Brewsers #305- Harry Slash

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We welcome to the Bruisers podcastbed Beer, Coffee, Booze and Bruisers.
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I am your host, Roy John and today we talked
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to Harry Slash. We talk about music, E CW and
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so much more. Harry Slash and the Slash Tones are
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releasing Christmas Music on November fourteenth. It is a three
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song EP with all Christmas music and as you'll hear
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in this interview, there are something very special about this
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musical collection. So you don't want to hear from me,
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you want to hear from him. So without further ado,
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here is Harry Slash.
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Like to welcome to show. Harry Slash. How are you
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doing tonight, sir?
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What's up man? Good? I'm sorry? I love you. Start
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that over? What's up man? Thank you for having me on.
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Thank you for being here. So for those listening kind
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of paints and word picture, where are you at? What's
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going on around you?
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I'm in New York. I have only gotten two hours
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sleep and I'm in New York.
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Which bird are you in?
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I'm in Queens?
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Okay? Have you always lived in Queens?
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For? I was born here, I've lived here for most
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of my life. I have lived other places like California
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and Westchester and Bronx and Brooklyn and Manhattan. You know,
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I've bounced around, but somehow I always end up back
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in Queens.
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What is it? Because I've I've visited New York multiple times,
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I'm always curious as much as I always say I
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would never live there just because well, first off, I
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don't like the cold, so that definitely wouldn't work out
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for me. But it just it's almost a too busyness
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for me. But also like on the other side, my
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fomo would be like, there's always something happening. You could
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literally walk to almost all these different things in your area.
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But like, I don't know, for you, what has always
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been kind of the draw for coming back, Like you said,
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either to Queens or New York and story itself.
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Well, I spent a great deal of time in the
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late eighties and nineties in Manhattan when I was working
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in the nightclub world. Oh yeah, Manhattan runs twenty four
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hours a day, seven days a week, but living in
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Queens was a great It was like twenty minutes later
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and I would be in a different planet where there
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would be peace and quiet and a little more stability.
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Interesting, Yeah, Manhattan Back in the eighties and early nineties
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was completely different Manhattan than what is happening right now.
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Oh, absolutely, right now. Tourist section. Yeah, when I my
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Manhattan included peep shows on forty second Street and the
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Lower East Side was like the wild West. Yeah, and
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you didn't travel beyond Avenue B unless you were you
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were packing packing a gun, you know, or had some
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weapon of some sort because it was no man's land.
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And now you can't even afford the rents on Avenue
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D and forty second Street is now Disneyland.
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Yeah, exactly what was the music scene like back then,
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because obviously you had what CBGB's Studio fifty four, which
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was you know, his own little Animal, and then like
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there was obviously all these other tiny little uh con
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clubs and everything. What was the whole music scene like
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back in the day.
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It was. It was phenomenal. Absolutely. I got to see
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Nirvana before their first record came out. I got to
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see Alice and Chains at the Cat Club. You know
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New York City music scene. The hub would have been
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a club called the Scrap Bar, which was featured on MTV,
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where every major act touring through New York had to
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go to the Scrap Bar, which was a little hole
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in the wall dive on I think it was on
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Bleaker Street or McDougall Street, one of those. It's been
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a while, so, you know, Scrap Bar was the hub.
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Limelight was the mecca.
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How many people feeding there?
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You think? Sorry, how many people you think fitting there?
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And the Scrap or the Limelight both scrap On a
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given night you could have three to four hundred, but
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the capacity was the capacity was probably like one hundred.
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You know, it would be packed wall to wall, you know,
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every single night with metal heads, alternatives, rockers, you know, bikers.
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You know, that whole vibe was there. Limelight again, depending
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on the night. I don't know what the legal capacity is,
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but on an average night, there would be about five
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thousand people in and out of the club at any
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not at the same.
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Time, right, but just rotating throughout the night.
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Yeah, Like when Guns n' Roses played there, they were
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sold out. When Pearl Jam played there, sold out to capacity.
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You know, it was just it had a vibe of
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its own. And then we had a couple of mayors
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that decided to kill the life blood and the heart
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and soul of Manhattan. You know, it started with Rudy
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Giuliani and carried over to Mike Bloomberg and they basically
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killed the music scene in New York.
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Wow.
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You know, I had my club on Third Avenue between
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twelve and thirteen Street, and I didn't put my first
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band on until ten o'clock and the last band would
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go on around three o'clock in the morning. Right now,
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by midnight, clubs are closing up for the night. Yeah,
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you know, it's they've turned it into a different world.
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They've they've turned it into well by some some some
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of it is good, right, whereas like you know, families
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can go to Times Square and forty second Street and
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take pictures of people dressed like Spider Man and Bozo
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the Clown and stuff like that. But the dirty soul
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of New York.
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Is gone, right.
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You know, the whole CBGB's if it opened today, it
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would close in a couple of months because they that
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vibe would not exist, right.
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Yeah. I watched a movie about tv GB. It may
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have been called tv GB, and I was I didn't realize,
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Oh what's his fucking name? He was in Dogma anyway?
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Uh, Yes, the guy who played Hilly Crystal, whose name
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I'm also forgetting.
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Yeah, the bad guy from uh Diehard or a good
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guy depending on how you look at it. Uh. Anyway, yes,
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he was the he was the main guy. That movie
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was fantastic And obviously it's not a documentary or anything,
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but it is kind of hitting the high points. Is
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kind of what was going on for that place. And
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you know, from what I hear, all that stuff was
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taken down and then moved all to Vegas. I think
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some of it might be in Seattle too, So.
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Yeah, there's people have bought parts of the wall.
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Yeah, and what have you now?
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The movie Alan Reichman, that's it.
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Yes, thank you.
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It took me a moment. The movie was loosely based
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on a true story, right and as a New Yorker
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with a lot of friends that played CBGB's during the heyday,
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like the Dictators and the Ramones and Blondie. A lot
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of people hated the movie because it wasn't a word
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for word documentary style as it happened, But the filmmakers
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had to make it for everybody on the planet, not
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just the people on the Lower East Side. Yep, you know,
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so there was a lot of poetic license taken with
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the movie. I personally enjoyed the movie.
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Yeah, and I.
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Know younger kids, the gen zers that got turned on
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to bands from watching that movie that never would have
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heard of the Dead Boys or Talking Heads or Digging Pop.
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Right, or maybe even Blondie, which is kind of insane
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to think about. Yeah it is, you know, but yeah,
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I mean we're seeing that with so many other music
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movies now that where they are kind of just hitting
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kind of the high points or whatever, but they're kind
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of telling the overall story. Because again, you can get
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really into the weeds about a lot of stuff when
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it comes to even Queen or Bob Dylan or now
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this new Bruce Springsteen movies, or like even the CBG wing.
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But let somebody else do that documentary about CBGB's and
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you know, if it gets you interested in it, and
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then you start, like you said, finding all these new
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bands that have been around forever, then you know, that's
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always a good thing. And then if they really want
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to go deep diving, they can go deep dive even
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more because obviously we have access to everything in our
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hands at all times.
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So yeah, you know, when somebody makes a movie like
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the Ray Charles movie, Ray, which was.
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Jamie Farr, Jamie Jamie Fox.
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I'm sorry, Jamie Fox. Jamie Farr is the guy from
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Mesh a dude, I apologize to your audience. I've only
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gotten a couple hours sleep. But uh so, Jamie Jamie Fox.
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And Ray Charles was very hands on and he made
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sure that if you're going to tell the good story,
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you're gonna tell the bad story. So there was a
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lot of things that you wouldn't expect to have been
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in the Ray movie. But Ray Charles himself insisted, it's like, no,
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I was a prick, you know, so I want you
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to show that the movie about Johnny Cash with Joaquin Phoenix.
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Loved the movie mostly a true story, you know, but
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you have to take poetic license. You you can't make
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a motion picture on a living sum object only to
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appeal to the people.
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That know the facts.
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You need to appeal to a broader audience. And you know,
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if people are suddenly discovering the movie of the music
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of Johnny Cash through the Joaquin Phoenix movie, maybe they'll
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find out and they'll do their research and find out
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the true story behind everything you know that they showed
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in the movie.
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Yeah, no, without a doubt. Well, let's go all the
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way back in time of fast What is your earliest
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memory of wrestling? Sorry, of music. I'll talk about wrestling later.
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My earliest memory of music was probably as a child.
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When as I was growing up, my father, one of
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the jobs he had was to change the forty fives,
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the vinyl forty fives and jukeboxes.
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That's cool.
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So my father, being a hoarder, everybody else that did
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that job through the forty five's away, my father kept them.
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Wow.
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So from very young age, I had a like stacks
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and crates filled with singles from a huge variety of music,
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everything from like Celtic to Bing Crosby to the Doors
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to early Jimmy Hendrix that you know. At like five
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years old, I would just go down into the garage
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and grab a stack of forty fives and I put
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them on my little plastic one piece record player where
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the lid flipped open and the speaker was in the lid.
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You know, this little piece of junk that they used
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to buy all the little kids to play their music.
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So while my friends were listening to like Sesame Street
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and the Partridge Family, I was listening to like Louis Armstrong,
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and Jimmy Duranty and The Doors and stuff like that.
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Man, what so you never really got the album art though,
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you just got the music itself.
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No, because you also had promotional records, okay, like when
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he would go pick up the latest forty fives occasionally
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he would, you know, they'd give out the promotional use
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only albums. So I have the Doors, absolutely Live, the
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Best of Love, I think, the first Simon and Garfunkel record,
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and a few others that my father kept because he
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never threw anything away.
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Right, what are the I mean, have you looked to
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see how much does it worth? Now?
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Honestly no, I haven't even thought about that.
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Okay, not that obviously you're trying to, but just just
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kind of have a reference.
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Really my first album or maybe like the second or
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third album that I bought when I think I was
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like five years old or six years old. My older
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cousins were going to a record store, you know, probably
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looking for the latest brit pop beatles type of thing,
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and I had my birthday money and at the time
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I was fascinated by the film footage of the Hindenburg.
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Oh it had shown. They'd showed that quite often on PBS. Right, okay,
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And I saw the Hindenburg on an album cover. I
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didn't bother to read the text on the front, nor
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did I flip over the back. I just took the
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album cover to the cashier and I pulled out my
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five dollar bill for my birthday money, and I ended
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up buying led Zeppelin one, and I went home and
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I put it on my plastic record player, expecting to
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hear and all the humanity, the humanity, it's burst into flames,
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and instead I'm listening to good times, bad times, the
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days and confused, and I'm like, this ain't the Hindenburg,
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but this is pretty badass.
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I like this. Yeah. I recently went through I think
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the first three led Zeppelin albums again and I was like, man,
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these are just they hold up and they're just insane.
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The sick part is led Zeppelin one was recorded in
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less than twenty four hours on like an eight track
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or something like that, right, you know, and fifty years
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later it sounds like something that was recorded yesterday and
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pro tools, right.
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I mean, you can do the same thing with most
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of the Beatles album as well, Like those are just
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they weren't obviously recorded in that quick of time. But
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the amount of albums they put out in that shorter period,
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they just showed that they lived either on the road
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or in a studio, and it was just, yeah, that
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was it.
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I'm not the biggest early Beatles fan, Okay, makes sense.
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I really prefer the Beatles after they started smoking pot.
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And dropping that. Yep, lokay.
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The post Revolver Beatles and the pre Revolver Beatles, in
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my opinion, or two different bands. Yeah, the early Beatles
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were a boy band. Yeah, without it, they were the
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n Sync, the the Backstreet Boys, the Backstreet Boys of
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their era, and then they turned into the Pink Floyd
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psychedelic What the hell am I listening to of the
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later half of their career, where it's absolutely brilliant some
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of the things they did well.
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I mean, there is that little bit of comparison because
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I believe that they were I think they said their
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actual competitors were the Beach Boys, and the Beach Boys
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you could do the same thing where they were just
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doing that that boy band kind of, but it was
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on the California side and so it was all surfery.
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And then once they started smoking weed and doing acid,
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then you get pet sounds and all these other stuff.
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chains changes and like five timing changes. It's like like
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somebody dropped something to create. Like Ryan Wilson was smoking
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some really good stuff when he came up with that one. Yeah,
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and god, God only knows is another one that when
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I hear and I'm like, I don't get it. I
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don't understand how a human being could create this. It's
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just Brendant, you know, but most people know them from
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surfing USA, and you know, you know all their surf rock,
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you know, California boy band music. And then much like
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the Beatles, somebody said, here, smoke this, and they're like,
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oh wow, a hole new universe is opened up for us.
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Yeah. Yeah, your brain just breaks and you're like, whoa,
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everything's everywhere. This is the best I get it. I
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smoke weed too, It's great.
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I used to. Now I do. I smoke on occasion,
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but I really like my gummies.
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Gummies are fantastic.
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Yeah, you know, for pain, for for physical ailments, for
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medicinal purposes.
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Gummies are great.
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And if you just want to get zonked out and
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listen to Leonard Cohen, smoking weed is great.
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Exactly, well, when did you start actually playing music yourself?
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Though I would to narrow down the actual year would
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be difficult. I would say middle school, where I bought
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a drum kit at a garage sale. We're talking about
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like a four piece, a symbol snare kick drum. I
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think it had a tom okay, and with some other
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kids in the neighborhood, we formed a band. And I
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had no idea about anything to do with music. All
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I knew was I bought a drum kit. So for
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one summer we rehearsed five songs where I learned how
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to count to four, you know, kick snare, snare, symbol
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kick snare, snare, tom. It didn't matter what drums were
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played on the original song. All I could do was
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count to four. And we were given the opportunit tunity
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to play on a Sunday afternoon in front of a
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lot of alcohol of drunks at a local bar called
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Cheers Pub, which was near my house. I don't even
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remember what songs we played. I was the youngest guy
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in the band. I could count to four, that's all
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that mattered. And then I realized I'm not a drummer.
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It takes a special mindset to be able to do
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something completely different with both hands and both feet at
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the same time. So I did something radical. I sold
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the garbage drum kit. I think I bought it for
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five and sold it for six, you.
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Know, so I'm like that.
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It was a toy. And I bought an acoustic guitar
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and actually started taking guitar lessons. And that would have
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been right before high school, like eighth grade or something
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like that, seventh grade. And then I just kept taking
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guitar lessons, and then I played in some punk bands
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in the early eighties. But in all honesty, on my
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best day, I was a mediocre guitar player, great songwriter,
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mediocre guitar player. That's why every time I've done anything,
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I've always brought in better guitar players. I can write
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the part, I can tell you what to play. I
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just can't play it myself.
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Okay, there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, you know that.
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It's obviously it worked out well for you.
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And as life went further on, I did some serious
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damage to my left hand, broke a couple of fingers
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a couple of times. They never healed right. I was
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in a fight where a guy stabbed me in the
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upper forearm and then muscle over here and it cut
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one of the tendons or whatever the things you're called.
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So I got two fingers that are constantly shaking and
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don't go where I tell them to go, right, you know.
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So I can still form a C chord or a
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G chord, but sometimes I have to use my right
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hand to put the finger on the actual threatboard, right. Yeah, yeah,
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it is what it is, man.
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Yeah, that's life and you're just you're still making your
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way through it. So that's good. Yeah. Yeah, Well how
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did you eventually start forming Harry and the Hairytes Harry
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and the slash Tes.
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Okay, that was I was a club promoter at the time.
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It had been several years since I was in my
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last band, maybe eight nine years, and at the time,
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club promoters would exploit their birthday like it was a
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religious holiday.
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I've seen many places like that, yes, to.
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Get people in the club, and I was always kind
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of like left field, off center, and I'm like, all right,
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for my birthday, I'm going to put a band together
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as a joke. We're going to advertise it as the
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first and last appearance of Harry Slash and the Slash
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Tones or Harry and the Slash Tones, and we rehearsed
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some songs, a couple of which were funny. I sang
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the words to Green Acres over Purple Haze, I sang
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the words to the Beverly HILLBILLIESE over mcgilla Gorilla. And
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we did the first and last appearance so I could
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exploit my birthday get people in the club. And then
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about a year later, a friend of mine, another promoter,
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said why don't you do another Slashtone show for your birthday,
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only this time do it at my club so you
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can bring me five hundred people. So we did it
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for a second time, and then the next thing I
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know is people wanted to pay us to perform because
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by the third show it had become ninety minutes of comedy.
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All the songs were sitcom lyrics over classic rock songs,
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or like strange bizarre things like a polka version of
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Stairway Heaven, I like that, a heavy metal version of
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I Will Survive by Gloria Gaynor. You know. So we
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just did trippy shit to amuse ourselves. But musically it
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was kind of like Frank Zappa ish, because like the
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arrangements like all right. In one song, which we called
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Welcome to the Family, it starts off as started off
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as Welcome to the Jungle with the words to the
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Adams Family. The break became a reggae version of the
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Munsters theme back into Welcome to the Jungle with the
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final verse of the Adams Family. Right, okay, And we
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just kept coming up with like crazy crazy. We were
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doing mashups before mashups existed. Love and that lasted for
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several years. And you know, I at one point, I
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every time I broke up the band, something else would
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happen that would make me put it back together again.
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So it was the university and like, no, you're not
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done with this yet, keep going.
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They basically yeah, I had retired and said I'm done
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with this. I'd started a legitimate business. And then my
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friend Paul Hayman called me up and said I need
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music for a WWF crossover at the Manhattan Center. Oh
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that was like February of ninety seven, So all right,
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I guess I'm doing this again.
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How did you meet it? How did you initially meet
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Paul Hayman? Obviously guys were in New York together, but
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obviously that's a massive place.
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Through the clubs. I literally met him waiting online to
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use the bathroom at the China Club at a time
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when I wasn't watching wrestling right and I had no
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idea what he did for a living, and we just
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became friends.
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Was he where was he in that point in wrestling?
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He was Polly dangerously Dangerous alliance w.
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C I was here, say there's WCW days or not?
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Okay, it was his tail end at the wcwdas.
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Wow, so went so okay. So then let's go back
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in time. What is your earliest memory of pro wrestling?
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I think it was flipping through the channels, and I
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think it was a promo by Dean Hoe and Tony Geria. Wow,
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early seventies. Yeah, and all right, this is interesting. And
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then the next time I was flipping through the channels,
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I found Bruno San Martino and that's it. I was
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sucked in lockstock and barrel. Okay, Bruno was wrestling some
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lower card enhancement guy for their TV show. It could
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have been Johnny Rods or Baron mcguel, Secluna or somebody
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like that. And then this dignified Italian champion did an
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interview where suddenly I'm like, Okay, I want to watch
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this again next time it's on And along the way
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on a Tuesday night at eleven o'clock on a Spanish station,
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I found Championship Wrestling from Florida, Oh shit, with a
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guy named Dusty Road. And at that point I was
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about as hooked as hooked can be. And this was
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I was still in middle school at the time. But
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Dusty and Bruno they became my childhood idols.
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Did you get a chance to meet either one of them.
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Both of them? I got to work with Dusty when
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he was in ECW a little bit, yeah, And I
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had several interactions with Bruno over the years over various things. Wow,
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you know, but you know, Bruno for me, he was
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like a god. So even like when he called my house,
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you know, a couple of guys were using his name
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to promote a wrestling federation that was supposed to tour China,
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and I got a funny feeling about these two guys,
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Lenny and Stu, so I called up Georgianne Micropolish. You know,
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she's no longer with us. She was like very close
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to Bruno and she used to write for a lot
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of the dirt sheets as they call them. And then
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she had articles on the website and I called Georgiane
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and I told her about it, and she's like, oh, man,
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I had a bad feeling about those guys. And the
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next thing I know, Georgiane calls me back says, Bruno
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would like to talk to you. Would you mind if
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I gave him your number? And me I turned into
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a child. I'm like, oh my god, absolutely, And I
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got to spend an hour, maybe an hour or more
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on the phone with Bruno San Martino, you know, first
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talking about the scammers that you know, tried to use
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his good name, and then just talking. You know, he
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told me the story about his mother going up up
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Villa Roca on the mountain and climbing. So I got
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a live shoot interview from Bruno hearing all the stories
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from Italy in the early days of WWWWWW, you know
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when Vincenior owned it, and I got for me that
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was like, that's like one of the highlights of my
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life is I'm the man that got a phone call
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from Bruno San Martino.
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Yeah, like you said your childhood idol, Yeah yeah.
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And then like in E. C W I didn't know
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anybody in there when I first, you know, came aboard
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because I wasn't watching wrestling.
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I knew very.
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Little about anybody. And then Terry Funk came back into
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the company and for me, for me, you know, I'm
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there with Taz and the Dudleys and Shane Douglas and
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all these guys that are stars, but to me, they
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were just guys. And then Terry Funk is coming back
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in to work something, work a program with Brian Lee
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or something, and to head for the title run. And
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I'm like, oh my god, Terry Funk, He's a real wrestler,
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you know. Not to say the Taz and them weren't,
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but for me, they were just they were just guys
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in some little indie fed that my friend Paul was running.
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Terry Funk was a legit star. He was the former
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n WA champion yep. And then when I found out
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Dusty was coming.
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In, oh man, I.
485
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:24.920
Turned it. Every time I was around him, I was
486
00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:26.400
like starstruck child.
487
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:26.960
Yeah.
488
00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:30.119
The only two people in ECW that did that to
489
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:32.599
me were Dusty and Funked. I mean, it makes sense,
490
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:37.759
you know, but Terry was Terry. Eventually, I chilled out
491
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:39.599
a little bit and was able to talk to him,
492
00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:43.519
you know, and he was a very funny dude. And
493
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:46.160
I'm really, really glad I got to spend some time
494
00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:47.839
with him while he was here on Earth.
495
00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:51.119
Yeah. I was gonna say, how many times did it
496
00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:53.119
take for you to be around him before you're like, Okay,
497
00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:56.240
I'm human, he's human if he just gone down a bit.
498
00:28:56.960 --> 00:28:59.279
The first time he was there and I was in
499
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:02.440
the locker room, I asked Paul to introduce me, and
500
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:07.079
he goes, go introduce yourself, and I kept walking towards him,
501
00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:09.119
and then I would chicken out at the last minute,
502
00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:13.319
and then like a few minutes before the show started,
503
00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:16.119
he tapped me on the shoulder and he goes, excuse me,
504
00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:21.519
we haven't been introduced. My name is Terry Funk, and
505
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:27.240
my eyes are like wide open, ha ha ha. I'm Harry, Hi, Harry.
506
00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:30.400
It's a pleasure to meet you. What do you do here?
507
00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:34.039
And I'm like, well, I do a little bit of everything,
508
00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:36.680
just not wrestling, and he started laughing and he goes,
509
00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:40.000
me too, I do a little bit of everything too,
510
00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:47.160
just not wrestling. And then post ecw every time I
511
00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:49.920
saw him, i'd get the big hug and the big
512
00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:54.359
Texas handshake, and you know, I miss him. I wish
513
00:29:54.440 --> 00:29:56.599
I wish he was still with us.
514
00:29:57.440 --> 00:29:59.200
He was definitely one of those guys. I never thought
515
00:29:59.200 --> 00:29:59.960
it was going to be gone.
516
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:02.799
Like I just thought Terry Funk would live forever like
517
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:03.920
Saboo dude.
518
00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:06.720
Yeah, I mean I was at that last match in
519
00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:11.240
in Vegas and I was, you know, not even a
520
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:12.960
week later, it's like he's gone. I was like, what
521
00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:14.440
the fuck? I just saw him?
522
00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:18.920
I know, I know, man. You know, like I used
523
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.000
to joke around with Sabou, wouldn't say that he's going
524
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:25.640
to end up like the car from Blues Brothers that
525
00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:28.119
one day somebody was going to pull a string off
526
00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:29.880
his turban and his spine.
527
00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:32.079
Would fall out, right, you know, he would.
528
00:30:31.960 --> 00:30:35.000
Just collapse and he's like, fuck you, I'm sorry, Can
529
00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:35.440
I curse?
530
00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:36.680
Yes? Without a depth?
531
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:43.400
You know. Okay, So I never ever expected sab Boo
532
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:43.759
to go.
533
00:30:43.920 --> 00:30:47.400
That young, right, yeah, very young for hit for I mean,
534
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:50.279
obviously his body went through so much, but I thought
535
00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:51.519
he was going to live much longer too.
536
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:54.640
Yeah, And I don't think we have the cause of
537
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:55.759
death yet.
538
00:30:56.039 --> 00:31:00.839
That is the weird considering we how far eight months later.
539
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:06.559
Well, from what I was told he and told me
540
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:12.920
Mebo is his Japanese wife never actually got divorced, and
541
00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:18.839
only she can sign off on making the coroner's report public.
542
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:23.519
But I believe that after one year, if she doesn't
543
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:27.119
do anything, the rights will revert to his next of kin,
544
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:28.880
which would be his sister Paula.
545
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:30.400
Right, huh.
546
00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:33.920
You know it would be nice to have closure as
547
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:37.480
to why he's no longer with us, but it's not
548
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:38.279
going to bring him.
549
00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:41.359
Back, That's true. Yeah, No matter what it is, it's
550
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:43.720
not going to make him have another day on this earth.
551
00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:46.960
No, No, I mean honestly, I always thought I would
552
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:50.000
see him at least one more In time, I couldn't
553
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:55.279
get out to Vegas, And ironically, I was working on
554
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:58.960
an updated version of Who Could Lose His theme song,
555
00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:03.759
but I was taking a twenty twenty four approach to it,
556
00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:08.920
and I did a deep dive Onidaikkubu, who did all
557
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:14.000
the Godzilla music, and I was going more in a
558
00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:20.839
Godzilla esque vein Okay with an updated version of Hookah Blues. Right,
559
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:25.039
and before he passed, I had this song ninety five
560
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:29.400
percent finished. Other than the saxophone solo. I'm gonna let
561
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:32.240
that sit on the shelf because the last thing I'd
562
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:35.119
ever want anybody to think I was doing is profiting
563
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:36.279
off of my friend's death.
564
00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:37.720
Yeah.
565
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:41.880
So maybe sometime next year or the year after that,
566
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:45.960
I'll get around to finishing it and release it and
567
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:48.640
tribute to him, But for the time being, let it
568
00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:49.599
sit where it is.
569
00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:52.720
Well, I mean now we now people have even more
570
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:55.759
to look forward to, because yeah, I mean that that
571
00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:59.720
song was so iconic and obviously it was so perfect
572
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:04.160
for Sabu and the character and everything. Where did we're
573
00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:07.640
the idea for obviously like the saxophone part as well,
574
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:09.599
and how did all of that kind of come together
575
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:09.960
for you?
576
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:15.720
It wasn't written or recorded with Sabu in mind, Okay, Okay.
577
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:19.960
It was an idea I had for a song where
578
00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:25.920
I wanted to use a rhythm pattern similar to the
579
00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:30.119
song March of the Monsters from the Godzilla movie Destroy
580
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:37.319
All Monsters. I wanted a very plotting, marching drum beat
581
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:41.839
like in the Zoo or China White by the Scorpions. Right,
582
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:46.039
and Arno, the saxophone player I've been working with the
583
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:49.000
only saxophone on the planet as far as I'm concerned.
584
00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:55.319
He was coming in just to reinforce the guitars, and
585
00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:58.319
he was warming up and he started throwing out some
586
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:02.079
Middle Eastern licks, and I'm like the light bulb went
587
00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:04.039
off in my head and I took away the chart
588
00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:08.239
and I'm like, forget this, do that. Yeah, you know,
589
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:14.880
just solo throughout the whole thing. Go Middle Eastern klesmer morocket,
590
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:17.480
you know, throw me all that shit at Throw all
591
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:20.079
that shit at me, and we'll use it in the song.
592
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:25.800
And that's how the song came to be. It wasn't
593
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:30.599
written specifically for sab Boo, much like Enter Sandman wasn't
594
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:35.280
written for Sandman, which is probably why those two songs
595
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:41.440
became iconic and synonymous with those two characters. When Saboo
596
00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:45.199
first heard it, he was using a Little Crazy by
597
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:49.280
the Rob Halford band fight right, okay, And originally he
598
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:51.559
didn't like Huka Blues. He told me he thought it
599
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:52.360
was too slow.
600
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:55.360
Yeah, I can see that. Yeah.
601
00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:58.880
Then he realized he didn't have to run to the ring,
602
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:03.519
you know, with Little Crazy and the other songs he used,
603
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:06.079
he'd come through the curtain, go running to the ring,
604
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:09.199
and you know, ninety miles an hour from the moment
605
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:12.280
he'd start with who Could Blues? He could take a
606
00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:15.239
sweet ass time going to the ring, not get blown up,
607
00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:18.800
have more energy for the match, and it added to
608
00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:19.639
the presentation.
609
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:21.519
Yeah, you know.
610
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:23.840
Plus he was no longer being wheeled out on a
611
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:27.079
gurney with a hand an elector mask. You know, the
612
00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:31.840
character had involved a great deal over time, and by
613
00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:34.960
the time that you know, he started using Hookuld Blues,
614
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:39.239
it was more of a methodical character than a maniacal character.
615
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:41.440
Yeah, now that makes sense.
616
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:46.000
You know. And eventually we became married with because of
617
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:49.280
that song. When you know, not only he used it
618
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:53.400
in ECW, he used it in Japan. He used it
619
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:56.360
on the indies. When he went to TNA and they
620
00:35:56.360 --> 00:35:59.280
couldn't get the rights to it, they did a knockoff
621
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:03.119
that they called Carpet Ride. When he went to All
622
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:05.639
Elite for a cup of coffee, they did a knockoff
623
00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:08.639
of who Could Blues you know for him, a sound
624
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:12.960
alike for him. So I created a unique, original piece
625
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:16.480
of music that wasn't based on any pre existing music
626
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:23.280
that people are taking as the basis for music. Yeah,
627
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:26.840
you know, like, like I can be honest that Taz's
628
00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:30.079
music was a ripoff of Kiss. Not a ripoff, but.
629
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:32.400
A knockoff right inspiration?
630
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:38.440
You know, So Hookuld Blues became an inspiration for the
631
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:42.039
guys in ae W and TNA to create their own
632
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:44.920
version of Who Could Blues that they could legally use
633
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:49.039
when I know that when they first played it at
634
00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:51.800
the arena and they were trying to figure out who
635
00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:54.760
to use the song for before Polly had figured out
636
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:58.599
it was Saboo that I believe Bubba Ray Dudley wanted
637
00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:02.079
to use it for the Dudley Boys. Interesting, you know,
638
00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:06.440
he ended up using a remake of the TNA version
639
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:11.599
for the Bully Ray character. Right, the Bully Ray music
640
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:15.679
is just carpet ride with heavier guitars and no saxophone.
641
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:21.039
M okay, I'll have to go listen to that again. Yeah,
642
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:26.000
so where did you so you're you've created the iconic
643
00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:31.679
obviously the Taboo's music, TAZ music, and then the ECW
644
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:35.880
music is still so iconic that it is always being
645
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:40.119
used to this day. What how did that one even
646
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:43.000
come about? Because that one is just kind of I
647
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:44.920
don't even like, I can't even describe it, Like, how
648
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:45.880
did that even come about?
649
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:51.320
I had five days to create a theme song for
650
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:57.239
the Barely Legal pay per view. Oh okay, and Paul
651
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:01.880
that didn't really speak music, So in order to get
652
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:04.440
an idea of what he wanted, I would always ask
653
00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:08.159
him named four songs, three or four songs that if
654
00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:12.239
you could use those songs, that's what he'd use. Nine
655
00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:16.039
times out of ten I ignored him, right, Okay. So he
656
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:18.280
gave me a bunch of songs that he wanted to
657
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:23.519
open the Barely Legal pay per view with, and I'm like, okay,
658
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:25.880
I get the idea of what he's looking for. He
659
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:29.880
was looking for and at the time modern rock, you know,
660
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:37.719
hard rock MTV type sound like nine inch Nails, butthole surfers,
661
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:42.960
White Zombie, and the inspiration for the ECW theme actually
662
00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:46.119
came from the theme music from the movie Jaws.
663
00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:53.239
That the movie Jaws. Yeah, I'm thinking like, oh, the
664
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:57.400
theme song, but not yeah the data data Yeah yeah, okay,
665
00:38:57.480 --> 00:38:59.440
I'm trying to think because it's so much faster than that.
666
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:04.360
Well it is, But the vibe I wanted to get
667
00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:07.000
was like build the tension and then blow it up
668
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:09.199
so that you know, shit was about to break off.
669
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:12.039
Okay, Okay, you know in Jaws.
670
00:39:11.639 --> 00:39:16.199
It's bob bump, yeah, bob bum bump bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump,
671
00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:20.320
bump bump bo, you know. And that was like not
672
00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:22.880
we didn't take the notes or anything like that. It
673
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:26.360
was just the vibe that I was going for. And
674
00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:29.760
then we added a whole bunch of led Zeppelin, White Zombie,
675
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:33.280
nine inch Nail sounds to go with it. And we
676
00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:38.239
had five days and that song was usually worked on
677
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:41.199
starting at like two o'clock in the morning because my
678
00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:46.000
partner guitar player had other gigs. So between two and
679
00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:48.920
four in the morning every night for five days, I
680
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:51.960
would go to his little studio, his apartment where he
681
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:55.760
had a studio, and we would work on the ECW
682
00:39:56.000 --> 00:40:00.800
theme as we were mastering the Eliminators, the as I
683
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:04.400
was creating something for Sassicating Us and a few other
684
00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:08.320
songs for the first pay per view, the Barely Legal
685
00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:13.719
pay per view. I did not expect the ECW theme
686
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:17.719
to be around twenty five years later, obviously, you know,
687
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:21.760
But it's still there. People still listen to it, people
688
00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:26.559
still like it. Maybe one day somebody at WWE Music
689
00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:29.039
will get off their ass and put it on streaming
690
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:33.119
so that other people aren't legging it and pirating it. Right,
691
00:40:33.480 --> 00:40:36.920
I have no idea how WWE works or why they
692
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:38.400
do or don't do what they.
693
00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:42.000
Do well with the new TKO. I don't Unfortunately, I
694
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:44.880
don't think that they care about that kind of I'm
695
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:46.199
not going to say they don't care about that kind
696
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:50.320
of stuff. It looks to me that they wouldn't care
697
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:52.760
for that kind of stuff, which is very dumb because
698
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:56.840
if you're buying something like AWWE, and obviously they're trying
699
00:40:56.840 --> 00:40:58.639
to make it as big as possible or whatever they're doing,
700
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:03.360
but you still need to respect what it was before
701
00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:06.519
you bought the thing. And so all the fans that
702
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:11.079
were there before want all of this stuff because I mean,
703
00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:13.840
think about how many fucking wrestling I mean counting this one,
704
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:16.639
how many fucking wrestling podcasts there are that talk about
705
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:21.199
this stuff. People like the clips that go around on TikTok, Instagram,
706
00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:24.039
whatever it is on a regular basis. I've seen at
707
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:26.280
least five ECW ones today and I haven't even looked
708
00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:30.719
up ECW recently. So like it's people want this kind
709
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:33.039
of thing, and so the fact that they're not giving
710
00:41:33.079 --> 00:41:35.559
it to them It's almost like they're not paying attention,
711
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:41.199
or they're obviously just looking for that big payday whenever
712
00:41:41.239 --> 00:41:43.440
it is for the foreseeable.
713
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:45.039
Future, or maybe they just don't like me.
714
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:48.239
That makes no sense because obviously they haven't even talked
715
00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:50.679
to you. I'm enjoying you right now, and they talked
716
00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:51.519
to you for less than a hour.
717
00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:54.800
I can't explain it. Because if they put the music,
718
00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:59.360
the entire ECW catalog on let's say Spotify, they would
719
00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:03.360
make money off of it. They have the the video
720
00:42:03.519 --> 00:42:08.719
library on the Peacock Network. They've created about a dozen
721
00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:12.719
e c W specials, and every time there's a milestone,
722
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:16.800
you know, they talk about ECW. When Paul Hayman got
723
00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:19.440
inducted into the Hall of Fame, what song did he
724
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:23.320
come out to? You know, the ECW thing. It's a
725
00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:26.320
no brainer. Put it up on Spotify and collect the
726
00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:29.920
royalties off it. Why they're not doing it, I have
727
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:31.559
no freaking clue.
728
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:35.239
I mean, it's not like you don't know somebody that
729
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:37.920
you met in the bathroom line to where you could
730
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:41.440
probably be like, hey, mister hall of Famer, why don't
731
00:42:41.480 --> 00:42:44.119
you ask somebody there since you're there on you know,
732
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:46.159
every Monday or sometimes Friday as well.
733
00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:48.920
Well, I think i'm below Pol's pag right now. I
734
00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:51.679
haven't really spoken to him in quite a while.
735
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:54.239
Okay, well that's unfortunate.
736
00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:56.559
You Oh no, no, we're all it's all good.
737
00:42:56.599 --> 00:42:59.760
But yeah, it's life. Yeah, you know, life.
738
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:03.760
Know, sometimes you're not really best friends with your best
739
00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:06.639
friend from high school anymore. That's a rare occasion.
740
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:07.920
Yeah, you know.
741
00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:11.360
And and during e c W Paul and I were
742
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:14.400
thick as thieves. We traveled together, we hung out together
743
00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:17.679
during the week. The times changed. The guy had a
744
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:20.760
couple of kids. And I'm not saying this in a
745
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:23.800
bad way, but the moment his daughter was born, the poll,
746
00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:28.280
the poll I knew didn't exist anymore, makes sense, you know,
747
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:32.400
the moment he became a dad. He became a dad.
748
00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:34.239
Yeah, you know.
749
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:36.360
And I don't have any kids that I know about
750
00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:40.840
or found me soame, you know, so I can still
751
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:43.239
be a prick. But he asked to be a father.
752
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:46.320
Now, that makes it. I've definitely heard that. I mean,
753
00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:48.760
I've seen experience it too. There's so many people that
754
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:51.599
once they do have the kids, you you either grow
755
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:53.559
up or you say the exact same age and there's
756
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:55.840
you know, thankfully, a lot of people just grow up
757
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:59.039
immediately because they realize, Nope, it's not just me, it's
758
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:01.199
not just her, it's it's everybody.
759
00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:05.519
Now. Yeah, yeah, you know you're responsible for a family,
760
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:08.440
which is cool, man. You know it's people need to
761
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:12.760
either grow old gracefully or you become the dinosaur staring
762
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:15.360
at the big bright light and the sky wondering why
763
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:16.719
it's getting bigger.
764
00:44:18.039 --> 00:44:20.800
Well, let's go back to those days of EACW. Like
765
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:23.800
you mentioned with the Terry Funk story, what else did
766
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:25.880
you do there? Because I had read that you have
767
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:29.920
done so much, You've appeared on TV and multiple times, like,
768
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:33.039
what all did you actually do When it comes to
769
00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:34.320
the ECW back in.
770
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:37.920
The day, it was I started off doing production because
771
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:42.280
I had a background in live theater and in club events.
772
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:47.519
So when I originally came in, I was doing production
773
00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:51.559
for them at the TV tapings, Okay, doing like amindion
774
00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:54.360
jobs day and one night. I was like an all
775
00:44:54.400 --> 00:45:00.000
around guy. And the music came about in February of nineties,
776
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:04.039
which was supposed to be a woman done for the
777
00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:10.440
Manhattan Center, and then Taz wanted to keep using the
778
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:13.159
version of his theme song that I did for the
779
00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:15.960
Manhattan Center. He wanted to use it all the time.
780
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:19.880
But those those songs for the Manhattan Center were done
781
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:23.920
in a twenty four hour period, literally, and there were
782
00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:26.480
a lot of mistakes, and I let go because I
783
00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:30.320
figured they're going to be played live, people will be screaming,
784
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:35.239
the announcers will be talking, nobody's going to notice the mistakes. Well,
785
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:37.639
if they're going to be used on a regular basis,
786
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:41.880
I want to fix the mistakes. So Taz wanted his
787
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:46.280
music full time, and we clean that up. And then
788
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:50.800
because Taz and Perry Saturn both ran the ECW school,
789
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:55.119
if Taz had his own original music, then Perry Saturn
790
00:45:55.440 --> 00:45:59.360
needed to have his own original music. And then that
791
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:04.360
that just start to the snowball effect of like, you know, suddenly,
792
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:07.320
like somebody would come into the we need music for
793
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:11.480
Super Crazy, we need something for Rick Rude, you know.
794
00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:15.320
But Paul wanted to continue using the commercial music because
795
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:19.960
that's what set ECW apart from the other companies. They
796
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:23.599
weren't using, you know, quote unquote wrestling music. They were
797
00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:28.000
using quote unquote real music. And I tried to make
798
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:31.440
my wrestling music real music in as much as I
799
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:37.079
was possibly able now again, mostly my gig there was production,
800
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:41.480
and Paul knew me from the nightclubs. And I was
801
00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:44.159
also a good guy to have around because I did
802
00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:48.519
have a martial arts background. And I might be a
803
00:46:48.599 --> 00:46:53.119
pacifist now, but I was a psychopath back then. You know,
804
00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:55.360
if a fight broke out in the crowd, I'd be
805
00:46:55.480 --> 00:46:59.039
running towards it, you know, not away from it. I'd
806
00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:02.519
be secure already. Atlas security loved me because at any
807
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:05.840
given moment, I was jumping into the fray with them, Yeah,
808
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:08.480
and not afraid of them. But for me back then,
809
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:10.800
twenty five thirty years ago, it was just an excuse
810
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:11.519
to add people.
811
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:13.679
Yeah, I could see him.
812
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:16.159
Sorry, if I ever hit you at an ECW show,
813
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:17.480
you probably deserved it.
814
00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:25.760
Now, tell us some stories that you experience, I guess
815
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:28.239
to tell us some experiences from just being at these
816
00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:31.360
ec W shows, because I mean, the Dudley Boys could
817
00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:34.159
easily cause a riot depending on whatever they said on
818
00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:37.039
a right any given night. But you know, and then
819
00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:39.400
you obviously you've got the guy's going through the crowd.
820
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:43.039
I mean, if if anybody has not seen RVD Bam
821
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:46.039
Bam Bigelow, first off, this is pause it right now
822
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:48.760
and go watch that and then come back, because that
823
00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:50.679
that spot where he just dives in the crowd on
824
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:54.679
top of Bam Bam is absolute instic. Yeah he almost
825
00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:55.119
missed them.
826
00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:59.159
Bambam had to reach up to grab him. Yeah, dude, Okay,
827
00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:01.599
Like when the Dudley boys would come in, the common
828
00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:04.599
expression I heard from Atlas security is like, oh shit,
829
00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:08.039
time to go to work. Yeah, you know, because while
830
00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:13.280
the crowd was rowdy, the Dudley's like starting riots, you know.
831
00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:17.159
And when I'd be at the CW shows, I'd have
832
00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:20.400
a black shirt, my black vest on, and when people
833
00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:23.000
were fighting through the crowds, I would put the laminates
834
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:25.800
under my shirt and I would just blend into the crowd.
835
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:29.239
Yeah yeah, you know, so I wouldn't be noticeable on
836
00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:33.239
TV as like you know, an office guy or production guy.
837
00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:35.199
I could just look like one of the fans, and
838
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:37.360
if a fan got too close, I could take them
839
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:39.000
out of the equation, right.
840
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:43.159
Yeah. Do you think that the so I've been I've
841
00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:46.760
had this thought that I wonder if everybody loved the
842
00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:49.920
Attitude era, because you know, everything was they took so
843
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:52.360
much from the ECW and from the crowd was so
844
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:55.159
crazy as well. But I think it was because of
845
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:58.920
what was happening in the late nineties that this could
846
00:48:58.920 --> 00:49:03.320
have really happened. I wonder if in today's society we
847
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:05.880
would even get away with half of this stuff that
848
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:08.119
was going on. Yeah, that's what I thought, like that
849
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:10.840
we couldn't have really that kind of like the closest
850
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:13.719
thing they have now obviously is maybe GCW, but that's
851
00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:16.079
just because I think you have the extreme aspect that
852
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:20.239
you also have the spectrum of wrestling that happens at
853
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:22.920
DCW the same way it did at ECW. But the
854
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:26.559
crowd itself is so much different than it was at
855
00:49:26.559 --> 00:49:29.320
an ECW show because they were there almost like a
856
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:32.079
rock show, just to like, you know, and obviously they're
857
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:33.519
for a lot of the violence as well.
858
00:49:33.599 --> 00:49:38.079
Well that's what drew me in originally. When Paul started
859
00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:41.920
inviting me to just go see the shows, I kept
860
00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:46.760
using excuses to not go because when Bruno permed his
861
00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:49.519
hair Bruno San Martino permed his hair, put on a
862
00:49:49.559 --> 00:49:53.360
yellow jacket and became a commentator, I knew he wasn't
863
00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:56.519
going to get the title back. Yeah, okay, I love
864
00:49:56.599 --> 00:50:01.400
Superstar ram I loved Bob Backland, but know was my guy,
865
00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:06.320
and eventually we lost wrestling on broadcast television. It all
866
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:10.320
went to cable, and my part of Queen's didn't get
867
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:13.760
cable until much later than everybody else. There was some
868
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:18.159
lawsuit dispute as to whose territory it was, so even
869
00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:21.920
by the time I met Paul Hayman, the only wrestling
870
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:24.599
I would ever see would be Saturday Night's main event
871
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:30.239
on NBC, and it was cartoons. It was plumbers and
872
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:34.039
clowns and jugglers and you know, all the kind of
873
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:37.920
stuff which I'd love now, but at the time I.
874
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:39.400
Thought was garbage.
875
00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:43.079
So when I'd be invited to go see an ECW show,
876
00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:47.719
I was expecting jugglers and clowns and plumbers and you know,
877
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:51.440
cartoon characters. And I finally went to see my first
878
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:54.920
ECW show and people were putting each other through plate
879
00:50:54.920 --> 00:50:59.360
glass windows. The audience looked more like something you would
880
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:01.719
see at Emerge if he's last show, or a misfit
881
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:06.159
show at CBGB's and I'm like, this is different, this
882
00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:10.000
is dangerous. Someone could get hurt. I like this, I'm
883
00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:11.039
gonna come back again.
884
00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:12.400
Yeah, you know.
885
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:16.559
So that drew me in, but could could that happen today?
886
00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:21.280
Not at all. Nothing about that era is viable today.
887
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:23.320
I mean, for me, a dream match would be EO
888
00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:27.079
Sky versus Live Morgan in a brown panty's paddle on
889
00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:29.760
a pole match. And we're never going to see that.
890
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:33.719
No, No, I don't think we are. No, it's definitely not.
891
00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:37.360
I can keep my fingers crossed, but I'm not going
892
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:38.800
to see that in my lifetime.
893
00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:41.320
I mean, AI, you could probably do a prompt I
894
00:51:41.320 --> 00:51:43.599
bet you could be. I mean, if we've We've already
895
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:46.239
got Kristin Wall coming back from what I've seen on
896
00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:48.800
these AI slops, so you know, if that's happening, I
897
00:51:48.800 --> 00:51:49.360
think yeah.
898
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:53.079
But also the times have changed, well, without a doubt.
899
00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:56.079
You know, at one point Doop was heavy metal.
900
00:51:56.480 --> 00:51:59.599
Yeah, okay, and you couldn't show Elvis from the waist
901
00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:00.840
down exactly.
902
00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:03.199
Times have changed now. Would I want to see the
903
00:52:03.320 --> 00:52:08.920
bron Panties match in twenty twenty five? Honestly no, you
904
00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:12.199
know that would just set humanity back thirty years. And
905
00:52:12.280 --> 00:52:16.039
we've evolved as a species to the point where, honestly,
906
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:19.519
the best match I've seen in the last two years
907
00:52:19.679 --> 00:52:26.400
was litt was EO Sky versus Rhea Ripley when Naomi
908
00:52:26.480 --> 00:52:30.639
cashed in the money in the bank briefcase, Okay, that
909
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:34.159
was like the most amazing match I've seen. The women
910
00:52:34.320 --> 00:52:38.519
used to be props, right, Okay, they were just there
911
00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:43.440
for tits and ass. Now they're having better matches than
912
00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:48.039
the men. Yes, you know, not to mention, they've kind
913
00:52:48.079 --> 00:52:52.039
of brought the reality back into it where it isn't
914
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:57.880
one named the Plumber, the Mounti, you know, the Crossing Guard,
915
00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:04.360
the Proctologist. You know. Now it's people with actual names.
916
00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:07.440
Now they may not be real names, and they are characters,
917
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:12.400
but they're realistic characters, right, you know, it's a Today's
918
00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:15.840
wrestling is closer to what I grew up with as
919
00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:19.280
a kid, with the Bruno San Martinos and the Dusty
920
00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:23.159
Rhodes and the Ernie Ladds and the Billy Grahams than
921
00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:28.440
it was during the Mania Bust Mania Boom, with you know,
922
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:31.159
the the jugglers and the clowns and stuff like that.
923
00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:34.920
Right, and insert a pun name for whatever hockey players
924
00:53:34.920 --> 00:53:35.519
they got. Yeah.
925
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:38.599
Yeah, you know, like if we'd see a women's match
926
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:41.840
back as a kid, it would be like Mula versus
927
00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:45.960
Suzanne Green in a competitive match. They wouldn't be in
928
00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:47.199
a tub of jello pudding.
929
00:53:48.599 --> 00:53:50.840
That was that whole stretch and I was like, what
930
00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:54.760
are we Okay, I get it kind of but not really. Yeah,
931
00:53:54.800 --> 00:53:57.320
it was. It was definitely not something that people look
932
00:53:57.360 --> 00:53:57.960
back finally on.
933
00:53:58.440 --> 00:54:00.760
Well, it was coming off of the end TV tits
934
00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:01.599
and smoke era.
935
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:03.719
Yeah, without a doubt. Yeah, there's spring breaks. If you
936
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:04.800
weren't watching those.
937
00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:10.079
Motley Crue videos where they would have Tony a white
938
00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:13.800
snake with Tony Katan, you know, barely dressed on the
939
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:17.199
hood of a car and doing seductive moves. And you know,
940
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:21.400
that was the era of music when women were sex objects.
941
00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:26.599
We've grown, yes, but we can still keep our fingers
942
00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:28.960
crossed for Lived Morgan versus the O Sky in a
943
00:54:29.039 --> 00:54:30.119
bron Pante's match.
944
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:32.440
You know, I mean one day you never knew.
945
00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:38.039
You don't meet to me? Okay, anybody listening, anybody listening
946
00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:42.320
to this. I'm a feminist, you know, so I'm a feminist,
947
00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:43.480
but I'm also a male.
948
00:54:44.119 --> 00:54:46.239
There you go. I would I mean, while we're at it,
949
00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:50.599
dominic mysterio in seth Rowins and in a paddle on
950
00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:53.039
a pole manchie get him into getting both ways?
951
00:54:53.079 --> 00:54:55.679
Why not well, it never happened that like that. In
952
00:54:55.719 --> 00:54:58.480
the past. It was always men were competitive and women
953
00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:01.800
were sex objects. Right now the women are putting on
954
00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:03.079
better matches than the men.
955
00:55:03.360 --> 00:55:05.679
Yeah, and then also the inter gender matches are so
956
00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:09.480
fantastic now that it's just its next level because wrestling's art,
957
00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:11.280
and so at the end of the day, they're just
958
00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:12.519
creating fantastic art.
959
00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:17.519
Well, they finally embraced it as a performance art as
960
00:55:17.559 --> 00:55:20.599
opposed to being a fake sport that we're supposed to
961
00:55:20.679 --> 00:55:21.320
keep secret.
962
00:55:21.719 --> 00:55:23.360
Yeah, you know which.
963
00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:25.960
Boggles my mind that guys like Bruise of Brody and
964
00:55:26.039 --> 00:55:31.159
Harley Race lived their entire life keeping KFAE when it
965
00:55:31.239 --> 00:55:36.079
was The art form was the same back then. The
966
00:55:36.199 --> 00:55:39.039
art form was the same back then as it is now.
967
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:41.440
Well, so you have a Christmas album coming out on
968
00:55:41.480 --> 00:55:43.760
the fourteenth, tell us about this.
969
00:55:44.199 --> 00:55:46.119
Well, it's not an album, it's three songs.
970
00:55:46.239 --> 00:55:48.880
Okay, Well, it's like an ep an ep Okay.
971
00:55:50.320 --> 00:55:52.920
An old collaborator of mine had reached out to me
972
00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:55.840
about twenty eight months ago to collaborate with her on
973
00:55:55.880 --> 00:55:59.440
a Christmas record, but then she kind of got busy,
974
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:01.639
flake doubt, whatever you want to call it. But I
975
00:56:01.679 --> 00:56:06.679
had already created some very unique versions of very very
976
00:56:06.719 --> 00:56:11.320
old songs, so I went into the rolodex. I brought
977
00:56:11.320 --> 00:56:16.639
the band in and we did some very different versions
978
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:21.559
of Good King wenss Loss in the Bleak Midwinter and
979
00:56:21.639 --> 00:56:26.440
God Rest You Merry Gentlemen, where all three songs are
980
00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:31.880
completely different. Really Good King wenss Loss. I wanted it
981
00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:36.480
to sound almost like a kid's cartoon, you know, very
982
00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:40.159
happy and peppy, where you can almost see the cartoon images.
983
00:56:41.360 --> 00:56:46.079
Bleak Midwinter sounds like a song that a band would
984
00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:49.480
play at the end of the night during their set.
985
00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:53.440
So I approached the mixing and mastering of that like
986
00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:56.440
I was doing a live band. And God Rest You
987
00:56:56.519 --> 00:56:59.199
Marry Gentlemen. I don't even know how to describe it.
988
00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:02.599
It's like Pink Lloyd meets Nick Cave meets Leonard Kohen.
989
00:57:03.159 --> 00:57:06.400
Wow, it's very, very, very.
990
00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:09.880
Different from any version of God Rescue Marry Gentlemen that's
991
00:57:09.920 --> 00:57:13.239
ever been out there and doing research about the songs.
992
00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:18.159
That song was written back in the sixteen hundreds. Whoa, yeah,
993
00:57:18.199 --> 00:57:24.199
all of these songs are nineteenth century. Good King wences
994
00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:28.480
Loss was written like in the eighteen fifties. Bleak Midwinter
995
00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:32.639
in the eighteen seventies. You know, I didn't realize how
996
00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:36.920
old most of the Christmas music was, so it's not
997
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:40.280
I did these more as an approach to how would
998
00:57:40.280 --> 00:57:45.559
I interpret very old melodies? And I got some great
999
00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:48.719
players on that. I got Les Warner on drums, who
1000
00:57:48.800 --> 00:57:50.960
was with the Cult for a period of time. He
1001
00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:54.760
was on the Electric album, and my bass player, even
1002
00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:59.440
Stephen even Stephen Levy who was a founding member of
1003
00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:02.559
the Slash Stones. He plays bass and he co produced
1004
00:58:02.599 --> 00:58:06.119
the stuff. Arno hecked from the Uptown Horns and from
1005
00:58:06.119 --> 00:58:10.599
the Rolling Stones. And James Brown, who's been my sax player,
1006
00:58:11.039 --> 00:58:14.159
you know since ninety four. I won't work with anybody else.
1007
00:58:14.199 --> 00:58:16.440
And I guess the two the new kids on the
1008
00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:19.920
block would be Tom Jack, formerly of the band Chemistry,
1009
00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:23.960
and from the band Jacks, who had a couple records out.
1010
00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:28.039
I believe one was out in Germany. Ross Byron, which
1011
00:58:28.119 --> 00:58:30.760
is just a friend here in New York, contributed guitar
1012
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:35.480
on one track. And I got another singer, Roxy Purple,
1013
00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:39.559
to sing in the Bleak Midwinter. I sang good King
1014
00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:43.320
Wence's Loss and God Rescue Mary, gentlemen. But as I said,
1015
00:58:43.360 --> 00:58:47.519
I originally created these songs to be sung by a female,
1016
00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:52.760
so I did not have the range for Bleak Midwinter, right,
1017
00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:56.400
you know, So we brought Roxy in who is you know,
1018
00:58:56.559 --> 00:59:01.800
She's like within the Inner Circles family, so to speak.
1019
00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:03.000
I love that.
1020
00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:09.079
And they're coming out on the fourteenth and hopefully people
1021
00:59:09.159 --> 00:59:12.360
will like them. But the way I gave success is
1022
00:59:12.440 --> 00:59:15.840
if ten people I don't personally know listens to something
1023
00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:17.360
I do, then it's a hit.
1024
00:59:17.760 --> 00:59:19.559
Yeah, you know, I don't.
1025
00:59:19.719 --> 00:59:22.239
I'd love to have everybody on the planet listen to
1026
00:59:22.320 --> 00:59:24.960
it once so I could make fifty bucks because streaming
1027
00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:26.000
doesn't pay anything.
1028
00:59:26.280 --> 00:59:26.920
That's what I've heard.
1029
00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:30.280
But at this point I'm not making music to get rich.
1030
00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:32.440
I'm making music for the sake of art.
1031
00:59:32.920 --> 00:59:33.840
Yes, exactly.
1032
00:59:34.440 --> 00:59:37.000
You know. There will be a follow up record next year.
1033
00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:39.599
I don't really like announcing my plans, and every time
1034
00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:42.519
I announce my plans, I hear somebody in the sky laughing.
1035
00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:45.679
You know the old expression, if you ever want to
1036
00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:49.039
hear God laugh, announce your plans. Yeah. Yeah, So I
1037
00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:52.760
didn't talk about the Christmas records this year. We missed
1038
00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:56.599
two Christmases in a row because I made the mistake
1039
00:59:56.679 --> 01:00:00.199
of like, we're going to be releasing this stuff member
1040
01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:03.039
of twenty three. Nope, We're going to release this stuff
1041
01:00:03.039 --> 01:00:06.320
in December of twenty twenty four. Nope. I heard the laughter.
1042
01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:10.920
So I waited until we got the the confirmation from
1043
01:00:10.960 --> 01:00:15.760
Spotify before talking about anything. And they'll be on Spotify, iTunes,
1044
01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:20.360
Amazon Music, you know all the streaming services that pay nothing.
1045
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:27.760
And there will be a follow up, non religious, non
1046
01:00:27.880 --> 01:00:33.639
Christmas record next year of instrumental songs.
1047
01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:36.039
Let me just leave it at that, Okay. I like that.
1048
01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:39.920
If you like Tuka Blues, if you like the extreme theme.
1049
01:00:39.960 --> 01:00:43.599
They're not wrestling songs by any means, but they're more
1050
01:00:43.679 --> 01:00:46.480
within that vein of instrumental.
1051
01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:50.400
I think that world is becoming so much bigger. Obviously,
1052
01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:52.719
with the like Crank beIN getting as big as they
1053
01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:55.599
are bad bad not good, being as big as they've
1054
01:00:55.639 --> 01:00:57.960
been for as many years as they have, I think
1055
01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:01.559
that world is becoming a lot bigger. I'd either it
1056
01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:03.599
be for people just having in the background to vibe with,
1057
01:01:03.880 --> 01:01:07.760
or you know, just something to maybe build on top
1058
01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:09.880
of it in case they want to make their own music.
1059
01:01:10.320 --> 01:01:14.800
Yeah, you know, originally the music I'll be releasing next year,
1060
01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:20.719
I intended to have vocals on, but unfortunately, due to
1061
01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:26.559
dental surgery not going well and my implants not going
1062
01:01:26.599 --> 01:01:30.400
according to plan, I had my upper jaw. I had
1063
01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:33.039
to get all my teeth replaced because a really bad
1064
01:01:33.159 --> 01:01:37.320
dentist destroyed my upper teeth and then a really good
1065
01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:41.360
dentist tried to save them. Yeah, but it didn't work
1066
01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:43.920
out as according to plan, and I don't think I'll
1067
01:01:43.960 --> 01:01:45.199
ever be able to sing again.
1068
01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:47.119
Oh man, I'm so sorry.
1069
01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:51.239
Yeah. So you know, good King Wens's loss and God
1070
01:01:51.320 --> 01:01:56.280
rescue Mary, gentlemen. I sang those in late twenty twenty
1071
01:01:56.320 --> 01:01:59.400
three with a mouth filled with stitches, and unbeknownst to
1072
01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:03.559
me at the time, I also had COVID whoa. Yeah,
1073
01:02:03.599 --> 01:02:08.199
So those two songs, those two Christmas songs, might be
1074
01:02:08.360 --> 01:02:11.000
the last two songs I'm ever able to sing on.
1075
01:02:11.960 --> 01:02:14.360
You know, I have a lazyess, I have a minor
1076
01:02:14.440 --> 01:02:17.159
speech impediment that I'm trying to work through because of
1077
01:02:17.199 --> 01:02:22.280
the unsuccessful dental surgery. So I decided, you know what,
1078
01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:25.719
I always liked wipe Out, I always liked Apache, I
1079
01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:31.239
always liked you know the song by what's his name?
1080
01:02:31.320 --> 01:02:34.119
Jimmy Page says was the greatest song of all time
1081
01:02:35.679 --> 01:02:38.639
the instrumental tune. I'm spacing on the name of it,
1082
01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:43.400
but I always liked instrumentals, right, So all right, I
1083
01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:46.239
got a whole bunch of good songs. Forget the vocals,
1084
01:02:46.360 --> 01:02:49.079
just release them as instrumentals and people can sing their
1085
01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:50.119
own words over them.
1086
01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:53.880
That's yeah, that's perfect. You're still creating the art and
1087
01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:56.880
giving the people the music. Yeah.
1088
01:02:56.440 --> 01:02:58.719
Yeah, you know, they could sample a part of it.
1089
01:02:58.760 --> 01:03:01.000
They can write their own lyrics, or they could just
1090
01:03:01.039 --> 01:03:04.199
sit back and listen to what I've given them. Smoke
1091
01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:06.400
a little weed, eat your gummy, drink your beer, and
1092
01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:10.280
space out on the stuff I'm going to put out.
1093
01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:11.119
I love that.
1094
01:03:11.199 --> 01:03:14.519
Hold on, let me listen for laughter. Nope, still no
1095
01:03:14.639 --> 01:03:16.679
laughter from the sky. I guess that album is going
1096
01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:17.320
to happen to.
1097
01:03:18.440 --> 01:03:21.440
Well that We got four too in a couple of days.
1098
01:03:21.480 --> 01:03:23.800
Then we got up four too for next year. I
1099
01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:24.079
love that.
1100
01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:27.960
Yeah, it should be fun. You know I won't I
1101
01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:30.480
won't be screaming. This is extreme on anything.
1102
01:03:31.480 --> 01:03:33.280
Well, I was gonna say, if you got to play
1103
01:03:33.320 --> 01:03:36.440
it live, I imagine that you'd find somebody to cover that
1104
01:03:36.480 --> 01:03:36.719
for you.
1105
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:39.719
Yeah, dude, I'd love to put a band on the
1106
01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:41.400
road and not be in it. That way, I could
1107
01:03:41.480 --> 01:03:42.039
just stay home.
1108
01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:44.239
I mean, that's what Brian Wilson did.
1109
01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:47.320
You know. Let somebody else be Harry Slash on stage,
1110
01:03:47.519 --> 01:03:50.119
you know, like day one hundred pounds, grow your beard,
1111
01:03:50.159 --> 01:03:53.079
wear a bandana, sing like you have a frog in
1112
01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:53.639
your throat.
1113
01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:57.960
You got it covered, nailed it. Yeah, you know.
1114
01:03:58.119 --> 01:04:01.440
So hopefully people will like the Christmas songs I did.
1115
01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:04.880
Hopefully they'll like the instrumental songs I did, and then
1116
01:04:04.920 --> 01:04:06.559
who knows what's next after that?
1117
01:04:07.760 --> 01:04:08.679
Yeah, there you go.
1118
01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:13.840
You know, maybe I will get around to finishing the
1119
01:04:13.960 --> 01:04:18.119
updated version of Who Could Blues, because during the pandemic,
1120
01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:22.960
I just started recreating my own music on garage band
1121
01:04:23.079 --> 01:04:25.920
just as a way to keep myself sane during lockdown,
1122
01:04:26.360 --> 01:04:30.480
makes sense. So I created a modern version of the
1123
01:04:30.559 --> 01:04:35.920
ECW theme that sounds like a seventies movie theme like
1124
01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:36.719
The Warriors.
1125
01:04:36.840 --> 01:04:37.519
Oh, I like that.
1126
01:04:39.400 --> 01:04:43.360
I redid super Crazy song to sound like something you
1127
01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:45.840
might see in a Clint east something you might hear
1128
01:04:45.880 --> 01:04:50.079
in a Clint Eastwood Western. And then Who Could Blues
1129
01:04:50.159 --> 01:04:53.000
sounds like something that might be in a Godzilla movie.
1130
01:04:53.480 --> 01:04:56.760
So maybe one day I'll look in the rear view
1131
01:04:56.840 --> 01:05:01.079
mirror and release new versions of twenty five year old
1132
01:05:01.159 --> 01:05:03.559
songs that other people have been copying for the last
1133
01:05:03.639 --> 01:05:07.320
twenty five years. It's all good.
1134
01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:10.199
Obviously, you are inspiring other people, so that's a good thing.
1135
01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:13.639
Hey man. You know, that's the whole thing about music.
1136
01:05:13.719 --> 01:05:16.119
You put something out and if somebody else can take
1137
01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:18.800
what you did and take it further, yeah, or be
1138
01:05:18.920 --> 01:05:22.519
inspired by something you did. Over the years, I've spoken
1139
01:05:22.559 --> 01:05:25.559
to people online that have told me they started playing
1140
01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:27.719
guitar because of the ECW theme.
1141
01:05:28.039 --> 01:05:29.679
Wow, you know I didn't.
1142
01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:31.920
Play the guitar on that. That was roder Rack Cohene,
1143
01:05:31.960 --> 01:05:34.920
my partner at the time, you know, musical partner at
1144
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:38.480
the time, you know. But if something I produced inspired
1145
01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:42.239
you to, you know, bring your art further, then my
1146
01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:44.679
job is done, you know. Then I did a good thing.
1147
01:05:45.280 --> 01:05:48.159
Hell yeah, I love that well. I was a second
1148
01:05:48.199 --> 01:05:49.639
on the show. I call it the five counts is
1149
01:05:49.719 --> 01:05:55.079
five random questions. Sure, what was your first concert or
1150
01:05:55.079 --> 01:05:56.159
who was your first concert?
1151
01:05:56.400 --> 01:05:58.639
Black Sabbath with Van Halen opening up?
1152
01:05:59.079 --> 01:06:02.079
Holy shit? Where did they? Where did they played?
1153
01:06:02.519 --> 01:06:06.480
Madison Square Garden? God, there were a couple of concerts
1154
01:06:06.559 --> 01:06:09.880
before that that. I was taken to as a kid.
1155
01:06:10.920 --> 01:06:13.920
Because my aunt and uncle used to send the little
1156
01:06:13.960 --> 01:06:18.159
baby with the cousins to so that they wouldn't get
1157
01:06:18.159 --> 01:06:21.159
in trouble, they had to bring me with them. So
1158
01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:24.400
I was at a Randalls Island show with Jimmy Hendricks.
1159
01:06:24.480 --> 01:06:28.239
I don't remember it. I was in the stroller, yeah.
1160
01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:28.119
You know.
1161
01:06:28.159 --> 01:06:30.280
But the only way my cousins could go is if
1162
01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:32.679
they brought me with them. There were a few other
1163
01:06:32.800 --> 01:06:36.599
shows that I remember being taken to, but Black Sabbath
1164
01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:40.800
was the first one I like. I got to see this. Unfortunately,
1165
01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:42.960
the one that should have been the first one would
1166
01:06:42.960 --> 01:06:45.280
have been led Zeppelin at Madison Square Garden.
1167
01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:46.559
Oh.
1168
01:06:46.599 --> 01:06:49.960
I was in eighth grade. I had tickets to the
1169
01:06:50.199 --> 01:06:53.079
to the show the day we were supposed to come back,
1170
01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:58.159
but a congressman named Mario Biagi, who ended up in jail,
1171
01:06:59.039 --> 01:07:03.920
was really impressed by my class and invited us to
1172
01:07:04.320 --> 01:07:08.519
watch a joint session of Congress that was taking place
1173
01:07:08.599 --> 01:07:12.039
the next day, and I never would have been back
1174
01:07:12.039 --> 01:07:14.840
in New York on time to go to Madison Square Garden.
1175
01:07:14.880 --> 01:07:18.800
I tried to escape the hotel room where my eighth
1176
01:07:18.800 --> 01:07:21.679
grade class was staying in Washington, d C. To the
1177
01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:24.480
point that I had to sleep in the same bed
1178
01:07:24.519 --> 01:07:27.480
with one of the teachers with a rope tied from
1179
01:07:27.519 --> 01:07:30.639
my leg to his leg because I tried to escape
1180
01:07:30.639 --> 01:07:32.760
and hitchhike back to New York three times.
1181
01:07:33.320 --> 01:07:36.320
Wow, I want them to see led Zeppelin. I get it.
1182
01:07:36.440 --> 01:07:38.719
Yeah, I didn't get to see led Zeppelin.
1183
01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:40.000
Congress is boring.
1184
01:07:40.840 --> 01:07:43.039
I got to see a joint session of Congress. And
1185
01:07:43.159 --> 01:07:47.079
years later, when Mario Biagi was invited and dieted, I said,
1186
01:07:47.119 --> 01:07:49.360
good for him. You cost me my led Zeppelin show,
1187
01:07:51.960 --> 01:07:55.639
you know, so Yeah. Answer your first random question. First
1188
01:07:55.679 --> 01:07:58.719
concert Black Sabbath with Van Halen opening up in their
1189
01:07:58.719 --> 01:07:59.239
first tour.
1190
01:08:00.039 --> 01:08:03.719
Not a bad one. Number two, if you if you
1191
01:08:03.760 --> 01:08:07.440
owned a liquor company, brewery, winery, coffee shop, or dispensary,
1192
01:08:07.639 --> 01:08:09.400
which one would you own and what would the name be?
1193
01:08:11.480 --> 01:08:15.320
Probably repeat the question. I got to think about that.
1194
01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:19.239
You're fine. If you own a brewery, coffee shop, winery,
1195
01:08:20.279 --> 01:08:24.159
liquor company, or dispensary, which one would you own and
1196
01:08:24.199 --> 01:08:24.880
what would the name be?
1197
01:08:26.680 --> 01:08:31.079
All three would be called Hire's High. That's perfect, and
1198
01:08:31.239 --> 01:08:33.520
I would probably go with coffee.
1199
01:08:33.760 --> 01:08:34.920
Okay, that's a good one.
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Because I know I used to drink way too much liquor.
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I don't, not that I had a problem with it.
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I just stopped drinking a few years ago.
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Good for you.
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I don't smoke as much as I used to, but
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I'm I'm like twenty percent coffee in my blood.
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Love it. Number three? What emoji do you use most?
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Okay, I'm really not an emoji guy. I don't. Yeah, same,
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you know, I don't text cucumbers to women and stuff
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like that. It's just and I say the thumbs up
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because of Facebook and social media. Granted on X it's
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a heart right as a thumbs up.
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So yeah, same thing. Number four? Who are what inspires
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you art?
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Love that art, doing something creative, something that maybe in
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twenty or forty or one hundred years ago people will
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look at and be inspired by.
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That's perfect, which they still are, so it's even better. Yeah.
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And number five, what would you tell your seventeen year
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old self?
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Don't do stupid shit.
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You can have what they's up that at any age.
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Yeah, but at seventeen I was indestructible and fearless.
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Yeh.
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And that's how I ended up with severe nerve damage
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in my right foot, busted up, hit and a whole
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bunch of stab wounds and a lot of injuries over
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the years because I would never go see a doctor.
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You know, A car ran over my foot, Eh, I'll live. Yeah,
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a car ran over the foot of a second time,
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that big deal. A car runs over the same foot
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a third time. Not Ald in the same day, mind you,
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over a period of years. The third day my foot
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swalled up to the size of a grapefruit. I taped
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on a flip flop and a workshoe on the left foot,
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and I still went to work the next day. Jesus
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should have gone to the hospital. And now I'm dealing
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with neuropathy where every step feels like I'm walking on
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broken glass. Don't do stupid shit, That's the best advice
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I could give a seventeen year old me. And avoid
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doing cocaine because that's just going to give you a
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lot of problems.
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Yeah, I never got into that one. I'm glad I
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never started that one.
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Oh. I was a great junkie until I came a
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terrible junkie.
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That's usually how it ends.
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And the last time I shoved a straw on my nose,
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Ronald Reagan was president. So during my nightclub world, my
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wrestling world, my music world. I never did a granule
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of cocaine. I had already gotten all of that out
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of my system during the Reagan administration.
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I'd say that's good because, yeah, if you go in
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a nightclub and music scene and wrestling, especially back then,
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it was coke was free, especially in New York City. Yeah, yeah,
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you know so.
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I I'd be in the limelight on a Sunday night,
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I'd smoke a little weed, I'd drink a little coffe.
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You maybe do a shot of vodka or Jaegermeister. But
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would anybody you want to bump? No, thank you, not
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since the Reagan administration. I'm one of those obsessive people
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where one hit is too much and a kiloh is
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not enough. Oh yeah, so I avoid cocaine. Smoke weed.
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Kids, there you go.
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The only thing that could happen to you from smoking
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weed is you fall asleep, or you get fat.
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Or you get very creative and create an amazing art. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Now,
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if people wanted to find out more about you, follow
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you online, listen to your music, obviously your upcoming Christmas EP.
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How can they do all the things?
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Harry Slash and the slash Tones on Spotify and Amazon
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and Apple will have the Christmas music. I am on
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Instagram under slash Tones one. I am on Facebook. I
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have a Harry Slash page. I have a Harry Slash
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and the slash Tones page, but I also have my
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real page under my real name, which you can easily
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find on Google. And occasionally I say stupid shit to
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piss off both sides on x under Hari Underscore Slash.
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This is true, Harry. Thank you so much for your time.
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I've love this. I feel like we could have talk
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01:12:50.880 --> 01:12:53.439
so much longer about music and wrestling. But I would
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01:12:53.479 --> 01:12:54.760
love to have you back on the show and I
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can't I can't wait for this Christmas EP.
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Thank you, thank you very much. Thank you for having
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me John anytime.
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01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:15.920
Thank you so much to Harry for being on the
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show again. Make sure to check out the Christmas music
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from Harry Slash and the Slash Tones coming out November fourteenth.
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This is the last time you're gonna hear him sing.
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He said it right there. He can't sing anymore, so
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this is gonna be the last time you hear him sing.
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This is gonna be awesome and I can't wait to
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have Harry back on the show. We could talk so
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01:13:32.720 --> 01:13:35.560
much more about music wrestling. We literally talked after we
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01:13:35.680 --> 01:13:38.640
recorded for another hour just about wrestling, what was going
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01:13:38.720 --> 01:13:39.239
on in the world.
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So I love it.
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I can't wait to see what's going on with Harry,
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01:13:41.800 --> 01:13:43.920
So while you're following him, definitely make sure to follow
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01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:46.159
us on social media. It is bruisers Pod. That is
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R E W S E R S P O D
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01:13:48.760 --> 01:13:51.520
on the Instagram, the threads, and the Twitter. If you
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01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:53.359
want to send us an email, it is Bruiserspod at
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01:13:53.399 --> 01:13:55.439
gmail dot com. If you want to follow me directly,
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01:13:55.479 --> 01:13:57.159
it is Rody John. That is our O D I
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01:13:57.239 --> 01:13:59.479
E J O N. Rody John is the name on
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01:13:59.600 --> 01:14:01.560
the Twitter handing untapped. In case you want to find
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01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:03.319
out what I'm drinking, maybe we can have a beer together.
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If you're gonna follow me on the threads or the Instagram,
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it is a Fisher Ordie John sad. Until next time,
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make sure to enjoy life, drink local, good cheers,