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Welcome to Conversations with the Hoff.
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I'm Steve Hoffman, your host.
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And with me in the studio, as usual, is the executive producer of Liberty Crack Media, Tripp Detmering.
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Hello, everybody.
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We also have a call-in guest today, Evan Mulch.
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Evan Mulch is the tactical strategist for United Patriots Alliance.
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United Patriots Alliance is a South Carolina-based conservative grassroots organization that frames its mission around God, family, and country, with a strong emphasis on constitutional rights, civil activism, and holding elected officials accountable.
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Oh, wouldn't that be nice?
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Evan currently wrote an article for the organization titled Qatar, Carolina, How Nelson Mullen's Law Firm and Darling Darlene Graham's network established Islamic dominance over USC, over the University of South Carolina.
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Interesting.
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So we're going to talk about that article during today's show.
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So uh welcome to the uh show, uh Evans.
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Before we uh talk, uh, can you tell us a little bit about uh United Patriots Alliance?
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Uh he passed away a few years ago due to the uh COVID um stuff that was done at the medical institutions.
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So he um he's no longer with us, but uh they started the organization to gather patriots for the cause of liberty and to try to promote uh the Second Amendment to try to protect the unborn.
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And and uh our big win was about uh two years ago when we actually we stopped Ed Simmer from keeping his job at the state government level.
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And Ed Simmer was the one that was pushing the COVID regulations on us, along with, of course, with Governor Henry McMaster, but Ed Simmer was really the the person that was used as the the professional doctor.
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Uh we our I think our big win for United Patriots Alliance is when we we uh ended Ed Simmer's reign uh at the at the state level, and he actually no longer works for the state government because United Patriots Alliance made that decision to go after his job.
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And uh but anyways, if I worked many years for the John Burke Society, where we studied conspiracies against America, and that's that's part of the reason why I was able to put together this infographic the way I did, because I've studied the globalist organizations.
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I was surprised to see so much Qatar funding behind Lindsey Graham's network.
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I thought um, I knew he'd supported the Muslim Brotherhood, but I was very surprised that somebody who was so close to Benjamin Netanyahu was also in a network that was getting millions of dollars from the state of for from the country of guitar.
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Yeah, that's quite an uh infographic you get you put together there in the in the article, the Darlene Graham Network.
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So you're gonna go through that a little bit for us.
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Yeah, well, we can start with the Council on Foreign Relations.
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If you're in the John Burch Society, the main organization that they keep an eye on is the Council on Foreign Relations, because that was the globalist organization that was formed in 1921 or 1922 uh to destroy the constitutional republic system.
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And so um if you keep an eye on the Council on Foreign Relations, you just got to keep an eye on their people and what they're doing.
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Well, one of the organizations they formed uh a few decades ago was the U.S.
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Global Leadership Coalition.
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And you can see that at the top of the uh the infographic there, all the people that are connected to the U.S.
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Global Leadership Coalition.
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You've got um you know Hillary Clinton, who's an advisor for that.
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You've got Roxy and Torm, who's also an advisor for that.
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And then you've got David Wilkins and Dick Riley, who are on the far left top corner.
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They're actually the uh state committee chairs for South Carolina uh for the U.S.
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Global Leadership Coalition.
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And uh Dick Riley and David Wilkins um are uh have been partners in uh Nelson Mullins law firm for quite some time.
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I think Dick Riley uh may have retired from that because his his name's no longer visible.
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I'm not I'm not sure what the situation is there, but David Wilkins and Dick Riley are both um the two two of the two they've been two of the top leaders of Nelson Mullins law firm, which is actually Nelson Mullins Riley Scarborough.
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So Dick Riley's name is actually legally part of that uh law firm's name.
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I see yes, yeah.
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Yeah, he recently joined, it was really interesting because he joined the Convention of States Project in their effort to you know destroy a constitutional republic system.
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And he right when he joined the U.S.
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Global Leadership Coalition is also the at the same time he joined the um uh the Convention of States Project as one as one of their advisors.
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And so uh it's no surprise to me that he works, he's been working both for the Commission of States Project and the U.S.
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Global Leadership Coalition.
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It's it's all a strategy to destroy what's left of our constitutional republic system.
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We we all know it's hanging by a thread.
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Uh we we we barely have state sovereignty um because the people don't even know we we we you know can exercise those functions anymore.
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And even at the local government, regional governments are sort of controlling our local governments.
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So we have unelected bureaucrats who, through a through basically an administrative state, are controlling how our our local counties behave.
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Especially in South Carolina, to keep growing the size and scope of the state government.
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So we basically were governed by uh unelected bureaucrats, like you said, in South Carolina.
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Right, right.
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And we have we have groups like the Appalachian Council in the upstate of South Carolina that's sort of a uh a federal federal government arm in the state that that tells our county councils what to do.
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There's a lot of Republicans in this network here.
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I thought the Republicans were uh gonna prov preserve uh America's way of life.
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Never have.
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Never have.
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Yeah, we're dealing with a Uniparty, as you guys are well aware.
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And so these guys, um, if you look at Matt Moore's photo there in the bottom center, it's actually got a uh an arrow pointing to Jamie Harrison, who is a former Democrat national uh the DNC chairman, and they're they're both friends.
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So you you got the former leader of the South Carolina GOP party, Matt Moore.
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Yeah.
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Uh close friends with Jamie Harrison, and and they're working together, they're both part of Liberty Fellowship.
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I imagine there's probably more circles they run in, you know, run in together.
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I I did show a picture of Dick Riley with Jamie Harrison and Matt Moore.
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Um, so if you read the article, that picture is in there.
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And also Republican Representative Neil Collins is in there.
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Neil Collins is no, you know, he's a uniparty guy too, right?
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So we've we're we're we're basically dealing with people who do nothing for the cause of liberty but do everything for the globalists.
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Yeah.
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And they're willing to s they're willing to sell America out because they just really care about money and power.
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They like seeing or or as we're seeing now with the whole Epstein thing, people who are blackmailable move up the ladder, right?
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And so if you have blackmail on you, if they've got that on you, they can um they can put you in power, then tell you what to do.
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I was really shocked when I saw Trey Gowder's picture on that uh network.
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I mean, he's on Fox News.
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I mean, he wouldn't lie to us.
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Well, as as you remember that from the Bhagazi hearings, big Bhagazi um, you know, Hillary Clinton should have been taken down at that moment.
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But he was a prosecutor, wasn't he?
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Yeah, Trey handled her with soft hands during that whole uh ex you know, that whole thing.
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And uh surprise it's no surprise that he was probably put into that whole situation to protect Hillary Clinton.
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He didn't want to be suicided.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean the Clintons have the you know, the Clinton body counts, I think, over a hundred right now, right?
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Um but you know I I've been around Trey Gowdy, I've I've overheard him say things that you know you know kind of hurts my ears, but he was always ex he he he he used to I saw him one time make fun of Jim Dement because he goes, Well, the way the reason you went to you went to Heritage was because you started getting paid real money.
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And that's true.
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Jim DeMint, you know, when he stepped out of the U.S.
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Senate and became the president of Heritage, he started making big time money.
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And uh if if you check the assets of his of his foundation that he has, uh the Conservative Partnership Institute, I mean, uh, you know, Jim Dement's raked it in.
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Well, that's I I could tell when Trey said that he he had this understanding that this is this is all about the money.
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And um that's what that's what Trey's chase.
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He's probably paid a few million dollars a year by Fox News.
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And uh he's done nothing for the patriotic effort.
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He's surrounded by people in Spartanburg County and Greenville County, where he lives and works, by some of the best patriots in America.
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But he wouldn't, he wouldn't go out of his way to make a phone call to any of us to try to help us.
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Yeah, yeah, I can I can understand that.
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And and it does sound sometimes sound like there's this uh underlying current of uh gosh, public servants should be paid like people in the private sector, which is complete malarchy.
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Yeah, I I yeah, I couldn't couldn't agree with you more on on that ridiculous uh kind of assumption.
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And we we do have a lot of South Carolinians that are prominent uh political f figures, but not for the people who are local that are trying to do the fight.
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Um you know, it and it and it's and it's with a lot of parties.
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I mean, I I my uh good friend Spike Cohen, I I always uh joke with him as being a celebritarian.
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Um I think he's I've seen him at one, maybe two uh two two uh organizational meetings in my life.
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So yeah.
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Those of us, those of us who did, you know, a lot of us followed Ron Paul into the Republican Party.
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That's how I did, because I was I was Libertarian Party back in 2009, 2010, and then I discovered who Ron Paul was, and I decided, hey, I'm gonna take a plunge and and do this thing.
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You know, I I knew about the neocons since like 2005-2006, right after getting out of high school.
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There you go.
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Yeah, and and uh but so I I knew it'd be difficult to be in the Republican Party, but I I I I've done it because um I liked Ron Paul's strategy, I like Rand Paul's strategy.
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Yeah, and I think I think Congressman Thomas Massey has actually done it better than anybody with what he's done.
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Uh well we can't have that, gotta get rid of him, and they did.
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But yeah.
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But by but by hanging in there and dealing with the struggle, I've been able to figure these things out for people because a lot of people in the Republican Party are actually really, really good people.
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And they they're just they're just easily fooled sometimes, and there's there's some that struggle just like me, who who know actually what's going on, and they they they they do it just to be a pest to the neocons who control the party.
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And but we're we're yeah yeah, I was just gonna say uh the the the libertarian party is the same way.
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We we've got these uh the establishment um what we call lib socks uh that are in there.
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And um, those of us, I don't know if you're familiar with uh Mises Caucus.
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Um Evan, have you ever heard of the Mises Caucus?
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Yeah, yeah, I'm very familiar.
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Yeah, it's it's Ron Paul's pretty much Ron Paul's organization.
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Um, but uh and he's very influential with us.
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And um, but yeah, it it the fight the fight is real, and what would be ideal is that we could uh somehow coalesce the uh the freedom liberty fighters of both of these organizations to rise up.
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Yeah.
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I always say the progressives have infiltrated every American institution.
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Yeah, and and you know Steve, he's been uh head of the fight on on both fronts.
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He has been, you know, uh parties but darned, you know, we're trying to get the we're trying to get liberty to to America.
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Definitely.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, I I I I think it naturally happens with with the working together.
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I just I think there's people there's differences of opinion on where to choose to fight the battle.
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Oh well.
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And um and and we've we've Well, you have people that choose to fight it on on one front, and then there Steve and I that choose to fight it on all fronts.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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Uh on this infographic, you have two organizations that I'd like to hear more about.
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Number one, the Aspen Institute, and number two, APEC.
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Yeah, so the Aspen Institute was formed in Aspen, Colorado by a man trying to celebrate some Freemason.
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I forgot uh the Freemason has there's a statue of him in a Chicago.
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But um it it it origin I've actually met somebody who was at the Aspen Institute in the early days, and it was originally just a bunch of um, you know, oh I if if she's correct in what she says, these weren't Christians, they were they were against, they were more atheists thinkers.
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Agnostics, yeah.
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Agnostics, yeah.
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Yeah, and and they weren't they weren't trying to create a a globalist empire, but I think about 15 years ago, uh they were pinpointed by the the globalists with a lot of money.
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And I think they were they've been given steroids.
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I mean it's the Aspen Institute is now the premier globalist organization and in Liberty Fellowship, who is connected to it's it's like a uh a sub branch of the Aspen Institute.
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That's located here in uh where I live in the upstate.
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I did not.
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It's actually located in Spartanburg.
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And it's you know, Trey Gowdy's gone through the program.
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Uh you can see on there Kevin Hall, uh who's the agent for Security Strength Pack, he's gone through the program.
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Tim Scott's gone through the program, Matt Moore's gone through the program.
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So it's it's really uh a training program for the Aspen Institute in South Carolina.
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Okay.
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So that's I hope that answers your question, Steve.
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Sure, you had Andre Bauer in there also.
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He's he's uh goes back in South Carolina politics quite a ways.
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Yeah, he was actually crew, he was actually recruited by another branch of the Aspen Institute.
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I think it was called the Road Institute, if I'm right.
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And that was when he was lieutenant governor in South Carolina.
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So he with Kamala Harris actually traveled the world for the Aspen Institute for I think many weeks.
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And that's how they got to know each other.
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Um, I actually had a phone call with Andre a few years ago.
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Yeah, I didn't call with Andre a few years ago, and I was like, I'm gonna warn you about Kamala because it looks like you like her.
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And I said, She's a really bad lady, and he's like, No, I know her.
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I I've traveled with her.
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I'm like, are you kidding me?
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They're drinking buddies.
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Yeah.
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So well, you know, Andre, he actually took some sort of deal, it looks like, to not go against Lindsey Graham.
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Yeah.
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That's sort of though, that's the way it looks like, which is why he's now the um the ambassador for I think Belize.
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Okay.
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Oh, okay.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But he he had a lot, because he was he he had announced his run for U.S.
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Senate against Lindsey Graham, and then he dropped out.
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Yeah.
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Uh as far as APAC goes, let's go to APAC.
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A APAC is what more well known than the guitar money.
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I mean, uh the guitar money, as you can see, went to Nelson Mullins' people and Lindsey Graham's people, and then of course they're donating to Lindsey Graham.
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But APAC uh actually uh if you look through the donors of Security of Strength Pack, which is located in the bottom left-hand corner, they have similar, a lot of the same donors.
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The same donors.
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Okay, so if you go to the bottom right area, uh you'll see Caleb Crosby, who's the who's the co-founder of Crosby Anthoff Group.
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Crosby Anhoff Group is like the tr is like the treasury group, the accounting group for the deep states.
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Okay.
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And and he's actually out of Alabama, but but this Charles Gantt guy, who's just above him to the right, he's the senior VP at Red Curve.
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He his his or he's the guy that actually ran the packs against Thomas Masson.
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Really?
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At least at least he's the agent.
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They call themselves agents, and and I guess legally they're they're they could claim they're neutral on the organization and what it does.
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But in in reality, I think these guys, for the most part, are running the show.
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It'd be good to have an investigation to figure out how that's actually done.
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But yeah, Charles.
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I thought AIPAC was primarily Israeli funding.
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Oh the Israelis funding about Congress.
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Yeah, if you look at the names of the donors of APAC donors, it's they they they generally have Jewish names.
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Um that but I can tell you if you go through Lindsey Graham's donors, just his donors, you you can tell when the donations came in all at once, it's the same thing.
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A lot of these donors don't just donate to APAC, they donate as you know, as as a group to candidates as well.
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And I think I think APAC's gotten such a bad name that a lot of them are still are no longer donating to APAC.
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They're they're finding other ways to donate the money.
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And to support Lindsay Graham, that's been Security of Strength Pack, and that's also uh Palmetto Action.
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Palmetto Action was actually a pop-up pack.
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Hmm.
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Interesting.
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And so a pop-up pack, it should be illegal, but it's not.
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It it pops up right after the last reporting deadline to where nobody gets to see the finances of it until after the election's over with.
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Yeah.
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Um, just real quick, Evan, I because we are referring to this uh graphic that you have.
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That's in your substack, correct?
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Right.
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We we have an article.
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Um I I recommend people go to the archive section.
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Yeah.
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Could you give me the Substack address and then we'll have that in the uh in our for the listeners to to reference in the uh in our reference section.
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United Patriots Alliance.substack.com.
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Substack.com.
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Okay, great.
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Uh we will have that link for our listeners in in the comments.
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And and one recommendation on these, uh, you can actually listen to these articles by pressing the the listen button at the top of each article.
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Awesome.
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And I I think it's very easy to do, even if if for somebody who doesn't like if if somebody doesn't like reading, you can still listen to these articles, and there's a lot of good ones to listen to.
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Yeah, go ahead and out mirror.
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Go ahead and out me on air, yeah.
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Well, I can go deeper.
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If you if you if you don't enjoy reading, I can go, let me go deeper into that conspiracy real quick, okay?
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EBEC.
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So in the 1950s, 1960s, the Rockefeller Rothschild money started going into changing the way kids read in elementary schools.
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And so you basically had an epidemic of kids becoming dyslexic and and not their reading skills went way down.
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And it was only due to the fact that they were using the whole site word reading program, which even in the eights.
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Was deemed to be a horrible way to teach reading.
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Because it's it teaches the wrong side of your brain to read.
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You're supposed to use, I think, the left side of your brain to read, whereas I think the whole site word reading method uses the right side of your brain.
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But um all you got to do to become a good reader and to enjoy it and love it is to start doing to learn the basics of alpha phonics.
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Just like in basketball, when you learn to dribble, when you learn to shoot, you have you learn you get these good reflexes.
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Well, the same thing happens when you study alpha phonics.
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Yeah, a lot of countries are reverting to phonics nowadays.
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Japan has significantly increased its uh lit literacy by going to phonics Namaste.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Camp Constitution.net has the best book on that by Samuel Blumenfield.
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It's it's called I think it's called Alpha Phonics.
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So, anyways, so I I know you want to deep dive more into these new world order, but uh the other part of your article deals with the uh ki Qatar influence uh on how they're expanding the Islamic influence at USC.
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Can you talk a little bit about that?
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So USC the USC's received almost 20 million dollars since 2016 from Islamic countries.
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And I think a lot of that just goes to to pay tuition for for people from those countries.
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So you're you're seeing a a wave, just like we're seeing a wave of Chinese people going to our universities.
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Yeah.
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Something you guys probably didn't see when you were young.
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I I didn't see it very much when I was uh I went to Washburn University in Topeka, Kansas, and graduated back in 2005.
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I I didn't see it that much in that time.
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But um the I had to pay for my school personally.
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Um these kids from other countries, the countries pay for their schooling.
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Now, the country expects them to come back or to or to send money back or whatever, I think.
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Yeah.
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But but in their situations, the countries are paying for their schooling, and that's what's going on at USC.
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So you see a much larger influence of uh Islamic people, and then you see a lot of classes too that are being made available that are for Muslims, and and uh they seem to have a uh a growing dominant influence at USC.
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And I I'll just tie it all to their you know to Nelson Mullins' people.
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Yeah, I love reading about that.
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Yeah, if you look, they received 9.5 million through Faro documents.
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Now that's not a profit, I'm sure they paid expenses on that.
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But from 2006-17 to 2023, they they they brought in 9.5 million dollars.
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Wow.
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Okay.
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Yeah, yeah, and so you got Thad Westbrook, who uh used to be, he's actually Liberty Fellowship as well, so he's connected to the Aspens too.
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But he's actually uh former Board of Trustees chairman for USC.
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Okay.
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And um if if you just calculate the fact that you know their their other partner at the law firm, uh uh Willie Will Hubbard, Will William Hubbard, he he he he becomes the uh the dean of the law school.
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And and the so so basically the Nel Mones people are controlling, it seems to me they're they have a huge stronghold over USC Law School while they're taking the guitar money, and while they're you know, while they're helping what they helped Lindsey Graham, now they're helping Darlene Graham, but it's it's interesting to me how uh this has been this hasn't been reported really by anybody because I've been all over the internet looking for facts on this.
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And and I'm I'm actually the United Patriots Alliance is the first group to to report on on how this all goes together.
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Um yeah.
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William Hubbard also hosted a bunch of Qatar prosecutors at USC, I guess, back in uh 2020.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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And uh, and that's a and that's a favor, right?
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I mean that's that's showing you're in alignment with this foreign country.
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And and they do have Sharia law, although they had they do have a penal quote code that's supposed to always be enforced um in their country, but they can always revert back to Sharia law if they want to, because they are they are in an Islamic country.
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That's what I hope we would focus on because this this is a law, the USC law school.
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Now, are they gonna be teaching Sharia law at the law school?
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Well, who knows what's gonna happen.
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I mean, if you get a bunch of people in charge that'll do anything for money, I I guess they'll do what the people who are paying them want them to do, right?
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Yeah, it's the big thing is oversight.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, so we're we're losing ground on principled people.
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We 50 years ago, we were loaded with principled people in America, and we've we've lost ground.
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I think we do have a younger generation of men and women that are going to be extremely principled, but we we've definitely gone through a couple of generations at least, especially.
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I'm sorry, guys, um, if if this bothers you, but the baby boomer generation, we cre we we kind of lost out on having a principled population.
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Yeah.
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And and that's nothing against um who are baby boomers that are principled.
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Yeah.
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Sorry, Steve.
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What are you talking about?
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I'm a boomer.
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But but and you guys had lived through the hippie movement in a lot of uh movies from Hollywood that were, you know, it's it's it was like a soft MK Ultra program, right?
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But we we've definitely seen you know the effects of having a lack of principled people in a in a older generation.
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And so hopefully that changes in America.
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And uh but yeah, the law school at USC has some sort of uh um who so so here's here's my overall analysis.
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I think Lindsay Graham and William Hubbard were probably together impact trying to queer the world.
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Yeah, yeah, that's LBGTQ and the World Justice Project that you talk about in your article.
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Yeah, so I think they were probably not on the side of you know stoning people for participating in homosexual relations.
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I I I think I mean I think that's that's a given, right?
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But it's it is a it's a teeter-totter.
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When you're taking money from a country like Qatar, and and maybe you're trying to right, maybe you're trying to win over them, but at the same time, they can win over you.
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Yeah.
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Well, the queers for Palestine might really, you know, take offense to that.
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Well, it's all interesting, isn't it?
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Yeah, it is.
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I I was gonna say another aside, I was so happy to find out that my uh my age group got cut out of uh the baby boom generation.
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They created Generation Jones, so uh that's why I get to tease.
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So I I'm confused on why they would push the LGBTQ agenda with the help of Qatar, because the death penalty for consensual same-sex relations is uh going on in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Qatar, and United Arab Emirates.
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Useful idiots.
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Yeah, Rupert Murdoch, yeah, Rupert Murdoch and others that control the media organizations.
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One of the things they did to Palestine is they they gave them you know TVs to watch and you know TV programming, but they they forced in uh a porn channel that you couldn't turn off.
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Yeah.
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And so you there there are ways you destroy countries, and and by querying them, that destroys them to where they're no longer uh a people of fi of traditional families, and then it's easily it's easier to take them over.
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So uh Lindsey Graham, I don't think, was was wanting I I think he I think he enjoyed the queering of countries, you know, to some degree.
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But I I don't think he was doing it for the same reasons Rupert Murdoch would do it.
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Because Rupert Murdoch would do it to to uh insert his his influence.
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Yeah.
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I think I think Lindsey Graham was more of just a um you know a uh a useful person for that purpose who who just wanted money and power and wanted to enjoy the life in the way he wanted to enjoy it, really.
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Well, and then if that meant yeah.
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We talk about useful idiots, and then we've got his sister, yeah.
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And these are people that are easily influenced.
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Uh they're they're influenced by money and power, and um they they really don't have any character uh within themselves to to formulate their own their own opinions.
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You talk about I think yeah.
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You talk about I think Darling Graham I think Darlin Graham is a um is gonna be useful, but you you never know when something's gonna change.
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Yeah.
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And that's that's what we can hope and pray that happens, and that's what happened to Charlie Kirk.
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Charlie Kirk was uh he was he g he he gave into the money and he did what the people who had money wanted, and then when he turned against them, yeah, uh I think that's when they got rid of him.
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Well, I hope our listeners get a chance to to listen to the debates uh for the SCEDU because it's going to be one of the few times that they get to hear from Dr.
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Casey Whitner uh to go against the Uniparty.
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Yeah.
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So I'd like to talk a little bit more about this World Justice Project and how they're pushing the LGBTQ agenda.
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Right.
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You do that in the article.
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Well, the World Justice Project is uh a foundation that's led, I mean, it's it was started by William Hubbard, who's now the dean of the law school.
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He's also a former partner of Nelson Mullins.
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But uh even I think 15 years ago or so, he had this Shaky Abdullah Al-Masnad Misnad, who's the former president of Qatar University, and she's been on the board of World Justice Project since 2011.
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And and so she's William Hubbard's connection with Qatar may have been the reason Qatar started having so much influence over USC and over you know uh the state of South Carolina.
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But I I think uh when it comes to their their index, it's a lot like the freedom index of the New American magazine, which as you guys know is is a John Burch Society index.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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And and and you mold uh legislators based upon that freedom index, and I think that's what they're trying to do with the World Justice Project, is they're trying to tell country, because this is something that's shared at the United Nations, they're trying to tell countries, hey, if you want to mold yourself to being number one, you've got to do these things.
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And one of those is is you have to give in to um gender confusion and and and um and homosexual relations within your country and and and you know kind of get rid of the traditional family that that your country's you know um had for so many centuries.
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So it's just um it's it's it's a way of molding countries around the world.
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I think that's why there's there's uh there's money behind it from the book was destroying cultural cultural institutions, also.
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It's also Saturday night at uh Steve's house, but yeah.
00:34:58.729 --> 00:35:12.089
So there what I don't understand also in your article, you talk about Qatar versus Bulgaria, and Qatar is rated high up there on that uh the rankings, but Bulgaria is much lower.
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But yet Bulgaria is against LBGTQ.
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They have programs against it, and Qatar throws these people off of uh buildings or whatever.
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So how do you rate how do they rate higher?
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It's it's actually hard to get details on what happens in Qatar to people involved in homosexual relations, but there is the death penalty, I think, on the books for those that are involved in that.
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But yeah, so I I think Bulgaria has stood up for traditional Christian families, and I think the I think I mean it's not just the index, yeah.
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Uh the World Justice Project Index, but I think I think globalist countries, those that are really pushing it, are are uh are gonna treat Bulgaria like it's a black sheep.
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Oh yeah.
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And and and Bulgaria, give it credit, a few years ago it actually uh it went against the LGBTQ movement and said we're not gonna we're gonna not gonna allow that stuff in our schools.
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And and that's the opposite of what South Carolina did.
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Uh the agent for Security of Shrink PAC, which is Lindsey Graham's PAC, he's actually the one through his uh you know, he's an attorney.
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Uh he he's actually the one that got opened the floodgates to where LGBTQ curricula curriculum could be taught to kids in South Carolina at public schools.
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And his name's Kevin Hall.
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But I I was a witness of that first.
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Sorry guys, I lost my mic there.
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I was a witness of that first hand because my wife was a public school teacher at the time.
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And right after that law was passed was when she and other teachers in her school district got notifications of presentations they were supposed to be teaching.
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Oh yeah.
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And these and these presentations were so disgusting that they were not even as teachers, they they couldn't stomach them.
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Yeah.
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And and it wasn't until uh people rebelled against it that that that all stopped.
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But that doesn't mean they're I I'm telling you, because of Kevin Hall and because of Lindsey Graham, they're still squeezing that into curriculum in South Carolina.
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Well, it's quite an article.
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Like I your article kind of shows how this particular network is doing what they can to destroy the American way of life.
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They're pushing the LGBTQ agenda, they're pushing the Islamist agenda.
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It's it's quite an article, and uh I want to thank you for uh coming on our show and uh giving us a good summary uh of the article.
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Um You're welcome.
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I've always uh go ahead.
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Yes, it's been a pleasure being honest with you.
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Thanks, guys, for doing this.
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This is uh you know, this is the hard work that we have to do to get the you know, it's an education war out there.
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I know you guys are part of it.
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Oh, yeah.
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I hope that uh this particular show has been a wake-up call for our listeners because uh it having powerful South Carolina educators, businessmen, and politicians, I think they've made a terrible mistake by giving the Islamists a foothold into our beautiful Palmetto State, primarily the University of South Carolina.
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I mean, if you look today at the the UK, France, Sweden, and other European countries, they're currently dealing with the consequences of Islamic expansionism.
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And I think your article shows where we actually have our our leaders helping with that.
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Other countries like Poland are not allowing any Muslim immigration into their country.
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And Georgia too.
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Yeah.
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And Bulgaria seems to be fighting it also.
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Yeah.
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Now I don't have the answer to what's going on.
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All I can only say is Houston, we have a problem.
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Definitely have a problem.
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So thanks again, sorry about that.
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Yeah.
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Thanks again, Evans, for this highly uh informational uh uh episode.
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And now I guess we'll turn it over to our emir and glorious leader, the executive producer of Liberty Crack Media, Trip Detmering.
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Yes, I want everybody to uh put their mats on the floor facing north and uh start doing your prayers for my Green Bay Packers.
00:39:23.769 --> 00:39:29.449
It looks like their uh their offensive line is tissue paper, and we hope we can cure that.
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Um I hope to get lop off the heads of all those who uh who are hoping that the bears uh keep improving.
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Um anyway.
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We'll we'll have our own our own sharia law uh made by the cheese heads here in the future.
00:39:51.369 --> 00:39:54.009
Uh but Evan, this has been great.
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I I I really, really want people to go to um to our uh United Patriot Alliance.com and look through everything that they've got.
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Uh I mean this is uh education that people have to be aware of.
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And again, we always urge all of our listeners to do research, do deep dive, and uh get to know everybody that's in here and and partner.
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Don't worry about whether somebody is uh uh Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, freedom, uh you know, any of these things.
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Whoever has got the uh the right mind to correct the United States to bring us back to our constitutional foundations, that's what we're looking for.
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We've got to come together, we've got to unite, we've got to fight.
00:40:46.169 --> 00:40:49.209
So Evan, I hope we get to hear more from you.
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And uh, and uh you sound like you've got a great sense of humor, and we've got some humor programs that we'd like to have you on, too.
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Uh, don't have anything to do with politics, we just uh talk about uh crazy things and and laugh about them.
00:41:04.089 --> 00:41:10.969
So um, everybody get to know uh Evan and and his organization and the ideas.
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And this has been another fantastic uh episode of Conversations with the Hoff.
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Uh Evan, please stick stay on the line with us afterwards.
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We'd love to talk to you.
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Thank you.
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Lean in close got a question in a black off the glow from campus quads to the capital steps.
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We're talking to the conversation with the hall, baby, conversation with the high, turning up and turning over.
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Or in between Old School roots and a freedom dream.
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All that three.
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See what you find.
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One more question.
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We're out of the time.
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Conversation with the off with a big ticket issues, liberty traditions.
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Are you laughing?
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Conversation with the hope.
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