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You're listening to the Cairo Basics Podcast, the show dedicated to chiropractic practice
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success.
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Here's your host, Nick Fisher.
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All right.
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Hey, chiropractors, welcome back to another episode.
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Today I've got Heidi Reiter from Healthy Books and she's here to talk about bookkeeping and
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setting vision and helping set a streamline.
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So before we get into the content, I'd love to let Heidi introduce herself.
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Heidi, welcome to the show.
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Thank you.
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I really appreciate it.
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I'm honored to be here.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So before we get into the meat of the content, I would really love to tell us your story.
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How did you get into the bookkeeping space?
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How did that get into the chiropractic space?
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Connect those dots for us.
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What happened there?
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So it was kind of a roundabout situation.
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I started in, well, when I was younger, I loved helping my dad manage his receipts.
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He owned a construction company and I always wanted to help him with his receipts and organize
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everything.
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I loved it.
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So I thought about going to college for accounting, but I ended up going to college actually as
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a math educator.
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So I taught for a year, I ended up pregnant and I wanted to stay home with my baby and
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you can't do that when you're a teacher.
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So I was like, what am I passionate about that I can do from home and still make a difference
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in the world?
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So I found a bookkeeping course, started my business and decided I wanted to niche in
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chiropractors because of the way they had changed my life.
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When I was a teenager, I had headaches like every day and I thought it was normal.
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I thought that was what everybody had until I ended up getting in a car accident and had
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severe whiplash.
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So I found a chiropractor there and went headache free after like the second visit and I was
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amazed.
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I was like, is this real?
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And so I've just, I've loved the, what the chiropractic community does, the lives that
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change get changed because of it.
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And I wanted to give back to that.
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I wanted to support that and I definitely cannot be a chiropractor.
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So my version of supporting is using my talents to help them.
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Yeah, I love that.
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It's so common to hear those stories where people had an issue for themselves or a family
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member and chiropractic was the solution and that's how they got involved in the space.
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So I'm glad you're okay from the headaches and the car accident.
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I'm glad it wasn't anything major.
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Well, that's really great.
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So when you're working, you obviously work with a lot of chiropractors working on their
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books and all the things to help their business flourish.
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What are some of the biggest challenges that you see chiropractors face with their business
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and their money and the finances and stuff like that?
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Or maybe another way to say that is what are some of the most common mistakes you see doctors
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making with their business?
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Doctors go to school for being the doctor but sometimes the financial side and the business
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side is new to them.
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So can you tell us a little bit about some of the stuff that you see with the practices
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that you work with?
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I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head is the education piece isn't there for
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running a business.
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It's obviously there for being a chiropractor, perfecting your craft and all of that.
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But the whole business side of it is not touched on or if so, it is barely scratched the surface.
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So I see a lot of actual and I don't know if this is just lately because of the whole
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everything is turned on its head.
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But I see a lot of decision fatigue.
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So there's a lot of burnout.
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There's a lot of just unsureity.
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I don't know if I'm doing the best thing.
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I don't know if what I'm doing is right, if it's the most effective.
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I mean they're obviously confident in how they're serving their patients and their clients
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but when it comes to running their business, there's a lack of confidence and that wears
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on a person after a while.
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So I'd probably say decision fatigue is the biggest thing that I see, the biggest challenge
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that I see right now.
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Gotcha.
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Yeah, that makes sense.
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When you're running a business, you have tons of decisions to make every single day and
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that can be really challenging when you're trying to focus on patient care and being
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the doctor and providing that the excellent service.
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So especially when it comes to looking at the long term view, making decisions that
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are going to help you in the future.
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So setting that vision and stuff.
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So can you talk to me a little bit more about how that impacts the business over time and
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how it helps doctors reach their goals and that type of stuff?
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Yeah, so just a side note about decisions.
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So like I looked it up and apparently the average person makes roughly like 35,000 decisions
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in a day and that's got to be more.
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That has to be more for a business owner because like not only do you have the average everyday
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decisions, but you have to make decisions for other people.
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I mean when you're running a business, especially when you have staff and you have a team, like
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you're running decisions that affect other people's lives.
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And so not only do you have the weight of that decision, but you also have the weight
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of making that decision for other people.
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And that's probably one of the things I like to compare it to is taking a road trip or
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a vacation.
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So you take a vacation, you figure out where you want to go, right?
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So most chiropractors that I talk to, they have a rough idea of where they want to be.
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Maybe it's a one year where I want to be in one year or three years.
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They have a rough idea, but it's like figuring out where you want to go on vacation and then
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trying to go without a map.
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So every intersection you come to, you have to decide, okay, am I going straight?
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Am I turning left?
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Am I turning right?
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And every decision becomes bigger and bigger because you're guessing, right?
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And you're not sure, are you going to land where you wanted to go?
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Are you going to get there the quickest or most effective or are you going to have to
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turn around?
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All those different things that you're guessing.
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You're guessing at every decision point, every intersection.
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But when you have that map, it takes the guesswork out and you just know, okay, when I come to
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this intersection, I'm going to do this.
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And that's really what having a clear vision can do for you.
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If you just have a general idea of where you want to land, it doesn't help you in your
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daily decisions.
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Whereas if you have a clear, descript vision, you then can put all those mile markers in.
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You can put all those decision points so that you can track and say, okay, am I on target
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for this?
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And it serves as a filter so that when you have all of these opportunities or all of
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these different things that you could work on, and sometimes you can ask yourself, is
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this good or is this bad?
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And it might be a good thing, but is it the best thing for you to do right now?
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And that's, as a business owner, you make a lot of decisions that are like, is this
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good or is this bad?
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Is this going to help me or not?
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But is it the best thing you can do right now?
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And that's what a clear vision can help you determine if now is the time or if you need
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to wait a little bit because you have a different goal that is actually more important at this
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exact moment.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And sometimes those decisions are tough to make because if you don't set your goals and
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work backwards from where you want to be in setting those milestones and setting dates
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and setting numbers financially for your practice, it can be tough to know, do I turn right?
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Do I turn left?
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Or do I turn right?
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And sometimes it's a little bit of a stray, like setting, getting yourself set up for
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success by implementing a roadmap, by working backwards from where you want to go.
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Isn't that right?
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Yeah.
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So I usually say it's easiest to start with what you don't want because most people can
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figure that out a lot faster.
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And it's funny how you sit down and you think, okay, what do I want?
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And you can think, I don't know, there's all these different things you want, but if you
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start with what you don't want, maybe you don't want to be working in the office five
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days a week.
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Some doctors are doing six days a week, right?
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Maybe you don't wanna do that.
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Maybe you, and then you work back into,
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okay, so then what do I want?
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If I don't wanna work six days a week,
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how many days do I wanna work?
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And then, you know, that's just the basics.
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That's just the start.
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And then I recommend you dream on from there.
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So like, what would be,
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you don't wanna make your vision like too unattainable,
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but you also don't wanna limit yourself.
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You know, if you're just limiting yourself to,
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well, I think I might have to work five days a week.
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No, if you really wanna work less than that,
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imagine, you know, put your vision at four days a week.
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And if you don't hit it,
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at least you're closer to it now
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than you were when you started.
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You know, so make your dreams big.
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Make your dreams like emotional.
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And that's one of the things that I think
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gets missed a lot in business,
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especially when you're thinking about finances
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and you're thinking about bookkeeping.
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A lot of people think, okay, numbers are just,
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they're just numbers.
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You can't argue them.
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You can't change them.
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You know, they're just numbers, right?
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But in a way, you have to find how to tie them into emotion
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because if we're just using our logical side of the mind,
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it's not going to, we're not gonna stick to it as well
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as if it's also tied into our emotions.
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So when you dream on and you really imagine,
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how am I gonna feel?
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What am I gonna do?
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What am I gonna do if I'm not working six days a week?
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What can I do?
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Can I spend more time with my family?
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Can I go hiking?
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Can I go camping?
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Whatever it is that you really enjoy doing
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and keep that in your mind
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when you go to make those decisions.
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Like, is this taking me to that camping trip
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and tie it into the emotion?
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So you're more likely, you're more committed,
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I guess you could say.
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You're more committed to making that vision a reality
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in the tough, because obviously every season
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has its tough spots.
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And so when you get to those tough spots
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and you wanna scrap the whole thing
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and do whatever's easiest at the moment,
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tying it into the emotion when you first set your vision
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is really gonna help it stick.
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Yeah, it's funny you brought up
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the emotional side of things.
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Obviously we all know that decisions are driven
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by your emotions and being able to tie your decision-making
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to emotions, there's actually a book,
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one of my favorite books is Star With Why
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by Simon Sinek and he talks just about that,
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the golden circle, right?
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You have to start with why are you doing this
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in the first place?
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Like what is this decision gonna lead to
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and why are you making this decision?
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For every little decision that you make for your practice
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and for your growth and for your business as a whole,
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for your team, for your patients.
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So yeah, I mean, so from your perspective,
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obviously you focus more on the financial side of things.
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How are you helping chiropractors find that vision
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and set those goals where they can be realistic,
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but also get them to where they wanna be
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and how, do you have any tips and tricks for them
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to set those milestones and set those goals appropriately
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so that way they can make those decisions
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to get to where they wanna go?
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Yes, it comes down to like how you segment it.
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So kind of as you mentioned in the beginning,
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you have to back into it.
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So you start with the big picture stuff.
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Like I said, like if you wanna cut back
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on how much time you're in the office, okay?
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Generically thinking about that,
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how does that affect your numbers?
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Okay, it affects profit when you are in the office.
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You need to increase your profit
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so that you're not losing out on revenue
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just because you're not in the office.
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Cause obviously when you're not in the office,
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you're not making money, right?
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So you need to figure out how to optimize your profit
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when you are in the office so that when you have time off,
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it's not affecting your bottom line.
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Then other things can be additional revenue streams
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or you wanna cut back on your hours worked a week.
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So you can count that as one of your numbers.
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So you basically want to be able to assign a number value,
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whether it's hours or number of patients
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or revenue benchmarks.
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Like you have to assign a number
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to those different segments
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that are basically stepping stones
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to get you to that bigger vision.
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And I usually recommend cutting it down into quarters
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because for some reason our mind
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doesn't really imagine past 90 day marks.
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when we're really thinking about it.
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but it isn't as real and as driven
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as when we break it into quarters.
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Cause in the next 90 days,
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I can fully picture myself doing stuff
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in the next 90 days, right?
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That's kind of easy.
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it gets a little bit too vague.
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So I always recommend like breaking it up into segments.
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You set your vision for a year
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and then you break it up into quarters and figure out,
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okay, I need to be at this revenue amount
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by the end of this quarter so that in my next quarter,
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I can meet this revenue amount and so on.
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or whatever your metric is for your goal,
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you have to break it into quarters.
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And then you can track in your books,
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in your system that you're using for your,
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whether it's Kyro Touch or whatever it is,
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like that you're using to track your patients
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and amount per patient and all that kind of stuff.
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You can use any of those numbers to help you track
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and see if you're on targets.
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Yeah, so figuring out the right KPIs,
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setting the goals for those KPIs
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and then working backwards to make sure
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that you can set a plan in motion
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to hit those milestones in time segments.
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And you said quarters is probably best.
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I think of myself, 90 days is accurate for my own life
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because that's about as far out as I can book my calendar
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before things get too far away where things could change
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and I could have a different mindset by then and whatnot.
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So yeah, 90 days does feel right,
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breaking it down into those chunks
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and then making the decisions to move the needles
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for the KPI in the right direction,
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making sure that you can set those goals and milestones
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and hit them as you progress with your business.
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That's really great insight.
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And a great resource for this, I love to read.
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So I'm like always reading business books,
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but a really good book for that is
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Measure What Matters by John Doar.
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He worked with Google, YouTube, Zoom, Pizza,
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a few of the bigger companies
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and implemented OKRs is what he calls them,
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their objectives and key results.
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But he really talks about setting that vision
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and then setting your key results,
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which in this case would be your metrics or your KPIs.
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And really, especially when you have a team,
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figuring out how to trickle it down to your team.
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So everybody's accountable and on board
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and willing to work towards that vision.
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Yeah, that's a great one.
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Do you have any other resources
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that doctors might be able to tap into
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when it comes to the bookkeeping or the finances
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or setting those goals and visions
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and making sure it's realistic for their practice?
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Do you have anything that you help resources
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available for doctors?
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The Vivid Vision by Cameron Harold
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is a little lesser known,
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but he goes really into detail about how to
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really drill down on tying that emotion to the logic
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and separating your visions or not really separating,
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but working backwards.
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So even start with a longer,
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maybe a three year vision and work backwards.
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And a couple of things that I forgot to add earlier
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that I like to note is celebration
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and the importance of celebration in your vision.
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So a lot of people, you get,
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I find most business owners are very driven.
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And so you accomplish one thing
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and then you just immediately move on to the next thing.
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It's so important to keep a vivid vision in front of you
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so that you can know when to celebrate for one,
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because sometimes we just get so involved
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in doing the stuff that we forget,
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hey, this was one of my goals
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and it seemed unattainable at the time,
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but here I am slaying it, moving on to my next thing.
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So you have to take time to celebrate how far you've come
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and to even like be intentional
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about looking at how far you've come.
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And that's another thing I think that vision
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and keeping it visible in front of you helps with,
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because you do see, you see that,
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oh, this seemed like a really stretch goal for me
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back in the day and now here I am,
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10 times what I thought I would be doing at that point.
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So it's just a lot of people overlook celebration
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because we just have the next thing to work on,
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but we have to take the time to celebrate and then move on.
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Yeah, that's a really key point too,
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especially when you have team members,
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because obviously you wanna celebrate
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the milestones that you hit,
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but you also wanna celebrate your team members
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and the actions that they took
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to help the practice get there.
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Having good team members is a big portion
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of the success of the practice
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and being able to celebrate with them and encourage them
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and give them that positive reinforcement
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is a good reminder to help them continue to work hard
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towards those goals and the vision
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that you've set for the practice
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and making sure you communicate with the team
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and making sure everybody's rowing the boat
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in the same direction, so to speak.
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Well, and communication, just like you said,
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communication is a huge factor
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in that because a lot of times teams can feel
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like they are just working,
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like they're just working on what's in front of them
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and they're not even sure like where,
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what the direction is,
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and especially for practices that are growing fast,
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obviously that's a good thing,
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but it can also be a lot harder to be intentional
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about setting your vision
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and then communicating it with your team
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because you're just doing the next thing
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that has to be done, right?
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And your team is the same way,
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they're just accomplishing what has to be done
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because there's deadlines on it.
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People are waiting for this,
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people are in the waiting room
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or people are doing it, you know,
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so they just do what's in front of them
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without seeing the bigger picture
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and so it's so important, just like you said,
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to communicate that with your team
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so that they can be fully invested.
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And it's, I mean, it's an, again, back to the emotion,
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it's an emotional investment,
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which sometimes is a bigger incentive
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to retain employees than money can be
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because if they feel like they're part of a bigger picture
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making a difference in their community,
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they're personally going to stick it out
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no matter how tough it is
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or if there's a better job opportunity.
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If they are on board with your mission and your vision
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and they wanna be a part of that,
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they're gonna stick with you
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and that's important right now
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because I mean, employee retention
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can be difficult right now.
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Yeah, definitely and finding good people,
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like if you have good people,
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you definitely wanna make sure
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that they feel important and valued
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and you give them that positive reinforcement
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and all the things that are gonna help build
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and grow that team into practice.
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So also really good insights.
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Thanks for sharing.
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Let's see, so if someone,
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if a doctor needed support with their books
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or they had questions, do you,
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what's the best way for them to get in touch with you?
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Do you have resources available for them?
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What do you recommend for doctors
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that are looking for help on getting their books clean,
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setting those numerical goal values
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and setting those visions and those types of things?
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What do you have for doctors looking for that?
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So I love to chat with people
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and I always say, I love my consultations,
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they're free consultations
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because I don't go into them expecting new clients
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and I don't want chiropractors to come into it
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thinking I'm gonna try to sell them.
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I am in this industry and serving chiropractors
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because I love what they do.
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They make a difference in the community
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and I wanna be a part of that,
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whether I'm your bookkeeper
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or whether we just have a conversation
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and help get you on track
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and understanding where you wanna go
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because sometimes you just have to talk with somebody
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to really figure out your vision.
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Like you can feel stuck and you can talk with somebody
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that can ask the right questions or dig a little deeper
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and you start to have these revelations to yourself,
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oh wait, that is what I want.
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So I just really love to have the conversation
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so reach out to me at Heidi at healthybookslc.com
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or come to my website, I have healthybookslc.com,
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you can schedule a free consultation on there.
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Basically just, I mean, my phone number's on there,
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my email's on there, just reach out just to chat.
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If you just need, business ownership is lonely,
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let's be real, it is so lonely.
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You sometimes just need someone to talk to
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and that's what I love about my job
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is just talking to people and being a part of their vision,
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being a part of where they wanna go.
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I also have a 20 minute free masterclass
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it's called the Super Simple Bookkeeping System,
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just a fancy name for really just me talking
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a little bit more about this,
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where I go into a little bit more of the details
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of like how you can use your financial statements,
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how you can make sure they're right, how you can,
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because it's all great and good
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if you wanna go use your numbers,
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but if your numbers aren't right first
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or if you don't understand them all the way,
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you won't be able to use them effectively.
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So that class kind of explains
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how to make sure your numbers are right,
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how to use them and a few other things
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that you can use to, yeah,
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just kind of nail down your system in your business.
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That's great, awesome.
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So doctors, the masterclass,
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Super Simple Bookkeeping System for chiropractors,
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sounds like it's only a 20 minute investment and it's free.
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So go check that out,
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we'll make sure that you got the link in the description
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and then we'll also make sure you got Heidi's email.
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So if you wanted that one-on-one consultation
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to help get a clear vision set for the numbers
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and the finances and where you wanna go with your business,
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she's there for you, this is great.
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Heidi, anything else that you wanted to add
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before we kind of wrap things up for today?
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Just remember, one, celebrating is super important.
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You've been invested in this business
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and no one else but you is gonna remind yourself
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to stop and celebrate it.
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So you've got to celebrate the differences
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that you are making,
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you have to be intentional about seeing that
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and don't be afraid to let your vision change
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because it might change.
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You might have a one-year vision for now
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and then you get 30 days down the road
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and you're like, well, I think I wanna change that.
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And that's fine, you don't have to be afraid of that,
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just change it and change your course and change your KPIs
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and you're on the road again.
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So celebrating and not being afraid of change, I guess,
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are some big keys to remember.
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That's really great advice, I love that.
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So Heidi, thank you so much for joining us
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and talking about this stuff,
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super, super valuable information.
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I really, really appreciate your time.
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Well, I'm so honored that you asked me
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and that we got to hang out
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and I just really appreciate it, thank you.
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Yeah, absolutely, Chiropractors, if you need anything,
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obviously we are here for you.
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So thanks so much and we'll see you on the next one.
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You're listening to the Cairo Basics Podcast, the show dedicated to chiropractic practice
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success.
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Here's your host, Nick Fisher.
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All right.
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Hey, chiropractors, welcome back to another episode.
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Today I've got Heidi Reiter from Healthy Books and she's here to talk about bookkeeping and
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setting vision and helping set a streamline.
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So before we get into the content, I'd love to let Heidi introduce herself.
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Heidi, welcome to the show.
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Thank you.
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I really appreciate it.
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I'm honored to be here.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So before we get into the meat of the content, I would really love to tell us your story.
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How did you get into the bookkeeping space?
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How did that get into the chiropractic space?
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Connect those dots for us.
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What happened there?
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So it was kind of a roundabout situation.
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I started in, well, when I was younger, I loved helping my dad manage his receipts.
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He owned a construction company and I always wanted to help him with his receipts and organize
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everything.
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I loved it.
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So I thought about going to college for accounting, but I ended up going to college actually as
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a math educator.
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So I taught for a year, I ended up pregnant and I wanted to stay home with my baby and
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you can't do that when you're a teacher.
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in the world?
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So I found a bookkeeping course, started my business and decided I wanted to niche in
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chiropractors because of the way they had changed my life.
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When I was a teenager, I had headaches like every day and I thought it was normal.
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I thought that was what everybody had until I ended up getting in a car accident and had
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severe whiplash.
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amazed.
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I was like, is this real?
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And so I've just, I've loved the, what the chiropractic community does, the lives that
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change get changed because of it.
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And I wanted to give back to that.
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I wanted to support that and I definitely cannot be a chiropractor.
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So my version of supporting is using my talents to help them.
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Yeah, I love that.
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It's so common to hear those stories where people had an issue for themselves or a family
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member and chiropractic was the solution and that's how they got involved in the space.
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So I'm glad you're okay from the headaches and the car accident.
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I'm glad it wasn't anything major.
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Well, that's really great.
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So when you're working, you obviously work with a lot of chiropractors working on their
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books and all the things to help their business flourish.
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What are some of the biggest challenges that you see chiropractors face with their business
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and their money and the finances and stuff like that?
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Or maybe another way to say that is what are some of the most common mistakes you see doctors
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making with their business?
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Doctors go to school for being the doctor but sometimes the financial side and the business
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side is new to them.
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So can you tell us a little bit about some of the stuff that you see with the practices
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that you work with?
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I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head is the education piece isn't there for
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running a business.
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It's obviously there for being a chiropractor, perfecting your craft and all of that.
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But the whole business side of it is not touched on or if so, it is barely scratched the surface.
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So I see a lot of actual and I don't know if this is just lately because of the whole
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everything is turned on its head.
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I don't know if I'm doing the best thing.
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I don't know if what I'm doing is right, if it's the most effective.
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I mean they're obviously confident in how they're serving their patients and their clients
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but when it comes to running their business, there's a lack of confidence and that wears
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on a person after a while.
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that I see right now.
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When you're running a business, you have tons of decisions to make every single day and
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that can be really challenging when you're trying to focus on patient care and being
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the doctor and providing that the excellent service.
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are going to help you in the future.
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how it helps doctors reach their goals and that type of stuff?
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in a day and that's got to be more.
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decisions, but you have to make decisions for other people.
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you're running decisions that affect other people's lives.
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of making that decision for other people.
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a vacation.
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So you take a vacation, you figure out where you want to go, right?
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Maybe it's a one year where I want to be in one year or three years.
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trying to go without a map.
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Am I turning left?
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Am I turning right?
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Are you going to get there the quickest or most effective or are you going to have to
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turn around?
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All those different things that you're guessing.
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You're guessing at every decision point, every intersection.
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this intersection, I'm going to do this.
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If you just have a general idea of where you want to land, it doesn't help you in your
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daily decisions.
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Whereas if you have a clear, descript vision, you then can put all those mile markers in.
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for this?
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these different things that you could work on, and sometimes you can ask yourself, is
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this good or is this bad?
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And it might be a good thing, but is it the best thing for you to do right now?
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good or is this bad?
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Is this going to help me or not?
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to wait a little bit because you have a different goal that is actually more important at this
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exact moment.
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And sometimes those decisions are tough to make because if you don't set your goals and
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work backwards from where you want to be in setting those milestones and setting dates
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and setting numbers financially for your practice, it can be tough to know, do I turn right?
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Do I turn left?
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Or do I turn right?
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success by implementing a roadmap, by working backwards from where you want to go.
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Isn't that right?
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figure that out a lot faster.
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And it's funny how you sit down and you think, okay, what do I want?
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start with what you don't want, maybe you don't want to be working in the office five
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days a week.
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Some doctors are doing six days a week, right?
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Maybe you, and then you work back into,
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okay, so then what do I want?
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how many days do I wanna work?
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That's just the start.
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you don't wanna make your vision like too unattainable,
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but you also don't wanna limit yourself.
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well, I think I might have to work five days a week.
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imagine, you know, put your vision at four days a week.
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at least you're closer to it now
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than you were when you started.
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Make your dreams like emotional.
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gets missed a lot in business,
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especially when you're thinking about finances
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and you're thinking about bookkeeping.
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A lot of people think, okay, numbers are just,
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they're just numbers.
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You can't argue them.
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You can't change them.
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You know, they're just numbers, right?
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because if we're just using our logical side of the mind,
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it's not going to, we're not gonna stick to it as well
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as if it's also tied into our emotions.
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how am I gonna feel?
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What am I gonna do?
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What am I gonna do if I'm not working six days a week?
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What can I do?
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Can I spend more time with my family?
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Can I go hiking?
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Can I go camping?
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Whatever it is that you really enjoy doing
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and keep that in your mind
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when you go to make those decisions.
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Like, is this taking me to that camping trip
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and tie it into the emotion?
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So you're more likely, you're more committed,
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I guess you could say.
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You're more committed to making that vision a reality
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in the tough, because obviously every season
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has its tough spots.
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and you wanna scrap the whole thing
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and do whatever's easiest at the moment,
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tying it into the emotion when you first set your vision
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is really gonna help it stick.
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the emotional side of things.
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Obviously we all know that decisions are driven
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by your emotions and being able to tie your decision-making
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to emotions, there's actually a book,
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one of my favorite books is Star With Why
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by Simon Sinek and he talks just about that,
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the golden circle, right?
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You have to start with why are you doing this
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in the first place?
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Like what is this decision gonna lead to
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and why are you making this decision?
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For every little decision that you make for your practice
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and for your growth and for your business as a whole,
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for your team, for your patients.
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So yeah, I mean, so from your perspective,
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obviously you focus more on the financial side of things.
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How are you helping chiropractors find that vision
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and set those goals where they can be realistic,
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but also get them to where they wanna be
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and how, do you have any tips and tricks for them
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to set those milestones and set those goals appropriately
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so that way they can make those decisions
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to get to where they wanna go?
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So kind of as you mentioned in the beginning,
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you have to back into it.
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So you start with the big picture stuff.
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Like I said, like if you wanna cut back
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on how much time you're in the office, okay?
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Generically thinking about that,
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how does that affect your numbers?
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Okay, it affects profit when you are in the office.
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You need to increase your profit
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so that you're not losing out on revenue
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just because you're not in the office.
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Cause obviously when you're not in the office,
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you're not making money, right?
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when you are in the office so that when you have time off,
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it's not affecting your bottom line.
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Then other things can be additional revenue streams
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or you wanna cut back on your hours worked a week.
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So you can count that as one of your numbers.
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whether it's hours or number of patients
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or revenue benchmarks.
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Like you have to assign a number
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to those different segments
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that are basically stepping stones
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to get you to that bigger vision.
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And I usually recommend cutting it down into quarters
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because for some reason our mind
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doesn't really imagine past 90 day marks.
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when we're really thinking about it.
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but it isn't as real and as driven
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as when we break it into quarters.
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Cause in the next 90 days,
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I can fully picture myself doing stuff
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in the next 90 days, right?
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That's kind of easy.
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it gets a little bit too vague.
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and then you break it up into quarters and figure out,
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okay, I need to be at this revenue amount
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by the end of this quarter so that in my next quarter,
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I can meet this revenue amount and so on.
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or whatever your metric is for your goal,
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you have to break it into quarters.
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And then you can track in your books,
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in your system that you're using for your,
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whether it's Kyro Touch or whatever it is,
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like that you're using to track your patients
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and amount per patient and all that kind of stuff.
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You can use any of those numbers to help you track
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and see if you're on targets.
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Yeah, so figuring out the right KPIs,
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setting the goals for those KPIs
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and then working backwards to make sure
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that you can set a plan in motion
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to hit those milestones in time segments.
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And you said quarters is probably best.
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I think of myself, 90 days is accurate for my own life
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because that's about as far out as I can book my calendar
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before things get too far away where things could change
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and I could have a different mindset by then and whatnot.
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So yeah, 90 days does feel right,
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breaking it down into those chunks
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and then making the decisions to move the needles
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for the KPI in the right direction,
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making sure that you can set those goals and milestones
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and hit them as you progress with your business.
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That's really great insight.
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And a great resource for this, I love to read.
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So I'm like always reading business books,
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but a really good book for that is
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Measure What Matters by John Doar.
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He worked with Google, YouTube, Zoom, Pizza,
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a few of the bigger companies
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and implemented OKRs is what he calls them,
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their objectives and key results.
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But he really talks about setting that vision
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and then setting your key results,
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which in this case would be your metrics or your KPIs.
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And really, especially when you have a team,
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figuring out how to trickle it down to your team.
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So everybody's accountable and on board
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and willing to work towards that vision.
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Yeah, that's a great one.
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Do you have any other resources
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that doctors might be able to tap into
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when it comes to the bookkeeping or the finances
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or setting those goals and visions
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and making sure it's realistic for their practice?
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Do you have anything that you help resources
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available for doctors?
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The Vivid Vision by Cameron Harold
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is a little lesser known,
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but he goes really into detail about how to
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really drill down on tying that emotion to the logic
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and separating your visions or not really separating,
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but working backwards.
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So even start with a longer,
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maybe a three year vision and work backwards.
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And a couple of things that I forgot to add earlier
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that I like to note is celebration
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and the importance of celebration in your vision.
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So a lot of people, you get,
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I find most business owners are very driven.
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And so you accomplish one thing
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and then you just immediately move on to the next thing.
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It's so important to keep a vivid vision in front of you
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so that you can know when to celebrate for one,
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because sometimes we just get so involved
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in doing the stuff that we forget,
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hey, this was one of my goals
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and it seemed unattainable at the time,
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but here I am slaying it, moving on to my next thing.
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So you have to take time to celebrate how far you've come
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and to even like be intentional
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about looking at how far you've come.
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And that's another thing I think that vision
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and keeping it visible in front of you helps with,
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because you do see, you see that,
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oh, this seemed like a really stretch goal for me
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back in the day and now here I am,
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10 times what I thought I would be doing at that point.
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So it's just a lot of people overlook celebration
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because we just have the next thing to work on,
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but we have to take the time to celebrate and then move on.
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Yeah, that's a really key point too,
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especially when you have team members,
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because obviously you wanna celebrate
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the milestones that you hit,
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but you also wanna celebrate your team members
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and the actions that they took
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to help the practice get there.
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Having good team members is a big portion
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of the success of the practice
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and being able to celebrate with them and encourage them
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and give them that positive reinforcement
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is a good reminder to help them continue to work hard
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towards those goals and the vision
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that you've set for the practice
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and making sure you communicate with the team
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and making sure everybody's rowing the boat
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in the same direction, so to speak.
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Well, and communication, just like you said,
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communication is a huge factor
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in that because a lot of times teams can feel
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like they are just working,
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like they're just working on what's in front of them
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and they're not even sure like where,
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what the direction is,
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and especially for practices that are growing fast,
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obviously that's a good thing,
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but it can also be a lot harder to be intentional
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about setting your vision
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and then communicating it with your team
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because you're just doing the next thing
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that has to be done, right?
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And your team is the same way,
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they're just accomplishing what has to be done
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because there's deadlines on it.
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People are waiting for this,
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people are in the waiting room
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or people are doing it, you know,
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so they just do what's in front of them
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without seeing the bigger picture
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and so it's so important, just like you said,
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to communicate that with your team
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so that they can be fully invested.
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And it's, I mean, it's an, again, back to the emotion,
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it's an emotional investment,
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which sometimes is a bigger incentive
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to retain employees than money can be
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because if they feel like they're part of a bigger picture
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making a difference in their community,
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they're personally going to stick it out
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no matter how tough it is
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or if there's a better job opportunity.
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If they are on board with your mission and your vision
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and they wanna be a part of that,
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they're gonna stick with you
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and that's important right now
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because I mean, employee retention
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can be difficult right now.
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Yeah, definitely and finding good people,
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like if you have good people,
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you definitely wanna make sure
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that they feel important and valued
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and you give them that positive reinforcement
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and all the things that are gonna help build
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and grow that team into practice.
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So also really good insights.
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Thanks for sharing.
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Let's see, so if someone,
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if a doctor needed support with their books
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or they had questions, do you,
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what's the best way for them to get in touch with you?
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Do you have resources available for them?
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What do you recommend for doctors
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that are looking for help on getting their books clean,
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setting those numerical goal values
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and setting those visions and those types of things?
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What do you have for doctors looking for that?
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So I love to chat with people
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and I always say, I love my consultations,
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they're free consultations
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because I don't go into them expecting new clients
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and I don't want chiropractors to come into it
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thinking I'm gonna try to sell them.
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I am in this industry and serving chiropractors
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because I love what they do.
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They make a difference in the community
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and I wanna be a part of that,
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whether I'm your bookkeeper
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or whether we just have a conversation
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and help get you on track
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and understanding where you wanna go
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because sometimes you just have to talk with somebody
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to really figure out your vision.
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Like you can feel stuck and you can talk with somebody
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that can ask the right questions or dig a little deeper
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and you start to have these revelations to yourself,
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oh wait, that is what I want.
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So I just really love to have the conversation
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so reach out to me at Heidi at healthybookslc.com
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or come to my website, I have healthybookslc.com,
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you can schedule a free consultation on there.
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Basically just, I mean, my phone number's on there,
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my email's on there, just reach out just to chat.
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If you just need, business ownership is lonely,
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let's be real, it is so lonely.
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You sometimes just need someone to talk to
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and that's what I love about my job
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is just talking to people and being a part of their vision,
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being a part of where they wanna go.
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I also have a 20 minute free masterclass
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it's called the Super Simple Bookkeeping System,
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just a fancy name for really just me talking
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a little bit more about this,
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where I go into a little bit more of the details
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of like how you can use your financial statements,
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how you can make sure they're right, how you can,
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because it's all great and good
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if you wanna go use your numbers,
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but if your numbers aren't right first
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or if you don't understand them all the way,
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you won't be able to use them effectively.
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So that class kind of explains
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how to make sure your numbers are right,
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how to use them and a few other things
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that you can use to, yeah,
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just kind of nail down your system in your business.
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That's great, awesome.
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So doctors, the masterclass,
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Super Simple Bookkeeping System for chiropractors,
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sounds like it's only a 20 minute investment and it's free.
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So go check that out,
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we'll make sure that you got the link in the description
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and then we'll also make sure you got Heidi's email.
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So if you wanted that one-on-one consultation
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to help get a clear vision set for the numbers
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and the finances and where you wanna go with your business,
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she's there for you, this is great.
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Heidi, anything else that you wanted to add
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before we kind of wrap things up for today?
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Just remember, one, celebrating is super important.
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You've been invested in this business
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and no one else but you is gonna remind yourself
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to stop and celebrate it.
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So you've got to celebrate the differences
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that you are making,
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you have to be intentional about seeing that
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and don't be afraid to let your vision change
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because it might change.
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You might have a one-year vision for now
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and then you get 30 days down the road
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and you're like, well, I think I wanna change that.
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And that's fine, you don't have to be afraid of that,
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just change it and change your course and change your KPIs
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and you're on the road again.
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So celebrating and not being afraid of change, I guess,
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are some big keys to remember.
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That's really great advice, I love that.
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So Heidi, thank you so much for joining us
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and talking about this stuff,
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super, super valuable information.
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I really, really appreciate your time.
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Well, I'm so honored that you asked me
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and that we got to hang out
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and I just really appreciate it, thank you.
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Yeah, absolutely, Chiropractors, if you need anything,
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obviously we are here for you.
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So thanks so much and we'll see you on the next one.
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