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Speaker 1: WTLC AM, W236 CR Indianapolis. Broadcasting from the Praise Indy Indigo Studios. Discussing the issues that matter to you. It's Community Connection with Tina Cosby on Praise AM 1310, 95.1 FM.
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Speaker 2: Well, good afternoon. It's Eric Garns. Tina's on her way in. She's been down at the Walker Center and had a chance to meet and interview the one and only Angela Davis, who's in town and... had a chance to give a speech there, and Tina had a chance to talk with her as well, so she'll be coming in shortly. So I'm Eric Garns, producer, and sometimes saying a few words when Tina's on, and I think James Patterson's going to be checking in shortly. Hope you're having a good day. Welcome to Friday. Friday? Yeah, it's Friday. Want to double-check and make sure I was right about that. And speaking of that, normally right about now we would check the weather, see what's going on with the weather, and so let's do that. Well, for today, as you can probably see where you are right now, the clouds are hanging on. 65 downtown at the current. Check of the temperature. It's going to be cloudy for the most part throughout the day. A slight chance of some showers coming up this afternoon. High about 68. Then tonight, skies are going to be clearing, making way for an exceptionally wonderful weekend. How about a high near 70 for tomorrow? Then on Sunday, a high around 75. It's going to be a perfect weekend. Maybe a chance to get out and do some grilling. Just get out and do some last minute things you didn't get to finish up when it was officially still summer. So I would take advantage of that if you can this weekend, an opportunity to get out there and enjoy a beautiful fall weekend coming our way. Maybe do some grilling out. Maybe is it too soon for marshmallows?
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Speaker 3: Probably so.
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Speaker 2: But anyway, Eric Garns again for Tina. Tina Cosby coming in shortly at 317-480-1310 is the number to the show.
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Speaker 4: 317-480-1310.
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Speaker 2: Coming up today. Church Community Cavalry Collaboration is sharing how they're working together to help young people of all ages to do something good. And I got a feeling, let's see if this might be James. I'm going to see if it's James here. Let's go there. Let's see. Is it James?
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Speaker 5: Hello?
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Speaker 2: It's not James. Hey, it's Eric Garns in for Tina at the moment. Who am I speaking with?
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Speaker 6: This is Guy calling.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Guy, how are you? You doing all right?
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Speaker 7: I thought I'd.
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Speaker 6: Call in and use this extra time before Tina gets in. We were on the HBCU college fair last night.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, were you there last night for that event?
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Speaker 6: Yes.
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Speaker 2: How did it go?
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Speaker 6: It went well.
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Speaker 2: That was at North Central High School. Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah. They had about 400 students. Oh, that's... Yeah, it was real nice. It went real well.
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Speaker 2: That's a very nice turnout. That is outstanding. So it was a good time last night, educational and.
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Speaker 7: Yes.
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Speaker 6: I was impressed by the turnout, particularly of some of the Divine Nine, you know, sororities and fraternities. There were some Kappas there. There were... some AKs there. Um, and, uh, particularly I'd like to, to shout out to the, um, to the, uh, um, Delta Sigma Theta sorority alumni chapter. They did a tremendous job in terms of, uh, voter registration and, and, uh, they really went into it. They have, uh, uh, well-coordinated, uh, uh, program to try to make sure that people are registered. They found out that some of the, the folks, uh, um, thought they were registered and then they checked and they found out that they really weren't on the list.
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Speaker 2: You know, that is amazing to me. That's amazing how that can happen. They can, you know, they're registered and all of a sudden their names are gone. Tina and I've talked about that so many times and James, you know, how was that happening? How are they not there? You know?
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Speaker 6: Yeah. And, and you, you may remember that, uh, the Trump administration required states to turn in their voter rolls at one time. And the red states cooperated. I don't think the blue states or the purple states cooperated, but Indiana was one that sent in the voter roll, supposedly. And so you just wonder, were they eliminating people willy-nilly? You know, so it might be a conspiracy. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: That's not legal to do, though, is it? I don't think that's legal to, you know.
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Speaker 6: Well, we don't have a legal president.
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Speaker 8: Well, you're right.
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Speaker 2: You can say that. You can say that again. That's true.
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Speaker 6: That is so true. They're not going to worry about laws. You know, they're going to do what they want to do.
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Speaker 2: And that's what's happening.
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Speaker 6: And that's what's happening. So it's the kind of thing where we have to be. on our toes. Back in the day, you know, I grew up in public housing in Lockfield Gardens here.
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Speaker 7: Right.
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Speaker 6: And even as young people, you know, because that was during the World War II, the days of World War II, Pearl Harbor, and all of that. And even as youngsters, we had a phrase we said, on guard, which was taken from the Three Musketeers. So we would always say, on guard. So you got to be on guard, man, you know.
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Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely. Lockfield Gardens, those were the first, weren't they the first, was it projects that were built in the United States? I think I heard in 1930s, I think originally.
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Speaker 6: Exactly, exactly.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were beautiful at the time too, my understanding.
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Speaker 6: And at the Christmas Addicts Museum, which is at Addicts High School here in town, they have a replica of the original Lockville Gardens.
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Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
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Speaker 6: Folks can get an idea if they're interested on actually how it was laid out and how it looked and that kind of thing.
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Speaker 2: That'd be nice to see. That's something I've never seen. I remember as a kid seeing Lockfield before they had torn down many of the buildings, but I've never... I'd like to see how it was. That model would be nice to see.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was so well constructed. They had a hard time tearing it down.
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Speaker 2: I remember reading about that and hearing about that, definitely.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, they had a hard time. It was so well, they were so well built. And, you know, they did keep, I think, at least three of the original buildings.
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Speaker 3: That's true, that's true.
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Speaker 6: Of the so-called... Apartments.
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Speaker 3: Apartments, yes, yes.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, with Waters, Indiana Avenue, and I guess they call it, it used to be called Lock Street, but I think they changed the name.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they've changed a lot over there. A lot over the years has changed.
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Speaker 5: Well, Mr.
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Speaker 2: Russell, thank you. Thank you for the information. Thank you for the HBC update. Glad to hear things went well there last night.
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Speaker 6: And also, I'd like to urge people, they better check, even if they think they're registered, check with the voter registration office.
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Speaker 2: Good idea. Definitely must do that.
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Speaker 6: Double check because, you know, there might be a lot of hanky-panky going on, and we don't want that to happen.
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Speaker 2: That is true, and I'm going to check again. I know I'm already registered, but I'm going to double, triple check again just to make sure, just to make sure. Thank you, sir.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's wise.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. Have a great weekend, and thank you very much.
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Speaker 6: And take care.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. You too. Tina.
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Speaker 3: Hey.
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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hey. Trying to fill some big shoes.
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Speaker 9: Oh, please.
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Speaker 2: Huge shoes.
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Speaker 9: You are handling it, handling it, handling it. And, yeah, thank you so much for stepping in there. I got out just in time to get over here. But what a phenomenal.
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Speaker 2: I know it was. This might be James.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I believe it might be. But anyway, as Eric has already done, welcomed you to Community Connection. Today is Friday, October 2nd. I'm Tina Cosby.
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Speaker 7: 317-480-1310.
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Speaker 9: 317-480-1310 is the number to the show. We're going to do open lines and weekend review. most of the show. But in our second hour, a church community collaboration is sharing how they're working together to help give young people of all ages something fun, something nice, something good to do on a Saturday night. Everybody wants something good, something fun to do on a Saturday night. And so a neighborhood association, the church, they're all getting together to present this program we're going to hear in more about that, because how often do we hear that there's just nothing to do, there's nothing to do in Indianapolis for our young folks? Well, this is one of the options that's now available. So 317-480-1310, that is going to be coming up in our second hour. Eric, what's been going on?
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Speaker 2: Well, the weather. Did the weather already?
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Speaker 3: We've got the weather.
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Speaker 2: It's going to be a beautiful weekend. Lots of sunshine. Really, in a word, sunny. sunny it's gonna be very nice tomorrow sunny uh 69 75 on sunday i mentioned earlier maybe drill out a little bit if you.
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Speaker 9: Want a little gray right now but i think that's gonna.
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Speaker 2: Pass yeah it's 65 as it came on the.
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Speaker 9: Year 65 let's go ahead and bring in uh we talked about him he's here james patterson our contributing analyst james are you there I am.
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Speaker 10: Indeed, Tina. I just caught a little bit of what you were talking about that's coming up. Sounds interesting. The first thing I thought about when I heard that was, remember we had Ebony Chappelle on Wednesday and she was talking about the event at Indiana University Indianapolis on Saturday.
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's what I thought about the first time when I heard your voice. So don't forget to remind folks about that as well.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's Saturday day, and this is coming up Saturday night. So your Saturdays are going to be full. They will definitely be full on Saturday. But Eric, I'm sure, oh, there's Chase.
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Speaker 3: He's back too.
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Speaker 9: The reason that I was just a tad bit late is that I had the honor and the privilege of being with the Indianapolis Urban League and you, the community, for what was an absolutely amazing, amazing visit with Angela Davis.
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Speaker 7: Dr.
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Speaker 9: Angela Davis. I mean, it's just hard to put into words. I still can't believe that I was on stage with her, that I got to talk to her, interview her, got to interview her a couple of times, but actually got to introduce her. But it was part of an overall day, part of a really, really good day, a really good event on reentry, the prison system, how we can all do better, and she She knocked it out of the park. I mean, she was just phenomenal. There was a panel discussion prior to her taking the stage, and they knocked it out of the park. They were amazing. So hats off to Tony Mason and the entire Indianapolis Urban League for an absolutely phenomenal, phenomenal program that they put on this morning. It was just, I don't know. It left me speechless. Again, I can't believe. that I was able to be a part of something so huge and to be able to sit next to such an iconic figure in our history, civil rights history, living history.
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Speaker 2: Living history, that's so true.
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Speaker 9: And she could not have been more gracious, welcoming, friendly, just, she was just.
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Speaker 5: Great.
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Speaker 9: Absolutely great. Thoughtful, engaging. you know, you name it. And she certainly is. What's that? I'm going to say it. Black don't crack. She does not look like she's 82 years old.
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Speaker 3: That's amazing.
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Speaker 9: She said it on stage. I'm not saying anything.
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Speaker 2: So she's 82.
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Speaker 3: It's 82.
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Speaker 9: Wow. I think soon to be 83. I think her birthday is in January.
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Speaker 3: Wow.
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Speaker 9: But, um, but James and Eric, I'm sure I know you both are all, uh, familiar with the Angela Davis story and, um, you know, her incarceration for, uh, was it 16 months back in the seventies? Yeah. Her incarceration during this, the civil rights movement, um, opened her eyes to conditions and how our prison systems work, uh, or for lack of a better phrase, don't work or aren't working. in the best interest of citizens and how we can better rehabilitate, not rehabilitate, how we can better serve those who have been, you know, run afoul of society and are now part of the justice-involved community. And there are challenges. There's a lot of, there's a number of challenges. There's economic challenges, there's physical challenges, there's mental, you know, mental health challenges. And so all of those things were up and out for discussion there at the Indianapolis Urban League this morning. And again, I want to thank President and CEO Tony Mason for inviting me to be a part of that. I want to thank Tony Mason and the entire Urban League for allowing me to sit next to and have a fireside chat, so to speak, with Angela Davis. I mean, I don't I don't know how that happened, but I'm glad it did because, you know, that was just, yeah.
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Speaker 10: Angela Davis is quite a figure. She is in the civil rights movement, or Dr. Brown would say the freedom movement. Of course, she was affiliated with the Communist Party. And that wasn't such a bad thing back then because people wanted freedom no matter how they got it. And she was formerly a professor at the– this is Southern California. She was a professor over there. And she's been through quite a lot, but she's never bitten her tongue. And I read here where she was scheduled to speak. at Butler University in Mirror Indy, in Mirror Indy's report. She was scheduled to speak there, but it was abruptly canceled. She was scheduled in 2021 to speak at Butler, a virtual event organized by its student government association. This was even virtually, but it was canceled three days before it was set to take place. Some students claimed censorship, but university officials said, It was policies for booking outside speakers were not followed. But obviously, because of her stature and because of her controversy and the controversy that has followed Angela Davis throughout her career as not only an organizer but a protester, she has been one of the icons of the civil rights movement. No matter what you think of her views, she has always worked to better conditions. for people, you know, such as what the discussion was today, you know, the formerly incarcerated getting out. And I think that was a great thing to put on the, you know, put to the fore to talk about, a subject to talk about is because what do they do once they get out? How does a society help them to reintegrate into the uh you know into into our our our society into the civilization to be productive citizens to be able to take care of their families do they have a mark on them for life and that's probably uh one of the points that she was making and you know it says.
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Speaker 9: Here in the mirror ending oh go ahead go ahead and mirror indy.
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Speaker 10: Well in the mirror any story says uh beyond the record is um The program, I guess they were trying to.
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Speaker 9: That was the theme of today's program.
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Speaker 10: It says it will examine how incarceration affects mental health, employment, and long-term stability. And that's what I was talking about, Tina. Maybe that's what you were going to comment on. Things like driver's licenses, being able to get housing, being able to get a decent livable wage job. So that's an excellent topic. So I wasn't there. It was a great event. I know, you know, it would have been nice to be there, but you were. And so you've got the firsthand knowledge.
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Speaker 11: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: And, you know, her message and messaging these days is far more, is far wider than that. I mean, she talks about communities needing to come together and to embrace, you know, all of our differences. She talked about how we need to stop giving so much power to the powers that be because we have our own power to shape our own lives and to be more involved. There was a heavy emphasis during the entire program on voting and voter registration. And there were people there who were helping folks register to vote if they weren't already. But her message was, you know, I surprisingly I don't want to say surprisingly mainstream, James. It was really. Yeah, it was just surprisingly mainstream. It's more or less kind of what we hear, you know, each and every day. Like you say, her political, you know, her views are her own. And she's I think she said in one interview, you know, she's no longer. a member of what it's CPUSA. Yeah, a company that's part of CPUSA.
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Speaker 10: And I want to be clear. I'm not saying that her views are the same. She has evolved over the years. I'm not saying that her views are the same as they were then. What I'm saying is exactly what we're saying, is we have the power to change our own lives. We have the power through the vote You know, people don't understand. We had a caller on Wednesday. She was like, you know, I got children. And I think, you know, she came up as Eric put her name is just the letter J. It's probably something else. I think I know what it is. But anyway, she was like, I got these young adult children, and they're not voting. It's because they're ignorant of the fact that they can change their own lives collectively. They can empower themselves collectively because that's how our system works. And that is not what you would have in most countries. In a lot of countries, you can't participate in the government that governs you. Angela Davis is great. Do not think that I'm criticizing her.
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Speaker 4: No.
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Speaker 10: Let me be clear. I think she and even with those views, she stood up when nobody else would or few would. And she has to be, I think, you know, lifted up.
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Speaker 9: She was the poster child for freeing political prisoners back in during the civil rights movement because she. along with a number of others, were held as political prisoners. I mean, she was acquitted by an all-white jury of all charges pertaining to that. It was murder, weapons, and it was just a whole bunch of stuff. And she was exonerated, fully acquitted by a jury, again, an all-white jury, and was able to go forth and continue the work that she still does to this day. She is Professor Emerita. at University of California, Santa Cruz, where, and then she, you know, is heavily involved in her lecture tour, where she's encouraging people to, you know, use your power, use your voice.
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Speaker 2: She is on Time's list of the 100 most influential people in the world. That was as of 2020, and awarded an honorary doctorate in letters from the University of Cambridge.
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Speaker 4: She.
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Speaker 9: I believe she received her, she's gotten honorary doctorates and then, of course, received her doctorate. Yeah, studies overseas or something. But the thing was, it was so uplifting. It was so refreshing. It was so good to see somebody of a national stature who has been through everything that she has and back. You know, there was the old saying, and been through hell and back, but yet and still keeps that, you know, keeps hope alive, as Jesse would say. keep hope alive. So it was a very hopeful, very positive message that messages that she portrayed and shared with the with the audiences today. So we may have some of her sound. I don't know if Chase is working on it. Yeah, that's what he was saying when he came in. And you can hear for yourself, you know, some of the things she was saying. But overall, the tone was was positive. People were when I got there. to go in and to prepare for my part of the program. I'm not kidding. The lines were all the way. They were two blocks long.
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Speaker 11: Oh, wow.
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Speaker 6: Yes.
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Speaker 9: And I spoke with someone who does our show, Dr. Hayes, Dr. Denise Hayes, psychologist Dr. Denise Hayes. She had been there since 730 in the morning. And, you know, yes.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: People want to hear. People wanted to know. And I just couldn't believe my eyes when I got there. I'm like, my goodness. Because when registration was opened, it filled up so quickly they had to cut it off.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 9: Because, you know, the center, you know, the theater below and the balcony, you could only hold so many people. But, you know, when you arrive to a place. And so that was also encouraging because Indianapolis can show up. Indianapolis can show out. Indianapolis does care about each other, about our community, about voting, about the city does care.
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Speaker 8: That's good.
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Speaker 9: That was fantastic. The mayor was there, Mayor Joe Hoxton. He was on the front row and did not move. He stayed from start to finish. And he too was one that when she finished stood and gave her a standing ovation. She got a couple of them. The mayor of the city of Indianapolis was there, and it wasn't for show. He didn't get up and make a speech or anything. In fact, he was just pointed to as one of the many special guests that were there. There was a young woman that we had on the show once a few years ago, Michelle Jones, who had been incarcerated for a number of years, but While she was there, wrote a book, got her PhD. No, she was about to get her PhD. And I remember we talked to her down at the MS building. She was there. And, you know, an example of, you know, what can happen when people take their, you know, take the initiative and say, hey, I want better, even though these walls, I'm inside these walls. And I mean, she's got her PhD now. The other people, And these were, I think these were special guests of Dr.
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Speaker 3: Davis.
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Speaker 9: The family of Herman Whitfield, remember him? The man who was having a mental health crisis who was shot and killed by police. They're still working through the court system, so they couldn't really say a whole lot. But his mother and father were both there as well in support of Angela Davis. And her thing, she says, she's labeled an abolitionist, you know, regarding police policing and reform. And she said, what I really am talking about and what we talk about is find a better way. And what she said there at the Walker wasn't anything that hasn't been said on this show over the last, I don't know how, police have no, police should not be answering mental health runs. She said that. She said there should be no, you know, police are not trained in mental health, you know, crises and mental health runs, and therefore should not be answering those. You know, that was one of the things that she talked about as well. And she was happy to point out the support that she was getting from the family of Herman Whitfield III, which also, like I said, they're working their way through the court system as well. So, All in all, very enlightening, very eye-opening, and pretty much most of what we talk about here every day or have been talking about for years.
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Speaker 10: That's what I said. I mean, that's what we're saying, that we have the power ourselves to do it, and we've said that over and over. And I want to say this one thing about Angela Davis, okay, because I lived when she lived. When she was getting that, look, she was one of the most, By the government of the United States, be it Democrat or Republican, she was one of the most, I think, feared and really messed with or somebody who was agitated with by the government. She was one of the most people who were feared by the government, along with Dr. Martin Luther King and others.
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Speaker 5: In the country.
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Speaker 10: Angela Davis. was one of the people that probably on the FBI's, what I read somewhere that she was on once on the FBI's.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, FBI's most wanted list, the first, probably the first woman on the FBI's most wanted list. Yeah.
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Speaker 10: I mean, she was just hated by the government that was in place. So that's the kind of background that she has. She has always stood up for the people. But you're right. We have those tools. We've been saying it for I don't know how long that the people have the Your power, even people who are in the judicial system, if they're not incarcerated in prison or in jail, or if they're in jail and they haven't been sentenced, as I understand it, they can vote. They can still vote if they're in the criminal justice system. And I don't believe they're, correct me if I'm wrong, their voting rights are taken away. If they have completed sentence and they're back out, they can still vote. So they have the power, talking about the criminal justice system, to help empower themselves.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, indeed. 317-480-1310, 317-480-1310. We're a little late getting to a break, so let's go to the break. And then when we come back, we'll take some phone calls. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 1: Let's get back to the conversation. It's Community Connection with Tina Cosby from the Praise Indy Indigo Studios on Praise AM 1310, 95.1 FM.
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Speaker 9: And we are back with Community Connection. And again, I was just a bit tardy today because participating in a really uplifting event put on by the Indianapolis Urban League. And I want to say congratulations again to Tony Mason and the Urban League for tackling you know, so many subject areas just year round. And they do it brilliantly. They do it brilliantly. And so, again, thank you for including me in this morning's program. It was amazing.
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Speaker 12: 317-480-1310, 317-480-1310.
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Speaker 9: Eric Garns and James Patterson here today. Lines are open for whatever may be on your mind. Let's go to the phone lines. Estella, is that correct?
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Speaker 5: Hi, how are you?
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Speaker 9: I'm well. How are you?
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Speaker 5: Great. Thanks for another well-informed show that you all did so well with.
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Speaker 9: Thank you.
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Speaker 5: And I remember Angela Davis back in the day.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: Well, it was she she riled up Richard Nixon and J. Edgar Hoover. So, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Take take that one for.
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Speaker 5: I remember. Yeah.
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Speaker 10: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: She had those two riled up. But, you know, anybody, you know, the black people standing up for themselves during the day.
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Speaker 10: Yes, yes.
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Speaker 9: Riled up everybody.
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Speaker 5: I remember her big afro.
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Speaker 11: Uh-huh.
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Speaker 9: Well, it's a more subdued... It's not the big killer fro, but it's... Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Yes, yes.
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Speaker 9: Gone white.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, but you're right. I just saw a picture of her in today's... You know, today's... In today's date. And she.
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Speaker 10: She looks stunning still. 82 years old.
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Speaker 9: Doesn't look 82. I don't know what 82 looks like.
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Speaker 10: I don't know where they got that from.
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Speaker 9: I don't know what 82 looks like, but it ain't what she is. So what's going on? What's going on still?
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Speaker 5: Okay. I, first of all, checked my voter registration status for that of mine and my husband's.
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Speaker 13: And we are active.
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Speaker 5: I listened to what you said the other day, and I followed through. And then while I was on the website, I decided to print out what's on the ballot. And do you have any information... about supporting or not supporting the proposed ratifications to the state constitution. And those proposals, are you familiar with them?
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Speaker 9: You know, somebody asked me that while I was down there today at the Urban League event. And is it question one? Question one and question two.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, question one. I have it in front of me if you have time for me to read it.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, go ahead and read it.
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Speaker 5: Okay, question one. Public question one. Currently, under the Constitution of the state of Indiana, a person charged with murder or treason is not entitled to be released on bail if the proof is evident or the presumption strong. Shall the Constitution of the state of Indiana be amended to provide that a person charged with an offense other than murder or treason is not entitled to bail if the proof is evident or the presumption strong, and two, the state proved by clear and convincing evidence that no release conditions will be reasonably, will reasonably protect the safety of any other person or the community. And in parentheses it says this question concerns Article 1, Section 17 of the Constitution of the State of Indiana.
00:32:58
Speaker 10: Yeah, well, that's a bunch of hooey. First of all, I don't think it's constitutional. You know, based upon the Bill of Rights, you know, we are to be granted bail only with the exception of murder or, you know, for some national security reason. Right. People, based upon the Constitution, have the right to a bond, a bail, to be released before trial. Unless, you know, there are clear reasons why there might be a danger to the community in those cases. And still then, the lawyers can continue, the defense lawyers can continue to ask why and seek bail because the Constitution guarantees it. And this statement that you made, I was trying to write it down as you were talking, Estella. It said that if proof is evident and the presumption.
00:33:56
Speaker 7: Yes.
00:33:57
Speaker 10: Strong.
00:33:59
Speaker 6: Yes.
00:33:59
Speaker 10: Well, you know, that's presumptuous.
00:34:02
Speaker 6: It is.
00:34:03
Speaker 5: Exactly. That's a red flag for me.
00:34:06
Speaker 7: Yeah.
00:34:06
Speaker 9: And the other red flag for me was clear and convincing. There has never been a piece of legislation. that clear and convincing because even that is subjective and can be argued in court. So it's flawed on its face as far as I'm concerned.
00:34:22
Speaker 10: I agree.
00:34:23
Speaker 5: I agree.
00:34:24
Speaker 10: And people should vote no.
00:34:26
Speaker 9: On question one, in my view.
00:34:29
Speaker 10: Undoubtedly, no. Question one, no.
00:34:32
Speaker 5: That's what I was calling. I was wondering if you were allowed to tell me that answer or not. Okay, question two. Shall the Constitution of the state of Indiana be amended to permit the judge of a city or town court to reside in, number one, the county in which the court is located, or two, the bordering county closest to the city or town in which the court is located?
00:35:06
Speaker 9: More stuff.
00:35:07
Speaker 5: The defense concerns Article 6, Section 6 of the Constitution of the state of Indiana.
00:35:14
Speaker 9: More bending of the rules. Yeah, why do they need that? Yeah, why do they need that?
00:35:19
Speaker 5: Why would they not reside in the first place?
00:35:21
Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly. You need to be where you are, you know. But just inching up to it, you know, really close.
00:35:28
Speaker 3: Come on.
00:35:29
Speaker 9: Oh, my goodness. I can't believe this made it to the ballot.
00:35:33
Speaker 5: Now, there are a lot of judges that are listed here, the retention of these in several different districts. So have you looked at any of those?
00:35:46
Speaker 9: No, but there's a place on vote.indy.gov, I do believe, that has a sample ballot page. So I'm going to have to look it over. But, no, I haven't looked at any of the— no, I haven't.
00:35:59
Speaker 5: And then the people need to know what these positions are that these people have. Yes. Because you could have different people with different— issues and concerns that are different than yours that are contrary to what the law says, and they could be stacked on the courts and would not, it would be detrimental to someone who is really innocent.
00:36:25
Speaker 10: Yeah, you're right.
00:36:25
Speaker 9: I would agree.
00:36:26
Speaker 10: People need to become much more familiar with those judges.
00:36:29
Speaker 9: Yeah, we're going to put something together, a discussion. It might even be a two-day discussion on just that. Got a really good email the other day from Ophelia Wellington, probably director emerita of Freetown Village, certainly the founder and artistic director and all that. And she was saying pretty much the same thing, you know, suggesting. And she said, the teacher in me thinks that perhaps it would be a good idea to have somebody come on and explain what all the roles are, what they do. and how that impacts and affects others. And I told her that was a great email. I was glad she sent it. And I was already working on something similar to that, but I think I might expand it a little. But yeah, we'll get to it. Plus, our weekly visits with, my goodness, Julia Vaughn. Julia Vaughn. I was thinking Vaughn.
00:37:26
Speaker 5: And also, what are their voting records currently? You know, going back for however long they have been on the bench. Well, thank you very much. You were very helpful.
00:37:39
Speaker 10: Yeah, but we know, Stella, thank you, because questions one and two, you know, no.
00:37:48
Speaker 9: They're silly. There's a bunch of.
00:37:51
Speaker 11: Anyway.
00:37:55
Speaker 9: Thank you. All right.
00:37:56
Speaker 13: Well, thank you.
00:37:57
Speaker 5: Continue to do a fantastic job.
00:37:59
Speaker 9: We appreciate it. We appreciate it. Thank you.
00:38:07
Speaker 8: 317-480-1310.
00:38:07
Speaker 9: 317-480-1310. Old dude, haven't talked to you for a while. How you doing?
00:38:11
Speaker 7: Oh, I'm doing just fancy.
00:38:13
Speaker 10: I woke up this morning in a state of shock.
00:38:18
Speaker 9: State of shock? What happened? What happened?
00:38:20
Speaker 10: Hey, you guys got a great program. Y'all very informative. Now, here's a couple of things that's been bothering my mind. I'll throw one out there real quick. Okay, we've got all of these young guys that are going to these colleges to be athletes because we know that they're not academically up there. So they go in here.
00:38:40
Speaker 9: You can't say that at all.
00:38:43
Speaker 7: Well, you know, as an old guy, I can throw that out there. But, you know, But, you know, we got all these.
00:38:52
Speaker 10: Athletes that are going to college and trying to make something of themselves. They got these used-to-be girlfriends or relationships or whatever. And as soon as these young men get ready to go to the NBA or the NFL, all of a sudden, these girls from way back when– besides the pop-up with the R-word, you know, that R-word, and it destroys these young athletes' marketability, knocks them down from the first round to the third fifth, or whatever. Is there somewhere along the lines where these college players, now that they're allowed to make money, is there some way these colleges can put together a little group or committee to educate these young men on the proposed alleged thing that they said these guys are doing. Because I was in shock when I woke up and found out that one of my favorite players that used to be with Warren Central has been nailed for a case over a year ago. And I don't want to throw his name out there, but it's all over the place. And I was shocked because they said that he turned himself in. He reported this thing to the police himself.
00:40:16
Speaker 7: And now the girl comes back And she reports it to the school many, many days a week afterwards, you know. And now he's being spread all over the place, which is going to kill his marketability when the draft comes up. Because, I mean, he was pretty high on the scouting list as a defensive player, which meant his draft marketability was going to be way up there. And now I wake up this morning and I'm just shattered because I don't understand this. We've got these guys being nailed for that, and then they come back two or three years later after they've been smeared all over the paper, they come back and they find out they didn't do it. The girls recant their stories and all that.
00:41:01
Speaker 13: This is ridiculous.
00:41:03
Speaker 10: I listen to you guys because y'all are fantastic. I listen to you.
00:41:07
Speaker 9: There should be. And, you know, the good programs do school their athletes in terms of, dangerous you know watch out for this watch out for that um good schools protect them they put you know sort of a protective a hedge around them if you will um and so the good ones though now i'm not saying that i i don't know i this is the first i've heard of what you know what old dude was just saying i don't know any of the details about any of it or what have you but um More and more, as more and more as these cases and these situations come to light, I think that there are schools and institutions that are taking steps to protect their athletes with, you know, in terms of educating them, giving them information, you know, letting them know what their expectations are and so on and so forth. But as far as draft stock rising or falling or what have you, I mean.
00:42:09
Speaker 9: It happens. I mean, just today, one of the greats in, I don't know if he's a Hall of Famer, Tony Romo used to be with the Dallas Cowboys.
00:42:20
Speaker 6: Your quarterback.
00:42:21
Speaker 9: Your quarterback, yeah. He's passed playing days, but he had a career in broadcasting and was probably pretty good. But this, you know, he was arrested for DUI and they cut ties with him.
00:42:35
Speaker 10: Um, you know, so I was going to say the same thing.
00:42:39
Speaker 9: Certain things.
00:42:40
Speaker 10: Yeah.
00:42:41
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:42:41
Speaker 9: Go ahead.
00:42:42
Speaker 10: No, you go ahead.
00:42:43
Speaker 9: No, I'm just saying certain, you know, the, sometimes there's, there's just things that, that happen. Sometimes there are things that could be prevented. Uh, and so, uh, You know, but Romo probably should have had better judgment than perhaps a high school. You would think he would have had better having been through all of that and everything would have had, you know, better judgment. But, you know, you try to do your best. But, you know, sometimes things happen and slip through the cracks.
00:43:08
Speaker 1: I guess.
00:43:09
Speaker 9: I don't know. I want to know more about this situation old dude was talking about, though.
00:43:14
Speaker 10: Well, yeah, look at that. Look, for example, not just Romo, but the guy that the broadcaster here in Indianapolis.
00:43:20
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, that was.
00:43:21
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:43:23
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, he knew better too, but he was drunk, and you do stupid things like that when you're inebriated. But I was going to say the same thing you did about the schools and programs and just– not just the schools, but in people's– the athletes' inner circles, their parents, their friends, their spiritual leaders, their pastors. whatever, need to be talking to them and telling them this is what can happen. So it comes down to behavior. It comes down to education. It comes down to knowledge. You've got to know what your value will be, perhaps, if you're really, really good in your athletic field. two or three years down the road, they're even, they're starting to, they're, they're paying. They're not starting. They're paying college athletes now. So you can start making money immediately. So you have got to know what your boundaries are. And these are in all relations and that's getting control of your, you know, of your body, getting control of your, your emotions, getting control of your feelings. That's, that's what it boils down to. And people, schools, especially, I think schools have a, they, they, like you said, all of them don't do it, but I think they have, a responsibility to cocoon these people, to at least scold them, these athletes, and what can happen.
00:44:47
Speaker 9: You know, there's a woman who is the mother of professional athlete Jaden Daniels from the Washington Commanders. And she has taken a lot of heat about her smothering of her son and how overly, you know, overtly protective she is of him. And so we we have to they have to understand that these women throw them. So, you know, it's not just it's not just the men, you know, these women is groupies in general. OK, groupies in general. You got to watch out for the groupies because they they see they smell blood.
00:45:24
Speaker 7: In the water.
00:45:25
Speaker 9: Yeah, they see they know what.
00:45:27
Speaker 10: They're looking for.
00:45:27
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:45:28
Speaker 9: They know your value better than you do sometimes. And so you have to be really careful of the groupies. So there's a lot. There's a lot to it. There's a lot that goes to and goes with being a professional athlete, a college athlete, a high school athlete. There's a whole lot to it. I wish there weren't, but, you know, because it used to be play, you know, and enjoy yourself. But not so much. Not so much anymore. So a lot of landscape to navigate there. A lot of land.
00:45:57
Speaker 7: Yeah.
00:46:00
Speaker 9: 317-480-1310. Adria? Is that Adria or Adria? Hello?
00:46:06
Speaker 2: Just a second here, Tia.
00:46:07
Speaker 7: I'm sorry.
00:46:07
Speaker 9: Okay, I'm sorry.
00:46:08
Speaker 3: Okay, there we go.
00:46:09
Speaker 6: Adria.
00:46:10
Speaker 2: It's Adria.
00:46:10
Speaker 9: Adria, okay. Are you there?
00:46:13
Speaker 7: Yes.
00:46:13
Speaker 13: Can you hear me?
00:46:14
Speaker 9: Yes, I can hear you.
00:46:15
Speaker 7: How are you?
00:46:15
Speaker 13: I just wanted to make, how are you? How's James and Eric?
00:46:19
Speaker 10: I'm good, Adria. I just wanted to.
00:46:21
Speaker 13: Make a comment about Angela Davis. I worked at IU Northwest for 27 years in the library. It afforded me meeting people like Angela Davis. What I thought was fantastic about meeting her, I had a chance to interview her. And I'm a person of very many words. I'm not a journalist. I wasn't any of that. But I actually asked her, What got her involved in the movement? And she said to me like this, I didn't beat the movement.
00:47:01
Speaker 11: Oh, wow.
00:47:04
Speaker 9: We were losing you.
00:47:06
Speaker 14: Yeah.
00:47:07
Speaker 10: Are you in a tunnel or something?
00:47:10
Speaker 13: No, it's my phone. It was another call coming in, and I had to get rid of it. But, yeah, it was phenomenal to me that she made the statement. I didn't pick the movement. The movement picked me. And because of her incarceration as a woman, as James said, she was one of the first women on the FBI most wanted list. And because of her incarceration is why she started doing prison ministry. That's always been a phenomenal thing. for her because of her own personal experience.
00:47:45
Speaker 9: It's all rooted in that, yeah.
00:47:47
Speaker 13: Being a Black Panther. She was a Black Panther.
00:47:51
Speaker 9: For a minute, yeah.
00:47:52
Speaker 13: A lot of people don't know that because they still don't understand that the Black Panther movement was not about violence. It was about Operation Feeding the Children.
00:48:05
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:48:05
Speaker 13: Teaching them their history. All of these things.
00:48:10
Speaker 13: You know, most of the people, like I'm close to Gary Chicago, Bobby Rush, he was part of the Panther movement.
00:48:19
Speaker 10: He became a congressperson from Illinois. Exactly, exactly.
00:48:23
Speaker 13: So I just wanted to make the comment, I was thankful and grateful that I was afforded to meet people like Angela Davis. I also met and talked to Dick Gregory before he died.
00:48:35
Speaker 10: So I was very fortunate to meet people.
00:48:38
Speaker 13: Yes, that were very much into the movement of our people. And somewhere we, and I say we, we collectively dropped the ball on pushing, pushing our younger people to understand these things. They were not given. Somebody sacrificed for you to get there.
00:48:57
Speaker 9: That's right.
00:48:59
Speaker 10: Absolutely.
00:49:00
Speaker 13: And what the other guy was speaking about, and I'm going to let you guys go, the one talking about the athletes, Oprah Winfrey's boyfriend Stedman Graham he had a program for athletes because he was an athlete so if people want to know contact him because he had a movement of getting with young athletes telling them the proper conduct what to do what not to deal with and he wrote several books so you may want if he still does that come around and talk to the young people because he was an athlete himself. So he knows about that exposure.
00:49:39
Speaker 10: So you guys, thank you very much for.
00:49:42
Speaker 13: Taking my call. Have a wonderful, wonderful weekend.
00:49:45
Speaker 7: All right.
00:49:46
Speaker 9: You too. Thank you very much.
00:49:47
Speaker 7: Yeah.
00:49:47
Speaker 9: Good points. Very good call. Yeah. Indeed.
00:49:50
Speaker 7: 317-480-1310.
00:49:50
Speaker 5: 317-480-1310.
00:49:51
Speaker 9: I think before we go back to the phone lines, because we got a couple, we got, yeah, we got a couple more. Let's go ahead and get this break in, and then when we come right back, we'll go back to the phone line. So if you're on the phone, on hold, stay right there. We're coming to you.
00:50:17
Speaker 1: WTLC AM, W236 CR, Indianapolis. Broadcasting from the Praise Indy Indigo Studios. Discussing the issues that matter to you. It's Community Connection with Tina Cosby on Praise AM 1310, 95.1 FM.
00:50:34
Speaker 9: And we are back heading into our second hour. We're going to go back to the phone lines. James Patterson and Eric Garns here with us.
00:50:41
Speaker 12: 317-480-1310.
00:50:41
Speaker 9: Jeff, go ahead. How are you?
00:50:47
Speaker 7: Hey, happy Friday, everybody.
00:50:48
Speaker 9: Happy Friday.
00:50:50
Speaker 10: Happy Friday. You know, about.
00:50:51
Speaker 2: Happy Friday.
00:50:52
Speaker 8: I think it was in 2000, yes, it was in 2019 or 2020, during the whole Black Lives Matter movement, I had the honor and the privilege to hear Dr. Angela Davis speak.
00:51:08
Speaker 7: Hello?
00:51:08
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
00:51:09
Speaker 13: Mm-hmm.
00:51:10
Speaker 8: Yeah, and it was just, I tell you, being a prince of an icon, a historical.
00:51:17
Speaker 7: Figure, historical.
00:51:20
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:51:21
Speaker 8: I mean, it was just, and she's so down to earth and so personable, you know, and. You know, and a wealth of knowledge and a life experience. So, yeah, it was just an honor just to be in her presence. So, we just, you know, I'm looking at history right now. When I saw her, I was looking at actual history.
00:51:40
Speaker 7: Yeah.
00:51:41
Speaker 8: And so, yeah, I mean, we need some more Angela Davis. We need some more Stokely Carmichaels. We need some more Dr. Kings and Malcolm Xs because these are the people that paved.
00:51:51
Speaker 7: The way for us.
00:51:52
Speaker 3: And, you know.
00:51:53
Speaker 8: So many of us are just, you know, don't have an idea how important these individuals were. You know, you had to be pretty important for J. Edgar Hoover to come after you.
00:52:05
Speaker 10: So, yeah.
00:52:07
Speaker 9: Yeah, to capture his attention because he, yeah.
00:52:11
Speaker 6: Yeah, right.
00:52:12
Speaker 8: I mean, I always find it kind of ironic, James, why the Black Panther were crushed and the Ku Klux Klan was allowed to exist.
00:52:19
Speaker 10: You know, just who would have thought?
00:52:21
Speaker 9: Well, you know, I think that answers itself.
00:52:24
Speaker 10: Yeah, and I'm glad you brought that up, Jeff, because Andrea was right on point to call it right, who called right before you. I don't know how long you've been holding, but who was on right before you. She talked about how the Panthers, see, because I lived in Northern Illinois, and I know what they did. They took up arms, but it was for defense. It was for defense, Jeff. What they were doing was they had a breakfast program for the children.
00:52:48
Speaker 12: That was the main thing.
00:52:51
Speaker 10: And they taught them about history because the schools wouldn't teach black history.
00:52:55
Speaker 9: That's what the Black Panthers taught them.
00:52:56
Speaker 2: That's awesome, man.
00:52:58
Speaker 8: It does, doesn't it? There was this writer years ago. He wanted to join the Black Panthers.
00:53:04
Speaker 10: He said, I want to join.
00:53:07
Speaker 8: And he said, okay, fine. Well, you can join. And they gave him a bunch of books. And he says, you know, Where's my weapons at? Oh, we just gave them to you.
00:53:24
Speaker 10: That's good.
00:53:24
Speaker 7: Yeah, we just gave you, yeah, we just, yeah.
00:53:27
Speaker 8: We gave you Franz Fanon and John Henry Clark, Van Serteman and all that, you know, so, and, you know, as far as that last caller before the last one came out, you know, I tried to paint everybody with a broad brush, but I know some young black men who are athletes and, And they're going to school to become engineers, scientists, you know, and educators. So all of them ain't there just for the, you know, just for the rides. You know, some of them are really trying to make some goals, do some great things with their lives and everything. But just to say they're there for the girls and whatnot. Hell, you just had a bunch of Cornell University guys sexually assaulted woman.
00:54:10
Speaker 10: Yeah.
00:54:11
Speaker 9: But I think what he was saying was that he wasn't saying he was there for the party. I think he was saying what protections can be offered to these young people so that they don't fall into these traps that a lot of these groupies are out there setting for them. You know, altering reality, so to speak, or lying on them. I don't know.
00:54:32
Speaker 13: But.
00:54:33
Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah. That and again, like I said, that some schools have taken the initiative and are going forward and creating programs and and, you know, letting these kids know that, you know, what's out there and that their targets more so than.
00:54:50
Speaker 8: Oh, absolutely. And they got to be educated about that. But with the impression I got, you know, like some of these guys ain't very bright at one for their athletic skills.
00:54:58
Speaker 9: Well, I didn't agree with that.
00:55:02
Speaker 10: I don't think he was saying that myself.
00:55:04
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, because I know two young men right now who are in college and two well-raised, brilliant young men. And, you know, I mean, because, hey, sports won't take you so far, but your education will take you a lot further. So I'm just saying that, you know, there's some young men and women out there who are– doing some great things realized. And sports is just a vehicle. It's just a vehicle. You know, you can't play in the NFL and NBA all your life. And I think a lot of them know that.
00:55:39
Speaker 7: But yeah. Yeah.
00:55:40
Speaker 9: You know, one of the best examples that I can see of that, the fevers, Kelsey Mitchell, she talks about essentially when the air goes out, basketball is not going to be around forever. She's working on her PhD. She may be the only person in that league to actively be a player and a student, a doctoral student at the same time, but she has goals and aspirations beyond the courts. She loves the game, but it's like, hey, there's more to it. And there was another, I think he was, he's gone on now, but he was famous. I saw a 60 Minutes piece on him. John Thompson, not the younger, but the elder, that was head coach at Georgetown and he had in his office a basketball but it had no air in it and he said that's the first thing he shows his recruits when they come in or remind current players when they're in that at some point in time one day the air is going to go out of this basketball what are your plans what are you going to do so always be thinking ahead and so I think a lot more are taking that approach to the young people to help them understand that your entire life has been geared toward getting to X, Y, and Z, but you're going to have a life beyond that. And that's why I always admire the coaches that had really, really high graduation rates for their students because all of them were never going to, you're never going to have a team of 12 or football team 22 students that are going to the NFL or the NBA. You're just not. And to make sure that everybody got something out of the experience that they could take with them and that nobody could take away from them, I think was just so very admirable. But it's a little bit harder to do in today's environment with the transfer portals and all kinds of other things. But it was admirable at the time.
00:57:45
Speaker 8: Well, you know, maybe I told the story a little bit wrong, but the individual thought by joining the Panthers, they were going to give him a gun and whatnot. And that's what he was expecting. And the Panthers said, hey, here's some, these are your weapons right here, right here. You know, and, you know, and James, you know, being a communist is not the worst thing in the world. I mean, you know what I mean? So, I mean, yeah, communism has its issues, a noble concept, but, you know, is it perfect?
00:58:14
Speaker 5: No.
00:58:17
Speaker 10: No, I didn't say there was anything– I didn't say anything. We were talking about Angela Davidson, what she was. She has evolved like 10 times over before then. But we have the right, as I was saying, to change and guide our own destiny.
00:58:36
Speaker 7: Through the vote.
00:58:38
Speaker 10: Well, if we look at– And those are communist countries, which our president rolled the red carpet out for. His best friends are communists and dictators and authoritarian leaders. I don't want that system here. There are some good aspects to communism and socialism. We're part of socialism. We've got Social Security. We've got Medicaid. We've got Medicare. We have parts. But we're not totally in that. system. And I'm not against that. But I'm saying Angela Davis is not that now. That's what I.
00:59:15
Speaker 9: Well, you know, look at the greats who had evolved.
00:59:19
Speaker 7: Dr.
00:59:20
Speaker 9: King evolved. Malcolm X evolved. You know, you say Angela Davis evolved. You know, but as your world.
00:59:29
Speaker 9: The further you go into these movements and things of this nature, the more you see it's bigger than certain viewpoints maybe previously held.
00:59:39
Speaker 10: I don't know.
00:59:40
Speaker 9: But they all started taking on a more global view, more world view. Yeah. Speaking of Angela Day, did Chase leave us anything?
00:59:49
Speaker 2: Yes, I've got a clip here that we could play if you'd like.
00:59:53
Speaker 9: Yeah, let's listen to some of what we talked about this morning.
00:59:56
Speaker 2: Here it is.
00:59:57
Speaker 3: What is wrong with you?
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Speaker 4: But of course, now he totally understands that.
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Speaker 15: What we're talking about is creating new institutions.
01:00:15
Speaker 4: That will make the prison obsolete.
01:00:19
Speaker 15: Now why is it that so many people are in prison in the first place?
01:00:23
Speaker 16: So it's... So, you asked me a question, and I'll say that back in those days, I said, and we were all saying, that we're doing work.
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Speaker 3: That we hope resonates after we're gone.
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Speaker 15: And we never expected that abolition would even be taken up in regular public discourse during our lifetime. We thought we were doing work that would allow others decades from now to carry on.
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Speaker 4: And even though I might disagree with what counts as abolition for a lot of people, a lot of people are aware of it and take it seriously now.
01:01:19
Speaker 9: Are there several definitions of abolition?
01:01:23
Speaker 3: Well.
01:01:26
Speaker 2: Well, to pick up another clip on that, that's about a minute 28 there, and it just stops there. I'll have to see if I can find where she answered that for you.
01:01:35
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's fine.
01:01:36
Speaker 10: We've heard her views there.
01:01:38
Speaker 9: Yeah, and again, when she talks about abolition, she makes a good point. It's not about tearing down. It's about building up and kind of replacing because the prisons are failing, and they're not doing what they were put in place or what the– I guess the verbiage around them says that they do. They don't reform. There's no reform in terms of how being in prison is. He used to call them reformatories and things of that nature. Her point is replace these current institutions with new ones that do what they're supposed to do. That is what she was saying she meant by abolition in terms of the prisons.
01:02:21
Speaker 8: Absolutely.
01:02:22
Speaker 10: Just a new system. And the prisons do not do what in Indiana, particularly because we live here, what the state constitution says they do, and that is to rehab, to reform. That should be the main goal. Some of them, quite honestly, because I've been in the prison, some folks in there don't want to be reformed. But for those who do, they could do a much better job.
01:02:51
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
01:02:52
Speaker 9: But it's so inherently institutionalized now with funding, money, privatization. There's so many. She's got a good point. Bring it, you know, just replace it. Replace it with something that more fits what the model is supposed to be. What they're supposed to do.
01:03:12
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:03:13
Speaker 9: So, yeah, that was one of them. The other thing, you know, kind of along the lines of what we were talking about, This is the final weekend to register to vote in the state of Indiana. This is the last weekend to do that. The deadline is Monday, October 5th. It's the last day for voter registration. The next day, Tuesday, October 6th, is the first day for early voting. Here in Indianapolis and Marion County, The location, biggest county in the state, most populated county in the state. We got one location. Anyway, but others are added on in another week or two. But the first location, let's put it that way, not the only, but the very first location where you can go and vote early is the city county building, downtown 200 East Washington Street, the clerk's office right off Delaware Street. First thing Tuesday morning. as soon as the clerk's office opens, you can go vote early. We can't tell people when to vote. We can't tell people who to vote for or what to vote for. We shouldn't, and we won't, you know, because that's supposed to be your free will. But I will say we strongly encourage, and I'm taking this from a lot of folks that know, national, local, regional, you name it, figures who know it is so much better for all of us. If possible, you can find a way to vote early. If at all possible, find a way to get your vote in there early. It's just good business. It's good business, as they say. A lot of folks, I want to do it on election day. I get that. And I hope you show up. I plan, you know, but Vote early if you can. And that.
01:05:23
Speaker 12: Yeah.
01:05:25
Speaker 10: Yeah.
01:05:27
Speaker 9: Indiana voters dot com. Indiana voters dot com is where you can go to check on your voter registration to make sure you're still there and to make sure you are still active, still active and still there.
01:05:40
Speaker 10: So, yeah. Yeah, we don't tell people what to vote for. However, Estella did bring up this amendment question, question one and question two on the ballot. I got to get one too, Tina, so I can read directly.
01:05:56
Speaker 9: Yeah, I got to look at it, yeah.
01:05:58
Speaker 10: But the Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution– now this question one that she was talking about wants to take away bail– take away the right for people to bond out, you know, if it's not murder, for certain crimes. The Eighth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, however, says excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted. And by the way, we didn't talk about that woman in Tennessee who they tried to execute like two times the other night, and she survived. The first woman who would have been put to death in Tennessee, a horrific crime she was convicted of committing when she was younger, when she was a girl. But here it is that they tried to kill her twice, and she went through excruciating pain, and she was not able– she didn't die. She's still alive. The Tennessee governor is not going to allow those executions anymore. for the rest of the year. We don't know what's going to happen next year, but that's another thing. But I wanted to read the Eighth Amendment. Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishment. So I think the Indiana, whoever put that amendment on, is trying to change the.
01:07:26
Speaker 10: They're trying to change the Constitution of the United States. And also, in the Indiana Constitution... It says that because Amendment 2, let's see, Amendment 2, yeah, says that, you know, they want to be able to move criminal prosecutions across county lines. And Section 13 of, I believe it's Article 1, yeah, Article 1 of the Indiana Constitution, Section 13 says, in all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall have the right to a public trial in by an impartial jury in the county in which the offense, in the county in which, in the county in which the offense shall have been committed to be heard by himself and counsel to demand a nature and cause of the accusation against him and have a copy thereof to meet with witnesses face to face and to have compulsory processes for obtaining witnesses in his favor Victims of crimes, as defined by law, shall have the right to be treated with fairness, dignity, and respect throughout the criminal process, and as defined by law, to be informed of and present during public hearings and to confer with the prosecution to the extent that exercising these rights does not infringe upon the constitutional rights of the accused. Lastly, Section 18 of that Article 1 Indiana Constitution, what you were talking about, the penal code shall not the penal code shall not... be founded on that– what they were talking about, but the penal code shall be founded on the principles of reformation and not of vindictive justice. So that's what they're supposed to do. You were talking about your talk with Angela Davis today. Were you a moderator down there?
01:09:20
Speaker 9: Yes.
01:09:22
Speaker 7: Yeah.
01:09:22
Speaker 10: Well, her her program to reform prisons is right on. They're supposed to follow that in Indiana. The penal code shall not shall be founded on the principles of reformation and not of vindictive justice.
01:09:37
Speaker 13: Yeah.
01:09:39
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:09:40
Speaker 9: So, yeah, like you say, trying to play games with rewording the Constitution to their liking.
01:09:50
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's what they were doing.
01:09:51
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:09:51
Speaker 10: To put it in a nutshell, yeah.
01:09:53
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
01:09:54
Speaker 9: 317-480-1310, 317-480-1310. Samuel L. Jackson, how are you? Hey, what's up, Tina, James, and my main man.
01:10:09
Speaker 5: Co-host.
01:10:11
Speaker 9: My main man.
01:10:15
Speaker 7: How's everybody doing today?
01:10:17
Speaker 9: Doing good.
01:10:19
Speaker 7: Hey, look here. For the last month, I've been talking to a different group of people about voting. One of the group are my military buddies. The other group are my church folks. The other group are my kin folks. And the other group People that never voted before. And one of them is my brother. Never, ever voted in his life. He's 74 years old. I know. And he got friends the same way. So I was talking to him last night. I said, why you never voted? He said, for what? He said, for what? I said, see, that's a problem right there. You don't know for what.
01:11:08
Speaker 8: Good answer.
01:11:13
Speaker 10: Good answer. Good answer, yeah.
01:11:17
Speaker 7: And I'm trying to explain to him, but hold that thought right there. Then I go over here to my military buddies. Okay, my military buddies, most of them are, I say, Democrats, okay? And a few of them are kind of Republicans. Of course, you know, you got both sides. And then I come to my church folks, Lord have mercy. Lord, help us. Because I'm telling you, we don't know what we're doing. We don't. And one of the things that I do know that our elders and counselors and ministers is not teaching why people need to vote and the reason they need to vote. Because you're just telling people, go vote, go vote, go vote. Yeah, what are they voting for? Why are they voting? Okay. And the consequence that you don't do and the consequence I say you do do. Okay. Like we did. That was a consequence.
01:12:19
Speaker 9: That was an outcome as opposed to a consequence. It was an outcome. But consequence to me is a, but yeah, consequence would be if we did, you know, you didn't, then what are you talking about? You have no, you know, if you didn't vote, yeah.
01:12:35
Speaker 10: That's what I'm talking about. What are they saying to you, Brother Samuel L.
01:12:40
Speaker 7: Jackson?
01:12:42
Speaker 10: Samuel Jackson, what are.
01:12:43
Speaker 7: They saying to you about?
01:12:45
Speaker 10: When you talk to them, your church members, your family members, your brother who's 74 who never voted, what are they saying to you about gas prices, the grocery store, health care? What are they saying about that?
01:12:58
Speaker 7: Oh, one of the motherfucking men I'm dead brought that up. And then one of the church members said, you know what? I've been voting Democrats for 40-some years, and I never got a dime on a Democrat.
01:13:11
Speaker 6: Now, hold on.
01:13:12
Speaker 7: Hold your thought there. So this time, I'm going to vote and take a chance on Trump so I can get $ 5, 000 so I can get him to help me offset my bills. That's okay. Hey, man, that's what you want to do, okay? So I was telling him about it.
01:13:30
Speaker 10: Why do you have the bills?
01:13:34
Speaker 9: Why do you need $ 5, 000? Why are your bills so high? You know, make the connection. But anyway.
01:13:43
Speaker 7: Well, and then I was talking to my kinfolk. Hey, you know what it is? They said, I don't care what nobody say. Okay, I've been a Democrat all of my life, and there's about 30 of them or two. I'm going for Trump this time. I'm taking the chance, because I've been going to the casino, but trying to win $ 5, 000, and I ain't won no $ 5, 000 yet, so I'm going to take the chance on Trump. I said, you what? Mm-hmm. I think this is the problem with people, uneducated. That's the problem. We need to educate people why we need to vote, who we need to vote for. And if we don't, this could happen.
01:14:20
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:14:22
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying. What can I say? I gave them all a benefit of the doubt, but one, they're not voting. Never vote before. And I would explain to them, people, I said, look, you guys, you guys got to learn how to vote, okay? Especially my brother. He's 74 years old and you never voted in your life. And I didn't know this until you told me last night. So I would talk to him about voting, you know. He said, well, for what? I ain't never voted. And he said, I'm doing good. And he's doing good. He's doing real good. But the majority of the population is not doing good, George.
01:15:00
Speaker 10: Okay.
01:15:01
Speaker 9: Keep talking. Keep talking, Samuel.
01:15:04
Speaker 8: Thank you for talking to us.
01:15:06
Speaker 9: Keep talking, Sam. We appreciate you.
01:15:08
Speaker 7: I am. All right. I'm not telling you who to vote for. But just get out and vote, okay?
01:15:13
Speaker 9: Indeed, indeed. Thank you.
01:15:14
Speaker 8: Thank you.
01:15:15
Speaker 9: Appreciate it. Let's squeeze one more in before we have to go to the break. Sam, go ahead. How are you?
01:15:22
Speaker 3: Hi.
01:15:23
Speaker 11: You were mentioning about the Black Panthers. Well, I got something to say about that. When I was a little girl, I was walking to school, and they had an office like at 30th and Capitol. I was going to school 36. I was coming home. They were out. There was they were outside. They have like a table outside. And the young man said, young lady, are you going home? I say, yeah, I'm going home to get lunch. And he told me, well, listen, if you know anybody that's not getting getting lunch, they're going home and are hungry. You tell you tell your friend, you tell them, come by here. And we'll be outside. We'll be respectful. We will feed them lunch. Lyndon Johnson took that idea about the lunch for the kids. He got that from the Black Panthers. Number two, talk about being respectful. Then I'm a teenager. I was going over to a friend's house, and she lived on Kenwood, and we were playing records. Uh-oh, it's gotten dark. I got to go around the Capitol. And the lights, you know, was really dark. Two young men came up and said, young lady, why are you out on this street and it's dark? I said, I called my parents and let them know I'm on my way home. I live in Capitol. They said, little sister, we will walk you home. They walked me to my door. I mean, they, I said, okay, here's where I live. They said, no, we're going up here to show respect to your family, your parents. I came to the door, and my parents would look like, who are these people? They said, ma'am, sir, your daughter was walking home, and it's dark. We walked her up here. We're the Black Panthers. We want our little sisters to be safe. And so this is the reason why we are here. And my mother said, what? My mother said, oh, thank you.
01:17:24
Speaker 6: Thank you.
01:17:25
Speaker 11: She called us, yes, but we want our young ladies to be safe. I was like, what? From that point on, I was like, I want to be a black fan. I started having a militant attitude, but I couldn't show it until I got to college. Then once I got to college, I put the fro on it and.
01:17:47
Speaker 9: Said, power to the people.
01:17:50
Speaker 7: Power to the people.
01:17:51
Speaker 11: But yeah, they were put down. No, they were for the people. And guess what? At that time, in those times, They didn't want no black folks to be for black folk in their own communities. They didn't want you to vote. OK, don't vote, black folk. Don't vote. Don't vote. Because Trump said one time, if you vote for me, this will be the only time you'll ever have to vote again. And don't nobody say amen to that. You don't know what it is to be in a communist country. I know someone who went to med school there, and she had a brother that was here at IUPUI. And she told me, she said, when she got to America, she feels like a breath of fresh air. Oh, my God. She went to IUPUI to the campus to visit her brother. People are saying, hi, how you doing? She said, in Russia, they're looking their head down.
01:18:49
Speaker 7: They're like.
01:18:49
Speaker 11: are you scared? She said, oh, gosh, you know, an atheist country? And she said, people don't realize what they got in America. But I thought, guess what the next group of people would be? Oh, he's looking at the The Mexicans. Guess what? You'll be next. If he gets his way, don't vote, y'all.
01:19:12
Speaker 13: Don't vote.
01:19:13
Speaker 11: And then guess who's the next group that he's going to round up? And then what? Enslaved folks. Okay, you're going to be here.
01:19:22
Speaker 9: There's a name that's going around for the new group.
01:19:24
Speaker 8: You know, we better wait.
01:19:28
Speaker 11: I don't care.
01:19:28
Speaker 9: I should say next group.
01:19:31
Speaker 7: Okay, I said.
01:19:32
Speaker 11: This when he was doing what he was doing the last time. I started listening to what he said, and I wasn't going to vote for him. I got to respect, you know, help. Then I was like, oh, hell to the no. Don't vote for him. Don't vote, and then it'll be your fault. Because guess what? He'll come back. Well, he'll come after me. If he's coming after the Mexicans, don't think all of us, not me. He's going to be coming after us.
01:19:57
Speaker 13: So you better vote.
01:20:00
Speaker 11: My grandfather was Native American, three-quarters Indian, one-fourth French. He told me, and my father told me, both of them, when you get ready to be able to vote, they said register for all your, every time it's time to vote, whatever it is.
01:20:16
Speaker 7: Vote.
01:20:17
Speaker 11: Because this is your country.
01:20:22
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
01:20:23
Speaker 9: And you know what? This is our last, one of our last days to remind people. Thank you, Sam. I appreciate it. Thank you. Have a great weekend.
01:20:31
Speaker 5: I will. I will.
01:20:33
Speaker 9: So, I don't know. We're doing the best we can. We really are doing the best we can. Let's go ahead and take a break. And when we come back, We will tell you what we were talking about the first hour after this.
01:20:56
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the conversation. It's Community Connection with Tina Cosby from the Praise Indie IndieGo Studios on Praise AM 1310, 95.1 FM.
01:21:08
Speaker 9: And we are back with Community Connection. James Patterson and Eric Garnet here with us on this lovely Friday.
01:21:15
Speaker 6: It's lovely.
01:21:16
Speaker 9: Yeah, another quick synopsis of the weather here. It looks threatening, but you say it's not?
01:21:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks threatening, but it's not. James, would you agree? It looks threatening, of course, but.
01:21:27
Speaker 10: I would agree, y'all.
01:21:29
Speaker 2: It's... Showers to the south of us.
01:21:32
Speaker 10: Yeah. We expect a mostly cloudy day today, although we should see some sunshine later today.
01:21:39
Speaker 7: We're hoping for that.
01:21:40
Speaker 10: But the clouds are thick and they are.
01:21:42
Speaker 13: Slow to move, so.
01:21:44
Speaker 10: We hope before, you know, the time for the sun to go down completely.
01:21:47
Speaker 9: I was going to say, it won't be too much daylight.
01:21:49
Speaker 2: Maybe it's more daylight in here.
01:21:52
Speaker 9: The day will be gone before the sun shows up.
01:21:55
Speaker 10: I'm hoping, Tina. I'm hoping. I'm hoping. I got my hands in here. I'm hoping that we can squeeze some rays in here.
01:22:02
Speaker 13: Yeah.
01:22:02
Speaker 10: The rain that pushed through central Indiana overnight and this morning. ushered in a cooler pattern so you may have to break out the jackets and the sweaters for this weekend but it's going to be absolutely beautiful when eric came on the air today nobody was with him.
01:22:19
Speaker 9: Okay i was trying i was barreling.
01:22:22
Speaker 2: This way she was making her way she was she was coming in i was coming.
01:22:26
Speaker 7: I was on the way She was headed this way.
01:22:29
Speaker 9: We had an icon. I mean, you just don't leave when you're sitting next to Angela Davis.
01:22:35
Speaker 10: It was a lifetime opportunity to see her.
01:22:37
Speaker 9: It really was, yeah.
01:22:38
Speaker 10: 66 degrees, though, when he came on. So all in all, it'll be a little bit cooler. We should have... You know, we'll have sunshine tomorrow and Sunday, and it'll be in the lower 70s tomorrow and then Sunday a little bit better, maybe mid-70s, but just gorgeous, perfect weather. We don't expect to see any precipitation or rain for quite a while. I'm going to say the next seven days or so, you should not be able to see rain. So beautiful temperatures will be a little cooler early next week, but that's it, Tina.
01:23:13
Speaker 2: Get that vitamin D with the sun.
01:23:14
Speaker 9: Yeah. And the gel capsules. I take the shortcut. But, you know, speaking, you know, one of the things that we talked about today was investing more in our young people. And it's it's really nice to be able to bring these programs to the show that do just that. And here now with us is Donna Brown. She is with the Womack Memorial CME Church. And WOMAC and a neighborhood community association, neighborhood, yeah, neighborhood community association, Meridian Kessler Neighborhood Association, they've combined forces to provide a program for young people of all ages, various ages, you know, to have something fun, safe, and interesting to do on a Saturday night. So first of all, welcome.
01:24:05
Speaker 10: Welcome, Ms.
01:24:05
Speaker 9: Brown, to the show. Glad to have you with us today.
01:24:07
Speaker 3: Thank you, Tina.
01:24:08
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:24:09
Speaker 9: So how did this all come about? I mean, what precipitated everything?
01:24:13
Speaker 17: Well, what happened was, like, on Sunday mornings when we were sitting around waiting for Sunday school to start, we'd talk about things that had been going on in the community and things that happened like the day before or during the week. And normally we just go, oh, did you hear about this? Did you hear about that? And we started hearing a whole bunch about young people in precarious, always in trouble on Saturday nights. They're downtown acting out and they're this place and that place. They're getting into a lot of.
01:24:48
Speaker 3: Trouble.
01:24:49
Speaker 17: And so we thought, what could we do to get our children something to do in their complaint was we don't have anything to do on Saturday night. All day, there's plenty to do, but when the lights go down, there's nothing to do. And so we came up with this program. We have a beautiful basement gymnasium that Meridian Catholic Neighborhood Association has provided for us.
01:25:09
Speaker 3: And it's a beautiful gymnasium. And we thought, we don't use it.
01:25:12
Speaker 17: Why don't we give it, open it up to our children to come, have a good safe space to come and have a good time, play basketball, and just keep them out of trouble.
01:25:21
Speaker 3: Between the hours of 5 and 10.
01:25:23
Speaker 17: And that was the hours that they were really starting to get into mischief. And so we came up with this idea to open up our basement to a basketball and see if we could get kids to come and spend some time doing fun stuff.
01:25:37
Speaker 9: So what's the youngest age that you can accommodate all the way up to?
01:25:41
Speaker 17: It was from kindergarten through high school.
01:25:44
Speaker 10: Wow.
01:25:45
Speaker 17: And what we did was we put it in groups, time groups, so they're not all there at the same time.
01:25:51
Speaker 3: Trying to do the same thing.
01:25:52
Speaker 17: And so we have three time periods where the children can come, kindergarten through sixth grade.
01:26:00
Speaker 3: Then we have middle school, and then we have high school.
01:26:05
Speaker 9: Is it just basketball, or are there other things that the youngsters can do in that space?
01:26:11
Speaker 17: Well, right now it's just basketball. We can't even get that off the ground. So we're trying to get that squared away and together. And then everyone has said, what are you doing besides basketball? Because everybody doesn't play basketball. and we know that. But they can watch basketball if they don't play. We're going to have a concession stand where they can get snacks and food to keep them busy and then watch the other people play if they are not interested. So right now we're focusing on trying to get the basketball, and then we have other ideas to try to get the kids to do something while they're the ones who are not interested in basketball. Right now we have limited space. We're in the basement, and so we're just trying to come up. We want to get the basketball off the ground, and then we can branch off to other.
01:26:49
Speaker 9: It's a great idea because... At least you're starting, you know, so often people say, well, what are we going to do? What are we going to do? And then, you know, there are those that say, what are we going to do? And then there's those that say, well, let's do this or let's at least try this. And it's never perfect at the beginning. It never is. But at least it's step number one to try to get things going. So you have the, you know, from kindergarten, something from kindergarten all the way to, you know, to and through high school.
01:27:15
Speaker 3: Yes.
01:27:15
Speaker 17: And the key part of this program is that we're trying to provide a secure space. So we have security that we're paying for to keep our place secure while the children are there. And so we've done that. And just something to do for the kids to have something to do. So they can't say, there's nothing to do. Well, you may not like basketball, but you come and watch the kids play.
01:27:40
Speaker 3: Have a good time. Meet friends.
01:27:42
Speaker 7: Eat the snacks.
01:27:42
Speaker 3: Yeah. Meet new friends.
01:27:44
Speaker 17: Make new acquaintances. And just come to have a good time and see where we can go with that. So that's where we are.
01:27:50
Speaker 9: Okay. James, I love the concept.
01:27:56
Speaker 10: Yeah, I do too. So is it Ms.
01:27:59
Speaker 6: Brown, Tina?
01:28:00
Speaker 5: Did I get the name right?
01:28:01
Speaker 3: Yes, it's Donna.
01:28:02
Speaker 10: Yeah, Ms. Donna Brown. Good name, good name. That was my.
01:28:07
Speaker 12: Wife's maiden name.
01:28:08
Speaker 15: Oh, really?
01:28:10
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:28:10
Speaker 10: What a gal.
01:28:12
Speaker 7: What a gal.
01:28:14
Speaker 10: Yeah, so, yeah. What did Eric say?
01:28:17
Speaker 9: No, Ms. Brown said, what a gal.
01:28:19
Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
01:28:20
Speaker 3: Talking about your wife.
01:28:21
Speaker 13: I thought Eric said, okay.
01:28:23
Speaker 10: But anyway, Ms. Brown, so where is your church located for everybody? And did you say it's in the basement of that building?
01:28:31
Speaker 17: Yes, our church is located at 4401 Carrollton Avenue, Indianapolis, Indiana, 46205. We're in what is called now Lower Broad River.
01:28:40
Speaker 13: Oh, yeah.
01:28:41
Speaker 17: And so it's got a new name, and that's where it's located. Our church is on the corner. It's a very big building, but we have a small congregation, and we're trying to do something that we can to help our children have a good time. You know, kids are supposed to have a good time when they're growing up and not so much all this violence and all.
01:28:58
Speaker 3: This negative activity that's going on in their lives.
01:29:03
Speaker 17: And so we're just trying to provide some place for them to come and meet new friends and have a good time.
01:29:08
Speaker 13: What's the name of the church?
01:29:10
Speaker 3: The church is called Womack Memorial CME Church.
01:29:14
Speaker 10: Yeah, and Tina, ask her, it says in the basement you're playing basketball. Is there enough room down there for a basketball court?
01:29:21
Speaker 15: Really?
01:29:21
Speaker 3: It's a full court.
01:29:23
Speaker 10: It's a full court.
01:29:24
Speaker 3: Oh, wow. Yes, it is. Absolutely, yep. That church was built in 1925 with a full court basketball court. It's beautiful. It's been recently restored.
01:29:34
Speaker 17: And so we just had all, it's redone, restored and it's ready to play.
01:29:40
Speaker 10: Yeah, so you're going to go, you got the kindergartners and you're going to also you're going to try to reach out to the older children as well to engage them?
01:29:50
Speaker 17: Yes, and so we're starting with the younger children just because it's earlier in the evening and we have them between 5 and 6. They can come and We only have a couple of coaches, and so we're still looking for volunteers.
01:30:04
Speaker 9: I was going to say, that's the biggest piece.
01:30:06
Speaker 17: These aren't my kids, and they're not really gung-ho as far as doing something for someone else's children. And so that's kind of a challenge for us, that we've had a little problem trying to get volunteers to come and participate as coaches with the children. But they have provided. We've got tons of equipment. We bought balls and a whole bunch of things to have.
01:30:30
Speaker 9: So is this a league or just an open gym?
01:30:33
Speaker 3: It's an open gym right now.
01:30:35
Speaker 17: The men are talking about starting leagues, but the two gentlemen who come and volunteer, they're talking about starting leagues. So right now we're just kind of open to see where we're going to go. But we just kind of have an open gym concept. They just come and play. They say, oh, no, no, no, maybe we can get a league and this sort of thing.
01:30:53
Speaker 9: So what is required of the young people and their parents to participate?
01:30:58
Speaker 3: Just come and sign up so we'll know who's in our gymnasium. That's it.
01:31:02
Speaker 9: Can you sign up at any time, or is there a sign-up window?
01:31:05
Speaker 3: Yes. Well, you can sign up any time.
01:31:07
Speaker 17: But what's going on now is I think his name is DJ Swift is coming on Saturday the 10th.
01:31:14
Speaker 9: B-Swift? Yeah, B-Swift.
01:31:16
Speaker 3: B-Swift. DJ B-Swift. Oh, that's okay. I'll call him DJ Swift.
01:31:20
Speaker 9: DJ Swift. He'll take it. I'm sure he'll take it. Yeah, B-Swift.
01:31:23
Speaker 3: He's coming on the 10th, and he's going to give us a big kickoff.
01:31:26
Speaker 9: Oh, good.
01:31:28
Speaker 17: And we're just hoping that this really gives us the boost that we need to get this program off the ground.
01:31:35
Speaker 9: Swift is great.
01:31:36
Speaker 2: You'll bring the fun.
01:31:37
Speaker 10: And I hope part of that program is going to be because you've got the children coming after school and to keep them, give them something to do.
01:31:44
Speaker 9: No, this is on Saturday, James. Saturday night.
01:31:47
Speaker 3: That's when they get in the most trouble.
01:31:50
Speaker 9: Yeah, when they can get in.
01:31:51
Speaker 10: Okay, I was going to suggest I didn't know the time, tutoring, school programs, that sort of thing, help with homework. You got any of that in mind?
01:32:03
Speaker 3: We do that during the week.
01:32:06
Speaker 7: Oh, you do it during the week.
01:32:08
Speaker 17: That's a totally different program. Yes, our church does offer tutoring.
01:32:14
Speaker 3: During the week on Wednesdays and Thursdays, something like that. But yes, we do offer that.
01:32:21
Speaker 17: For anyone, but mostly we just have participants or the children that attend the church. But it's not really widely known, but we do offer it to anyone.
01:32:29
Speaker 9: So you're saying registration is required. They just have to register and have parental consent?
01:32:34
Speaker 3: Yes, that's it.
01:32:35
Speaker 9: And so is there, are there sessions, no fees?
01:32:39
Speaker 2: No fees.
01:32:39
Speaker 9: So this is just, now when does this start and how long will it last or go through?
01:32:44
Speaker 17: Well, it's going to start October the 10th is our kickoff. And then after that, we're going to get together to see who we have on first, second, and third, how many people we have who have volunteered to come. And the official start date will be the first Saturday in November. After we get all of our people in place and try to get the program scheduled out, then we'll start officially on the first Saturday in November.
01:33:08
Speaker 3: I think that is November.
01:33:10
Speaker 9: First Saturday in November.
01:33:14
Speaker 3: Well, that's our official kickoff date.
01:33:15
Speaker 17: And it starts five to six is our first group for our Kindergarteners.
01:33:22
Speaker 3: And then our second.
01:33:24
Speaker 9: The little ones.
01:33:25
Speaker 3: Yep.
01:33:26
Speaker 17: And then we'll start with the next group, which would be our middle school children.
01:33:31
Speaker 3: And then our high schoolers bring.
01:33:32
Speaker 9: Up the real.
01:33:34
Speaker 17: And we had the program going until 1030, but the police asked us to start it, I mean, to end at 10 so that we give the children a chance to get home by 11.
01:33:43
Speaker 3: They want them off the street, they said.
01:33:46
Speaker 9: And so October 10th on a Saturday is the first day registration opens.
01:33:51
Speaker 7: Yes.
01:33:51
Speaker 9: And the first Saturday in November is November Saturday, November 7th.
01:33:56
Speaker 3: All right. So November 7th is our first day. Yeah.
01:34:00
Speaker 10: Well, kudos to her, Tina, but you can miss Brown because I was just looking at this homicide tracker and we are still below 100. And this is almost this is October.
01:34:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good.
01:34:12
Speaker 10: Yes, that's what I'm saying. We are still below 100. That is really historic numbers. And it's because of programs like Ms. Brown's. It's because of those in the community working with the mentors, the club. You know what I'm saying, Tina? All of the programs, we start naming them and we don't have enough room on our notebooks.
01:34:38
Speaker 9: Well, it's an all-hands-on-deck situation right now.
01:34:41
Speaker 3: That's what's happening.
01:34:42
Speaker 10: That's what's bringing it down.
01:34:45
Speaker 9: Pastor Willoughby, go ahead. How are you? Pastor Willoughby, are you there?
01:34:50
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm here. Can you hear me?
01:34:53
Speaker 7: Yes, yes.
01:34:54
Speaker 9: Go ahead.
01:34:55
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:34:55
Speaker 7: Okay.
01:34:56
Speaker 12: The only reason I'm concerned about this is because I'm receiving calls. I heard the lady earlier call in about the questions on the ballot. And we only got till early voting starts.
01:35:09
Speaker 3: Tuesday, right?
01:35:10
Speaker 9: Okay, I thought you were calling in about the program. Yes, early voting does start on Tuesday, yes. But, yeah, so what's your question? We were talking about the kids' program for Saturday nights.
01:35:26
Speaker 10: Oh, okay.
01:35:27
Speaker 12: Okay, I'm sorry.
01:35:28
Speaker 9: Oh, that's okay.
01:35:29
Speaker 10: He was talking about the amendments, Tina, and you're going to have Julia Vaughn on on Monday.
01:35:34
Speaker 9: Monday, yeah, tune in Monday.
01:35:36
Speaker 10: Yeah, you can delve into that question about.
01:35:38
Speaker 9: This, because this is very important.
01:35:40
Speaker 13: Yeah.
01:35:40
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:35:41
Speaker 10: Okay.
01:35:42
Speaker 7: Okay.
01:35:42
Speaker 3: All right.
01:35:43
Speaker 13: If you ask somebody on Monday.
01:35:45
Speaker 8: Okay, good.
01:35:46
Speaker 7: Yes.
01:35:46
Speaker 6: Yes.
01:35:46
Speaker 9: She'll be here Monday. Thank you. Thank you. But back to the youth program for Saturday nights. I love that it's Saturday night. I love that it's on Saturday and I love that it's in the evening. And I really like. that it's for all through, you know, kindergarten, middle, and high school, something to do. And this is at the Womack Memorial CME Church at 44th and Carrollton?
01:36:12
Speaker 3: Correct.
01:36:12
Speaker 9: 44th and Carrollton, which has a full-size gymnasium in the basement.
01:36:18
Speaker 10: In the basement.
01:36:20
Speaker 3: That's amazing.
01:36:21
Speaker 9: That you all are opening up in collaboration also with the Meridian Kessler Neighborhood Association. Now, tell me about their part. What's their role going to be?
01:36:30
Speaker 17: What their role is, what they have basically done, they are airing all of our information on their website, which is a good thing.
01:36:38
Speaker 3: And so that takes care of that side of the community.
01:36:42
Speaker 17: And what they have done, we applied for a grant, and they gave us the grant, which funded this program.
01:36:49
Speaker 7: Wonderful.
01:36:49
Speaker 17: And so that has been a really big help to our adventure, which.
01:36:55
Speaker 3: Is to try to put this together.
01:36:57
Speaker 17: So they have come through financially in a big way, and it has made a big difference.
01:37:01
Speaker 9: Yeah, you financially always does. Absolutely. So we got another caller. Robin, go ahead.
01:37:08
Speaker 2: How are you?
01:37:10
Speaker 14: Hi, I'm good.
01:37:11
Speaker 7: How are you?
01:37:11
Speaker 9: Doing good. Thank you.
01:37:13
Speaker 12: Great.
01:37:14
Speaker 14: I was listening and I actually have a business. I make custom jewelry. It's called My Best Friend's Jewelry Box. And it's after honoring my mom. I would like to know if I could offer just maybe a jewelry making something for the kids to do one of those evenings.
01:37:37
Speaker 9: One of those.
01:37:38
Speaker 14: Good idea.
01:37:39
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
01:37:40
Speaker 9: Yeah.
01:37:41
Speaker 3: That's a great idea.
01:37:42
Speaker 9: How kind.
01:37:42
Speaker 10: How kind.
01:37:43
Speaker 6: See?
01:37:44
Speaker 7: What a good idea.
01:37:45
Speaker 10: Yeah.
01:37:46
Speaker 3: Yes, I would love to write that. That's a great idea.
01:37:48
Speaker 9: I tell you what, Robin, can you, before you hang up, can you leave your information with Eric, and then Eric will pass it along to Ms.
01:37:56
Speaker 8: Brown.
01:37:57
Speaker 9: Thank you. And then you two can connect, okay?
01:38:00
Speaker 6: Absolutely.
01:38:01
Speaker 3: Thank you.
01:38:01
Speaker 9: Okay, so, yeah, don't hang up, because Eric's going to take your number, and then Ms. Brown will get in touch with you.
01:38:06
Speaker 2: All righty.
01:38:06
Speaker 3: Thank you.
01:38:07
Speaker 9: Okay, thank you. All right, thank you. See, it's catching on already. That's wonderful. And, you know, it goes to what we say, I say so often, people are basically good. And most people are basically good. And they want to do something to help. They don't want to, you know, they don't want to write the kids off or whatever. Most people want to help them and give them something to do. But we need us as adults to get more involved, to help out, because what we're doing is modeling behavior that they need to see.
01:38:39
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
01:38:40
Speaker 9: That's right.
01:38:40
Speaker 10: They need to see it.
01:38:42
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:38:42
Speaker 17: So everything that we can do positively is always a good thing.
01:38:45
Speaker 13: Yeah.
01:38:46
Speaker 12: Yeah.
01:38:46
Speaker 3: So that's why we're.
01:38:47
Speaker 17: Really focusing on this program. I think everyone at church thinks it's a great idea. And the thing of it is, it's just getting adults involved because a lot of adults, and on a Saturday, you know, I got tons of stuff to do. I'm not trying to sit around all day and hang out with somebody else's children.
01:39:01
Speaker 9: Take one Saturday out of four. Just volunteer for an hour or two.
01:39:05
Speaker 7: Yeah.
01:39:06
Speaker 9: One Saturday, you know, just dedicated. That's what we're looking for. Yeah.
01:39:08
Speaker 3: That's exactly what we're looking for.
01:39:10
Speaker 9: Indeed. So, um, What's the phone number slash website or whatever for people to find out more about registration, getting involved, signing their kids up, or volunteering, or all of the above? All of the above.
01:39:23
Speaker 7: Thank you.
01:39:23
Speaker 3: Please, yes. Our church's phone number is 317-283-5241. That's 317-283-5241.
01:39:26
Speaker 17: That's Womack Memorial CME Church, 4401 Carrollton Avenue, Indianapolis, Indiana.
01:39:30
Speaker 3: 46226.
01:39:42
Speaker 17: The website is the same as the church's name, WomackMemorialCMEChurch.com.
01:39:47
Speaker 9: Womack, and it's spelled W-O-M-A-C-K. Yes, CME Church. Like Bobby Womack.
01:39:53
Speaker 5: Yes.
01:39:54
Speaker 13: Uh-huh.
01:39:55
Speaker 9: No connection, I'm sure.
01:39:58
Speaker 8: None, none.
01:39:59
Speaker 9: Womack.
01:40:00
Speaker 3: That's the name of the church.
01:40:01
Speaker 9: Memorial CME Church.
01:40:02
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
01:40:03
Speaker 9: I say that for her. R & B lovers. But, no, thank you. And, again, thank you. Any final questions, James or Eric? Oh, Eric's over there working. He's getting that number for you.
01:40:15
Speaker 10: I just want to congratulate and lift up Ms. Brown and the work that she's doing. Yes, I mean, you are phenomenal because these children need somebody to pay attention to them, to listen to them.
01:40:30
Speaker 9: Just to validate them. Let them know they matter, too.
01:40:33
Speaker 10: Yes.
01:40:34
Speaker 6: And who they are.
01:40:35
Speaker 10: Let them know they don't know who they are. Oh, my God, they're somebody. Yeah.
01:40:40
Speaker 3: And they deserve to have a safe place to grow up.
01:40:44
Speaker 17: You know, no one wants to be always duckling, dodging, bullshitting, can't go anywhere and have a good time. They deserve to have a childhood full of fun just like we.
01:40:52
Speaker 3: Did when we grew up.
01:40:53
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:40:54
Speaker 17: And so that's what we're trying to offer them, just something different than all the negative behavior that's been going on all around them too often.
01:41:00
Speaker 9: What's the name of the program? Does it have a name?
01:41:04
Speaker 2: Yes.
01:41:05
Speaker 9: Okay. Let me get it. Let's see.
01:41:08
Speaker 10: Did she have a website too, Ms.
01:41:09
Speaker 7: Brown?
01:41:10
Speaker 6: You don't have a website?
01:41:10
Speaker 9: Free Weekend Night Open Basketball.
01:41:13
Speaker 3: Pastor calls it the Saturday Night Hoop.
01:41:15
Speaker 9: Saturday Night Hoop?
01:41:16
Speaker 3: Saturday Night Hoop.
01:41:18
Speaker 2: I like that. Saturday Night Hoop.
01:41:20
Speaker 3: Saturday Night Hoop.
01:41:21
Speaker 9: Okay, Saturday Night. Let's see. Elementary, 530 to 7. Middle School, 730 to 9. And high school?
01:41:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had to amend those times.
01:41:31
Speaker 9: Amend those times, okay.
01:41:32
Speaker 3: At home by 11. So 5 to 6. 5 to 6. Then 6.30 to 7.
01:41:34
Speaker 5: 6.30 to 7.
01:41:34
Speaker 9: No, it's not.
01:41:34
Speaker 3: It's 6.30 to 8.
01:41:35
Speaker 9: Then 8.30 to 10. There you go. That's how it works. So you don't have a website yet?
01:41:39
Speaker 3: The church's website. We're trying to get that together. It's up and under construction, but we're.
01:41:44
Speaker 9: Trying to get it together. But know that it's coming.
01:41:59
Speaker 10: It is.
01:42:00
Speaker 3: It is.
01:42:00
Speaker 9: Along with the name. No, thank you. I appreciate you. Thank you for doing that. This is what we like to end a Friday. You know, this is how we like to end a Friday.
01:42:09
Speaker 2: On a positive note.
01:42:10
Speaker 9: On a positive note. Indeed. Indeed. So James and Eric. we're heading into the weekend, you guys. Final weekend before voter registration ends.
01:42:21
Speaker 10: Yes, it is.
01:42:21
Speaker 3: Which is Monday.
01:42:22
Speaker 9: This is the final weekend. Check it out. IndianaVoters.com. IndianaVoters.com. Check out everything. Make sure you're still there. Make sure you're still active and make sure you are correct. Come correct, okay?
01:42:36
Speaker 1: Come correct.
01:42:37
Speaker 9: Come correct.
01:42:37
Speaker 7: Definitely.
01:42:38
Speaker 9: Take somebody with you, too.
01:42:39
Speaker 3: Not a gang.
01:42:40
Speaker 7: No, no.
01:42:40
Speaker 9: It's too serious. It's too serious to take lightly.
01:42:43
Speaker 8: Absolutely.
01:42:43
Speaker 9: We absolutely have to make sure. And I, too, James and Eric, I'm going to check mine one last time.
01:42:49
Speaker 3: I'm going to do the same.
01:42:50
Speaker 9: I keep checking just to make sure.
01:42:52
Speaker 10: Yeah, I checked mine recently. It's good. I believe that people are going to do the right thing this time, Tina.
01:42:58
Speaker 9: I think so.
01:43:00
Speaker 10: There's no too many times you can, you know, remind people in your circle, in your associations, hey— You know, we need your help this time. We really, really need your help.
01:43:10
Speaker 9: We got to have y'all. We need you. And bring somebody with you. Bring somebody with you to register and to vote. Make your voting plan after you get your registration in order. Make your plan to vote. And, you know, just ask around, see who wants to go. And if they don't want to go, go get them anyway. We got to get these numbers.
01:43:28
Speaker 2: Pick them up.
01:43:28
Speaker 9: Pick them up. Pick them up. That is all the time we have for right now. As always, thank you, everyone, for listening. Thank you again, Tony Mason and the Indianapolis Urban League, for an absolutely brilliant morning. I couldn't have had a better time. So thank you, thank you, thank you for including me in your special day today. Willie Moore Jr. on the radio is up next. Please continue to be safe, be well, and to stay informed. For everyone here, Eric, James, and myself, This is Community Connection.
Speaker 1: WTLC AM, W236 CR Indianapolis. Broadcasting from the Praise Indy Indigo Studios. Discussing the issues that matter to you. It's Community Connection with Tina Cosby on Praise AM 1310, 95.1 FM.
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Speaker 2: Well, good afternoon. It's Eric Garns. Tina's on her way in. She's been down at the Walker Center and had a chance to meet and interview the one and only Angela Davis, who's in town and... had a chance to give a speech there, and Tina had a chance to talk with her as well, so she'll be coming in shortly. So I'm Eric Garns, producer, and sometimes saying a few words when Tina's on, and I think James Patterson's going to be checking in shortly. Hope you're having a good day. Welcome to Friday. Friday? Yeah, it's Friday. Want to double-check and make sure I was right about that. And speaking of that, normally right about now we would check the weather, see what's going on with the weather, and so let's do that. Well, for today, as you can probably see where you are right now, the clouds are hanging on. 65 downtown at the current. Check of the temperature. It's going to be cloudy for the most part throughout the day. A slight chance of some showers coming up this afternoon. High about 68. Then tonight, skies are going to be clearing, making way for an exceptionally wonderful weekend. How about a high near 70 for tomorrow? Then on Sunday, a high around 75. It's going to be a perfect weekend. Maybe a chance to get out and do some grilling. Just get out and do some last minute things you didn't get to finish up when it was officially still summer. So I would take advantage of that if you can this weekend, an opportunity to get out there and enjoy a beautiful fall weekend coming our way. Maybe do some grilling out. Maybe is it too soon for marshmallows?
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Speaker 3: Probably so.
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Speaker 2: But anyway, Eric Garns again for Tina. Tina Cosby coming in shortly at 317-480-1310 is the number to the show.
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Speaker 4: 317-480-1310.
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Speaker 2: Coming up today. Church Community Cavalry Collaboration is sharing how they're working together to help young people of all ages to do something good. And I got a feeling, let's see if this might be James. I'm going to see if it's James here. Let's go there. Let's see. Is it James?
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Speaker 5: Hello?
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Speaker 2: It's not James. Hey, it's Eric Garns in for Tina at the moment. Who am I speaking with?
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Speaker 6: This is Guy calling.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Guy, how are you? You doing all right?
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Speaker 7: I thought I'd.
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Speaker 6: Call in and use this extra time before Tina gets in. We were on the HBCU college fair last night.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, were you there last night for that event?
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Speaker 6: Yes.
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Speaker 2: How did it go?
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Speaker 6: It went well.
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Speaker 2: That was at North Central High School. Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah. They had about 400 students. Oh, that's... Yeah, it was real nice. It went real well.
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Speaker 2: That's a very nice turnout. That is outstanding. So it was a good time last night, educational and.
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Speaker 7: Yes.
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Speaker 6: I was impressed by the turnout, particularly of some of the Divine Nine, you know, sororities and fraternities. There were some Kappas there. There were... some AKs there. Um, and, uh, particularly I'd like to, to shout out to the, um, to the, uh, um, Delta Sigma Theta sorority alumni chapter. They did a tremendous job in terms of, uh, voter registration and, and, uh, they really went into it. They have, uh, uh, well-coordinated, uh, uh, program to try to make sure that people are registered. They found out that some of the, the folks, uh, um, thought they were registered and then they checked and they found out that they really weren't on the list.
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Speaker 2: You know, that is amazing to me. That's amazing how that can happen. They can, you know, they're registered and all of a sudden their names are gone. Tina and I've talked about that so many times and James, you know, how was that happening? How are they not there? You know?
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Speaker 6: Yeah. And, and you, you may remember that, uh, the Trump administration required states to turn in their voter rolls at one time. And the red states cooperated. I don't think the blue states or the purple states cooperated, but Indiana was one that sent in the voter roll, supposedly. And so you just wonder, were they eliminating people willy-nilly? You know, so it might be a conspiracy. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: That's not legal to do, though, is it? I don't think that's legal to, you know.
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Speaker 6: Well, we don't have a legal president.
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Speaker 8: Well, you're right.
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Speaker 2: You can say that. You can say that again. That's true.
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Speaker 6: That is so true. They're not going to worry about laws. You know, they're going to do what they want to do.
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Speaker 2: And that's what's happening.
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Speaker 6: And that's what's happening. So it's the kind of thing where we have to be. on our toes. Back in the day, you know, I grew up in public housing in Lockfield Gardens here.
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Speaker 7: Right.
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Speaker 6: And even as young people, you know, because that was during the World War II, the days of World War II, Pearl Harbor, and all of that. And even as youngsters, we had a phrase we said, on guard, which was taken from the Three Musketeers. So we would always say, on guard. So you got to be on guard, man, you know.
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Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely. Lockfield Gardens, those were the first, weren't they the first, was it projects that were built in the United States? I think I heard in 1930s, I think originally.
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Speaker 6: Exactly, exactly.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were beautiful at the time too, my understanding.
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Speaker 6: And at the Christmas Addicts Museum, which is at Addicts High School here in town, they have a replica of the original Lockville Gardens.
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Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
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Speaker 6: Folks can get an idea if they're interested on actually how it was laid out and how it looked and that kind of thing.
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Speaker 2: That'd be nice to see. That's something I've never seen. I remember as a kid seeing Lockfield before they had torn down many of the buildings, but I've never... I'd like to see how it was. That model would be nice to see.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was so well constructed. They had a hard time tearing it down.
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Speaker 2: I remember reading about that and hearing about that, definitely.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, they had a hard time. It was so well, they were so well built. And, you know, they did keep, I think, at least three of the original buildings.
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Speaker 3: That's true, that's true.
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Speaker 6: Of the so-called... Apartments.
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Speaker 3: Apartments, yes, yes.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, with Waters, Indiana Avenue, and I guess they call it, it used to be called Lock Street, but I think they changed the name.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they've changed a lot over there. A lot over the years has changed.
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Speaker 5: Well, Mr.
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Speaker 2: Russell, thank you. Thank you for the information. Thank you for the HBC update. Glad to hear things went well there last night.
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Speaker 6: And also, I'd like to urge people, they better check, even if they think they're registered, check with the voter registration office.
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Speaker 2: Good idea. Definitely must do that.
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Speaker 6: Double check because, you know, there might be a lot of hanky-panky going on, and we don't want that to happen.
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Speaker 2: That is true, and I'm going to check again. I know I'm already registered, but I'm going to double, triple check again just to make sure, just to make sure. Thank you, sir.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's wise.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. Have a great weekend, and thank you very much.
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Speaker 6: And take care.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. You too. Tina.
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Speaker 3: Hey.
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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hey. Trying to fill some big shoes.
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Speaker 9: Oh, please.
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Speaker 2: Huge shoes.
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Speaker 9: You are handling it, handling it, handling it. And, yeah, thank you so much for stepping in there. I got out just in time to get over here. But what a phenomenal.
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Speaker 2: I know it was. This might be James.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I believe it might be. But anyway, as Eric has already done, welcomed you to Community Connection. Today is Friday, October 2nd. I'm Tina Cosby.
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Speaker 7: 317-480-1310.
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Speaker 9: 317-480-1310 is the number to the show. We're going to do open lines and weekend review. most of the show. But in our second hour, a church community collaboration is sharing how they're working together to help give young people of all ages something fun, something nice, something good to do on a Saturday night. Everybody wants something good, something fun to do on a Saturday night. And so a neighborhood association, the church, they're all getting together to present this program we're going to hear in more about that, because how often do we hear that there's just nothing to do, there's nothing to do in Indianapolis for our young folks? Well, this is one of the options that's now available. So 317-480-1310, that is going to be coming up in our second hour. Eric, what's been going on?
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Speaker 2: Well, the weather. Did the weather already?
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Speaker 3: We've got the weather.
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Speaker 2: It's going to be a beautiful weekend. Lots of sunshine. Really, in a word, sunny. sunny it's gonna be very nice tomorrow sunny uh 69 75 on sunday i mentioned earlier maybe drill out a little bit if you.
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Speaker 9: Want a little gray right now but i think that's gonna.
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Speaker 2: Pass yeah it's 65 as it came on the.
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Speaker 9: Year 65 let's go ahead and bring in uh we talked about him he's here james patterson our contributing analyst james are you there I am.
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Speaker 10: Indeed, Tina. I just caught a little bit of what you were talking about that's coming up. Sounds interesting. The first thing I thought about when I heard that was, remember we had Ebony Chappelle on Wednesday and she was talking about the event at Indiana University Indianapolis on Saturday.
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's what I thought about the first time when I heard your voice. So don't forget to remind folks about that as well.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's Saturday day, and this is coming up Saturday night. So your Saturdays are going to be full. They will definitely be full on Saturday. But Eric, I'm sure, oh, there's Chase.
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Speaker 3: He's back too.
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Speaker 9: The reason that I was just a tad bit late is that I had the honor and the privilege of being with the Indianapolis Urban League and you, the community, for what was an absolutely amazing, amazing visit with Angela Davis.
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Speaker 7: Dr.
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Speaker 9: Angela Davis. I mean, it's just hard to put into words. I still can't believe that I was on stage with her, that I got to talk to her, interview her, got to interview her a couple of times, but actually got to introduce her. But it was part of an overall day, part of a really, really good day, a really good event on reentry, the prison system, how we can all do better, and she She knocked it out of the park. I mean, she was just phenomenal. There was a panel discussion prior to her taking the stage, and they knocked it out of the park. They were amazing. So hats off to Tony Mason and the entire Indianapolis Urban League for an absolutely phenomenal, phenomenal program that they put on this morning. It was just, I don't know. It left me speechless. Again, I can't believe. that I was able to be a part of something so huge and to be able to sit next to such an iconic figure in our history, civil rights history, living history.
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Speaker 2: Living history, that's so true.
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Speaker 9: And she could not have been more gracious, welcoming, friendly, just, she was just.
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Speaker 5: Great.
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Speaker 9: Absolutely great. Thoughtful, engaging. you know, you name it. And she certainly is. What's that? I'm going to say it. Black don't crack. She does not look like she's 82 years old.
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Speaker 3: That's amazing.
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Speaker 9: She said it on stage. I'm not saying anything.
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Speaker 2: So she's 82.
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Speaker 3: It's 82.
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Speaker 9: Wow. I think soon to be 83. I think her birthday is in January.
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Speaker 3: Wow.
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Speaker 9: But, um, but James and Eric, I'm sure I know you both are all, uh, familiar with the Angela Davis story and, um, you know, her incarceration for, uh, was it 16 months back in the seventies? Yeah. Her incarceration during this, the civil rights movement, um, opened her eyes to conditions and how our prison systems work, uh, or for lack of a better phrase, don't work or aren't working. in the best interest of citizens and how we can better rehabilitate, not rehabilitate, how we can better serve those who have been, you know, run afoul of society and are now part of the justice-involved community. And there are challenges. There's a lot of, there's a number of challenges. There's economic challenges, there's physical challenges, there's mental, you know, mental health challenges. And so all of those things were up and out for discussion there at the Indianapolis Urban League this morning. And again, I want to thank President and CEO Tony Mason for inviting me to be a part of that. I want to thank Tony Mason and the entire Urban League for allowing me to sit next to and have a fireside chat, so to speak, with Angela Davis. I mean, I don't I don't know how that happened, but I'm glad it did because, you know, that was just, yeah.
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Speaker 10: Angela Davis is quite a figure. She is in the civil rights movement, or Dr. Brown would say the freedom movement. Of course, she was affiliated with the Communist Party. And that wasn't such a bad thing back then because people wanted freedom no matter how they got it. And she was formerly a professor at the– this is Southern California. She was a professor over there. And she's been through quite a lot, but she's never bitten her tongue. And I read here where she was scheduled to speak. at Butler University in Mirror Indy, in Mirror Indy's report. She was scheduled to speak there, but it was abruptly canceled. She was scheduled in 2021 to speak at Butler, a virtual event organized by its student government association. This was even virtually, but it was canceled three days before it was set to take place. Some students claimed censorship, but university officials said, It was policies for booking outside speakers were not followed. But obviously, because of her stature and because of her controversy and the controversy that has followed Angela Davis throughout her career as not only an organizer but a protester, she has been one of the icons of the civil rights movement. No matter what you think of her views, she has always worked to better conditions. for people, you know, such as what the discussion was today, you know, the formerly incarcerated getting out. And I think that was a great thing to put on the, you know, put to the fore to talk about, a subject to talk about is because what do they do once they get out? How does a society help them to reintegrate into the uh you know into into our our our society into the civilization to be productive citizens to be able to take care of their families do they have a mark on them for life and that's probably uh one of the points that she was making and you know it says.
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Speaker 9: Here in the mirror ending oh go ahead go ahead and mirror indy.
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Speaker 10: Well in the mirror any story says uh beyond the record is um The program, I guess they were trying to.
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Speaker 9: That was the theme of today's program.
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Speaker 10: It says it will examine how incarceration affects mental health, employment, and long-term stability. And that's what I was talking about, Tina. Maybe that's what you were going to comment on. Things like driver's licenses, being able to get housing, being able to get a decent livable wage job. So that's an excellent topic. So I wasn't there. It was a great event. I know, you know, it would have been nice to be there, but you were. And so you've got the firsthand knowledge.
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Speaker 11: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: And, you know, her message and messaging these days is far more, is far wider than that. I mean, she talks about communities needing to come together and to embrace, you know, all of our differences. She talked about how we need to stop giving so much power to the powers that be because we have our own power to shape our own lives and to be more involved. There was a heavy emphasis during the entire program on voting and voter registration. And there were people there who were helping folks register to vote if they weren't already. But her message was, you know, I surprisingly I don't want to say surprisingly mainstream, James. It was really. Yeah, it was just surprisingly mainstream. It's more or less kind of what we hear, you know, each and every day. Like you say, her political, you know, her views are her own. And she's I think she said in one interview, you know, she's no longer. a member of what it's CPUSA. Yeah, a company that's part of CPUSA.
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Speaker 10: And I want to be clear. I'm not saying that her views are the same. She has evolved over the years. I'm not saying that her views are the same as they were then. What I'm saying is exactly what we're saying, is we have the power to change our own lives. We have the power through the vote You know, people don't understand. We had a caller on Wednesday. She was like, you know, I got children. And I think, you know, she came up as Eric put her name is just the letter J. It's probably something else. I think I know what it is. But anyway, she was like, I got these young adult children, and they're not voting. It's because they're ignorant of the fact that they can change their own lives collectively. They can empower themselves collectively because that's how our system works. And that is not what you would have in most countries. In a lot of countries, you can't participate in the government that governs you. Angela Davis is great. Do not think that I'm criticizing her.
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Speaker 4: No.
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Speaker 10: Let me be clear. I think she and even with those views, she stood up when nobody else would or few would. And she has to be, I think, you know, lifted up.
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Speaker 9: She was the poster child for freeing political prisoners back in during the civil rights movement because she. along with a number of others, were held as political prisoners. I mean, she was acquitted by an all-white jury of all charges pertaining to that. It was murder, weapons, and it was just a whole bunch of stuff. And she was exonerated, fully acquitted by a jury, again, an all-white jury, and was able to go forth and continue the work that she still does to this day. She is Professor Emerita. at University of California, Santa Cruz, where, and then she, you know, is heavily involved in her lecture tour, where she's encouraging people to, you know, use your power, use your voice.
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Speaker 2: She is on Time's list of the 100 most influential people in the world. That was as of 2020, and awarded an honorary doctorate in letters from the University of Cambridge.
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Speaker 4: She.
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Speaker 9: I believe she received her, she's gotten honorary doctorates and then, of course, received her doctorate. Yeah, studies overseas or something. But the thing was, it was so uplifting. It was so refreshing. It was so good to see somebody of a national stature who has been through everything that she has and back. You know, there was the old saying, and been through hell and back, but yet and still keeps that, you know, keeps hope alive, as Jesse would say. keep hope alive. So it was a very hopeful, very positive message that messages that she portrayed and shared with the with the audiences today. So we may have some of her sound. I don't know if Chase is working on it. Yeah, that's what he was saying when he came in. And you can hear for yourself, you know, some of the things she was saying. But overall, the tone was was positive. People were when I got there. to go in and to prepare for my part of the program. I'm not kidding. The lines were all the way. They were two blocks long.
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Speaker 11: Oh, wow.
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Speaker 6: Yes.
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Speaker 9: And I spoke with someone who does our show, Dr. Hayes, Dr. Denise Hayes, psychologist Dr. Denise Hayes. She had been there since 730 in the morning. And, you know, yes.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: People want to hear. People wanted to know. And I just couldn't believe my eyes when I got there. I'm like, my goodness. Because when registration was opened, it filled up so quickly they had to cut it off.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 9: Because, you know, the center, you know, the theater below and the balcony, you could only hold so many people. But, you know, when you arrive to a place. And so that was also encouraging because Indianapolis can show up. Indianapolis can show out. Indianapolis does care about each other, about our community, about voting, about the city does care.
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Speaker 8: That's good.
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Speaker 9: That was fantastic. The mayor was there, Mayor Joe Hoxton. He was on the front row and did not move. He stayed from start to finish. And he too was one that when she finished stood and gave her a standing ovation. She got a couple of them. The mayor of the city of Indianapolis was there, and it wasn't for show. He didn't get up and make a speech or anything. In fact, he was just pointed to as one of the many special guests that were there. There was a young woman that we had on the show once a few years ago, Michelle Jones, who had been incarcerated for a number of years, but While she was there, wrote a book, got her PhD. No, she was about to get her PhD. And I remember we talked to her down at the MS building. She was there. And, you know, an example of, you know, what can happen when people take their, you know, take the initiative and say, hey, I want better, even though these walls, I'm inside these walls. And I mean, she's got her PhD now. The other people, And these were, I think these were special guests of Dr.
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Speaker 3: Davis.
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Speaker 9: The family of Herman Whitfield, remember him? The man who was having a mental health crisis who was shot and killed by police. They're still working through the court system, so they couldn't really say a whole lot. But his mother and father were both there as well in support of Angela Davis. And her thing, she says, she's labeled an abolitionist, you know, regarding police policing and reform. And she said, what I really am talking about and what we talk about is find a better way. And what she said there at the Walker wasn't anything that hasn't been said on this show over the last, I don't know how, police have no, police should not be answering mental health runs. She said that. She said there should be no, you know, police are not trained in mental health, you know, crises and mental health runs, and therefore should not be answering those. You know, that was one of the things that she talked about as well. And she was happy to point out the support that she was getting from the family of Herman Whitfield III, which also, like I said, they're working their way through the court system as well. So, All in all, very enlightening, very eye-opening, and pretty much most of what we talk about here every day or have been talking about for years.
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Speaker 10: That's what I said. I mean, that's what we're saying, that we have the power ourselves to do it, and we've said that over and over. And I want to say this one thing about Angela Davis, okay, because I lived when she lived. When she was getting that, look, she was one of the most, By the government of the United States, be it Democrat or Republican, she was one of the most, I think, feared and really messed with or somebody who was agitated with by the government. She was one of the most people who were feared by the government, along with Dr. Martin Luther King and others.
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Speaker 5: In the country.
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Speaker 10: Angela Davis. was one of the people that probably on the FBI's, what I read somewhere that she was on once on the FBI's.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, FBI's most wanted list, the first, probably the first woman on the FBI's most wanted list. Yeah.
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Speaker 10: I mean, she was just hated by the government that was in place. So that's the kind of background that she has. She has always stood up for the people. But you're right. We have those tools. We've been saying it for I don't know how long that the people have the Your power, even people who are in the judicial system, if they're not incarcerated in prison or in jail, or if they're in jail and they haven't been sentenced, as I understand it, they can vote. They can still vote if they're in the criminal justice system. And I don't believe they're, correct me if I'm wrong, their voting rights are taken away. If they have completed sentence and they're back out, they can still vote. So they have the power, talking about the criminal justice system, to help empower themselves.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, indeed. 317-480-1310, 317-480-1310. We're a little late getting to a break, so let's go to the break. And then when we come back, we'll take some phone calls. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 1: Let's get back to the conversation. It's Community Connection with Tina Cosby from the Praise Indy Indigo Studios on Praise AM 1310, 95.1 FM.
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Speaker 9: And we are back with Community Connection. And again, I was just a bit tardy today because participating in a really uplifting event put on by the Indianapolis Urban League. And I want to say congratulations again to Tony Mason and the Urban League for tackling you know, so many subject areas just year round. And they do it brilliantly. They do it brilliantly. And so, again, thank you for including me in this morning's program. It was amazing.
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Speaker 12: 317-480-1310, 317-480-1310.
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Speaker 9: Eric Garns and James Patterson here today. Lines are open for whatever may be on your mind. Let's go to the phone lines. Estella, is that correct?
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Speaker 5: Hi, how are you?
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Speaker 9: I'm well. How are you?
00:29:39
Speaker 5: Great. Thanks for another well-informed show that you all did so well with.
00:29:46
Speaker 9: Thank you.
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Speaker 5: And I remember Angela Davis back in the day.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: Well, it was she she riled up Richard Nixon and J. Edgar Hoover. So, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Take take that one for.
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Speaker 5: I remember. Yeah.
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Speaker 10: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: She had those two riled up. But, you know, anybody, you know, the black people standing up for themselves during the day.
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Speaker 10: Yes, yes.
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Speaker 9: Riled up everybody.
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Speaker 5: I remember her big afro.
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Speaker 11: Uh-huh.
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Speaker 9: Well, it's a more subdued... It's not the big killer fro, but it's... Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Yes, yes.
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Speaker 9: Gone white.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, but you're right. I just saw a picture of her in today's... You know, today's... In today's date. And she.
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Speaker 10: She looks stunning still. 82 years old.
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Speaker 9: Doesn't look 82. I don't know what 82 looks like.
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Speaker 10: I don't know where they got that from.
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Speaker 9: I don't know what 82 looks like, but it ain't what she is. So what's going on? What's going on still?
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Speaker 5: Okay. I, first of all, checked my voter registration status for that of mine and my husband's.
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Speaker 13: And we are active.
00:31:09
Speaker 5: I listened to what you said the other day, and I followed through. And then while I was on the website, I decided to print out what's on the ballot. And do you have any information... about supporting or not supporting the proposed ratifications to the state constitution. And those proposals, are you familiar with them?
00:31:35
Speaker 9: You know, somebody asked me that while I was down there today at the Urban League event. And is it question one? Question one and question two.
00:31:48
Speaker 5: Yeah, question one. I have it in front of me if you have time for me to read it.
00:31:52
Speaker 9: Yeah, go ahead and read it.
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Speaker 5: Okay, question one. Public question one. Currently, under the Constitution of the state of Indiana, a person charged with murder or treason is not entitled to be released on bail if the proof is evident or the presumption strong. Shall the Constitution of the state of Indiana be amended to provide that a person charged with an offense other than murder or treason is not entitled to bail if the proof is evident or the presumption strong, and two, the state proved by clear and convincing evidence that no release conditions will be reasonably, will reasonably protect the safety of any other person or the community. And in parentheses it says this question concerns Article 1, Section 17 of the Constitution of the State of Indiana.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, well, that's a bunch of hooey. First of all, I don't think it's constitutional. You know, based upon the Bill of Rights, you know, we are to be granted bail only with the exception of murder or, you know, for some national security reason. Right. People, based upon the Constitution, have the right to a bond, a bail, to be released before trial. Unless, you know, there are clear reasons why there might be a danger to the community in those cases. And still then, the lawyers can continue, the defense lawyers can continue to ask why and seek bail because the Constitution guarantees it. And this statement that you made, I was trying to write it down as you were talking, Estella. It said that if proof is evident and the presumption.
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Speaker 7: Yes.
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Speaker 10: Strong.
00:33:59
Speaker 6: Yes.
00:33:59
Speaker 10: Well, you know, that's presumptuous.
00:34:02
Speaker 6: It is.
00:34:03
Speaker 5: Exactly. That's a red flag for me.
00:34:06
Speaker 7: Yeah.
00:34:06
Speaker 9: And the other red flag for me was clear and convincing. There has never been a piece of legislation. that clear and convincing because even that is subjective and can be argued in court. So it's flawed on its face as far as I'm concerned.
00:34:22
Speaker 10: I agree.
00:34:23
Speaker 5: I agree.
00:34:24
Speaker 10: And people should vote no.
00:34:26
Speaker 9: On question one, in my view.
00:34:29
Speaker 10: Undoubtedly, no. Question one, no.
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Speaker 5: That's what I was calling. I was wondering if you were allowed to tell me that answer or not. Okay, question two. Shall the Constitution of the state of Indiana be amended to permit the judge of a city or town court to reside in, number one, the county in which the court is located, or two, the bordering county closest to the city or town in which the court is located?
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Speaker 9: More stuff.
00:35:07
Speaker 5: The defense concerns Article 6, Section 6 of the Constitution of the state of Indiana.
00:35:14
Speaker 9: More bending of the rules. Yeah, why do they need that? Yeah, why do they need that?
00:35:19
Speaker 5: Why would they not reside in the first place?
00:35:21
Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly. You need to be where you are, you know. But just inching up to it, you know, really close.
00:35:28
Speaker 3: Come on.
00:35:29
Speaker 9: Oh, my goodness. I can't believe this made it to the ballot.
00:35:33
Speaker 5: Now, there are a lot of judges that are listed here, the retention of these in several different districts. So have you looked at any of those?
00:35:46
Speaker 9: No, but there's a place on vote.indy.gov, I do believe, that has a sample ballot page. So I'm going to have to look it over. But, no, I haven't looked at any of the— no, I haven't.
00:35:59
Speaker 5: And then the people need to know what these positions are that these people have. Yes. Because you could have different people with different— issues and concerns that are different than yours that are contrary to what the law says, and they could be stacked on the courts and would not, it would be detrimental to someone who is really innocent.
00:36:25
Speaker 10: Yeah, you're right.
00:36:25
Speaker 9: I would agree.
00:36:26
Speaker 10: People need to become much more familiar with those judges.
00:36:29
Speaker 9: Yeah, we're going to put something together, a discussion. It might even be a two-day discussion on just that. Got a really good email the other day from Ophelia Wellington, probably director emerita of Freetown Village, certainly the founder and artistic director and all that. And she was saying pretty much the same thing, you know, suggesting. And she said, the teacher in me thinks that perhaps it would be a good idea to have somebody come on and explain what all the roles are, what they do. and how that impacts and affects others. And I told her that was a great email. I was glad she sent it. And I was already working on something similar to that, but I think I might expand it a little. But yeah, we'll get to it. Plus, our weekly visits with, my goodness, Julia Vaughn. Julia Vaughn. I was thinking Vaughn.
00:37:26
Speaker 5: And also, what are their voting records currently? You know, going back for however long they have been on the bench. Well, thank you very much. You were very helpful.
00:37:39
Speaker 10: Yeah, but we know, Stella, thank you, because questions one and two, you know, no.
00:37:48
Speaker 9: They're silly. There's a bunch of.
00:37:51
Speaker 11: Anyway.
00:37:55
Speaker 9: Thank you. All right.
00:37:56
Speaker 13: Well, thank you.
00:37:57
Speaker 5: Continue to do a fantastic job.
00:37:59
Speaker 9: We appreciate it. We appreciate it. Thank you.
00:38:07
Speaker 8: 317-480-1310.
00:38:07
Speaker 9: 317-480-1310. Old dude, haven't talked to you for a while. How you doing?
00:38:11
Speaker 7: Oh, I'm doing just fancy.
00:38:13
Speaker 10: I woke up this morning in a state of shock.
00:38:18
Speaker 9: State of shock? What happened? What happened?
00:38:20
Speaker 10: Hey, you guys got a great program. Y'all very informative. Now, here's a couple of things that's been bothering my mind. I'll throw one out there real quick. Okay, we've got all of these young guys that are going to these colleges to be athletes because we know that they're not academically up there. So they go in here.
00:38:40
Speaker 9: You can't say that at all.
00:38:43
Speaker 7: Well, you know, as an old guy, I can throw that out there. But, you know, But, you know, we got all these.
00:38:52
Speaker 10: Athletes that are going to college and trying to make something of themselves. They got these used-to-be girlfriends or relationships or whatever. And as soon as these young men get ready to go to the NBA or the NFL, all of a sudden, these girls from way back when– besides the pop-up with the R-word, you know, that R-word, and it destroys these young athletes' marketability, knocks them down from the first round to the third fifth, or whatever. Is there somewhere along the lines where these college players, now that they're allowed to make money, is there some way these colleges can put together a little group or committee to educate these young men on the proposed alleged thing that they said these guys are doing. Because I was in shock when I woke up and found out that one of my favorite players that used to be with Warren Central has been nailed for a case over a year ago. And I don't want to throw his name out there, but it's all over the place. And I was shocked because they said that he turned himself in. He reported this thing to the police himself.
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Speaker 7: And now the girl comes back And she reports it to the school many, many days a week afterwards, you know. And now he's being spread all over the place, which is going to kill his marketability when the draft comes up. Because, I mean, he was pretty high on the scouting list as a defensive player, which meant his draft marketability was going to be way up there. And now I wake up this morning and I'm just shattered because I don't understand this. We've got these guys being nailed for that, and then they come back two or three years later after they've been smeared all over the paper, they come back and they find out they didn't do it. The girls recant their stories and all that.
00:41:01
Speaker 13: This is ridiculous.
00:41:03
Speaker 10: I listen to you guys because y'all are fantastic. I listen to you.
00:41:07
Speaker 9: There should be. And, you know, the good programs do school their athletes in terms of, dangerous you know watch out for this watch out for that um good schools protect them they put you know sort of a protective a hedge around them if you will um and so the good ones though now i'm not saying that i i don't know i this is the first i've heard of what you know what old dude was just saying i don't know any of the details about any of it or what have you but um More and more, as more and more as these cases and these situations come to light, I think that there are schools and institutions that are taking steps to protect their athletes with, you know, in terms of educating them, giving them information, you know, letting them know what their expectations are and so on and so forth. But as far as draft stock rising or falling or what have you, I mean.
00:42:09
Speaker 9: It happens. I mean, just today, one of the greats in, I don't know if he's a Hall of Famer, Tony Romo used to be with the Dallas Cowboys.
00:42:20
Speaker 6: Your quarterback.
00:42:21
Speaker 9: Your quarterback, yeah. He's passed playing days, but he had a career in broadcasting and was probably pretty good. But this, you know, he was arrested for DUI and they cut ties with him.
00:42:35
Speaker 10: Um, you know, so I was going to say the same thing.
00:42:39
Speaker 9: Certain things.
00:42:40
Speaker 10: Yeah.
00:42:41
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:42:41
Speaker 9: Go ahead.
00:42:42
Speaker 10: No, you go ahead.
00:42:43
Speaker 9: No, I'm just saying certain, you know, the, sometimes there's, there's just things that, that happen. Sometimes there are things that could be prevented. Uh, and so, uh, You know, but Romo probably should have had better judgment than perhaps a high school. You would think he would have had better having been through all of that and everything would have had, you know, better judgment. But, you know, you try to do your best. But, you know, sometimes things happen and slip through the cracks.
00:43:08
Speaker 1: I guess.
00:43:09
Speaker 9: I don't know. I want to know more about this situation old dude was talking about, though.
00:43:14
Speaker 10: Well, yeah, look at that. Look, for example, not just Romo, but the guy that the broadcaster here in Indianapolis.
00:43:20
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, that was.
00:43:21
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:43:23
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, he knew better too, but he was drunk, and you do stupid things like that when you're inebriated. But I was going to say the same thing you did about the schools and programs and just– not just the schools, but in people's– the athletes' inner circles, their parents, their friends, their spiritual leaders, their pastors. whatever, need to be talking to them and telling them this is what can happen. So it comes down to behavior. It comes down to education. It comes down to knowledge. You've got to know what your value will be, perhaps, if you're really, really good in your athletic field. two or three years down the road, they're even, they're starting to, they're, they're paying. They're not starting. They're paying college athletes now. So you can start making money immediately. So you have got to know what your boundaries are. And these are in all relations and that's getting control of your, you know, of your body, getting control of your, your emotions, getting control of your feelings. That's, that's what it boils down to. And people, schools, especially, I think schools have a, they, they, like you said, all of them don't do it, but I think they have, a responsibility to cocoon these people, to at least scold them, these athletes, and what can happen.
00:44:47
Speaker 9: You know, there's a woman who is the mother of professional athlete Jaden Daniels from the Washington Commanders. And she has taken a lot of heat about her smothering of her son and how overly, you know, overtly protective she is of him. And so we we have to they have to understand that these women throw them. So, you know, it's not just it's not just the men, you know, these women is groupies in general. OK, groupies in general. You got to watch out for the groupies because they they see they smell blood.
00:45:24
Speaker 7: In the water.
00:45:25
Speaker 9: Yeah, they see they know what.
00:45:27
Speaker 10: They're looking for.
00:45:27
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:45:28
Speaker 9: They know your value better than you do sometimes. And so you have to be really careful of the groupies. So there's a lot. There's a lot to it. There's a lot that goes to and goes with being a professional athlete, a college athlete, a high school athlete. There's a whole lot to it. I wish there weren't, but, you know, because it used to be play, you know, and enjoy yourself. But not so much. Not so much anymore. So a lot of landscape to navigate there. A lot of land.
00:45:57
Speaker 7: Yeah.
00:46:00
Speaker 9: 317-480-1310. Adria? Is that Adria or Adria? Hello?
00:46:06
Speaker 2: Just a second here, Tia.
00:46:07
Speaker 7: I'm sorry.
00:46:07
Speaker 9: Okay, I'm sorry.
00:46:08
Speaker 3: Okay, there we go.
00:46:09
Speaker 6: Adria.
00:46:10
Speaker 2: It's Adria.
00:46:10
Speaker 9: Adria, okay. Are you there?
00:46:13
Speaker 7: Yes.
00:46:13
Speaker 13: Can you hear me?
00:46:14
Speaker 9: Yes, I can hear you.
00:46:15
Speaker 7: How are you?
00:46:15
Speaker 13: I just wanted to make, how are you? How's James and Eric?
00:46:19
Speaker 10: I'm good, Adria. I just wanted to.
00:46:21
Speaker 13: Make a comment about Angela Davis. I worked at IU Northwest for 27 years in the library. It afforded me meeting people like Angela Davis. What I thought was fantastic about meeting her, I had a chance to interview her. And I'm a person of very many words. I'm not a journalist. I wasn't any of that. But I actually asked her, What got her involved in the movement? And she said to me like this, I didn't beat the movement.
00:47:01
Speaker 11: Oh, wow.
00:47:04
Speaker 9: We were losing you.
00:47:06
Speaker 14: Yeah.
00:47:07
Speaker 10: Are you in a tunnel or something?
00:47:10
Speaker 13: No, it's my phone. It was another call coming in, and I had to get rid of it. But, yeah, it was phenomenal to me that she made the statement. I didn't pick the movement. The movement picked me. And because of her incarceration as a woman, as James said, she was one of the first women on the FBI most wanted list. And because of her incarceration is why she started doing prison ministry. That's always been a phenomenal thing. for her because of her own personal experience.
00:47:45
Speaker 9: It's all rooted in that, yeah.
00:47:47
Speaker 13: Being a Black Panther. She was a Black Panther.
00:47:51
Speaker 9: For a minute, yeah.
00:47:52
Speaker 13: A lot of people don't know that because they still don't understand that the Black Panther movement was not about violence. It was about Operation Feeding the Children.
00:48:05
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:48:05
Speaker 13: Teaching them their history. All of these things.
00:48:10
Speaker 13: You know, most of the people, like I'm close to Gary Chicago, Bobby Rush, he was part of the Panther movement.
00:48:19
Speaker 10: He became a congressperson from Illinois. Exactly, exactly.
00:48:23
Speaker 13: So I just wanted to make the comment, I was thankful and grateful that I was afforded to meet people like Angela Davis. I also met and talked to Dick Gregory before he died.
00:48:35
Speaker 10: So I was very fortunate to meet people.
00:48:38
Speaker 13: Yes, that were very much into the movement of our people. And somewhere we, and I say we, we collectively dropped the ball on pushing, pushing our younger people to understand these things. They were not given. Somebody sacrificed for you to get there.
00:48:57
Speaker 9: That's right.
00:48:59
Speaker 10: Absolutely.
00:49:00
Speaker 13: And what the other guy was speaking about, and I'm going to let you guys go, the one talking about the athletes, Oprah Winfrey's boyfriend Stedman Graham he had a program for athletes because he was an athlete so if people want to know contact him because he had a movement of getting with young athletes telling them the proper conduct what to do what not to deal with and he wrote several books so you may want if he still does that come around and talk to the young people because he was an athlete himself. So he knows about that exposure.
00:49:39
Speaker 10: So you guys, thank you very much for.
00:49:42
Speaker 13: Taking my call. Have a wonderful, wonderful weekend.
00:49:45
Speaker 7: All right.
00:49:46
Speaker 9: You too. Thank you very much.
00:49:47
Speaker 7: Yeah.
00:49:47
Speaker 9: Good points. Very good call. Yeah. Indeed.
00:49:50
Speaker 7: 317-480-1310.
00:49:50
Speaker 5: 317-480-1310.
00:49:51
Speaker 9: I think before we go back to the phone lines, because we got a couple, we got, yeah, we got a couple more. Let's go ahead and get this break in, and then when we come right back, we'll go back to the phone line. So if you're on the phone, on hold, stay right there. We're coming to you.
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00:50:34
Speaker 9: And we are back heading into our second hour. We're going to go back to the phone lines. James Patterson and Eric Garns here with us.
00:50:41
Speaker 12: 317-480-1310.
00:50:41
Speaker 9: Jeff, go ahead. How are you?
00:50:47
Speaker 7: Hey, happy Friday, everybody.
00:50:48
Speaker 9: Happy Friday.
00:50:50
Speaker 10: Happy Friday. You know, about.
00:50:51
Speaker 2: Happy Friday.
00:50:52
Speaker 8: I think it was in 2000, yes, it was in 2019 or 2020, during the whole Black Lives Matter movement, I had the honor and the privilege to hear Dr. Angela Davis speak.
00:51:08
Speaker 7: Hello?
00:51:08
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
00:51:09
Speaker 13: Mm-hmm.
00:51:10
Speaker 8: Yeah, and it was just, I tell you, being a prince of an icon, a historical.
00:51:17
Speaker 7: Figure, historical.
00:51:20
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:51:21
Speaker 8: I mean, it was just, and she's so down to earth and so personable, you know, and. You know, and a wealth of knowledge and a life experience. So, yeah, it was just an honor just to be in her presence. So, we just, you know, I'm looking at history right now. When I saw her, I was looking at actual history.
00:51:40
Speaker 7: Yeah.
00:51:41
Speaker 8: And so, yeah, I mean, we need some more Angela Davis. We need some more Stokely Carmichaels. We need some more Dr. Kings and Malcolm Xs because these are the people that paved.
00:51:51
Speaker 7: The way for us.
00:51:52
Speaker 3: And, you know.
00:51:53
Speaker 8: So many of us are just, you know, don't have an idea how important these individuals were. You know, you had to be pretty important for J. Edgar Hoover to come after you.
00:52:05
Speaker 10: So, yeah.
00:52:07
Speaker 9: Yeah, to capture his attention because he, yeah.
00:52:11
Speaker 6: Yeah, right.
00:52:12
Speaker 8: I mean, I always find it kind of ironic, James, why the Black Panther were crushed and the Ku Klux Klan was allowed to exist.
00:52:19
Speaker 10: You know, just who would have thought?
00:52:21
Speaker 9: Well, you know, I think that answers itself.
00:52:24
Speaker 10: Yeah, and I'm glad you brought that up, Jeff, because Andrea was right on point to call it right, who called right before you. I don't know how long you've been holding, but who was on right before you. She talked about how the Panthers, see, because I lived in Northern Illinois, and I know what they did. They took up arms, but it was for defense. It was for defense, Jeff. What they were doing was they had a breakfast program for the children.
00:52:48
Speaker 12: That was the main thing.
00:52:51
Speaker 10: And they taught them about history because the schools wouldn't teach black history.
00:52:55
Speaker 9: That's what the Black Panthers taught them.
00:52:56
Speaker 2: That's awesome, man.
00:52:58
Speaker 8: It does, doesn't it? There was this writer years ago. He wanted to join the Black Panthers.
00:53:04
Speaker 10: He said, I want to join.
00:53:07
Speaker 8: And he said, okay, fine. Well, you can join. And they gave him a bunch of books. And he says, you know, Where's my weapons at? Oh, we just gave them to you.
00:53:24
Speaker 10: That's good.
00:53:24
Speaker 7: Yeah, we just gave you, yeah, we just, yeah.
00:53:27
Speaker 8: We gave you Franz Fanon and John Henry Clark, Van Serteman and all that, you know, so, and, you know, as far as that last caller before the last one came out, you know, I tried to paint everybody with a broad brush, but I know some young black men who are athletes and, And they're going to school to become engineers, scientists, you know, and educators. So all of them ain't there just for the, you know, just for the rides. You know, some of them are really trying to make some goals, do some great things with their lives and everything. But just to say they're there for the girls and whatnot. Hell, you just had a bunch of Cornell University guys sexually assaulted woman.
00:54:10
Speaker 10: Yeah.
00:54:11
Speaker 9: But I think what he was saying was that he wasn't saying he was there for the party. I think he was saying what protections can be offered to these young people so that they don't fall into these traps that a lot of these groupies are out there setting for them. You know, altering reality, so to speak, or lying on them. I don't know.
00:54:32
Speaker 13: But.
00:54:33
Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah. That and again, like I said, that some schools have taken the initiative and are going forward and creating programs and and, you know, letting these kids know that, you know, what's out there and that their targets more so than.
00:54:50
Speaker 8: Oh, absolutely. And they got to be educated about that. But with the impression I got, you know, like some of these guys ain't very bright at one for their athletic skills.
00:54:58
Speaker 9: Well, I didn't agree with that.
00:55:02
Speaker 10: I don't think he was saying that myself.
00:55:04
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, because I know two young men right now who are in college and two well-raised, brilliant young men. And, you know, I mean, because, hey, sports won't take you so far, but your education will take you a lot further. So I'm just saying that, you know, there's some young men and women out there who are– doing some great things realized. And sports is just a vehicle. It's just a vehicle. You know, you can't play in the NFL and NBA all your life. And I think a lot of them know that.
00:55:39
Speaker 7: But yeah. Yeah.
00:55:40
Speaker 9: You know, one of the best examples that I can see of that, the fevers, Kelsey Mitchell, she talks about essentially when the air goes out, basketball is not going to be around forever. She's working on her PhD. She may be the only person in that league to actively be a player and a student, a doctoral student at the same time, but she has goals and aspirations beyond the courts. She loves the game, but it's like, hey, there's more to it. And there was another, I think he was, he's gone on now, but he was famous. I saw a 60 Minutes piece on him. John Thompson, not the younger, but the elder, that was head coach at Georgetown and he had in his office a basketball but it had no air in it and he said that's the first thing he shows his recruits when they come in or remind current players when they're in that at some point in time one day the air is going to go out of this basketball what are your plans what are you going to do so always be thinking ahead and so I think a lot more are taking that approach to the young people to help them understand that your entire life has been geared toward getting to X, Y, and Z, but you're going to have a life beyond that. And that's why I always admire the coaches that had really, really high graduation rates for their students because all of them were never going to, you're never going to have a team of 12 or football team 22 students that are going to the NFL or the NBA. You're just not. And to make sure that everybody got something out of the experience that they could take with them and that nobody could take away from them, I think was just so very admirable. But it's a little bit harder to do in today's environment with the transfer portals and all kinds of other things. But it was admirable at the time.
00:57:45
Speaker 8: Well, you know, maybe I told the story a little bit wrong, but the individual thought by joining the Panthers, they were going to give him a gun and whatnot. And that's what he was expecting. And the Panthers said, hey, here's some, these are your weapons right here, right here. You know, and, you know, and James, you know, being a communist is not the worst thing in the world. I mean, you know what I mean? So, I mean, yeah, communism has its issues, a noble concept, but, you know, is it perfect?
00:58:14
Speaker 5: No.
00:58:17
Speaker 10: No, I didn't say there was anything– I didn't say anything. We were talking about Angela Davidson, what she was. She has evolved like 10 times over before then. But we have the right, as I was saying, to change and guide our own destiny.
00:58:36
Speaker 7: Through the vote.
00:58:38
Speaker 10: Well, if we look at– And those are communist countries, which our president rolled the red carpet out for. His best friends are communists and dictators and authoritarian leaders. I don't want that system here. There are some good aspects to communism and socialism. We're part of socialism. We've got Social Security. We've got Medicaid. We've got Medicare. We have parts. But we're not totally in that. system. And I'm not against that. But I'm saying Angela Davis is not that now. That's what I.
00:59:15
Speaker 9: Well, you know, look at the greats who had evolved.
00:59:19
Speaker 7: Dr.
00:59:20
Speaker 9: King evolved. Malcolm X evolved. You know, you say Angela Davis evolved. You know, but as your world.
00:59:29
Speaker 9: The further you go into these movements and things of this nature, the more you see it's bigger than certain viewpoints maybe previously held.
00:59:39
Speaker 10: I don't know.
00:59:40
Speaker 9: But they all started taking on a more global view, more world view. Yeah. Speaking of Angela Day, did Chase leave us anything?
00:59:49
Speaker 2: Yes, I've got a clip here that we could play if you'd like.
00:59:53
Speaker 9: Yeah, let's listen to some of what we talked about this morning.
00:59:56
Speaker 2: Here it is.
00:59:57
Speaker 3: What is wrong with you?
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Speaker 4: But of course, now he totally understands that.
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Speaker 15: What we're talking about is creating new institutions.
01:00:15
Speaker 4: That will make the prison obsolete.
01:00:19
Speaker 15: Now why is it that so many people are in prison in the first place?
01:00:23
Speaker 16: So it's... So, you asked me a question, and I'll say that back in those days, I said, and we were all saying, that we're doing work.
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Speaker 3: That we hope resonates after we're gone.
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Speaker 15: And we never expected that abolition would even be taken up in regular public discourse during our lifetime. We thought we were doing work that would allow others decades from now to carry on.
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Speaker 4: And even though I might disagree with what counts as abolition for a lot of people, a lot of people are aware of it and take it seriously now.
01:01:19
Speaker 9: Are there several definitions of abolition?
01:01:23
Speaker 3: Well.
01:01:26
Speaker 2: Well, to pick up another clip on that, that's about a minute 28 there, and it just stops there. I'll have to see if I can find where she answered that for you.
01:01:35
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's fine.
01:01:36
Speaker 10: We've heard her views there.
01:01:38
Speaker 9: Yeah, and again, when she talks about abolition, she makes a good point. It's not about tearing down. It's about building up and kind of replacing because the prisons are failing, and they're not doing what they were put in place or what the– I guess the verbiage around them says that they do. They don't reform. There's no reform in terms of how being in prison is. He used to call them reformatories and things of that nature. Her point is replace these current institutions with new ones that do what they're supposed to do. That is what she was saying she meant by abolition in terms of the prisons.
01:02:21
Speaker 8: Absolutely.
01:02:22
Speaker 10: Just a new system. And the prisons do not do what in Indiana, particularly because we live here, what the state constitution says they do, and that is to rehab, to reform. That should be the main goal. Some of them, quite honestly, because I've been in the prison, some folks in there don't want to be reformed. But for those who do, they could do a much better job.
01:02:51
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
01:02:52
Speaker 9: But it's so inherently institutionalized now with funding, money, privatization. There's so many. She's got a good point. Bring it, you know, just replace it. Replace it with something that more fits what the model is supposed to be. What they're supposed to do.
01:03:12
Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: So, yeah, that was one of them. The other thing, you know, kind of along the lines of what we were talking about, This is the final weekend to register to vote in the state of Indiana. This is the last weekend to do that. The deadline is Monday, October 5th. It's the last day for voter registration. The next day, Tuesday, October 6th, is the first day for early voting. Here in Indianapolis and Marion County, The location, biggest county in the state, most populated county in the state. We got one location. Anyway, but others are added on in another week or two. But the first location, let's put it that way, not the only, but the very first location where you can go and vote early is the city county building, downtown 200 East Washington Street, the clerk's office right off Delaware Street. First thing Tuesday morning. as soon as the clerk's office opens, you can go vote early. We can't tell people when to vote. We can't tell people who to vote for or what to vote for. We shouldn't, and we won't, you know, because that's supposed to be your free will. But I will say we strongly encourage, and I'm taking this from a lot of folks that know, national, local, regional, you name it, figures who know it is so much better for all of us. If possible, you can find a way to vote early. If at all possible, find a way to get your vote in there early. It's just good business. It's good business, as they say. A lot of folks, I want to do it on election day. I get that. And I hope you show up. I plan, you know, but Vote early if you can. And that.
01:05:23
Speaker 12: Yeah.
01:05:25
Speaker 10: Yeah.
01:05:27
Speaker 9: Indiana voters dot com. Indiana voters dot com is where you can go to check on your voter registration to make sure you're still there and to make sure you are still active, still active and still there.
01:05:40
Speaker 10: So, yeah. Yeah, we don't tell people what to vote for. However, Estella did bring up this amendment question, question one and question two on the ballot. I got to get one too, Tina, so I can read directly.
01:05:56
Speaker 9: Yeah, I got to look at it, yeah.
01:05:58
Speaker 10: But the Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution– now this question one that she was talking about wants to take away bail– take away the right for people to bond out, you know, if it's not murder, for certain crimes. The Eighth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, however, says excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted. And by the way, we didn't talk about that woman in Tennessee who they tried to execute like two times the other night, and she survived. The first woman who would have been put to death in Tennessee, a horrific crime she was convicted of committing when she was younger, when she was a girl. But here it is that they tried to kill her twice, and she went through excruciating pain, and she was not able– she didn't die. She's still alive. The Tennessee governor is not going to allow those executions anymore. for the rest of the year. We don't know what's going to happen next year, but that's another thing. But I wanted to read the Eighth Amendment. Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishment. So I think the Indiana, whoever put that amendment on, is trying to change the.
01:07:26
Speaker 10: They're trying to change the Constitution of the United States. And also, in the Indiana Constitution... It says that because Amendment 2, let's see, Amendment 2, yeah, says that, you know, they want to be able to move criminal prosecutions across county lines. And Section 13 of, I believe it's Article 1, yeah, Article 1 of the Indiana Constitution, Section 13 says, in all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall have the right to a public trial in by an impartial jury in the county in which the offense, in the county in which, in the county in which the offense shall have been committed to be heard by himself and counsel to demand a nature and cause of the accusation against him and have a copy thereof to meet with witnesses face to face and to have compulsory processes for obtaining witnesses in his favor Victims of crimes, as defined by law, shall have the right to be treated with fairness, dignity, and respect throughout the criminal process, and as defined by law, to be informed of and present during public hearings and to confer with the prosecution to the extent that exercising these rights does not infringe upon the constitutional rights of the accused. Lastly, Section 18 of that Article 1 Indiana Constitution, what you were talking about, the penal code shall not the penal code shall not... be founded on that– what they were talking about, but the penal code shall be founded on the principles of reformation and not of vindictive justice. So that's what they're supposed to do. You were talking about your talk with Angela Davis today. Were you a moderator down there?
01:09:20
Speaker 9: Yes.
01:09:22
Speaker 7: Yeah.
01:09:22
Speaker 10: Well, her her program to reform prisons is right on. They're supposed to follow that in Indiana. The penal code shall not shall be founded on the principles of reformation and not of vindictive justice.
01:09:37
Speaker 13: Yeah.
01:09:39
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:09:40
Speaker 9: So, yeah, like you say, trying to play games with rewording the Constitution to their liking.
01:09:50
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's what they were doing.
01:09:51
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:09:51
Speaker 10: To put it in a nutshell, yeah.
01:09:53
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
01:09:54
Speaker 9: 317-480-1310, 317-480-1310. Samuel L. Jackson, how are you? Hey, what's up, Tina, James, and my main man.
01:10:09
Speaker 5: Co-host.
01:10:11
Speaker 9: My main man.
01:10:15
Speaker 7: How's everybody doing today?
01:10:17
Speaker 9: Doing good.
01:10:19
Speaker 7: Hey, look here. For the last month, I've been talking to a different group of people about voting. One of the group are my military buddies. The other group are my church folks. The other group are my kin folks. And the other group People that never voted before. And one of them is my brother. Never, ever voted in his life. He's 74 years old. I know. And he got friends the same way. So I was talking to him last night. I said, why you never voted? He said, for what? He said, for what? I said, see, that's a problem right there. You don't know for what.
01:11:08
Speaker 8: Good answer.
01:11:13
Speaker 10: Good answer. Good answer, yeah.
01:11:17
Speaker 7: And I'm trying to explain to him, but hold that thought right there. Then I go over here to my military buddies. Okay, my military buddies, most of them are, I say, Democrats, okay? And a few of them are kind of Republicans. Of course, you know, you got both sides. And then I come to my church folks, Lord have mercy. Lord, help us. Because I'm telling you, we don't know what we're doing. We don't. And one of the things that I do know that our elders and counselors and ministers is not teaching why people need to vote and the reason they need to vote. Because you're just telling people, go vote, go vote, go vote. Yeah, what are they voting for? Why are they voting? Okay. And the consequence that you don't do and the consequence I say you do do. Okay. Like we did. That was a consequence.
01:12:19
Speaker 9: That was an outcome as opposed to a consequence. It was an outcome. But consequence to me is a, but yeah, consequence would be if we did, you know, you didn't, then what are you talking about? You have no, you know, if you didn't vote, yeah.
01:12:35
Speaker 10: That's what I'm talking about. What are they saying to you, Brother Samuel L.
01:12:40
Speaker 7: Jackson?
01:12:42
Speaker 10: Samuel Jackson, what are.
01:12:43
Speaker 7: They saying to you about?
01:12:45
Speaker 10: When you talk to them, your church members, your family members, your brother who's 74 who never voted, what are they saying to you about gas prices, the grocery store, health care? What are they saying about that?
01:12:58
Speaker 7: Oh, one of the motherfucking men I'm dead brought that up. And then one of the church members said, you know what? I've been voting Democrats for 40-some years, and I never got a dime on a Democrat.
01:13:11
Speaker 6: Now, hold on.
01:13:12
Speaker 7: Hold your thought there. So this time, I'm going to vote and take a chance on Trump so I can get $ 5, 000 so I can get him to help me offset my bills. That's okay. Hey, man, that's what you want to do, okay? So I was telling him about it.
01:13:30
Speaker 10: Why do you have the bills?
01:13:34
Speaker 9: Why do you need $ 5, 000? Why are your bills so high? You know, make the connection. But anyway.
01:13:43
Speaker 7: Well, and then I was talking to my kinfolk. Hey, you know what it is? They said, I don't care what nobody say. Okay, I've been a Democrat all of my life, and there's about 30 of them or two. I'm going for Trump this time. I'm taking the chance, because I've been going to the casino, but trying to win $ 5, 000, and I ain't won no $ 5, 000 yet, so I'm going to take the chance on Trump. I said, you what? Mm-hmm. I think this is the problem with people, uneducated. That's the problem. We need to educate people why we need to vote, who we need to vote for. And if we don't, this could happen.
01:14:20
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:14:22
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying. What can I say? I gave them all a benefit of the doubt, but one, they're not voting. Never vote before. And I would explain to them, people, I said, look, you guys, you guys got to learn how to vote, okay? Especially my brother. He's 74 years old and you never voted in your life. And I didn't know this until you told me last night. So I would talk to him about voting, you know. He said, well, for what? I ain't never voted. And he said, I'm doing good. And he's doing good. He's doing real good. But the majority of the population is not doing good, George.
01:15:00
Speaker 10: Okay.
01:15:01
Speaker 9: Keep talking. Keep talking, Samuel.
01:15:04
Speaker 8: Thank you for talking to us.
01:15:06
Speaker 9: Keep talking, Sam. We appreciate you.
01:15:08
Speaker 7: I am. All right. I'm not telling you who to vote for. But just get out and vote, okay?
01:15:13
Speaker 9: Indeed, indeed. Thank you.
01:15:14
Speaker 8: Thank you.
01:15:15
Speaker 9: Appreciate it. Let's squeeze one more in before we have to go to the break. Sam, go ahead. How are you?
01:15:22
Speaker 3: Hi.
01:15:23
Speaker 11: You were mentioning about the Black Panthers. Well, I got something to say about that. When I was a little girl, I was walking to school, and they had an office like at 30th and Capitol. I was going to school 36. I was coming home. They were out. There was they were outside. They have like a table outside. And the young man said, young lady, are you going home? I say, yeah, I'm going home to get lunch. And he told me, well, listen, if you know anybody that's not getting getting lunch, they're going home and are hungry. You tell you tell your friend, you tell them, come by here. And we'll be outside. We'll be respectful. We will feed them lunch. Lyndon Johnson took that idea about the lunch for the kids. He got that from the Black Panthers. Number two, talk about being respectful. Then I'm a teenager. I was going over to a friend's house, and she lived on Kenwood, and we were playing records. Uh-oh, it's gotten dark. I got to go around the Capitol. And the lights, you know, was really dark. Two young men came up and said, young lady, why are you out on this street and it's dark? I said, I called my parents and let them know I'm on my way home. I live in Capitol. They said, little sister, we will walk you home. They walked me to my door. I mean, they, I said, okay, here's where I live. They said, no, we're going up here to show respect to your family, your parents. I came to the door, and my parents would look like, who are these people? They said, ma'am, sir, your daughter was walking home, and it's dark. We walked her up here. We're the Black Panthers. We want our little sisters to be safe. And so this is the reason why we are here. And my mother said, what? My mother said, oh, thank you.
01:17:24
Speaker 6: Thank you.
01:17:25
Speaker 11: She called us, yes, but we want our young ladies to be safe. I was like, what? From that point on, I was like, I want to be a black fan. I started having a militant attitude, but I couldn't show it until I got to college. Then once I got to college, I put the fro on it and.
01:17:47
Speaker 9: Said, power to the people.
01:17:50
Speaker 7: Power to the people.
01:17:51
Speaker 11: But yeah, they were put down. No, they were for the people. And guess what? At that time, in those times, They didn't want no black folks to be for black folk in their own communities. They didn't want you to vote. OK, don't vote, black folk. Don't vote. Don't vote. Because Trump said one time, if you vote for me, this will be the only time you'll ever have to vote again. And don't nobody say amen to that. You don't know what it is to be in a communist country. I know someone who went to med school there, and she had a brother that was here at IUPUI. And she told me, she said, when she got to America, she feels like a breath of fresh air. Oh, my God. She went to IUPUI to the campus to visit her brother. People are saying, hi, how you doing? She said, in Russia, they're looking their head down.
01:18:49
Speaker 7: They're like.
01:18:49
Speaker 11: are you scared? She said, oh, gosh, you know, an atheist country? And she said, people don't realize what they got in America. But I thought, guess what the next group of people would be? Oh, he's looking at the The Mexicans. Guess what? You'll be next. If he gets his way, don't vote, y'all.
01:19:12
Speaker 13: Don't vote.
01:19:13
Speaker 11: And then guess who's the next group that he's going to round up? And then what? Enslaved folks. Okay, you're going to be here.
01:19:22
Speaker 9: There's a name that's going around for the new group.
01:19:24
Speaker 8: You know, we better wait.
01:19:28
Speaker 11: I don't care.
01:19:28
Speaker 9: I should say next group.
01:19:31
Speaker 7: Okay, I said.
01:19:32
Speaker 11: This when he was doing what he was doing the last time. I started listening to what he said, and I wasn't going to vote for him. I got to respect, you know, help. Then I was like, oh, hell to the no. Don't vote for him. Don't vote, and then it'll be your fault. Because guess what? He'll come back. Well, he'll come after me. If he's coming after the Mexicans, don't think all of us, not me. He's going to be coming after us.
01:19:57
Speaker 13: So you better vote.
01:20:00
Speaker 11: My grandfather was Native American, three-quarters Indian, one-fourth French. He told me, and my father told me, both of them, when you get ready to be able to vote, they said register for all your, every time it's time to vote, whatever it is.
01:20:16
Speaker 7: Vote.
01:20:17
Speaker 11: Because this is your country.
01:20:22
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
01:20:23
Speaker 9: And you know what? This is our last, one of our last days to remind people. Thank you, Sam. I appreciate it. Thank you. Have a great weekend.
01:20:31
Speaker 5: I will. I will.
01:20:33
Speaker 9: So, I don't know. We're doing the best we can. We really are doing the best we can. Let's go ahead and take a break. And when we come back, We will tell you what we were talking about the first hour after this.
01:20:56
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the conversation. It's Community Connection with Tina Cosby from the Praise Indie IndieGo Studios on Praise AM 1310, 95.1 FM.
01:21:08
Speaker 9: And we are back with Community Connection. James Patterson and Eric Garnet here with us on this lovely Friday.
01:21:15
Speaker 6: It's lovely.
01:21:16
Speaker 9: Yeah, another quick synopsis of the weather here. It looks threatening, but you say it's not?
01:21:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks threatening, but it's not. James, would you agree? It looks threatening, of course, but.
01:21:27
Speaker 10: I would agree, y'all.
01:21:29
Speaker 2: It's... Showers to the south of us.
01:21:32
Speaker 10: Yeah. We expect a mostly cloudy day today, although we should see some sunshine later today.
01:21:39
Speaker 7: We're hoping for that.
01:21:40
Speaker 10: But the clouds are thick and they are.
01:21:42
Speaker 13: Slow to move, so.
01:21:44
Speaker 10: We hope before, you know, the time for the sun to go down completely.
01:21:47
Speaker 9: I was going to say, it won't be too much daylight.
01:21:49
Speaker 2: Maybe it's more daylight in here.
01:21:52
Speaker 9: The day will be gone before the sun shows up.
01:21:55
Speaker 10: I'm hoping, Tina. I'm hoping. I'm hoping. I got my hands in here. I'm hoping that we can squeeze some rays in here.
01:22:02
Speaker 13: Yeah.
01:22:02
Speaker 10: The rain that pushed through central Indiana overnight and this morning. ushered in a cooler pattern so you may have to break out the jackets and the sweaters for this weekend but it's going to be absolutely beautiful when eric came on the air today nobody was with him.
01:22:19
Speaker 9: Okay i was trying i was barreling.
01:22:22
Speaker 2: This way she was making her way she was she was coming in i was coming.
01:22:26
Speaker 7: I was on the way She was headed this way.
01:22:29
Speaker 9: We had an icon. I mean, you just don't leave when you're sitting next to Angela Davis.
01:22:35
Speaker 10: It was a lifetime opportunity to see her.
01:22:37
Speaker 9: It really was, yeah.
01:22:38
Speaker 10: 66 degrees, though, when he came on. So all in all, it'll be a little bit cooler. We should have... You know, we'll have sunshine tomorrow and Sunday, and it'll be in the lower 70s tomorrow and then Sunday a little bit better, maybe mid-70s, but just gorgeous, perfect weather. We don't expect to see any precipitation or rain for quite a while. I'm going to say the next seven days or so, you should not be able to see rain. So beautiful temperatures will be a little cooler early next week, but that's it, Tina.
01:23:13
Speaker 2: Get that vitamin D with the sun.
01:23:14
Speaker 9: Yeah. And the gel capsules. I take the shortcut. But, you know, speaking, you know, one of the things that we talked about today was investing more in our young people. And it's it's really nice to be able to bring these programs to the show that do just that. And here now with us is Donna Brown. She is with the Womack Memorial CME Church. And WOMAC and a neighborhood community association, neighborhood, yeah, neighborhood community association, Meridian Kessler Neighborhood Association, they've combined forces to provide a program for young people of all ages, various ages, you know, to have something fun, safe, and interesting to do on a Saturday night. So first of all, welcome.
01:24:05
Speaker 10: Welcome, Ms.
01:24:05
Speaker 9: Brown, to the show. Glad to have you with us today.
01:24:07
Speaker 3: Thank you, Tina.
01:24:08
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:24:09
Speaker 9: So how did this all come about? I mean, what precipitated everything?
01:24:13
Speaker 17: Well, what happened was, like, on Sunday mornings when we were sitting around waiting for Sunday school to start, we'd talk about things that had been going on in the community and things that happened like the day before or during the week. And normally we just go, oh, did you hear about this? Did you hear about that? And we started hearing a whole bunch about young people in precarious, always in trouble on Saturday nights. They're downtown acting out and they're this place and that place. They're getting into a lot of.
01:24:48
Speaker 3: Trouble.
01:24:49
Speaker 17: And so we thought, what could we do to get our children something to do in their complaint was we don't have anything to do on Saturday night. All day, there's plenty to do, but when the lights go down, there's nothing to do. And so we came up with this program. We have a beautiful basement gymnasium that Meridian Catholic Neighborhood Association has provided for us.
01:25:09
Speaker 3: And it's a beautiful gymnasium. And we thought, we don't use it.
01:25:12
Speaker 17: Why don't we give it, open it up to our children to come, have a good safe space to come and have a good time, play basketball, and just keep them out of trouble.
01:25:21
Speaker 3: Between the hours of 5 and 10.
01:25:23
Speaker 17: And that was the hours that they were really starting to get into mischief. And so we came up with this idea to open up our basement to a basketball and see if we could get kids to come and spend some time doing fun stuff.
01:25:37
Speaker 9: So what's the youngest age that you can accommodate all the way up to?
01:25:41
Speaker 17: It was from kindergarten through high school.
01:25:44
Speaker 10: Wow.
01:25:45
Speaker 17: And what we did was we put it in groups, time groups, so they're not all there at the same time.
01:25:51
Speaker 3: Trying to do the same thing.
01:25:52
Speaker 17: And so we have three time periods where the children can come, kindergarten through sixth grade.
01:26:00
Speaker 3: Then we have middle school, and then we have high school.
01:26:05
Speaker 9: Is it just basketball, or are there other things that the youngsters can do in that space?
01:26:11
Speaker 17: Well, right now it's just basketball. We can't even get that off the ground. So we're trying to get that squared away and together. And then everyone has said, what are you doing besides basketball? Because everybody doesn't play basketball. and we know that. But they can watch basketball if they don't play. We're going to have a concession stand where they can get snacks and food to keep them busy and then watch the other people play if they are not interested. So right now we're focusing on trying to get the basketball, and then we have other ideas to try to get the kids to do something while they're the ones who are not interested in basketball. Right now we have limited space. We're in the basement, and so we're just trying to come up. We want to get the basketball off the ground, and then we can branch off to other.
01:26:49
Speaker 9: It's a great idea because... At least you're starting, you know, so often people say, well, what are we going to do? What are we going to do? And then, you know, there are those that say, what are we going to do? And then there's those that say, well, let's do this or let's at least try this. And it's never perfect at the beginning. It never is. But at least it's step number one to try to get things going. So you have the, you know, from kindergarten, something from kindergarten all the way to, you know, to and through high school.
01:27:15
Speaker 3: Yes.
01:27:15
Speaker 17: And the key part of this program is that we're trying to provide a secure space. So we have security that we're paying for to keep our place secure while the children are there. And so we've done that. And just something to do for the kids to have something to do. So they can't say, there's nothing to do. Well, you may not like basketball, but you come and watch the kids play.
01:27:40
Speaker 3: Have a good time. Meet friends.
01:27:42
Speaker 7: Eat the snacks.
01:27:42
Speaker 3: Yeah. Meet new friends.
01:27:44
Speaker 17: Make new acquaintances. And just come to have a good time and see where we can go with that. So that's where we are.
01:27:50
Speaker 9: Okay. James, I love the concept.
01:27:56
Speaker 10: Yeah, I do too. So is it Ms.
01:27:59
Speaker 6: Brown, Tina?
01:28:00
Speaker 5: Did I get the name right?
01:28:01
Speaker 3: Yes, it's Donna.
01:28:02
Speaker 10: Yeah, Ms. Donna Brown. Good name, good name. That was my.
01:28:07
Speaker 12: Wife's maiden name.
01:28:08
Speaker 15: Oh, really?
01:28:10
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:28:10
Speaker 10: What a gal.
01:28:12
Speaker 7: What a gal.
01:28:14
Speaker 10: Yeah, so, yeah. What did Eric say?
01:28:17
Speaker 9: No, Ms. Brown said, what a gal.
01:28:19
Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
01:28:20
Speaker 3: Talking about your wife.
01:28:21
Speaker 13: I thought Eric said, okay.
01:28:23
Speaker 10: But anyway, Ms. Brown, so where is your church located for everybody? And did you say it's in the basement of that building?
01:28:31
Speaker 17: Yes, our church is located at 4401 Carrollton Avenue, Indianapolis, Indiana, 46205. We're in what is called now Lower Broad River.
01:28:40
Speaker 13: Oh, yeah.
01:28:41
Speaker 17: And so it's got a new name, and that's where it's located. Our church is on the corner. It's a very big building, but we have a small congregation, and we're trying to do something that we can to help our children have a good time. You know, kids are supposed to have a good time when they're growing up and not so much all this violence and all.
01:28:58
Speaker 3: This negative activity that's going on in their lives.
01:29:03
Speaker 17: And so we're just trying to provide some place for them to come and meet new friends and have a good time.
01:29:08
Speaker 13: What's the name of the church?
01:29:10
Speaker 3: The church is called Womack Memorial CME Church.
01:29:14
Speaker 10: Yeah, and Tina, ask her, it says in the basement you're playing basketball. Is there enough room down there for a basketball court?
01:29:21
Speaker 15: Really?
01:29:21
Speaker 3: It's a full court.
01:29:23
Speaker 10: It's a full court.
01:29:24
Speaker 3: Oh, wow. Yes, it is. Absolutely, yep. That church was built in 1925 with a full court basketball court. It's beautiful. It's been recently restored.
01:29:34
Speaker 17: And so we just had all, it's redone, restored and it's ready to play.
01:29:40
Speaker 10: Yeah, so you're going to go, you got the kindergartners and you're going to also you're going to try to reach out to the older children as well to engage them?
01:29:50
Speaker 17: Yes, and so we're starting with the younger children just because it's earlier in the evening and we have them between 5 and 6. They can come and We only have a couple of coaches, and so we're still looking for volunteers.
01:30:04
Speaker 9: I was going to say, that's the biggest piece.
01:30:06
Speaker 17: These aren't my kids, and they're not really gung-ho as far as doing something for someone else's children. And so that's kind of a challenge for us, that we've had a little problem trying to get volunteers to come and participate as coaches with the children. But they have provided. We've got tons of equipment. We bought balls and a whole bunch of things to have.
01:30:30
Speaker 9: So is this a league or just an open gym?
01:30:33
Speaker 3: It's an open gym right now.
01:30:35
Speaker 17: The men are talking about starting leagues, but the two gentlemen who come and volunteer, they're talking about starting leagues. So right now we're just kind of open to see where we're going to go. But we just kind of have an open gym concept. They just come and play. They say, oh, no, no, no, maybe we can get a league and this sort of thing.
01:30:53
Speaker 9: So what is required of the young people and their parents to participate?
01:30:58
Speaker 3: Just come and sign up so we'll know who's in our gymnasium. That's it.
01:31:02
Speaker 9: Can you sign up at any time, or is there a sign-up window?
01:31:05
Speaker 3: Yes. Well, you can sign up any time.
01:31:07
Speaker 17: But what's going on now is I think his name is DJ Swift is coming on Saturday the 10th.
01:31:14
Speaker 9: B-Swift? Yeah, B-Swift.
01:31:16
Speaker 3: B-Swift. DJ B-Swift. Oh, that's okay. I'll call him DJ Swift.
01:31:20
Speaker 9: DJ Swift. He'll take it. I'm sure he'll take it. Yeah, B-Swift.
01:31:23
Speaker 3: He's coming on the 10th, and he's going to give us a big kickoff.
01:31:26
Speaker 9: Oh, good.
01:31:28
Speaker 17: And we're just hoping that this really gives us the boost that we need to get this program off the ground.
01:31:35
Speaker 9: Swift is great.
01:31:36
Speaker 2: You'll bring the fun.
01:31:37
Speaker 10: And I hope part of that program is going to be because you've got the children coming after school and to keep them, give them something to do.
01:31:44
Speaker 9: No, this is on Saturday, James. Saturday night.
01:31:47
Speaker 3: That's when they get in the most trouble.
01:31:50
Speaker 9: Yeah, when they can get in.
01:31:51
Speaker 10: Okay, I was going to suggest I didn't know the time, tutoring, school programs, that sort of thing, help with homework. You got any of that in mind?
01:32:03
Speaker 3: We do that during the week.
01:32:06
Speaker 7: Oh, you do it during the week.
01:32:08
Speaker 17: That's a totally different program. Yes, our church does offer tutoring.
01:32:14
Speaker 3: During the week on Wednesdays and Thursdays, something like that. But yes, we do offer that.
01:32:21
Speaker 17: For anyone, but mostly we just have participants or the children that attend the church. But it's not really widely known, but we do offer it to anyone.
01:32:29
Speaker 9: So you're saying registration is required. They just have to register and have parental consent?
01:32:34
Speaker 3: Yes, that's it.
01:32:35
Speaker 9: And so is there, are there sessions, no fees?
01:32:39
Speaker 2: No fees.
01:32:39
Speaker 9: So this is just, now when does this start and how long will it last or go through?
01:32:44
Speaker 17: Well, it's going to start October the 10th is our kickoff. And then after that, we're going to get together to see who we have on first, second, and third, how many people we have who have volunteered to come. And the official start date will be the first Saturday in November. After we get all of our people in place and try to get the program scheduled out, then we'll start officially on the first Saturday in November.
01:33:08
Speaker 3: I think that is November.
01:33:10
Speaker 9: First Saturday in November.
01:33:14
Speaker 3: Well, that's our official kickoff date.
01:33:15
Speaker 17: And it starts five to six is our first group for our Kindergarteners.
01:33:22
Speaker 3: And then our second.
01:33:24
Speaker 9: The little ones.
01:33:25
Speaker 3: Yep.
01:33:26
Speaker 17: And then we'll start with the next group, which would be our middle school children.
01:33:31
Speaker 3: And then our high schoolers bring.
01:33:32
Speaker 9: Up the real.
01:33:34
Speaker 17: And we had the program going until 1030, but the police asked us to start it, I mean, to end at 10 so that we give the children a chance to get home by 11.
01:33:43
Speaker 3: They want them off the street, they said.
01:33:46
Speaker 9: And so October 10th on a Saturday is the first day registration opens.
01:33:51
Speaker 7: Yes.
01:33:51
Speaker 9: And the first Saturday in November is November Saturday, November 7th.
01:33:56
Speaker 3: All right. So November 7th is our first day. Yeah.
01:34:00
Speaker 10: Well, kudos to her, Tina, but you can miss Brown because I was just looking at this homicide tracker and we are still below 100. And this is almost this is October.
01:34:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good.
01:34:12
Speaker 10: Yes, that's what I'm saying. We are still below 100. That is really historic numbers. And it's because of programs like Ms. Brown's. It's because of those in the community working with the mentors, the club. You know what I'm saying, Tina? All of the programs, we start naming them and we don't have enough room on our notebooks.
01:34:38
Speaker 9: Well, it's an all-hands-on-deck situation right now.
01:34:41
Speaker 3: That's what's happening.
01:34:42
Speaker 10: That's what's bringing it down.
01:34:45
Speaker 9: Pastor Willoughby, go ahead. How are you? Pastor Willoughby, are you there?
01:34:50
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm here. Can you hear me?
01:34:53
Speaker 7: Yes, yes.
01:34:54
Speaker 9: Go ahead.
01:34:55
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:34:55
Speaker 7: Okay.
01:34:56
Speaker 12: The only reason I'm concerned about this is because I'm receiving calls. I heard the lady earlier call in about the questions on the ballot. And we only got till early voting starts.
01:35:09
Speaker 3: Tuesday, right?
01:35:10
Speaker 9: Okay, I thought you were calling in about the program. Yes, early voting does start on Tuesday, yes. But, yeah, so what's your question? We were talking about the kids' program for Saturday nights.
01:35:26
Speaker 10: Oh, okay.
01:35:27
Speaker 12: Okay, I'm sorry.
01:35:28
Speaker 9: Oh, that's okay.
01:35:29
Speaker 10: He was talking about the amendments, Tina, and you're going to have Julia Vaughn on on Monday.
01:35:34
Speaker 9: Monday, yeah, tune in Monday.
01:35:36
Speaker 10: Yeah, you can delve into that question about.
01:35:38
Speaker 9: This, because this is very important.
01:35:40
Speaker 13: Yeah.
01:35:40
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:35:41
Speaker 10: Okay.
01:35:42
Speaker 7: Okay.
01:35:42
Speaker 3: All right.
01:35:43
Speaker 13: If you ask somebody on Monday.
01:35:45
Speaker 8: Okay, good.
01:35:46
Speaker 7: Yes.
01:35:46
Speaker 6: Yes.
01:35:46
Speaker 9: She'll be here Monday. Thank you. Thank you. But back to the youth program for Saturday nights. I love that it's Saturday night. I love that it's on Saturday and I love that it's in the evening. And I really like. that it's for all through, you know, kindergarten, middle, and high school, something to do. And this is at the Womack Memorial CME Church at 44th and Carrollton?
01:36:12
Speaker 3: Correct.
01:36:12
Speaker 9: 44th and Carrollton, which has a full-size gymnasium in the basement.
01:36:18
Speaker 10: In the basement.
01:36:20
Speaker 3: That's amazing.
01:36:21
Speaker 9: That you all are opening up in collaboration also with the Meridian Kessler Neighborhood Association. Now, tell me about their part. What's their role going to be?
01:36:30
Speaker 17: What their role is, what they have basically done, they are airing all of our information on their website, which is a good thing.
01:36:38
Speaker 3: And so that takes care of that side of the community.
01:36:42
Speaker 17: And what they have done, we applied for a grant, and they gave us the grant, which funded this program.
01:36:49
Speaker 7: Wonderful.
01:36:49
Speaker 17: And so that has been a really big help to our adventure, which.
01:36:55
Speaker 3: Is to try to put this together.
01:36:57
Speaker 17: So they have come through financially in a big way, and it has made a big difference.
01:37:01
Speaker 9: Yeah, you financially always does. Absolutely. So we got another caller. Robin, go ahead.
01:37:08
Speaker 2: How are you?
01:37:10
Speaker 14: Hi, I'm good.
01:37:11
Speaker 7: How are you?
01:37:11
Speaker 9: Doing good. Thank you.
01:37:13
Speaker 12: Great.
01:37:14
Speaker 14: I was listening and I actually have a business. I make custom jewelry. It's called My Best Friend's Jewelry Box. And it's after honoring my mom. I would like to know if I could offer just maybe a jewelry making something for the kids to do one of those evenings.
01:37:37
Speaker 9: One of those.
01:37:38
Speaker 14: Good idea.
01:37:39
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
01:37:40
Speaker 9: Yeah.
01:37:41
Speaker 3: That's a great idea.
01:37:42
Speaker 9: How kind.
01:37:42
Speaker 10: How kind.
01:37:43
Speaker 6: See?
01:37:44
Speaker 7: What a good idea.
01:37:45
Speaker 10: Yeah.
01:37:46
Speaker 3: Yes, I would love to write that. That's a great idea.
01:37:48
Speaker 9: I tell you what, Robin, can you, before you hang up, can you leave your information with Eric, and then Eric will pass it along to Ms.
01:37:56
Speaker 8: Brown.
01:37:57
Speaker 9: Thank you. And then you two can connect, okay?
01:38:00
Speaker 6: Absolutely.
01:38:01
Speaker 3: Thank you.
01:38:01
Speaker 9: Okay, so, yeah, don't hang up, because Eric's going to take your number, and then Ms. Brown will get in touch with you.
01:38:06
Speaker 2: All righty.
01:38:06
Speaker 3: Thank you.
01:38:07
Speaker 9: Okay, thank you. All right, thank you. See, it's catching on already. That's wonderful. And, you know, it goes to what we say, I say so often, people are basically good. And most people are basically good. And they want to do something to help. They don't want to, you know, they don't want to write the kids off or whatever. Most people want to help them and give them something to do. But we need us as adults to get more involved, to help out, because what we're doing is modeling behavior that they need to see.
01:38:39
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
01:38:40
Speaker 9: That's right.
01:38:40
Speaker 10: They need to see it.
01:38:42
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:38:42
Speaker 17: So everything that we can do positively is always a good thing.
01:38:45
Speaker 13: Yeah.
01:38:46
Speaker 12: Yeah.
01:38:46
Speaker 3: So that's why we're.
01:38:47
Speaker 17: Really focusing on this program. I think everyone at church thinks it's a great idea. And the thing of it is, it's just getting adults involved because a lot of adults, and on a Saturday, you know, I got tons of stuff to do. I'm not trying to sit around all day and hang out with somebody else's children.
01:39:01
Speaker 9: Take one Saturday out of four. Just volunteer for an hour or two.
01:39:05
Speaker 7: Yeah.
01:39:06
Speaker 9: One Saturday, you know, just dedicated. That's what we're looking for. Yeah.
01:39:08
Speaker 3: That's exactly what we're looking for.
01:39:10
Speaker 9: Indeed. So, um, What's the phone number slash website or whatever for people to find out more about registration, getting involved, signing their kids up, or volunteering, or all of the above? All of the above.
01:39:23
Speaker 7: Thank you.
01:39:23
Speaker 3: Please, yes. Our church's phone number is 317-283-5241. That's 317-283-5241.
01:39:26
Speaker 17: That's Womack Memorial CME Church, 4401 Carrollton Avenue, Indianapolis, Indiana.
01:39:30
Speaker 3: 46226.
01:39:42
Speaker 17: The website is the same as the church's name, WomackMemorialCMEChurch.com.
01:39:47
Speaker 9: Womack, and it's spelled W-O-M-A-C-K. Yes, CME Church. Like Bobby Womack.
01:39:53
Speaker 5: Yes.
01:39:54
Speaker 13: Uh-huh.
01:39:55
Speaker 9: No connection, I'm sure.
01:39:58
Speaker 8: None, none.
01:39:59
Speaker 9: Womack.
01:40:00
Speaker 3: That's the name of the church.
01:40:01
Speaker 9: Memorial CME Church.
01:40:02
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
01:40:03
Speaker 9: I say that for her. R & B lovers. But, no, thank you. And, again, thank you. Any final questions, James or Eric? Oh, Eric's over there working. He's getting that number for you.
01:40:15
Speaker 10: I just want to congratulate and lift up Ms. Brown and the work that she's doing. Yes, I mean, you are phenomenal because these children need somebody to pay attention to them, to listen to them.
01:40:30
Speaker 9: Just to validate them. Let them know they matter, too.
01:40:33
Speaker 10: Yes.
01:40:34
Speaker 6: And who they are.
01:40:35
Speaker 10: Let them know they don't know who they are. Oh, my God, they're somebody. Yeah.
01:40:40
Speaker 3: And they deserve to have a safe place to grow up.
01:40:44
Speaker 17: You know, no one wants to be always duckling, dodging, bullshitting, can't go anywhere and have a good time. They deserve to have a childhood full of fun just like we.
01:40:52
Speaker 3: Did when we grew up.
01:40:53
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:40:54
Speaker 17: And so that's what we're trying to offer them, just something different than all the negative behavior that's been going on all around them too often.
01:41:00
Speaker 9: What's the name of the program? Does it have a name?
01:41:04
Speaker 2: Yes.
01:41:05
Speaker 9: Okay. Let me get it. Let's see.
01:41:08
Speaker 10: Did she have a website too, Ms.
01:41:09
Speaker 7: Brown?
01:41:10
Speaker 6: You don't have a website?
01:41:10
Speaker 9: Free Weekend Night Open Basketball.
01:41:13
Speaker 3: Pastor calls it the Saturday Night Hoop.
01:41:15
Speaker 9: Saturday Night Hoop?
01:41:16
Speaker 3: Saturday Night Hoop.
01:41:18
Speaker 2: I like that. Saturday Night Hoop.
01:41:20
Speaker 3: Saturday Night Hoop.
01:41:21
Speaker 9: Okay, Saturday Night. Let's see. Elementary, 530 to 7. Middle School, 730 to 9. And high school?
01:41:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had to amend those times.
01:41:31
Speaker 9: Amend those times, okay.
01:41:32
Speaker 3: At home by 11. So 5 to 6. 5 to 6. Then 6.30 to 7.
01:41:34
Speaker 5: 6.30 to 7.
01:41:34
Speaker 9: No, it's not.
01:41:34
Speaker 3: It's 6.30 to 8.
01:41:35
Speaker 9: Then 8.30 to 10. There you go. That's how it works. So you don't have a website yet?
01:41:39
Speaker 3: The church's website. We're trying to get that together. It's up and under construction, but we're.
01:41:44
Speaker 9: Trying to get it together. But know that it's coming.
01:41:59
Speaker 10: It is.
01:42:00
Speaker 3: It is.
01:42:00
Speaker 9: Along with the name. No, thank you. I appreciate you. Thank you for doing that. This is what we like to end a Friday. You know, this is how we like to end a Friday.
01:42:09
Speaker 2: On a positive note.
01:42:10
Speaker 9: On a positive note. Indeed. Indeed. So James and Eric. we're heading into the weekend, you guys. Final weekend before voter registration ends.
01:42:21
Speaker 10: Yes, it is.
01:42:21
Speaker 3: Which is Monday.
01:42:22
Speaker 9: This is the final weekend. Check it out. IndianaVoters.com. IndianaVoters.com. Check out everything. Make sure you're still there. Make sure you're still active and make sure you are correct. Come correct, okay?
01:42:36
Speaker 1: Come correct.
01:42:37
Speaker 9: Come correct.
01:42:37
Speaker 7: Definitely.
01:42:38
Speaker 9: Take somebody with you, too.
01:42:39
Speaker 3: Not a gang.
01:42:40
Speaker 7: No, no.
01:42:40
Speaker 9: It's too serious. It's too serious to take lightly.
01:42:43
Speaker 8: Absolutely.
01:42:43
Speaker 9: We absolutely have to make sure. And I, too, James and Eric, I'm going to check mine one last time.
01:42:49
Speaker 3: I'm going to do the same.
01:42:50
Speaker 9: I keep checking just to make sure.
01:42:52
Speaker 10: Yeah, I checked mine recently. It's good. I believe that people are going to do the right thing this time, Tina.
01:42:58
Speaker 9: I think so.
01:43:00
Speaker 10: There's no too many times you can, you know, remind people in your circle, in your associations, hey— You know, we need your help this time. We really, really need your help.
01:43:10
Speaker 9: We got to have y'all. We need you. And bring somebody with you. Bring somebody with you to register and to vote. Make your voting plan after you get your registration in order. Make your plan to vote. And, you know, just ask around, see who wants to go. And if they don't want to go, go get them anyway. We got to get these numbers.
01:43:28
Speaker 2: Pick them up.
01:43:28
Speaker 9: Pick them up. Pick them up. That is all the time we have for right now. As always, thank you, everyone, for listening. Thank you again, Tony Mason and the Indianapolis Urban League, for an absolutely brilliant morning. I couldn't have had a better time. So thank you, thank you, thank you for including me in your special day today. Willie Moore Jr. on the radio is up next. Please continue to be safe, be well, and to stay informed. For everyone here, Eric, James, and myself, This is Community Connection.
