EP 71: Jenny West

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The next guest on Show With's own podcast is a
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two time Challenge champion. We lost talk to her I
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think in like twenty nineteen, twenty twenty after War of
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the World's Too total madness. So it's been a while,
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but we have Jenny West. Jenny, how are you doing today?
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Pays for Goods? Yeah, I think, thank you? How are you?
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I'm good, I'm good. I'm glad that we have you back.
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I'm excited to talk to Challenge, I'm excited to talk
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to your podcast and where you've been. And we just
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get right into it.
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Per fact, let's go.
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So I want to start off with just talking about
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kind of mental health check. You know, we haven't spoken
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to you in a couple of years, how have you
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been doing? How's life been going for you? Just just mentally,
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how you've been doing.
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Oh, honestly, I would actually say it's a interesting question
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for me because in the last year I've been doing
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a lot better.
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But like the couple years for that that kind of.
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Ties into your little time frame there is actually meantly
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been really challenging time for me and kind of just
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started easing up a little bit kind of back end
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of last year. But I love, I love that question,
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a little mental check, mental health check. Yeah, but it's
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I think it's it's a combination of multiple different things,
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and I think that for me, the most important thing
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is like keeping the people around me. The titles to
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Safe and Real Safest with you know that your family
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and your friends and your little one is really important
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if you're struggling mentally, like it's really important to surround
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yourself with those people.
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So yeah, So the last time we'll tell you, let's
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ignore season forty for one second was Total Man. Yeah,
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that was I think filmed in twenty nineteen. That's it
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aired in twenty twenty during COVID if I remember correctly. Yeah,
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what immediately after that, I think you said that you
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were called for double agents. The next season you flew
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the location and then you weren't used, right you talk
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about what seasons you were called for after that and
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what you.
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So if I can remember that my head, you're right.
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That was Iceland season thirty five, and I flew to
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Iceland and then I was alternated. That's two weeks. And
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what's interesting about that is, I mean, it wasn't the
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worst scenario ever. Obviously it's disappointed because I had my
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head measured for my helmet and everything, so you're geared
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and mentally you will really find yourself to go into
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like eight weeks of like mental torture and battle. And
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then I was taken out of the hotel and ushered
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to you know, a lovely, beautiful scenic kind of like
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villa type snow with a hot tub and a guide
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from Iceland who was making me cocktails all day. But
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then sent home oast two weeks and they rang me
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when I got to the airport, and I found out
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later one of the customers had just broken the form
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and they probably were about to.
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Call me in at the very last minute, but I
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was already I was immensely checked.
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I had two weeks to drinking cocktails.
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Interesting. Were you called for any seasons after that? Do
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you remember?
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Yes? I think I was so.
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I remember I was in Mobaya in twenty twenty three
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and they wanted me for All Stars.
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I don't know which one that would have been. It
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was around June.
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Time, but I just broke my hand and I said
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yes to it. I know, we're in the process of
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booking my flight to Mobay to London for the physical
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and then literally twodays later, I broke my hand and.
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Then I couldn't do it, so that one and then
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there was another one.
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I flew to South Africa I think in twenty twenty
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two around October time, and.
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Then Brad was alternated with me.
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Brad and I were We got in as being the
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main cast what I had I think he had been,
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so I was supposed to be in Castle. Then I
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was alternated there as well, So we spent two weeks
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drinking wine and eating Filet's steak.
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I'm playing I'm playing.
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From some security guy outside our bedroom doors.
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Yeah, that sounds like World Championship The plus one. Yeah,
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Jordan and Cash cross Through one I think, yeah, This
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is kind of a conspiracy theory in the Challenge universe, right,
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some people think they don't cast you every season because
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I mean, you would win every season, Like it wouldn't
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be everybody.
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I am very very reliable source who's literally spoke to
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production and one of the production casting members, hands up
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straight said, we were we can't just cash Jenny because
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you'll win and it's boring for the fear.
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Yeah, I don't know if it's boring, but I think
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you would win every season. I mean the way you
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dominated season forty. I mean I'm looking back at the
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other seasons right now and I'm like thinking, she would
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have won that season. She would have won that season,
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she would have won that Yeah.
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So when Jordan witnessed them consistently and a lot, and
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that's not boring with faith al right, exactly.
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Well, I don't think it'd be boring. I just think
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production wants to make like a new star sometimes. But
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what's your reaction to that to say, like, we don't
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want to cast you because you win every time? Like,
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what is your thoughts on that?
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Yeah, I mean.
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They've never even said that straight up to me, but
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I do believe from based on what I've heard as
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well and been said that is the case, and honestly,
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it's very It is flattering, right, How cool is that
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that they literally won't cast you because.
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They think you're gonna win. And I think that's why
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I was so excited for Forte.
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Because they I knew that they were going to be
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bringing on like the best, the best. I was excited
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to actually compete agates some goals that I knew had
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been on seasons I've never been able to compete against.
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So I was really excited that. I thought, well, it's just
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nice to then if I win that one, people can't
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say I was just lucky.
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With thirty four? Do you what I mean? You know,
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because it is a look can go into it.
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But I don't ever rely on like you know, making
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game plans or you know, getting connections with something. I
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just I just turned up and do the task in
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hand and like I just do my best. And so
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that was quite good to get called for Forte, to
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be able to kind of say, well, this is the best, now,
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so for win this one, then I am the best.
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Yeah for sure. Let's talk about So can you talk
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about when did you get the call for forty were
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you automatically like I'm doing it, I'm ready to go,
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or was there.
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No, Yeah, No, I wasn't two minds about doing it.
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I was in our relationship at the time that that
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the person wasn't wasn't really keen on me doing it.
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They really don't want me to go away for such
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a long period of time, which is a completely fair
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thing to say, because it can be wild.
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And I straight up said at the time, it's very.
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Likely I will be there for the for the long
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the whole thing just because of the last time I
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had been to thought well, and I backed myself, and
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you know, I know that I could know, so I said,
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I went through the emotions of it and told him
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we had put me down for it. But honestly, I
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don't think until like December January where I really thought
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I'm going to do it.
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I think I just didn't want to make.
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The opportunity as well, because it's a big season and
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I knew it was going to be a great chance
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for me to kind of like prove myself against the best,
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and so I also thought myself, well, if I don't
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do it, I'll always think what if. So it did
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take a few months for me to think, yeah, I'll
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definitely do it.
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I didn't think I even thought I would until I
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was even on the plane. I'll be honest. I turned
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up there, but I was like, it looks like I'm
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doing it.
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Well, let's talk before we get into season fourty and
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all of that. I want to go back to Total
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Manus really quick, because that season was so I don't
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know if controversial is the right word, but they locked
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you guys in a house with those nothing and then
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COVID hit. Right, Yeah, I think it would have been
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a huge deal if COVID never happened. But you guys
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were locked in this bunker basically, and then we got out,
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and then COVID hits and you guys are locked in
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your houses another year after that. Right. So a lot
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on that season talked about the PTSD of it basically,
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and like the trauma of that season. Did you feel
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any PTSD any trauma of that season and did any
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of that lead into season forty for you or were
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you kind of moved on past it Since it's been
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a couple of years.
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I think I'm the only cast member who absolutely enjoyed
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the bunker.
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Is that weird?
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Maybe? Maybe I don't know.
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There's safety and the fact that there's no windows, and
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like it's so you just I was accepting of my
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scenarios so fast.
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I was like, there's no point in thinking.
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I mean, I'm not from my hot punch of palm
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trees or the sun either, you know, so it's always
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nice to go forward so hot, right, But I think
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I felt like the cosiness of it, like I had
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tea club and biscuit club and then like you could
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you could just there was no there was no pressure
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like I need to go and get a tan because
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there's no sun, right, there's no team can go and
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get a tan. So I didn't hate it, you know,
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And that's weird.
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I think I think.
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I liked the simplicity of it.
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It kind of simplified things in a way for me.
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There was there's no distractions, there's even less distractions and
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then it is a really weird take and I think
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most people listen to the thing it's just crazy.
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But I didn't hate it. I could see everybody else
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hated it, and I don't. I don't know that maybe
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like gave me must with it as well. But I
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was like, it's cold, it's dark, it's most small. It's
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like England.
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And then coming out of that, I was just so
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excited to go to the shop and be able to
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buy a pot, like a pint of milk, because no,
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it sounds like you should have any things you missed.
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And I think that coming home, we had about two
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months until COVID really took a hold and things were
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closed down.
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And I know it sounds really weird.
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Again, I enjoyed the novelty of the whole of the
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whole thing, like the two meter distance thing you can't
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go outside.
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I don't know, it was like it was like it
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was a bit of a game.
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I kind of.
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Thrived, and He'll be honest, you must have had. That's
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how I like to get my kicks in the series,
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like the PTSD thing. The weirdest thing is will give
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you PTSD from the show. And that's the case for
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every season, not even it just being a bunker, like
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you can hear a certain horn sound and you like.
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That, oh my god, I've got to jump off a building.
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Now, and then you realize it's just someone else, like
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a dogborn training the dog in the street, and it's
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not TJ telling you to go and do X, Y
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and Z weird things are triggering interesting.
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All right, let's go back to forty then, So you
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get to forty, it's the biggest cast I think we've
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ever done. Right, there's forty people, twenty girls, twenty boys. No, yes, yes, yeah,
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and there's a lot of people you don't know right
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or you haven't met in person yet. So I want
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to play a quick of just first impressions. I'm gonna
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give you somebody's name, and can you tell me your
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first impression when you first met them? Okay, what's the
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first one? I have? Is third place? Michelle.
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She seemed like really friendly and normal, but I think
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by that point people had said to me, oh, you know,
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she was the one to not like to watch out for.
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She could, she wasn't trustworthy, So I think I always
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had my guard up a little bit initially, and then
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obviously like my team completely screwed me over from day one.
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So I was like, got it. Next step, I have Naya.
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I love Naya, absolutely love it.
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I we we've connected the thing in the hotel by
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the season, just just full of energy and bubbly. She
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comes across so genuine and she is genuine and loved her.
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She's just fun and she's fun. You're never having a
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boring time on there.
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Yeah. I've had her on the podcast twice, some friends
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with She's great.
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I see her Instagram as well as sick. I just
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lived through it.
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Next step, I have Thailand.
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And I really liked Hailand. You know, I really liked him.
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He seems like he's somebody who you're going to tell
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he's really thinking about the impact his words have on
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the person's talking to.
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I think I kind of thought about that.
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I recognized that in myself because I hate upsetting people,
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don't like causing controversy.
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And then I just really respect him from day one
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and how he.
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Led the team for that first challenge, and then obviously
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then it started to get a little bit ship and
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he I think he voted me to be to be
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a target in the first week or so, and I
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was quite surprised by it. I think now you was
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surprised by it as well. But she was disappointed in
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his choice. But I think he'd been like he had
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his head yeah now'd by other people, so I eventually
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just like right, yeah.
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Bye, yeah. Next step, I have Devin.
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Do you know what I think he's entertaining, but I
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think I found it all a lot. I didn't know
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how much of it was real and how much of
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it was for the show and he and he didn't.
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I mean, that is this complete father's thorty people in
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the house.
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You know, he didn't particularly make much time with me,
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But then I also didn't know how authentic he was
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because I think I'm loud, but I also will just
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fuck everybody off again, sit in the room on my
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own because I need to have bit time to myself.
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I think sometimes it can sometimes be seen as being
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like you're putting a show on for a reason, So
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I don't I think I just had my guard up
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with him.
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Yeah that makes sense. I want to talk about some
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people that you did play with but you haven't seen
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in a while, so I want your impression when you
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first saw them back right, Okay, whirst On was Jordan
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when you saw Jordan was playing again?
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With all your thoughts, do you know what, I always
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feel safe playing the game with Jordan because I think he.
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Will only I feel he only.
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Tends to play a hand or try and manipulate the
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game anyway he really need to. Otherwise, he just realized
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he just is a lone ranger. He competes mostly by himself.
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He might have a couple of things here and there,
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but generally I feel like he just stays out of
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my way, and I kind of he doesn't try and manipulate. Well,
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he's advertised a minute bit my game, so I think safe,
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I'd say safety.
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He reminds me of me.
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He just turns up and he does his best, and
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he just relies on his ability. He doesn't have to
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rely on like you know, China to sort over to
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get himself ahead.
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And so I feel safe for someone like that.
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Because I'm not probably going to come after me really,
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unless it's to protect somebody else.
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With the girl.
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Horror out of Cary.
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You know, do you know as well?
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I was like I would always say, like going in seasons,
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I never never trust her, but then I don't really
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trust anybody. But this that season, forty here and I
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sat on the bus words going to and from challenges
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and ate like gummies, and we shad. She shed quite
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a lot personally with me, and I shed a lot
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personally with her. And I just saw once PAULI had
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left and she's long obviously left.
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In the first week, I really got to know her.
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I just love that girl. I think she's great.
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Yeah. Next up, I have Polly.
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And it's really hard. I really like, I really want to.
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I do like Paula. I don't pay anybody. I like Pauly.
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I just said.
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That's fair. I mean, that's fair.
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Remember I met in one season when you came and
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thea tried to get it on by the pool in
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Thailand so far, and I was like, what my favorite
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sulf into and then and then this is the second
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season that I think this second season I saw him,
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wasn't it. I don't think he was in Yeah, I
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just I think everybody just knows. You just don't trus
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poor it.
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I don't know why. That's like the narrative that goes around.
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Yeah. Interesting, next one.
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I I like Laurel as well. She's a very strong
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headed woman, so she can seem she can probably quite
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intimidating to a lot of the cast members by me
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equally very strong headed female. And I gave people a
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lot of leewaite for their quirks as well, because I
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don't know if it's the job I do. I talk
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to soe many different types of people all the time.
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I respect this strength she has mentally and she's a fighter.
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So I like her. I like level. I don't agree
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with everything she does, but I like her. Yeah.
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So you get into this season and it's ten teams
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of ten right people all the way from Era one,
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Era two, Era three, A fourteen. What was your thoughts
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on another team season right? Your last was on Total Madness,
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which was an individual YEA one, and you do have
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experience with the team season being Word the World two,
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But what was your thoughts on this season of basically
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newbies versus vets kind of vibe going on?
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I think that this with a team aspect, I can
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offer you before my best, because if I'm working for
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a team, I don't want to I want to be
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supporting my team. I'll go full the end. That team
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was straight away in my family. That is the conversation
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Era fort had Literally within the first few days, we said, like,
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we're a family, our loyalties lie with the people here
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in this team before they lie outside. I'm fine to
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go with that, and I was like perfect. However, it
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didn't take long. Doesn't feeling like I was just basically
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being targeted as they would all done. More seasons had
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deeper friendships, which I get that, but it kind of
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fett a bit ship that then I was less important
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than the team because I will fight tooth and nail
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for my people.
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If you're if you were with me, that is it
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till we die.
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And once I kind of realized that wasn't the case,
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I was just like, fuck this team, shit, get me
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out of here.
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That's I mean, that's fair. The last time you were
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on a team season was World World two, which was
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your first season, right, and I want to kind of
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dive into that a little bit looking back now by
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the fans and by challengers, that was such a season dark.
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Everybody hate each other. It was constant fighting. I mean
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it was a dark I mean Turbo was kicked out
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of the season. There were so many fights, right, Going
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from that being your first season to this being your
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most recent season. Can you do any comparisons between the
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team seasons? Yeah, environment you know, you.
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Know what, Dylan, I would say that having seen them
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thirty four was a blessing in as much as they
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didn't think at the time, I was not. I didn't
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even know what the challenge was. I think I didn't
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even know what it was. I had no idea what
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I sew myself in for. And I even on literally
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within hours of being on set, the people are trying
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to fight, people have been pulled off security. Never had
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like a moment at all. It was so I remember thinking,
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what is this boss? The hell is this situation I'm in?
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I always grown adults literally can't communicate. I was growing
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shit now know does elements the TV side to it?
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I just saw people grown up.
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You know what I mean, you're growing up now we
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can communicate, but no, and I think.
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That that that calling away from that, I just remember
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being like it was like being hit sideways by a
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boss and being you know, this is the kind of
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behavior see at high school. And then when I came
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back for thirty five, I thought myself, I've given myself
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up for that, and it was so civilized in comparison,
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That's probably why I enjoyed the season so much, even
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though it was in a bunker, because it was a
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calm environment. And then in comparison season forty with the
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team aspected again, season forty was like, it's tame because
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in terms of the dynamics of groups and teams to
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thirty four, it's it's I don't think anything could compared
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to dynamics in the groups in thirty four.
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I don't know if any season ever has been is.
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Like no, you know, I can't.
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It was insane.
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I think there's a clip of me sat on a
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song bear with popcorn in the evening, and I think
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this is when Theory and Paul were having it out
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and I and you can see me just eating pop
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pun watching like it's don't get me. It's so entertaining
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necessarily not in it. It's very insane. Well, it definitely
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is like not good for your nervous system. And I
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think forty still felt so much better than that even
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in that group, Like I just thought, I trust my ability.
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So even now now having having done a couple of
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seasons and and done well, I thought, yeah, I'm in
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a group storry, but as long as even if I
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get into elimination, I'll get myself out of it. So
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I was just hoping the structure would change. And I
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just because I just didn't like I just didn't like
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that group situation.
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But I mean, and that's fair, you know, it was
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it was easy.
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To manage, Yeah, it was in Sorry, sorry, it was
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just want to give you a bit more. Actually, it
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was easy to manage that group then to thirty four
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because thirty four it was it was such a big
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group of divide.
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You really didn't know, and I was newer. You really
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didn't know where you're stuck with anyone. I didn't really
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to the end, I didn't really know who the hell
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I was trusting it at that point, and then and
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then in thirty in forty, I just.
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Knew, don't trust anyone just the now, and I was
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a buy it.
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So in forty, you know, you come up with I
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don't know if you come up with it, but you
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guys have this huge alliance Banana's Angels right that. I
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don't know if it was a real alliance or the
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TV just kind of marketed it. But you guys were
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obviously working together a lot, right. Can you talk about
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how that all started and how you guys got because
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it's it's an interesting group, right, I mean you obviously
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worked with Bananas on thirty four thirty five. You guys
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were close, right, But you know Rachel's from era one.
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I'm assuming you didn't know her coming into it. I did,
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Oh you did.
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I did? Yeah, Yeah, I'd metter with Miami the year
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before when I'd say the Tory, yeah, I'll go well
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this well so, so the way I do alliance is white.
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It is not the traditional wife. Most people are sending
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messages out. They already have their friends locked and they've
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got so much history. They will and they will strategically
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make moves to improve their game, will get through the ahead,
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they will manipulate, They'll still fall four s the scenarios
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coming out, and I'll purposely move players in different positions
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so that they can manipulate.
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The outcome of the scenario.
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When I align with somebody, it's no surprise to anybody
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if I'm if I'm working with someone in quotation marks,
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because it's just that I'm their friend. So if I
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trust somebody and there I feel they're authentic, I feel safe.
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And so with Johnny, you can phrase it is a
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line and it is alignment, but it's not.
494
00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:36.240
I'm not there sitting down in the dark room with
495
00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:38.680
him whispering about plans, let's make this person do this,
496
00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:41.319
let's do this. It's more like I've got your back,
497
00:22:42.359 --> 00:22:45.079
you know, you know he's got my back, and I
498
00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:47.880
won't let anybody affect his game. And it goes in
499
00:22:47.960 --> 00:22:50.680
like a ranking system of people that you like or
500
00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:52.920
you trust the most, who you.
501
00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:53.799
Kind of help first.
502
00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:56.720
I don't go around making failures of trying to get deals.
503
00:22:56.759 --> 00:22:58.759
I've never I even't got the brain capacity for it.
504
00:22:59.039 --> 00:23:01.359
I think those eighty she has anything that I am
505
00:23:01.400 --> 00:23:05.079
just I just literally take each moment as it comes,
506
00:23:05.359 --> 00:23:06.319
and I don't I think.
507
00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:08.400
Even Johnny Johnny, I don't even think he's ever come
508
00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:09.960
to me with a specific game plan.
509
00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:11.880
I think the only time in forty was when Brad
510
00:23:12.359 --> 00:23:14.440
and Johnny came to me by the pool and I
511
00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:16.440
can't even remember what that was about now, and we
512
00:23:16.519 --> 00:23:18.880
spoke about potential outcome.
513
00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:21.640
For something, and that's it. No one ever bothers with Jenny.
514
00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:24.240
No one bothers with me with plans because they don't
515
00:23:24.240 --> 00:23:28.079
they know I'm not the girl that you make plans with. Yeah,
516
00:23:28.160 --> 00:23:30.119
but ironically I had quite a lot of positions of
517
00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:34.160
power of that season. Well everybody everybody kind of doesn't, doesn't.
518
00:23:35.039 --> 00:23:37.160
I think there was a point about five weeks in
519
00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:39.559
where I had like a moment where why does nobody
520
00:23:39.559 --> 00:23:41.400
ever talk to me and not want to make deals?
521
00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:43.960
Like no one ever does? Like, why does want to make.
522
00:23:43.799 --> 00:23:45.359
Deals with them, but I'm never going to go out
523
00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:47.079
and make them. I won't even think about it.
524
00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:50.400
That's that's a good interesting point. I mean, you you
525
00:23:50.519 --> 00:23:52.680
dominated that season you had. I'm looking at the chats
526
00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:56.960
right now. Five daily wins, two elimination wins. You were there.
527
00:23:58.240 --> 00:24:00.079
I want to get into the end with rich On
528
00:24:00.200 --> 00:24:02.279
a little bit, but you were the sole winner before
529
00:24:02.319 --> 00:24:05.559
the jury vote thing karma vote. Yeah, we'll get to
530
00:24:05.559 --> 00:24:10.240
see that later. Do you think this was your best season,
531
00:24:10.440 --> 00:24:12.359
better than total Manus or do you think total Manus
532
00:24:12.359 --> 00:24:14.960
was a better statistically season for you.
533
00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:18.839
I can't even remember the numbers of Total Manus, but
534
00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:21.640
what I can tell you is the final for forty
535
00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:25.519
was hands down five times ten times harder than season
536
00:24:25.799 --> 00:24:27.359
thirty five or one hundred plays.
537
00:24:27.720 --> 00:24:29.960
And I mean, I'm not I don't even want to
538
00:24:29.960 --> 00:24:32.279
say like, I don't want to say I found it easy.
539
00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:35.480
But season thirty five final was like I thought, I
540
00:24:35.519 --> 00:24:37.039
didn't even know it finished, and so I was still
541
00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:39.799
tej top. I thought, oh, we don't, like I was
542
00:24:39.839 --> 00:24:43.200
ready for like another another like two miles and or
543
00:24:43.240 --> 00:24:45.599
so another child. So I didn't even realize we were done.
544
00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:48.240
I'm not saying it was easy because it wasn't. But
545
00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:51.480
it was nowhere near as difficult as swimming miles in
546
00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:55.759
the sea in Philippines. And so I think I would
547
00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:59.359
say that forty was my better season, even because because
548
00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:03.480
the low was greater, and and honestly, even about the season,
549
00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:05.400
I was like, really checked out.
550
00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:07.359
I didn't even I wasn't.
551
00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:08.880
I was, like I say, I wanted to be there,
552
00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:11.200
I didn't want to be there, and so I just
553
00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:13.279
did what was needed to keep me in the game.
554
00:25:13.319 --> 00:25:16.799
I didn't I didn't try the hardest the whole time,
555
00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:20.039
and the early time I tried my hardest was when
556
00:25:20.079 --> 00:25:22.480
it was do or die, at the point where you
557
00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:25.279
can go home now, okay, then I tried my hardest.
558
00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:29.680
That's fair. I mean, that's fair. You. I think you
559
00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:33.000
did mention to me on the last interview that you
560
00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:35.200
didn't have a hard time with the Total Manness Final,
561
00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:38.640
which a lot of people do have issues with snow finals.
562
00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:43.279
But like you said, you enjoyed the bunkers. So maybe
563
00:25:43.319 --> 00:25:45.119
you just do better in the colds, you know, like,
564
00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:46.039
maybe that's your thing.
565
00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:50.799
I think I think what gives me strength in those
566
00:25:50.839 --> 00:25:54.480
moments is I I know I haven't got an off switch,
567
00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:57.079
and it's quite terrifying the relation to make I did
568
00:25:57.160 --> 00:25:59.400
like a little talking real about it a few months.
569
00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:01.599
Ago, and what I kind of learned from the on
570
00:26:01.759 --> 00:26:02.119
the show.
571
00:26:02.319 --> 00:26:04.319
And one thing I've learned is I actually don't know
572
00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:06.920
at what point I would waive the white flag. I
573
00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:09.559
don't even think I have a white flag, because my
574
00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:13.079
it's quite terrified. Em honestly, like you think, oh yeah,
575
00:26:13.160 --> 00:26:13.920
when it gets.
576
00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:14.839
This hard, I'll probably stop.
577
00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:17.480
I generally think if I'd broken both legs, I will
578
00:26:17.559 --> 00:26:20.480
be like elbow army, crawling in the snow or whatever.
579
00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:23.480
Because because I have excize and juice asthma, and that
580
00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:27.240
came up in the final in forty and in the
581
00:26:27.319 --> 00:26:31.839
elimination with Anissa, and and and in that moment, I
582
00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:36.680
remember thinking I would rather die an asthma attack in
583
00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:41.200
Vietnam on this ground right here than not not try.
584
00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:43.599
I just haven't gone. I haven't got that side.
585
00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:46.359
Well, let's talk about that, because I wanted to talk
586
00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:49.279
about your eliminations. I'm looking at all of them right now, right.
587
00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:52.440
Your first one was Nicole on where the.
588
00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:56.200
World Is, Yeah, the cliving one, yeah, but.
589
00:26:56.480 --> 00:27:00.559
You you had some missions in the Anisa element, which
590
00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:03.480
a lot of people found surprising. There was a lot
591
00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:07.079
of confessionals about, you know, other competitors saying, well, maybe
592
00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:10.519
Jenny isn't all that, Maybe Jenny isn't all that, YadA, YadA, YadA.
593
00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:14.759
Can you talk about that elimination specifically with Anissa? What
594
00:27:14.920 --> 00:27:17.400
was going on through your head but through your body
595
00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:21.519
of catching your breath? You know, asthma's a serious medical condition,
596
00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:27.880
and I want to know, hypothetically speaking, if you did
597
00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:30.839
lose to Anissa, you know, I feel like that would
598
00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:35.000
have been with your career forever. Right. A lot of
599
00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:38.599
people don't view Anissa as like a big time challenging.
600
00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:42.000
She honestly basically why she's fantastic.
601
00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:45.359
She chines hard, that girl does. I've done a couple
602
00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:48.799
of wakeouts with her. She's she's good, and I think
603
00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:50.279
one she had definitely had.
604
00:27:50.160 --> 00:27:53.400
Shot basketballs before. I never have shot basketballs in my life.
605
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:57.200
I wasn't a handy called Nation is bad, but that
606
00:27:57.200 --> 00:27:57.599
that that.
607
00:27:58.279 --> 00:28:02.680
Luke was was really high up. And then so at
608
00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:05.599
the time as well, when you really can't breathe, it
609
00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:08.160
gets it's quite it gets quite hard to even focus
610
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:08.599
on that.
611
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:11.799
But I had to really ground myself because if I
612
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:13.319
could get the ball in, I knew I could go
613
00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:15.119
and get the pegs, so I had to just start
614
00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:17.039
taking my times, and she was getting those balls in
615
00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:19.799
all the time and getting ahead on the pegs. But
616
00:28:19.839 --> 00:28:23.039
the exercise induced us me is like it's something I
617
00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:24.599
never used to have to deal with day to day
618
00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:27.319
because I've never pushed myself to the point where it
619
00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:31.839
would hit and and the production were trying again and
620
00:28:31.880 --> 00:28:33.920
hail it for me because the sound guys could hear
621
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:36.279
in my breathing it wasn't normal, So it's not like
622
00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:38.599
it's then weird to explain. It wasn't in my chest
623
00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:40.759
and my lungs, so people are like, oh, she's gassing up,
624
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:42.960
but that would say it's a long thing, like your
625
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:46.279
lulls can't my laws could expand, but the my throat
626
00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:48.480
will let the air come through, so like it's like
627
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:51.599
someone was strangling you. And it felt like my airways
628
00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:55.079
and my throat had like a tiny little needle with
629
00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:58.240
whole kind of able to pass air through. So I'm
630
00:28:58.240 --> 00:28:59.920
taking a breath in, but the air couldn't go through.
631
00:28:59.920 --> 00:29:03.079
It's really really hard to get the air in. And
632
00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:05.960
so if I could get the point where when I
633
00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:09.720
was bent over and breathing, I was trying to relax
634
00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:13.079
my chest, my neck muscles. I was trying to mentally
635
00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:16.400
tell my throat to relax and to relax, and I
636
00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:18.480
was like trying to get it to just just released
637
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:19.079
so I could.
638
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:19.359
Get air in.
639
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:21.720
And then I knew then and I would have one
640
00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:24.480
sprint and it would come back and most of the
641
00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:27.160
time I would be doing the next ball and sprint.
642
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:31.960
Even still with the huge restriction. It was frustrating as
643
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:33.000
hell in that scenario.
644
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:33.359
GOT.
645
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:35.799
I didn't know it was gonna happen because I hadn't
646
00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:39.480
had had it happen in thirty, my last season, but
647
00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:42.759
then my last season. While there were cardio elements, it
648
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:47.400
wasn't It wasn't for that intent or do it that.
649
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:50.200
The final was really easy. I was outside, you're walking,
650
00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:53.640
that was fine. But anything high intense, yeah.
651
00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:57.680
It was bad endurance based deal.
652
00:29:58.400 --> 00:29:59.440
No, it's not.
653
00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:05.160
It's got because the the elimination was high intense cardio.
654
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:10.519
My heartbeat was probably about one hundred and eighty beats
655
00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:13.079
per minute, I would say, and mine mine should go
656
00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:15.079
to about one hundred and sixty seven. I can if
657
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:18.480
I feel a pools I can work it out thereabouts.
658
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:19.359
And I would say it was in it was in
659
00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:21.599
a it was in a high intense.
660
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:23.400
Zone, but it never it never dropped because you're just
661
00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:24.240
wunning the whole time.
662
00:30:24.279 --> 00:30:26.640
And then the whole elimination took like twenty thing.
663
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:29.880
It's like it's like sprinting for twenty three minutes but
664
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:32.200
not stopping, whereas it's like.
665
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:34.000
It Jones would be like, you've been working.
666
00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:36.079
One hundred and fifty five beats per minute, you know,
667
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:38.720
not under Nay.
668
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:42.240
That's interesting because I know a lot of people I'm
669
00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:45.680
originally from. I know you're in England, but I'm originally
670
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:48.519
from like an hour outside of New York City, right,
671
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:52.279
so it's cold. Yeah, you've been in New York City before.
672
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:55.160
Yes, lovet and I live in hour.
673
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:57.319
I grew up an hour outside the city, right. And
674
00:30:57.359 --> 00:31:01.000
it's a lot of people that have like weather induced asthma, right,
675
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:04.359
so when it gets older, asthma will kick up. But
676
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:06.759
it seems like yours was fine in the snow.
677
00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:08.039
Yeah.
678
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:11.839
And then like the high intensity workout, yeah, which is
679
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:14.960
interesting because I mean you are when I think of
680
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:20.119
the definition of fit athletic, like you come to mind.
681
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:23.119
I mean, look at you know what I mean. So
682
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:26.400
it's interesting to hear you say that when you were
683
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:30.440
so fit and so into exercises, working out and training
684
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:31.400
and all that kind of stuff.
685
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:34.920
This is the thing is like is the I know
686
00:31:35.119 --> 00:31:37.319
I saw the interview of the castmates saying, oh, Jenny's
687
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:39.839
gas gas out, you have an asthma attack, and they'll
688
00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:42.079
do what I did. I can sit here and say,
689
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:45.720
not one person who was watching that elimination would have
690
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:48.319
carried on if they felt what I felt, And that
691
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:51.000
gave me such coming away from that elimination, gave me
692
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:54.079
such a sense of how strong it was because regardless
693
00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:56.240
of what I went through to complete that elimination, I
694
00:31:56.640 --> 00:31:59.680
know for a fact absolutely no anybody could have dealt
695
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:01.880
with that. I know they could have done. I've never
696
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:06.880
felt the resistance, the want to. It's a weird your
697
00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:10.480
body's telling you to stop. You're you're gonna, You're gonna,
698
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:11.440
You're gonna die.
699
00:32:11.519 --> 00:32:12.880
The feeling is I might die.
700
00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:16.839
It's it's indescribable and I've never felt it that intense
701
00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:20.000
before until then, and so and so people can sit
702
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:21.079
there and say, oh, you.
703
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:22.119
Know, she's not that fit.
704
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:24.640
I'm across the Pintry champion long distance running, I didn't
705
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:27.880
even practice. I won the whole counter county championship, and
706
00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:30.440
I don't even practice running. I can go one ten k,
707
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:33.160
fifteen k, twenty k. I don't ever run because it's
708
00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:35.920
not going to induce my asthma. Whereas if I don't hit,
709
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:39.160
if I'm doing short burst thirty five forty seconds a minute,
710
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:40.160
I can contain it.
711
00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:41.319
If I've got to do.
712
00:32:41.279 --> 00:32:44.319
A fifty minute elimination where it's high intensity the whole time,
713
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:47.119
it's in the weather's hot, yeah, it's kicking in. And
714
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:50.359
and to be honest, I did, like I said to you,
715
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:53.519
I would rather die than start. I'd rather be carried.
716
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:53.759
Off a stretch.
717
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:56.880
And people go, oh, well, let the cast members say
718
00:32:56.880 --> 00:32:57.559
whatever they want.
719
00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:01.720
I would the fact that I could achieved that whilst
720
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:02.720
having an asthma attack.
721
00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:05.039
I walked away from that elimination.
722
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:08.079
And thought to myself, if I can do that, I
723
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:10.240
can do anything. And that's literally what I taught to myself,
724
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:12.400
because I know how, I don't know where my limit is.
725
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:14.640
I've never reached it. I've never reached a point where
726
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:16.920
I think I was. It's easy to stop. I'll just
727
00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:17.680
keep going.
728
00:33:18.960 --> 00:33:22.119
Interesting. I want to kind of spears with you and
729
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:24.599
go into more of the political game of season four.
730
00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:31.279
I misspoke, not even political game, the social game. I
731
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:34.160
guess the fights. There was a point in the season
732
00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:38.200
where Carra and Laurel really got into it pretty bad.
733
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:40.519
You know, we just did first Impressions and you said
734
00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:43.880
you have love for both women. Yeah, agree with Laurel
735
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:46.759
some of the times, but you've loved for both of them,
736
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:50.359
and you know, we as viewers definitely miss some stuff, right.
737
00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:55.240
I've had Carr on the podcast numerous times. I've talked
738
00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:58.079
with Laurel. She doesn't want to do the podcast, but
739
00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:01.960
I've talked with her before because we're like acquaintances. I
740
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:06.640
guess you could say, what is your thoughts on that?
741
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:11.280
By that situation, all of that between Cara and Laurel
742
00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:12.320
on season forty.
743
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:13.679
I always like you.
744
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:17.119
I was, I was somewhere some bathing when this all
745
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:20.199
started kicking off, and then obviously heard about it Cane
746
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:22.079
to check the girls are okay.
747
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:26.960
I think that I think that Laurel knows how to
748
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:28.840
get to Kara.
749
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:32.239
I think that Kara, for the most part, she was
750
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:34.599
I think she was really making an effort that season
751
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:38.440
to make connections with girls that she normally wouldn't have
752
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:41.239
a chance. So once Poory left, she she made like
753
00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:43.440
some I feel like she made so much personal growth
754
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:44.360
and progress herself.
755
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:46.599
So it's really nice to see that.
756
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:50.320
And and for the most part she manages to kind
757
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:52.880
of like not rise to Louvel, but I feel like
758
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:56.840
Lowell finds her Lourell just can't seem to not not
759
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:00.599
tell her exactly how she thinks. And so by the
760
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:03.920
time I got to it, seeing obviously Carl crying, it's
761
00:35:03.960 --> 00:35:05.519
not nice to see that. And I just I just
762
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:09.039
I'm baffled out to two women I've got to the
763
00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:11.920
point where they're speaking to each other like that and
764
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:15.119
argue line and crying. I think, I don't know, I
765
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:18.039
just think just avoid each other, you know. But it's
766
00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:21.280
difficult to you know, and people know, if there's there's
767
00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:24.800
a frictionity into people, that's an opportunity to manipulate the
768
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:25.440
times as well.
769
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:29.719
So there's that as well. It's a weak spot. M Yeah.
770
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:33.400
Yeah. So you obviously saw Kara and Laurel on thirty four,
771
00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:36.480
which also was not good season for them. No, have
772
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:41.280
you ever went back and watched their history of Freshet.
773
00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:44.440
Now haven't and yet this is why I think, I mean,
774
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:44.719
I know.
775
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:47.119
That's gonna listen if I want to go and do that, dinn,
776
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:49.000
I think I need like a week off work for
777
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:52.039
time to be able to really get into that history and.
778
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:53.239
Your girls really busy.
779
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:55.119
But at the same time, if I can have like
780
00:35:55.199 --> 00:35:59.079
some kind of like quick fire lesson on exactly what's
781
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:01.000
happened from beginning to and don't have a lot more in.
782
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:01.440
Stunning on it.
783
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:03.960
Yeah, well I'm doing individually like them both. It's it's
784
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:07.320
I wanted to have that kind of Wes and Banana's
785
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:10.440
moment from thirty five where they just end up sickly
786
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:11.199
working together.
787
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:15.480
Yeah, I mean they started, I mean to go over it.
788
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:18.079
I mean they started on a season together. They didn't
789
00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:20.639
do it much. Carra was the first one eliminated for
790
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.840
rookie season. Laurel got second place. Right the next season
791
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:26.920
was another team season like you've done, and they were
792
00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:29.559
on the same team and they did not get along.
793
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:34.000
Cara got to the end with Laurel. They got second place,
794
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:37.559
but the whole season Laurel was screaming, I'm carrying you.
795
00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:41.920
You're not doing anything. You stink. I mean, I'm paraphrasing.
796
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:46.280
Of course, we all sink on the challenge, and Laurel
797
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:51.800
said the captain of that team, Abram, was Carr's boyfriend,
798
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:53.719
so he was kind of saving her.
799
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:57.559
So Laurel's pissed about that. Then they were on Rivals together,
800
00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:00.639
and they were rivals right, they were all Bibles team,
801
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:04.599
and they became friends and got second place, and Laurel
802
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:07.280
actually went off on the West because he dumped soda
803
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:11.119
on Carl's head, like he got dumped in her head.
804
00:37:11.639 --> 00:37:15.840
And then Free Agents was the next season, and Laurel
805
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:20.039
won that, and their friendship kind of went off a
806
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:24.960
cliff there, just because Laurel said she found Car annoying.
807
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:28.840
The whole house was targeting Laurel at that point, and
808
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.880
then they did Invasion together, which again kind of split
809
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:35.280
them up. Nothing crazy happened that season, but that's basically
810
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:37.159
the gist of it. So they had some good seasons
811
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:40.760
where they were like best friends living together, but they
812
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:45.000
also had like living together outside of the show, but
813
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:46.880
they also had it seems like a lot of it
814
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:51.039
was competitive based in the beginning, but now personal.
815
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:55.440
You know, I think you just said it that it's
816
00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:58.320
competitive based both I mean, like many people on the show,
817
00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:01.800
but they truly both are very invested women, and so
818
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:05.280
you've got that driver wants to win, but also the
819
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:07.800
fairnest aspects and when Laurel feels like it's unfair that,
820
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:09.840
you know, Carl has got someone who's looking out for
821
00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:12.119
to know. That is how the game goes. That's been
822
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:14.239
me every season. You you're you know, you're always going
823
00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:16.599
to have people who've got a leg up and and
824
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:17.119
and that's it.
825
00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:19.480
But I think it's the competitiveness and.
826
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:21.519
I would love to see I would love to see
827
00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:24.559
like a reunion between those two where they literally, like
828
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:28.119
fully like friends again because I think I don't want
829
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:30.239
to say this because they might be rep offended, but
830
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:32.280
maybe they have a lot of similarities and that's why
831
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:33.280
they clashed so much.
832
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:36.880
I mean, that could be it. That could be it.
833
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:38.039
Let's talk about it.
834
00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:39.800
I need to go and watch all this issue now
835
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:43.400
to this podcast. Can you literally tell me the key moments.
836
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:44.320
I want to watch it all.
837
00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:48.719
Yeah, I'll text you them. I want to get back
838
00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:51.119
into forty really quick, and I want to get to
839
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:54.719
the final. Right when we get to the final and
840
00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:58.320
we realized it's all swimming. What are your thoughts because
841
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:03.000
I had Jordan on podcast in I want to say December,
842
00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:05.880
like right before the end of twenty twenty five. Yeah,
843
00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:09.519
and Jordan told me he was like, I told production,
844
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:12.480
don't do this. Like when I saw I was all swimming,
845
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:14.599
I said, I'm going to kill everybody. The wing we
846
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:19.079
cloak like Jim had something right, and Jordan did kill
847
00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:23.159
the guys. What was your reaction as the other winner
848
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:24.519
when you saw I was all swimming.
849
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:28.400
I would say, have a confidence sum But I never swim.
850
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:31.639
I don't think of swam since season Thailand. In the
851
00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:34.800
season thirty four when we did a challenge of the water,
852
00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:37.719
I think it was on my zip lines off a
853
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:39.559
cliff into this big body of water and then we
854
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:41.960
had to swim so a boat and then yeah.
855
00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:44.280
And it was like you're racing it. One I actually got.
856
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:46.239
That was part of the only season I remember TJ
857
00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:48.800
saying Jordan got the fastest and I got the second
858
00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:51.480
fastest time out of everybody. But I didn't know I
859
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:53.480
would have got the fastest second time, or I know
860
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:55.239
is when it's I.
861
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:57.159
Just got a shrive, I do do you best?
862
00:39:57.159 --> 00:39:59.920
So and I remember in that instance as well, feeling
863
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:03.639
little bit of the throat tightening. So I when I
864
00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:05.239
saw the water and it was going to be a water,
865
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:07.760
absolutely fine because I know I'm a good swimmer.
866
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:10.039
I haven't some for about five years.
867
00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:13.159
Maybe that's why the muzzle helped me out, because I
868
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:15.719
don't find it like I've got on the city and
869
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:17.679
say it's hard. So it is hard when you're doing
870
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:21.440
live out they made us do, but I'm not intimidated
871
00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:21.880
by it.
872
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:25.159
I guess, Okay, yeah, I don't know. I've felt bad
873
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:26.039
for Kylon.
874
00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:30.079
Though, Yeah, can I just smuffles me? Right?
875
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:33.880
What you don't want to show that the challenge you
876
00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:35.679
don't know what they're gonna do? It? Is this the
877
00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:36.440
one thing that.
878
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:39.159
You definitely know you can't do what you like. Why
879
00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:42.440
there's so many people turned off when they can't swim, I.
880
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:46.440
Don't get it. Why just go learn quickly? Gonna have some.
881
00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:54.960
Swimming quickly, so you win, right? And Michelle was kind
882
00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:57.039
of near you, but you kind of dominated that final.
883
00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:00.480
You know, Torri was taken out by she didn't elimination
884
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:04.159
right before that involved yeah, for hours, and I've talked
885
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:05.679
to her about that, and I talked to her about
886
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:08.119
that as well. When we get to the end, there's
887
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:11.159
a karma vote and you now have to split your
888
00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:14.039
winning money and your title with Rachel. Right, And I
889
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:16.559
know you work with Rachel the whole season, but if
890
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:19.320
I was in Europe, I mean, if I was you,
891
00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:21.679
I would be pissed. Not only you've taken some money,
892
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:24.400
but I mean the challenge is not a Big Brother
893
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:26.639
game where the jury should have voted for the winner. Right,
894
00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:28.960
you didn't deserve it, And Jordan said the same thing.
895
00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:32.199
Jordan said, Jenny was the winner. Jenny should have won,
896
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:36.239
Rachel got third place. Right. You are a happy, go
897
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:39.840
lucky person. You're one of the nice I've met doing this.
898
00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:43.679
But honestly, was there any like bitterness of you having
899
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:45.199
to share the win with with Rachel?
900
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:50.159
I could honestly genuinely say I was just grateful the
901
00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:52.559
karma vodes didn't get me out of the game. Like
902
00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:55.760
it was at the point when when he TJ said
903
00:41:56.039 --> 00:41:59.039
r jenual for first place for the girls men head,
904
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:00.760
I was like, oh my god. And then I remember
905
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:05.800
there's been these boats going on, and I thought to myself,
906
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:10.000
I would be gutted to go from being first place
907
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:13.840
to not even having a place like at all, So
908
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:17.239
that was my main concern. But I can genuinely say
909
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:20.920
I saw how hard Rachel worked that season. I genuinely
910
00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:23.440
loved that woman as a person. I'd met her in
911
00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:26.159
Miami the year before when I was staying with Tory
912
00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:28.599
and did one of the Barry's classes, and I loved her,
913
00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:30.320
met a wife, met a kids.
914
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:31.599
I think she's great.
915
00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:33.800
And I didn't actually start working with her from the
916
00:42:33.920 --> 00:42:36.320
very very start of Forting. I was kind of I
917
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:37.119
was tis on.
918
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:38.599
My own for a while.
919
00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:40.880
It wasn't until went to individual game and I moved
920
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:44.440
my bed over into the era to a one or
921
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:47.400
two room, and then I started to actually have more
922
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:48.480
conversations with her.
923
00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:50.239
But I knew that because she.
924
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:54.039
Was great friends with she kind of formed a bond
925
00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:55.280
with Johnny.
926
00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:57.199
And I absolutely loved to be and her and I
927
00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:00.239
got on really well. We just naturally gravitated. It was
928
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:02.639
a natural gravitation to talk to one another. And then
929
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:03.760
once we kind of had that.
930
00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:06.880
Little group and with them came to Johnny's Angels and
931
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:08.119
that Bana's Angels, and that.
932
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:09.880
Was like I would say that was about five weeks.
933
00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:13.039
In four to five weeks in That's when I was like, right,
934
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:15.159
these are my people, the people that I know.
935
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:16.679
That they will be honest with me and that I
936
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:17.320
feel safe with.
937
00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:20.360
And so anyway to see Rachel be on the own
938
00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:23.440
pretty much for the whole season representing your era, and
939
00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:26.920
she did do so well during the dailies and eliminations
940
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:28.920
and everything, and she worked really hard on the final.
941
00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:32.800
I genuinely was absolutely elated to have that type of
942
00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:35.559
ending because I don't want her. I wouldn't wanted her
943
00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:37.039
to go home and to handle it. I just generally
944
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:40.599
wouldn't have done. It's enough money, It's enough money for
945
00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:42.760
the title is more important than the cash.
946
00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:45.280
It's always more important. I'm pleased that.
947
00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:47.519
I'm on this side of the offense where I won
948
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:50.480
off my own ability and split the money that that
949
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:53.400
sits better for me. I've never wanted to be I've
950
00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:55.800
never been one of the popular girls. I wasn't a
951
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:57.960
popular girl at school. People liked me, but I wasn't
952
00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:01.480
like anyone's you know, number one phase. And I think
953
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:05.199
that that kind of that experience of Boughty mirrored, mirrored
954
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:06.960
kind of what I had at high school and primary
955
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:09.440
school where I'm not the favorite, but everyone likes me.
956
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:12.480
I'm cool with that. I've got my best friends at home.
957
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:14.159
I don't need to be the most liked person.
958
00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:14.360
Ever.
959
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:16.559
It takes a lot of energy to, you know, to
960
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:19.320
to have fake conversations and people over and over and
961
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:22.519
over again. But I knew that something would happen at
962
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:24.880
the end, and I was so grateful that it didn't
963
00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:28.079
brought me out line up completely. I was absolutely, absolutely
964
00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:29.800
fucking fantastic, let's split the cash.
965
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:31.440
My reaction on the video as well.
966
00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:36.400
You can see like the excitement I was pleased it
967
00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:40.320
was with Rachel, really really please. Yeah, And I genuinely
968
00:44:40.360 --> 00:44:43.559
think she deserved to have she needed, she needed rewarding
969
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:45.360
in some way for the effort she put in that season,
970
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:47.400
because she did so well and she does it was
971
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:48.840
such great and without.
972
00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:51.639
Doing it, you know, she doesn't, she's not if she'd
973
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:52.159
done it in.
974
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:54.199
A nasty way and she's going down people's backs in
975
00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:56.639
a whoble way really like, you know, she's just not
976
00:44:56.679 --> 00:44:58.400
a nice person. That would kill me to split the
977
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:01.880
money with her, kill me, But nothing but respect for her.
978
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:03.960
Was there anybody who did not want to put the
979
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:05.920
money with I.
980
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:08.440
Want to want in to spell, but I really like Michelle,
981
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:11.719
and you know what she's I said to the final
982
00:45:11.719 --> 00:45:13.000
I was like, there's no way you're not going to
983
00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:15.400
win one of these at some point because that girl
984
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:20.760
is she's she's so able in every aspect. So she
985
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:23.960
was always closest behind me in the swimming, and she
986
00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:29.719
she's so she's so also, she's she's so complimentary is
987
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:33.239
the wrong word humble? Even when we get back to
988
00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:36.559
the boats, she went to me, Jenny, have you swim before?
989
00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:38.840
And I was like, not really, no, but I.
990
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:41.840
Touched, I touched a team at home. She's liked on
991
00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:44.480
the swimming and shocking or whatever. And she went, how
992
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:45.400
are you first than me?
993
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:46.639
And I was like, I don't know.
994
00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:49.599
I guess it's like the muscle. You know, she's she
995
00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:51.480
didn't need to say that. She doesn't had to tell
996
00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:52.800
you that, Johnny, She's great.
997
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:55.199
I really like her. She pissed me off in the
998
00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:58.440
first few weeks, for otherwise I really like her. I
999
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:00.760
saw what I wanted with.
1000
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:02.239
The only person I would really want to spit with
1001
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:04.239
is Rachel oh Tory.
1002
00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:09.519
Really, m somebody was at I put up a question box,
1003
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:12.920
and I want to get into questions mind really quick.
1004
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:17.800
Somebody wanted to know Banana's Angels or Carus Cult on
1005
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:20.639
season thirty four, which is the more iconic alliance.
1006
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:24.159
Sorry, and I mean it's got.
1007
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:27.639
I mean I'm going to say Banana's Angels that I mean,
1008
00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:30.159
it came out, came out no worse one minute. I'm
1009
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:33.920
just you know, I'm see Era for hating everything, and
1010
00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:35.000
I go over there next week.
1011
00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:37.639
There, We've got a whole tendering. It is safe. Yeah,
1012
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:40.440
I got Doge his Angels iconic.
1013
00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:44.719
Okay, have Now there's been rumors about you and Bananas
1014
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:50.320
for years now. Yeah, there ever ever been anything one
1015
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:51.559
kiss or anything from me.
1016
00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:55.400
No, no offense to Johnny. Like he's a great guy,
1017
00:46:55.599 --> 00:46:56.239
but absolutely not.
1018
00:46:56.280 --> 00:46:59.119
He's like a brother. Like I think you will find
1019
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:03.320
it stranger. Don't like girls and guys can have a
1020
00:47:03.320 --> 00:47:07.400
good friendship. I've said this so many times. Johnny is
1021
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:10.519
who he is. That creates safety for me because this
1022
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:12.519
person is not going to pretend to be something. I
1023
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:15.159
gravitated towards that aspect on it. I sort of and
1024
00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:17.840
saw people to their faces rather than behind the backs
1025
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:19.840
like everybody else was. And I thought, this guy is
1026
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:22.440
not afraid of the backpashion of his opinion, and so
1027
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:24.199
that felt that safety for me.
1028
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:26.280
Karra side that movie then from Thailand.
1029
00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:32.039
Interesting, Yeah, somebody wants to know. Can you please rank
1030
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:35.239
your seasons thirty four to thirty five and forty from
1031
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:36.559
favorite to least favorite.
1032
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:41.039
I would say forty is my favorite.
1033
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:44.320
Cure with the fact that it was such a big
1034
00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:48.000
season and it was such great competition, and also I
1035
00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:50.039
feel like it challenged me the most mentally.
1036
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:52.360
I didn't you know, I really didn't want to be there.
1037
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:55.039
I was I was struggling quite a lot of personally
1038
00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:57.239
at the time, and so that was really it was
1039
00:47:57.400 --> 00:47:59.880
a challenge. It was really really hard and how I
1040
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:03.800
found the shrink to keep going. I mean, Rachel was
1041
00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:06.199
saying Jenny Belly even tried all season then just like
1042
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:08.360
on the first day at the final, I was like,
1043
00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:10.320
came on my period and I was moaning a production
1044
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:12.159
for not given painkillers.
1045
00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:13.800
And I was like, right then I quit. Like I
1046
00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:17.599
was a really shoppy like man on that first day.
1047
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:21.440
But I mean, I'm really proud of the building to
1048
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:23.320
have just when it needs to be done, I just
1049
00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:25.480
get it done. And I learned that so much more
1050
00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:27.719
about myself on forty than any other seasons.
1051
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:28.760
That's what i'd say.
1052
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:31.679
So some people were saying that you like complained a
1053
00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:33.719
lout in the forty final, but I don't think they
1054
00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:36.599
showed that you were on your period like that.
1055
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:38.880
Yeah, I guess it's not.
1056
00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:41.400
Yeah, so I knew I was, So I'll give you
1057
00:48:41.519 --> 00:48:43.880
the quick funny story. I knew I was doing on
1058
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:46.280
pretty much what we don't know when the final is
1059
00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:48.320
going to be, but I thought it's probably gonna be
1060
00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:49.199
on this sale this day.
1061
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:50.599
And I knew I was doing around that time.
1062
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:52.960
And then Vive was on a cycle already like a
1063
00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:55.719
week before, and so and I just kept like hanging
1064
00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:57.639
out with each other, but we kept like rubbing against
1065
00:48:57.639 --> 00:48:58.920
it because she was like, I'm going to give you
1066
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:02.039
my period, because apparently if you hang around certain girls,
1067
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:05.280
you start to sink your cycles. So we were trying
1068
00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:07.199
to sink me for the final, so she was like,
1069
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:09.719
let's sink you up your period. Anyway, it didn't happen,
1070
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:14.039
and I came on day one and then my by
1071
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:15.920
the way, day one of the period, like just I
1072
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:18.960
don't go around to anybody and the nicest, most passive
1073
00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:21.199
patient person you ever meet, unless it's day one of
1074
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:24.280
my cycle, don't even breathe next to me, and so
1075
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:26.280
to wait to way you poot them to have that
1076
00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:29.360
and then have like the cramps and then productions be
1077
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:32.400
like no pain killers. I was like right, So then
1078
00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:35.079
I started just getting off that like just it just
1079
00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:37.800
triggered me and I was like, I moaned so much.
1080
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:39.800
I cried going back from one of the challenges in
1081
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:41.519
the final I think it was the second one. I'd
1082
00:49:41.559 --> 00:49:44.559
come first, and I got back. Johnny came in and went, yeah,
1083
00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:46.239
you're okay, what did you get? What did you get?
1084
00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:50.159
I went, okay, first, don't like crying. I was like,
1085
00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:53.760
I'm just a bit all I can just spent up.
1086
00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:55.519
And it was because of my period.
1087
00:49:56.880 --> 00:49:58.719
They showed that. They just showed you like complaining.
1088
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:00.719
Yeah yeah.
1089
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:02.760
Everybody was like Johnny such a cry baby, but they
1090
00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:06.000
didn't show why. And that's so interesting to see how
1091
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:08.559
editing really takes a toll on the show.
1092
00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:11.119
You know, the hormones are there's ridicous.
1093
00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:13.000
I never used to be like this, but as I've
1094
00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:15.760
gotten older, the day one is really hard, and I
1095
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:18.280
think I just felt like I was angry that they
1096
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:19.840
weren't giving me pain because I thought it was my
1097
00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:21.599
human right to have access the page.
1098
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:22.639
There's a period.
1099
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:28.360
Yeah. Interesting. Somebody wants to know if you got called
1100
00:50:28.360 --> 00:50:30.679
for season forty one, if that's some New Threats or
1101
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:33.920
season forty two, which is about to air next month cutthroat.
1102
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:38.199
So I can't talk about this yet.
1103
00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:41.159
I asked production Actually if I could, they told me
1104
00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:42.079
I'm not really supposed to.
1105
00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:48.519
There was something for forty two that they asked for,
1106
00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:50.280
but due to.
1107
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:53.599
The fact that had recent surgery, again, I couldn't. I
1108
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:56.960
couldn't say yeah, so I'll have to leave it. That's
1109
00:50:56.960 --> 00:50:59.360
all I'm probably able to say. There was somebody with
1110
00:50:59.480 --> 00:51:01.960
forty two I was, you know, but that's it.
1111
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:02.400
I can't.
1112
00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:07.400
Okay, I might have been on the screens forty so
1113
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:09.719
I look at the castle line of a thing.
1114
00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:12.920
Could I beat these these people? Yes, I fucking card.
1115
00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:20.400
Somebody wants to know, would you do forty three if
1116
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:21.239
you were called for it?
1117
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:24.480
So this is the thing villain is like I my
1118
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:27.519
I've always said never say never, and I've said I've
1119
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:29.800
decided in the past I'm definitely not doing it again
1120
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:32.719
and then and then every now and then, I think
1121
00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:36.440
it's the wildness of that ride in life is insane.
1122
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:39.320
You'll never get opportunities like it, you know, most people won't,
1123
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:40.840
and it's so cool, and so I.
1124
00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:43.599
Would never say never bought my job.
1125
00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:47.239
My career with my clients is all consuming, it's and
1126
00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:49.280
I love it and I've done it for fifteen years,
1127
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:53.440
and so to essentially abandon that whilst they would absolutely
1128
00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:56.679
loving it because they absolutely would die to watch me,
1129
00:51:57.480 --> 00:51:59.559
I don't know how feasible it had been now, because
1130
00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:02.039
that's are in quite big, and I think I would
1131
00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:04.440
have to have a lot of support and structuring place
1132
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:06.119
to be able to allow myself to do that, or
1133
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:08.000
production and have to just let me have my laptop
1134
00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:10.960
and just let me have like yeah, yeah, just let
1135
00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:12.880
me put all my clients into one l like folded
1136
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:15.360
and shut and let me just message them back about
1137
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:16.079
work only.
1138
00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:19.079
And they were good, but they would never.
1139
00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:20.480
Yeah, they would go for that.
1140
00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:24.360
Usion for information. They always seem to know as well.
1141
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:27.280
Like last time I went away, I had to just bullshit.
1142
00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:30.599
I couldn't even tell them because it's against contracts. But
1143
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:32.480
then I've got clients that pay me, so I had
1144
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:34.880
any set up and I had everything worked out, and
1145
00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:38.079
I was able to bits and work here and there
1146
00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:41.320
when I was away, but but most of the orders
1147
00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:42.800
related that I was on the season.
1148
00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:47.039
Interesting. Interesting because I'm assuming that you going on the
1149
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:50.360
season possibly gets you more clients, right, gets you more
1150
00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:52.000
I would you know.
1151
00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:53.000
What, I would say, yes and no.
1152
00:52:55.239 --> 00:52:57.119
The use it had really it was around kind of
1153
00:52:57.159 --> 00:52:59.719
like twenty twenty three when coaching took a big boom.
1154
00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:03.039
Nowadays there's so many coaches around and so there's lots
1155
00:53:03.039 --> 00:53:07.039
of information. Also, the amount of AI transformations that I
1156
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:09.239
see out there is literally I've seen my own client
1157
00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:12.320
photos being stolen and shared. I've tried to water mark them.
1158
00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:15.880
I've done this for fifteen years, and I swy pt and.
1159
00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:18.960
So I do it the proper way.
1160
00:53:19.000 --> 00:53:22.679
Amy has changed women's habits and their patterns and actually
1161
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:25.639
moved away from issues they've got that's stopping them. So
1162
00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:27.679
people that don't mean there's a lot of coaches now
1163
00:53:27.679 --> 00:53:30.159
we are quite new, and they won't doing that the experience,
1164
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:32.239
and so I think what's happening is is people are
1165
00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:34.679
people are working with those coaches not getting the results
1166
00:53:34.719 --> 00:53:36.000
of support they thought they were going to get, and
1167
00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:39.039
it's given coaching a bit of a distrust. So now
1168
00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:42.079
it's not as it's definitely not as you're not as inundated.
1169
00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:44.639
And I think even sometimes going on a show I read,
1170
00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:47.320
people say to me, oh, she's been on real TV.
1171
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:49.280
Now inside she wants to be a coach. I've done
1172
00:53:49.280 --> 00:53:51.360
the shop for fifteen years. This is my bread and butter.
1173
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:53.360
This is why I do. I trust myself with this.
1174
00:53:53.519 --> 00:53:55.239
Oh I know I can do this. I can always
1175
00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:57.960
bring it home. So I think that I think that
1176
00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:02.199
sometimes the following the number also goes against you. Sometimes
1177
00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:05.800
people the most often question I get is but I'm
1178
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:08.039
not getting coached by you. That's what I get. And
1179
00:54:08.039 --> 00:54:11.000
I'm like, a fucking course. It's my name, it's my career,
1180
00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:13.440
it's my brand, it's my business. I'm not letting anyone
1181
00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:16.320
screw that up with time with that, it's me. And
1182
00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:18.000
so I think a lot of time they see that
1183
00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:20.119
they might want to work with me. They say, you've
1184
00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:22.119
got two hundred thousand followers, you've won the challenge. A
1185
00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:24.159
few times they might go, oh, there's no way that
1186
00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:27.320
Jenny's working with me. My clients to boystate me, I've
1187
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:29.880
re stated a client. Yes, stage rushing my t, sobey.
1188
00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:30.320
Just pushing my t.
1189
00:54:31.239 --> 00:54:33.559
It's locked in because that's the only way you get
1190
00:54:33.599 --> 00:54:36.239
tights results is doing it very very hands on. So yeah,
1191
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:38.480
of course it's me. But it doesn't always go. It
1192
00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:40.440
doesn't always help you out when you've been on TV.
1193
00:54:41.880 --> 00:54:44.320
Yeah, and that's a good point. I want to say.
1194
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:51.920
I feel like you have been the most dominant challenger
1195
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:54.199
in the last ten years. Right, I don't know if
1196
00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:56.079
you watch when you're not on the show or not,
1197
00:54:56.599 --> 00:55:01.000
your opinion on like the four best yeah j that
1198
00:55:01.079 --> 00:55:03.480
you've seen, Right, can we do two? Or let's do
1199
00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:08.519
three women three men? And as a trainers won the challenge?
1200
00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:10.400
Who are three women and three men? And you don't
1201
00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:12.960
have to you can exclude yourself that you think and
1202
00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:15.800
you damn they're good.
1203
00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:18.920
Do you know what is to be a good challenger?
1204
00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:21.679
You have to be all rounder.
1205
00:55:21.840 --> 00:55:24.440
You can't just if you're just physical, you're you're gonna
1206
00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:26.880
go home. If you've just got a cardio for days,
1207
00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:28.559
you're good at home. You have to have a bit
1208
00:55:28.599 --> 00:55:32.039
of everything. But the main thing that I think makes
1209
00:55:32.039 --> 00:55:35.960
a challenge someone who's gonna win, it's a mindset all
1210
00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:39.960
day long. You can be okay at everything, but if
1211
00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:41.400
you've got you haven't got.
1212
00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:43.719
A sock button, and you will just keep going and
1213
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:44.199
going and going.
1214
00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:46.280
You just you just seem to go much further ahead.
1215
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:48.679
And some people have that and some people don't. Some
1216
00:55:48.760 --> 00:55:51.119
people know they haven't got that. I think, yeah, but
1217
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some people I've got it.
1218
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And i'd say in ms of like a really good
1219
00:55:56.280 --> 00:55:59.480
all rounder, I would say, is Michelle, Yeah?
1220
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I And I have to say that because in that
1221
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an ultimate Challenge before the Final, In fact, it was
1222
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the final challenge before the Final when we'd already phoned
1223
00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:10.440
to the Philippines, but we had to carry I've got
1224
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the scars on my arms still.
1225
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I don't know if you can see if you can see.
1226
00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:16.679
Those, we actually ry sit in the blox and the
1227
00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:20.559
logs of the flight says that was about two hours
1228
00:56:20.760 --> 00:56:23.280
and they were heavy, like I think, I want to
1229
00:56:23.320 --> 00:56:26.639
say it was about fifteen kilograms you're doing upstairs. Michelle
1230
00:56:26.800 --> 00:56:30.039
is like a small frame person, but she did her
1231
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:31.320
mental shrend.
1232
00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:34.360
To keep going through that and keep up with everybody else.
1233
00:56:34.719 --> 00:56:37.239
I didn't. I wasn't. I wouldn't even say I was surprised,
1234
00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:39.000
because I know she's got the mental side of it.
1235
00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:40.639
She seems surprised when she's doing it, and she was
1236
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:42.599
like I'm looking around and seeing Car and Tour and
1237
00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:44.920
Jour and their muscles, and they're killing it.
1238
00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:46.519
I thought themselves, she's.
1239
00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:48.920
Under estimate her ability because it's here that helps you win,
1240
00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:50.519
not youth physicality.
1241
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:52.400
So Michelle is really good.
1242
00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:56.480
You know, she's definitely in the top three. I mean,
1243
00:56:56.519 --> 00:56:58.960
I've got to say, Tory, aren't I like toys? I
1244
00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:04.880
mean that she's again got the she's got that mental ability.
1245
00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:06.559
And also Aviv.
1246
00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:12.599
Okay, she can we just take it back to Vietnam
1247
00:57:12.679 --> 00:57:15.320
jumping off that building where the flags.
1248
00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:17.239
Do you know how far out they were from the
1249
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:18.360
from the platform?
1250
00:57:18.800 --> 00:57:19.199
Like you?
1251
00:57:19.559 --> 00:57:22.559
I ran and I jumped as far and as stretched
1252
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:24.280
her body as long as they could, and I made
1253
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:26.360
the flags and Viva is like a foot.
1254
00:57:26.199 --> 00:57:28.320
Less than me, like and she went last.
1255
00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:30.960
And I remember I was I cried after she caught
1256
00:57:30.960 --> 00:57:32.960
the flags because I was so proud of I was
1257
00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:35.519
so pleased she did it because I knew how much
1258
00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:37.639
her height would have gone against her for that and
1259
00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:40.000
the only person not to catch the flags and she
1260
00:57:40.119 --> 00:57:40.519
got them.
1261
00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:42.440
She is literally unsoppable.
1262
00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:50.880
Interesting. And then guy, guy, you guys, yes, Then do.
1263
00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:52.679
I have to say Jordan's obviously.
1264
00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:56.119
And do you know what if the if the Carlin's
1265
00:57:56.119 --> 00:57:58.599
are really great compastor as well, because he's good under pressure,
1266
00:57:59.559 --> 00:58:01.360
so he's amazing, gone better. I think the only thing
1267
00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:03.159
that went against the final is the fact there was water.
1268
00:58:03.320 --> 00:58:07.199
Cal and just just just literally lives.
1269
00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:07.320
In the ocean.
1270
00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:10.079
Now for next you just never stops facts and swear
1271
00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:13.360
he would he would win a final. Okay, And then
1272
00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:15.360
I'm going to say Johnny, of course, like he is,
1273
00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:17.480
he knows how, he knows how to he knows how
1274
00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:19.480
to win. He does know how to win, and he
1275
00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:21.920
is smart. He's got the fitness, he's got the stanity,
1276
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:24.320
is not going to quit. It's very strategic in game
1277
00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:26.760
playing time as well as he'll see something from the
1278
00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:29.079
angle very very quickly. It's gonna be quicker and fast
1279
00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:30.880
and easy to do this. And you need that as well.
1280
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:32.199
You've got to be able to think on your feet.
1281
00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:32.920
M hmm.
1282
00:58:33.920 --> 00:58:35.599
That's a fair that's a good list. That's a really
1283
00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:37.719
good list. I want to say thank you so much
1284
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:39.719
for coming on. I really really appreciate it.
1285
00:58:40.039 --> 00:58:40.559
Thank you.
1286
00:58:40.800 --> 00:58:43.480
I want to do any last words where we can
1287
00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:46.159
find you on social media, anything you want to promote,
1288
00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:47.440
just your time to shine at the end.
1289
00:58:48.639 --> 00:58:51.199
Okay, I'll do a little message. I haven't found this
1290
00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:53.840
at all. What would say that anybody listens to this.
1291
00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:56.840
Whatever you do in life, do it authentically to you.
1292
00:58:57.519 --> 00:59:00.599
Try not to be side sidetracked by what everybody else
1293
00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:02.679
is doing or how everybody else does things. If people
1294
00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:04.639
are like nasty, people are me and people trying to
1295
00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:06.159
screw you over, it doesn't really you need to go
1296
00:59:06.199 --> 00:59:09.760
and copy that. Just be authentic to yourself and just
1297
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:11.320
just wave up and be how can I be a
1298
00:59:11.320 --> 00:59:13.360
good persons stay without abandoning myself?
1299
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:16.800
That's what I would say. And then some social media.
1300
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Jennifer West Official is my Instagram handle.
1301
00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:22.679
And I have just launched my own podcast and yes
1302
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:24.719
I say it was the first episode and it's literally
1303
00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:26.000
the Jennifer West.
1304
00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:27.320
Podcast innofitive, I know.
1305
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:30.119
And that's kind of covering like honestly, it's not just
1306
00:59:30.159 --> 00:59:31.280
like diet and training things.
1307
00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:32.000
It really isn't.
1308
00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:34.119
It's a lot of my brain, don't to be honest,
1309
00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:37.360
kind of like about women who we are, how you
1310
00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:40.159
want to get to where you want to be, your standards, identity,
1311
00:59:40.320 --> 00:59:42.440
not letting anyone shit all over you. I'm driving a
1312
00:59:42.440 --> 00:59:45.119
lot from my own experiences in life in this podcast.
1313
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:46.320
It's going to be it's.
1314
00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:48.519
Going to I think it's going to be really reflective
1315
00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:49.920
for a lot of women as well.
1316
00:59:50.159 --> 00:59:51.519
And it's the man if you want to listen to
1317
00:59:51.559 --> 00:59:54.199
it too. I know female listeners already love it.
1318
00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:57.320
I will link everything down below, including the podcast. That's
1319
00:59:58.239 --> 01:00:01.920
I really appreciate you coming out. I'll have probably Wednesday
1320
01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:03.480
or Thursday this week, and I'll send you the lisker
1321
01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:05.280
and yeah.
1322
01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:07.400
Thank you so much.
1323
01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:09.320
And I'm sorry that my face is the first face
1324
01:00:09.440 --> 01:00:10.440
you here in the morning.
1325
01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:15.840
Even my voice is so loud, but yeah, thank you.
1326
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:16.199
For having me.
1327
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:17.639
I've been enjoying that of course.
1328
01:00:17.800 --> 01:00:22.400
All right, I got you, Chip, thank you, Hey, Children
1329
01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:25.599
with Dylan, Chilling with Dylan, good times in such an
1330
01:00:25.599 --> 01:00:26.559
incredible feeling.
1331
01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:27.760
The podcast that.
1332
01:00:27.719 --> 01:00:32.079
You need and want, interviews with reality TV stars so
1333
01:00:32.320 --> 01:00:35.039
entertaining now you don't want to miss it, real lez
1334
01:00:35.079 --> 01:00:38.280
it gets never know what to expect me. Gotta rep Jersey,
1335
01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:41.039
I thought I told you, Yes, Indeed, every week gotta
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01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:44.559
brand new post. While I'm a Children with Dylan, Chilling
1337
01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:47.719
with Dylan, Hey, Chilling with Dylan, Chilling with Dyning.
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01:00:47.880 --> 01:00:48.199
Let's go