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Welcome to Control All Good Pete today, and we're joined
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by Graham Carroll from HP Ferrari Esports.
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How are you, Graham, I'm very well. Thank you very
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much for having me.
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Love to have you on.
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I think first time I was aware of your metty
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I think it would have been back in twenty eighteen
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and Resonate.
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I think you were there.
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I think you spoke about he raced for an r team.
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Can you say what team? What was at that point?
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Well, I've done them all right, I.
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Was in how did you starting, Graham?
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Well, let's get get back to a good way to.
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Leave and then you can mention things maybe yeh.
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So my old man used to have a Formula Ford
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racing team, but not Killed before I was born. So
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when I was born.
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From I'm near pow Mill, so I'm actually from that area.
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So yeah, yeah, So I used to go up to
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not Kill and just sort of jump about the tires
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while he was mechanical and looking after the cars, setting
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the cars, watch the races. I think I've just been
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hooked ever since. So as soon as I got to
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seven eight year old by the local car track called Raceland, right,
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I'm old man Mary other way from Edinburgh, sort of
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down the coast, right, So all Man used to go
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to work in the morning and drop me off at
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Raceland with some fuel and I used to lap all
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day and he used to pick me up on the
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way home. So I think so it's so started off
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in go carts with Scottish Champion. I think they finished third,
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fourth and fifth in the British Championships. And this was
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at like nine year old.
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No year was that then?
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That would have been nineteen ninety eight, right right, honestly
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and whenever. Really we just sort of chucked ourself at
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oh Man chucked me in at it deep end right
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into British Championships.
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I was only dropping your kid off and forget the sandwiches,
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as long as left him with the pedal.
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But I think it was the best thing for you. You know,
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let's not worry about little club races, get straight into
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the British Championships and learn from all the good guys.
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And we did so third, fourth and fifth moved their
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way up through the championships. It's like I Scottish Champion.
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A few times we got into cars. I won like
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a three year in a car with a BRDC Jeanetta Juniors. Right,
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We've done that one a few races.
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What kind of car was that?
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It's a Jeanetta Junior, so it's like a little saloon
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car with a roof, but pretty slow and it's for
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like fourteen fifteen, sixteen year olds just to get into racing, right,
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So it started us off there and I moved into
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form of the Ford. So you see them up at
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not Kill. I was starting not Kill a Scottish champion
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of form of the forward British champion. Also one like
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the Walter Hayes Trophy. It's like the biggest race in
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form of the Ford in the year. People from all
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of the world come over. So done a lot of
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real racing, but it just sort of led up to this.
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We're going to go into porshcrea Cup quarter to have
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a million pounds a year and from old man my
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mum that none of us have got that type of money, right,
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so we try for sponsorship. Who really did? But it
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was in two thousand and eight the credit crunch right now,
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and it, honestly it was it was really disappointing. All
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I'd done my whole life was sort of like go
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to race tracks, get ready for races, and a'm eighteen
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year older, I didn't really know what to do with myself.
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So I started playing Granturisma. Yeah, yeah, as you do, right,
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I just I missed the leader board and chasing times
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and being competitive. So I went into Granturismo and I
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could see these times and before I knew it, I
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wasn't the best at the game, but I was one
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of the best in the world at Grandismo.
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And what cars did you go?
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Did you doing? Honestly, it was just anything. There was
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a leader board, just saloon cars, vans like just whatever.
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Granted ismal gamers, right, so it was Carrol Transit Champion,
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so anything and learn all these different circuits. I've never
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known about being doing carting in my real life, so
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that would be good.
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That would have been good.
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Actually, if you spend a lot of time in the
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top of a kill, what's it was the best?
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It's what's the one that that duffest? That?
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Okay?
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So I was Actually I got troubles enough to took
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a walk round it.
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That's steep, and it's how do you take that? Surely
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you can't take it in there?
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It's blind. You just got to go in and you
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can see the carb on the entry and aim for
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the carb and know that when you hit that curb
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you're kindly just sort of taking off. But we've done
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it so many times. But the one the other one
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going up through the chicane's blind as well, and it's
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got like a tire stack that you need to kind
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of skiff right. It's just practice practice. I think if
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you can drive not kill when you go the blind,
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when you go up through the chicane and the hairpint,
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if you can I have not killed aggressively and fast,
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you can go to any circuit in the UK and
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be fast. It takes a bit of balls really with
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us where you go to silvers and it's just flat. Yeah,
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like fast corners where not kill you've really got.
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Your sort of because you can't break in middayre and
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you can't turn in midare, so that that hell for me.
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I always thought to myself, you.
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Can use a wee bit of the x exits put
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half your car into their to get your car. I
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was always in form of the forward, so no no wings.
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It's done to mechanical grips. So you're dancing about, so
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you've got to flick it in and get it angled
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before you even hit the curbs. It's an awesome track
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and even I race and brung it out in the
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last couple of years, something been able to do. It
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happens time on not Kill when I've not seen him
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on there. To be honest, it's not the most popular.
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He doesn't unburg and that he needs to get a knock.
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He's racing the number Bring the Norch life today in GT. Three.
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Ye like she drivers like yoursell and I can just
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feel your passion for already and the fact that somebody
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like match you would think in his day off, if
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one driver you may think they're being beaches and now,
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but the fact you're taking it and still doing it.
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He's just had a kid and stuff and everything. And
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the guys at Nord's life today right, he's honestly, he's
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a different breed. It's like I was just we're talking
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about it, but my old man, like he does the
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number Ground twenty four hour with his mates and on
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the on the SIM and he just went, I'm doing
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this in real life now and it's just it must
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be so similar. But I know what it's like to
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go out there and really do like a team event
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and go really well, just to transfer it from the
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sim to the real life and obviously to have the
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money to do it's one part, but it must just
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be so enjoyable. And to get away for the F
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one scene and do something else as.
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Well will be less calm and I was less spotlight.
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And just him being there is attracting a lot of attentions,
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so he'll make that even bigger than it is, but
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not really really cool to see. But but nah to
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have for stapping involved, I've done put a few things
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there when the past I was in his house racing
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away them and stuff.
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And I'll just say one thing, right, I was I
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grew up watching F one and I have Davey cool Tardi, right,
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so that was obviously you know, I love David and
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I think it was to McLaren and Lowis Hamilton and
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see that I would say that I like F one
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and I think but football was my jam. But I've
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never experienced sport like that year that Hamilton lost it.
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That was entertainment to them match and seeing from seeing
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them were stapping came off it Silverstone.
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It was just wild.
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That was like, I mean, you must have been for
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my racing fan. Having that rivalry of those two guys together,
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that was amazing.
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I've loved hamlet On all my life, but like I've
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got to know Max a little bit and stuff. So
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it's like I really like Hamilton for what he's done
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and he's British. Yeah, I know Max as well, and
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I've got a lot of respect for the way goes
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about himself. Like Max just it's just a pure guy
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like this, ruthless doesn't care about anything else, just racing
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and winning and what I really like respect.
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So people in a sense, you talk about Schumacher, you
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talk about all the greats, right, and I think they've
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all have to have that ruthless because you can't be
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mister a nice guy. You've seen him, but Norris and
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that I used to think about Norris came the track
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and be oh Man's don't be like that, You're just
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a weakness. Max just must look at him and be like,
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I've got your number exactly.
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But I fully agree. But he's a ruthless guy and
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you just have to I think I've never experienced, but
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even think other sports and stuff, you probably still have that.
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If you like and you're that competitive.
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I mean it's one thing to be dirty, but being
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ruthless as well when I actually taken that even when
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he was talking about doing that, so even just how
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silly he makes people look, so when they're getting a
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tires warm and that right, and the boy who was
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it behind him was.
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Just saying at the weekend and off he's just he's
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on top of everything.
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That was good because he wants to knowing that. And
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then as soon as he started doing the weave, and
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he was away doing it.
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For so long as well, and he's old man's done
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it for so long, like everything is just so dialed.
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Ands as well, and it's just ran the family.
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But now really really cool and honestly what he's done
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for SIM racing as well him being so president. Yeah,
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and I didn't get land the winter sim racing, but
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when I've seen him in the first few times he
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was on line, I got writing about and I tried
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to help him. Parali where them and we're playing college
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duty to six in the morning. And but but Lando's
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done the SIM racing, but he's maybe not taking it
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seriously for stappings like invested in a top team. I
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was in that team before Red Bull. He's invested in
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the team. He sort of helps everywhere. Now he's as
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passionate as the actual professional SIM racers if he never
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had f one, and even even though he does have one,
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he's honestly one of the best SIM racers in the
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world other top athletes. Did he ever really get that
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involved in Hamilton doesn't even touch us in Really, everyone
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each of their own and stuff.
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But he's investing in like some book or something. I've
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got it.
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But even so Orlando, I think he had the Halo,
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So I think Lando had these esports org as well,
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the halo side of it.
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He's got this quadrant and stuff as well. It does stuff,
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So I all do different stuff, but now respect to
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like it where it's due. Max do as he's really
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sort of I've done a competition again, I shouldn't really
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say it Posh Cup Sports Pescot's called an I racing.
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I qualified one year and the guy next to me
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and the good was were stapping. He had went through
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the qualification to get there. So again it's really cool
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to have him there, But I say, that's what you
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want even to beat him on the same circuit as well.
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But also he's what you like on f once and
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then you play that much. I was so when f
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when e Sports first happened, I knew of Max and
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I sort of went to him and says, look, I'm
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trying to get involved in reade life. And I went
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to the qualifier and the Red Bull guy walked in
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and went, you don't even need to drive today. You're
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a nice So I got picked to go with Red Bull.
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At the time, I've done it. F one games are
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very arcady and unique. I racing a Settle Courser l
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m u. It's like driving a realistic car. I couldn't
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even get off the ground in the Settle Courser right.
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So I were giving the GT Omega for Christmas and
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the wheel right, and I remember sitting and the I
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tried it.
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It was Asettle Courser and I couldn't get a thing
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off the That's embarrassing.
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It just shows you compared to the game didn't even
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load up. I didn't even I race him was a
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website to start with. First got onto it. I'm like, so,
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where's the where's the game? I'm rubbish your PC's but ah,
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And that's so. I the F one game is a
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very unique game. So if I go and play it
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right now. It would take me, honestly eight hours of
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a day. Take it really onto, like a Blake Clear.
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I opt there and I still.
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Had Lucas on the show as well, the cool guys,
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really really cool.
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When I qualified and got picked at Red Bull, him
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and his old men were there that didn't even kicks
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that day and they were both like, guide, really really guide.
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And it showed me that I'd been in the sim racing.
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I'd been picked by Red Bull. Lucas was new to it,
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and I said to him, look, didn't he take it
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as a negative? Here, Yeah, go away, work in ours off,
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get picked by a team, and look where he is now.
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So really really proud of him and what he's done.
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It's it's no like driving a racing car like I
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watched your yard up mer videos. He's the probably one
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of the best guys on it. It's an arcade game
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that caters for a one year old to a knitty
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nine year old. Yeah, if you'd go into I Racing
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or r Factor or set of course, it's like a
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driving experience where I'm good at driving cars, so I
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can adapt to that and be quick for f one.
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It's very unique and it's got its only ways of driving.
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It's glue to the road exactly. It's just it's it's
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it's it's quite See.
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The ones that you're talking about in the Dualle, I
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would say the real cars you're driving, right, that's intense
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keeping those things like, I don't know how you get
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fast with them because they're they're like alive, the.
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New four nine nine. So the hypercar for Ferrari the minute,
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it's an awesome car.
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Are you driving at the moment?
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That's kind of I'm driving Lamot Ultimate with a Ferrari
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obviously all Ferraris. I'm the current British four Esports champion
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and won that last year Ferrari and the F four
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cars and again being thirty five, I'm racing a bunch
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of like sixteen to twenty year olds.
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So what's the difference. What do you think any difference
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between can win the first car?
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There you go?
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Right, so there you go? Soinxactly that's euroboy. I'll see
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a difference in you compared to his.
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Everybody does and that's life, right, So you think that's
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the thing everyone's wanting that first corner.
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See you play four Z.
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I know it's an Xbox so even trying to get around,
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if you managed.
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To get the whole game, is I get around.
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The Honestly, last year right there was I think it
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was eight rounds, like sixteen races. Everybody in the championship
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had a penalty point. There you go, bar for the game.
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Right at the start of the season. I've got my
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one of my mates and I'm best mates way and
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we've talked about it, and the Wolf says, the guys
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that I'm going to be racing, they will shunt. Yeah,
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one hundred percent. I made like a muck up on
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round three or four or something.
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And they get something nudges the back.
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Oh, Like, if someone wipes me out, I'm not happy
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about it. But if I make a mistake and crash myself,
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I just have to sort of think it's my fault.
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I can't do it again. I've got the experience where
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stuff like that doesn't normally happen, but it is racing.
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It's just even a b nudge in the back toll
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your front wing's gone on your tires, Conner. So I
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just said to myself, if it comes to it and
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I'm fighting for a place on you go, mate, I'm
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getting championship here, I want points. I want points. I
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want points. And at the end of the year I
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won by and got sixty seventy points, and I remember I
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had one penalty point and other people that got penalty
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points they had a crash and they accelerated when they
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had the crash and they went back into the pack
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and caused a bigger crash. And just experience myself, just
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cam down, just relaxed, and you get too excited way
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and listen. I even still do it some races that
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there's some quick guys. You can feel yourself you're away
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and you need to just be like almost zen and
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just cam your nerves because the more the more you're
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hyped up, and the more you're on your high horse,
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your inputs and your breaking and everything just start being erratic.
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So just being cam and again it's maybe a bit
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of experience. I've done it for so long, I've won
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this championship, I've done this here and that I don't
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really need to go and win every single race. Obviously
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that's my goal, but maybe some of these younger guys
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are just so focused on being at the front. Or
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I even fought last year that Graham Carl, the older
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guy in a Ferrari. I was a bit of a
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target because I'm kind of that's target experience, one that's
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been in it and done all these things, because all
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these guys, I've seen you before. But I just need
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to use use that into my my strong points. And
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it worked well.
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And at the same time, right, nobody's want to see
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you behind them exactly right, so I when to see
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that red car behind them as well. That's an our
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mentality has actually been able to. So what do you
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find trickier then, or what do you like better? Would
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you rather like keep somebody in your sights and then
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take them closer to them? Or do you usual I
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just try and obviously get build a lead. That makes sense,
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But do you find it more difficult? Here's the question.
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Do you find it more difficult keeping somebody just behind
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you or you know, just.
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I do prefer being away in the lead and then
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you can see them or something, or you've got your
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your gap on the screen that you can just there's
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no better feeling. And when you're in the lead and
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you pulled away and it just keeps growing purple, that's
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like that's the ultimate feeling. And a big competition. If
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you're in the lead, sometimes you've got a car behind you.
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They've maybe sometimes got a lot of dirty air, so
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they're actually that's as close as they can get. So
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you need to know like are they just sitting there?
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Are they waiting? And if I'm not in the leads,
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sometimes I really love it's to come through the pack
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like something of reverse grids and I really like coming
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through the guys.
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And so what races do the reverse kid British are.
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Four last year they do a qualifying, you do your
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race and then there's a dice roll that how many
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gets reversed or something.
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So that's so school.
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So so sometimes I was starting it was like sometimes
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twelve and all this and I think not kill. I
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went from fourteenth to second, but second and last corner,
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last lap and then races at that I just really
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really enjoy. But and he's one for.
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You, right, So obviously just from the F one experience
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that you got your soft mediums.
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Your hards in your wets.
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Right, how many different tires do you get on maybe
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on yours, the cars you drive, is it it just.
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Slicks and slicks and wets right in this new hyper car?
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Is that the same budget is that for that's just that's.
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Just the one tire. It's a junior series. It's not
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quite as high as all the other things. And Lama
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Ultimate in the Phone nine nine you've got soft medium's
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hards wets, but that's like a Lama twenty four hour
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races in these cars and stuff, so they can change
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strategies and change tire compounds. But just as we're talking
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about that, the worst feeling is being hunted down. Say
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I've got a six second lead, that it's point five five.
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That's when you start like mentally crazy coming in. If
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they're on like newer tires, you can maybe get that
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in your brain. But if you the same car, like
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fixed setups, so it's the same and they're just hunting
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you down, hunting you down. You're trying to go quicker,
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but then if you make mistakes, they're catching you quickly.
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And you realize sometimes there's only so fast you can
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take any corner.
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It's so see here's one for you.
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Right.
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So basically, if you think you're getting hunted down, right,
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seeing F one once again might experience Obviously there's rules
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that you can do. If somebody's went to overtake you.
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What are the rules like in other racing. Is it
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the same as there is a gentleman agreement or you know,
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making a last minute.
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If you're in a corner and the guy pulls out
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behind you, you can't react to I'm in defend. That's
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like a reactive move. You can once you hit the
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brakes and you start breaking.
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You can't change underbreaking like you say, so it's a
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gentleman agreements, But there is rules in place if one's
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a wee bit going wild with it at the minute,
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like if the car is that if you make.
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A crazy move, you tell someone to get annoyed by it.
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If you're ahead of the apex, it's your corner where
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there's been a few penalties.
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Reversely, that's why Max has been clever about it because
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he would almost I use that to his vantage heat
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so he was able.
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To do that against Lando and it's paid off in
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some of them. So so we don't have like the
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rules and sim racing. And also there is some fair
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rules like in real racing. In real racing, if you
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came at a corner and your rear tire is it
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their front tire, you're almost this honestly, you just pushed
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them off, And that's just how it is. In sim
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racing that is a no go. If you've got an overlap,
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the guy is allowed there. But in real racing, it's
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almost like the fear you just you're going to have
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contact if he didn't back out. But in sim racing
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you sometimes get spun over the front or it's just
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every game is different.
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But what's what goes through your mind and you're sitting
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in the dark in the gravel, What what is going
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through because we feel so bad for people, even information
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laps or you see things and then suddenly then the
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gravel you spend the cough and a lapse they do
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to get to that point through your mind.
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It doesn't happen to me. But I just like you say,
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specially at the start of a race, because these races,
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it's never half an hour or something you put into this.
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It's hours upon hours and day, and if you get
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wiped out, it turns. If you're wiped out, you're probably
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a bit raging. If you've mucked up your cell and
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you've sort of crashed into someone and it's your own fault.
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Sometimes I'm just sorry about maybe hurting someone else he's
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rest Yeah, yeah, but Noah, listen, it doesn't matter what
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it is or what game is. I want to win.
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I want to be first. And if that's not happening,
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I'm not the happiest. But the only reason is is
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because I'm an angry Scotsman. It's not really I'm just Scottish.
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I just I'm just so passionate to do well.
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Do you think that's what helps you? Is real?
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Do you think give you that passion and desire to
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win helps drive you along with it?
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Definitely? And definitely it's I just, honestly, I just kept
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being at such a competitive person. As soon as I
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see others doing well at something or up on a
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leaderboard and something, I've just got to get stuck into
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it myself. But and I honestly I grew up watching
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Cool Tart as well. He was like my sort of
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hero when I grew up, along with my old man.
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And I'm just trying to sort of be liked when
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I was younger and stuff. It's got me to where
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I am and sort of so that's pretty sad.
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I love it, I think.
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So say, for example, then, right, what would be your
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ultimate to drive? I say, just put F one to side.
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I don't go on about everyone. What would be your
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ultimate series if you did?
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Real?
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Okay, real series, real car you love to racing, I mean,
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here's one for you as well, quickly, twenty four of
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them on. Do you think a lot of gamers actually
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do well in twenty four of the morn? Because how
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long do you actually race?
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Four?
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Yeah?
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Well just in generally.
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Honestly, when I was racing for Mark, it was in
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the merk like Hamilton's car was like underneath us in
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the factory right, and I had a struggling for a
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bit of pace down on their simulating and stuff. So
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I went first and got my stint to the way.
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I don't think six hours in a row. Wow, I
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was dying for the toilet, dying six and how many hell?
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And then when I had done that, basically, my two
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teammates went and done the rest of the race. I
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don't maybe I'd done a couple of hours somewhere else.
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But normally, normally you get a set of tires that
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will do like two stints, so you'll do like an
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hour and an hour you're out of the car for
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then your two other teammates will do the same, So
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you've got like a a four hour break, then you're
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backing for another two. Sometimes you'll do four. It really
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just depends on how many guys you've got in the
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car along the races, what the tires last for. All
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that is done within preparation leading up to it, and
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you've tested it and you've seen what's best and what works,
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and you can do.
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A lot blindfolded. Then didn't you do that many? Do
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you know what I mean? Like you say, a night time,
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will you close your eyes? Sometimes?
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I bet it'd be a good chance you could, because
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a lot of it is muscle memory. It's so like
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you're just so used to down shift and turn.
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This it's like a playing instrument.
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I bet, I bet you there's people that could that
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could just shut your eyes and probably go for it
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and do it because it's all force feedback and you'll
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feel the.
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Fun game to try some of the drivers and do that.
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We do it sometimes, and like we'll have like we
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team competitions within the team just for content like ones
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blindfolded and the other guys sort of like telling him
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left or left?
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Do you play the rally games? Rallies?
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I used to play a bit of like Colin McClay rally,
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Richard Burns rally, all that stuff back in the day.
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Like I said, I'm I'm a bit older, so I've
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definitely played them. Maybe not like hardcore gaming. I'm just
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a bit fun, but anything that was a racing game,
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PlayStation one and all that stuff coming through. I've been
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on there.
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I remember, and I feel bad remember forgetting the guy's name.
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Who was the guy there was the hash team leader
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right I went. I went to Edinburgh and I've seen
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he's talking and he was talking about being up in
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the mountains when he was younger, and then he's talking
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about McCray and he said he actually was one of
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the team managers and like for McCray. And he said
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that McCrae was by far the most talented driver, and
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he said it was Carloss Signs's dad was actually mccray's
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number was the other driver. He said, Carlos Signs his
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dad would try and try and try, and he had,
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you know, he was going for it when mccran in
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a sense just had that natural ability and didn't have
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to try it. It was really nice in his stories
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about McCray.
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He's a legends just really such a shame. But what
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a legacy has gotten there, all these focused rally cards
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and of colors and stuff. They're so iconic.
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So you've been in a rally before, how can they
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allow people to stand that close.
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I don't think I've been to like I think like
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idy to go.
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And like a bull fight and watched the rallies the corner.
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It must be mental stuff, But I don't think I've
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been to like a w RC one, but I've seen
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some like fancy rally cars do their stuff. But just
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like you say, gone through the trees and stuff like
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this miles an hour and the tiniest wee crash, I
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go into a gravel and these guys are going straight
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into a tree. So massive respect. But it's I love
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a bit of rally.
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And I really do.
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It's something I've done when I was really younger, Like
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I came out of carts and I got invited to
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like the Ford rally School and I went down and
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we've done like a couple of days at this rally
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school and I ended up winning this little shootout thing.
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But it was just in these buggies and it was
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just funny. My old man had this his mate was
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a farmer and used to go down there where I
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was honestly like nine years old even younger, and used
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to have like these causers, used to slide about in
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them and used to go around these farms. I was
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really quite I could drive a car before I was
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only ten year old and stuff, and we're ripping these
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cars about and just awesome fun. So I've always loved
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the rallying, but I've just always loved single seaters as well,
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like single seater racing. So that's my passion at the minute.
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So so what have.
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We got on the cars now? Then? So what when's
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your next racing?
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So I'm doing the I Racing World Championship f I
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F four So it's again so I'm the British champion
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last year. I'm not doing the British this year. I've
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left up to two of my other teammates. But I'm
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doing the World Championship. So that starts in the twenty
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fifth of next month.
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Nice, And is that I was on Twitch? Where does
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that get on it?
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I'll be probably on twitch I Racing Twitch sorry YouTube
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I Racing as well. So that is you don't get
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the circuit weeks in Advanced Day announced the circuit within
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twenty four hours of the race starting, so it does
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they make it like a big sweat you're up at night,
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you know what I mean. So it's but I'm also
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going to Abby Dabby before the final rounds, so I've
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got that coming up. There's also this l Mu Lamont Ultimate,
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a new game when the scene. It's basically a new
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art factor kind of thing. They're possibly going to announce
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an esports competition at the end of the year coming
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into next year. So honestly, that's kind of where my
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head is at F four thing. There's a lot of
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young guys all want to win it the first corner,
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and my plan is just finish every race. I finished
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fourth in the world last year. It's going to be
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harder this year. But I'm just going to the same approach,
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finish it, try and use my experience.
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Do you know what. I'm going to watch it, mate.
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I appreciate it.
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Thank you very much for you I'm all the best money.
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Thank you.
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Welcome to Control All Good Pete today, and we're joined
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by Graham Carroll from HP Ferrari Esports.
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How are you, Graham, I'm very well. Thank you very
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much for having me.
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Love to have you on.
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I think first time I was aware of your metty
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I think it would have been back in twenty eighteen
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and Resonate.
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I think you were there.
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I think you spoke about he raced for an r team.
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Can you say what team? What was at that point?
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Well, I've done them all right, I.
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Was in how did you starting, Graham?
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Well, let's get get back to a good way to.
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Leave and then you can mention things maybe yeh.
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So my old man used to have a Formula Ford
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racing team, but not Killed before I was born. So
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when I was born.
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From I'm near pow Mill, so I'm actually from that area.
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So yeah, yeah, So I used to go up to
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not Kill and just sort of jump about the tires
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while he was mechanical and looking after the cars, setting
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the cars, watch the races. I think I've just been
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hooked ever since. So as soon as I got to
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seven eight year old by the local car track called Raceland, right,
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I'm old man Mary other way from Edinburgh, sort of
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down the coast, right, So all Man used to go
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to work in the morning and drop me off at
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Raceland with some fuel and I used to lap all
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day and he used to pick me up on the
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way home. So I think so it's so started off
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in go carts with Scottish Champion. I think they finished third,
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fourth and fifth in the British Championships. And this was
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at like nine year old.
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No year was that then?
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That would have been nineteen ninety eight, right right, honestly
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and whenever. Really we just sort of chucked ourself at
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oh Man chucked me in at it deep end right
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into British Championships.
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I was only dropping your kid off and forget the sandwiches,
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as long as left him with the pedal.
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But I think it was the best thing for you. You know,
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let's not worry about little club races, get straight into
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the British Championships and learn from all the good guys.
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And we did so third, fourth and fifth moved their
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way up through the championships. It's like I Scottish Champion.
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A few times we got into cars. I won like
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a three year in a car with a BRDC Jeanetta Juniors. Right,
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We've done that one a few races.
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What kind of car was that?
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It's a Jeanetta Junior, so it's like a little saloon
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car with a roof, but pretty slow and it's for
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like fourteen fifteen, sixteen year olds just to get into racing, right,
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So it started us off there and I moved into
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form of the Ford. So you see them up at
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not Kill. I was starting not Kill a Scottish champion
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of form of the forward British champion. Also one like
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the Walter Hayes Trophy. It's like the biggest race in
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form of the Ford in the year. People from all
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of the world come over. So done a lot of
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real racing, but it just sort of led up to this.
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We're going to go into porshcrea Cup quarter to have
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a million pounds a year and from old man my
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mum that none of us have got that type of money, right,
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so we try for sponsorship. Who really did? But it
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was in two thousand and eight the credit crunch right now,
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and it, honestly it was it was really disappointing. All
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I'd done my whole life was sort of like go
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to race tracks, get ready for races, and a'm eighteen
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year older, I didn't really know what to do with myself.
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So I started playing Granturisma. Yeah, yeah, as you do, right,
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I just I missed the leader board and chasing times
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and being competitive. So I went into Granturismo and I
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could see these times and before I knew it, I
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wasn't the best at the game, but I was one
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of the best in the world at Grandismo.
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And what cars did you go?
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Did you doing? Honestly, it was just anything. There was
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a leader board, just saloon cars, vans like just whatever.
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Granted ismal gamers, right, so it was Carrol Transit Champion,
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so anything and learn all these different circuits. I've never
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known about being doing carting in my real life, so
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that would be good.
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That would have been good.
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Actually, if you spend a lot of time in the
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top of a kill, what's it was the best?
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It's what's the one that that duffest? That?
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Okay?
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So I was Actually I got troubles enough to took
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a walk round it.
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That's steep, and it's how do you take that? Surely
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you can't take it in there?
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It's blind. You just got to go in and you
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can see the carb on the entry and aim for
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the carb and know that when you hit that curb
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you're kindly just sort of taking off. But we've done
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it so many times. But the one the other one
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going up through the chicane's blind as well, and it's
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got like a tire stack that you need to kind
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of skiff right. It's just practice practice. I think if
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you can drive not kill when you go the blind,
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when you go up through the chicane and the hairpint,
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if you can I have not killed aggressively and fast,
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you can go to any circuit in the UK and
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be fast. It takes a bit of balls really with
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us where you go to silvers and it's just flat. Yeah,
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like fast corners where not kill you've really got.
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Your sort of because you can't break in middayre and
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you can't turn in midare, so that that hell for me.
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I always thought to myself, you.
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Can use a wee bit of the x exits put
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half your car into their to get your car. I
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was always in form of the forward, so no no wings.
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It's done to mechanical grips. So you're dancing about, so
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you've got to flick it in and get it angled
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before you even hit the curbs. It's an awesome track
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and even I race and brung it out in the
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last couple of years, something been able to do. It
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happens time on not Kill when I've not seen him
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on there. To be honest, it's not the most popular.
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He doesn't unburg and that he needs to get a knock.
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one driver you may think they're being beaches and now,
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but the fact you're taking it and still doing it.
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a different breed. It's like I was just we're talking
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number Ground twenty four hour with his mates and on
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the on the SIM and he just went, I'm doing
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be so similar. But I know what it's like to
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and go really well, just to transfer it from the
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sim to the real life and obviously to have the
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money to do it's one part, but it must just
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one scene and do something else as.
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not really really cool to see. But but nah to
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away them and stuff.
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never experienced sport like that year that Hamilton lost it.
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them were stapping came off it Silverstone.
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my racing fan. Having that rivalry of those two guys together,
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I've loved hamlet On all my life, but like I've
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got to know Max a little bit and stuff. So
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it's like I really like Hamilton for what he's done
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about himself. Like Max just it's just a pure guy
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like this, ruthless doesn't care about anything else, just racing
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talk about all the greats, right, and I think they've
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all have to have that ruthless because you can't be
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mister a nice guy. You've seen him, but Norris and
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that I used to think about Norris came the track
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a weakness. Max just must look at him and be like,
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ruthless as well when I actually taken that even when
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silly he makes people look, so when they're getting a
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tires warm and that right, and the boy who was
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then as soon as he started doing the weave, and
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he was away doing it.
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For so long as well, and he's old man's done
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Ands as well, and it's just ran the family.
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was on line, I got writing about and I tried
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to help him. Parali where them and we're playing college
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duty to six in the morning. And but but Lando's
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done the SIM racing, but he's maybe not taking it
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seriously for stappings like invested in a top team. I
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was in that team before Red Bull. He's invested in
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the team. He sort of helps everywhere. Now he's as
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passionate as the actual professional SIM racers if he never
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had f one, and even even though he does have one,
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he's honestly one of the best SIM racers in the
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world other top athletes. Did he ever really get that
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involved in Hamilton doesn't even touch us in Really, everyone
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each of their own and stuff.
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the halo side of it.
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like it where it's due. Max do as he's really
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sort of I've done a competition again, I shouldn't really
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say it Posh Cup Sports Pescot's called an I racing.
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and the good was were stapping. He had went through
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the qualification to get there. So again it's really cool
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to have him there, But I say, that's what you
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want even to beat him on the same circuit as well.
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trying to get involved in reade life. And I went
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to the qualifier and the Red Bull guy walked in
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very arcady and unique. I racing a Settle Courser l
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m u. It's like driving a realistic car. I couldn't
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the wheel right, and I remember sitting and the I
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off the That's embarrassing.
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It just shows you compared to the game didn't even
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load up. I didn't even I race him was a
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website to start with. First got onto it. I'm like, so,
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where's the where's the game? I'm rubbish your PC's but ah,
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very unique game. So if I go and play it
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right now. It would take me, honestly eight hours of
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a day. Take it really onto, like a Blake Clear.
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I opt there and I still.
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really really cool.
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When I qualified and got picked at Red Bull, him
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and his old men were there that didn't even kicks
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that day and they were both like, guide, really really guide.
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and I said to him, look, didn't he take it
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as a negative? Here, Yeah, go away, work in ours off,
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get picked by a team, and look where he is now.
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So really really proud of him and what he's done.
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It's it's no like driving a racing car like I
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watched your yard up mer videos. He's the probably one
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of the best guys on it. It's an arcade game
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that caters for a one year old to a knitty
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nine year old. Yeah, if you'd go into I Racing
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or r Factor or set of course, it's like a
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driving experience where I'm good at driving cars, so I
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can adapt to that and be quick for f one.
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It's glue to the road exactly. It's just it's it's
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it's it's quite See.
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would say the real cars you're driving, right, that's intense
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keeping those things like, I don't know how you get
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fast with them because they're they're like alive, the.
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New four nine nine. So the hypercar for Ferrari the minute,
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it's an awesome car.
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Are you driving at the moment?
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obviously all Ferraris. I'm the current British four Esports champion
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and won that last year Ferrari and the F four
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cars and again being thirty five, I'm racing a bunch
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of like sixteen to twenty year olds.
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So what's the difference. What do you think any difference
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between can win the first car?
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There you go?
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Right, so there you go? Soinxactly that's euroboy. I'll see
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a difference in you compared to his.
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Everybody does and that's life, right, So you think that's
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the thing everyone's wanting that first corner.
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See you play four Z.
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I know it's an Xbox so even trying to get around,
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if you managed.
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To get the whole game, is I get around.
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The Honestly, last year right there was I think it
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was eight rounds, like sixteen races. Everybody in the championship
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had a penalty point. There you go, bar for the game.
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Right at the start of the season. I've got my
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one of my mates and I'm best mates way and
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we've talked about it, and the Wolf says, the guys
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that I'm going to be racing, they will shunt. Yeah,
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one hundred percent. I made like a muck up on
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round three or four or something.
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And they get something nudges the back.
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Oh, Like, if someone wipes me out, I'm not happy
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about it. But if I make a mistake and crash myself,
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I just have to sort of think it's my fault.
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I can't do it again. I've got the experience where
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stuff like that doesn't normally happen, but it is racing.
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It's just even a b nudge in the back toll
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your front wing's gone on your tires, Conner. So I
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just said to myself, if it comes to it and
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I'm fighting for a place on you go, mate, I'm
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getting championship here, I want points. I want points. I
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want points. And at the end of the year I
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won by and got sixty seventy points, and I remember I
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had one penalty point and other people that got penalty
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points they had a crash and they accelerated when they
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had the crash and they went back into the pack
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and caused a bigger crash. And just experience myself, just
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cam down, just relaxed, and you get too excited way
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and listen. I even still do it some races that
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there's some quick guys. You can feel yourself you're away
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and you need to just be like almost zen and
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just cam your nerves because the more the more you're
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hyped up, and the more you're on your high horse,
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your inputs and your breaking and everything just start being erratic.
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of experience. I've done it for so long, I've won
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this championship, I've done this here and that I don't
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really need to go and win every single race. Obviously
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that's my goal, but maybe some of these younger guys
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are just so focused on being at the front. Or
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I even fought last year that Graham Carl, the older
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guy in a Ferrari. I was a bit of a
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target because I'm kind of that's target experience, one that's
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been in it and done all these things, because all
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these guys, I've seen you before. But I just need
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to use use that into my my strong points. And
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it worked well.
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And at the same time, right, nobody's want to see
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you behind them exactly right, so I when to see
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that red car behind them as well. That's an our
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mentality has actually been able to. So what do you
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find trickier then, or what do you like better? Would
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you rather like keep somebody in your sights and then
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take them closer to them? Or do you usual I
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just try and obviously get build a lead. That makes sense,
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But do you find it more difficult? Here's the question.
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Do you find it more difficult keeping somebody just behind
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you or you know, just.
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I do prefer being away in the lead and then
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you can see them or something, or you've got your
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your gap on the screen that you can just there's
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no better feeling. And when you're in the lead and
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you pulled away and it just keeps growing purple, that's
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like that's the ultimate feeling. And a big competition. If
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you're in the lead, sometimes you've got a car behind you.
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They've maybe sometimes got a lot of dirty air, so
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they're actually that's as close as they can get. So
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you need to know like are they just sitting there?
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Are they waiting? And if I'm not in the leads,
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sometimes I really love it's to come through the pack
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like something of reverse grids and I really like coming
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through the guys.
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And so what races do the reverse kid British are.
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Four last year they do a qualifying, you do your
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race and then there's a dice roll that how many
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gets reversed or something.
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So that's so school.
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So so sometimes I was starting it was like sometimes
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twelve and all this and I think not kill. I
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went from fourteenth to second, but second and last corner,
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last lap and then races at that I just really
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really enjoy. But and he's one for.
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You, right, So obviously just from the F one experience
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that you got your soft mediums.
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Your hards in your wets.
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Right, how many different tires do you get on maybe
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on yours, the cars you drive, is it it just.
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Slicks and slicks and wets right in this new hyper car?
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Is that the same budget is that for that's just that's.
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Just the one tire. It's a junior series. It's not
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quite as high as all the other things. And Lama
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Ultimate in the Phone nine nine you've got soft medium's
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hards wets, but that's like a Lama twenty four hour
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races in these cars and stuff, so they can change
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strategies and change tire compounds. But just as we're talking
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about that, the worst feeling is being hunted down. Say
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I've got a six second lead, that it's point five five.
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That's when you start like mentally crazy coming in. If
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they're on like newer tires, you can maybe get that
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in your brain. But if you the same car, like
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fixed setups, so it's the same and they're just hunting
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you down, hunting you down. You're trying to go quicker,
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but then if you make mistakes, they're catching you quickly.
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And you realize sometimes there's only so fast you can
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take any corner.
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It's so see here's one for you.
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Right.
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So basically, if you think you're getting hunted down, right,
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seeing F one once again might experience Obviously there's rules
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that you can do. If somebody's went to overtake you.
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What are the rules like in other racing. Is it
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the same as there is a gentleman agreement or you know,
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making a last minute.
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If you're in a corner and the guy pulls out
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behind you, you can't react to I'm in defend. That's
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like a reactive move. You can once you hit the
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brakes and you start breaking.
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You can't change underbreaking like you say, so it's a
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gentleman agreements, But there is rules in place if one's
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a wee bit going wild with it at the minute,
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like if the car is that if you make.
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A crazy move, you tell someone to get annoyed by it.
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If you're ahead of the apex, it's your corner where
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there's been a few penalties.
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Reversely, that's why Max has been clever about it because
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he would almost I use that to his vantage heat
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so he was able.
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To do that against Lando and it's paid off in
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some of them. So so we don't have like the
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rules and sim racing. And also there is some fair
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rules like in real racing. In real racing, if you
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came at a corner and your rear tire is it
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their front tire, you're almost this honestly, you just pushed
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them off, And that's just how it is. In sim
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racing that is a no go. If you've got an overlap,
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the guy is allowed there. But in real racing, it's
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almost like the fear you just you're going to have
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contact if he didn't back out. But in sim racing
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you sometimes get spun over the front or it's just
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every game is different.
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But what's what goes through your mind and you're sitting
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in the dark in the gravel, What what is going
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through because we feel so bad for people, even information
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laps or you see things and then suddenly then the
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gravel you spend the cough and a lapse they do
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to get to that point through your mind.
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It doesn't happen to me. But I just like you say,
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specially at the start of a race, because these races,
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it's never half an hour or something you put into this.
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It's hours upon hours and day, and if you get
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wiped out, it turns. If you're wiped out, you're probably
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a bit raging. If you've mucked up your cell and
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you've sort of crashed into someone and it's your own fault.
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Sometimes I'm just sorry about maybe hurting someone else he's
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rest Yeah, yeah, but Noah, listen, it doesn't matter what
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it is or what game is. I want to win.
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I want to be first. And if that's not happening,
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I'm not the happiest. But the only reason is is
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because I'm an angry Scotsman. It's not really I'm just Scottish.
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I just I'm just so passionate to do well.
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Do you think that's what helps you? Is real?
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Do you think give you that passion and desire to
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win helps drive you along with it?
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Definitely? And definitely it's I just, honestly, I just kept
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being at such a competitive person. As soon as I
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see others doing well at something or up on a
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leaderboard and something, I've just got to get stuck into
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it myself. But and I honestly I grew up watching
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Cool Tart as well. He was like my sort of
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hero when I grew up, along with my old man.
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And I'm just trying to sort of be liked when
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I was younger and stuff. It's got me to where
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I am and sort of so that's pretty sad.
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I love it, I think.
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So say, for example, then, right, what would be your
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ultimate to drive? I say, just put F one to side.
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I don't go on about everyone. What would be your
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ultimate series if you did?
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Real?
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Okay, real series, real car you love to racing, I mean,
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here's one for you as well, quickly, twenty four of
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them on. Do you think a lot of gamers actually
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do well in twenty four of the morn? Because how
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long do you actually race?
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Four?
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Yeah?
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Well just in generally.
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Honestly, when I was racing for Mark, it was in
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the merk like Hamilton's car was like underneath us in
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the factory right, and I had a struggling for a
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bit of pace down on their simulating and stuff. So
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I went first and got my stint to the way.
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I don't think six hours in a row. Wow, I
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was dying for the toilet, dying six and how many hell?
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And then when I had done that, basically, my two
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teammates went and done the rest of the race. I
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don't maybe I'd done a couple of hours somewhere else.
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But normally, normally you get a set of tires that
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will do like two stints, so you'll do like an
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hour and an hour you're out of the car for
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then your two other teammates will do the same, So
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you've got like a a four hour break, then you're
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backing for another two. Sometimes you'll do four. It really
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just depends on how many guys you've got in the
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car along the races, what the tires last for. All
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that is done within preparation leading up to it, and
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you've tested it and you've seen what's best and what works,
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and you can do.
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A lot blindfolded. Then didn't you do that many? Do
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you know what I mean? Like you say, a night time,
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will you close your eyes? Sometimes?
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I bet it'd be a good chance you could, because
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a lot of it is muscle memory. It's so like
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you're just so used to down shift and turn.
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This it's like a playing instrument.
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I bet, I bet you there's people that could that
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could just shut your eyes and probably go for it
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and do it because it's all force feedback and you'll
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feel the.
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Fun game to try some of the drivers and do that.
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We do it sometimes, and like we'll have like we
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team competitions within the team just for content like ones
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blindfolded and the other guys sort of like telling him
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left or left?
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Do you play the rally games? Rallies?
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I used to play a bit of like Colin McClay rally,
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Richard Burns rally, all that stuff back in the day.
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Like I said, I'm I'm a bit older, so I've
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definitely played them. Maybe not like hardcore gaming. I'm just
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a bit fun, but anything that was a racing game,
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PlayStation one and all that stuff coming through. I've been
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on there.
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I remember, and I feel bad remember forgetting the guy's name.
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Who was the guy there was the hash team leader
533
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right I went. I went to Edinburgh and I've seen
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he's talking and he was talking about being up in
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the mountains when he was younger, and then he's talking
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about McCray and he said he actually was one of
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the team managers and like for McCray. And he said
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that McCrae was by far the most talented driver, and
539
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he said it was Carloss Signs's dad was actually mccray's
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number was the other driver. He said, Carlos Signs his
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dad would try and try and try, and he had,
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you know, he was going for it when mccran in
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a sense just had that natural ability and didn't have
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to try it. It was really nice in his stories
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about McCray.
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He's a legends just really such a shame. But what
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a legacy has gotten there, all these focused rally cards
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and of colors and stuff. They're so iconic.
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So you've been in a rally before, how can they
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allow people to stand that close.
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I don't think I've been to like I think like
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idy to go.
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And like a bull fight and watched the rallies the corner.
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It must be mental stuff, But I don't think I've
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been to like a w RC one, but I've seen
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some like fancy rally cars do their stuff. But just
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like you say, gone through the trees and stuff like
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this miles an hour and the tiniest wee crash, I
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go into a gravel and these guys are going straight
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into a tree. So massive respect. But it's I love
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a bit of rally.
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And I really do.
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It's something I've done when I was really younger, Like
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I came out of carts and I got invited to
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like the Ford rally School and I went down and
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we've done like a couple of days at this rally
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school and I ended up winning this little shootout thing.
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But it was just in these buggies and it was
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just funny. My old man had this his mate was
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a farmer and used to go down there where I
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was honestly like nine years old even younger, and used
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to have like these causers, used to slide about in
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them and used to go around these farms. I was
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really quite I could drive a car before I was
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only ten year old and stuff, and we're ripping these
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cars about and just awesome fun. So I've always loved
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the rallying, but I've just always loved single seaters as well,
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like single seater racing. So that's my passion at the minute.
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So so what have.
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We got on the cars now? Then? So what when's
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your next racing?
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So I'm doing the I Racing World Championship f I
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F four So it's again so I'm the British champion
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last year. I'm not doing the British this year. I've
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left up to two of my other teammates. But I'm
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doing the World Championship. So that starts in the twenty
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fifth of next month.
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Nice, And is that I was on Twitch? Where does
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that get on it?
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I'll be probably on twitch I Racing Twitch sorry YouTube
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I Racing as well. So that is you don't get
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the circuit weeks in Advanced Day announced the circuit within
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twenty four hours of the race starting, so it does
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they make it like a big sweat you're up at night,
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you know what I mean. So it's but I'm also
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going to Abby Dabby before the final rounds, so I've
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got that coming up. There's also this l Mu Lamont Ultimate,
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a new game when the scene. It's basically a new
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art factor kind of thing. They're possibly going to announce
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an esports competition at the end of the year coming
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into next year. So honestly, that's kind of where my
602
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head is at F four thing. There's a lot of
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young guys all want to win it the first corner,
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and my plan is just finish every race. I finished
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fourth in the world last year. It's going to be
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harder this year. But I'm just going to the same approach,
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finish it, try and use my experience.
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Do you know what. I'm going to watch it, mate.
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