There Will Be Blood part 2

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Hey, Mr.
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Daniel Plainview, get some oil for me. HW's not hearing,
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and there is no place I'd want to go.
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Who's that supposed to be?
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That was supposed to be Jerry from In the Name
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of the Father.
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I think you got your voices scrambled there. Really? Yeah,
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I would look back into the... Dawg? There he is. Dawg?
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I want to show you something, da.
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No, Jer.
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Jer, you got to stop it. You're my son. No, da.
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I'm not doing it this time. I don't believe you, Jer. Anyways,
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that was for Kevin. Welcome back. We're talking about... We're
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talking about.
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From movie plots to vinyl spins. Every session more than friends.
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Eyes locked tight as the show begins. Electric vibes that
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never end. From underground films to favorite songs.
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That was an unintentional theme song for us. Oh, right.
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Like Hook, the Hook episodes, which were ruined by me
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playing the theme song a thousand times. Andy Juno texted me,
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this is the only time the podcast description has been accurate,
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because I wrote, I ruined the episode by accidentally playing
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the theme song multiple times. We're back. We're talking about.
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We've been back for like nine minutes.
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It's been 190 seconds right now. Ryan, what movie are
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we talking about?
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There Will Be Blood.
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There Will Be Blood. And this is about....
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An oil man.
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An oil man. I'm an oil man. And we're here
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with my brother-in-law. My only brother. Well, actually, Brian's a brother-in-law,
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but my only brother. And he has hair as black
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as oil. And his name is Mr. Kevin DiPietri.
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Hello again.
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How you doing?
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Couldn't be better.
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We're still doing this movie. Yeah. And where we left off....
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Was post-explosion.
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Post-explosion.
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Yeah.
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Yup.
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And they... So, I don't understand how they fixed this,
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but the wooden oil derrick caught on fire and, like, collapsed.
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And they just, like, blow it up?
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I think they blow it up to bury it.
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To bury it.
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That oil rig is done.
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Sorry for that, ladies and gents. We were talking about... So,
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they blew up the well to bury the fire to
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put it out. And they're just going to build, like,
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another oil derrick on the same land because there's oil everywhere. So... Daniel,
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so this is like, I defend Daniel's parenting. He clearly
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does love H.W. He's spooning H.W.
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In bed. To the degree that he's capable, H.W. is
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the most important person to him.
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But you don't, like, if you're Daniel, you don't spoon
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a human in bed. Unless you absolutely love them.
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I think it's a natural instinct to, like, you see
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an injured child... like that has nobody, you know, like
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it's a very innate, I'm sure it was outside of
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his control almost, you know, like I, you know, it
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just felt like a, this is what I have to
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do right now.
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I have no, do you wonder like later they talk
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about how like taking on HW was a marketing scheme,
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if you will.
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Yes.
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The work to keep that marketing scheme.
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Alive.
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Is so much.
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It had its own reward.
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Yeah.
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Well, so I don't believe that it was fully only
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for marketing purposes.
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I agree completely.
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But even if it truly was, It's so much time.
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You can't raise a child, unless you're a true serial killer,
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you can't raise a child and have no love for them.
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I think, like, that's the whole thing. I wonder if, like,
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if he thought, like, originally, like, Oh, if I have
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a baby, people, like, I will be in it.
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I think it's okay to be, like, to have, like,
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mixed feelings. It doesn't have to be, like, all the way... Correct.
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This kid's, for business purposes, all the way, I'm going
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to take care of this kid because I'm a good person. It's, like,
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those things kind of, like, crisscrossed a little bit. And
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now this kid's horribly injured because of the situation he
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was put in by me. Yeah, exactly. Like, what's the
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least I should be doing here?
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But I feel like what Tim is saying is a
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good point where, like, you... that shit will seep into you.
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Like you can't like, you can't nurture this kid and not,
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it will just kind of force you to love it
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because this thing needs you.
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And I think like on a sliding scale and it
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could be a different numbers on different days, but if
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one is HW is only for business purposes and 10
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is HW is only here because I love him as
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my true son. I think honestly that he was like
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an eight.
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I really do as a parent.
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Yeah.
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Um, again, as an, as a guy who's digging oil
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rigs that like, you know, is taking care of a
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child that's not even his, like he's, he's, he's, I would,
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I couldn't argue with like being, you know, above a six.
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And I'm also, I'm not trying to demean orphans or
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adopted children, but I don't think like a lot of
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things come natural when it's your biological child.
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Yeah.
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And the fact that he's doing this for a non-biological child,
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I think he does care.
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But also like, We'll get to it later, but I
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feel like that gives him a permission slip to discard
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him later.
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Sure.
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Well, you never belong to me, so.
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Well, I think we'll get there.
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It's convenient.
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Actually, sorry, go ahead.
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Well, H.W. is laying in bed and just going... Because
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I've never lost my hearing, but he's just going.
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He's making noises to try to see if he can
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hear himself.
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This is fucking soul-crushing.
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And Daniel's saying, like, be quiet, H.W.
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It is the worst case scenario to some extent. I mean,
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it's just about the worst case scenario as a parent.
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It's awful to watch this.
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It's so bad. He has a doctor come and check him,
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and H.W. is so confused. He can't hear. He hasn't
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communicated with anybody in days. And Daniel asks to get
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a teacher for H.W. Now, we're talking about a deaf
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human in 1911?
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Yeah.
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So imagine, so Daniel eventually has, like, unlimited resources.
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At this point, has unlimited resources. Really?
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Yeah, you're right. But even later, he gets even more
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unlimited resources. But even now, like, H.W. is in the
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best position to be deaf.
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Oh, globally. Yes, globally. Yes, he is the luckiest newly
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deaf child on the globe.
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So, like, in rural China in 1911, if you're deaf,
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do they just, like, leave you in the woods?
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If you're lucky. If you're lucky.
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Right, right. So, Eli comes down at this point. Bad timing.
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Daniel's working. Eli comes down and says, When do we
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get our money, Daniel? You owe me $ 5, 000. And I'm
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totally on Daniel's side in this scene.
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I wrote my note for this. Do you think Daniel
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is really this mad at Eli? Is this an act?
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I don't think it's an act, but I don't think
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he's this mad at Eli.
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Okay.
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I think that he's so mad that H.W. is deaf
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because he's a parent, and that's terrible as a parent,
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and he doesn't know what to do, and he's really angry.
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And then Eli, who makes a mockery of human injury
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by doing faith healing, comes down and says, you need
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to give me money. This is obviously not the same context,
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but it's like when Maury is like, Jimmy, where's my money?
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Where's my money, Jimmy? And it's just like, Maury, this
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is not a good decision right now.
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No, and I think.
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Worst thing I've ever said I think Daniel Plainview at
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that point had probably already processed in his mind like
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next time I see this fucking prick you know what
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I mean he better not be coming in a confrontational
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mood with me or I thought I guess it's the
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same thing where it's like the timing the timing just
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was not good this just happened to my son and
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you're marching down here to confront me about something when
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yours your end of the bar it's like okay this
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is a perfect example of there is no god that
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this happened to this perfectly innocent boy i.
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Wonder though i'm curious because like what is he after
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that guy dies eli is like well this is an
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unblessed wealth not a shock that someone died right correct
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then this happens.
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Which is infuriating infuriating but eli comes down there and
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i wonder this man died because i didn't allow eli
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to bless a well fuck that so.
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Then when he walks down here you can just like
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you can you can like again this movie's so good
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when Eli's just walking and they always show you in
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a wide shot you can just feel Daniel staring him
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down you just you know where this is gonna go
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but I'm just so fascinated cause the idea of like
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is now Daniel kind of buying into this in a
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weird way where like like oh he didn't bless.
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This all of this bad shit is happening god.
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No I'm not saying he believes it, but like, oh, fuck,
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because this didn't happen, this shit is happening.
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Well, it's the whole karma thing. It's like, did I
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screw myself here? It's like, no, I know I didn't.
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You know, I know this is just, again, an act
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of God type situation.
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It's exactly what Kevin said in the last episode. It's like, okay,
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you're a shaman in a village from a thousand years ago,
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and it rains. Okay, it rains because I'm the shaman.
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It doesn't rain.
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Okay.
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It didn't rain because you guys failed.
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Yeah.
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So, um, he, he says, Eli says, you owe the
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church of revelation $ 5, 000, which again is like $ 150, 000. Wait
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a sec.
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Which is again, true.
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He made the deal.
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Yes. He welches on that deal. He said he was
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going to give him $ 5, 000 a year or two ago.
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And that money is not, nothing's happened.
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And really angry Daniel. when he completely freaks out, I love,
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he goes, ooh! And then he grabs Eli, he starts
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slapping him, and he drags Eli by the hair, he
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throws him in a mud pit, he sits, much like
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Dark Knight Returns, he sits on him, he's slapping him.
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This was really his first physical acting that he did.
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Yeah.
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Right? In terms of like, you know, being like in
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your face as like it was the first time he
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I don't know he he was out of character for himself.
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Random if you like if you ever wanted to deep
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dive Daniel Day-Lewis I'm not saying you have to watch
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this but there's a movie that takes place in Belfast
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called The Boxer and Daniel Day-Lewis plays a professional boxer
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living in Belfast and it's pretty good um but when
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you're talking about him being physical anyways so uh he
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just totally degrades him embarrasses him mocks him in front
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of everyone, in the mud, sitting on him.
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He big brothers him. He's mushing his face in the mud,
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you know, and kind of just, like, messing up his
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hair and just making him, like, showing him, like, you know,
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you're nothing.
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And this is a time when you didn't talk about feelings,
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you didn't confront one another. It cuts to Eli's Sunday family, like,
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that's his last name, eating dinner. And they're all just
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eating dinner silently, and Eli's Covered in mud.
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I love his dried dirt. And he's just sitting there.
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I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I remember when this,
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when this scene started, I just realized again, Eli must
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have been a nightmare son to deal with. Oh, yeah.
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He says to his father, you were a stupid man, Abel.
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In front of his sisters and mom.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, like, you let this man swindle us. He didn't
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pay us the money. And he gets so angry, he
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ends up attacking his father. And he says.
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He was a weak old man.
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Yes. And he said, and Eli is saying to the father...
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Paul told him, Paul told Daniel about this, meaning his
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twin brother, which is correct. Um, big transition at this point,
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a man named Henry comes to visit Daniel and Ryan,
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what does, what does Henry say?
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Henry tells him that he's learned of his success and
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that he is his brother. Um, And he explains a
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little bit of their heritage, like their mom.
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Why do they keep talking about Fond du Lac? And
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Daniel introduces him. This is Henry from Fond du Lac.
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Weird.
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Yeah.
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You should say, like, this is my brother.
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Because, again, I guess rightfully so. From the beginning, he
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doesn't trust it. And then as we go through, it
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gets a little bit trusting, but not. But this is
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played by Kevin J. O'Connor. People know from The Mummy.
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Probably the most famously known role of him.
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What else was he in?
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He's been in a ton of stuff.
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Is he a tombstone?
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No, I don't think so.
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Is he not?
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I don't think so.
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Was he like a weakling in one of those western movies? Yeah,
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I forget whether it was.
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But he's... It's again like... Paul Thomas Anderson is so
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good at being like... Finding people that you have seen
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before but not this way.
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Yeah.
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And he did such a.
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He was the second lead in the movie.
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He was so good in this.
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Oh, he was scary good. Actually, the oldest trick in
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the book, I'm sure, is when you're going to meet
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somebody who you're going to tell them you're related to,
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is you try to model the way you look as
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the way you think they look.
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That shot of the two of them staring at me,
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both with.
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The same mustache. Yeah, the same mustache. Well, it's like, again,
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it's like, because you would look at somebody and say, oh,
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without the mustache, Skylook's nothing like me. With the mustache, oh,
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my goodness, I actually see it.
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I was going to say that I thought I was wrong,
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but I was right. I should have said it. He
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plays Igor in Van Helsing.
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What else you got?
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He was in G.I.
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Joe. A lot of Stephen Sommers work.
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Deep Rising.
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That's right.
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Love Deep Rising. Did you ever see Deep Rising?
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I just watched it this summer. No pun intended.
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Treat Williams, Famke Jensen, Anthony Heald.
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Let's cancel this one and just do Deep Rising.
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It's a fun movie.
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Done.
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Let's see what else he's been in. The Master, okay.
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Yes.
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Television, but anyways.
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Oh, Law and Order, yes. He's in.
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71.
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71, New York.
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So Henry is... He says, do you have an ID?
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Henry shows him a letter from... Do I have this letter?
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Daniel's family.
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This is the most interesting thing that's happened to Daniel
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in 20 years.
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Daniel just does not know what to do with HW
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at this point so he pours him a glass of
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milk and puts a lot.
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When they're pouring this I'm just like I'm like Daniel
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is just like trying to isolate like just isolate him
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and just put him away yeah I'm shelving you.
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I'm gonna get you hey it works for me getting
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drunk so he's like I'm gonna force you to drink
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a pint of milk that's like half a pint of whiskey.
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I don't have the the wherewithal the know-how to deal
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with this I have the emotional depth to do this.
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And also like That's kind of fair. Me as a
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father in this scenario in 1911 would not be helpful.
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I would not know what to do.
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I couldn't imagine what they do.
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So then he goes back to talking to Henry. Henry,
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what do you want? And then Henry says, nothing. Well,
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I want to work. And he's like, just speak straight
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to me. I don't want you to say I want nothing.
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And then say you want to work. Those are two
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different things. And they're drinking whiskey. And he starts asking Daniel, like,
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so what happened with your life? And Daniel says, I
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don't like to explain myself, which I wish I could
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just say that.
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Sure. No, but I mean, you know what? You don't
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want to have that conversation. This guy just showed up. Like,
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you know, I have to tell you everything about how
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I got here, and you're just showing him my doorstep? Like,
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that's reasonable.
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He says, I have a competition in me, Henry. I
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want no one else to succeed. I hate most people.
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There are times I look and people... There are times
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I look at people and see nothing worth liking. I
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want to earn enough money to get away from people.
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That is the most relatable statement in the history of film.
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Plus, also, here's the funniest part. This guy doesn't trust,
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confides his entire soul.
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That's what's so crazy. That's what I mean when I
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said this is the most interesting thing to happen to
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Daniel in 20 years. is someone showing up that's telling
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you that I'm your relative.
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This is the most interesting.
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He tells you exactly what he feels.
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Because he doesn't know Henry, but Henry's the only person
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that it would even make sense to confide in.
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Right. There's nobody else. This guy moved himself from complete
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didn't even know you existed to you're the most important
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person in my entire world right now, which comes up
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later on too.
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Henry says, what's your plan with the boy? And he says,
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I don't know. And then Henry says, where is the
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boy's mother? And he says, I don't want to talk
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about these things.
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I love.
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Can I give you this line? This is just... I
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think it's an educational issue at the time. Maybe he
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can change. Does your... Does your sound come back to you?
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He goes, nobody knows. Doctors don't even know. And I thought, Trump.
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That's a total Trump line. Nobody knows.
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At that point, did people know?
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Yes. The doctor that came out.
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I didn't know you were done.
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The doctor that came out to visit that looked in
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his ears was like.
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He's fucked. This is over.
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So he... Triple... The DDL... Definite Trump supporter. Of course.
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Henry Plainview? Oh, sorry. Henry Plainview. Daniel Plainview? Oh, absolutely
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Trump supporter. Are you kidding me? And he says, I
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see the worst in people, Henry. Seeing you here gives
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me a breath of life.
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Uh-oh.
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Uh-oh. Right. We're immediately besties with this stranger that showed
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up with a picture.
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This is also a big trailer scene, too.
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This scene.
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And then H.W.
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The thing is, just this whole movie, you go like, this...
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This is not going to work out, but it's probably
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really not going to work out.
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You're watching the train wreck happen.
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Yeah, there's a lot of movies like that.
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This can't just go, like, not so great. This can
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only go horribly.
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This is only going horribly.
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Where does it go, is the question.
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You're like, is H.W. going to die? Like, what is happening?
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And he says, oh, sorry. So at this point, Henry
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and Daniel are sleeping in the same room. So obviously,
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even at this point, Henry trusts him. Because Kieran Hines.
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You mean Daniel trusts Henry.
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Sorry, yeah. Daniel trusts Henry. Because Kieran Hines is a
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really important right-hand man and he trusts him. But it's
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not really appropriate to talk to your business right-hand man
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about your deepest thoughts. And he has no one to
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confide in. He has no friends. So seeing the opportunity
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of maybe having a brother... He thinks, oh, this could
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be really nice.
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This is the historical context of DDL's life that's been missing.
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There's nobody there that has had shared experiences with him
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for the first 25 years of his life, except now
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this guy's here. And it's like, all right, hey, we
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share some of the same DNA, whatever. Who knows? I
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forget which side they were on, father, mother. But this
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is someone who I've got a deeper relationship with, bond with,
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or whatever, than.
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The fact that there's such a big... The second time,
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I thought, is H.W. also being like, fucking don't trust
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this thing.
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I give it 100% credit. I mean, H.W. didn't make
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any wrong moves in.
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The whole movie.
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That's a very good point.
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He really didn't.
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No. And it's like, that is like, he sniffed this
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guy out before Daniel did.
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Now, I'm going to defend Daniel again. So the next scene,
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Daniel and H.W. are on the train.
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H.W.
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Has no idea why, because he can't communicate. And Daniel
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is just motioning, like, sit here. I am talking to
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the conductor. Sit here. I will be right back.
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This is the day, H.W. lit a fire the next
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day they're on a train.
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Yes.
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Father and son train ride. To We Don't Know Where,
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Sunday Best.
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Yeah, you've done those.
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Absolutely.
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Train Ride to Don't Know Where. They're like, wait a minute,
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is he abandoning me? And in the middle, they start
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to take off and Daniel just runs off the train.
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And then his goons, including Kieran Hines, stay on the
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train and H.W. realizes, oh, he's abandoning me.
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Abandoning is the wrong word. I agree.
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No, so I agree that What does Daniel do? Daniel
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uses his money to send H.W.
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To a deaf school in San Francisco in 1911. The
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best goddamn school money can buy.
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In 1911 for deaf children?
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100%.
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As opposed to what? As opposed to what? He stays
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in the oil camp and never does anything?
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No, this was super, the best case scenario.
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This is why it's tough for Daniel, which is why
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he lies and abandons him on the train. It's so
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hard for Daniel to do it, but it's the right thing.
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Call there was no way to communicate hey listen tough
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thing about the deafness but we're gonna send you to
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san francisco you're gonna be fine when you wrap that
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up in five years you'll come right back.
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Here but it's fascinating because like he leaves him with
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like the best guy he knows here yeah.
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For sure but also you're like because you wouldn't leave
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it to anybody else.
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He just wants his dad that's the hard part right
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he he doesn't go sadly i'm not your dad and
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that's not an option but also that he doesn't know
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that but the idea is like when they're trained together, H.W.
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is so happy because I think he's like, oh, we're
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leaving this terrible place that.
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Hurt us all. H.W., that was a misread.
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Now, don't get me wrong, like, I'm not running a
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multi-million dollar business, but if it were me and it
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was CeCe, I would be on the train with CeCe
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to San Francisco. You would be on the train with
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Emily or Juliet.
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Sure. Sure, Meg would definitely be on the train.
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But, okay, if Meg wasn't, you would.
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Yeah.
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If Meg was dead.
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But, um, This is a tough scene to watch. It
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really is tough.
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And she was murdered by Francis Dollar Hyde and put
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mirrors in her eyes.
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Well, let's do it.
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That's a weird reach.
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Hey, you landed in Maryland. Sorry.
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So he goes to the next meeting and he says,
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this is my brother, Henry Plainview from Fond du Lac.
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I was like, weird.
499
00:22:25.339 --> 00:22:28.859
So Henry's now the new HW. And they offer Daniel $ 150, 000
500
00:22:28.759 --> 00:22:36.059
for land. Coyote Hills. So $ 150, 000 in today's money is
501
00:22:36.059 --> 00:22:36.339
$ 5 million.
502
00:22:36.420 --> 00:22:42.019
Okay. And just to explain this transaction. Good. So who
503
00:22:42.059 --> 00:22:43.960
was he meeting with at this point? It wasn't Standard Oil.
504
00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:44.920
I thought it was Standard Oil.
505
00:22:44.940 --> 00:22:46.859
Oh, okay. No, he made the deal with Standard Oil. Yeah,
506
00:22:46.880 --> 00:22:47.559
that's what he made the deal with.
507
00:22:47.579 --> 00:22:48.200
Was it Union or something?
508
00:22:48.220 --> 00:22:51.119
Yeah, this was Union or whatever. This was the group
509
00:22:51.160 --> 00:22:53.809
he didn't like. Yes. They requested a meeting with him.
510
00:22:53.829 --> 00:22:55.029
He goes and sits down.
511
00:22:55.049 --> 00:22:56.130
Because he kept throwing HW in his face.
512
00:22:56.170 --> 00:22:59.029
Yeah, he goes and sits down with them, and they go, listen,
513
00:22:59.049 --> 00:23:02.509
we want to talk business. He's like, They start asking
514
00:23:02.529 --> 00:23:05.309
about HW. He's like, okay, moving right along. What did
515
00:23:05.329 --> 00:23:07.329
you want to talk about? They're like, well, the first
516
00:23:07.369 --> 00:23:09.329
thing is we want to buy Coyote Hills. He's like,
517
00:23:09.369 --> 00:23:13.059
what's the price on that? They go $ 150, 000. He goes, okay,
518
00:23:13.170 --> 00:23:14.690
that's sold. Done deal.
519
00:23:14.930 --> 00:23:15.170
Deal.
520
00:23:15.740 --> 00:23:17.980
What's the next thing you wanted to talk about? Which
521
00:23:18.059 --> 00:23:19.940
if you're the viewer, you go, okay, Coyote Hills is
522
00:23:19.960 --> 00:23:24.279
a complete dry piece of shit. Yes. Ghost land desert
523
00:23:24.319 --> 00:23:26.299
right now that I just sold for $ 6 million.
524
00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:28.519
So you know he knows more than them.
525
00:23:28.779 --> 00:23:31.039
Oh, hell yeah. Well, he tells them in that meeting,
526
00:23:31.299 --> 00:23:33.440
go scratching around in the dirt like the rest of us.
527
00:23:33.779 --> 00:23:35.759
You know, do it at Coyote Hills, actually. It's a
528
00:23:35.779 --> 00:23:38.319
great place to start. I actually drained the swamp there,
529
00:23:38.519 --> 00:23:42.569
and best of luck to you, yeah. Great transaction. One
530
00:23:42.589 --> 00:23:43.789
of the best. One of the best.
531
00:23:43.849 --> 00:23:45.720
And they go, well, no, go ahead, Brian.
532
00:23:46.130 --> 00:23:48.970
When they're like, well, I mean, you have a proven
533
00:23:48.990 --> 00:23:50.269
well in this area. And he's like, no, I have
534
00:23:50.410 --> 00:23:51.829
three proven wells. And he just goes.
535
00:23:52.670 --> 00:23:56.559
Three. Three. That's a big... difference order of magnitude wise.
536
00:23:56.599 --> 00:23:58.700
Like that's, yeah, look right.
537
00:23:58.720 --> 00:24:01.799
And look, yeah, he's, they go, listen, Daniel, why don't
538
00:24:01.819 --> 00:24:04.460
you just, why keep fighting and doing all this? Just
539
00:24:04.529 --> 00:24:06.950
take the money, take care of your boy. You know,
540
00:24:07.089 --> 00:24:08.950
like all you should care about is your boy right now.
541
00:24:08.990 --> 00:24:10.369
I know he's in trouble. You should take care of
542
00:24:10.390 --> 00:24:13.549
your boy. And, uh, this is my biggest takeaway from
543
00:24:13.609 --> 00:24:16.170
seeing it in the theater. He gets up and he says,
544
00:24:16.619 --> 00:24:18.579
one night I will come into your house while you
545
00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:19.900
were sleeping and I will.
546
00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:20.400
Cut your throat.
547
00:24:20.660 --> 00:24:21.660
And they're like, What?
548
00:24:21.759 --> 00:24:22.079
What?
549
00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:22.819
Whoa.
550
00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:27.559
Also, love when you watch this now, the visuals, including Henry.
551
00:24:28.539 --> 00:24:31.829
Daniel's wearing the brown worn suit, the brown hat. He
552
00:24:31.849 --> 00:24:34.509
looks like he has 50,000 miles of bad road in
553
00:24:34.549 --> 00:24:38.470
his face, soon to be 400 miles. You see these guys.
554
00:24:38.490 --> 00:24:39.930
And his hat is soaked in sweat.
555
00:24:40.089 --> 00:24:44.450
It's so browned and just dirty. Then you see these
556
00:24:44.470 --> 00:24:48.170
guys are all in black suits, white shirts, very clean. Again,
557
00:24:48.650 --> 00:24:52.359
Henry is kind of between. And the visuals are all
558
00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:55.809
just telling you, I've earned this spot, you three have
559
00:24:55.849 --> 00:24:56.440
done nothing.
560
00:24:56.569 --> 00:24:58.250
Correct. That's a really good point. That's the whole point.
561
00:24:58.650 --> 00:25:00.990
That's a really good point. These guys are businessmen.
562
00:25:01.009 --> 00:25:01.190
Yeah.
563
00:25:01.450 --> 00:25:03.289
They haven't been inside an oil pit.
564
00:25:04.230 --> 00:25:04.430
Yeah.
565
00:25:04.829 --> 00:25:08.130
Where Daniel is like, he is in the trenches.
566
00:25:08.250 --> 00:25:09.329
I've done both.
567
00:25:09.369 --> 00:25:12.930
He left the trench to attend this meeting to sell
568
00:25:12.970 --> 00:25:15.559
you this dry swamp, you know, this dry... Oh, no.
569
00:25:18.420 --> 00:25:20.880
All right, we had some technical difficulties, but we're back
570
00:25:20.940 --> 00:25:24.900
with a vengeance. So where we left off is he
571
00:25:24.940 --> 00:25:27.240
goes and talks to Al and says, why don't I
572
00:25:27.339 --> 00:25:30.440
own this? Al says, this is the Bandy's tract. I
573
00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:32.869
told you to buy this. He wanted to come talk
574
00:25:32.910 --> 00:25:35.809
to you. You said no. Can you build the pipeline
575
00:25:35.849 --> 00:25:38.250
around it? And he says, can I build around 50
576
00:25:38.250 --> 00:25:41.349
miles of Apache Mountains, Al? Don't be thick with me, Al.
577
00:25:42.490 --> 00:25:44.430
And he goes to talk to Bandy. Bandy's not there.
578
00:25:44.529 --> 00:25:45.930
His hot grandson is there.
579
00:25:47.490 --> 00:25:50.190
Wait, but in the real estate agent scene, he was
580
00:25:50.630 --> 00:25:54.509
none too pleased with his real estate agent at that point. Al. Yeah.
581
00:25:54.569 --> 00:25:57.309
Don't be thick with me, Al. But Al definitely did
582
00:25:57.349 --> 00:25:59.329
nothing wrong and told him to talk to Bandy.
583
00:25:59.990 --> 00:26:00.470
For years.
584
00:26:01.009 --> 00:26:08.180
Yes, but also as your counselor and trusted advisor, did
585
00:26:08.220 --> 00:26:10.180
you tell me twice or just the one time when
586
00:26:10.220 --> 00:26:11.539
I was doing a bunch of other shit?
587
00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:12.440
Fair.
588
00:26:13.059 --> 00:26:15.710
You couldn't have circled back on this? If this leads
589
00:26:15.730 --> 00:26:16.750
to the goddamn ocean.
590
00:26:16.910 --> 00:26:19.509
But also, like, Daniel is doing well. It's probably like
591
00:26:19.529 --> 00:26:21.809
he doesn't give a shit about this. That was my theory.
592
00:26:21.829 --> 00:26:24.130
But that's it. Now you've got people working for you
593
00:26:24.170 --> 00:26:25.569
that are less efficient than you are.
594
00:26:25.869 --> 00:26:29.109
But also, like, Daniel's only acknowledging this area and now
595
00:26:29.230 --> 00:26:30.630
there's a threat to it. That's why.
596
00:26:30.650 --> 00:26:30.750
Yeah.
597
00:26:31.869 --> 00:26:36.819
Daniel then goes to the ocean with Henry. They're swimming,
598
00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:41.900
which seems so strange. Just like happiness, ocean. They get
599
00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:45.009
out and they're sitting on the beach. Henry's chillin'. Daniel
600
00:26:45.029 --> 00:26:49.190
seems really happy and they're talking about Henry's like, why
601
00:26:49.230 --> 00:26:51.069
don't we get some liquor and women?
602
00:26:52.210 --> 00:26:57.160
And he's in, Daniel's getting nostalgic. Henry is shutting down
603
00:26:57.220 --> 00:27:01.119
the nostalgia and talking about liquor and women. Daniel brings
604
00:27:01.160 --> 00:27:03.359
it back to the nostalgia of the youth that they
605
00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:08.410
shared together. Air quotes. And, uh, And he's not getting
606
00:27:08.470 --> 00:27:13.079
any bites on his chum that he's throwing.
607
00:27:13.299 --> 00:27:17.140
Daniel saying air quotes would be great. I would love that.
608
00:27:17.660 --> 00:27:18.559
And then they kiss.
609
00:27:20.900 --> 00:27:24.140
No. You know I'd love a smooch between.
610
00:27:23.660 --> 00:27:26.940
You and I. Yeah, a brother smooch. And then Daniel
611
00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:31.069
drops what he considers to be the nuclear bomb of
612
00:27:32.210 --> 00:27:35.430
things that we should both have a shared memory of
613
00:27:35.950 --> 00:27:41.640
that unequivocally connects us to the level at which I'm
614
00:27:42.900 --> 00:27:46.839
rating this relationship right now is we can get some
615
00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:48.829
women get them liquored up and take them to the
616
00:27:48.869 --> 00:27:52.809
Petrie dance and his brother the Petrie dance the Petrie
617
00:27:52.829 --> 00:27:56.710
dance his air quotes brother has no god damn idea
618
00:27:56.730 --> 00:27:59.789
what he's talking about and doesn't even give him yeah
619
00:27:59.829 --> 00:28:01.690
he doesn't even give him a head nod on this
620
00:28:01.789 --> 00:28:07.200
idea and then they go out Henry is beyond annihilated
621
00:28:08.150 --> 00:28:13.910
Daniel Day-Lewis realizes this guy's a fake. It's likely that
622
00:28:13.950 --> 00:28:15.430
this guy's going to have to be dealt with.
623
00:28:15.930 --> 00:28:18.829
And Henry comes up to Daniel and is like, Daniel,
624
00:28:18.849 --> 00:28:20.170
can I have some money? Can I have some money?
625
00:28:22.009 --> 00:28:23.869
And what we talked about in the part of this
626
00:28:23.910 --> 00:28:28.210
podcast that just got deleted, I was like, well, even
627
00:28:28.230 --> 00:28:30.869
though cocaine and hookers is not a plan, at least
628
00:28:30.930 --> 00:28:34.269
it's better than nothing. Daniel just wants to get money
629
00:28:34.309 --> 00:28:35.549
to do nothing.
630
00:28:36.069 --> 00:28:36.730
Just to have it.
631
00:28:36.910 --> 00:28:38.839
Yeah, Henry was definitely on the fun committee.
632
00:28:39.180 --> 00:28:39.440
Yes.
633
00:28:40.299 --> 00:28:40.559
Yes.
634
00:28:40.819 --> 00:28:45.740
So Daniel is furious when Henry asks for money. And
635
00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:49.880
they're going camping on the bandit track. Henry wakes up
636
00:28:50.539 --> 00:28:53.539
and Daniel has a very small caliber gun pointed at him.
637
00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:55.859
And he says, what is the name of the farm
638
00:28:56.359 --> 00:29:00.460
next to the hill house? And Henry says, I'll just leave.
639
00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:03.680
I just want to confirm our shared dynamic.
640
00:29:04.019 --> 00:29:04.279
Yes.
641
00:29:04.819 --> 00:29:05.839
What is the name of the farm next to the
642
00:29:05.859 --> 00:29:06.160
hill house?
643
00:29:06.180 --> 00:29:06.440
And he goes.
644
00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:10.119
I'll just leave, Daniel, which is obviously a red flag.
645
00:29:10.819 --> 00:29:14.740
I'll just leave, I'm sorry. And he confesses basically like,
646
00:29:15.900 --> 00:29:18.109
I met a guy, he said he was your brother,
647
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:21.210
he died of tuberculosis, he gave me his diary, I
648
00:29:21.470 --> 00:29:24.170
memorized it, and I pretended I was your brother. But
649
00:29:24.190 --> 00:29:29.690
he's like, I'm your friend, and I really like being here,
650
00:29:29.730 --> 00:29:31.279
but if you want me to leave, I will go.
651
00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:37.059
And before he's really even finished... Daniel is so angry,
652
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:38.180
he just shoots him in the head.
653
00:29:39.589 --> 00:29:42.549
Yeah. I mean, I think again, that guy, I think
654
00:29:42.589 --> 00:29:44.130
he misread the situation.
655
00:29:44.630 --> 00:29:45.089
Henry did.
656
00:29:45.210 --> 00:29:51.200
Henry did. Yeah, exactly. Um, like, The I'm your friend thing,
657
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:53.500
it's like, I don't think Daniel Day-Lewis wasn't looking for
658
00:29:53.539 --> 00:29:56.779
a friend at that point. I think he kind of was. No,
659
00:29:56.799 --> 00:30:00.420
but you came into this as we have a shared
660
00:30:02.369 --> 00:30:03.710
bloodline history.
661
00:30:03.730 --> 00:30:05.529
He wasn't actually looking for a friend. He was happy
662
00:30:05.549 --> 00:30:05.990
to have one.
663
00:30:06.190 --> 00:30:09.789
Yeah, sure, sure. But it's also, this guy also was
664
00:30:09.890 --> 00:30:13.650
bloodline at that point. He inserted himself as, you're my
665
00:30:13.930 --> 00:30:17.150
blood brother or whatever. And then fast forward to a
666
00:30:17.250 --> 00:30:20.259
month later, I realize you're a phony. And you tailored
667
00:30:20.299 --> 00:30:22.940
yourself to the image of a guy that you met
668
00:30:22.980 --> 00:30:26.140
on the train just to, you know, endear yourself to
669
00:30:26.180 --> 00:30:29.460
some rich whatever, you know, oil man or whatever.
670
00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:33.079
And also you're positing as like, well, you should be
671
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:36.380
happy to have me because I'm at least someone. And
672
00:30:36.420 --> 00:30:37.579
that's even more insulting.
673
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:39.559
Yeah. Yeah, so.
674
00:30:39.769 --> 00:30:42.329
Now, since you deleted over the entire Midsommar reference, I
675
00:30:42.349 --> 00:30:43.740
feel like we can't go back to that, even though
676
00:30:43.769 --> 00:30:45.140
I'm sure that's what everybody wants to hear.
677
00:30:46.109 --> 00:30:48.930
Oh, yeah, like when keeping it real goes wrong. Cause
678
00:30:48.970 --> 00:30:52.450
you brought up how the British couple, when the elderly
679
00:30:52.490 --> 00:30:56.009
couple jumps off and commits suicide, the British couple is like,
680
00:30:56.150 --> 00:30:59.299
it's wrong that your society does this. You're wrong.
681
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:01.420
I texted you about that right away. And I was like, man,
682
00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:03.279
I was like these two people, if you're in that
683
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:07.200
cult mindset, if someone's asking about the Petri dance or
684
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:10.269
the jump off the cliff ritual at 72, you go,
685
00:31:10.450 --> 00:31:13.099
Oh my God, that, God, I love this. This is
686
00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:15.539
so great. The Petri dance was a blast.
687
00:31:15.579 --> 00:31:16.700
Yeah, they completed their cycle.
688
00:31:16.900 --> 00:31:19.980
Yeah, I think Wu-Tang was performing there the year that
689
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:22.700
I saw it. And then as far as the jumping
690
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:25.720
off the cliff thing, you go, wow, I'm 22, so yeah,
691
00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:28.349
in 50 years, I'm right off that cliff. I'm doing
692
00:31:28.380 --> 00:31:29.849
a cartwheel off that thing, you know?
693
00:31:30.369 --> 00:31:32.289
And then you wait until Daniel goes to sleep and
694
00:31:32.309 --> 00:31:35.170
you fucking leave. Yeah, yeah.
695
00:31:35.230 --> 00:31:37.849
You tell him, yeah, Petri dance was dope. We had
696
00:31:37.890 --> 00:31:42.180
a blast at that. I probably need to I probably
697
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:43.700
need to remove myself from the situation.
698
00:31:43.859 --> 00:31:48.660
In a very graphic, small-caliber bullet brain death, he's like...
699
00:31:48.539 --> 00:31:51.230
So slow. He doesn't just get his brain blown out
700
00:31:51.250 --> 00:31:54.109
and die like in every other movie. It's just like a.
701
00:31:54.089 --> 00:31:57.109
22 or like a Derringer, and it gets lodged in
702
00:31:57.130 --> 00:31:59.210
his brain. He's just kind of jerking, going like....
703
00:32:00.630 --> 00:32:02.690
That was the kind of gun that will get the
704
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:05.500
job done if you have to do something in a pinch. Yes.
705
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:09.589
Not exactly a Clint Eastwood-type gun. Not a mercy kill.
706
00:32:09.670 --> 00:32:11.789
It makes very little sound.
707
00:32:12.049 --> 00:32:12.710
Yeah.
708
00:32:12.750 --> 00:32:16.210
Not a lot of power. Yeah, that was the most difficult,
709
00:32:16.390 --> 00:32:18.769
low-caliber gun death of all time.
710
00:32:19.650 --> 00:32:23.289
And Daniel wakes up. So he actually gets the diary
711
00:32:23.890 --> 00:32:27.579
written by his actual brother, reads it drinking, and sobs.
712
00:32:28.190 --> 00:32:32.579
Then he is woken up very hungover. Like, more hungover
713
00:32:32.619 --> 00:32:33.380
than we've ever been.
714
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:35.220
Was he hungover there or just drunk?
715
00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:37.000
He looks like shit.
716
00:32:37.019 --> 00:32:37.359
He looks terrible.
717
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:40.220
This counts as being woken up on the ground.
718
00:32:40.339 --> 00:32:40.640
Yes.
719
00:32:41.019 --> 00:32:44.559
And it's Bandy. And he tries to give the whole, hey,
720
00:32:44.980 --> 00:32:47.549
I'm going to hunt quail here. And Bandy is like, no,
721
00:32:47.589 --> 00:32:49.769
I know everything. You want to build a pipeline through
722
00:32:49.789 --> 00:32:52.829
my land? I want you to go to church. Daniel says,
723
00:32:52.869 --> 00:32:53.269
I'll give you.
724
00:32:53.190 --> 00:32:53.490
$ 2, 500.
725
00:32:53.289 --> 00:32:56.630
And he goes, nope, I want you to go to church.
726
00:32:56.710 --> 00:32:59.569
And Daniel says, I'll give you $ 5, 000, which is $ 170, 000.
727
00:32:59.250 --> 00:33:04.220
In today's dollars. In today's dollars. And Bandy says, no,
728
00:33:04.259 --> 00:33:05.640
I want you to go to church. And Ryan made
729
00:33:05.660 --> 00:33:08.619
this point earlier. Bandy's a true believer and Eli is not.
730
00:33:09.460 --> 00:33:13.759
Bandy is not just saying things. And he goes, well,
731
00:33:13.779 --> 00:33:15.259
what do you want me to confess to church? That
732
00:33:15.299 --> 00:33:17.599
I'm an oil man? And then Bandy pulls out the
733
00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:20.420
Derringer gun to be like, no, I know you killed
734
00:33:20.450 --> 00:33:24.509
your brother. So we were saying, well, why doesn't Bandy
735
00:33:24.529 --> 00:33:27.049
just call the police, turn him in? Probably Daniel would
736
00:33:27.309 --> 00:33:32.410
beat the rap because it's 1911 and he's very, very wealthy. So,
737
00:33:33.539 --> 00:33:35.940
you know, there's no forensic evidence. Like it's very poor
738
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:38.720
back at that time. Okay, so it's better for him
739
00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:41.339
to just go to church. So Daniel knows, okay, I'm fucked.
740
00:33:41.460 --> 00:33:43.019
He has me for the murder.
741
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:43.259
Of my brother.
742
00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:46.910
I have to go to church. And he's brought into church.
743
00:33:47.170 --> 00:33:50.029
Eli sees him. Eli loves this.
744
00:33:50.049 --> 00:33:50.710
Of course.
745
00:33:51.950 --> 00:33:55.069
And Eli says, is there a sinner here looking for salvation?
746
00:33:55.089 --> 00:33:58.849
And Daniel says, nothing. I love that. I will ask again.
747
00:33:58.869 --> 00:34:03.150
Is there a sinner here looking for salvation? And Daniel's like,
748
00:34:03.589 --> 00:34:07.000
me neither. And this is the big scene that everybody
749
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:09.199
credits as like, this is the best acting scene in
750
00:34:09.219 --> 00:34:09.940
the movie.
751
00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:13.519
It's the cover of the poster, the soundtrack, everything in
752
00:34:13.579 --> 00:34:13.900
this scene.
753
00:34:14.019 --> 00:34:15.219
So talk about this scene, Ryan.
754
00:34:15.460 --> 00:34:21.710
So Daniel's brought up on the altar and Eli is.
755
00:34:23.329 --> 00:34:26.170
Eli, of course, knows a lot about Daniel outside of
756
00:34:26.230 --> 00:34:29.849
what the people in this church know. And he's like,
757
00:34:29.889 --> 00:34:32.659
have you sinned? Have you done whatever? And he's just
758
00:34:32.699 --> 00:34:36.070
going through all of the quote-unquote crimes of Daniel. It's like,
759
00:34:36.710 --> 00:34:39.349
you abandoned your son, and he's slapping Daniel. He's like,
760
00:34:39.369 --> 00:34:42.710
I abandoned my son! And doing all of these, like,
761
00:34:43.449 --> 00:34:47.090
incriminating Daniel. I abandoned my boy. And what's amazing about
762
00:34:47.130 --> 00:34:50.150
it is that you're watching Eli put on a performance
763
00:34:50.369 --> 00:34:55.010
in front of these people. And you're watching Daniel do
764
00:34:55.110 --> 00:34:57.320
the same thing. He's like, I have to go through
765
00:34:57.340 --> 00:34:57.900
this part.
766
00:34:58.400 --> 00:34:59.090
I have to do it.
767
00:34:59.460 --> 00:35:02.840
To get people to buy into me. But then, again,
768
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:06.710
what's I agree in a weird way why people put
769
00:35:06.730 --> 00:35:10.570
this as the best actor montage is that when he's saying,
770
00:35:10.929 --> 00:35:13.429
for one of the times he says, I abandoned my boy,
771
00:35:13.489 --> 00:35:16.949
you can tell like, oh, he did. He felt that way.
772
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:18.059
One of them.
773
00:35:18.659 --> 00:35:21.340
Yeah, he realized it. I did do this.
774
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:24.719
Eli, so my favorite moment in this whole scene is
775
00:35:24.860 --> 00:35:27.500
Eli says, say I've abandoned my child. And he says,
776
00:35:27.539 --> 00:35:29.699
I've abandoned my child. And you can tell he doesn't
777
00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:32.739
really believe it. And Eli says, say it again. I've
778
00:35:32.780 --> 00:35:36.199
abandoned my child. And then Daniel looks at him and
779
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:39.960
the look is like if laser beams could shoot out
780
00:35:39.980 --> 00:35:45.360
of Daniel's eyes and explode Eli yes it is remarkable.
781
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:49.199
So but also like Kevin just said like Eli's just
782
00:35:49.219 --> 00:35:52.230
abandoned my child he's just abandoned my boy that time
783
00:35:52.250 --> 00:35:56.210
so he's like he's personally picking it and he's like
784
00:35:56.230 --> 00:35:59.449
I need to get out of here while it's happening
785
00:35:59.489 --> 00:36:00.269
I need to get this.
786
00:36:00.210 --> 00:36:02.269
Done let's wrap this up yeah let's wrap this up
787
00:36:03.489 --> 00:36:06.539
Eli's slapping him Oh my goodness. And hitting him hard too.
788
00:36:06.550 --> 00:36:09.510
Eli's returned the favor from the last humiliation for Eli.
789
00:36:09.889 --> 00:36:14.940
And again you realize again like this is about they
790
00:36:15.019 --> 00:36:18.000
both don't care about the bigger meaning of what they sell.
791
00:36:18.099 --> 00:36:22.880
It's about them. Them. And then I'm fascinated by this
792
00:36:22.900 --> 00:36:26.289
and wonder what you guys think. This whole thing happens.
793
00:36:26.349 --> 00:36:30.449
They all clap. They all stand up. Daniel walks over
794
00:36:30.469 --> 00:36:36.210
and then William Bandy is already up on the altar,
795
00:36:36.250 --> 00:36:39.869
and he shakes Daniel's hand. They do whatever. And then
796
00:36:39.929 --> 00:36:42.409
Daniel walks over to Eli and says something to him.
797
00:36:42.510 --> 00:36:45.809
You never hear what he says. You see his mouth move.
798
00:36:45.829 --> 00:36:49.340
And Eli's face just sinks. And I always thought Daniel
799
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:51.030
was like, I will.
800
00:36:50.659 --> 00:36:53.420
Murder you tomorrow. Yeah, that was a wild bunch of
801
00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:56.159
bullshit you just spewed there. I got the bandit track.
802
00:36:56.179 --> 00:36:58.980
Yeah, like you're full of shit, you're done. And like,
803
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:01.039
it's just because the way Eli's face.
804
00:37:00.900 --> 00:37:02.860
Reacts is so fascinating. But now, I look at that
805
00:37:02.900 --> 00:37:04.719
event as like a humiliation ritual.
806
00:37:04.739 --> 00:37:04.960
Truth.
807
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:09.619
Like, how much money does Daniel Plainview have at that
808
00:37:09.739 --> 00:37:13.570
point where he's still willing to go through a humiliation ritual?
809
00:37:13.590 --> 00:37:15.789
Well, he needs to build a pipeline. Because building the
810
00:37:15.829 --> 00:37:19.809
pipeline is like, you go from a multi-millionaire to a multi-billionaire.
811
00:37:19.929 --> 00:37:22.349
And again, what difference would that have made in his life?
812
00:37:22.429 --> 00:37:23.650
To you and me, nothing.
813
00:37:23.710 --> 00:37:24.679
Yeah, no, I know, I know.
814
00:37:24.699 --> 00:37:26.380
For him, look what happens.
815
00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:27.440
To nothing, nothing.
816
00:37:27.900 --> 00:37:31.059
We jump 10 years. It's forever. We're now in a mansion.
817
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:35.900
There's no skyline or dirt in sight. He is now
818
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:41.449
in modern world times. He is nowhere near a ground site.
819
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:44.130
That's true. Was that the next scene?
820
00:37:44.510 --> 00:37:51.070
No, no, no. After this scene, H.W. comes back to
821
00:37:51.130 --> 00:37:55.849
visit Daniel from his deaf school in San Francisco. He
822
00:37:55.889 --> 00:38:00.989
has a translator... Daniel says, I love you, son, and
823
00:38:01.030 --> 00:38:03.449
hugs him, and HW starts punching him in the face.
824
00:38:04.769 --> 00:38:07.170
I wrote, I would love to go to a nice
825
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:09.960
1910s steakhouse restaurant.
826
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:11.880
Like, this is my dream. Yeah, you love that.
827
00:38:12.019 --> 00:38:12.860
Oh, I would love this.
828
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:15.539
Also, I love... Like another L, boy!
829
00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:15.920
Yeah.
830
00:38:16.420 --> 00:38:18.300
When they do the HW scene when he comes back,
831
00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:19.039
it's far away.
832
00:38:19.429 --> 00:38:19.679
Yeah.
833
00:38:19.699 --> 00:38:20.530
It's so interesting.
834
00:38:20.909 --> 00:38:24.880
And the restaurant is like, it's old, 19... Do.
835
00:38:24.860 --> 00:38:27.420
You picture yourself getting an appetizer and a salad or
836
00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:30.059
just an entree? I get everything.
837
00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:34.849
He orders steaks and whiskey and then the guy who
838
00:38:35.010 --> 00:38:38.630
he threatened to slit his throat earlier, his name is H.M. Tilford,
839
00:38:39.449 --> 00:38:46.420
he comes back into the restaurant and Daniel puts a
840
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:50.139
napkin over his face to talk shit about H.M. Tilford
841
00:38:50.300 --> 00:38:53.139
out loud so H.M. Tilford will hear. And I think
842
00:38:53.179 --> 00:38:54.360
he does that just because.
843
00:38:56.119 --> 00:38:56.719
H.W.
844
00:38:56.940 --> 00:38:58.420
Is dead.
845
00:38:58.480 --> 00:38:58.920
Reading lips.
846
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:02.500
And he doesn't want him to know that he's aggressively
847
00:39:02.539 --> 00:39:03.780
talking shit about this other guy.
848
00:39:05.219 --> 00:39:07.070
Pretty weird to be like, you know what will tone
849
00:39:07.110 --> 00:39:09.369
this scene down? I'll put a napkin over my head
850
00:39:09.530 --> 00:39:11.650
and just start barking words out about it.
851
00:39:11.650 --> 00:39:13.250
Julia did it once, remember?
852
00:39:13.969 --> 00:39:15.610
Nope.
853
00:39:15.670 --> 00:39:18.610
I also love when H.M. Tilford comes over to Daniel
854
00:39:18.670 --> 00:39:21.610
and sees him. And to his credit, he has somewhat
855
00:39:21.650 --> 00:39:24.340
of the balls to say hello to Daniel. And when
856
00:39:24.380 --> 00:39:27.280
he sees HW, hi, how are you? There's no need
857
00:39:27.300 --> 00:39:27.750
to shout.
858
00:39:27.789 --> 00:39:28.849
There's no need to shout.
859
00:39:29.110 --> 00:39:30.989
Oh, father of the year. Father of the year knows
860
00:39:31.030 --> 00:39:32.110
how to communicate with this kid.
861
00:39:32.449 --> 00:39:34.369
H.M.
862
00:39:34.389 --> 00:39:35.849
Telford is like very normal.
863
00:39:36.070 --> 00:39:36.739
Yes, he's very normal.
864
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:38.010
He's like a normal businessman.
865
00:39:38.030 --> 00:39:39.139
He's doing the best he can, yeah.
866
00:39:39.389 --> 00:39:43.440
And Daniel is hammered at this lunch with his son
867
00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:46.280
because he's probably full of shame. He doesn't know how
868
00:39:46.300 --> 00:39:46.920
to handle it.
869
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:50.000
It might have been a late lunch, too. What if
870
00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:50.679
it was like a 2 p.m. lunch?
871
00:39:50.739 --> 00:39:52.699
That's the reason your entire personality changed.
872
00:39:53.300 --> 00:39:56.699
He gets right in Tilford's face and he goes, he
873
00:39:56.739 --> 00:39:59.199
was like, you thought I couldn't build a pipeline, but
874
00:39:59.260 --> 00:40:02.489
I did. You look like a fool, don't you, Tilford?
875
00:40:02.610 --> 00:40:05.510
And obviously the irony is Daniel looks like a fool
876
00:40:05.530 --> 00:40:07.989
because he's making a complete scene out of himself at lunch.
877
00:40:08.369 --> 00:40:11.650
And then Tilford just goes, yes, yes, I am right.
878
00:40:11.690 --> 00:40:12.710
You are right. I am a fool.
879
00:40:12.869 --> 00:40:14.570
Like, you are right. Best thing you can say in
880
00:40:14.610 --> 00:40:18.150
that situation is, yeah, you're absolutely right. 100%.
881
00:40:18.150 --> 00:40:22.820
When Tilford responds to you, Sam just goes, you do.
882
00:40:23.780 --> 00:40:24.820
Psychotic response.
883
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:27.360
And then he grabs, Tilford's drinking a whiskey, he grabs
884
00:40:27.380 --> 00:40:27.940
Tilford's whiskey.
885
00:40:27.980 --> 00:40:28.599
Oh, he crushes it.
886
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:30.239
Chugs it and puts it back. It's like, okay.
887
00:40:30.260 --> 00:40:30.820
Like he's winning.
888
00:40:31.219 --> 00:40:33.260
Yeah, like, oh yeah, like, yeah, you really won in
889
00:40:33.300 --> 00:40:37.539
that scene. And then it shows Eli, he's so big
890
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:39.389
as a preacher, he has to leave the town and
891
00:40:39.409 --> 00:40:41.469
go on a mission. And it shows him getting on
892
00:40:41.510 --> 00:40:43.909
the train and Daniel's kind of like seeing this, like, whatever,
893
00:40:43.969 --> 00:40:44.489
fuck you, dude.
894
00:40:44.510 --> 00:40:50.840
I love, This moment's so nice. You see a whole
895
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:52.980
montage of... They got a.
896
00:40:53.010 --> 00:40:53.210
A.
897
00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:55.250
Sign language teacher?
898
00:40:55.309 --> 00:40:58.329
A sign language person to help H.W. They're teaching him,
899
00:40:58.670 --> 00:41:04.389
but what's still awful to watch... Again, you've seen H.W.
900
00:41:04.570 --> 00:41:09.440
get some agency back in this whole movie. Sorry. And then...
901
00:41:10.699 --> 00:41:13.000
After getting the sign language teacher, he's in the church
902
00:41:13.019 --> 00:41:16.079
with Mary, and he's just doing... And I'm like, fucking
903
00:41:16.139 --> 00:41:16.940
don't do this to me.
904
00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:18.139
He's trying to see if he can hear.
905
00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:19.920
He's so hoping it comes back.
906
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:22.260
It's awful to watch. But I love how Mary's a
907
00:41:22.300 --> 00:41:26.280
little girl who's dirt poor, you know, farmer's daughter, and
908
00:41:26.429 --> 00:41:30.130
she is successfully learning sign language to communicate with H.W.
909
00:41:30.150 --> 00:41:32.969
She is trying. Daniel has made zero effort.
910
00:41:33.010 --> 00:41:33.809
What is this shit?
911
00:41:36.090 --> 00:41:39.480
I mean, I don't know. Like, in fairness, again, back then,
912
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:45.019
not to defend Daniel, but... It's like teaching a 50-year-old
913
00:41:45.059 --> 00:41:48.599
how to use, you know, how to write code. Like,
914
00:41:48.659 --> 00:41:49.500
it ain't happening.
915
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:52.079
Oh, do you know that? I didn't even know this.
916
00:41:52.179 --> 00:41:54.199
I was in the Uber app, and I was trying
917
00:41:54.219 --> 00:41:56.889
to find an invoice. And in the options, it said
918
00:41:57.179 --> 00:42:00.010
simple mode. And I was like, what is simple mode?
919
00:42:00.090 --> 00:42:02.090
And I clicked on it, and it said, this is
920
00:42:02.170 --> 00:42:04.150
a mode for, and I don't know how the way
921
00:42:04.190 --> 00:42:07.329
they phrased it, but it was like for basically boomers.
922
00:42:07.650 --> 00:42:10.210
Yeah. I'd be like, great.
923
00:42:10.230 --> 00:42:11.449
For those that are not familiar.
924
00:42:11.469 --> 00:42:12.750
You mean the dial's bigger?
925
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:19.800
But, like, again, Mary, she doesn't have shit to do, okay?
926
00:42:20.059 --> 00:42:23.480
She's not running an oil empire. Oh, I'm sorry, you
927
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:27.150
have more time to do finger painting with H.W.? Finger painting?
928
00:42:27.170 --> 00:42:30.090
Here's the thing. After Daniel's greatest shame, which is when
929
00:42:30.190 --> 00:42:33.050
Eli humiliates him in the church, who is the person
930
00:42:33.090 --> 00:42:36.429
who comes behind him and hugs him? Mary. She sits
931
00:42:36.489 --> 00:42:37.949
back down and she comes behind him and hugs him.
932
00:42:38.170 --> 00:42:39.389
Well, she was a nice person.
933
00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:40.389
Hugs Daniel?
934
00:42:40.409 --> 00:42:42.659
No. Remember that? Like, she comes by and hugs him,
935
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:43.130
and you're like, wow.
936
00:42:43.139 --> 00:42:45.480
She always had the hots for him. That's true. Oh,
937
00:42:45.900 --> 00:42:47.980
I don't know about that.
938
00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:52.820
So the last shot of this is H.W. and Mary
939
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:57.469
go off playing, and now it is 1927.
940
00:42:57.469 --> 00:42:58.409
Everything is great.
941
00:42:58.909 --> 00:43:02.090
H.W. is getting married to Mary, and Mary is pretty hot.
942
00:43:02.909 --> 00:43:04.949
She's hot. Her hair is a little short, but she's hot.
943
00:43:05.150 --> 00:43:06.510
Her hair is a little short.
944
00:43:06.869 --> 00:43:09.469
I mean, she's got like ear-length hair at this point. Like,
945
00:43:09.530 --> 00:43:11.369
was that... And.
946
00:43:11.550 --> 00:43:14.780
As Ryan said, this whole movie takes place in the dirt.
947
00:43:15.500 --> 00:43:17.019
This movie takes place in the dirt.
948
00:43:17.139 --> 00:43:17.920
It's so jarring.
949
00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:22.199
Now he's in like a Connecticut green mansion surrounded by trees.
950
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:23.199
Fairly modern.
951
00:43:23.579 --> 00:43:30.110
Yeah, huge mansion. And when they... So this is like
952
00:43:30.110 --> 00:43:34.030
16 years later. When they cut to Daniel, this may
953
00:43:34.090 --> 00:43:36.900
be my favorite Daniel moment. What is he up to, Kevin?
954
00:43:37.739 --> 00:43:41.610
Oh, he's having the time of his life. I disagree.
955
00:43:41.659 --> 00:43:42.829
Actually pretty fair for him.
956
00:43:42.849 --> 00:43:46.269
I would say he's enjoying his golden years, which are
957
00:43:46.750 --> 00:43:47.650
essentially his 50s.
958
00:43:47.829 --> 00:43:51.650
So he's in this spotless, beautiful mansion. I'll ask Ryan
959
00:43:51.670 --> 00:43:53.409
to answer the question for real. What is he doing?
960
00:43:53.570 --> 00:43:57.369
He's just shooting random shit in the hallway. The open firearms.
961
00:43:58.170 --> 00:44:01.880
My favorite part of this, I forgot this happened. Rewatching it,
962
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:05.079
I was like, this movie is a masterpiece. is they
963
00:44:05.179 --> 00:44:08.730
go to that scene of him shooting stuff, whatever, and
964
00:44:08.769 --> 00:44:11.309
you're like, he's just shooting open fire into the house.
965
00:44:11.730 --> 00:44:12.190
In his house.
966
00:44:12.449 --> 00:44:15.630
They just cut to him signing checks, and I love
967
00:44:15.650 --> 00:44:18.730
this so much. He's drinking a tea, and he has
968
00:44:18.750 --> 00:44:21.309
a cigarette between his fingers that are holding the tea,
969
00:44:21.630 --> 00:44:22.250
and he's just like.
970
00:44:22.730 --> 00:44:25.030
Well, can I tell you, the four things that he's
971
00:44:25.070 --> 00:44:27.800
doing that you just mentioned right there are he has.
972
00:44:29.539 --> 00:44:34.719
The highest end advanced firearm shooting gallery in a mansion. One.
973
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:37.480
It's not a shooting gallery. It's a hallway.
974
00:44:37.699 --> 00:44:41.539
It's a shooting gallery. It's his shooting gallery. It's a
975
00:44:41.539 --> 00:44:45.130
makeshift shooting gallery. You might want your shooting gallery set
976
00:44:45.150 --> 00:44:47.670
up differently than him. But if you were in his position,
977
00:44:47.710 --> 00:44:53.630
this is perfect. It's accessible. You live upstairs. You come downstairs.
978
00:44:53.670 --> 00:44:58.190
You shoot. He's got that. He's got smoke in a butt.
979
00:44:59.170 --> 00:45:04.940
With breakfast, right? Great. Full cocktail. Yeah. Okay. Cutting a
980
00:45:04.980 --> 00:45:05.880
check for whatever.
981
00:45:05.900 --> 00:45:08.480
I'm not sure he's into cocktails, is my opinion. I'm
982
00:45:08.500 --> 00:45:09.460
not sure he's buying into that.
983
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:10.760
I think it's straight whiskey.
984
00:45:10.820 --> 00:45:11.760
I think it's straight pain.
985
00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:15.010
No ice. It's possible he was having it neat.
986
00:45:15.309 --> 00:45:18.570
Imagine. H.W. comes to visit and says, can we speak?
987
00:45:18.630 --> 00:45:23.010
He messaged. He does sign language to his interpreter, and
988
00:45:23.050 --> 00:45:25.530
his interpreter says, can we speak in private?
989
00:45:25.550 --> 00:45:26.429
This is so crazy.
990
00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:29.380
This was tough. I couldn't even watch this. On my
991
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:35.019
15th rewatch today, I could not rewatch this six-minute scene.
992
00:45:35.500 --> 00:45:37.949
Daniel says, you can't speak at all, so why don't
993
00:45:37.969 --> 00:45:40.530
you flap your hands about and tell me where you've been.
994
00:45:41.590 --> 00:45:42.489
Not super kind.
995
00:45:42.929 --> 00:45:45.809
H.W. with sign language says, I love you very much.
996
00:45:45.949 --> 00:45:48.110
Tim, that one moment.
997
00:45:48.710 --> 00:45:49.690
I love you very much.
998
00:45:49.710 --> 00:45:53.030
I don't know why he's not in more movies. The
999
00:45:53.050 --> 00:45:56.079
guy who played adult H.W., He just did that.
1000
00:45:56.099 --> 00:45:57.300
Is he actually deaf in real life?
1001
00:45:57.579 --> 00:46:00.719
I'm not sure. Yes, 100%.
1002
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:05.920
The way he did that was just so... I'm trying
1003
00:46:05.940 --> 00:46:07.659
to come to my dad with a hard thing to
1004
00:46:07.699 --> 00:46:11.400
talk about. And he's like, I'm going to start with this.
1005
00:46:11.659 --> 00:46:16.219
And then your dad's opening line is like, I'm going
1006
00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:18.050
to fucking insult you as hard as I could.
1007
00:46:18.090 --> 00:46:18.809
You can't speak.
1008
00:46:19.130 --> 00:46:21.869
From your handicap, because you were in an explosion because
1009
00:46:21.909 --> 00:46:22.489
of my company.
1010
00:46:22.510 --> 00:46:26.739
It's my fault. You can't speak. But he's just like, okay,
1011
00:46:26.760 --> 00:46:28.300
but he opens with, and the way he does it
1012
00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:31.619
is so, it's just so wonderful. He's like, I love
1013
00:46:31.659 --> 00:46:31.940
you so much.
1014
00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:32.860
I love you very much.
1015
00:46:32.889 --> 00:46:33.969
Because you gave me this life.
1016
00:46:34.090 --> 00:46:36.530
I am taking Mary in Mexico and working outside in
1017
00:46:36.570 --> 00:46:38.269
the fields to do my own drilling and start my
1018
00:46:38.309 --> 00:46:41.190
own company. I need to make a change. Daniel says,
1019
00:46:41.269 --> 00:46:44.980
this makes you my competitor. And he says, I would
1020
00:46:45.019 --> 00:46:47.659
rather keep you as my father than my partner.
1021
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:48.480
No deal.
1022
00:46:49.380 --> 00:46:54.480
Yeah. And he's signing to his interpreter, and he goes,
1023
00:46:54.539 --> 00:47:00.760
tell me yourself, not your lap dog. Daniel says, you
1024
00:47:01.139 --> 00:47:04.659
are killing my image of you as a son. What
1025
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:08.170
the fuck does that mean? That's so awful. You are
1026
00:47:08.230 --> 00:47:10.010
killing my image of you as a son.
1027
00:47:10.030 --> 00:47:14.309
Well, you're in your latter years, and you have, like,
1028
00:47:14.969 --> 00:47:20.909
in Daniel Day-Lewis's mind, nothing... unfolded as he expected it
1029
00:47:20.949 --> 00:47:24.389
to yeah you know including this situation where i've got
1030
00:47:24.429 --> 00:47:28.269
a deaf orphan who can't talk to me telling me
1031
00:47:28.309 --> 00:47:30.989
he's leaving to go drill in mexico and i should
1032
00:47:31.030 --> 00:47:32.349
be happy for him like i'm.
1033
00:47:32.210 --> 00:47:34.929
Not he says you are not my son you are
1034
00:47:34.949 --> 00:47:37.320
an orphan i don't know you because you have none
1035
00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:40.360
of me this is very important you have none of
1036
00:47:40.489 --> 00:47:44.659
me in you like this anger of yours this maliciousness
1037
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:49.500
and backwards dealing anger maliciousness and backwards dealing Sounds a
1038
00:47:49.539 --> 00:47:50.320
lot like Daniel.
1039
00:47:51.019 --> 00:47:54.320
Also, I love, like, the moments the scene chooses to
1040
00:47:54.389 --> 00:48:02.050
be sign language versus talking. Like, when HW, like, he's like,
1041
00:48:02.210 --> 00:48:04.489
tell me, like, say it with your own words. Like,
1042
00:48:04.610 --> 00:48:05.309
don't do whatever.
1043
00:48:06.030 --> 00:48:07.269
Oh, my gosh, yeah.
1044
00:48:07.309 --> 00:48:09.190
The guy, again, this guy who did this, why didn't
1045
00:48:09.230 --> 00:48:12.489
he get more movies? When he, like, harrumphs where he's, like,
1046
00:48:12.510 --> 00:48:14.920
taking a deep breath, you're like, I can't even fucking
1047
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:17.480
watch this because he's like, this guy I know is
1048
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:19.840
going to humiliate me for the way I talk. And
1049
00:48:20.579 --> 00:48:23.619
then when he says it, and he's like, oh, there
1050
00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:24.070
you go.
1051
00:48:24.469 --> 00:48:27.510
And then, like, the fight, oh. He's like, use your
1052
00:48:27.590 --> 00:48:30.329
actual voice, because H.W. doesn't want to talk, because he's deaf,
1053
00:48:30.369 --> 00:48:32.590
he can't really talk. So then when he says, like,
1054
00:48:33.050 --> 00:48:35.969
he's talking as a deaf person would talk, he goes,
1055
00:48:36.010 --> 00:48:37.989
there you go, is it so hard? He says, I
1056
00:48:38.130 --> 00:48:40.329
took you for no other reason than a sweet face
1057
00:48:40.349 --> 00:48:44.809
to buy land. And he says, you're a bastard from
1058
00:48:44.849 --> 00:48:45.309
a basket.
1059
00:48:45.929 --> 00:48:46.429
H.W.
1060
00:48:46.449 --> 00:48:48.769
Says, thank God I have none of you in me.
1061
00:48:48.969 --> 00:48:49.769
But I love also, H.W.
1062
00:48:51.389 --> 00:48:51.769
Signs it.
1063
00:48:51.809 --> 00:48:54.769
He signs it. I love that. That's a great fuck
1064
00:48:54.789 --> 00:48:54.989
you moment.
1065
00:48:55.010 --> 00:48:58.190
You're a bastard from a basket! Yes.
1066
00:48:58.230 --> 00:48:58.309
H.W.
1067
00:48:58.309 --> 00:49:00.789
's leaving and he's yelling down the hallway, bastard from
1068
00:49:00.869 --> 00:49:01.550
a basket!
1069
00:49:01.849 --> 00:49:04.840
Daniel Day-Lewis has this thing where he needs to win
1070
00:49:04.949 --> 00:49:06.039
in every interaction.
1071
00:49:06.059 --> 00:49:06.860
Yeah.
1072
00:49:06.900 --> 00:49:09.139
Right? You know what I mean? And like, this was him,
1073
00:49:09.739 --> 00:49:12.599
this might be the last time I see this, you know,
1074
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:15.389
this kid, like, I need to make sure that he
1075
00:49:15.510 --> 00:49:19.329
leaves knowing that I won this conversation. And it's like,
1076
00:49:19.369 --> 00:49:22.250
oof that's a that's a.
1077
00:49:22.409 --> 00:49:25.489
Well sorry go ahead but did he like no i
1078
00:49:25.510 --> 00:49:27.510
think the son realizes like this is a husk of
1079
00:49:27.530 --> 00:49:30.880
a human it's even though this guy gave me my
1080
00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:33.659
this guy was a shepherd of my life and where
1081
00:49:33.699 --> 00:49:35.699
i am right now because he says he's like you
1082
00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:37.940
taught me like how to love doing this.
1083
00:49:38.099 --> 00:49:38.360
Yeah.
1084
00:49:38.440 --> 00:49:40.719
We're doing this soulless job. You taught me how to
1085
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:44.179
love the physical act of doing it. Not like you said,
1086
00:49:44.219 --> 00:49:47.139
like the guys earlier who were trying to buy it,
1087
00:49:47.210 --> 00:49:50.070
who have no idea what the actual work is. I mean,
1088
00:49:50.090 --> 00:49:51.789
the people who do it, like he said, he did
1089
00:49:51.829 --> 00:49:53.429
it so wonderfully kind.
1090
00:49:54.170 --> 00:49:58.210
And, oh, Daniel looks like absolute horseshit. Yes.
1091
00:49:58.369 --> 00:49:58.650
Yeah.
1092
00:49:58.670 --> 00:50:00.960
So my note right here, it says, what do you
1093
00:50:00.980 --> 00:50:03.880
do when you win? So if you are only focused
1094
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:07.360
on winning, And then you reach retirement age, or not
1095
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:12.800
retirement age, in Daniel's case. You've won. You've achieved all
1096
00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:16.579
the success. It's like Michael Phelps has struggled with his
1097
00:50:16.619 --> 00:50:20.010
mental health. His entire life, he focused on swimming. He
1098
00:50:20.030 --> 00:50:22.650
was the best swimmer of all time. He kicked everyone's ass.
1099
00:50:22.690 --> 00:50:25.190
He made everybody look like a moron. He won every
1100
00:50:25.230 --> 00:50:30.090
gold medal in multiple Olympics. And then he's like, okay,
1101
00:50:30.210 --> 00:50:32.929
now I have to just go live life? What the
1102
00:50:33.050 --> 00:50:33.630
fuck do I do?
1103
00:50:34.070 --> 00:50:38.269
Here's the thing. A lot of movies and TV shows
1104
00:50:38.329 --> 00:50:41.739
never show you when someone who is, quote-unquote, evil or
1105
00:50:41.780 --> 00:50:46.820
whatever wins or gets what they want, there is no celebration.
1106
00:50:47.380 --> 00:50:50.659
There is no... When they are in power, they actually
1107
00:50:50.699 --> 00:50:54.760
just rot. You just kind of run away. Because you
1108
00:50:54.880 --> 00:50:57.780
chase this thing so hard, there's nothing left of you.
1109
00:50:59.380 --> 00:51:00.219
Yes, and he.
1110
00:51:03.929 --> 00:51:06.329
Robert Baratheon in Game of Thrones is a great example.
1111
00:51:06.630 --> 00:51:09.519
The whole beginning of Game of Thrones is about.
1112
00:51:09.780 --> 00:51:11.079
Was he the dragon lady?
1113
00:51:12.840 --> 00:51:22.860
No. Robert Baratheon was the king who overthrew... Anyways. His
1114
00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:25.969
wife was stolen from him and he started a rebellion
1115
00:51:26.150 --> 00:51:31.110
and he fought the Targaryens and defeated them and became king.
1116
00:51:31.130 --> 00:51:34.340
And then when he became king, he was like, Alright, like, okay,
1117
00:51:34.409 --> 00:51:36.800
so now I have to run the whole country?
1118
00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:40.940
What? Yeah. Was this the zombie show?
1119
00:51:44.739 --> 00:51:49.000
So, this is my favorite woken up on the ground scene.
1120
00:51:49.539 --> 00:51:52.559
Daniel is literally in the gutter.
1121
00:51:52.820 --> 00:51:54.260
Let's talk about the greatest.
1122
00:51:54.579 --> 00:51:57.440
Wait, this is the best waking up drunk scene, yeah.
1123
00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:00.980
Let's talk about the greatest... Movie hero of all time.
1124
00:52:01.019 --> 00:52:01.519
The butler.
1125
00:52:01.739 --> 00:52:02.460
Unnamed butler.
1126
00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:05.920
Wait a second. What is this person's scene? I always
1127
00:52:05.940 --> 00:52:08.519
think if you find yourself in this situation, things aren't
1128
00:52:08.539 --> 00:52:08.980
that bad.
1129
00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:11.880
When you wake up in your mansion in the gutter
1130
00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:15.099
of a bowling alley, I think things have gone very wrong.
1131
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:20.860
Because you've succeeded really greatly in certain ways and failed
1132
00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:21.840
terribly in other ways.
1133
00:52:21.980 --> 00:52:24.579
Yes, but also if you thought back to the 18-year-old
1134
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:30.469
version of himself, And I'm sure he probably thought, like, hey, listen,
1135
00:52:30.469 --> 00:52:35.760
40 years from now, you're in a $ 200 million mansion
1136
00:52:35.860 --> 00:52:40.019
in South Jersey. You've got a bowling alley, a butler,
1137
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:44.480
you've got a shooting gallery, you know, unlimited, you know, everything.
1138
00:52:44.510 --> 00:52:47.269
And you wake up, you haven't had a couple drinks
1139
00:52:47.309 --> 00:52:49.349
too many, you wake up and you're bowling alley.
1140
00:52:49.889 --> 00:52:53.550
He's such a bad alcoholic, he's dying and can barely walk.
1141
00:52:55.269 --> 00:52:57.449
So he's literally face down in the gutter of his
1142
00:52:57.510 --> 00:53:00.380
bowling alley in his mansion. And his butler wakes him up.
1143
00:53:00.929 --> 00:53:03.429
He says, you have a guest. And Daniel's just snoring.
1144
00:53:04.090 --> 00:53:07.050
And Eli shows up. He is dressed very well. He's
1145
00:53:07.070 --> 00:53:09.510
in a suit. He has a cross necklace. And I love,
1146
00:53:09.550 --> 00:53:15.260
Daniel's snoring. And Eli's like, Daniel, Daniel. And he's... And
1147
00:53:15.300 --> 00:53:19.119
he goes, it's Eli. And then Daniel goes... That's a
1148
00:53:19.179 --> 00:53:24.300
great scene. And Daniel wakes up. And Eli's like, I
1149
00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:26.460
got a drink for us. Do you want a drink? Daniel,
1150
00:53:26.480 --> 00:53:31.659
who's drunk, 24-7, 365, refuses the drink from Eli. And
1151
00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:35.400
for the first time in the entire fucking movie, he
1152
00:53:35.420 --> 00:53:36.400
starts drinking water.
1153
00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:40.619
You know what? That's actually a really great call. You're
1154
00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:43.400
put in that situation where you're woken up from a
1155
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:48.449
complete drunken blackout slumber. by the person that you hate
1156
00:53:48.489 --> 00:53:51.610
the most in the entire world, and the guy's offering
1157
00:53:51.659 --> 00:53:53.679
you a drink, and you go, no, no, I'm actually
1158
00:53:53.699 --> 00:53:54.460
going to take it easy.
1159
00:53:54.480 --> 00:53:55.760
He cannot be in control.
1160
00:53:56.079 --> 00:53:57.099
I'm going to take it easy now. He cannot be
1161
00:53:57.119 --> 00:53:59.599
in control. Pass me the Pellegrino, if you don't mind.
1162
00:54:00.139 --> 00:54:02.960
Daniel starts chugging his last bottle of water, and I wrote, brother,
1163
00:54:02.980 --> 00:54:07.230
I've been there. Eli says, Bandy's grandson will sell you
1164
00:54:07.269 --> 00:54:09.650
the oil in the field. They sold you the access
1165
00:54:09.670 --> 00:54:12.150
to the pipeline, but refused to sell you the oil.
1166
00:54:12.269 --> 00:54:15.670
They'll sell you the oil now. And I want to
1167
00:54:15.789 --> 00:54:17.889
buy the, I want to sell this to you. And
1168
00:54:17.909 --> 00:54:21.659
Daniel says, totally. I'm happy to do this. All you
1169
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:23.559
have to do, and I will buy it, is you
1170
00:54:23.579 --> 00:54:25.659
have to tell me you're a false prophet and God
1171
00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:26.420
is a superstition.
1172
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:29.599
So great. So great to say, I accept all the
1173
00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:32.860
terms of your offer. There's just, I have one contingency.
1174
00:54:33.739 --> 00:54:35.809
And after that, we're off and running. So petty.
1175
00:54:35.829 --> 00:54:36.889
Eli goes, I want $ 100, 000. No problem. Plus the $ 5, 000
1176
00:54:36.789 --> 00:54:37.469
that you owed me from before.
1177
00:54:37.489 --> 00:54:37.610
Done.
1178
00:54:37.630 --> 00:54:44.019
With, With interest.
1179
00:54:44.039 --> 00:54:44.440
Of course.
1180
00:54:45.780 --> 00:54:50.820
And Daniel goes, done. I will 100% do this. So
1181
00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:54.559
Eli's like, okay. Well, if you're making me say this.
1182
00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:57.199
Now, how soon can we start drilling? He goes, right away.
1183
00:54:57.219 --> 00:55:00.199
Shouldn't take too long. Ready to go as soon as
1184
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:03.519
we're just waiting on one contingency of you saying that
1185
00:55:03.539 --> 00:55:05.570
you're a false prophet and that God's a superstition.
1186
00:55:05.590 --> 00:55:08.030
And he's like, all right, Daniel. I'm a false prophet.
1187
00:55:08.070 --> 00:55:10.610
God's a superstition. Daniel goes, no, no, no. You have
1188
00:55:10.650 --> 00:55:12.889
to say it like it's your sermon. You have to
1189
00:55:12.949 --> 00:55:14.070
stand up and say it.
1190
00:55:15.409 --> 00:55:15.590
And.
1191
00:55:16.570 --> 00:55:20.510
Can we give him this credit? He is so insulting
1192
00:55:20.590 --> 00:55:24.960
to Eli in this moment. So great. Imagine... This is
1193
00:55:25.019 --> 00:55:28.579
your church. Now, do it.
1194
00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:31.699
For the people in the back, he's also eating like
1195
00:55:31.739 --> 00:55:35.630
a piece of steak that was left there, like a
1196
00:55:35.679 --> 00:55:38.170
cold piece of steak. He's like nibbling through the fat
1197
00:55:38.210 --> 00:55:42.250
of the steak. And he's decided... He knows, what's so
1198
00:55:42.289 --> 00:55:45.469
great about this is he knows in this moment, this
1199
00:55:45.510 --> 00:55:47.409
guy didn't just appear here out of nowhere. He came
1200
00:55:47.449 --> 00:55:51.880
here specifically for something. Oh, he needs something. He's desperate.
1201
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:58.199
And when Paul Dano says to him like, oh, he
1202
00:55:58.260 --> 00:56:01.710
basically says like, you know, something about like misfortune or
1203
00:56:01.750 --> 00:56:03.809
something like that. And Daniel Day-Lewis is like, oh, have
1204
00:56:03.849 --> 00:56:06.710
things not turned out well for you? And it's like,
1205
00:56:07.489 --> 00:56:12.090
Daniel Day, I think you probably know that he's coming
1206
00:56:12.110 --> 00:56:16.429
to you from a position of need versus everything's great.
1207
00:56:16.869 --> 00:56:19.590
It's the reverse of the scene we saw when he
1208
00:56:19.630 --> 00:56:22.860
was at Eli's church.
1209
00:56:22.909 --> 00:56:26.739
Now you need something from me. And I've prayed to
1210
00:56:27.480 --> 00:56:30.079
God Almighty that you would walk in my door and
1211
00:56:30.099 --> 00:56:31.639
want to put on some bowling shoes.
1212
00:56:31.960 --> 00:56:34.920
And after he's screaming over and over, God is a superstition,
1213
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:39.380
I am a false prophet, Daniel just says... Those wills
1214
00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:42.400
have been... Yeah, those areas have been drilled. It's called drainage.
1215
00:56:42.960 --> 00:56:44.719
Drainage!
1216
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:48.280
And this is the I drink your milkshake speech where
1217
00:56:48.300 --> 00:56:50.920
he's talking about, if I own all the land around
1218
00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:54.519
that land, I will send pipes under the ground and
1219
00:56:54.860 --> 00:56:57.679
suck up that oil. I drink your milkshake. And he's like,
1220
00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:01.329
I come from all the way over here. And I
1221
00:57:01.349 --> 00:57:05.489
drink the blood of the lamb from Bendy's tract every day.
1222
00:57:06.150 --> 00:57:08.269
And then Eli crumbles and he says, I need help.
1223
00:57:08.289 --> 00:57:12.889
I'm a sinner. God has completely failed to alert me
1224
00:57:12.949 --> 00:57:14.750
about the recent panic in our economy.
1225
00:57:15.670 --> 00:57:18.829
Great line. God damn it. Me too. Great line.
1226
00:57:19.349 --> 00:57:26.570
Eli says, the Lord sometimes challenges us. Daniel says, yes
1227
00:57:26.619 --> 00:57:31.639
he does. It was Paul who told me about you.
1228
00:57:31.659 --> 00:57:33.900
I broke you and I beat you.
1229
00:57:35.380 --> 00:57:37.619
This was the first time he realizes his brother, his
1230
00:57:37.980 --> 00:57:40.559
identical twin brother, did sell out the entire family.
1231
00:57:40.579 --> 00:57:41.820
Yeah.
1232
00:57:41.880 --> 00:57:46.269
And he tells him I gave him $ 500 or $ 5, 000
1233
00:57:45.409 --> 00:57:47.909
or $ 500 cash in his hand and, you know, makes
1234
00:57:47.929 --> 00:57:51.190
a loud clap like that. Like, as soon as that
1235
00:57:51.250 --> 00:57:57.969
transaction was done, I'm paying this kid. And he has, again, this, the,
1236
00:57:59.150 --> 00:58:03.570
not a priest, but the holy man's brother has an oil. Yeah.
1237
00:58:04.340 --> 00:58:07.449
producing $ 500 a week or something like that, or $ 5, 000
1238
00:58:06.849 --> 00:58:07.789
a week.
1239
00:58:08.670 --> 00:58:10.829
And he starts whipping bowling balls at Eli.
1240
00:58:11.130 --> 00:58:12.449
Pins, yeah. Oh, bowling balls.
1241
00:58:12.469 --> 00:58:17.150
Bowling balls. And Eli's jumping over them, and he's screaming
1242
00:58:17.190 --> 00:58:20.110
at him, and then he starts throwing bowling pins at him,
1243
00:58:20.139 --> 00:58:24.599
and Eli's like, Daniel, we're brothers. We're longtime friends. And
1244
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:26.699
you were commenting earlier, like, no, they're not.
1245
00:58:26.739 --> 00:58:27.139
Misread.
1246
00:58:27.780 --> 00:58:28.199
Misread.
1247
00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:32.699
Not at all. Misread. Like, we lived in the same neighborhood...
1248
00:58:32.739 --> 00:58:33.860
You know, or whatever.
1249
00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:36.519
Also, like, Eli also knows they're not friends.
1250
00:58:36.900 --> 00:58:37.659
No, of course.
1251
00:58:37.699 --> 00:58:37.900
Yeah.
1252
00:58:38.099 --> 00:58:40.119
But he thinks he can come and manipulate him, which
1253
00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:40.980
is a huge mistake.
1254
00:58:41.019 --> 00:58:42.800
Why would you show up at his house?
1255
00:58:42.949 --> 00:58:44.349
Insane. Insane.
1256
00:58:44.429 --> 00:58:46.309
Because you're desperate. Insane.
1257
00:58:46.329 --> 00:58:46.909
You're desperate.
1258
00:58:46.949 --> 00:58:47.610
He's the most money.
1259
00:58:47.630 --> 00:58:49.750
I like the butler going, you have a visitor. You
1260
00:58:50.010 --> 00:58:51.849
have a visitor. Like, oh, thanks so much.
1261
00:58:52.130 --> 00:58:55.530
And then Daniel's whipping bowling pins at him and trying
1262
00:58:55.550 --> 00:58:57.679
to hit him with a bowling pin. And it's kind
1263
00:58:57.719 --> 00:59:01.099
of in, you kind of think it's fine. It comical
1264
00:59:01.219 --> 00:59:03.119
funny yeah it's comical funny but then all of a
1265
00:59:03.159 --> 00:59:05.539
sudden when he actually hits him in the.
1266
00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:07.409
Head he's on his hands and knees crawling away and
1267
00:59:07.429 --> 00:59:09.269
Daniel Day-Lewis is like well I missed you with the
1268
00:59:09.329 --> 00:59:13.500
first three throws of the hard mahogany pins now I'm
1269
00:59:13.639 --> 00:59:16.000
gonna come over and bash you over the head with
1270
00:59:16.119 --> 00:59:18.239
one to kind of close this game out.
1271
00:59:18.179 --> 00:59:21.519
He hits him with one pin like once and you
1272
00:59:21.579 --> 00:59:24.559
know he's dead oh that's not good that was bad
1273
00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:29.340
and then to you know question all doubt Daniel stands
1274
00:59:29.420 --> 00:59:33.889
over him and crushes his skull in with the bowling pin.
1275
00:59:34.110 --> 00:59:35.809
He didn't crush his skull. It was two more swings.
1276
00:59:37.210 --> 00:59:39.030
The results footage is pretty tough.
1277
00:59:39.710 --> 00:59:45.809
And then the caretaker butler comes down and says, like, Mr.
1278
00:59:45.869 --> 00:59:48.650
Plainview or whatever, Daniel, I don't remember what he calls him,
1279
00:59:48.670 --> 00:59:49.130
and he says.
1280
00:59:49.150 --> 00:59:52.920
I'm finished. Last line of the movie.
1281
00:59:53.820 --> 00:59:57.239
I'm finished. The end of There Will Be Blood.
1282
00:59:58.760 --> 01:00:00.780
Uh, lessons learned. We gotta do lessons learned.
1283
01:00:01.590 --> 01:00:03.360
So, lessons learned or advice?
1284
01:00:04.730 --> 01:00:06.789
Um, I, what about, like, theme? Like, what do you
1285
01:00:06.809 --> 01:00:12.289
guys think the theme is of that movie? I'll go first. Okay. Okay. Greed. Yep.
1286
01:00:12.550 --> 01:00:21.789
Greed over everything. Yep. Um, definitely, like, unfortunately, capitalism. Yep. Um, definitely, like,
1287
01:00:22.130 --> 01:00:27.949
wariness of, you know, like, just being, keeping, being on
1288
01:00:27.989 --> 01:00:31.199
your toes at all times. Like you're, you're on, you're on,
1289
01:00:31.489 --> 01:00:34.829
you know, troubled water, like be on your toes. Um,
1290
01:00:36.369 --> 01:00:40.280
and then, yeah, I mean, I think over focusing on
1291
01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:43.179
one thing versus the big picture.
1292
01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:43.760
Yeah.
1293
01:00:44.179 --> 01:00:47.880
Um, really like you kind of need to, I don't know,
1294
01:00:47.920 --> 01:00:51.440
like it just doesn't seem like he ended up, he
1295
01:00:51.619 --> 01:00:53.679
had an opportunity to end up in a much better
1296
01:00:53.719 --> 01:00:55.239
place than he ended up and he ended up in,
1297
01:00:56.409 --> 01:00:58.570
I don't know, what I would consider maybe like worst case,
1298
01:00:59.260 --> 01:01:06.159
nearly worst case scenario. Yeah, unintentionally. You know, unintentional bad
1299
01:01:06.199 --> 01:01:07.059
decisions or whatever.
1300
01:01:07.079 --> 01:01:11.039
I don't think that the movie portrays like capitalism is bad.
1301
01:01:11.179 --> 01:01:14.320
I think that capitalism can go really bad. And I
1302
01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:16.650
think that Daniel has a lot of really good qualities.
1303
01:01:16.670 --> 01:01:20.969
I think he's intelligent. I think he's hardworking. I think
1304
01:01:21.010 --> 01:01:24.489
he's obviously successful. And I think he does love certain
1305
01:01:24.530 --> 01:01:26.250
people in his life, but at the end of the day,
1306
01:01:26.329 --> 01:01:29.679
he values the wrong things. You can be a capitalist
1307
01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:32.440
and make money and work hard and be smart, but
1308
01:01:32.579 --> 01:01:37.239
also value your family and value human relationships. And I
1309
01:01:37.280 --> 01:01:40.619
think that the lesson of this movie is Daniel only
1310
01:01:40.760 --> 01:01:46.659
focused on crushing everyone and success and money. And that's
1311
01:01:47.219 --> 01:01:49.909
the question I asked earlier. What do you do when
1312
01:01:49.929 --> 01:01:52.570
you win? If all you want to do is win...
1313
01:01:52.900 --> 01:01:54.719
And then you win, win, win, win, win, win, win.
1314
01:01:54.780 --> 01:01:56.260
And you're at the top of the mountain and you're
1315
01:01:56.300 --> 01:01:58.610
looking down at all the people you defeated. And there's
1316
01:01:58.780 --> 01:02:01.110
no one else to conquer. What do you do? You
1317
01:02:01.130 --> 01:02:04.969
have nothing to do. You're just... You're miserable. Wouldn't you rather...
1318
01:02:04.789 --> 01:02:07.150
Would you rather defeat everyone and sit at the top
1319
01:02:07.190 --> 01:02:08.769
of that mountain and then not know what to do?
1320
01:02:08.789 --> 01:02:11.289
Or would you rather, like, love your son? I would
1321
01:02:11.329 --> 01:02:12.309
rather love my son.
1322
01:02:15.469 --> 01:02:22.010
Ryan. Sorry. Do you need a tissue, bro? Sure.
1323
01:02:23.159 --> 01:02:25.719
My advice would be drink other people's milkshakes because milkshakes
1324
01:02:25.780 --> 01:02:26.460
are delicious.
1325
01:02:27.739 --> 01:02:29.840
The milkshake theme is kind of lost in this all.
1326
01:02:30.039 --> 01:02:31.699
That's actually a great point, honestly.
1327
01:02:33.019 --> 01:02:37.460
Calise. I think Chick-fil-A milkshakes are really good, but go on.
1328
01:02:37.579 --> 01:02:44.170
Wendy's, pretty solid. The Frosty. I would say what Daniel
1329
01:02:44.230 --> 01:02:47.730
doesn't do in this movie, since he is selective about this,
1330
01:02:48.150 --> 01:02:52.489
is quote-unquote chosen family. Movies do this really well, I
1331
01:02:52.510 --> 01:02:55.369
feel like, movies in general, about how, like, groups of
1332
01:02:55.429 --> 01:02:58.159
people are thrust together, or people are thrust together in
1333
01:02:58.199 --> 01:02:59.480
terms of, like, duos, whatever.
1334
01:02:59.500 --> 01:02:59.960
Yeah.
1335
01:03:00.579 --> 01:03:03.320
And the idea is that, like, the universe has said
1336
01:03:03.420 --> 01:03:09.230
you two need to be together. And Daniel seemed to
1337
01:03:09.429 --> 01:03:10.429
fight that, even though.
1338
01:03:10.449 --> 01:03:15.730
Of course, like, he stole H.W., quote-unquote, made him to
1339
01:03:15.769 --> 01:03:20.530
his son, in a weird way, the world was telling
1340
01:03:20.570 --> 01:03:22.369
him you kind of, you need this.
1341
01:03:22.449 --> 01:03:25.110
Like you, you truly can't be this. You can't be
1342
01:03:25.210 --> 01:03:29.659
Emperor Palpatine. You can't be this solo. Yeah. You need something.
1343
01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:32.320
Cause that's just not how the world works. So, um,
1344
01:03:33.260 --> 01:03:37.059
when people are just brought to your life, um, my
1345
01:03:37.099 --> 01:03:40.900
advice is accept them as you can. As bad as
1346
01:03:40.920 --> 01:03:41.360
that sounds.
1347
01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:42.400
You never know.
1348
01:03:44.119 --> 01:03:45.679
It's really stupid advice. I agree.
1349
01:03:45.699 --> 01:03:47.329
Uh, what movie did you watch?
1350
01:03:48.489 --> 01:03:50.789
It was called Return of the Jedi?
1351
01:03:51.949 --> 01:03:52.090
No.
1352
01:03:52.329 --> 01:03:55.099
When you said Emperor Palpatine, I'm like, I might.
1353
01:03:56.119 --> 01:03:59.820
My advice I would give for this movie, let's see,
1354
01:04:02.820 --> 01:04:05.559
trust only yourself. No one else matters.
1355
01:04:06.539 --> 01:04:08.079
If your kid goes deaf, abandon them.
1356
01:04:08.380 --> 01:04:13.449
That's not your problem. Yeah. Just keep going. You will win.
1357
01:04:13.769 --> 01:04:15.010
We all needed Kieran Hines.
1358
01:04:16.170 --> 01:04:19.650
No, but you're, They will eventually give in and care
1359
01:04:19.690 --> 01:04:21.010
about somebody if you have to discard them.
1360
01:04:21.219 --> 01:04:22.079
Yeah, that's true.
1361
01:04:22.699 --> 01:04:26.679
Just keep going. You'll always win and you'll be so
1362
01:04:26.800 --> 01:04:30.400
happy in the end. Your life will be so thrilling.
1363
01:04:30.420 --> 01:04:33.719
You'll just shoot things in your hallway for fun. That's
1364
01:04:33.739 --> 01:04:36.849
how good your life will be. So just keep going, guys.
1365
01:04:37.469 --> 01:04:41.929
Women don't exist. That's another takeaway I have from this movie.
1366
01:04:42.059 --> 01:04:46.059
That actually is a very incredibly fair play. Much like birds.
1367
01:04:46.099 --> 01:04:46.920
Much like birds.
1368
01:04:47.019 --> 01:04:47.639
Much like birds.
1369
01:04:47.679 --> 01:04:48.599
Besides Mary.
1370
01:04:48.860 --> 01:04:49.380
They're real.
1371
01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:53.090
No, they're, well, they're really drones sent from the government.
1372
01:04:54.550 --> 01:04:57.329
Right. Better that you see it than me. And then,
1373
01:04:57.369 --> 01:05:02.269
of course, yeah, I mean, it's okay to revisit the
1374
01:05:02.329 --> 01:05:06.469
plan every now and then. Like, if you're DDL, And
1375
01:05:06.510 --> 01:05:10.260
it's like you're five years in and you're an oil
1376
01:05:10.280 --> 01:05:14.280
tycoon and you've exceeded expectations earlier than you ever expected.
1377
01:05:14.380 --> 01:05:17.800
It's okay to revisit what the 20-year plan was five
1378
01:05:17.820 --> 01:05:22.179
years ago. Let's revisit the 20-year plan now. Because he
1379
01:05:22.239 --> 01:05:24.559
could have... Not that you want to sail off into
1380
01:05:24.579 --> 01:05:28.420
the sunset, but that was an option. Would you rather
1381
01:05:28.460 --> 01:05:30.619
have sailed off into the sunset at 30 or done
1382
01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:34.349
the next 20 years of just alienating everybody and blah, blah, blah? Well.
1383
01:05:34.659 --> 01:05:37.869
Again, that first deal they try to make with him,
1384
01:05:38.809 --> 01:05:41.869
they give him what he says he wants. They're like, hey,
1385
01:05:42.150 --> 01:05:44.989
you'll be a fucking millionaire, which no one else is
1386
01:05:45.030 --> 01:05:45.409
right now.
1387
01:05:45.489 --> 01:05:46.489
He's already a millionaire, yeah.
1388
01:05:46.570 --> 01:05:49.250
And like, so like, take it. This was the whole
1389
01:05:49.269 --> 01:05:51.809
thing you're driving for. And he's like, I can't, because
1390
01:05:51.889 --> 01:05:52.550
he can't.
1391
01:05:52.610 --> 01:05:55.119
Well, he'd have nothing. He said, what would I do
1392
01:05:55.139 --> 01:05:56.320
with myself? Great, because he can't.
1393
01:05:56.400 --> 01:05:58.960
He can't do it. Like, you keep running, you can't
1394
01:05:59.300 --> 01:06:01.860
stop running. So that's the whole idea of like, you're
1395
01:06:01.920 --> 01:06:04.760
running for a goal of... I want to have some
1396
01:06:04.780 --> 01:06:08.960
sense of peace or some sense of like, like stability,
1397
01:06:09.460 --> 01:06:12.530
but you can't accept that. You can't do that anymore.
1398
01:06:12.590 --> 01:06:12.739
Yeah.
1399
01:06:13.219 --> 01:06:17.190
But also it's insane because like the cost of that
1400
01:06:17.309 --> 01:06:19.690
is out of control. We should stop.
1401
01:06:25.269 --> 01:06:33.409
I think the move is, is probably communism. Don't you think? Okay.
1402
01:06:34.119 --> 01:06:36.659
I don't think that's the lesson of this movie. The
1403
01:06:36.699 --> 01:06:39.710
lesson of this movie is what's more valuable than money
1404
01:06:39.769 --> 01:06:42.030
is human relationships. That would be my lesson.
1405
01:06:42.110 --> 01:06:44.670
Even the ones that are trying so hard.
1406
01:06:45.969 --> 01:06:47.789
The ones that love you more than you love yourself.
1407
01:06:48.809 --> 01:06:52.360
If you want to be happy in the fulfilled way,
1408
01:06:53.360 --> 01:06:57.699
not in the doing heroin way.
1409
01:06:58.820 --> 01:07:00.159
It's human relationships.
1410
01:07:00.179 --> 01:07:01.599
There are different levels of fulfillment.
1411
01:07:02.340 --> 01:07:03.119
Sure, fair.
1412
01:07:03.599 --> 01:07:05.789
Going to Podcast 3, Spiritual Enlightenment.
1413
01:07:06.809 --> 01:07:08.369
All right, well, thank you for listening.
1414
01:07:08.670 --> 01:07:09.690
Thanks, Kevin, so much.
1415
01:07:09.889 --> 01:07:11.980
Thanks, Kevin. A thousand blessings to you both.
1416
01:07:12.179 --> 01:07:13.039
Thanks for having us here.
1417
01:07:15.880 --> 01:07:16.219
Bye.
1418
01:07:16.780 --> 01:07:17.360
Catch you on the flip.