Clearing Stress Through Bodywork with Dave Claing

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, it's Amanda, and Carolina, and we're back of another episode of Booty Babel, and today we're interviewing Dave Clang.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a functional sports therapist and a very incredible body worker.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Carolina goes to him regularly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've gone a couple times and going to him is extremely intense.
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[SPEAKER_04]: However, it works, it really does.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think he's just one of those people that I need in my life consistently every single week, just because I work so hard.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Do we flow left two to three times a week?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm doing yoga, I'm doing like weight training, and so if I didn't see him, I feel like I'd probably get injured.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I think it's a good reminder that we do make so much time for exercise.
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[SPEAKER_02]: but then when it comes to going to get on the side or bodywork, we're like, oh, that's a luxury.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we talked about him with him a lot about a lot of things, but especially how important it is as he would say to take out the trash.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right, guys, welcome.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're here with Dave Plank and he is a sports functional therapist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice to done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go work.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, I get why do we're from him on go regular and I honestly cannot look about him because he keeps me in very free and happy and feeling good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So first we're just going to ask you, you know, kind of like a little bit about yourself.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How did you get into this sort of therapy?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, why you do it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Give us a little introduction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so my name is Dave as Carolean and just said, I've been doing this for 27 years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems just like yesterday they started.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When I started in the 90s, I didn't even know this was a career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No one told me I could do this for money, but I originally went to university to be a teacher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And after substitute teaching for a week when we had college break,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I literally left Friday from the high school and went directly to my counselor and said I don't want to do this, and there's no way I'm going to be teacher and be happy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I could I she tried to talk me out of it because I had a semester left and college and she's like you're going to have to go to more school and I said I don't care.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and then she like, you know, since I was having a panic attack, she was like, well, you know, it was a two and a half hour meeting and she goes, well, what do you like to do?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, I'm always in the athletic training room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Always, I'm always in there, I play college soccer, but I took athletic training classes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing I was ever good at in college was anatomy and physiology and
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[SPEAKER_01]: stuff to do with functionality and how the body moves and reacts and school never was good for me until then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when we were just university students and just learning from the athletic trainer, I would always ask for the injuries that required some kind of massage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I never knew I was doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We only had a peripheral athletic training.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't like a massage school.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This woman came walked into our athletic training room and she was waiting for her fiance to graduate college.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just happened to be a freshman with him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was getting his masters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She had just graduated from sports therapy massage school.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And but she had never had any practical experience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She had only worked on her classmates.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and learned about what they should do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So while she was waiting for her fiance to graduate, she walked in and she said, can I just volunteer and hang out in the athletic training room?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And since I was so interested in massage, the head athletic trainer said, Dave, you teach Brandy all the stuff as athletic trainers that we do Brandy, you teach Dave, all the stuff that massage therapy do people do and we
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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So for three months straight, we touched everybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We touched athletes, administrators, coaches, parents that were visiting, she couldn't stay out of the athletic training room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't stop absorbing like her information.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So,
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[SPEAKER_01]: We both in three months, I mean, it was insane what we did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So from there, I was graduating finally because I had saved a couple of extra years to get all these other extra credits because I had all these useless teacher credits now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And just so happens, the Head Athletic Trainer from our college became the Head Athletic Trainer for USA Hockey in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was at the time dating a woman in Middlebury, Vermont.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I graduated college, went to Middlebury, Vermont, he went to Ann Arbor, Michigan, and I got a call one day and this is just out of college and building your business.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not rich, I'm still paying bills.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he asked me and he said, hey, Clang, we're doing a training camp for the World Junior team in Lake Placid at the Olympic Training Center in Lake Placid, New York, which was an hour and 15 minutes directly west of where I was in Medellary, Vermont.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He goes, I can't pay you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't put you up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think you should volunteer for the week and who knows, but at least to be a valuable experience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So as broke as I was, I drove an hour and 15 minutes each way for the whole week, didn't get paid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At the end of the week, I was offered a job for a month traveling with the team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this starts the ball rolling on where all this weird experience comes from because traveling with a limpic, I was just walking around the Olympic training center
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you learn on an exponential level how humans can be gifted in ways that you know you know why they're on TV and you learn how to take care of said physical specimen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you have all this, I mean you're in the Olympic Training Center, you have all this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have the best nutritionist, you have the best caneseologist, you have the best strength and conditioning coaches, and they all want the best for the athletes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the same goes for the training staff, they say it like our standards were held that high.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I ended up traveling with them, I'm going to Sweden with them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, you're just working on half of our team ended up in the NHL, so it's not like this is, you know, these are talented talented athletes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that led into an invitation that same invitation the next following year with a pro NHL team, the same thing they were doing a training camp at Lake Placid, they couldn't put me up, they couldn't pay me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if I would volunteer and if I fit the mold and I was good then I, you know, and I got hired after that and I worked in New York for the professional hockey team traveling to all these NHL cities working on Pete what you know, I in this is where I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: your your hippie athletic trainer brain gets gets a little calist when you start working on people on TV because you understand that they don't treat them as humans anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They treat they pay them such a salary that you are now a business investment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I was hired to do is they don't care, you know, I touch these guys in some way shape and form a functional massage every time, but four times a day for a month straight to make sure that stuffed in, if they could work as hard as they could that night and nothing stayed in their body or without damn, or if you got slashed or banged in the board or just
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got need and you've got sland on the ice, you slept wrong in the hotel, the traveling time zones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's, it is relentless.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's meetings, there's lift.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's, they don't just show people think they just show up on TV and play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's, they get off the ice and then go work out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's, it's non-stop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, that was young Dave.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't do what I did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I could not at my age with the mileage and my arthritis and my hands now that I could not handle being a dadist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was so was 14, 16 hour days and they're all so strange.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, they're, they're, they're legs and asses were so strong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, oh, cute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I never knew guys needed tailored jeans because their ass and hamstrings were so big by the time they could get legs to fit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: around their legs, the waist was comical, though I mean it was comical.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it just, it is their so fit, they're so fit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So anyways, it's just- I don't know that you kind of got like the style that you do today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I, you know, and now- Well, that's like a crash course.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my goodness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to talk about, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to the size school per se.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's- it's a very interesting journey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like to learn what you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, one, excuse me, one point I was talking to one of my college soccer teammates and you know, strange story, but we had such a good relationship and I was so enamored about my job about where I had come from because I traveled, we had private planes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The whole private planes are first class seats.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The staff sat up front, the boys sat in the back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I never went to a private airport.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I never went to a public airport.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just drove to a private airport, walked up in the back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But this was normal for, you know, I got my own room on the road.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And at the time, you know, you stay at five star hotels all over the place.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And at the time in the 90 or 2019, 2000, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: as well you know as much as they are now and I would all if there was a phone in the bathroom I would always call my buddy J.R.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and he would answer the phone at work and I would go you know he would say hi you know this is J.R.
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[SPEAKER_01]: speaking and I go hey J.R.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and he would I could hear him whisper bend over and he goes climb where are you now
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Phoenix, you should see this bathroom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've never, I just make like Gretzky, you know, you know, we just like, well, I mean, you're just, you're pretty, you're, I could tell any child stories from here on to the cows come home and some aren't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, uh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, it also makes me wonder, like, in my opinion, coffee players with the topists.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I get asked that all the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a gnarly gnarly sport.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, in your by-work is
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[SPEAKER_02]: will use the word sensation, like it's not a lay-down and relax.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And also, I mean, this is, like, you put your bodywork is one of the only experiences where I've had, like, full of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a change, there's actually been a change.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're other than just like a relaxing, nervous, just a race that it's more like, oh, my leg doesn't hurt me more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it really is actually therapy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I just wonder, like, since you've got to practice on people that can withstand so much pain, I mean, I think that helps shape your style or just what works is all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, you know, it's to the point where
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[SPEAKER_01]: I now know when I won't get along with someone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is, and now I'm to the point where if you show up and you're not athletic and you like deep tissue massage, you are going to hate me, I'm not going, I'm not going to have a fun massage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and I, you know, because you're just going to want a nice whatever they do in no offense to massage and be or yeah, it's far, it's just different and, you know, I like pressure, I like, you know, I'm like you're going to hate me now you don't, and they don't know, they don't understand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But within three minutes of touching every professional I have two people that I work on in the NFL that are current.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And within the first three minutes, me touching them, they're like, this guy knows what he's doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And because they don't want to mess around either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They, well, and they don't want to fluffy massage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They work really hard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're trying to keep their jobs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're trying to keep their jobs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like they're trying to keep their jobs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're working really hard, you know, so they don't they don't want to, if they want a nice massage, they can go have one on big when they're on vacation when they're relaxing on the beach or something and they understand what that is, but when they come to see me, they have been working, they've been training, they've been recovering from an injury, they have
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[SPEAKER_01]: then trying to get a contract renewed, they're trying to show up and be seen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that takes a lot of work because there's a lot of people behind you that are want your job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, like Caroline said, there's no warm up and there's no, there's, there's a list of shit to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't make out and we gotta get to business.
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[SPEAKER_02]: maximize the time, so in single minutes, least it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How did you shift from working with athletes into, like working with,
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[SPEAKER_02]: people like, they're like, I mean, we're athletic, but we're not athletes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're a little bit tough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're a little bit tough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, ah, and, you know, that I was gonna say before that was the toughest sport.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like, a better, better, more than football and any talent, I've never seen this such athlete.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, what was the question because I got excited?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what did your career shift
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, after I got done with all the pro stuff, actually, when me were in Key West, I owned a personal training studio.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I actually trained people because I watched professionals get trained.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I never was a repson sets person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was a functional there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was a functional trainer as well, and, but after my time in Key West, I did, I did both.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did therapy and training, and I was so burned out on therapy when I came to San Diego.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just missed working on people who worked out, and I didn't want to train people anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I have my self-motivated, I like working on self-motivated people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and then we plopped here and I'm full of self-motivated people all over the place that hurt themselves doing all kinds of things.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Thank goodness for surfing and mountain biking and it I mean it's funny you say like because I remember when you came back we went north parallel north Carolina go when he came back he was telling me how different it was to like
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, work on people there versus here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe you can talk about the mentality is, you know, here I'm seen as an investment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, people don't want to stop doing their thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because if they do, they have an aneurysm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They do, they just have, they think they're going to turn into job with the hot and they have an aneurysm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there it was seen as an expense and only when it was deemed necessary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It would be a luxury if they saw me more than when it was absolutely necessary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then by the time that usually when someone sees me, like I just started seeing two triathletes, that they just, they're now injured.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The injury just didn't happen overnight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The injury has been building up because these two women are headstrong, they don't want to stop, and they don't like to stop, and they just sweep things under the carpet and keep going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And well, and just push through it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, women have a tendency to, you know, I'm fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: no way okay so you know I mean yeah so speaking of right so I totally guess yeah um so yeah you're still working with self-motifated people who
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[SPEAKER_02]: movement's very dirty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I still have retired and, you know, current at pro athletes as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That then again, living here, I'm privy to because they, you know, I just happen to know a gentleman and that, you know, the NFL sends him guys in the off season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they can, they can be
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they need to be on the structured plan, and he is a very, he's a guru, you know, and Derek.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, Derek knows about me and Derek doesn't hesitate to send me, because he knows my reputation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and Derek and I actually, I never met, he's just, that's, so I get just, I get clients from him just on reputational loan.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, and that's about you and one of your questions was like, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: trying to figure out what's best.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not best for everybody, you know, and that's just okay, and I'm and it doesn't hurt my feelings whatsoever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen so many people, no, and I've seen so many people once and never again, and they think I'm the worst thing ever, and they just, they don't understand why I'm in business, and that's fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, I think it mad that they can't
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[SPEAKER_02]: to be able to have to like lash out is speaking to that like what would you say is the biggest misconception about like bodywork in general but even more like about what you do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Trying to explain to people what I do is very difficult because, you know, we were trying, like, you know, when we started trying to figure out what to call me, and for years, you know, sports massage, well, it doesn't feel like a massage, all right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's not really therapy, but, you know, my background is massage, but it's also half an athletic trainer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's really, it was so, so that's why we have come up with the athletic functional therapy because mostly I deal with, you know, I ask how old, what do you do and do you see people often so I get a, I get like a landscape before I dive in to said,
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[SPEAKER_01]: whatever issues there are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've been doing this for so long now that I just need a little bit of information and then, you know, we're all, all the muscles are laid out the same, but your, your timeline and your timeline and your body injury history and your body injury history and how you choose to use your body and how you choose to use yours yours, it all, that, that paints a different picture and basically,
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[SPEAKER_01]: One year I was watching a national geographic episode about senses and people who can't hear can't see, can't smell, don't have any arms, and how they, you know, the people who don't have arms can make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and put it in a Ziploc bag with their feet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and, you know, I know how much control you have with your feet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've been, you know, exactly, but I mean, so it's all, it's there, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, but it was so interesting about the people who were blind and how their touch was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think I was maybe in year five, this is year 27, and I decided I was going to do massages with my eyes closed all year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and just to see, you know, just to see, you know, if I was, if I needed to move, I would, you know, open my eyes and move around the table, if I needed to reposition, but other in that when I was hands-on, I was just, you know, I was just eyes closed and you learn basically what I do was read muscle braille.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and that's how I figure out stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then when I feel things in the Braille, I try to move the thing and look at the lever in pulley because said person told me they used
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[SPEAKER_01]: They use their body this way, okay?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So then I can, I know what that movement is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll do that movement and it's literally the folkrum of that movement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can figure out if the levers and pullies and folkrum going to that thing, what is, what's holding on to it, is it full of stuff,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Does it, you know, it does have it, he's in it, does it, is it, like, does it feel swollen with poo and it or, you know, it just, but it, but it all like, yeah, but it just, it's waste material, you know, and minerals and minerals and nutrients create waste, we muscles need to feed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and again, my job with the pros was not just keeping them functionalized, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: keeping every, not letting their hard work sit in there and not that I don't want any of their hard work stored.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and since they're so dense and strong, they can hide stuff in the attic and in the basement, they just have the room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're so strong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, that's why a majority of my clients are big strong dudes because I know how to,
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[SPEAKER_01]: do it in a proper way, find the craft that's in way, you know, it's buried and it's not easy tissue to get through.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not, I mean, these are strong people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the same thing goes with everyone, you know, the flow lift experts in the room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's no different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, when she comes in and I have no idea what she's been doing, you know, and so that's it's, I've never done the same massage in all the years and I just did, you know, and time flies by, there's so much to do, we work so hard, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, again, moving back here, it reminded me, you know, I just went back to North Carolina for wedding and
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[SPEAKER_01]: everyone asked me how it was and I just told them literally what I told you is everyone you know in people aren't scared to come see me because they don't want to stop doing their exercise and whatever their thing is you know it doesn't have to be a pro athlete it's just a I just started seeing you know marathoners and triathletes and you know and the lady I saw last night
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, but man was she behind on taking care of herself and you know, and that's a lot of people
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's stubbornness and type A had strongness and so this is about education.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I try to educate people about coming to see me as, you know, the question, I don't, I never know what to say, you know, how often should I come see you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I never, I don't know your financial landscape.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: if you really need this, how much it helped, you know, I always tell people if it helps and you need it, don't be afraid to use it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, but, but don't, you know, please don't keep sweeping shit under the carpet and waiting, you know, because it just... So you're injured.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and then, you know, I try to remind people that, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Your insides want to have a janitor come and clean stuff out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone is happier when your house is clean.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, if you walked in and your house is clean and you weren't expecting it you're you're out of two changes Yeah, so the same thing goes with the inside if you use that if you use your team You know, and no one ever comes to clean and you keep asking your team to do stuff You know, they're just they're working environment is just Trash and they're you're not they're not as motivated and they just then then sometimes I start revolting that's true Tell so my team
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[SPEAKER_01]: Morten, they're just, they're just once, they want the maid to come, they just want the maid to come.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got it, I just, I just clean things, it's it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I have a funny question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bring it up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What's the weirdest thing anyone has ever done or said?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so I thought, I thought about this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so once, once,
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[SPEAKER_01]: this lady, and I think this was, uh, I can't, this has got to be 20 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was in Key West, and she needed a break.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, from your there from she just needed she just needed a 10 sec she needed a breather.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She just needed me a stop for like, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Usually I just space out and don't pay attention to you guys at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just do my I usually pay attention to the drums That are playing in the background and you know, I do my own time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing my hand thing and you know listening to these guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And
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[SPEAKER_01]: I came around at grandma and I didn't understand where she like, but she had been saying uncle for so long that she started going through other like she was like, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Brother, sister-in-law, grandpa, grandma, and I was like, what the hell is she talking about?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I didn't realize she had said uncle for so long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, so then, I was laughing so hard, but I wasn't stopping, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So then she followed it up by, she picks her head up and, you know, the little face covering?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, she just,
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[SPEAKER_01]: this is dirty and rips it off and throws it across the room and I was I stopped laughing I was horrified I ended my head I was like oh there's no way it's dirty I put on clean sheets all the time I was like I was just I was so horrified and I was like I was just I was like oh my god it shouldn't be I was like I just
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[SPEAKER_01]: Brought in fresh laundry and you know, I just and I'm was screwing across that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll get you a fresh one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so sorry and and she just starts laughing yeah she goes I needed you to take a break and she goes I couldn't think anywhere else the way to stop you
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, and I just, you stopped me on my tracks, and I was like, you kidding me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, it doesn't smell dirty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, yeah, she's like, I just need to just stop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So those are the two funniest and stopping stories that I have got, like, the most ingenious ones and the most funniest ones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Other than that, I wish I don't have the mental capacity to keep track of the rest of the all the funny things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, so many good funny things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you ever get like sick of touching people?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like your need.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're talking to a, I made classic introvert my, you know, I, I'm, I'm really good in my room, but I really don't like people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I love the people I work on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and I went my wife will attest to when I get home after a day and I mean I love what I do, I absolutely love what I do and I love being challenged and I love feeling the way I do, but when I get home I am
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm usually, I need a minute to myself and there are days after, you know, when I get on vacation, that I don't, I can't wait not to touch anybody and I, in some times, I need some quiet time because it's so, it's intimate and you're touching someone in their intimate spots.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's only so many people who you allow to touch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that unleashes emotional things and things that have been swept under the carpet that now we're dealing with that makes it emotional.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it and I'm a very emotional due to which helps me be a good therapist, but it is, you know, for me it's intense and I want to be good at my job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it is all about
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[SPEAKER_01]: whoever's in there, it's all about them and I remind them it's all about them because they have they're usually forgetting to think about them and putting others ahead and not taking care of themselves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I remind them to that, you know, hey, we're here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm useless and we're going to talk about you and I'm going to help you think about you and I'm going to make you think about you and
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, and it helps them focus on them, which helps therapy, because then it helps just then you're getting into, you know, the stuff that, you know, being a mom, being a wife, being career, you know, having friends dealing with parent aging, whatever, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, my favorite one is women are much better at dealing with their emotional pain and telling me about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I love the dudes who come in and run a company, have a family, have a kid, they're really into their sports and the neck and shoulder pain is still from a high school football injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, dude,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have 200 people on you and a wife and kids.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, you know, they get to come stress.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No I think it's from high school, you know, it's wrestling with my brother and I fell out of a tree And I was like, no, you didn't I was like, you know, you're dealing with HR shit right now and you know You're trying to acquire a company and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm like you got a lot going on
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so it's fun, it's fun, you got to remind them to look at themselves because I, I deal with very successful people in their lives, you know, and, but they usually forget to think about them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, and they're really good about keeping the venn diagram in a circle good, but they're really bad about keeping the middle good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think about, like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: reference to like somatic stuff, which I think, but a lot of times I think the person does really know what they're talking about like oh, your emotions are in your hips, just like sort of classic lines that people throw out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you do have any viewpoint?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Every once in a while I was Carolina when I'm when I'm doing footwork on like what is this you know what like You know last what point it goes in the reflexology.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I'll ask her because I'm fascinated by that and I like
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like acupuncture, you know, and I've been trading with other therapists for 27 years and I've had some horrible trades and I've had some really good trades and I've had some learning trades and you know, you really learn about
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[SPEAKER_02]: different styles and different things and you gotta get me back on track because I I'm going off you ever feel like wow it really does maybe seem like emotions are stored in these must issues that I'm working on
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[SPEAKER_01]: Usually, yes, but that also comes with I would say almost 90% of the time, yes, unless it's injury driven, but then you have the emotions of being injured, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then that's a whole other dark deep cycle that it's a whole, I mean, it gets dark deep depressive, I mean, it's
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[SPEAKER_01]: you have to coach them through that as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yes, usually people exercise their mental demons off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is, that's the keep their mental crazy down with the physicality.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's all, all of us, all of us that do it to the extent that we do, that's how I know
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, one's a, you know, one's a pilot, one's a lawyer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're both marathon triathlete.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was calling them out for not doing what they should be doing was so easy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they both get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They both, they're both smart enough to get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they just know that being stubborn and just being is now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've hit that plateau.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And even though they can keep pushing, their bodies are so beat up that they just need love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They just need, they need a mechanic and they need a janitor and they just so they can go keep kicking ass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they're not, their stubbornness is not going to get them off the plateau right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So.
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[SPEAKER_01]: because they don't, they don't, you know, again, most physical people as soon as they think they, you know, stopping or taking a day off is having a weakness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to lose my fitness and I'm going to get fat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is, that's a, it is the most horrible shit ever that is, and really your team, your team has been pushed to the brink.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they just need the whole recovery process is having a team of people to take care of you and that's your recovery.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And can you tell a lot about just touching someone's like,
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[SPEAKER_04]: What does it say about family?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Can you, like, create a story about what's going on or?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it depends on your profession.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can probably, if you gave me a body and you didn't tell me anything and you gave me an hour just to like roam around, I could probably come close to what they do, just because because there's repetition, like all the doctors that I feel, the dentists, the dentists, they all lean and you need to develop certain set of muscles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to achieve those, to be a successful dentist and to do the hours that you need to do, you have to develop these muscles, but they come with a price.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the next problem is the arm problems, back in the day, there was only so many people and old enough to understand microfiche.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay, but this is I had a librarian transferring, you know, micro-feet to like CDs or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is back in the 90s and she was doing it all with the mouse and the amount of stress, just from the mouse work, just from a holding a mouse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I, and I, and that record.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, just holding the elbow up in the air for hours and hours and hours so we decided that she says start there's the same set of muscles on her left and she said the first day she was like this because her left was so untrained but by the time we started switching she just came in for regular massage it was amazing the stress that was gone like into she still was
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[SPEAKER_01]: She was still being used, but it was not, oh my God, it was just like this rock.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, I was like, what is going on here?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, anyways, that's what six or seven hours of sitting at a desk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know, huh?
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[SPEAKER_01]: For those flashbacks, flash, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Flashback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so it is what you do like could we call some of what you do deep tissue massage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you wanted to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can you Like we're 12 years old.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can you talk a little bit about that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And like do you I feel like the word fascia is like so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So everyone wants to break down massage and massage is basically helping blood flow, and
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[SPEAKER_01]: when you get into specifics, you know, the fact of things, the, you know, then in the cupping, the stuff that deals with that, then then you're just being becoming specific that reflexology, the, you know, wrong thing, you know, those are very, I have, you know, they're very educated about what they do, there's a gold, there's a thing,
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[SPEAKER_01]: But basically, we all have the same goal of trying to increase whatever is bugging anyone, what I try to tell everyone is the 12-year-old, I'm just trying to help trying to answer the 12-year-old question.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I could be just like a girl all the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, well, I said about reading Muscle Braille.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In my world, you know, I can tell when someone works on me if they're reading my muscles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can tell if I'm just getting regular massage.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just go into the usual massage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I am, and I just, so I know that,
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[SPEAKER_01]: What I do again?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to read what's inside the muscle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you go to a spa massage, they're not as focused on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're just they want they're either
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[SPEAKER_01]: Making your fashion feel good or they're helping the blood flow, you know, at the most minimal effect surface, that's a great, that's a great, that's a great, perfect, perfect word to me feels like your skin is just being moved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But most of my clients get massages, like they get massages on vacation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have many clients that have regular massages with normal people, just a feel good, just so they can chill out and feel good, you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's, I encourage all of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I tell everyone to try as many therapists as possible, because
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[SPEAKER_01]: person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, or that time, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, you just,
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[SPEAKER_01]: The back spasm thing the people who have the back spasm okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I now I know that meet seeing me is not going to help You know, I buy all the acupuncture helps more than I do and actually, you know, sad to say But your drugs are actually this is one time that You know, you don't need to take them for long, but it is that bad that Massage is not gonna help you and you're gonna do
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's sometimes that that's good, but you know, and this time it is not so and I've just learned the hard way and as much as I want to help And you know, and that pains me not even to be able to help, but I'm like I'm not, let's not waste time and money here because it's, you know, I, yeah, I just don't Back in the month or yeah, or just, you know, let's get you somewhere else or, you know, so yeah
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[SPEAKER_04]: What about mental health?
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[SPEAKER_04]: You think there's a connection between the type of therapy that you do and mental health?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The people that are like, I know, I know people who see me regularly or get regular therapy have a good connection with their body and that means a lot to me because I know they're listening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and that and they're not ignoring it, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that so that connection is I feel like the people who are regular or more in tune and the people who are like I just started seeing these new people and they're having a lot of emotional reaction to it because they've been sweeping things under the carpet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and they just have been ignoring things, so, you know, and the thing is, you can educate people and tell them until they're blue in the face, but you need to let them come to their own conclusion,
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, therapy only works when the person is like, I need help.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, and, and these, you know, and then that's when my coaching comes in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What I'm trying to do is not hurt you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not about saying how much pain you can take.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not any of these, this is not any of these things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But this is, this is self therapy and we're going to talk about who's fault this is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's fault is this and it's usually not mine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just not my fault.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you think the more consistent you are seeing you the less painful
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[SPEAKER_02]: We have an answer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, okay, so this is- I'm sorry to brand you as painful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is the dichotomy that works, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the dichotomy that works.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, these people I just start seeing what the difference between Carolean who comes in regularly and these two people who started, I started seeing is that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Carolina is now, she is not what I call, she's not storing or hoarding stuff, okay?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but so that is completely opposite of these two other people who I just started.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They told me there's a leak in the bathroom and the upstairs bathroom and I open the door and I can't even find the stairway upstairs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's that kind of house and no matter what I do helps
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[SPEAKER_01]: but I am nowhere near the bathroom leak yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is, okay, so, but the problem is where when your Carolina and come in normally and regularly that you've usually feel better and you do more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, in that's the whole thing and I already wore these two ladies, I already wore them, I go because they're so far behind that as you start feeling better, I feel better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I could do more, you know, and where did you get in trouble doing more?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So as long as so it's, it's, it's gonna, it takes, I said, you know, you said it before the journey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, so the insides are good, but as you catch them up and get them feeling better, they get excited and start doing their stuff more because they get excited.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, I haven't felt like this in a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and how you know, I can do it back and do it longer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you know, and so therefore there's more of stuff coming, you know, so it is like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a, so eventually, you know, you start, so eventually I will get to that leak and I will clean out the addicts and I will clean out all the basement and we will be on on a path, if they're regular enough on a path of just dealing with their physical madness on a regular basis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone should be dealing with their physical madness on a regular basis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It helps with the mental madness, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the balance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's the physical madness, balance the mental madness.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and don't see the connection between the physical and mental madness.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's an opportunity to find that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and that's, and you know, it's the thing about, um,
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[SPEAKER_01]: The people inside our brains are chattery and when we're exercising, they all calm down or no one can get to us or it's that and it balances and if and if we don't go to that place It's that little mental andeurysm and we get edgy and people start getting, you know, even
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[SPEAKER_01]: you get touchy, it just sits here, you're not, you didn't breathe and sweat, you're not, you don't feel, you didn't take your sweaty shower, where you feel good and you know, yeah, you're getting towel off after a sweaty good athletic shower and it's just the best thing ever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But when you don't get that and go through that routine, and it starts meant when you're at it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's the balance of how intense people are in their regular lives and how they balance it out with their physical lives.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's cool.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You are there at best, you are.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And so for people who can't afford it on a regular basis, it's, you know, it costs money.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What do you think there are some things they could do?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there are a myriad of physical tools out there to help us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: usually set athletes that I work on have a drawer or a room full of things that they either use or purchased and don't use anymore that were fed blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So nothing is nothing is
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[SPEAKER_01]: full proof, but everything helps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you have a foam roller, if you have a massage gun, if you have compression legs, if you have a stem machine, if you have a hot tub, if you have a cold plunge, some people have a sauna, some people have an infrared machine, some machines are pulsing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, the electrical stem, you know, um, 10 June.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, and all of these, uh, the rolling sticks, the balls for plantar fasciitis, uh, toast predators, you know, yoga toes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all, all of these things add up into goodness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just need to use them periodically sporadically, every once in a while, you know, if, if you're not going to see a therapist, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: then do the other things, it's, you know, that's their out there and as long as you use them, Saj gone, yeah, it might be expensive, but you can add it last years, years, the foam rollers, you know, we have my wife and I, we've sent them everywhere, my mother-in-law's place,
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[SPEAKER_01]: There, you know, there are one upstairs, there's one downstairs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, are we have compression legs?
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[SPEAKER_01]: She has every little stick thing for, she had plantar fasciitis one year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So she has all kinds of, you know, the balls that have, yeah, that are smooth, spiky.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's, you know, it's, you got to have all the things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So...
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[SPEAKER_01]: There is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So as long as you utilize them, you know, that's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and it's, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Are do you think there's any like red flags?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you said, the someone in backspasms take them off of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, go see an acupuncture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The other like red flags maybe like don't get in the
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, I mean, but people, you know, it's amazing how people will self-diagnosed and, and, uh, just, they, or it's not as bad as it looks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's just, it still doesn't look broken, is it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Does it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I'm not touching that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You need, you need to go x-ray that and, you know, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you want, I always ask, did your orthopedic surgeon say it was okay, because I want smarter people to me, as soon as I get the green light, I'm good, but there are times when you see a fresh injury and you're like, can we just get some information first before I know you want to get going on this, but let's just get some info.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, whatever, just some information.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We just need some information.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So you're always taking care of others.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How do you take care of yourself?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I don't know, I don't know, that's me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, unfortunately, my, I love massage, but I'm looking for one now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My personal massage therapist just passed away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I know it's unfortunate because it's hard to find a massage therapist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just know that I can't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, it's hard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hear that a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you like what kind of
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[SPEAKER_01]: Same as me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a person who can do what you did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To a degree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's part to find.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel bad for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I love acupuncture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I found, and I've been using hers a substitute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why I've been leaning on her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love a good, finally found a chiropractic person that
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been looking for 18 years, trying to find someone who can listen and has the qualities.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just hard to find people who are who fit, you know, your needs and I take care of myself, you know, the good thing about this job is I have been dealing with when I was
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I had 40, 50, and 60-year-old people telling me what it was like to be 40, 50, and 60, or to turn those ages.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember it's very specifically in the back of my head thinking,
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[SPEAKER_01]: on that arthritis, I'll never have arthritis and it takes them a while to warm up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, what's this, that takes them a while to recover?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is like, all of it, I was like, I'll never be like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now, and now, I mean,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and the other thing coupled with that is all these people that I was seeing at 40, 50 and 60 that were going through that, as soon as they started seeing me, they I heard this I wish I would have started this sooner, okay, so now extrapolate I've been hearing that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: for 20 something years now of people who have reiterated how important it is to take and these people are older than me and been done way more life than me, you know, have tried to, you know, so many different experiences and and I wish I would have started this sooner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've heard that so many times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I am weirdly, I don't like groups or yoga or anything like specific, but I am weirdly flexible because I work on it because I know how important it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, I'm weirdly flexible for everyone that either stretches me or when I go to a doctor's office and then I go touch your toes and I palm the floor and they're like, hold it crap, so I mean, it's just,
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[SPEAKER_01]: for many years to just keep at it, you know, and so I'm diligent about using the foam roller, using the massage gun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just in the compression legs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, it's just, I'm really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do practice what I preach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just looking for a massage person right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, breathe deeply through your nose when you stretch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When I stretch, um, yeah, I'm pretty good at
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just don't like I just don't like oh, yeah, but I mean, no, no, yeah, yeah, I mean, but my wife My wife doesn't say that I do, but I mean, but I just don't I just don't like classes Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah So if you could give everyone like one piece of advice about taking care of their body
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do something doesn't matter doesn't matter what it is just you know if if you're not going to do something yourself Then hire someone to do it And just take responsibility because you are trust me and I don't care how you think I don't hurt, you know Just doesn't I love I want to make favorite things
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, what are we doing today?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know everything seems to feel good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, really Oh Oh, it's go Well, maybe what it found this before the knees started hurting
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[SPEAKER_04]: What do you want people to walk away from this conversation?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Understanding about what you do?
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[SPEAKER_01]: How many forms of it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just that it's, you know, this is about your journey that I'm helping you on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm, I don't do well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really don't do well with people who aren't on their own journey and they want to come use me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: just for massage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like the motivated people who are on their own.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They just, I want to travel when I'm traveling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to be active and when I'm active, I'm happy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I want to make sure I'm hiking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm walking through the vineyards or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is, say it again because I get so, I just go off on.
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[SPEAKER_04]: to know about, you know, what you do, like, how, why is it important?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, that I think people that are, the people that I see are so motivated that the stubbornness over rules, they're wanting to take care of themselves, all right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they don't, they don't put enough
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, emphasis on how important it is even to their brain and to how they run their think tank because that's very important to them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, they come to me for their physical, but we've, I've said this before, but it is so a mental and emotional.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, again, you know, I have, it's right, I move back and now I have clients who have kids going off to college, right, and now there's a shift in the, in the husband wife dichotomy and the time that there might be one or two kids left in the, in the family dichotomy, but I also sent it through my clients.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, like, it did affect everything, it affects everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, you know, I'm proud of the gentleman that I see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're really cognizant about
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[SPEAKER_01]: the connection of how stressful running a company is and having a family and they're really good about listening to their body and their mental relaxation or it's mostly surfing and they don't want to stop surfing because that is their balance and that connects them to Mother Nature.
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[SPEAKER_01]: no one can talk to them and they they all feel much better and there you want to be doing what you want to do what makes it feel good you have to
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[SPEAKER_01]: as intents as they want to do it, because these people are intents.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what you like to see, like, some people who have their things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The driven people are a lot of fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's fun because I get to, I have to spend time helping them, focus on them, and then because they're so bad at it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and it's their worst skill set, there's so I have so many other good skill sets that they're their skill set I'm focusing on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I really, you know, the ones that want to invest into that, I'm really, you know, that's what I'd like to help, and that's really what I'd like to help do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, and
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[SPEAKER_01]: and facilitate, you know, reciprocate basically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, yeah, are you taking new clients?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a good answer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How can people find you if there is your office?
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[SPEAKER_01]: My office is 7440 Gerard Avenue, yep, right between osteo strong and the karate place, there's a...
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, what was the other question?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You are taking Yes, find me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, usually just word of mouth and phone number and yeah
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't do it, I don't do it, I'm such a dinosaur, I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't do a Facebook or Instagram, yeah, emails, good, email, texting is fine, yeah, I'm of a dinosaur in that world, all right, thank you so much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you guys for this talk, this has been been very informative and this is awesome, thank you for having me and I hope to
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a wonderful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate your time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, ladies.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So excited.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We did that podcast.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I know the importance of this type of work that Dave does and I'm so glad that we can share it with you guys because it's one of the things that I like I said earlier and not live without.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And now I'm gonna go, how much do you go?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I go once every other week or once every week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that's what I'm thinking, like, yeah, once a month at least, yes, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is necessary for anyone who exercises and, like, loves to do, but things they love to do, you need to make time for stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, thank you to Dave and thanks for your idea.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for listening.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You guys.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: See you next time.