Issue 557: Thunderbolts* Trailer Reaction & Kyle Chandler as Hal Jordan?

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Oh Hello.
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Podcast editor note from me, Michael Carroll. We recorded our
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new issue of Comiccast on Monday, September twenty third, and
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what was planned to be one issue ended up being
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two because we talked for a very long time. So
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instead of just releasing issue five hundred and fifty seven
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of Comiccasts today, I decided to give you two. So
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you're getting an issue five fifty seven and five point
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fifty eight today on your podcast feeds. Issue five fifty
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seven is all about the Thunderbolts as well as the
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new Green Lantern series news and my reaction to the
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ninety seven to five listener appreciation party and some stories
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from that. An issue five hundred and fifty eight you
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get us breaking down the first two episodes of Agathall
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Along and The Penguin.
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So you got options today. Enjoy.
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You can do this all day. I'm gonna than you.
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Do.
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Oh Hello, their Internet.
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Welcome to issue five hundred and fifty seven of Comic Casts.
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I'm Michael Carroll alongside not Jrongly. He is obviously still
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off on podcast paternity to leave, so I am joined
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by I think I don't think it's it's hyperbolic to say,
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a legend of this podcast. He's one of the few
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people that actually had a segment of his own called
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David does Comics, returning to the Comic Cast and for
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I don't know how long, David ramone, David, how are you?
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I am doing well? I just got called a legend.
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So like I am on cloud that is that is
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amazing and whenever you put in perspective it and I
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was just like, oh yeah, I used to have a
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singer on the show. Wow, Like I came a long way.
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I've done some things, you've done.
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You've done a few things.
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And just to be clear for the people listening at home,
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we didn't cancel David's segment. It wasn't like budget budgetary reasons.
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Things happened, we couldn't do it as much anymore. So
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David is always welcome to do David does Comics whenever
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he wants it there. I just want to put that
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out there as like a disclaimer.
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Oh wow, okay, David does a lot of things, so
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maybe we can figure that out.
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David has does eight ton of things. What have you
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been up to, my friend, since you've last been on
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the podcast, because honestly, it's been so long.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, no, I think I could be wrong, but I
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believe the last episode I was on was Blue Beatle quite.
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Possibly, was it Blue Beetle Man, Yeah, that's a bit
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about a year then, yeah.
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Of course, so happy Latino Heritage a month of course. Yeah,
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since I mentioned Blue Beetle.
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Yeah, No, I've been good for a lot of people
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whn't know.
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I've relocated to Kansas for my job, which is you know,
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it's it's different, definitely different. But I would say the
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biggest like pro out of everything being in Kansas, especially
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compared to whenever I go visit home back in Houston.
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No traffic.
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Oh, I bet that's nice.
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Yeah, so I don't.
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I don't live too far from Kansas State University, so
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whenever there's a KSU game, there might be like moderate
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traffic and a lot of drunk teenagers around, but other
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than that, like it's it's really pretty peaceful.
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I'm not even going to front about that.
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And also I was, you know, telling you Micael a
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little bit before we start recording. The weather is fantastic
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as of right now, so no extra sweating is going on.
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Oh.
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In Houston, there's a lot of sweating of extremities. Here,
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there's a lot of sweating, a lot of sweating through
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shirts and stuff. I've I've had to put on so
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many shirts. I haven't had to put on too many
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today because I've been in an office mainly, but like yesterday,
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eight shirts.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, no, I don't miss cause I mean it. This
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is a common thing for us back home. Like I
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definitely used to carry the towel like a little yes, yes, yeah, I.
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Don't miss carrying a towel.
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Sometimes I have this in my head to kind of
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have one on me at all times, and I'm just like,
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why do I need that?
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But you know, it's always say.
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Always say luckily you don't have to sweat where you are,
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And thank you for showcasing how good it is there.
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I love to be a man of the people for candy.
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Thank you, thank you, you can dismn you well, David,
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thank you so much for joining comiccasts today. You can
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follow us on social media. I'm a producer Mike nine
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seven five.
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And you can follow me at got too Domingas.
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See.
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We did it and it's been a year, but we
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did it perfectly. I didn't have to tee you up
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for nothing.
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Well done, I haven't.
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I haven't done that in so long. That didn't feel weird,
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but it felt like huh oh yeah, I do have
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an x I.
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It was like me running up the court and I
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was kind of looking at you with the ball and
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I was like, I think he remembers and then I
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tossed it and you did it.
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Oh yeah, oh yeah, hey man, like you's you gotta
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do it a couple of times. And this is like
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riding a bike, right, I mean, or shooting a jumper
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like some of that stuff.
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It don't leave. I don't know about other people, but
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my jumper state stay pretty well.
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I'm just saying, IY, that's the truth. That's one hundred
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percent the truth right there. And you know what's also
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very pretty is a five star rating on your podcast
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platforms of choice, because that would be nice if you
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could do that for any of our podcasts. I'm begging you,
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I mean, I'm asking you please leave us a.
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Rating or review. We would really appreciate it.
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You can also listen to a version of this podcast
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on ESPN ninety seven five and now on ESPN ninety
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two five. Because Space Cowboys are done we're no longer
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preempted by them, but you can hear comic cast on
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Friday nights currently at eight pm, but we'll shift back
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to nine pm at some point on ESPN ninety seven
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five and ninety two five. And since I'm speaking about
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ESPN ninety seven five and ninety two five, I do
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want to mention we had our ESPN ninety seven to
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five listener appreciation party last Friday, David. It was fun, man,
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it was a great time meeting listeners, especially especially the listeners.
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I'm not saying like the other listeners that don't listen
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to comiccasts, I don't value as much as they do
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the ones that listen to comiccasts. But I kind of
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value the ones that listen to comiccasts. So thank you
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to the listeners that listen to comiccasts that showed up
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to ESPN ninety seven five the appreciation party. I just
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want to quickly mention Jazz Lee and Amanda I met
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them to who are members of the Houston Sharks, the
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women's rugby team that's here in Houston. H Sharks is
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spelled c H A R c S, which shout out
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to that that's well done, well played. But you can
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follow them at Houston Rugby Underscore Women and check them
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out if hey, if you want to play some rugby,
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you can d m them on Instagram. But showed them around,
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showed them the podcast, like the area where we record
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and everything. Absolute blast shout out to them. They also
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brought me some laned chicken fingers that we had here
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at the at the station. It was here, so it's
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not like they went away and came, but they were
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here and then they brought me some.
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I appreciate it so much. That was good.
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That was like top tier. Like, I appreciate y'all so much.
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Y'all are always welcome here.
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That's that's a connection right there.
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That's what I thought. That's I mean, That's what I mean. Basically,
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that's why I was like, y'all are my best friends
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now like I had, you know, y'all are cool.
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I appreciate h'all so much.
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Well, definitely, and Michael real quick.
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Like I think listeners who are not only engaged because
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of course, like we all met because of sports, and
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sports was like the reason for like, you know a
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lot of us coming together. But I would say this,
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listeners who not just a don't indulge in the sports,
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were also into pop culture and the other things like
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no like that. You're right, though I wouldn't say I
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we appreciate them more than like other people. But they're
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just more in line with what we're doing and more
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parallel to.
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Our lifestyles, you know, and that is really cool because
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there's a lot.
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Of cool people out there and they're a lot cooler
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than everyone else.
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So you know, yeah, you.
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Know, I don't want to say it, but the fact
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that you said it, yes, I can definitely.
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No, you could say it, Yeah, you could say it.
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It's fine.
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I also want to shout out uh des Aka atx
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hob Hobo Girl on Twitter and and all the places
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on social media, and Christina ak Pink Valkyrie. They well,
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mainly as I guess, she had the idea of giving
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me and Dell some Japanese breakfast food because we both
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Dell and I are big fans of Showgun. And I
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think it's called Nata Nato whatever it was. It was
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a very interesting thing because it's fermented beans and rice,
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and that was a taste that was a flavor that
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just lingered in my mouth for so long that night. Well,
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you know, it wasn't. It wasn't terrible, but it wasn't
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great necessarily, so it was different. It was different. I
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think they were wanting me to throw up a little bit,
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but I played it cool. I threw up later, so
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it's fine.
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I'm kidding. I didn't throw up. I ate it. I was.
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I toughed it out.
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But shout out to them, shout out today One Donna
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ak Donna Rogers, Gil Larassa, Gil's brother. I didn't get
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his name, but he beat John Granado at arm wrestling,
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so I appreciate that.
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It's uh backed.
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Arm wrestling customer appreciation. I love that.
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Well, it was the well technically it became the after
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party of the listener appreciation party, so we went downstairs,
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had the after party at the Conservatory Galleria and it
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resulted in John Granado arm wrestling somebody, and it was
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a whole thing. It was very interesting. It was a
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very interesting night, to say the least. And also the
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fact that I noted this on Twitter earlier today. Oh,
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I also retweeted the video of me trying the Japanese food.
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So if anyone wants to go to app Producer Mike
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nine seventy five on Twitter you can see the video there.
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You can see my reaction and it's very stringy. But yeah,
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it's hard to explain. But also I want to note
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for the record that the two introverts slash non drinkers
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of ESPN nineties, myself and Dell Ollea, were the last
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two to leave the appreciation party slash after party. How
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that's possible, I don't know, but we were the last
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two to leave, So I just want to bring I would.
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Say that, like, yeah, I think how you stay to
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that is perfectly like on point.
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But for some reason, I'm not surprised.
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You know, we keep it cool. We keep it cool.
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I don't know if it's just like we we were
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just so cool and and we were just so into it,
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or or maybe because of our introvertness masks as like
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social awkwardness of I don't know how to leave now,
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so I'm just gonna stay.
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Just stay till everyone else leaves.
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I'm kidding.
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I enjoyed it so much, Lassa, everybody. It was so
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so much fun. It was it was great. I would
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do it uh again in a heartbeat. But like we
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didn't leave to like eleven something and everybody was gone.
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It was, but it was still cool. It was it
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was really fun.
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I'm watching a video of you eating, and you know
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what's funny, Like you're trying so hard to keep a
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positive like outlook.
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Oh yeah, oh yeah. I tried very hard. I tried.
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I'm but I was like, I'm dedicated to this. And
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as soon as as soon as Das came up to me,
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it was like, we want you to try this Japanese
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food and I.
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Was like, yeah, I'll do it right now.
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Yeah.
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It's like it was like five minutes into the listener
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Appreciation party.
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don't care.
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Fun fact, listeners, if you bring me food, I will
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try it, no matter what. I don't care, I'll do it.
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I'll do it right now.
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The fact that people would just you know, are willing
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enough to offer and be nice enough to bring you
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food like that right there.
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Come on that show's care and I appreciate that. I
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have no transition. I was trying to think of a transition,
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but I have nothing other than thank you all listeners
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for coming to the listener appreciation party. Maybe you appreciate
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the new trailer from Thunderbolts that released I guess the
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debut trailer for the Thunderbolts that released.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm proud uh Thunderbolt.
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I guess it's technically Thunderbolts asterisk asterisks, but the first
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trailer for that premiered and I didn't have to watch
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it legally this time.
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I actually we watched it in crisp HD.
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There's something wrong with me, an emptiness. I'm just drifting
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and I don't have purpose. I thought throwing myself into
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work was the answer.
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Oh no, who are you? I'm Bob?
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Who sent you?
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Bob?
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Nobody are you all? You are all sent?
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Everyone here has done bad things, shadows, robbing, government labs,
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contract kills. Yeah, so so someone once has gone.
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I'm brought up with this belief that there are good
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guys and there are bad guys.
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What's the plan.
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This could get missy, but.
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Eventually you come to realize that there are bad guys
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and there are worse guys and nothing else. Look at
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you so adorable, David. What did you think of the
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first trailer for Thunderbolts, which stars, of course, the anti
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heroes slash kind of villain slash, kind of not of
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the MCU uh, just right off the back.
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And this is without any like kind of biases or whatever,
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just looking into it, without like having the comic book
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like history and all the other junk that you can
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probably like consolute it a little bit. Just it's automatically
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just right.
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Off the rip. I thought it was done very nicely.
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I love seeing the interaction in the beginning, you know,
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maybe a couple of laughs, maybe bringing up you know,
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a couple of the faces that we haven't seen in
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a while, which is really cool, which I believe like
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all together is as a whole, like these characters who yes,
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of course were pinned as bad guys, but kind of
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have their own like backstory or the reasons why they're
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doing what they're doing or they did what they did, uh,
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you know, put these this team all together is definitely
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really interesting and I ultimately like the trailer a lot.
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The action was there kind of telling like somewhat of
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the story and the reasoning why we're having this movie,
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so we got a little detailed into that. Overall, Like
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I give it a solid score as for trailers go,
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I definitely believe that it was a really good one.
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The I don't want to say the only thing I
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have against it is one, I guess the reasoning why
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we might see this asterisk as Thunderbolts because one, I
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didn't see Thunderbolt Ross at any point of this you know,
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you know, trailer, which might be a reason. And I'm
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not sure if he has anything to do with it, Like.
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I think he doesn't.
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I think if from my understanding, he doesn't have any
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connection to this team, even though that's technically why they're
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called the Thunderbolts. And maybe because he's not here, is
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maybe why that that that you have the asterisk at
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the end of the title.
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So I don't know, And.
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Yeah, so that that that's that's one aspect of it too.
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And even though, like I guess you can take this
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with a grain of salt because overall these are technically villains,
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but like I said, they all have their backstory and
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you can call unquote unquote antiheroes if you want to,
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like put it in that direction.
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But also that kind of like is this.
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Vague a little bit because I'm just like, no, like
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I'm not saying like they're the suicide Squad, which in
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reality they're Marvel Suicide.
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Squad in a way, but with actual like real villains though.
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And that's the other thing that's been kind of bugging
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me a little bit about this series. And and I'll
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just put it out there too, like my rendition, my
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favorite rendition of the Thunderbolts are not really like villains
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at all too, so just having a little bit of
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a history of like what I expect from a team
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called the Thunderbolts, it's a little different, But I also
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understand for like MCU standards, I believe like this is
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the best probably group that they have in order to
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execute a team like this. So I'm taking like that
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stuff with a grain of salt. So overall, I enjoyed it.
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I really appreciate it. I can't wait for, like I guess,
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for me to understand the full story so I can
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get a full scope of it. But like, yeah, is
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this those lingering things that can kind of like contolude
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it a little bit, right, Like that's kind of like
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messing with me from really enjoying this as a whole.
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Yeah, it's it's not because I've seen that comparison and
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it's like, oh, it's Marvel's Studios as suicide Squad and
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to a certain extent, like you mentioned, it kind of is,
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but like with this version, you're you're not getting like
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and I'll go to James Gunns suicide Squad because I
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don't want to go to the other suicide squad because
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that was the whole thing. But like that that suicide
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Squad was all villains, like straight up just villains, villains
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all the way through. In this case, I would say
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they're more anti heroes or antagonists, right, Like task Master
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was the villain of the Black Widow movie to a
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certain extent, more of like the right hand of the villain,
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and at that they were kind of brainwashed into doing that, right.
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And you have Ghosts, who was basically the antagonist for
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ant Man and the Wasp, but was also doing it
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because of what was happening to her and the pain
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and all that, so it's not like straight up necessarily villains.
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Then of course you got John Walker, who was kind
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of a villain but kind of not by the end
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of Falcon and the Winter Soldierylena I never have considered
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a villain even though she was kind of an antagonist,
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and Hawkeye Red Guardian not really a villain. They're they're
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all like on the edge of just they're willing to
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do the bad stuff in a lot of.
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Cases, like Jolene is like killing people. In this trailer, there.
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Will forgot to point out, like amazingly see someone shot.
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Yeah, they're willing to do those things that push them
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over the edge of being just heroes. That's why they
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are anti heroes at the end of the day. But
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it's it's so it's so nice to see this trailer
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because it has a different feel to it then I
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think some of the other I mean, it has that
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Marvel comedy like it starts off at the beginning with
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Red Guardian. Oh my door dash, I don't know, you know, whatever,
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go away, go later. Oh I got so much things.
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Oh my life full is so full and fulfilled. Yeah,
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he's gonna be like the comic relief of this movie.
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But it has a I don't know, there's a there's
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an interesting like I don't I don't know if dark
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angle to it or or more serious angle to this
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with them possibly being trapped and being like herded into
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being a team somehow, it doesn't seem like they're being
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a team by choice necessarily. It seems like they're being
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a team by force.
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Yeah, yeah, for sure.
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And if that is like the story where like someone
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is trying to like take them out, and that's like
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their version of like coming up with a reason why
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they need a team up, which I totally understand because
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if someone's trying to kill me then or it killed
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me in a group of people, hey, maybe we should
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go against the person who's trying to kill us.
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Totally makes sense. I reallyerstand that.
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But like I said, is this I guess, like the
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maybe if you have this like idea of what the
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Donna books should be in an MCU and that's not
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exactly what's being like drawn out, Like this is the
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thing like I gotta I kind of have to wait
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in order to like you know, regurgitate more information and
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for me to kind of come up with that conclusion
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of oh, this is just something like another cash graph
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or another thing to just kind of keep us, like
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I guess, uh sitting for a while until the next
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like phases of movies like start getting kicked out and
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things of that nature just to put in front of
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us in order to watch.
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But I think they're in a good direction.
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Like I said, I do appreciate a lot of these characters,
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and yeah, like they're not what I expect, but at
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the same time, I'm willing to see and wait if
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this will turn into something that maybe might be better
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than I expected.
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I do like that. I mean, for one, the action,
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like you mentioned, is really really well done in this.
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I really like the action sequences, especially when you get
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Bucky towards the end of the trailer, like really going
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hard at at things using the weapon that it seemingly
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he used back at Winter Soldier way back when, and
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him like I guess he attaches like a pulley or
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something to a Humbye and it's driving fast and this
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man like holds up on a bike, gets off of
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it and just pulls it Like that was cool.
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Man like that. I'm not gonna lie, that was really cool.
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Classic Bucky Barns getting all his action off of a bike.
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Classic Bucky Barns. Oh that's old, classic Bucky Barns. There,
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that's what it sounded like to me.
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That's that's exact, boy. I was trying to care.
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And also the I love the moment of this bulletproof
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and are you are you kidding me? And it's like
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bullet proofish or whatever he said whatever Red Guardian says.
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I I like that.
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I like the the chemistry that they seemingly have. I'm
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curious where Bucky is because where we left him off
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in Winter Soldier or Falcon in the Winter Soldier is
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like he's kind of come to terms with some of
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his stuff. He's confronting some of his stuff, but he
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didn't seem like a political figure, and he seems more
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like he's going to be dealing with the politics of
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things because in brief moments we see him, I think
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he's going through like a courtroom or something like that.
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And then of course he's had a fancy dinner thing
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with Contessa Valentina. I forget Julia Louis Dreyfus's character's full name, but.
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She seems to be a big part of.
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That.
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You saw like Loki Staff in that was that Loki
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staff I'm not sure in a glass case.
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Oh it might have been.
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It might have been like taunted, Like it's like an
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upity party. I'm guessing for like invite only and everyone
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has to wear a suit and you see all these
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like relics of the past. It kind of looks like, well, also, yeah,
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Bucky in a suit was very weird for me.
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Yeah, so I have the trailer like on repeats because
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I want to bring that part up because there's another
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part in the trailer in terms of Contesta val Valentina
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in that Yeah, and I think you're right that that
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does look like Loki scepter. There is a couple of
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things that looks.
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Like almost looks like storm Breaker in the back.
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No, that's not storm Breaker in the background. I don't
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know what that is and in case might be a
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piece of wood of groot or something.
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I know.
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Well, that's terrible.
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Uh, there is There is another part where there's a
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building shot where it's Red Guardian, John Walker, Yolena, Bucky
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and Ghost and they were walking up towards Valentina and
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it's in like a like a big like sky skyscraper
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office building type thing. A lot of people right, what's that? Yeah,
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it's towards the end. It's at like two fifty one
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of the trailer. A lot of people are wondering, is
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that Avengers Tower that was sold all those years ago
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that we never found out who bought Avengers Tower?
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Oh, did not even take that into consideration. Now that's
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actually a pretty good thought right there.
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I can't take full credit of it. It's just something
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that I've seen online that I'm like, that's that's a possibility.
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I mean, we've been speculating for so long.
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Ant Man of.
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The Wasp teased that was a possible tease as to
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whom I might have bought it, as well as some
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other situations. So maybe Valentina has finally bought it, like
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maybe she's the one behind the bought Tower. Which if
491
00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:36.400
that's the case, I wonder if the asterisk leads us
492
00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:39.680
to Dark Avengers in some way, like if that's actually
493
00:25:39.720 --> 00:25:42.319
the group that we're forming here, that.
494
00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:45.200
Actually seems more in line to what is actually going on.
495
00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:48.240
But maybe like Marvel just chose to like go in
496
00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:50.640
a different direction where it's just like let's tease it
497
00:25:50.680 --> 00:25:54.799
with this team naming convention and we can like move
498
00:25:54.839 --> 00:25:58.759
in that direction after like this movie. Because the asterisk
499
00:25:58.759 --> 00:26:01.000
to that and like what you said, Dark Avengers, that
500
00:26:01.240 --> 00:26:05.160
actually makes pretty pretty good sense in that aspect. It's
501
00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:07.279
because that's like we're kind of listening off like the
502
00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:09.279
reasonings of what we kind of see as the Thunderbolts
503
00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:12.680
are So I think that makes way more sense. But
504
00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:16.599
also can we talk about was there anything that kind
505
00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:20.000
of like I won't say, like maybe like drawing you
506
00:26:20.079 --> 00:26:21.200
away from the trailer.
507
00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:22.759
But I ain't gonna lie.
508
00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:27.119
Like Julian Leuis Dreyfus's character, I do not appreciate and
509
00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:28.319
them see you whatsoever?
510
00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:31.039
I really know you don't.
511
00:26:31.400 --> 00:26:34.480
Yeah, And not just because like of her shadowy like
512
00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:37.519
figure or like because of what she's doing in the backdrop,
513
00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:39.640
like I'm talking about like this just.
514
00:26:39.640 --> 00:26:42.640
Her character in general. I still really don't understand, like maybe.
515
00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:44.920
She's moving some pieces and doing some things, but like
516
00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:47.839
I feel like you can take her character out these
517
00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:50.440
movies and the movie can still become what it is
518
00:26:50.680 --> 00:26:51.599
as of right now.
519
00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:52.880
And that's just me, and.
520
00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:54.720
Not just because like I look at her and be like,
521
00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:58.359
why a Seinfeld lady on this Marvel movie that has
522
00:26:58.400 --> 00:27:00.759
nothing to do with it? It just this her as
523
00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:03.640
a character to me, and like doesn't really build anything
524
00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:05.839
up for me and sending things up with more. So
525
00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:07.880
like I feel like it's more irritating because like a
526
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:09.559
lot of the stuff that is kind of being moved,
527
00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:12.599
like the parts can probably happen without it this And
528
00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:14.799
that's just me, youven though, like I do get it,
529
00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:16.839
she is moving a lot of things, but I just
530
00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:19.079
feel like the movie can still move in that direction.
531
00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:19.519
Without her character.
532
00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:23.599
She's so Yeah, that's the thing with her appearances. She's
533
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:27.119
appeared like two or three times at this point. Yeah,
534
00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:29.640
and we still don't really get a sense of what
535
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:31.759
she's trying to do or what she's trying to build.
536
00:27:31.759 --> 00:27:33.559
She seems like she's in a quest for power of
537
00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:35.920
some kind. She seems like she's in a quest to
538
00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:41.079
run things, if you will, and possibly be a new
539
00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:44.039
version of a Nick Fury, but for a more CD
540
00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:49.119
under undercover government type situation that she's got. I mean,
541
00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:52.559
maybe she's building her own power to a certain extent.
542
00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:56.359
But this is the movie where we'll actually maybe finally
543
00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:58.880
understand some of the things, because I think the probably
544
00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:01.880
the biggest case of you did you really need Her?
545
00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:04.079
Was Black Panther Waconda Forever.
546
00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:06.000
Yes, that's right there.
547
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:10.599
That one's probably like the biggest, like we did we
548
00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:13.039
really need this? I mean I don't, I only I
549
00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:15.880
honestly don't remember what she added to it outside of
550
00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:21.400
having Martin Freeman's Kevin Martin Freeman's character Everett Rossby around
551
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:23.880
her find out that they were actually married or something
552
00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:28.200
like that, and boiled down to him getting arrested by
553
00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:30.319
her and her people or something like that. Like that's
554
00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:33.359
that's what it boiled down to. So I mean, I
555
00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:35.920
don't know, like that one, that one you could definitely
556
00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:37.759
see like did we really need that?
557
00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:40.799
But but the the.
558
00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:42.559
At least the ones where it was like around Yolena
559
00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:45.759
and around John Walker kind of makes sense, especially if
560
00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:48.319
if she is looking to build some sort of team.
561
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:50.079
Of her own to use.
562
00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:54.400
Not quite like Amanda Waller but but similar in some
563
00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:55.720
in some respects.
564
00:28:56.480 --> 00:28:57.720
Yeah, and this.
565
00:28:57.640 --> 00:29:00.240
Is probably like the bigger reasoning of why we I
566
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:03.759
get this Dark Avengers right, because maybe she is like
567
00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:08.319
the background of what's going on, Like I guess post Nick.
568
00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:10.440
I wouldn't even say post Nick Pery, but I guess
569
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:12.599
like posts of everything that we know that's happening.
570
00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:13.440
Maybe mm hmm.
571
00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:17.400
But maybe that's why like Dark Avengers makes more sense
572
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:20.240
a little bit, I guess with her like just always
573
00:29:20.279 --> 00:29:22.640
working from the shadows and you're not us really not
574
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:25.319
understanding like really what's going on. Because I think that's
575
00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:27.759
a bigger part of like why I'm coming to this
576
00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:30.920
is that, like I just don't understand what is happening
577
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:33.279
with her in this character. But to me, it has
578
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:35.640
to be something big, right, like for her to be
579
00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:39.200
seen in these like in these movies and shows, for
580
00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:41.640
something to kind of pop off in that direction, like
581
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:44.480
why does she still keep popping up in these like
582
00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:47.599
very key moments, But still it's not adding too much
583
00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:49.880
or we have more questions and maybe that's just then
584
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:51.519
like doing a character building.
585
00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:53.400
But now I'm just kind of irritated.
586
00:29:54.440 --> 00:29:56.599
I don't I get it, I get it, but I
587
00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:59.200
think you'll get some of those answers finally with Thunderbolts.
588
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:02.079
I think that's where we finally get an understanding of
589
00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:05.440
what she's been doing in the MCU and what's what
590
00:30:05.559 --> 00:30:09.119
she's kind of having planned, because I would guess by
591
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:12.720
the end of the movie that asterisk drops and the
592
00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:16.240
title of the movie is like changed by the end
593
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:18.640
of it, right like when the end credits hit, it's
594
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:21.480
Dark Avengers or you know whatever they want to call
595
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:22.359
it by the end of it.
596
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:25.759
No, yeah, no, for sure, that definitely does make sense.
597
00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:29.119
And I won't even say that's wishful thinking. I definitely
598
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:32.519
fall into line what that might be it because having that,
599
00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:35.119
even though it's such a small thing, is literally a symbol,
600
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:38.279
Like it's literally a symbol but to have that symbol
601
00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:40.200
right at the end of it is just like, huh,
602
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:42.000
that's there for a reason.
603
00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:43.759
Yeah.
604
00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:47.279
The other aspect of this trailer before we move on
605
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:50.039
that we need to discuss is we see the character
606
00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:56.880
of Bob. Now Bob, It's like, who's this guy Bob? Well,
607
00:30:57.359 --> 00:30:59.240
if you want to know the comics, just look up
608
00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:05.599
Bob or a Century and I mean Century is is
609
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:11.279
like is like Superman basically, right. I mean he's different
610
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:13.839
in that there is kind of a good bad side
611
00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:17.000
to him. There is Century the good guy versus the void,
612
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:20.680
which I wonder if they go full into that direction
613
00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:24.039
for this movie, which again makes me go, how are
614
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:27.920
the this group of characters gonna handle that? We get
615
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:32.079
a brief tease to that in the trailer where he
616
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:35.039
just seems like a like oh like, hey, I'm just
617
00:31:35.119 --> 00:31:37.880
I'm just Bob, I'm just here whatever. And then there's
618
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:41.359
another brief scene where a bunch of soldiers are seemingly
619
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:45.759
shooting at him and his face changes. He looks more
620
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:50.400
menacing in that brief moment. How are the I still
621
00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:52.880
don't know how Century fits into all this. Like, to me,
622
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:55.960
that's the big question of how are you gonna balance this.
623
00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:59.440
This feels like the suicide Squad trying to go up
624
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:03.920
again super Man or some like s tier like character.
625
00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:07.400
That's like you're trying to throw King Shark and a
626
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:11.640
Harley Quinn or something like that at a super like
627
00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:12.559
mega figure.
628
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:15.119
Yeah, how does he fit?
629
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:16.160
Yeah?
630
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:18.920
No, yeah, I know you're totally right, like coming off
631
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:20.640
right off the back, because you know, it's funny like
632
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:22.759
when Abe said his name is Bob, I did not
633
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:25.400
know about century right off the back, and I was
634
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:26.920
just like, why is hydro Bob?
635
00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:30.119
And that's cool, I guess.
636
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:35.200
But anyways, maybe and this is just like is walking
637
00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:37.200
off what we got? Maybe, Like I wonder if they
638
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:39.799
all were like kind of like sent there, because you
639
00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:41.839
know he did he does say like send here, Like
640
00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:44.039
I wasn't sent here. I was I was here already.
641
00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:45.839
So like what if that was like the whole gist
642
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:49.319
of like sending these people with like good, like these
643
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:52.799
amazing abilities to try to like take them on without
644
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:55.480
him even knowing or without even like everyone knowing what's
645
00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:55.960
going on.
646
00:32:56.119 --> 00:32:58.400
Mm hmm, Yeah, it might be a challenge kind of thing.
647
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:02.119
Yeah, maybe someone just thought, like you know what, no context,
648
00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:05.039
no nothing, somehow get like all this group of people
649
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:08.759
here in this space with him, maybe like something will happen,
650
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:11.680
because something does happen, like either they put the heater
651
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:16.920
on or like they turn off the heat. Yeah right,
652
00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:19.000
they're they're in an air fire all of a sudden.
653
00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:22.759
But like, yes, stuff is definitely going on. But that's
654
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:25.759
it's interesting to know that like you had, like you said,
655
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:29.079
this s tier person who was capable of so much.
656
00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:32.160
And also where have you been? Sir? We could have
657
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:35.680
used you for a lot of things up until this point.
658
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:38.039
So that's another thing to know his background on what's
659
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:40.519
kind of been going on with his story, Like while
660
00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:41.559
this all this stuff is.
661
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:44.559
Kind of going on, do you think it's gonna be
662
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:50.640
a case of like Valentina was messing with was messing
663
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:53.920
with you know, like the super Soldier serum or something
664
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:55.880
like that, and that's how they end up creating him.
665
00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:57.960
Is it something along those lines or do you think
666
00:33:58.000 --> 00:33:59.079
it could be something else?
667
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.680
I'm trying to understand that. That's that's another thing too,
668
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:05.079
because like this is the question I asked, like where
669
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:08.320
have you been? So either you or someone because he
670
00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:11.239
is wearing like what like a I wouldn't call it
671
00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:14.920
like a hospital gown soor to speak, but definitely something
672
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:17.920
that he doesn't have record clothes off nor right, He's
673
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:21.119
definitely not He's definitely has not been out in the public,
674
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:25.000
so he's probably been you know, getting tested or whatever
675
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:27.119
the fact. So that makes a lot more sense that
676
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:30.599
this is more recent. But also, yeah, I wouldn't fall
677
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:33.880
too far from like, what is what's his like so
678
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:34.360
to speak?
679
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:35.000
Origin story?
680
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:35.280
Right?
681
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:38.480
Or maybe this movie is the Century origin story that
682
00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:40.880
we don't know that we're getting, but it's going to
683
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:43.239
coexist with everything that's going on in this story.
684
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:46.320
At two forty eight, you can also see what looks
685
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:49.320
to be the Century logo, like whoever's picking up this
686
00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:52.280
like medallion or I don't know what it is, but
687
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:55.079
it looks like the s from Century.
688
00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:56.320
It does.
689
00:34:56.599 --> 00:34:58.360
And to be honest with you, I was trying to
690
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:01.559
zoom in on that, but now that you men, that's probably.
691
00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:04.239
What that is. And that and yeah, very a lot
692
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:05.559
of gold there, heavy on the.
693
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:08.400
Gold, heavy gold. I didn't know Century was a gold fan,
694
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:09.400
but apparently.
695
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:11.840
Now that that that does kind of make sense.
696
00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:14.519
Well, I'm just like wow, Like he he does have
697
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:16.960
pretty good taste, but he does he doesn't mind showing
698
00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:17.639
it whatsoever.
699
00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:19.599
No, he doesn't mind showing it, So we'll see by
700
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:20.039
the end of it.
701
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:23.440
Maybe that's the reveal, is that the movie's actually called Century.
702
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:24.760
I don't know, we'll see.
703
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:29.400
Oh if you because you said origin Stories, I was like, oh,
704
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:32.199
maybe it's centuries story movie sort of.
705
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:33.519
Thing, sort of thing.
706
00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:36.320
Yeah, No, I kind of dig that, like especially hearing
707
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:38.800
what you're saying about the Gold, which kind of makes
708
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:39.280
sense now.
709
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:42.079
But yeah, I'm very interested.
710
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:44.400
I'll say this, like, I definitely have way more of
711
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:47.400
a positive outlook in this movie versus like why is
712
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:48.239
this movie being made?
713
00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:49.800
This is a waste of time? Like how does this
714
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:51.840
coexist with everything else going on? And I'm see you.
715
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:57.639
But also we're getting the the Falcon movie first, correct.
716
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:00.360
Like the Yeah, the Captain America Brave New World comes
717
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:03.920
out February. Forget if it's eighteenth or something like that.
718
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:06.320
I might be conflating that with a video game that's
719
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:07.559
coming out at the same time.
720
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:07.800
But.
721
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:13.760
It comes out February, and then Thunderbolts.
722
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:16.320
Comes out in May, so back to back.
723
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:16.800
I like that.
724
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:20.559
Which also, if we're getting this trailer now in what
725
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:23.960
is it September and it's I don't know, like eight
726
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:26.679
months ahead of the movie or so, I'm doing the
727
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:27.639
math very quickly.
728
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:29.559
Seven months or so.
729
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:35.280
We should be getting a Fantastic four trailer by November.
730
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:38.880
Maybe or December. I would guess that.
731
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:42.599
But also, like, how much do you think this fantastic
732
00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:44.599
because we kind of already know that what's going on
733
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:44.920
with that?
734
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:48.800
But do you think implications in any of these movies
735
00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:50.519
can somehow like stretch to.
736
00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:54.719
That that far, like in terms of Captain America, Brave
737
00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:58.440
New World and Thunderbolts having anything, Yes, I don't.
738
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I don't think so.
739
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I think I think because Fantastic Four seems like it's
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happening in a separate like MCU timeline universe thing that
741
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:12.880
I don't know that there's gonna be much much connection
742
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:15.960
with it. I think the big thing for Captain America,
743
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Brave New World and Thunderbolts is how do they tie
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00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:24.559
into the greater multiverse story at play? Because those are
745
00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:27.679
the two movies that I can't see a multiverse angle
746
00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:32.360
with at all. And David Harbor has been been upping this.
747
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:35.400
Thunderbolts is going to change the da da da da,
748
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:39.400
Please don't do that. But if it really is, like,
749
00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:42.880
what does that mean? Is it the the inclusion of century?
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00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:46.679
Is it the maybe finally that we're recognizing the giant
751
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:50.000
celestial in Brave New World, we're recognizing that the celestial
752
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:52.679
is coming out of the Indian Ocean or wherever that
753
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:56.119
celestial is from. Maternals, Like, is it things that they
754
00:37:56.159 --> 00:38:00.119
discover there? I know that movie is gonna showcase Animantium,
755
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:03.199
so maybe there's something along those lines. I you know,
756
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:05.119
I don't know if it's a mutant angle to this
757
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:08.840
or what, but there has to be some sort of
758
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:13.519
set up with doomsday, avengers, doomsday and characters meeting each
759
00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:17.360
other to really get the cohesive story going because right now,
760
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:20.000
we've talked about it on this podcast. Right now, the
761
00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:23.320
cohesiveness hasn't been as stellar as it has been in
762
00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:26.400
years past, not at all like this, and just.
763
00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:27.920
A couple of the things that you have mentioned right now,
764
00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:31.519
like for example, this to the Seals and man, I
765
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:33.719
know this is you know, going back a little bit.
766
00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:36.599
And of course, like the Venom trailer dropped a while
767
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:40.199
back and see Noel for the first time, right, Yeah,
768
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:43.280
that's that's really amazing. I love that, Like, and we
769
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:46.360
talked about this before with other like movies in the past,
770
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:50.400
where we're seeing people from comics are like, you know,
771
00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:54.360
fairly new in the comic world already coming out like
772
00:38:54.440 --> 00:38:56.559
in the movies, which is of course to me. I
773
00:38:56.960 --> 00:39:00.440
love that, right, But also when we have the things
774
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:04.239
for example in the Thor movie when you literally have
775
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:07.239
the God Killer using a necro sword Christian Bell's character
776
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:11.800
like that that sprom nol, but I'm still supposed to
777
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:16.079
kind of expect that be a different universe or what's.
778
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:18.559
Kind of happening, Like we're I'm not.
779
00:39:18.519 --> 00:39:20.639
Saying we're guessing here, but also it's just like how
780
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:24.320
do we tie those those little, you know, subtle things
781
00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:26.400
together and where are we at? Like you're at, there's
782
00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:28.639
no cohesiveness too much, and now we're kind of like
783
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:31.079
playing the guessing game a little bit. And also like
784
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:34.800
you said Doomsday right, like it's it's a different done
785
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.119
that we're kind of expecting and that already like kind
786
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:39.440
of like I wouldn't say it sets me off, like how.
787
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:41.960
We're talking about the Thunderbolts does. But where are we at,
788
00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:42.679
where are we going?
789
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:45.440
How we're getting there exactly?
790
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:48.440
We have so many questions, uh, I wonder if we
791
00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:53.440
have questions about this next casting choice, because yes, because
792
00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:57.239
what's weird is like the last episode that John was on,
793
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:00.840
there was a story that came out that was like
794
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:04.079
Josh Brolin is in talks or has been offered the
795
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:06.519
role of Hal Jordan, and he was in the mix
796
00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:10.800
alongside Matthew McConaughey, Like Josh Brolin was the first choice.
797
00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:15.000
And then there's Matthew McConaughey, Ewan McGregor, Chris Pine, all
798
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:18.400
these names. And this is no disparaging the name that
799
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:19.440
now comes up.
800
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:21.599
But what happened?
801
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:27.159
What where was that like somebody jumping the gun? Or
802
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:30.800
did we just speculate when we didn't need to because
803
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:33.639
coming out today earlier today as we record this, we're
804
00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:37.840
recording this on Monday, September twenty third. This was first
805
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:42.280
reported by Deadline. Emmy winner Kyle Chandler is in negotiations
806
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:45.800
to star in Lanterns. It's the of course, high profile
807
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:49.639
series based on Green Lantern. DC comic sources tell Deadline
808
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:53.519
no one is commenting commenting, but I hear Chandler is
809
00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:57.599
poised to play hol Jordan, the Green Lantern character. The
810
00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:03.239
series is from Ozark's Chris Watchman's Damon Lindeloff and comic
811
00:41:03.239 --> 00:41:06.800
book writer Tom King follows new recruit John Stewart and
812
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Lannyrn Legend Jordan, two intergalactic cops drawn into a dark
813
00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:14.360
Earth based mystery as they investigate a murder in the
814
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American Heartland. The search for John Stewart, whoever's playing that character,
815
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is still ongoing, but the series will be eight episodes,
816
00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:27.360
will be produced by HBO in association with Warner Brothers
817
00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:31.800
Television and DC Studios. Monday will serve as showrunner. Lindeloff
818
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:35.239
and King are co writing and executive producing, and the
819
00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:39.079
project received a straight to series order in June and is,
820
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:42.039
of course, one of the first titles to come out
821
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:44.360
of the revamped DC Studios.
822
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So, David, are.
823
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You you know, to go from Josh Brolind to Kyle Chandler. Again,
824
00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:55.400
no disrespect to Kyle Chandler, but like you know, I
825
00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:58.480
just I wonder what happened there in terms of yeah,
826
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were on all Chandler?
827
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:04.800
Now, okay, look and I'm just after what you just
828
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:09.679
the listeners are listening to what the excerpt you just
829
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:12.760
you just wrote, you just read from When it comes
830
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:14.599
to people putting ship together.
831
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:18.039
That's who I want putting that together.
832
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:22.280
Okay, Ozark, I'm not I'm not like the hugest fan
833
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:25.159
of Ozark, but when we talk about Damon Lindeloff and
834
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what he's did with The Watchman, like and also Tom
835
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:32.960
Keen in his own right, yes, like heavy hitter in
836
00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:38.280
the comic world, I can be Hal Jordan for all people.
837
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:42.440
Yeah, I get, I see what you mean. Yeah, I
838
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:43.360
get what you're saying now.
839
00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:46.039
Yeah, yeah, no, So like it's just like you know what,
840
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:49.039
like right now we're putting faces to names and trying
841
00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:51.440
to paint the picture and all the people that you
842
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:56.320
put respectively respectfully, like makes sense. And when we think of,
843
00:42:56.639 --> 00:42:59.840
you know how what he should look like Chris pineal
844
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:01.960
where it's like one of these people who comes up
845
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:04.119
and we want to like imagine that and now'll be
846
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:05.880
fancasting and he probably.
847
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:06.920
Would have been an amazing job.
848
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:10.400
Yeah, Cole Father does also have a look towards this,
849
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:13.800
like I can see that also with his age too
850
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:16.440
as well, like it's a little older, and I think
851
00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:19.760
that's why, of course we see multiple lanterns kind of
852
00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:22.719
surfacing and what should be coming in the future, which
853
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:24.440
I can kind of appreciate a little bit because it
854
00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:28.320
kind of gives you a stage and era of what's happening,
855
00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:31.199
what's going on. But like I never thought in my
856
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:33.440
life I'll get a DC true detective.
857
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:36.320
But in all.
858
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:40.039
Reality, like this is being built up to where I'm
859
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:43.559
not only like appreciative of first of all, that we're
860
00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:47.320
actually getting green lantern anything, you know, right off the back, right,
861
00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:51.840
but I'm just appreciative of really good people coming together
862
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:55.000
to build a story that can really like you know,
863
00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:57.519
not just like be good, but people can kind of
864
00:43:57.519 --> 00:44:00.559
gravitate to because from from the looks of it, they
865
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:02.960
want to like capture the essence of all these other
866
00:44:03.039 --> 00:44:06.199
things other than just like a comic book story, right,
867
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:08.719
Like it sounds like they want to like get people
868
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:12.599
involved that usually won't be involved in like a DC property,
869
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:15.000
so that I can kind of get on board with.
870
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:17.199
I kind of love I love the direction.
871
00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:19.800
Like like I said, you know, maybe it is not
872
00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:22.599
the person who we originally thought or wanted, but you
873
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:24.519
know what, I'm willing to see the end product.
874
00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:25.920
And I honestly still king.
875
00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:30.559
Wait, I think like what you mentioned about, when you
876
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:34.239
have that sort of group around it, it doesn't. It
877
00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:37.280
doesn't matter who's who's around like who. It doesn't matter
878
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:40.360
necessarily who's who is Hal Jordan, who's playing Al Jordan.
879
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:43.559
I tend to agree with you because I didn't realize
880
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:45.519
when we talked about the story a few weeks ago
881
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:50.719
with Jong, I didn't realize or I didn't remember Damon Lindeloff.
882
00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:52.840
I didn't remember Tom King being all a part of this.
883
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:57.639
I didn't know about Monday. So seeing that group and
884
00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:02.079
especially with Lindeloff and King, right, ain't yeah, bro, Like
885
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:07.000
Lindeloff delivered with Watchmen one of the best shows I've
886
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:11.280
ever seen, Like that show is was the best show
887
00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:13.559
for me in twenty nineteen and is just one of
888
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:16.519
my favorite shows of all time. And then on top
889
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:18.280
of that, you have Tom King, who's one of the
890
00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:23.119
best comic creators out there right now, I would argue,
891
00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:27.559
and he's just he's been so phenomenal with his current
892
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:31.800
runs of Batman everything, Like, he is just such an
893
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:34.760
amazing writer. So to have those two collaborating on this
894
00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:38.599
makes me really excited that the idea of this true
895
00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:44.599
detective true detective theme and understanding more that that it's
896
00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:46.679
going to be an older Hal Jordan. That's going to
897
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:50.719
be showing Jon Stewart the ropes and giving him the
898
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:55.440
you know, the the mentorship to get through this and
899
00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:59.079
show kind of take him on the road as his
900
00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:03.199
new room crude and trainee, if you will. I think
901
00:46:03.239 --> 00:46:05.519
that's a cool perspective. It was something that I wasn't
902
00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:07.320
like sure about because I was like, oh, when they
903
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:09.719
mentioned Josh Berlin, I was like, oh, that's a little old.
904
00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:13.880
But now like seeing kind of seeing things in a
905
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:18.000
better perspective, I'm like in the direction here, especially the
906
00:46:18.119 --> 00:46:20.280
detective angle. I mean, we've talked about it on this
907
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:25.800
podcast before, the True Detective. But it's DC lantern Lanterns.
908
00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:28.480
That's that's pretty that's pretty cool.
909
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:32.480
It's man, yeah, and get this too.
910
00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:37.920
Like I vividly remember seeing the article of how Lindeloff
911
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:42.400
at first refused to touch Washman because he knew what
912
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:46.559
Washman meant to everybody and also what the creator attended
913
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:48.880
it to be, like it was distant, be that story,
914
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:52.280
that's it, That's that's how it is. That's how it was,
915
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:55.840
that's forever how it will be, and for so long
916
00:46:56.000 --> 00:46:59.679
being in that like limbo of this show that you know,
917
00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:02.719
we've I would have never saw until like what like
918
00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:05.039
maybe I would say, like six seven, eight years later
919
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:06.840
down the line that he finally was like, you know what,
920
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:09.599
if we have the blessings, if I think I can
921
00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:12.079
do it at execute it in a certain way, then
922
00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:14.840
you know what, let's go for it. Like this man
923
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:18.000
has so much respect and love for what he's writing.
924
00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:20.239
I'm just going to put that out there, like he's
925
00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:22.599
not doing this for a cash grab. Like the man
926
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:25.639
has money, I'm pretty sure, but he's doing this for
927
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:29.000
the love of sport. And that's the biggest thing to
928
00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:32.039
draw from that. Whenever I see his name attached to anything,
929
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:34.119
I know it's going to be something that at least
930
00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:38.559
comes from a place of this is what I really
931
00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:41.239
wanted to execute, And especially if you put him next
932
00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:45.679
to Tim King, like that's that's a certified banger right there.
933
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:49.880
You've heard it, certified banger coming in and this is
934
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:53.719
and this is needs to be a certified banger, because
935
00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:57.360
this is going to be you know, we have the
936
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:00.679
Penguin right now, but that's not in in James Gunn's
937
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:05.199
universe that he's building, right we have Creature Commandos, which
938
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:07.760
comes out later this year, which is technically the first
939
00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:13.320
James Gunn DC New DC Universe show that's coming out,
940
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:17.719
that's in December, and that's an important you show to
941
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:21.079
get the ground ground up and running for his universe
942
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:25.400
that he's building. But Lanterns is supposed to be not
943
00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:28.159
only is it supposed to be an HBO show, a
944
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:30.880
true detective in nature, but it also is going to
945
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:33.519
tie into the larger narrative that they're doing with their
946
00:48:33.519 --> 00:48:37.280
first chapter of this universe. So you got to get
947
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:39.960
this right if you're going to tell this bigger universe
948
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:45.639
overarching story, and while delivering on the story that we'll
949
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:48.920
see in the show, but also delivering on the greater
950
00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:53.519
universe impacting narrative that they're setting up is going to
951
00:48:53.559 --> 00:48:55.800
be key. So you have some heavy hitters here that
952
00:48:55.880 --> 00:49:01.320
can get it right. Kyle Chandler good actor. I I
953
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:03.880
not necessarily my favorite actor, but he's not a bad
954
00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:06.719
actor by any stretch of the imagination. I've liked him,
955
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:09.039
and the only things that come to mind are Godzilla.
956
00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:10.760
I know he's done a ton of stuff like Friday
957
00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:13.000
Night Lights and other things. I always think of him
958
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:15.800
or as like a football coach, I guess, and that's why.
959
00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:22.239
But right, he does give football coach or off off
960
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:25.239
of him. But like I think he could do like
961
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:30.880
the grumpy I'm too old for this Murtaw type.
962
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:34.519
Yeah, like for sure, Yeah, yeah, I'm too old for
963
00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:34.920
this ship.
964
00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:36.719
Yeah I see that.
965
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:38.039
Well.
966
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:41.119
Also another thing that like I'm looking forward to.
967
00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:46.239
Is Yeah, that's what I'm very curious about as well.
968
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:50.840
They mentioned there was a Hollywood Reporter article earlier today
969
00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:53.840
too that mentioned I think it was the Hollywood Reporter
970
00:49:53.960 --> 00:49:57.039
that it. They mentioned they wanted somebody more like obviously
971
00:49:57.119 --> 00:50:00.880
younger and more fresh face, So I would imagine that
972
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:03.840
means kind of an unknown, kind of an up and
973
00:50:03.880 --> 00:50:07.960
coming type actor. So I wonder what direction that goes in.
974
00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:12.119
No, yeah, no big facts, because I mean, just looking
975
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:14.519
off this casting, you can kind of expect him to
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be like of a younger, younger sorts.
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But also just when you talk about.
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Dynamics, whenever you hear about like a detective show or
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00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:27.000
buddy cop, it's always someone showing the other person in
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00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:27.480
the ropes.
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Right.
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For the most part, it is really hard to get
983
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a like a viewing of two cops where like they're
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both young guns, are both the same age.
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Especially when it's a detective maybe.
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A cop movie where it's like both of them are
987
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the same age, or a cop show. Like historically, I
988
00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:46.840
feel like those settings are usually the same age or
989
00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:49.480
roughly around the same age. But when you talk about detectives,
990
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:54.000
it's always you know, old bulls showing the young buff
991
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right like or something of that nature.
992
00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:59.280
There's usually an age difference of like a bigger gap.
993
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:03.320
Usually it's definitely the trope. It's definitely a trope that's
994
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used a lot.
995
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:05.440
Yeah, no, for sure.
996
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:07.760
So like I'm not saying like it has to be
997
00:51:08.039 --> 00:51:11.840
that trope because I guess if you look at two Detective, like,
998
00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:13.800
that's not really so much the case when you talk
999
00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:15.599
about the casting of those actors who.
1000
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Are in it. But you know, like that's just kind
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00:51:18.440 --> 00:51:19.960
of like what I'm seeing.
1002
00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:24.440
And also like I guess when you like, I guess classically,
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00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:28.159
when you think about like the lanterns, they usually look
1004
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:30.079
the same age, right, Like when you try to look
1005
00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:34.039
at something that has both Hal Jordan or John Stewart,
1006
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:36.320
even though it's animated for the most part of course,
1007
00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:38.719
but like you don't think of them having a big
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00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:39.599
age yat.
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00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:43.280
No, not typically I don't think so maybe just like
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00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:45.480
seeing this for the first time, like I wouldn't say
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00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:48.639
I have seen it on paper, but just understanding that
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00:51:48.920 --> 00:51:51.679
aspect of it to see how how far along we
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00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:54.239
will be there, because it's.
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00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:57.519
So crazy that of all people who was casted.
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00:51:57.719 --> 00:52:03.840
Going forward of any information was Guy Gardner before everybody else.
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00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:06.599
That's true, favor, that's true.
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So just and that.
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00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:11.639
Maybe is another aspect to as well, is that technically
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00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:14.480
we need to account for a whole nother lantern.
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00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:16.920
How does that play into it as well?
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00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:17.599
Uh.
1022
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:20.320
The other thing that we maybe have in the back
1023
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:23.159
of our minds on this is Boris kit who is
1024
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:25.039
a reporter for the Hollywood Reporter.
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00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:25.960
Uh.
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00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:30.000
He mentioned in his he tweeted, you know the story
1027
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:33.119
and then he quote tweeted his post and said, interesting
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00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:37.239
aspect to this colon. Chandler does not have a movie
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00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:41.079
component to his deal, according to my sources end quote.
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00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:43.159
Ah H.
1031
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:46.119
I was thinking, is this show even going to be,
1032
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:49.840
like I guess, technically connected to any movie properties, or
1033
00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:51.719
is this going to be like kind of what the
1034
00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:53.920
Batman is doing living in his own own No.
1035
00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:57.000
It's gonna it's gonna be connected to Superman next year
1036
00:52:57.119 --> 00:53:00.239
it's gonna be connected to the overarching universe. It's going
1037
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:03.679
to be That's why this one's key because it's supposed to.
1038
00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:08.239
Whatever they uncover in this mystery is also plays into
1039
00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:11.960
the greater, bigger story that they're telling. So they gotta
1040
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:12.760
get this one right.
1041
00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:14.440
Oh nice?
1042
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:17.400
Okay that knowing that I was kind of unaware of
1043
00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:20.639
that situation. So knowing that piece of information leaves me
1044
00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:22.639
in a good spot. And knowing that we're not going
1045
00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:25.280
to have, you know, multiple Lenarns running around and stuff.
1046
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:27.559
That's also kind of you know, we get a headache
1047
00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:29.320
of that, you know, every once in a while. But
1048
00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:32.480
understanding that, I kind of love the implications because that
1049
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:34.519
kind of puts the fire on everybody, right, But like
1050
00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:35.920
I said, I'm.
1051
00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:38.480
Not worried about it. We're gonna banger regardless of what.
1052
00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:42.280
So I kind of think that also means that I
1053
00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:46.360
think the John Stewart character will probably get movie things.
1054
00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:50.519
But that's because I wonder if hol Jordan doesn't make
1055
00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:51.480
it out of the series.
1056
00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:56.000
Oh I like that, you know, like I like that.
1057
00:53:56.119 --> 00:53:56.920
I like that a lot.
1058
00:53:57.039 --> 00:53:59.360
Maybe that's why we even have a guy, even though
1059
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:02.079
Guy Gardner technically a lot older.
1060
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:04.880
Too as well, right, like, yeah, because that's Nathan Fillion,
1061
00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:05.599
I think it is.
1062
00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:10.320
Yeah, I mean he doesn't look old. No, he's also
1063
00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:12.000
not the youngest guy on the block.
1064
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:15.440
Right exactly, He's he's in his mid to late fifties
1065
00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:16.400
I believe at this point.
1066
00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:18.599
So I mean he's that's the old guy Gardener.
1067
00:54:18.760 --> 00:54:20.800
Yeah, yeah, that's the old that's an old Guy Gardener.
1068
00:54:21.079 --> 00:54:22.440
But like also he's.
1069
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:24.599
Gonna be way too old to be sporting a haircut
1070
00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:27.519
like the way he usually does. So maybe they revamped
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00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:31.199
the Guy Gardner look and I have the the bowl
1072
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:32.800
cut pertar.
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00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:34.239
But you know, we will see.
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00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:37.920
Like I said, I feel like, of course, it being
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00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:41.760
you know, managed all by James Gunn and understanding what
1076
00:54:41.880 --> 00:54:46.280
he sees going on in this world, I'm going to
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00:54:46.360 --> 00:54:47.159
feel confident.
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00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:52.880
Last question, do you think we see other lanterns in
1079
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:55.960
this series, like a kill a Wog, like I mean,
1080
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:58.119
maybe Guy Gardner appears. Do you think we see a
1081
00:54:58.159 --> 00:55:00.320
lot of other lanterns or do you I think it
1082
00:55:01.079 --> 00:55:04.079
stays mostly with Hal Jordan and John Stewart.
1083
00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:07.239
They will definitely allude to everybody else, because first of all,
1084
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:11.639
it's the Latin core is not these two guys and guardians,
1085
00:55:11.719 --> 00:55:15.079
right Like, I think we'll see guardians for sure. I
1086
00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:19.880
think we will possibly see where all, you know, I
1087
00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:22.280
think we'll see the cast, to be honest with because
1088
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:24.079
if we don't like that, they're going to have to
1089
00:55:24.159 --> 00:55:28.079
build around a story that doesn't have a lot of lanterns,
1090
00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:29.960
which is going to be really hard to do because
1091
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historically speaking, whenever we see a green lantern or anybody,
1092
00:55:33.199 --> 00:55:36.199
he's going to reference you know, where they come from
1093
00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:39.360
or the you know their planet, and also reference how
1094
00:55:39.440 --> 00:55:42.159
you know it is a core technically, So I feel
1095
00:55:42.199 --> 00:55:44.199
that regardless, we're going to get at least it'll be
1096
00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:45.639
nice to get a kill, a walk. I'm not sure
1097
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:47.679
how much money they're spending on this, because if it's
1098
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:50.960
mostly going to be out of space, they're spending money, Like,
1099
00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:53.719
there's no way this is going to be a cheap
1100
00:55:53.920 --> 00:55:57.519
like thing that's going on whatsoever. So I'm led to
1101
00:55:57.639 --> 00:56:01.519
assume that we will at least get a partial amount
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00:56:01.800 --> 00:56:04.639
of you know, the set core. But I would go
1103
00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:10.519
even further and say we would even get more emotional
1104
00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:16.000
spectrums other than just the greenlantern. We will get another.
1105
00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:19.960
Color, oh yeah, like a yellow or red?
1106
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:20.480
Yeah.
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00:56:20.519 --> 00:56:23.880
No, for sure, Like I would expect a yellow before anything,
1108
00:56:23.960 --> 00:56:26.599
because the course, like and I'm putting it this way too,
1109
00:56:26.639 --> 00:56:29.440
with this casting, we have to at least believe that
1110
00:56:29.559 --> 00:56:31.960
Sinestro is no longer a part of the Green Line
1111
00:56:31.960 --> 00:56:35.239
and Corner as well either. Yeah, so if we get
1112
00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:39.599
older how Jordan, and also with maybe implicating that there's
1113
00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:42.360
no movies set for him, So if he does get
1114
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:44.480
for whatever reason killed off towards the end of this,
1115
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:50.679
they have a history where that's undeniable. They're a part
1116
00:56:50.760 --> 00:56:53.079
of each other's history. So with know how Jordan, there's
1117
00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:56.679
no reason to have a Seinestro. So I'm thinking that
1118
00:56:56.679 --> 00:56:59.000
Scenestro might also be a part of this. I'm not
1119
00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:00.960
saying that he's going to be the villain or anything,
1120
00:57:01.119 --> 00:57:04.920
but if he's not in the Lantern Corps, we have.
1121
00:57:04.960 --> 00:57:08.360
To assume that there is a yellow Lantern outfit.
1122
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:10.960
Yeah, I tend to agree with that.
1123
00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:13.599
I think I don't know how like it may be
1124
00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:17.719
a simple like mention or something like that, but probably
1125
00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:21.280
a tease or something along those lines to Sinestra would
1126
00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:22.519
be would be really cool.
1127
00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:23.960
Yeah, No, for sure.
1128
00:57:24.440 --> 00:57:26.960
Yeah, even if we don't get him casted or see
1129
00:57:26.960 --> 00:57:29.840
his face or whatever, the fact. Yeah, I think at
1130
00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:33.360
least saying something is the fact that oh, like, oh,
1131
00:57:33.559 --> 00:57:36.039
don't be like the one guy who left the core,
1132
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:38.039
don't be like the guy who you know, like.
1133
00:57:39.159 --> 00:57:41.440
Yeah, for sure, my car.
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00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:46.280
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