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In this episode of the Rainmaker Podcast, Robert Morier sits down with James Curry and Andrew Brown of Dundas Global Investors, who share their insights into investment management, sales strategy, and the growth of the firm. James and Andrew, both experienced portfolio managers, explain how Dundas operates across three geographies: Australasia, the UK, and the US. They delve into the firm's unique sales approach, which leverages third-party distributors in Australia and the UK while shifting to a direct distribution model in the US after a key team member retired in 2022.
The conversation starts with a look at each guest's journey into the investment management world. James Curry’s background is rooted in agriculture, where he grew up on a farm, learning valuable skills like patience and resilience that would later serve him in investment management. He co-founded Dundas in 2010 with a focus on building a value-driven firm. Andrew Brown, on the other hand, joined Dundas in 2023 after 18 years at Aberdeen Asset Management, where he managed emerging and developed market portfolios. Andrew’s transition to Dundas was motivated by his desire to work in a smaller, more dynamic firm with ample growth potential.
As a boutique firm, Dundas focuses on long-term, sustainable relationships with clients. They use a hybrid distribution model, combining direct sales efforts with established third-party distributors in key markets. They prioritize servicing existing clients and strengthening relationships over aggressive prospecting. James and Andrew emphasize the importance of consistent engagement with clients and understanding their unique needs. They explain that their success doesn’t hinge on quick wins, but on building long-lasting partnerships where clients are aligned with their strategy.
A major theme of the episode is the firm’s commitment to disciplined, consistent communication. James and Andrew meet weekly to plan their business development efforts and assess their progress. They also host a business development committee every two weeks to share best practices and market feedback. This structure ensures everyone at Dundas is aligned in their goals and consistently moving toward them.
Finally, they offer advice for young professionals entering the industry: embrace learning, build relationships, and stay patient. They discuss how their team operates like a well-oiled machine, combining experience with a forward-thinking approach to distribution.
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