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We sit down with business strategist and author Curtis Asbell to talk about how leaders create real momentum without drowning in a never-ending list. We dig into practical tools like the Most Important Task, 15-minute focus blocks, and team-based problem solving that turns good intentions into consistent action.
Tune in to hear about:
• finding the real constraint instead of reacting to the loudest problem
• using the Most Important Task to define a successful day
• building momentum with 15-minute focus sprints plus short breaks
• involving teams by going to the Gemba where the work happens
• giving people permission to “stop the line” and surface issues early
• connecting faith and stewardship to practical strategy and execution
• using coaching and accountability to improve the talking-to-doing ratio
Connect with Curtiss Asbell on social media and gsdprofit.com. Tune in to hear how to take advantage of his 12 free weeks of group coaching around all the GSD profit acceleration concepts that will help you experience quick wins and lasting gains.
Until next time, keep doing great things!
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Welcome to Conversations for Leaders and Teams, where today we have my friend Curtis Aswald, who is a business strategist, author, and founder of GSD Profit Acceleration, where he helps entrepreneurs generate more leads, increase profits, and build stronger businesses with degrees from Purdue University and Indiana University, plus more than two decades of experience helping business owners accelerate growth.
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He combines analytical thinking with practical results-driven strategies.
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Curtis is the author of several business growth books, including his latest release of Quick Wins, Lasting Gains, the 45-minute method to transform your business starting now, which shows business owners how to uncover immediate opportunities for growth and profit.
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He holds a lean six Sigma Slack and a platform coach certification and has worked with clients across industries ranging from manufacturing and insurance to health and wellness, known for helping entrepreneurs find hidden revenue opportunities and get measurable results.
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Curtis lives by the motto get stuff done.
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Welcome in, Curtis.
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How are you today?
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Thanks.
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I'm looking around, wondering who this guy is that you're talking about.
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Wow.
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I'm doing great.
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So genuinely excited to be here just to spend a few minutes with you today.
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Thank you, Dr.
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Cowdy.
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Yeah, you are welcome.
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Tell us where you're coming to us from today, Curtis.
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Well, today I'm coming to you from hot and sunny southwest Florida.
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I'm in Naples.
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And just because I'm here doesn't mean I don't have quite the global reach thanks to technology, but definitely loving the life that I'm living and the ways that I get to serve.
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That's right.
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Amen to that.
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I so for the the layperson, what is this lean six sigma black belt?
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I've heard it, I'm sure other people have heard it, but what exactly is that?
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Yeah, sure.
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That is really an opportunity to learn or work with businesses as a certification I received uh really about operational excellence, operational efficiencies.
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So if you think about any kind of a process, whether it's manufacturing something or delivering a service, lots of opportunity for things to go wrong in a process and really working to create the most effective, least waste way to run a process.
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Yeah.
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Well, thank you for explaining that.
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I know so many times in people's bios, you know, they're hearing things, it's like, well, what the heck is that?
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And instead of going, you know, to technology to find out, thanks for explaining that.
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I appreciate you.
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Yeah.
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Well, it sounds like from your bio and from what I know of you, you do help a lot of a lot of people uh across industries.
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And I would love to know, do you ever find yourself like a particular segment that either you gravitate and are passionate about, or maybe that segment finds you because they're passionate about the work you do?
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Yeah, that's a great question.
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So most of the success that we have is working with businesses that currently generate less than a million dollars a year in revenue.
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The sweet spot is somewhere between 250 to 750K a year, which I think lends itself well to mostly home services providers being attracted to us.
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So our original go-to-market was very broad.
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And just as time has gone by, we we have found a sweet spot in that area, I think simply because there are a lot of businesses kind of in that range.
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But I I mean, I recently delivered large projects for a healthcare uh system, you know, and I mean, like we run the gamut, led that work, and that secured over a$40 million investment for five years worth of growth programs.
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So, you know, kind of my my passion, I guess, if you will, is to really take those skills that deliver that type of work and share that with the main street folks who I believe really are the engine of our economy.
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So it it lets me do the both best of both worlds.
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It gives folks who are out there getting the work done every day the opportunity to access a set of skills, I think that they may not always be able to have access to.
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So it sounds like that you you're in the corporate as well as nonprofit, small business, medium-sized business, as well as helping Christian leaders.
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Is that correct?
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Absolutely.
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Yes, ma'am.
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Well, probably don't talk about it too much.
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I am an ordained minister with the Assemblies of God, so I do do my fair share of ministry work, love serving nonprofits, yes, have several corporate had several corporate roles, and then spend my spare time working with small businesses and entrepreneurs.
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I'm just I am for those in in your audience, certainly that would be familiar with scripture, you know, John 10, 10, I am living the full life that Jesus promised me.
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You know, I feel like that I have been given the opportunity to have a lot of talents and gifts and really just trying to be a good steward of those.
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And one of those gifts is the amount of energy of it I have and bring to the table every day.
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So, you know, not everybody has the capacity that I do, which is really an important statement to make, I think.
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I'm I don't have a bar that someone should try to achieve or attain or be like.
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Amen to that.
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Wow.
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Well, many Christian leaders they feel called to make a meaningful impact, like what you're doing, uh, but they also can feel overwhelmed.
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Now, you just said sometimes people don't have the capacity because things are complex when you are leading a business or a team.
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So, how can leaders begin creating this momentum without feeling like they need to fix everything that needs to be fixed at once?
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Yeah, that's a great question.
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I brought an example today, kind of almost by accident.
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It's sitting on my desk staring me in the face.
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So I want your audience to know you you use the word practical in the introduction.
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This is not theory.
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This is Curtis's to-do list for yesterday.
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I don't know if you can see that from the blurred background, but you know, it's a list, it's got handwriting all over it.
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I keep a notebook here.
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So, you know, I do know what I'm talking about when I think, you know, I could look at a list, I've got all this stuff at once.
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But really, I I start by naming what is the real constraint that's keeping me from making forward progress, not just what's screaming at at me the loudest right now, or what's bringing me the most frustration right now.
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So despite the fact that I might have a list of 20 things that are dated to get done today, really there's one most important task, my MIT, that's on that list.
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That if that's the only thing I get done today, I could say I had a good day.
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But usually I start out with, you know, three to five things I really want to be able to accomplish from that list today.
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Try not to work to my calendar, try to work to my list, right?
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And that means say that again.
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Yeah.
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So I I have meetings, right?
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So I have to I have to take care of those in my calendar, but don't work too much to my calendar nearly as much as I work to my list.
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And that helps me make sure that I'm getting forward progress on the things that really need the attention.
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Hmm.
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And the MIT is the most important thing, is that most important task.
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Task.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Most important thing.
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Yep.
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Either way.
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All right.
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Excellent.
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I was guessing.
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Yeah, there, and the reason I do that is because momentum often starts with that one focused action, because that drives out all of the other things that are on my mind.
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It brings clarity to the moment of what I'm trying to do.
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And as I work through that and complete that, that builds confidence and momentum to continue on to the next task.
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And as I'm sitting here thinking about it and thinking about the work you do and the energy you have and the capacity that you have, I'm sure that when the leaders and teams connect with you, a lot of that overwhelm for them probably goes away.
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What makes you think that?
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Well, because I feel like they have a partner in it with them.
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They have somebody who has stepped in to help them.
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Right.
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And they still have to do the work.
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But I feel as though when a leader has a partner, when a team or when an organization has somebody who knows their stuff, who, as I said, has the energy, has the capacity to help them, and they can really understand that stuff is going to get done because now Curtis is in the mix.
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I think that's important.
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Yeah, that's part of why I say together we get stuff done, right?
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Like you're not just giving me another list of my, you know, I have my own list.
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I don't need.
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Your audience knows this.
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It if you're an entrepreneur, uh, it's all on you, right?
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So who do you have in your corner to think out loud with or to strategize with, or you know, just to blah jump rush, right?
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Like I I have I have coaching calls every day.
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And I mean, we have an agenda, but I never really know what is going to happen necessarily during that call unless we're working on a particular project or strategy.
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And that is the beauty of coaching.
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Love it.
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Love that.
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Yeah.
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Living in the moment.
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Well, I mentioned your book in the, and you have, you know, several books, but your book focuses on the idea of quick wins that lead to lasting gain.
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So lasting, important word there.
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Why are small, why are the small focused actions that you talk about so powerful for leaders who are trying to grow a business or strengthen a team or steward their organization well?
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Yeah, small actions reduce friction.
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So, you know, it's think about that.
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And it also makes progress visible.
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So, example the list, right?
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Even if I have one most important task, even if I know that most important task is going to take me three or four hours to complete today.
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And, you know, I mean, I don't know if you ever have this experience, but some days I just don't feel like showing up at the office and doing my work.
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But in those moments, what's the goal?
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15 minutes at a time.
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I'll put my AirPods in.
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I will put on some music or some brainwave things, and I'll set a timer for 15 minutes.
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I will work diligently for 15 minutes.
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I'll get up and take a five to 10 minute break, and then it's right back at it to 15 minutes.
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By the time I do that two, three, four times, I'm now able to go two, three, four hours just simply because I created the momentum.
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So what happens is physically you start to stack, right?
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Because you have invested the time in your most important task.
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It's very important to you, or it wouldn't be your most important task, whether you feel like doing it today or not.
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And by the time you get that ball rolling, it kind of keeps rolling.
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So, you know, law of the big Mo, if you will, uh, to a John Maxwell reference there.
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And because you're seeing the progress and you're reducing the friction 15 minutes at a time, uh, you're able to stack the progress essentially.
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Hmm.
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Have you found that when you you talk about this with leaders as something that they can incorporate into their day and get some success from it?
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Is it difficult for them to stop what they're doing?
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We model it.
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So, you know, it's not beyond us to demonstrate that with a 15-minute call instead of a 45-minute call, right?
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So if we model that a few times, it starts, they start to work that muscle out and learn, like, okay, I just have to stay focused for the next 15 minutes.
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What am I going to accomplish in that amount of time?
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Well, I think we've been on about 15 minutes, so I think we should go.
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Time flies when you're having fun.
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No, I love that.
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That is that is great.
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Yeah, thank you.
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That is and go ahead.
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Thanks.
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The I mean, the challenge with that sometimes, right?
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If I'm taking a five to ten minute break every 15 to 20 minutes, you know, I'm losing about losing air quotes.
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Yes.
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You know, about I could lose up to a half an hour every 60 to 90 minutes, right?
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But the function there really is at the end of the day, it does enable me to go longer.
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So I might put in, and I don't do this every day, but I might put in a 12, 13, 14 hour day, but I really only worked, you know, eight to nine hours, 10 hours maybe.
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And then that those breaks, I mean, that's where I mean, I might have something else on the list do around the house, or I may respond to three or four email messages while I'm taking a short walk and being on my break.
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Mm-hmm.
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That was me last night.
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Put in a lot of hours, but got up a lot.
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Yeah, and that's okay.
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I think that it is okay.
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Yes, yes, yeah, yeah.
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Giving myself permission to do that in the beginning was really hard, but once I did it and did it and did it and did it, I was like, oh, this works for me.
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Yeah, you work that muscle.
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Yep.
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Mm-hmm.
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Excellent.
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All right, let's talk about some teams here.
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So, how can leaders involve their teams in identifying constraints, solving problems, and creating progress rather than carrying the full weight of transformation by themselves?
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Yeah, this goes back to my lean training.
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They call it you go to the Gemba, you go to where the work is done.
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And the example here is where this all started at Toyota was at Toyota back in the 70s.
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Anyone on the production line could stop the line if they saw like a defect.
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And the defect is something that if it gets through, it's a problem.
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So if you stop, you catch it and you stop it, it's not a defect.
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If if it gets through to you and it's not the way that it should be done, it's a defect.
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So they gave everyone on the line permission to stop the line if they noticed something that would create a defect.
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And it and I have been guilty of this as a leader myself, right?
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I'm the leader, I know a lot, I have a lot of answers.
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If you come to me, I'm probably going to give you one.
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And it's taken me a lot of opportunity to train myself to ask better questions, not just give an immediate answer, and to ask those questions of the people that are closest to delivering the work in any part of the process, because if they believe that you want to hear them, they will tell you, and then you have the opportunity to fix it.
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Yeah.
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And and when it comes to teaming or teamship, I think it's important, you know, as you say, for for leaders to give their people permission, right?
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Just like with with the Toyota, they had permission to stop the line.
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And so leaders with their teams have to give their teams permission to raise their voice.
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Yep.
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Right?
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Stop the line, if if if you will, with with certain things.
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What might be some other examples that you can think of?
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Yeah, I mean, if you think about the the idea that ownership creates energy, right?
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Like this is my, I'm responsible for this.
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And so if you let me own that, I'm gonna do the best that I can at it.
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And it can be really challenging, I think, in our environment.
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Social media is so loud at us, and I think that there's an incredible opportunity to not believe that you have as much agency as you really do have.
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And so, you know, if you can take pride in your work, if you can do the kind of work that, you know, you either feel called to do or love doing, or maybe even more importantly, learning, you know, in in some of our circles, right?
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Learning how to do or enjoy the work that the Lord has provided for you, you know, you then have this opportunity to really have this enthusiasm or energy toward delivering.
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One of my favorite scripture references is from Colossians chapter three, and it talks about like don't do the work like you're working for man, like do the work like you're working for the Lord.
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And I feel like I get so many opportunities to remind believers of that because you know, not everybody is involved in the ministry, not everybody is a pastor, and I I believe that your calling to work, regardless of the role, is just as much of a gospel sharing opportunity and calling, perhaps, as being someone like a pastor.
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Yeah.
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I don't and I think people have an opportunity to look at the work they do as their ministry.
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Absolutely.
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If they're passionate about it, it doesn't have to be, oh, I'm part of a church.
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This is you know, it has to be a ministry out of a church.
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It's here we are.
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Everyday life ministries.
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Thank you for helping me say that so much more eloquently.
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Yeah, that is exactly the point.
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Yeah, awesome.
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Well, let's talk about you're a coach, you're a leader.
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So for Christian coaches and business leaders, how do faith, stewardship, and practical strategy come together when helping people move from good intentions to meaningful action?
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So what is that?
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We have good intentions, but many times it just stops there.
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And I see this all the time.
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It's like we talk a lot about our intentions, but getting it across the finish line, having that momentum and that meaningful action.
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What does that look like?
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Yeah, I don't know if it would surprise you, but I have a coach, you know, I kind of you know eat my own soup over here.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And we we talk about the talking to doing ratio.
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And so, I mean, part of part of just from a tactical perspective, right?
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Having the accountability, like I'm not going to go to too many meetings with my coach saying the same thing without having done something.
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And I mean, as as much stuff as I get done, you would not believe how often I have this flurry in the two hours before I meet with my coach because I committed to getting some stuff done before we talked again, right?
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And so, I mean, again, back to like in case you wonder if this is all theory or you know, I'm living this out myself.
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But that's right.
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In combination, right, our faith gives us purpose.
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So, why do I invest the capacity that I have, the resources that I have in working with leaders, working with entrepreneurs?
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It's because I believe that that's part of my purpose and my calling.
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That then becomes a stewardship question.
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So, you know, what am I doing with my time?
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What am I doing with my energy?
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What am I doing with my money?
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What am I doing with my skills?
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And how am I being responsible with that as part of what I believe is my calling?
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And then you quickly move then into the strategy part, which provides us some structure, right?
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So we talk a little bit about we've all known people who have good intentions, but they don't necessarily accomplish all of the or you know as much of the things as they talk about a lot of pie in the sky, right?
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So you can do one of two things.
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You can either develop a strategy to do the work yourself, or you use the strategy to help you uh, you know, draw uh team members to help you implement that vision or these ideas that you have.
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And so the strategy really, I think, helps you have a framework of guardrails or a box to work within that help you make the progress that you say you want to make so that you don't, you know, let two years, five years, ten years go by, and then you're like, well, it's too late now.
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That's right.
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It's still on the list.
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Yeah, very much.
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And how important was it to begin with?
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Sometimes the question is too, right?
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Yep, yep.
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Because we give our time and attention to things that we feel or know are important to us.
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We forget how important the here and now is, right?
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As coaches, we talk about how important it is to be present.
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Just if you if whatever you have in your hands, like use it.
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You know, there's there might be a path to where you're trying to get to tomorrow, but if all you're ever thinking about is tomorrow, you're not really practically useful today.
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That's a word.
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Somebody needed to hear that.
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I'm honored that I get to be the one to share it today.
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Yes.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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Gotta be faithful with what's in our hands right now.
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That's right.
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That's right.
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And sometimes looking down the road too.
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I mean, leaders are visionaries.
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Most leaders are good leaders.
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They're visionaries, but they still have to look and be present.
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And in the work that I do, I found so many times they're so focused on the future that they forget the present and what's happening.
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And that can get them in trouble.
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Yeah.
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So you either need to have somebody on your team that can help you navigate that day in and day out, or you know, you need to be able to make sure you have enough integration into that that you're making forward progress on that over time.
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That's right.
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So good people around you, having a good team around you, but then having like a coach partner with you to help you.
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And and the team can help a leader be accountable as well as the coach.
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And I think too many times that word accountability, people see it as a dirty word, if you will.
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Like people don't like it.
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And instead of looking at it that way, seeing how much of a gift accountability can be towards the mission, vision, purpose, all those things for the future.
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Yeah, that's so true.
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And anyone can help you be accountable if you're just willing to tell them out loud what it is that you want to accomplish.
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So, you know, yes, I have a team, and part of, I mean, you have to be emotionally healthy enough, right?
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You have to be open-minded enough.
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But yeah, my team holds me accountable if for no other reason I tell them these are the things on my list that I'm working on.
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And again, back to like how many conversations am I going to come to you, Dr.
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Kelly, and say the same thing over and over again and not having had made any progress on it.
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Yeah.
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Nobody wants to feel that.
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Right.
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The trick is creating an environment that's safe enough.
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That's right.
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Which is, you know, that's a whole nother job on its own.
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Yes.
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Yeah, accountability is like a whole nother just podcast on accountability, accountability, what that looks like.
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How do you implement accountability and and all that?
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Such an amazing, amazing topic that is often people just they don't like taking accountability or incorporating accountability into their leadership.
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Yeah, it's hard.
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I think our culture here in the West doesn't really serve that, right?
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There are lots of opportunities to be and granted, right?
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It's not a perfect place to live, but there are lots of opportunities to be the victim.
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There are lots of opportunities to give your agency to someone else.
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And I mean, we're sharing a lot of great stuff here today.
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But if if the only thing that someone hears me say today is you have agency and you can live a much more amazing life than you think you can.
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Uh you just have to get started today.
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Like it would be worth all the prep and you know, anything else we might have gotten ready to talk today.
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Yes, I agree with you there.
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Yeah.
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There's so much energy out there, Dr.
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Kelly.
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Mm-hmm.
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There is.
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And and many times it takes hearing something, just like what you said, and then giving yourself permission to take the next step with that.
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Yeah, I had to hear it.
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Somebody had to tell me.
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Multiple somebody's had to tell me.
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And now we're trying to do it too.
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Yeah.
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Hey, we're all in this together, this thing called life.
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Indeed.
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And we're not perfect.
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Nobody's perfect.
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Just strive for that excellence.
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And whatever that level of excellence, you know, you can strive for, that's terrific.
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I agree totally.
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Yeah.
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Well, I always love sitting down with you, my friend, and hearing what's going on with you and your business.
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And I would love to give you the last word as we wrap up around all that you brought today with having impact and be able to get stuff done together, right?
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And all those wonderful things that you shared.
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So what say you for your last word?
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First of all, like I can't believe how fast the time goes by whenever we're together.
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So thank you for that.
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Uh, you know, people can find me on the socials, Curtis Asbell.
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See two S's on Curtis, super easy to locate.
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Follow me, send me a message, yada yada yada yada, whatever.
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Would love to have the chance to interact with you.
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And as a just kind of a special thing for your audience today, I I mean, uh, you can find me at gsdprofit.com, gsdprofit.com.
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But uh if you'll send me a message, tell me that you heard me on Dr.
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:37.359
Kelly, uh, you saw us in the magazine, whatever, whatever.
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Uh, we're offering your audience 12 free weeks of group coaching around all of our profit acceleration concepts um that will help you experience those quick wins and lasting gains.
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So I just thank you for having me today.
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And um, as always, yeah, this was a blast and uh love getting to talk about and share more about how we're getting things done over here.
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Excellent.
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Well, thank you so much, Curtis, and thank you for that gift for people.
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Definitely.
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I hope that they take advantage of that.
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People, Curtis is the real deal.
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And so thanks for coming on conversations for leaders and teams.
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And until next time, you keep doing great things.
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We'll see you soon.
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Yep, thanks.
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I will.
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Bye bye, Dr.
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Kelly.
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Bye bye.