Marc & Mitch Make a Scientology Film #3 - Filming in Monsoon: An Unearthed Journey Through Scientology's Curtains and the Intrigue of TR12

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Hey guys, welcome to the channel, welcome to another episode of Mark and Mitch Make a Scientology Film.
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Let's get Mitch in here.
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Hey guys, afternoon, mitch, afternoon, we've got a good film we're going to go over today, and when we originally talked about doing this film as the next one, I really couldn't think of any good stories about the film, because I just remembered that we it was really three actors who do we have?
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We had.
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The film we're talking about today is TR12, the solo auditor.
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And actually, why don't you set this one up, mitch?
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Because there was a reason.
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I think the reason we did this one early on was because I think Dave Miscavige wanted this specific film.
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Yeah, I mean traditionally.
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For years the solo course has been a bottleneck.
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Just the idea of solo auditing has been a bottleneck.
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In Scientology it goes all the way back to when Hubbard first dreamed up clear on an emitter.
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The only problem was, in order to become clear in Scientology back in the 60s, you had to travel to St Hill, england, and you had to take a course called the St Hill Special Briefing Course, which that course has been canceled by Dave Miscavige For God knows how long.
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You can no longer do it.
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But you had to become.
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You had to train to be a Class 6 auditor before you could solo audit.
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As a result, nobody was.
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It was a bottleneck.
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Nobody was going up the bridge.
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So, hubbard, he came up with this course and then he basically called the solo auditor's course where he said I've taken all of the best stuff from Class 6 and I've put it in one course and I can train you to do this.
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And this is the big breakthrough.
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He called these things an undercut.
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When any of his stuff started just going to shit and like nobody was doing it and it wasn't working, he'd come back and say I did some research and I have an undercut.
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And there was always the next undercut, and solo auditing was a big undercut, right, mark?
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Well, to make sure people are up to speed, when you first get into Scientology and you have all these ingrams that you need to resolve, you can do that with Dianetics and it's just two people talking.
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But then, as you get into Scientology, the addition of an E-meter comes into play and then someone asks you questions and they look at the E-meter and can tell.
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They kind of guide you.
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The E-meter is like a dividing rod in Scientology counseling.
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It kind of tells you where to go and where not to go.
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And solo auditing is when now, instead of somebody asking you the questions and looking on the E-meter, you're asking yourself the questions in your mind and then you're answering the questions in your mind and you're looking at the E-meter to see if you're in the right area, and that's pretty much a good act.
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I've never done any of these things in my life.
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No, that's totally fine.
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You're probably in a better position to explain it because you never did it, because once you, do it you're so lost in the confusion of body thaitins and all this stuff.
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Yeah, no, that's absolutely right, and it's a great part of the con, because it's really expensive and time consuming to audit people.
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So Hubbard said well, you know what Auditing at this level is so fast that another person can't do it with you.
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You have to do it yourself.
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It's just a con.
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Everybody's like whoa right and so it's like it's a great way to up your income is rather than us having to dedicate auditors to auditing people, we'll just have them audit themselves, right yeah?
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And you know what I always thought was one of the things that I always thought after I left was it's too hard to have two people have so much cognitive dissonance about the same stuff at the same time.
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It makes it more convenient if you are just in on this with yourself.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, if you had another person in this.
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One of them is going to be like dude, can you believe we're doing this right now?
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Yeah, it seems like a bunch of nonsense.
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You're right.
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You're right because nobody's better at suckering you into something than you.
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Exactly that's what I realized.
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Just about the talk about it.
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I was like, really you could only do this by yourself, because otherwise somebody would talk you out of it.
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Yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely.
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So this film is about solo auditing.
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Just to talk a little about the course that the film teaches you what's on the course?
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There's basically two things you're going to learn on this course.
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You're going to learn how to use the e-meter so that you can perform the solo auditing, and you're going to learn how to clairvoyantly address what you will become known to you as your body thains.
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This is where you learn my dog is tangled up in my mic cord, sorry.
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This is where you learn to telepathically communicate to your body things, and you'll do this mostly by screaming at astros.
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This is a course where you do a lot of yelling at astros big, heavy glass astros, telling them to stand up, thanking them for standing up, telling them to sit down and so forth, and then you'll do a lot of e-meter drills.
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There's a couple of these e-meter drills.
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I think it's 22 and 24.
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I don't remember their date.
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Locate right.
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You remember this.
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Yeah, so you are sitting with your e-meter and then someone is holding the cans that are connected to the e-meter and they're supposed to think of a date and this date.
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They write it on a piece of paper.
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Yeah.
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It's a trick like a parlor game.
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Yes, they have to.
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They basically have to write.
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It could be 5,782 million years ago and to the day.
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No to the second.
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You eventually have to do it to the second, eventually.
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And then the person on the e-meter has to say is it earlier?
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than 10 million years ago, is it?
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earlier than 10 trillion, and then the e-meter is supposed to guide them to the right date.
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The other person that's sitting in the chair just sits there, and I remember that students would be on this drill for months and months.
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Oh, it's enough to make you want to unalive yourself.
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A good number of people finish it at what's called qual, in other words, they finish it under the technical supervision of the most technical people in the organization.
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It's absolutely crazy, and there is a pathway through doing it successfully, and that pathway leads through this weird kind of biofeedback where the other person is figuring out your tells because everybody has tells yes, probably this e-meter drill probably makes you into a better poker player.
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I don't know.
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I think all Scientology things make you into a better poker player because you become a robot version of yourself.
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That doesn't show emotion.
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Yeah.
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If you really wanted to be able to not show emotions, if you just did what they call the Scientology TRs up, I think, what up to like 10 or 8 or whatever it is when you just the beginning ones 0-4.
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Yeah, just up to 4.
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Yeah, 0-4.
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Yeah, 0-4.
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If you can get through those, you could be an amazing poker player.
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Yeah, and it's funny that you mentioned that, because I know a Scientologist who happens to be an OT, who has played professional poker and won a lot of money.
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Wow, yeah, I absolutely know what.
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But you still have to be smart and know what hands to play, and all that.
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But as far as a poker face goes, this can take care of that Right as far as controlling your physicality, your emotions, all those things that apparently are important in poker, yeah, but, mark, come on, there's a lot of smart people in Scientology.
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Sure, it doesn't make a lot of sense, but yes, there are.
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Yeah, no to me it does.
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It actually does.
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Some people are just too stupid to join a cult.
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Hold on, I didn't mean that Before you come after me.
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I did not mean that.
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But no, a lot of people are attracted because they really are looking for an alternative, counter-cultural kind of experience.
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They're interested in the spiritual.
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They're highly idealistic.
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These are some very clever high demand groups out there that will sucker you in.
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Yeah, anyway, that's not what we're here to talk about.
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We're here to talk about the film TR-12.
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That's right.
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So this film takes you through how to.
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There's certain conventions and methods that Hubbard wanted solo auditors on how they held the cans and how they set up the session to do it with themselves and not another person.
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And I think in this one, so in this film, Jack Armstrong is our main character in this film.
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And then we had Kelly Daniels Was it Kelly Daniels?
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Well, we had Kelly Daniels.
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Well, it was shot twice, once with Katie.
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Mitchell yeah, Katie Mitchell, and I don't remember who the guy was.
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Do you remember God?
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I thought it was.
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Rob, I thought it was like Bobby Lyons, or it was a young guy.
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I had to be a young guy.
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I can't remember.
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I remember shooting it twice.
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And I think that might have been the thing that confused me is because I think when we did the location shoots, those were stock shots in the first version and so in the second version we actually needed to shoot a plane.
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And we'll get to that.
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But yeah, just let me.
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Just let me real quick interject the positioning with Hubbard.
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Position solo auditing would be coming, getting your solo pilots license.
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Yes, it was a marketing gimmick, and so when you did the solo course, you got these cute little wings like this in flight.
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It was like a little 10.
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Yeah, a little 10.
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Yeah, a little thing you could wear.
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You got your wings like a Boy Scout pin or something, and then those were like you, solo wings.
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So the film that we did, we didn't want stock shot Senate, so we went in a range to shoot.
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It's supposed to be.
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It opens with a guy taken off on an airport, a little plane we used to.
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What the hell was that plane?
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It's a type of it's a type of aerobatic plane.
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I'll think of it as very famous, but Tom Cruise coincidentally has one of these planes and flies it, but I didn't see him showing up to help us.
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So not at all.
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No, we were and we needed help on the aerial part of this Goodness?
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yes, it was a disaster.
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Yeah, we did, we did.
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Well, we'll just, we'll just say what we did.
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So the film needs to show it's a biplane.
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This, this aerobatic plane was it was a biplane, right.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a little aerobatic as a stumpy little plane that's just insanely nimble.
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Yeah, they can stall out and fall and then get re, you know re, you know re.
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Yeah, it's really well.
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There's only like five or six of these planes anywhere near where we were in California, and the closest one that we could find at the time was going to be in Sedona, arizona.
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Ok, no, hold on, hold on Mark, hold on Mark.
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Sometimes we don't remember.
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No, we went to Sedona.
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I wanted to go to Sedona.
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Yeah, I specifically said I had worked in Sedona.
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I did some commercials of Porsche, yeah, and I done these on the Sedona airport in Arizona, one of the most beautiful places in America.
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They have a Mesa, you know, one of these things like you know, like close encounters, and that's the airport runway is on that Mesa, and so you park a car on there and fly around it, and so I went.
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I want to go to Sedona.
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So it marks right it.
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We did have to find the aerobatic plane that was near there, but fortunately there's a lot of flying out of Sedona airport.
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So you know, there's a lot of rich guys that have aerobatic planes.
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We were able to find a stunt pilot to do it, but Arizona could be a rather tricky place to shoot at certain times of year, right, mark?
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Well, so this is so.
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I didn't.
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I don't remember the part about you saying we needed to shoot there.
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I just knew it's in Sedona.
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The planes go in there, we're going there, right.
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I want to say it's about six to eight hours from Gilman.
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Hot Springs 700 miles.
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Oh, ok good.
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Yeah.
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I still remember.
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Anyway, whichever it is Sedona is, the weather is very hit or miss and you can't it doesn't.
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It's not like one of these places where the people that predict the weather for Sedona give too much care about if it's gonna be more rain or more clouds or more sun.
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It's just partly cloudy or partly sunny, and that's usually what it is.
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Whenever we would do a location shoot, my job was the shoot crew chief, but there was another department there was a few departments underneath the shoot crew chief that we didn't have people in.
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One of those was a grip department, and so if something needed to be transported or something needed to be moved from one place to another, technically that kind of came in under the grip department.
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But since we didn't have anybody in the grip department, I was that job from above.
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So getting a plane to the shoot was kind of a grip thing.
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But the plane was really a prop, so the props guy was in charge of the plane and the logistics guy was working with the props department to get this plane to this place and somehow or another they could only get it there.
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I wanna say it was for an afternoon, Like it was gonna be there and we had it for an afternoon And- yeah, I'm sure, between flying time and fuel and yeah, and how much, yeah it was and there were a lot of moving parts.
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We were shooting at a place that we didn't know any of the people, so it was.
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Somebody called the airport and said, hey, we wanna do a shoot there this afternoon, and they're like sure I guess, and like, give us a thousand bucks and you can do whatever you want and it's not a real busy airport also.
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Yeah, and so we didn't have a lot of money.
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Well, almost all the money that was spent on this was spent on the plane and the location and me and well I'm just kidding, I'm sorry, but you were already paid.
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I think, for the film.
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So it wasn't.
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We were Tasteless joke, sorry.
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Either way, when we get a budget like this and we're gonna travel to Sedona, arizona, there's no hotels, there's no, you know, there's gas money and maybe a little bit of food money.
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That's it, anyway.
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So when we get to Sedona, we travel to Sedona, we have to get up, you know.
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We have to leave it like, let's just say, midnight to get there by the morning, so that when we get there we can shoot, we can set up and we can shoot with the plane or whatever and I think we were gonna do.
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There's some ground shots where the plane is taking off and the plane is landing, and then the plane needs to do some aerobatics and we need to get some of those shots it looks like it needed, like it was spinning out of control.
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There was one shot where we were looking way up at it and it's like, ah, you know it's gonna crash.
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Yeah.
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And it rained.
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Well, hold on a second.
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Not only did it rain, there's a thing in Arizona called monsoon season, and we picked monsoon season to shoot this thing.
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So if you wanna know why nobody was at the airport?
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because monsoon season in Arizona is a serious business, and so when it's raining guys with planes that are aerobatic planes that they don't wanna get messed up, they don't like to fly like that.
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They're like yeah, no, I'm not flying in the rain and I'm also not gonna do a bunch of tricks in the rain, and so I can't remember exactly how it went down, but I just remember we shot a bunch of footage that was pretty much useless because it was raining or it looked like it was gonna rain and the way the shot is described by Elrin Hubbard is that there's just a plane in the sky.
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It doesn't say there's a plane in the sky with rain clouds all around.
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Yeah, one would assume it needs to be a glorious, spectacular, sun-drenched shot?
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Yes, you would assume that.
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But here we are and there's a plane, we got the plane, we got the location, but we ain't got the weather and there's nothing you can do about the weather.
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But in the sea organization and working for Golden Air Productions and working for David and the scavenge, you can't blame that you didn't get the shot on the weather.
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There's no such thing as an act of God in Scientology.
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And they actually have a policy called the why is God so like?
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If you say, oh, why didn't you build the driveway?
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Why didn't you pour the concrete for the driveway?
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Well, it was raining.
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We can't pour concrete in the rain.
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The why is God?
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You can't say that you didn't do it because of something that's not under your control.
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That's unacceptable, Anyway, so we did as much as we could.
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I think we ended up staying the night, which was a huge flap.
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That we stayed in yeah, like a Motel 6, kind of cheapest place we could find and we didn't have enough money to get a hotel.
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So I think what we ended up doing was there were two females two were I think there was two females on the shoot.
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There was Lisa Schroer and she was the director's assistant.
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She was Mitch's assistant.
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Yeah, it's not assistant director.
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Very different thing.
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Yes, director's assistant, she was like get his, we go get shipments all the time.
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Get me tacos.
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That's sweet.
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And then there was a girl named Sadie, Sadie Johansson.
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Sadie was the assistant cameraman.
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Right.
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And so because there were two females and there was probably I want to say there was probably four or five males, and we all went there in a 15 passenger van with a seat or two taken out of the back and that's where all the film equipment, we would put all the film equipment Right and we may have.
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Now I don't think we had the camera truck, I think we just had a 15 passenger van, just because we didn't have enough money for gas for two vehicles.
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Yeah, right, yeah by the way, I just want to interject.
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I looked it up on my phone and so from the Golden Era golf course, which is next door to the GOLD, to the Sedona Airport.
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It's 600 miles 636,.
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You were right, Mark 636 minutes, 394 miles so there you go, it's all good, I'm not going to put it on there, but just a reason.
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I bring that up not just to underscore the fact that Mark is always right about these kind of things, because he is, because his memory is like amazing.
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But so whatever you're hearing about this day, keep in mind, this day included all of that time driving and the crew was expected to drive back the same day.
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So that's a long day.
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Yeah, that's exactly how it was always scheduled.
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Because you can't say, well, we need to go there the day before.
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Well, why do you have to go there the day before?
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Well, because we need to sleep when are you going to sleep?
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We need to shut up.
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Yeah.
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Or they would say where are you going to sleep?
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You say we're going to sleep in a hotel.
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Well, there's no money for a hotel.
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Okay, we'll sleep in the van.
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Okay, well, the crew can sleep on the van on the way there.
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And then I'd be like yeah, but then I have to drive.
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Okay, well, then you'll be the one, you'll be the only one, who doesn't get to sleep.
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And it'll be like okay, well, you know, we have to drive back too.
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And it'll be like well, then you'll be the only one who doesn't sleep on the way back when you drive back.
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So it's like that's usually the deal that I got Because I was the only one who could sleep.
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No, I was the only one who could drive without having slept.
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But even that I had my limits.
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But so we drove there.
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It rained all day long.
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We shot a bunch of shots because we're going to shoot some shots, no matter what.
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We're going to shoot some shots, whether they're usable or not.
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If we don't even shoot the shots, then it's like you guys didn't even try.
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Even if we shoot the shots, they're going to be like these shots suck, it's raining and you're like, well, yeah, but if I wouldn't have shot the shots, you'd say I suck because I didn't even shoot the shots.
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I think in the end I want to say that we might have used a shot to take off or a landing shot.
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What I remember was the one that we used was of course it figures it's the one of it spiraling out of control, that one, because that was away from the airport and that was supposed to be like a dangerous shot, like you're a solo editor and you're in trouble, cut to plane spiraling out of the sky.
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So it was okay that it was kind of dark and foreboding.
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I'm going to let my puppy out while you fill it up, no problem.
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Yeah, you know, I actually remember.
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When Mitch comes back he'll confirm, but I think we ended up doing another shot in a nearby town not in Sedona the next day before we ended up coming back.
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In the end we shot in Sedona, we shot in a second location, and then I'm just going to let him put his cans back on so he can hear me.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure we shot in three different locations.
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And Mitch?
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Yeah, mitch, I was just saying I think we shot in three different locations.
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We shot in Sedona.
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We tried to salvage it the next day by shooting somewhere a nearby airport, somewhere else.
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That the guy can fly the plane to.
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Yeah, and we managed to do.
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He wouldn't go back to Sedona.
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He was like no, we're done, I'm not going back there.
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So we managed to have him that's right to fly out of a different airport.
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And then that's when we got the spiral in shot.
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That's right, we got another one.
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That was a nightmare, I'm like triggered just thinking about that, I know.
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And then we did get.
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We had to end up getting one more set of shots and we got those.
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I want to say, just like you and the cameraman only went Because, oh, but that's the other thing.
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Okay.
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So when we shot at the first place in Sedona, that was almost a complete wipeout In an actual fact.
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I don't know that any footage from Sedona actually made it into the film, but we shot Nothing, nothing.
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Yeah, so we shot a second day.
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So we stayed at a hotel because there were two girls with us.
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We chipped in whatever money we had, like we literally went through like the bottoms of our backpacks and the seats and the van and scraped together like $67 so that the two girls could sleep in a bed in a hotel room and the guys slept in the van right outside the.
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And I'm saying in Sedona we were at like the Motel 6 of Sedona.
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It didn't even have Motel or 6 in the name, but it was that level of whatever they had in Sedona that we could get for $67 a night.
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Yeah, I don't think it was.
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I think we driven back to Phoenix.
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I actually think it was in.
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Well, I know we stayed in Sedona, no matter what, and then we drove, I think that night the props guy had to figure out how we could get that plane to somewhere else, and by the morning it was like, okay, the guy said he'll go to this airport with the plane and we can meet him at this time.
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And then it was like, okay, we're heading that way.
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And then it was the logistics guy's job to get that airport locked up for us to be able to shoot at by the time the plane got there and we got there Right, and then we were able to meet up with the plane guy and we were able to meet up with the right airport people and it was like the first three people that we went to at the airport were sort of like we have no idea what you're talking about, get the hell out of our airport.
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And it was like, finally we were able to like and I think we may have shot at that airport guerrilla style, so we weren't actually authorized to shoot there, but we ended up going like outside the gate on the runway and got set up a camera in a place where you can really see the fence, and it was like, oh my goodness, okay, we were desperate.
00:25:08.625 --> 00:25:15.095
This was now what you call a voyage a ship named Hale, a ship named Hade, on a voyage to Hale.
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That's what this now is In the Sea Org.
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This is known as making it go, Right yeah.
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Yeah, we had to make it go right with whatever money or resources we had.
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Okay, so we shoot that.
00:25:28.410 --> 00:25:35.671
Okay, when we come back, it is pretty much oh, and I don't know how.
00:25:35.671 --> 00:25:39.315
Well, this was a unique position that we were in.
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People could fly under the radar at the base and do dumb things, and it could go on for months.
00:25:45.013 --> 00:25:54.150
Dave Muscavige is never going to find out, or it's very unlikely that he's going to go to your area and inspect you, what you're doing, and talk to you and all that.
00:25:54.150 --> 00:26:00.575
Unfortunately, when we're shooting a film, we're sending him footage every single day.
00:26:00.575 --> 00:26:07.732
So if a day goes by and he doesn't get any footage, he knows something's rotten in China and we done messed up.
00:26:07.944 --> 00:26:12.111
Yeah, no, this is a constant data stream from the shoot crew to Muscavige.
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It's just a continuous thing.
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It's like he gets to see.
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You can't just skip a day and say, oh, we were whatever.
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Yeah, if he doesn't get, if he goes, okay, let's go down to go watch the film the dailies.
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And then someone has to tell him oh sir, there's no dailies today.
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There was bad weather in Sedona, arizona.
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That's a little bomb that's going to go off in your pocket Within the next hour.
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You're going to find out that David Muscavige knows you didn't do anything today.
00:26:44.711 --> 00:26:50.830
So we, and I think the first thing that would have been said sorry to interrupt you, it would have been why did they go to Sedona?
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There's an airport right here in Hammett.
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It literally would go that way.
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It would be like why the it's just there's a parade of questions that will come back to us.
00:27:03.470 --> 00:27:11.192
So we didn't end up coming back the first night, so we came back the second night and now we had two days worth of footage.
00:27:11.192 --> 00:27:16.852
And when David Muscavige saw that footage it was like what's going on?
00:27:17.625 --> 00:27:22.991
Yeah, it was not good and we had to basically explain that there was a giant cluster.
00:27:22.991 --> 00:27:25.268
Yeah.
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Monsoon season, the whole thing.
00:27:27.935 --> 00:27:31.976
Anyway, I ended up getting in massive trouble over this.
00:27:32.365 --> 00:27:34.164
And I wanna say Everybody did.
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I think we all were in a lot.
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Yeah, but because I was the one who checked the weather, like it was like, well, who checked the weather?
00:27:43.353 --> 00:27:45.492
It was like, well, that's the Shukr chief's job.
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And then you go like, well, yeah, but you set up the location in Sedona, arizona Logistics guy and the plain guy had to know the weather and it was like, and so in the end it was like I checked the weather and it said partly sunny and if you went to, sounds good.
00:28:02.045 --> 00:28:02.788
And if you went?
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to another forecast or another website.
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It said partly cloudy.
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So it was like well, which one did you look at and which one?
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And it was like it didn't matter.
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It says look like the last 20 days.
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It said partly sunny and the last 20 days this one said partly cloudy.
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And they both could have said either.
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Or it was like who cares, like Anyway.
00:28:24.412 --> 00:28:31.525
So Exactly that was the major investigation was what does partly cloudy mean to you and what does partly sunny mean to you?
00:28:31.525 --> 00:28:37.553
And I'm like it means it's gonna be part sun and part clouds, or part clouds or part sun, either way.
00:28:37.553 --> 00:28:45.554
It went on and on and on and on and we all got in big trouble and so, when it needed to be, some of the shots needed to be reshot, and I think it was that spinny spin shot.
00:28:45.554 --> 00:28:48.305
That's the one we got.
00:28:50.718 --> 00:28:55.644
The one we needed was the stable takeoff, the takeoffs and landings at an airport.
00:28:55.644 --> 00:28:59.369
So the shot of the guy spiraling you could shoot that anywhere.
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That the guy could fly overhead.
00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:05.537
We needed an airport and there was no way we were going back to Sedona.
00:29:05.537 --> 00:29:06.924
Yeah, there's no way we were going back.
00:29:06.924 --> 00:29:09.670
And now Mitch Mitch usually is like nope, we're going to Sedona.
00:29:10.729 --> 00:29:14.462
And then you're like Mitch, you know we could shoot at nearby Nope, we're going to Sedona.
00:29:14.462 --> 00:29:20.045
So then, after we all get in trouble and all that, and it's like Mitch, we're going to Inyo Kern about an hour and a half from there.
00:29:20.045 --> 00:29:22.019
Well, it's a beautiful airport.
00:29:22.019 --> 00:29:24.020
I wish I could shoot at Sedona.
00:29:24.020 --> 00:29:25.471
It's a beautiful airport.
00:29:25.565 --> 00:29:28.648
I wish I would have known about it, I would have shot at there Well, no, I wouldn't have.
00:29:28.648 --> 00:29:37.549
But there is this airport that's a lot closer than Sedona, so in California it's north of Los Angeles, at a place called Inyo Kern.
00:29:37.549 --> 00:29:42.569
It used to be a Navy base and now it's a private visual, you know, like a little private little airport.
00:29:42.569 --> 00:29:59.193
The thing that's unique about this airport is the runways are huge because during World War II they used to land you know, big, big air and cargo airplanes on there and the people that were in the airport they constantly pave the black top.
00:29:59.193 --> 00:30:09.213
They redo the runways to keep them pristine and black because they get so many shoot days for car commercials at this place.
00:30:09.213 --> 00:30:22.554
And it's in the foothills to the Sierra, so it has this beautiful mountainous background and yeah, so I'm like, okay, we're going Inyo Kern, but it was just me in the camera department because I was told dude, you're paying for this freaking thing.
00:30:23.406 --> 00:30:38.585
I mean, I want to say that we ended up getting billed for all the film that we shot in Sedona Like we paid all like anything, and the way it works in the shoot crew is a Kana Kodak 5248 or whatever we were using vision stock.
00:30:38.644 --> 00:30:40.632
Back then it was probably a thousand bucks.
00:30:42.965 --> 00:30:47.332
Yeah, it depends on if it was a small canner or if it was a big canner yeah, no, it's just a buck a foot.
00:30:47.664 --> 00:30:48.469
But yeah, go ahead, sorry.
00:30:48.964 --> 00:30:54.127
Anyway, from 500 to $1,000 a can, depending on how much film it was that was.
00:30:54.127 --> 00:31:00.373
You're getting billed for that, and if it was you and two other people, then you just it was a three way split.
00:31:00.373 --> 00:31:00.747
It was just.
00:31:00.747 --> 00:31:03.271
It wasn't even like well, you're 20% responsible.
00:31:03.271 --> 00:31:06.053
No, you three 33% each.
00:31:06.285 --> 00:31:08.574
But if you're done, you owe 330 bucks.
00:31:08.664 --> 00:31:09.769
You owe 330 bucks.
00:31:09.769 --> 00:31:16.656
You owe 330 bucks 330 bucks three and 33, whatever, anyway, and so we were all not going on this.
00:31:16.656 --> 00:31:19.230
We knew, like well, they're like well, we got to go do a reshoot.
00:31:19.230 --> 00:31:26.171
And whenever even the shoot crew were like, well, okay, so we're going to need this and we're going to, no, they're like no, you're not need, you don't need anything.
00:31:26.171 --> 00:31:29.354
Mitch is going to drive and the camera crew are going.
00:31:29.424 --> 00:31:32.133
Yeah, I'm going to put the camera in the trunk of my BMW.
00:31:32.133 --> 00:31:33.984
Yes, we're going to drive to Inyocura.
00:31:33.984 --> 00:31:36.133
I'm going to drive with the cameraman and the assistant cameraman.
00:31:36.133 --> 00:31:42.786
God damn it, we're going to get the shot, or we're pretty much out of Scientology, yeah, right, anyway.
00:31:42.786 --> 00:31:45.134
So we went up there and we did.
00:31:45.134 --> 00:31:46.791
I mean, I was carrying camera cases.
00:31:46.791 --> 00:31:47.868
I hadn't done this in college.
00:31:47.868 --> 00:31:50.751
It was great, caron camera cases help set up cameras.
00:31:50.751 --> 00:31:51.374
Blah, blah, blah.
00:31:51.374 --> 00:31:52.008
We got the shot.
00:31:52.008 --> 00:31:56.214
It turned out so good that they they didn't.
00:31:57.047 --> 00:31:58.991
We didn't have to pay for anything for that day.
00:31:58.991 --> 00:32:04.030
Yeah, so that actually was a big sigh of relief, it was like oh my God.
00:32:04.384 --> 00:32:07.053
And the best part of these things is when we do this.
00:32:07.053 --> 00:32:10.412
It's not good because it sets precedences.
00:32:10.732 --> 00:32:12.612
So yeah, why do you need so many people?
00:32:12.752 --> 00:32:19.307
Yeah, why did you need five people before, or six people or seven people or whatever it was when you did it?
00:32:19.307 --> 00:32:21.453
Fine with three people and no money?
00:32:21.453 --> 00:32:28.828
So it's like one of those things where it sets you up for the next time you need to do a location shoot Right, you better, you better.
00:32:28.828 --> 00:32:35.490
Make sure you got your, your eyes dotted and your T's crossed, because they're going to come at you with a magnifying glass.
00:32:35.585 --> 00:32:37.226
But hey, wait a minute, there's.
00:32:37.226 --> 00:32:38.771
It says there's four people.
00:32:38.771 --> 00:32:47.954
The last time you guys did a location shoot with Mitch you did it with three, including Mitch, and you're just like that was cause we were in trouble.
00:32:48.224 --> 00:32:52.669
We just were, we were, we were taking we were taking our hits.
00:32:52.669 --> 00:32:54.669
Okay, we screwed up the first one.
00:32:54.669 --> 00:32:58.332
You know, I just remembered Mark that airport in your current airport.
00:32:58.332 --> 00:33:07.454
It's next door to a place called China Lake Naval Reserve, Right, and China Lake Naval Reserve is next to area 51.
00:33:07.454 --> 00:33:15.218
That is the number one place in America for spooky alien urban myths and UFO sightings.
00:33:15.218 --> 00:33:19.511
I mean, this is the place where they tested all the stealth bomber and the stealth jet.
00:33:19.531 --> 00:33:19.913
Oh yeah.
00:33:20.505 --> 00:33:24.214
So a lot of that stuff was reported by the locals as UFOs.
00:33:24.214 --> 00:33:27.094
So we were told, you know, we had a permit to shoot there.
00:33:27.094 --> 00:33:32.593
And we were told, because a lot of the shooting there is not aircraft, it's cars on the runway.
00:33:32.593 --> 00:33:45.814
So we were told by the airport authority there the private airport authority, make sure your pilot does not fly over China Lake, because they'll shoot them down right there.
00:33:45.814 --> 00:33:54.031
They said look, there was a 16 year old kid a couple of weeks ago he flew, accidentally flew a glider, because they had a glider club at that airport.
00:33:54.031 --> 00:33:57.849
He accidentally flew a glider over the airspace of China Lake Naval Base.
00:33:57.849 --> 00:34:05.094
He lost his right to have a flight, to have a pilot's license for the rest of his life.
00:34:05.094 --> 00:34:08.485
Wow, they said, you will never fly anyway.
00:34:08.485 --> 00:34:10.132
So that was an interesting place.
00:34:10.132 --> 00:34:17.476
That made us a little nervous because, you know, considering everything that happened before, that's all we needed was yeah, pilot got shut down.
00:34:18.085 --> 00:34:18.768
Yeah, totally.
00:34:18.768 --> 00:34:28.552
Before I forget, guys, we are going to show you an amazing document at the end of this stream, so make sure you stick around to the very end.
00:34:28.652 --> 00:34:31.414
Yeah, you need to see this and you need to see it on my channel, right, mark?
00:34:31.414 --> 00:34:33.344
That's right, and that's what I was going to say.
00:34:33.344 --> 00:34:36.215
You got to check out Mitch's channel at Scientology.
00:34:36.324 --> 00:34:36.967
The big lie.
00:34:36.967 --> 00:34:40.494
We're trying to get Mitch's channel kind of going.
00:34:40.494 --> 00:34:54.516
This SPTV channel incubator system works as long as the subscribers from some of the bigger channels go and subscribe and watch videos on some of the smaller channels.
00:34:54.516 --> 00:35:04.335
And that's sort of the system that we have where we try to team up different channels with other channels to kind of incubate that channel into getting monetized and all that good stuff.
00:35:04.644 --> 00:35:16.735
Yeah, and I promise my boys got of honor a promise more really high quality content, especially once my book is done, because that's been like I've been kind of hit and miss because I got it.
00:35:16.844 --> 00:35:31.835
It's so funny that you brought that up Mitch, because you can go to Indiegogo Projects, the Scientology, the big lie, and if you want to help Mitch out getting his book together, then, and also I don't know what the different levels are on there.
00:35:31.835 --> 00:35:32.766
Mitch, can you?
00:35:32.766 --> 00:35:34.012
Is it like you get a book?
00:35:34.012 --> 00:35:34.989
No, matt, like if you.
00:35:35.565 --> 00:35:37.092
No, I don't have any said deal.
00:35:37.092 --> 00:35:45.192
I mean, obviously, some people who have donated really large amounts of money, they'll get something, but I haven't really settled it yet.
00:35:45.192 --> 00:35:46.831
But I have to tell you I was a very low.
00:35:46.831 --> 00:35:51.170
I had a very low campaign goal, which was only $2,000 in money I needed to finish it.
00:35:51.170 --> 00:35:54.190
We're at 108%, so I've already passed it.
00:35:54.190 --> 00:36:01.929
But the thing is I want to keep going with it because I need to upgrade some equipment and I'm going to have other costs for the book, like for printing.
00:36:01.929 --> 00:36:10.264
So rather than starting a new campaign like, let's see how far we can purchase this campaign and I mean this community, as you know, mark, they're incredible.
00:36:10.264 --> 00:36:17.150
I mean this is like an amazing reckoning that's happening in the world of people who want to screw people over.
00:36:18.333 --> 00:36:20.376
Well, the thing they went in, yeah, sorry.
00:36:20.376 --> 00:36:22.873
Well, the thing I want to say you brought up a great point.
00:36:22.873 --> 00:36:37.585
The thing I want to say is that if we can get some of these other channels in the sort of loosely connected SPTV network, you're going to be able to get differing content as well as higher quality content.
00:36:37.585 --> 00:36:47.552
And Mitch knows people that I don't know and I know people that Mitch doesn't know, and we're kind of connecting up all these different people to be able to bring you guys content.
00:36:47.552 --> 00:36:55.791
So when you support the new and upcoming channels and subscribe and like and all that good stuff, hit the bell notification icon.
00:36:55.791 --> 00:37:02.664
It makes a difference for the YouTube algorithm and it pushes these channels up into people's recommended page.
00:37:02.684 --> 00:37:10.092
Yeah, and also, like Mark and I had experiences which I never remembered until I started talking to Mark, and I think the same for him Totally.
00:37:10.373 --> 00:37:11.094
We started talking.
00:37:11.094 --> 00:37:12.389
We're like, oh my God.
00:37:12.389 --> 00:37:34.215
Well, it's funny you say that because I remember shooting this plane thing but I didn't know which film it even went with, like I had forgotten the, the traumatic experience of of driving for three days with no sleep and getting in trouble when we got and knowing, oh, that's the worst thing, because you have this drive of shame.
00:37:34.215 --> 00:37:37.050
You know when you get back you're toast.
00:37:37.050 --> 00:37:41.326
You know you're gonna get in huge trouble for spending all this money.
00:37:41.326 --> 00:37:54.371
You know, whatever it was $2,000, spending all this money on film and the location and the plane and all this stuff and then getting no shots and you're driving back to.
00:37:54.371 --> 00:37:56.175
Okay, am I gonna go to the RPF?
00:37:56.295 --> 00:37:56.697
am I gonna be?
00:37:57.164 --> 00:37:57.728
imposed.
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Am I gonna?
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Am I shoot?
00:37:59.516 --> 00:38:01.465
I'm gonna get in a signed lower conditions.
00:38:01.465 --> 00:38:09.836
I'm not gonna be able to go home for another four or six months and all the you're just driving back like, yeah, okay, what fun awaits me.
00:38:09.856 --> 00:38:13.027
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
00:38:13.047 --> 00:38:17.425
Yeah, you know, I didn't remember that the plane was connected to this film.
00:38:17.425 --> 00:38:32.726
And then when Mitch, we have a, we have a, like a note that we kind of create for each one of these things, and when Mitch added all the plane stuff, I was like, oh my god, dude, I totally forgot that was for this film that we're about to talk yeah, and I had only just remembered it, it wasn't like I was just sitting on it, it was.
00:38:34.070 --> 00:38:35.192
It was very traumatic.
00:38:35.192 --> 00:38:37.516
So the film itself.
00:38:37.516 --> 00:38:39.128
Let me just we'll get back to the film.
00:38:39.550 --> 00:38:46.373
Yeah, this is just oh, this is just the opening sequence, yeah and sequence and one little shot in the movie.
00:38:46.373 --> 00:38:58.534
This whole, this whole debacle probably is, takes about, I want to say, 45 seconds worth of footage of this entire film, maybe a minute yeah, and every everything else.
00:38:58.795 --> 00:39:01.708
Yeah, everything else was shot in a studio.
00:39:01.708 --> 00:39:03.333
Some of it.
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We went to LA and rented a studio.
00:39:05.237 --> 00:39:07.871
I just remembered that because we had didn't have the castle yet.
00:39:07.871 --> 00:39:11.141
Yeah, and we did the scene.
00:39:11.141 --> 00:39:13.148
Okay, I have to back up a minute.
00:39:13.449 --> 00:39:16.766
This script that Hubbard wrote was incredibly boring.
00:39:16.766 --> 00:39:19.661
All it was was a guy sitting at a car folding card table.
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They'd actually tried to shoot it once.
00:39:21.047 --> 00:39:22.713
So I'm telling you this is how, what?
00:39:22.713 --> 00:39:28.836
It was sitting at a card table and then there was a narrator, but you couldn't ever see his head.
00:39:28.836 --> 00:39:36.092
He was standing next to him like you just see him from the shoulders down and he was pointing at the meter and telling this guy what to do.
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And that was pretty much the whole movie.
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And I'm like there is no way I'm shooting that movie.
00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:44.431
I didn't come here to shoot like an instructional film.
00:39:44.431 --> 00:39:45.273
That's like so boring.
00:39:45.273 --> 00:39:48.965
So I I loved this film.
00:39:48.965 --> 00:39:50.110
It was called a guy named Joe.
00:39:50.130 --> 00:40:00.929
1943, spencer Tracy, world War two romance about a pilot, spencer Tracy, who dies and then he has to become his best friend's co-pilot.
00:40:00.929 --> 00:40:14.485
He's like an invisible angel that now sits in the backseat in battle and helps him fly, and it's really tough for him to do this because I think it's fan Johnson who plays his friend, has now taken up with his ex-girlfriend.
00:40:14.485 --> 00:40:20.786
So it's a really it's a great film if you like old black and white films, romantic films.
00:40:20.786 --> 00:40:30.996
It was directed by I'm sorry about Victor Fleming yeah, victor Fleming, directly like gone with the wind and the Wizard of Oz, so it's like a.
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This is a major deal.
00:40:32.108 --> 00:40:33.731
I really loved that film.
00:40:33.771 --> 00:40:43.630
So I thought well, what if I make the narrator guy into like a, an angel who's invisible, who stands next to him and the audience can see her, but the guy can't see her?
00:40:43.630 --> 00:40:47.527
So I completely rewrote all the visuals in the film.
00:40:47.527 --> 00:40:49.297
Everybody thinks it was written by a lot of work.
00:40:49.297 --> 00:40:52.844
He wrote all the dialogue and the narration, but I wrote everything else in the film.
00:40:52.844 --> 00:41:00.668
And the film opens with this person who's gonna play this angel going to see God in heaven.
00:41:00.668 --> 00:41:07.253
None of this is in the script and we went into a studio in Hollywood and we made like a dry-ice heaven.
00:41:07.253 --> 00:41:13.434
Remember that we made like a dry-ice heaven with fog and and you never saw God.
00:41:13.434 --> 00:41:22.105
But this angel who happens to be a Scientologist, because apparently angels are also auditors you can all expect.
00:41:22.105 --> 00:41:23.670
Welcome to heaven.
00:41:23.670 --> 00:41:25.016
You're welcome to heaven.
00:41:25.016 --> 00:41:30.699
Security check those Christians when they finally get to heaven because, but also this auditor.
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:35.452
Katie Mitchell also played an angel in another movie, right?
00:41:35.994 --> 00:41:39.648
as played an angel who was an auditor yeah, so check, checker.
00:41:39.648 --> 00:41:42.916
Yeah, check, checker so you're, a few people believe in heaven.
00:41:42.916 --> 00:41:43.347
You're out.
00:41:43.367 --> 00:41:49.599
Yet you're in for a little surprise when you get up yeah, when you walk through the pearly gates is gonna be some broad.
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:51.447
They're trying to ask you a lot of questions.
00:41:51.467 --> 00:41:58.050
Gonna be an ethics officer yeah, up there going, welcome to heaven, here's where you, anyway.
00:41:58.050 --> 00:42:13.615
But my point is so we're at this and the angel who's gonna teach this guy to be a solo on her, she's gonna get this assignment from God and God's gonna say I want you to go down to earth and I want you to help this guy, charlie right, his name was Charlie, something.
00:42:13.615 --> 00:42:17.126
Yeah, and go help this guy, charlie.
00:42:17.126 --> 00:42:18.490
And the voice of God.
00:42:18.490 --> 00:42:20.606
I thought, well, this is an important decision.
00:42:20.606 --> 00:42:23.393
Who you know what the voice of God sounds like.
00:42:23.393 --> 00:42:23.914
So I had.
00:42:24.335 --> 00:42:29.588
I knew this, this black woman, this actress who was a Scientologist, who had a really incredible voice.
00:42:29.588 --> 00:42:35.570
So I'm like, okay, cool, god is a black woman which kind of fits with my whole political social thing.
00:42:35.570 --> 00:42:38.338
So I snuck that in there people.
00:42:38.338 --> 00:42:52.327
But while we were at that studio that night shooting, we met for the first time an actor from the Beverly Hills Playhouse who came to that studio because he wanted to meet us, a guy named Jason Brigade.
00:42:52.327 --> 00:42:57.568
Yes, that's where we met Jason for the very first time and he was very gung-ho, very.
00:42:57.568 --> 00:43:06.364
We have stories we're gonna get into about work that we did, oh my goodness, we did so many films with Jason and Jason was I all.
00:43:06.384 --> 00:43:22.802
I'm pretty much have a great story for every single time we shot with Jason because, yeah, it was always a party when Jason showed up and, yeah, so made my life excruciatingly difficult because he didn't, because he was a, he was.
00:43:22.802 --> 00:43:25.849
He was a professional actor who done.
00:43:25.849 --> 00:43:27.753
He did movies.
00:43:27.753 --> 00:43:30.385
Yeah, jane GI Jane with Ridley Scott.
00:43:30.385 --> 00:43:33.012
He did Monkey Shines with George RRomero.
00:43:33.012 --> 00:43:39.621
He did real movies and real TV shows and he didn't put up with any of our Scientology C organization.
00:43:39.621 --> 00:43:41.929
We're like just a rag tag shirt crew.
00:43:41.929 --> 00:43:42.088
Now.
00:43:42.108 --> 00:43:58.248
He was like that's on you, not on me yeah, we're gonna play by the rules here, folks yeah that's how we do it yeah, he was no nonsense but I still remember when he came by that night it was just totally yeah, because somebody said we were there and he wanted to meet us because he wanted to be in our films.
00:43:58.650 --> 00:43:59.514
Yeah, we rented this.
00:43:59.514 --> 00:44:07.268
The studio it was right off of, I want to say, santa Monica and Highland in that area, no that was the one we did for orientation.
00:44:07.409 --> 00:44:13.391
This one was in the valley north of North Hollywood, like oh yes, you're right, another one we used.
00:44:13.431 --> 00:44:15.317
We used to rent, but we used to.
00:44:15.317 --> 00:44:18.496
When we were at that one in Hollywood, we did a ton of films.
00:44:18.496 --> 00:44:25.677
Yeah, we sort of grew out of the the gym like, yeah, so many sets to do in order to do them quickly.
00:44:25.677 --> 00:44:30.916
We just couldn't do them at, yeah, headquarters at the bay, at the one studio we had.
00:44:30.916 --> 00:44:40.137
So we had, yeah, it was a set of studios in Los Angeles and in the studio next to us they shot America's America's funniest home videos.
00:44:40.137 --> 00:44:43.509
Yeah, we were always running into stuff like that.
00:44:43.509 --> 00:44:53.498
Yeah, we, so we, we would always be shooting around some other thing that was popular in the in the regular world, but in the sea org.
00:44:53.498 --> 00:44:54.938
We had no idea what they were.
00:44:54.938 --> 00:44:57.536
It was like America's funniest home videos.
00:44:57.536 --> 00:45:04.106
Yeah, that's a thing and and we'd sometimes we'd share their, depending on which studio we were renting.
00:45:04.106 --> 00:45:15.818
We'd share their makeup and costumes areas, so there'd be kind of their stuff would be left over from when they just finished their season yeah and we kind of be like, oh, what's this, you know?
00:45:15.958 --> 00:45:20.974
oh, this is where they shoot America's funniest home videos and they're like okay anyway.
00:45:20.974 --> 00:45:25.590
So yeah, we did meet Jason on that shoot, that's right.
00:45:25.590 --> 00:45:27.155
Yeah, just a little side color.
00:45:27.155 --> 00:45:30.829
And then also there was was.
00:45:30.829 --> 00:45:31.590
So we had Jack.
00:45:32.152 --> 00:45:37.612
Jack Armstrong was the was Charlie now you're talking about the second one, the first one.
00:45:37.632 --> 00:45:38.217
I don't remember.
00:45:38.217 --> 00:45:40.168
We don't remember who that guy was in the first.
00:45:40.188 --> 00:45:41.719
Yeah, it's really weird that we can't remember.
00:45:41.719 --> 00:45:43.429
Was it maybe Michael Adams?
00:45:43.429 --> 00:45:49.655
No, he was a non-scientologist member we used to work with a lot yeah, there were a few guys like that.
00:45:49.655 --> 00:45:53.987
Remember Al Clegg oh, my god, right.
00:45:53.987 --> 00:45:58.715
Yeah, he was the, the guy used to play for Kansas City, was that?
00:45:58.715 --> 00:45:59.338
No, no, a.
00:46:00.445 --> 00:46:09.992
Clegg was the guy in em 5 that the the PC, the the prince's son or the the king's son, that black guy yeah, wasn't, that wasn't his name.
00:46:10.414 --> 00:46:10.795
Al Clegg.
00:46:10.795 --> 00:46:11.516
He used to play.
00:46:11.516 --> 00:46:11.945
He was.
00:46:11.945 --> 00:46:17.210
He had like two seasons in the NFL, I think he played for Kansas City and he had a horrific injury.
00:46:17.210 --> 00:46:20.103
He could ruin his career and then he went into acting.
00:46:20.143 --> 00:46:25.938
Yeah, it's a great guy, yeah, he was nice, but we so, we so, but yeah, we used him a lot.
00:46:25.938 --> 00:46:33.246
There were people that we liked, so we would yeah so so what I remember is that there was Jack Armstrong.
00:46:33.246 --> 00:46:39.130
Kelly Daniels played the auditor right, I mean the angel, whatever you want to call it.
00:46:39.130 --> 00:46:41.360
That was invisible but he could.
00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:51.907
It was weird because she was basically talking like okay, now you're gonna want to set up your meter, and then he would just set, starts doing the thing that, yeah, saying yeah, we were here.
00:46:51.969 --> 00:46:54.735
Yeah, yeah, yeah he couldn't hear her.
00:46:54.735 --> 00:46:55.797
It was clairvoyant.
00:46:55.797 --> 00:47:03.152
Yeah, because, because you're learning to communicate with what will become known to you, revealed to you later as BT's.
00:47:03.152 --> 00:47:11.443
I had the, I had the you know brilliant artistic idea to introduce the, the aspect of clairvoyance, into the film.
00:47:11.443 --> 00:47:15.856
So she would say, okay, now pick up the pen.
00:47:15.856 --> 00:47:20.431
And he'd go and he'd pick it up, yeah, as though it was his own thought.
00:47:20.431 --> 00:47:22.679
Yeah, he say, you know, now turn your meter on.
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:26.677
And then then she say, start reading the commands.
00:47:26.677 --> 00:47:32.416
And so he'd start reading these off of a printed sheet, the commands that he's giving himself.
00:47:32.416 --> 00:47:33.427
This is probably.
00:47:33.427 --> 00:47:35.996
This is another catchphrase mark.
00:47:36.097 --> 00:47:42.773
I just remember the catchphrase yeah no, no, silently to yourself yes, that's exactly.
00:47:42.773 --> 00:47:43.755
I couldn't.
00:47:44.257 --> 00:47:49.000
I couldn't remember what it was from this film for every film yeah there is.
00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:52.695
Some of them have one or two and some of them have ten.
00:47:52.695 --> 00:47:57.577
But yeah, there's these sayings that they said that you would use it in real life.
00:47:57.577 --> 00:47:58.663
Oh, all over the world.
00:47:58.724 --> 00:48:15.574
I'd meet Scientologists all over the world and they'd be saying these things to me from tech films, like I never heard it before yeah and this, and like if somebody was really chattering away and you're around you and you just wanted to just tell them to shut up, you'd say no, no, silently to yourself.
00:48:15.954 --> 00:48:21.208
Yes, yeah, and that is true, a lot of these were.
00:48:21.208 --> 00:48:22.795
They were comical.
00:48:23.135 --> 00:48:29.135
Yeah, within Scientology yeah, we could get away with it because it was, we were hovered, what that one was a little bit.
00:48:30.186 --> 00:48:36.931
That was a little bit south, because yeah taking a lot of still, we would, yeah, we would, we would definitely use those.
00:48:36.931 --> 00:48:47.711
Yeah, yeah, one film where it's em5, where there's a bunch of papers blow all over the floor right and the messenger comes in and says get these papers picked up.
00:48:48.052 --> 00:49:02.844
And so whenever, so whenever we somebody would go into somebody's office and it was messy, we like get these papers picked up, yeah sometimes I wonder if these are so inside jokes that people are looking at this right now and going what the fuck are they talking about?
00:49:02.965 --> 00:49:05.860
yeah, like, oh, that's really funny get these papers picked up.
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:10.764
Yeah, I guess you had to be there no, but some of them were really were really helpful lines.
00:49:10.764 --> 00:49:16.172
There's one in a film that Jason was in that we're gonna do later and we'll bring this back up again.
00:49:16.172 --> 00:49:27.009
But the Jason character is trying to pull the wool over the auditor's eyes and he's saying you're a great guy, and when I laid eyes on you I saw there's a really honorable.
00:49:27.009 --> 00:49:34.125
He's just trying to butter the guy up because he wants to lie to him and the auditor looks at him and says thank you for your good opinion, I'll try and live up to it.
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:34.922
And.
00:49:35.001 --> 00:49:42.650
I can't tell you how many times somebody threw some horrific insult at me and I replied thank you for your good opinion.
00:49:42.650 --> 00:49:43.885
I'll try and live up to it.
00:49:43.885 --> 00:49:46.688
So that was a really helpful line.
00:49:46.688 --> 00:49:48.447
I still use it to this day.
00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:50.867
Yeah, oh, there's so many good ones.
00:49:50.867 --> 00:49:58.952
I the one, the the one that I use with Claire all the time, is in a film called EM.8.
00:49:58.952 --> 00:50:08.880
They're doing a tour around organization and they get to this this character, I think he's the public public executive secretary.
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:23.623
He's sort of over the divisions that are supposed to get people into Scientology, and it's played by the actor Michael D Roberts, right, and they're talking about some person who's not doing good on the job and he can't.
00:50:23.623 --> 00:50:29.009
He can't get new people in, and then Michael Roberts says can't have that.
00:50:29.009 --> 00:50:30.726
If so, replace.
00:50:31.922 --> 00:50:36.061
And yeah, and so whenever somebody says, oh, I've got my Claire, I'll be.
00:50:36.061 --> 00:50:41.266
Oh, this, this person's doing this and they're not exactly getting it right, I'll be like can't have that.
00:50:41.266 --> 00:50:43.045
If so, replace.
00:50:43.539 --> 00:50:47.369
Yeah, and if you really, if you live that life, it just really brings you back.
00:50:47.369 --> 00:50:55.418
Yes, hey, I can't bring up the the comments, but if you could bring this one up, yeah, from Russ T, it's a 340.
00:50:55.822 --> 00:50:56.637
Yeah, 340.
00:50:56.840 --> 00:50:59.989
He's one of the three people that are watching us because we've bored everybody to death.
00:51:00.922 --> 00:51:03.110
No, there's like almost 500 people.
00:51:03.110 --> 00:51:05.545
No, I'm just joking, mark, bring this one up from Russ T.
00:51:05.545 --> 00:51:07.440
Yeah, I'm getting there.
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:07.702
I'm.
00:51:07.702 --> 00:51:10.085
I'm so far down 340.
00:51:10.085 --> 00:51:12.019
It's each starred, it's a starred comment.
00:51:12.019 --> 00:51:15.016
Well, that's easier than yeah, Sorry about the Russ T?
00:51:15.056 --> 00:51:16.780
There you go, he's at the bottom there, hey.
00:51:16.780 --> 00:51:20.286
So Russ T yeah, you're right, the original version was with Charlie Rush.
00:51:20.286 --> 00:51:25.628
But that was three dates, even hour or two that was the one earlier when I said that they never released it.
00:51:25.628 --> 00:51:28.268
They never even finished that version with Charlie Rush.
00:51:28.268 --> 00:51:30.125
That's the one when I looked at it.
00:51:30.125 --> 00:51:35.818
I went no way no way, I'm going to base this on a Victor Fleming film from 1943.
00:51:36.219 --> 00:51:37.125
You know it's so funny.
00:51:37.125 --> 00:51:41.525
I don't know who this Russ T guy is, but he knows some shit.
00:51:41.525 --> 00:51:42.384
He knows some stuff.
00:51:42.384 --> 00:51:43.141
Oh no, he.
00:51:43.141 --> 00:51:52.286
He commented on at least the last one, maybe both of the last ones, and he was tweaking some of the things that we said like, oh, that happened, but it was this or it was that.
00:51:52.447 --> 00:51:59.809
Oh yeah, I was like, oh, this dude was there that there's names and things Even nobody would have known, even the name Charlie Rush.
00:52:00.130 --> 00:52:02.887
That's right, and also that it was Charlie Rush.
00:52:02.887 --> 00:52:08.650
It absolutely was Charlie Rush, and that this one wasn't the one that we were talking about.
00:52:08.699 --> 00:52:09.684
We don't remember that one.
00:52:09.684 --> 00:52:10.744
Yeah, the one with Katie.
00:52:10.784 --> 00:52:13.592
Mitchell, who was the second person that was this film.
00:52:13.639 --> 00:52:15.766
We need to dig up Katie Mitchell and get her on.
00:52:15.766 --> 00:52:20.045
I'm telling you, I'm friends with her on Facebook, yeah, but you know what does that mean?
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:23.088
Well, that means, if I messenger, she might be serving back.
00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:25.106
No, it means you know how to contact her.
00:52:25.106 --> 00:52:26.324
Yeah, will you please tell her?
00:52:26.324 --> 00:52:27.989
I said hello, I will.
00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:34.023
I'll send her a link to this video saying hey, we were talking about one of the films you were in you might as well be there.
00:52:34.023 --> 00:52:35.844
You might as well hang out and talk.
00:52:36.025 --> 00:52:37.268
Yeah, exactly Exactly.
00:52:37.268 --> 00:52:38.010
We'll get you some.
00:52:38.010 --> 00:52:40.387
We'll get you some new, brand new attention.
00:52:40.387 --> 00:52:41.423
I don't know what she's doing.
00:52:41.423 --> 00:52:43.226
Person's an incredible actress.
00:52:43.226 --> 00:52:57.275
So what we know about Russ T is that this film was he was at gold before 1990, because I don't think anybody outside of gold saw that Charlie Rush the very possible.
00:52:57.317 --> 00:53:00.289
Yeah so also the things that he knows about as well.
00:53:00.289 --> 00:53:06.525
Oh, I'll tell you one of the things that kind of locked him up for me that he knew what he was talking about.
00:53:06.525 --> 00:53:14.007
So I always knew that when Scientology bought the golf course, right, they bought it.
00:53:14.007 --> 00:53:19.286
What I was told is that they bought it and the people that bought it was not Scientology.
00:53:19.286 --> 00:53:24.570
It was called the Scottish Highlands Quietude Society.
00:53:24.831 --> 00:53:25.733
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
00:53:26.079 --> 00:53:26.983
That's what I was told.
00:53:26.983 --> 00:53:29.025
That's true, I was told the same thing.
00:53:29.025 --> 00:53:34.143
Ok, you know what the initials of that are SHQ.
00:53:34.143 --> 00:53:49.208
So it was a funny joke that they made Because summer headquarters, Because Gilman Hauntsprings was going to be the summer headquarters and the place in La Quinta which I don't remember if it was you or somebody else who brought this up.
00:53:49.208 --> 00:53:50.885
They're 45 minutes to.
00:53:50.940 --> 00:53:51.864
Yeah, yeah, no, it was me.
00:53:51.864 --> 00:53:59.510
I actually, when I was writing my book, I'm like, ok, I have to be accurate on the distance between the two.
00:53:59.510 --> 00:54:02.161
It's actually 60 miles and then I went.
00:54:02.161 --> 00:54:03.186
Well, that's interesting.
00:54:03.186 --> 00:54:08.304
Let me look up the mean average temperature difference 10 degrees.
00:54:08.304 --> 00:54:13.184
So that means when it's 120 in La Quinta it's 110 at Gilman Hauntsprings.
00:54:13.184 --> 00:54:19.387
The summer, the summer headquarters yeah there's your summer headquarters, not some alpine mountain retreat.
00:54:19.387 --> 00:54:22.469
You know they could have gone up to Big Bear, just they couldn't.
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:24.483
They could have that studio Another hour.
00:54:24.483 --> 00:54:27.750
Yeah, the facility that they had up there could have easily.
00:54:27.820 --> 00:54:31.233
Well, they didn't have it yet, but but that doesn't matter.
00:54:31.233 --> 00:54:33.019
They want something done, they'll do it.
00:54:33.019 --> 00:54:35.407
You know that they got all the slave labor they need.
00:54:36.001 --> 00:54:37.387
Oh, my goodness Anyway.
00:54:37.387 --> 00:54:41.030
So yeah, he said that SHQ was a joke.
00:54:41.030 --> 00:54:42.947
The Scottis Highlands Quiettutes.
00:54:43.139 --> 00:54:44.364
This guy was probably.
00:54:44.364 --> 00:54:48.625
We're calling you out, rusty, you know, because, remember it was.
00:54:48.625 --> 00:54:53.168
I was told it was the Gurdians office that made that purchase.
00:54:53.168 --> 00:54:56.795
Yeah, because they were looking for a hideout for hover.
00:54:56.896 --> 00:54:57.719
Right yeah.
00:54:57.719 --> 00:55:07.905
And it was at the time it was sort of like it's called Gilman Hot Springs because they're they're used to actually be hot springs, and this is a crazy story.
00:55:07.905 --> 00:55:14.168
I don't know if anybody's ever told this story, but there were hot springs in Gilman Hot Springs.
00:55:14.168 --> 00:55:27.086
Right, a lot of people don't know this, but on the other side of the mountain from Gilman Hot Springs, there is a super, super top secret government facility.
00:55:27.086 --> 00:55:28.972
That's inside the mountain.
00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:34.699
Yeah, to the east, like you can go Google Maps, yes, and you can look at what Mark's saying.
00:55:34.699 --> 00:55:42.831
It's to the east of Gold and you will see a blurry spot on Google Maps which has obviously been wiped out.
00:55:42.831 --> 00:55:44.547
It's obviously whatever photos there.
00:55:45.201 --> 00:55:50.347
Yeah, but also there's a whole road system over there that, yeah, goes nowhere to the mountains.
00:55:50.347 --> 00:55:53.039
It looks like they just dead end into the map.
00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:54.485
Yeah, all over the place.
00:55:54.960 --> 00:56:00.387
People don't know this, but actually every map you see on Google Maps is cleared by the US military.
00:56:01.402 --> 00:56:02.025
Google is not.
00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:06.543
Yeah, well, I know for a fact because I met a guy who has a private company.
00:56:06.543 --> 00:56:24.710
I'm talking about the satellite photos yeah, not the regular maps but I met the guy who has a private company that does the launches for Google to provide them with the photography, and all of that is turned over to the US Air Force and then cleared by Google, so it's all vetted.
00:56:24.710 --> 00:56:29.969
So, yeah, nobody knows, not even the crazy curious Scientologists know.
00:56:30.579 --> 00:56:43.784
But as a result of the government building this complex inside the mountain, they hit the springs and they dried up that when they were digging in that way, I heard that the government did.
00:56:44.300 --> 00:56:50.485
I heard they were just trying to divert a river and the Army Corps of Engineers like that's this, that's the story.
00:56:50.485 --> 00:56:51.322
That's the plausible.
00:56:51.322 --> 00:56:52.467
Why would they be digging?
00:56:52.527 --> 00:56:52.949
in there.
00:56:52.949 --> 00:56:55.226
Why would they be digging in the mountain behind where?
00:56:55.246 --> 00:56:56.030
What do you think it is?
00:56:56.030 --> 00:56:57.083
Do you know what it is?
00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:06.844
I have no idea, actually, but I do know that there had been people at the base that went up to the top of the mountain above the base and they never came back.
00:57:07.266 --> 00:57:07.628
No, no, no.
00:57:07.628 --> 00:57:11.369
When they went up there, there were guys with machine guns at the top of the mountain.
00:57:11.369 --> 00:57:12.391
Oh nice, really nice.
00:57:12.391 --> 00:57:23.369
But the best part is that sometimes SPs would try to infiltrate the base and they'd come up over the other side of the mountain and these guys with machine guns would be there.
00:57:23.369 --> 00:57:29.048
And then they would say oh my god, scientology's got guys with machine guns on top of the mountain that are guarding.
00:57:29.048 --> 00:57:34.306
And then there's all these stories about people with machine guns guarding the base.
00:57:34.306 --> 00:57:41.007
And when I got out I saw the stories I was like, yeah, those weren't us, those were the guys on the other side of the mountain.
00:57:41.007 --> 00:57:42.902
Yeah, the government they were trying to.
00:57:42.902 --> 00:57:45.804
They would do the same to us if we went up there.
00:57:47.382 --> 00:57:48.608
So they tried up the springs.
00:57:48.840 --> 00:57:54.824
And then this old man, old man Gilman, who ran the springs for all these years.
00:57:54.824 --> 00:58:01.255
He took boilers, steam boilers, and he built them into all the underground springs.
00:58:01.255 --> 00:58:07.847
Oh my god, so he kept the springs running for like another 34 years, 30, 40 years with all these boilers.
00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:20.211
Yeah, with table salt and boilers, and then at some point, some ex-employees and all telling old Gilman secrets that the springs were no longer active.
00:58:20.211 --> 00:58:29.865
And so that's when it was sort of at the end of its days as a resort that Scientology scooped it up, and I want to say the late 70s.
00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:35.882
Yeah, well, according to a video I did on YouTube, so it has to be true I have.
00:58:35.882 --> 00:58:36.485
What's her name?
00:58:36.485 --> 00:58:43.728
The woman, Kathy Frazier, who sent me the letter telling me I needed to go sit in the corner and feel really bad about speaking out on YouTube.
00:58:44.050 --> 00:58:44.250
Yeah.
00:58:44.659 --> 00:58:45.121
The bad man.
00:58:45.121 --> 00:58:45.744
You're a bad man.
00:58:45.744 --> 00:58:48.003
You're a bad man, that's the letter In that video.
00:58:48.003 --> 00:58:55.224
In the gold video, the one that I was in, that I did the response to do too, and I also did a short on what she says.
00:58:55.224 --> 00:58:57.230
When it was, when was it?
00:58:57.230 --> 00:58:58.172
Yeah, I don't know.
00:58:58.172 --> 00:58:59.385
I have to look again after that.
00:58:59.385 --> 00:59:00.704
It was like you say.
00:59:00.704 --> 00:59:02.827
It was in the 70s.
00:59:02.827 --> 00:59:06.369
Yeah, prior to 1980s.
00:59:07.110 --> 00:59:07.731
Ok, awesome.
00:59:07.731 --> 00:59:11.469
Oh, here's another comment from Gary Jackson-Moorhead hey my brothers.
00:59:11.469 --> 00:59:16.666
Jackson, you can say hey my brothers without having to send a super chat, because I'm pretty sure you have both of our phone numbers.
00:59:16.666 --> 00:59:18.746
You are certainly in your groove, mark.
00:59:18.746 --> 00:59:20.045
You just said cans.
00:59:20.045 --> 00:59:22.123
I did when you left.
00:59:22.123 --> 00:59:26.552
I said when Mitch gets his cans back on.
00:59:28.123 --> 00:59:30.465
I will tell you guys the rest of this and.
00:59:30.626 --> 00:59:32.983
I might have slipped and said cans, so sorry about that.
00:59:32.983 --> 00:59:35.800
Guys, headphones is how most people refer to them.
00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:39.864
Yeah well, I wear cans because they're actually cheaper than a good toupee.
00:59:41.047 --> 00:59:43.436
That's a good idea, I didn't ever think about that.
00:59:43.436 --> 00:59:48.505
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I have seen you wear those headphones for almost the entire time.
00:59:49.208 --> 00:59:50.293
I knew Mitch Exactly.
00:59:50.293 --> 00:59:53.646
These are the headphones Exactly MTR 7506's.
00:59:53.666 --> 00:59:54.047
Sonys.
00:59:54.047 --> 01:00:04.461
But whenever Mitch would be directing, he'd be sitting at the video cart and he would usually have his headphones on or he'd have them around his neck Often like this, often.
01:00:04.461 --> 01:00:09.460
I would just do this because but he always had a pair of those exact headphones.
01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:12.244
Yeah, yeah, these are standard gold.
01:00:12.244 --> 01:00:14.130
Yeah, they're good for the money.
01:00:14.130 --> 01:00:15.364
They're the best headphones you can get.
01:00:15.639 --> 01:00:17.226
Yeah, awesome.
01:00:17.226 --> 01:00:20.329
Ok, here's another super sticker from Elizabeth Sarah.
01:00:20.329 --> 01:00:21.047
Thank you for that.
01:00:21.047 --> 01:00:22.079
Elizabeth Appreciate it.
01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:23.405
You can ask a question if you want.
01:00:23.405 --> 01:00:26.849
Carolyn also sent us this super sticker.
01:00:26.869 --> 01:00:28.764
Nice, they don't have questions.
01:00:28.764 --> 01:00:31.184
I know, let's see if we can.
01:00:31.264 --> 01:00:34.012
Actually, if you want, we can look.
01:00:34.012 --> 01:00:36.431
Is there anything else we need to talk about for the film?
01:00:36.431 --> 01:00:37.423
I can't think of anything.
01:00:37.865 --> 01:00:38.367
I don't know.
01:00:38.367 --> 01:00:41.789
I mean, the film was this particular production.
01:00:41.789 --> 01:00:53.824
Once we got through the whole air flight thing, blah, blah, blah, it was relatively uneventful compared to, let's say, the next film we're going to talk about, where we almost killed people.
01:00:55.621 --> 01:00:57.456
Well, the one person?
01:00:57.456 --> 01:01:00.900
Yeah, but then which film are you talking about?
01:01:01.059 --> 01:01:05.255
I'm talking about the, the tier 14, which I think you do.
01:01:05.255 --> 01:01:06.481
Oh, yeah, because we were.
01:01:06.481 --> 01:01:09.523
That was the one we were shooting in hell with real fire.
01:01:09.523 --> 01:01:27.403
Yes and the puppeteer, or the puppeteer who was working in the devil's tail, and so he was up in the greens, up in the scaffolding, on a studio, probably 60 feet off the ground, on a two foot wide board, and it was so about 120 degrees up there, and he fell asleep and he almost rolled off.
01:01:27.925 --> 01:01:28.385
Yes.
01:01:28.867 --> 01:01:33.842
Or I'm laughing, but anyway, yeah, so yeah, we had a lot of stories from that one we do.
01:01:34.820 --> 01:01:36.666
Ok, if you do have a question.
01:01:36.666 --> 01:01:38.724
Oh, there's ICCC.
01:01:38.724 --> 01:01:41.987
My friend CC Clare did a video with her.
01:01:41.987 --> 01:01:43.463
She's sort of like my.
01:01:43.463 --> 01:01:49.186
My boys adopted grandmother CC's comfort cooking.
01:01:49.186 --> 01:01:50.847
She has a YouTube channel on SPTV.
01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:54.664
Hi everybody from Hannibal Missouri, cc's comfort cooking.
01:01:54.664 --> 01:01:58.842
Anybody who hasn't subscribed to CC's channel, she get over there too.
01:01:58.842 --> 01:01:59.802
Thank you, cc.
01:01:59.802 --> 01:02:03.166
Hi there, ok, if you, let's just see.
01:02:03.166 --> 01:02:03.983
I don't see.
01:02:03.983 --> 01:02:10.827
Usually, if you have a question, people put in question before it, and so I don't see a lot of those.
01:02:10.827 --> 01:02:25.646
So I mean we are really really deep in the Scientology weeds with these videos, but you know a lot of people that aren't in the film industry or aren't in the TV or Hollywood or whatever, and weren't in Scientology.
01:02:25.646 --> 01:02:27.043
This is all new stuff to them.
01:02:27.043 --> 01:02:28.027
So there you go.
01:02:28.248 --> 01:02:29.681
Whatever, yeah also.
01:02:29.681 --> 01:02:40.211
I mean I really can't stress enough, going back to talking about solo auditing itself how, what an incredible, massive scam this is.
01:02:40.211 --> 01:02:56.048
I mean it's getting people to audit themselves, getting people to pay like a lot of money to just go into a room or at home for hours and hours and hours to do this and then present that to people like it was some solution to them not having to go to England.
01:02:56.048 --> 01:02:57.385
That's really all it was.
01:02:57.385 --> 01:03:02.025
It's pretty amazing, the whole aspect of it.
01:03:02.659 --> 01:03:04.306
Yeah, and I think you're right.
01:03:04.306 --> 01:03:12.822
I think they you would audit if you when you get to well, the place where you do this solo auditing is after you learn about.
01:03:12.822 --> 01:03:26.456
Zinu and the body that is my favorite rock band, yeah when you, when you learn about Zinu and you learn about the body that is, after you do all that, you then are supposed to audit yourself and get rid of all these body things.
01:03:26.456 --> 01:03:27.460
Right, you got to talk to them.
01:03:27.460 --> 01:03:30.827
Clarivoyal, yeah, but this goes on for years, guys.
01:03:30.940 --> 01:03:32.907
Yeah like you could spend that.
01:03:32.907 --> 01:03:48.409
I mean, there's people in Scientology right now who've been doing this for 10, 15, 20 years and you do it yourself and you're supposed to do it several times a day and you have a briefcase and you got to lock it up.
01:03:48.409 --> 01:04:04.467
And you got to lock up your folder that you keep all your notes in, but every six months, for however long you do it, if it's 20 years, every six months you have to do what's called a sixth month check and so you say I'm auditing, I'm auditing.
01:04:04.467 --> 01:04:11.811
Well, every six months, you got to basically turn in all your documentation that you have been doing this auditing.
01:04:11.980 --> 01:04:15.646
Yeah, you have to go to Clearwater to do it right, you have to go to Clearwater, florida.
01:04:15.646 --> 01:04:21.246
That's this place they call the Flag Land Base, or FLB, or Clearwater, whatever.
01:04:21.246 --> 01:04:26.030
You go there and then they interview you on the meter.
01:04:26.030 --> 01:04:28.472
You're not doing anything solo.
01:04:28.472 --> 01:04:28.916
When you get, there.
01:04:28.936 --> 01:04:29.340
Well, I interview you.
01:04:29.340 --> 01:04:34.509
That's a nice way of putting it, Mark, that's why you basically get the good old scrub down.
01:04:34.509 --> 01:04:36.387
You have to see if there's any.
01:04:36.519 --> 01:04:41.188
If there's a speck of dirt on you, then you need to pay for them to clean up that dirt.
01:04:41.188 --> 01:04:42.123
Oh, big time.
01:04:42.123 --> 01:05:11.050
And if you haven't been auditing as much as you're supposed to, or maybe you told your significant other about the body fatins, or like they're asking you all this stuff because they got to keep the wraps on this whole Zee News story, which to me, which now to me, seems very I mean, they have a very, very intricate security system to keep the Zee News stuff private and confidential.
01:05:11.050 --> 01:05:19.431
But you can just go on the internet and go to a Southpac episode and you'll find out pretty much the 90% of the story with nothing.
01:05:19.431 --> 01:05:22.548
So I'm not sure what they're keeping secret anymore.
01:05:22.548 --> 01:05:42.630
But regardless, that is this solo auditor film, and the solo auditor course is what you have to do in order to start auditing and addressing these tens of thousands of space aliens that are stuck to you.
01:05:42.679 --> 01:05:43.844
I never got rid of them all.
01:05:43.844 --> 01:05:46.882
I actually started to become real friendly with them after a while.
01:05:48.222 --> 01:05:51.268
Oh, I was hanging out with Zee News the other night because Zee News is my homeboy.
01:05:51.268 --> 01:05:54.322
Right, right you can go to the Blum4Good store and get Zee News as my homeboy.
01:05:54.322 --> 01:05:56.528
Mugs, stickers, hats and hoodies.
01:05:56.548 --> 01:05:57.802
Yeah, go now, don't wait.
01:05:58.780 --> 01:06:12.045
But when I was hanging out with Zee News the other day he said he's got plans to make a whole bunch of more body things because the planet of his, or solar system or whatever, was overpopulated.
01:06:12.045 --> 01:06:19.688
It's not like they're getting rid of all those souls solved, it just kind of kept it at bay.
01:06:19.940 --> 01:06:21.567
Yeah, you know, he never counted on immigration.
01:06:21.567 --> 01:06:22.945
Immigration is what killed them.
01:06:22.945 --> 01:06:27.155
Well, from other star systems, they had all these people in there.
01:06:27.639 --> 01:06:35.288
It's just saying once the Intergalactic Federation changed ownership or whatever changed management.
01:06:35.719 --> 01:06:37.568
Things have just gone to shit in the universe.
01:06:37.568 --> 01:06:38.302
Yeah, totally.
01:06:38.302 --> 01:06:39.824
Hey, can you?
01:06:39.824 --> 01:06:40.606
There's a question?
01:06:40.606 --> 01:06:46.141
Let me see if I can find it OK from Andy Fabulous, yeah you can start it here.
01:06:46.141 --> 01:06:47.025
Let me start right now.
01:06:47.065 --> 01:06:47.405
There you go.
01:06:47.405 --> 01:06:50.664
If you just start which ones you want to pick up, then I can just pull those up.
01:06:50.925 --> 01:06:51.306
My start.
01:06:51.306 --> 01:06:51.949
I can't start.
01:06:51.949 --> 01:06:53.021
What brand of is it?
01:06:53.043 --> 01:06:54.224
the brand of liqueur.
01:06:54.224 --> 01:06:55.148
Does Zee News drink?
01:06:56.170 --> 01:06:59.266
Yeah, ok, andy, fabulous the brand of beer slash liquor.
01:06:59.306 --> 01:07:00.048
does Zee News drink?
01:07:00.048 --> 01:07:01.385
That's an interesting question.
01:07:01.679 --> 01:07:05.869
Probably, I would think, german beer would say something.
01:07:06.351 --> 01:07:06.913
I'll find out.
01:07:06.913 --> 01:07:12.429
You can research the yeah, or we could just make one up and then tell everybody that that's the one.
01:07:12.429 --> 01:07:22.835
Yeah, so Andy back it does have to have some sort of semblance to the answer, so it can't just be like oh he likes Tito's we got to make a good backstory?
01:07:23.016 --> 01:07:23.458
Yeah, exactly.
01:07:23.599 --> 01:07:28.447
Glycol, probably glycol and something else, because that's what he is when he throws those guys.
01:07:29.380 --> 01:07:30.987
He had a lot of glycol on hand.
01:07:31.059 --> 01:07:33.286
So whatever we put, it's got to have some glycol.
01:07:33.306 --> 01:07:37.289
Yeah, ok, so check this out Back, for I'm going to work on that immediately.
01:07:37.289 --> 01:07:39.025
We'll have the beer.
01:07:39.025 --> 01:07:41.768
We'll have that answer when we do the next film.
01:07:41.768 --> 01:07:44.686
We'll probably even have an illustration of it.
01:07:45.307 --> 01:07:46.844
Yeah, was there a number I?
01:07:46.885 --> 01:07:48.967
have to Andy Fabulous in 404.
01:07:48.967 --> 01:07:51.065
He just asked a question.
01:07:51.065 --> 01:07:53.146
It's no variety.
01:07:54.320 --> 01:07:57.585
OK, good, I'll go to it, yeah because I can't star.
01:07:57.920 --> 01:08:00.228
Next time you need to give me that extra.
01:08:00.699 --> 01:08:02.023
Yeah, I don't know how that works.
01:08:02.365 --> 01:08:03.228
I'll have to ask Aaron.
01:08:03.228 --> 01:08:04.943
He knows he's got all the insight.
01:08:06.900 --> 01:08:07.945
I think the share.
01:08:07.945 --> 01:08:10.385
Yeah, I'm at 404.
01:08:10.385 --> 01:08:11.349
I'm just looking, you see.
01:08:11.429 --> 01:08:11.889
Andy Fabulous.
01:08:11.889 --> 01:08:14.146
He had a question, mitch, did you need to study?
01:08:14.146 --> 01:08:16.506
This is a really interesting question.
01:08:16.506 --> 01:08:17.925
It has a very simple answer.
01:08:18.520 --> 01:08:20.265
I think it's on your channel, so I can't see.
01:08:20.728 --> 01:08:21.088
Oh really.
01:08:21.088 --> 01:08:22.444
Ok so, but I can't click on it.
01:08:22.444 --> 01:08:22.867
It doesn't go.
01:08:22.867 --> 01:08:25.106
But anyway, the question is, I can't show it.
01:08:25.106 --> 01:08:33.310
The question is, mitch, did you need to stay up on human psychology in order to make a film that could capture a person into brainwashing themselves?
01:08:33.310 --> 01:08:39.283
The answer to that is no, because I had Elron Hubbard as my co-pilot.
01:08:39.283 --> 01:08:42.703
He did all that heavy lifting For me.
01:08:42.703 --> 01:08:44.908
I just had to make it look good.
01:08:44.908 --> 01:09:08.831
So, no, I did not have to know anything about human psychology, although I did know a lot about human psychology, and the Church of Scientology would be shocked at how much Eastern philosophy and research psychology I drew upon for writing their television ads, because I couldn't find anything that Hubbard wrote that was worth using to inspire for an ad.
01:09:08.831 --> 01:09:10.487
So anyway, that's the answer.
01:09:10.487 --> 01:09:11.664
He did all that stuff.
01:09:11.664 --> 01:09:13.143
I just put a nice.
01:09:13.143 --> 01:09:19.661
What we did, me and Mark, we just put the shit on tapes or we made it into films or we.
01:09:19.661 --> 01:09:23.289
But we didn't have to jack all about psychology.
01:09:23.289 --> 01:09:26.073
Psychology wasn't even a thing, right?
01:09:26.119 --> 01:09:27.002
Yeah, I don't need.
01:09:27.002 --> 01:09:32.890
I mean, I haven't even read Dianetics, so you didn't have to be versed in Scientology.
01:09:32.960 --> 01:09:38.532
Although I had to read it four times under stop-o supervision, he did.
01:09:39.220 --> 01:09:44.760
But I'm just saying, in order for me to do my job, I just needed to be a good worker, I didn't need to know anything.
01:09:44.760 --> 01:09:46.747
Yeah, you were lucky, mark, you were lucky.
01:09:47.159 --> 01:09:49.427
You've got to keep most of your identity.
01:09:49.427 --> 01:09:50.926
It's one of the things I admire about you.
01:09:50.926 --> 01:09:57.251
You've got to keep most of your identity intact and your resilience and just develop good work ethic.
01:09:57.251 --> 01:10:00.047
I mean, you're like in that way.
01:10:00.047 --> 01:10:01.220
I think you're that's true.
01:10:01.220 --> 01:10:03.007
In that way, I think you're fortunate.
01:10:03.007 --> 01:10:05.106
And there's a few people like that.
01:10:05.106 --> 01:10:09.221
I think Sterling is like that as well, sterling Tompkins yeah, he's like.
01:10:09.221 --> 01:10:21.286
There were a number of people, and they're like, who joined the Sea Org and they were more Sea Org workers and they were Scientologists and so Scientology didn't really have a real chance to dump its stink on them.
01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:23.627
Yeah, you know, I think you're really right.
01:10:23.627 --> 01:10:25.445
I was trying to think of another person like that.
01:10:25.445 --> 01:10:26.028
I think you're right.
01:10:26.028 --> 01:10:27.342
Sterling is another one of those.
01:10:27.403 --> 01:10:28.685
He grew up in there there's a few.
01:10:28.806 --> 01:10:30.390
There's a few, but he was really just working.
01:10:30.390 --> 01:10:31.643
He never.
01:10:31.643 --> 01:10:32.024
Really I want to.
01:10:32.164 --> 01:10:32.445
I don't.
01:10:32.445 --> 01:10:34.766
I heard him talking about it today.
01:10:34.766 --> 01:10:36.182
He didn't do Jack all the time.
01:10:36.243 --> 01:10:36.645
Oh, he didn't.
01:10:36.645 --> 01:10:37.667
Okay, I didn't know.
01:10:37.667 --> 01:10:40.104
I don't want to say, oh, he didn't do Jack all and he's like dude.
01:10:40.104 --> 01:10:41.420
I spent seven years studying.
01:10:41.420 --> 01:10:42.213
He was talking to.
01:10:42.234 --> 01:10:47.387
Aaron today and he's like I did this and my student hat was just like as far as he got, oh yeah.
01:10:47.779 --> 01:10:50.798
So he's a green weenie too, and it comes all the brainwashing.
01:10:50.840 --> 01:10:51.381
He's just not.
01:10:51.381 --> 01:10:59.203
He's unadulterated, with all that that crazy shit that just you just here.
01:10:59.203 --> 01:11:01.703
Let me take my identity and I'll rip it out.
01:11:01.703 --> 01:11:03.585
Okay, you can take that.
01:11:03.585 --> 01:11:05.166
Let me take this one and I'll just.
01:11:05.166 --> 01:11:06.302
Oh, yeah, I'll take this one.
01:11:06.302 --> 01:11:08.427
Okay, yeah, I have body things.
01:11:08.427 --> 01:11:11.015
That's who I am, and you're like what?
01:11:11.015 --> 01:11:12.463
You just lose your identity.
01:11:13.460 --> 01:11:16.264
Okay, here's a good one, John Satowski.
01:11:16.264 --> 01:11:17.027
Thank you for that, john.
01:11:17.027 --> 01:11:20.509
Did Mitch do cameo walk through like Hitchcock?
01:11:20.509 --> 01:11:22.204
You know, I don't think you were.
01:11:22.720 --> 01:11:24.608
I don't remember you ever being in one film.
01:11:24.608 --> 01:11:25.582
Which one?
01:11:25.582 --> 01:11:29.188
No, I did no, you were in it.
01:11:29.188 --> 01:11:34.168
We were both in a film together, in the doll film with Danny Masterson.
01:11:34.400 --> 01:11:35.203
Oh, yes, okay.
01:11:35.720 --> 01:11:36.704
I ran down the stairs.
01:11:36.704 --> 01:11:39.805
I needed there was a shot just feet running on the stairs.
01:11:39.805 --> 01:11:44.266
Yes, it was supposed to be one particular character and the guy was not a good.
01:11:44.266 --> 01:11:48.666
I needed a person to shuffle down the stairs and I had an exact visual image of it.
01:11:48.666 --> 01:11:56.747
Yeah, and we did like 50 takes and I said I grabbed the guy, dragged him to wardrobe, I took his costume off and then I just ran down.
01:11:56.747 --> 01:11:59.488
I shuffled down the stairs the way I wanted it to be.
01:11:59.488 --> 01:12:01.506
But that was like my big cameo.
01:12:01.506 --> 01:12:03.327
I did it in the way to happiness films.
01:12:03.327 --> 01:12:04.222
I did a full on.
01:12:04.965 --> 01:12:06.029
but that was years later.
01:12:06.520 --> 01:12:07.184
That's whatever.
01:12:07.184 --> 01:12:12.466
It's not a tech film, so it's not special, because only the tech films are special.
01:12:12.525 --> 01:12:19.220
Yeah, gary Jackson Moorhead says I have the deets and info on the water and test sites back there.
01:12:19.220 --> 01:12:21.868
He's talking about the secret government facility.
01:12:21.868 --> 01:12:23.002
No machine guns.
01:12:23.002 --> 01:12:25.087
Machine guns what, oh man?
01:12:25.568 --> 01:12:27.072
No, that's a bummer.
01:12:27.340 --> 01:12:28.905
Well, yeah, so that's the thing.
01:12:28.905 --> 01:12:33.722
Maybe these people that went up there and said they were machine guns, maybe they were just.
01:12:33.722 --> 01:12:35.427
Maybe they brought them.
01:12:35.427 --> 01:12:35.949
I don't know.
01:12:35.949 --> 01:12:41.449
I don't know where the machine guns ever came from, but there were Lockheed security that were up there.
01:12:41.449 --> 01:12:42.864
I don't know about the guns part.
01:12:42.864 --> 01:12:48.345
They might have been intermittent machine guns Might have been when they were up to stuff.
01:12:48.881 --> 01:12:50.963
They said oh Jackson's coming, put the machine guns away.
01:12:52.079 --> 01:12:53.426
Remember the movie Heaven Can Wait.
01:12:53.426 --> 01:12:55.648
Mitch should do a movie called Scientology.
01:12:55.648 --> 01:12:56.845
Can Wait for LRH.
01:12:57.340 --> 01:12:58.966
Yeah, I got better things to do.
01:12:58.966 --> 01:12:59.649
What would that be?
01:12:59.760 --> 01:13:04.747
That would be like I don't know, I think somebody should do a Zee New thing.
01:13:04.747 --> 01:13:12.488
It would be amazing If you knew the whole Zee New story and this is sort of my argument for Scientologists.
01:13:12.488 --> 01:13:20.509
Okay, let's pretend the Zee New thing is 100% true and Hubbard nailed it Right.
01:13:20.509 --> 01:13:37.784
If there is a space alien capable of interdimensional travel that spent nine weeks at light speed to bring billions and billions of people from his solar system to our solar system and that's a real thing, yeah, in DC-9s.
01:13:37.784 --> 01:13:41.890
In DC-9s that had space jets instead of propellers.
01:13:42.100 --> 01:13:43.198
Well they look like DC-9s, but they weren't.
01:13:43.239 --> 01:13:43.721
This is what.
01:13:43.761 --> 01:13:55.010
Hubbard said in the thing that the space planes that Lord Zee New used for intergalactic travel they look like DC-9s.
01:13:55.010 --> 01:13:59.809
Is that a McDonald Douglas plane, a DC-9?
01:14:00.100 --> 01:14:01.466
I believe so a Boeing.
01:14:01.466 --> 01:14:02.863
No, I think it's Boeing, boeing.
01:14:02.863 --> 01:14:03.979
Okay, so Boeing and International.
01:14:03.979 --> 01:14:04.662
I went to our school.
01:14:04.662 --> 01:14:05.646
I don't know about that.
01:14:06.020 --> 01:14:09.911
International galactic dictator used the same manufacturer.
01:14:09.911 --> 01:14:12.444
Who would have known, anyway?
01:14:12.444 --> 01:14:21.029
If all that is true, then why would Scientology put all their trust in a guy named Dave to protect them from all that?
01:14:21.029 --> 01:14:23.198
He doesn't have anything, that Zee news guy.
01:14:23.238 --> 01:14:23.479
No.
01:14:23.920 --> 01:14:27.972
I'm just saying if it's all real Zee news, my homeboy, I'm signing up with him.
01:14:27.972 --> 01:14:31.603
He's got some some cool tech or not, who knows.
01:14:31.603 --> 01:14:34.077
Okay, here's the Zee new cocktail.
01:14:34.077 --> 01:14:34.698
It's already done.
01:14:34.698 --> 01:14:41.127
John Satowski says the Zee new cocktails Ram, vodka, tequila, gin and whiskey.
01:14:41.127 --> 01:14:41.649
On the rocks.
01:14:41.649 --> 01:14:44.940
You will feel like you were hit with the hydrogen bomb.
01:14:45.930 --> 01:14:55.636
Wow, I'm telling you the the fan contribution here is I'm not sure if you can get a Zee new cocktail.
01:14:55.636 --> 01:14:57.238
It can have to use a little of all.
01:14:57.238 --> 01:15:02.318
I like rum and I like vodka, tequila, gin and whiskey.
01:15:02.318 --> 01:15:03.493
I'm not.
01:15:05.171 --> 01:15:14.697
No, if you, if you, if you put some some kind of a Like a mixer yeah, like a mixer.
01:15:14.756 --> 01:15:25.680
Like a like a like a citrusy mixer yeah, like a ginger ale, or maybe lemon juice or a lime juice, I think this could work could do the Zee new mule Maybe you can make a Zee new mule.
01:15:25.720 --> 01:15:27.369
We could just do this one time, mark.
01:15:27.369 --> 01:15:32.682
We could just get all the ingredients out and just do a Zee new mix ology session where we try different.
01:15:33.190 --> 01:15:37.363
Market Mitch, make a mix, it make a drink, make a Zee new cocktail.
01:15:37.363 --> 01:15:39.130
Anyway, let's work on this one.
01:15:39.130 --> 01:15:47.822
I like the bones of it, john, but let's just, we got a, we got a workshop, but I'm not just gonna say this is it, but it could be, I don't know, we have to try it.
01:15:47.822 --> 01:15:51.984
Okay, let's you think we should show this document.
01:15:52.003 --> 01:15:56.743
Oh, yeah, absolutely, yeah, okay, absolutely, yeah, guys.
01:15:56.984 --> 01:15:58.009
Let me just set this up.
01:15:58.009 --> 01:16:02.260
So we're talking about these films that we were shooting.
01:16:02.260 --> 01:16:06.073
Well, a lot of times there would be these events.
01:16:06.073 --> 01:16:09.903
We've talked about gold putting on these Scientology events.
01:16:09.903 --> 01:16:15.300
Dca is a McDonald Douglas, by the way thank you very much for that.
01:16:15.460 --> 01:16:16.082
Thank you guys.
01:16:16.082 --> 01:16:20.100
Thank you for my all my aerospace knowledge is paying off.
01:16:20.100 --> 01:16:34.121
So we would shoot these events or shoot these films and then sometimes David Miscavige would release them at an event and Most of the people that worked on the films of the videos would also work on the events.
01:16:34.121 --> 01:16:36.916
So there was a sort of a mixed crew.
01:16:36.916 --> 01:16:42.216
But to put on the event was also its own Production in in its own right.
01:16:42.216 --> 01:16:46.515
It could take months and months To put together one of these events.
01:16:46.515 --> 01:16:49.734
In terms of the content of the event, there was a stage.
01:16:49.734 --> 01:16:59.506
So the sets and props guys that built of the, the sets and the props for the films, would also have to build the sets and props for the event.
01:16:59.707 --> 01:17:02.176
And yeah, let me ask you, mark, how long were these events?
01:17:03.831 --> 01:17:05.317
What do you mean it in the length?
01:17:05.317 --> 01:17:05.939
Like what?
01:17:05.939 --> 01:17:07.304
How could any be?
01:17:07.304 --> 01:17:09.130
Usually would be anywhere from two to three hours.
01:17:10.033 --> 01:17:11.862
Was not not a small little thing.
01:17:12.243 --> 01:17:15.175
No, it was a lot of content, it was a lot of production.
01:17:15.175 --> 01:17:20.729
And David Miscavige, he wanted the same production value that he was getting out of the films.
01:17:20.729 --> 01:17:30.658
He wanted the same or better for these events and and that is why the same guys who shot the Super Bowl Were the guys that shot these events.
01:17:30.658 --> 01:17:46.264
So, or set up the broadcast truck and, yeah, tuned all the cameras up and did the audio and the and the live, like, okay, go camera 2 and Set camera 3 and take camera 3, you know, like the guy directing the videoing of this event.
01:17:46.264 --> 01:18:04.429
And so One of these events could have a hundred people that had to work on it to put it on, and if the event went badly, then those hundred people were now in the shit and they would Be like for them until the next event.
01:18:04.429 --> 01:18:09.689
They'd basically be in trouble until they were redeemed on the next event.
01:18:09.689 --> 01:18:23.083
Or if they did so badly, then they were off the event crew and they would get moved into the grounds department to, you know, molons or trim trees or run in the sidewalks, or they just get put on something that had nothing to do with anything.
01:18:23.083 --> 01:18:27.621
So if you, we did one of these events and it went well.
01:18:28.930 --> 01:18:31.737
That was a rare occurrence, it was actually.
01:18:31.737 --> 01:18:36.914
It was actually like there were seven, depending on the year.
01:18:36.914 --> 01:18:49.698
There's anywhere from six to ten of these events a year and Sometimes David, miss Gavage, would just decide that we weren't gonna do a certain event, or we would do a certain event and it'd be even bigger than we normally do.
01:18:49.698 --> 01:18:50.662
So it could go either way.
01:18:50.662 --> 01:19:01.614
But one of the events that we'd go to in England was called the IAS event, the International Association of Scientologists biggest money-making event of the year.
01:19:01.614 --> 01:19:13.923
They they could make anywhere from 20 to 50 to a hundred million dollars at One of these events, because they what they would do is the events that took place in America throughout the year.
01:19:13.923 --> 01:19:15.975
They would hit these people up.
01:19:15.975 --> 01:19:31.506
At every single one of those events They'd hit up a bunch of people, but at the IAS event only the richest, most Dedicated members from all over the world are sort of invited to this event.
01:19:31.787 --> 01:19:32.829
Yeah and yeah.
01:19:32.829 --> 01:19:53.198
And they got showcased right like, for example you hear about these IAS, the membership, whatever, I forget what they're going to patron yeah so if you were, if you earn one of these statuses, then it would be announced at this IAS event you, you get a, you'd get a, called out for it.
01:19:53.198 --> 01:19:56.048
So this was a big deal in Scientology culture.
01:19:56.069 --> 01:20:04.765
I'm Go ahead and if you gave like there's different statuses, but right ones that get you a picture with out with David miscavige.
01:20:04.765 --> 01:20:08.421
They start in the hundreds or millions of dollars to get.
01:20:08.421 --> 01:20:08.721
Yeah.
01:20:09.671 --> 01:20:19.957
Yeah, and this was the event where Tom Cruise famously got the dinner plate size award, the flavor Flav, yeah, the flavor of Scientology award.
01:20:20.439 --> 01:20:23.265
Yeah, this is a big this, this particular event.
01:20:23.265 --> 01:20:27.078
Like Mark said earlier, we there'd be a certain number of events.
01:20:27.078 --> 01:20:30.609
Maybe they do some, maybe they wouldn't, but there were these tentpole events.
01:20:30.609 --> 01:20:39.103
They'd always do New Year's, elvin Hubbard's birthday, the anniversary of the Freedwin ship and the IAS.
01:20:39.103 --> 01:20:40.729
These were always be done.
01:20:40.729 --> 01:20:48.203
And then there may be a dianetic celebration, an auditor day, there may be other ones, but always these are IAS.
01:20:48.203 --> 01:20:49.710
That's a big deal.
01:20:49.710 --> 01:20:53.779
I mean they kid, they hire the, the, the royal caterer.
01:20:53.779 --> 01:20:56.224
I mean they do like crazy stuff.
01:20:56.930 --> 01:21:01.582
Yeah well, the so of an event we would put on for IAS.
01:21:01.582 --> 01:21:24.144
That's about a million dollars Scientology would spend, and so Scientology, the Church of Scientology International, would spend money to make things for that event, and and the IAS, the International Associations of Scientologists International, would would bear the brunt of the major portion of that budget.
01:21:24.144 --> 01:21:35.229
And they had a Dictate that the maximum of money that could be spent was would be the interest on their, on their earnings of their investments.
01:21:35.229 --> 01:21:42.452
They could not spend well more on a budget than what they're making on the interest of their that's amazing.
01:21:42.492 --> 01:21:43.395
I did not know that.
01:21:43.876 --> 01:21:50.335
Yeah, so the so we would always, and they would calculate out how much they needed for the year based on Whatever they were making.
01:21:50.335 --> 01:21:52.713
Somebody somewhere had an exact figure.
01:21:52.713 --> 01:21:57.242
So when we would do one of these events, they'd already went before we'd start.
01:21:57.242 --> 01:22:04.166
They'd say you have 987 thousand dollars and 42 cents to spend on this event.
01:22:04.166 --> 01:22:07.132
If you go over, you're spending the money.
01:22:07.132 --> 01:22:19.130
So if you go over, scientology Church of Scientology International will have to pay for anything that goes over, and so the IAS and and Dave would, and Dave would brag all the time.
01:22:19.130 --> 01:22:27.244
I'm only spending a million dollars on this event and I'm making anywhere from 50 to a hundred times that on the event.
01:22:27.244 --> 01:22:33.833
So they'd bring in all these big wigs and all these whales from all over Europe and From the United States.
01:22:33.833 --> 01:22:34.836
People would come there.
01:22:35.296 --> 01:22:44.243
If you gave a certain amount, you'd get announced, and if you gave us One of these big, heavy-hitter amounts, then you would often get us.
01:22:44.243 --> 01:22:50.277
You'd get to go up on stage with David Miss Gavage and he would stand with you and you'd get a.
01:22:50.277 --> 01:22:55.817
You basically get a photo op with David Miss Gavage, right right in the Scientology world.
01:22:55.817 --> 01:23:02.994
If you go, if we go, if I go into your house and you have a picture of you on Stage with David Miss Gavage up on the wall.
01:23:02.994 --> 01:23:03.917
Your site.
01:23:03.917 --> 01:23:05.561
You might as well be Scientology royalty.
01:23:06.051 --> 01:23:06.932
Yeah, and your trophy.
01:23:06.932 --> 01:23:08.836
You get your insane bowling trophy.
01:23:09.337 --> 01:23:11.421
Yes and the trophies would cost.
01:23:11.421 --> 01:23:14.313
We would produce these Trophies in Los Angeles.
01:23:14.313 --> 01:23:22.735
It's actually we're produced at a place I think it's called Hollywood trophy, off of Western, but some of these trophies would be, you know, 400 bucks.
01:23:22.735 --> 01:23:35.018
500 bucks for a $40,000 Donation or a hundred thousand donation, when these guys are donating millions and millions of dollars they got diamonds 20 30 Thousand dollars on a trophy for them.
01:23:35.037 --> 01:23:46.001
Yeah, like yeah, 30 thousand dollars on a trophy, and we've already seen One of those from one particular unfortunate individual end up on eBay and oh, they're all over the place.
01:23:46.082 --> 01:23:47.283
Mike's got one in his office.
01:23:47.283 --> 01:23:51.222
Yeah, but yeah, cuz the Richie a kuto one.
01:23:51.262 --> 01:23:52.006
Oh, he did he get.
01:23:52.006 --> 01:23:52.970
That's the one I'm talking about.
01:23:53.533 --> 01:23:57.095
Oh, I'm pretty sure it's at Mike's house, that one was for?
01:23:57.155 --> 01:24:00.869
yeah, yeah, I think I read that the person of body sent it over to Mike cuz he should have it.
01:24:00.869 --> 01:24:06.011
Yeah, I think I think Richard Kuto had given I Can't.
01:24:06.011 --> 01:24:07.976
I think it was 10 million dollars.
01:24:08.176 --> 01:24:09.640
Yeah, I want to say it was tens of millions he.
01:24:09.640 --> 01:24:15.177
Eventually he passed right but he did go back before he passed away.
01:24:15.278 --> 01:24:16.539
Yeah, and he had.
01:24:16.539 --> 01:24:17.280
He had his.
01:24:17.280 --> 01:24:25.345
All of his swag was in a one of these Storage storage, you know, and then he never paid.
01:24:25.345 --> 01:24:27.532
He couldn't afford to pay the bill, so it got sold on.
01:24:27.532 --> 01:24:33.863
Like you know, container wars like one of those kind of operations where the people bid on them.
01:24:35.390 --> 01:24:38.921
Mark Fisher said does mark realize the Z new cocktail is still on screen?
01:24:38.921 --> 01:24:42.413
Hell yeah it was just living down there by itself and it wasn't bothering us.
01:24:42.715 --> 01:24:46.135
Yeah, hell, yeah, yeah, hey, mark, hi mark.
01:24:48.354 --> 01:24:49.970
Yes, hello mark Fisher in the house.
01:24:49.970 --> 01:24:55.113
Um so Sorry excuse me.
01:24:55.113 --> 01:25:00.220
So the IAS event was this major, major moneymaker.
01:25:00.220 --> 01:25:17.989
Well, the document that we have to show you tonight is from that event and, miraculously, and and I don't know if there is one other document in all of Scientology that was published to the entire international headquarters that has Mitch's name on it and my name on it.
01:25:17.989 --> 01:25:20.636
That's a well except maybe some knowledge reports.
01:25:20.695 --> 01:25:24.323
Well, no, no, but I'm saying that went to everybody, that everybody got to see.
01:25:24.323 --> 01:25:26.015
That's true, that's true.
01:25:26.015 --> 01:25:34.912
But also, yeah, this was from a time when, well, you're gonna explain what it is, but this type of Document is very special.
01:25:34.912 --> 01:25:36.375
It didn't happen very much.
01:25:36.375 --> 01:25:38.099
Yes, today doesn't.
01:25:38.099 --> 01:25:41.244
For the last 15 years hasn't happened at all.
01:25:42.091 --> 01:25:42.956
Yeah, okay.
01:25:42.956 --> 01:25:45.466
So let me put it up, let me make sure we can get our little.
01:25:45.466 --> 01:25:49.317
I got another, I got another one that kind of will do both of us big here.
01:25:49.317 --> 01:25:52.663
There we go, okay, so I don't know if you can read it.
01:25:52.663 --> 01:25:55.256
It's not the biggest thing in the world.
01:25:55.256 --> 01:25:59.189
I'm putting it up there and I'm gonna pull up another copy of it here.
01:25:59.189 --> 01:26:02.512
Sorry, I didn't have this all Set up beforehand.
01:26:02.512 --> 01:26:03.774
Okay, perfect, okay.
01:26:03.774 --> 01:26:18.533
So I've got another copy of it here and it says executive directive anything that is Issued to the property, it's called some sort of executive and this would be from the office of Idiot no witness.
01:26:18.875 --> 01:26:21.524
No, no, this is an executive directive, just oh.
01:26:21.524 --> 01:26:23.189
It can come from any executive.
01:26:23.530 --> 01:26:24.895
Oh, that's just from gold.
01:26:24.954 --> 01:26:30.216
Yeah, okay, yes, this one is a gold Executive, right, so you would.
01:26:30.216 --> 01:26:31.340
You would assume it was written.
01:26:31.340 --> 01:26:32.061
We'll get to the bottom.
01:26:32.061 --> 01:26:34.274
I don't remember who wrote it is probably Jason Bennett or something.
01:26:34.274 --> 01:26:41.595
Yeah, it was, it was cuz yeah it was so it says executive directive gold Ed 2337.
01:26:41.595 --> 01:26:46.173
There were three thousand 336 of these before this one.
01:26:46.194 --> 01:26:49.180
No, I think they're not always good to make it look good.
01:26:49.680 --> 01:26:50.341
I don't think so.
01:26:50.341 --> 01:26:51.024
They didn't do that.
01:26:51.024 --> 01:26:54.833
Okay, it says all it says.
01:26:54.833 --> 01:27:05.296
Gold ed 3337, 20 October 1994, all base crew commendation IAS 10th anniversary event.
01:27:05.296 --> 01:27:12.414
The IAS 10th anniversary event was held this year at LRH's home, st Hill Manor in the UK.
01:27:12.414 --> 01:27:15.342
The event was a tremendous success.
01:27:15.342 --> 01:27:25.643
Public in attendance strongly stated that they could and should be doing much more to contribute Towards all aspects of Scientology expansion.
01:27:25.884 --> 01:27:26.868
Yeah, that's the mark.
01:27:26.868 --> 01:27:29.479
Yeah, Go ahead, go ahead.
01:27:29.479 --> 01:27:31.568
No, I was gonna say that's the marker of success.
01:27:31.908 --> 01:27:33.493
Yes, that's how they measure success.
01:27:33.935 --> 01:27:37.162
Did the people who attend feel they were not doing enough?
01:27:37.510 --> 01:27:39.713
Exactly, that is the that you know.
01:27:39.713 --> 01:27:52.682
If you watch that Tom Cruise crazy video of him getting the award right in the end, you will see that his message is 100% aligned with David Miscavige's message.
01:27:53.184 --> 01:27:58.881
Yeah, which is if you Are watching this, you're not doing enough.
01:27:58.881 --> 01:27:59.811
You're in.
01:27:59.811 --> 01:28:04.394
If you're in Scientology and you're watching us right now, you're not doing enough.
01:28:04.394 --> 01:28:09.329
Look at all these other people and what they're doing and how you're not doing anything.
01:28:09.329 --> 01:28:12.340
That's, that's, your takeaway from the event.
01:28:12.340 --> 01:28:19.420
Okay, gold was quite instrumental in producing this result from the event.
01:28:19.420 --> 01:28:21.863
Properties produced quite instrumental.
01:28:22.091 --> 01:28:23.635
They made the whole entire thing.
01:28:23.635 --> 01:28:24.898
What the hell is that?
01:28:25.319 --> 01:28:37.594
Well, to be fair, international management are responsible for the events and golden era productions is just a tiny little piece of that, and also because the IAS paid for it.
01:28:37.594 --> 01:28:43.634
This is, there's a little bit of political, interpolitical Seagorg.
01:28:43.634 --> 01:28:49.630
Speak in here to not make it look like gold did all the work, even though right gold did all the work.
01:28:49.890 --> 01:28:56.056
Yeah, I called it that gold was quite instrumental in producing this Result from the event properties produced.
01:28:56.056 --> 01:29:07.261
That just means the content that was shown at the event all the way through to the event itself being a success, because gold lit and produced and filmed and did set the props up and everything else.
01:29:07.261 --> 01:29:23.609
As a result, the following accommodations are issued now in the Seagorg If you do something really, really good and you're commended, that's great, but if you're highly commended, you might even be able to take a day off.
01:29:23.689 --> 01:29:31.381
Next, yeah, and I just want to add that these things are supposed to counterbalance Knowledge reports that are in your ethics folder.
01:29:31.381 --> 01:29:33.707
Yeah, this is supposed to wipe each of they don't?
01:29:33.707 --> 01:29:35.095
Yeah, this could be worth.
01:29:35.297 --> 01:29:37.029
You know you might have done 20 bad things.
01:29:37.029 --> 01:29:41.119
This could blow those all out and just clean the slate for you again.
01:29:41.380 --> 01:29:43.595
That's always happened, but maybe for a week or two.
01:29:43.614 --> 01:29:46.052
Yeah, highly commended.
01:29:46.052 --> 01:29:53.730
The below are highly commended for their professional work on this year's IES 10th anniversary event.
01:29:53.730 --> 01:29:59.550
Now, if this is the fact, if Jason really did write this, it totally makes sense.
01:29:59.550 --> 01:30:01.798
He's the first person he commended.
01:30:02.951 --> 01:30:03.974
It says Jason Bennett.
01:30:04.033 --> 01:30:05.779
He's the first name on the list.
01:30:06.180 --> 01:30:07.261
He should have just put me.
01:30:07.261 --> 01:30:08.716
I'm gonna skip to the end.
01:30:08.716 --> 01:30:11.350
Yeah, warren officer, jason Bennett, he did write this.
01:30:11.350 --> 01:30:14.117
Yeah, the first person he commended was himself.
01:30:14.117 --> 01:30:18.778
Okay, jason Ben, I'm gonna read all these names and you'll see why.
01:30:18.837 --> 01:30:32.712
When we're done, jason Bennett, gary, we see Nick Consilla, rick Cruz and Ray McKay, Cindy Rainer, stefan Lewis, larry Jacobs, chris Ray, frank Fenn, steve Marley, jeff Baker, gary Lou, camilla Jarco, phyllis Drake, commended.
01:30:32.712 --> 01:30:52.872
The below are commended for their professional work on this event Steve Young, peter Lewis, brooke Shackleton, sherry Moorhead, boring bull stat, adam Purcell, cliff Thomas, mark Hedley, gary Hunter, bertie Magnuson, sarnie Wiley, josh Hemphill, olpholves and Bruce Plotts, cleve Carlson, paul Sarkinny, wilson eques or eques, is it?
01:30:52.872 --> 01:30:53.453
Ramirez?
01:30:53.453 --> 01:30:59.176
John Gonzalez, charlie Russian, mike Eaves Okay, that's mostly.
01:30:59.176 --> 01:31:06.855
Those two top columns are mostly the event Executives and then the event crew.
01:31:06.855 --> 01:31:19.277
So those top people are in both Sections of the film production and the event production and that's probably why they're at the top, because they, they, they doubled, they did double duty.
01:31:19.277 --> 01:31:26.569
These people that are listed below Most likely worked on one or the other and that maybe not both.
01:31:26.569 --> 01:31:42.304
Okay, in addition to who may have participated above, the below staffer also commended specifically for their participation in the production of the IS event videos and making them the best event videos we have produced to date.
01:31:43.030 --> 01:32:33.050
Mitch brisker, claudio Olander, barber mace, chris Mayfield, mike Lemeron, jim Pettigrew, evelyn Borglund, oglenon, ron Somerville, adam Lewis, andrew Bradley, julia Ellis, todd Yamaguchi, sheila Freeberry, philip Dawes, will Francesco, frau Larry Madsen, dave West, sean Morrison, lisa Schroer, hilly desertel, marcus Swanson, sean Alcock, nancy Julian, kim freeze, tim Larson, tom Armstrong, peter Blecka, john Thomas, walter Wilkins, tony Pinder, johann Olson, johann Olson, becky Williams, sadie Mayfield, randy Kreitz, marker Gazetti, paul leaves, phil Sherlock, jennifer Demers, megan Ray, gwen Kulf, axel Johansson, jessica Weineke, eric Geisler, henning Bendorf, bob Stearns, bill Foster, tori shell, vicki Pearson, dan Anderson, julia Strada, don Edwards, shanagh a wiler, jack Sheehan, fed Tizzy, randall, gillian.
01:32:33.069 --> 01:32:51.590
And Then there's a page to Stevie Duncan, ron, miss Gavage, neil Coon and Gareth Freeberry, carl Leach, linda Greilich, chris Olander, denise friend, mike Ogletree, bert Drake, lisa frau Jim Pearson, football a Frank, peter Schles, mickey Astrada, steve Cook, tom Mcmurray, mcenry Ellis, russ Greilich that's all of the list of names.
01:32:51.590 --> 01:33:00.581
Warrant Officer Jason Benic, general manager, gold Authorized by LRH calm gold for Church of Scientology International.
01:33:00.581 --> 01:33:05.239
And then it has a Signatories, and I know all the names of the people so, so.
01:33:05.541 --> 01:33:07.835
So what's the word I'm trying to say?
01:33:07.835 --> 01:33:09.059
Or official?
01:33:09.059 --> 01:33:11.372
No, yes, daniel F.
01:33:11.391 --> 01:33:13.216
Dean, jb for Jason Benic.
01:33:13.216 --> 01:33:16.971
Jb for Jason Benic LC, gold CSI.
01:33:16.971 --> 01:33:19.934
Okay, that's a lot of people.
01:33:19.934 --> 01:33:21.417
Now this I don't.
01:33:21.417 --> 01:33:23.462
I don't actually.
01:33:23.462 --> 01:33:29.858
Sometimes they say at the end they'll put a little thing here.
01:33:30.057 --> 01:33:37.721
The above people are awarded a day off, or Like, if there was something that came with it, you'd get, like, the prize at the end.
01:33:37.721 --> 01:33:44.470
And I don't think I'm just gonna show the second page, because I didn't show that up on the slide there.
01:33:44.470 --> 01:33:45.774
That's the second page.
01:33:45.774 --> 01:33:47.016
You guys can see that there.
01:33:47.016 --> 01:33:50.810
This is an official document, the.
01:33:50.810 --> 01:33:55.939
There wasn't a prize and I think on this one what might have happened?
01:33:56.261 --> 01:34:03.872
And and I'm pretty sure this is what happened when we were in the UK, dave said you, it was a great event, we probably made.
01:34:03.872 --> 01:34:12.430
He made millions and millions and millions of dollars and he probably said you guys should take a day off and we might have gone into London or we might have done something.
01:34:12.430 --> 01:34:19.270
I remember, on this specific event, that I was about to get on a concord because we missed our broadcast window and we had to come.
01:34:19.270 --> 01:34:40.710
We had a broadcast, the, the video there to broadcast to all of the organizations all over the world the next day, and we missed our window and the tape had to get to New York by some time and we I was gonna get on a concord and fly the tape to the broadcast center and then we ended up just getting a new window that would get there before the plane.
01:34:40.710 --> 01:34:41.375
So I don't know.
01:34:41.395 --> 01:34:43.489
You missed a shot of you, didn't make a concord.
01:34:44.051 --> 01:34:49.949
I didn't, but but because everybody day off the next day and we were running around doing all this video nonsense.
01:34:49.949 --> 01:34:54.350
We were in London, but we were just working to try to figure out how to get the broadcast.
01:34:54.350 --> 01:35:12.159
We stayed up all night after the event doing the edit and checking it and making sure it was all good and then we spent the whole day driving around getting lost in London and going to satellite places and messing it up and not getting our window and the tape was wrong and this was wrong, and so I don't think we actually ended up getting the day off.
01:35:12.180 --> 01:35:15.569
Yeah, fun but stressful running around England like London, like yeah.
01:35:15.630 --> 01:35:18.752
It was not fun at all, anyway.
01:35:18.752 --> 01:35:19.917
So that is that okay.
01:35:19.917 --> 01:35:26.617
Now, this is a fun little thing because I thought to myself I Wonder how many of these people are still there.
01:35:26.617 --> 01:35:29.143
This was in 1994, argue be a while ago.
01:35:29.970 --> 01:35:34.140
But the people well, considering that they've signed a billion-year contract.
01:35:34.199 --> 01:35:35.922
Yeah, you would think a lot of them are there.
01:35:35.922 --> 01:35:42.143
Okay, I'm gonna show you yours, I'm gonna show you the document and the people that are not there.
01:35:42.143 --> 01:35:43.595
We've crossed them out.
01:35:43.595 --> 01:35:44.878
Okay, here we go.
01:35:45.730 --> 01:35:46.612
This is who's there.
01:35:47.113 --> 01:35:48.135
This is who's still there.
01:35:48.135 --> 01:35:55.881
If they, if their name is not crossed out, I do not know Definitively that they are not still there.
01:35:55.881 --> 01:36:12.899
The people that are crossed out I am 99.9 percent sure that they're either declared a suppressive person they escaped and then they were declared a suppressive person or they got just kicked out of the sea or for being bad sea Org members yeah, yeah, there's, there's, yeah, no, I.
01:36:13.971 --> 01:36:17.514
My own Verification says 100%.
01:36:17.514 --> 01:36:18.095
You are correct.
01:36:18.095 --> 01:36:22.644
There's maybe two people on here who left the sea or put are still in Scientology.
01:36:22.970 --> 01:36:23.613
Oh yeah, no, there's.
01:36:23.613 --> 01:36:29.689
I mean, the best person that we'll talk about is, on the very beginning of the document, the guy who commended himself.
01:36:29.689 --> 01:36:32.336
The first person, jason Jason Benic.
01:36:32.336 --> 01:36:40.604
He's still a Scientologist, but he really he was a Beliterated from the Aunt base and he was kicked out of the sea.
01:36:40.604 --> 01:36:41.869
Work by David Miss Gabby.
01:36:41.930 --> 01:36:42.993
Yeah, but he gets pulled in.
01:36:42.993 --> 01:36:44.859
He gets pulled in as an apologist.
01:36:45.311 --> 01:36:47.060
He does because he was at the Aunt base.
01:36:47.060 --> 01:36:48.949
He's like oh, everything was wonderful there.
01:36:49.230 --> 01:36:50.394
I know, Dave is a great guy.
01:36:50.394 --> 01:36:52.480
He never hit me or punched me or locked up or not.
01:36:52.480 --> 01:36:54.841
He's a told best guy ever worked for.
01:36:54.841 --> 01:36:56.250
That's why I'm no longer working there.
01:36:56.650 --> 01:37:02.810
Yeah, and Jason Benic was one of the people he beat up and you know I got most punching bed, jason punching back.
01:37:02.949 --> 01:37:04.675
But yeah, he was.
01:37:04.675 --> 01:37:10.698
He was across between a pit bull, a lap dog, at a border collie when it, when it came to obedience.
01:37:11.319 --> 01:37:13.407
Yep, that's exactly what he was and here so.
01:37:13.407 --> 01:37:14.409
I'll just show the second page.
01:37:14.409 --> 01:37:17.500
That's the first page, and then you can look on the second page.
01:37:17.500 --> 01:37:22.909
Everyone's crossed out, including the person who wrote it and the person who approved it.
01:37:23.712 --> 01:37:25.038
Yeah, exactly yeah.
01:37:25.038 --> 01:37:31.381
And when you and most of these, I mean Like there's hasn't been a lot of people coming up there in a long time.
01:37:31.770 --> 01:37:41.876
No, I mean, the youngest youngest person up there is in their 40s, so yeah, I would say that they were getting when in the early in the 90s, there could be 20 or 30 new people.
01:37:42.150 --> 01:37:43.454
Oh yeah, they were getting lots of people.
01:37:44.590 --> 01:37:53.560
And then in, I want to say in the late 90s and definitely into the 2000s there might be one or two people, that no, the higher some pros.
01:37:54.530 --> 01:37:55.774
I know the last guy that came up.
01:37:55.774 --> 01:37:59.871
He's from a foreign country, I think a Scandinavian country.
01:37:59.871 --> 01:38:06.216
He's on one, you know, because that's a very special skill to be able to translate, and I think he's in his 40s.
01:38:06.216 --> 01:38:14.057
I used to joke that gold's going to be an old age home for zero workers, which is really like they have the facilities to house people.
01:38:14.057 --> 01:38:18.273
But you know, it could end up being just like the old age home.
01:38:19.510 --> 01:38:22.659
I mean, they're basically doing busy work at this point.
01:38:22.659 --> 01:38:25.057
They're not doing anything that anyone needs.
01:38:25.771 --> 01:38:29.399
No, that's not true, but I don't want to sound like an apologist.
01:38:29.399 --> 01:38:30.533
No, they're still making films.
01:38:30.533 --> 01:38:32.873
They're making the tech films over.
01:38:32.873 --> 01:38:37.529
Okay, again, always, mark, they'll always be doing it.
01:38:37.529 --> 01:38:43.182
They always, because Dave likes to keep them busy and they're doing programming.
01:38:43.449 --> 01:38:45.676
We actually I should probably.
01:38:45.676 --> 01:38:48.250
I have a couple of the films I did when I got sent back to gold.
01:38:48.250 --> 01:38:49.934
I was doing films.
01:38:49.934 --> 01:39:00.814
L Ron Hubbard said all of his books you know his basic books and all of his, everything he wrote, all of his letters and his essays, everyone should be converted into a film.
01:39:00.814 --> 01:39:06.081
So I've made some of these films from some of his lectures for the TV network.
01:39:06.081 --> 01:39:07.873
So they're still doing all that stuff.
01:39:07.873 --> 01:39:09.573
But it's just sinny.
01:39:09.573 --> 01:39:10.556
It's just sinny.
01:39:10.556 --> 01:39:17.078
They're making some films, they just have their little unit over there right and the editing Well, they're not manufacturing anything.
01:39:17.912 --> 01:39:19.096
Well, it's not totally true.
01:39:19.096 --> 01:39:20.835
Let's do a little briefing on what gold does.
01:39:20.835 --> 01:39:22.976
Here's what they do.
01:39:22.976 --> 01:39:34.957
Okay, they have compiled a mountain of analog material over the years analog videotapes, documents, audio tapes, photos and they scan those.
01:39:34.957 --> 01:39:38.557
That's what all of your executives are doing.
01:39:38.557 --> 01:39:48.317
That's what Gerem Lozarev and Greg Wilherr, kurt Wheelan, all those guys they're digital digitizing and scanning.
01:39:48.317 --> 01:39:50.756
It's mind numbing work.
01:39:50.917 --> 01:39:52.972
Oh wow, and also that and also.
01:39:52.972 --> 01:39:54.396
You could just farm all that out.
01:39:54.997 --> 01:39:55.498
Yeah, you could.
01:39:55.498 --> 01:39:56.201
You could.
01:39:56.201 --> 01:40:00.119
I mean some of the digitizing, because think about all the different audio formats.
01:40:00.470 --> 01:40:03.135
I mean video formats Mark Well, both audio too.
01:40:03.135 --> 01:40:05.157
They have to take all that analog.
01:40:05.289 --> 01:40:14.237
They have miles, and I'd say millions of miles of tape, yeah tons, and they just digitize them all day long.
01:40:14.237 --> 01:40:14.899
That's all they do.
01:40:14.899 --> 01:40:16.252
They do that.
01:40:16.252 --> 01:40:21.261
And the titanium boxes that they put in the vault.
01:40:22.411 --> 01:40:23.697
Yeah, they were making those in the cast.
01:40:23.697 --> 01:40:25.277
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
01:40:25.277 --> 01:40:26.154
They don't make anything.
01:40:26.154 --> 01:40:27.132
They do film.
01:40:27.132 --> 01:40:28.537
That's a whole other thing.
01:40:28.537 --> 01:40:31.819
Like nobody can figure out everything that they do.
01:40:31.819 --> 01:40:33.917
They do the gift packing, okay.
01:40:33.917 --> 01:40:41.891
In other words, they put it in the box, they get it ready, yeah, they get it ready, and then it gets set up for finishing at CST, cst.
01:40:41.891 --> 01:40:43.637
They do the final argon gas.
01:40:44.430 --> 01:40:46.417
CST is Church of Spiritual Technology.
01:40:46.417 --> 01:40:47.220
Yeah, they're responsible.
01:40:47.409 --> 01:40:51.939
Also known as Hotel California, where Shirley Miss Gavage lives.
01:40:52.480 --> 01:41:05.537
Okay, they're the ones that are responsible for taking all of Elron Hubbard's written and spoken and filmed words and putting it into titanium capsules on stainless steel plates and gold records and all these other things.
01:41:05.537 --> 01:41:09.880
Yeah, it's crazy, so that they can withstand a nuclear holocaust.
01:41:10.091 --> 01:41:11.336
Yeah, or a weather event.
01:41:11.336 --> 01:41:19.059
The video, the documentary, that they no, no, because remember, when Hubbard made the order to do this, the fear was nuclear war.
01:41:19.059 --> 01:41:21.225
Yeah, today the fear is a weather event.
01:41:21.225 --> 01:41:23.037
So no, I'm serious.
01:41:23.037 --> 01:41:23.993
So think about it.
01:41:23.993 --> 01:41:30.858
Right, we're going to have rising tides on the skies If you look at the documentary on Scientology, media Productions.
01:41:31.390 --> 01:41:32.534
That's a weather event now.
01:41:32.789 --> 01:41:36.019
Well, hold on, which I highly recommend you.
01:41:36.078 --> 01:41:39.938
look, because I we should do a reaction video so we don't send people over to Scientology.
01:41:39.978 --> 01:41:40.840
No, no, no.
01:41:40.840 --> 01:41:41.742
Send them over there.
01:41:41.742 --> 01:41:43.074
It doesn't help them at all.
01:41:43.074 --> 01:41:45.030
They don't capture IP addresses.
01:41:45.030 --> 01:41:46.212
Mark, I know this, I worked there.
01:41:46.212 --> 01:41:47.213
Okay, they don't.
01:41:47.213 --> 01:41:48.234
It doesn't help them at all.
01:41:48.234 --> 01:41:48.996
There's no metric.
01:41:48.996 --> 01:41:50.317
It doesn't help them, they don't.
01:41:50.337 --> 01:41:53.319
Use a VPN if you go over there, folks, I'm not saying they don't?
01:41:53.340 --> 01:41:55.722
Yeah, okay, yeah, use a VPN if you go over there.
01:41:55.903 --> 01:41:57.625
Bag it before you go to their site.
01:41:57.805 --> 01:42:01.435
Okay, yeah, you want to wrap it before you tap it?
01:42:01.435 --> 01:42:07.395
Yes, okay, anyway, but the reason I say that that's not a tech film saying, by the way, wrap it.
01:42:07.395 --> 01:42:09.019
No, no, no, definitely not yeah.
01:42:09.019 --> 01:42:14.779
Yeah, it opens up with a bunch of montage of weather events.
01:42:14.779 --> 01:42:22.322
Yes, like the apocalyptic weather events, because they always are going to push with the big end of the world, that's true, that's true.
01:42:23.170 --> 01:42:26.238
But I just have to say I know this is off topic, but we're sort of ran out of that topic anyway.
01:42:26.238 --> 01:42:29.695
Yeah, this is something we can get into some other time if you want.
01:42:29.695 --> 01:42:33.975
Yeah, because I did a bunch of work on that whole CSC thing, but oh, that would be amazing.
01:42:33.975 --> 01:42:39.163
Yeah, I was on with Karen Delacarrie when I made the announcement about Norman Starkey passing away.
01:42:39.163 --> 01:42:45.702
Karen Delacarrie and I brought Jeffrey Augustine on because he was the one who confirmed it for me.
01:42:45.702 --> 01:42:51.215
I mean, the source that I got that from 100% didn't need confirmation, but I thought people are going to want to see a document.
01:42:51.215 --> 01:42:53.432
Sure, jeffrey dug something up.
01:42:53.432 --> 01:42:56.993
Karen came on and she said so are I blew my mind?
01:42:56.993 --> 01:42:58.719
She said are the?
01:42:59.110 --> 01:43:00.275
What about the confidential materials?
01:43:00.275 --> 01:43:00.993
Are they on the box?
01:43:00.993 --> 01:43:04.234
Nobody's ever asked this question, that's true.
01:43:04.234 --> 01:43:05.698
Okay, yeah, okay.
01:43:05.698 --> 01:43:06.498
But it's not just that.
01:43:06.498 --> 01:43:16.983
I mean I was on the phone with a friend of mine and he said I'm going to send you a copy of the information from Dylan Gill.
01:43:16.983 --> 01:43:19.595
He called me up and he said hey, wait a minute.
01:43:19.877 --> 01:43:20.578
I think she's right.
01:43:20.578 --> 01:43:26.289
We scanned them, we transcribed them, but I don't remember them ever going into a box.
01:43:26.289 --> 01:43:34.859
Well, I'll tell you this we had at the Ant Base we had a special, we had a special department in manufacturing, which was the upper advanced materials manufacturing Right Right.
01:43:34.859 --> 01:43:41.257
Yeah, I worked in there, but those people came from CST.
01:43:41.909 --> 01:43:47.863
But I worked on the confidential films because I was like OT5, whatever, it doesn't matter, OT bullshit.
01:43:47.863 --> 01:43:50.256
And then I was able to work on those.
01:43:50.256 --> 01:43:51.439
But here's the real question.
01:43:51.439 --> 01:43:53.774
Okay, let's just say they all are in the vault.
01:43:53.774 --> 01:43:59.141
They transcribe the whole Xenostory and all of Hubbard's handwritten, whatever it is.
01:43:59.141 --> 01:44:00.131
It tells the whole thing.
01:44:00.131 --> 01:44:02.057
Right, let's say they're in there, Okay?
01:44:02.057 --> 01:44:06.560
So in order for you to do your OT levels, okay, you have to pass a gatekeeper.
01:44:06.560 --> 01:44:09.359
Osha is going to gather up every folder on you.
01:44:09.359 --> 01:44:10.595
They're going to read every report.
01:44:10.595 --> 01:44:12.377
They're going to put you down with a sec checker.
01:44:12.377 --> 01:44:14.708
They're going to fucking.
01:44:14.708 --> 01:44:18.961
They're going to just squeeze any possible thing you've ever done before.
01:44:18.961 --> 01:44:25.317
You have to be certified that it's okay for you to go on these and if you access them early, you're going to die.
01:44:25.898 --> 01:44:26.519
Of pneumonia.
01:44:26.819 --> 01:44:27.240
Yeah.
01:44:27.240 --> 01:44:30.257
So how can you just put these in a box for some poor suckers?
01:44:30.257 --> 01:44:34.154
If you say that that's true, that whole story, that's a great point.
01:44:34.154 --> 01:44:39.962
How can you put them in a box for some numb nuts to stumble on?
01:44:40.390 --> 01:44:44.592
Well, also, I don't know how you're, I literally my question.
01:44:44.592 --> 01:44:45.716
That's a good question.
01:44:45.970 --> 01:44:47.275
Nobody's ever brought this up.
01:44:47.829 --> 01:44:57.048
My questions always be like okay, let's pretend the weather event happens, or the nuclear or something or whatever Right my combination there, okay, and I've been to one of these facilities.
01:44:57.048 --> 01:44:58.496
I've been to the one in New Mexico.
01:44:58.770 --> 01:44:59.573
I never got to go.
01:45:00.033 --> 01:45:00.896
I've been to the Well.
01:45:00.896 --> 01:45:01.698
I went afterwards.
01:45:01.698 --> 01:45:04.297
I drove there with John Swinney order from the BBC.
01:45:05.492 --> 01:45:06.614
You didn't go inside.
01:45:07.095 --> 01:45:08.279
We couldn't, they didn't let us in.
01:45:09.130 --> 01:45:09.737
You know, the one in New Mexico.
01:45:09.737 --> 01:45:11.591
I've heard that that's where the gold bullion and the jewels are.
01:45:11.993 --> 01:45:12.837
That's what I've heard.
01:45:13.189 --> 01:45:14.255
That's why I'm back in.
01:45:14.255 --> 01:45:16.770
It's only a few hour drive from me, anyway.
01:45:16.770 --> 01:45:23.340
So we went there and but it took us hours and hours to find it, when we knew where it was.
01:45:23.340 --> 01:45:37.457
Really, I don't know how someone's going to happen upon this place after a weather event that we could barely get to it in the middle of the desert on currently Right GPs, roads with GPS and a big vehicle.
01:45:37.457 --> 01:45:43.155
I don't know how someone's just going to be like walking along and be like, oh, and then it's going to be in this vault.
01:45:43.155 --> 01:45:46.497
They're just going to go like doot, doot, doot, doot, yeah, and they're going to open the vault.
01:45:46.697 --> 01:45:47.118
I don't know.
01:45:47.118 --> 01:45:49.449
There's Dude.
01:45:49.449 --> 01:45:50.914
They're going to be looking for food.
01:45:50.914 --> 01:45:51.337
That's right.
01:45:51.337 --> 01:45:54.096
That's exactly what I thought when I.
01:45:54.096 --> 01:46:02.073
If there is some sort of event and it's like everybody for themselves, if you want to get some gold, keep your.
01:46:02.073 --> 01:46:05.881
Keep right a note of where these places are at and have a way to get to them.
01:46:06.250 --> 01:46:07.560
After the zombie apocalypse.
01:46:07.560 --> 01:46:09.796
Yeah, because they're these vaults.
01:46:09.796 --> 01:46:15.993
Essentially, whether they are or aren't on paper, they're filled with precious metals.
01:46:15.993 --> 01:46:24.059
Okay, yeah, titanium, they're filled with titanium and they're probably that's probably where they're putting their gold and their silver and their other stuff.
01:46:24.229 --> 01:46:33.278
Apparently, Hubbard said for when he comes back and whatever you know, to survive in the future, money's going to be no good, You're going to be you're going to need jewels and gold.
01:46:33.890 --> 01:46:34.851
Well, they're putting.
01:46:34.851 --> 01:46:38.038
They're putting his material on gold records.
01:46:38.699 --> 01:46:39.502
Okay, yeah.
01:46:40.390 --> 01:46:41.962
What can you melt down for currency?
01:46:41.962 --> 01:46:43.516
Yeah, and there's titanium.
01:46:43.689 --> 01:46:49.037
You can't really melt titanium without advanced technology, yeah, but you can't cut it into like spears.
01:46:49.037 --> 01:46:54.239
You know you can make it into weapons for hunting, so Sure, anyway, this is really handy stuff.
01:46:55.970 --> 01:47:00.220
A zombie apocalypse happens and you want to hold up somewhere very secure.
01:47:00.220 --> 01:47:01.193
You could do worse.
01:47:01.193 --> 01:47:06.884
New Mexico running springs, I suppose there's one in Montana or something.
01:47:06.884 --> 01:47:07.930
I don't know all the locations.
01:47:07.970 --> 01:47:09.213
Well, isn't there one at the old?
01:47:09.213 --> 01:47:10.738
No, kreston.
01:47:11.109 --> 01:47:14.998
Yeah, kreston, right, I don't know if that's just his house or if they have a home there too.
01:47:14.998 --> 01:47:16.615
I heard there was a vault there.
01:47:16.615 --> 01:47:19.877
Well, he was keeping cash in the barn in Kreston.
01:47:19.898 --> 01:47:20.439
Anyway, somebody.
01:47:20.439 --> 01:47:31.331
Yeah, I want to make a movie about some poor suckers like opening the shit up in the future and dying of pneumonia, Just like the hell is that we got?
01:47:31.371 --> 01:47:36.257
hey, Denver Stevo says yes, Goldie, he knew, I don't know what that?
01:47:36.278 --> 01:47:36.881
means, but hey, Denver.
01:47:36.881 --> 01:47:42.519
Stevo, he knew hey, Mark hold on, Mark, before you look on the starred ones.
01:47:42.519 --> 01:47:43.902
We got a couple, we got an answer.
01:47:43.902 --> 01:47:45.858
We got one from Claire that we have to answer.
01:47:45.858 --> 01:47:46.320
Yeah, here we go.
01:47:46.930 --> 01:47:51.457
Oh Zee, new Drink Outer Space Vodka Mountain Dew with lime cherries.
01:47:51.859 --> 01:47:52.699
Lime and cherries.
01:47:52.900 --> 01:47:55.572
Okay, I like that Outer Space Vodka.
01:47:55.572 --> 01:47:57.578
I don't know what Outer Space Vodka is.
01:47:57.670 --> 01:48:03.279
Is there any vodka that you have that you can just call Well, no, but maybe there's this vodka called Outer Space Vodka.
01:48:03.279 --> 01:48:05.314
I don't know if that's a thing.
01:48:05.314 --> 01:48:08.335
I don't want to diss their brand but Outer Space.
01:48:08.375 --> 01:48:11.720
Vodka, mountain Dew, lime and cherries.
01:48:11.720 --> 01:48:12.542
I love it.
01:48:12.542 --> 01:48:13.824
I love that better.
01:48:13.824 --> 01:48:29.002
I hate to break it to you, john Satowski, but that is and actually I did say like a Zee New Mule and that is sort of a very close cousin to a Mule, the vodka and the lime.
01:48:29.363 --> 01:48:32.356
Oh yeah, You're not allowed to show their brand because I found it.
01:48:33.190 --> 01:48:33.752
Claire nailed it.
01:48:33.752 --> 01:48:35.356
Is it Outer Space Vodka?
01:48:35.637 --> 01:48:36.119
Yeah, I can't.
01:48:36.119 --> 01:48:38.453
It won't work on my camera, but oh well.
01:48:38.512 --> 01:48:39.015
I like it.
01:48:39.015 --> 01:48:41.373
It's an alien head bottle.
01:48:41.373 --> 01:48:42.756
Perfect, I'm going to get it.
01:48:42.756 --> 01:48:43.859
You need to work on it.
01:48:43.859 --> 01:48:44.862
Thank you, claire.
01:48:45.470 --> 01:48:47.557
Hey, how does Claire know about Outer Space Vodka?
01:48:48.313 --> 01:48:48.914
Well, you don't.
01:48:48.914 --> 01:48:55.261
Because Claire's got the Google machine that she can run while I'm here, oh OK, so this was.
01:48:55.261 --> 01:48:59.539
I'm going to say that's what it is, even though she's a total lush there is a guy.
01:48:59.539 --> 01:49:00.512
I don't believe that.
01:49:00.512 --> 01:49:05.319
There is a guy, his name is John Roker and he shot.
01:49:05.319 --> 01:49:06.895
He's a video director.
01:49:07.130 --> 01:49:08.414
He did Green Day.
01:49:08.414 --> 01:49:11.235
He's done a bunch of work with Green Day.
01:49:11.235 --> 01:49:22.537
I think the American idiot tour and video and film and he's done album art and stuff like that and when I first got out he had started.
01:49:22.537 --> 01:49:24.613
He had started a religion.
01:49:25.837 --> 01:49:27.391
It's called real, it's called.
01:49:27.412 --> 01:49:36.753
Lushatology and and they and he did this little trailer and he was like we don't want your, we don't want your money, we just want your liver.
01:49:36.753 --> 01:49:38.533
And then he would go to these.
01:49:38.533 --> 01:49:39.417
Oh, that's awesome.
01:49:39.417 --> 01:49:43.179
He would go to these liquor stores and he'd be like and he went to Scientology.
01:49:43.179 --> 01:49:47.840
In the video I'll see if I can find the video and I'll put it, Please Sounds awesome.
01:49:47.840 --> 01:49:50.359
He's like we're not like these guys, we don't want your money.
01:49:50.359 --> 01:49:56.716
And then the next scene he's like at the liquor store or something was like these are one of our churches and it's a liquor store in.
01:49:56.777 --> 01:49:57.719
Hollywood on Hollywood.
01:49:57.738 --> 01:50:01.453
Boulevard and he's like yeah, we don't want your money, we just want your liver.
01:50:01.453 --> 01:50:04.118
And anyway, it's really funny.
01:50:04.118 --> 01:50:12.135
But the name of it was Lushatology and and I was a Lushatologist for a very short period of time, I was a card carrying member.
01:50:12.315 --> 01:50:12.817
Are we all?
01:50:12.817 --> 01:50:13.578
We're we all?
01:50:14.350 --> 01:50:20.662
And Joni Cummings says question can either of you get your hands off any of the scripts?
01:50:21.170 --> 01:50:21.974
Sadly, no.
01:50:21.974 --> 01:50:27.461
I had a binder, like my own personal binder, with my name on it, that had all of the scripts in it.
01:50:28.350 --> 01:50:32.698
I, you know I did you also have the binder of all of the things that you and ten?
01:50:32.698 --> 01:50:33.600
He needs to have a binder?
01:50:33.600 --> 01:50:38.288
No, no, didn't you have a binder of all of the correspondence between you and David Mascavage at the?
01:50:38.328 --> 01:50:38.489
base.
01:50:38.489 --> 01:50:40.698
No, because that would have filled my entire office.
01:50:40.698 --> 01:50:42.456
No, I'm serious.
01:50:42.456 --> 01:50:48.375
He told me one day that he was probably bullshitting because he's a consummate liar and he likes to say things to make people feel good.
01:50:48.375 --> 01:51:01.095
Yeah, and I was walking through his office and I never went there before building, before the big $50 million building, and I went up with him to his office to have some kind of meeting, which is maybe the only time I never needed to go up there.
01:51:01.095 --> 01:51:04.354
Yeah, I mean, claire can tell you she never saw me in that building.
01:51:04.777 --> 01:51:05.257
No, yeah.
01:51:05.538 --> 01:51:06.909
No reason to go Well.
01:51:06.930 --> 01:51:08.436
I mean, I was there for 15 years.
01:51:08.436 --> 01:51:11.958
I may have been in that building maybe 50 times.
01:51:12.279 --> 01:51:14.697
Yeah, I was there once and all the time that you were there.
01:51:16.233 --> 01:51:18.298
So he didn't like people coming to see him.
01:51:18.911 --> 01:51:19.795
No, he took me up there.
01:51:19.795 --> 01:51:21.135
We were going to talk about something.
01:51:21.135 --> 01:51:23.514
And you know, and so we were walking by.
01:51:23.514 --> 01:51:25.676
Remember the filing cabinets with the cranks on them.
01:51:25.676 --> 01:51:26.057
They moved.
01:51:26.057 --> 01:51:28.742
Yes, A massive high density shelving.
01:51:28.742 --> 01:51:40.797
Yeah, and we walked by there and he said you know, there's more correspondence between you and me than there is between him and anybody else in the world and you know, I believe that, I actually believe that, whether it's a liar or not.
01:51:41.139 --> 01:51:45.032
I do believe it because you and him are writing to each other for many, many years.
01:51:45.192 --> 01:51:47.494
Multiple times a day, every single day.
01:51:47.494 --> 01:51:48.235
Yeah, multiple times.
01:51:48.615 --> 01:51:49.457
But every day.
01:51:51.359 --> 01:51:51.680
Yeah.
01:51:51.701 --> 01:51:53.802
Hold on, Hold on, Hold on.
01:51:53.802 --> 01:51:55.045
It's okay, I'm going to put this up.
01:51:55.045 --> 01:51:57.354
It says not a sheeple says.
01:51:57.354 --> 01:51:59.703
So how come if Claire is a lush?
01:51:59.703 --> 01:52:02.493
There's pics of you passed out on a sidewalk.
01:52:02.493 --> 01:52:04.672
This is a good point.
01:52:04.672 --> 01:52:09.159
I think more people that hang out with Claire should take pictures of her.
01:52:10.150 --> 01:52:14.319
I'm not going to read this today, but this is the last letter I got from him in 2018.
01:52:14.338 --> 01:52:18.319
Okay, oh wow, oh yeah, so that's another thing Mitch does have.
01:52:18.319 --> 01:52:21.893
I mean, you know, I do this thing with this, I don't have a lot.
01:52:22.333 --> 01:52:23.015
I know I do.
01:52:23.497 --> 01:52:24.860
I do this thing with the spy files.
01:52:24.860 --> 01:52:28.396
I've got about 30 files that talk about me and I just read them.
01:52:29.037 --> 01:52:32.670
You know, maybe yeah, this one's kind of this is this letter.
01:52:32.670 --> 01:52:33.974
This is the reason why they're put there.
01:52:33.974 --> 01:52:40.476
They can't do a hate site about me and say, yeah, he was a nobody, he really didn't do any of these things.
01:52:40.729 --> 01:52:41.533
Hey, this is a good.
01:52:41.533 --> 01:52:43.639
This thing we just showed is a good one for me.
01:52:43.639 --> 01:52:46.819
They said I was trying to drown people when I was six, yet I was highly.
01:52:46.819 --> 01:52:49.387
I was commending here in 1994.
01:52:49.408 --> 01:52:57.484
I was a good guy In this letter he refers to me as a good friend and he refers to our working relationship.
01:52:57.484 --> 01:52:58.587
Wow.
01:52:58.787 --> 01:52:59.488
That's hard.
01:52:59.488 --> 01:53:00.210
That's a hard one.
01:53:00.590 --> 01:53:06.222
I can't say this guy is nobody, because I can just hold that letter up and it's from 2018.
01:53:06.609 --> 01:53:11.828
It's like pretty recent, so anyway you know this is a great one.
01:53:11.828 --> 01:53:12.934
I'm going to show this.
01:53:12.934 --> 01:53:19.060
It says Miala Kunis, aka CEO Bill question have either of you seen slash?
01:53:19.060 --> 01:53:21.323
Heard any deets about the script LRH?
01:53:22.291 --> 01:53:25.460
You'd be allegedly just hold on one second with Lenny Rivenstahl.
01:53:25.460 --> 01:53:29.451
He's going to get the thing he didn't.
01:53:29.451 --> 01:53:31.036
I'm going to say this while Mitch is gone.
01:53:31.036 --> 01:53:34.475
Mitch has something.
01:53:34.475 --> 01:53:37.863
He has all of the things that would have anything to do with this.
01:53:37.863 --> 01:53:55.155
He has all of it, and I want to say that David Miskavich gave it to him, but LRH was writing a script about Africa and he heard that Lenny had been to Africa and I think he wrote to her.
01:53:55.155 --> 01:53:56.975
Now Mitch can take over now.
01:53:57.055 --> 01:54:01.319
Okay, here's a note from Dave and written.
01:54:01.319 --> 01:54:03.636
You recognize that handwriting right, Mark Yep.
01:54:04.289 --> 01:54:06.027
And I recognize his little little RTC.
01:54:06.027 --> 01:54:07.457
This is the desk.
01:54:08.630 --> 01:54:09.675
This is his desk notes.
01:54:09.675 --> 01:54:15.270
If you want to send you a desk note, and this says dear Mitch, this is from 1995.
01:54:15.270 --> 01:54:17.737
Dear Mitch, here's the data on Lenny.
01:54:17.777 --> 01:54:18.760
Rivenstahl Love Dave.
01:54:18.760 --> 01:54:21.213
Now set up why he sent that to you.
01:54:21.515 --> 01:54:23.097
Okay, here's why he sent it to me One second.
01:54:24.761 --> 01:54:27.436
Mitch, I'm not sure.
01:54:28.550 --> 01:54:30.194
I'm going to do a whole video on this.
01:54:30.234 --> 01:54:31.679
Yeah, well, that's what I was going to say.
01:54:32.430 --> 01:54:34.837
But this is just a teaser for the video Perfect.
01:54:34.837 --> 01:54:37.034
This is Lenny Rivenstahl's biography.
01:54:37.034 --> 01:54:47.478
It's not a small book, but I've been fascinated by her since I was in film school in the 70s for a couple of reasons, and then, of course, then I ended up being the Lenny Rivenstahl Scientology.
01:54:47.478 --> 01:54:49.061
There's a passage.
01:54:49.061 --> 01:54:51.798
So I'm sitting in my office at Gold, I'm reading this book.
01:54:51.798 --> 01:54:54.016
She starts talking about over and over in this book.
01:54:54.016 --> 01:54:57.792
I'm like holy moly she's talking about.
01:54:57.832 --> 01:55:04.500
She's looking for somebody to help her rewrite an English version of her most famous film, the Blue Light, which is a beautiful film, a silent film.
01:55:04.500 --> 01:55:05.533
You can see it on YouTube.
01:55:05.533 --> 01:55:08.315
The Blue Light, das Blülik, whatever.
01:55:08.315 --> 01:55:09.418
However, you say that in German.
01:55:09.418 --> 01:55:13.699
And she had an assistant who was a film editor, who was studying at St Hill.
01:55:13.699 --> 01:55:15.435
That's how the connection was made.
01:55:16.010 --> 01:55:19.298
They contacted Herbert about writing it and this is the script.
01:55:19.298 --> 01:55:20.979
Okay, it's called the Blue Light.
01:55:20.979 --> 01:55:22.654
This is the English version.
01:55:22.654 --> 01:55:24.216
Well, I'll read this to you.
01:55:24.216 --> 01:55:31.114
It says original story by Lenny Rivenstahl, early screen version by Bella Bellas, modern version by Elron Hubbard.
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And so he sent me back the script and all of the correspondence and a lot of handwritten notes on how you plot development and character development, and it may be the only stuff he ever wrote about writing, because he wrote about everything how to clean your car, how to go clear, how to polish your cat, whatever it is, whatever it is, he just wrote about everything.
01:55:59.814 --> 01:56:01.615
So, yeah, they answer the questions.
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Yeah, I know a little about that, but I am going to do a whole video on it.
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Nice, there you go.
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There's the answer.
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That's a good answer, I mean, for five bucks.
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This guy put the question here.
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Oh yeah, he got a million dollars.
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Answer for five to five bucks Discount day at the Market and Midship Make a Scientology film.
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We're having a big sale here.
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Yeah, I'm going to end off on this.
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This is the last of the questions.
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Yeah, because I think I hear the lawyers about to pull up with my it says Zinu Coat Cocktail, pangalactic Gargle Blaster.
01:56:31.817 --> 01:56:32.859
I like the name.
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I like the name, I do like it.
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That could be the name of the other one, yeah, and then we'd have the ingredients, the Pangalactic, but also I like I don't know, we're throwing away the Zinu, and Zinu is kind of like the Lee it has to have.
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So it could be the Zinu Pangalactic Gargle Blaster.
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It's too long.
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We can't work on that one.
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A good name for a drink can't be more than three words Sex on the beach.
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That's about as.
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That's four.
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That's about as big as sex on the yeah, okay, you're right.
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Let me count the syllables.
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Hide current comment.
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There we go, let me, just before we let's do some ha, some housekeeping before.
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So we got to check out Mitch's channel at Scientology.
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The big lie.
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If you haven't subscribed, please do that.
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Yeah, I'm going to be doing an extensive video on this.
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I was going to cut a documentary about it.
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And, but I'm still do that too.
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Yeah, yeah, I could, but I'm going to do like a live stream about the linear reversal thing I also.
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I also dedicate there's an entire chapter of my book about this and about Hubbard's claims of a film, like of having had a filmmaking career in Hollywood and all that.
01:57:43.421 --> 01:57:45.497
It's all kind of mixed together Perfect.
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And all that nonsense.
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Yeah, you want to go to my channel and you want to hit that notification bill, because you'll get notified about when the book's released and you could read all about it.
01:57:57.551 --> 01:58:00.337
Okay, good, and then, if you again, I'm just putting up his Indiegogo.
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This will all be in the description, but I'm putting it up there, indiegogo.
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Just search Mitch Briskers, scientology, the big lie We've got.
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Zeno is my homeboy and other tons of BFG merch can be gotten from the Blum for Good Store.
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The link is in the description.
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And then, if anybody we sometimes we we talk about all this stuff.
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We're talking about these individual films, the whole 15 years that I was there.
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I pretty much tell that story in my book Blum for Good Behind the Iron Curtain.
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Yeah, but you got the great escape story.
01:58:31.315 --> 01:58:36.060
I just I just Lottie Nod drove off and decided not to come back.
01:58:36.060 --> 01:58:44.476
I do think that Valerie Haney escaping in the back of a car that's like that's that's some other.
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Oh, that's that is no, that's, that's like she raged the bar, yeah, yeah.
01:58:51.529 --> 01:59:01.475
Anyway, thank you for joining us today, guys, thank you for sticking with us, thank you for all the guys that watched till the very end and, yeah, if do we forget anything else, I think we'll do.
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Yeah, we're good, no, we're good.
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Which film do we want to do next Do we want to do?
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I think we should do tier 14.
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I think a tier 14, that is, the angel and the devil film inside.
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Yeah, this is the one that Hubbard.
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This is like he hated.
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He hated Catholics.
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Okay, he really takes.
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You're going to learn all that, and that one does have an all star studded cast as well, so yeah, and a lot of visual support.
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We both managed to pull together some good visual support for that, yes, oh yes, it's going to be so good.
01:59:31.240 --> 01:59:32.042
Okay, thanks a lot, guys.
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And one more thing, just to tease it.
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It's going to blow your mind If you watch that one till the end.
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We will reveal another document.
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Oh yeah.
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We're going to keep these documents coming.
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I have another note from David Muskevich to me about that film.
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Yes, and we are also working on it.
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If you are out there in the world of Scientology films and you have photos or videos or a document or a script or you were an actor and you read sides and you got had to get send us your stuff we have already gotten a lot of amazing photos and stuff like that that we've been sent and you will be seeing those throughout these films and these are some super super behind this.
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Yeah, and it will really help us to tell the stories, because it really will see these things and then all of a sudden we get it triggers the memories.
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Totally Okay, guys.
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Thanks a lot, mitch.
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Thank you everybody.
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Thank you, mark.
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We'll see you next time.
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Bye.