Community Connection - September 25, 2026 - Tina Cosby with Open Lines James and Eric

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Speaker 1: WTLC AM, W236 CR, Indianapolis. Broadcasting from the Praise Indy, IndyGo Studios. IndyGo, boldly moving Indy forward. Discussing the issues that matter to you and keeping you informed with what's happening in and around Indy. It's Community Connection with Tina Cosby on Praise AM.
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Speaker 2: 1310, 95.1 FM.
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Speaker 3: And good afternoon, good afternoon, good afternoon, and welcome to Community Connection. I'm Tina Cosby. Today is Friday, yes, Friday, Friday, September 25th, a big weekend ahead for the city of Indianapolis. We'll get to a whole bunch of what's going on. In just a bit. 317-480-1310. 317-480-1310 is the number to the show. And because it's Friday, it is going to be Open Lines and Week in Review. Open Lines and Week in Review. Before we end the show, though, we are going to hear from someone with the Indie Jazz Fest because that is also one of the many activities and events taking place this weekend. Here in the city of Indianapolis. So Indie Jazz Fest coming up in our second hour, first hour, and the majority of the show going to be open lines and week in review. 317-480-1310. 317-480-1310 is the number to the show. Lines are open for whatever may be on your mind. Again, this is Open Lines Friday. So let's go ahead and bring in our contributing analyst, James Patterson. James, are you there?
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Speaker 4: I think I'm here. Did you hear me before I got on? Uh-uh. Uh-uh.
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Speaker 5: What'd you say?
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Speaker 4: I hope you didn't hear what I was saying.
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Speaker 2: Okay. Okay.
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Speaker 4: No, I better not.
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Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
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Speaker 6: Okay.
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Speaker 4: I was thinking, no, I hope she didn't hear that.
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Speaker 3: No. No, I was talking. I was talking, so I didn't hear anything. How are you doing?
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Speaker 4: Okay. Okay. I'm doing good, Tina. Excellent. And yourself?
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Speaker 3: Doing well, doing well. So looking forward to, you know, open lines and for whatever's on the minds of our listeners. And want to remind everyone that we are now streaming or you can catch us streaming on Facebook, on our Facebook page. Right, Eric? And on YouTube.
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Speaker 5: Yes, YouTube.
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Speaker 3: And you know what? I'm going to pull those up because sometimes, you know, in addition to giving us a like or whatever, you can drop comments.
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Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 5: Comments.
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Speaker 7: You can leave those comments or questions.
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Speaker 3: You know, whatever, something you like, something you don't like. You know, if we can catch it during the show, we'll you know, we will.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I forgot how to do this split screen thing. I'll figure it out.
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Speaker 7: Let's see on I think Facebook. It's I think it's.
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Speaker 3: No, no, no. I'm talking about split screen to get both Facebook or YouTube to get the online interaction.
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Speaker 8: Right.
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Speaker 7: Okay.
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Speaker 3: But right now, I'll play with it in a little bit. But yeah.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Pretty cool that we're there.
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Speaker 5: It is.
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Speaker 6: It's cool.
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Speaker 7: We can be seen. James, we have your image.
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Speaker 9: If you're on YouTube, you can see your image there. Facebook, same thing.
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Speaker 4: People can throw rocks at it, right?
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Speaker 3: Okay, okay.
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Speaker 4: You know, you go to the state fair and they got that dunk machine or whatever. Do they still have those, you guys?
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Speaker 7: You know, I think some fairs do. I think some of the county fairs.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, those dunking machines, yeah.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, they dunk you, you know. I've never been dunked in one of those.
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Speaker 3: I've set up the machines before for different events and things.
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Speaker 10: Tina and Eric, you can see them and you can send in comments if you agree or disagree. With me, they'll just have to throw whatever.
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Speaker 7: At my photo.
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Speaker 3: No, no.
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Speaker 7: Need to throw anything. No need at all.
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Speaker 1: Not at all.
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 5: No, no, no.
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Speaker 3: We're not going to do that.
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Speaker 8: Okay.
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Speaker 3: But, yeah, yeah, so we'll catch up. And that's how a lot of folks, you know, communicate.
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Speaker 7: That's very true.
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Speaker 3: With On Air. Very true. And I have been not exactly good about doing that, so I'm going to do that. I'm going to be better about that.
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Speaker 9: Well, we've had lots of views, too, on YouTube and a number of views on Facebook.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: A little checking last night.
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Speaker 3: Did you?
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Speaker 7: I had a chance to see, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Comments?
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Pretty positive comments. They like the show. Thumbs up, which is good to see. I didn't know Eric looked like that. I was like, yeah. This is it.
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Speaker 3: This is me.
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Speaker 7: That's what I look like.
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Speaker 9: See, Tina, they knew you from Channel 8.
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Speaker 3: Many, many, many, many years ago. Yeah, all those years ago.
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Speaker 7: Who's this guy? And James.
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Speaker 11: That'd be Eric.
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Speaker 7: They'll know you.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, so I'll... I'll have to wear double masks when I go out.
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Speaker 7: That's what I should probably do, too.
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Speaker 8: Indeed.
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Speaker 3: Well, no, you guys talk. But no, seriously, though, because sometimes, you know, people can't always call in. But, you know, they can if they have the phone or whatever, they can text in. So and, you know, sometimes people have information that we don't have, know about something or want to comment. They want to agree or disagree with the viewpoint that's being discussed.
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Speaker 6: So.
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Speaker 3: That that opportunity is there now, in addition to giving us some likes or dislikes or whatever. We have to take them both. We have to take the likes or the dislikes and the praise and the criticism. You know, we'll take it. That's what we're here for. So we're here for both.
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Speaker 7: Unlike some people we know in Washington.
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Speaker 12: Hmm.
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Speaker 7: Sorry to bring it up. I just couldn't help it.
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Speaker 12: No, no, you're right.
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Speaker 10: They can't take anything in there.
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Speaker 7: Can't take the criticism.
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 10: Can't take nothing.
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Speaker 7: No, no.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I don't understand that you're a public figure. You're a world figure.
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Speaker 7: That's very true.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 12: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So it all goes. But anyway, 317-480-1310, 317-480-1310 for whatever may be on your mind. James, I guess we can start as we usually do with the weather.
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Speaker 4: Sure.
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Speaker 5: Okay.
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Speaker 3: Here comes the sun.
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Speaker 4: Here comes the sun. Here comes the sun.
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Speaker 10: And I think it's all right.
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Speaker 7: So you need some music now for that. We need music for you, James.
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Speaker 8: On that.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 4: Right, right, right. 1969, the Beatles, y'all. Anyway, we have some very, very nice weather heading our way today.
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Speaker 10: And it's already here. We'll see some partly cloudy skies this afternoon with pretty pleasant temperatures for a change. We've been cloudy, just mostly cloudy for the last four or five days, partly the fifth day, but at least solidly the last four days. There's some upper level precipitation now that's drifting through our area, but it's really, really upper level. And by the time it reaches the dry air on the surface, it doesn't reach the ground. So we don't even feel it. But we do see that sunshine breaking through the clouds today. And that'll continue. It was 64 degrees as we came on the air today. And if we get enough sunshine this afternoon, we'll crack that 70 degree mark into.
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Speaker 4: The low 70s.
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Speaker 10: All in all, it should be beautiful out there, Tina and Eric, for anything you want to do this afternoon outside.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely. Well, for those who are doing the outside thing, a rare Friday night football game tonight for the Indiana Hoosiers.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, the Hoosiers playing tonight down in Bloomington.
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Speaker 4: Northwestern, isn't it?
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Speaker 7: Northwestern.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so there's that.
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Speaker 7: Go IU.
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Speaker 3: Go IU, indeed. Tomorrow... What else? The Circle City Classic Parade.
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Speaker 7: You know it.
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Speaker 3: Downtown. We are all going to be a part of it. We're going to be there. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. As always. As always. You know, we enjoy the parade.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I was thinking about those high school football games that are going to come after the parade, right?
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Speaker 3: Well, the high school football games that are coming after, there's some that are going to be before. Or right when the parade steps off, there's some that are going to be during. So you have a number of things to enjoy down there at Lucas Oil all day long for Circle City Classic weekend. That's true. Tons of activities.
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Speaker 10: Is Pike playing who, Eric, Warren Central?
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Speaker 3: Well, you know what? Let's not leave out the girls.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, the girls.
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Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
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Speaker 3: That's when you met before, the flag football team.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
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Speaker 4: I don't even count them as football games.
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Speaker 7: Uh-oh.
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Speaker 5: Uh-oh.
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Speaker 2: Uh-oh.
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Speaker 7: Hey, James said it. James said it.
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Speaker 3: We got to put James on on Thursdays with Danny. Yeah, he and Danny are in the same league right there on Thursday.
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Speaker 2: Oh.
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Speaker 4: You know I'm just kidding. I love to play football games.
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Speaker 3: I love to play. Okay. Say so. Yeah, okay.
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Speaker 7: He's joking.
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Speaker 3: He's joking?
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Speaker 4: I am.
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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay.
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Speaker 7: He's joking.
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Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
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Speaker 3: Well, 10 a.m. 10 a.m. It's an all day football showcase with a battle of the bands with some HBCUs sandwiched in between. So starting at 10 a.m., the football showcase, 10 a.m. Christmas Addicts versus Arsenal Tech girls flag football. 1130 a.m. Lawrence North versus Ben Davis girls flag football. Two o'clock. Warren Central High School. versus Pike High School boys.
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Speaker 7: There they are, James. There they are.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: There's your boy. There's the boy.
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Speaker 8: There's the boy.
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Speaker 3: Right after that one at five o'clock, you have the HBCU Circle City Classic Battle of the Bands. It's coming up five o'clock. And then... Well, I'll tell you who the bands are. Kentucky State University, Mighty Marching Thoroughbreds from Frankfort, Kentucky. Miles College from Fairfield, Alabama, the Purple Marching Machine. And Talladega College's Great Tornado Band from Talladega, Alabama. So once a band has been crowned in the Battle of the Bands, football resumes again down there at Lucas Oil Stadium. 7 o'clock, Lawrence North versus Ben Davis boys high school football. You are kidding.
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Speaker 10: All day on into the night.
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Speaker 12: All day.
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Speaker 3: It's going to be busy. It's not the cookout. What do they call it?
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Speaker 2: The....
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Speaker 3: Oh, the tailgate, the tailgate.
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Speaker 7: Tailgating.
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Speaker 3: Then there's, I mean, there's just so much. Go to circlecityclassic.com, seriously. Or come to praiseindy.com, our website, even better.
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Speaker 7: It's all there.
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Speaker 3: It's all there, praiseindy.com. I was just telling you just some of the highlights, a few of the things. And, of course, the parade's always a biggie.
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Speaker 7: That's always a biggie. Biggie.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the biggie.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, leading up to it. And then more football than you could possibly stand.
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Speaker 6: All day.
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Speaker 3: All day long.
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Speaker 7: Bring it on.
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Speaker 3: Bring it on. What else? This is the final. We're heading into the final weekend with our friends at the Universal Circus. That's true. Yeah, tonight. And then tomorrow, three performances. Sunday, three performances. Indie Jazz Fest, of course, is going to be taking place. We're going to hear a little bit more about that around the second hour. Second hour.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's my understanding.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a biggie, too.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 12: Oh, my.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: You just and I probably am not even scratching the surface in terms of a lot of the activities and events and things going on this this Circle City Classic weekend. But needless to say.
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Speaker 4: We have perfect weather.
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Speaker 3: I was going to say better. Tremendous weather to do whatever you want to do.
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Speaker 8: Yes.
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Speaker 3: So, Eric, I know you said you were planning to go and I, too, am planning to go to the circus this weekend. So we're going to squeeze that in somewhere.
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Speaker 7: Somewhere amidst all the fun.
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Speaker 3: Amidst all the fun. We're going to squeeze in the circus because I just can't let the Universal Circus come.
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Speaker 7: No, that's what we said. We said the same thing. We got to be there.
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Speaker 3: We're going to be there. Yeah, we're going to go. And that's out at Lafayette Square, of course. Speaking of Lafayette Square, we want to let everyone know that there's still time. If you would like to volunteer with Mary Clark, the executive director and founder of the International Marketplace Coalition out there. that corridor that she has really spearheaded all efforts to revive and rejuvenate, you know, just get life back to that area again with an international flavor. Their Global Village Welcome Center and Museum is closing. They have to vacate by the end of the day today.
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Speaker 7: That's right.
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Speaker 3: They need volunteers, volunteers to help out.
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Speaker 4: To help them know where they're going.
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Speaker 3: Well, no, we don't know where they're going just yet. But in terms of volunteers, that's what I was going to say. And the help is needed in the form of boxing up and getting things on the truck to move into storage until the new place is ready. And they've got thousands of artifacts from the museum. They've got furniture. They've got a lot of things that they just have to prepare to put into storage until the new place is ready. She kind of gave us a hint that they will have another place to go.
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Speaker 7: She did.
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Speaker 3: It looks like the place will be in that corridor, meaning the international marketplace, which is out that way. And they have some really good community partners and businesses and and the like that are all going to be contributing to make it happen but they're just not ready to announce uh the name so right now since they have to be out by today uh they just need help boxing things up that's that's pretty much what she was saying wasn't it yeah that's what.
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Speaker 7: To help boxing things up today for the most part.
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Speaker 3: Yeah and uh and they've got the folks to uh i guess maybe the people if you're boxing up you can help load.
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Speaker 7: It if you can if you i'm sure they could use that.
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Speaker 3: Too yeah imagine yeah but no we don't know where they're going but We got to believe there's a very good possibility that they're going to be right there. It's a large area.
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Speaker 7: It is very large. So there's plenty of opportunity.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's absolutely huge.
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Speaker 7: It's a huge area.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: They can go a number of places out there.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And the old Value City Furniture Store, which housed furniture, was huge. And that area that they that the Welcome Center, you know, the Global Village Center was. Oh, my goodness. It was just a beautiful place.
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Speaker 7: That's true. Definitely true.
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Speaker 12: Just beautiful.
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Speaker 3: She was saying they had hosted kings and queens.
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Speaker 7: From foreign countries.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, she said that.
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Speaker 7: I had no idea. I had no idea.
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Speaker 3: That was the case, but that's pretty awesome. I love one of the things she loves to say about that area is, if you come out here and spend a few days, you can literally eat your way around the world, meaning you can sample cuisine and buy. And I've tried a few. I've tried Cuban, Ethiopian cuisine. What was that other one? Oh, I can't think. It was some kind of an Indian.
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Speaker 7: Indian?
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Speaker 3: Indian. Yeah. But it was, I can't remember. I'm looking at the place right now. But anyway, I've tried a lot of the different restaurants out that way, too. And they are all good. International.
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Speaker 7: International, for sure.
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Speaker 3: Very much an international flavor. Yes, indeed. Have you guys been out that way to dine?
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Speaker 9: I haven't lately, but I have before. I have been out there before. I think I was a fan of the Indian food. I can't think of what the specific restaurant is, but it's a part of it.
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Speaker 3: They probably have several.
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Speaker 7: Oh, there's several, of course.
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Speaker 3: But this place was a, I'm trying to think of the name of it, because they got, believe it or not, they got recognition for their fried chicken. Did they really?
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Speaker 4: Was it India Palace Restaurant?
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Speaker 6: No, no, no.
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Speaker 3: It wasn't India Palace. It'll come to me in just a moment.
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Speaker 4: I say that because that's right there at 4213 Lafayette Road. So I was just wondering. You said something about Indian cuisine. So I just thought.
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Speaker 3: No, that was.
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Speaker 4: No, that was not it.
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Speaker 3: No, that was Eric was saying he had had. That's what he had had.
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Speaker 7: That was me.
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Speaker 3: I know exactly where you're talking about. And actually, it's in the same strip mall on the same side of the street, if I'm not mistaken. as the Global Village Center. I think that's, you know, this one was further north and further west. And I went there. Because I was like fried chicken at this place. And so, of course, I didn't get the ethnic food. I got the fried chicken.
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Speaker 7: You got the fried chicken.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I wanted to see what it was all about. It was good.
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Speaker 5: It was good.
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Speaker 3: But anyway, so that's what's going on today. So, again, if you want to volunteer, help out, you need some volunteer hours to do some stuff, they certainly could use the help. I think they've been working on it all week. And, you know, when you have to break down a behemoth like that, it's not easy.
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Speaker 7: That's very true.
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Speaker 3: It's not easy.
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Speaker 7: Very true. There's a lot to go into.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just wonder.
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Speaker 10: I mean, to me it's just, okay, I'll put it in focus as I understand it. And I didn't hear, did you have her on? Yeah, the Global Village head, did you have her on?
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Speaker 3: She actually called in because we were talking about it. Actually, what happened was I was just sharing a tip that I got that I told that I was sharing with our listeners that a tip that I had to follow up on. And so she called in and said, it's true what you heard and so on and so forth.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 10: OK, so I didn't hear that. So the questions that come to mind is why are they leaving there? And if you can answer that, go ahead.
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Speaker 4: Why are they leaving it?
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Speaker 10: Where are they going? And, like, it looks like they have to do it quickly. But what are the plans for the new place? Are they going to have the same exhibits? Is it going to be bigger or smaller? I mean, those kind of questions come in my mind when I heard that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. According to what Mary Clark had shared, it started earlier several months ago. Apparently they had fallen a couple of months behind in their rent. Uh, and they were able to take care of that, but the landlord had changed the terms of the lease, um, and, uh, made.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So she said that was that one really, you know, a couple of months behind wasn't the problem because they were able to take care of that. But the terms, uh, that the landlord had changed at the least made it impossible to be able to stay there in addition to, you know, raising the rates or something. And I'm trying to remember. Eric, she listed there was a number of things. There were a number of things.
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Speaker 7: There were a number, and I don't know if I can recall.
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Speaker 3: And I can't recall all of them. But she said it just was not going to be sustainable anymore, and it would be better to just go ahead and leave. They had a 20-year lease. It was a 20-year lease that they thought they had that just went crazy. It just went by the wayside. It wasn't exactly the way it was supposed to be. And so where they're going, James, I do not know. Again, as I was saying, she said they have some pretty good leads and they're fairly confident that they will be able to get a nice place, maybe even even better out there in that corridor. But it was just you know, it was you know, I don't want to, you know, boil it down to landlord tenant disagreements. But in a lot of ways, that's kind of what it was, because they had a 20 year lease that they signed three or four years ago that just simply wasn't being um, uh, honored in the way, uh, in which it was drawn up. So, uh, in the, since they signed the lease four or five years ago, I think it, it has just become wildly popular. Um, a nice drawing, uh, drawing card, a nice event space for the community, a nice international space. And, uh, it was doing everything it was built to do, but, when they change the terms of your lease and they increase your, you know, more. Yeah.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So there's just a whole lot of things that go on that went on. And the long and the short of it was it was better to move because they just weren't going to get those issues worked out. So we what she's she's going to keep us she's going to keep us up to date as to when, you know, when they get in their new place and where they're going to be and things of that nature. The mission will remain the same. Everything will remain the same. It will remain a museum. It's going to remain a welcoming center and a focus. It's going to remain event, meeting, community space as it was at the other location.
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Speaker 2: Good.
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Speaker 4: That's good.
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Speaker 3: So you got it?
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Speaker 10: Uh-huh, yeah.
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Speaker 6: Oh, okay.
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Speaker 4: I got it. You kind of answered my question.
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Speaker 10: Because I think the biggest one is where are they going next? They do good work out there. They have a good center. And I just hope it doesn't go by the wayside. You know, a lot of good, I think, programs like that sometimes fall under the cracks or close because they don't get enough support. And I think our community, our city is, our area is big enough to find support for an initiative like this, particularly the museum. Museums are hard to come by and hard to sustain. And so I just, I guess it's just being hopeful that it doesn't fold for good.
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Speaker 3: Well, I too am very hopeful and very optimistic. And Mary Clark, like I said, the executive director was very encouraging in her comments. She was disappointed, obviously, that they had to make this change, but really, really encouraged that they are going to continue. There's no you know that they have every every resource necessary to be able to continue. They just have to put up put all the pieces together again.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, the fact that you mentioned they fell behind on their rent. I mean, my hope and prayer is that they find a steady stream of income for support, support income, you know, some an endowment or some sort of gift or, you know, an annual.
00:23:08
Speaker 10: Grant or something.
00:23:10
Speaker 3: Exactly. And it seems to me like she. She dismissed that as the least of the issues because she was saying that, you know, that could have been, that was corrected or could have been, yeah. She said we did fall a couple months behind, but that wasn't the, I think the biggest thing was them changing the terms of the 20-year agreement.
00:23:28
Speaker 7: That's the impression I got.
00:23:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't get the impression that money, you know, was an issue.
00:23:33
Speaker 7: Wasn't right, right.
00:23:35
Speaker 12: But, you know.
00:23:36
Speaker 10: Yeah, and if it's a 20-year lease, I guess, you know, they must have had the, legal right to change it, but that throws a monkey wrench in everything. Because if you sign a lease, you expect those terms to be good for the terms of the lease, you know, but unless it's written in there where they can change it. And apparently that's what happened.
00:23:57
Speaker 3: Contracts usually favor those who draw them up. And landlords in the state of Indiana have all the favor in the world. So I don't doubt what Mary was telling us. She's a, You know, she's a pretty straight shooter. And so we'll see. We soon shall see.
00:24:16
Speaker 5: 317-480-1310.
00:24:16
Speaker 4: 317-480-1310.
00:24:17
Speaker 3: Got some calls on the line. What we're going to do, let's go ahead and take a quick break here, Eric. And then when we come back, we can go to the phone lines.
00:24:32
Speaker 7: I recognize that.
00:24:33
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:24:34
Speaker 8: Okay.
00:24:35
Speaker 7: Before we go to break.
00:24:38
Speaker 4: Okay.
00:24:39
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:24:40
Speaker 3: What do you think, James?
00:24:44
Speaker 4: I'm cautiously optimistic. I like it.
00:24:48
Speaker 3: Cautiously optimistic.
00:24:50
Speaker 4: Yeah, I haven't heard enough of it yet. But I like it, Eric. It's a good change.
00:24:55
Speaker 10: I think it's an upgrade from what was there.
00:24:57
Speaker 12: Okay.
00:24:59
Speaker 4: Okay.
00:25:00
Speaker 9: I can't take credit for it, actually. Somebody else that Tina knows takes credit for that.
00:25:06
Speaker 7: I just kind of.
00:25:07
Speaker 3: Erica, we've been looking for, because we were forced to change our speaking contracts. Yes, that's right. And honoring things. We had to change our original music that has been with the show since I first started several years ago. Who does that belong to? James, I don't know.
00:25:26
Speaker 7: We couldn't begin to even tell you. It was copyrighted by somebody.
00:25:29
Speaker 3: Let's put it this way. It was a YouTube thing.
00:25:31
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:25:32
Speaker 3: YouTube says you can't use that. And so we had to abandon the other. And the guy who could tell us is not here today, so I can't even text him. But anyway, we complied, and so we've been looking.
00:25:44
Speaker 2: And.
00:25:46
Speaker 3: Eric and our guy, Edmo, they've been giving me all these different cuts and all this other stuff. So they narrowed it down to, what, four?
00:25:52
Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
00:25:53
Speaker 3: And you sent me four. So the other morning, I was getting my grandson ready for school, taking him to school. And I said, hey, you know, take a listen to these four. And he said, I like number two.
00:26:06
Speaker 7: And this?
00:26:07
Speaker 3: And that is number two.
00:26:08
Speaker 7: Is number two.
00:26:10
Speaker 3: And I just kept playing. I played all four of them again. I said, okay, listen again. He said, I told you I like number two. I said, OK. So I tried it a third time. I said, want you to listen to it before I have to get you to get you to school. What what is it? Number two. Number two. OK. I said, OK, stand by. So that's number two.
00:26:33
Speaker 7: He's number two.
00:26:34
Speaker 4: He's definitely younger generation, so.
00:26:37
Speaker 12: He is.
00:26:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is. And I figured, hey, younger, fresher, newer.
00:26:41
Speaker 7: Exactly.
00:26:42
Speaker 8: Exactly.
00:26:43
Speaker 3: And if that's how he sees it, that's how he hears it, we can give it a shot. So we'll see. We'll see what it sounds like.
00:26:49
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:26:49
Speaker 3: And if not, we'll change it again, won't we?
00:26:51
Speaker 7: Yeah, we can.
00:26:52
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
00:26:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have the ability to do that again.
00:26:53
Speaker 7: We have thousands of choices.
00:26:55
Speaker 3: Thousands of choices. Literally.
00:26:57
Speaker 12: Literally.
00:26:57
Speaker 3: Probably tens of thousands of choices. It is a monumental task, so. We'll see. We'll see. But we'll try this one out.
00:27:05
Speaker 7: Okay.
00:27:06
Speaker 3: Okay. All right.
00:27:07
Speaker 7: We'll be back.
00:27:08
Speaker 3: Okay. We're back.
00:27:19
Speaker 2: James.
00:27:20
Speaker 6: James.
00:27:26
Speaker 3: What do you think now?
00:27:29
Speaker 4: You know what, Tina? I'm going to give it a chance. You know, the more I hear it, I see what your grandson was talking about. It might work.
00:27:41
Speaker 3: It might. Like I said, if this one doesn't work, there's so many others.
00:27:46
Speaker 7: So many.
00:27:47
Speaker 3: I just thought it was funny that he was so adamant that it had to be that one out of the four, and I kept trying to trip him up. Because there was one I liked a little bit better.
00:27:57
Speaker 4: We can't dismiss. No, we cannot dismiss, you know, the opinions of the little ones.
00:28:03
Speaker 7: No, that's true.
00:28:04
Speaker 1: You're right.
00:28:06
Speaker 3: I have to tell you, though, I later asked his mother after, you know, I later I asked her a little bit later and I played the same for her. And she told me and hers were were different. And it wasn't the one that he picked either. And she said, doesn't matter what I say, because she said, I know what he says is going to come up. And I said, well, not necessarily. She said, okay, well, we'll see. We'll see which one you choose. But anyway, look, Eric and I were having fun with that. But you know what? When you think about all of the choices and the different things you have, it's not as easy as it seems.
00:28:39
Speaker 7: No, it's not.
00:28:39
Speaker 3: Not at all.
00:28:40
Speaker 4: And you know what?
00:28:41
Speaker 10: We can play it for a while and maybe see what our listeners think or whatever. You know, I mean, just kind of see how it works, how it gels, how it.
00:28:49
Speaker 4: Sits on us.
00:28:51
Speaker 10: But I don't think that it's something that you can dismiss right away. I think that he made a good choice. It's in the running.
00:28:59
Speaker 3: It's not awful.
00:29:00
Speaker 7: No, it's not. Not at all.
00:29:02
Speaker 3: All righty. Well, let's get back to the business at hand.
00:29:04
Speaker 6: 317-480-1310.
00:29:04
Speaker 2: 317-480-1310.
00:29:09
Speaker 3: Open lines, we can review whatever is on your mind. Lines are completely open. Let's go to the phone lines. Kevin, go ahead. How are you? Kevin, are you there?
00:29:20
Speaker 8: Hi, can you hear me?
00:29:22
Speaker 3: Yes, yes. How are you?
00:29:24
Speaker 4: I'm doing well.
00:29:24
Speaker 8: Hey, Tina, James, and Eric.
00:29:26
Speaker 12: Hey, sir.
00:29:27
Speaker 4: Hey, how are you?
00:29:28
Speaker 8: I got a couple comments. Sorry for laughing, but you hear James' voice on the radio. And I heard Eric's voice on the radio. When I get to see a picture, it was nothing like I thought it was going to be.
00:29:41
Speaker 7: You know, that's typically how it is.
00:29:42
Speaker 3: Everybody says that. Everybody says that.
00:29:46
Speaker 4: Wow. That's a Yeah, please, go ahead.
00:29:51
Speaker 3: We just lost his connection. Kevin, if you want to call back. I think he's calling back. No, that's not Kevin. Let's go to Mr. Russell. Let's go to Mr.
00:30:03
Speaker 2: Russell.
00:30:04
Speaker 3: Okay, Mr. Russell, are you there?
00:30:07
Speaker 12: Hey, folks.
00:30:08
Speaker 4: Hey, Mr. Russell.
00:30:10
Speaker 12: Yeah, I just wanted to say that for the first time I went to the.
00:30:16
Speaker 12: Universal Circus.
00:30:18
Speaker 5: Oh, you did?
00:30:19
Speaker 3: And your thoughts?
00:30:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.
00:30:23
Speaker 12: I was very much impressed, and so I've been telling the folks I know particularly that have children in the family, you know, because the children that were there last night, they really got a kick out of the show, especially, but it was a great crowd, and I must say that.
00:30:48
Speaker 12: It seemed to me that all of the things that we've been suffering with the redistricting and people taking slights and disregarded, it seemed like all of that kind of disappeared. You know, the crowd was really into it and the music was great and it was, Well organized. I mean, you know, it ended right on time. Obviously they've been doing it a while, you know, but yeah, everything, everything was great in terms of what I could see. So yeah, I would highly recommend it that anybody that hasn't seen it or has seen it and wants to see it again, do it because very impressive.
00:31:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. It's, it's, it's so, you know what I like? It's so professional. It is an extremely professional, it's show business and it's at its finest, showmanship at its finest. And you got to love it. You got to love it.
00:31:51
Speaker 12: And it was packed, you know, crowd. I guess it was kind of a special occasion in a way because I guess one of the artistic directors, it was his birthday and they presented him with a cake. It was well done. Absolutely.
00:32:08
Speaker 1: Indeed.
00:32:08
Speaker 3: All right.
00:32:09
Speaker 12: In my mind.
00:32:10
Speaker 3: All right.
00:32:11
Speaker 12: So, yeah, I would have to recommend it, definitely. Okay.
00:32:14
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:32:16
Speaker 10: And to what you said, Mr. Russell, about, you know, everything going on. Yeah, it's good to get out and just relax because we're going to take care of this. This is going to be taken care of. When God is on your side, it's going to be taken care of. Don't worry about the craziness going on up there. Don't worry about that. Just, you know, enjoy yourself. We've got a good weekend. Tina just wrapped off like 90.
00:32:38
Speaker 4: Things to do tomorrow. I mean, just relax and enjoy yourself.
00:32:42
Speaker 10: October 6th is the first day of early voting, so that's coming up. Soon we can take care of business when it's time to do so. But, yeah, nothing wrong with that.
00:32:51
Speaker 4: It's good that you said that.
00:32:52
Speaker 10: I'm glad that we're having a good time.
00:32:55
Speaker 12: And, you know, there's a lot going on, so Naptown is coming alive in autumn.
00:33:01
Speaker 3: There we go. Love it.
00:33:02
Speaker 12: Love it, love it, love it.
00:33:04
Speaker 7: That's true.
00:33:04
Speaker 12: One of the things that people might want to know about Citizens Energy tomorrow is having a community fest from 10 to 1, I think.
00:33:13
Speaker 3: Yes, they have been advertising heavily about that. Yes, a lot of resources and a lot of, sounds like a lot of fun. They're trying to have fun. if people can have fun while they're crying about the cost of their energy bills.
00:33:27
Speaker 7: Are they going to talk about that?
00:33:29
Speaker 3: I'm sure they won't. They want it to be a pure party, but they are having Community Day tomorrow. Thank you for that, Mr.
00:33:36
Speaker 12: Russell. Yeah, and as far as the Lafayette Square and the International Marketplace Coalition, I've heard a lot of rumors about that. Maybe you have, too. I've heard that they want to build high-rise apartments on that property or something, you know.
00:34:01
Speaker 3: Probably, which is why they were so aggressive about changing the terms and making it. You know, it sounds like they made it to a situation where they just simply wanted to push you out as opposed to work with you.
00:34:13
Speaker 12: Right, right.
00:34:14
Speaker 3: So that makes sense.
00:34:15
Speaker 12: Yeah, unfortunately.
00:34:16
Speaker 3: All right.
00:34:16
Speaker 12: Yeah, I was telling Mary Clark that, you know, The idea of that marketplace is so great because look at what's happening in the world today. People are bombing each other, killing each other, hacking each other, talking about artificial intelligence. So when you have positive efforts of people working together, You know, this needs to be really expanded rather than curtailed. And I was telling her, you know, maybe these things can be replicated around, you know. This is, I think, Hispanic Heritage Week, for instance, you know, or month. And so... Let's concentrate on people working together, you know, instead of hitting each other and shooting each other and cutting each other, you know.
00:35:17
Speaker 3: Absolutely. All right, Mr. Russell, thank you. Thank you. It's certainly worth maintaining. Certainly worth maintaining.
00:35:23
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:35:24
Speaker 3: And didn't she say something like that, too?
00:35:26
Speaker 7: She did say something like that, yes.
00:35:27
Speaker 3: That they wanted her to bring it to, there are some other cities that wanted her to bring that to.
00:35:31
Speaker 7: Other cities, yeah, they have an interest.
00:35:32
Speaker 3: They have an interest. And you can bring it there. Yeah, yeah, she did. Kevin is back.
00:35:37
Speaker 7: Kevin is back. He is right here. Kevin, you there? We got you?
00:35:42
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm here.
00:35:43
Speaker 7: How are you?
00:35:45
Speaker 8: Sorry about that. Like I said, you get in your head when you think somebody would look like this by their voice. It could have been a blind lineup. I think I would have got both guys wrong.
00:35:57
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:36:01
Speaker 8: Two other things. One thing is The lady from International. Did I hear her wrong? I thought she said that they missed a couple of rent payments. No, no, no.
00:36:10
Speaker 3: She did say that. And we thought we said that.
00:36:12
Speaker 12: Yeah.
00:36:12
Speaker 3: She said they missed. But she said that wasn't the competing thing. It was the terms of the lease that got ugly.
00:36:18
Speaker 2: Yeah. Right.
00:36:19
Speaker 6: OK.
00:36:20
Speaker 8: And then my other thing is, too, I've seen some probably six foot two, six foot three white guy walking around downtown lost a day. I told him he needed to call the Tina Cosby show. He needs to get on there. I think his first name was Bo. Last name was Bye.
00:36:37
Speaker 4: Huh?
00:36:39
Speaker 7: Bo Bye.
00:36:40
Speaker 3: He was homeless. Okay. Bo Bye.
00:36:45
Speaker 4: Okay.
00:36:47
Speaker 8: He was walking around downtown, lost earlier, looking for somebody, and I ran into him. I told him, I said, if you want to get elected, you might want to get in there on Tina Cosby's show.
00:36:55
Speaker 3: Well, interesting. Go ahead, Kevin. Go ahead.
00:36:59
Speaker 8: No, I'm just saying, I told him he might want to reach out to you and get on your show.
00:37:03
Speaker 3: Even more than that, Kevin, he needs to put some, have his campaign put some money with our stations.
00:37:08
Speaker 7: Yeah, advertise.
00:37:09
Speaker 3: Advertise, because you got to have the black vote.
00:37:11
Speaker 7: That's true.
00:37:12
Speaker 3: You Democrats. Don't take it for granted. Well, that's why you have, do not take us for granted. That's why you need to put some money with us. So not only come on the show, but, you know, take some of those campaign funds and send them over here. Love to have him.
00:37:27
Speaker 4: That's right.
00:37:28
Speaker 8: I said, my exact words were, if you're serious about getting elected, you need to at least get in on that show. So hopefully his people call out to you, but he definitely was downtown looking for some meeting. He was totally lost. He was probably four or five blocks from where he needed to be. But I'm going to be honest with you, he seemed pretty down to earth. He was walking. He had somebody in the car. He decided to walk. He put his earbuds in and said, well, I just walked four or five blocks. At least things tend to be pretty down to earth.
00:37:51
Speaker 3: Okay, okay. Yeah, I've heard that, and he has met with some folks that are on the show on the regular, and they say the same thing, but they also have said that, you know, this is the place, this, TL, Hot, you know, the other, FM, Hot, you know, you need to be with all of us in addition to some of the others because you cannot take this voting block for granted. You just can't.
00:38:14
Speaker 8: They usually do, but it usually don't work out too well for them.
00:38:19
Speaker 4: That's right.
00:38:19
Speaker 10: When they do, people can see that.
00:38:22
Speaker 3: People can see it, indeed. All right.
00:38:24
Speaker 8: Y'all enjoy your day. Hopefully I'll see you down at the parade tomorrow.
00:38:28
Speaker 6: Okay.
00:38:29
Speaker 7: All right, Kevin.
00:38:30
Speaker 3: Sounds good.
00:38:30
Speaker 4: Have a good weekend, Kevin.
00:38:32
Speaker 3: All right, take care.
00:38:33
Speaker 8: Oh, hey, the circus, yes. The circus is nice. I actually got an opportunity to work there. And one thing that I never thought of that we kind of take for granted is they actually employed a lot of people who live here.
00:38:45
Speaker 3: Oh, that's nice.
00:38:46
Speaker 7: That is good to hear.
00:38:46
Speaker 6: That's really good.
00:38:47
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:38:47
Speaker 7: That's good to hear.
00:38:48
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:38:49
Speaker 8: The guys, people doing the tickets, escorting people to their seats, doing the EMS work. The sheriff there were all local people. So they are putting money back into the community.
00:38:58
Speaker 3: Love it. Love it.
00:38:59
Speaker 8: Love it.
00:39:00
Speaker 12: Love it.
00:39:00
Speaker 4: That's what it's about.
00:39:01
Speaker 6: Indeed.
00:39:01
Speaker 4: That's what it's about. Yep.
00:39:03
Speaker 2: Yep.
00:39:03
Speaker 4: Yep.
00:39:03
Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you, Kevin. Yeah. Yeah. Economic input.
00:39:08
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:39:09
Speaker 3: That's it.
00:39:09
Speaker 7: That's it.
00:39:10
Speaker 5: 317.
00:39:10
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
00:39:11
Speaker 2: 480-1310. 317-480-1310.
00:39:11
Speaker 1: Jeff, go ahead.
00:39:11
Speaker 4: How are you?
00:39:12
Speaker 3: TGIF, everybody.
00:39:13
Speaker 6: Hey, TGIF.
00:39:13
Speaker 3: TGIF, indeed. Tina, I think your grandson might be on to something. I tell you what.
00:39:20
Speaker 9: Everybody.
00:39:20
Speaker 3: Hey, TG.
00:39:22
Speaker 4: Yeah, indeed. Tina, I think your grandson might be on to something.
00:39:29
Speaker 3: I tell you what, when he takes a stand, you can't take him off of it. I like that about him. You can't shake him. He said, no, that's it, and that's it.
00:39:37
Speaker 4: So, yeah. And James, James, you know I love you because you're my fellow sailor. But James, I got to say this, okay? You are no George Harrison. Oh, okay.
00:39:51
Speaker 7: When it comes to singing.
00:39:52
Speaker 3: Oh, I was like, the Beatles.
00:39:54
Speaker 7: When it comes to singing, here comes the sun.
00:39:57
Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
00:39:58
Speaker 4: Here comes the sun.
00:39:59
Speaker 3: Got you, got you.
00:40:00
Speaker 4: It's all right. Okay, I get you. I got you. Yeah, I mean, yeah, the George and Harrison have his lane, but, you know, hey, good try, though.
00:40:13
Speaker 12: Okay.
00:40:15
Speaker 4: Did you know, did the name Donna Ganger, G-A-N-G-E-R ring any bell to you? No.
00:40:26
Speaker 3: Should we know that name?
00:40:28
Speaker 4: Well, you know her daughter, her deceased daughter, Renee Good.
00:40:32
Speaker 3: Hmm. Okay. She was shot by ice.
00:40:36
Speaker 8: Oh.
00:40:36
Speaker 3: Done down by ice, yeah.
00:40:38
Speaker 4: In Minnesota.
00:40:38
Speaker 3: In Minnesota, yeah.
00:40:39
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:40:40
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:40:40
Speaker 7: Okay.
00:40:42
Speaker 6: Renee Good.
00:40:42
Speaker 4: Renee's good.
00:40:44
Speaker 2: Yep.
00:40:44
Speaker 4: Well, Miss Rene Good's mother voted for Donald Trump, saying that she wanted all the immigrants out and she had issues with the LGBTQ community. And her vote indirectly put blood on her hands. Voting for Donald Trump.
00:41:05
Speaker 3: So wait a minute. So in what context does she come to the forefront?
00:41:10
Speaker 4: She went before Congress. this week, to speak about how dangerous ICE is.
00:41:17
Speaker 3: Oh, and she shared that information.
00:41:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, she's, well, I guess so, you know, it cost her her daughter's life. I thought Trump was going to get all the immigrants and all this, get these people and that people. I didn't think it would cost her daughter's life.
00:41:36
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know. I didn't hear that.
00:41:38
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was— yeah, C-SPAN had it. It was on— it was on Congress. She went before Congress and talked about it and how that tears her up inside. So I'm just saying, Tim, you always say it all the time. Elections have consequences.
00:41:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the other folks— Deon talks about, hey, don't vote against your own interests, your own best interests.
00:41:56
Speaker 4: Well, you know, she was a— no, she was a Trumper. And she— her daughter, they saw things differently, you know, which happened.
00:42:03
Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
00:42:04
Speaker 4: And her daughter was— was pretty much against everything her mother voted for. But, you know, it's a tragic situation. I mean, I don't know whether to feel sorry for this woman or not, James. I don't know. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, look, she lost– in one instance we can feel sorry because she lost a daughter, period. That woman was executed. She was trying to turn away from the officer.
00:42:32
Speaker 12: Executed.
00:42:34
Speaker 4: And again, no, when she shot, she was called the B word afterwards, after the guy shot her.
00:42:40
Speaker 10: I mean, she was trying to turn away from him. Everybody saw that.
00:42:45
Speaker 4: I mean, it's happening all over. You see what happened in Texas, I think it was yesterday or the day before.
00:42:51
Speaker 3: And you can see the bullet. You can still see the bullet in his back that was bleeding out.
00:42:56
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:42:57
Speaker 3: I mean, it's all kinds of disease.
00:42:59
Speaker 4: They have no control. They're out of control.
00:43:02
Speaker 8: Yeah.
00:43:03
Speaker 10: And they've got a whole bunch of money and they're just doing whatever they want. They're not following due process in there, you know, not following the Constitution as far as I'm concerned. But that's why the election matters starting in Indiana, October 6th for early voting.
00:43:23
Speaker 8: Yeah.
00:43:23
Speaker 4: So, yeah. So I'm just going to say that people get out and vote. Now, this woman, she voted, you know, she said she's a diehard Trump supporter. Not anymore, but she was. And she thought, you know, she thought they were coming after somebody else, but then it ended up on her front door.
00:43:44
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:43:45
Speaker 3: That's the story a lot of Americans are telling right about now.
00:43:49
Speaker 4: So all you farmers out there, I'm glad Diesel's knocking you out. I'm glad of it. You farmers, because, you know, you chose hate and bigotry over your own best interest. You know, I'm sorry, James. I don't feel sorry for some of these people.
00:44:04
Speaker 10: I really don't.
00:44:05
Speaker 4: I don't care. You can call me cold-hearted, whatever. But, you know, when you vote against When your racism clouds your judgment and you vote against your own best interest, why should I feel sorry for you? He told you what he was going to do. Now he's doing it. So that's okay. But I said it. I ain't taking it back. But Renee Good is a hero. From my point of view, I don't have a lot of respect for her mother. I'm sorry.
00:44:34
Speaker 5: That's cold-hearted.
00:44:35
Speaker 4: But I'm a big boy. I can take it, you know, so. You know, people, they vote for hatred. It's called karma. It's called karma. Yeah.
00:44:47
Speaker 3: Okay, well, that's an opinion. It's interesting.
00:44:50
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, this woman went before Congress, talking about how she was all for Trump, and it cost her her daughter's life.
00:44:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet that fell on deaf ears.
00:45:01
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:45:02
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, a lot of people probably regret their vote, and because you don't feel sorry for them doesn't take away the fact that they regret it. And I think they're going to have another... But no, but the rest of us got to suffer for it.
00:45:14
Speaker 4: What? The rest of us got to suffer for it. Well, we can do something about that. I mean, something comes with life, but we can do something about it, Jeff. I'm going to vote.
00:45:25
Speaker 10: I was going to say, on October 17th, too, there's going to be another No Kings Day across the country. And you're talking about implementing martial law two days before the election. That's... That's the word, isn't it? He's capable of trying anything. That's why we have to stay on our toes.
00:45:43
Speaker 3: So, James, what could we do if he just arbitrarily implements martial law? Is there anything that could override that or check on that?
00:45:54
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:45:54
Speaker 3: Constitutionally.
00:45:58
Speaker 10: They can– I mean he can try to implement martial law, but they can take him to court on that. You can take somebody to court on anything because it's three co-equal branches of government, legislative, executive, and judicial. And judicial– the judicial branch is the arbitrator of the law. They determine what the law is. So he has power, just like he tried to hold those– like they had a state dinner last night in Washington with President Xi of China. And although he had– his people had said in court earlier in the day when the judge– gave the order for the reporters from CNN, MSNOW, and Politico to be allowed back in the White House, they said, yeah, yeah, they went along with it. When the reporters got there that night from CNN and MSNOW, they wouldn't allow them in. So technically he was– they were disobeying court orders. So what they could have done– He's a criminal.
00:47:02
Speaker 4: He's back from a criminal.
00:47:04
Speaker 10: I mean, he just dodges around everything because if they wouldn't have let him back in this morning, which they did, they relented, but he was playing games, they could have held him in, not him, not the president, but his chief of staff, his... Also... Chung, was that Stephen Chung, his communications director, the people that were named in that suit could have been held in contempt. So they quickly– but they're just playing games. What they can do, Tina, you can try to do martial law, but at the end of the day, if people disobey unlawful laws, edicts, and executive orders, they can be held account for.
00:47:47
Speaker 3: Well, here's the problem, though. This is the thing, and timing is being used strategically because, as Jeff said, two days before the election declaring martial law, I understand what you're saying, but how long does it take for things to work their way through the court? And two days before the election, declaring martial law, regardless of how much it's challenged or what have you, the damage can be done, and it could be months before that challenge is even heard or what have you. And so they're, you.
00:48:18
Speaker 4: Know— No, I mean, they can get an order immediately.
00:48:21
Speaker 3: They can get an immediate injunction?
00:48:23
Speaker 10: Yeah, an immediate injunction immediately. And then it's up to the administration to try.
00:48:28
Speaker 4: To appeal that.
00:48:29
Speaker 10: And they know they would be on shaky grounds. And so as to whether the appeals court and then the Supreme Court. would uphold that, would uphold their martial law, that's another thing. I mean, I don't think they would if it goes against the Constitution. So he knows he.
00:48:45
Speaker 4: Just pushes as far as he can. And just like he did today, he let those reporters back in. When it comes to his people going to jail, he's not going to do it. So, you know, let him go ahead and try. He's not going to stop this election, but he thinks he, you know, he'll do anything he can to try to make people like us, we're talking about it, A fearful, worried, you know, whatever bad scenario in our mind, have bad dreams or whatever. But I'm not going to fall for it.
00:49:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and I get that. And like I said, there's genuine fear all the way around within that administration because if both houses are taken, the Senate and the House of Representatives, you've got the one-two punch as far as carrying out the full measure of what an impeachment is. I mean, you know, the house files the charges and, uh, you know, the house can file the charges, which is the actual impeachment. And then the Senate, um, can, you know, get him out of office, which is the, the removal. So that, and that can be done.
00:49:48
Speaker 8: Yeah.
00:49:48
Speaker 3: Which yes. And that can be done with the simple, and he would have nothing, uh, legally to stand on to, to stop that. So, There's a real concern and a desperation, you know, to.
00:50:00
Speaker 10: He's desperate, yeah. We don't know what he's going to do. He may, if the elections go the way that they're predicting, that they're just going to really, really sweep everything and really put them in the minority where he has very limited power, he may resign and let Vance take over.
00:50:18
Speaker 4: I wasn't going.
00:50:18
Speaker 9: To say anything, but— I don't think he's going to resign.
00:50:24
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no.
00:50:26
Speaker 7: I wouldn't think so.
00:50:27
Speaker 6: No.
00:50:28
Speaker 7: That might be wishful thinking.
00:50:30
Speaker 3: That would be logical. But I don't think that's going to happen. But if he were going to resign, he should have resigned.
00:50:36
Speaker 4: No, I don't.
00:50:37
Speaker 3: I mean, James, you could be completely right, and Eric and I could be completely wrong, but nothing leading up to this moment has given me any indication. You're right. He could resign.
00:50:48
Speaker 7: He could.
00:50:49
Speaker 3: I'm not going to. Yeah. He could resign.
00:50:51
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:50:52
Speaker 7: I don't think he will. I don't think he would.
00:50:53
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:50:54
Speaker 3: That just doesn't seem to be part of the plan. It just does. The plan is to stay in office as you know, until you until you decide you're ready to leave.
00:51:03
Speaker 4: You know.
00:51:04
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:51:05
Speaker 3: But not now. He's no he's not Richard Nixon.
00:51:08
Speaker 10: So I'm just saying there's no telling what he will do.
00:51:13
Speaker 7: Just well, that is true.
00:51:14
Speaker 2: Just.
00:51:15
Speaker 10: He's just so unpredictable, and that's part of his problem.
00:51:18
Speaker 3: That's true. Now, if you listen to the raging Cajun Democratic strategist James Carville, he seems to think that after he loses so much, he may just walk away. Carville seems to think that he's going to just quit and blame everybody else if it gets to be that bad. I don't really see that. I don't know.
00:51:39
Speaker 4: I don't know.
00:51:41
Speaker 3: We'll have to see. We'll have to see. I don't trust the polls either. So, I mean, it could be people are saying something and then when push comes to shove, they may go back to what's comfortable if they get out and vote. And Republicans may say, well, You know, let's let's give this Republican thing one more chance. I don't know.
00:52:02
Speaker 10: And then we got October coming up.
00:52:03
Speaker 4: There's always an October surprise.
00:52:05
Speaker 10: You know what I mean?
00:52:06
Speaker 4: There's always an October surprise. So we got many days left. We need to stay vigilant, you know, awake and wide eyed. And like you say, have a plan to to carry out your constitutional duty, which is to vote.
00:52:21
Speaker 5: Yep, indeed.
00:52:22
Speaker 3: Hey, we're going to take a, we still got phone calls, 317-480-1310. Lines are open for whatever's on your mind. Stay with us. We'll be right back.
00:53:03
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00:53:29
Speaker 3: And we're back. So, James, what do you think about that intro? What do you think about that one?
00:53:34
Speaker 4: Wait, that goes back to the other one, doesn't it?
00:53:37
Speaker 3: That's the one we had before. Well, that's the one before the one we had before.
00:53:42
Speaker 5: Okay. Right, right. The one before the one before.
00:53:47
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
00:53:47
Speaker 4: I like Awesome and Amazing a little bit better than that one.
00:53:51
Speaker 5: Ah, mm-hmm.
00:53:52
Speaker 4: You know who Awesome and Amazing is? Your grandson.
00:53:54
Speaker 7: No, I think he's got a little bit better.
00:53:56
Speaker 8: His pick.
00:53:57
Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
00:53:57
Speaker 4: Yep.
00:53:57
Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
00:53:59
Speaker 6: See?
00:53:59
Speaker 10: Yeah, I like the one with the current one a little bit better than that one.
00:54:03
Speaker 4: Uh-huh. Okay. All right.
00:54:05
Speaker 3: Well, we'll go with that. We'll go with that. 317-480-1310. 317-480-1310. Open lines. Open lines. Open lines. We can review anything that we may have missed this week, anything on your mind. Now's the time. This is the show. We do this on Fridays.
00:54:22
Speaker 6: So, yeah, 317-480-1310.
00:54:22
Speaker 3: We have Diana. Diana, go ahead. How are you?
00:54:29
Speaker 6: All right. Can you hear me?
00:54:31
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I can hear you. Okay.
00:54:35
Speaker 6: This is a hot-button issue for me. I just got my SNP ballot to mail in, and I'm holding it because what I want to talk about, I will have them send me another one and take off who I voted for. It's about the mental health and homelessness here in Indianapolis. It is ridiculous. I have a dear friend that's going through hell right now. She has an adult son who is mentally ill and has committed a heinous crime. But nobody's doing anything as far as the powers that be to help him. I mean, he's just languishing in jail. And I was told that basically, especially downtown, they're just trying to clean up all the homeless people and throw them in jail. And that's ridiculous, and it has to stop. All these rich people here, they get what they want, and they treat the homeless and the mentally ill like cattle. I know they've got empty school buildings. They can use those and create spaces for mental health and homeless people separate, but have places for them to stay. And my friend's son, who's done this heinous crime, I just want to cry out for him. He's not getting his medication. He's an adult. I know they can't force him. But it has to be something that somebody can do to help. They've got to mix up with the general population. And that's another crime waiting to happen. And there was a TV personality that My friend reached out to three different ways and didn't get any answers at all. I know this person is just one person, but they need to do something. Get a team of people on it. Okay, this is the perfect time. The election is coming up, primary. And I'm going to hold this ballot. And I'm not turning it in yet because I want to know whose head needs to roll to take this seriously. It is horrible. And there's nobody to turn to. And he could die, even though he committed a heinous crime. He's mentally ill. And I don't even know if they've tested him, they recognize that he has this issue or not. I don't know. But there has to be something done.
00:57:14
Speaker 3: Where is he? Is he incarcerated with the state or is he still at the county jail?
00:57:21
Speaker 6: As far as I know, he's still at the county jail. His trial was supposed to happen today. a few weeks ago, for whatever reason. I guess they've postponed it. I don't know what they're doing. Her clergy person was trying to get to see him. They gave her the wrong information. And they won't even let his mother see him. She signed, and it was pitiful.
00:57:47
Speaker 3: It's horrible. Does he have an attorney? Is he represented by a public defender or counsel or somebody that could.
00:57:53
Speaker 6: Probably a public defender.
00:57:55
Speaker 3: Okay, well, then... that would be, I would think, the first, you know, the first layer of defense, your attorney. I know public defense. I don't know. So what is it that you're, what is it that you're trying to, are you trying to get him declared, you know, get him help for his mental illness, get him his medication?
00:58:17
Speaker 6: Get him declared, yes, mentally ill.
00:58:20
Speaker 3: So he has not been declared mentally ill?
00:58:23
Speaker 6: That I don't know. I just, It was a long time. I found out a while ago and I didn't want to broach her with that because I knew that she was just very fragile and I didn't want to break her. But she talked to me about it.
00:58:38
Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is if he's on medication and he's been under the care of a doctor and it has been determined that he is is mentally ill, shouldn't that information be made available to his attorney or does it does his attorney have that?
00:58:52
Speaker 6: Apparently, a group of them, including his mother, went to court for the pretrial, and they tried to let that be known. There were people there to give statements about that he was a very nice person. It is not him.
00:59:09
Speaker 12: It's his mother.
00:59:10
Speaker 4: Illness.
00:59:11
Speaker 3: I understand that. But if it is his mental illness, he needs documentation there to secure that. He needs— and James and Eric, if I'm—you know, that has to be documented for them to be able to act on it. Okay, do they have the documentation, even the medication that he's on, that he's being medicated for some form of psychosis, therefore there is a mental illness, and here's the record, okay? Is that available?
00:59:43
Speaker 6: Now, that's what I'm saying. Those are things that I don't really know, because talking to her, I had to talk to her, you know, gently.
00:59:52
Speaker 4: I understand.
00:59:53
Speaker 6: And I just... I cried for her. I think I was more of a mess when I talked to her than he was because I know him. Yeah.
01:00:01
Speaker 3: I know him. But you know what? And as sad and as horrible as it is, unfortunately, there's a process, right? And I mean, I understand that you're outpouring and you're right in everything that you're saying. It's heartbreaking, what have you. But if he is to get the help and get the proper help, he needs a paper trail. It has to be documented. in some way, shape, or form that I would think. And James, you're saying, hmm, am I.
01:00:27
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, what.
01:00:29
Speaker 10: I'm saying, and I didn't want to, you know, cover you.
01:00:32
Speaker 8: Up or cut you off.
01:00:33
Speaker 3: No, no, no, go ahead. Please, go ahead.
01:00:35
Speaker 4: But my question to the caller, and what was her name again, Tina?
01:00:40
Speaker 6: Diana, Diana.
01:00:42
Speaker 10: Diana, Diana, my question to you is, because people listening, or they just turned on the radio, this person, your friend's son, Did you say he killed someone or is he suspected of killing someone? Yes, he did.
01:00:54
Speaker 4: All right. All right. That's what I thought I heard. So I would like to know where that happened, when it happened, how it happened.
01:01:03
Speaker 2: And.
01:01:05
Speaker 4: Was he, you know, was he off his medication, on his medication? There's a lot.
01:01:11
Speaker 10: I mean, there's a defense for that, for criminally insane acts or acts of criminally insane or the insane criminal acts of the insane. But I'd have to have a lot more details before I could.
01:01:25
Speaker 4: And yes.
01:01:25
Speaker 3: Who are you going to lay?
01:01:27
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:01:28
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:01:28
Speaker 10: The homeless problem is a problem. You know, because a guy came up to me this morning wanting money. But I'm like, should I give him money because... You know, the Bible says don't give them fish, but teach them how to fish. Should I give them money?
01:01:43
Speaker 4: And I've helped plenty of poor, plenty of hungry. Don't get me wrong.
01:01:47
Speaker 10: But should we, is that going to encourage the behavior, or should we be trying to find them a place to live, trying to find them some food, go and buy them some food, and then getting them into, who did we have on Tina? Larry Smith, wasn't that Minister Smith with the inaugural fatherhood conference coming up on October 7th? And he talked about that most of his clients were men. A lot of them had gotten out of prison. And many of them had these problems where they had been on drugs. And their income was $ 10, 000. So we have this problem.
01:02:24
Speaker 4: But, Ms.
01:02:25
Speaker 10: Diana, there are underlying reasons for why they are in the situation that they are in, in my view. And that needs to be explored.
01:02:35
Speaker 6: But he was homeless, jobless. And, you know, with a lot of the mentally ill, you can't make them take the medication.
01:02:43
Speaker 3: But you have to establish the mental illness if that's going to be a defense. That's what I'm saying.
01:02:48
Speaker 6: I don't even see that. That's all I can say.
01:02:52
Speaker 3: Well, then that's the first. Saying that he's mentally and everything in between and, you know, being accused of homicide or murder, you know, what have you. Those are all. But as James says, a mental illness can be a mitigator. that can get some help that he needs or what have you. But if you haven't established it and you can't prove it, what, you know, saying it is not going to, you know, that, and it may be as simple as tracing that one medication.
01:03:22
Speaker 6: Right.
01:03:24
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm like, James, there's so much more here that, that we don't know or what have you. But I would think that his attorney in terms of his defense, uh, If the attorney has that, that would be one of the mitigators that you would argue in court.
01:03:40
Speaker 12: Right.
01:03:40
Speaker 6: And, Ms.
01:03:40
Speaker 4: Diana, what do you want the people to do? Yeah.
01:03:43
Speaker 10: Yeah, what do you want the people to do?
01:03:44
Speaker 6: Okay.
01:03:44
Speaker 4: What do you want.
01:03:47
Speaker 6: The people to do about mental illness and homelessness? What do you want people to do about that? open up these places that are abandoned you know get the staff i don't care get have the government they got money get the government to open these places up have somebody to supervise them yes i know decades ago we had central state i understand there were underlying conditions as to why they closed it down well.
01:04:21
Speaker 3: Money yeah my funding was cut yeah simple.
01:04:23
Speaker 6: Right because of things that internally happen that I don't want to really come out and say. I'm sure that you probably know the story.
01:04:32
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. Is his mother or his family asking you for help and you're trying to gather resources or you're just trying to gather resources to help them?
01:04:43
Speaker 6: I'm a fixer. I'm just a Budinsky.
01:04:47
Speaker 12: I love her.
01:04:47
Speaker 6: She is one of my best friends and I'm worried about her. She's had a lot on her and You know, he's like saying if they kill him, you might as well kill her. I hate that. I don't want to even think about that.
01:05:02
Speaker 3: No, no, nobody does. Nobody does. But yeah, here's I think one of the things you can help with is gently introduce that, that, you know, that that has to be included somehow in all of this. whatever the medication.
01:05:20
Speaker 6: She has done that. Like I said, I can't tell you definitively that she has not done that already. But she's like spinning her wheels. She called the well-known commentator that used to call for help, okay? She tried three different ways to reach out to him. He didn't respond. Now, I know he's just one person. I don't know if the staff, they aren't good enough to send the messages to him, but he would be a great source. And I'm just, that's what I'm saying. Is there not some source or sources that could, you know, in a seat for her.
01:05:57
Speaker 3: Get, you know, okay, let me, let me, let me give you the number. There's the free legal, legal clinics. Is this is a legal matter? You know, the, you know, because a crime is involved, this is an extremely complex legal matter and that's where it's going to have to start. And so there are free legal services that are available. And the Christian Legal Clinic, let's see, legal, legal, let me see. I tell you what, why don't you stay? I'm going to get to some other calls. Stay right there. And I'm going to give this information to, well, no, wait a minute. Let me see if I can get it here. It might work. Whenever I need something to come up quickly, it just doesn't.
01:06:39
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got it. Neighborhood Christian Legal Clinic. I got it, Tina.
01:06:42
Speaker 3: Here we go. Free legal services.
01:06:44
Speaker 1: Yes.
01:06:44
Speaker 4: Okay. Yeah.
01:06:45
Speaker 5: 317.
01:06:46
Speaker 4: It's Neighborhood Christian Legal Clinic. Is that what you want, Tina?
01:06:51
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:06:52
Speaker 3: Well, actually, there's Indiana Legal Services, Neighborhood Christian Legal Clinic, the Legal Aid Society, and the Indiana Bar Association. So all of those.
01:07:02
Speaker 10: I have the number for the Neighborhood Christian Legal Clinic.
01:07:05
Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead. Yeah, that one you can give her.
01:07:07
Speaker 6: What is that number? 317-429-4131.
01:07:08
Speaker 4: Yeah. Let me read that back.
01:07:10
Speaker 2: 317-429-4131. Mm-hmm.
01:07:11
Speaker 4: Correct.
01:07:11
Speaker 8: Yes.
01:07:11
Speaker 4: All right. And here's another one.
01:07:13
Speaker 10: The Indianapolis Legal Aid Society, again, free legal.
01:07:16
Speaker 4: Counseling and legal aid.
01:07:32
Speaker 3: 317-635-9538. 317-635-9538. Okay? And you know.
01:07:44
Speaker 1: What?
01:07:44
Speaker 3: Be sure if they can't help, ask them who they can direct you to. Because a lot of times it may be out of somebody's purview. It may be, you know, well, we do criminal or we don't do criminal, whatever. But they can direct you to who you need to go to. So don't let them just say that's not what we do. Ask them, well, who should I ask? And, yeah, okay, and all the best to you. I'm so sorry to hear. That's heartbreaking indeed.
01:08:10
Speaker 4: Thank you, Diana.
01:08:11
Speaker 3: All right, thank you, Diana.
01:08:12
Speaker 6: Thank you for listening.
01:08:13
Speaker 3: Appreciate it. Appreciate it, appreciate it. But, yeah, that's a toughie. That is a toughie.
01:08:18
Speaker 4: That's a toughie. He's got a mental, you know, illness or a mental illness battle history. That needs to be, you know, brought out and figure out where he was when he did what he did in his right mind.
01:08:31
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:08:32
Speaker 3: Well, we've got Kim Boyd who called in, you know, our community superstar, the community queen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kim Boyd. She has some information on the follow-up on that. Hey, Kim, how are you?
01:08:44
Speaker 4: Okay.
01:08:45
Speaker 6: How you doing, James and Tina?
01:08:47
Speaker 4: Hey, Kim.
01:08:47
Speaker 3: Doing good. You're the person we need to talk to. We should have.
01:08:50
Speaker 7: Said call Kim Boyd.
01:08:52
Speaker 6: Yeah, call Kim.
01:08:52
Speaker 3: I didn't even think about it. I need to put Kim's name in those.
01:08:55
Speaker 4: Free legal services.
01:08:56
Speaker 13: There we go.
01:08:56
Speaker 2: Yes.
01:09:00
Speaker 6: You guys are too kind. But let me say to the lady that you just hung up on the call with, I.
01:09:07
Speaker 12: Feel for her.
01:09:09
Speaker 6: You know, she started off talking about her absentee ballot. She's exactly right that whoever is going to be in leadership positions We need to have these issues addressed, in particular for the homelessness and the mental health, and not by lip service but by action. But when I was at the MLK Center, there was a client that I was working with, the family, and he had been diagnosed schizophrenic. And they got into a domestic situation. Unfortunately, he was arrested. And so with that, he was on medication. And what I had to do, and this is what I'm suggesting the lady to do. And this is where, you know, it's going to have to put in that energy. Because some of these case managers nowadays, they're just not doing it. They'll see your resource, but they're not really putting that energy into it that this lady needs. And it's hurting her friend and her son. But I went to the chaplain. At the lockup downtown where he was. And I got the chaplain to get to him and the administration at lockup so that he could get his medication. And it took a coordination with his doctor to confirm the diagnosis, the need for the medication. But he caught a case while we were trying to do that. He caught another case. But she's exactly right. When you put mental health individuals in general populations and you don't, you know, segue them or either the facilities are not identifying, you know, those addictions or that mental health, then nine times out of 10, they wind up catching another case while they're in there, which is insult to injury. So if she can try to work with the chaplain.
01:11:10
Speaker 3: That's a great idea.
01:11:11
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
01:11:13
Speaker 6: And had that chaplain be an intermediary. so that maybe he can get his medication if he is diagnosed and prescribed. And so that will hopefully lessen him catching another case while he's in there because he's off his medication, if on any, and he's not functioning in his right mind.
01:11:35
Speaker 3: And create a paper trail that's necessary for going forward because that paper is what they look at. They look at that for everything. And if you've got a record... like you said, with the chaplain and getting his men, that would help tremendously, would it not?
01:11:50
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:11:51
Speaker 10: And if Diana is still listening, Kim, I know you don't have this. I'm going to ask you anyway. A number that they.
01:11:58
Speaker 4: Should call to try to talk to the chaplain at the lockup, the Marion County jail lockup. I know you don't have that, buddy. They should be able to call the facility. and then ask them the name or names of the chaplain and then have the chaplain intervene. That's the most immediate response to you. Because that's what I did. I wound up doing that.
01:12:26
Speaker 3: And they keep chaplains on staff 24-7, right?
01:12:31
Speaker 6: They typically do.
01:12:32
Speaker 12: Okay, typically.
01:12:34
Speaker 3: I like that.
01:12:34
Speaker 6: The other thing is that I heard her say about his court case didn't occur when it was dated to occur.
01:12:43
Speaker 4: Yeah, she said it was postponed, continued.
01:12:48
Speaker 5: Right.
01:12:49
Speaker 6: But there is a mental health court that she needs to be aware of. And that puts it on a totally different trajectory than just criminal courts. Just like they have a veteran court that some people don't know about, but it's on the South Side as well because I worked with a lot of veterans and I would go to court with them on their cases. But there's a mental health court, and if whoever that public defender or the legal resources that you guys just supplied to her, if she can put in that request, because that's a whole other— it should be a whole other different perspective focusing not so much on the criminal behavior— but the mental health condition that caused the criminal behavior.
01:13:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's what's needed.
01:13:42
Speaker 4: Mental health court.
01:13:44
Speaker 3: I did not know about that. Mental health court and veterans court in addition to criminal court.
01:13:49
Speaker 10: Diane, if you're listening, mental health court. Ask the legal people about mental health court.
01:13:54
Speaker 3: And I think that's something you can share gently with her mother without prying too much because I know Diana said she didn't want to really pry. The mother's very vulnerable, so maybe making that suggestion as opposed to asking a question about, you know, details that might be just too painful. So that, yeah, that's great.
01:14:12
Speaker 6: That lady was in a lot of pain.
01:14:15
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:14:15
Speaker 6: And then the last one I want to give you, it's a more broader scale, but they do have an office here in Indianapolis that she can try to reach out to, is NAMI.
01:14:27
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:14:29
Speaker 12: Yeah.
01:14:30
Speaker 6: Just for maybe some counseling direction and advice regarding the mental health.
01:14:37
Speaker 3: Now, do they do counseling in the county jail, NAMI?
01:14:42
Speaker 6: You know, that's a good question, Tina. I'm not quite for certain.
01:14:45
Speaker 3: NAMI, National Association of Mental Illness.
01:14:51
Speaker 6: But that definitely, Tina, could be a question that when she calls the chaplain at the facility that he's at, And also as are there, you know, counselors from maybe NAMI or some other organization, you know, that can kind of go visit him, you know, talk with him and make those segues of, you know, while he's incarcerated for that mental health.
01:15:18
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:15:19
Speaker 6: But I feel for that lady. I had to call Tina.
01:15:22
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm glad you did. I mean, that's a lot of pain.
01:15:25
Speaker 10: Because you are a wealth of information, Kim.
01:15:28
Speaker 3: Kim, thank you so much.
01:15:29
Speaker 5: You are just a wealth of information.
01:15:31
Speaker 7: Absolutely.
01:15:32
Speaker 3: All righty, Kim. Well, we've got it all written down. And I've got the mental notes and the physical notes. And I even put it in my phone.
01:15:39
Speaker 6: And Tina, let me talk to you about, just real quickly, I'm just going to mention it. But a personal battle I'm going through, but many others are as well. And that is people being able to get opportunities to get financial repairs for staying in place in their home. And these places like Habitat, Home for Good, HUD, all these agencies, none of them, either it's boundaries by geographics or they ran out of money. And people need this help. If they're fighting for food, how are they going to pay a contractor to come in, thousands of dollars, and there's no assistance or funding? And if you want homeowners to stay as homeowners, then there needs to be either the city needs to allocate some money, the state needs to allocate some money for these repairs to be able for not only myself but other people as well. And it's a very serious situation. You know, when people are on fixed incomes, and I don't care what age it is, on fixed incomes and you can't get help.
01:16:57
Speaker 10: Are you talking about Section 8 people? Who exactly are you talking about, Kim, that needs this help?
01:17:03
Speaker 6: I'm talking about people that have been working, are working, retired, seniors that need home repairs so they can stay in their home.
01:17:16
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:17:18
Speaker 3: I see the commercials and hear the commercials for those services all the time.
01:17:22
Speaker 6: Don't buy all of that because they're not all living up to what.
01:17:27
Speaker 3: I see what you're saying. They're not living up to it. They need to pull them.
01:17:30
Speaker 6: Even the city has a program, but they do a 30-year lien on your mortgage.
01:17:36
Speaker 3: Oh, my.
01:17:37
Speaker 6: Why would you do that?
01:17:38
Speaker 3: That needs to be changed. Yeah, that's not helping at all.
01:17:44
Speaker 4: Kim, the whole focus....
01:17:47
Speaker 10: Of government right now is not to help people. And that comes from the very top.
01:17:53
Speaker 13: You know, the.
01:17:54
Speaker 4: Programs that I mean, there were plenty of programs back in the day.
01:17:57
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:17:57
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:17:58
Speaker 10: And enrich themselves, frankly.
01:18:01
Speaker 3: Yeah. That's where the money's got to go. I'm taking it away from you so I can have it. Me or my friends.
01:18:06
Speaker 6: There's a lot of people that are out here suffering and creating bills, put them in further in poverty, even if they got the credit to get them. a loan to get the repairs. But there's no reason why with all these buildings you see around this city growing up, and just like with the homelessness issue, somebody got some money in this city. But the question is, are the people that need the funds, and I'm not talking about the wants, I'm talking about the needs.
01:18:33
Speaker 3: Not wants versus needs, yeah. Is it too much, Kim, to ask you as congressman or your congressional representatives?
01:18:42
Speaker 6: You already know, Tina, I've been there, done that.
01:18:45
Speaker 4: Okay.
01:18:45
Speaker 6: And that's why I'm advocating you know, for those people that are in position and power to create and advocate for, you know, funnels of funding that can help people to stay in their home. Yeah. They shouldn't have to go out to get these outrageous loans from these outrageous, some of them, contractors that charge you arm and a leg, people should be able to stay in their home.
01:19:14
Speaker 4: With some dignity.
01:19:15
Speaker 3: That's true. That's true.
01:19:16
Speaker 4: Yeah. And we have to get back to that. We have to get back to that mission.
01:19:19
Speaker 6: Because I'm going through that right now.
01:19:21
Speaker 4: Right now.
01:19:22
Speaker 6: Mm. Yeah.
01:19:23
Speaker 4: All right.
01:19:23
Speaker 3: Well, Kim, thank you for that reminder as well. You know, and again, elections have consequences. Get somebody in office that can take care of or at least lend a sympathetic ear that can try to right some of these wrongs because, you know, the ship has to be corrected. You know, you have to right the ship.
01:19:43
Speaker 5: You can't keep taking away.
01:19:44
Speaker 4: It's absolutely critical.
01:19:46
Speaker 6: It's time out for lip service. It's time out for lip service. It's time for people. to feel like they do have people that represent him and their life is moving forward.
01:19:56
Speaker 3: Exactly. All right, Kim, thank you so much. And as always, we appreciate you. Kim Boyd, indeed. Thank you.
01:20:04
Speaker 4: Thank you both.
01:20:05
Speaker 3: Thank you both. Bob's been waiting for a second here, Eric, so let's go to Bob. Go ahead, Bob.
01:20:11
Speaker 5: I just feel like crying, Sister Tina and your listeners, but listen. She's absolutely right. You're all right. We got a serious problem. But another problem that's going on that people ain't talking about is the mental care situation between Eskenazi and community hospitals has merged. And you got a lot of patients that are losing case managers, that are losing doctors, and somebody's going to be overwhelmed. I got a son going through it right now. The doctor's not coming in and he's dealing with probation and dealing with other issues with schizophrenic, but he's got his medicine. But the other help that he needs, don't nobody know which way to go. And this happened to take over happened like maybe a week or two weeks ago.
01:21:07
Speaker 8: But Dr.
01:21:07
Speaker 5: Virginia came to say nothing about that. But it's hospital corporation, vice versa. But it is a mess.
01:21:15
Speaker 12: Hmm.
01:21:16
Speaker 5: And they suppose, as far as I understand, Eskenazi is supposed to be taking over all of the mental health in the state versus, says our governor. That's the stuff you don't hear in the back room.
01:21:29
Speaker 4: Bob, what's been the major impact or impacts from this merger between Eskenazi Hospital and community hospitals? The service, which you just talked about, the case managers in the service. They are overwhelmed, and they can't keep up trying to get them into the Eskenazi system. And the other case managers that was working with the community, I'm sure they wouldn't offer the job.
01:21:58
Speaker 5: And the doctors. And a lot of doctors are not going to move over to the Eskenazi's insurance. So he's looking for a doctor, and he goes to the John Polly Center, which is part of that. And the doctor ain't been there.
01:22:15
Speaker 4: Just the nurse.
01:22:16
Speaker 5: She said, ain't nothing we can do. And it's bad.
01:22:21
Speaker 10: So a lot of times the mergers, the corporate mergers, which they sell as making the services more efficient, are really cutting people out of services. That's what you're telling me.
01:22:31
Speaker 5: Absolutely. Absolutely. The health that they are offering, that community is totally different than what Eskenazi is offering. Absolutely. And it's going to be a whole lot of them that's probably, some of them probably are homeless and some of them are not. But when you can't get your medicine and you lose, you don't feel like you're right. You can't call your case manager that you've been dealing with for five, six, or seven years. They're gone. Now you've got a new person. And it's wrong for the new case managers being thrown in this bucket. These are all young people you've got to deal with. That's not right. And they knew that going in.
01:23:09
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:23:11
Speaker 11: It didn't tell all employees.
01:23:13
Speaker 5: It did not tell all employees at community that they wasn't going to have jobs.
01:23:18
Speaker 3: How many times have we heard that story?
01:23:20
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:23:21
Speaker 3: You know, companies that don't do that.
01:23:22
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's... You come in and you can't log on. Or you can't.
01:23:27
Speaker 3: Even get in the door. Yeah, your key card doesn't work anymore.
01:23:29
Speaker 5: You can't even get in the door. I took him Monday. Eskenazi had the signs up and the.
01:23:35
Speaker 4: Doors were locked.
01:23:36
Speaker 5: I said, where's everybody? And they said, we... We waiting on Eskenazi to open the door. If we don't have keys, we can't let y'all in. And I said, okay, but, yeah, it's bad.
01:23:45
Speaker 3: You know what? Thank you, Bob. I want to find out a little bit more about that because the Sandra Eskenazi Mental Health Center merging with community hospital health care systems, mental health, I need to find out a lot more about that. Me too, Tina, because.
01:24:00
Speaker 10: That's the first I heard of it.
01:24:02
Speaker 3: That's the first I've heard of it, yes.
01:24:04
Speaker 7: Me too, the first I'd heard of that.
01:24:05
Speaker 3: Had not heard of that, so we need to find out more about that. Let's take a quick, yeah, quick break right here. We got several callers still on the line. And we also, as promised, we told you off the top of the show about the Indie Jazz Fest. Their finale is coming up tomorrow. Talking about a big weekend. Indie Jazz Fest coming up right after this. Plus your calls and questions and comments as well. We'll be right back. And we are back. We are back. And as promised, Indie Jazz Fest 2026 been underway, still underway and a big night tomorrow night. Rob Dixon with the Indianapolis Jazz Foundation is also with us to tell us more.
01:25:17
Speaker 6: Mr.
01:25:17
Speaker 3: Dixon, how are you?
01:25:19
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm doing great. How about you?
01:25:21
Speaker 3: I'm doing great. I'm doing great. So tell us about, this is a mainstay for the city of Indianapolis, the Jazz Fest. I mean, it's been around for a little while and it always delivers.
01:25:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been around since 1999 and, you know, it's changed different kind of stewardships and the Jazz Foundation has been involved since about 2009, but We're really excited about this year, and the grand finale is just going to be the best that it's ever been.
01:25:52
Speaker 3: So tell us about it. Tell us about this year, and tell us about the grand finale tomorrow, because it's always good to have people. have something to look forward to, you know, this coming weekend. This is great.
01:26:02
Speaker 12: Right.
01:26:03
Speaker 6: Right.
01:26:03
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
01:26:04
Speaker 2: So our grand finale, it'll be at the Indianapolis Art Center. So we'll have two stages, one at Opti Park, one on the grounds of the Indianapolis Art Center. The music starts at 1.30 tomorrow and goes all the way till 10. There'll be 10 bands, two stages. It's just, I mean, I just came from the grounds, and it's just going to be a party.
01:26:28
Speaker 4: We got Sheila E.
01:26:30
Speaker 2: That's going to headline it.
01:26:31
Speaker 3: Sheila E.
01:26:32
Speaker 7: Oh, Sheila E. is going to be there.
01:26:34
Speaker 3: The drummer.
01:26:36
Speaker 5: Yep.
01:26:36
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:26:37
Speaker 2: She's a drummer that played with Prince.
01:26:39
Speaker 6: Yes.
01:26:39
Speaker 3: Yes.
01:26:41
Speaker 4: Yep. We have Rick Braun.
01:26:43
Speaker 2: Rick Braun is doing a tribute to Chuck Mangione, and he was with Tina Turner for many years.
01:26:49
Speaker 4: We have a great.
01:26:50
Speaker 2: Saxophonist, Carl Denson in Tiny Universe. And Carl is an amazing talent. He usually also plays with the Rolling Stones. So he'll be on the main stage. We'll have Mono Neon Band's going.
01:27:05
Speaker 8: To be there.
01:27:07
Speaker 2: Charlie Hunter, Jeff Coffin from the Dave Matthews Band will be joining us. I'm going to jump up on the stage and do a set with Dave Stryker. I can tell you, it's just going to be a, it's going to be a party.
01:27:22
Speaker 3: So what, what, what's your musicianship?
01:27:24
Speaker 5: What do you do?
01:27:27
Speaker 3: I play the saxophone.
01:27:29
Speaker 8: Yes.
01:27:29
Speaker 2: And I just put out a record called Nap Town Soul.
01:27:32
Speaker 4: I'll have it.
01:27:32
Speaker 2: I'll have it there for sale.
01:27:34
Speaker 4: I have the vinyl and CD.
01:27:36
Speaker 2: So, or you can check it out on all streaming platforms as well. So, And that band will be performing, the one I recorded with.
01:27:44
Speaker 4: Congratulations. Yeah. Thank you.
01:27:47
Speaker 3: Congratulations. So how are we going to get everybody there? The information, tickets, what, you know, the who, all of it. You know, the who, what, when, why, all of it.
01:27:56
Speaker 4: All the information.
01:27:58
Speaker 2: We have a fantastic website, IndieJazzFest.net. You can see the complete lineup, who's playing when, where. We have an after set, and then you can see the ticket information, how to book. Purchase tickets right online, indyjazzfest.net.
01:28:12
Speaker 3: Oh, wow, wow. And the weather, from what I understand, tomorrow is going to be fantastic.
01:28:19
Speaker 2: We're going to have a fantastic day, and we're excited about it because I think it's, you know, I think this is the year that everything kind of came together as far as bringing a party to Indianapolis.
01:28:32
Speaker 8: I mean, the vibe, I mean, it.
01:28:34
Speaker 2: Just feels like it.
01:28:35
Speaker 14: It seems like we're gonna end with a big party and um if you and you know once he gets done at the main stage at 10 p.m if you if you want to still hear some music we'll be uh a turntable.
01:28:48
Speaker 2: Right next door to the vogue having the after set and a lot of the musicians that have played on those stages will be coming to do like a little jam.
01:28:56
Speaker 3: Session Yeah, Indianapolis has such a rich jazz history that so many folks just don't know, don't appreciate. I mean, you know, you hear a little here, a little there, but to appreciate it, you just, you know, something like this makes you really understand it.
01:29:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely. I think so, too.
01:29:12
Speaker 2: You know, one of the most iconic musicians in the jazz world, Wes Montgomery, you know, from Indianapolis, Not only was the premiere, the definition of jazz guitar kind of just started instrumental pop. I mean, you know, he signed that record with A & M years ago and basically created Herb Albert's career, created Global Washington's career, created Kenny G's career, Chuck Mangione's career.
01:29:41
Speaker 8: I mean, it was him.
01:29:44
Speaker 2: Who put those first instrumental jazz records and pop records out and went on the pop charts. Not only the jazz charts, but the pop charts. So we have just such a strong legacy of great jazz musicians here in Indianapolis. And we're celebrating a lot of the Indianapolis musicians at the festival, as well as bringing in some people from out of state and New York and L.A. and all that good stuff.
01:30:08
Speaker 3: What about one of your educators, David Baker?
01:30:12
Speaker 2: David Baker is.
01:30:13
Speaker 4: Dave Baker, yeah. He's the giant.
01:30:16
Speaker 2: He's the whale of jazz education of the world, you know? And he did a record... He did a lot of things with Wes Montgomery, you know, and we just have Freddie Hubbard, J.J. Johnson, James Spalding, you know, Sly Hampton, the Hampton family, the Hampton sisters.
01:30:34
Speaker 8: The list just.
01:30:34
Speaker 2: Goes on and on and on and on about how many people have.
01:30:38
Speaker 12: Made just, you know.
01:30:41
Speaker 2: Impacts to world culture that are from here, right here in Indianapolis.
01:30:46
Speaker 5: Mr.
01:30:46
Speaker 3: Dixon, thank you so much for coming on. The invitation is out there. You have invited the community to come out.
01:30:52
Speaker 6: Yes, please come out.
01:30:53
Speaker 4: Please come out.
01:30:54
Speaker 2: IndieJazzFest.net. You'll find out all the information. We're going to have a great time. Music starts at 1.30. We go until 10 p.m.
01:31:01
Speaker 3: All right. Enjoy yourself. Thank you for coming on and sharing that with us. Appreciate it.
01:31:06
Speaker 8: Thank you.
01:31:07
Speaker 2: Indeed.
01:31:07
Speaker 1: All right.
01:31:08
Speaker 3: Saxophonist. Saxophone is Mr.
01:31:10
Speaker 8: Dixon.
01:31:11
Speaker 7: One of my favorite instruments, saxophone.
01:31:12
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:31:13
Speaker 3: They say that's one of the sexiest instruments around.
01:31:15
Speaker 7: That's what I've heard.
01:31:15
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:31:16
Speaker 7: I've heard that. It's my favorite. Didn't play that. I played drums, but saxophone. I played the flute. Played the flute. I played flute, too.
01:31:22
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:31:24
Speaker 7: I did the flute.
01:31:25
Speaker 3: Not that you ever do any piccolo.
01:31:27
Speaker 7: No, I did not.
01:31:28
Speaker 5: I didn't.
01:31:28
Speaker 8: No.
01:31:29
Speaker 3: James, you ever play an instrument?
01:31:31
Speaker 4: Yeah. Baritone.
01:31:33
Speaker 7: Baritone. Mm-hmm.
01:31:35
Speaker 4: Yeah, baritone. You know, and I'm glad that Mr. Dixon came on because I was going to ask him, but he got away.
01:31:43
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
01:31:44
Speaker 10: No, no, no, no.
01:31:47
Speaker 4: Because my friend, you know, Alita Hodge, she wrote a book about that, including, you know, David Baker, Wes Montgomery, and the Hampton Sisters all in her book. And she is going to be, I'm not trying to give her up, but she's going to be at the Indie Jazz Fest. Fest 2026, inside the Indie Arts Center for her book signing and greeting. So I was just wondering where the Indie Arts Center is. I was going to ask them in juxtaposition to where the Jazz Fest stages are going to be. So that's okay.
01:32:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Indie Arts Center is right off college, right around, that's where, you know, some of the flooding. 67th, I think.
01:32:28
Speaker 7: 67th and college, I believe.
01:32:29
Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
01:32:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, in fact, remember when the floods hit, they had to evacuate because they were having the Black Documentary Film Festival there.
01:32:35
Speaker 7: At the time.
01:32:37
Speaker 3: Yes, yes. It's 820-820 East 67th Street.
01:32:41
Speaker 8: Yeah.
01:32:41
Speaker 3: So right off 67th and College.
01:32:43
Speaker 7: The east of College.
01:32:45
Speaker 3: Just east of College.
01:32:46
Speaker 10: Yeah, so that's all in, you know, connection with the jazz.
01:32:50
Speaker 3: It's all of it. It's all of it.
01:32:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
01:32:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, James, next time just say, hey, hey, Tina, Tina. What do they do in the chats and Zoom meetings and stuff? You throw up your hand. You throw up your hand and go, hey. Hey, here we go. I got something to say. I got something to say, so next time let me know. But, yeah, I tell you what, if people can't find anything to do this weekend, they're not looking. I don't have anything to say.
01:33:12
Speaker 5: Nope.
01:33:13
Speaker 3: Tons of stuff to do. Too much. Indianapolis is alive and popping. Indeed, indeed.
01:33:18
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:33:19
Speaker 6: 317-480-1310, 317-480.
01:33:19
Speaker 3: Man, we've had a lot of great callers today. Yeah, we have. We really have. In fact, we've got some more that we want to get to because we don't want to leave anybody hanging. Okay. Brother Man, go ahead.
01:33:30
Speaker 8: How are you?
01:33:30
Speaker 4: Hey, Tina, James, and Eric. You guys got it.
01:33:36
Speaker 3: Thank you.
01:33:36
Speaker 1: Thank you.
01:33:37
Speaker 4: Hey, Brother Man, thank you. You're helping a lot of people. I just hope these people, if they don't vote, they're going to stay in the same position. It could get worse.
01:33:50
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:33:50
Speaker 3: Well, at least you'll be able, if you don't vote, I mean, if you do vote and it doesn't turn out the way you wanted it to, at least you'll be able to say something about it. Like, hey, I did my part, or I did something. Yeah. At least you have that. I know you're going to vote.
01:34:05
Speaker 10: As much as he encourages Tina every time he calls people to.
01:34:09
Speaker 4: Vote, vote, vote, vote. He always says that.
01:34:11
Speaker 13: Yeah.
01:34:14
Speaker 4: My first time in 1960 was for John F. Kennedy, if I ain't mistaken. What really made me vote was my grandmother and my uncles and aunties all talked about voting and made voters. And I had a pre-sent commitment. Hey, we worked on that trying to help each other. And these people nowadays don't seem like they're talking to their kids about their voting. That's the only way you're going to get ahead.
01:34:58
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:34:59
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to protect your rights.
01:35:01
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
01:35:02
Speaker 8: Yeah.
01:35:03
Speaker 3: Well, we all have to talk to each other. It's not just talking to our kids. We have to talk to each other.
01:35:07
Speaker 7: Communications is the key.
01:35:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, the key. I mean, yeah, our kids, that's certainly our responsibility. But, you know, I think a lot of times we forget just our peers, just each other.
01:35:17
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I hear what he's saying.
01:35:21
Speaker 6: I do, too.
01:35:22
Speaker 4: I was going to say, they tax us, and that's when we vote them out of there. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
01:35:30
Speaker 3: They act like it belongs to them, you know? Yeah. Like these offices and the money and everything, it's not theirs, it's ours.
01:35:37
Speaker 10: Each one of us needs to be responsible for bringing one person to the polls. And if it's a child, it's a child. But I think what Brother Man was trying to say is, although your point is well taken, Tina, about peers, you know, telling your friends or your associates or, you know, acquaintances, whatever.
01:35:53
Speaker 6: Did you vote?
01:35:54
Speaker 4: Did you vote?
01:35:54
Speaker 6: Did you vote?
01:35:55
Speaker 10: We're starting on... October 6th, did you vote? What he's saying is, you know, they ingrained it into us. Our parents are like, what?
01:36:04
Speaker 5: You didn't go to the polls?
01:36:06
Speaker 3: No, I agree. I'm saying in addition to, in addition to. I guess, but yes, it has to be part of your DNA, you know, coming up. You're not voting? You know, come with me.
01:36:18
Speaker 7: That's true.
01:36:20
Speaker 4: You got to remember, these people are not going to give us a way out unless we vote.
01:36:27
Speaker 8: Yep, there you go.
01:36:28
Speaker 4: We got a better chance at all those programs that I heard you guys talking about being cut or being just moved over.
01:36:39
Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
01:36:40
Speaker 4: Mm-hmm. Nothing got that sick, but, you know, if you don't give what you need as far as health is concerned, even my company, UAW... All the medicine I get is free.
01:36:58
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:36:58
Speaker 4: There you go. There you go.
01:37:02
Speaker 3: All right, brother man. You talk good talk. You talk good talk all the time, brother man. Thank you. Can we squeeze in one more? Yeah, we can.
01:37:11
Speaker 7: Yeah, we can.
01:37:12
Speaker 3: Sharon, quickly. Sharon, you've got about a minute.
01:37:16
Speaker 4: Okay, good afternoon, Tana.
01:37:17
Speaker 13: I just want to compliment. Compliment on the mental health crisis in our city. My niece went through the same thing those other colleagues that went through. And then the only time they spoke up and said anything was when a young man went and shot all those people at, I think it was FedEx. Then they were coming out to Woodworks on the radio talking about how many source resources was available. four people back then, but it was, and it still isn't. And the sad situation with my niece, even though he was going through the court, there were people that were willing to take him as a patient, and the courts wouldn't even allow him to go. So right now, he's diagnosed with schizophrenia. Right now, he's in a DOC because he got into a fight with a man.
01:38:05
Speaker 6: For four years.
01:38:07
Speaker 13: So it's really a crisis out here. Well, mental health is just, that was my opinion.
01:38:13
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe you.
01:38:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's statistics that are alarming that talk about the percentage of people who are incarcerated in state institutions, the percentage of those people who are incarcerated who have mental illness. And they're not being treated. They're not being treated.
01:38:35
Speaker 11: And then the people that approach the police officers and stuff, they're not trained to deal with mentally ill people.
01:38:45
Speaker 13: It shouldn't be their responsibility either.
01:38:47
Speaker 6: No.
01:38:48
Speaker 4: You may have that one little.
01:38:51
Speaker 13: They say they got these people that can come out.
01:38:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, that group.
01:38:54
Speaker 10: I know what you're talking about.
01:38:55
Speaker 3: Crisis teams, yeah. Response. What do you call it? Immediate response or something response team.
01:39:02
Speaker 13: Right, but they don't have enough people to staff that because the mental illness level out here is much higher than they can keep up with.
01:39:09
Speaker 3: But you know what, though? I will say this, and I understand what you're saying, the frustration. There's never enough of anything these days. But I will say that that unit has expanded significantly. slowly but surely from just beyond the downtown boundaries to out east. And with each passing year, they try to get a little bit more money, a little bit more money from the council, wherever the funding comes, to be able to expand this unit because it is so greatly needed. And it does relieve some of the responsibilities from the police department. But no, there's not enough. There's not enough, but it is encouraging.
01:39:47
Speaker 13: Well, at least they're trying. I'll give them some time.
01:39:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
01:39:50
Speaker 13: But that was my comment, because I know that was my niece's only son, and she struggled for years to get him back.
01:39:56
Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
01:39:57
Speaker 10: But we.
01:39:58
Speaker 3: It's hard. It shouldn't be. And we shouldn't be seeing... Okay.
01:40:05
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:40:06
Speaker 3: You too. You too. We shouldn't. You too.
01:40:09
Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
01:40:10
Speaker 3: But, you know, red carpet, extravagant, expensive state dinners being spent on, you know, leaders of communist countries that have nothing to, you know, all of that money, taxpayer money, our money that we work on.
01:40:24
Speaker 4: Hundreds of millions on.
01:40:25
Speaker 10: A ballroom that nobody needs.
01:40:27
Speaker 3: And taxpayer money being spent on a TV station that, you know, state TV. We're paying for that. Trump TV.
01:40:35
Speaker 10: I mean, not to put aside the point that I'm enriching myself as president of the United States by a billion dollars a year, now up to $ 2 billion a year. I'm enriching myself. You can't pay for hair care. We don't have enough health care workers, according to our callers, to attack mental illnesses.
01:40:56
Speaker 12: None.
01:40:56
Speaker 10: We don't have enough for housing, as Kim Boyd told us, for people to repair their house.
01:41:02
Speaker 4: Come on. Yeah, yeah.
01:41:05
Speaker 3: It's the let them eat cake mentality. I got mine. I'm taking and I'm going to take some more and more and more because you guys are just suckers, you know, and nobody's saying anything. And so we'll see. You know, that's all we can do. You know, we yeah, we have some we.
01:41:21
Speaker 4: Can do it.
01:41:21
Speaker 10: Let them know when we're doing that.
01:41:23
Speaker 3: Let them know that we're here and that we don't appreciate what's going on.
01:41:27
Speaker 5: Indeed.
01:41:28
Speaker 3: So you all have a. Fantastic weekend. We're running a little late, but both of y'all going to do anything special, anything good?
01:41:36
Speaker 5: Are you kidding me, Tina?
01:41:40
Speaker 4: What the 90 things going on here? We're going to be busy.
01:41:43
Speaker 7: We'll be busy doing some of those 90 things.
01:41:45
Speaker 3: We'll be busy, too.
01:41:46
Speaker 2: We'll be.
01:41:46
Speaker 3: So check us out and say hi. We will see you again on. Monday, that's all the time we have for right now. As always, thank you for listening. Our website is praiseindy.com. Willie Moore Jr. on the radio is up next. As always, please continue to be safe, be well, and stay informed. For James Patterson and Eric Garnet, I'm Tina Cosby, and this is Community Connection.