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Speaker 6: No institution gets to protect its reputation.
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Speaker 5: New York Governor Hochul appoints Letitia James in Cornell case.
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Speaker 5: Two weeks, but it's going to be ideal for a couple here. So 303-713-8255, D-A-N-57739. Zach and I were just talking about it. Zach's in to produce the show today, which we always enjoy. But we were talking about the fact that, oh, my Lord, there is so much great stuff to talk about today. So much compelling sound. And it's like, why didn't this come on Monday? Why didn't this come on Monday? We could just use it over two or three days. But we take it as it comes. And, hey, we specialize in breaking news. And it's not like any of this is earth-shaking news or anything. It's just really interesting and important. And I want to come right out of the gate with this one because it goes to issues that transcend even the very important issues that's at stake in the Cornell alleged gang rape case.
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Speaker 1: It goes right to the heart.
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Speaker 5: Of something that could impact you and your family at any time. And that is the justice system in America. And whether the left is perverting it, you know, to the point where presumption of innocence is gone, the importance of evidence is gone, and the left is just out there to destroy it. the people that it wants to destroy for whatever reason. Now, obviously, we spent a couple of years talking about this in the context of President Trump. And as I predicted, it was one of the reasons that he won a second term, because a lot of people who don't like him voted for.
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Speaker 1: Him because they don't want us to be a banana republic.
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Speaker 5: They didn't want the left's abuse of the legal system through this lawfare to win, to succeed. And thank God those voters saved America, because could you imagine if that tactic had won? What kind of country would we be living in now where everything from dog catcher to president, that the side in power is trying to put the enemy in jail because it can't beat them at the polls or doesn't want to take the risk.
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Speaker 1: Of losing to them at the polls?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the kind of country we'd live in now if the left had gotten away with that. But we face this in a different context right now as we talk about the alleged gang rape at Cornell because– And I want to put this caveat out there to start, and I'm going to repeat it a few times because I don't want to be misunderstood on this. Even if what the young men did was not criminal, and they're presumed innocent until proven guilty, but even if what they did was not criminal, it was reprehensible. that they're lowlifes to have engaged in this behavior. So please don't interpret anything I say as any kind of defense of their actions, excuse, justifications due to drugs, alcohol, whatever.
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Speaker 1: No, none of it.
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Speaker 5: Because no matter what happened, they knew there were a whole bunch of guys having sex with one girl in a frat house.
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Speaker 1: And they had to know that at.
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Speaker 5: The very least she'd been drinking and doing some drugs because it appears there are some undisputed facts that they were doing drugs together.
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Speaker 1: So whether it's criminal or not, it's horrific.
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Speaker 5: But the point I'm addressing goes to a bigger point about abuse of our justice system. And that's what's occurring right now, the politicization of our justice system. And I know that's not how you say the word, but that's how I say the word because I can't say it any better than that. Maybe I should find a different word, Zach, but you know what I mean, when all of a sudden politics corrupts our judicial system. And I think that's what's going on right now.
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Speaker 1: In New York. I'm going to play you the sound where you have.
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Speaker 5: The governor, Kathy Hochul, getting involved. And I'll play you sound from her presser. And then you have her appointing Letitia James, the attorney general of New York.
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Speaker 1: Remember that the blatant.
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Speaker 5: Lawfare abuse of the justice system for Letitia James to go after Trump in New York. And it wasn't enough that they were going to try to abuse the legal process to have Trump die in jail. But they wanted him to die broke. And so that's why they pursued these bizarre exorbitant civil penalties.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, I think I know what's really going on here.
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Speaker 5: And I think that after you listen to this sound, you will, too, without me even saying it.
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Speaker 1: But I'd love your thoughts. And I'm going to give you mine. 303-713-8255.
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Speaker 5: D-A-N-5-7-7-E.
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Speaker 1: So you've got the governor.
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Speaker 5: Now appointing Letitia James to be this special prosecutor.
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Speaker 1: So listen to this sound.
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Speaker 5: See if you draw the same conclusion I do again with the starting point being whether it was criminal or not, that the behavior of these these men was horrific.
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Speaker 6: In what world would the police learn from a victim that she'd been literally gang raped while intoxicated by five men in a fraternity house and not elevate those allegations to the district attorney?
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Speaker 1: In what world does the district attorney.
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Speaker 6: Not even interview her or anyone else involved or even request the full transcript? This woman, this young woman, had already endured something that is utterly unspeakable. And then at every turn, she was failed by people and institutions with.
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Speaker 1: An obligation to protect her.
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Speaker 6: When the Tompkins County District Attorney announced that he is reopening the case, he pointed to Jane Doe's statement and said it did not establish that a crime had occurred. But new reporting raises serious questions about the information his office relied upon when it made that decision. And that's why I believe this case demands a special prosecutor who will provide a fresh and thorough review of all the facts, including the information that has recently come to light. And that is why I'm invoking the power conferred to me as the governor of the state of New York to enlist Attorney General James as an independent special prosecutor in this case. She'll follow the facts. She'll examine the evidence and go wherever it leads. And if the evidence supports criminal charges, she will pursue them. No institution gets to protect its reputation at the expense of a young person.
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Speaker 5: OK, so so Hochul says she's going to appoint Letitia James, the attorney general, to be an independent prosecutor. Well, this is preposterous because it's obvious, and I'm going to play the tape for you now, that Letitia James is the opposite of independent. She's already drawn her conclusions. And the governor, as you just heard, has already declared these men to be guilty. She's already declared it, making it virtually impossible for them to get a fair trial. And again, I think what they did was reprehensible, whether it's criminal or not. But she, and she has done this knowingly, has made it impossible for them to get a fair trial by declaring them guilty. But if she truly wanted an independent investigation, she would appoint somebody other than Letitia James, almost anybody. other than Letitia James. Why? Because Letitia James has already publicly declared them guilty.
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Speaker 7: Attorney General, on your Facebook page three days ago, you wrote, what this young woman.
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Speaker 8: Has been forced to endure is horrific and unacceptable.
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Speaker 7: I'm holding her in my heart and in my prayers for her and to all survivors.
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Speaker 4: You're not alone.
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Speaker 7: We stand with you. Why did you affirm her allegations as fact without doing your own fact-finding investigation to the governor? Why did you appoint an official who made a public statement affirming those allegations as fact as someone who's supposed to be doing an investigation?
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Speaker 6: I will answer that. I have every confidence in our Attorney General to do what she has always done, look at the facts, examine the record, and draw the proper conclusions. That's exactly what's going to happen in this case.
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Speaker 1: I will not comment on a Facebook post. On her own Facebook post? Won't comment on her own Facebook post? Well, wait a second.
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Speaker 5: Are you saying, Governor Hochul, you couldn't find any other prosecutor anywhere in the country who's credible and experienced and has not yet declared the men guilty? No, it's crystal clear what's going on here. Crystal clear that Hochul and James are absolutely determined to convict these young men, these men, these people engaged in this horrible behavior, to convict them in the court of public opinion, even if they can't convict them in a courtroom. I believe that's highly, highly, highly unethical behavior. Now, we all understand for politicians there is no enforceable code of ethics. It's just a criminal law. For lawyers, there is an enforceable code of ethics, and prosecutors are bound by a very, very high code. They cannot walk out there to a microphone, and knowing that they are standing there without the evidence to convict beyond a reasonable doubt, they can't go out there and decide to just destroy their targets in the public because they can't convict them in a courtroom. But I think that's part of what's going on here. That's why she chose Letitia James, who has already declared these targets guilty, because they want to destroy them in the court of public opinion, knowing they probably cannot convict them in a courtroom. And And when we come back, I'll tell you why, at least based on the evidence publicly available, which is just a fraction of all the evidence, right? But based on what's publicly available, they're probably not going to be able to convict him in a courtroom, even though the behavior was horrific.
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Speaker 5: See what's so interesting here. This is James Tallarico. He is truly one of the more bizarre candidates. We've seen run for U.S. Senate with a real chance to win. This is down in Texas. In Texas, unfortunately, Ken Paxton has some major vulnerabilities, shall we say, so Tallarico might actually win that race. In the end, if I'm betting my car, I'm betting Paxton pulls it out because it looks like there's a couple hundred million in Republican money coming in to help Paxton because that seat's going to be pretty critical. But Tallarico is just whack in so many different ways. And yet he felt compelled to cut a spot saying he does not support sex change operations for minors. Think about how significant that is and how encouraging it is for these ballot measures we have in Colorado. We had Aaron Leon again yesterday, you know, talking about, you know, you've got 134, 135, talking about the ballot measure that.
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Speaker 1: Would make it illegal to vote.
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Speaker 5: Do these sex change operations for minors if you want to cut off a child's penis you have to wait till they're an adult same thing with the double mastectomy for girls you can't do that till they're an adult and and you would think that would be a 99 to 1 issue in colorado with the one being in an institution somewhere but no the left this is the hill they're willing to fight and die on to be able to cut body parts off children before they turn adults but even talarico.
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Speaker 1: Stuff he said.
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Speaker 5: Had to cut a spot saying he opposes sex change operations for minors. So I think that's very encouraging for Colorado and I think it helps explain that spot we spent a lot of time on on the show yesterday where you had three people from the left trying to make the case for this and it was just like a Saturday Night Live skit.
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Speaker 1: 303-713-8255, the number.
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Speaker 5: Hey, we're talking about what's going on with the alleged gang rape at Cornell. And obviously the preface is, even if it wasn't criminal, what these men did was horrific. And I understand some people may disagree with the premise because there's some commentary out there saying, hey, what's happening now, and we have to address this, is that you have a lot of people college age, including a lot of women college age, who just view sexuality in a whole different way than most people have through the course.
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Speaker 1: Of human history.
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Speaker 5: And they view orgies and group sex and all that as normal and drug use during all that as normal. So that's one part of the commentary out there. But I would hope one thing we can all agree on, two things we can all agree on.
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Speaker 1: That if you have.
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Speaker 5: A woman of any age, if you have a woman of any age, in this case a young woman, and it's obvious that she's been drinking alcohol and or doing drugs, it is just absolutely wrong for a group of men to then have sex with her and then send out a message saying essentially free sex, but in much cruder terms, come on upstairs in a frat house. That's just got to be wrong. under any set of circumstances, correct? And if you disagree with that, as Prime says, you know where to find me, 303-713-8255, DAN-57739. But then you get to the different issue.
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Speaker 1: Is it criminal?
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Speaker 5: And then you get to the issue that we're spending most of our time on today, which is the attempt of the left to do away with the presumption of innocence in our legal system and simply use their position. as leftist prosecutors to destroy people without a trial. I mean, that's what we're talking about today. That's obviously what they set out to do with Trump, but they really did believe they could put him in jail, but destroy him as much as they could, even if they didn't prevail.
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Speaker 1: But here, I.
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Speaker 5: Personally believe, and I don't think there's much doubt about it, that Hochul knows and Letitia James know that they're highly unlikely to be able to prove any crimes. in a criminal courtroom, and that what they're setting out to do is to destroy. And whether they're seeking to destroy these men because they truly believe that they committed crimes, but shoot, we just can't prove them, or whether they're setting out to destroy these men because they think it's just to their political advantage. One way or the other, if they made it clear today in this press conference, they were just out to destroy these men. And again, I think what the men did was horrific. But when we're talking about something like a crime and a crime as serious as this, I just think it's fundamentally wrong to be publicly declaring people guilty as a governor, as a prosecutor, before you can prove it in court. What do you think about that? 303-713-8255-DAN.
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Speaker 1: 57739.
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Speaker 5: And if you just joined us, getting back to some of the more compelling sound, and this is where the press is at its best. And I don't know who asked this question, but the question went right to the heart of it. It was articulate and well-delivered. It was Hey, well, why'd you pick Letitia James when she's already declared him guilty?
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Speaker 7: Attorney General, on your Facebook page three days ago, you wrote, what this young woman has been forced to endure is horrific and unacceptable. I'm holding her in my heart and in my prayers. To her and to all survivors, you're not alone. We stand with you. Why did you affirm her allegations as fact without doing your own fact-finding investigation to the governor? Why did you appoint an official who made a public statement affirming those allegations as fact as someone who's supposed to be doing an investigation?
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Speaker 6: I will answer that. I have every confidence in our Attorney General to do what she has always done. Look at the facts, examine the record, and draw the proper conclusions. That's exactly what's going to happen in this case.
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Speaker 1: I will not comment on a Facebook post.
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Speaker 5: Your own Facebook post she won't comment on. Yeah, because they both know. They've already declared him guilty. And I think that's a very bad precedent. I think it corrupts the American justice system. It certainly undermines the opportunity for a fair trial for these men who committed such horrific acts. But those acts may not have been criminal. And they are entitled to the presumption of innocence. So, yeah, that is what I think is going on there. And in a way, they're not even trying to hide it, right? So, love to get your take on that. 303-713-8255, the number D-A-N-57739. And the reason I think it matters to you is you look at a state like Colorado, and we have so many district attorney's offices that are now controlled by deputies. And some of those Democrats are outstanding law enforcement officers.
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Speaker 1: You know, I can think right off the top of my head of two or three.
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Speaker 5: And obviously you have one up in Boulder and we've had Michael Dougherty.
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Speaker 1: On the show often.
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Speaker 5: So it's not that every Democrat prosecutor is someone who's going to abuse the office for political purposes. There are notable exceptions to that rule. But it's a growing trend on the left and among leftist prosecutors to use the office for political purposes. So this kind of precedent we're seeing in New York, it's dangerous to everybody.
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Speaker 1: Transport, entertainment.
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Speaker 8: Well, if that is so abundant that there's more, that the robots and AI are providing more goods and services than any human could possibly consume, What do you need money for in that case?
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Speaker 5: And then that conversation goes on intelligently from there. But I just wanted to give you a taste of Elon Musk's premise, which is that AI, including robotics, is going to lead to such prosperity, a quality of life prosperity.
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Speaker 1: That the people won't even.
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Speaker 5: Really need money and what he means by that is that you know the mass job loss shifting in the job market economy etc that we're going to see won't have as big an impact because people will be able to live so much better for less so so that's his operating premise and obviously nobody knows for sure right the world has never been through anything like what we're going through right now and about to go through in a tipping point kind of way But that's his premise. And he's a smart guy. He's done a lot of stuff. So I think it's worth considering that, among others. And let's hope that's where it ends up. 303-713-8255, D-A-N-57739. If you just joined in, I'll get to text in a second. We opened the show talking about this horrific event at Cornell.
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Speaker 1: Whether it's criminal or not is the question.
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Speaker 5: But we're focused today on the obvious abuse of the justice system.
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Speaker 1: By the governor of New York. And the state attorney general.
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Speaker 5: Letitia James, who basically publicly have already declared the men guilty criminally.
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Speaker 1: And they may be, but they may not be. And to do so, to declare them.
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Speaker 5: Guilty publicly like this and bring in a special prosecutor who's already said they're guilty, obviously is just... fundamentally un-American, as horrific as the conduct clearly was. But for example, listen, come on, none of us have access to anything close to the full case file, but some of the information that's public, and I believe that the DA's citing for not pursuing the case is, you know, texts sent by the young woman involved in A couple of days later to some of the men involved saying, quote, none of the sexual stuff was illegal. And the woman, when she returned home and was talking to her roommates the next day, just saying she had sex with multiple men at the frat, but never mentioning rape or abuse.
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Speaker 1: Now, does that mean she wasn't raped?
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 5: But it means when you have to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, that's a pretty tough starting point.
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Speaker 1: But we'll see where the rest of the case goes. But it's clear today.
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Speaker 5: That Letitia James and the governor, their purpose today was to destroy, you know, the suspects, to destroy them for life, whether or not they can convict them in a court of law. And I think that we should all be able to agree that that is horrific, no matter how awful the behavior of the suspects.
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Speaker 3: 303-713-8255, DAN-57739.
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Speaker 1: Texter says, Dan, gee, I remember a guy, Trump.
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Speaker 5: Who took out several full-page ads about the Central Park Five, who were charged with assaulting.
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Speaker 1: A jogger, calling for them to be killed.
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Speaker 5: They were later completely exonerated. Isn't that your king? No, I have one king, and that is the Lord Jesus Christ. But no. Yeah, hey, Trump made a mistake there. And I guess if the point is that Trump has made some mistakes, thank you, Captain Obvious Texter. We've never had a president in our history who has not made mistakes and not made big mistakes. And I think that's really fascinating to study, isn't it? Because I think anybody who's going to turn out to be a great president— and Trump, I think, has been a great president in many ways— that's somebody who's going to live large. That's somebody who's going to be unafraid. That's somebody who's going to be bold. And so their mistakes are going to be made loudly too. And that is certainly Trump. And it's a combination of personality as well. But virtually every great figure in human history, other than Christ himself, has made very big mistakes because they live unafraid and they live at full speed. 303-713-8255, the number D-A-N-57739. That's what we always used to tell our little leaguers when we coached them, which was, hey, make your mistakes full speed.
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Speaker 1: We will never get on.
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Speaker 5: Anybody about mistakes of aggression, but make your mistakes full speed. Dan, your theory of the case, Weiser, Griswold, limited campaigning due to their belief that they already won, yes, with rigged election machines, mail-in ballots. Um, et cetera, et cetera, it goes on from there. And, and I, I just, I respectfully disagree with the premise that the reason Democrats are winning, uh, so much in Colorado is because elections are rigged. I agree with the premise that we should have zero tolerance for fraud, that our system right now has, has too many opportunities for fraud and, and we should do everything we can to wipe out all fraud. But denial is not just a river in Egypt. And if we keep trying to tell ourselves that we're losing these elections because of being stolen, we're just going to lose more elections. And we're going to start losing some elections we should be able to win. You know, you got to be realistic. You know, like Clint Eastwood said, right? A man's got to know his limitations. You know, I have to be clear eyed and clinical about both our strengths and weaknesses and then just maximize our strengths. identify the weaknesses, and correct them as best we can, that that's the way you're going to win. Troy and Falcon, you're on the Dan Kaplan Show.
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Speaker 3: Welcome. Hey, Dan. Yeah, I agree. Everybody crying about the election of Solon, blah, blah, blah. I'm over it. Were there flaws in the system?
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Speaker 7: Of course.
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Speaker 3: There was always flaws.
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Speaker 7: Our election rolls haven't been turned over to be scrutinized by a third party.
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Speaker 3: But to get on to the.
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Speaker 3: The case that you're talking about.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Cornell.
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Speaker 3: So, yeah, what I've read so far is that the party was wild.
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Speaker 1: The young lady was consenting until she wasn't consenting.
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Speaker 3: So, you know.
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Speaker 1: It really.
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Speaker 5: Well, to the point.
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Speaker 4: Of, when is consent no longer consent?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Troy, I appreciate that, as I have to go to a break. And listen, that's an issue that was the subject of the Mike Tyson rape trial. I remember that back in Indianapolis, and I covered that live. I was in the courtroom for the entire trial. In fact, I was— do you remember, Zach, Don King, Mike Tyson's manager, trainer— well, his manager— And I was sitting literally our knees pressed together in the courtroom as the verdict was being read. So the whole issue in that case was whether Desiree Washington had actually consented.
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Speaker 1: So I get it.
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Speaker 5: When is consent consent? Now, in New York, we have a different twist. And, you know, it was interesting, by the way, while we're talking that Tyson case, you know, Tyson had told people that that he believed she consented. Because he had told her when he called her about 1130 at night to say, hey, I'll swing by in the limo.
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Speaker 1: He told her to wear loose clothing.
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Speaker 5: He said that he said that so that they could easily have sex and that he was sure she understood that. So that when she wore loose clothing and came to the limo, he considered that consent. But then he also considered it consent when she went up to his hotel room with him. So he just interpreted all of that as consent, which it is not. But in Mike Tyson's world, and it's been a while since I was in that courtroom, but if I remember correctly, he had had relations with multiple women that day. I believe it was that day that the evidence was, you know, many, many women already that day. And so that was just his state of mind. but that isn't what's going to determine the outcome of the criminal case necessarily under those circumstances.
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Speaker 1: It has to be.
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Speaker 5: A reasonable belief there's been consent. And then in this New York case, in the Cornell case, we get into a particular twist in New York law that is going to be at the center if they actually try to bring the charges here, is going to be at the center of the case, which is, okay, in New York, we're just talking about New York here. In New York, some argue that under their law, if somebody is unable to consent because of voluntary, underline the word voluntary, intoxication, that the argument is going to be that it's not a rape if it was voluntary intoxication. I am not endorsing any law like that. I'm not endorsing that theory. My belief is that if somebody's staring at somebody, and it is clear that person is intoxicated to the point where they cannot form consent, then it should be rape under the law to then take advantage of that. But there's going to be an argument that that's not the way the law works in New York. You're on the Dan Kaplan Show.
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Speaker 1: And now back to the Dan Kaplan Show podcast.
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Speaker 3: Well, I think I'm worried that we're going full ahead without enough safety. And I'm really encouraged. Jensen Wong has already come out with some new technology to make it more safe. I was at Dreamforce the other day, and Mark Minioff was saying there was a discussion, what's more important, you know, progress or safety? And I said, both. We shouldn't have to choose between the two. And I don't think we do. And I think if we overreact, it's going to be very hard to be able to get China to stop. And I think that's a challenge. And the numbers like 10% extinction are made up. somebody's pulling that out of a hat and so you know how many a year ago we heard people saying 50 of white-collar jobs are going to be gone didn't come to be reality how many times have you heard scares of that nature so i think we need to be intelligent but i think we don't need to overreact or we're going to actually harm our ability to solve a lot of very important.
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Speaker 5: Problems that's pretty much word salad tony robbins i think is is one of the most effective people on the planet And I think he's done an awful lot of good for an awful lot of people. And an awful lot of his stuff is very well researched and makes total sense. So if you've never checked Robbins out before, it's worth checking him out. I mean, I think he helps a lot of people in a lot of ways. But that was just meaningless word salad. Because the reality with AI right now is that our enemies, you know, China, for example, they are full speed ahead. And they are full speed ahead without any breaks, any governors, and they are intentionally trying to utilize AI to destroy this nation. And so we're faced with the simple reality that if we now put the brakes on our AI industry, well, China is going to get there first in virtually every category, and that China is going to be able to develop ways to do us great harm before our AI developers are able to figure out ways to prevent that harm.
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Speaker 1: That's the reality.
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Speaker 5: Now, the tough part is, you know, if you just say to our AI industry, self-police, because we know if we kick in, you know, significant government regulation, it's going to slow you down too much and the enemy is going to win. Well, then that increases the danger that something could go terribly wrong. And that's a very real danger with AI. But that's the world we live in right now with this technology. There is no perfect path. Every path carries really significant risk and really major upside.
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Speaker 1: So which route do you.
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Speaker 3: Want to go?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the reality.
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Speaker 5: Now, Tony Robbins didn't want to take that head on, and no politician's going to want to take that head on. Because what if you're wrong? You know, the consequences in the end will be enormously negative to this nation. And then everybody will say, oh, yeah, you're the guy who said, you know, we just got to.
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Speaker 1: Go full speed ahead.
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Speaker 5: No big government regulation because the enemy will otherwise beat us. Then everybody points at you and says it was your fault. But that's why this moment takes real boldness. And Trump has, and you know, this thing, Trump, like most of the great figures in American political history, Trump is very bold and decisive and sometimes wrong. But when he's right, the results are spectacular. And Trump right now has carved out this self-policing for AI because he knows that the enemy will outrace us if we get bogged down in the kind of plotting regulation the left wants. And then you've got that other issue with the left of, hey.
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Speaker 1: Do they want to slow all of this down?
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Speaker 5: Because the left depends, for its very existence in Colorado and around the country, it depends on keeping large percentages of the population down, keeping them down economically. Because once people start to make a certain amount of money, and I'll check the current figure, I think it's around 70,000, 75,000, a majority vote Republican. So the left, I'm sure, is terrified over the prospect of AI now allowing many, many people who the left has successfully kept down for many years to prosper because then the left is done.
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Speaker 1: And that happens for good reason, right?
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Speaker 5: The more dependent people are on government, the more likely they are to vote for the left because the left has been socialist acting for a long time, and now it's just very much out in the open. And those who want to keep more of their money tend to vote Republican. So the left right now is absolutely terrified of AI because while it carries grave risk, it carries the largest opportunity we've seen in our lifetime or many lifetimes to very quickly– raise a lot of boats to the point where people say, hey, I don't need to elect these lefties anymore.
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Speaker 5: What a time to be alive, right? What a time to be alive with all this going on. And I don't care how old you are now. You could be 104 listening to this show, and chances are you're going to see such rapid developments in AI during the remainder of your lifetime. That it's really going to improve your quality of life in a bunch of ways. At the same time, say you're a kid just getting ready to get out of school or you're in your 20s, 30s, 40s. Yeah, you're going to get a dose of both, right? You're going to get a lot of good stuff you can already get right now from AI, even these kind of relatively primitive chat boxes. And then at the same time, it's probably going to be harder for you to find certain jobs or less opportunity to advance, right? because of the impact AI is having on the workforce. And there are a lot of people feeling it right now. I was talking to somebody last night about this kid.
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Speaker 1: He is a superstar.
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Speaker 5: I mean, he is the kind of kid who three years ago graduating college probably would have had 10 great job opportunities. Now, right now, he's sitting on one. And this is a kid you know is going to own the world at some point. But coming out of college right now in this age of AI disruption, he's got one job offer.
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Speaker 5: Two weeks, but it's going to be ideal for a couple here. So 303-713-8255, D-A-N-57739. Zach and I were just talking about it. Zach's in to produce the show today, which we always enjoy. But we were talking about the fact that, oh, my Lord, there is so much great stuff to talk about today. So much compelling sound. And it's like, why didn't this come on Monday? Why didn't this come on Monday? We could just use it over two or three days. But we take it as it comes. And, hey, we specialize in breaking news. And it's not like any of this is earth-shaking news or anything. It's just really interesting and important. And I want to come right out of the gate with this one because it goes to issues that transcend even the very important issues that's at stake in the Cornell alleged gang rape case.
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Speaker 1: It goes right to the heart.
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Speaker 5: Of something that could impact you and your family at any time. And that is the justice system in America. And whether the left is perverting it, you know, to the point where presumption of innocence is gone, the importance of evidence is gone, and the left is just out there to destroy it. the people that it wants to destroy for whatever reason. Now, obviously, we spent a couple of years talking about this in the context of President Trump. And as I predicted, it was one of the reasons that he won a second term, because a lot of people who don't like him voted for.
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Speaker 1: Him because they don't want us to be a banana republic.
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Speaker 5: They didn't want the left's abuse of the legal system through this lawfare to win, to succeed. And thank God those voters saved America, because could you imagine if that tactic had won? What kind of country would we be living in now where everything from dog catcher to president, that the side in power is trying to put the enemy in jail because it can't beat them at the polls or doesn't want to take the risk.
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Speaker 1: Of losing to them at the polls?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the kind of country we'd live in now if the left had gotten away with that. But we face this in a different context right now as we talk about the alleged gang rape at Cornell because– And I want to put this caveat out there to start, and I'm going to repeat it a few times because I don't want to be misunderstood on this. Even if what the young men did was not criminal, and they're presumed innocent until proven guilty, but even if what they did was not criminal, it was reprehensible. that they're lowlifes to have engaged in this behavior. So please don't interpret anything I say as any kind of defense of their actions, excuse, justifications due to drugs, alcohol, whatever.
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Speaker 1: No, none of it.
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Speaker 5: Because no matter what happened, they knew there were a whole bunch of guys having sex with one girl in a frat house.
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Speaker 1: And they had to know that at.
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Speaker 5: The very least she'd been drinking and doing some drugs because it appears there are some undisputed facts that they were doing drugs together.
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Speaker 1: So whether it's criminal or not, it's horrific.
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Speaker 5: But the point I'm addressing goes to a bigger point about abuse of our justice system. And that's what's occurring right now, the politicization of our justice system. And I know that's not how you say the word, but that's how I say the word because I can't say it any better than that. Maybe I should find a different word, Zach, but you know what I mean, when all of a sudden politics corrupts our judicial system. And I think that's what's going on right now.
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Speaker 1: In New York. I'm going to play you the sound where you have.
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Speaker 5: The governor, Kathy Hochul, getting involved. And I'll play you sound from her presser. And then you have her appointing Letitia James, the attorney general of New York.
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Speaker 1: Remember that the blatant.
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Speaker 5: Lawfare abuse of the justice system for Letitia James to go after Trump in New York. And it wasn't enough that they were going to try to abuse the legal process to have Trump die in jail. But they wanted him to die broke. And so that's why they pursued these bizarre exorbitant civil penalties.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, I think I know what's really going on here.
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Speaker 5: And I think that after you listen to this sound, you will, too, without me even saying it.
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Speaker 1: But I'd love your thoughts. And I'm going to give you mine. 303-713-8255.
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Speaker 5: D-A-N-5-7-7-E.
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Speaker 1: So you've got the governor.
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Speaker 5: Now appointing Letitia James to be this special prosecutor.
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Speaker 1: So listen to this sound.
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Speaker 5: See if you draw the same conclusion I do again with the starting point being whether it was criminal or not, that the behavior of these these men was horrific.
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Speaker 6: In what world would the police learn from a victim that she'd been literally gang raped while intoxicated by five men in a fraternity house and not elevate those allegations to the district attorney?
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Speaker 1: In what world does the district attorney.
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Speaker 6: Not even interview her or anyone else involved or even request the full transcript? This woman, this young woman, had already endured something that is utterly unspeakable. And then at every turn, she was failed by people and institutions with.
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Speaker 1: An obligation to protect her.
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Speaker 6: When the Tompkins County District Attorney announced that he is reopening the case, he pointed to Jane Doe's statement and said it did not establish that a crime had occurred. But new reporting raises serious questions about the information his office relied upon when it made that decision. And that's why I believe this case demands a special prosecutor who will provide a fresh and thorough review of all the facts, including the information that has recently come to light. And that is why I'm invoking the power conferred to me as the governor of the state of New York to enlist Attorney General James as an independent special prosecutor in this case. She'll follow the facts. She'll examine the evidence and go wherever it leads. And if the evidence supports criminal charges, she will pursue them. No institution gets to protect its reputation at the expense of a young person.
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Speaker 5: OK, so so Hochul says she's going to appoint Letitia James, the attorney general, to be an independent prosecutor. Well, this is preposterous because it's obvious, and I'm going to play the tape for you now, that Letitia James is the opposite of independent. She's already drawn her conclusions. And the governor, as you just heard, has already declared these men to be guilty. She's already declared it, making it virtually impossible for them to get a fair trial. And again, I think what they did was reprehensible, whether it's criminal or not. But she, and she has done this knowingly, has made it impossible for them to get a fair trial by declaring them guilty. But if she truly wanted an independent investigation, she would appoint somebody other than Letitia James, almost anybody. other than Letitia James. Why? Because Letitia James has already publicly declared them guilty.
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Speaker 7: Attorney General, on your Facebook page three days ago, you wrote, what this young woman.
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Speaker 8: Has been forced to endure is horrific and unacceptable.
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Speaker 7: I'm holding her in my heart and in my prayers for her and to all survivors.
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Speaker 4: You're not alone.
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Speaker 7: We stand with you. Why did you affirm her allegations as fact without doing your own fact-finding investigation to the governor? Why did you appoint an official who made a public statement affirming those allegations as fact as someone who's supposed to be doing an investigation?
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Speaker 6: I will answer that. I have every confidence in our Attorney General to do what she has always done, look at the facts, examine the record, and draw the proper conclusions. That's exactly what's going to happen in this case.
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Speaker 1: I will not comment on a Facebook post. On her own Facebook post? Won't comment on her own Facebook post? Well, wait a second.
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Speaker 5: Are you saying, Governor Hochul, you couldn't find any other prosecutor anywhere in the country who's credible and experienced and has not yet declared the men guilty? No, it's crystal clear what's going on here. Crystal clear that Hochul and James are absolutely determined to convict these young men, these men, these people engaged in this horrible behavior, to convict them in the court of public opinion, even if they can't convict them in a courtroom. I believe that's highly, highly, highly unethical behavior. Now, we all understand for politicians there is no enforceable code of ethics. It's just a criminal law. For lawyers, there is an enforceable code of ethics, and prosecutors are bound by a very, very high code. They cannot walk out there to a microphone, and knowing that they are standing there without the evidence to convict beyond a reasonable doubt, they can't go out there and decide to just destroy their targets in the public because they can't convict them in a courtroom. But I think that's part of what's going on here. That's why she chose Letitia James, who has already declared these targets guilty, because they want to destroy them in the court of public opinion, knowing they probably cannot convict them in a courtroom. And And when we come back, I'll tell you why, at least based on the evidence publicly available, which is just a fraction of all the evidence, right? But based on what's publicly available, they're probably not going to be able to convict him in a courtroom, even though the behavior was horrific.
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Speaker 1: You're on The Dan Kaplan Show. And now, back to The Dan Kaplan Show podcast. Because the truth about Ken Paxton is bad enough.
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Speaker 5: See what's so interesting here. This is James Tallarico. He is truly one of the more bizarre candidates. We've seen run for U.S. Senate with a real chance to win. This is down in Texas. In Texas, unfortunately, Ken Paxton has some major vulnerabilities, shall we say, so Tallarico might actually win that race. In the end, if I'm betting my car, I'm betting Paxton pulls it out because it looks like there's a couple hundred million in Republican money coming in to help Paxton because that seat's going to be pretty critical. But Tallarico is just whack in so many different ways. And yet he felt compelled to cut a spot saying he does not support sex change operations for minors. Think about how significant that is and how encouraging it is for these ballot measures we have in Colorado. We had Aaron Leon again yesterday, you know, talking about, you know, you've got 134, 135, talking about the ballot measure that.
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Speaker 1: Would make it illegal to vote.
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Speaker 5: Do these sex change operations for minors if you want to cut off a child's penis you have to wait till they're an adult same thing with the double mastectomy for girls you can't do that till they're an adult and and you would think that would be a 99 to 1 issue in colorado with the one being in an institution somewhere but no the left this is the hill they're willing to fight and die on to be able to cut body parts off children before they turn adults but even talarico.
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Speaker 1: Stuff he said.
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Speaker 5: Had to cut a spot saying he opposes sex change operations for minors. So I think that's very encouraging for Colorado and I think it helps explain that spot we spent a lot of time on on the show yesterday where you had three people from the left trying to make the case for this and it was just like a Saturday Night Live skit.
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Speaker 1: 303-713-8255, the number.
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Speaker 5: Hey, we're talking about what's going on with the alleged gang rape at Cornell. And obviously the preface is, even if it wasn't criminal, what these men did was horrific. And I understand some people may disagree with the premise because there's some commentary out there saying, hey, what's happening now, and we have to address this, is that you have a lot of people college age, including a lot of women college age, who just view sexuality in a whole different way than most people have through the course.
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Speaker 1: Of human history.
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Speaker 5: And they view orgies and group sex and all that as normal and drug use during all that as normal. So that's one part of the commentary out there. But I would hope one thing we can all agree on, two things we can all agree on.
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Speaker 1: That if you have.
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Speaker 5: A woman of any age, if you have a woman of any age, in this case a young woman, and it's obvious that she's been drinking alcohol and or doing drugs, it is just absolutely wrong for a group of men to then have sex with her and then send out a message saying essentially free sex, but in much cruder terms, come on upstairs in a frat house. That's just got to be wrong. under any set of circumstances, correct? And if you disagree with that, as Prime says, you know where to find me, 303-713-8255, DAN-57739. But then you get to the different issue.
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Speaker 1: Is it criminal?
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Speaker 5: And then you get to the issue that we're spending most of our time on today, which is the attempt of the left to do away with the presumption of innocence in our legal system and simply use their position. as leftist prosecutors to destroy people without a trial. I mean, that's what we're talking about today. That's obviously what they set out to do with Trump, but they really did believe they could put him in jail, but destroy him as much as they could, even if they didn't prevail.
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Speaker 1: But here, I.
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Speaker 5: Personally believe, and I don't think there's much doubt about it, that Hochul knows and Letitia James know that they're highly unlikely to be able to prove any crimes. in a criminal courtroom, and that what they're setting out to do is to destroy. And whether they're seeking to destroy these men because they truly believe that they committed crimes, but shoot, we just can't prove them, or whether they're setting out to destroy these men because they think it's just to their political advantage. One way or the other, if they made it clear today in this press conference, they were just out to destroy these men. And again, I think what the men did was horrific. But when we're talking about something like a crime and a crime as serious as this, I just think it's fundamentally wrong to be publicly declaring people guilty as a governor, as a prosecutor, before you can prove it in court. What do you think about that? 303-713-8255-DAN.
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Speaker 1: 57739.
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Speaker 5: And if you just joined us, getting back to some of the more compelling sound, and this is where the press is at its best. And I don't know who asked this question, but the question went right to the heart of it. It was articulate and well-delivered. It was Hey, well, why'd you pick Letitia James when she's already declared him guilty?
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Speaker 7: Attorney General, on your Facebook page three days ago, you wrote, what this young woman has been forced to endure is horrific and unacceptable. I'm holding her in my heart and in my prayers. To her and to all survivors, you're not alone. We stand with you. Why did you affirm her allegations as fact without doing your own fact-finding investigation to the governor? Why did you appoint an official who made a public statement affirming those allegations as fact as someone who's supposed to be doing an investigation?
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Speaker 6: I will answer that. I have every confidence in our Attorney General to do what she has always done. Look at the facts, examine the record, and draw the proper conclusions. That's exactly what's going to happen in this case.
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Speaker 1: I will not comment on a Facebook post.
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Speaker 5: Your own Facebook post she won't comment on. Yeah, because they both know. They've already declared him guilty. And I think that's a very bad precedent. I think it corrupts the American justice system. It certainly undermines the opportunity for a fair trial for these men who committed such horrific acts. But those acts may not have been criminal. And they are entitled to the presumption of innocence. So, yeah, that is what I think is going on there. And in a way, they're not even trying to hide it, right? So, love to get your take on that. 303-713-8255, the number D-A-N-57739. And the reason I think it matters to you is you look at a state like Colorado, and we have so many district attorney's offices that are now controlled by deputies. And some of those Democrats are outstanding law enforcement officers.
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Speaker 1: You know, I can think right off the top of my head of two or three.
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Speaker 5: And obviously you have one up in Boulder and we've had Michael Dougherty.
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Speaker 1: On the show often.
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Speaker 5: So it's not that every Democrat prosecutor is someone who's going to abuse the office for political purposes. There are notable exceptions to that rule. But it's a growing trend on the left and among leftist prosecutors to use the office for political purposes. So this kind of precedent we're seeing in New York, it's dangerous to everybody.
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure that the people who bought your shares think that money won't matter in 2036.
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Speaker 8: Well, what do you want money for? You want money for goods and services, right? You want money for obviously food, housing.
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Speaker 1: Transport, entertainment.
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Speaker 8: Well, if that is so abundant that there's more, that the robots and AI are providing more goods and services than any human could possibly consume, What do you need money for in that case?
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Speaker 5: And then that conversation goes on intelligently from there. But I just wanted to give you a taste of Elon Musk's premise, which is that AI, including robotics, is going to lead to such prosperity, a quality of life prosperity.
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Speaker 1: That the people won't even.
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Speaker 5: Really need money and what he means by that is that you know the mass job loss shifting in the job market economy etc that we're going to see won't have as big an impact because people will be able to live so much better for less so so that's his operating premise and obviously nobody knows for sure right the world has never been through anything like what we're going through right now and about to go through in a tipping point kind of way But that's his premise. And he's a smart guy. He's done a lot of stuff. So I think it's worth considering that, among others. And let's hope that's where it ends up. 303-713-8255, D-A-N-57739. If you just joined in, I'll get to text in a second. We opened the show talking about this horrific event at Cornell.
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Speaker 1: Whether it's criminal or not is the question.
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Speaker 5: But we're focused today on the obvious abuse of the justice system.
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Speaker 1: By the governor of New York. And the state attorney general.
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Speaker 5: Letitia James, who basically publicly have already declared the men guilty criminally.
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Speaker 1: And they may be, but they may not be. And to do so, to declare them.
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Speaker 5: Guilty publicly like this and bring in a special prosecutor who's already said they're guilty, obviously is just... fundamentally un-American, as horrific as the conduct clearly was. But for example, listen, come on, none of us have access to anything close to the full case file, but some of the information that's public, and I believe that the DA's citing for not pursuing the case is, you know, texts sent by the young woman involved in A couple of days later to some of the men involved saying, quote, none of the sexual stuff was illegal. And the woman, when she returned home and was talking to her roommates the next day, just saying she had sex with multiple men at the frat, but never mentioning rape or abuse.
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Speaker 1: Now, does that mean she wasn't raped?
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 5: But it means when you have to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, that's a pretty tough starting point.
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Speaker 1: But we'll see where the rest of the case goes. But it's clear today.
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Speaker 5: That Letitia James and the governor, their purpose today was to destroy, you know, the suspects, to destroy them for life, whether or not they can convict them in a court of law. And I think that we should all be able to agree that that is horrific, no matter how awful the behavior of the suspects.
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Speaker 3: 303-713-8255, DAN-57739.
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Speaker 1: Texter says, Dan, gee, I remember a guy, Trump.
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Speaker 5: Who took out several full-page ads about the Central Park Five, who were charged with assaulting.
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Speaker 1: A jogger, calling for them to be killed.
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Speaker 5: They were later completely exonerated. Isn't that your king? No, I have one king, and that is the Lord Jesus Christ. But no. Yeah, hey, Trump made a mistake there. And I guess if the point is that Trump has made some mistakes, thank you, Captain Obvious Texter. We've never had a president in our history who has not made mistakes and not made big mistakes. And I think that's really fascinating to study, isn't it? Because I think anybody who's going to turn out to be a great president— and Trump, I think, has been a great president in many ways— that's somebody who's going to live large. That's somebody who's going to be unafraid. That's somebody who's going to be bold. And so their mistakes are going to be made loudly too. And that is certainly Trump. And it's a combination of personality as well. But virtually every great figure in human history, other than Christ himself, has made very big mistakes because they live unafraid and they live at full speed. 303-713-8255, the number D-A-N-57739. That's what we always used to tell our little leaguers when we coached them, which was, hey, make your mistakes full speed.
00:25:27
Speaker 1: We will never get on.
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Speaker 5: Anybody about mistakes of aggression, but make your mistakes full speed. Dan, your theory of the case, Weiser, Griswold, limited campaigning due to their belief that they already won, yes, with rigged election machines, mail-in ballots. Um, et cetera, et cetera, it goes on from there. And, and I, I just, I respectfully disagree with the premise that the reason Democrats are winning, uh, so much in Colorado is because elections are rigged. I agree with the premise that we should have zero tolerance for fraud, that our system right now has, has too many opportunities for fraud and, and we should do everything we can to wipe out all fraud. But denial is not just a river in Egypt. And if we keep trying to tell ourselves that we're losing these elections because of being stolen, we're just going to lose more elections. And we're going to start losing some elections we should be able to win. You know, you got to be realistic. You know, like Clint Eastwood said, right? A man's got to know his limitations. You know, I have to be clear eyed and clinical about both our strengths and weaknesses and then just maximize our strengths. identify the weaknesses, and correct them as best we can, that that's the way you're going to win. Troy and Falcon, you're on the Dan Kaplan Show.
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Speaker 3: Welcome. Hey, Dan. Yeah, I agree. Everybody crying about the election of Solon, blah, blah, blah. I'm over it. Were there flaws in the system?
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Speaker 7: Of course.
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Speaker 3: There was always flaws.
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Speaker 7: Our election rolls haven't been turned over to be scrutinized by a third party.
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Speaker 3: But to get on to the.
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Speaker 3: The case that you're talking about.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Cornell.
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Speaker 3: So, yeah, what I've read so far is that the party was wild.
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Speaker 1: The young lady was consenting until she wasn't consenting.
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Speaker 3: So, you know.
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Speaker 1: It really.
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Speaker 5: Well, to the point.
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Speaker 4: Of, when is consent no longer consent?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Troy, I appreciate that, as I have to go to a break. And listen, that's an issue that was the subject of the Mike Tyson rape trial. I remember that back in Indianapolis, and I covered that live. I was in the courtroom for the entire trial. In fact, I was— do you remember, Zach, Don King, Mike Tyson's manager, trainer— well, his manager— And I was sitting literally our knees pressed together in the courtroom as the verdict was being read. So the whole issue in that case was whether Desiree Washington had actually consented.
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Speaker 1: So I get it.
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Speaker 5: When is consent consent? Now, in New York, we have a different twist. And, you know, it was interesting, by the way, while we're talking that Tyson case, you know, Tyson had told people that that he believed she consented. Because he had told her when he called her about 1130 at night to say, hey, I'll swing by in the limo.
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Speaker 1: He told her to wear loose clothing.
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Speaker 5: He said that he said that so that they could easily have sex and that he was sure she understood that. So that when she wore loose clothing and came to the limo, he considered that consent. But then he also considered it consent when she went up to his hotel room with him. So he just interpreted all of that as consent, which it is not. But in Mike Tyson's world, and it's been a while since I was in that courtroom, but if I remember correctly, he had had relations with multiple women that day. I believe it was that day that the evidence was, you know, many, many women already that day. And so that was just his state of mind. but that isn't what's going to determine the outcome of the criminal case necessarily under those circumstances.
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Speaker 1: It has to be.
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Speaker 5: A reasonable belief there's been consent. And then in this New York case, in the Cornell case, we get into a particular twist in New York law that is going to be at the center if they actually try to bring the charges here, is going to be at the center of the case, which is, okay, in New York, we're just talking about New York here. In New York, some argue that under their law, if somebody is unable to consent because of voluntary, underline the word voluntary, intoxication, that the argument is going to be that it's not a rape if it was voluntary intoxication. I am not endorsing any law like that. I'm not endorsing that theory. My belief is that if somebody's staring at somebody, and it is clear that person is intoxicated to the point where they cannot form consent, then it should be rape under the law to then take advantage of that. But there's going to be an argument that that's not the way the law works in New York. You're on the Dan Kaplan Show.
00:30:36
Speaker 1: And now back to the Dan Kaplan Show podcast.
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Speaker 3: Well, I think I'm worried that we're going full ahead without enough safety. And I'm really encouraged. Jensen Wong has already come out with some new technology to make it more safe. I was at Dreamforce the other day, and Mark Minioff was saying there was a discussion, what's more important, you know, progress or safety? And I said, both. We shouldn't have to choose between the two. And I don't think we do. And I think if we overreact, it's going to be very hard to be able to get China to stop. And I think that's a challenge. And the numbers like 10% extinction are made up. somebody's pulling that out of a hat and so you know how many a year ago we heard people saying 50 of white-collar jobs are going to be gone didn't come to be reality how many times have you heard scares of that nature so i think we need to be intelligent but i think we don't need to overreact or we're going to actually harm our ability to solve a lot of very important.
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Speaker 5: Problems that's pretty much word salad tony robbins i think is is one of the most effective people on the planet And I think he's done an awful lot of good for an awful lot of people. And an awful lot of his stuff is very well researched and makes total sense. So if you've never checked Robbins out before, it's worth checking him out. I mean, I think he helps a lot of people in a lot of ways. But that was just meaningless word salad. Because the reality with AI right now is that our enemies, you know, China, for example, they are full speed ahead. And they are full speed ahead without any breaks, any governors, and they are intentionally trying to utilize AI to destroy this nation. And so we're faced with the simple reality that if we now put the brakes on our AI industry, well, China is going to get there first in virtually every category, and that China is going to be able to develop ways to do us great harm before our AI developers are able to figure out ways to prevent that harm.
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Speaker 1: That's the reality.
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Speaker 5: Now, the tough part is, you know, if you just say to our AI industry, self-police, because we know if we kick in, you know, significant government regulation, it's going to slow you down too much and the enemy is going to win. Well, then that increases the danger that something could go terribly wrong. And that's a very real danger with AI. But that's the world we live in right now with this technology. There is no perfect path. Every path carries really significant risk and really major upside.
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Speaker 1: So which route do you.
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Speaker 3: Want to go?
00:33:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the reality.
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Speaker 5: Now, Tony Robbins didn't want to take that head on, and no politician's going to want to take that head on. Because what if you're wrong? You know, the consequences in the end will be enormously negative to this nation. And then everybody will say, oh, yeah, you're the guy who said, you know, we just got to.
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Speaker 1: Go full speed ahead.
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Speaker 5: No big government regulation because the enemy will otherwise beat us. Then everybody points at you and says it was your fault. But that's why this moment takes real boldness. And Trump has, and you know, this thing, Trump, like most of the great figures in American political history, Trump is very bold and decisive and sometimes wrong. But when he's right, the results are spectacular. And Trump right now has carved out this self-policing for AI because he knows that the enemy will outrace us if we get bogged down in the kind of plotting regulation the left wants. And then you've got that other issue with the left of, hey.
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Speaker 1: Do they want to slow all of this down?
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Speaker 5: Because the left depends, for its very existence in Colorado and around the country, it depends on keeping large percentages of the population down, keeping them down economically. Because once people start to make a certain amount of money, and I'll check the current figure, I think it's around 70,000, 75,000, a majority vote Republican. So the left, I'm sure, is terrified over the prospect of AI now allowing many, many people who the left has successfully kept down for many years to prosper because then the left is done.
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Speaker 1: And that happens for good reason, right?
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Speaker 5: The more dependent people are on government, the more likely they are to vote for the left because the left has been socialist acting for a long time, and now it's just very much out in the open. And those who want to keep more of their money tend to vote Republican. So the left right now is absolutely terrified of AI because while it carries grave risk, it carries the largest opportunity we've seen in our lifetime or many lifetimes to very quickly– raise a lot of boats to the point where people say, hey, I don't need to elect these lefties anymore.
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Speaker 1: 303-713-8255, DAN-57739.
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Speaker 5: What a time to be alive, right? What a time to be alive with all this going on. And I don't care how old you are now. You could be 104 listening to this show, and chances are you're going to see such rapid developments in AI during the remainder of your lifetime. That it's really going to improve your quality of life in a bunch of ways. At the same time, say you're a kid just getting ready to get out of school or you're in your 20s, 30s, 40s. Yeah, you're going to get a dose of both, right? You're going to get a lot of good stuff you can already get right now from AI, even these kind of relatively primitive chat boxes. And then at the same time, it's probably going to be harder for you to find certain jobs or less opportunity to advance, right? because of the impact AI is having on the workforce. And there are a lot of people feeling it right now. I was talking to somebody last night about this kid.
00:36:45
Speaker 1: He is a superstar.
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Speaker 5: I mean, he is the kind of kid who three years ago graduating college probably would have had 10 great job opportunities. Now, right now, he's sitting on one. And this is a kid you know is going to own the world at some point. But coming out of college right now in this age of AI disruption, he's got one job offer.
00:37:07
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you have your own stories to tell about that, right?
00:37:12
Speaker 5: Let's go down to beautiful Pueblo, Colorado.
00:37:14
Speaker 1: Talk to William. You're on The Dane Kaplan Show. Welcome.
00:37:17
Speaker 5: Oh, hey, William, hang on a second. I cut you short there. That's not at all fair. And we'll get William on the other side. But I'm going to play you some sound as well on the other side. And I know it's from this Mamdami guy out of New York. But he is one of the, if not the, major leader of the Democrats nationally now.
00:37:35
Speaker 1: And he was asked to define socialism.
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Speaker 5: And the answer he enthusiastically gave should scare you into action.
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Speaker 1: You're on the Dan Kaplan Show.
