Brewsers- Jenna Williams

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Welcome to Bruisers, a podcast about beer, coffee, booze, and Bruisers.
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I'm your host, Ray John, and on this very special episode,
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we talk to Jenna Williams. We talk about getting into
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the world of fighting, women's MMA, and so much more.
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She will be fighting Brittany Bickhard tonight for Fury Fighting
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up in North Dakota. You can watch it on the
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UFC Fight Pass, so it's going to be a great
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card and you're not going to want to miss it. So,
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without further ado, here is Jenna Williams. I would like
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to welcome the show with Jenna Williams. How are you
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doing today, ma'am?
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I'm doing good. How are you?
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I'm well. So for those listening, kind of paint us
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a word picture. Where are you at? What's going on
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around you?
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Let's see. So I am currently on base getting ready
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for the fights. We're up here in Minot, North Dakota.
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So I'm currently at a... B50 Brew. I believe it's
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like their one and only coffee shop here. So I'm
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trying to kill time before I have to start my
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water cut later this evening and then weigh in tomorrow morning.
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Oof, gross.
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Yeah.
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Is this your first time in North Dakota?
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It is, yeah. You know, so far, I didn't see
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much of it because I got in late last night
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at about 10. I mean, the sun is shining. The
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air is a little crisp out. We don't get that
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much in Phoenix with the The hot, dry heat. So
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you can kind of probably see some of the leaves
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are already changing here. So it's actually pretty enjoyable so far.
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I was going to say, this is probably the best
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time for you to be up there. Any later in
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the year is like, no, I just, no thanks.
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Yeah. Pull out your, your snow suits and jackets and
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coats and, but yeah, otherwise putting on a sweater, it's
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kind of nice. It's nice change actually.
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There you go. Well, let's go all the way back
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in time. What is your noise? You're good. You're outside.
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You're yeah.
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You're fine.
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Yeah.
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What's your earliest memory of martial arts?
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Oh, goodness. It probably was, let's see, how long ago
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would that be? So it was probably, as far as
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my involvement anyways, probably a little over 10 years ago.
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The reason why I got started was actually a co-worker
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of mine that I had as a personal trainer. He
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did a little bit of fighting back in his day.
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His name is Dan Walsh. He... held pads and mitts
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for some of his clients. And there was kind of
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a weird incident that happened to some females on our
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like inner train system in Portland, Oregon. And it kind
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of struck a chord with me that, you know, as
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strong and able and capable as I thought I was,
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I was like, I don't really know how to fight
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or throw a punch or defend myself. So I had
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bought like a small package of sessions to just learn
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how to like hit and kick with him. And the
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rest is just kind of history kept building from there.
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Well, so I remember hearing in an interview you'd done
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before that you had kind of always been athletic your
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entire life. What are some, what did you kind of
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do when you were growing up?
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Oh man, really anything I could get my hands on. Yeah. Goodness.
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I think my parents started me in soccer when I
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was like three or four years old. So, you know,
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wee little thing just kind of running around, probably not
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doing much in soccer, but got into gymnastics at a
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really young age too. So I feel like, you know,
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the combination of soccer and kicking with like any sort
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of Muay Thai and kickboxing, the gymnastics really helped me
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with wrestling and grappling, you know, Grambys, cartwheels, all that
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sort of stuff really translates well into the sport. So, goodness,
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really basketball, volleyball, football. uh, hockey golf, like the list
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just kind of goes on and on. I, I pretty
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much tried it all.
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There you go. Well, I mean, with the gymnastics too, you're,
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you're learning body control. And so, which is a lot
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of times, a lot of men, women, and once they
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get in the cage, they, you know, they want to,
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everybody wants that highlight reel. Everybody wants the, the dynamic finish,
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but a lot of times you're putting everything into that
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punch or a kick, but then you don't know, Oh wait,
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that maybe they didn't land. And so now I've got
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to control my body and get back.
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Yeah. Absolutely. It really, it definitely, like I said, really
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helped translate into, you know, not only just being an
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athlete my whole life, but also gymnastics. It really does
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give you that awareness on how to move on, how to,
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you know, kind of roll with things, how to land properly. Yeah.
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So it was incredibly beneficial growing up and making that
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transition into martial arts was something that was pretty smooth, uh,
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pretty easy, I guess. I mean, there's always learning and
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there's always improvement. I know my coach will definitely tell
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you that. So, uh, yeah, we're just continuing to get
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better each day.
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Well, so how did the aspect of wanting to learn
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how to defend yourself turn into, you know, maybe I'll
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take a fight or maybe I'll take more than one fight.
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Yeah. Uh, you know, it had a little bit of
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coaxing from, uh, Dan Walsh, my first coach, because as
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I a personal trainer and someone that just is, you know,
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fairly considerate of people in general, it was definitely a
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little bit of a battle in my head of being like, oh,
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you know, like I do this job where I help
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people and I encourage them to be like their best,
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strongest self and, you know, to get in a cage
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and really potentially hurt somebody. It was a bit of
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a conflict for me mentally and internally. So that's where my...
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desire for competition. I've kind of always been an adrenaline
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junkie too, ever since I was little doing one kind
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of extreme sport or another outside of, you know, your
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general sports that are offered in the school system. So, uh, man, I,
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I love a good competition and I, I thrive off
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of it. So it's one of those things that I
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think that was ultimately what pushed me to, to try
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to join. I went to some local fights and in Portland, Oregon,
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and just saw, you know, the, the lights and the
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music and the crowd and the energy of it all.
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And then I got there and I was like, all right,
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like I'll try one fight. Like, let's see how this goes.
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And the one first fight went incredibly well. It was
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a first round TKO and, you know, walked away without
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a scratch or any sort of bruise on me. So
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we just kind of said, all right, well, let's keep
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going and trying this. And Even in some of the
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losses that I've had, I've always been learning experiences. I've
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never really truly been horribly beat. I've had some injuries, sure,
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but I feel pretty resilient when it comes down to it.
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It's really about a mindset and just pushing and driving forward.
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And that's definitely something that I feel like I have.
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I love that. So you're saying with your competitiveness, if
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we were having a game night, we would definitely want
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you on the side.
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Yeah. If you're looking for someone to win that game night,
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that's going to be me for sure.
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Well, so I've heard you say that you don't get
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better by putting yourself in rooms where people are better
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than you don't get better unless you put yourself in
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rooms where people are better than you. What rooms have
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you put in putting yourself in for this fight?
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Uh, goodness, I've been really been doing that a lot
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of my life. You know, I've kind of tried to
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move to bigger and better schools. I've, uh, Moved. I've
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moved a lot in my life, but yeah, recently from.
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Portland down back to Phoenix, Arizona, where I'm actually from,
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but I was getting ready for an amateur title belt fight.
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And that was kind of during the pandemic when everything
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was shut down. my current coach at that time was, uh,
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him and his wife were pregnant with their first child.
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So he was like, Hey, you know, with all the
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scare and everything, like, I can't coach you like to
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be safe. And I was like, fair enough. So we
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kind of, we were trying to look into like maybe
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Thailand to go to, but, uh, Americans still weren't allowed
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over there. So he was like, you know, Arizona is
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really like a Mecca for fighting. Like you should really
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consider that there's, you know, a few, really a handful of,
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of really good fight gyms that are down there. And
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so my parents had actually moved back down there, uh,
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in 2020 as well. So in 2021 is when I was,
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I went down there for the fight camp, um, fought there,
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but it was, you know, you walk into the MMA
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lab and I, I can't imagine that there's, there's one person.
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It doesn't matter if you're already in the UFC that
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walks into that gym and is like, Oh yeah, like
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no problem. I've got this. You walk in and you have,
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Competitors from all over the world that come there to
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train that, you know, have moved and sacrificed and given
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up a lot in their lives just to be in
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that room with that level of competition. Um, with that
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level of coaching is, is really unmatched, you know, hands down,
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we'll say we are the best in the nation. Um, if,
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you know, really contending for a top spot, even in
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the world, like we've just, we've been doing this for
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a long time and they're very disciplined. They're very skilled.
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We show up every day, you know, with little to
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no excuses. Like you just go in and you train.
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And so walking into that room, goodness, I was there
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for about two months. I had two black eyes the
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entire time I was there. And, you know, even on
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like day one or two of being on on the
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fight team, I was like, yep, this is exactly where
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I need to be. Like, if I want to be better,
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you know, you've got to you've got to swim with
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sharks in order to be one. You've got to be
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able to surround yourself with the best. in any industry,
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in any room, if you want to grow and be better.
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So that was where I made probably one of the
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best decisions for not only my career, but also like
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family life to be able to be back in Phoenix.
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So it's 100% been such a blessing and a great
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choice for me to move back down to Phoenix and
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be at that MMA lab.
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How supportive of your parents for this?
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So supportive. They were desperately wanting to be here, actually.
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They've come to most of my fights, whether they most
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of my fights usually end up being not locally and
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they have to travel out of state. But it's a
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it's a very exclusive event going on here. It's mainly
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for military personnel only. We yeah, we only have so
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many corners. We only got two guest passes. And so
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my parents were like, you know what? Like, we'll hang back.
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We're definitely going to watch it on UFC Fight Pass
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and support you there. But yeah, they've always been amazing parents.
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So it's great to have people like that in my corner.
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I love that. Well, for people that don't know, you
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will be fighting at Fury Fighting October 2nd, which this
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is going to come out then, in North Dakota against
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Brittany Bickard. You know, obviously the question that everybody's going
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to ask is, how are you feeling for the fight? And,
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you know, how do you think it's going to go?
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I always hate those questions because you never... like you
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train for it and like you have a game plan,
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but again, it's the whole Mike Tyson. You never, everyone's
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got a game plan to get punched in the face. Totally.
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You never know until you walk into that cage. Absolutely. Because,
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you know, you can get surprised by someone that is,
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you know, even a highly rated underdog. Like we see
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it all the time in this sport where, you know,
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we have major upsets and people are just completely stunned.
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But as far as myself in my regard, this is
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probably one of the hardest camps that I've worked at. Um,
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Spending hours a day, two, three, four times a day sessions,
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like jumping in there and not only working martial arts,
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but strength training, speed training, agility training, making sure that
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I don't have any sort of hindrances as I walk
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into the cage. making sure that I'm calm and collective,
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even just kind of some mindset and like cognitive training
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to just be able to really control the fight that
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way and not be overwhelmed or overanxious. But it's one
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thing that I felt throughout this camp is a lot
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of peace and more excitement. I haven't really felt nerves
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or anxiety at all through this camp. It's just more
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so been like, all right, are we there yet? Like,
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let's get going.
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Yeah. Well, so, you know, we kind of talked about
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how we have weigh-in tomorrow. How are you with weight cuts?
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Usually pretty good. I did struggle a little bit in
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my last fight camp with my water cut. I was
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trying to cut about 30 pounds in 34 days. And
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so it was a little tricky. I had missed weight
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by a couple pounds, but my opponent missed weight by
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like six pounds. So, I mean, we still fought and
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the show went on. Yeah, normally that is not a problem. Again,
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a lot of it is about mindset and making sure
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that I hit my goal no matter what, no matter
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what it takes. But unfortunately, yeah, kind of with like
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my last fight, you know, women compared to men's hormones
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are definitely different. Trying to cut 30 pounds for a
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female is definitely a little tricky. I... Do know that
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field very well coming from being a personal trainer, a
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fitness nutritionist, all these things. So I usually have it
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in the bag, but timing was a little off. But
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this fight, I'm about three pounds off, three and a
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half pounds off currently. So ideally we'll be able to
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do the majority of the water cut tonight. Maybe even
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wake up, float a pound through my sleep and then
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weigh in and rehydrate and gain a bunch of weight
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back to be able to fight Friday.
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I hate to ask and talk about food while you
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are not enjoying the best food, but what is your
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go-to food after a fight?
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Oh, usually try to be carb heavy. Definitely need that
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energy source in order to take me into the fight.
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You ideally try to burn, you know, you go through
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your fat burning first and then once you really get
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into the you know, longer bouts of exercise, cardio training,
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then you start kicking into your carbs, and that's where,
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you know, if you have a high carb source anyways,
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that will really help you. But usually Italian is kind
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of what I try to go to. Initially, when I'm
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still in the event center for the weigh-ins anyways, I will, like,
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bring a bag of, you know, really healthy, really clean stuff, fruits, veggies, clean...
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Ideally kind of vegetarian, maybe just really healthy, you know,
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grass fed stuff anyways, as far as immediate things to
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go into my stomach, lots of water, hydration, uh, good
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sea salts. And then, yeah, later we'll, uh, get out
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to dinner. Sometimes when these weigh-ins are early in the mornings,
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we'll do brunch first, but you know, whatever, whatever time
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of day, whatever comes first, as long as I get
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to eat, I'm happy.
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Well, what about after the fight?
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After the fight, anything goes.
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Okay. We've kind of.
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Been, you know, we deprive ourselves for so long and
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I'm definitely one that really sticks to it that, you know,
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I don't have any sort of cheat meals. I'm not drinking.
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I'm not doing anything that, you know, will hinder my
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performance or, you know, set me back at all as
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far as the weight or the water cut goes. But,
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you know, after the fight, it's, you know, you get
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to indulge a little bit. I'll definitely try to be
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mindful of that because ideally i'm trying to turn around
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and fight again as quickly as possible after this so
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i can get one more fight in before the year
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is up god willing and if i can of course
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get an opponent that's always the tricky thing for female
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fighters but yeah ultimately i mean i've got like a
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list it's gonna be a crazy indulgence so we're uh
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i'm looking forward.
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To that as well i bet there's a lot of
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good meat up there in north dakota.
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Too Yeah, I know. I was actually looking to see
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if there's some like a butcher shop or something here
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and might not because I'm very particular about the meat
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that I eat. I don't really go to grocery stores
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because you just never know what you're going to get.
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So I feel like butcher shops are pretty reliable. So
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I'm going to actually be looking that up here shortly
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and see what we can do for some some good
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quality meat.
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Well, so you touched on earlier about women not being
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able to get a lot of fights. And I remember
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hearing an interview earlier this year where you wanted to
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do at least four fights. And I think that was
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in January. And now we're on your second fight of
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the year.
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Yeah.
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What is it that people aren't seeing when it comes
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to women's MMA? Because I am a huge proponent for
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women's MMA. I think that there's been better women MMA
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fights this year and the past few years than there
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have been for the men, whether they're getting the spotlight
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or not. It's a whole other thing. But you're saying
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that even, you know, obviously on the regional levels, that
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there's just not that many women fighters. Is it that
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they don't want to take these fights or that we're
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not having as much talent out there as we think
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they are?
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Well, I mean, ultimately you come down to, I mean,
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I'm not exactly aware of the statistics of it, but
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I mean, we have maybe about a quarter of the
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number of female fighters that, you know, there are male fighters.
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So that number gets dropped drastically. You then have to
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filter it. You know, are they amateurs? Are they pros?
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Moving past that, we've got weight classes that we have
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to then filter into. Even if you find a pro
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in your weight class, you know, you're not typically going
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to match up a girl that's 2-0 compared to 13-0 or,
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you know, 10-0 sort of thing. So you want to
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try to find somewhere that the skill set and the
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experience is fairly close and Again, that just keeps filtering
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the number down and down and down until you only
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have so many girls to choose from. And even when
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all that lines up, you've got some girls that maybe
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they weren't training for the past six months. Maybe a
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girl got hurt. And for females, maybe someone decided to
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have a child. You never know what... what becomes of it.
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So again, like that filtering process just comes down to
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very smart, small pool for girls and possibilities. So, um, yeah,
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we just, we keep searching. I've literally got a list
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of organizations, a list of like female fighters that I've
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already said yes to. So if they, my organization or
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whoever contacts them and they say yes, it's an automatic
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yes already for me. So yeah, I, uh, I did
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recently just jump on with a management team. I've pretty
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much managed myself. goodness, this whole time leading into this,
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but it's something that I like to have a hand in.
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I'm really organized and I'll do the detective work to
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ideally find that person, but it's kind of like the
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stars all have to line up and make sure that
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it's the right person to actually get this fight.
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No, that makes sense. Well, congratulations on getting the management team.
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Thank you.
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We talked about the women's MMA aspect of it, but
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people don't think about the money aspect of it and
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the sponsorship aspect of it. How has that been for you?
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Because obviously people think, you know, they always see what
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these men and women are making the UFC fights, but
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I'm like, okay, do the backwards math. You got to
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pay the management. You got to pay the gym. You
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got to pay the nutritionist, all the other things. Like
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by the time you get it done, like how much
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do they really get?
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Yeah, I mean, you definitely, again, leading up until this fight,
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I haven't had to worry about management. I don't worry
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about really like fitness coaches or nutritionists. I am that.
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It's a specialty of mine. I've been doing it for
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over a decade. I was raised in a family that
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was very health conscious and very, you know, fitness and
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activity focused as well. So it's one thing that, you know,
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I can kind of do that in my sleep. Thank goodness,
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because that definitely... saves me some money and, you know,
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finances spent. But, um, yeah, as far as the management
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company goes, I think I've really, I've, goodness, I've probably
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been contacted, you know, ever, even into my amateur career of,
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you know, probably about four or five different management companies
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that have wanted to work with me through the years.
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And I've just kind of always said no, um, for
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one reason or another, I don't need to get into that,
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but I just felt like, When I came across Isaac
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with Waverly, the fit was right. You know, he was
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very respectful. He was very humble. He really seemed like
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he was looking out for the fighters and, you know,
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his clients as far as a management company is concerned.
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So I really respected that about him. So that was
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an easy choice for me. Even within like the first
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couple of minutes of talking to him, I could pretty
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much tell that that was the right fit. But, yeah,
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especially at this, you know, a little bit lower level
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when you're not quite in the UFC yet, it's– there's
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a lot of cutting out that goes to, you know,
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your team and your coaches and your management. And if
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you have to, you know, fitness coaches, nutritionists, like all
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the things that you just kind of mentioned. So, yeah,
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we definitely don't get a lot. So that's where the
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sponsorships definitely come into huge play. I have amazing sponsors. Goodness,
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I've had– Especially one sponsor in particular, MyFit Foods. They're
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based in a few different states, Oregon, Colorado, mainly in Houston,
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I believe. Yeah, I think it's Houston, but Texas is
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their headquarters. Mario, the owner of that, has just been amazing.
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He's literally been there for me since day one. No
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questions asked. Always been excited to be in my corner
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and help me out with expenses. I've gotten some newer...
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sponsors over the years that have really just been as
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supportive and has really made this journey a lot easier,
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at least on my bank account. So I can, I
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definitely appreciate that. And, you know, we're always looking for
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more sponsors. So if anyone, you know, really wants to
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help out a female fighter on her way up, you know,
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hit my DMS, you know, reach out to either my
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management company or me, Instagram, whatever, you know, you feel
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like you can get in touch with us. We'll take it. Absolutely.
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I love that. And be respectful if you're going to
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slide into her DMs.
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Yeah, yeah, please.
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I don't want to ask about the DMs and the men,
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but I imagine there's a lot of weird guys out there. Actually,
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I know there's a lot of weird guys out there,
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so we'll just leave it at that.
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Yeah, yeah, totally.
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As much as this is a physical sport, obviously it's
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a mental one as well, where whether you are having
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to go in the deeper rounds for championship fights or
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you don't know what happens to somebody in the locker
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room all the way to the cage or going from
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the hotel to the locker room, or even when it's
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building yourself up and then, you know, kind of bring
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yourself down mentally afterwards because there's a huge rush of adrenaline.
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What do you, what are some of your kind of
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your mental workouts that you like to do?
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Um, that's, Definitely a good question. There's, there's particular ways
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of breathing. There's one in particular called box breathing that
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I really focus on. Um, there's, there's different patterns in which,
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you know, it really helped get oxygen back into the lungs,
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into the heart, everything into the muscle. So your body
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functions correctly. Uh, pass the physicality of it. I mean,
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it really helps you cognitively be able to think clear,
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to be able to recall things, just, you know, be
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able to calm down your central nervous system. So there
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are definitely ways that, you know, I just try to
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sit in, you know, I think about, try not to
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think about the things that could stress me out. I
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focus on my breathing patterns. I try to stay positive,
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you know, joking, laughing with, you know, teammates or coaches, corners,
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whoever I have there at the time. And, Just going
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with that most confidence, you know, whether win or lose,
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I know how much hard work I put into this
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and can still be proud of the work that I've
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done because I know that once I walk into the cage,
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I'm going to leave nothing on the table, like no
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gas left in the tank basically. So I will have
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gone in and done everything ideally that I need to
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in order to, to win.
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I love that. Well, it's about to be holiday time.
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So as a personal trainer, what are little things that
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the normal person can do to kind of keep back the,
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the Hollywood heavy that is going to about to happen?
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Yeah. I mean, you've got Thanksgiving and Christmas all coming
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up new year's Eve. So it's, it's one of those
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where people like to, you know, let loose a little
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bit and indulge. And by all means, you know, that's life. It's,
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it's about a balance, you know, you're going to have
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highs and lows and you've got to, again, with a mindset,
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just be okay with that. Like you're not always going
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to be you know, in fight shape and fight ready,
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you've got to understand that, you know, you know, especially
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for women, like our weight fluctuates, we're supposed to be
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sitting at a higher body fat percentage than men. But
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as far as ways to kind of combat that and
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try to stay at your best physical self, meal prepping
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is always a great thing. You know, whether you do
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it yourself, whether you work through companies to do that,
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kind of being aware of your macros, which are, you know,
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your carbs, your proteins, your fats, One thing that I
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sit down with clients a lot, I think is probably
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for nutrition. One of the biggest things that surprised people
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is their protein intake a day. Um, it's usually a
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lot higher than people expect. So if for a quick example,
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whatever body weight you are trying to be, say, you know,
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you want to be 150 pounds, uh, whether, you know,
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you're dropping that or gaining that ideally you need about
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150 grams of protein a day. So, your ratio should
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be about one to one as far as your weight
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to your grams of protein in a day. And if
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you're not eating that, you are going to deplete your
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muscle mass. You're going to have a higher body fat percentage.
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And then, you know, once you kind of get that
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switched and you're able to have a higher muscle mass
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percentage and lean muscle mass, it's nice, you know, because
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it's easier to maintain. Your body has, for your metabolism,
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runs faster and runs higher. So that way, you know,
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you burn fat easier. easier, quicker than if you were
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to have less muscle mass. Um, muscle mass is really just,
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you know, such a driver for longevity for male or female,
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you know, no matter what age it's, you know, it's
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such a prime indication of good health. So the more
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muscle mass you can have on your body, honestly, the
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better health easily that I would say anybody would be. So, yeah,
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I mean, as long as you can kind of watch
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your protein intake, meal prepping is always convenient. It's going
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to definitely help having a great support system too, you know,
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surrounding yourself with people that are like-minded, whether it's family
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or friends, coworkers, et cetera. You know, if you, my
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dad always used to tell me, you know, if you
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hang out with bank robbers, you're going to turn into
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a bank robber sort of thing. So, you know, that
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goes for a lot of different, you know, aspects in life,
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you know, whether you want to, you know, be in
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the best shape possible, whether you want to, move forward
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with your career. We were just, you know, talking about
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getting in those rooms of people that are better than you.
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You know, if you want to be better than yourself,
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then find those people that can help you along the
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way that will be a good support system. And no
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doubt you'll reach your goals as long as you stick
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with it.
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That's awesome. I love that. Well, I have a segment
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on the show. I call it the five counts, just
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five random questions.
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Okay.
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Number one, what is the last three things you Googled?
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Last three things I Googled. That's a good question. I
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think a lot of it probably had to do with
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the Air Force base. I was like, okay, what restaurants
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are on base that I can eat at? Where's the
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butcher shop and why not? I think a lot of
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it was based around food. So a lot of food
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that I definitely Googled last. Oh, we had one of
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my teammates fought in the Dana White Contender Series. Unfortunately,
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it didn't go our way and get the contract, but
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definitely was looking up recent fights and stuff like that too.
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That's awesome. I've seen multiple people get on there multiple
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times and they end up getting it. So, yeah. Yeah.
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Number two, if you owned a liquor company, brewery, winery,
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coffee shop or dispensary, which one would you own and
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what would the name be?
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Oh, that's a good question. Uh, you know, I'd probably
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go with coffee. It's something that even, even today as
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I'm focusing on my weight and my water cut, um,
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coffee is something like for me personally, it's like an
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everyday thing. Um, I think, you know, maybe a vineyard
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or a winery would be probably a little bit more
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lucrative than a coffee shop, but I mean, as far
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as like necessities and what I would probably consume every
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day and, and really appreciate would be a coffee shop.
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What would the name be?
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Ooh, that's a good question. Uh, coffee shop names. I'd
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have to think about that. Uh, you know, maybe something
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about just like kind of keeping people going, maybe something
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to do with fitness or fighting too, but yeah. Okay.
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Uh, number three, who was your first celebrity crush?
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Oh, man. Way back in the day. You know, shoot,
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I might age myself a little bit. But I think
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back in the day, I can't remember if he was
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on like Full House as like a guest host. appearance
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but Jonathan Taylor Thomas when I was really oh well
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he was definitely.
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A heartthrob so yeah he was on Home Improvement with
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the Tim Allen show.
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Yeah he was on Home Improvement but I think I
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loved watching Full House and I think he was like
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a guest appearance on on like an episode or two
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so yeah Jonathan Taylor Thomas was probably one of my first.
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I will look that up while you answer this next
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question which is who or what.
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Inspires you Who inspires me? Honestly, my parents have been
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such a huge inspiration, particularly my dad. He's, I think,
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really set my mindset as far as, you know, of resilience,
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of hard work, of, you know, doing things that are for, like,
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the better good, whether it's for your family, whether it's
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for yourself, even if you don't like to, even if
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it's hard, even if it's grueling. He's always been... such
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a role model and inspiration for me. And he's been
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able to do it by still being there for both
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me and my older sister, being there for my mother,
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his wife. You know, he's been such an amazing man
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and been such an inspiration, I think, you know, for
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any man like to really, you know, have a family
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and be a provider and, you know, a businessman. So
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I would say definitely he's been a huge influence on
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how I live my life and how my mindset is.
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That's awesome. I love that. So I'm not seeing him
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on Full House. However, he was on Living Color for
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an episode.
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Living Color. OK, interesting.
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Which is not something that I thought I was going
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to ever find out. So I'm going to figure out
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how to find that episode.
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Yeah, right. I definitely had a few different celebrity crushes
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along the way. But I think as far as the
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first one, when I was really young, if my memory
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serves right, was was him.
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Oh, yeah, he was all over the Tiger Beat.
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Yeah, right. Yeah, that was it. Those heartthrob magazines, those
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little ones, that's funny.
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So kids back in the day, there used to be
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things called magazines. Yeah.
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Seriously.
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And then number five, what would you tell your 17-year-old self?
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Oh, man, 17, where was I? Goodness, high school. I
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was honestly probably going through one of my first ACL tears.
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There was a lot that stripped me back.
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What's that?
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How many have you had?
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Two, unfortunately. Yeah, I had one when I was, goodness,
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I think I was just barely 17 in my senior
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year of high school. It was a big soccer collision
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that had happened. And then my second one was back
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in 2021 from fighting. But yeah, it was, I think
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17 was kind of a rough year. I had a
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pretty good high school. I know some people are like, oh,
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I hated high school. It was terrible, this and that.
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I had pretty good high school years, honestly. But I think, unfortunately,
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my senior year was a little bit of a downer
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for me just because I started off my senior year
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getting my ACL torn in the fall season of playing soccer.
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So it was definitely a battle and a struggle getting
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through that. You know, not only physically it was painful,
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but also just mentally. I was supposed to go play soccer, actually,
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for Northern Arizona University. And that kind of all got
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dashed when they found out that I got hurt. So
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unfortunately we, uh, sorry, there we go. Um, but yeah,
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unfortunately it was, you know, I, I had changed paths.
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I didn't end up going to play soccer for college.
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I had actually gone up to Boise state where my
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sister was and wanted just to be around family. But yeah,
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I think what I would tell my 17 year old
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self is, is, you know, any bit of pain or
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any like negative experience that you're, you're going through in life. It's,
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it's a short fraction of time in your life here.
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Your time is, and on this earth, ideally is, you know,
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a long one. So you have the ability to, to
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change that outcome. You have the ability mentally to, you know,
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as long as you just realize that this too shall
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pass sort of thing. You know, you can keep going.
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You are, you can predict what happens in your life.
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You know, whatever comes to you, you can choose how
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you want to react to that, your mindset and everything
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like that. Even if it's a negative experience, you know,
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you try to find the good in it. You try
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to find the positive. And so that's what I think
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I would tell myself is to not let this deter me,
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like not let this get me down, stay positive and
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keep pushing forward.
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That's perfect. I love that.
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Yeah.
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Well, if people want to find out more about you,
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obviously support you in any way, follow you online, watch
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00:35:01.579 --> 00:35:02.880
your fights. How can they do all the things?
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Yeah, I think probably the main thing that I keep
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up with social media-wise is my Instagram. That's JennaWilliams underscore CPT.
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I've got a TikTok that I don't mess with too much,
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a YouTube that I don't mess with too much. I
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think I have a Facebook account still active. It looks
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like I'm on that, but honestly, my Instagram and my
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Facebook are linked. So if I post something on Instagram,
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it just automatically goes to my Facebook. But the easiest
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way to probably communicate and catch up on what I'm
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up to is probably my Instagram.
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There we go. And again, watch her fight tonight. Fury fighting.
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She's going to be in North Dakota. I've enjoyed this
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so much, and I can't wait to have you back
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in the future.
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Yeah, thank you so much. I appreciate it.
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Thank you so much, Jenna, for being on the show. Again,
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she will be fighting Brittany Bickhart tonight in North Dakota
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for Fury Fighting. You can check it out on the
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UFC Fight Pass. It's going to be an amazing fight card,
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so you're going to have a lot of fun with
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that one. And then also, we have UFC tomorrow night.
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So it's a great weekend for MMA in general, so
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obviously make sure to support her in any way you can.
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Go follow her on social media. Obviously on Instagram, where
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she is far more active, so While you're following her
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on social media, obviously go and follow us on social media.
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It is BruisersPod. That is B-R-E-W-S-E-R-S-B-O-D on the Instagram, the threads,
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and the Twitter. If you want to send us an email,
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it is BruisersPod at gmail.com. If you want to follow
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00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:45.420
me directly, it is RodyJohn. That is R-O-D-I-E-J-O-N. RodyJohn is
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the name on the Twitter and on untapped. In case
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you want to find out what I'm drinking, maybe we
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can have a beer together. If you want to follow
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me on the threads or the Instagram, it is OfficialRodyJohn.
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So until next time, make sure to enjoy life, drink local,
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and cheers.