EP 62: Derek Chavez

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Hey, chilling with Dylan, Chilling with Dylan Hey, good vibes
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For sure next guys on Chill went on the podcast
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is a real world CanCon o gee. He made his
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return of The Challenge All Stars and Challenge forty getting
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a second place that of all of the different eras,
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it is Derek, Derek, how are you doing today?
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Hello? I'm good. I'm good. I'm literally just chilling Wednesdays
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or my days off, So this is my days to
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get everything done and then normally we'll host something to
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watch the episodes, but now it's just three Union. I
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don't if we're gonna do it tonight because everybody's working,
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so I might just watch about myself later.
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Yeah, So I start of every podcast the same. I
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want to just do a mental health check. How are
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you doing? You know, twenty twenty four, so you film
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the reality show where people tell you either they love
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you or they hate you, So how are you doing
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mentally in oh, twenty twenty five now?
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Actually, yeah, it's been twenty five as of right now.
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I'm good. I try not to let that stuff get
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to me. I mean, I know sometimes it does because
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people say stuff that I'm just like that is just
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like absolutely not true, Like you guys are where is
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that even coming from? So it's like you got to
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clap back at some people, but I don't let them
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bother me, like it literally, like it's fun to like
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throw shade at some people and talk shit to people
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because theyn't think they're gonna you're gonna say something. But honestly,
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it doesn't get under my skin that bad. So it
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doesn't affect me, thankfully, because I know there's a lot
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of people that like can't deal with with that, you know,
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So yeah, it doesn't bump me. So I'm good. I'm
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in a good spot, perfect, And I just want seventy
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five thousand dollars.
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Great for sure, for sure? Have you got that money yet?
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I don't know, maybe they're signed, maybe they'll be signed.
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So I want to bring it back beginning. If you
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don't mind, let's talk. Can't kun You were on season
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twenty two of the Real Worlds. I want to know
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about what you can say about your casting story. Was
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this a show you were trying to get on? Was
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this people that reached out to you? Can you just
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kind of talk about how you ended up in Cancun?
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Those you know other people.
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Actually I win as a friends plus one to the
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open casting call, and she was like, please go with me,
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Like I don't want to go by myself. And back then,
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like you had to wait in lines and lines of people,
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like there was like miles of people. Yeah, And because
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she had auditioned for Real World Hollywood, every time they
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come back into your city, they basically say like bring
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a friend and skip the line. So she's like, that's
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why she wanted to mante it go so she could
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skip the line. So we went down there and it
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was this cool piano bar that's that was really popular
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back in the day. And it's basically a ten person
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like open interview where there's a casting director in ten
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people circled around him and they go around, like just
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ask you to introduce yourself, say something interesting about yourself,
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and all these people were like trying to impress them
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so bad. It was like embarrassing, like people just being extra.
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And I remember being the last I was. I was
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sitting to her right, so I was number ten, and
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I remember she gets to me and I was like, Oh,
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I'm Derek. I I'm from a really small town in
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New Mexico. I graduated valedictorian in my class and everybody's
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like ooh, and I was like, yeah, I'm thirty seven.
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People say, you know, I'm super smart, you know, And
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so that was I made her laugh. And then this
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is the year that Obama was getting elected, so two
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thousand and eight, and it was right before that. So
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she was asking about politics and people just were arguing
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about Democrats Republicans, and then she looks at me and
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I'm like, I'm gay, I'm voting for Obama. That's all
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I said. And so then asked us about like cheating
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or something, and I don't remember what I answered, but
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at the end of it, she was like putting people's
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applications in line, and then she would say their name
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and say like all right, if we like what you
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we read later today, like we'll be in contact with you.
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So then she gets to my name and she looks
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at me and she holds it, and then she looks
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at two other people's names and she holds theirs and
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she's like, all right, you three made it to the
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next part of our casting call. It's basically filling out paperwork,
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and she's like, it's going to be a while. So
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if you have somebody here with you, they might want
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to leave and come back and pick you up or
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wait for you whatever. So I tould my friend, I'm
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like sorry, like I don't know. I was like, and
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I'm the one who drove. So I was like you what,
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And it's we were underage at that time, so she
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couldn't go like to any bars, and I think she had
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to literally like just wait. But I had gone in.
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And the second part, when we were filling out paperwork,
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john May was already there and I had worked with
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started I've just started work with Johnny like maybe like
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two three weeks prior to this, So she was in
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there and I was like, what are you doing here?
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And I was just like long story, and I was like, yeah,
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I'm just gonna fill it out. My friend Amber, my
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roommate at the time, who's the one that told me
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to go. She was like, I was like yeah, she
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and she worked with us too. I was like, yeah,
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I made it, Like I came as Amber's plus one
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and I made it. So I'm just gonna pull it out.
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We're not We'll never hear from them again, like you know, yeah.
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So we literally just I went out that night. We
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went to this haunted house because it was in October,
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and I got a phone call and I've learned down
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the road, when you get an eight one eight number,
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pick it up because it's a good number to hear from.
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So we I was at this haunted house and we
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had been drinking. We're under age and stuff. We had
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been drinking, and I remember answering in. She's like, it's
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so and so from you know, Marie and MTV, we
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really liked what you said in your paperwork. Would you
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want to come in for a video interview tomorrow. I'm
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like yeah, sure, Like like what and so I was
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like yeah. She's like, so it's going to be super early.
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You're one of the first ones, so make sure that
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you're not drinking. Make sure you're not hungover because we
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need you to be on and I was like, oh, yeah, no, no,
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I'm not drinking, you know. And so I went to
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the next part of the interview, had the same interview
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person did my. It was like a three hour like
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video interview, talking about my paperwork and stuff and just
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asking questions and then we ran out of tape and
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she was like oh. She's like, I didn't even realize
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we're talking that long. So she's like, give me a hug.
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I love you. She's like, you're going to go into
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the next part of our casting process, which is making
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a video, and I was like, okay. I was like,
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do people and back then this was still back then,
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I was like, do people even have video cameras anymore?
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Like what is this? So? And like, long story short,
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I made a video and me and Johnny were like, oh,
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you made it this far. I've made it this far.
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And we're just like we're both doing the same thing
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and kind of competing, and so then we were laughing
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because we were we learned that hearing all right, if
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we like what we say, we'll give you a call
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back in a couple of weeks. Meant they were done
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with you. That was like code for that you're done. Yeah,
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So as long as we didn't hear that, we were fine.
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So a couple months, like it's October, November passes it,
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we're gonna be right before Thanksgiving and I hadn't heard
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from him in a while, and I called them and
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I was like, hey, I lost my phone and I
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just got a new one back, Like I don't know
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if you guys have been trying to call, but like
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what's going on, Like, oh no, we haven't done those
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calls yet for another interview, but you're still in the
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running for it, so don't worry. I'm like, okay, cool.
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So then they called I go to this interview. He
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interviews john A first and then it's me, and he's like,
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you got a lot of you got, like I really
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really like john A, Like you got to like really
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pick it up. I was like, oh you like Johnny.
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I was like you might like herpies too, because she's
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a slut. Like I was just talking shit, you know,
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and he's like whoa. And I was like, I mean,
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you asked for it. So he like did my interview
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and then he told me, he's like, all right, if
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we like you, we'll call you back in two weeks,
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and I'm like whoa. So I was like oh no.
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So then it was like finals coming up, and it
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was around the two three weeks. No, sorry, I take
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it back. I got that guy's interview first, and then
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the two weeks scared me and that's why I called
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them and they said you're in the running for it,
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that's what it was. Yeah, I reversed that, so I
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was like, all right, cool. After I called that, they're like, yeah,
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you're STI in the running, don't wry about it. I'm
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like all right. I still hadn't heard from them. Then
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it was the call to get to the final interview
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in LA and this is in December now, and John
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May got her call first and they told us she
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made it to the finals. So I was like, oh,
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that means they're not going to pick me. So they're
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not going to pick both of us, and so I
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was like fuck, Like that sucks. And then all of
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a sudden, I picked up my phone and it's them
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and they're like, hey, you're coming to So I go
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to LA first, do all my interviews, talk to the
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executive producer. They tell us where it's going to be
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And this is where I'm like, maybe I'm close to
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making it for real, because like why would they tell
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me where we're going? And so I basically told them too,
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because I was like, I didn't want us to get
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in trouble because in production world and stuff like, you're
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not supposed to know anybody. You're like, it's literally supposed
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to be secretive everything, not supposed to tell anybody, like
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any of that stuff. So I was worried that it
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was going to ruin mine or john Any's chances if
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they found out that we knew each other. So I'm like, hey,
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I'm just setting, you know, like I work with somebody
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and I know somebody that's here or is going to
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be here, So I don't want to like ruin our chances.
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And the executive producer, Jim Johnson, he's like, if we
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like both of you, you guys both have depict if
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one of you was cool, like, we'll pick one. If
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we don't like either of you, you like, you know,
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you won't make it. Like it's not that I'm like
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all right, just setting, you know. So then the last
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thing they had me to do was make the confessional.
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I went into this confessional room, and I did this
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confessional about this guy that I used to know back
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in high school that was a really big fan of
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The Challenge in the real world, and he actually was
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auditioning for the same season as mine because it was
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that one where the fans could pick somebody and that's
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how I got on. Yeah, so he was trying to
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do that and he was like, I had no idea
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that I was trying out too. So I did this
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whole confessional about him and how I was like, I'm
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pretty sure I made the show, like like just talking shit,
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you know. So then in a few weeks goodbye, and
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I'm like all right. They're like, they're like, you will
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hear from us specifically by this date because like you'll
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have to because filming starts soon after that. So it's January.
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Now I'm working and I get this phone call and
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it's this guy Damien, who works for him, and talk
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to him, talk to another girl. Then I talked to
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somebody else again and they're like, so I have some
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bad news. I was like shit, and they're like, you're
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gonna have to find somebody to sublet your room because
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you made the show. And I was like, holy shit,
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and then I didn't say anything for a little He's like,
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are you okay. I'm like, dude, wants to hang up.
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I'm probably gonna scream like a little girl. This is insane.
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And he's like yeah. He's like, so we'll give you
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some information, have your contract sent out, blah blah blah
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blah blah, congratulations. I can't wait to see you guys,
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and hopefully we have some fun in Cancun. And I
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was like all right. So then I was like, well, shit,
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that means that I made it and john A didn't
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make it. So like I'm not going to call her.
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That's rude, Like I'll give it. I'll wait till she
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calls me to see like if she didn't make it
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or you know what, I'll just wait. So I was
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going back to work because I was in I had
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a break, so I went to go get an energy
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drink and I came back to work and I get
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a call from Johnny and she's like I made the show.
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I made the show. And I'm like what a bitch?
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Like I literally is gonna wait for her, and so
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I would and hurt her feelings and she's like just
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rubbing it into my face. I'm like, well, guess what,
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I already got my call and I made the show too,
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so it was just like all right, cool. So then
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we went there and it was like trying to figure
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out if we should pretend like we know each other
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or not. Yeah, And as soon as we got to
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the table and we kind of got the vibe of everybody,
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it was like, oh, we'll let everybody know that we
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know each other. Yeah, so until we got on.
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Perfect And I want to ask you, because I know
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the Saint Thomas cast have said they didn't love the
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Saint Thomas location, right, you also had a tropical location
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in CanCon. Did you like being a cantcuon? Would you
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have preferred like a city, like, you know, a Chicago.
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I mean, I know Brooklyn was for you guys. DC
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was after you guys. Would you have preferred one of those?
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Or did you like being, you know, in his exotic location?
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Oh? I know Saint Thomas didn't like their location because
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they had to use a boat to get in and
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out of their island where so that was probably hectic.
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I liked Cancun for the first two and a half months.
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It just got really tiring because it was literally the
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same thing every week because we just dealt with spring
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break different weeks, like every week, so it was just
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very repetitive. But the location in our house was sick,
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so like I didn't mind that. Yeah, I love I
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loved living there, so it was cool to be there,
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and I think it was better for me and John
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at least because the first month that we were there,
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well she stayed. She was under age the entire time.
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She was twenty and I didn't turn twenty one till
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a month in, So I would have been pissed if
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I was there in the US city and couldn't drink
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with everybody, you know for sure. So No, I loved
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I loved our location, and I loved our house. I
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think it's still one of the best houses that there was. Ever.
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If you were on you know, Brooklyn or DC, how
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do you think you would have done with that cast?
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Because they have some different personalities. You know, in Brooklyn
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we had Sarah and Chad and Caitlin and d C
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was Emily and Tie and that crew. Do you think
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you would have done better with a certain cast over
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the other between DC and Brooklyn.
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Well, I feel like with those casts, like I don't
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think I was cast to be on a serious season
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like those two seasons. Okay, So I feel like I
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was cast perfectly for my season because after Brooklyn, because
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Brooklyn was like real and there was some issues and
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transgen the first transgender person like JD was abused like
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it was a chat being a more like it was
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like very like deep, you know. So I think they
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figured like, hey, we need a little relief and fun
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after that season. So then they went to our season,
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had a party season. It wasn't really I mean, we
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had some issues and like there was a lot of
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drama and all that kind of stuff too, but it
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wasn't deep, like it was very outer surface, you know,
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like it was very we were there, sorry, we were
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there to be pretty have fun, party and fight with
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each other, you know. And then DC afterwards was very
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because of like where they were at political and all
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that kind of stuff. That's just not my vibe. I
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still would have tried to have been like the party person,
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who let's have fun, let's kiky, let's I don't know.
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I just feel like I was cast perfectly my season.
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I think maybe like a Vegas one I would have
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been good with, or maybe even New Orleans just because
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of like the areas that they are. But yeah, I
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was I'm very very happy with my location and I'm
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very happy that I wasn't before or after.
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And you know, what were your thoughts on the cast overall?
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There were definitely some issues with Joey. I mean, he
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definitely some issues with Joey overall. He was kicked out eventually.
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But do you keep in touch with any of them still?
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What was your first impressions of them? You know, what
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was just your thoughts on the people that you were with,
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minus Johnny obviously because you knew her well.
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I figured they were going to put me on with
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somebody who was super homophobic or super I don't know,
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anti like racist, I don't know. I just felt like
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the questions that they were asking me prior to getting
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on the show, who gets into your skin? What kind
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of people do you not get along with? What kind
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of people? Like are you afraid of? Like that kind
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of stuff? I was like, Oh, they're definitely putting me
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in with some Alabama fucking jock that hates Gaze, you know.
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And when I got there and everybody's like, yeah, we
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have a gay roommate, I'm like, oh, this is different,
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you know. So I didn't have I mean, I was
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liked by everybody, and I didn't really have any issues
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with anybody because I don't know, I just clicked with everybody. Yeah,
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Joey had his issues, but they weren't with me. And
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as long as like he wasn't completely destroying things or
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like hurting anybody or hurting himself or anything like I was.
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I was friends with Joy and me and Joey clicked
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and got along very well. Me and Brownie were the
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closest the out of the house getting in there. But yeah, yeah,
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I still every now and then I contact Joey to
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say Hi, CJ. I keep in contact more with John
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May and Emily than I do it to anybody else.
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I talk to Jazz every now and then too. A yeah,
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I don't really talk to not because there there's any issues.
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She just kind of fell off the plant, like the
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face of the earth, like she's doing her own thing.
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And then Bronnie went back into the services, so he's
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kind of just done with all this kind of thing.
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So I try to message him every now and then
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he's just just not this thing anymore interesting.
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So let's talk about the challenge. You go into cut Throat,
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and you know the challenge when you started, it's very
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different than the challenge. Now it was legit the Royal
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World of Road Rulfs Challenge. But when you got the
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call for the challenge, was it something you were like
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dead said, I'm doing it? Did you have to think
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about it? Because it's a different ballgame than the real world, right,
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the real world's more and live your life and the
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challenge is like you got some assholes in there that
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are trying to stir the pop.
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Yeah. So I was actually a fan of the Challenge.
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I wasn't a fan of the real world growing up.
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So knowing that I was on the real world, like
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while we were there, we were like, hey, we might
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all we might all get a chance to be on
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the Challenge. Guys like this is cool. And so when
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I got to call for Cutthroat, I'm like, hell, yeah,
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let's go. It's gonna be fun. I'm gonna kick ass,
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Like I'm gonna just like destroy it. But then I
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forgot I like my era of the Challenge was still
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very much if you're a rookie, you go in no
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matter what, Like it doesn't matter if you're good. We
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need to get the rookies out, which I was like,
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we have make easy on our team, guys, really like
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I'm the one you guys want to go for. It
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was just like and I didn't. It's just I don't know.
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I I get it why I was because I was
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just disposable back then. They didn't know me, they didn't
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know what I was capable of. But it was just like, fuck,
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this is a cool season. Like I just wished I
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could have like lasted longer, you know, just because it
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was like they hadn't done a season like that before. Yeah,
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so it was brand new. I just wanted to like
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just experience I even just wanted to experience two to three.
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And then I'm like, all right, cool, like if you
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want to try to kick me out, kick me out,
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but not first.
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Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. What was it like
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meeting all these other people from the real world that
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you didn't do seasons with, like chat Tie, We met Bananas, Sarah, Emily,
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I mean, car and Laura. Real world was for you, you know,
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you kind of know what I mean.
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Yeah, it was cool just because like I had seen
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like I mean, i'd seen Bananas before and all that
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stuff and doing the real world. Like once you'd get off,
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most of them were like, yay, you guys, welcome to
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the family. Like the alumni are were really cool. They
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all reached out like you would usually see them. We
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were always in New York for something or filming something,
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or at a reunion party or at an appearance, and
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people would just show up. So it was cool to
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meet people that way. And then it was cool to
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meet people that on the Challenge and it's like people
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like bananas and cts and wesses that I've seen growing
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up on the Challenge. It's just like, holy shit, this
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is cool, Like these are the guys I hate that guy.
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I hated that guy on the like you know, it's
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just am I going to get along with them? Am
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I going to just not like them because of how
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they treated people and girls back in the day? You know,
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Am I gonna be always targeted if I'm on the
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show with these guys. So it was a learning process,
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but it was a good experience. I just didn't want
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it to hinder me ever getting asked back because I
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got sent home first, you.
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Know, Yeah, and I get that for sure. You eventually
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come back on Battle of seasons, and this is a
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lot of people's favorite season, a.
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Lot of people's least favorite season too, which is I
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thought we provided a lot And I know it's why.
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I know why. It's because there wasn't any fucking There
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wasn't any vets on there that they liked. It was
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all fucking for sure.
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I mean, you guys did very well. You and John
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I got right before the final ri were Cancoons, san
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Diego bag all these Reil worlds working together, got Wes
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and Austin out early, Fresh meets out early. You want
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to talk about specific moment though, if you could recall
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the rob Marie sam Knight, do you remember like what
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started that and where your headspace was during that and
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then after that, because a lot of people view that
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as like a really iconic moment in a challenge.
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Literally almost everybody in that house was fighting. It was crazy.
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Yeah.
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It basically started with me and Nannie talking about how
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I wasn't being a good friend to her, basically because
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of there was this prank that people played and threw
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pizza in her bed and they called their pizza Nanni
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like it was or Nanny pizza or something, And I
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laughed to look, I didn't stick up for Nannie because
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at that point, Nanni had been living in Arizona and
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we were hanging out a lot, so I was really
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good friends with Nanni. But like, and I think it
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was San Diego, Frank or Night and them that were
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like doing it, and I thought it was funny. And
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then I think it's because like Night, and I could
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be wrong with Timeline because I haven't seen that season
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in so long, but it could be because how Night
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threw her shit into the pool as well, and I
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didn't really like stop him. But I also wasn't paying
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attention to what happened. We were just viewing after the fact.
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So it kind of started with me and Nanny and
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Frank chimed in about something and then they went after it,
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but I was like no, I was like, I was
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arguing and I have something to say, like so then
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we all started getting into it, yelling at each other.
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Then Rob tried to like get me away from yelling
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at Nannie. I threw Rob on the floor. Marie saw that.
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I'm turned around. Marie comes and pushes me into Sam
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into a plant. I just back to stuff and start
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00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:57.119
fighting with Rob again. Rob takes Marie out, Dustin and
476
00:21:57.160 --> 00:22:00.200
Frank start getting into it. It was just like what
477
00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:03.599
is going on? Like messy like it was. There was
478
00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:05.960
other shit that wasn't shown, like Nonny through plates at
479
00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:10.480
Frank like like it was bad. Oh I've never been
480
00:22:10.519 --> 00:22:12.599
in anything like that, And I was like, holy shit,
481
00:22:12.759 --> 00:22:17.079
Like I'm supposed to be the nice guy. But I mean,
482
00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:19.440
like I said, I've always said I can get to
483
00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:22.759
that point, I just have never people lately haven't been
484
00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:25.799
making me get to that point. People haven't like come
485
00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:27.720
for me, they haven't come after me, they haven't talked shit.
486
00:22:27.880 --> 00:22:30.000
So I'm like when people are like, oh, you don't
487
00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:31.960
really like cause drama or whatever, I'm like yeah, because
488
00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:33.519
I don't want to cause drama unless I have to
489
00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:36.880
be in it. I'm not fake because like even in Cutthroat,
490
00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:39.559
I got into a fight with Vinnie that showed and
491
00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:41.720
I feel bad because I was fat shaming him, but
492
00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:43.680
it was just also like I was kind of drunk
493
00:22:43.680 --> 00:22:46.119
and we were fighting and I'm a little i was
494
00:22:46.119 --> 00:22:48.480
a little petty gay that went after looks, you know,
495
00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:50.440
like it was one of those what else am I
496
00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:51.319
going to go after him for?
497
00:22:51.359 --> 00:22:51.559
You know?
498
00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:54.680
Or you gotta dig deep. You gotta like fucking cut
499
00:22:54.680 --> 00:22:57.279
people where it hurts if you're arguing with them. So
500
00:22:57.839 --> 00:22:59.799
I know how to like hold my own and I
501
00:22:59.799 --> 00:23:01.440
know how to get into drama if that's what people
502
00:23:01.480 --> 00:23:04.039
really want. But like, I'm an older lady now and
503
00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:06.359
I don't really need to like get into involved in
504
00:23:06.359 --> 00:23:08.960
stuff that doesn't involve me. Yeah, don't think I won't
505
00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:11.200
take don't think I won't take these hooped earings off
506
00:23:11.960 --> 00:23:12.720
and fucking come.
507
00:23:12.799 --> 00:23:16.480
You know well, Rivals Too was the next season, and
508
00:23:16.519 --> 00:23:20.400
you and You and Rob were thrown in pretty like
509
00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:23.240
week one over Jordan and Marlon, who were rookies. Why
510
00:23:23.240 --> 00:23:26.119
do you think you guys got that early vote over
511
00:23:26.119 --> 00:23:27.559
those rookies that they didn't really.
512
00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:31.279
Know, So we got that vote prior to knowing that
513
00:23:31.319 --> 00:23:36.400
the girls were going to vote just the guys in.
514
00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:39.519
So a lot of the girls said our name because
515
00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:42.960
obviously it sounds better to say our name than somebody else's.
516
00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:45.519
But also when it got to the guys, the guys
517
00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:49.480
were going to save Marlin and Frank's name because I mean,
518
00:23:49.480 --> 00:23:51.599
because there was even tops of throwing Johnny and franken,
519
00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:54.039
you know, just because they were like, we don't want
520
00:23:54.079 --> 00:23:57.079
to go against Johnnie and Frank. So I think that
521
00:23:57.160 --> 00:23:58.960
might have started in why some of the girls because
522
00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:00.960
a Nissa's definitely didn't not want to say my name,
523
00:24:01.480 --> 00:24:04.119
but they just went with the flow. And it just
524
00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:09.160
sucks because Paula's excuse was like, we haven't really talked,
525
00:24:09.200 --> 00:24:10.759
we haven't done anything. I was like, paul I stayed
526
00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:13.039
at your house in New York, Like, like, what are
527
00:24:13.079 --> 00:24:15.079
you talking about. We've never liked, we don't talk like
528
00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:19.640
we were in cantcun together like, so her reasoning was
529
00:24:19.720 --> 00:24:21.640
kind of weird, and I think it's because she figured
530
00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:24.920
I think at that point too, you know, was it guys?
531
00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:27.799
You know, at that point, it wasn't like if a
532
00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:29.400
guy and a girl were in a final together, they
533
00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:31.279
were had to work together. So it wasn't one of
534
00:24:31.279 --> 00:24:32.839
those things where they thought they were going to be
535
00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:35.200
better in a final. I just feel like they thought
536
00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:37.200
that they were stronger competitors that would be able to
537
00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:39.960
maybe give them a favor later. Which is weird though,
538
00:24:39.960 --> 00:24:42.799
because I was in the our first challenge. I was
539
00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:47.519
in the same group as everybody that fell last, and
540
00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:51.640
only like only Zach and Trey lasted longer than all
541
00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:54.599
of us. There wasn't like me and Rob got out early.
542
00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:58.319
You know, I don't know like that one was. I
543
00:24:58.359 --> 00:25:01.039
was like, I didn't do the worst. And then so
544
00:25:01.079 --> 00:25:03.680
after we win our elimination, Paula has a nerve to
545
00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:05.480
ask me, like, so, are you guys gonna like come
546
00:25:05.519 --> 00:25:09.720
for us? Then I'm like probably, like so. And that's
547
00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:12.519
another thing too, like I wasn't very when we voted
548
00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:14.960
for their girls. I was literally like, I'm saying Sarah
549
00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:16.759
and Tochelle's name because I know they're not gonna say
550
00:25:16.759 --> 00:25:18.839
her name last. But the next time, I'm coming for
551
00:25:18.920 --> 00:25:20.480
the people who said my name. And I looked at
552
00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:23.200
Emily and Paula, so I'm like I was I was
553
00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:28.240
very young and Malviy just not knowing when to like
554
00:25:28.359 --> 00:25:31.920
not say shit. Because in turned Emily and Paula won
555
00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:34.799
again and so they were able to start off the vote.
556
00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:37.119
So it's just like that's the thing once if you
557
00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:39.680
if it's a group vote, once people start saying names,
558
00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:41.240
there's a lot of people that won't say other names
559
00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:44.759
because they don't want to like fucking piss off the house,
560
00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:47.279
which is dumb because like I'm really like I'm one
561
00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:49.079
of those people. If I want to say somebody's name,
562
00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:51.079
I will unless it like benefits us, and it's like, oh,
563
00:25:51.079 --> 00:25:54.079
it's a throwaway team anyway, But like I'm not gonna
564
00:25:54.119 --> 00:25:56.839
just do it just because interesting.
565
00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:00.799
That was a great season. But then we don't see
566
00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:05.119
you for a while, so let's talk about that. Were
567
00:26:05.119 --> 00:26:07.759
there calls coming in? Did you choose to choose to
568
00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:11.200
take a break? The next season was free agents, you know,
569
00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:13.440
and then we go all over to the twenties and thirties.
570
00:26:14.599 --> 00:26:16.960
Why was there such a break with you from the challenge?
571
00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:19.920
I don't know. I think on free agents, and I
572
00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:21.519
had gone back and forth on this and I really
573
00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:23.000
had to sit back and think if I got asked
574
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:25.759
for the free agents. I didn't get even an unavailability
575
00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:27.240
called for that one, which was weird because I was like,
576
00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:30.440
I didn't do bad. But I think it's because I mean,
577
00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:32.440
I don't want to, like say, they don't want to
578
00:26:32.519 --> 00:26:35.559
like have more than one gay person or a certain
579
00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:38.880
type of type set, you know. But because I think
580
00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:41.640
Preston and Knight did so much better than Me and
581
00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:45.119
Rob that season and they sent us home, I think
582
00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:47.440
they wanted to like showcase Preston more because then Frank
583
00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:51.039
was on that season two. Yeah, so I feel like,
584
00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:53.119
I don't know, I feel like they just wanted to
585
00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:55.839
go a different direction. And also there was already three
586
00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:57.720
Cancun girls on there. I don't think they wanted a
587
00:26:57.759 --> 00:27:02.000
fourth person from can Kun on as well. But I
588
00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:04.039
don't know. I really wish I had done diffree Agents
589
00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:05.359
because I was like, that would have been cool, and
590
00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:09.400
then Free Agents. Then what was it next? Ro Exus two.
591
00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:13.039
I got a call for that one, so I'm assuming
592
00:27:13.400 --> 00:27:16.240
they called Frank and Marlin and both of them declined
593
00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:20.640
because those would be my only two options. And then
594
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:24.640
we got free we got Bloodlines, which I got asked
595
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:26.920
for bloodlines, and my cousin and me made it to
596
00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:31.759
like right before like they confirmed us, and then at
597
00:27:31.759 --> 00:27:34.599
the last minute, production was like, Hey, your cousin's a teacher.
598
00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:37.640
I just we need to like have her either like
599
00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:40.200
she has to show out or I don't think you
600
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:41.720
guys are gonna make it, and we also don't want
601
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:43.920
to like screw her career up, you know. And I
602
00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:46.680
was like, Okay, So they dropped us on that one,
603
00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:50.640
and then I got a call for Rivals three, and
604
00:27:50.680 --> 00:27:54.119
I'm assuming it would have been Marie. I don't know, probably,
605
00:27:55.960 --> 00:27:59.720
so I don't know. After that, I was surprised I
606
00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:02.119
didn't it calls for Invasion because I fit that theme.
607
00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:04.480
Yeah, I was going to say, I thought Invasion had
608
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:05.200
been perfect for you.
609
00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:08.720
Yeah, so I don't. I think they were just trying
610
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:10.319
to like introduce, Like I think at that point I
611
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:12.640
hadn't been on four seasons, like, oh, let's just introduce
612
00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:15.279
some other people. And then they had Chain on that one,
613
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:17.640
which would have been which was there like, oh, let's
614
00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:20.920
bring somebody back from old school kind of thing. So
615
00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:24.640
I think I just didn't. There was two like I didn't.
616
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:26.440
It was either me or Shane kind of thing, and
617
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:28.599
they went with Shane, which is fine because he was
618
00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:30.759
he provided that season. And then then I didn't fit
619
00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:33.279
the theme for the thirties thirty thirty one or thirty two.
620
00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:35.880
I didn't fit that theme. And then War of the
621
00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:37.960
World's Won and too It's like, okay, I hadn't even
622
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:40.039
been on forever, so then I was just I had
623
00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:41.319
given up. At that point, I'm like, I'm never going
624
00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:44.160
to get called for the show ever again, which is fine.
625
00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:45.960
So that's why I went back to school and got
626
00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:48.440
my degree and did everything because I'm like, well, this
627
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:51.759
isn't happening anymore. So I got to like being a
628
00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:55.880
big girl now and get a corporate job or you know.
629
00:28:56.000 --> 00:29:00.559
But no, and then i get a Johnny calls for
630
00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:03.480
All Stars and I'm like, oh, there's hope, hopefully this
631
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:05.640
does well. And it killed lcars when killed it. So
632
00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:07.960
then I get a call for All Stairs two and
633
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:10.039
it was like not even like a hesitation. They're like,
634
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:11.359
do you want to do Ul Stars two? I'm like yeah,
635
00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:12.640
They're like, all right, You're on the cast. I'm like,
636
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:17.559
oh that's different. So yeah. Then I was on All
637
00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:20.079
Stirs too, and now I'm back on the screens.
638
00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:23.160
Yeah, what is your what is your job that you're
639
00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:23.599
doing now?
640
00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:27.480
I work, so I own my own business on my
641
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:31.559
own mobile bar business. But I've always because especially with
642
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:35.759
doing the shows again. So I was bartending for the
643
00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:37.839
longest time, and then I went and moved to Napa
644
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:40.279
to open up a bar and do the general manager
645
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:43.119
there for a year. But then I got called for
646
00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:46.960
All Stars four and I made it the entire time.
647
00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:49.599
So I my replacement because I was going to be
648
00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:53.160
going to and opening up multiple stores. My replacement needed
649
00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:55.519
to replace me. Quicker than it was supposed to happen.
650
00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:57.839
So when I got back, like, I really just didn't
651
00:29:57.839 --> 00:30:01.799
have anything else to do, and so my friends were like,
652
00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:03.279
because I did it with my friends are like, hey,
653
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:04.839
so we don't really have anything for you to do,
654
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:07.599
but like we still kind of want you to, like
655
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:09.920
help her out if you want to. I'm like, no,
656
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:12.480
Like it's fine. So I didn't work the rest of
657
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:14.920
that summer, and I got a job just marchining at
658
00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:18.000
this and doing events for this golf place, because events
659
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:22.720
is what I wanted to do. And then I started
660
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:25.200
doing all these shows again. But I really wanted to
661
00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:26.960
start my own business, so I just started my own
662
00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:29.000
mobile bar business.
663
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:34.160
I love that. Love that. Do you have plans to
664
00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:36.359
do more seasons of the Challenge forty one, forty two
665
00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:38.240
or you know, what are your thoughts on that?
666
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:40.400
I mean, if people are going to ask me to
667
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:42.000
come onto a show, I'm not going to say no.
668
00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:47.400
Like it's it's fun, it's competitive, it's my style. I
669
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:50.720
did well the last two. I mean, there's only one
670
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:52.240
more thing I need to do on the show is
671
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:55.160
when And I just showed I'm capable of doing it,
672
00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:59.119
So hopefully hopefully fingers crossed. I don't know how many
673
00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:00.480
times people want to see me in a row, but
674
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:01.839
I know there's people that have done like eight in
675
00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:04.000
a row, so I'm not at that point yet. So
676
00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:05.680
oh sure, Well.
677
00:31:05.640 --> 00:31:07.680
Let's play a quick game, because you know you met
678
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:09.440
a lot of people in forty I want to just
679
00:31:09.480 --> 00:31:12.240
do first improvidence of people you met and some of
680
00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:16.519
your first impression when you first met them. Thank pretty easy.
681
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:23.160
The first one is from Air three. She's definitely a fireball,
682
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:24.400
but people love her Amanda.
683
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:28.119
So I had talked to Amanda prior to that, like,
684
00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:30.599
and we had been chit chatting because she loves like
685
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:35.359
my Twitter beef with that one person and she so
686
00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:37.279
I just knew that she was going. But as soon
687
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:39.000
as I saw her, like the first night that we
688
00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:40.680
were there, because we were in a hotel for a
689
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:42.480
little while, so I mean, I know it's supposed to
690
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:43.880
be first impression, so I didn't really get like the
691
00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:45.720
first impression of who she actually was because we were
692
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:47.759
all in our hotel room. But when we were in
693
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:49.240
the house and the first thing that she does is
694
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:51.200
fight with Tony, I'm like, there she is. I'm like
695
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:58.799
my first impression was she what's the word the way
696
00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:02.680
that I'm looking for? She basically how people perceive her.
697
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:06.200
She showed out and showed up one hundred percent that person.
698
00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:08.559
She's one hundred percent who people say she is.
699
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:12.079
And then one of the listener questions we have later
700
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:14.680
is about your Twitter beef by the way, so we
701
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:18.720
think that if you want, I want to talk about
702
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:21.480
next Michelle Meeting Michelle for the first.
703
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:26.799
Time, love her girl. Olivia told me she's like, you're
704
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:29.039
going to love her, and I fell in love with
705
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:33.240
her just she's so like, she's she's my heart, that's
706
00:32:33.240 --> 00:32:33.640
my girl.
707
00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:36.880
What about Devin Walker?
708
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:42.000
Surprisingly likable?
709
00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:45.640
Okay, okay, explain you're good.
710
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:48.680
Well I was. I wasn't I just because of just
711
00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:50.440
being a fan of the show watching him. I was
712
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:52.599
just like, I don't know if I'm ever like go
713
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:55.359
from but he was just super cool with me, never
714
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:59.839
started anything with me, never talked shit. So yeah, super likable,
715
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:01.000
surprisingly likable.
716
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:04.799
First impression of Jordan meeting him back in the day
717
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:06.680
and then seeing him now on forty.
718
00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:13.799
As if we had been friends the entire time. Oh really, yep.
719
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:17.200
He literally just took me with open arms again, was
720
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:21.200
like Javez, like as if we had just had hadn't
721
00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:23.799
seen each other in a little while, okay, and he
722
00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:26.240
had he had seen my brother like a month prior
723
00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:29.039
to that at a concert here in Arizona. So yeah,
724
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:31.359
it was like as if we had been doing these
725
00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:32.880
seasons together for the longest time.
726
00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:33.880
Fix.
727
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:37.319
But also I was kind of like, fuck Jordan's here.
728
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:41.119
Yeah, I feel like a lot of people say that. Yep,
729
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:44.480
same thing. First impression meeting her back in the day
730
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:45.759
and then seeing her Laurel.
731
00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:51.839
So I met her on Cutthroat and I wasn't the
732
00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:54.319
biggest Spanish. She really didn't pay any mind to me,
733
00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:56.119
Like I didn't really. I don't think I ever had
734
00:33:56.119 --> 00:34:01.880
one conversation with her on Cutthroat. And then our next
735
00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:05.440
one that we did was All Stars four, and she
736
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:08.679
was still kind of just hesitant to like be talkative
737
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:11.480
at first, but then when she warmed up, she was
738
00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:14.639
cool and we worked together really well. Yeah, and so
739
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:18.320
it was nice like finding somebody that at that caliber
740
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:20.920
that was always literally like, hey, so what's your plan
741
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:22.360
for this? And I was like that She's like, all right,
742
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:25.119
you need to do this also, but that's a good idea,
743
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:28.559
and so like she was just very it was very
744
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:31.800
cool to like have something like that, and then on
745
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:35.079
forty it was it was just I don't know, she
746
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:37.800
was nice, but it wasn't like the same it was
747
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:40.960
it wasn't the same, which I figured because Jordan and
748
00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:42.639
Bananas were there, So I wasn't going to be her
749
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:44.679
number one. I knew. I knew for sure I was.
750
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:47.000
I knew that I wasn't in a bad spot with her,
751
00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:49.719
and I knew like there was other people she would
752
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:54.039
want to take out before me, but like just the
753
00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:56.360
way that she treated Kara and stuff, it was just like, oh,
754
00:34:56.440 --> 00:34:59.159
and then she got into it Ryan, I'm just like, well,
755
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:02.719
she's really like isolating herself for my friends. Like I
756
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:05.960
don't want to be not that my friends would do it,
757
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:07.360
but I don't want to be in that position where
758
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:08.840
they're like, well, we're not friends with her, why are
759
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:10.800
you friends with her? You know? And I'm like, well,
760
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:13.000
I'm not really friends with her. I'm an acquaintance with her,
761
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:14.840
who work well with her on one season. We don't
762
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:17.119
even like, we don't talk outside of the show, so
763
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:20.679
we gonna call us friends. But now that she gave
764
00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:23.159
me two karma points, bitch, like.
765
00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:26.239
The karma point is really.
766
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:29.440
Not that it mattered. I still dominated that part, so
767
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:31.760
and I knew I was going to so h.
768
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:36.559
Whatever thoughts on meeting Jenny West.
769
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:40.079
Oh, she's hilarious. You can't understand the bitch, but she
770
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:42.880
is hilarious and she loves guinea pigs.
771
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:43.760
She's great.
772
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:49.519
She's good, but I mean, but also she talks way
773
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:53.519
too much. She'll literally sit there and just talk and
774
00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:55.360
talk and talk, and you won't get a word in it.
775
00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:57.400
It's just her talking, and she just talks and talks
776
00:35:57.400 --> 00:36:00.320
and talks, and I'm like, oh my gosh, you didn't
777
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:00.960
ever shut up.
778
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:08.239
And then I just have a question about bananas you
779
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:10.199
know where, because you guys are on the same team,
780
00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:13.800
and you know, he's so called the face of the show, right,
781
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:16.239
so what was it like meeting him back in the
782
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:19.760
day and you seeing him now, you know, all these
783
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:21.559
years later, Where do you guys stand?
784
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:26.079
Meeting him at first was cool, he was like I
785
00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:28.000
was like, not starstruck, but it was just like, this
786
00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:29.559
is cool to like do this with somebody who's been
787
00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:31.039
doing it for so long and somebody who I watched
788
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:33.840
on TV doing this. And then he threw me in first,
789
00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:35.320
which I was like, it is what it is. But
790
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:38.119
then I met him down the road when him and
791
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:40.960
Nannie kind of not dated but like talked or whatever.
792
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:43.559
We had Nania a birthday here in Arizona and he
793
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:46.639
was here doing an appearance. So he came hung out
794
00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:50.840
with my friends, hung out with like everybody, and like
795
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:53.039
that was it. And then I hadn't seen him since
796
00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:56.480
forty but I was just worried because of him being bananas.
797
00:36:56.519 --> 00:36:58.320
I thought he was going to be able to play
798
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:02.599
my game and just never be touched, never be voted in.
799
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:04.239
I thought that that's what it was going to happen,
800
00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:06.719
and I was going to go through the same, like shit,
801
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:09.079
here we go again, Like is he going to like
802
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:11.400
push to throw me in every single time? And then
803
00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:13.320
when I didn't get first in the first one and
804
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:17.960
I was possibly up for for what's it called for
805
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:21.639
elimination with Ryan, I'm like, Laurel's gonna definitely do this
806
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:23.639
because she's her and Ryan aren't friends right now, She's
807
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:26.519
they're definitely gonna put me in, and he's going to
808
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:29.599
go with it because he's like I was like, I'm expended,
809
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:32.000
Like it don't matter to these guys, you know, like
810
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:33.480
I who am I? They don't know who I am.
811
00:37:33.639 --> 00:37:35.519
The only person that knows what I what I'm capable
812
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:38.360
of is Laurel, and so I was like, well, maybe
813
00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:40.320
I have her on my side, but I was I
814
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:42.039
literally am like my first interviews, I was like, Oh,
815
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:43.880
he's gonna come for me, just and not that he
816
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:45.960
has a personal ben dead against me, it's just because
817
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:47.800
he doesn't know me, and he's not going to think
818
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:51.800
that I'm like capable of competing with them, that makes sense.
819
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:54.880
So but then he like he told me, He's like,
820
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:56.039
I told you I wasn't going to do that to you.
821
00:37:56.079 --> 00:37:58.199
I'm like, well, that's nice. And then I feel like
822
00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:03.039
because I never like sabotaged him, which I kind of
823
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:05.000
wanted to at some points, but there was just no
824
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:06.639
way we could do it because the girls were in
825
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:09.960
charge of making targets, you know. So I was just like,
826
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:12.599
there's no point, there's no way, but I could personally
827
00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:15.400
do it, and it's just not going to happen the
828
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:18.079
way I wanted to. But it ended up him going
829
00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:20.719
in multiple times, in him being the target multiple times,
830
00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:22.719
and I was just like, oh, this is cool. This
831
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:25.960
is the game. That I've always wanted to do and
832
00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:28.159
now I'm doing it, and I'm doing it against bananas.
833
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:28.840
This is cool.
834
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:32.079
I want to ask you about somebody that was people
835
00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:35.079
thought were missing from air too, and I'm sure you
836
00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:37.599
guys talked about him, but he definitely would have a spot.
837
00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:40.880
I feel like if he wanted to do it was Wes. Yeah,
838
00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:41.639
we would have.
839
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:44.960
Had this conversation multiple times with multiple, like multiple people,
840
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:46.480
and I was like, yeah, I think Wes would be
841
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:50.840
a big face, but obviously he would have had to
842
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:54.039
have replace replace somebody. And then I don't like to
843
00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:56.239
get into that conversation because I mean, we all had
844
00:38:56.239 --> 00:38:58.559
our place for a reason. Yeah it might have been
845
00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:02.480
because Wes Wes didn't, yes, but I don't know, Like
846
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:05.239
I feel like he would have been a good addition
847
00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:07.199
we all of us.
848
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:08.760
How do you think you guys would have worked together?
849
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:11.559
Do you think it would have been the West Banana Show?
850
00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:13.280
Do you think they would have targeted each other? I mean,
851
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:14.400
if West.
852
00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:15.639
Joint, it would have been the West, it would have
853
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:18.440
been the West Banana Show. But which is weird because
854
00:39:18.519 --> 00:39:20.920
he would have had numbers because he had Neamayah and
855
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:23.760
Neamiyah is working with me, Ryan and Brandon at the
856
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:25.119
time too, so you.
857
00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:28.199
Would have had Kara, I mean, because him and Laurel
858
00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:30.039
don't don't really see Ida on a lot of things,
859
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:31.400
so it would have been interesting to see.
860
00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:33.719
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if him and
861
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:36.480
Carr are cool, are they?
862
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:39.320
They usually work together well, because Wes and PAULI are cool.
863
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:43.599
Yeah, maybe I don't. I've never asked her about that,
864
00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:45.960
and I've never would have known, But yeah, no, I
865
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:48.320
think he's one of the main people that should have
866
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:53.400
been on there regardless, like it should have been him.
867
00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:57.320
I want to know about why this isn't really anything
868
00:39:57.320 --> 00:40:01.119
like crazy, But Jordan is five times campion now and
869
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:03.519
he never saw an elimination this season his first time ever.
870
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:06.920
Was there ever talks throughout the season of like, what
871
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:09.239
the hell's going on? Why aren't we getting Jordan in there?
872
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:11.039
Or was he just really playing a great game?
873
00:40:12.719 --> 00:40:14.239
There was no way that we should send him in,
874
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:17.440
like the girls protected him, it didn't matter. And when
875
00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:19.360
he was the target the one or two times he was,
876
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.400
he won or Tory won. So it was just it
877
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:25.119
was impossible. And like people keep asking us, like I'll
878
00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:27.480
get it, I'll get constant messages about it or people
879
00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:30.360
like here and like in real life were like bro,
880
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:32.679
like why did you guys let Jordan slide through the final?
881
00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:35.239
Like we didn't. There's no, we didn't do it. The
882
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:38.079
girls kept him around, Tory kept him around, Laurel kept
883
00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:41.320
him around. He worked with Rachel like he had. I
884
00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:43.719
had numbers everywhere, but he just had ones that will
885
00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:46.920
like people that won and just protected him. And Tory
886
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:50.159
was Tory eventually kind of was on my side, but
887
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:54.320
like she just I was always gonna not. I was
888
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:57.880
always going to be number something other than one to
889
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:00.920
the people that were protecting Jordan's. So yeah, he played
890
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:02.639
a good political game. I almost made it too. I
891
00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:04.519
almost made it. This would have been my second season
892
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:07.079
in a row, almost not seeing an elimination and making
893
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:08.239
a final. Almost did it.
894
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:11.840
Yeah, and you've beat an elimination Beasts and Corey for sure?
895
00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:14.280
Yes I did, Yes, I did. It's nice to me.
896
00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:18.119
I want to talk about a theme that you want.
897
00:41:18.199 --> 00:41:20.400
I know a lot of people are pushing for you know,
898
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:22.880
ex'es or Rival Steam Next or even Free Agents two.
899
00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:26.039
What theme would you love to see for forty one
900
00:41:26.119 --> 00:41:26.679
or forty two?
901
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:29.960
I want to go old school. Let's do an Inferno
902
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:33.360
or a Gauntlet or a ruin something like that. I
903
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:35.880
think those would be cool. Like I've always wanted to
904
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:39.760
be a a good guy or a fucking I mean,
905
00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:43.360
I guess what's so is Gauntlet is good guys versus
906
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:47.400
bad badasses, and then no, that's Inferno, and then Gauntlet
907
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:50.440
is just rookies versus veterans, right yeah, and then I
908
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:54.039
would have loved that one too, like a full on
909
00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:56.320
veterans versus full on rookies because they did it in an
910
00:41:56.280 --> 00:41:58.360
invasion ish, but then they went against each other in
911
00:41:58.360 --> 00:41:59.719
the eliminations. I want it.
912
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:02.360
What's the rookie to you? First season? Only season or
913
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:03.320
five seasons?
914
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:05.480
No, like they used to do it. They used to
915
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:08.000
call rookies anybody that did less than two seasons, I think,
916
00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:10.599
or it's either two. It was either either three and
917
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:14.280
less or two and like yeah, two, one and none.
918
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:17.320
You know, I think that would be a rookie, okay.
919
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:20.360
Or maybe? I mean maybe, because I mean there's so
920
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:22.360
many people from different shows that have done one here,
921
00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:24.960
two there, whatever. Maybe it's somebody who hasn't done a
922
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:26.519
show ever. I don't know.
923
00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:30.280
Interesting, I want to say thank you so much for
924
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:32.039
coming on. I have some listener questions. I want to
925
00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:34.159
get to you really quick, if you don't mind. No,
926
00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:36.440
I had a lot come in, so let me get
927
00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:38.280
pull those up really quick.
928
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:45.719
There's been somebody else here that's listening.
929
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:48.199
Blending you with the couch.
930
00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:50.760
I didn't even notice there's two of them.
931
00:42:51.239 --> 00:43:01.400
Jeez. All right, So first question, did you get any
932
00:43:01.400 --> 00:43:03.920
calls for All Stars five? If so, who do you think
933
00:43:03.880 --> 00:43:04.719
your arrival would have been.
934
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:08.000
I did not, and I would have just said no
935
00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:11.719
anyway because I was literally there, and I stayed in
936
00:43:11.719 --> 00:43:16.119
the Philippines for six seven days and I would have
937
00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:18.239
had ten days to come back and go right back
938
00:43:18.239 --> 00:43:22.119
to Vietnam. So absolutely not. But there wouldn't have been
939
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:23.440
a rookie for other wouldn't have been a right well
940
00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:25.039
unless they were trying to pull the Marie thing again.
941
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:28.119
But I don't think Marie would ever come back there
942
00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:31.599
or not anytime soon, or just because of her baby.
943
00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:35.079
But I yeah, that would have been my only female,
944
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:37.440
I guess. I mean, if they really wanted to go
945
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:40.239
old school, they could pull Vinnie because that was the
946
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:42.760
other guy that I got into an argument with. Or
947
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.199
I mean Nanni was with Turbo, but they could have
948
00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:49.400
used that. I could have must leave it with Mani too,
949
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:52.119
but I think they just wanted her to have Turbo.
950
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:56.719
So yeah, if you'd have been writer dies, who would
951
00:43:56.719 --> 00:44:00.760
have been your writer die besides John A.
952
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:05.719
CJ for my season? And I think obviously they would
953
00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:07.800
want to put me and Ryan together, but I would
954
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:10.320
really want to work with Avery. I really think Avery
955
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:11.679
or Olivia would be really good.
956
00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:11.880
Right.
957
00:44:11.880 --> 00:44:15.400
It dies for me too, especially Avery after season forty. Yeah,
958
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:17.920
like the rider bit right there.
959
00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:22.760
What were your thoughts in the final being ninety water
960
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:25.079
and how do you think it would have changed the
961
00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:29.039
final rankings if it was more on land.
962
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:33.239
I mean, I don't like that it was ninety percent
963
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:35.199
water because there was no way none of any of
964
00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:37.559
us were beating Jordan, Like it doesn't even matter, Like
965
00:44:38.599 --> 00:44:41.960
there's no way. So I wish it would have been
966
00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:47.320
swimming like maybe half of it and then land half
967
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:51.320
of it. And I think it would have at least
968
00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:55.239
given us more tries to not let Jordan win so
969
00:44:55.320 --> 00:44:59.320
many first if there was more land, because like when
970
00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:01.719
I got into the I caught up to Jordan and
971
00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:03.760
I had a three minute penalty and he had already
972
00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:06.320
done one round and I still caught up to him,
973
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:08.119
and I was literally right he showed up to his
974
00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:10.679
and I walked right up to there. He finished his puzzle.
975
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:12.719
I finished my puzzle, got in the water right after him.
976
00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:16.199
So I feel like if it was Land, there just
977
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:20.159
would have been more chances for at least me, Bananas
978
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:23.519
and even Kailand to just take away the first places
979
00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:27.679
from Jordan, and it would have been a closer battle,
980
00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:30.840
like the girl's side on the guy's side had it
981
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:31.519
been more land.
982
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:37.960
Okay, somebody said, I love your Twitter beef. What are
983
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:40.960
your thoughts on the Challenge fan accounts on Twitter.
984
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:45.840
I don't mind the Challenge fan accounts because, like I
985
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:48.400
honestly don't have beef with him. It's really just joking,
986
00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:53.800
but it's like back back and forth. So like I
987
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:55.960
feel like there's a bunch of Challenge fan accounts that
988
00:45:56.000 --> 00:46:01.280
are very Challenge fan accounts that are very bias because
989
00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:04.360
they have like their number one. So like, if you're
990
00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:06.400
gonna be like a whole Challenge fan account, like I
991
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:09.599
feel like you should like not just focus on one person,
992
00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:14.000
But I do like getting into it with that one
993
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:15.880
person who are not going to name or say their
994
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:20.320
handle because it's funny because she can never clap, she
995
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:24.639
can never clap back. She's always he gets so bitter.
996
00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:26.840
So I just love it. But no, I appreciate all
997
00:46:26.840 --> 00:46:29.199
the fan accounts and like everybody that like reaches out
998
00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:31.639
and stuff, but yeah, I feel like some of them
999
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:32.800
are just a little too biased.
1000
00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:37.039
Okay, somebody said, how did you're you know, showing up
1001
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:40.760
in the final on All Stars four? Adjust your approach
1002
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:49.000
to the challenge forty.
1003
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:48.079
Well, it gave me an actual like goal because I
1004
00:46:48.159 --> 00:46:50.960
knew I could do it, And it gave me like
1005
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:54.039
a fire under my ass because I knew that this one.
1006
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:56.599
I'm not saying that the final, getting to the final
1007
00:46:56.599 --> 00:46:59.519
and All Stars four was easy by any means, but
1008
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:01.920
I felt like on this one, I was really going
1009
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:05.119
to have to work my ass off because of the
1010
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:08.920
the quality of competitor that was there and the amount
1011
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:13.440
of champions and finalists and just badasses overall that were there.
1012
00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:15.599
I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do
1013
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:17.400
and I did last one, so I'm going to have
1014
00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:19.840
to work. I'm going to have to do my social game.
1015
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:21.599
I'm going to have to make sure that, like I
1016
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:25.079
have friends everywhere, because at the beginning, we're like we
1017
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:27.599
don't know what it is. But I was like, I mean,
1018
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:29.679
and I just was very happy that like I had
1019
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:33.480
planted friends every so Olivia, I had John May and
1020
00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:36.639
I had fucking Avery. I had me and Ryan. I
1021
00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:39.960
had a niece I had at that point Rachel too.
1022
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:42.400
I had Tina. So I was just like, all right, cool,
1023
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:44.599
like I have numbers in spots. I just need to
1024
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:47.639
make sure that, like I get there. But I feel
1025
00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:50.719
like it just motivated me and it just gave me
1026
00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:53.119
that little that I needed to know that I can
1027
00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:55.440
make it because prior to that, like on Rivals Too,
1028
00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:57.039
I'm like, yeah, we're gonna get there, We're gonna do
1029
00:47:57.079 --> 00:47:59.119
the chat like we're going to make the final, and
1030
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:01.480
then it just like obviously it doesn't happen. But like
1031
00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:04.280
I don't know, I just feel like I needed to
1032
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:08.880
be in the final on four and forty, and I
1033
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:12.760
feel like that's my my my mantra going in every
1034
00:48:12.760 --> 00:48:14.639
single one now, like it's I need to be there
1035
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:19.199
and it's going to happen. So I'm my biggest fan now,
1036
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:22.039
Like I like hyped my fucking self up during my
1037
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:24.800
elimination against Corey, Like I was in those porta potts
1038
00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:27.039
and I was like, bitch, you got this. You're you're
1039
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:29.719
not losing, Like there's no way you're losing. Like I
1040
00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:32.519
was so happy going into that elimination. I've never felt
1041
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:35.119
that before. I've never felt so confident in my life.
1042
00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:40.039
And I was like, yeah, what it says?
1043
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:40.639
Do you have?
1044
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:43.119
You kept in touch with Marlin after Rivals too.
1045
00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:47.760
I'll like comment on some of this stuff every now
1046
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:51.480
and then, But he kind of like dropped off too,
1047
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:54.159
and he was doing his like music thing and his
1048
00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:58.599
fitness thing. So but like I always get like questions like, oh,
1049
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:01.559
who's your ex which who would have been your partner?
1050
00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:03.360
Who would you like to see back on the show?
1051
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:05.079
And I always say Marlin just because I feel like
1052
00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:08.440
he's somebody that I feel like was not utilized at
1053
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:09.760
all the way he should have been.
1054
00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:13.000
Yeah, and I know he's interested in coming back, so
1055
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:16.920
I'm hoping he gets a call eventually. Who do I YEA,
1056
00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:21.079
somebody said, was there anything that was unaired this season
1057
00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:23.400
that we should know about? I heard something about Kylon
1058
00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:24.280
and THEO fighting.
1059
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:30.159
I mean I didn't think they were going to show
1060
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:34.360
the ct THEO fight, which we were all like, how
1061
00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:37.079
did that not get on like the trailer or so
1062
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:38.880
I was glad that they start. I was glad that
1063
00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:42.760
they did a little behind the scenes stuck or deleted
1064
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:48.760
scenes that made the show. Finally, there was a big
1065
00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:53.480
obviously a big Laurel and Ryan fight that didn't air
1066
00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:57.519
like they had a really big fight. There was a
1067
00:49:57.559 --> 00:49:59.159
little bit of a tiff and I'm not going to
1068
00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:01.960
go into about what it was, but with Brandon and
1069
00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:13.039
Ryan that had gone on, who else I think, I mean,
1070
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:15.119
I think that's it. They did pretty well at showing
1071
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:17.119
a lot of like stuff that needed to be show.
1072
00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:19.280
There were just like fights every now and then between
1073
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:22.519
Bananas and Devin and Bananas and Michelle that like, they
1074
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:25.039
didn't show all of their fights Bananas and Tori. There
1075
00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:28.199
was a part that I'm surprised they didn't show. But me, Kara,
1076
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:31.719
Olivia and Michelle were like had each other on their
1077
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:36.840
shoulders and were listening to the Bananas and his angels
1078
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:41.159
about whatever, and they were talking about ki King and
1079
00:50:41.519 --> 00:50:43.960
so Michelle we didn't know she was gonna go up there,
1080
00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:45.760
but she went up there afterwards and was just like,
1081
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:47.400
what the fuck are you guys talking about I'm like,
1082
00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:51.480
oh my god, we weren't excited to go up, but
1083
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:53.920
we were literally like had him on the shoulders, had
1084
00:50:53.960 --> 00:50:56.320
him like this so they could hear, and they didn't
1085
00:50:56.360 --> 00:50:57.280
show that, which was weird.
1086
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:02.280
Interesting. Somebody said, who else from those Rowald seasons in
1087
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:04.960
the twenties would you like to see comeback that hasn't
1088
00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:05.920
been on the show in a while.
1089
00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:13.280
I would love to see obviously, Marie back. I would
1090
00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:17.960
love to see Trey back from her show. I think
1091
00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:24.840
it'd be cool to see thinking Dustin Zito and Heather
1092
00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:26.840
Martyr or she's not Martyr anymore, but I think that
1093
00:51:26.880 --> 00:51:30.880
would be cool. I cook, Yeah, even Naomi would love
1094
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:31.559
to see that her.
1095
00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:32.440
Yeah.
1096
00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:36.119
I really wish they would bring c J back from
1097
00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:36.679
my season.
1098
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:39.639
Okay, yeah, he's pretty cool.
1099
00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:42.519
He's cool, but he just like didn't get He always
1100
00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:45.320
got like the ship end of the stick on, like
1101
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:49.079
getting on the show and stuff, which sucks. Who is
1102
00:51:49.119 --> 00:51:51.840
after me? Did? I always had wanted to see Mike
1103
00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:54.400
Manning on the show, but he's a big actor now
1104
00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:56.639
so he wouldn't have done that. I want to see
1105
00:51:56.719 --> 00:52:02.760
Caitlin back from Brooklyn. Okay, icon and I want to
1106
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:07.960
see and I think of like the seasons after Portland. Yeah,
1107
00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:16.559
obviously Marlin. I would love to see Amo come back
1108
00:52:16.639 --> 00:52:20.159
now that he's now that she's fully transitioned, I would
1109
00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:24.280
like to see her back to see how that would happen. Oh,
1110
00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:29.119
in Preston Preston too. I would love to see Preston back.
1111
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:33.519
Somebody said, what are your thoughts on Frank returning? Finally?
1112
00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:38.159
Finally the bitch needs to He was so good. It
1113
00:52:38.239 --> 00:52:42.719
was so good, So I thought it was cool that
1114
00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:45.719
he got to get back on. I was bummed that
1115
00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:48.239
I wasn't a part of that season though, because I'm like,
1116
00:52:48.320 --> 00:52:51.599
that sucks, Like I know that they did. I know
1117
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:55.039
that he was parted with Sam and then Ashley was
1118
00:52:55.079 --> 00:52:56.679
there and I'm like that's like and Johnny was there
1119
00:52:56.719 --> 00:52:58.159
and nay, I'm like, that's our whole battle of the
1120
00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:01.000
season's crew right there. Like was I not on there?
1121
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:04.480
You know? But I thought, I think it's cool, And
1122
00:53:04.519 --> 00:53:06.920
I hope that he finds the time to be able
1123
00:53:06.920 --> 00:53:10.960
to do more because I feel like All Stars is
1124
00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:14.079
such a better filming schedule just because it's not as long,
1125
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:16.079
so a lot more people are able to say yes
1126
00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:20.280
and like those people that have said no prior to
1127
00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:22.880
it because they just don't want to be there that long.
1128
00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:26.039
And honestly, like, I don't think we needed to be
1129
00:53:26.119 --> 00:53:28.599
there that long for forty Like we got rid of
1130
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:30.400
eight people right away, so it's just like it was.
1131
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:32.239
Technically after we got rid of eight people. It was
1132
00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:35.280
a thirty two person cast, which is a normal cast. Yeah,
1133
00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:37.480
like get it in and out, Let's do it in
1134
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:39.719
six weeks and do it. Let's get let's get out
1135
00:53:39.719 --> 00:53:40.000
of there.
1136
00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:43.480
Yeah, last question I have for you. Somebody wants to
1137
00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:47.679
know who is your Matt Rushmore for guys, and you're
1138
00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:52.639
Matt Rushmore for girls of the Challenge after forty seasons.
1139
00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:58.199
I've said this one a lot of times too. Let's
1140
00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:13.599
do Jordan ct West Bananas and then uh, Veronica, car Maria, Evelyn.
1141
00:54:18.920 --> 00:54:20.800
I want to be petty and not say Laurel, So
1142
00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:21.440
I don't want.
1143
00:54:21.320 --> 00:54:23.639
To say Laurel Rachel Jenny's once twice.
1144
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:28.159
Now I'm gonna actually say Jenny over Rachel only because
1145
00:54:28.199 --> 00:54:29.840
Jenny's done it in three seasons.
1146
00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:33.480
Okay, So I love. All I cared about was Evelyn.
1147
00:54:33.559 --> 00:54:35.119
I think Avelyn is the greatest.
1148
00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:39.199
Also, let me let me take because Evelyn's won three, right, yeah,
1149
00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:42.559
let's do like so let's do the foreheads and then
1150
00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:44.920
let's have like a baby rock right here. And I'm
1151
00:54:44.960 --> 00:54:47.679
gonna put Johnny there because she's she did three. She
1152
00:54:48.159 --> 00:54:54.280
did two, but technically three because she finished ye for girls. Yeah,
1153
00:54:54.320 --> 00:54:56.159
so yeah, she's there too.
1154
00:54:56.400 --> 00:54:56.840
For sure.
1155
00:54:56.920 --> 00:54:57.360
For sure.
1156
00:54:58.000 --> 00:54:59.440
I want to say thank you so much for coming on.
1157
00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:01.440
I really pre siate it. I want to give you
1158
00:55:01.480 --> 00:55:03.840
any last words where we can find you on social media,
1159
00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:05.000
just your time to shine.
1160
00:55:06.159 --> 00:55:10.400
Yeah, so I've been on. I started getting on my
1161
00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:12.360
TikTok kick, but that's going to go away soon, so
1162
00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:15.079
I don't know of you guys trying to follow me there,
1163
00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:19.920
but it's MTV Derek C. Instagram's my my name plus C,
1164
00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:21.800
but it's all with periods, so it's D dot E
1165
00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:24.280
dot R dot E dot K dot C. Same with
1166
00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:29.519
x it's the same thing, but it's with underscores. I mean,
1167
00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:31.920
I don't really check Facebook, but you can find me
1168
00:55:31.960 --> 00:55:34.960
on Facebook. And then also my snapchat is XDC two
1169
00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:37.480
thousand and six. Follow me on there and subscribe there
1170
00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:39.679
because I show behind the stuff, seeing stuff that I
1171
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:44.159
don't show on Instagram. And then my business. It's called
1172
00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:47.159
this Drinks on d I have a Instagram for it.
1173
00:55:47.159 --> 00:55:51.159
It's literally just that name. Book me for your any
1174
00:55:51.239 --> 00:55:54.840
kind of your bartending needs. I haven't really like put
1175
00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:56.760
it on like the front of what I'm doing right now,
1176
00:55:56.800 --> 00:55:59.119
just because I've been so busy with forty and just
1177
00:55:59.159 --> 00:56:01.159
getting the start of the new year and everything. So
1178
00:56:01.679 --> 00:56:04.440
and also my computer broke down, so I've been very
1179
00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:07.440
neglectful on making my website. But you're still able to
1180
00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:10.039
book me through DMS and through my email and stuff,
1181
00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:11.840
so if you guys wanted her to do that as well.
1182
00:56:12.199 --> 00:56:14.639
Perfect. Thank you so much. All this edited and posted.
1183
00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:17.039
I'll share the links. That's all I have. I appreciate
1184
00:56:17.039 --> 00:56:18.079
you coming on. Hope you have a go rest of
1185
00:56:18.079 --> 00:56:18.400
your name.
1186
00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:21.639
Yeah, thanks for having me on. It's good talking to you, Fie.
1187
00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:23.519
I Hey.
1188
00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:26.960
Chilling with Dylan. Chilling with Dylan, Hey, Good vib sends
1189
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such an incredible feeling. The podcast that you need and
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want interviews with Viality TV stars so entertaining now you
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don't want to miss it real as it gets. Never
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know what to expect me Gotta rep Jersey, I thought
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I told you, Yes, Indeed, every week gotta bring new post.
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While I'm hey, chilling with Dylan, chilling with Dylan, Hey
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chilling with Dylan, Chilling with Dylan.
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Let's go