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This week we're headed to Japan without ever leaving Wisconsin.
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I picked up a manga and anime collection that inspired its owner to learn Japanese, move to Japan, and live there for a decade because of these comics.
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Then we look at the bizarre time American publishers thought readers wouldn't read manga, so they flipped the entire thing backwards.
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And Mrs.
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Cheddar unleashes Godzilla on all of us.
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And I dig into the Cheddar vault and pull out some of my favorite Japanese comic treasures here in the Cheddarverse.
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I am Chris from Cheddar Comics.
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Be sure to be following me on Instagram at Cheddar underscore comics for live sales, claim sales, auctions, all the good stuff and cool stuff is happening over there.
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And be sure to be following my wife, best friend, the Alfred to my Batman.
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It's Mrs.
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Cheddar Comics.
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Hey everybody.
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Follow her on Instagram at Mrs.
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Cheddar underscore comics.
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And we are, as I said, Cheddar Comics, buying and selling comics all day, every day.
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And we've got a fun one ahead of us today.
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As you can see, we're decked out in Japanese gear, front to back, top to bottom, shirts, table, books, everything.
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We have it all.
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We've got it all.
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Um, not you know, we we have a lot of great stuff to get to today.
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Um the only thing for my chit chat section is I can't talk about what book it is, but um I have this I have a big book that I bought.
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Everybody guess.
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No, don't they gotta guess?
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I have a book that I bought, and I am very excited to get it, and it was supposed to be here like it was supposed to be delivered on Saturday.
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We're recording this, it's a Thursday, and it's still on its way.
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It was gone.
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It was a big old grail, and it was just like off the grid for like five days until you told me you were like, Oh, you gotta like go on USPS and sign up for the text messages, and that will dislodge it.
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It does it every time.
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And I did that because I was being a patient little boy.
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Yeah, no, and I was waiting, and I was like, it's okay, it's fine.
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And then I did that, and literally this morning departed Louisville, Kentucky finally.
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Yep and it had been there since Saturday, so it sat there Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, sat there for five days doing nothing.
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So I thought that that it was gonna be a part of this episode, but that's okay.
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It'll be here for next week's episode.
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Yeah, we'll see.
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This works out.
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We'll see.
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Yeah, this worked out perfectly because we have um a full Japanese episode front to back.
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We've got one of our one of my favorites.
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Uh, when we can do a themed episode, you know, a collection blows in, and I use it to find out some comic history, and we happen to love Japanese culture, and we have some Japanese stuff of our own.
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We're both sporting Japanese shirts, and I've got my Japanese McFarland Spider-Man, you got a Japanese Godzilla shirt, so it worked out.
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And let's get into one of my favorite collection stories ever in this week's Tales from the Sales.
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This is Tales from the Sales.
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Christopher's Japanese collection.
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So we've got some here.
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If you're watching the video, we have some here.
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I'll show some pictures.
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We've got Akira, we have Ghosts in the Shell, we have Battle, Eletal Angel, a lot of great stuff from Christopher's collection.
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I just picked up, and the best part about Christopher's stuff when he reached out to me when I met him is the story.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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So Christopher reached out to me um on one of my websites that I buy and sell on like always advertising.
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I buy and sell.
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And he came through there.
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He's local, he's in town here in Madison, and he had a Japanese comic collection, but it was the American versions, like you're seeing here Akira, Ghost in the Shell, uh, Nausuka, stuff like that.
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I was like, great, I'll check it out.
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We've had some of those.
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I mean, I've had a handful of Akira's.
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We had an Akira collection in December.
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Yes, we did.
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It wasn't the full run, but it was most of it.
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Yes.
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And we've had, you know, I've had Ghost in the Shell over the years, and I've had the Nausica set a couple times.
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So I was like, okay, great.
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Well, that stuff always sells.
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Uh I'd I'd and myself as a I have some foreign Japanese comics.
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I was like, oh, this sounds great.
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I'd love to check it out.
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Yeah.
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Went over to um Christopher's house, met him.
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The nicest, most lovely man, one of one of my favorite people I've met.
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I mean, he was just an absolute sweetheart.
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Oh, I love hearing that.
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Yeah, he was just so kind, warm.
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Yeah.
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Um, and I just asked him, like, okay, so like where did you get all this stuff?
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You know, and it was like, what's over there?
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Maybe like eight or nine lawn boxes.
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Yes.
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And he was very meticulous too.
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He sent me a full list and everything he had, and I checked to see if it was all there, and it was all there.
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And that was all great.
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And the comics were cool, but what's the if there is an interesting story?
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To me, my my interest is the story of the collector or the story of the comics.
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And once Christopher shared his story with me, I was like, this is one of the best stories I've ever heard.
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So Christopher discovered anime from a friend in the 90s.
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Okay.
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He had a friend in high school who liked the anime cartoons and had some of the mangas and some of the books, and he shared them with Christopher.
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So he started getting more into them and reading them more, and he would go to uh Westfield comics here in town, and he would pick up some of the new stuff.
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Well, the new stuff they didn't carry mangas, but they carried the American versions here.
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These are standard American size and they're from front to back, and they reprinted mangas, you know.
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Yeah.
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And he got more into those and he started reading more and collecting more, and he amassed this great big collection that I acquired, right?
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And then from there, he his anime love and his interest of Japanese culture, he was about to go to college and he said, I'm gonna learn Japanese.
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Oh wow, you just do that.
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I want to learn Japanese.
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So he went to UW to learn Japanese.
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Wow.
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So cool.
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Learn Japanese.
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And then he said, I'm gonna move to Japan.
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Oh, okay.
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And he after college.
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After college.
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Okay.
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He graduated with a degree, I forgot what his degree was, but he knew how to speak Japanese, moved to Japan, you know, knowing how to speak Japanese, became uh an English to Japanese translator, and he ended up living in Japan for 10 years.
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Oh my god.
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Wow.
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He and he his plan, of course, obviously you know that he comes, he's meeting me in Madison, so he came back.
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But his plan at the time was to never leave Japan.
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He he was gonna stay there.
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Oh.
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So his plan was to stay in Japan and work and live, and that was gonna be the rest of his life.
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So he ended up going all the way to Toyota.
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Oh and he worked at Toyota as a English translator.
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Oh my gosh.
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Yes, and he was there until 2008 when the financial crash happened.
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Okay, and they let go a lot of people, especially some of their translators, and he was starting to figure out that sadly he wasn't gonna be able to stay there anymore.
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Oh no.
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And he had to move back stateside.
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He was very sad about it still.
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And this is like 2026, like 16 years later, you know.
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Man.
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So that's Christopher's story.
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And what I love about Christopher's story the most is that these comics that you're looking at, I've never heard this in my life.
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I mean, very few times, but these comics literally changed his life.
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Completely changed his life.
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He got introduced to a new art form and got introduced to art from a different country, and it completely changed the trajectory of his entire life.
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That's an incredible story.
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Isn't that nuts?
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Yes, it really is.
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And because of these comics, to be so moved and so passionate about the culture and the art form to completely move your whole life to being more immersed in that is so fucking cool.
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Isn't that crazy?
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It's crazy cool.
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I know.
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Good for him.
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One of my favorite stories.
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Oh my gosh.
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Wow.
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Being introduced to comics changes life.
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That's incredible.
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You know, it really is.
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It shows the power of comics.
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Yeah, especially anime, manga, all that, you know.
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So his collection too um uh was a lot of different stuff.
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So he has like here on the screen the the American versions of the manga.
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So they're um and and he actually gave me the idea for what we're gonna talk about in comic history today.
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But he was like, they had these because they didn't think Americans would read manga the way it's intended from back to front or or right to left.
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Sure, I would understand that.
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So they made them uh standard American size, they flipped them around, they made them from front to back to try to sell them to Americans.
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So he had this kind of this there was two parts.
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I met him twice.
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The first part, the first time I met Christopher, I bought the comics, just the regular American comics, and that was great stuff.
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Like I said, you know, he had he had the final issue of Akira, which is very, very rare, very low print run.
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He had all the ghosts in the shells, he had all the battle eletal battle angel Alita, her first appearance here on screen, which was very cool for me.
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He had um just tons and tons of I mean, just complete sets of apple seeds, and you know, he had An America, the magazine about anime, and it was just a super fun collection.
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I loved it.
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And then so you know, he I make him an offer, he says, That sounds great.
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Um oh no, one thing I'm forgetting.
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Why is Christopher selling these?
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Oh, yeah, why if they're so beloved to him, right?
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You know, and he loved Japan Japanese culture so much.
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He was they they were all at his mom's house, oh and they'd just been sitting there.
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Okay, and he was just like, I'm just ready to move on, I'm ready to get the space back.
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Um, he spent a lot of time not on the these comics, but some of the mangas, or he had like CDs or VHS tapes.
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Um he he digitized all of his like vinyl records that he bought in Japan and his CDs, and he was like, I've spent the time digitizing I have everything, so I don't need the physical space taking up everything.
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Oh, okay.
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So when we made the deal on the comics, we get to my car, he helps me load up, we're just talking, and you know, he's just nice, and he's like, I am so happy I found you.
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I was I didn't know what to do because I didn't think anyone would want the Japanese stuff.
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Oh my gosh.
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And I was worried I didn't want to go to half-price books because I knew I was gonna get robbed, and then I found your site, and I was so happy that there was someone who would come to my house, sure, pay me and take this stuff away.
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Yeah.
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And I told him, I was like, and when we were corresponding through email, I was like, I've dabbled in Japanese stuff before.
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I've had some of this stuff, like I've had some Akira's and I've had some of the like the main um bigger ones, but I've never had Apple Seed or you know, some of those titles, so I'm like kind of taking a gamble on some of this.
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Yes.
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He's like, I totally understand.
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And that's cool.
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So we're just chit-chatting, you know, and he's like, Well, you know, and I next I got to um I gotta sell all these mangas and VHS tapes.
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Hello.
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And I was like, Really?
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You have mangas and VHS tapes?
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You know, I would be interested in that.
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He was like, Really?
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You wouldn't want that stuff?
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I was like, Well, I don't know.
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I mean, if you have if you make a list, because he had a lot of lists, he had lists of all the comics.
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Oh, you know, he had and then he was down, he was right to the very organized, very organized very organized.
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Oh wow, good for him.
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So I was like, when you get the list together of the tapes and the mangas, you know, just hit me up.
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He's like, the mangas are all in Japanese, it's in Japanese.
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Yeah.
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I was like, Yeah, that's okay.
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I sell Japanese Spider-Mans all the time, and I sell Japanese Batmans and Spawns, and people love it.
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Really?
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People want that stuff.
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I'm like, yeah, I'll I mean I'll try and if the price is right.
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Yeah, of course.
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So um it was a couple weeks uh and I heard from him and he had a list, and we've had we uh we've sold VHS tapes.
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We had the VHS tape collection last year we sold through and we collect some VHS tapes.
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We do.
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So when I when I had heard VHS tapes too, I was like, oh hell yeah, yeah.
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Great.
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Absolutely.
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Because I bought like Ghost in the Shell on VHS from our Fred uh six treasure chests.
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Oh, yes.
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You know, I gave him 20 bucks flat for that.
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I was like, this is a great deal.
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So, you know, I I knew that there was a market for that stuff.
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Absolutely.
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So I told him, I was like, Yeah, there's like a market for VHS.
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He was like, Who wants VHS?
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Everything's streaming now.
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I was like, it's everyone wants that physical stuff, man.
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It's coming back.
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Really?
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It's coming back.
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You know, you're saying that to someone who's like digitized everything.
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Yeah.
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And he's like, I like having everything in this thumb drive.
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Yeah.
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I was like, yeah, I know.
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Yeah, of course.
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Gen Z and younger, they like having physical stuff because they've grown up digital.
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Exactly.
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He was like, Oh, really?
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Okay.
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So, anyways, I went back, I met him again, looked over the mangas and the VHS tapes.
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Um, I done a little bit of research on the mangas, and that's like I'm way out of my I mean, I I've never had straight mangas before, so that's it's all new territory for me on that stuff.
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Yeah, I think you've had like one.
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Yeah, and the and the tapes, the tapes I'm a little bit more comfortable with.
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Sure.
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And even some of those titles I don't know, Mermaid Forest or Super Deformed or Battle 88.
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I don't know those.
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You know, my my level of knowledge is pretty much the big stuff.
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Yeah, you know, goes in a show or Akira, you know, because we're always getting getting enamored with that stuff because we like it.
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Oh, yes.
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We just don't know it all.
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You know, it's like let us have a lifetime of exploring that.
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Absolutely.
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So in the end, I bought um like eight or nine lawn boxes of the American comics, right?
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Um, two or three lawn boxes of straight Japanese manga, and then uh a couple boxes of VHS as well.
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And it's just been a great collection to to get to look through, and you know, he he really wanted them to go to people who are gonna love them, and I reassured him that I will I I'm gonna tell his story and we're gonna honor Christopher and because the the VHS and the mangas, that part of these comics he bought here in Madison, the manga and the VHS tapes he bought in Japan.
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And shipped them over and brought them back with him when he moved in 2008.
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Wow.
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So those are all from Japan from him at the time.
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Oh, that's so sick, you know.
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And now they're here and they're gonna get, you know, bought up hopefully by our our friends and collectors on on Instagram.
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Yes.
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Um, I posted the story um yesterday, and I'm gonna be posting a video and started selling some of it off, and people are the people who like that stuff are very excited by it, which is cool.
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It'll be even more exciting to know like when you start selling the mangas, like these came straight from Japan, like one owner, like original owner bought them in Japan, and you're the second owner.
00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:16.799
That's so cool.
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Yeah, same with the VHS tapes.
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Yeah, oh absolutely 'cause I have I was working yesterday and I was like, I'm gonna put something on the TV, office TV.
00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:26.559
Yeah.
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I'm like, well, I might as well put in a Kiro here, you know, and I it was it's like those TikToks were like, I'm just gonna put something on while I'm cleaning, and you just end up watching it.
00:17:35.599 --> 00:17:38.799
Yeah, like I cannot focus because this is on what ended up happening.
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I like came to the room and I like didn't leave.
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Yeah.
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I'm just watching the movie, and then I got and then before I know it, I'm like laying on the bed watching the movie.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, we can't do that.
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Yeah.
00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:58.079
So I mean, and I know you knew a lot of this, but I mean, any any takeaways from Christopher's story?
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I just think that um, you know, to reiterate that the power of comics or a manga can do that to someone's life is something to really marvel at.
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Yeah.
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I think that's a very powerful uh thing to see.
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Yeah.
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Like in real life.
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Yeah.
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I I just love that.
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Like art can move you so much that it it can change the course of your life.
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Yeah.
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I think that's so fucking cool.
00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:48.720
And I mean we we've talked about like comics changing lives or like our lives or something, or you know, usually maybe we mean friendships or memories, you know, and in Christopher's case, the comic books literally changed where he lived, what language he learned, and the trajectory of his entire life.
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Yes.
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Incredible.
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I mean, I can't say that anymore.
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You know what?
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Yeah, I don't know how many times can you say incredible.
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What it's honestly one of my favorites, you know.
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I it's it's for me as Chris, living inside Cheddar Comics, it is honestly a gift to get to hear stories like this.
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I mean, I would agree.
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I felt so honored to even just to get to hear this kind of a story.
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Yes.
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I I just absolutely loved it.
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It's one of my favorite ones.
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You know, cool.
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And for Christopher, I mean, imagine you know, when his friend shared him shared with him this anime or manga.
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And imagine telling Christopher at the time, this is gonna change your life, and because of this copy of Akira, you're gonna work for Toyota in Japan.
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I know.
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What?
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Yeah.
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Like the same for me.
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Like I'm like 13 and I'm in an antique store looking at a showcase 22, and here I am, you know, 26 years later with a weekly comic book podcast supporting my family on comic books because I was in that antique shop that day.
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So nuts.
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You know, just the butterfly effect of one one event.
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I'd love to hear more stories like that.
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How comics change people's lives like that, just like yours.
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Yeah.
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And the other Christopher.
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Yeah.
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Honestly.
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Yeah.
00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:25.599
And thanks to Christopher, we have it's a perfect uh lead-in to what he shared with me, which led me to research our next piece, which is a moment in comic history.
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This is a moment in comic history.
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Did you know that when manga first came to America, publishers thought American readers wouldn't read it?
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So they flipped the entire book backwards.
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Literally.
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When manga first started arriving in the United States during the 1980s, publishers were convinced readers would not accept comics that read from right to left.
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And since publishers worried that American readers would find that confusing, they began flopping manga.
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That meant taking every page and mirroring it horizontally.
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The result was some strange side effects.
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Characters who were originally right-handed suddenly became left-handed, clothing details were reversed, vehicles appeared to be driving on the wrong side of the road, and entire pages looked like mires of the original artwork.
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This required costly reworking of the original art, and many manga creators hated the practice because it altered the pages that they had carefully created.
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But for years, American publishers believed it was necessary, and then something changed.
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During the 1990s, anime exploded in popularity.
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Shows like Dragon Ball Z, Sailor Moon, and Pokemon introduced millions of American fans to Japanese storytelling.
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And those fans wanted the real thing.
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And in 2002, publisher Tokyopop made a major gamble and began releasing manga in its original right to left format.
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Instead of changing the books, they marketed them as 100% authentic.
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And many people thought readers.
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Would reject them, and instead, readers love them.
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The experiment was such a success that the industry quickly followed.
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Publishers stopped flipping pages, and American readers learn how to read manga the way it was originally intended.
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Today, manga outsells American comics 5 to 1 in domestic bookstore markets.
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In traditional bookstores like Barnes Noble, manga often accounts for the vast majority of graphic novel sales, prompting retailers to drastically reduce shelf space for Western comics.
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And it's funny when you think about it now, since for years publishers were convinced Americans would never read it as originally intended.
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And that's today's moment in comic book history.
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That was great.
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So Christopher told kind of gave you a little rundown on that?
00:22:44.799 --> 00:22:58.160
Yeah, when I bought that stuff, the first batch, you know, he was like, Yeah, they were in this size because American publishers didn't think that Americans would take to manga the way it was originally intended.
00:22:58.480 --> 00:22:59.920
Wow, they were so wrong.
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Yeah.
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And it seems to be like, you know, because m manga really popped off, I think, after 46, 1948, like post-World War.
00:23:10.319 --> 00:23:10.799
Oh, sure.
00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:23.920
You know, I know you're gonna talk a little bit about that with Godzilla, but it's definitely like per post-World War II and Reconstruction and having that being inspired by the American comic book strips.
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Sure.
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And that running through the 70s and you know, with all the different stuff and well, I'm sure with manga, like starting at post-World War II, that kind of gave them like we need something for ourselves here.
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Sure.
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After all of that.
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Yeah.
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And thus manga was probably born kind of an idea.
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So, but for the importing part of this, you know, for Japanese coming over to the stateside, you know, there was those couple of publishers, like we have some here from Epic and Dark Horse.
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You know, they're like, we'll take a chance on it.
00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:02.960
Right.
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You know, but we don't want to lose our asses here.
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Sure.
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You know, importing it if it's not gonna work.
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Yeah.
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You know, and it reminded me a lot of like um, it's kind of an odd odd little sidebar, but um, like Power Rangers, you know, like I I grew up on Power Rangers as a kid.
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Yeah.
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And you know, that's a Japanese show, and they just filmed the American kids and interspliced it with the Japanese fighting footage.
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Right.
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Um, Stan Lee tried he loved the Japanese Power Rangers, and he actually tried to get it over stateside like all through the 80s.
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Really?
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And never no one would do it.
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Everyone, everyone's just always like, they're not, we're not, they're not gonna like it.
00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:51.599
Huh.
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You know, like it's just too much of a culture shock for Americans.
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We're they're not gonna take to it.
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Wow.
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You know, and when it finally did, and I mean they didn't, you know, obviously they they reshot you know the American kids part, and that maybe was a little different than what Stan was trying to do.
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You know, but it obviously went great.
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Yeah, you know.
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I don't know what this like hesitation is, like where that comes from from the publishers.
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Like, I don't know if they're gonna like it or not.
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We gotta do it.
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Executives, publishers.
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Like maybe.
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Yeah, why don't you just give it how it comes and they'll just adapt to it.
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That's what I always say.
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Give it how it comes.
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It's a common phrase everyone uses.
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Everybody keeps saying that to me.
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You know what I mean.
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Somebody just said that to me earlier, and I was like, I don't know if I can give it how it comes.
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I don't know how to do that.
00:25:50.640 --> 00:25:54.720
Yeah, that's what I would have said to those guys.
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Get out.
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Get out of here.
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You're welcome.
00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:13.599
But a lot of it had to do with and we we had talked about it in the first segment, but Akira, the the animated movie, had a huge impact and a real crossing.
00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:25.279
That one really like bridged the divide between the Japanese language and the art form, and there's kind of like before Akira and after Akira for Americans.
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Interesting.
00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:26.400
Okay.
00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:41.599
Because when the movie comes here and it's uh dubbed in English and it's a huge success, then it starts a wave after that, you know, and everything's pretty much after that for things coming here.
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:43.440
Like, would that be like Sailor Moon?
00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:51.599
Probably Sailor Moon, Dragon Ball Z Dragon Ball Z, uh Ghosts in the Shell, another anime movie that really crossed over.
00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:52.000
Yeah.
00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:55.359
And there's just these m the many different properties.
00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:57.920
I wonder if Studio Ghibli's a part of that then.
00:26:58.160 --> 00:26:59.440
Yeah, Studio Ghibli.
00:26:59.599 --> 00:26:59.759
Yeah.
00:26:59.920 --> 00:27:04.160
So like there's just a lot of it after that from what I was reading today.
00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:05.039
Oh, interesting.
00:27:05.599 --> 00:27:07.039
That bridge, that divide.
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Because of Icura.
00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:08.799
Yeah.
00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:09.279
Huh.
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Which is so cool.
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And I mean it's because it's a it's a it's a masterpiece.
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I mean it is.
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If anyone's ever seen behind the scenes of them, like animating it, you know, like the cityscapes, it's a and it's a three-panel city, and every window on every building is hand painted, like illuminated, hand painted.
00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:34.640
I mean, it's a masterwork of you know, cinema and art.
00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:39.920
Yeah, you know, so no wonder that's the one that blows through because it's so incredible.
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:40.319
Right.
00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:41.680
Yes, uh a hundred percent.
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:46.720
I could be wrong about the details, and if I am, give me, give me, show me some fucking grace.
00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:47.680
Come on down.
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:59.680
So, um, but it kind of starts a chain of stuff that crosses over, and then I think once you get to the late 90s, you know, and then it's Power Rangers?
00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:00.720
No, Pokemon.
00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:01.759
Oh, Pokemon Pokemon.
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Pokemon, I think it's like what 95, 97, I forgot.
00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:05.200
Yeah.
00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:06.880
I'm not into Pokemon, so I don't know.
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:07.599
Yeah, sure.
00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:17.599
But then that starts, and then that's why Tokyopop, the publisher in 2002, says, like, okay, we're gonna we can sell just manga now.
00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:19.119
Oh like straight authentic.
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:21.119
That didn't come until 2002.
00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:21.839
Yes.
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:22.480
Oh.
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:23.119
Yep.
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I thought it had been here forever, honestly.
00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:29.119
So it was kind of like spotty.
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:32.640
You know, there's some store it would depend on the bookstore.
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:39.039
Oh so from what I read today, which was really fascinating, was that Walden books, remember them?
00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:39.680
Oh, sure.
00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:48.960
Or compared to like what we would know now, like Barnes and Noble or whatever, every bookstore had a different sales record of what worked and what didn't work.
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:53.839
So some stores experimented with the form with manga, right?
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And they would sell a left-to-right manga, and right next to it, they would sell a right to left manga.
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:02.480
Like Neon Genesis.
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Yeah, Neon Genesis, they published the exact same thing, but you know, one in its original format and one in an American format, and they would test who would sell better.
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And some stores it would be the Japanese version, would sell better, like 60, 65, 35 or something.
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:22.640
Okay.
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And then there's other stores where the American version would sell better.
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:26.720
Oh.
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So it would be it would be dependent on their client base and their local markets.
00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:35.039
Oh my god.
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:52.240
So it was kind of spotty all the way through to see what would sell or what would not, and it's just kind of like a big testing lab for like decades of what will work and what won't work for the American appetite for this kind of art form.
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:54.880
Until 2002, when they were just like, let's just do it.
00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:57.920
Well, it's not, it's I wouldn't I wouldn't say it's like a switch.
00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:06.960
Oh but Tokyopop takes a gamble and saying, like, we're going one way, and from that point on it changes.
00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:13.519
Oh, and we're doing hits right to left, authentic manga the way it was supposed to be.
00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:13.920
Okay.
00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:15.599
It was the way it was intended to be.
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Sure.
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Because the other way was so costly.
00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:21.119
I mean, it was like direction, character.
00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:30.240
I mean, when you think about if you're reading a comic, you know, and you're going this way, left to right, and it, you know, Kirby's actions are all going this way.
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:31.440
Yeah, of course.
00:30:31.680 --> 00:30:46.640
You know, so if you have to like flip that around, or you have to change directions, or you have to change the some of the words, not just the bubbles, but some of the action words, like their version of like BAM and pow.
00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:47.519
Sure.
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:54.319
They would have to change that too, and it would, you know, sometimes that's over an arm, or it's very costly to it.
00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:58.720
Wasn't simply because what I th I didn't think was a big deal is like you just flip it around.
00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:00.000
Right, that's what I would think.
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:02.000
You gotta redraw some of it.
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:03.920
You have to like redo some of it.
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:05.279
It's not straight like that.
00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:05.759
Wow.
00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:06.319
You know what I mean?
00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:06.960
Yeah, of course.
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:09.119
So it's very costly to do it that way.
00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:09.599
Sure.
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:17.680
It's obviously way easier just to take it in and slap Tokyo Pop on it and definitely sell it, but they took a gamble.
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:21.839
And then what's crazy now, there's a great video.
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:25.039
The the best video you can find is by Matt.
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:25.839
Oh, yes.
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:44.400
You know, and Matt has the best video um I watched a year or two ago about how the manga, like a pie chart of publishers, like graphic novel comic publishers, and the pie chart is like sixty, fifty percent, sixty percent is manga sales.
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:48.240
And DC and Marvel are peanuts compared to them.
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:49.200
Incredible.
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:50.640
You know, you never think about that.
00:31:50.880 --> 00:32:03.680
Well, no, and I was thinking like when um I was first exposed really to manga and the like how large it was, and now thinking about that percentage was at Wizard World when I worked there.
00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:04.799
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:06.799
Yeah, when we worked there years ago one time.
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:15.440
Yeah, and the booth that we worked at, I couldn't believe the amount of manga titles that were there.
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:15.839
Yes.
00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:19.200
I'm like, this is all at the time I called it manga.
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:21.119
Yeah, it's manga, I know.
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:25.839
Um and they had tons of it and they were all different titles.
00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:29.039
Yep, and people were crazy about it.
00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:29.680
Absolutely.
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:32.319
I couldn't get out of the way fast enough, honestly.
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:33.039
Yep.
00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:43.039
And what's cool too is that you know, now way down the pipe, you know, so we've had 25 years of it being in America the way it's supposed to be.
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:50.240
It was there before, but I'm just saying, like, there's a real turn in the early 2000s for for publishing.
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:56.480
And now, like if you look at the I think One Piece is maybe 25 years old.
00:32:56.559 --> 00:32:57.839
I could be wrong, I'm gonna be wrong.
00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:02.240
I'm not researched enough in it, so I don't crucify me on that.
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:04.799
One piece is whatever, like 20, 25 years old.
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:10.160
And it has almost sold in the in that short amount of time.
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:18.799
The lifetime sales, it's almost caught up to Superman or Batman, who have been around since 38 and 39 for 80 years.
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:23.359
And One Piece is almost caught up to Batman and Superman.
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:23.759
Wow.
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:29.839
I mean, that's how huge it is now, you know.
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:45.599
So all that work over the decades of all that importing from the the the movies and the TV shows and the books and everything, and the theory that I've heard like, why does manga outsell comic American comics?
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:46.400
Yeah, why?
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:49.279
One theory I've heard, and it was from this one guy on TikTok.
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:51.119
I don't know, I should have saved it.
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:53.519
Um, and it's his take, it's not mine.
00:33:54.000 --> 00:34:01.920
His theory is that it's a uniform, singular vision of one creator from front to back.
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:07.599
It's a single creative vision of one person most of the time.
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:12.719
It doesn't change hands, it doesn't like a Batman title, you might like.
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:13.039
Sure.
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:20.159
It has like absolute Batman, for example, is working because it's a singular vision of Snyder and Nick Dragato.
00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:23.199
Oh I might be pronouncing that wrong, but it's their vision.
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:23.760
Okay.
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:27.920
And they're doing it at month in, month out, and it's the same vision.
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.239
But a lot of titles would switch hands.
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:30.639
Yes.
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:38.880
Scott Steiner's gotta leave, Matt Fraction comes in, and Dragado's gotta leave, and Capulo comes in or whoever, and it switches hands and it changes.
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:40.079
So it changes the vibe.
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:40.719
You know what I mean?
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:41.199
Yeah, sure.
00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:49.280
And like one piece has been written all these years and drawn by the one guy who created it.
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:50.159
Wow.
00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:51.519
The entire time.
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:55.280
So you get that singular voice, that singular vision.
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:56.000
Sure.
00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:59.199
That is, I think, why the he that's the theory.
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:02.800
That's an interesting theory because you could apply that to books as well.
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:07.360
You know, obviously there's Tolkien and why, you know, his universe is so huge.
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:11.039
He wrote everything and drew pieces for it.
00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:11.519
Yep.
00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:18.639
You could apply that also and why it's so beloved, because that vibration stays the same.
00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:19.039
Yep.
00:35:19.199 --> 00:35:24.480
And you get to be immersed, like it's recognizable and it's not different, yeah.
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:28.320
And you don't have to worry about it going in a different direction or something like that.
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:29.119
Definitely.
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:33.360
And you get to just come back and be in the world that you know and love.
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:39.039
So that makes sense of why One Piece would be so successful, I would think.
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:40.480
And maybe Dragon Ball Z too.
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:41.199
All of them.
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:41.440
Yeah.
00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:42.239
They're all like that.
00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:42.960
Yeah, sure.
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:52.079
So it was cool, thanks to the collection, to dip my toe in it, and I figured out I was like, oh my god, this is like so deep.
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:59.920
It was this was one of the hardest comic book history segments I've had to do because I was just like, it's so deep.
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:03.679
I have to find like a really narrow section here.
00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:04.320
Yeah.
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:09.760
And I tried to keep it tied to Christopher's because this is what he brought over and what he told me and stuff.
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:13.840
And it was like, you know, putting your toe in the ocean.
00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:15.199
Yeah, so dense.
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:17.920
It's just so much you could go anywhere with it, you know.
00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:19.599
That's so interesting, though.
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:20.800
Yes, absolutely.
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:22.000
Never think that.
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:22.639
No.
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:27.840
But there's such a long, dense history involved in this one art form.
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:28.719
Absolutely.
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:29.440
That's so cool.
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:31.679
And that's today's moment in comic book history.
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:35.280
This is Collector's Corner with Mr.
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:35.760
and Mrs.
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:36.400
Cheddar.
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:42.320
So we have our theme for today's show, you know, which luckily fits into our interests.
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:47.760
It wasn't like, you know, um, like an Egyptian comic collection.
00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:48.239
Yeah.
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:50.559
You know, like, oh, I don't have any Egyptian comics.
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:53.599
This is really cool, but I don't know where to start.
00:36:53.920 --> 00:37:02.239
You know, it actually, every this one worked with one of our themed ideas where we were getting to Collector's Corner, and I was like, oh, we have Japanese stuff.
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:03.440
We love Japanese stuff.
00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:04.719
Yeah, we certainly do.
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:11.280
Um, and I have my stuff I'm gonna talk about, but you have um some Godzilla pieces here.
00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:15.599
And what I want to bring up too, just there he is, there's Godzilla number one.
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:16.880
That's from the Mrs.
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:17.599
Cheddar Vault.
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:20.159
King of Godzilla too.
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:28.960
Um we've never really talked about it as a couple, but we got into Godzilla together over our relationship.
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:32.079
Did you like Godzilla before we got together?
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:32.800
Yes.
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:33.519
You did?
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:34.400
Oh yeah.
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:36.320
Oh I've always loved Godzilla.
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:37.039
Oh, I didn't know that.
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:38.239
I had to think about it.
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:40.159
You're like upset.
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:41.760
I thought it was our thing.
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:43.280
Well, it is our thing.
00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:44.320
No, it's not.
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:45.199
You liked him before.
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:54.079
Well, yeah, but coming together obviously blossomed that or deepened that love even more.
00:37:54.960 --> 00:38:00.159
But no, I mean I remember watching Godzilla movies when I was like six years old.
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:00.639
Really?
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:05.760
Yeah, it's like the one one of very few memories I have with my dad.
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:06.159
Oh.
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:15.280
And being sick on the couch, home from school, for some reason these old Godzilla films are being played, and he's sitting there with me, and he doesn't know.
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:22.559
I I don't he didn't know anything about them, but he just, you know, like me, he was interested in filmmaking and he loved monsters.
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:23.519
Very cool.
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:28.880
So I have that, and then it just, you know, it the love of monsters always stayed with me.
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:29.440
Sure.
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:33.920
And then when we got together, it really did like deepen.
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:34.559
Sure.
00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:37.760
And you know, my knowledge just kind of grew from there.
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:38.559
Very cool.
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:39.039
Yeah.
00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:42.480
So when you got me this one, I was very happy.
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:43.679
There you go.
00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:45.440
You're a Godzilla out today.
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:49.440
If if you're listening and you're not watching, she's got her Godzilla t-shirt on.
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:56.320
She has her Godzilla action figures out, and she has her Godzilla King of the Monsters number one comic book.
00:38:56.559 --> 00:38:57.039
I sure do.
00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:59.599
I have this little Godzilla, he sits on my nightstand.
00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:00.639
That's how much I love it.
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:02.559
I've considered getting a Godzilla tattoo.
00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:03.440
Oh boy.
00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:04.639
Oh boy.
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:07.519
That's not happening, but it was on my list for a while.
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:13.840
Godzilla number one from 1977, which of course came about.
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:14.800
Why?
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:16.159
Stanley.
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:29.679
Stanley loved Kaiju Japanese kaiju films, and he wanted to adapt, I think, one of the movies, but Toho was like, no, but we'll do a licensed deal.
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:32.800
So through Stan, he set up a licensing deal for a year.
00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:39.280
So the idea for Godzilla was that it would be essentially kind of like an idea of a travel log.
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:47.360
He would Godzilla would travel like across the US because this was made for Silver Age kids they were trying to target.
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:58.719
And so they wanted to attract Americans to read it and watch Godzilla go through like his own little adventure through through America.
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:06.400
Um, they didn't have the licenses for the other monsters or anything like that, so they had to come up with their own monsters to kind of battle Godzilla.
00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:13.199
Marvel had the creative freedom to do whatever they wanted because they Toho really didn't monitor anything.
00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:18.000
So they were able to kind of just inject their own, obviously, Marvel characters.
00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:25.280
And I think the last issue is Godzilla battling the Avengers and some other big players too, but not the Hulk.
00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:29.280
Even though everybody wanted him to battle the Hulk for some reason, they wouldn't do it.
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:30.000
Weird.
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:30.480
Yeah.
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:33.760
So that's kind of a little background on Godzilla 1.
00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:34.880
I didn't know any of that.
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:35.599
I don't know.
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:37.199
I didn't know shit.
00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:40.320
Can't know it all.
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:41.039
No, of course.
00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:42.239
Discovery's the best part.
00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:42.960
Yeah.
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:44.239
So it was very cool.
00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:45.599
Do you want the other issues?
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:46.800
Two through twenty-four?
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:50.320
Um well, there is an omnibus.
00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:51.280
Oh my god.
00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:54.960
Which apparently was very like highly requested.
00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:55.840
Was it really?
00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:56.400
Yes.
00:40:56.639 --> 00:40:56.880
Wow.
00:40:57.039 --> 00:40:58.400
People wanted this.
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:01.519
Um, and they made an omnibus.
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:04.719
I can't remember when, but it did come out and it was very successful.
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:05.519
That's cool.
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:09.519
We've had the well, I've had the two through twenty-four once or twice.
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:10.159
Okay.
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:12.239
And it's always sold right away.
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:13.119
Yeah, I bet.
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:15.440
And I just saw I forgot who had it on Instagram.
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:17.360
Somebody else just had it and it was gone in a day.
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:18.000
Yeah, I bet.
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:20.000
And it's just kind of like it's very beloved.
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:33.199
Yeah, I mean, he's got the you know, if you love universal monsters or you love slashers, or you know, that kind of intense collecting.
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:46.719
You know, there's those certain characters, or even with compo characters we've talked about over the years, like, you know, moon night people are crazy for them, or Harley girls, or you know, Godzilla guys are they want it.
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:47.119
Yep.
00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:50.320
I have a few Godzilla people whenever I get that stuff.
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:50.880
Oh really?
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:51.920
Oh, he's always gone.
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:52.159
Oh.
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:55.920
When we had that monster magazine collection, you know, a couple of those.
00:41:56.079 --> 00:41:56.320
Oh, sure.
00:41:57.039 --> 00:41:58.480
Show me the Godzilla ones.
00:41:58.639 --> 00:41:58.880
Right.
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:05.760
You know, you got kind of a ranking of which monsters or kaiju were the big one, and Godzilla's always up there.
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:06.559
That's so cool.
00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:08.480
I want the Frankenstein, I want Godzilla.
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:09.199
Yeah, sure.
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:10.559
Nobody wanted the mummy.
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:11.119
Oh.
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:13.679
No one wanted Porsche Karloff's mummy.
00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:14.400
Oh yeah.
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:16.559
That's yeah, that's Dracula.
00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:25.920
I want Well, what's cool is that this writer uh not the writer, the um the artist who dro drew this cover and drew all of them, actually.
00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:37.280
He said he whenever people like bring him comics to sign or did, uh, he would always say that Godzilla was his favorite to draw.
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:37.920
Yeah.
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:38.719
That's cool.
00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:40.880
Like out of all the monsters that was his.
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:41.519
That's cool.
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:45.199
And you'd see like little sketches and stuff, and I'm like, oh my god, this looks awesome.
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:45.760
Yeah.
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:46.639
And yeah.
00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:47.599
That's really cool.
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:48.320
Herb.
00:42:48.639 --> 00:42:50.719
He drew um Hawk 181.
00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:51.519
Oh, he did?
00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:52.000
Yeah.
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:52.400
Oh.
00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:56.480
I don't remember if he did the cover or if he did the interior, but that's why I know Herb Trump.
00:42:56.719 --> 00:42:57.199
Oh, okay.
00:42:57.360 --> 00:42:57.519
Yeah.
00:42:57.679 --> 00:42:58.960
So well he drew this too.
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:00.960
An iconic cover, I'd say.
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:03.920
I don't know if I think an iconic cover.
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:11.840
It's funny about this one though, because do you do you know where he is?
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:13.280
Where like the starts?
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:25.920
He starts in Alaska and he goes, he's going after the Alaskan pipeline, and Shield's gotta come in, and they set up like a Godzilla squad to take it down.
00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:30.400
77 goofy shit.
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:31.119
That's cool.
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:31.679
Yeah.
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:34.239
Who's your favorite god after Godzilla?
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:37.440
Who's your favorite kaiju in Godzilla's universe?
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:38.639
Probably Mothra.
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:39.440
Mothra.
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:40.719
Mothra.
00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:42.320
Just because I like her story.
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:43.360
Mecca Godzilla.
00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:45.920
We've seen so many of those movies and I can never remember.
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:47.280
We've seen almost all of them.
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:47.519
Yeah.
00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:49.519
And I can never remember their names.
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:51.280
No, I can't Rodan?
00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:53.039
Yeah, there's Rodan.
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:53.920
There's Rodan.
00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:54.800
Godorah.
00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:55.519
Ghidorah.
00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:56.800
Those are the big the main ones.
00:43:57.039 --> 00:43:57.199
Yeah.
00:43:57.440 --> 00:43:57.599
Yeah.
00:43:57.760 --> 00:43:58.000
Yeah.
00:43:58.239 --> 00:43:59.199
Baby Godzilla.
00:43:59.440 --> 00:43:59.679
Oh.
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:00.320
Sure.
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:01.280
Son of Godzilla.
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:02.639
Son of Godzilla.
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:03.039
Yeah.
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:03.840
Yeah.
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:05.599
What's wrong with him?
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:06.639
He's fine.
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:07.599
He's so cute.
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:08.880
Yeah, he's cute.
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:10.400
This movie's boring, though.
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:11.920
This movie sucks ass.
00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:13.519
That's what it is.
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:15.679
Blows ass.
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:16.719
Oh no.
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:20.079
Did you, when you were a little kid, you saw the Matthew Broderick one in theaters?
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:21.679
Oh yeah.
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:24.800
Oh, I fucking oh I ate that shit up so much.
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:32.000
Well, the opening scene, first of all, starts out on like a like a food cargo ship.
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:36.880
And there's all these guys, and they're like, oh my god, there's something in the water.
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:45.039
You know, and he just he just tears this boat apart because there's fish in there and he wants those fish to eat.
00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:52.480
And then, you know, introduce Matthew Broderick.
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:52.800
Okay.
00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:54.800
And then he goes to New York.
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:55.840
That sucks.
00:44:56.639 --> 00:44:58.480
And then there's all those baby Godzilla.
00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:00.159
Remember that in Madison Square Garden?
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:01.440
I don't remember that.
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:02.960
They all hatch in there.
00:45:03.119 --> 00:45:03.840
I do not remember that.
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:05.440
And then they gotta run out.
00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:13.360
And then all these helicopters come and they have to like annihilate Madison Square Garden to take out all the Godzillas.
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:14.800
And then she's very angry.
00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:16.880
But yeah, I watched it a lot on BHS.
00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:17.840
Yikes.
00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:19.840
I loved it.
00:45:20.079 --> 00:45:22.639
I fucking love that shit so hard.
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:23.760
That's cool.
00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:24.639
Yeah.
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:37.760
One of the only I over the years as Cheddar, I did three uh lawn form YouTube videos when I was testing how to do it, and Godzilla versus Barkley was one of the three I did a deep dive on.
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That's right.
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That's Dark Horse, right?
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I think so, yeah.
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Yeah.
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And it was great.
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It's Godzilla Slam Dungan.
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It's great.
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Gotzel some Nikes.
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That's right.
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Well, very cool.
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Thank you for sharing that.
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Okay, Majan.
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What do you got?
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So there's a lot of this episode, a lot of importing from Japan.
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But what about America exporting to Japan?
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Ooh, yes.
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What about that?
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Ooh, a little flip, flippy flip.
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We don't just take in their stuff.
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They take our stuff too.
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They sure do.
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Talk about that.
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So I got a little a little section in my um personal collection of um Japanese comics that are Marvel and DC.
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Well, and Spawn.
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Um, and I just wanted to, it's more of a I don't really know what to say about them, but it's only an interest that I've gotten from doing cheddar comics because I would get some Japanese comics, and I was like, wow, what are these?
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It's so cool.
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You know, you got the when they got spawn, spawn number one in Japan, uh, by Dengeki American Comics.
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This is in like '97.
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And they what I love about them too is that they would take they just like know exactly how to take the art from us and make it use it better and make it better.
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Because this is the cover on this one, if you're watching the video, um, or if you're I'm sorry, if you're not watching the video, is this is the interior poster from spawn number one.
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Oh the American version.
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And they took the interior poster and made it the cover on their one, which is kind of way cooler.
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It's way cooler, no offense.
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Yeah, I mean I love spawn number one, but it m this also makes a great cover too.
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You know, and you've got the OB strip and all that, and then like for another spawn one, I've got this one.
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This is number 10.
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This is a gold one with the OB strip.
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This was only this cover art and all of this stuff was uh Japan only artwork.
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Uh this is one that they did or took themselves and did, got nice gold foil and everything.
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But they also did it for all kinds of stuff.
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You know, they would do we've had these, how many times have we had these?
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Oh Marvel X's.
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I get these all the time from Japan.
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They're sick, or I mean a few times a year, you know, and they would just repurpose or resell.
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Like this one has this one has um Amazing Spider-Man 300, Amazing Fantasy 15, um, and two of X-Men like first Kitty Pride and First Dazzler.
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Wow.
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So they would just take it and just reprint it.
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You know, and add their little flares.
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It's all in Japanese, obviously.
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Nice.
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And they would add their little flares to it with the Obi-Strip or whatever inside.
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And why is their flare always the like the best?
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Their what?
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Their flare.
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I don't know.
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It's always so stunning.
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Yeah.
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Like when you would see those um those like movie tickets.
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Yeah.
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Japanese movie tickets.
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They just they're so cool.
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They just know what to do with the art.
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Yeah.
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In a way that makes it unique.
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We have opportunities missed for us.
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Yeah, I agree.
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So, um, I mean, what I love about these and why I collect them, obviously, I collect the ones that I'm the most interested in, like with my characters, you know, X-Men, Spider-Man, Batman, Spawn.
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But it's just so cool to see the American art and the American comics translated, you know, not in literal like language, but translated through the eyes of Japanese culture, you know, and how they use McFarland's artwork, or you know, some of my favorites are my out of all the X-Men's.
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So this is them um reprinting the Jim Lee X-Men run.
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Um, and just how they they took a single drawing of Wolverine and made this whole image the cover.
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Yeah, it's incredible.
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You know, we would never do this.
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No, you know, in the first few issues we were all like that.
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So it'd be Cyclops or it'd be Gambit or whoever, you know.
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So just this close up on that's how great Jim's X-Men work is, is that you can zoom in on it all the way up to his nose, pretty much.
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Yeah.
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And it's an incredible piece.
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They clearly love Jim Lee's art.
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Yeah, so these ones are really cool.
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This is one of my newer ones.
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I haven't really picked up a lot this year, but this is one of the ones I got.
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It's uh Batman 1989, the Japanese version of Batman 89.
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So they got this in there and they imported it, and they got that nice OB strip with that great Batman symbol on it.
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Yeah, it looks awesome.
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It's just so cool, obviously with Keaton and Nicholson.
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Because the American version is the same cover, right?
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Exactly.
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Yeah, okay.
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They just literally it's just this little Japanese added there.
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Okay.
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The official adaptation of the Warner Brothers motion picture.
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I've seen it look so with the Obi-strap and that big batsical.
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Hey guys, sorry, it is Chris the editor in the editing suite here discovering that for some reason our microphones stopped recording at about the hour mark.
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Luckily, we got through almost all of the collector corner here, uh, but I wasn't able to record any audio for the last section, so sorry about that.
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But we just want to thank you so much for listening to this week's stories.
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