of all, someone
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asked James Gunn if he could see Chris Pratt playing
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Batman one day. He says, as a Batman, no, as
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something Yes, Chris Pratt is one of my best friends.
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We talk all the time. He's a great guy, and
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he would love to do something at DC. I would
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love for him to do something at DC. I believe
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that was before Chris Pratt came out talking about how
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great of a guy RFK Jr. Is. So I'm not
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sure how a gun stands now.
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That may have some effect, We'll say might have some effect.
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See Speaking with Variety, Alan Richson addressed the possibility of
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playing Batman quote. Well, it's not rumor that James Gunn
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is a fan. He said it himself, and am I
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a fan of James Gunn. Absolutely. I don't want to
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mislead people. Words have been exchanged about Batman, but I
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strongly don't think that Batman is in my future. I
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do think there is something in my future with DC,
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and I would like that to remain true.
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That's that's a little hope dashy huh, a little. I'd
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still like him there. I think he'd be a big
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win there. But my head goes immediately to death stroke next.
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Hmm. Really, my head went amnutally to immediately to Shazam.
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And the only reason I think they wouldn't do it
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is because Shazam was recently a failure at the box office.
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That is true.
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But that motherfucker looks like Captain Marvel.
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He does, but he is Honestly, I think I went
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with death stroke there just because of his height. Mm hmm.
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And in my head, death stroke stands like head entrench
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with Bruce every time I feel it.
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Hm hm. That's interesting whatever.
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They do with him. He's just such a frame man.
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You gotta use that size.
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Yeah, I went to you know, I thought about Baine
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as well.
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That would be absolutely sick. Actually, yeah, I hadn't gone Villain,
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had gun Villain with him at all.
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But then if you're going to actually do Bay and
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you need that other that motherfucker from the last season
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a Reacher who was like way taller than Reacher.
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Yeah, he could do it. And he already has a
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weird accent. Yeah, so that works out and true. I
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don't know what said. I don't know what Rixon's range is,
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but I feel like I have seen him go all
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over the place.
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Yeah, I mean we saw him in Titans.
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Yeah, he really did some weird stuff on Titans. I mean,
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I know he can do more than just stoic Reacher
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kind of crap.
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Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I mean,
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the guy's been Aquaman, he's been Hawk.
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I forgot about Aquaman until the other day I saw
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that again. He really has been around.
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I think he was maybe Raphael and one of the
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Michael Bay movies.
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Yeah, why not.
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He's been around for sure. Anyway, a lot of fun.
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I'll welcome him back, though I.
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Didn't have this one on my Uh, I don't know
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what is it. Bengo card Is that what it is.
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That's the same.
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Yep, that's the thing. Yeah, I don't know from games look.
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But during the Man of Steel panel at Fan Expo Canada,
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Tyler Heckland talked about his desire to play Batman. He
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was asked if he had seen Pattinson's portrayal of Batman
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and whether or not he felt the actors take on
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Batman belonged in the newly established DC universe. Let it go,
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it's not gonna happen. Stop asking fuckers what if this
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is going to happen or not. Heckland was honest, though,
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he said selfishly, I'm going to say no because I
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still want to play Batman. I didn't, he said, I think,
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and I say that Rob did a fantastic, fantastic jobs
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and Matt reeves it was great. So I'm happy to
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let them keep doing their thing and maybe leave the
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door open. I don't want to see Tyler Heckland play
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Batman in the DCU. I'm sorry, Tyler, why why? I
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just don't want to. I'm done. I'm just good. I
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liked him as Superman, but as fun is. Like, like
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I said it before, that it would be hilarious if
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Henry Cavell wound up playing Batman in this universe.
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He is maybe my favorite stunt cast as far as
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that goes. Yeah, and he would legitimately be good at it.
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Cavell, I think so. I think it would be hilarious,
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and if they go that way, I'll go with it.
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But I don't want it, you know, Like, it's not
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like a thing that I'm just like, Oh, that would
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be like the best thing ever. I mean, my troll
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self thinks, so.
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Yeah, I don't have to have it at all. I
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just think if it was if it was cast out
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of nowhere and someone threw it at him and there
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was no history whatsoever, I'd be like, yeah, man, that
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guy looks like he could definitely be a Bruce Wayne.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, he's gonna be like a forty year old. He's
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been here, he's been around for eight or nine years.
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Bruce cool cool.
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Yeah. I just you know, I don't I see Tyler
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Hecklin less than Henry Cavell, but I don't want either
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of them there.
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Yeah. It's not that I disagree with you, because I
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do agree with you. It's it's just that for his
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own sake, I kind of want to agree with it.
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I mean, look, I will cheer for the guy if
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he gets cast in an animated movie doing the voice
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of Batman. That could be fun. I don't want to
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see his face, it's gonna it would take me out
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so much. I had four movies, sorry, four wonderful seasons
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or three wonderful seasons and a fourth pretty okay season, and.
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It's twenty two episode seasons. I don't think so at thirteen, twenty.
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Eight to thirteen something like that.
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But you've effectively had like twenty movies with him as
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Superman essentially.
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Yeah, I just I don't want to. I think both
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he and Cavil would take me out of it if
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they were playing Batman.
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Yeah, I mean I don't disagree with either. Let's get
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on him for throwing his head in there.
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It's just like how I don't want to see I
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don't want to see Cavil actually take over and play Wolverine.
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It was funny for that one bit.
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It was really funny for that bit. He's not we've
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already done h He's getting a little too old to
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do a certain kind of Wolverine.
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I think he's getting too old to do most of
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anything like that, like as far as superheroes are concerned,
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Like put him in his Hyperion or somebody on Marvel,
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that would be funny.
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00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:23.559
But yeah, well that's my pois. Yeah, he's got to
487
00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:27.480
do He's not old enough to be doing retired people
488
00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:30.119
yet or anything, but yeah, he's in his middle age
489
00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:33.119
superhero rah. Yeah he's gonna do something.
490
00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:35.640
Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying, yeah, we put him
491
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out of pasture or anything. I'm just you know, kind
492
00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:38.720
of we're not.
493
00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:40.160
We're not Logan's running him yet.
494
00:24:44.119 --> 00:24:49.039
We're not MTVVJ and him twenty five. Get him out
495
00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:54.039
of here, all right. So there's a rumor. There's a rumor,
496
00:24:54.359 --> 00:24:58.279
and no one can substantiate it. But according to.
497
00:24:58.200 --> 00:25:00.640
Something in the story right there on to the next one,
498
00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:01.359
it's fantastic.
499
00:25:01.599 --> 00:25:06.880
Yeah. According to some source, reporters were told at a
500
00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:10.640
premier event not to ask Zoe Kravitz about The Batman
501
00:25:10.680 --> 00:25:12.839
Part two because she's not in it and doesn't know
502
00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:17.519
anything about it. It's okay, I could see that being true.
503
00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:21.880
I can also see that being a complete red herring,
504
00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:24.759
Like they're like, Okay, we don't want anybody to know
505
00:25:24.799 --> 00:25:27.480
about what's happening in The Batman two don't ask Zoe
506
00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:30.000
Kravitz about it. She's not in it, Oh okay, knowing
507
00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:32.279
that that will get out and we won't know that
508
00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:35.559
she's in it. Yeah, And I think it's interesting because
509
00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:38.359
you know, scripts have been coming out to the cast.
510
00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:44.359
Colin Ferrell specifically said he hadn't read it yet, but
511
00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:47.559
it's his understanding. He's not in it very much. He says,
512
00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:50.319
he doesn't have very many scenes. I'm feeling like I'm
513
00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:54.640
getting a whiff. I smell something fishy. M Christi Emiliodi
514
00:25:54.680 --> 00:25:55.839
said I would love to be in it, but I
515
00:25:55.839 --> 00:26:01.240
don't know anything. Christi Emiliotti. You know, we've already heard
516
00:26:01.240 --> 00:26:03.079
that Matt Reeves had to go back to the drawing
517
00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:04.720
board because he didn't expect her to be such a
518
00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:07.000
big presence in Penguin. As far as like.
519
00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:12.720
Fan approval, I don't know how, but okay, I don't.
520
00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:16.039
Yeah, I don't know. But so I'm they've set up
521
00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:18.720
stuff with Penguin, they've set up stuff with Sophia, but
522
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:23.079
we're but we're hearing that they're not really a focus here. Yeah,
523
00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:25.839
and Catwoman's not in it. I don't buy any of this.
524
00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:27.720
I feel like it's all bullshit.
525
00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:32.920
I kind of yeah, yeah, I would. My first instinctly
526
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:35.720
we go to going down some road of speculation about, well,
527
00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:38.920
she wouldn't be in that because after all that, you know,
528
00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:43.400
hull abaloo about that how Penguin went and all that. Yeah,
529
00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:45.440
they're gonna spin off a movie or some shit, it's
530
00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:49.720
not all that. Yeah, I'm I would be. It would
531
00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:51.400
be kind of strange for mat Reeves to have to
532
00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:53.680
redo everything. He's still gonna make a sequel to the
533
00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:57.079
Batman movie mm hmm, ultimately has to make the Batman
534
00:26:57.119 --> 00:26:57.559
Part two.
535
00:26:58.119 --> 00:27:00.839
I mean he could absolutely absolutely make it do where
536
00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:05.640
me she left town? Fine, sure she's not there. Penguin
537
00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:08.799
is in charge now of some of some bullshit. Fine,
538
00:27:09.119 --> 00:27:11.640
he's in it for a few scenes. You know Batman
539
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:15.920
you know, threatens them, throws some stuff around. Whatever. Well,
540
00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:17.000
he was not the main villain.
541
00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:20.000
He was one of two last time, so he's only
542
00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:22.839
him being reduced this time after getting a ton of
543
00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:25.720
stage time the other way around. Yeah, his bit about
544
00:27:25.799 --> 00:27:28.720
him not being in it much, I buy Yeah, But
545
00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:33.319
not the catworman part that she she she should be
546
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:35.839
right into the next story. Just based on where the
547
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:36.599
narrative is going.
548
00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:39.720
You know, I'm not so sure, but she did have
549
00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:42.319
a like Sophia had a letter from Selena. I think
550
00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:45.799
at the end of season two, unless they're building up there,
551
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:47.599
they're saving that for part three.
552
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:51.839
True, although here's another angle, though, it's been so long
553
00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:55.759
that who cares. No one's expecting anything other than a
554
00:27:55.799 --> 00:27:59.720
movie that's not true a Batman in it. So yeah,
555
00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:02.759
I don't even remember who was cast other than a Batman.
556
00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:03.720
Throw it in there.
557
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:06.039
I guess I don't agree with you at all, and
558
00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:09.039
that I think everybody is. Everybody's got theories. Man, the
559
00:28:09.079 --> 00:28:12.039
internet's gone crazy about this shit, Like I get for
560
00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:15.359
a while, everybody like once you know, they're a little
561
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:20.400
piece of whatever they liked in the next pord And
562
00:28:20.759 --> 00:28:24.720
you know, I'm not. I'm saying it is entirely possible
563
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:26.799
that all of that is true and they are not
564
00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:29.559
going to do anything with those characters in this next movie.
565
00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:33.920
There's so much Sandbox in the Batman universe.
566
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:37.519
Oh and was the Joker a scene an official release
567
00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:41.440
or just a deleted scene? Still it was you call.
568
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:45.880
And it's an officially released deleted scene like the week
569
00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:46.920
the movie came out.
570
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:49.799
Yeah, but he was keeping it outside of the movie.
571
00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:53.519
Yeah, because it didn't him showing up to talk to
572
00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:58.559
interrogate U, Riddler and Joker h felt like too much.
573
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:01.559
Oh yeah, yeah, don't disagree at all. And what I
574
00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:03.400
relatively long movie there.
575
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:06.720
I suspect that I suspect that the scene is still
576
00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:07.839
cannon in some way.
577
00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:12.079
I mean, I'm a little wondering. But it short of
578
00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:14.680
that rumor, where would you you know, where would you
579
00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:16.440
want to guess he wanted to land with the villains,
580
00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:18.519
because like you said, I mean he could. He's probably
581
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:20.680
not gonna You can't make a movie about that in
582
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:24.079
the Penguin. That's just that that's not happening. That off
583
00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:25.880
the table. You kind of put Riddler away. You probably
584
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:28.400
did that story. Unless you're making he's probably not doing that.
585
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:31.720
One's probably gotta be there. I don't know. I guess
586
00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:32.960
you could give her take. But like.
587
00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:38.039
What he set up was you know, hush, what he
588
00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:42.000
set up? He set up a quart of owls. Yeah,
589
00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:44.400
he set up Joker. Yeah.
590
00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:45.039
Uh.
591
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:49.920
They have set up a continuation of the Selena storyline
592
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:54.319
with Sophia and vice versa. They've set up Penguin being
593
00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:57.559
in charge. I mean, there's so much they could really do.
594
00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:01.519
We just don't know what set up the Joker. Yeah,
595
00:30:01.559 --> 00:30:03.279
And it seemed like at the end of the Batman
596
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:05.559
they were setting up Joker and Riddler teaming up.
597
00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:08.319
Which sounded like the most fun part of the sequels,
598
00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:12.519
that that was the part I'm most immediately interested in. Yeah,
599
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:15.480
I thought, I really did like that conversation. That's a
600
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:17.640
night here and there there though. Mm hmm.
601
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:21.680
It's a good conversation. There's a whole lot that can
602
00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:26.079
play with though. And I think it's hilarious that people
603
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:33.119
keep making these fan posters about mister Freeze, and I'm like, why, what, what,
604
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.400
where's that coming from? Mister Freese.
605
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.119
I mean, yeah, he can pull out fucking king Tutor,
606
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:43.400
connoment king if he wants to it. Whatever you want
607
00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:45.880
to do, I guess. But you don't have to stick
608
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.119
to any of the names that we just used. But
609
00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:51.160
god knows, you're probably gonna grab a couple of them
610
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:55.759
or something similar or something in the main canon main gallery.
611
00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:58.200
Mm hmm. I don't know.
612
00:30:58.279 --> 00:31:01.279
Man, We're thirty six minutes and you wanna you wanna
613
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:04.799
hit the hit the head, jump back, take a break
614
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:09.480
real quick, all right, We'll be right back with some
615
00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:19.799
d C T right after this. Oh right, we are back,
616
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:24.559
and it is, of course time for d C T.
617
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:27.039
A.
618
00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:31.119
I'm starting to like it almost now. Yeah, it's fun
619
00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:32.200
turned the corner.
620
00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:39.279
It's never tea though, it's always soda. Yeah, I don't
621
00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:40.319
really drink tea.
622
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:43.880
All right, So James, I missed tea.
623
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:47.599
M hmm. You can get some non caffeinated tea.
624
00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:49.119
Man, you cannot.
625
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:54.839
You cannot good ones. Uh, I don't know about good. See,
626
00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:57.319
I don't think any of them are good. I just
627
00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:00.880
don't like fucking tea. You don't about a hot tea.
628
00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:04.680
To my real knowledge, like any of the ones I've
629
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:09.480
might mostly cared about. Yeah, like proper tea.
630
00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:12.839
Yeah, I kind of like ginger tea when I put
631
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:15.559
honey in it, honey and lemon in it. But that's
632
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:17.880
when I'm sick. I don't really do it otherwise.
633
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:22.119
There are a couple of like Herbels out there, but
634
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:26.079
it never crushed me to try. Yeah, on rare occasion,
635
00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:28.519
I remember and been like, oh, that's mildly refreshing. It's
636
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:29.400
just not tee tea.
637
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:31.880
Yeah, you know what, sweet tea.
638
00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:34.400
And black tea, hot or cold, I'll take you.
639
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:36.839
Yeah, or it would I do. I do like this
640
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:40.599
Splendor tea. I don't think it's caffeine free though anyway.
641
00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:45.240
The milos, yeah, and I don't think so. All right, Uh,
642
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:49.279
James Gunn talking about uh, the next DCU project to
643
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:53.839
go into production on the I think you're overthinking it podcast.
644
00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:55.599
And look when I say the next one to go
645
00:32:55.640 --> 00:33:00.279
into production, that doesn't mean it's gonna be the next
646
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:04.799
because we've still got Clayface, We've got Supergirl. Maybe those
647
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:08.279
are I'm sure those are switched Supergirl, and then Clayface.
648
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:11.839
Lanterns is gonna be in there somewhere. We already know
649
00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:15.759
that a fucking miracle Man is in production, like there's
650
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:22.000
a lot going on currently. So and no, he's not
651
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:25.200
directing and writing them all. I know some people have
652
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:27.799
said to me, like, you know, I think it's bad
653
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:31.079
that he's directing and writing. He's not. I don't know
654
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:33.480
what you're talking about, No idea what you're talking about.
655
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:37.000
He's not writing and directing Supergirl. He did not write
656
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:41.359
and direct Lanterns. He's not miracle Man. He's not even
657
00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:44.079
writing and directing Creature Commando season two. He's got a
658
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:46.039
writer's room and other directors coming in for.
659
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:49.279
That, nor, as it has been suggested on occasion, has
660
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:51.319
he abandoned all of those roles.
661
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:55.240
Right, No, he's overseeing stuff because he's the fucking creative
662
00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:56.960
part of.
663
00:33:56.960 --> 00:34:03.599
The whatever, the head team. Yeah, there's a there's a mixture.
664
00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:07.960
I have heard the extremes per people demand. It was
665
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:10.800
the extremes on both A and though that's it's just weird.
666
00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:16.119
Well yeah, very very recently heard. Like well, I mean
667
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:17.960
I think he's a great filmmaker. I just don't think
668
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:22.199
you can handle like actually being the runner of a universe.
669
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:25.599
That's what Peter Saffron's there for. Yeah, Like he's handling
670
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:33.360
all the business. That's why they're doing it together. Yeah, Yeah,
671
00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:34.039
I don't know.
672
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:36.119
It's a it was a decent design.
673
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:39.000
I don't so far, so good, no.
674
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:42.000
Reason to be hopeless about whether this could necessarily work,
675
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:47.559
Like it's got a chance and the first movie did fine.
676
00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:51.039
So but when I say the next one in production,
677
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:54.360
I mean like it's after all this other stuff that's
678
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:58.320
still in production that's wrapping and in post right now,
679
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:02.719
and of which there is a lot. So anyway, he says,
680
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:04.880
I can say that probably the next movie we're going
681
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:07.400
to be making is the follow up to Superman, which
682
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:09.880
I don't want to get into too much detail on,
683
00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:12.760
but that's probably the next film we're making. I think
684
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:16.360
hopefully we're making the Batman two before that, and then
685
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:19.079
I think is the Superman follow up. And he has
686
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:22.639
clarified that the continuation of the Superman saga is not
687
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:27.239
Superman two, but a movie in which Corn sweats Superman
688
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:31.280
would have a major role. And then recently he did
689
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:35.920
say that he's currently writing the Superman sequel script. I
690
00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:37.880
just think you're getting into the weeds on how hard
691
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:40.199
it is to talk about this thing, honestly, Like, I
692
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:43.599
don't think any of these things are intended to conflict.
693
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:45.800
They are conflicted because he's like, it's not a sequel.
694
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:48.760
Peacemaker is a sequel, Okay, but I'm writing the Superman sequel.
695
00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:51.440
What the fuck you talking about? Yeah? I think that's
696
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:53.960
all that's happening. Is it's just hard to talk about
697
00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:57.639
because this is a big universe where, yeah, some of
698
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.880
these characters, they're still sequel, sort of.
699
00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:04.000
Like the movie sequels. Whatever he's just talking about now.
700
00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:06.760
And he says, then he says, then we have another
701
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:09.480
TV show which nobody knows about which is going next,
702
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:11.599
and then a lot of that other stuff is still
703
00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:15.320
in different stages of development, so we don't know everything.
704
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:20.599
But yes, I think there's a Superman Family that's sort
705
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:24.559
of a sort of I follow up to Superman. Yeah,
706
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:28.599
that is technically a sequel because it happens after fucking Superman,
707
00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:34.159
but it's not like Superman too. Yeah, you think I
708
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:34.760
got that right?
709
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:38.840
I think so. I believe it was in fact on.
710
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:42.920
First Yeah, people are picking apart all this language, yeah,
711
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:45.519
and acting like he's just you know, I just think
712
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:48.800
it's hard to talk about when you're doing podcasts and
713
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:50.360
interviews and.
714
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:52.920
You know, whatever can be.
715
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:57.679
Oh, you kind of put to rest some of the
716
00:36:57.719 --> 00:36:58.639
ideas that we've had.
717
00:36:59.199 --> 00:37:03.159
Actually mm hmm, let's kill him once you got Yeah.
718
00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:06.559
He was talking about his their version of Maxwell Lord,
719
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:10.960
played by Sean Gunn, and he says Max was retconned
720
00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:14.719
as a sort of muscular evildoer after originally being conceived
721
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:19.840
by J. M. Demaiteus as a Dematius what however you
722
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:22.480
say his name as a multi layered character who was
723
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:26.599
morally gray along with skinny Amanda Waller. It wasn't one
724
00:37:26.639 --> 00:37:31.320
of my favorite comic reimaginings. Our Max is inspired by
725
00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:34.559
the original version, So don't be waiting for him to
726
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:38.320
shoot Blue Beetle in the face. I mean, okay, yeah,
727
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:41.000
And we had talked about like, oh, you know, is
728
00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:43.519
Wonder Woman Gonnas to snap his neck? Is you know
729
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:46.679
Maxwell Lord. There's precedent for him to be this really
730
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:50.840
bad guy running checkmate and shit, not this version. Not
731
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:54.840
this version, because the original Maxwell Lord was a guy
732
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:57.360
basically born into money. His dad was one of those
733
00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:00.159
like rare rich guys who actually try to use his
734
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:04.679
powerful good. Then it came out that like Lord Tech
735
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:07.920
or whatever, his version of the company was behind a
736
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:12.000
carcinogenic product the guilt him alive. He wound up killing himself.
737
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:14.719
After that, Max's mom pushed him to like follow in
738
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:21.880
his dad's footsteps carry the torch, and he did basically
739
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:26.559
by backing his own version of the Justice League. And
740
00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:30.039
that's the Justice League that inspired or partially inspired the
741
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:33.400
Justice Gang as they are currently in the DCU, and
742
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:37.400
he acts as their financier and their friend, and he's
743
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:40.639
very morally gray, but he's not a villain as he
744
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:42.400
did become in the comics later.
745
00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:46.199
Right, So this guy's a jerk, but we're not looking
746
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:50.559
for a major hill turn here, right, He's not about
747
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:51.599
to murderfy anybody.
748
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:56.960
Yeah, which is fine. I actually liked that version of
749
00:38:57.039 --> 00:38:59.360
him and Supergirl where he was like, I'm a piece
750
00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:03.840
of shit kinda, but I can turn good. Yeah, all right,
751
00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:05.079
I set you up for a hope speech.
752
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:09.599
Car here you take it away. I don't at all
753
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:11.480
mind the idea that I can kind of relax about
754
00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:13.719
that major storyline not being in the cards.
755
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:16.119
Mm hmm. Yeah.
756
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:18.840
Well, you know one last thing to worry about.
757
00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:24.159
The Sasha character that's in Peacemaker, who's working for Rick
758
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:26.519
flag right now. Do you remember her from the.
759
00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:27.800
Comics, not a bit.
760
00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:33.639
She was Bruce Wayne's bodyguard, like Wayne Tech in the
761
00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:38.800
comics in maybe the early two thousands. There's a whole
762
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:43.079
storyline where Wayne Tech decided, or Wayne Enterprises, not Wayne Tech.
763
00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:46.199
Wayne Enterprises decided that Bruce needed a bodyguard, of course,
764
00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:48.440
not realizing he's Batman, and no the fuck he doesn't,
765
00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:52.199
of course, but they they appointed him. They hired a bodyguard,
766
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:55.119
and it was the woman who was working for Rick Flagg.
767
00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:57.320
It was her character, same name and everything.
768
00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:01.920
H Now that you pointed out, it's weird that Wayne
769
00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:03.559
Enterprises never did that before.
770
00:40:03.880 --> 00:40:07.679
Right, Uh. And I suspected it was funny to me,
771
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:12.760
uh because I remember that storyline and I remembered thinking
772
00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:17.800
in Arrow God, this is familiar because in the comic,
773
00:40:18.519 --> 00:40:22.079
she figures out that Bruce Wayne is Batman because he
774
00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:25.400
keeps like fucking dodging her and getting away from his bodyguard.
775
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:29.400
Oh yeah, and then she like finds the batshit. She's like,
776
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:30.760
oh yeah, he's Batman.
777
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:32.960
Okay, that makes sense. Yeah that tracks.
778
00:40:33.039 --> 00:40:35.880
Yeah, So then she she is this is the Diiggle arc.
779
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:40.320
She basically yeah, she starts like she becomes a costumed
780
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:45.880
adventurer fighting alongside Batman, and then she eventually goes to
781
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:50.079
work for Maxwell Lord and Checkmate. So there was that,
782
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:52.320
and people are like, oh shit, you know, but I
783
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:52.800
guess not.
784
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:57.239
Across her in the Checkmate series from like five six
785
00:40:57.320 --> 00:40:59.239
years ago. She was in it four or five years ago.
786
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:02.199
Maybe maybe I don't know, if she was still.
787
00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:04.360
Banging around, you know Jake made at that point.
788
00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:07.920
Yeah, I don't know, as I wasn't reading comics like
789
00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:11.599
or keeping up with it at the time at that time.
790
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:14.119
We have a little gap where I have a bunch
791
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:15.639
of stuff on my shelf I was telling you about
792
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:16.079
for a second.
793
00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:19.719
Yeah, I've got a huge I've got so much stuff
794
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:23.159
from like the eighties and nineties and early two thousand.
795
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:26.360
It's probably about two thousand and eight or nine. Yeah,
796
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:30.599
And then like we started rooming together, and I feel
797
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:33.920
like you picked up you were just like you picked
798
00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:37.360
up like two years after I disappeared on comics. You
799
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:37.840
picked it all.
800
00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:42.559
Grab a pool list real quick. It's like, damn you
801
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:44.480
So I covered a couple of years for us, and
802
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:48.280
then we both just ran out of steam for that. Yeah,
803
00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:50.239
I ran out of money and space.
804
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:52.239
You do as you do.
805
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:55.360
I genuinely it's there is a point where you can
806
00:41:55.880 --> 00:41:58.480
I think that's probably that's gotta be. Anyone listening can
807
00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:00.920
maybe chime in on this, but there has to be
808
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:04.280
a pretty regular format to that. Right Like, I've got
809
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:07.039
as many bookcases as I can handle or bookshelves as
810
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:09.400
I can handle of comics right now. And I had
811
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:12.000
the choice of either going into full lifestyle mode where
812
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:14.360
that started to make you know, all the boxes and
813
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:16.159
stuff like that and cataloging them and pull them back
814
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:17.840
and all the crap, or I just had to kind
815
00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:20.440
of phase that out in the physical and yeah, I
816
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:21.360
just hit a wall.
817
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:25.119
Yeah in the physics, be a regular Like in the physical,
818
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:29.920
I will still grab trade paperbacks.
819
00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:31.239
When they're on sale, yes, very much.
820
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:35.119
So I can't do the monthly issues anymore. I would
821
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:38.519
love to. I would love to if I could afford it.
822
00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:44.000
Yeah, but I have like a whole whole have to. Yeah,
823
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:47.039
I have to. There's a number of other things in
824
00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:49.119
my life that have to be right before I had
825
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:52.119
the the cake and around money to rep get that
826
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:55.440
part of my lifestyle. Yeah, before comics get back in
827
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:56.239
on a monthly form.
828
00:42:56.679 --> 00:42:59.199
Yeah. And here's here's the other thing, though, is for me,
829
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:03.920
if I upgrade, if I was able to upgrade my
830
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:09.800
living arrangements, basically, if I could get a bigger house, y'all. Uh,
831
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:13.920
and I'm fucking rich, I'd be going back for like
832
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:17.480
eighties and nineties stuff that I missed before I decided
833
00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:20.079
to grab a pull this for new stuff. That's fair
834
00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:22.559
if that makes sense, because like that's the shit I
835
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:26.079
grew up on. Like I you know, I'm I'd rather
836
00:43:26.119 --> 00:43:27.400
go back for old stuff for a minute.
837
00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:30.440
I have a closet. I just don't. I don't feel
838
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:31.800
like putting stuff in closets.
839
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:35.519
Oh yeah, no, no, that's a bummer. I get it though.
840
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:37.800
You know what, like if you that closet you have
841
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:38.960
as dope as fuck.
842
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:40.039
I do you like it?
843
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:44.119
And I have told you, like you should absolutely fucking
844
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:46.840
put your comics in there on display. Like did you
845
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:49.960
ever watch Malcolm in the Middle, Not only in clips,
846
00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:52.079
there's like a bit where he's like the first time
847
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:54.719
he's forced to hang out with his best friend Stevie,
848
00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:57.480
and Stevie's like has breathing problems and is in a
849
00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:00.199
wheelchair and it's kind of like just not like a
850
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:03.079
cool guy, and Malcolm doesn't want to hang out with him,
851
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:08.039
but like they they're forced together. And then like Stevie's like, oh, yeah,
852
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:09.840
I want to read comics, and he's like, oh, you
853
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:12.159
have comics, and he just like opens his closet door
854
00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:15.280
and it's just like a fucking like walk in comic
855
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:17.440
book shop in there. Because he doesn't have friends. All
856
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:21.400
he does is collect comics. So like that's what I imagine,
857
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:23.960
like you you being able to do with that closet
858
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:28.599
in your office, Like, dude, clear up those shelves.
859
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:30.639
Brother could. But then that like goes in the closet.
860
00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:33.800
Oh man, there's stuff I need to be in the closet.
861
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:35.840
Throw it in the garage.
862
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:39.840
That's then there's stuff that has to be in the garage.
863
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:44.239
But you've got so much space in the garage. Get
864
00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:47.079
one of those Walmart bins, one of those things that
865
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:51.119
like those like you know, rubber Maid drawers or something.
866
00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:53.079
Put whatever you got in the closet, and then one
867
00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:55.159
of those rubber made shelves and you got like a
868
00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:57.519
whole walk in closet to devote to, like putting your
869
00:44:57.559 --> 00:44:59.960
comics on display. It'd be dope as fuck. Ud just
870
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:05.079
like walking in there and like seeing the majesty. I'm
871
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:06.079
telling you, man, I'm.
872
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:07.719
Just gonna move stuff. I'm gonna get a bunch of
873
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:09.800
tubs and hang them from the rafters and make like
874
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:12.119
a drop ceiling out of just a series of tubs.
875
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:15.159
Yeah, dude, you can do that. I've seen stuff like that.
876
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:18.400
It's so dope. You need me in your life, man.
877
00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:23.159
Typerwary e walk fucking I don't know what to.
878
00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:25.400
Do with my house, but I can go over and
879
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:26.559
tell people what to do with theirs.
880
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:35.079
I'm like, girl, what I mean there for just a
881
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:35.800
few minutes.
882
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:48.119
I'll be watching Property Brothers Hometown Takeover. Gun was talking
883
00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:52.760
to Damage. Gun was having a conversation with Rain Wilson
884
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:57.519
for Interview magazine, and uh Gun explained that there are
885
00:45:57.519 --> 00:46:00.000
three factions in the DCU, the meta humans, the world
886
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:03.840
world governments, and corporations. There's Luther Corp. There's Lord Tech,
887
00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:07.239
and Stag Industries and Wayne Enterprises, which are the four
888
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:10.119
big companies that are vying for another type of domination.
889
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:13.760
And they aren't evil corporations really, they're just fucking a
890
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:18.840
moral corporations. These corporations are dependent on the morality of
891
00:46:18.840 --> 00:46:22.519
the figurehead, which makes sense in a storytelling sense, like,
892
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:24.559
of course Luther Corp's gonna be evil as fuck because
893
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:28.440
Luthor is just fucking that guy, right right right. I mean,
894
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:32.039
Stag is an asshole morally ambiguous.
895
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:36.360
They don't say anything about Stagging here, but we've seen
896
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:39.360
some of his outcomes already, and things aren't perfect over
897
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:39.880
its Stag.
898
00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:44.239
Things aren't perfect. He's an asshole, but you know he
899
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:47.800
comes around a little. He's like a foil more than anything. Yea.
900
00:46:48.320 --> 00:46:50.360
In the Metamorphose stuff, I feel.
901
00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:53.360
Like they don't seem to like old father in law
902
00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:54.400
Papy in law.
903
00:46:54.840 --> 00:46:59.000
Yeah, Stag. I'm excited to see where all those things go.
904
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:04.840
Me too. Oh Wayne Enterprises, Lord Tech and Luther Court.
905
00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:06.599
All right, so just Lord, Okay.
906
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:10.320
Okay, Lord Luther Wayne. Yeah, and I'm Overrea going like,
907
00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:13.599
where the fuck is Ted? Where's Court Industries? Is it gone?
908
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:15.480
I mean yeah, I guess.
909
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:19.320
So he was talking about Blue Beetle though, and uh
910
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:22.760
to talk about Blue Beetle, he was talking about Peacemaker.
911
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:24.599
He was like peace Maker was always in a weird place.
912
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:27.880
People say he's a part of the DCU, DCEU, and
913
00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:30.440
he wasn't really. He was a part of this in
914
00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:33.800
between universe of dc when there was nobody really making
915
00:47:33.840 --> 00:47:36.559
sure everything was connected, and at a time when they
916
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.239
were going to rewrite everything with a flash.
917
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:40.639
He was a fever dream basically.
918
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:43.360
Yeah. Yeah, we were kind of able to do whatever
919
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:46.639
we wanted. We had that brash ending, which I loved.
920
00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:49.119
It was one of my favorite things in the whole season,
921
00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:53.039
but it just didn't fit into the DCU and Peacemaker
922
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:56.639
almost there's hardly anything you need to change for him
923
00:47:56.679 --> 00:48:00.000
to slide very easily into the DCU. Same with Bluebear.
924
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:03.360
They just kind of fit in very nicely. But maybe
925
00:48:03.360 --> 00:48:05.960
we have to retcon a couple of things, but this
926
00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:09.280
is the big one. And then uh. In a interview
927
00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:15.199
with IMDb, someone mentioned that they were really they wanted
928
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:18.840
to see a blue Beetle in future seasons, maybe a peacemaker.
929
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:20.960
But and I don't know if that's true or not,
930
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:23.079
if that was what, because I can only find like
931
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:26.800
the little clip where he's not saying what he's referencing
932
00:48:26.840 --> 00:48:30.920
when he's his future seasons. But but Gun did say,
933
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:34.320
you know, I won't say you're not in luck about
934
00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:38.079
Blue Beetle coming. So and we know it's we know
935
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:40.039
it's gonna be Solo. We know it's gonna be that guy,
936
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:45.400
yeah or Jolo, however you say his name. Yeah, I'm
937
00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:47.639
excited about that. I liked Blue Beetle. I didn't, you know.
938
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:51.960
I very recently had some heard some someone was talking
939
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:53.599
to me about I was a shitty movie, and I
940
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:58.760
was like, how it was not mold breaking, but it
941
00:48:58.800 --> 00:48:59.599
was a good movie.
942
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:02.199
I mean, I think it was pretty formulaic, but it's
943
00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:06.800
a it's a genre film, like I enjoyed. I enjoyed it.
944
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:09.599
I don't remember. I don't think that's one that I've
945
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:12.599
rewatched again, so I could probably give that rewatch pretty
946
00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:13.880
happily at some point.
947
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:20.000
Yeah. Yeah. Someone asked on Threads, mister Gunn, if an
948
00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:22.719
actor for some reason can no longer play a character
949
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:25.559
within the DCU, is there a possibility of changing the actor,
950
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:28.599
or will the character be discarded? James Gunn says is,
951
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:31.480
if an actor cannot continue a role, I will change
952
00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:34.880
the actor, no problem. No King's in this DC universe.
953
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:38.320
Mm hmm. I don't think I was gonna endo this
954
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:39.760
question with can I do it?
955
00:49:41.079 --> 00:49:43.800
Yeah, I'm just happy to be like, oh, yeah, fine,
956
00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:47.320
recast him. Don't just that does actually pissed me off
957
00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:50.559
the way Marvel handled that with Majors, where it was
958
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:53.960
just like, oh, we're just or Kang like, don't just
959
00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:57.800
scrub the entire storyline. That was a cool ass storyline
960
00:49:57.800 --> 00:49:58.800
you were building with Kang.
961
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:03.360
Maybe I think he got cold feet about the storyline
962
00:50:03.360 --> 00:50:04.440
too though he.
963
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:06.119
Just thought that there was no way to recast it
964
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:08.360
because Majors was doing such a good job, or what
965
00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:08.840
do you think.
966
00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:10.760
I don't know. For some reason, I got the vibe
967
00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:13.400
when I was reading the stories that maybe it was
968
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:15.519
something he said. I don't remember exactly where this little
969
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:17.800
intuition came from. But for some reason I got the
970
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:22.000
vibe that he didn't feel that great about it, like
971
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:26.280
he it was an opportunity to redo that that he
972
00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:29.840
was like second guessing it anyway. Hmmm, that he just thought,
973
00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:31.840
you know, I can do I maybe I ran across
974
00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:34.880
something where he's where he just encouragingly said, you know what,
975
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:39.079
I really kind of wished i'd done the doomsday thing anyway. Okay, Yeah,
976
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:41.599
which ry be true, it is he didn't take advantage
977
00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:42.320
of it at least.
978
00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:44.679
A bought we have to get out of this multimarse quick.
979
00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:48.960
Yeah. To be fair, though, there's a lot of good
980
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:52.280
hype for doomsday right now, so I don't know. Maybe
981
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:53.280
maybe it did work out.
982
00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:56.840
Seeing a lot of rumors that uh, Robert Downe Jr.
983
00:50:56.960 --> 00:50:59.840
Is feuding with Ryan Reynolds or something. But I don't
984
00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:04.679
know why I'm seeing all that. I don't know. I
985
00:51:04.679 --> 00:51:05.519
don't read it.
986
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:09.639
It's just headlines like one of those AI slopped like
987
00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:12.239
RDJ walked out on the view.
988
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:15.000
I saw a headline that was like Robert Downey Jr.
989
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:18.079
Called Ryan Reynolds's wife was slot. I'm just like, what
990
00:51:18.119 --> 00:51:18.639
the fuck?
991
00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:21.800
That's gonna be a whole genre in the AI and
992
00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:25.639
AI crap, What the fuck is that? One trend?
993
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:25.840
Though?
994
00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:29.079
About like people walking out on the View in particular,
995
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:32.400
it'll be the View or another like daytime show so
996
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:34.960
and so storms out of blah blah blah and and
997
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:36.079
it's just an a thumb.
998
00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:38.920
Now. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know that one.
999
00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:41.920
I don't know why particular headline types are repeated.
1000
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:45.920
Yeah that's odd, but yeah, no, all of all of
1001
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:51.079
those uh rdj Ryan Reynolds things are like AI pictures
1002
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:54.960
of them yelling at each other, Yeah, on a beach
1003
00:51:55.079 --> 00:52:00.280
or something like. It's weird ah speaking to people.
1004
00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:03.679
To a magazine about Okay, gotcha.
1005
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:09.079
James Gunn says of Waller, we're working on it, so
1006
00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:12.440
we'll see what happens. Some things have moved faster than others.
1007
00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:15.639
Waller's has not been the fastest. But I can't wait
1008
00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:18.519
to see Viola put on their Waller pants again.
1009
00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:20.400
Okay, so you still got in mind?
1010
00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:22.559
Yeah, it's still in development.
1011
00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:26.800
He's got her bench in his universe right now until
1012
00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:28.119
he needs her basically.
1013
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:31.800
Mm hmmm, wh's just fun. I don't need to see
1014
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:32.960
him Manda Waller right now.
1015
00:52:33.320 --> 00:52:36.440
No, but it was smart to just sort of literally
1016
00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:38.440
put it in there in a timeless option, like, yeah,
1017
00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:39.679
you pull it out when you're ready.
1018
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:40.480
Mm hmm.
1019
00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:44.519
I mean she was just in Creature Commandos to be fair.
1020
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:46.880
Yeah, I know, but he's already got so many things
1021
00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:48.239
built in it'll be well m.
1022
00:52:48.519 --> 00:52:51.039
M all right. So we're gonna end this with a
1023
00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:53.840
little bit of feedback from Curing Ridgeway and I know
1024
00:52:53.880 --> 00:52:56.000
we have some other feedback, but we'll get to it
1025
00:52:56.920 --> 00:52:59.440
on another day because we're a little strapped for time
1026
00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:02.719
this week. I'm so sorry to those who wrote in,
1027
00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:06.679
but we will get to you. Kieran Ridgeway says, Hey,
1028
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:09.559
David and Jason, great episode, guys, just currently listening through
1029
00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:13.679
the Superman Through the Ages episode. Really enjoyed the description
1030
00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:15.960
of the times of each Superman and it was interesting
1031
00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:18.360
to imagine what it would have been like in that
1032
00:53:18.519 --> 00:53:22.920
time watching Superman. Absolutely stoked to be able to see
1033
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:27.000
the DCUs rise and currently thriving and excited to see
1034
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:29.599
what is to come and that all people have come
1035
00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:34.880
from have some form of DC media. Sorry, it was
1036
00:53:34.920 --> 00:53:37.760
so cool to see Superman merch in the shops, Like yes,
1037
00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:41.239
the kids themselves are now truly discovering him, and it'll
1038
00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:43.760
be great to see how this impacts Superman in the future.
1039
00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:49.079
Great stuff overall. Two questions. If you were to choose
1040
00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:52.800
a villain to be in each of the Trinity's next
1041
00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:57.239
solo adventure, who would you choose? Try to stay away
1042
00:53:57.239 --> 00:53:59.360
from villains used in previous films.
1043
00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:02.599
My first thing was going to be Cheated to repair that.
1044
00:54:02.960 --> 00:54:05.000
Well, I mean, I you know when I say you
1045
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:09.400
can choose that because we didn't really see Cheetah. We
1046
00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:11.880
saw Christian Wigg being Christian Wig.
1047
00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:14.400
Oh that's fair.
1048
00:54:14.599 --> 00:54:17.519
Or Christian Wig playing the Riddler, or Christian Wig playing
1049
00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:19.400
fucking the Mandarin.
1050
00:54:20.440 --> 00:54:23.840
True. True. I mean an easy Batman would be hush.
1051
00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:25.880
I feel like that'd be It's almost hard to find
1052
00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:28.039
one that hasn't been done relatively recently out of the
1053
00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:28.719
main gallery.
1054
00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:33.519
I still want this Cornelia Stark serial killer cannibal storyline
1055
00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:34.440
for Batman.
1056
00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:38.000
Yeah, okay, yeah.
1057
00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:41.639
Like that's some you know, dude cook a cooking a
1058
00:54:41.679 --> 00:54:44.599
dead body and fucking chowing down and throwing the rest
1059
00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:48.159
into the dumpster back. You know, fuck is fucked up.
1060
00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:51.840
I'd still love to see a proper victors as movie,
1061
00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:53.360
And I know we saw him in Birds of Prey,
1062
00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:57.920
but every time we've seen victors As, I kind of go, yeah, kinda,
1063
00:54:58.159 --> 00:54:58.559
not really.
1064
00:54:59.239 --> 00:55:01.800
Yeah, it's always just aspects of him. They just take
1065
00:55:01.800 --> 00:55:04.480
the fact that he's a psychopath and do whatever they
1066
00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:04.960
want with it.
1067
00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:07.440
Yeah, I mean not. I mean, he didn't even do
1068
00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:09.760
that with fucking Batman begins. He was just like a
1069
00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:13.519
name in a court trial. But yeah, I mean the
1070
00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:17.239
closest we got was Anthony Kerrigan and Gotham. But I
1071
00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:20.599
would love to see, you know, victors As as an
1072
00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:25.400
actual main villain, scars and all scars and all doing
1073
00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:28.800
the whole bit. Yeah.
1074
00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:31.880
I have always and will continue to want a gentleman
1075
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:41.199
ghost villain with Batman. Sounds stupid, but my heart wants it.
1076
00:55:41.239 --> 00:55:42.960
I'm sorry he dies.
1077
00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:45.239
Well, I mean you sort of had that in the
1078
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:48.360
Batman the Cape Crusaders show. You know, it wasn't gentleman ghosts.
1079
00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:49.840
It was whatever the other thing was.
1080
00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:50.800
It was a little close.
1081
00:55:51.159 --> 00:55:53.599
Yeah, it was kind of close ish, and we had
1082
00:55:55.480 --> 00:55:58.679
a gentleman ghost popping up in Batman The Brave and
1083
00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:02.239
the Bowl. But yeah, I get it. You want something
1084
00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:05.000
a little sillier, I guess I don't know.
1085
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:08.280
Yeah, I think Giganta would be a lot of fun
1086
00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:12.000
in uh in the DC Studios form or tone.
1087
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:14.800
What do you mean, like for wonder Woman? Yeah, okay,
1088
00:56:14.840 --> 00:56:16.199
I can see that. I can see that.
1089
00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:18.960
I think big growy, big growy villain for wonder Woman.
1090
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:21.599
That would have anyone Gun would hire, would have one
1091
00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:21.800
with that.
1092
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:22.599
Yeah.
1093
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:24.599
Who hasn't Superman touched the recently too?
1094
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:25.599
Brainiac?
1095
00:56:26.079 --> 00:56:26.519
Not true?
1096
00:56:26.760 --> 00:56:31.239
I mean, but everyone talks about Brainiac. Everybody wants Brainiac.
1097
00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:32.280
It is the obvious.
1098
00:56:33.039 --> 00:56:35.360
It is the real, big obvious thing.
1099
00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:38.599
I don't want Doomsday, that's the one I don't want.
1100
00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:40.480
Yeah, for sure, you know.
1101
00:56:41.400 --> 00:56:42.679
Or Bizaro for a second.
1102
00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:46.519
It's interesting that in Peacemaker they had they had the
1103
00:56:47.960 --> 00:56:50.960
newspaper clipping or whatever that said that the top Trio
1104
00:56:51.079 --> 00:56:55.599
defeated Ultra Humanite because he started out as a Superman villain.
1105
00:56:55.960 --> 00:56:57.840
He did before he was an ape.
1106
00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:00.239
Yeah, back in the eight monkey era.
1107
00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:02.800
Yeah, before he was an ape. He was. He was
1108
00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:05.679
a Superman villain. He was he was the anti Superman,
1109
00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:10.320
he was the and he was all brain superman ultra human.
1110
00:57:11.239 --> 00:57:15.559
Yeah, so it wasn't human. Was that you telling me
1111
00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:18.760
about this recently or just run across it where there
1112
00:57:18.800 --> 00:57:21.119
was some small period of comics where you just every
1113
00:57:21.119 --> 00:57:22.840
time he picked one up and had a primate on it.
1114
00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:25.639
Uh. I think we've talked about that on the show
1115
00:57:26.039 --> 00:57:31.239
and uh. But yeah, I know that they it didn't
1116
00:57:31.239 --> 00:57:33.239
even test well. Every time they put a fucking gorilla
1117
00:57:33.320 --> 00:57:36.440
on the on the cover of a comic, it sold
1118
00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:40.039
out like it was doing crazy numbers, and then the
1119
00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:45.440
DC off fighting to get gorillas on the on in
1120
00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:48.039
their books. It was crazy. That's why DC has so
1121
00:57:48.079 --> 00:57:50.519
many fucking apes.
1122
00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:52.239
Ton apes.
1123
00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:55.559
There are a ton of gorilla characters absolutely m hm.
1124
00:57:57.119 --> 00:57:59.840
So yeah, I don't know that I answered the question, and.
1125
00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:03.519
Well, I think about the next one about how do
1126
00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:05.480
we do next? I think we snuck that in there somewhere.
1127
00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:08.679
Yeah. I don't know that I even touched Wonder Woman.
1128
00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:17.400
I wouldn't mind touch on one woman. Yeah, you know,
1129
00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:21.320
I don't. I've never been too interested in most of
1130
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:25.480
Wonder Woman's robes gallery. I think Sirs is probably my
1131
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:27.280
favorite one, so I'd like to see her, which I
1132
00:58:27.320 --> 00:58:30.920
think we just did Creature Commandos, so she's the one
1133
00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:34.280
that is interested in me the most, probably had the
1134
00:58:34.280 --> 00:58:34.960
most fun.
1135
00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:36.559
With I think I would like to see her take
1136
00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:39.360
on magic. Well, I say that I would have. There's
1137
00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:41.480
times when I would have not enjoyed it as much,
1138
00:58:41.519 --> 00:58:43.199
but I think I would really like this one.
1139
00:58:43.559 --> 00:58:49.119
Yeah. Yeah, man see Batman, So I said, Superman, Brainiac
1140
00:58:49.639 --> 00:58:53.199
probably or Ultra Human eight, Wonder Woman Circe.
1141
00:58:55.400 --> 00:58:58.400
Yah, yeah, thank you pretty hard?
1142
00:58:58.760 --> 00:59:00.360
Yeah all right?
1143
00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:04.440
Or so if not, there are other magical villains that
1144
00:59:04.480 --> 00:59:07.840
she's faced at this point that she could. Yeah, she's
1145
00:59:08.519 --> 00:59:11.119
pretty heavy into the Justice League Dark version of things.
1146
00:59:11.159 --> 00:59:13.559
Now, if dude, if they did like a if they
1147
00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:18.719
really like got inventive with Felix Faust, I might be down.
1148
00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:23.440
He's just making you know, fast, But yeah, in my head,
1149
00:59:23.480 --> 00:59:27.679
he's like a lening Tunes character with like a stereotype history.
1150
00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:32.639
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know anyway, Let's see
1151
00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:35.559
what else does he say? Oh, what obscure or lesser
1152
00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:38.639
known character would you like to see on film or
1153
00:59:38.679 --> 00:59:41.239
a TV show? I would like to see the Cowboy
1154
00:59:41.599 --> 00:59:46.880
Vigilante that dream date Faust? Yeah, yeah, we have seen
1155
00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:50.400
in Constantine. Actually I think we saw Faust constantly.
1156
00:59:50.639 --> 00:59:52.920
I think he had Ah, I think we did, didn't
1157
00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:53.639
we Constantine?
1158
00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:57.199
Yeah? We did, didn't we? Yeah? I love I love
1159
00:59:57.239 --> 00:59:59.519
the idea of Cowboy Vigilanti. I'm just sorry Nathan Filling
1160
00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:01.159
is an Availa able to play him like he did
1161
01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:06.360
in Justice League Unlimited. Uh yeah, I'd like to see
1162
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:09.079
Cowboy Vigilani. It would be fun. That would be dude,
1163
01:00:09.079 --> 01:00:12.679
that would be so fucking great if we found out
1164
01:00:12.719 --> 01:00:15.199
that Adrian's if they just did a thing where it
1165
01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:17.679
turned out Adrian's whole family line where it was crazy
1166
01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:20.960
as fuck and there was he got this character Vigilani
1167
01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:24.079
from like his great great great grandfather or whatever, and
1168
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:28.480
there's like a single fucking blurry old Sepiotone picture of
1169
01:00:28.559 --> 01:00:32.679
him as like the Cowboy Vigilani. I would love that shit.
1170
01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:33.920
That would be a lot of fun.
1171
01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:35.880
They could do whatever they want to bring him into
1172
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:42.280
the present day. It could, it would work. So yeah,
1173
01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:44.280
Kidz says, thanks for reading the email and sorry it
1174
01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:47.239
was length they did. You're good. Uh just wanted to
1175
01:00:47.239 --> 01:00:51.719
show my appreciation. So uh, I feel like I say
1176
01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:54.199
this a lot. I would love to see ambush bug.
1177
01:00:54.280 --> 01:01:02.039
I would love to see uh our guyle is sentient
1178
01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:03.920
sock arch Nemesis.
1179
01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:08.960
Yeah, anything you know, extra dimensional like that would be
1180
01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:11.079
a lot of fun, just to have a one of
1181
01:01:11.079 --> 01:01:11.880
those kinds of wars.
1182
01:01:11.960 --> 01:01:15.599
Yeah, uh yeah. And you know, as far as obscure characters,
1183
01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:17.599
I feel like I'm gonna get that because you know,
1184
01:01:18.840 --> 01:01:22.239
I would probably also pick like Miracle Man and Big Barta.
1185
01:01:23.320 --> 01:01:24.840
There are a fair amount of people that I would
1186
01:01:24.840 --> 01:01:29.239
have picked as obscure characters that are no longer that obscure.
1187
01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:32.719
Yeah, they're not as obscure anymore.
1188
01:01:33.400 --> 01:01:36.199
Or Animal Man might be one I'm throw out there.
1189
01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:38.679
He's not obscure, Buddy Sex, but he's he's he hasn't
1190
01:01:38.679 --> 01:01:39.280
been on screen.
1191
01:01:39.719 --> 01:01:42.480
I think he's pretty obscure. Really, I really, I really do.
1192
01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:45.000
I think I think all of these characters are pretty
1193
01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:48.320
fucking obscure. And we are just we are who we are,
1194
01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:51.119
we where we are deep in the weeds, my friend,
1195
01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:55.079
we are in we are riding on the back of
1196
01:01:55.119 --> 01:01:58.559
that fucking horse from the Never Ending Story who's into Quicksand.
1197
01:01:58.719 --> 01:02:07.519
That's you're not talking to a person who's sitting within
1198
01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:10.280
several feet of not one but two editions of the
1199
01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:17.599
DC Comics Encyclopedia, Which which is fun? I mean, just
1200
01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:19.760
to flip through that thing and answer the question of
1201
01:02:19.800 --> 01:02:22.320
which obscure characters is a lot of fun, which we
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01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:23.360
do on Patreon sometimes.
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01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:26.639
Basically, I mean, I'm, you know, just over my shoulder,
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01:02:26.679 --> 01:02:30.760
I've got the Batmo beast. I mean that ain't right,
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01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:37.039
that's true. Oh, Adam Strange.
1206
01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:41.559
Again, you know I always want to Strange. Yeah, in
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01:02:41.599 --> 01:02:43.880
the sense that everything's obscure. He is obscure, but in
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01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:45.960
the sense that nothing is I guess then, like he
1209
01:02:46.159 --> 01:02:49.559
has been on screen recently Krypton and had a major
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01:02:49.599 --> 01:02:51.119
story recently with Tom King.
1211
01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:55.719
Yeah, he's obscure really anymore? D like Tom King and
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01:02:55.760 --> 01:02:58.079
James Gunn And the nicest way possible is this is
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01:02:58.119 --> 01:03:01.599
not an insult obsecurity. They're totally sucking each other's dicks,
1214
01:03:02.400 --> 01:03:06.000
and and they should.
1215
01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:09.840
But it is the best possible porn. We're all benefiting
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01:03:09.840 --> 01:03:10.159
from it.
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01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:13.719
Yeah, this is this is a highly productive batt of
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01:03:13.719 --> 01:03:15.719
love making. Yes, and.
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01:03:17.159 --> 01:03:19.960
Just I mean that's what I'm holding gatorade, ready for
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01:03:20.519 --> 01:03:21.079
ready to help?
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01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:23.559
It's yeah, I kind to eat your electrolytes.
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01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:23.880
Yep.
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01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:28.599
So like, yeah, I love old Adam Strange. I love
1224
01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:31.559
the new spin on Adam Strange. I give it to me,
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01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:34.480
let me see it. I want to see.
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01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:37.679
I really would have picked mister Miracle as my obscure
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01:03:37.719 --> 01:03:41.280
one at some point. God, you know, I hadn't been
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01:03:41.280 --> 01:03:44.719
around for a while. I still Scarecrow's borderline dipping into security.
1229
01:03:44.760 --> 01:03:46.039
I can almost grab him again now.
1230
01:03:46.360 --> 01:03:49.400
But you know, even even in the in an Age
1231
01:03:49.639 --> 01:03:51.760
the Gun talks about where like everybody's sort of doing
1232
01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:54.320
something and no one's like overseeing whether or not it's
1233
01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:58.000
connected or not, we still got a lot of stuff
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01:03:58.039 --> 01:04:01.679
like Hawk and Dove would be easily on my list, true, true,
1235
01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:04.239
And we just got that in Titans, or a version
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01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:05.800
of that in Titans.
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01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:09.199
One of my recent favorites. I'm actually glad I made
1238
01:04:09.199 --> 01:04:13.719
that sound that sounded it was fitting. Detective Chimp. Oh yeah,
1239
01:04:14.119 --> 01:04:18.039
abs the recent versions where he's Injustice League Dark and Man,
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01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:20.280
I want the Magical Detective Detective Chimp.
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01:04:20.320 --> 01:04:26.239
Hell yeah, hell yeah, Ragman, Oh Gott, that is that
1242
01:04:26.320 --> 01:04:39.119
is Shadow Pack Shadow Pack Shadow Yeah, oh yeah, Ragman
1243
01:04:39.199 --> 01:04:43.119
and Chimp and Detective Chimp and Shade.
1244
01:04:43.360 --> 01:04:44.840
I think the theme is that me and you're really
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01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:48.239
itching for a magic DC movie, a proper magic DC movie.
1246
01:04:48.599 --> 01:04:54.159
I think we are. It's ravating too, because like James
1247
01:04:54.159 --> 01:04:56.360
Gunn is like, well, gir moos never reached out to
1248
01:04:56.360 --> 01:04:58.039
me and said that to me, and we're friends. I'm like,
1249
01:04:58.119 --> 01:04:59.719
fucking call him and be like, do you want to
1250
01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:02.559
do just just like dark, they just know, just do it.
1251
01:05:04.320 --> 01:05:14.199
I am call him, Yeah, call the man. Yeah.
1252
01:05:14.360 --> 01:05:18.480
As a as a off heard phrase or imperative in
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01:05:19.280 --> 01:05:21.679
my house growing up, my dad would let the house
1254
01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:24.039
like code of pot and I don't know what to
1255
01:05:24.039 --> 01:05:25.320
do about it. And my mom would be like, call
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01:05:25.400 --> 01:05:28.280
the man, Call the man.
1257
01:05:28.360 --> 01:05:31.159
Which man, whichever one's the right man for this, call him,
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01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:33.000
call him right the hell Now.
1259
01:05:33.519 --> 01:05:35.920
I'm not calling him. I can fix it. No, you
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01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:38.320
can't or you won't. I don't care which one it is,
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01:05:38.360 --> 01:05:39.199
but just call the man.
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01:05:39.679 --> 01:05:42.559
One of those two will be right. Combination, I don't know,
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01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:43.760
call the fucking dude.
1264
01:05:44.199 --> 01:05:46.400
I mean, it became an It was a catchphrase for her.
1265
01:05:46.480 --> 01:05:48.880
She thought it was funny at some point, like as
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01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:51.480
frustrating as it was funny because he no matter what
1267
01:05:51.519 --> 01:05:54.400
it was, it was like, I don't know, my stomach
1268
01:05:54.440 --> 01:05:56.000
hurts after that surgery. I don't think it's right.
1269
01:05:56.039 --> 01:06:01.960
Call the man, you check up, Call the many.
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01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:09.400
Can you bring me a towel? Call the man? Oh
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01:06:09.519 --> 01:06:12.360
power girl, Oh power girl's.
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01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:15.400
Going to yeah, power girl? Yeah? And I won't be
1273
01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:17.480
upset if they if they woke a fire and don't
1274
01:06:17.480 --> 01:06:20.440
show her titties, it's okay. I just like the character
1275
01:06:22.920 --> 01:06:28.000
since apparently wearing clothes is now woke as well that one.
1276
01:06:28.679 --> 01:06:31.679
Granted, it would be hard not to, it'd be hard
1277
01:06:31.719 --> 01:06:35.280
not to do her costume to some extent, but like, man,
1278
01:06:35.400 --> 01:06:37.360
if you toned it down just a couple of notches, no,
1279
01:06:37.559 --> 01:06:40.800
no one blame you, No one blame you, just saying, yeah,
1280
01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:43.760
that's the she's fourteen out of ten right now in
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01:06:43.800 --> 01:06:45.639
the toned up stage. If you just put it down
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01:06:45.639 --> 01:06:46.239
to eleven or.
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01:06:46.199 --> 01:06:50.039
Twelve, That's the funny thing is like that, I'm I'm
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01:06:50.079 --> 01:06:55.000
not certain you know, I have a grasp on because
1285
01:06:55.000 --> 01:07:00.519
it's like, you know right now. I came up in
1286
01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:04.079
the time where it was like, no, we're not we're
1287
01:07:04.119 --> 01:07:07.559
not supposed to, you know, to be progressive about all this.
1288
01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:11.360
You're not supposed to like shame a woman for wearing
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01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:14.400
what she wants to wear. But then somewhere it started
1290
01:07:14.440 --> 01:07:17.960
happening that it was like how dare you let her
1291
01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:20.360
wear that? And I'm like, this is the character. This
1292
01:07:20.400 --> 01:07:22.280
has always been the character. Yeah, but it was because
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01:07:22.320 --> 01:07:25.639
of evil men. Oh, okay, But then like other like
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01:07:25.840 --> 01:07:28.079
people like Amanda Connor came sort of come out with
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01:07:28.079 --> 01:07:30.199
like Harley Quinn and stuff. She had Power Girl and
1296
01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:34.159
the old standard costume and shit, and then people were like, well,
1297
01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:35.239
I don't know what the fuck to do with that.
1298
01:07:38.440 --> 01:07:40.920
It's like that old Norm McDonald bit on Weekend Update
1299
01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:44.320
where like he like makes a joke about women drivers
1300
01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:47.840
or something and he's like and everyone booze, and he's like, aha,
1301
01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:50.079
how about that joke was written by a woman and
1302
01:07:50.079 --> 01:07:51.679
everyone was just quiet. He's like, yeah, now you don't
1303
01:07:51.679 --> 01:07:55.360
know what the hell did I'm just kidding. We don't
1304
01:07:55.360 --> 01:08:01.280
employ women here, no, uh yeah, I just.
1305
01:08:01.320 --> 01:08:03.480
Didn't be true, mostly due to a lack of an
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01:08:03.480 --> 01:08:04.679
ability to employ anyone.
1307
01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:09.159
Right. Uh. But then you have you know, Tina Fe
1308
01:08:09.159 --> 01:08:10.880
and Amy Pollar come in and just like run the
1309
01:08:10.880 --> 01:08:14.920
fucking show for a minute. So yay, some of the
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01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:18.680
best fucking SNL too. Killer God love Tina Fe. Yeah,
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01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:24.720
so yeah, I don't care. I honestly, I think I'm
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01:08:24.720 --> 01:08:27.560
a little partial to the recent thing with Power Girl,
1313
01:08:27.600 --> 01:08:31.920
where you know, she's got pants and a jacket, like
1314
01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:33.479
a red jacket instead of the cape.
1315
01:08:33.560 --> 01:08:34.279
I haven't seen that.
1316
01:08:34.640 --> 01:08:37.399
Yeah, that's a thing. I like that. I'm a sucker
1317
01:08:37.399 --> 01:08:40.000
for a jacket, for like a short jacket. I think
1318
01:08:40.119 --> 01:08:42.159
Rogue did it to me and the X Men back
1319
01:08:42.159 --> 01:08:42.800
in the nineties.
1320
01:08:42.920 --> 01:08:45.680
Oh yeah, I mean, yeah, I get it. I don't
1321
01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:47.760
think that hit them. We didn't, you believe have a
1322
01:08:47.800 --> 01:08:48.520
short decket too.
1323
01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:49.880
No, she had a long coat.
1324
01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:52.439
It was a long coat. Yeah, I'm mixing those up then.
1325
01:08:52.720 --> 01:08:56.199
But she was like twelve, true, so I wasn't. I
1326
01:08:56.199 --> 01:08:58.520
didn't feel even as a child little.
1327
01:08:58.279 --> 01:08:59.880
Older for me at the time that I was watching
1328
01:08:59.880 --> 01:09:00.840
the original.
1329
01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:03.000
It was a little old, like I just slipped right
1330
01:09:03.079 --> 01:09:05.159
on past. Like it was like she was a little old,
1331
01:09:06.039 --> 01:09:10.680
but still, you know, wasn't hitting the hormone buttons, yeah,
1332
01:09:11.119 --> 01:09:14.960
you know, and then uh yeah, I just missed right.
1333
01:09:15.760 --> 01:09:17.680
They tried. It was weird. They tried to age Jubilee
1334
01:09:17.760 --> 01:09:19.479
up and made her sexy in the comics later on,
1335
01:09:19.520 --> 01:09:21.960
and it was just weird. It was just weird.
1336
01:09:22.479 --> 01:09:24.319
I can see it. Not how I got to know her,
1337
01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:24.680
you know.
1338
01:09:25.039 --> 01:09:27.159
It was just like I remember when she was like
1339
01:09:27.399 --> 01:09:33.600
twelve and going on adventures with Wolverine. Yeah, and uh yeah,
1340
01:09:33.880 --> 01:09:38.399
he was calling her kid and shit, like yeah.
1341
01:09:37.520 --> 01:09:39.359
I thought the person with bubble gum still, damn it.
1342
01:09:40.159 --> 01:09:43.359
Yeah, yeah, it was weird that they tried to age
1343
01:09:43.399 --> 01:09:46.199
her up. And I'm not saying she can't be aged
1344
01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:49.159
up or comic book characters can't be aged up. God knows,
1345
01:09:49.199 --> 01:09:52.079
and so do all the people fantasizing about night Wings.
1346
01:09:52.119 --> 01:09:56.479
Ass Uh, you don't have to keep them children forever.
1347
01:09:57.159 --> 01:10:00.159
It's one of the more impressive asses in comics. Are
1348
01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:02.239
out of comics. I think it's illegal not to make
1349
01:10:02.239 --> 01:10:03.159
it in actual circle.
1350
01:10:03.520 --> 01:10:05.960
You know, it's funny, it's funny. Those are the two
1351
01:10:06.039 --> 01:10:10.520
that I talked about because Jubilee and Nightwing, those are
1352
01:10:11.159 --> 01:10:14.640
two characters pretty specifically that people fight about whether or
1353
01:10:14.680 --> 01:10:15.239
not they're Asian.
1354
01:10:16.399 --> 01:10:17.239
It's finney.
1355
01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:23.279
Which Jubilee is Asian. It's weird that they drew her
1356
01:10:23.359 --> 01:10:26.319
with big blue eyes for a while in the comics.
1357
01:10:26.600 --> 01:10:29.000
I feel like people didn't know, like some of the
1358
01:10:29.079 --> 01:10:29.760
artists didn't know.
1359
01:10:29.800 --> 01:10:31.800
You know, I don't think I ever reached it one
1360
01:10:31.840 --> 01:10:32.199
way or the other.
1361
01:10:32.319 --> 01:10:34.199
Yeah, yeah, that was weird.
1362
01:10:34.319 --> 01:10:35.560
Nighting comes up though.
1363
01:10:35.800 --> 01:10:38.199
Yeah he does. I'm not confused, but I don't know
1364
01:10:38.359 --> 01:10:39.399
he's Romani.
1365
01:10:40.079 --> 01:10:41.800
I mean he yeah, I guess he is Romani And
1366
01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:44.239
like the once you actually give him a story, he's
1367
01:10:44.239 --> 01:10:45.760
got one, but even without a story, he just kind
1368
01:10:45.760 --> 01:10:49.119
of looks like an average white dude. Yeah, and then
1369
01:10:49.199 --> 01:10:51.239
well he was and you hear his name, and there's
1370
01:10:51.439 --> 01:10:54.319
no forgiveness whatsoever, and the white dutiness of it.
1371
01:10:54.600 --> 01:10:56.520
Right, I think he was just a white dude. And
1372
01:10:56.560 --> 01:11:00.000
then at some point was it Devin Grayson who made
1373
01:11:00.279 --> 01:11:04.319
Ramani or gil simonone somebody I can't remember who it was,
1374
01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:07.600
relatively a new thing, was it?
1375
01:11:07.960 --> 01:11:11.000
That was that part of quart of Oles.
1376
01:11:12.359 --> 01:11:14.159
It wasn't part of Court of Owl's. It was before
1377
01:11:14.199 --> 01:11:15.640
that Wind did.
1378
01:11:17.680 --> 01:11:22.239
The Gray soon that was adding to the Romani thing.
1379
01:11:22.760 --> 01:11:25.720
Devin Grayson began writing the character in the late nineties
1380
01:11:25.720 --> 01:11:30.359
and early two thousands. Yeah, yeah, that was a Gotham
1381
01:11:30.439 --> 01:11:32.760
Night's Number twenty in two thousand and one. I had
1382
01:11:32.760 --> 01:11:38.319
that issue. Yeah, absolutely absolutely, alrighty, well, that's I can't
1383
01:11:38.319 --> 01:11:41.359
believe I remembered that. Jesus Christ very impressed.
1384
01:11:46.359 --> 01:11:47.800
Amazing what sticks around in it?
1385
01:11:48.159 --> 01:11:51.479
Yeah, it doesn't matter, though, it doesn't matter. I don't
1386
01:11:51.479 --> 01:11:55.920
think they've ever had someone of Romani heritage playing Dick
1387
01:11:56.199 --> 01:11:59.279
in anything. It's always been a white dude with brown hair,
1388
01:11:59.319 --> 01:12:00.479
which I've hated.
1389
01:12:03.479 --> 01:12:05.920
Yeah, I guess he is supposed to be black haired,
1390
01:12:05.960 --> 01:12:09.439
beasted on every drawing I've ever seen in btas where Yeah,
1391
01:12:09.560 --> 01:12:12.760
I do immediately think of him in BTS sharp lines
1392
01:12:12.840 --> 01:12:15.199
like that in my head when I visualized night when
1393
01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:17.840
he looks like that, or or one of the recent
1394
01:12:17.920 --> 01:12:21.439
covers from like the Tom Taylor run that very much
1395
01:12:21.520 --> 01:12:25.720
remind me of the old BTS, like line, I guess
1396
01:12:25.760 --> 01:12:28.159
the line sizes, you know, mm.
1397
01:12:28.079 --> 01:12:31.039
Hmm, I do. I do, Like I am in favor
1398
01:12:31.119 --> 01:12:34.880
of diversifying the robins a bit more like I'm not
1399
01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:37.479
a big fan of all of them just looking like
1400
01:12:37.520 --> 01:12:39.640
the same white kid with black hair.
1401
01:12:40.159 --> 01:12:41.600
Yeah, I mean, I guess. I mean, there's no reason
1402
01:12:41.640 --> 01:12:43.720
it has to be sure. It's not like he was
1403
01:12:43.720 --> 01:12:47.199
trying to disguise these kids as his genetic offspring.
1404
01:12:47.279 --> 01:12:50.279
Right, and like I could see if he made them
1405
01:12:50.319 --> 01:12:52.760
wear a wig or something in the early days or
1406
01:12:52.960 --> 01:12:56.199
diet or something. But you know what, Like I mean,
1407
01:12:56.239 --> 01:13:01.199
originally Jason Todd had like blonde or red hair. They
1408
01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:03.479
went back and forth because old comics and colors.
1409
01:13:03.600 --> 01:13:05.359
Sure, yeah, that's tract.
1410
01:13:06.239 --> 01:13:08.600
So the original Jason Todd was more of he was
1411
01:13:08.600 --> 01:13:12.640
a ginger Yeah, and then that changed post crisis. You know,
1412
01:13:12.800 --> 01:13:16.039
if you wanted to go back and make Jason redhead again,
1413
01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:19.159
it would be upset make him a redhead again. Keep
1414
01:13:19.239 --> 01:13:22.960
Dick Romani, you know, all of a sudden, Tim Drake
1415
01:13:23.119 --> 01:13:26.079
is Asian or something. I don't know, like, I mean,
1416
01:13:26.840 --> 01:13:28.479
maybe diversify a little.
1417
01:13:28.239 --> 01:13:30.720
Bit, you can, now that I'm thinking about the history.
1418
01:13:30.720 --> 01:13:32.600
It's probably just more that this all just sort of
1419
01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:36.880
evolves out of history that's now decades old, and we're
1420
01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:40.039
basing this off like forty fifty to sixty even seventy
1421
01:13:40.079 --> 01:13:42.720
years ago to some extent, and at that time would
1422
01:13:42.720 --> 01:13:44.920
have been super fucking strange if he just had like
1423
01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:47.840
a TaiWhen he's eight year old war or some shit.
1424
01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:51.439
Well, then it becomes like it also becomes like, I
1425
01:13:51.479 --> 01:13:54.479
don't like the fact that this Bruce Wayne, that Batman
1426
01:13:54.640 --> 01:13:57.560
keeps adopting ethnic children, especially in danger.
1427
01:13:57.920 --> 01:14:02.319
Yeah, like for most of Midcenter nineteen hundreds, there's no
1428
01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:06.119
single small demographic you could have put him with that
1429
01:14:06.159 --> 01:14:08.920
wouldn't have been some kind of really fucked up for
1430
01:14:09.039 --> 01:14:13.159
different reasons, like yeah, any version of reasons, Like.
1431
01:14:13.119 --> 01:14:16.720
No, fine, great, now the new Robin is fucking short round, Yeah,
1432
01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:21.399
like you don't want to do that stereotype. Oh god,
1433
01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:22.439
that's strange.
1434
01:14:22.640 --> 01:14:26.119
Yeah, it just stuck with a bunch of white, adjacent
1435
01:14:26.319 --> 01:14:27.039
looking kids.
1436
01:14:27.199 --> 01:14:29.279
You know. Well, no, only one of them was Jason.
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Yeah.
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Uh, all right, I think we're gonna call it on that.
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Oh Jit, okay, huh yeah, she's done. I guess all right, let's.
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Yeah, you're good. Yeah, he sounded so shocked.
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I am. I was surprised. Well did you find another story?
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I did? Uh, thank you Kieran and uh or kids,
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and uh, thank you guys for listening. And we'll be
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back with another piece maker review, and we'll be back
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with news at some point when it builds up a
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little bit. Again. This was I mean, we still made
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a fair amount of time out of six pages.
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Sure, sure, but.
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I had fun. Did you did you have fun? Oh?
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For sure? Did you like it Jason a little bit?
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Did you like doing the show? Yeah?
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Most?
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Okay, Yeah, just trying to make sure that you're happy.
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I'm just going to back away every time you ask again,
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it's gonna get worse. Uh by the sixth question, I've
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hated everything we've done.
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Right, and then you'll be matching my mind.
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Yeah, it's called question.
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I've questioned every fucking thing I've said on this podcast.
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Patreon dot com slash DC on screen. If you want
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to go over there, you can be a free member.
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You won't really get anything but the community out of it.
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But no, it's still fun. It's still well, maybe it's fun.
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I don't know.
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I've had a bunch of bunch of new stuff up
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there recently.
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We have, we have and I do publicly post stuff that,
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you know, I've put up this outside of DC on screen,
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like the new newsletter that I'm doing, and I'll put
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up you know, some social media stuff that I this
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DC related. And but for a dollar a month you
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get every episode add free, all of these episodes, just
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without all the annoying ads in the middle or throughout,
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and and then for five dollars a month you get
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all of that, the community, the ad free stuff, plus
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you know, hit the microphone, plus whenever we put up
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you know, like a Marvel review or comic castaways or
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whatever the hell we're doing recently.
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So dragged you the middle of the evening to the fantastic.
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For you did the evening, late night, late night, motherfucker.
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I considered evening to like three am.
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I know you're just wrong. This is not subjective.
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I don't know why that word changes in my head.
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It just feels whatever.
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Hm. Anyway, I didn't mind either way, had a good time.
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We did. We did still got a couple of pop
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tarts left, fantastic four pop Tarts. I man, I was
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so bummed out. People We've been catching up on Love's
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Blond and they were eating fucking pop tarts, and man,
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I wish I had some Fantastic four pop tarts. I
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just had to let go into the kitchen and pull
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out Graham Crackers, which I was excited about until I
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saw someone else with pop tarts.
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There really were a lot, and our our local Walmart
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recently hmm, only a few days ago. The Yeah, I
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have a feeling if we venture up there we'll be
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able to get the end cap.
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Oh yeah, we can go get some more to ourselves.
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Still open for thirty minutes. Let's go get some pop tarts.
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Knock it out all right, Thanks for listening. Until next time,
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keep some DC on your screen.
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Pop
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You were listening to DC on Screen. Welcome to DC
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on Screen. I'm your host, David C. Robertson. This is
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my co host Jason Goss.
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Hello.
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As promised, we have a news. We have some news,
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a little bit of news episode news round up, anything
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that we haven't talked about, Peacemaker wise on the Peacemaker
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episodes that we're doing, right, Uh, I guess we're gonna
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talk about here starting off to.
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Superman news in between the Peacemakers at this point in
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our feed.
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Yeah, well, I mean we've still got some Peacemaker news
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in here too. Yeah, So I mean you can't leave
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Peacemaker out. Yeah, I'm not gonna talk about some of
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the shit on the review episodes.
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We normally look like a news show that occasionally does reviews.
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But if you look right.
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Now, yeah, if you look right now, this strange time,
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strange moment in history.
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Yeah, I want to all do it, but then I
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don't want to do all the clipping on the in
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the edit and all that crap later.
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So yeah, but first we're going to we have we
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got like one little piece of Superman news and it's
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just the box Office Update three hundred and fifty one million,
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seven hundred and forty eighty six hundred and thirteen domestic,
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two fifty nine seven hundred for international, and it's worldwide
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six hundred and eleven million, four hundred and forty eight thousand,
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six hundred and thirteen. Uh it no, it has not.
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It has not beaten Man of Steel. I do not
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give a fuck.
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Yep.
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Uh, lots of economic factors are different. International has been
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down for numerous movies. Uh this year. I just read
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an article about that, and uh, but I'm not going
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to get into it because I don't feel like it.
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No, we have a lot too. We have gone into
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that several times as well.
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We've gone into it several times, and I feel like
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when we do, the people who don't want to, the
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bad faith people just laugh at you and be like, Okay, body,
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I don't care. It's fair. Yeah, there's no point. Like
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at this point, you either liked the movie and you
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don't give a fuck if it didn't beat if it
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you know, like, it doesn't matter. I laughed because you
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were I saw you on Twitter or Facebook or something. No, no, no,
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I guess it was threads threads right now. Yeah. Uh,
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someone was like someone posted this big thing with a
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picture and everything that's like like Superman will not pass
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Man of Steel or something, and you were like who
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cares or something like that. It was some big ac
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count and you were just like, who fuck cares? Yeah,
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and I've seen you know what I've started seeing a
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lot lately though, was the resurgence of One Movie Must
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Go Which And I'm always.
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Like, why I forgot about that format where you put
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four up? That was a Twitter thing that I did
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not miss. Yeah, I have not missed that in my
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life at all.
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I've been seeing it a lot on threads lately. You
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have to choose one, No, I don't. I don't have
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to choose one. I enjoyed all of these.
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I mean everything's really spread out right now. I can
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choose another app. That's what I can choose.
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M My dick is Rall from enjoying all of these.
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I also get very muty around some of those repost
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games like that that's.
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Oh yeah, no, it's a great like.
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Due are you very aggressive as well? I imagine I'm
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not the only one that's like this. Back in Twitter days,
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it started as the like hit like if you do this,
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and hit repost if you do this, and I mean,
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I know that was a mostly Twitter thing, but I
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still see it around.
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It's an engagement form, is what it is.
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A soliday Yeah, I know, it's a just a I
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just can't it's a borderline instanmute for me.
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Oh yeah, look, so here's here's what's been happening to me,
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because you know, I joined substack David C. Robertson dot
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substack dot com if you want to check out my newsletter.
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But so I don't know anything about substack. I get
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down there and it's like a lot of writers and
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but it's it's a mostly what I'm seeing is like,
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are people saying, uh, I just want to read I
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just want to read real accounts with real stories who
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don't have many followers. And then they get like a
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ton of engagement of people dropping their shit like hey,
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that's me, and I'm.
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Like, anyone here, y'all tick one, yeah.
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Y'all they're not reading anything.
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Yeah.
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They posted that so that they would get a ton
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of engagement, and then people would go, oh, look, they're
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they're real ones. They're they want to read people who
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haven't been discovered yet. I'll follow them. And then they
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sit around and write stupid fucking things like you know.
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Like sincerity baiting maybe dude, dude.
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It's so it's like they'll be like, the best time
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to start your project was tomorrow. Yeah, the second best
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time to start your project is today.
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And I'm like, mute, fucking I am often reminded of
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the Bill Hicks joke about like it takes it hurts
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it was it more more muscles to frown than to smile.
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And then you have take a lot more muscles to
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walk over there and did to shut the fuck up?
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Yeah? Yeah, I just I fucking hate it. I hate it.
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And it's just like why you're substuckers, And it's just like,
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here's three reasons that are really obvious, and the for
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the fourth through seventh reason, you need to sign up
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for my thing, my course. And I'm like, no, yeah,
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I'm not signing up for a course anyway.
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Barely have time for the things that I absolutely have
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to do.
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Almost everything is a scam.
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Yeah, I'll start signing up for courses. What's gonna happen?
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IM?
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I do lingo streak, dear god, what.
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You know? Yeah? Of course? All right, let's talk about peacemaker.
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Did you know that the journalists who got advanced screeners
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only got the first five episodes.
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I knew there was a limit. I thought it was
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like eight.
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Though there's only eight episodes this season, is it? So
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the journalists only got five.
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I thought it was like ten episodes and they got it. Okay,
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so it's eight episodes and they got I guess maybe
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that makes sense now.
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Steve ag was talking to the Hollywood Reporter and he
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was talking about like the theme of his The Grass
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Greener on the other Side, and he says, it's a
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big theme. It's a theme that's tested throughout the entire season,
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and he says the season's willingness to explore the appeal
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of what if scenarios, And according to him, the central
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question of whether the grass is truly greener on the
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other Side is what led DC Studios to withhold the
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final episodes. He says, there's a reason for it. The
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last three episodes are almost like a whole new season.
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They are absolutely insane, and they really cross into that
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actual question even more so, when the hell does that mean?
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I don't know, I'm excited. That's weird.
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That is a weird thing for him to say.
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It is, but I've but it's just enough. Yeah, it
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makes you wonder if something kind of genuinely big is
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gonna happen on like in the season five finale.
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Yeah, dude, I know, I know it's probably not gonna happen,
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but it would be interesting if you know, Peacemaker goes
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and finds Season one piece Maker and like sets him
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up in the universe that he's about to try to
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take over, you know what I mean, Like if that's
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like the final like the door shut on the on
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the DCEU, if like he's just like, blah blah blah,
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here's all this stuff that went down. I can't be
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in this universe. That's not where I'm needed. But then
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for some reason, he at some point finds season one's
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universe and that guy is going through a similar problem,
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or maybe it's even worse. Maybe word things have happened worse.
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Maybe he lost Harcourt and he says, hey, she's right
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over here. You know, that would be interesting.
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I don't know, there's, man, there are a lot of
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doors that could go through for that.
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I've seen some people thinking that, like the jar Head
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that they're talking about with Hardcourt Peacemaker, the jar Head
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that his brother says she's dating now is going to
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be that universus Rick Flagg Junior, Yeah, that would be good.
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I'm like, for purposes of Rick Flagg Senior having his like,
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I don't know, come to Jesus moment, that might work
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really well.
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That is a good point. That is one of the
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only things that could get Chris out of his current
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predicament is to basically give give him the same experiences
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he's had at a dead portal so far. Yeah, like,
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hey man, I know you want to kill me, but
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what if what if you could spend some time with
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your boy instead? Don't kill me and I'll show you
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the door.
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And maybe that Ritten five Junior lost his.
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Dad, Yeah, or just likes his and thinks too dads
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would be cool.
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Yeah, they're both just like extra dad awesome. Yeah, oh, Pat,
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you can just golf scrambles together now.
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Yeah. So I've caught James Gunn kind of being a
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little fishy with the way he's talked about this, because
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he's been like, this is other dimensions. It's not the multiverse, motherfucker.
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This is the multiverse. And then like he did have
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like this one quotehere he says, I thought the simple
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way was really the best, which is just saying this
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world is a little different. We know there's universes, and
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this is the universe in which everything is exactly the
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same as season one except for the Justice League and
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Bat might that's a different universe. That's multiverse, man.
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I mean it doesn't have to be. That ends on
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how much you want to get into inner dimensional versus
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multiverse kind of crap, Like it gets into all kinds
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of bullshit. I don't understand.
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for the sake of storytelling, Well, you know, you're you're
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splitting hairs. It's the same thing.
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You would be. Yeah, and I wouldn't want to, like,
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I wouldn't want to go out on a limb and
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split those hairs for you. As is it? It could
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be that. I just meaning that if he wants to
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really space it out and say no, no, no, those words
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really do mean two things, he could. There is precedent.
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I have to see him do it.
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Yeah, but you know he's just like, it's not like
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the multiverse like we've seen before in in in the movies.
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This is just an extra dimensions. No, it's a multiverse man. Yeah,
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so I love James Gunn, but I feel like he
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has pulled back on saying stuff like that.
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Oh and you remember how much have you heard the
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term parallel universe? Yeah, for parallel universes recently?
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I don't hear that one nearly as much as I
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I mean, there, you know, alternate is is more popular,
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but you know, multiverse is usually the thing people are saying, Well,
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it's just multiverses, it's different reality.
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Yeah, that that word's taking completely aver I really in
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proper parallel universes, you know, we're just like the mustachioed
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version of yourself that is bordered on quicksand kind of material.
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I thought that was going to be way more important.
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But yeah, the multiverse idea took over the landscape.
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still the it's the same thing that.
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That was like FI fear for a long time.
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the original series Star Trek Mirror Mirror, Yeah, they talk
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about it being an alternate dimension. Now, there's another episode
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that came I think before it called the Alternative Factor,
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and they refer to that as an anti matter universe,
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which it was. It was not It was not a
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They say multiverse that. They didn't even say a parallel dimension.
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I don't think they said just an anti matter universe.
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Well, which, even though different, I think that singular is important. Yeah,
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I do, now that I think about it. I I
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think I remember thinking this a while back. I'd almost
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like to track it in a way, but man, I
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used I think at some point the public got used
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to it, there being a lot of them. But back
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in God, in my childhood, it was like what if
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there was one other universe? And it would just always
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be like what if there was one other place or
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another place?
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M hmm.
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You didn't do that plurally a lot. And at some
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point the you know, the whole thing broke open and
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now just everything's yeah, an infinite version of anything is possible,
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and the public knows about that pretty readily.
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is because this is the quote I just said from
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Gunn about the different universe, Like that was a while ago,
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and then it felt like he pulled back from that.
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But when he was exp any what it actually is.
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went through his phase many years ago where he refused
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to be called a sci fi writer and it was
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like a speculative fiction. Fine, fine, Harlan, But you know
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it's the same fucking thing, right, Yeah, Like one just
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has a negative connotation in the media. Right now, we're
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going through a bit where people are like, I don't
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like the multiverse, some stick of the multiverse because everyone
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has to be a contrarian. Well that's their version of
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being the cool kid.
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No, I do think there is a there's a way
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to actually be exhausted by it at the moment. I
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not that everybody's going to use it so right as
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validly as I would think, but man, when people are
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it can get a bit scape goody real quick.
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with anything, you get tired of it.
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It's just too powerful. You can get away with things.
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It's easy to be lazy.
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Yeah, I'm looking at you Arrow.
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I wasn't gonna stare at anyone.
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But oh I'll stare right at Mark and I fuck you. No, No,
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I'm just playing. But look, I you know the thing
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about Arrow, when they brought back you know, Canary, I
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felt like that was righting a wrong they got. They
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killed Laurel Off, yeah, because they didn't know what the
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fuck to do with her. Yeah, and then they were like, yah,
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that was there was a really negative reaction and also
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maybe we should have just tried harder to write this character.
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Uh, they they had better at is about what they
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could have done with her after and yeah, they well
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they cornered themselves too with what they did.
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With that fucking grave in the beginning. They didn't even
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know who was in that grave at the beginning. They've
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said that, They've said they didn't know, but I did,
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which is also kind of a an irresponsible thing to do,
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I think.
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Hmm.
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But yeah, and you know she was way better from
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Earth to anyway, but.
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Oh easily yeah, way a different situation.
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Way way you know, more interesting character, I think.
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But the second draft of what can we do with
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this actress was a way better, way better pool.
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It was at a bad time. Yeah, which is funny
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that in my opinion, you know what, I have to
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give her props in retrospect because yeah, that means in
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spite of her being really poorly written, I feel like
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for several seasons, Yeah, she somehow had so much fan
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pool that and apparently on onset pull it she was
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well well loved unsad as far as her Yeah, but yeah,
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she just went over so damn well that they decided
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let's do this again, but let's do it better and
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had a better idea and it and it did better.
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And at the same time the show was doing badly
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and she stood out. Mm hm she she did rise
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above the entire thing as far as that goes. Good,
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good job, I thought about that way.
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Yeah. Yeah, so see this is you know, look, I'm
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not a perfect person. I like to get my jabs in.
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But hopefully is.
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Assumed you were gonna take a swing at Marble a
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second ago.
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No, no, hopefully it's clear though that like I am
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willing to be like no, no, there's nuance. Don't just
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hate it, there's nu once. I don't really hate Mark Guggenheim. Sure,
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I'll give him shit on the show. I don't know
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the man personally, but if he was sitting right here,
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I'd be like, what the fuck? Man? Yeah, we have
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a laundry list of lies.
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He did really enjoy it seemed lying, just straight up
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lying about what's happening.
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Yeah, which I'll you know, in retrospect, I'll take that
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over over the dude who like ended the flash like
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that Wallace guy who was just like, don't worry, it'll
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end with everyone happy and say like fuck you shut up,
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Like you're taking away every steak. Yeah, man, the next
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couple of episodes is gonna be crazy. Uh, they could
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really add some steaks. Don't worry, no one dies, uh,
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and I think they'll all be happy at the end.
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But man, it's gonna be crazy. No, we just took
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that away.
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I mean his his things would be worse, man, I
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mean it'd be like, yeah, man, the next episode, like
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I don't want to say too much, but like the
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talk comes by and like you know, Candae is gonna
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get she's gonna end up with cancer diagnosis, but like
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that's gonna be a big deal anyway. It's probably gonna die,
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but like you'll learn about it during the episode.
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But don't worry. Everyone will be fine. But it'll be
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all right.
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It'll be it'll be sorted, like we have a happy show.
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What part of this doing on reform, you know, and.
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Everyone's worried about the big mystery and you know, man,
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I get it. My mysteries are great. I mean, it's
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just gonna we're just gonna reveal that this but you
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get the guy nder It was Henry Allen, Wesley Allen
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Chip the whole time. But like, I'm glad everyone's enjoying
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it though. Yeah, well the end of the season, John
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Westley ship.
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Yeah. Anyway over to Batman and this is just like
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sort of conglomerated Batman news. So, first of all, someone
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asked James Gunn if he could see Chris Pratt playing
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Batman one day. He says, as a Batman, no, as
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something Yes, Chris Pratt is one of my best friends.
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We talk all the time. He's a great guy, and
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he would love to do something at DC. I would
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love for him to do something at DC. I believe
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that was before Chris Pratt came out talking about how
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great of a guy RFK Jr. Is. So I'm not
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sure how a gun stands now.
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That may have some effect, We'll say might have some effect.
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See Speaking with Variety, Alan Richson addressed the possibility of
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playing Batman quote. Well, it's not rumor that James Gunn
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is a fan. He said it himself, and am I
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a fan of James Gunn. Absolutely. I don't want to
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mislead people. Words have been exchanged about Batman, but I
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strongly don't think that Batman is in my future. I
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do think there is something in my future with DC,
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and I would like that to remain true.
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That's that's a little hope dashy huh, a little. I'd
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still like him there. I think he'd be a big
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win there. But my head goes immediately to death stroke next.
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Hmm. Really, my head went amnutally to immediately to Shazam.
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And the only reason I think they wouldn't do it
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is because Shazam was recently a failure at the box office.
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That is true.
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But that motherfucker looks like Captain Marvel.
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He does, but he is Honestly, I think I went
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with death stroke there just because of his height. Mm hmm.
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And in my head, death stroke stands like head entrench
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with Bruce every time I feel it.
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Hm hm. That's interesting whatever.
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They do with him. He's just such a frame man.
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You gotta use that size.
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Yeah, I went to you know, I thought about Baine
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as well.
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That would be absolutely sick. Actually, yeah, I hadn't gone Villain,
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had gun Villain with him at all.
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But then if you're going to actually do Bay and
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you need that other that motherfucker from the last season
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a Reacher who was like way taller than Reacher.
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Yeah, he could do it. And he already has a
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weird accent. Yeah, so that works out and true. I
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don't know what said. I don't know what Rixon's range is,
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but I feel like I have seen him go all
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over the place.
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Yeah, I mean we saw him in Titans.
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Yeah, he really did some weird stuff on Titans. I mean,
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I know he can do more than just stoic Reacher
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kind of crap.
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Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I mean,
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the guy's been Aquaman, he's been Hawk.
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I forgot about Aquaman until the other day I saw
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that again. He really has been around.
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I think he was maybe Raphael and one of the
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Michael Bay movies.
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Yeah, why not.
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He's been around for sure. Anyway, a lot of fun.
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I'll welcome him back, though I.
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Didn't have this one on my Uh, I don't know
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what is it. Bengo card Is that what it is.
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That's the same.
419
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Yep, that's the thing. Yeah, I don't know from games look.
420
00:21:04.400 --> 00:21:08.359
But during the Man of Steel panel at Fan Expo Canada,
421
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Tyler Heckland talked about his desire to play Batman. He
422
00:21:13.039 --> 00:21:15.359
was asked if he had seen Pattinson's portrayal of Batman
423
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and whether or not he felt the actors take on
424
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Batman belonged in the newly established DC universe. Let it go,
425
00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:24.319
it's not gonna happen. Stop asking fuckers what if this
426
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is going to happen or not. Heckland was honest, though,
427
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he said selfishly, I'm going to say no because I
428
00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:35.319
still want to play Batman. I didn't, he said, I think,
429
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and I say that Rob did a fantastic, fantastic jobs
430
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and Matt reeves it was great. So I'm happy to
431
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let them keep doing their thing and maybe leave the
432
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door open. I don't want to see Tyler Heckland play
433
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Batman in the DCU. I'm sorry, Tyler, why why? I
434
00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:56.039
just don't want to. I'm done. I'm just good. I
435
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liked him as Superman, but as fun is. Like, like
436
00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:03.799
I said it before, that it would be hilarious if
437
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Henry Cavell wound up playing Batman in this universe.
438
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He is maybe my favorite stunt cast as far as
439
00:22:09.559 --> 00:22:12.720
that goes. Yeah, and he would legitimately be good at it.
440
00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:17.480
Cavell, I think so. I think it would be hilarious,
441
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and if they go that way, I'll go with it.
442
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But I don't want it, you know, Like, it's not
443
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like a thing that I'm just like, Oh, that would
444
00:22:25.960 --> 00:22:28.960
be like the best thing ever. I mean, my troll
445
00:22:29.079 --> 00:22:29.799
self thinks, so.
446
00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:33.200
Yeah, I don't have to have it at all. I
447
00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:35.519
just think if it was if it was cast out
448
00:22:35.519 --> 00:22:36.960
of nowhere and someone threw it at him and there
449
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was no history whatsoever, I'd be like, yeah, man, that
450
00:22:38.839 --> 00:22:40.680
guy looks like he could definitely be a Bruce Wayne.
451
00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:41.440
Yeah.
452
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Yeah, he's gonna be like a forty year old. He's
453
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been here, he's been around for eight or nine years.
454
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Bruce cool cool.
455
00:22:46.279 --> 00:22:49.920
Yeah. I just you know, I don't I see Tyler
456
00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:53.440
Hecklin less than Henry Cavell, but I don't want either
457
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of them there.
458
00:22:54.519 --> 00:22:56.920
Yeah. It's not that I disagree with you, because I
459
00:22:56.960 --> 00:22:59.319
do agree with you. It's it's just that for his
460
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own sake, I kind of want to agree with it.
461
00:23:01.480 --> 00:23:04.759
I mean, look, I will cheer for the guy if
462
00:23:04.799 --> 00:23:07.359
he gets cast in an animated movie doing the voice
463
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of Batman. That could be fun. I don't want to
464
00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:12.960
see his face, it's gonna it would take me out
465
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so much. I had four movies, sorry, four wonderful seasons
466
00:23:19.319 --> 00:23:23.559
or three wonderful seasons and a fourth pretty okay season, and.
467
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It's twenty two episode seasons. I don't think so at thirteen, twenty.
468
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Eight to thirteen something like that.
469
00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:38.400
But you've effectively had like twenty movies with him as
470
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Superman essentially.
471
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Yeah, I just I don't want to. I think both
472
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he and Cavil would take me out of it if
473
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they were playing Batman.
474
00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:51.960
Yeah, I mean I don't disagree with either. Let's get
475
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on him for throwing his head in there.
476
00:23:53.559 --> 00:23:56.400
It's just like how I don't want to see I
477
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don't want to see Cavil actually take over and play Wolverine.
478
00:23:59.759 --> 00:24:01.119
It was funny for that one bit.
479
00:24:01.480 --> 00:24:04.519
It was really funny for that bit. He's not we've
480
00:24:04.519 --> 00:24:07.279
already done h He's getting a little too old to
481
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do a certain kind of Wolverine.
482
00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:11.839
I think he's getting too old to do most of
483
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anything like that, like as far as superheroes are concerned,
484
00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:19.039
Like put him in his Hyperion or somebody on Marvel,
485
00:24:19.079 --> 00:24:19.839
that would be funny.
486
00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:23.559
But yeah, well that's my pois. Yeah, he's got to
487
00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:27.480
do He's not old enough to be doing retired people
488
00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:30.119
yet or anything, but yeah, he's in his middle age
489
00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:33.119
superhero rah. Yeah he's gonna do something.
490
00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:35.640
Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying, yeah, we put him
491
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out of pasture or anything. I'm just you know, kind
492
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of we're not.
493
00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:40.160
We're not Logan's running him yet.
494
00:24:44.119 --> 00:24:49.039
We're not MTVVJ and him twenty five. Get him out
495
00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:54.039
of here, all right. So there's a rumor. There's a rumor,
496
00:24:54.359 --> 00:24:58.279
and no one can substantiate it. But according to.
497
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Something in the story right there on to the next one,
498
00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:01.359
it's fantastic.
499
00:25:01.599 --> 00:25:06.880
Yeah. According to some source, reporters were told at a
500
00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:10.640
premier event not to ask Zoe Kravitz about The Batman
501
00:25:10.680 --> 00:25:12.839
Part two because she's not in it and doesn't know
502
00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:17.519
anything about it. It's okay, I could see that being true.
503
00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:21.880
I can also see that being a complete red herring,
504
00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:24.759
Like they're like, Okay, we don't want anybody to know
505
00:25:24.799 --> 00:25:27.480
about what's happening in The Batman two don't ask Zoe
506
00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:30.000
Kravitz about it. She's not in it, Oh okay, knowing
507
00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:32.279
that that will get out and we won't know that
508
00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:35.559
she's in it. Yeah, And I think it's interesting because
509
00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:38.359
you know, scripts have been coming out to the cast.
510
00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:44.359
Colin Ferrell specifically said he hadn't read it yet, but
511
00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:47.559
it's his understanding. He's not in it very much. He says,
512
00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:50.319
he doesn't have very many scenes. I'm feeling like I'm
513
00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:54.640
getting a whiff. I smell something fishy. M Christi Emiliodi
514
00:25:54.680 --> 00:25:55.839
said I would love to be in it, but I
515
00:25:55.839 --> 00:26:01.240
don't know anything. Christi Emiliotti. You know, we've already heard
516
00:26:01.240 --> 00:26:03.079
that Matt Reeves had to go back to the drawing
517
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board because he didn't expect her to be such a
518
00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:07.000
big presence in Penguin. As far as like.
519
00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:12.720
Fan approval, I don't know how, but okay, I don't.
520
00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:16.039
Yeah, I don't know. But so I'm they've set up
521
00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:18.720
stuff with Penguin, they've set up stuff with Sophia, but
522
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:23.079
we're but we're hearing that they're not really a focus here. Yeah,
523
00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:25.839
and Catwoman's not in it. I don't buy any of this.
524
00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:27.720
I feel like it's all bullshit.
525
00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:32.920
I kind of yeah, yeah, I would. My first instinctly
526
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:35.720
we go to going down some road of speculation about, well,
527
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she wouldn't be in that because after all that, you know,
528
00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:43.400
hull abaloo about that how Penguin went and all that. Yeah,
529
00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:45.440
they're gonna spin off a movie or some shit, it's
530
00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:49.720
not all that. Yeah, I'm I would be. It would
531
00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:51.400
be kind of strange for mat Reeves to have to
532
00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:53.680
redo everything. He's still gonna make a sequel to the
533
00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:57.079
Batman movie mm hmm, ultimately has to make the Batman
534
00:26:57.119 --> 00:26:57.559
Part two.
535
00:26:58.119 --> 00:27:00.839
I mean he could absolutely absolutely make it do where
536
00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:05.640
me she left town? Fine, sure she's not there. Penguin
537
00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:08.799
is in charge now of some of some bullshit. Fine,
538
00:27:09.119 --> 00:27:11.640
he's in it for a few scenes. You know Batman
539
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:15.920
you know, threatens them, throws some stuff around. Whatever. Well,
540
00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:17.000
he was not the main villain.
541
00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:20.000
He was one of two last time, so he's only
542
00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:22.839
him being reduced this time after getting a ton of
543
00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:25.720
stage time the other way around. Yeah, his bit about
544
00:27:25.799 --> 00:27:28.720
him not being in it much, I buy Yeah, But
545
00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:33.319
not the catworman part that she she she should be
546
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:35.839
right into the next story. Just based on where the
547
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:36.599
narrative is going.
548
00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:39.720
You know, I'm not so sure, but she did have
549
00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:42.319
a like Sophia had a letter from Selena. I think
550
00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:45.799
at the end of season two, unless they're building up there,
551
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:47.599
they're saving that for part three.
552
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:51.839
True, although here's another angle, though, it's been so long
553
00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:55.759
that who cares. No one's expecting anything other than a
554
00:27:55.799 --> 00:27:59.720
movie that's not true a Batman in it. So yeah,
555
00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:02.759
I don't even remember who was cast other than a Batman.
556
00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:03.720
Throw it in there.
557
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:06.039
I guess I don't agree with you at all, and
558
00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:09.039
that I think everybody is. Everybody's got theories. Man, the
559
00:28:09.079 --> 00:28:12.039
internet's gone crazy about this shit, Like I get for
560
00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:15.359
a while, everybody like once you know, they're a little
561
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:20.400
piece of whatever they liked in the next pord And
562
00:28:20.759 --> 00:28:24.720
you know, I'm not. I'm saying it is entirely possible
563
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:26.799
that all of that is true and they are not
564
00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:29.559
going to do anything with those characters in this next movie.
565
00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:33.920
There's so much Sandbox in the Batman universe.
566
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:37.519
Oh and was the Joker a scene an official release
567
00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:41.440
or just a deleted scene? Still it was you call.
568
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:45.880
And it's an officially released deleted scene like the week
569
00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:46.920
the movie came out.
570
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:49.799
Yeah, but he was keeping it outside of the movie.
571
00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:53.519
Yeah, because it didn't him showing up to talk to
572
00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:58.559
interrogate U, Riddler and Joker h felt like too much.
573
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:01.559
Oh yeah, yeah, don't disagree at all. And what I
574
00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:03.400
relatively long movie there.
575
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:06.720
I suspect that I suspect that the scene is still
576
00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:07.839
cannon in some way.
577
00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:12.079
I mean, I'm a little wondering. But it short of
578
00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:14.680
that rumor, where would you you know, where would you
579
00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:16.440
want to guess he wanted to land with the villains,
580
00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:18.519
because like you said, I mean he could. He's probably
581
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:20.680
not gonna You can't make a movie about that in
582
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:24.079
the Penguin. That's just that that's not happening. That off
583
00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:25.880
the table. You kind of put Riddler away. You probably
584
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:28.400
did that story. Unless you're making he's probably not doing that.
585
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:31.720
One's probably gotta be there. I don't know. I guess
586
00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:32.960
you could give her take. But like.
587
00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:38.039
What he set up was you know, hush, what he
588
00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:42.000
set up? He set up a quart of owls. Yeah,
589
00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:44.400
he set up Joker. Yeah.
590
00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:45.039
Uh.
591
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:49.920
They have set up a continuation of the Selena storyline
592
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:54.319
with Sophia and vice versa. They've set up Penguin being
593
00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:57.559
in charge. I mean, there's so much they could really do.
594
00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:01.519
We just don't know what set up the Joker. Yeah,
595
00:30:01.559 --> 00:30:03.279
And it seemed like at the end of the Batman
596
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:05.559
they were setting up Joker and Riddler teaming up.
597
00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:08.319
Which sounded like the most fun part of the sequels,
598
00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:12.519
that that was the part I'm most immediately interested in. Yeah,
599
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:15.480
I thought, I really did like that conversation. That's a
600
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:17.640
night here and there there though. Mm hmm.
601
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:21.680
It's a good conversation. There's a whole lot that can
602
00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:26.079
play with though. And I think it's hilarious that people
603
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:33.119
keep making these fan posters about mister Freeze, and I'm like, why, what, what,
604
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.400
where's that coming from? Mister Freese.
605
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.119
I mean, yeah, he can pull out fucking king Tutor,
606
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:43.400
connoment king if he wants to it. Whatever you want
607
00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:45.880
to do, I guess. But you don't have to stick
608
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.119
to any of the names that we just used. But
609
00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:51.160
god knows, you're probably gonna grab a couple of them
610
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:55.759
or something similar or something in the main canon main gallery.
611
00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:58.200
Mm hmm. I don't know.
612
00:30:58.279 --> 00:31:01.279
Man, We're thirty six minutes and you wanna you wanna
613
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:04.799
hit the hit the head, jump back, take a break
614
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:09.480
real quick, all right, We'll be right back with some
615
00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:19.799
d C T right after this. Oh right, we are back,
616
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and it is, of course time for d C T.
617
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:27.039
A.
618
00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:31.119
I'm starting to like it almost now. Yeah, it's fun
619
00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:32.200
turned the corner.
620
00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:39.279
It's never tea though, it's always soda. Yeah, I don't
621
00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:40.319
really drink tea.
622
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:43.880
All right, So James, I missed tea.
623
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:47.599
M hmm. You can get some non caffeinated tea.
624
00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:49.119
Man, you cannot.
625
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:54.839
You cannot good ones. Uh, I don't know about good. See,
626
00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:57.319
I don't think any of them are good. I just
627
00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:00.880
don't like fucking tea. You don't about a hot tea.
628
00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:04.680
To my real knowledge, like any of the ones I've
629
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:09.480
might mostly cared about. Yeah, like proper tea.
630
00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:12.839
Yeah, I kind of like ginger tea when I put
631
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:15.559
honey in it, honey and lemon in it. But that's
632
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:17.880
when I'm sick. I don't really do it otherwise.
633
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:22.119
There are a couple of like Herbels out there, but
634
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:26.079
it never crushed me to try. Yeah, on rare occasion,
635
00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:28.519
I remember and been like, oh, that's mildly refreshing. It's
636
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:29.400
just not tee tea.
637
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:31.880
Yeah, you know what, sweet tea.
638
00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:34.400
And black tea, hot or cold, I'll take you.
639
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:36.839
Yeah, or it would I do. I do like this
640
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:40.599
Splendor tea. I don't think it's caffeine free though anyway.
641
00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:45.240
The milos, yeah, and I don't think so. All right, Uh,
642
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:49.279
James Gunn talking about uh, the next DCU project to
643
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:53.839
go into production on the I think you're overthinking it podcast.
644
00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:55.599
And look when I say the next one to go
645
00:32:55.640 --> 00:33:00.279
into production, that doesn't mean it's gonna be the next
646
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:04.799
because we've still got Clayface, We've got Supergirl. Maybe those
647
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:08.279
are I'm sure those are switched Supergirl, and then Clayface.
648
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:11.839
Lanterns is gonna be in there somewhere. We already know
649
00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:15.759
that a fucking miracle Man is in production, like there's
650
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:22.000
a lot going on currently. So and no, he's not
651
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:25.200
directing and writing them all. I know some people have
652
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:27.799
said to me, like, you know, I think it's bad
653
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:31.079
that he's directing and writing. He's not. I don't know
654
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:33.480
what you're talking about, No idea what you're talking about.
655
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:37.000
He's not writing and directing Supergirl. He did not write
656
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:41.359
and direct Lanterns. He's not miracle Man. He's not even
657
00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:44.079
writing and directing Creature Commando season two. He's got a
658
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:46.039
writer's room and other directors coming in for.
659
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:49.279
That, nor, as it has been suggested on occasion, has
660
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:51.319
he abandoned all of those roles.
661
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:55.240
Right, No, he's overseeing stuff because he's the fucking creative
662
00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:56.960
part of.
663
00:33:56.960 --> 00:34:03.599
The whatever, the head team. Yeah, there's a there's a mixture.
664
00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:07.960
I have heard the extremes per people demand. It was
665
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:10.800
the extremes on both A and though that's it's just weird.
666
00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:16.119
Well yeah, very very recently heard. Like well, I mean
667
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:17.960
I think he's a great filmmaker. I just don't think
668
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:22.199
you can handle like actually being the runner of a universe.
669
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:25.599
That's what Peter Saffron's there for. Yeah, Like he's handling
670
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:33.360
all the business. That's why they're doing it together. Yeah, Yeah,
671
00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:34.039
I don't know.
672
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:36.119
It's a it was a decent design.
673
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:39.000
I don't so far, so good, no.
674
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:42.000
Reason to be hopeless about whether this could necessarily work,
675
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:47.559
Like it's got a chance and the first movie did fine.
676
00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:51.039
So but when I say the next one in production,
677
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:54.360
I mean like it's after all this other stuff that's
678
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:58.320
still in production that's wrapping and in post right now,
679
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:02.719
and of which there is a lot. So anyway, he says,
680
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:04.880
I can say that probably the next movie we're going
681
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:07.400
to be making is the follow up to Superman, which
682
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:09.880
I don't want to get into too much detail on,
683
00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:12.760
but that's probably the next film we're making. I think
684
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:16.360
hopefully we're making the Batman two before that, and then
685
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:19.079
I think is the Superman follow up. And he has
686
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:22.639
clarified that the continuation of the Superman saga is not
687
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:27.239
Superman two, but a movie in which Corn sweats Superman
688
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:31.280
would have a major role. And then recently he did
689
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:35.920
say that he's currently writing the Superman sequel script. I
690
00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:37.880
just think you're getting into the weeds on how hard
691
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:40.199
it is to talk about this thing, honestly, Like, I
692
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:43.599
don't think any of these things are intended to conflict.
693
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:45.800
They are conflicted because he's like, it's not a sequel.
694
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:48.760
Peacemaker is a sequel, Okay, but I'm writing the Superman sequel.
695
00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:51.440
What the fuck you talking about? Yeah? I think that's
696
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:53.960
all that's happening. Is it's just hard to talk about
697
00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:57.639
because this is a big universe where, yeah, some of
698
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.880
these characters, they're still sequel, sort of.
699
00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:04.000
Like the movie sequels. Whatever he's just talking about now.
700
00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:06.760
And he says, then he says, then we have another
701
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:09.480
TV show which nobody knows about which is going next,
702
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:11.599
and then a lot of that other stuff is still
703
00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:15.320
in different stages of development, so we don't know everything.
704
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:20.599
But yes, I think there's a Superman Family that's sort
705
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:24.559
of a sort of I follow up to Superman. Yeah,
706
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:28.599
that is technically a sequel because it happens after fucking Superman,
707
00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:34.159
but it's not like Superman too. Yeah, you think I
708
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:34.760
got that right?
709
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:38.840
I think so. I believe it was in fact on.
710
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:42.920
First Yeah, people are picking apart all this language, yeah,
711
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:45.519
and acting like he's just you know, I just think
712
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:48.800
it's hard to talk about when you're doing podcasts and
713
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:50.360
interviews and.
714
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:52.920
You know, whatever can be.
715
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:57.679
Oh, you kind of put to rest some of the
716
00:36:57.719 --> 00:36:58.639
ideas that we've had.
717
00:36:59.199 --> 00:37:03.159
Actually mm hmm, let's kill him once you got Yeah.
718
00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:06.559
He was talking about his their version of Maxwell Lord,
719
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:10.960
played by Sean Gunn, and he says Max was retconned
720
00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:14.719
as a sort of muscular evildoer after originally being conceived
721
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:19.840
by J. M. Demaiteus as a Dematius what however you
722
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:22.480
say his name as a multi layered character who was
723
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:26.599
morally gray along with skinny Amanda Waller. It wasn't one
724
00:37:26.639 --> 00:37:31.320
of my favorite comic reimaginings. Our Max is inspired by
725
00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:34.559
the original version, So don't be waiting for him to
726
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:38.320
shoot Blue Beetle in the face. I mean, okay, yeah,
727
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:41.000
And we had talked about like, oh, you know, is
728
00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:43.519
Wonder Woman Gonnas to snap his neck? Is you know
729
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:46.679
Maxwell Lord. There's precedent for him to be this really
730
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:50.840
bad guy running checkmate and shit, not this version. Not
731
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:54.840
this version, because the original Maxwell Lord was a guy
732
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:57.360
basically born into money. His dad was one of those
733
00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:00.159
like rare rich guys who actually try to use his
734
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:04.679
powerful good. Then it came out that like Lord Tech
735
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:07.920
or whatever, his version of the company was behind a
736
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:12.000
carcinogenic product the guilt him alive. He wound up killing himself.
737
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:14.719
After that, Max's mom pushed him to like follow in
738
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:21.880
his dad's footsteps carry the torch, and he did basically
739
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:26.559
by backing his own version of the Justice League. And
740
00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:30.039
that's the Justice League that inspired or partially inspired the
741
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:33.400
Justice Gang as they are currently in the DCU, and
742
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:37.400
he acts as their financier and their friend, and he's
743
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:40.639
very morally gray, but he's not a villain as he
744
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:42.400
did become in the comics later.
745
00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:46.199
Right, So this guy's a jerk, but we're not looking
746
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:50.559
for a major hill turn here, right, He's not about
747
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:51.599
to murderfy anybody.
748
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:56.960
Yeah, which is fine. I actually liked that version of
749
00:38:57.039 --> 00:38:59.360
him and Supergirl where he was like, I'm a piece
750
00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:03.840
of shit kinda, but I can turn good. Yeah, all right,
751
00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:05.079
I set you up for a hope speech.
752
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:09.599
Car here you take it away. I don't at all
753
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:11.480
mind the idea that I can kind of relax about
754
00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:13.719
that major storyline not being in the cards.
755
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:16.119
Mm hmm. Yeah.
756
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:18.840
Well, you know one last thing to worry about.
757
00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:24.159
The Sasha character that's in Peacemaker, who's working for Rick
758
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:26.519
flag right now. Do you remember her from the.
759
00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:27.800
Comics, not a bit.
760
00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:33.639
She was Bruce Wayne's bodyguard, like Wayne Tech in the
761
00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:38.800
comics in maybe the early two thousands. There's a whole
762
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:43.079
storyline where Wayne Tech decided, or Wayne Enterprises, not Wayne Tech.
763
00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:46.199
Wayne Enterprises decided that Bruce needed a bodyguard, of course,
764
00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:48.440
not realizing he's Batman, and no the fuck he doesn't,
765
00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:52.199
of course, but they they appointed him. They hired a bodyguard,
766
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:55.119
and it was the woman who was working for Rick Flagg.
767
00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:57.320
It was her character, same name and everything.
768
00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:01.920
H Now that you pointed out, it's weird that Wayne
769
00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:03.559
Enterprises never did that before.
770
00:40:03.880 --> 00:40:07.679
Right, Uh. And I suspected it was funny to me,
771
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:12.760
uh because I remember that storyline and I remembered thinking
772
00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:17.800
in Arrow God, this is familiar because in the comic,
773
00:40:18.519 --> 00:40:22.079
she figures out that Bruce Wayne is Batman because he
774
00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:25.400
keeps like fucking dodging her and getting away from his bodyguard.
775
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:29.400
Oh yeah, and then she like finds the batshit. She's like,
776
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:30.760
oh yeah, he's Batman.
777
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:32.960
Okay, that makes sense. Yeah that tracks.
778
00:40:33.039 --> 00:40:35.880
Yeah, So then she she is this is the Diiggle arc.
779
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:40.320
She basically yeah, she starts like she becomes a costumed
780
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:45.880
adventurer fighting alongside Batman, and then she eventually goes to
781
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:50.079
work for Maxwell Lord and Checkmate. So there was that,
782
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:52.320
and people are like, oh shit, you know, but I
783
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:52.800
guess not.
784
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:57.239
Across her in the Checkmate series from like five six
785
00:40:57.320 --> 00:40:59.239
years ago. She was in it four or five years ago.
786
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:02.199
Maybe maybe I don't know, if she was still.
787
00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:04.360
Banging around, you know Jake made at that point.
788
00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:07.920
Yeah, I don't know, as I wasn't reading comics like
789
00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:11.599
or keeping up with it at the time at that time.
790
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:14.119
We have a little gap where I have a bunch
791
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:15.639
of stuff on my shelf I was telling you about
792
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:16.079
for a second.
793
00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:19.719
Yeah, I've got a huge I've got so much stuff
794
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:23.159
from like the eighties and nineties and early two thousand.
795
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:26.360
It's probably about two thousand and eight or nine. Yeah,
796
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:30.599
And then like we started rooming together, and I feel
797
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:33.920
like you picked up you were just like you picked
798
00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:37.360
up like two years after I disappeared on comics. You
799
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:37.840
picked it all.
800
00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:42.559
Grab a pool list real quick. It's like, damn you
801
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:44.480
So I covered a couple of years for us, and
802
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:48.280
then we both just ran out of steam for that. Yeah,
803
00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:50.239
I ran out of money and space.
804
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:52.239
You do as you do.
805
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:55.360
I genuinely it's there is a point where you can
806
00:41:55.880 --> 00:41:58.480
I think that's probably that's gotta be. Anyone listening can
807
00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:00.920
maybe chime in on this, but there has to be
808
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:04.280
a pretty regular format to that. Right Like, I've got
809
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:07.039
as many bookcases as I can handle or bookshelves as
810
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:09.400
I can handle of comics right now. And I had
811
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:12.000
the choice of either going into full lifestyle mode where
812
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:14.360
that started to make you know, all the boxes and
813
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:16.159
stuff like that and cataloging them and pull them back
814
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:17.840
and all the crap, or I just had to kind
815
00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:20.440
of phase that out in the physical and yeah, I
816
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:21.360
just hit a wall.
817
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:25.119
Yeah in the physics, be a regular Like in the physical,
818
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:29.920
I will still grab trade paperbacks.
819
00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:31.239
When they're on sale, yes, very much.
820
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:35.119
So I can't do the monthly issues anymore. I would
821
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:38.519
love to. I would love to if I could afford it.
822
00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:44.000
Yeah, but I have like a whole whole have to. Yeah,
823
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:47.039
I have to. There's a number of other things in
824
00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:49.119
my life that have to be right before I had
825
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:52.119
the the cake and around money to rep get that
826
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:55.440
part of my lifestyle. Yeah, before comics get back in
827
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:56.239
on a monthly form.
828
00:42:56.679 --> 00:42:59.199
Yeah. And here's here's the other thing, though, is for me,
829
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:03.920
if I upgrade, if I was able to upgrade my
830
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:09.800
living arrangements, basically, if I could get a bigger house, y'all. Uh,
831
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:13.920
and I'm fucking rich, I'd be going back for like
832
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:17.480
eighties and nineties stuff that I missed before I decided
833
00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:20.079
to grab a pull this for new stuff. That's fair
834
00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:22.559
if that makes sense, because like that's the shit I
835
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:26.079
grew up on. Like I you know, I'm I'd rather
836
00:43:26.119 --> 00:43:27.400
go back for old stuff for a minute.
837
00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:30.440
I have a closet. I just don't. I don't feel
838
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:31.800
like putting stuff in closets.
839
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:35.519
Oh yeah, no, no, that's a bummer. I get it though.
840
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:37.800
You know what, like if you that closet you have
841
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:38.960
as dope as fuck.
842
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:40.039
I do you like it?
843
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:44.119
And I have told you, like you should absolutely fucking
844
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:46.840
put your comics in there on display. Like did you
845
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:49.960
ever watch Malcolm in the Middle, Not only in clips,
846
00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:52.079
there's like a bit where he's like the first time
847
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:54.719
he's forced to hang out with his best friend Stevie,
848
00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:57.480
and Stevie's like has breathing problems and is in a
849
00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:00.199
wheelchair and it's kind of like just not like a
850
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:03.079
cool guy, and Malcolm doesn't want to hang out with him,
851
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:08.039
but like they they're forced together. And then like Stevie's like, oh, yeah,
852
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:09.840
I want to read comics, and he's like, oh, you
853
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:12.159
have comics, and he just like opens his closet door
854
00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:15.280
and it's just like a fucking like walk in comic
855
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:17.440
book shop in there. Because he doesn't have friends. All
856
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:21.400
he does is collect comics. So like that's what I imagine,
857
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:23.960
like you you being able to do with that closet
858
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:28.599
in your office, Like, dude, clear up those shelves.
859
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:30.639
Brother could. But then that like goes in the closet.
860
00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:33.800
Oh man, there's stuff I need to be in the closet.
861
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:35.840
Throw it in the garage.
862
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:39.840
That's then there's stuff that has to be in the garage.
863
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:44.239
But you've got so much space in the garage. Get
864
00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:47.079
one of those Walmart bins, one of those things that
865
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:51.119
like those like you know, rubber Maid drawers or something.
866
00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:53.079
Put whatever you got in the closet, and then one
867
00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:55.159
of those rubber made shelves and you got like a
868
00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:57.519
whole walk in closet to devote to, like putting your
869
00:44:57.559 --> 00:44:59.960
comics on display. It'd be dope as fuck. Ud just
870
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:05.079
like walking in there and like seeing the majesty. I'm
871
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:06.079
telling you, man, I'm.
872
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:07.719
Just gonna move stuff. I'm gonna get a bunch of
873
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:09.800
tubs and hang them from the rafters and make like
874
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:12.119
a drop ceiling out of just a series of tubs.
875
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:15.159
Yeah, dude, you can do that. I've seen stuff like that.
876
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:18.400
It's so dope. You need me in your life, man.
877
00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:23.159
Typerwary e walk fucking I don't know what to.
878
00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:25.400
Do with my house, but I can go over and
879
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:26.559
tell people what to do with theirs.
880
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:35.079
I'm like, girl, what I mean there for just a
881
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:35.800
few minutes.
882
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:48.119
I'll be watching Property Brothers Hometown Takeover. Gun was talking
883
00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:52.760
to Damage. Gun was having a conversation with Rain Wilson
884
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:57.519
for Interview magazine, and uh Gun explained that there are
885
00:45:57.519 --> 00:46:00.000
three factions in the DCU, the meta humans, the world
886
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:03.840
world governments, and corporations. There's Luther Corp. There's Lord Tech,
887
00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:07.239
and Stag Industries and Wayne Enterprises, which are the four
888
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:10.119
big companies that are vying for another type of domination.
889
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:13.760
And they aren't evil corporations really, they're just fucking a
890
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:18.840
moral corporations. These corporations are dependent on the morality of
891
00:46:18.840 --> 00:46:22.519
the figurehead, which makes sense in a storytelling sense, like,
892
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:24.559
of course Luther Corp's gonna be evil as fuck because
893
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:28.440
Luthor is just fucking that guy, right right right. I mean,
894
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:32.039
Stag is an asshole morally ambiguous.
895
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:36.360
They don't say anything about Stagging here, but we've seen
896
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:39.360
some of his outcomes already, and things aren't perfect over
897
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:39.880
its Stag.
898
00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:44.239
Things aren't perfect. He's an asshole, but you know he
899
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:47.800
comes around a little. He's like a foil more than anything. Yea.
900
00:46:48.320 --> 00:46:50.360
In the Metamorphose stuff, I feel.
901
00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:53.360
Like they don't seem to like old father in law
902
00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:54.400
Papy in law.
903
00:46:54.840 --> 00:46:59.000
Yeah, Stag. I'm excited to see where all those things go.
904
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:04.840
Me too. Oh Wayne Enterprises, Lord Tech and Luther Court.
905
00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:06.599
All right, so just Lord, Okay.
906
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:10.320
Okay, Lord Luther Wayne. Yeah, and I'm Overrea going like,
907
00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:13.599
where the fuck is Ted? Where's Court Industries? Is it gone?
908
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:15.480
I mean yeah, I guess.
909
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:19.320
So he was talking about Blue Beetle though, and uh
910
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:22.760
to talk about Blue Beetle, he was talking about Peacemaker.
911
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:24.599
He was like peace Maker was always in a weird place.
912
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:27.880
People say he's a part of the DCU, DCEU, and
913
00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:30.440
he wasn't really. He was a part of this in
914
00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:33.800
between universe of dc when there was nobody really making
915
00:47:33.840 --> 00:47:36.559
sure everything was connected, and at a time when they
916
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.239
were going to rewrite everything with a flash.
917
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:40.639
He was a fever dream basically.
918
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:43.360
Yeah. Yeah, we were kind of able to do whatever
919
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:46.639
we wanted. We had that brash ending, which I loved.
920
00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:49.119
It was one of my favorite things in the whole season,
921
00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:53.039
but it just didn't fit into the DCU and Peacemaker
922
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:56.639
almost there's hardly anything you need to change for him
923
00:47:56.679 --> 00:48:00.000
to slide very easily into the DCU. Same with Bluebear.
924
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:03.360
They just kind of fit in very nicely. But maybe
925
00:48:03.360 --> 00:48:05.960
we have to retcon a couple of things, but this
926
00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:09.280
is the big one. And then uh. In a interview
927
00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:15.199
with IMDb, someone mentioned that they were really they wanted
928
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:18.840
to see a blue Beetle in future seasons, maybe a peacemaker.
929
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:20.960
But and I don't know if that's true or not,
930
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:23.079
if that was what, because I can only find like
931
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:26.800
the little clip where he's not saying what he's referencing
932
00:48:26.840 --> 00:48:30.920
when he's his future seasons. But but Gun did say,
933
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:34.320
you know, I won't say you're not in luck about
934
00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:38.079
Blue Beetle coming. So and we know it's we know
935
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:40.039
it's gonna be Solo. We know it's gonna be that guy,
936
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:45.400
yeah or Jolo, however you say his name. Yeah, I'm
937
00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:47.639
excited about that. I liked Blue Beetle. I didn't, you know.
938
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:51.960
I very recently had some heard some someone was talking
939
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:53.599
to me about I was a shitty movie, and I
940
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:58.760
was like, how it was not mold breaking, but it
941
00:48:58.800 --> 00:48:59.599
was a good movie.
942
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:02.199
I mean, I think it was pretty formulaic, but it's
943
00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:06.800
a it's a genre film, like I enjoyed. I enjoyed it.
944
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:09.599
I don't remember. I don't think that's one that I've
945
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:12.599
rewatched again, so I could probably give that rewatch pretty
946
00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:13.880
happily at some point.
947
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:20.000
Yeah. Yeah. Someone asked on Threads, mister Gunn, if an
948
00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:22.719
actor for some reason can no longer play a character
949
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:25.559
within the DCU, is there a possibility of changing the actor,
950
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:28.599
or will the character be discarded? James Gunn says is,
951
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:31.480
if an actor cannot continue a role, I will change
952
00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:34.880
the actor, no problem. No King's in this DC universe.
953
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:38.320
Mm hmm. I don't think I was gonna endo this
954
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:39.760
question with can I do it?
955
00:49:41.079 --> 00:49:43.800
Yeah, I'm just happy to be like, oh, yeah, fine,
956
00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:47.320
recast him. Don't just that does actually pissed me off
957
00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:50.559
the way Marvel handled that with Majors, where it was
958
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:53.960
just like, oh, we're just or Kang like, don't just
959
00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:57.800
scrub the entire storyline. That was a cool ass storyline
960
00:49:57.800 --> 00:49:58.800
you were building with Kang.
961
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:03.360
Maybe I think he got cold feet about the storyline
962
00:50:03.360 --> 00:50:04.440
too though he.
963
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:06.119
Just thought that there was no way to recast it
964
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:08.360
because Majors was doing such a good job, or what
965
00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:08.840
do you think.
966
00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:10.760
I don't know. For some reason, I got the vibe
967
00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:13.400
when I was reading the stories that maybe it was
968
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:15.519
something he said. I don't remember exactly where this little
969
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:17.800
intuition came from. But for some reason I got the
970
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:22.000
vibe that he didn't feel that great about it, like
971
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:26.280
he it was an opportunity to redo that that he
972
00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:29.840
was like second guessing it anyway. Hmmm, that he just thought,
973
00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:31.840
you know, I can do I maybe I ran across
974
00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:34.880
something where he's where he just encouragingly said, you know what,
975
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:39.079
I really kind of wished i'd done the doomsday thing anyway. Okay, Yeah,
976
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:41.599
which ry be true, it is he didn't take advantage
977
00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:42.320
of it at least.
978
00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:44.679
A bought we have to get out of this multimarse quick.
979
00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:48.960
Yeah. To be fair, though, there's a lot of good
980
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:52.280
hype for doomsday right now, so I don't know. Maybe
981
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:53.280
maybe it did work out.
982
00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:56.840
Seeing a lot of rumors that uh, Robert Downe Jr.
983
00:50:56.960 --> 00:50:59.840
Is feuding with Ryan Reynolds or something. But I don't
984
00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:04.679
know why I'm seeing all that. I don't know. I
985
00:51:04.679 --> 00:51:05.519
don't read it.
986
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:09.639
It's just headlines like one of those AI slopped like
987
00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:12.239
RDJ walked out on the view.
988
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:15.000
I saw a headline that was like Robert Downey Jr.
989
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:18.079
Called Ryan Reynolds's wife was slot. I'm just like, what
990
00:51:18.119 --> 00:51:18.639
the fuck?
991
00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:21.800
That's gonna be a whole genre in the AI and
992
00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:25.639
AI crap, What the fuck is that? One trend?
993
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:25.840
Though?
994
00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:29.079
About like people walking out on the View in particular,
995
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:32.400
it'll be the View or another like daytime show so
996
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:34.960
and so storms out of blah blah blah and and
997
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:36.079
it's just an a thumb.
998
00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:38.920
Now. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know that one.
999
00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:41.920
I don't know why particular headline types are repeated.
1000
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:45.920
Yeah that's odd, but yeah, no, all of all of
1001
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:51.079
those uh rdj Ryan Reynolds things are like AI pictures
1002
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:54.960
of them yelling at each other, Yeah, on a beach
1003
00:51:55.079 --> 00:52:00.280
or something like. It's weird ah speaking to people.
1004
00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:03.679
To a magazine about Okay, gotcha.
1005
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:09.079
James Gunn says of Waller, we're working on it, so
1006
00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:12.440
we'll see what happens. Some things have moved faster than others.
1007
00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:15.639
Waller's has not been the fastest. But I can't wait
1008
00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:18.519
to see Viola put on their Waller pants again.
1009
00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:20.400
Okay, so you still got in mind?
1010
00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:22.559
Yeah, it's still in development.
1011
00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:26.800
He's got her bench in his universe right now until
1012
00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:28.119
he needs her basically.
1013
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:31.800
Mm hmmm, wh's just fun. I don't need to see
1014
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:32.960
him Manda Waller right now.
1015
00:52:33.320 --> 00:52:36.440
No, but it was smart to just sort of literally
1016
00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:38.440
put it in there in a timeless option, like, yeah,
1017
00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:39.679
you pull it out when you're ready.
1018
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:40.480
Mm hmm.
1019
00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:44.519
I mean she was just in Creature Commandos to be fair.
1020
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:46.880
Yeah, I know, but he's already got so many things
1021
00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:48.239
built in it'll be well m.
1022
00:52:48.519 --> 00:52:51.039
M all right. So we're gonna end this with a
1023
00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:53.840
little bit of feedback from Curing Ridgeway and I know
1024
00:52:53.880 --> 00:52:56.000
we have some other feedback, but we'll get to it
1025
00:52:56.920 --> 00:52:59.440
on another day because we're a little strapped for time
1026
00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:02.719
this week. I'm so sorry to those who wrote in,
1027
00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:06.679
but we will get to you. Kieran Ridgeway says, Hey,
1028
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:09.559
David and Jason, great episode, guys, just currently listening through
1029
00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:13.679
the Superman Through the Ages episode. Really enjoyed the description
1030
00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:15.960
of the times of each Superman and it was interesting
1031
00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:18.360
to imagine what it would have been like in that
1032
00:53:18.519 --> 00:53:22.920
time watching Superman. Absolutely stoked to be able to see
1033
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:27.000
the DCUs rise and currently thriving and excited to see
1034
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:29.599
what is to come and that all people have come
1035
00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:34.880
from have some form of DC media. Sorry, it was
1036
00:53:34.920 --> 00:53:37.760
so cool to see Superman merch in the shops, Like yes,
1037
00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:41.239
the kids themselves are now truly discovering him, and it'll
1038
00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:43.760
be great to see how this impacts Superman in the future.
1039
00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:49.079
Great stuff overall. Two questions. If you were to choose
1040
00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:52.800
a villain to be in each of the Trinity's next
1041
00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:57.239
solo adventure, who would you choose? Try to stay away
1042
00:53:57.239 --> 00:53:59.360
from villains used in previous films.
1043
00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:02.599
My first thing was going to be Cheated to repair that.
1044
00:54:02.960 --> 00:54:05.000
Well, I mean, I you know when I say you
1045
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:09.400
can choose that because we didn't really see Cheetah. We
1046
00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:11.880
saw Christian Wigg being Christian Wig.
1047
00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:14.400
Oh that's fair.
1048
00:54:14.599 --> 00:54:17.519
Or Christian Wig playing the Riddler, or Christian Wig playing
1049
00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:19.400
fucking the Mandarin.
1050
00:54:20.440 --> 00:54:23.840
True. True. I mean an easy Batman would be hush.
1051
00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:25.880
I feel like that'd be It's almost hard to find
1052
00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:28.039
one that hasn't been done relatively recently out of the
1053
00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:28.719
main gallery.
1054
00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:33.519
I still want this Cornelia Stark serial killer cannibal storyline
1055
00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:34.440
for Batman.
1056
00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:38.000
Yeah, okay, yeah.
1057
00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:41.639
Like that's some you know, dude cook a cooking a
1058
00:54:41.679 --> 00:54:44.599
dead body and fucking chowing down and throwing the rest
1059
00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:48.159
into the dumpster back. You know, fuck is fucked up.
1060
00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:51.840
I'd still love to see a proper victors as movie,
1061
00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:53.360
And I know we saw him in Birds of Prey,
1062
00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:57.920
but every time we've seen victors As, I kind of go, yeah, kinda,
1063
00:54:58.159 --> 00:54:58.559
not really.
1064
00:54:59.239 --> 00:55:01.800
Yeah, it's always just aspects of him. They just take
1065
00:55:01.800 --> 00:55:04.480
the fact that he's a psychopath and do whatever they
1066
00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:04.960
want with it.
1067
00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:07.440
Yeah, I mean not. I mean, he didn't even do
1068
00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:09.760
that with fucking Batman begins. He was just like a
1069
00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:13.519
name in a court trial. But yeah, I mean the
1070
00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:17.239
closest we got was Anthony Kerrigan and Gotham. But I
1071
00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:20.599
would love to see, you know, victors As as an
1072
00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:25.400
actual main villain, scars and all scars and all doing
1073
00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:28.800
the whole bit. Yeah.
1074
00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:31.880
I have always and will continue to want a gentleman
1075
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:41.199
ghost villain with Batman. Sounds stupid, but my heart wants it.
1076
00:55:41.239 --> 00:55:42.960
I'm sorry he dies.
1077
00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:45.239
Well, I mean you sort of had that in the
1078
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:48.360
Batman the Cape Crusaders show. You know, it wasn't gentleman ghosts.
1079
00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:49.840
It was whatever the other thing was.
1080
00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:50.800
It was a little close.
1081
00:55:51.159 --> 00:55:53.599
Yeah, it was kind of close ish, and we had
1082
00:55:55.480 --> 00:55:58.679
a gentleman ghost popping up in Batman The Brave and
1083
00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:02.239
the Bowl. But yeah, I get it. You want something
1084
00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:05.000
a little sillier, I guess I don't know.
1085
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:08.280
Yeah, I think Giganta would be a lot of fun
1086
00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:12.000
in uh in the DC Studios form or tone.
1087
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:14.800
What do you mean, like for wonder Woman? Yeah, okay,
1088
00:56:14.840 --> 00:56:16.199
I can see that. I can see that.
1089
00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:18.960
I think big growy, big growy villain for wonder Woman.
1090
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:21.599
That would have anyone Gun would hire, would have one
1091
00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:21.800
with that.
1092
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:22.599
Yeah.
1093
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:24.599
Who hasn't Superman touched the recently too?
1094
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:25.599
Brainiac?
1095
00:56:26.079 --> 00:56:26.519
Not true?
1096
00:56:26.760 --> 00:56:31.239
I mean, but everyone talks about Brainiac. Everybody wants Brainiac.
1097
00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:32.280
It is the obvious.
1098
00:56:33.039 --> 00:56:35.360
It is the real, big obvious thing.
1099
00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:38.599
I don't want Doomsday, that's the one I don't want.
1100
00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:40.480
Yeah, for sure, you know.
1101
00:56:41.400 --> 00:56:42.679
Or Bizaro for a second.
1102
00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:46.519
It's interesting that in Peacemaker they had they had the
1103
00:56:47.960 --> 00:56:50.960
newspaper clipping or whatever that said that the top Trio
1104
00:56:51.079 --> 00:56:55.599
defeated Ultra Humanite because he started out as a Superman villain.
1105
00:56:55.960 --> 00:56:57.840
He did before he was an ape.
1106
00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:00.239
Yeah, back in the eight monkey era.
1107
00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:02.800
Yeah, before he was an ape. He was. He was
1108
00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:05.679
a Superman villain. He was he was the anti Superman,
1109
00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:10.320
he was the and he was all brain superman ultra human.
1110
00:57:11.239 --> 00:57:15.559
Yeah, so it wasn't human. Was that you telling me
1111
00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:18.760
about this recently or just run across it where there
1112
00:57:18.800 --> 00:57:21.119
was some small period of comics where you just every
1113
00:57:21.119 --> 00:57:22.840
time he picked one up and had a primate on it.
1114
00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:25.639
Uh. I think we've talked about that on the show
1115
00:57:26.039 --> 00:57:31.239
and uh. But yeah, I know that they it didn't
1116
00:57:31.239 --> 00:57:33.239
even test well. Every time they put a fucking gorilla
1117
00:57:33.320 --> 00:57:36.440
on the on the cover of a comic, it sold
1118
00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:40.039
out like it was doing crazy numbers, and then the
1119
00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:45.440
DC off fighting to get gorillas on the on in
1120
00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:48.039
their books. It was crazy. That's why DC has so
1121
00:57:48.079 --> 00:57:50.519
many fucking apes.
1122
00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:52.239
Ton apes.
1123
00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:55.559
There are a ton of gorilla characters absolutely m hm.
1124
00:57:57.119 --> 00:57:59.840
So yeah, I don't know that I answered the question, and.
1125
00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:03.519
Well, I think about the next one about how do
1126
00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:05.480
we do next? I think we snuck that in there somewhere.
1127
00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:08.679
Yeah. I don't know that I even touched Wonder Woman.
1128
00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:17.400
I wouldn't mind touch on one woman. Yeah, you know,
1129
00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:21.320
I don't. I've never been too interested in most of
1130
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:25.480
Wonder Woman's robes gallery. I think Sirs is probably my
1131
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:27.280
favorite one, so I'd like to see her, which I
1132
00:58:27.320 --> 00:58:30.920
think we just did Creature Commandos, so she's the one
1133
00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:34.280
that is interested in me the most, probably had the
1134
00:58:34.280 --> 00:58:34.960
most fun.
1135
00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:36.559
With I think I would like to see her take
1136
00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:39.360
on magic. Well, I say that I would have. There's
1137
00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:41.480
times when I would have not enjoyed it as much,
1138
00:58:41.519 --> 00:58:43.199
but I think I would really like this one.
1139
00:58:43.559 --> 00:58:49.119
Yeah. Yeah, man see Batman, So I said, Superman, Brainiac
1140
00:58:49.639 --> 00:58:53.199
probably or Ultra Human eight, Wonder Woman Circe.
1141
00:58:55.400 --> 00:58:58.400
Yah, yeah, thank you pretty hard?
1142
00:58:58.760 --> 00:59:00.360
Yeah all right?
1143
00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:04.440
Or so if not, there are other magical villains that
1144
00:59:04.480 --> 00:59:07.840
she's faced at this point that she could. Yeah, she's
1145
00:59:08.519 --> 00:59:11.119
pretty heavy into the Justice League Dark version of things.
1146
00:59:11.159 --> 00:59:13.559
Now, if dude, if they did like a if they
1147
00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:18.719
really like got inventive with Felix Faust, I might be down.
1148
00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:23.440
He's just making you know, fast, But yeah, in my head,
1149
00:59:23.480 --> 00:59:27.679
he's like a lening Tunes character with like a stereotype history.
1150
00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:32.639
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know anyway, Let's see
1151
00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:35.559
what else does he say? Oh, what obscure or lesser
1152
00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:38.639
known character would you like to see on film or
1153
00:59:38.679 --> 00:59:41.239
a TV show? I would like to see the Cowboy
1154
00:59:41.599 --> 00:59:46.880
Vigilante that dream date Faust? Yeah, yeah, we have seen
1155
00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:50.400
in Constantine. Actually I think we saw Faust constantly.
1156
00:59:50.639 --> 00:59:52.920
I think he had Ah, I think we did, didn't
1157
00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:53.639
we Constantine?
1158
00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:57.199
Yeah? We did, didn't we? Yeah? I love I love
1159
00:59:57.239 --> 00:59:59.519
the idea of Cowboy Vigilanti. I'm just sorry Nathan Filling
1160
00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:01.159
is an Availa able to play him like he did
1161
01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:06.360
in Justice League Unlimited. Uh yeah, I'd like to see
1162
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:09.079
Cowboy Vigilani. It would be fun. That would be dude,
1163
01:00:09.079 --> 01:00:12.679
that would be so fucking great if we found out
1164
01:00:12.719 --> 01:00:15.199
that Adrian's if they just did a thing where it
1165
01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:17.679
turned out Adrian's whole family line where it was crazy
1166
01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:20.960
as fuck and there was he got this character Vigilani
1167
01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:24.079
from like his great great great grandfather or whatever, and
1168
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:28.480
there's like a single fucking blurry old Sepiotone picture of
1169
01:00:28.559 --> 01:00:32.679
him as like the Cowboy Vigilani. I would love that shit.
1170
01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:33.920
That would be a lot of fun.
1171
01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:35.880
They could do whatever they want to bring him into
1172
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:42.280
the present day. It could, it would work. So yeah,
1173
01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:44.280
Kidz says, thanks for reading the email and sorry it
1174
01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:47.239
was length they did. You're good. Uh just wanted to
1175
01:00:47.239 --> 01:00:51.719
show my appreciation. So uh, I feel like I say
1176
01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:54.199
this a lot. I would love to see ambush bug.
1177
01:00:54.280 --> 01:01:02.039
I would love to see uh our guyle is sentient
1178
01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:03.920
sock arch Nemesis.
1179
01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:08.960
Yeah, anything you know, extra dimensional like that would be
1180
01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:11.079
a lot of fun, just to have a one of
1181
01:01:11.079 --> 01:01:11.880
those kinds of wars.
1182
01:01:11.960 --> 01:01:15.599
Yeah, uh yeah. And you know, as far as obscure characters,
1183
01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:17.599
I feel like I'm gonna get that because you know,
1184
01:01:18.840 --> 01:01:22.239
I would probably also pick like Miracle Man and Big Barta.
1185
01:01:23.320 --> 01:01:24.840
There are a fair amount of people that I would
1186
01:01:24.840 --> 01:01:29.239
have picked as obscure characters that are no longer that obscure.
1187
01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:32.719
Yeah, they're not as obscure anymore.
1188
01:01:33.400 --> 01:01:36.199
Or Animal Man might be one I'm throw out there.
1189
01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:38.679
He's not obscure, Buddy Sex, but he's he's he hasn't
1190
01:01:38.679 --> 01:01:39.280
been on screen.
1191
01:01:39.719 --> 01:01:42.480
I think he's pretty obscure. Really, I really, I really do.
1192
01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:45.000
I think I think all of these characters are pretty
1193
01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:48.320
fucking obscure. And we are just we are who we are,
1194
01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:51.119
we where we are deep in the weeds, my friend,
1195
01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:55.079
we are in we are riding on the back of
1196
01:01:55.119 --> 01:01:58.559
that fucking horse from the Never Ending Story who's into Quicksand.
1197
01:01:58.719 --> 01:02:07.519
That's you're not talking to a person who's sitting within
1198
01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:10.280
several feet of not one but two editions of the
1199
01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:17.599
DC Comics Encyclopedia, Which which is fun? I mean, just
1200
01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:19.760
to flip through that thing and answer the question of
1201
01:02:19.800 --> 01:02:22.320
which obscure characters is a lot of fun, which we
1202
01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:23.360
do on Patreon sometimes.
1203
01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:26.639
Basically, I mean, I'm, you know, just over my shoulder,
1204
01:02:26.679 --> 01:02:30.760
I've got the Batmo beast. I mean that ain't right,
1205
01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:37.039
that's true. Oh, Adam Strange.
1206
01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:41.559
Again, you know I always want to Strange. Yeah, in
1207
01:02:41.599 --> 01:02:43.880
the sense that everything's obscure. He is obscure, but in
1208
01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:45.960
the sense that nothing is I guess then, like he
1209
01:02:46.159 --> 01:02:49.559
has been on screen recently Krypton and had a major
1210
01:02:49.599 --> 01:02:51.119
story recently with Tom King.
1211
01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:55.719
Yeah, he's obscure really anymore? D like Tom King and
1212
01:02:55.760 --> 01:02:58.079
James Gunn And the nicest way possible is this is
1213
01:02:58.119 --> 01:03:01.599
not an insult obsecurity. They're totally sucking each other's dicks,
1214
01:03:02.400 --> 01:03:06.000
and and they should.
1215
01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:09.840
But it is the best possible porn. We're all benefiting
1216
01:03:09.840 --> 01:03:10.159
from it.
1217
01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:13.719
Yeah, this is this is a highly productive batt of
1218
01:03:13.719 --> 01:03:15.719
love making. Yes, and.
1219
01:03:17.159 --> 01:03:19.960
Just I mean that's what I'm holding gatorade, ready for
1220
01:03:20.519 --> 01:03:21.079
ready to help?
1221
01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:23.559
It's yeah, I kind to eat your electrolytes.
1222
01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:23.880
Yep.
1223
01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:28.599
So like, yeah, I love old Adam Strange. I love
1224
01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:31.559
the new spin on Adam Strange. I give it to me,
1225
01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:34.480
let me see it. I want to see.
1226
01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:37.679
I really would have picked mister Miracle as my obscure
1227
01:03:37.719 --> 01:03:41.280
one at some point. God, you know, I hadn't been
1228
01:03:41.280 --> 01:03:44.719
around for a while. I still Scarecrow's borderline dipping into security.
1229
01:03:44.760 --> 01:03:46.039
I can almost grab him again now.
1230
01:03:46.360 --> 01:03:49.400
But you know, even even in the in an Age
1231
01:03:49.639 --> 01:03:51.760
the Gun talks about where like everybody's sort of doing
1232
01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:54.320
something and no one's like overseeing whether or not it's
1233
01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:58.000
connected or not, we still got a lot of stuff
1234
01:03:58.039 --> 01:04:01.679
like Hawk and Dove would be easily on my list, true, true,
1235
01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:04.239
And we just got that in Titans, or a version
1236
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:05.800
of that in Titans.
1237
01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:09.199
One of my recent favorites. I'm actually glad I made
1238
01:04:09.199 --> 01:04:13.719
that sound that sounded it was fitting. Detective Chimp. Oh yeah,
1239
01:04:14.119 --> 01:04:18.039
abs the recent versions where he's Injustice League Dark and Man,
1240
01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:20.280
I want the Magical Detective Detective Chimp.
1241
01:04:20.320 --> 01:04:26.239
Hell yeah, hell yeah, Ragman, Oh Gott, that is that
1242
01:04:26.320 --> 01:04:39.119
is Shadow Pack Shadow Pack Shadow Yeah, oh yeah, Ragman
1243
01:04:39.199 --> 01:04:43.119
and Chimp and Detective Chimp and Shade.
1244
01:04:43.360 --> 01:04:44.840
I think the theme is that me and you're really
1245
01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:48.239
itching for a magic DC movie, a proper magic DC movie.
1246
01:04:48.599 --> 01:04:54.159
I think we are. It's ravating too, because like James
1247
01:04:54.159 --> 01:04:56.360
Gunn is like, well, gir moos never reached out to
1248
01:04:56.360 --> 01:04:58.039
me and said that to me, and we're friends. I'm like,
1249
01:04:58.119 --> 01:04:59.719
fucking call him and be like, do you want to
1250
01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:02.559
do just just like dark, they just know, just do it.
1251
01:05:04.320 --> 01:05:14.199
I am call him, Yeah, call the man. Yeah.
1252
01:05:14.360 --> 01:05:18.480
As a as a off heard phrase or imperative in
1253
01:05:19.280 --> 01:05:21.679
my house growing up, my dad would let the house
1254
01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:24.039
like code of pot and I don't know what to
1255
01:05:24.039 --> 01:05:25.320
do about it. And my mom would be like, call
1256
01:05:25.400 --> 01:05:28.280
the man, Call the man.
1257
01:05:28.360 --> 01:05:31.159
Which man, whichever one's the right man for this, call him,
1258
01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:33.000
call him right the hell Now.
1259
01:05:33.519 --> 01:05:35.920
I'm not calling him. I can fix it. No, you
1260
01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:38.320
can't or you won't. I don't care which one it is,
1261
01:05:38.360 --> 01:05:39.199
but just call the man.
1262
01:05:39.679 --> 01:05:42.559
One of those two will be right. Combination, I don't know,
1263
01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:43.760
call the fucking dude.
1264
01:05:44.199 --> 01:05:46.400
I mean, it became an It was a catchphrase for her.
1265
01:05:46.480 --> 01:05:48.880
She thought it was funny at some point, like as
1266
01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:51.480
frustrating as it was funny because he no matter what
1267
01:05:51.519 --> 01:05:54.400
it was, it was like, I don't know, my stomach
1268
01:05:54.440 --> 01:05:56.000
hurts after that surgery. I don't think it's right.
1269
01:05:56.039 --> 01:06:01.960
Call the man, you check up, Call the many.
1270
01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:09.400
Can you bring me a towel? Call the man? Oh
1271
01:06:09.519 --> 01:06:12.360
power girl, Oh power girl's.
1272
01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:15.400
Going to yeah, power girl? Yeah? And I won't be
1273
01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:17.480
upset if they if they woke a fire and don't
1274
01:06:17.480 --> 01:06:20.440
show her titties, it's okay. I just like the character
1275
01:06:22.920 --> 01:06:28.000
since apparently wearing clothes is now woke as well that one.
1276
01:06:28.679 --> 01:06:31.679
Granted, it would be hard not to, it'd be hard
1277
01:06:31.719 --> 01:06:35.280
not to do her costume to some extent, but like, man,
1278
01:06:35.400 --> 01:06:37.360
if you toned it down just a couple of notches, no,
1279
01:06:37.559 --> 01:06:40.800
no one blame you, No one blame you, just saying, yeah,
1280
01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:43.760
that's the she's fourteen out of ten right now in
1281
01:06:43.800 --> 01:06:45.639
the toned up stage. If you just put it down
1282
01:06:45.639 --> 01:06:46.239
to eleven or.
1283
01:06:46.199 --> 01:06:50.039
Twelve, That's the funny thing is like that, I'm I'm
1284
01:06:50.079 --> 01:06:55.000
not certain you know, I have a grasp on because
1285
01:06:55.000 --> 01:07:00.519
it's like, you know right now. I came up in
1286
01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:04.079
the time where it was like, no, we're not we're
1287
01:07:04.119 --> 01:07:07.559
not supposed to, you know, to be progressive about all this.
1288
01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:11.360
You're not supposed to like shame a woman for wearing
1289
01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:14.400
what she wants to wear. But then somewhere it started
1290
01:07:14.440 --> 01:07:17.960
happening that it was like how dare you let her
1291
01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:20.360
wear that? And I'm like, this is the character. This
1292
01:07:20.400 --> 01:07:22.280
has always been the character. Yeah, but it was because
1293
01:07:22.320 --> 01:07:25.639
of evil men. Oh, okay, But then like other like
1294
01:07:25.840 --> 01:07:28.079
people like Amanda Connor came sort of come out with
1295
01:07:28.079 --> 01:07:30.199
like Harley Quinn and stuff. She had Power Girl and
1296
01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:34.159
the old standard costume and shit, and then people were like, well,
1297
01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:35.239
I don't know what the fuck to do with that.
1298
01:07:38.440 --> 01:07:40.920
It's like that old Norm McDonald bit on Weekend Update
1299
01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:44.320
where like he like makes a joke about women drivers
1300
01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:47.840
or something and he's like and everyone booze, and he's like, aha,
1301
01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:50.079
how about that joke was written by a woman and
1302
01:07:50.079 --> 01:07:51.679
everyone was just quiet. He's like, yeah, now you don't
1303
01:07:51.679 --> 01:07:55.360
know what the hell did I'm just kidding. We don't
1304
01:07:55.360 --> 01:08:01.280
employ women here, no, uh yeah, I just.
1305
01:08:01.320 --> 01:08:03.480
Didn't be true, mostly due to a lack of an
1306
01:08:03.480 --> 01:08:04.679
ability to employ anyone.
1307
01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:09.159
Right. Uh. But then you have you know, Tina Fe
1308
01:08:09.159 --> 01:08:10.880
and Amy Pollar come in and just like run the
1309
01:08:10.880 --> 01:08:14.920
fucking show for a minute. So yay, some of the
1310
01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:18.680
best fucking SNL too. Killer God love Tina Fe. Yeah,
1311
01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:24.720
so yeah, I don't care. I honestly, I think I'm
1312
01:08:24.720 --> 01:08:27.560
a little partial to the recent thing with Power Girl,
1313
01:08:27.600 --> 01:08:31.920
where you know, she's got pants and a jacket, like
1314
01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:33.479
a red jacket instead of the cape.
1315
01:08:33.560 --> 01:08:34.279
I haven't seen that.
1316
01:08:34.640 --> 01:08:37.399
Yeah, that's a thing. I like that. I'm a sucker
1317
01:08:37.399 --> 01:08:40.000
for a jacket, for like a short jacket. I think
1318
01:08:40.119 --> 01:08:42.159
Rogue did it to me and the X Men back
1319
01:08:42.159 --> 01:08:42.800
in the nineties.
1320
01:08:42.920 --> 01:08:45.680
Oh yeah, I mean, yeah, I get it. I don't
1321
01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:47.760
think that hit them. We didn't, you believe have a
1322
01:08:47.800 --> 01:08:48.520
short decket too.
1323
01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:49.880
No, she had a long coat.
1324
01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:52.439
It was a long coat. Yeah, I'm mixing those up then.
1325
01:08:52.720 --> 01:08:56.199
But she was like twelve, true, so I wasn't. I
1326
01:08:56.199 --> 01:08:58.520
didn't feel even as a child little.
1327
01:08:58.279 --> 01:08:59.880
Older for me at the time that I was watching
1328
01:08:59.880 --> 01:09:00.840
the original.
1329
01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:03.000
It was a little old, like I just slipped right
1330
01:09:03.079 --> 01:09:05.159
on past. Like it was like she was a little old,
1331
01:09:06.039 --> 01:09:10.680
but still, you know, wasn't hitting the hormone buttons, yeah,
1332
01:09:11.119 --> 01:09:14.960
you know, and then uh yeah, I just missed right.
1333
01:09:15.760 --> 01:09:17.680
They tried. It was weird. They tried to age Jubilee
1334
01:09:17.760 --> 01:09:19.479
up and made her sexy in the comics later on,
1335
01:09:19.520 --> 01:09:21.960
and it was just weird. It was just weird.
1336
01:09:22.479 --> 01:09:24.319
I can see it. Not how I got to know her,
1337
01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:24.680
you know.
1338
01:09:25.039 --> 01:09:27.159
It was just like I remember when she was like
1339
01:09:27.399 --> 01:09:33.600
twelve and going on adventures with Wolverine. Yeah, and uh yeah,
1340
01:09:33.880 --> 01:09:38.399
he was calling her kid and shit, like yeah.
1341
01:09:37.520 --> 01:09:39.359
I thought the person with bubble gum still, damn it.
1342
01:09:40.159 --> 01:09:43.359
Yeah, yeah, it was weird that they tried to age
1343
01:09:43.399 --> 01:09:46.199
her up. And I'm not saying she can't be aged
1344
01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:49.159
up or comic book characters can't be aged up. God knows,
1345
01:09:49.199 --> 01:09:52.079
and so do all the people fantasizing about night Wings.
1346
01:09:52.119 --> 01:09:56.479
Ass Uh, you don't have to keep them children forever.
1347
01:09:57.159 --> 01:10:00.159
It's one of the more impressive asses in comics. Are
1348
01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:02.239
out of comics. I think it's illegal not to make
1349
01:10:02.239 --> 01:10:03.159
it in actual circle.
1350
01:10:03.520 --> 01:10:05.960
You know, it's funny, it's funny. Those are the two
1351
01:10:06.039 --> 01:10:10.520
that I talked about because Jubilee and Nightwing, those are
1352
01:10:11.159 --> 01:10:14.640
two characters pretty specifically that people fight about whether or
1353
01:10:14.680 --> 01:10:15.239
not they're Asian.
1354
01:10:16.399 --> 01:10:17.239
It's finney.
1355
01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:23.279
Which Jubilee is Asian. It's weird that they drew her
1356
01:10:23.359 --> 01:10:26.319
with big blue eyes for a while in the comics.
1357
01:10:26.600 --> 01:10:29.000
I feel like people didn't know, like some of the
1358
01:10:29.079 --> 01:10:29.760
artists didn't know.
1359
01:10:29.800 --> 01:10:31.800
You know, I don't think I ever reached it one
1360
01:10:31.840 --> 01:10:32.199
way or the other.
1361
01:10:32.319 --> 01:10:34.199
Yeah, yeah, that was weird.
1362
01:10:34.319 --> 01:10:35.560
Nighting comes up though.
1363
01:10:35.800 --> 01:10:38.199
Yeah he does. I'm not confused, but I don't know
1364
01:10:38.359 --> 01:10:39.399
he's Romani.
1365
01:10:40.079 --> 01:10:41.800
I mean he yeah, I guess he is Romani And
1366
01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:44.239
like the once you actually give him a story, he's
1367
01:10:44.239 --> 01:10:45.760
got one, but even without a story, he just kind
1368
01:10:45.760 --> 01:10:49.119
of looks like an average white dude. Yeah, and then
1369
01:10:49.199 --> 01:10:51.239
well he was and you hear his name, and there's
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01:10:51.439 --> 01:10:54.319
no forgiveness whatsoever, and the white dutiness of it.
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Right, I think he was just a white dude. And
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then at some point was it Devin Grayson who made
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Ramani or gil simonone somebody I can't remember who it was,
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relatively a new thing, was it?
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That was that part of quart of Oles.
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It wasn't part of Court of Owl's. It was before
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that Wind did.
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The Gray soon that was adding to the Romani thing.
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01:11:22.760 --> 01:11:25.720
Devin Grayson began writing the character in the late nineties
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and early two thousands. Yeah, yeah, that was a Gotham
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Night's Number twenty in two thousand and one. I had
1382
01:11:32.760 --> 01:11:38.319
that issue. Yeah, absolutely absolutely, alrighty, well, that's I can't
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01:11:38.319 --> 01:11:41.359
believe I remembered that. Jesus Christ very impressed.
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Amazing what sticks around in it?
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01:11:48.159 --> 01:11:51.479
Yeah, it doesn't matter, though, it doesn't matter. I don't
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01:11:51.479 --> 01:11:55.920
think they've ever had someone of Romani heritage playing Dick
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01:11:56.199 --> 01:11:59.279
in anything. It's always been a white dude with brown hair,
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which I've hated.
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01:12:03.479 --> 01:12:05.920
Yeah, I guess he is supposed to be black haired,
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01:12:05.960 --> 01:12:09.439
beasted on every drawing I've ever seen in btas where Yeah,
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01:12:09.560 --> 01:12:12.760
I do immediately think of him in BTS sharp lines
1392
01:12:12.840 --> 01:12:15.199
like that in my head when I visualized night when
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01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:17.840
he looks like that, or or one of the recent
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01:12:17.920 --> 01:12:21.439
covers from like the Tom Taylor run that very much
1395
01:12:21.520 --> 01:12:25.720
remind me of the old BTS, like line, I guess
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the line sizes, you know, mm.
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Hmm, I do. I do, Like I am in favor
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01:12:31.119 --> 01:12:34.880
of diversifying the robins a bit more like I'm not
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a big fan of all of them just looking like
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the same white kid with black hair.
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01:12:40.159 --> 01:12:41.600
Yeah, I mean, I guess. I mean, there's no reason
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it has to be sure. It's not like he was
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trying to disguise these kids as his genetic offspring.
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Right, and like I could see if he made them
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01:12:50.319 --> 01:12:52.760
wear a wig or something in the early days or
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01:12:52.960 --> 01:12:56.199
diet or something. But you know what, Like I mean,
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01:12:56.239 --> 01:13:01.199
originally Jason Todd had like blonde or red hair. They
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01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:03.479
went back and forth because old comics and colors.
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01:13:03.600 --> 01:13:05.359
Sure, yeah, that's tract.
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01:13:06.239 --> 01:13:08.600
So the original Jason Todd was more of he was
1411
01:13:08.600 --> 01:13:12.640
a ginger Yeah, and then that changed post crisis. You know,
1412
01:13:12.800 --> 01:13:16.039
if you wanted to go back and make Jason redhead again,
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01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:19.159
it would be upset make him a redhead again. Keep
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01:13:19.239 --> 01:13:22.960
Dick Romani, you know, all of a sudden, Tim Drake
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01:13:23.119 --> 01:13:26.079
is Asian or something. I don't know, like, I mean,
1416
01:13:26.840 --> 01:13:28.479
maybe diversify a little.
1417
01:13:28.239 --> 01:13:30.720
Bit, you can, now that I'm thinking about the history.
1418
01:13:30.720 --> 01:13:32.600
It's probably just more that this all just sort of
1419
01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:36.880
evolves out of history that's now decades old, and we're
1420
01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:40.039
basing this off like forty fifty to sixty even seventy
1421
01:13:40.079 --> 01:13:42.720
years ago to some extent, and at that time would
1422
01:13:42.720 --> 01:13:44.920
have been super fucking strange if he just had like
1423
01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:47.840
a TaiWhen he's eight year old war or some shit.
1424
01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:51.439
Well, then it becomes like it also becomes like, I
1425
01:13:51.479 --> 01:13:54.479
don't like the fact that this Bruce Wayne, that Batman
1426
01:13:54.640 --> 01:13:57.560
keeps adopting ethnic children, especially in danger.
1427
01:13:57.920 --> 01:14:02.319
Yeah, like for most of Midcenter nineteen hundreds, there's no
1428
01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:06.119
single small demographic you could have put him with that
1429
01:14:06.159 --> 01:14:08.920
wouldn't have been some kind of really fucked up for
1430
01:14:09.039 --> 01:14:13.159
different reasons, like yeah, any version of reasons, Like.
1431
01:14:13.119 --> 01:14:16.720
No, fine, great, now the new Robin is fucking short round, Yeah,
1432
01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:21.399
like you don't want to do that stereotype. Oh god,
1433
01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:22.439
that's strange.
1434
01:14:22.640 --> 01:14:26.119
Yeah, it just stuck with a bunch of white, adjacent
1435
01:14:26.319 --> 01:14:27.039
looking kids.
1436
01:14:27.199 --> 01:14:29.279
You know. Well, no, only one of them was Jason.
1437
01:14:29.560 --> 01:14:32.680
Yeah.
1438
01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:40.000
Uh, all right, I think we're gonna call it on that.
1439
01:14:40.520 --> 01:14:45.199
Oh Jit, okay, huh yeah, she's done. I guess all right, let's.
1440
01:14:44.840 --> 01:14:48.319
Yeah, you're good. Yeah, he sounded so shocked.
1441
01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:52.239
I am. I was surprised. Well did you find another story?
1442
01:14:53.359 --> 01:14:57.239
I did? Uh, thank you Kieran and uh or kids,
1443
01:14:58.119 --> 01:15:00.680
and uh, thank you guys for listening. And we'll be
1444
01:15:00.760 --> 01:15:05.680
back with another piece maker review, and we'll be back
1445
01:15:05.680 --> 01:15:08.039
with news at some point when it builds up a
1446
01:15:08.039 --> 01:15:10.960
little bit. Again. This was I mean, we still made
1447
01:15:11.439 --> 01:15:13.920
a fair amount of time out of six pages.
1448
01:15:14.079 --> 01:15:15.399
Sure, sure, but.
1449
01:15:15.319 --> 01:15:18.600
I had fun. Did you did you have fun? Oh?
1450
01:15:18.640 --> 01:15:21.079
For sure? Did you like it Jason a little bit?
1451
01:15:21.119 --> 01:15:22.479
Did you like doing the show? Yeah?
1452
01:15:22.560 --> 01:15:22.800
Most?
1453
01:15:23.239 --> 01:15:25.960
Okay, Yeah, just trying to make sure that you're happy.
1454
01:15:25.960 --> 01:15:28.079
I'm just going to back away every time you ask again,
1455
01:15:28.159 --> 01:15:31.760
it's gonna get worse. Uh by the sixth question, I've
1456
01:15:31.760 --> 01:15:33.000
hated everything we've done.
1457
01:15:33.119 --> 01:15:35.880
Right, and then you'll be matching my mind.
1458
01:15:36.039 --> 01:15:37.640
Yeah, it's called question.
1459
01:15:38.319 --> 01:15:44.399
I've questioned every fucking thing I've said on this podcast.
1460
01:15:44.399 --> 01:15:47.680
Patreon dot com slash DC on screen. If you want
1461
01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:49.520
to go over there, you can be a free member.
1462
01:15:49.720 --> 01:15:51.800
You won't really get anything but the community out of it.
1463
01:15:51.840 --> 01:15:55.600
But no, it's still fun. It's still well, maybe it's fun.
1464
01:15:55.880 --> 01:15:56.319
I don't know.
1465
01:15:56.600 --> 01:15:58.239
I've had a bunch of bunch of new stuff up
1466
01:15:58.239 --> 01:15:58.720
there recently.
1467
01:15:59.079 --> 01:16:02.359
We have, we have and I do publicly post stuff that,
1468
01:16:02.520 --> 01:16:05.319
you know, I've put up this outside of DC on screen,
1469
01:16:05.479 --> 01:16:08.960
like the new newsletter that I'm doing, and I'll put
1470
01:16:09.039 --> 01:16:12.079
up you know, some social media stuff that I this
1471
01:16:12.359 --> 01:16:16.760
DC related. And but for a dollar a month you
1472
01:16:16.840 --> 01:16:19.960
get every episode add free, all of these episodes, just
1473
01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:23.039
without all the annoying ads in the middle or throughout,
1474
01:16:23.199 --> 01:16:25.399
and and then for five dollars a month you get
1475
01:16:25.439 --> 01:16:29.079
all of that, the community, the ad free stuff, plus
1476
01:16:29.960 --> 01:16:34.399
you know, hit the microphone, plus whenever we put up
1477
01:16:34.439 --> 01:16:38.760
you know, like a Marvel review or comic castaways or
1478
01:16:38.840 --> 01:16:40.439
whatever the hell we're doing recently.
1479
01:16:40.720 --> 01:16:44.600
So dragged you the middle of the evening to the fantastic.
1480
01:16:44.119 --> 01:16:49.279
For you did the evening, late night, late night, motherfucker.
1481
01:16:51.159 --> 01:16:54.920
I considered evening to like three am.
1482
01:16:55.319 --> 01:16:58.640
I know you're just wrong. This is not subjective.
1483
01:16:58.680 --> 01:17:00.439
I don't know why that word changes in my head.
1484
01:17:00.439 --> 01:17:02.000
It just feels whatever.
1485
01:17:02.479 --> 01:17:06.520
Hm. Anyway, I didn't mind either way, had a good time.
1486
01:17:06.840 --> 01:17:09.359
We did. We did still got a couple of pop
1487
01:17:09.399 --> 01:17:14.199
tarts left, fantastic four pop Tarts. I man, I was
1488
01:17:14.199 --> 01:17:17.359
so bummed out. People We've been catching up on Love's
1489
01:17:17.399 --> 01:17:19.479
Blond and they were eating fucking pop tarts, and man,
1490
01:17:19.520 --> 01:17:22.119
I wish I had some Fantastic four pop tarts. I
1491
01:17:22.199 --> 01:17:23.840
just had to let go into the kitchen and pull
1492
01:17:23.840 --> 01:17:26.079
out Graham Crackers, which I was excited about until I
1493
01:17:26.079 --> 01:17:27.439
saw someone else with pop tarts.
1494
01:17:28.560 --> 01:17:31.720
There really were a lot, and our our local Walmart
1495
01:17:31.880 --> 01:17:36.159
recently hmm, only a few days ago. The Yeah, I
1496
01:17:36.199 --> 01:17:37.680
have a feeling if we venture up there we'll be
1497
01:17:37.680 --> 01:17:38.560
able to get the end cap.
1498
01:17:38.840 --> 01:17:41.359
Oh yeah, we can go get some more to ourselves.
1499
01:17:41.359 --> 01:17:43.520
Still open for thirty minutes. Let's go get some pop tarts.
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01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:48.960
Knock it out all right, Thanks for listening. Until next time,
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01:17:49.479 --> 01:17:50.800
keep some DC on your screen.
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