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Welcome to Buckeyes Tomorrow morning. For
Wednesday at twenty sixth I'm your host,
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tom Or. The Indiana game is
in one hundred and thirty days, the
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game against Michigan in two hundred and
fourteen days. Our post spring look back
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at the position by position situation for
Ohio State football continues today. Earlier in
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the week, I had Kevin Noun
on to talk about the corners. Today
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we're talking quarterbacks, and we're doing
that with Earl Buddy, Tony Gerdemana bukee
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Huddle dot Com. Tony and I
are on the Buckeye Weekly podcast this week,
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answering a bunch of your questions about
a whole bunch of different things.
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So you want to hear us talk
about anything other than quarterbacks, that's where
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to hear it today. We're just
talking QBS Tony. Coming out of the
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spring, are you feeling better or
worse about the Ohio State quarterback position than
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you did going into the spring.
I don't know that you can feel better
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about it because Devin Brown got injured. But I do feel better about Tristan
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Jebbia getting to see him a little
bit. I was impressed by some of
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the things he did you know,
is it a good thing that Kyle McCord.
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Neither Kyle McCord nor Devin Brown maybe
like distanced themselves. Maybe maybe not.
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Ryan Day said, he wanted that
to happen, but you know,
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I don't know that he you can
want it. I don't know that you
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expected it. So I think I'm
not like, I'm not doubtful at this
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point. I just think ideally everybody
would have been healthy, everybody would have
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gotten their fifteen practices. So the
fact that they didn't, you know,
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it's it was not ideal. So
if it's not ideal, then you know,
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you're you get a dialing back just
a little, but nothing that can't
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be overcome. As Ryan Day said, you know, Devin Brown misses like
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four practices of you know, however, you know forty at the end of
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the day, it's not really going
to matter. And you know, look
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at some of these stuff that all
goes into evaluating the quarterbacks and how did
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the quarterbacks look to spring. Well, they were missing Mecca Boca, Julian
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Fleming, They're missing Xavier Johnson for
most the spring, so that three or
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top four probably wide receivers. Marn
Harrison played sometimes but not a ton because
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he's Marvin Harrison and doesn't need to
play a ton. So he had younger
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wide receivers out there. A bunch. The offensive line was a little bit
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of a concern, maybe a little
bit more than a little bit of a
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concern for some folks. So all
of that goes into, you know,
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not setting the quarterbacks up for just
rip roaring success. And also, the
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defense looked a heck of a lot
better this spring, and there's always the
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challenge of it, so is this
because the offense is not up to the
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standards it has been in the past, or is this because the defense is
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legitimately better? And it might be
a little of both. So let's talk
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a little bit about each of these
guys individually. Kyle McCord, I think
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came into the spring. I think
I probably said, like fifty five forty
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five, Kyle McCord wins the job. And you know, I think a
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lot of that gap is he's a
little bit of a better thrower than Devin
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Brown, sort of reputationally at least, and he had an extra year in
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the system, so he's probably a
little bit, you know, a few
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more reps, kind of a little
bit more up to speed on the chalkboard,
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all that kind of stuff. What
did you see out of Kyle McCord
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this spring and did you know the
likelihood of him being the starting quarterback for
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the Indiana game change materially in one
direction or another for you? No,
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I think I still have him as
the favorite. And I don't know,
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you know, because I think I
agreed with you, like fifty five forty
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five. I don't know if it's
gone sixty forty at this point. I
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don't I don't know if that's the
case. I still feel confident that it's
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going to be klm m accord.
So it's like, are you hedging on
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this fifty five forty five when you're
very convinced that it's going to be Kyle
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McCord, Like, it doesn't not
mean Ady twenty, but you can't say
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AD twenty because they're splitting the reps
completely. You know, fifty fifty,
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although at times it's thirty three,
thirty three, thirty three when Tristan Jeb
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isn't there. But like whenever,
whenever we saw them, it was Kyl
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McCord and Devin Brown sharing them and
nothing that I saw from kylm McCord makes
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me think any less. In fact, I might think more of him,
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because you when you compare the two
of Kyle Accord and Devin Brown, you
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look at what the other guy does
better than the other, and doubt Devin
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Brown is a better runner. So
you have to see can Kyle McCord at
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least get close to what Devin Brown
does as a runner. And I thought
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I was impressed by his ability to
escape the pass rush. He was more
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than willing to keep the ball on
read option. Not that he's going to
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get hit or anything, so why
wouldn't he be willing? But I was
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very impressed by his mobility, and
I think that was that was Devin Brown's
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big advantage. And if you start
cutting into that advantage, then you see,
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Okay, well Kyle McCord does what
we would like to do with Devin
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Brown, and so you can do
some things. Now Devin Brown is still
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a better runner. But do you
need Devin Brown's running or do you need
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a guy that can move the chains
and also has the ability to run.
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So nothing I saw from comm Accord
makes me think any less. It would
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it would have been great to see
him perform in a way that is like,
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well, this guy is just different. But I as I think that's
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a testament to Devin Brown. Yeah, Devin Brown, I think you know,
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you came into the spring expecting him
to be the better runner. Calm
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Accord certainly looked like a willing runner, which really that might be all you
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really need out of the quarterback position. You're not looking for calm Accord to
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run for a thousand yards. You're
looking for him to be able to pick
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up a third and three every once
in a while, or everyone's covered on
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second and seven, Great, pick
up three yards and make it third and
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four instead of third and seven or
something like that. And he certainly looked
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more than willing to do that,
and that, you know, maybe that
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cuts into the Devin Brown advantage there
a little bit. So yeah, you
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know, I think I come out
of the spring a little more confident in
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calm Accord being the starter than I
did going in, maybe, like you
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said, maybe more like sixty forty
something like that. But not having the
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opportunity to see Devin Brown in the
spring game, that I think is something
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that will you know, cut cut
down on you know, I think that
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probably keeps it closer to static,
to where we saw it at the beginning
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of the spring than it would have
been. Other one is just because you're
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missing you know, we didn't see
him. We didn't see him in the
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spring game. We saw him pretty
much the rest of the practices before,
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and it seemed again pretty close,
but it seemed like probably a little bit
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of an advantage for Kyle McCord at
that point. And I'm still kind of
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still kind of sticking sticking with that
right now. Brown himself, I mean,
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he was impressive for the most part
this spring. It was again not
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dominant, not incredible, but looked
solid, looked like someone who could you
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know, they can. They can
absolutely win ten games with Devin Brown,
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and you know, potentially more much
more than that, if if it needs
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to, you know, if that's
where it ends up being. This this
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injury doesn't sound like it's going to
be serious. It sounds like you should
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be back to throwing a little bit
later on this summer, well before fall
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camp. You know, if if
Devin Brown is the starter this year,
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what is the ceiling for Ohio States
team is this? Is that still potentially
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a national championship team with Devin Brown? I think so, because he's a
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guy. That's when you get better
with every rap in every game, and
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so by the time he's a Renchert
freshman starting his tenth game, I think
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you're gonna have one of the best
quarterbacks in the Big Ten. And again
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I'll keep saying if whoever is the
starting quarterback at Ohio State under Ryan Day,
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they've been all Big Ten and so
no reason to expect that to change
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with whoever starts here, including Devin
Brown. So if he wins the job,
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not only are you starting as Ohio
States quarterback, but you've beaten out
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Kyle McCord, So you've you've shown
that you can play. And with him,
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I think the same thing as with
McCord. You've got to show that
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you can do what the other guy
can do, and I thought he showed
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a very strong arment and put some
heat behind his passes. Now, what
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you can't do during the games is
trying to be the other guy, because
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that's what costs them in twenty fifteen
with JT. Barrett and Cardale Jones.
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Once you've got the job, you've
got to be yourself. But you know
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back then they're brot guys, so
you're trained to That just created a whole
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other issue. But once you've won
the job, you be yourself, and
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actually you have to be yourself to
win the job. But in doing that,
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show that Kyle McChord does not have
much better of an arm or is
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not more accurate. Like that'll all
come out through all of these practices,
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and as we're watching them, you
can watch and see somebody thrown incompletion.
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You can see Devin Brown throwing incompletion, but everything may have been right about
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that read. And you can watch
Kyle McChord throw a completion and it may
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have been the wrong read. You
missed the first guy. And so an
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incompletion can be graded higher than a
completion just based on what are you seeing?
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Where is this supposed to go?
Why did you throw it there?
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And that's all of the stuff behind
the scenes in the film work, in
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the meetings that we have no idea
about that. You know that past to
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cardinal take that was perfect, but
you get to the meeting room and it's
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like, why didn't you throw it
here? Why did you throw it there?
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Yeah, he caught it, but
there is two there are two defenders
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there. When you had a guy, they're your first read wide open,
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and so all that comes out,
and you know that will all be put
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into who actually eventually wins. But
Devin Brown, you know, I think
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there's there's plenty of excitement around him. I think that that went away a
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little bit when he got injured,
and so people didn't get to see him.
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They they didn't get to their their
their wish fulfill to see Devin Brown
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running around at a spring game.
And you've kind of noticed on social media
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that there hasn't been this, there's
this, There isn't this Devin Brown versus
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Colm McCord thing because they people didn't
get to see Devin Brown, so they
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really have nothing to go on other
than you know, frustration. I think,
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yeah, I'm sure the coaching staff
would have rather had him out there.
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But you know, from a fan
base perspective, the spring game is
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always one that you worry about people
reading way too much into because it is
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just one of fifteen practices and just
because it's the only one you get to
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watch doesn't mean it's the only one
that actually counts. And so you know,
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you don't have the wild overreaction to
the spring game that you would have
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in a typical season. It was
just kind of like well, Kyle McCord
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was okay but not great, and
Devon Brown was not playing, so you
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don't have the will. This guy
completed ten percent more of his passes than
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the other guy, so he has
to be the starter. It's like,
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well, that was one practice.
You can't read too much into it,
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so you avoided that this year,
if nothing else. But so I think
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of the three guys who were on
campus this spring, the person who maybe
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changed my view of his ceiling the
most is Tristan Jebbia. And I don't
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think Tristan Jeba is probably the kind
of quarterback that is going to lead Ohio
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State to a national championship if you
get down to the third string situation like
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they did in twenty fourteen, probably
not. But he looked for a first
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spring in just brand new to the
offense. He had played at Oregon State,
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so he had some you know,
had some experience, but this is
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obviously a brand new offense. Came
in and looked like absolutely, if the
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world blows up and he's your starting
quarterback on day one, this is an
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Ohio State team that can win nine
games, maybe ten games. I mean,
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he looked very solid. He was
impressive. In the spring game.
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He was solid. The rest of
the times we saw him. He came
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in and he looked He looked a
lot like Chris Chugganoff looked at times at
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Ohio State where guy coming in Chrugganov
came from West Virginia, had some starting
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experience there wasn't incredible, didn't light
the world on fire. But when you
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put Chris Chugganoff in, it was
like, yeah, it's fine. Everything
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is going to be fine. You're
not necessarily gonna win the national championship,
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but it'll be fine. The world
is not going to blow up. And
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Tom Tristan Jebia looks very much like
he's on that kind of path where you
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know, if he if he's starting, that is not a best case scenario
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for Ohio State, but it's also
like, it'll be fine. Yeah,
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this is where the rest of your
talent has to step up and win.
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And Tristan Jeba to Marvin Harrison,
there's still a winning combination. And so
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yeah, I'm the same way.
Where would he rank among all of the
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quarterbacks like him in terms of Gunner
Hope, you know, chugging Off,
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Matt Baldwin, you know guys that
weren't necessarily great to start, but the
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starting experience that he has, I
mean, he's a guy that has beaten
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his rival. He's beaten Oregon,
so that that all matters. And maybe
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it comes with a fifty eight percent
completion percentage, but there will be times
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where it comes with the play being
made. So yeah, I was I
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was impressed and not really expecting to
be impressed by him this spring. Yeah,
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I think he came comes in and
gives them exactly what you would have
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wanted from him as a as a
third string guy. So that's that's good,
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that's exactly what you want. And
then you know he has He came
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in. He didn't come in talking
about like I'm gonna win the starting job.
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He came in talking about he wants
to coach football in the future,
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and this is sort of a pathway
to do that. So you know,
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this is this is a very much
mutually beneficial thing where he's sort of getting
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set up for his future, but
also he gives them just a little bit
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of extra security in the present.
Randy's talking about wanting to have four scholarship
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quarterbacks every year, and this is
this is kind of the way you have
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to do it these days, and
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security for ryand and a little bit
of promising future for Tristan Jeba. So
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that fourth Childship quarterback is Lincoln Keenholtz
and Tony. I've got to say my
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impression of Lincoln Keenholtz didn't change one
iota this spring. Maybe that was because
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he wasn't part of the campus,
that wasn't on campus at Ohio State.
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Yet I think he's one of those
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You've seen him play basketball, You've
seen him play baseball, You've seen
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him play football, and he looks
like, yeah, that looks like someone
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who should be playing high level Division
one athletics somewhere. But he you know,
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we I don't know quite what to
expect for this year. I don't
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think you're gonna I think Lincoln Keenholets
will redshirt this year is one of the
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safest bets on the Ohio State roster. But you know, I mean,
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I think that's he's certainly someone that
you look at him and it's like,
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yeah, a year or tune from
now, he could absolutely be in the
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starting the starting quarterback battle at Ohio
State. I am not going to put
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that out there that any type of
red shirt not red shirting, because I'm
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not trying to spook the forces on
that one. But he is in terms
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of thoughts or impressions increasing. I
saw a windmill dunk he did on the
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basketball course, so of course I
think more of him now than I did
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before. But this is a guy
and I wrote this a couple days ago,
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maybe on Monday or so, about
how he might be the best overall
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athlete on the team when he arrives, because this is a guy who obviously
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a three time starting quarterback on an
All state team or a state championship team
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at nine thousand yards passing in his
career over three thousand yards brushing, two
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time first team All State basketball,
nineteen point per game score as a baseball
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player, beat a nearly five hundred
as a junior three and O as a
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pitcher with a one point two four
ERA. So like, this is a
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guy who is everybody's All American type
that just does everything good. And I
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assume when he gets to Ohio State, he's probably gonna blow everybody away on
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the Arcade golf course that they've got
there, and you know, whatever else
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needs him South Dakota, So he'll
probably kill everybody in the deer hunting games
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as well. Like he's just everything
he does, he's just good at and
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you know he'll walk in and be
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like, how is this even happening? But you know that's also the kind
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of guy you want as your quarterback
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expect him to red shirt. I'm interested
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to see what he could do.
It's too bad that he couldn't get to
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Ohio State in time for spring ball. But of course he's a he's a
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three sport athlete and he that's all
serious to him, and coaches love their
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three sport athletes and they want their
quarterbacks to do all of that. So
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you can't follow him. And as
you said, it's not like they're looking
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to have him do anything this year. So still looking forward to I guess
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seeing him maybe in the spring and
certainly in the spring next year. I
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will he get his four games,
maybe handing the ball off because Devin Brown
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didn't throw a pass as a true
freshman. C J. Stroud, Jack
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Miller didn't throw passes. Kl McCord
three passes because he was in certain but
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that wasn't the only game when he
when he started against Acron any three passes.
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guess well, I'd say less than
fifty fifty just because your calm accord in
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his refreshman season was the number two. Lincoln Kingholes is going to be the
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number four, then number four,
you know, even when the number four,
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you know is Queen Ewers. He
didn't throw any passes, So yeah,
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that you're probably not going to see
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much. You know, if he
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this year and not thirteen or forty
or whatever. So yeah, I think
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he is a very much a you
know, you're not you don't have to
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come in this is this is the
guy the you know, the little bit
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of a project quarterback would get drafted
by the NFL team with a veteran you
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know, who's who's going to be
able to start one more area. You
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can just sort of sit learn,
take your time, not be rushed out
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in the field. That's probably the
best case scenario for his development is just
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learned the playbook, spend a year
working with Ryan Day and Corey Dennis and
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Todd Fitch and just get up to
speed on things. And then in twenty
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twenty four, when potentially you have
Kyle McCord off to the NFL, then
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there's another starting quarterback battle and then
you can you can get in on that,
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and if you don't win that one, well, then Devin Brown's off
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the NFL in twenty twenty five and
you can get in on the one after
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that with Aaron Nolan. So should
should be a fun summer as we sort
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of try to shake out how this
all is going to resolve itself in terms
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of Kyle McCord versus Devin Brown.
Overall, seems like this is this is
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a position group where you kind of
have to give Ohio State benefit it out
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based on the track record of development
and that the caliber of players they're bringing
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in, you sort of have to
assume it's going to work out because it
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tends to work out for Ohio State
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we will continue to keep an eye
on that at Buckehudtle dot com and it'll
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be a lot of stuff to talk
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strategic about this and start with the
ones. We're pretty confident that the final
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Welcome to Buckeyes Tomorrow morning. For
Wednesday at twenty sixth I'm your host,
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tom Or. The Indiana game is
in one hundred and thirty days, the
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game against Michigan in two hundred and
fourteen days. Our post spring look back
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at the position by position situation for
Ohio State football continues today. Earlier in
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the week, I had Kevin Noun
on to talk about the corners. Today
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we're talking quarterbacks, and we're doing
that with Earl Buddy, Tony Gerdemana bukee
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Huddle dot Com. Tony and I
are on the Buckeye Weekly podcast this week,
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answering a bunch of your questions about
a whole bunch of different things.
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So you want to hear us talk
about anything other than quarterbacks, that's where
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to hear it today. We're just
talking QBS Tony. Coming out of the
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spring, are you feeling better or
worse about the Ohio State quarterback position than
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you did going into the spring.
I don't know that you can feel better
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about it because Devin Brown got injured. But I do feel better about Tristan
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Jebbia getting to see him a little
bit. I was impressed by some of
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the things he did you know,
is it a good thing that Kyle McCord.
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Neither Kyle McCord nor Devin Brown maybe
like distanced themselves. Maybe maybe not.
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Ryan Day said, he wanted that
to happen, but you know,
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I don't know that he you can
want it. I don't know that you
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expected it. So I think I'm
not like, I'm not doubtful at this
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point. I just think ideally everybody
would have been healthy, everybody would have
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gotten their fifteen practices. So the
fact that they didn't, you know,
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it's it was not ideal. So
if it's not ideal, then you know,
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you're you get a dialing back just
a little, but nothing that can't
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be overcome. As Ryan Day said, you know, Devin Brown misses like
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four practices of you know, however, you know forty at the end of
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the day, it's not really going
to matter. And you know, look
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at some of these stuff that all
goes into evaluating the quarterbacks and how did
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the quarterbacks look to spring. Well, they were missing Mecca Boca, Julian
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Fleming, They're missing Xavier Johnson for
most the spring, so that three or
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top four probably wide receivers. Marn
Harrison played sometimes but not a ton because
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he's Marvin Harrison and doesn't need to
play a ton. So he had younger
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wide receivers out there. A bunch. The offensive line was a little bit
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of a concern, maybe a little
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concern for some folks. So all
of that goes into, you know,
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not setting the quarterbacks up for just
rip roaring success. And also, the
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defense looked a heck of a lot
better this spring, and there's always the
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challenge of it, so is this
because the offense is not up to the
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standards it has been in the past, or is this because the defense is
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legitimately better? And it might be
a little of both. So let's talk
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a little bit about each of these
guys individually. Kyle McCord, I think
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came into the spring. I think
I probably said, like fifty five forty
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five, Kyle McCord wins the job. And you know, I think a
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lot of that gap is he's a
little bit of a better thrower than Devin
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Brown, sort of reputationally at least, and he had an extra year in
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the system, so he's probably a
little bit, you know, a few
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more reps, kind of a little
bit more up to speed on the chalkboard,
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all that kind of stuff. What
did you see out of Kyle McCord
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this spring and did you know the
likelihood of him being the starting quarterback for
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the Indiana game change materially in one
direction or another for you? No,
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I think I still have him as
the favorite. And I don't know,
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you know, because I think I
agreed with you, like fifty five forty
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five. I don't know if it's
gone sixty forty at this point. I
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don't I don't know if that's the
case. I still feel confident that it's
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going to be klm m accord.
So it's like, are you hedging on
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this fifty five forty five when you're
very convinced that it's going to be Kyle
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McCord, Like, it doesn't not
mean Ady twenty, but you can't say
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AD twenty because they're splitting the reps
completely. You know, fifty fifty,
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although at times it's thirty three,
thirty three, thirty three when Tristan Jeb
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isn't there. But like whenever,
whenever we saw them, it was Kyl
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McCord and Devin Brown sharing them and
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me think any less. In fact, I might think more of him,
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because you when you compare the two
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look at what the other guy does
better than the other, and doubt Devin
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Brown is a better runner. So
you have to see can Kyle McCord at
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least get close to what Devin Brown
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I was impressed by his ability to
escape the pass rush. He was more
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than willing to keep the ball on
read option. Not that he's going to
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get hit or anything, so why
wouldn't he be willing? But I was
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very impressed by his mobility, and
I think that was that was Devin Brown's
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big advantage. And if you start
cutting into that advantage, then you see,
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Okay, well Kyle McCord does what
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Brown, and so you can do
some things. Now Devin Brown is still
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a better runner. But do you
need Devin Brown's running or do you need
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a guy that can move the chains
and also has the ability to run.
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So nothing I saw from comm Accord
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it would have been great to see
him perform in a way that is like,
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well, this guy is just different. But I as I think that's
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a testament to Devin Brown. Yeah, Devin Brown, I think you know,
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you came into the spring expecting him
to be the better runner. Calm
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Accord certainly looked like a willing runner, which really that might be all you
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really need out of the quarterback position. You're not looking for calm Accord to
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run for a thousand yards. You're
looking for him to be able to pick
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up a third and three every once
in a while, or everyone's covered on
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second and seven, Great, pick
up three yards and make it third and
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four instead of third and seven or
something like that. And he certainly looked
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more than willing to do that,
and that, you know, maybe that
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cuts into the Devin Brown advantage there
a little bit. So yeah, you
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know, I think I come out
of the spring a little more confident in
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calm Accord being the starter than I
did going in, maybe, like you
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said, maybe more like sixty forty
something like that. But not having the
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opportunity to see Devin Brown in the
spring game, that I think is something
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that will you know, cut cut
down on you know, I think that
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probably keeps it closer to static,
to where we saw it at the beginning
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of the spring than it would have
been. Other one is just because you're
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missing you know, we didn't see
him. We didn't see him in the
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spring game. We saw him pretty
much the rest of the practices before,
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and it seemed again pretty close,
but it seemed like probably a little bit
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of an advantage for Kyle McCord at
that point. And I'm still kind of
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still kind of sticking sticking with that
right now. Brown himself, I mean,
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he was impressive for the most part
this spring. It was again not
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dominant, not incredible, but looked
solid, looked like someone who could you
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know, they can. They can
absolutely win ten games with Devin Brown,
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and you know, potentially more much
more than that, if if it needs
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to, you know, if that's
where it ends up being. This this
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injury doesn't sound like it's going to
be serious. It sounds like you should
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be back to throwing a little bit
later on this summer, well before fall
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camp. You know, if if
Devin Brown is the starter this year,
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what is the ceiling for Ohio States
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a national championship team with Devin Brown? I think so, because he's a
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guy. That's when you get better
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so by the time he's a Renchert
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you're gonna have one of the best
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I'll keep saying if whoever is the
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they've been all Big Ten and so
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with whoever starts here, including Devin
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not only are you starting as Ohio
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Kyle McCord, So you've you've shown
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you can do what the other guy
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a very strong arment and put some
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you can't do during the games is
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that's what costs them in twenty fifteen
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back then they're brot guys, so
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other issue. But once you've won
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actually you have to be yourself to
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show that Kyle McChord does not have
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not more accurate. Like that'll all
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and as we're watching them, you
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that read. And you can watch
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have been the wrong read. You
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incompletion can be graded higher than a
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Where is this supposed to go?
Why did you throw it there?
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And that's all of the stuff behind
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the meetings that we have no idea
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cardinal take that was perfect, but
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like, why didn't you throw it
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there. When you had a guy, they're your first read wide open,
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and so all that comes out,
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into who actually eventually wins. But
Devin Brown, you know, I think
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there's there's plenty of excitement around him. I think that that went away a
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little bit when he got injured,
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They they didn't get to their their
their wish fulfill to see Devin Brown
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running around at a spring game.
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that there hasn't been this, there's
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Colm McCord thing because they people didn't
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really have nothing to go on other
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yeah, I'm sure the coaching staff
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always one that you worry about people
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just one of fifteen practices and just
because it's the only one you get to
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watch doesn't mean it's the only one
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you don't have the wild overreaction to
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in a typical season. It was
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was okay but not great, and
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don't have the will. This guy
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the other guy, so he has
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well, that was one practice.
You can't read too much into it,
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so you avoided that this year,
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of the three guys who were on
campus this spring, the person who maybe
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changed my view of his ceiling the
most is Tristan Jebbia. And I don't
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think Tristan Jeba is probably the kind
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State to a national championship if you
get down to the third string situation like
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they did in twenty fourteen, probably
not. But he looked for a first
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spring in just brand new to the
offense. He had played at Oregon State,
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so he had some you know,
had some experience, but this is
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obviously a brand new offense. Came
in and looked like absolutely, if the
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world blows up and he's your starting
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Ohio State team that can win nine
games, maybe ten games. I mean,
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he looked very solid. He was
impressive. In the spring game.
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He was solid. The rest of
the times we saw him. He came
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in and he looked He looked a
lot like Chris Chugganoff looked at times at
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Ohio State where guy coming in Chrugganov
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experience there wasn't incredible, didn't light
the world on fire. But when you
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put Chris Chugganoff in, it was
like, yeah, it's fine. Everything
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is going to be fine. You're
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but it'll be fine. The world
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Tom Tristan Jebia looks very much like
he's on that kind of path where you
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know, if he if he's starting, that is not a best case scenario
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for Ohio State, but it's also
like, it'll be fine. Yeah,
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this is where the rest of your
talent has to step up and win.
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And Tristan Jeba to Marvin Harrison,
there's still a winning combination. And so
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yeah, I'm the same way.
Where would he rank among all of the
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quarterbacks like him in terms of Gunner
Hope, you know, chugging Off,
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Matt Baldwin, you know guys that
weren't necessarily great to start, but the
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starting experience that he has, I
mean, he's a guy that has beaten
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his rival. He's beaten Oregon,
so that that all matters. And maybe
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it comes with a fifty eight percent
completion percentage, but there will be times
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where it comes with the play being
made. So yeah, I was I
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was impressed and not really expecting to
be impressed by him this spring. Yeah,
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I think he came comes in and
gives them exactly what you would have
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wanted from him as a as a
third string guy. So that's that's good,
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that's exactly what you want. And
then you know he has He came
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in. He didn't come in talking
about like I'm gonna win the starting job.
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He came in talking about he wants
to coach football in the future,
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and this is sort of a pathway
to do that. So you know,
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this is this is a very much
mutually beneficial thing where he's sort of getting
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set up for his future, but
also he gives them just a little bit
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of extra security in the present.
Randy's talking about wanting to have four scholarship
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quarterbacks every year, and this is
this is kind of the way you have
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to do it these days, and
so that that gives him that little extra
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security for ryand and a little bit
of promising future for Tristan Jeba. So
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that fourth Childship quarterback is Lincoln Keenholtz
and Tony. I've got to say my
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impression of Lincoln Keenholtz didn't change one
iota this spring. Maybe that was because
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he wasn't part of the campus,
that wasn't on campus at Ohio State.
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Yet I think he's one of those
guys where you know, athletically he's there.
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You've seen him play basketball, You've
seen him play baseball, You've seen
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him play football, and he looks
like, yeah, that looks like someone
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who should be playing high level Division
one athletics somewhere. But he you know,
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we I don't know quite what to
expect for this year. I don't
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think you're gonna I think Lincoln Keenholets
will redshirt this year is one of the
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safest bets on the Ohio State roster. But you know, I mean,
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I think that's he's certainly someone that
you look at him and it's like,
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yeah, a year or tune from
now, he could absolutely be in the
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starting the starting quarterback battle at Ohio
State. I am not going to put
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that out there that any type of
red shirt not red shirting, because I'm
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not trying to spook the forces on
that one. But he is in terms
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of thoughts or impressions increasing. I
saw a windmill dunk he did on the
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basketball course, so of course I
think more of him now than I did
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before. But this is a guy
and I wrote this a couple days ago,
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maybe on Monday or so, about
how he might be the best overall
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athlete on the team when he arrives, because this is a guy who obviously
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a three time starting quarterback on an
All state team or a state championship team
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at nine thousand yards passing in his
career over three thousand yards brushing, two
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time first team All State basketball,
nineteen point per game score as a baseball
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player, beat a nearly five hundred
as a junior three and O as a
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pitcher with a one point two four
ERA. So like, this is a
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guy who is everybody's All American type
that just does everything good. And I
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assume when he gets to Ohio State, he's probably gonna blow everybody away on
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the Arcade golf course that they've got
there, and you know, whatever else
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needs him South Dakota, So he'll
probably kill everybody in the deer hunting games
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as well. Like he's just everything
he does, he's just good at and
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you know he'll walk in and be
the best barber on the team. It's
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like, how is this even happening? But you know that's also the kind
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of guy you want as your quarterback
as well. And so yeah, I'm
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I'm with you time, like totally
expect him to red shirt. I'm interested
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to see what he could do.
It's too bad that he couldn't get to
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Ohio State in time for spring ball. But of course he's a he's a
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three sport athlete and he that's all
serious to him, and coaches love their
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three sport athletes and they want their
quarterbacks to do all of that. So
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you can't follow him. And as
you said, it's not like they're looking
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to have him do anything this year. So still looking forward to I guess
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seeing him maybe in the spring and
certainly in the spring next year. I
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will he get his four games,
maybe handing the ball off because Devin Brown
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didn't throw a pass as a true
freshman. C J. Stroud, Jack
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Miller didn't throw passes. Kl McCord
three passes because he was in certain but
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that wasn't the only game when he
when he started against Acron any three passes.
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So fifty fifty on whether or not
he'll throw passes this year, I
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guess well, I'd say less than
fifty fifty just because your calm accord in
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his refreshman season was the number two. Lincoln Kingholes is going to be the
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number four, then number four,
you know, even when the number four,
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you know is Queen Ewers. He
didn't throw any passes, So yeah,
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I think it's reasonable to think that
that you're probably not going to see
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much. You know, if he
throws a pass, it'll be two passes
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this year and not thirteen or forty
or whatever. So yeah, I think
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he is a very much a you
know, you're not you don't have to
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come in this is this is the
guy the you know, the little bit
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of a project quarterback would get drafted
by the NFL team with a veteran you
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know, who's who's going to be
able to start one more area. You
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can just sort of sit learn,
take your time, not be rushed out
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in the field. That's probably the
best case scenario for his development is just
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learned the playbook, spend a year
working with Ryan Day and Corey Dennis and
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Todd Fitch and just get up to
speed on things. And then in twenty
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twenty four, when potentially you have
Kyle McCord off to the NFL, then
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there's another starting quarterback battle and then
you can you can get in on that,
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and if you don't win that one, well, then Devin Brown's off
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the NFL in twenty twenty five and
you can get in on the one after
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that with Aaron Nolan. So should
should be a fun summer as we sort
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of try to shake out how this
all is going to resolve itself in terms
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of Kyle McCord versus Devin Brown.
Overall, seems like this is this is
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a position group where you kind of
have to give Ohio State benefit it out
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based on the track record of development
and that the caliber of players they're bringing
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in, you sort of have to
assume it's going to work out because it
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tends to work out for Ohio State
under Ryan Day at that spot. So
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we will continue to keep an eye
on that at Buckehudtle dot com and it'll
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be a lot of stuff to talk
about. There's a bunch of position groups
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we haven't talked about on these positional
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still stuff going on right now potentially
in the transfer portal. Could guys be
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coming in, could guys be going
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strategic about this and start with the
ones. We're pretty confident that the final
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