Enchanted World Creators Amy Zerner and Monte Farber

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What happens in the sky affects life down here on Earth.
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The Celestial Compass shows you how and guides your way
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with astrology you can use from professional astrologer Kathy Beeal.
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Every episode features her lighthearted, practical forecasts and navigational tips,
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blended with humor, optimism, and a love of patterns, symbolism,
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and pop culture references. Kathy translates technicalities into concepts that
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apply to real life. You'll learn how the current moment
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ties to where we've been, from the recent past to
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cycles that last happened years ago, and get a look
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at where we're heading, and much more. From special topics
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to special guests, The Celestial Compass enlightening, entertaining, and empowering.
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Here's your host, Kathy Beale.
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Greeting these Earthlings. This is Kathy Beale of Empowerment, Unlimited
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dot net and the Professional Aquarian YouTube channel beaming in
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early in April twenty twenty six, and I want to
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talk a little bit about what's going on this month
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astrologically before I bring on our guests. This is a
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month when everything that has been stuck gets unstuck, where
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things that have already been building really do start to
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catch fire. There is going to be a pile up.
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There's already a concentration of bodies and the sign of Aries.
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And this week Mars, the ruler of Arees, joins the
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fray and we will have we have Saturday Neptune already there.
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They met at the end of February. The sun is there,
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bunch of dwarf planets are their iron eiris. There's somebody else.
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It will come to me. And when when Mars gets there,
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you're going to find your own energy level really really
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really ramping up. He will make a contact with Neptune,
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which will have us all being spiritual warriors or highly
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creative or maybe somewhat delusional in our use of power
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and energy, all our possibilities, and possibly simultaneously next week
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Mercury enters the sign as well, and so then we
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have our talk. The way we're expressing ourselves, the way
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we're doing things, all of them in this highly reactive,
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unpremeditated just do it energy. So know that it's important
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to kind of monitor the direction that you're heading, because
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logical thought isn't guiding what's going on right now where
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the brain may implement things, but energy is coming up
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in US and propelling us forward. And the really really
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big day for this is April seventeenth, the area's new moon,
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which is toward the end of the sign. It's going
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to be pumping up the populace in the United States,
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pumping up the end of the boomer generation in a
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huge way. Just notice where you will find yourself running forward.
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And this is an activation point from the solar eclipse
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that we had in the middle of February, which shot
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us into very very different possibilities with a huge catalytic
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and the catalytic force behind that is on the brink
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of changing signs. So on the twenty fifth of April, Uranus,
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the cosmic agent of unexpected change, volatile change, epiphanies, awakenings, liberation,
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moves into the sign of Gemini, which he visited briefly
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last July, into the fall for the first time since
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the thirties and forties. So this is going to at
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this point have all of the outer planets from Saturn
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on dancing together in fire and air, setting up a
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big rewiring of all of us and our realities. When
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Jupiter also moves into fire in July, so you've got
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a taste of what's coming last summer, and you will
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find the pace really really quickening from the seventeenth of
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April on, actually possibly even from the middle of this
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week on. So if you've been bored, you won't be
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Know that everybody is going to be running around as
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if they've got energy drinks coursing through their veins, or
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they're running around on speed or amphetamines. Hot heads will
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be prevalent. Yours doesn't have to be. You may simply
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be phenomenally brave, phenomenally daring. What's there to lose, Go
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ahead and try attempt burst forward. And we're all being
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given our marching orders pretty much on a daily basis,
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from energy within us, from Neptune in areas within us,
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and then we go make it happen. Follow your own energy,
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and if you're living in a sense of an integrity,
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you'll be fine. Just know that a lot of other
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people out there are going to be waking up and
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the level of anger could be kind of high. Yeah,
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clear that we have very magical guests today. I am
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delighted to welcome back Amy Zerner and Monty Farber. Okay,
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we need to flip there. We go from beaming in
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from their enchanted world. They are the creators of more
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than fifty books and oracles, and Amy specializes on the
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art end of it. Monty handles a little bit more
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of the words end of it. There are magical alchemy
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and welcome back. I'm so glad you're here.
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Thank you. Well, that was a great description of the
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astrology energy.
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That really was.
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You know. I'm an aries, so I'm very aware of
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what I'm feeling, and to me, it's you know, I
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feel a slow down. It's funny because all the descriptions
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of areas that you said I normally feel. Now I
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feel a little more patient. I think it's because of
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Saturn and Neptune. Right, but I have observed, you know,
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that anger. How can you not see it? The devisiveness
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is escalated just the last couple of days, it seems
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even more people have to vent and rage and mostly unproductively. Right.
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Amy has a stelium and areas, she has the sun,
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Mars and mercury.
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But starting and you make things happen, Yes she does.
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And I'm used to, you know, just doing it, just
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doing it, and I always, you know, want other people
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are doing. I guess I'll get my wish I've had.
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I've had some people with aries complaining to me that
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they feel like their house found and they want to
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just fall on the floor. So I suppose they're would
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be there could be kind of like scorched earth going
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on with it. I do remember last summer when we
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had a grand grand fire trying it created that in
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my chart and I just wanted to lie on the ground.
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It's like I was completely burned out. So I should
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have mentioned that some people could be experiencing utter burnout.
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But if you listen to, if you get quiet and
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listen to what the speaking in your actual cells is,
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you'll know what to do.
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Yeah, well, what do you think the spiritual warrior is?
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Because I like that idea. What does it mean to you?
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Oh? Actually, I've cleared this this year, the rise of
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the spiritual Warrior. I have an article at Home Times
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to that effect, and that is people standing up doing
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things for a greater purpose, having something coming through them,
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saying this is your mission, this is what you're doing.
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And you know with an Aria's moon, a lot of
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Aris moons can four. Like I say, those are the
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people that will run into a burning building, or they'll
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kick your teeth out if they don't like what you're saying.
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I see what's happening now is war with what the
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spiritual warrior part. It's recognizing what your beliefs are and
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living by them and fighting for them and implementing them.
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Would you agree with now?
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We've never worked harder. I mean, we're we work full
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out and then go to.
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Sleep because all our work is spiritually based. But I
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do think I agree, and that coming at things from
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a higher perspective instead of being petty or you know,
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arguing about because this is a big shift like you're described.
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So it's not the same old, same old. It's Monty's
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been writing a lot about how it's dissolving of structures
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that have existed for and because we're involved in different businesses.
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I see it in the fashion world. I see it
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in the art world, I say it, and publishing, you know,
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so the way things have been set up are crumbling
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making way for new, which is the area's energy. But
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it's always uncomfortable, right when you're kind of attached to
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the way things have been, Like everybody in the world,
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you know, you're brought up.
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This is certain institutions or certain containers, and I know
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from my training as a lawyer, I would say seventy
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percent of what I was taught has gone out the window,
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and we're seeing all kinds of institutions just leaving in
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the one sense I sit in and go, how can
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this be? Like CBS news radio gone it's been around
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since and the Forest Service under attack that Teddy Roosevelt founded,
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and you can have a moment of outrage about it,
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but then you have to also stop and say, something
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else is coming.
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Yeah, Well, it's good to be reminded of how tenuous
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everything is and that you don't have all the time
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in the world. And I think that's one of the
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unfortunate aspects of the Saturn Neptune conjunction. It is showing
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us limits and the idealization of limits and the limits
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of idealization, and I always see it going back and
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forth like a ping pong wole.
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Well, also, I mean the entertainment business and where it's
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been set up, Oh my god, totally dissolving. So I mean,
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I think we come to an acceptance that things are
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changing in a huge way and to try to hold
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on to it it's kind of useless. And like you said,
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when uronics goes into Gemini. I mean, the whole AI
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technology thing is just going to be force multiplied.
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I think, yes, well, my book will be presented at
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that point. That's when it's going to be going to
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the various publishers and trying to get a bidding war going.
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Well, I think we're when you're spiritual and creative, you're
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used to riding the waves, and when you're entrepreneurial as well.
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By the way, I didn't know you were a lawyer.
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I didn't know that either. That's cool, but.
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I've only recently pulled out of practicing. Oh no, I've
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been doing that for a Yeah, that's why my stuff
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is still grounded, because I know the way the world
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was supposed to work.
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Yeah, that's important. I mean, great skills to have. Mind,
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it feels like your channels long from my past lifetime
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because it does all our legal work. But he kind
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of knows intuitively.
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Yes, I was even able to deal with the copyright office,
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which is oh my god. It's like dealing with the
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man behind the Curtain and the Wizard of Oz.
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I consider that one of the easier things. But okay,
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I can see how that would be a daunting thing.
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It's not maritime law, that's for sure.
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Mm hmmm.
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We'll get back, get back at the astrological goings on.
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But let's talk about your latest project, the old book.
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Well, it's all about your cosmic blueprint, which is doing
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your own personal chart. Here it is, it's very beautiful.
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I illustrated it. Montes spent five years writing it. It's
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a three hundred change book. But I don't think there's
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another book like it. You know, when we started studying
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the way back, I started studying nineteen seventy one, you know,
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privately with a teacher, and we had that Llewellyn book
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what was it.
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Called adz Harscope Delineator from the nineteen from.
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The nineteen thirties, I think, so it was all very
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old fashioned.
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Yeah, sure, what do you want to do, little girl?
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Do you want to be a teacher or a nurse
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or a mommy homemaker?
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Right? So, anyhow, this makes it's Monty's keyword technique, and
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it teaches.
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Anyone who has the interest. It takes them from not
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knowing astrology at all to being able to read anyone's
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chart in a way that gives actual beneficial vice that
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might help somebody live their life. Better.
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It makes it fun because it teaches it, and a pizza.
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At the beginning, you know, just to help people get
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in there and sell some pizzas. And I'm not a influencer.
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You do have other astrology books out, but this one
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is more comprehensive, right, it's more of an encyclopedia, or.
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Well it's not really. It's really designed to take you
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on a journey to learn astrology. So you know, I
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did do Karma Cards came out in nineteen eighty eight
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and that's sold over a million copies and eighteen languages.
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That's an oracle, but it teaches the.
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Planets and basics, the basics. You can actually interpret your
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your chart using Karma Cards. But this is the first
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I was asked during the pandemic to do classes, to
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do astrology classes, and I had so much fun and
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some of the people that I taught went on to
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hang out their own shingles. So I thought, you know,
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but I should do this as a book. And five
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years later I thought it was going to be easy,
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And five years later it's done and it's beautiful, and
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thank god. Mandala Publishing was very excited about having Amy's
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art because they've done our.
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Calendar because it's a hardcover, so it's like, you know,
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it should last forever.
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Yeah, well, I'm hoping that one day it'll be taught
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in the schools. Your cosmic Blueprint will be taught in
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the schools BECAUSEMI. Yeah, you know you're right, because your
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honest rules astrology. And one time I was asked to
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teach a fifth grade class, and you know, everyone's always like, oh,
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kids are going to be so noisy, and they're talking.
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talking about them and I was laning stuff that they'd
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always wondered about. If I taught an astrology class in
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the most well behaved.
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everyone should know the charm of.
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Their children, Yes, especially pre verbal children, because the rising
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sign can give them clues. And you know, for unfortunately,
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some people can't speak, you know, they're autistic or on
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the spectrum, or they have a problem with speaking, and
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you think they're okay, especially if they're Capricorn rising, and
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maybe they're not so that's just one.
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if they are capable of speaking. And I learned early
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that if you you know, it's like neuro linguistic programming,
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if you are setting out information based on how you
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take it in, you're going to miss the mark with
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a lot of people. So when you know someone's chart,
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you can understand how to communicate with them and how
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they process information and what words to use and maybe
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not be so judging. I'd say this from my own.
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Experience thinking that because when you know someone has a
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particular astrological structure and they're not to put in quotes,
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they're not doing what you expect them to do, or
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they're not answering you the way you'd like them to.
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Persons, especially in relationships, I mean, knowing what cycle the
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other person's going through. So you know, if you learn astrology,
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like through our book, you can understand your family and
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your parents and your kids, and you know your loved
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ones and understand things about them that you might not
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have articulated. You might know intuitively, but That's what I
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love about astrology, that it's a language that can describe
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these things in a way that nothing else does.
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Right, especially Caro. I'm telling you I have Fluto on
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my son, and of course I've known it's coming, so
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it's like, well does I'm gonna have to resurrect and
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transform and do all these things. And that's what I've
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been doing. I'm playing music again. I changed change my studio,
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destroyed it to rebuild it. I mean, that's the plutonium way.
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I have Fluto on my ascendant in Leo, So that's
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the way I do everything is destroyed it and then
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rebuild it. Knowing your chart and knowing your transits I mean,
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not knowing your rising signs, like getting dressed in the
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dark wearing clothes from the past. And you know this
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as well as I do. I'm just saying it just
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to get it out there on your show. But knowing astrology,
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it does doesn't make you a better person. It makes
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you a more informed person. People think it's yeah, well, yeah,
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that's true.
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But what we were saying about the individuality, I mean,
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that's what I love, and you have to be very
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interested in people like to be interested in astrology, but
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that I don't understand that this time. You know, we
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grew up in a hippie time where we honored individuality
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and stop that. But now where you have to be
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you know, black or white, or you know this political
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party or that one. Why do people won't think other
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people should think the same exact way.
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Especially since no one does. I know, I think exactly
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the same way as anybody else. I know when you dig, well,
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what did the ancients say? When you know your question,
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you know your answer so.
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Well, I think it does make you tolerant or more tolerant. Yeah,
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when you understand astronomy, I'm.
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Completely tolerant, as as somebody who uses zoom. So I
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guess you know, the owners of Zoom know everything I've
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ever done on Zoom. But I do readings for people
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all over the worldlife clients in Vietnam, Switzerland, you know,
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all over the place, South America. There's some wonderful things
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going on and to action, as you well know, using astrology,
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you actually get to help people and have an impact
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on in the world. What's more important than that? Nothing?
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In my opinion, it.
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Can be a way of really waking somebody up, validating
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who they are okay. I guess it's a good way
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of putting it, like you're not being difficult, you're not
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intentionally trying not to fit in, You're just I love
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talking to people with Chiron and Aquarius actually because I'll
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say you've probably felt like you were dropped here from
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another planet, and that'll.
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Go, yeah, they never had anyone tell them more like
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you said, validate that before.
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And you know, you really put your finger on something
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that Kiron conjunct any planet in a chart can indicate
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that being themselves in that particular way didn't work out
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the way they wished. It could have a lot.
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Of times because it's childhood trauma.
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Well it can be childhood trauma, yes, and when it's
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conjunped the planet. In my experience, I had this validated
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by asking the question of the people I'm reading, let's
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say they have Venus can jump Chiron. It's like being
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the loving person or trying to get into a relationship
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with trouble with a capital T. You know so, and
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the tendency is to think, oh my god, I did
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something wrong. But when you when you say that, it's
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an indication that could be switched a little bit. And
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then it can make you know, making the gods work
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for you, is will it? Caroline Casey who said that,
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oh yeah, she's hilariously funny by the way, Oh yeah,
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oh my god, she's so funny. But but that's astrology
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is the that's I even say this in the introduction
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to Your Cosmic Blueprint, people say that people don't come
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with an instruction manual, Well guess what they do, and
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that it's your cosmic blueprint, it's your chart.
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The point, the part of it that I think is
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potentially the most useful is under standing somebody's moon, particularly
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if you're in a relationship with someone, because people that
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shows you how you experience love. And if you've got somebody,
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you know, if you're someone if you have moon and
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Leo and you like lots of attention, and you're with
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somebody with moon and Capricorn, and you know they you
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know they what they do is love from them, but
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it doesn't you don't recognize.
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It's like you're just cold, right right right, And then
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all of a sudden it explains why there's this thing
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that is not going to get resolved easily. And but
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of course once you knowledge is power. Knowing what the
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situation is is halfway there to dealing with it or
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not and moving on. Murse you have mood and tourism,
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jupid and tourists, which cause you're not moving on.
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That's just experience with people are going to share your
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food in a restaurant anyway, that's my experience. Don't go
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to a Chinese restaurant with people with.
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That no family style for you.
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That's right, isn't it true? You learn as much every
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chart you look at you learn more. I think it's
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so revealing. You know all the aspects and ways people
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play it out and live it out and what they
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focus on.
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And I tell you though, there's a lot of young
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people coming up who have amazing charts.
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Young.
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Yeah, well, I'm in their twenties early thirties. I mean
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at that time, I don't know what was going well,
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actually I do know what was going on, but the
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ones that I encounter, and of course there's a cohort
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of people who come for astrology readings. Not everybody comes
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for an astrology reading, and not everybody can afford it,
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of course, But that's what this book is for. You know.
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I used to say it when I printed out charts
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for people I would say, for the price of lunch,
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why not find out who you're having dinner with?
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Well, it was in the seventies eighties, Yeah, so so
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I mean that's what this book is for, really, is
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so that people can understand what really what real astrology is.
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Karma cards did it, but this.
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Is all committed to it. You know. Sometimes it consumes
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daunting to people or they don't have the patience because
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it's not instant something that you learn. It's a lifelong study. Really,
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unless you use karma cards, you bring things.
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Down in step by step components.
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That's correct.
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Well, the first thing I stopped show people is, you know,
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you can tell a lot without even knowing astrology. Just
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look at you know, because what is astrology? It looks
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like a twelve sliced pizza that was made by the
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new guy, and all of a sudden, there's all the
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topics that they're not evenly distributed. The new guys screwed
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it up. So if they're all over the place, that
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means you can do all lot of stuff. And if
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they're on the right side of me. The one thing,
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if they're on the left side of me, if they're
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on the top, it's on so that I start off
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by showing people you can tell stuff in general, and
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you know, using my forget it was n Mark Edmond
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Jones method of the right side, left side, up and down.
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And of course that's an extreme example.
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Like you said about the moon, you can just look
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up your moon and learn so much.
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Oh yeah, yeah, well we did. We did Amy and
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I did mindful astrology for Quardo and that was all
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about your what do we call your celestial trilogy, which
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is sun moon rising sign, which you know this when
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you go to the conventions and they give you the
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hello my name is and it has your son, your
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moon and the rising sign. You can tell so much.
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I wish everyone was. Yes. We were at a dinner
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party last night, and of course that's what I want
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to know. If somebody knows their chart, it's the best.
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You know, we instantly get to know somebody. And it's
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amazing how many people do know their chart now, especially
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when people still don't know.
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So last night at the dinner party, this woman says
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she's a Pisces. I said, well, what time were you born?
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She said, she gave me the time. I said, well,
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you're an arias rising. So do people think that you're
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more aggressive than you're actually presenting yourself fast And it
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was as if if she's wondering about that her whole life,
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why have people not jet it? There she is with
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Sun and pics in the twelfth and she's an aries rising,
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so they see her as a warrior zen, a warrior princess,
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and she's like trying to help them. But and that's
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just one I'm trying to do the same thing all
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the time, fun right, right exactly, it's not I'm at
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the party and it's like the same otherwise. You know, yes,
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I like dogs as much as the next person. But
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but there's other things to talk about.
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We're gonna we're gonna elaborate on this after the break.
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Welcome all and my shoes. Well you abused, criticized and accused,
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Welcome out and the sheees.
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Welcome back to Celestial Compass. We're talking with Amy's Erner
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and Monty Farber. About their new book, Your Cosmic Blueprint,
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which looks like uh, I have a copy of the
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Book of Kells and it looks like that. This looks
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like an art book. It is truly gorgeous, truly gorgeous.
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Let's let the art. Let's show you.
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So I did tapestries for all the planets. This is
480
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the sun, you know, all sung together, so they're dedicated.
481
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You didn't repurpose other work. You made news tapestries for everything.
482
00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:47.680
That's incredible.
483
00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:51.039
It was so nice that the publisher wanted it to
484
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be like a coffee table book.
485
00:29:54.839 --> 00:30:01.799
But it's and it's hardcover. I mean, I'm trade paperback
486
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:04.359
is still good, but I'm so happy to see.
487
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:07.480
It suitable for bonking somebody on the head.
488
00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:08.839
Anyways.
489
00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:14.480
You you do actually go through all of the component parts, yes,
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learning quickly and with keywords, so you give people enough
491
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that they can get going. You talk not about not
492
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just about how the chart is laid out, but you
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have the elements and the qualities and the and the
494
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signs and then the planets in each house. And it's
495
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:38.039
really amazing. And the keyword driven approach I think gives
496
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:42.319
people the it's what they can get somewhere with that,
497
00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:44.799
and I like the idea of writing a story.
498
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:50.359
Yes, thank you, thank you, because that's the benefit that
499
00:30:50.519 --> 00:30:53.559
is not really known about astrologies. It helps you to
500
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:56.880
free associate, which expands your mind. It's a mind expansion
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00:30:57.440 --> 00:31:01.440
discipline as well as uh and site into psychology. I mean,
502
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:06.000
it's everything. But of course I'm prejudiced for astrology has
503
00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:09.279
been very, very good to me. To paraphrase the old
504
00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:16.079
Saturday Night Live saying, I get so excited when people say, yeah,
505
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:18.799
your karma cards or you're in chanted tarot is what
506
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:21.839
got me into metaphysics then, because we've been doing this
507
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:26.440
since nineteen eighty eight and we're what they call og now, right,
508
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:27.640
original gangsters.
509
00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:32.279
What were you saying about the boomers getting hit?
510
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:42.400
Ohh okay, so the late there's so many ways. Some
511
00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:45.200
people who were born in like fifty five to fifty
512
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:52.200
seven have Pluto at the very end of Leo, and
513
00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:59.559
when the nodes move back, yeah, and they're into Aquarius Leo,
514
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:05.759
they're going to get my cohort's getting really really activated.
515
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:12.000
And by the same token, when Jupiter moves into Leo
516
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:15.359
at the beginning of July, the very beginning of the boomers,
517
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:19.279
they're going to have that also coming at them from
518
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:24.119
me opposing their Pluto people who have the very beginning
519
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:26.599
of the Pluto and Leo generations. It's really technical, but
520
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:30.680
bottom line is there are things going on that will
521
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:36.480
be activating different generations in different ways. And the Boomer generation, well,
522
00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:38.920
I mean actually pre dating because the very beginning of
523
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:43.160
the Pluto and Leo really I've had people have flamed
524
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:46.960
me on my YouTube channel over suggesting that there's connuity.
525
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:50.079
So you know, fine, fine, fine, The very early, the
526
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:54.880
very first wave of the Pluto and Leo generation is
527
00:32:55.240 --> 00:33:00.359
actually quite different than the late wave that grew up
528
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:01.119
in the sixties.
529
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:07.480
Well, yeah, they're having their Pluto opposition. I mean, because
530
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:11.319
of the elliptical nature of Pluto, it's possible most people
531
00:33:11.599 --> 00:33:16.119
don't get a Pluto opposition. Pluto and Leo people are
532
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:17.839
going to get it. I'm going to get it. I
533
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:21.519
have it in the eighteenth degree, close to my ascendant
534
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:23.400
and the people.
535
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:27.519
The people I'm so my fault in the early nineties
536
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:32.319
with Pluto and Scorpio, well, actually in the eighties and
537
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:36.319
the nineties with Pluto and Scorpio are getting awakened in
538
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:38.599
a different way, they're getting challenged in a different way.
539
00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:42.559
So there are these blocks of people who are in
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00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:48.240
adulthood that are getting zapped and they will be energized
541
00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:51.119
and I don't know, I'll be fat you to see
542
00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:51.880
what will happen.
543
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:55.440
But it's like we were saying, we were all saying,
544
00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:58.960
once you know your chart, you know how to draw
545
00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:03.039
on your strengths or to adapt to whatever's hitting you
546
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:06.160
in whatever cycle you're in. You know what to dwell
547
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:08.880
on instead of being thrown off by right.
548
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:11.519
And the worst thing is that when I see people
549
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:16.400
who are afraid of various astrological aspects as if you
550
00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:20.519
can do anything about it except adapt and overcome. As
551
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:23.119
they used to say in the military, that was that
552
00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:26.800
was the job is adapting and overcoming. That's really what
553
00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:31.840
you're here for, is to grow in your understanding of
554
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:34.119
life and also to understand.
555
00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:37.360
The people in your life. You know what they're going through.
556
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:41.559
Really, Yeah, we've been together for fifty years and it's
557
00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:44.559
still fun. It's still there's always still more to do,
558
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:45.599
more to grow.
559
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:50.079
Because of all the different cycles and newness that that brings.
560
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:53.239
Yeah, and you don't have to meet at the filming
561
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:55.119
of a pornum movie. For it to happen to you
562
00:34:56.199 --> 00:35:03.079
as we do. It was an interesting launchpad.
563
00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:05.280
Though we all have stories.
564
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:09.719
This is true, and that's the one we can tell.
565
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:15.400
You had intimated. Earlier in the conversation, you said something
566
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:16.320
about another book.
567
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:21.360
Oh, yes, sure that he's working deep into it. Yeah,
568
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:23.000
talking about.
569
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:28.519
It's about transformation. It's it's it's a book on transformation.
570
00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:33.920
That's a novel, that's a romanticy that the journey is
571
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:38.920
to inter understanding. But it's really entertaining and funny.
572
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:42.000
You never wrote a novel before, no.
573
00:35:41.920 --> 00:35:45.920
But I mean there are people who think all the
574
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:49.920
books I've written or fiction or or romanticies to start with,
575
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:52.880
because they don't believe in astrology or terror or or
576
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:59.559
oracles or whatever. But this is about personal growth and
577
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:02.840
I'm having the most fun. I haven't had this much
578
00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:04.480
fun since I was in a band that just to
579
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:07.159
used to just used to stand up and play like fish.
580
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:10.360
You know, we were good enough to just improvise.
581
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:14.280
None of the other books have dialogue, you know, and
582
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:18.719
scenes to set up, so you know, he writes stories
583
00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:21.880
about each card, or each oracle card, or each child card.
584
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:24.679
But this is a full fledged, big story.
585
00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:27.079
And plus there's no jokes in my books.
586
00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:28.840
Funny.
587
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:31.320
There's a lot of funny and everyone and I'm really funny.
588
00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:34.960
It's always sounds stupid to say that, but I'm funny,
589
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.320
and I get to be funny in this way all
590
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:40.119
the different aspects of my being. And I've met a
591
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:42.880
lot of really amazing people and I can put what
592
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:46.199
I've learned from them into the into the book. There
593
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:49.679
are some people that are in there. They'll find out.
594
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:55.760
But it's fun. It's so much fun. It's like designing
595
00:36:55.800 --> 00:37:02.320
your own Disney ride or Universal ride. That's uh. And
596
00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:05.000
I already have interest, you know, from our publishers.
597
00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:09.519
So that's good, very good, very nice. Well, I'm sure
598
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:14.000
we'll be waiting for the uh filming of it to.
599
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:20.199
For that too. That from your Mouth to the Goddess's Ears.
600
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:23.159
I don't know if you saw, Kathy, but somebody made
601
00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:27.199
a documentary about us. Yes, we're having a New York
602
00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:30.000
premiere in May out here where we live.
603
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:36.199
It's a benefit screening for Bay Street Theater, which is
604
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:39.639
an accredited you know, off Broadway they try out you
605
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:43.599
know in uh, in sag Harbor, New York. And it's
606
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:46.199
going to be on May ninth and at four o'clock
607
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:48.239
and it's a benefit for Bay Street, which is a
608
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:51.000
great place. We actually saw Tina Turner there.
609
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:54.679
So it's in sag Harbor. The premiere is in sag Harbor.
610
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:56.280
And yeah, in sag Harbor.
611
00:37:56.360 --> 00:37:58.719
But one of these days that'll land somewhere where other
612
00:37:58.760 --> 00:37:59.360
people come to.
613
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:01.519
You, right, even if it just lives online.
614
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:04.920
That's basically our creative journey, you know.
615
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:08.119
And how we just we just got it accepted to
616
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:09.239
another festival.
617
00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:13.119
Yeah, it's a woman's festival because our producer director is
618
00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:13.599
a woman.
619
00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:16.360
Yeah, she's pretty amazing. We got we did win the
620
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:21.039
Audience Choice at the NewHope, Pennsylvania Film Festival. But our
621
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:24.159
thing is hard to I mean, it's for people that
622
00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:28.880
understand that people need positive role models. Like when Amy
623
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:31.320
and I first did our first TikTok thing, we took
624
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:33.599
people in our house and talked about what we do,
625
00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:37.119
and we got three hundred and fifty thousand people because
626
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:39.119
and a lot of them would say goals, you know,
627
00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:42.559
because they I guess they want to be like They.
628
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.159
Also said can you be my mommy and daddy?
629
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:46.119
We got a lot of that.
630
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:48.840
Yeah, that's TikTok.
631
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:52.760
That was that was Yeah, that was TikTok from the
632
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:58.559
little Baby module above the crib. But but we are,
633
00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:00.599
we're having a good time and we want to share
634
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:03.119
that with people. And Anne Marie threaded the needle and
635
00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:07.480
she made the documentary like hanging out with us and
636
00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:10.760
not an infomercial, which that danger is there because we've
637
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:13.760
done it's hard to separate us from what we've done.
638
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:17.800
Mm hm, you were it was pretty far along the
639
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:19.239
last time you were on my show.
640
00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:24.039
Yeah, we've talked about this. Yeah, this is great processes.
641
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:28.440
There's a learning experience.
642
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:32.280
Wow. We actually yeah, there are permission attorneys. I'm sure
643
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:36.840
you know this. Yeah, that that is uh you that
644
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:39.280
is definitely a pit stop you pull into for a
645
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:44.480
while when you're doing a document I mean it's like,
646
00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:48.639
oh yeah, and we got whoa, that's going to take
647
00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:53.079
some time and then the weirdest things happen. We have
648
00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:58.400
we appeared on HSN and QVC in the nineties when
649
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:00.920
we were young. We have the video and they say
650
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:03.039
funny things about us, how we make them sick because
651
00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:05.400
we like each other, and we had to use that.
652
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:08.119
We got the permission in two seconds. The ones that
653
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:10.280
you think are going to be the hard of the
654
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:14.000
easy ones. Those are the ones like, well, everybody's dead
655
00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:18.280
or we don't even know who did this, so then
656
00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:20.400
you know, and then you pray to the gods of
657
00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:22.119
fair use and you just.
658
00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:25.280
That's a risk.
659
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:30.239
Yes, that's why you get the lawyer to sign off
660
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.880
on it, so they do that.
661
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:37.440
Did you use astrology and legal work? I mean for
662
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:40.199
clients to understand what's going on?
663
00:40:41.679 --> 00:40:45.039
There was some a little bit of overlap.
664
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:47.400
Yep, right, No.
665
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:53.000
More strangely, I was actually tired to watch what was
666
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:56.719
going on in a courtroom. There were people who would
667
00:40:56.760 --> 00:41:00.480
have me sit what's called second chair and do research
668
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:03.400
and wouldn't have the vocabulary to know what I was
669
00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:06.280
really doing. They just knew I could read the jury,
670
00:41:06.320 --> 00:41:10.639
they didn't know how or why. Actually, yeah, an elder
671
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:12.519
in the Church of Christ pulled me in for that,
672
00:41:12.599 --> 00:41:19.000
and I thought, oh, if you had any idea anyway,
673
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:24.239
But no, I have. I've had some overlapping client base.
674
00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:30.079
Yes, wow for jury selection. What a brilliant brilliant watch what.
675
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:30.480
Was going on?
676
00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:31.119
Uh?
677
00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:33.960
In the trial? Like when are you losing them? What's
678
00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:39.119
happening here? And unfortunately the situation where I was specifically
679
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:43.519
pulled in with my cards was a losing case and
680
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:46.159
I knew it. I knew it legally at the outset,
681
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:48.719
and I knew it wasn't going to get anywhere, And
682
00:41:48.760 --> 00:41:51.840
I thought what had happened to the plane iff was
683
00:41:54.280 --> 00:42:00.719
it was a situation where a well anyway, I just
684
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:04.559
knew that the concessions and the things that had been
685
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:08.679
given already to the plantiff were so far beyond what
686
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:12.400
he was legally entitled to, and given the cultural differences
687
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:15.320
in the backgrounds, I just thought, this is it's amazing.
688
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:17.639
You got what you got and you're not going to
689
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:19.800
get more. But they didn't want to hear that from
690
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:22.440
me before, and they did not. The case didn't go
691
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:24.199
It was a disaster.
692
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:30.519
Yeah, I can understand that I'll never be called for
693
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:33.639
jury duty again because the last time I went in
694
00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:37.440
there and I was convinced, I was getting intimations that
695
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:39.840
this person was innocent. I wanted to beyond the jury
696
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:43.360
and they, you know, they do the thing, well, does
697
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:45.639
anyone have a little problem, They can talk to us
698
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:47.119
out in the hall. And they went out and said, well,
699
00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:49.760
you know, you can look at it on the internet.
700
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:52.639
I'm kind of like a well known psychic and astrologer,
701
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:55.119
and it's basically, don'let the door hit you on the
702
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:57.400
butt when you're running out of here. And I think
703
00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:01.079
they like put a big red law. I don't ever
704
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:04.880
call this jerk again. It used to be they wouldn't
705
00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:08.079
call cops. Now they call cops, which is strange. When
706
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:10.440
my father was a policeman, they would never call them.
707
00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:13.320
But I guess they get challenged off.
708
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:21.559
I've seen so many things.
709
00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:22.800
In the Blade Runner, at the very end where he goes,
710
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:25.039
I've seen things.
711
00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:28.960
I've written a lot of them. Speaking of which you were.
712
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:32.440
You were telling tales of your life on Facebook for
713
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:34.719
quite a while and I was saying, this should be
714
00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:37.079
a little monto you. Is that is that shelved? Will
715
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:37.480
you do that?
716
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:44.440
You mean a story of my life has kind of compiled. Yeah,
717
00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:47.840
we had a publisher sort of give advice how he
718
00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:50.159
could organize it, but then he got into this.
719
00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:53.559
I think after this novel comes out, because I've really
720
00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:57.719
found my voice here, I don't think she publishes that
721
00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:01.679
kind of romanticies, but I think it would be a
722
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good example that yes I can write. So I'll start
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with you know, one of the advantage of living in
724
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the Hamptons is there some pretty amazing people out here.
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And this woman, this woman carved her own publishing company
726
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out of nothing and it's become something.
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But I love the stories too. A lot of people
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say that on Facebook, like, we want a whole book
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of your story.
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We have the title, thanks to me and Mom Shooting
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Star Seeing Stars, Seeing Stars because I, you know, from
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the film business, I did run into a lot of them.
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But and I'm an astrologer. So there you go. You
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heard it first here on your show. We broke the story.
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Well, you know, some of us just ob seeing things
736
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other people have or we've noticed things other people haven't,
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And I think we have an obligation. I have a
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bunch of books like this. And I actually I did
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a reading on a writer's open mic a couple of
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weeks ago. Most of the other people were in their twenties,
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and I about a really I mean, I read about
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this really pathetic experience with someone who had sent me
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fan mail, and at the end of the this woman
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in her twenties leaned toward me and said, is this
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a real person? Like, oh yeah, oh yes. Things were
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very different in the nineties.
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That's funny, right if you can say that's what gets
748
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us through the whole thing anyways, like seeing the humor
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and in crazy situation.
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Well, plus I've worked in the movie business, the music
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business right there that you could laugh the whole day
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away just about some of the people that were there
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a business. And yes, the New Age you know, for
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a while there, I don't know if you know this.
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There used to we were on those New Age cruises
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for New Age magazine, the Inner Voyage.
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They would get like five hundred seven hundred people. Yeah,
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they were crazy.
759
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Fun But one time one of the people said, well,
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would you like to get a reading for me? I
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only read for what's going to happen to you in
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five thousand years or what happened to you five thousand
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years ago?
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For real?
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And yes, your person at the open mic would have
766
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been saying, is that for real?
767
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Because I think I believe it absolute.
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And you know, we don't.
769
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We got to bet some of the New Age authors
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that some of them were full of you know, some
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of them trip right over their tone.
772
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You know, what is going on there where there's so
773
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much illusion and we have to really be so discerning
774
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about what's real what's not real?
775
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You mean, how people put their faith in princes and
776
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now the princes.
777
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I can't tell if they I or not. They can't
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tell if somebody's you know, has a real background and
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something right. Well, that's just it. That's where intuitions come out.
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Your intuition is necessary to tell what's AI or not.
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That's at the very least.
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I've been wondering with with Neptune and Pisces for as
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long as it was. I've had the feeling that now
784
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that it's moved into aries, that a lot of the
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nonsense is burning off. Maybe it's not.
786
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That's it's a good point, because is all about honesty. Yes,
787
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so burning the fog away. Yes, seeing things about people.
788
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I mean, we're learning an awful lot about stuff that.
789
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Yes in front of us, like really, Okay, a.
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New York City police sergeant father who had also been
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in the military before World War Two and after he
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didn't trust anybody, especially me. I mean, but but you
793
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know what I mean. You But at the same time,
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it's not a bad idea because you have to be discerned,
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you have to be a tough person, you have to
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be the Saturn Capricorn tenth house idealization of this is
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a tough world. Don't just believe everything you hear and say,
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you know what I mean. It's got to be that
799
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archetypal you know, discipline as as a and yes, distrust
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to a.
801
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Degree until you see it's real.
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Well, especially when you had Neptune going through pisces for
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fourteen years. I mean, look what, Look what we're coming
804
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out of. Look what we're coming into.
805
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The drug addiction, right it's a pervasive just you know,
806
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prescription drugs.
807
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It's just normalized right right, God, you see this is
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what happens, real, honest, interesting conversations. This is why if
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you if you're a good astrologer, you can talk about
810
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stuff like that. And I do like dogs and cats,
811
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but nice way I can talk about cats that. This
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is why we want everybody to be an astrologer.
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Conversation exactly well, and people will.
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People want to know about themselves. It's not hard topic
815
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to sell, even to the skeptics, because you have about themselves.
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I told my nephews when we were growing up, you know,
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I said, they say, learn to play the guitar. I said,
818
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I did that. But I think you're better off if
819
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you want to meet people, especially people that you're interested
820
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in to learn tarot and astrology because you're talking about them.
821
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It's not like they have to come to you because
822
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you're such a great musician. It's it's you're talking about
823
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their essence and you can give them advice or you
824
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can give them insight. What's more powerful than that. It
825
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ain't what you read in the newspapers, and there ain't
826
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even newspapers anymore talking about Neptune and areas and Saturn
827
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and areas dissolving things. But this whole Saturday Neptune thing
828
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is the dissolving of structure and the structure of that dissolution.
829
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Like but as you're an attorney, it's like structuring a divorce,
830
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but there's a structure. There's divorces from all kinds of
831
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stuff being structured right now, like banks closing their branches.
832
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That's a big deal, people getting fired because they blame
833
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it on AI. But I'm not sure it's all about AI.
834
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Because people started working at home during the pandemic, right.
835
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The the glod of office space because people did start
836
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working at home. The person who's interested in the editor
837
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that's interested in my book, I was like, well, you
838
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ever come out to the Hamptons like, no, I moved
839
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to Alabama. I work, you know. I was like, oh, okay, sure, okay.
840
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While Amy and I are the fixed point in the
841
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ever changing world, we like to stay home and work.
842
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That's what we do.
843
00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:49.960
Well, that's that's Leo and Aquarius right there.
844
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With a Taurist Midhaven Nolah.
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So we're lucky that we love our work, you know
846
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we do. You're lucky if you find work that you want.
847
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And I have an a Stellium and Aquarius I have.
848
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I'm Venus and Jupiter in the sixth so I love
849
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to work.
850
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I have Venus in the sixth So yeah, I guess
851
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that's for both of us.
852
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Yeah, it's so nice to be on your show because
853
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the people that are watching, at the very least respect
854
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:20.360
astrology and maybe know a bit about it. Yeah, which
855
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is wonderful. I don't that's so awesome that well, it
856
00:51:26.199 --> 00:51:30.159
just shows you've had an impact that that's major because
857
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it ripples out the people that we impact impact other people.
858
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It's a forced multiplier.
859
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So here's a funny thing. I had an astrology column
860
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in my high school newspaper. What's in the Bible Belt
861
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that's all. I don't know how the newspaper sponsor advisor.
862
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I don't know how I got away with it. I
863
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don't know how I got away with it. So I
864
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was we put together a senior issue with like predictions
865
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of what people were going to be. So I slipped.
866
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I slipped that I was going to be an astrologer.
867
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So now when I go back to reunions and stuff,
868
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I've become incredibly open. And usually the guy that worked
869
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for FedEx, well, that is so cool. He's selling FedEx accounts. Uh,
870
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I'm being judgmental, I understand, but it's only it's only
871
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been one person in all these years who's given me
872
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a Dallas. Yeah, in Dallas.
873
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That's impressive. That's very impressive.
874
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That's so cool. Yeah, it's much more in the air,
875
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you know, as acceptable thing when we were young and
876
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we were called cretans.
877
00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:52.519
Oh how nice.
878
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Yeah an attorney.
879
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Well, but you don't run into that kind of skepticism.
880
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I do.
881
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I still I still do.
882
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I guess.
883
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Whatever.
884
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Well, in the half I just said him, yeah, I
885
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made a lot of money, and then they just back
886
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right along exactly.
887
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:13.480
Yeah, there's their their metric.
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00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:18.400
I'll meet them halfway.
889
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You know, I saw the astro Twins did something really
890
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good with some guy who was blasting them for their astrology.
891
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They had like they just slipped in a photo of
892
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:30.000
their five data Kappa certificate and I thought, oh, I
893
00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:32.360
have not doing that one, but that'll work.
894
00:53:33.519 --> 00:53:35.239
Yeah, for sure, you want.
895
00:53:35.119 --> 00:53:37.400
The credentials there, let me throw it.
896
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And there's some greatest prologers out there, yourself and William
897
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and Theodore, there's.
898
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There's people we don't even know. I mean, it's.
899
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And it's so nice that so many young people want
900
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to you know you. Yes, a lot of them are
901
00:53:54.760 --> 00:54:00.280
very attractive and go on in bikinis and daily uh,
902
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:04.159
but maybe one day they'll they'll be really you know experience.
903
00:54:05.800 --> 00:54:08.079
Well, we're coming to the end of our time, so
904
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I want to thank you. It's always a delight talking
905
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with you. Tell people where they can find you online.
906
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Well, the easiest way is Enchanted World dot net, right
907
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dot com or the Enchanted World dot com, both of
908
00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:25.119
them everything that we do, or you can just say
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00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:27.920
you know Amy at Amy Amy Zern dot com or
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00:54:28.039 --> 00:54:30.880
Monty with any at Monty Farmer dot com. We have
911
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:33.599
a lot We are not the boomers who are not
912
00:54:33.719 --> 00:54:37.119
technical we have computers everywhere in the house and we're
913
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up to date.
914
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There's the Aquarius. Well, I thank you very very much,
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and I love this book and I hope it does
916
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very well. I bet it will, and I will make
917
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good on my threat to come out there. It didn't
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work last year, but it will.
919
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We have a guest room.
920
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Oh my god. Well that makes it easier, okay, anyway
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one or another. Thank you very very much, everybody. My
922
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forecasts are at home times and they're also at Empowerment
923
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Unlimited dot net and my YouTube channel, Professional Aquarium, which
924
00:55:15.880 --> 00:55:20.519
also has my political astrology if you're into that. So everyone,
925
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we're going into a very very exciting time. Be safe
926
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and listen to your own inner guidance. That's what I
927
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will leave you with.
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Good advice by ALLUSI