Iron Man 3

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A famous man once said, we create our own podcasts.
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Who said that? What does that even mean? Doesn't
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matter. I said it because Robert Downey Jr. said
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it. Well, sort of. That's right. Get ready to
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continue our journey into the Marvel Cinematic
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Universe with quite possibly the most Shane Black
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movie to ever Shane Black, Iron Man 3. So buckle
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up for the podcast because you know who we are.
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This is Blind Spots and Second Thoughts. Welcome
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back to another episode of Blind Spots and Second
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Thoughts. I'm Dan. I'm Heather. And Heather,
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are you ready to suit up and jump into the next
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phase of the Marvel Cinematic Universe with the
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next movie, Iron Man 3? I think so. What do you
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know about Iron Man 3? I mean, I'm guessing Robert
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Downey Jr. is going to be in it. Okay. And Gwyneth
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Paltrow. As for what's going to happen, I really
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don't know. I've been thinking about this since
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we watched the Avengers because we had all of
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their kind of individual movies for each of the,
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you know, the Avengers characters. And then we
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had the Avengers where they're all together.
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And so now if we're going back to sort of this
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is an Iron Man movie, I really don't know what
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to expect in terms of the larger story. Now.
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I'm guessing maybe Sam Rockwell is going to be
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back and there's he's going to maybe resume his
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villainous role in the Tony Stark world. But
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that's my best guess. I can go ahead and tell
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you right now that you are absolutely 100 % wrong.
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Okay. So that was the only thing I could maybe
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assume. But I so I don't know. Canonically. Sammy
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Rocks. Thank you. Justin Hammer is in prison
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in the Marvel Universe after the events of Iron
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Man 2. Did we know that at the end of Iron Man
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2? He does get arrested. Okay. Well, I mean,
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but that still doesn't necessarily mean that
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he couldn't be out of prison for Iron Man 3.
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He is in prison during the events. So and Ivan's
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dead. Correct. Ivan Vanko did predator himself
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at the end of Iron Man 2. So yeah, I have no
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idea. Besides any returning MCU cast members,
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do you have any guesses about new cast members
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who might be added to the roster? No. None at
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all? I can't think of anybody. All right. So
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premiering in the spring of 2013, Iron Man 3
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was the immediate follow -up to the wildly successful
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first Avengers movie. Jon Favreau, having directed
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the first two Iron Man movies, stepped back from
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the director's chair to work on an ultimately
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unrealized project called Magic Kingdom, which
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was described as night at the museum, but at
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Disneyland. Okay. Star Robert Downey Jr.'s casting
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in the first Iron Man was largely due to his
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performance in a little low budget movie that
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I know you enjoy, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, written
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and directed by Shane Black. Once Favs was out
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for part three, it was RDJ's idea to reach out
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to Shane Black, who was having a bit of a career
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lull of his own, for Iron Man 3. Black would
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direct the movie and co -write it along with
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screenwriter Drew Pierce, who created a British
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sitcom about superheroes that I hadn't heard
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of before called... No Heroics. I haven't heard
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of that either. So knowing that this is a Shane
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Black movie, I'm going to dust off the Shane
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Black checklist that I gave you way back in our
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The Nice Guys episode. So here's the checklist.
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Snarky dialogue. Narration. Okay. Precocious
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kid sidekick. Reluctant buddy action comedy.
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Love it. Third act plot twist. Christmas. Christmas.
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Torture. Okay. Yeah. Christmas torture. Gotta
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love it. Do you think any of those will be present
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in Iron Man 3? Oh, yes. I think because now I'm
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remembering that you did say that Iron Man 3
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was kind of a sleeper Christmas movie. Okay.
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So I think Christmas is going to be involved.
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I mean, none of those sound implausible to me.
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Like, I don't think of the world and think, no,
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none of those. I mean, maybe a precocious child,
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but they can make that work. If it's in there,
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I'm not going to be shocked. Well, let's keep
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it bingo card handy and we'll check them off
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as we go and see how many we can knock out. So
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in addition to the returning Iron Man ensemble,
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Iron Man 3 adds to the cast Guy Pearce, Okay.
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Oh, um. Memento. Memento. Yep. Rebecca Hall.
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Rebecca Hall. You might recognize her. I'm not
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sure from what. Okay. I'm thinking of several
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other Rebeccas, so can't place Hall. Miguel Ferrer.
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Ferrer. Ferrer. I think Ferrer. Ferrer. George
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Clooney's cousin. Oh, yeah. I forgot about that.
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William Sadler. Okay. He's a bad guy. Yeah, I
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know him. Ty Simpkins, who you might know from
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Insidious. That name sounds familiar. He was
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the kid in Insidious. Okay, yep. And Sir Ben
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Kingsley. Okay. So now knowing that, any final
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thoughts before we watch? I mean, I'm just, let's
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do it. I'm excited. All right, let's do it. You
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know what this crater reminds me of? No idea.
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I'm not, I don't care. A giant wormhole in New
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York. Does it remind you? That's manipulative.
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I don't want to talk about it. Are they coming
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back? The aliens? Maybe. Can you stop? Remember
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when I told you that I have an anxiety issue?
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Does this subject make you edgy? Yeah, a little
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bit. Can I just catch my breath for a second?
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Are there bad guys in Rose Hill? Do you need
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a plastic bag to breathe into? Do you have medication?
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Nope. Do you need to be on it? Probably. Do you
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have PTSD? I don't think so. Are you going completely
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mental? I can stop. Do you want me to stop? When
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I said to stop doing that, I'm sure you're going
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to freak me out. Okay, Heather. So Iron Man 3,
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what did you think? I loved it. I could tell.
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I loved it. More than most movies that we watched
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together, you had audible reactions throughout
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the whole movie. I was gasping. I gasped a lot,
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many times. Some of that was just my own obliviousness.
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Like when Guy Pearce shows up the second time
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and I was like, and you were like, you didn't.
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recognize him in his earlier scene? No. He looks
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like Guy Pearce in a wig with funny teeth. Didn't
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recognize him. You know, I have to be honest,
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and this is a little bit of a peek behind the
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curtain of our recording process, that we recorded
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three intros before watching this movie. And
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so I was, well, the reason I'm saying this is
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because I was forgetting who was in which movie.
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Because you gave me cast lists for three different
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movies. And so I was like... So you were watching
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for... Billy Dee Williams the whole time? No,
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no. I mean, not really Star Wars so much, but
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this and Gladiator. I was like, wait, who were
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the people in this movie? So I forgot that Guy
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Pearce was in Iron Man 3. So when we first see
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him and he's all scraggly, I was like, oh, he's
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just a guy. I wasn't really paying super close
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attention. But then later I recognized him. And
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then when he said his name, I was like, he was
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the guy from the beginning. You know, I think
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it's really funny that so people have asked me
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what my favorite movie is that we've covered
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for this podcast. And my answer is always The
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Nice Guys. Right. I just like Shane Black movies.
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Apparently you just love Shane Black movies.
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He makes romps. He makes romps. This is kind
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of a romp. He's had some stinkers. At some point,
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we might watch The Predator, which Shane Black
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also did. And it's not great. But when Shane
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Black is... Firing on all cylinders. He does
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make very fun romps. Yeah. This was kind of a
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romp. It was a romp. I, you know, I remember
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not being terribly fond of it when it first came
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out. And I think part of it was since this was
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the immediate follow up to the Avengers, I was
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expecting more comic book superhero shenanigans
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and not a Shane Black movie. And this is one
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of the most Shane Black movies. We talked about
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the checklist at the beginning of the movie.
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Every single one with a plum. It is peak Shane
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Black. The torture is more implied than anything,
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I would say. Well, I mean, you've got Pepper
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strapped down and given extremists. You've got...
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Tony strapped to a weird bed. That's true. He's
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not really being tortured. He's bantering with
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the guards when he's strapped to that mechanism
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or whatever it is. So I guess, yeah, torture
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is you have to squint a little bit. It's also
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PG -13, so what are you going to do? Well, and
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I also, I do, as we get into this, I really do
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want to talk about the sort of terrorist storyline,
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which obviously we will because it's a big part
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of the movie. Until we get the big reveal, I
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wasn't really thinking that I could classify
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this as a romp because it was too close to the
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bone. It was a little bit too realistic. And
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I do want to ask a question to clarify, because
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once we discover that what we think we've been
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seeing is not accurate, the scene where the Mandarin
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shoots the guy in the head, that's... Not real.
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I believe that is fake. I believe the the rocks
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on oil guy does actually survive and is fake.
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I can't you know, I kept an eye out for him later
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on and I think you see him. Okay, but I actually
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missed him on this watch. So I don't I'm not
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100 % certain but given that they wouldn't give
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Trevor Slidery real guns. I think it's pretty
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safe to say that he doesn't actually execute
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anyone. That was my assumption based on everything
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that he was saying later on. But that scene is
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very visceral, especially when you've experienced
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the war on terrorism and knowing that that's
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reflective of things that were happening in real
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life. And at that point, when that scene happened,
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when we see him, quote unquote, execute that
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guy, I was like, the tone of this movie is very
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jarring because the storylines. are disparate
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but then later on when we meet Trevor it all
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kind of ties up for me where I'm like okay so
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that's not real you still have to be like well
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it was It was real. It was a real thing that
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was happening in the world. And there is still
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some bad stuff happening. But like, it was not
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what I thought it was. And I was like, okay,
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it's a romp. Now I can call it a romp. Well,
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as I was saying, this movie, I remember not loving
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it when it first came out because I wanted more
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superhero and less Shane Black. And I think at
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one point, I might have even rated it below Iron
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Man 2, which is so funny now because Iron Man
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2 is easily my least. favorite of the iron man
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movies and bottom tier marvel for me this movie
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now over time i've grown a lot more fond of it
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and now i think i mean honestly i think this
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is my favorite iron man movie so of the trilogy
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this is my favorite of the three movies and this
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is easily top tier marvel for me okay it's a
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lot of fun it is not disrespectful to the characters
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It plays with, you know, it plays in the universe
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and it lets the characters do things that aren't
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punching aliens necessarily or whatever else.
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So it's just fun. It's a very fun movie. This
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might be my favorite Marvel movie that we've
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watched. Like even more than the Avengers. I
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was having a great time. It really is. And it's
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aged a lot better than some of the other movies.
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too. So you know, it's not a perfect movie. It
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definitely had some production issues. We'll
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get into that as we go through. But by and large,
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it's just a really fun movie. So I'm glad you
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enjoyed it. Okay, and we can watch it again in
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a month for Christmas. It's definitely one of
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my Christmas go to movie. Are you really excited
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that we can watch together now? Okay, it's one
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of the movies that I put on I will typically
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when I'm wrapping presents, I will put on an
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ovier of Christmas. movies and iron man 3 you
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do a shane black double feature kiss kiss bang
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bang and iron man 3 sometimes it's usually i
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do kiss kiss bang bang iron man 3 catch me if
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you can uh and there's a few others that are
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uh i'll sadly the nice guys only has a little
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tiny bit of christmas at the end yeah that's
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unfortunate yeah but this movie because i would
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put that on every year for christmas if the holiday
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featured more prominently. Well, do you have
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any other thoughts to share before we go? No,
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let's get into the recap. Okay. So the movie
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begins with a hard, cold open Tony Stark voiceover
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narration talking over some Iron Man suits exploding.
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What's happening? And then it goes to the Eiffel
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65 song Blue, which you know that I. Famously
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on our do not playlist for our wedding. I really
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hate that song. I was really confused when that
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started playing because I was like, wait, isn't
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this movie from like 2013? Why is blue playing?
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And then on screen text 1999. I was like, oh,
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okay. That makes more sense. You actually, you
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verbally said it out loud when the 1999 appeared.
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So 1999 Bern, Switzerland. New Year's Eve. Tony
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is talking to Maya Hansen, played by Rebecca
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Hall, at some science conference party, which
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why are they having a science conference on New
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Year's Eve? I don't know. Yeah, good question.
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That seems like poor timing. Yeah. It's not holding
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Tony back, though. He is still partying it up,
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but also sciencing. He is partying it up. He
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has bonded with Maya Hansen. Maya Hansen, I did
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not know this until researching for the podcast
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episode, actually a character in the comics and
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was a big part of the extremist storyline in
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the comics. Okay, well, that makes sense. Good
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that they integrated her. Ho Yensen is there.
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Ho Yensen, the doctor who saved Tony's life in
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the cave in Afghanistan. and sacrificed himself
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so Tony could go on to be Iron Man. Jensen does
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mention in the first Iron Man movie that they
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met at a conference in Bern, although Tony probably
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wouldn't remember. And that plays out in this
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scene. It's a nice moment for people who are
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paying attention. Is that a dig? It might be
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a little bit of a dig. I missed him. There's
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this other character there. I don't know if you
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noticed in this scene. There's a doctor named
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Dr. Wu who gets a very strange close -up. He's
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talking to Yinsen and Maya Hansen, and there's
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this other character, Dr. Wu, a Chinese doctor.
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So did you notice that there was almost a very
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notable close -up of this guy? Well, I did, but...
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I assumed that he was getting a close -up because
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he was making a face at Tony blowing a noisemaker
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at Maya Hansen's chest. That's not why. No. Okay.
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This is that strange period when Disney and other
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movie studios had figured out that, hey, there's
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like a billion people in China and they buy movie
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tickets. So we need to try and appeal to Chinese
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moviegoers. By putting Chinese people in the
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movie? Well, not just that. Like, he's actually
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a Chinese movie star. Okay. And a Chinese production
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company actually helped co -produce this movie.
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And there were extra... scenes shot featuring
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this character. So Dr. Wu has barely any screen
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time in the American theatrical cut, but there's
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a Chinese extended edition that has additional
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scenes of this character, including some scenes
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where I believe he speaks Mandarin Chinese. And
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he is also, and I didn't realize this again until
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looking this up, he's the surgeon who removes
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Tony Shrapnel at the end of the movie. You can't
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tell because in the theatrical cut, he's got
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a surgical mask on and you never really see his
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face. But he is a cardiologist because that's
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what he says. He says, you're a cardiologist.
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She's going to need one after I noise maker sound,
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noise maker sound. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But there's
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extended scenes, including another very popular
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Chinese actress that were shot specifically just
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to appeal to Chinese audiences, but were cut
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from the release pretty much everywhere else
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in the world. everyone is like, no one cares
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about these. And it really was rude for lack
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of a better word. It was specifically pandering
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to Chinese audiences. And apparently that's okay.
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We're allowed to see Chinese people. They could
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have left them in. Well, these scenes were extraneous
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and apparently even Chinese audiences thought
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that they were pandering. They were basically
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just like, you just have these scenes in here
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just to have Chinese actors show up and say things
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basically. What is that? Token, tokenism. Kind
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of. Yeah. But like just very extraneous tokenism.
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So yeah. So heading back to the hotel room with
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party goers, Tony, Maya Hansen, and a bunch of
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other people, they run into a very goofy looking
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and somewhat disabled Aldrich Killian, played
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by Guide Pierce, who pitches Maya and Tony on
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advanced idea mechanics, his think tank, also
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called AIM. This is something that actually probably
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comic book fans would have figured something
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out. Pretty quickly, because AIM is sort of like
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a mad science offshoot of HYDRA. Oh, okay. In
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the comic books. So it's always been a supervillain
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group in the comic books. It's never really been
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anything that you could say is legit. Probably
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good that this was 2013, because not long before
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that, everybody would have just been like AOL
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Instant Messenger. That dominated the acronym.
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Tony tells Killian to meet him on the roof, but...
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ditches him yeah this is like a prom storyline
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when the the nerd gets stood up for prom then
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goes back to the hotel room and actually does
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some science with maya while they are looking
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at science and maya is showing tony she's science
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in which remember that tony is a genius yep he
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is in the list in the avengers he does list genius
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first before everything else which is really
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modest of him a mulleted happy plays with Maya's
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plant. And when she asks him not to, he picks
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a leaf off anyway out of a little bit of spike,
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which causes an unstable reaction when it grows
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back and explodes. Yeah. And he thinks it's Y2K.
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He gives. Tony, a good security tackle, fixes
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his mullet. Happy leaves. Tony alone with Maya
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to bring in the new year. Eyebrows, eyebrows.
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Then in the morning, Tony writes something on
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the back of a name tag that says, you know who
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I am and leaves. And the voiceover narration
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says, I didn't realize it, but I just created
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demons. So flash forward to present day. It's
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interesting. This is the movie that introduced
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years to the Marvel timeline. Prior to the Avengers,
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they did not have specific dates on any of the
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movies except for Captain America, which was
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way in the past. But the other movies were sort
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of on a shifting timeline. And you could say
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like, well, maybe it's in the near future because
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they have some near future technology and that
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kind of thing. But this movie is just like, nope,
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it's 2013. This movie takes place in 2013. Yeah,
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there is crazy technology in the Iron Man universe.
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I mean, I guess it's because Tony is a genius.
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Like Happy can't even operate an iPad. Yeah.
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So it is Christmas time. Tony Jarvis and Dummy
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are working on a new Iron Man suit that can independently
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assemble itself around Tony listening to funky
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Christmas music and dancing while the suit assembles
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itself. It's a fun scene. Yeah, it is. Jarvis
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sounding more familiar to me than he had previously
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because as we're recording this, we just recently
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watched. a Knight's Tale and I was like, oh yeah,
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okay. Like I knew his voice, but it's Chaucer.
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Well, I think, I mean, I had seen a Knight's
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Tale before and I think I've seen him in other
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things, but my biggest familiarity with Paul
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Bettany is the Da Vinci Code. Have you seen that?
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No. He's in the Da Vinci Code. Is he? Uh -huh.
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Is he a bad guy? Yes. Oh yeah. Doesn't he play
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like an albino? Yes. Like unfortunately for a
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lot of reasons. Yes. Correct. And he's like.
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I can't believe I know that. Masochistic, like
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for God. So it's a much different performance
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than Chaucer and Jarvis. So I think when I heard
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his voice in Iron Man and Iron Man 2, I was like,
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I mean, I recognize it. But now I was like, okay,
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yes, now I can place it more with the guy. And
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he's so bitchy. I love it. He's so sassy. He's
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very sassy. I love it. He's a very sassy robot
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computer. Now we have the intro. of Sir Ben Kingsley
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as, at this point, as far as anyone knows, the
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Mandarin. Scary. Giving a scary monologue and
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taking credit for a bombing. He's a good actor.
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At an Air Force base. I mean, Ben Kingsley and,
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as we come to find out, Trevor. Because he's
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scary. The Mandarin is one of Iron Man's oldest
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nemeses, appearing first in 1964. But is he really
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a fake played by? No. Oh, okay. The original
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character is Chinese in origin and was heavily
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inspired by the fictional character Fu Manchu.
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In fact, apparently Stan Lee said, I want a Fu
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Manchu character. So his group, the Ten Rings,
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was teased in the first Iron Man movie as the
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group that kidnaps Tony. Marvel had eyes on the
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Mandarin as a villain, even from the first Iron
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Man movie, but they decided he was too ambitious
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for the first movie. They also, at one point,
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thought that he might be the tease at the end
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of the event. Avengers along with future Marvel
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hero Shang -Chi. Because of the desire to appeal
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to the Chinese market, they were nervous about
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their first major Chinese character being a villain.
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And they also were worried about avoiding the
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other stereotypes that come along with a Chinese
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villain who was created in the 60s and literally
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inspired by a villain who literally named a trope.
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The Fu Manchu mustache is named after that character.
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Okay. So they went with this sort of ethnically
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ambiguous version. Asterisk. They did know that
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the character as envisioned in the comics would
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have been problematic in China. They were appealing
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to China and also they were trying to avoid -
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It would have been problematic everywhere. It
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would have been problematic everywhere if they
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hadn't necessarily, you know, the character is
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over 50 years old. It's been through a lot of
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iterations in the comics, but they didn't necessarily
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have the time to do that here for Iron Man. And
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they were worried about appealing to Chinese
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audiences and not offending Chinese censors because
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they were gonna - chasing that Chinese movie
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money at the time. I think it was probably a
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good decision to not have the Mandarin be a more
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traditional version of the Mandarin. But some
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fans had a bit of a... Of course they did because
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they're purists and they don't care if it's racist
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as long as it's true to... The thing that they
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liked when they were kids. Which is just so annoying.
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So there was... Expand your mind. There was definitely
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some... negative feedback about this. In fact,
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so much so that the Marvel Universe, we won't
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necessarily get into this so much, but they do
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retcon a little bit. And there actually is a
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real Mandarin who is not Trevor Slattery and
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not Aldrich Killian. So the idea is that Aldrich
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Killian nabbed the idea from rumors maybe that
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he heard in real life about the real leader of
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the Ten Rings. you find out later on and there's
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a is that also who they refer to as the master
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yes because there is a moment when maya says
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something to guy pierce about the master yeah
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and they're talking about at that point everyone
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still thinks the mandarin is really the one in
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charge and that's they're referring to but but
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when i when it's revealed that it's not Ben Kingsley.
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I was like, well, who is the master then? Because
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for whose benefit was that conversation? Put
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a pin in that. We'll come back to that later.
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But it is Killian. I also I just I do want to
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go back to the very beginning. Something I should
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have said at the very beginning of this recording,
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as we've been getting more and more into the
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Marvel Universe, whenever we record the intro
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where I talk about what I think might happen,
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I get a little self conscious because I'm like,
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I feel like maybe I should be having better ideas
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about what's never in 1 ,000 years would I have
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predicted the storyline of this movie based on
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what I knew from the other movies. So I'm not
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going to care as much moving forward if I don't
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know what to expect because this was completely
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out of left field. Can you remind me of Ben Kingsley's
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ethnic background? He is British of Indian descent
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because he does play famously. I believe he won
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his Oscar for playing Gandhi. Okay, yes. And
00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:06.339
became famous from playing Gandhi, but he is
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British. Okay. Now we have Rhodey debuting his
00:27:09.700 --> 00:27:12.759
revamped armor as... Iron Patriot, which was
00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:14.660
borrowed from comics, but it's actually a totally
00:27:14.660 --> 00:27:16.799
different character in the comics. Oh, okay.
00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:19.160
But here they just decided to go ahead and borrow
00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:22.880
that and give him a spangly makeover. We have
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:26.019
more cameos from real life television personalities,
00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:29.400
including the late Joan Rivers and the insufferable
00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:33.309
Bill Maher. Rhodey lets Tony know some classified
00:27:33.309 --> 00:27:36.390
stuff about the bombings over wings. Tony gets
00:27:36.390 --> 00:27:38.509
approached by some kids for an autograph, asked
00:27:38.509 --> 00:27:40.789
about the Battle of New York from the Avengers,
00:27:41.109 --> 00:27:44.529
has a massive anxiety attack. Happens to the
00:27:44.529 --> 00:27:47.289
best of us. So Tony nopes out. I honestly really
00:27:47.289 --> 00:27:51.009
appreciated this part of the storyline. I mean,
00:27:51.009 --> 00:27:53.369
and maybe that's just because I'm particularly
00:27:53.369 --> 00:27:55.589
interested in mental health and I have anxiety
00:27:55.589 --> 00:27:58.539
myself, but acknowledging. The events of what's
00:27:58.539 --> 00:28:01.339
happened in the past, I think, is really great.
00:28:01.460 --> 00:28:04.779
I was very happy about that. Speaking of happy.
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Yes. Happy Hogan is now the overzealous head
00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:11.819
of security at Stark Industries. And Pepper Potts,
00:28:11.819 --> 00:28:13.880
regardless of what she says at the end of Iron
00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:17.420
Man 2, Pepper Potts is very clearly the CEO of
00:28:17.420 --> 00:28:20.160
Stark Industries now. I was loving Happy in this
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:24.980
movie. He's great. He gets to be silly. You know,
00:28:25.019 --> 00:28:27.279
it's funny because we talked about the Shane
00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:30.039
Black checklist and you said snarky dialogue.
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And I would say the snarky dialogue has been
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established as part. of the Iron Man oeuvre.
00:28:36.470 --> 00:28:41.009
It is way snarkier. To me, it's noticeable how
00:28:41.009 --> 00:28:44.589
much quippier it is. Apparently, Shane Black
00:28:44.589 --> 00:28:48.690
did have a hand in the first movie in helping
00:28:48.690 --> 00:28:51.609
shape a little bit of the dialogue. Famously,
00:28:51.609 --> 00:28:54.529
they were shooting without pages in a lot of
00:28:54.529 --> 00:28:56.950
places and improv -ing a lot. Robert Downey Jr.
00:28:57.130 --> 00:29:01.170
called Shane Black and asked for advice and maybe
00:29:01.170 --> 00:29:02.009
some lines. Oh, because of Kiss Kiss Bang Bang?
00:29:02.250 --> 00:29:06.309
Yeah. Well, I just when you said that, I was
00:29:06.309 --> 00:29:08.410
like, it's already pretty snarky. But like, I
00:29:08.410 --> 00:29:12.369
did feel like it was amplified the snark. And
00:29:12.369 --> 00:29:14.849
of course, I love that. Pepper is greeted by
00:29:14.849 --> 00:29:18.349
a smooth looking Aldrich Killian, who now is
00:29:18.349 --> 00:29:21.009
walking without a limp and has gotten rid of
00:29:21.009 --> 00:29:24.849
his got a haircut, funky hair and teeth and glasses.
00:29:25.029 --> 00:29:27.170
He's not wearing glasses. He's not wearing glasses
00:29:27.170 --> 00:29:29.809
either. Killian's he's like, he's like. Rachel
00:29:29.809 --> 00:29:33.869
Lee Cook in She's All That. He got stood up for
00:29:33.869 --> 00:29:36.789
the prom. And so he got a makeover. He doesn't
00:29:36.789 --> 00:29:38.930
have, well, he should have had a ponytail, but
00:29:38.930 --> 00:29:41.650
he doesn't have glasses anymore. So now he's
00:29:41.650 --> 00:29:44.309
hot. Still not as hot as Robert Downey Jr. Gwyneth
00:29:44.309 --> 00:29:46.650
Paltrow was like, oh my God. And I'm like, RDJ
00:29:46.650 --> 00:29:50.740
is still way hotter. Killian's think tank, AIM,
00:29:50.819 --> 00:29:54.420
has developed something called Extremis. He flirts
00:29:54.420 --> 00:29:57.900
with Pepper and shows her his big brain. I do
00:29:57.900 --> 00:30:01.259
think the effect of the projection with the little
00:30:01.259 --> 00:30:03.759
marble things is kind of a cool effect. It is.
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:06.539
I also like that he's like, look at this. Oh,
00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:10.339
wait, that's the universe. My bad. Here's what
00:30:10.339 --> 00:30:12.880
I wanted to show you. He's pretty smooth. I'll
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:16.559
give him that. Tony video calls Happy and video
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:19.640
chatting Happy is like video chatting with everyone's
00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:23.440
mom. It is so painful. He has so many funny lines
00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:25.000
in the scene where he's like, I'm not a tech
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:27.740
genius like you. I'm like, you can learn how
00:30:27.740 --> 00:30:30.279
to turn the screen around on an iPad. Is this
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:34.819
forehead of security? He's talked about he's
00:30:34.819 --> 00:30:37.539
he's feeling insecure because Tony's been hanging
00:30:37.539 --> 00:30:40.640
out with the super friends. He says Guy Pearce
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:43.880
has like. a lackey who's waiting for him in the
00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:47.980
lobby. And Happy's giving him the eye in a suspicious
00:30:47.980 --> 00:30:50.259
way, not in a flirty way. And he's like, I'm
00:30:50.259 --> 00:30:52.099
going to follow him if it gets rough. So be it.
00:30:52.339 --> 00:30:54.880
It's really funny. I think it's funny. Tony's
00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:58.819
the one who called Happy. And then when Happy
00:30:58.819 --> 00:31:02.000
is being annoying, Tony just leaves him in the
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:07.059
wine cellar. It's like you called him, man. Yeah,
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:10.740
that's classic Tony, though. The lackey you mentioned,
00:31:10.859 --> 00:31:13.319
I like lackey. I was calling him bodyguard because
00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:16.039
the character actually has a name. The character's
00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:19.500
name is Eric Savin, who is a comic book character.
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:23.119
Apparently, the character in the movie is loosely
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:27.000
based on the comic book character. I don't know.
00:31:27.099 --> 00:31:29.519
I don't know anything about Eric Savin, the comic
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:31.960
book character. I don't think they ever say his
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:33.799
name in the movie. I'm pretty sure they don't.
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:37.140
You might hear him say Savin at some point. Maybe
00:31:37.140 --> 00:31:40.170
once, but... I've seen this movie dozens of times
00:31:40.170 --> 00:31:42.769
and it was unclear to me until doing research
00:31:42.769 --> 00:31:45.829
for this what the character's name was. So we'll
00:31:45.829 --> 00:31:48.049
call him Lackey. I wrote down security guard
00:31:48.049 --> 00:31:50.769
in my notes. He's too smarmy. That's why I didn't
00:31:50.769 --> 00:31:53.509
see him as being a bodyguard type because he's
00:31:53.509 --> 00:31:57.430
smarmy. He is lackey. So Happy is suspicious
00:31:57.430 --> 00:32:01.670
of Killian and his lackey. Pepper says Extremis
00:32:01.670 --> 00:32:05.390
sounds potentially weaponizable and turns Killian
00:32:05.390 --> 00:32:08.690
down. Pepper arrives to Tony's Malibu mansion
00:32:08.690 --> 00:32:12.289
to a giant bunny. Well, and hers now too, apparently.
00:32:12.430 --> 00:32:17.390
They live together. And the Mark 42 suit is sitting
00:32:17.390 --> 00:32:20.410
on the couch. She thinks it's the Mark 15 or
00:32:20.410 --> 00:32:22.809
something. And Tony covers up the Mark 42 in
00:32:22.809 --> 00:32:25.289
the arm. It's a nice little visual gag. It turns
00:32:25.289 --> 00:32:29.609
out that Tony is multitasking and remote controlling
00:32:29.609 --> 00:32:32.130
the suit. Tony admits he's undergoing some sort
00:32:32.130 --> 00:32:35.029
of trauma or PTSD or something from the Battle
00:32:35.029 --> 00:32:38.180
of New York. He can't. sleep and he has been
00:32:38.180 --> 00:32:42.380
obsessively building suits since the movie of
00:32:42.380 --> 00:32:45.099
the since the events of the Avengers I had a
00:32:45.099 --> 00:32:47.920
question at this point just This is a very general
00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:49.960
question because we talked about how Christmas
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:52.259
features in Shane Black movies. Does he love
00:32:52.259 --> 00:32:54.880
or hate Christmas? Because it shows up a lot,
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:57.519
but there's always crazy stuff happening. I believe
00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:59.759
he loves Christmas. That would have been my guess,
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:01.900
but I wasn't 100 % sure. I didn't write it down,
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:04.099
but I saw some quotes from him about he just
00:33:04.099 --> 00:33:06.380
likes setting Christmas because it's a fun time
00:33:06.380 --> 00:33:09.740
of year. It's always fun to set Christmas music
00:33:09.740 --> 00:33:13.299
in the background of like a really crazy violent
00:33:13.299 --> 00:33:16.440
scene. So later that night in bed with... Pepper,
00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:20.480
Tony has nightmares of his near -sacrifice play
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:24.160
from the Battle of New York. This activates the
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:28.079
suit on remote and terrifies Pepper. Then at
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:30.779
the same time, I guess, even though there were
00:33:30.779 --> 00:33:33.440
a lot of people out in Los Angeles and Tony and
00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:36.710
Pepper were in theory, asleep in bed. So I don't
00:33:36.710 --> 00:33:39.049
know what time it's supposed to be. Happy followed
00:33:39.049 --> 00:33:43.309
Lackey to the Chinese theater in Los Angeles,
00:33:43.529 --> 00:33:46.369
witnesses what looks like a drug deal. Can you
00:33:46.369 --> 00:33:51.809
regulate? Lackey gives this guy a inhaler thing.
00:33:51.950 --> 00:33:53.730
I don't know exactly what you would call those.
00:33:53.950 --> 00:33:56.609
So Happy sees the guy glowing a little bit, steals
00:33:56.609 --> 00:34:00.730
one of those little triangle things. Pretty sneaky,
00:34:00.869 --> 00:34:04.529
Hap. But Lackey spots Happy. Happy punches him.
00:34:04.589 --> 00:34:07.309
He immediately heals and glows, then throws Happy
00:34:07.309 --> 00:34:09.449
through some glass. Meanwhile, the other guy
00:34:09.449 --> 00:34:15.869
overdoses on Extremis and explodes. So I will
00:34:15.869 --> 00:34:19.550
admit at this point that throughout the movie,
00:34:19.690 --> 00:34:22.909
throughout my notes, I refer to the people who
00:34:22.909 --> 00:34:26.590
are experiencing the effects of Extremis as lava
00:34:26.590 --> 00:34:29.070
monsters, because that is what they look like.
00:34:29.940 --> 00:34:38.380
The lava monster. Do they not look like the lava
00:34:38.380 --> 00:34:45.360
monster in The Good Place? They do. That's so
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:48.139
funny. I didn't know what was going on exactly.
00:34:48.619 --> 00:34:51.039
That's what it looked like to me. So that is
00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:55.900
how I was describing them to myself. Oh, that's
00:34:55.900 --> 00:34:59.440
so funny. Yes, Extremis turns them into lava
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:06.880
monsters. So after the explosion, were you worried
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:08.860
about Happy? Did you think Happy might have died?
00:35:09.059 --> 00:35:13.019
Is Happy dead? Four question marks. I was so
00:35:13.019 --> 00:35:16.260
worried. Lackey survives and heals, walking away.
00:35:16.420 --> 00:35:18.739
And then there's another Mandarin broadcast.
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:22.699
And the Mandarin takes credit. For the explosion
00:35:22.699 --> 00:35:25.619
and says it was a bombing. He also talks about
00:35:25.619 --> 00:35:27.800
the fortune cookies here, which this is the first
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:30.500
mention of fortune cookies being an American
00:35:30.500 --> 00:35:34.179
invention or an American invention, as he says.
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:37.760
And I was like, this isn't as profound as he
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:40.260
seems to think it is. But I had a greater appreciation
00:35:40.260 --> 00:35:43.440
for it later when he's saying the same thing
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:49.619
drunk and high. So Happy is hospitalized. Tony
00:35:49.619 --> 00:35:52.980
is by his side making sure that he can see Downton
00:35:52.980 --> 00:35:54.739
Abbey, which is his favorite show. Yeah, that
00:35:54.739 --> 00:35:57.139
was really sweet. Outside the hospital, Tony
00:35:57.139 --> 00:35:59.460
issues a challenge to the Mandarin through the
00:35:59.460 --> 00:36:04.639
scrum of reporters outside, then goes home and
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:06.519
does some - He has given out his home address.
00:36:06.900 --> 00:36:10.179
You say he issues a challenge. He gives out his
00:36:10.179 --> 00:36:14.619
home address on the air. To be fair, he has a
00:36:14.619 --> 00:36:19.039
very notable cliffside mansion in Malibu. That's
00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:21.300
true, I suppose. So I feel like the Mandarin
00:36:21.300 --> 00:36:25.820
probably already knew. where he lived, even though
00:36:25.820 --> 00:36:29.400
he issued the challenge on air. That's a decent
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:31.880
point. Tony does some crime scene reconstruction,
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:36.059
finds the dog tags, and starts asking, when is
00:36:36.059 --> 00:36:39.760
a bomb not a bomb? Tony finds a bombing that
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:42.219
matched the heat signature of the other Mandarin
00:36:42.219 --> 00:36:45.119
attacks, but the Mandarin didn't take credit
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:48.690
for it. in Tennessee. So Jarvis makes a flight
00:36:48.690 --> 00:36:52.590
plan, but then Maya Hansen rolls up to the mansion.
00:36:53.010 --> 00:36:54.969
They have a bit of a conversation. Tony acts
00:36:54.969 --> 00:36:56.730
like he doesn't remember who she is at first,
00:36:56.809 --> 00:37:00.929
but then he does admit that he did remember who
00:37:00.929 --> 00:37:04.130
Maya Hansen was. Is that just to kind of preserve
00:37:04.130 --> 00:37:08.849
his persona as disinterested playboy type, or
00:37:08.849 --> 00:37:10.630
is it because now he's with Pepper, or what?
00:37:10.730 --> 00:37:13.539
I don't know. Okay, just wondering. He has a
00:37:13.539 --> 00:37:17.079
moment when he says to Maya, you're not the Mandarin,
00:37:17.219 --> 00:37:22.500
are you? This is notable because in the original
00:37:22.500 --> 00:37:26.079
script, Maya Hansen was supposed to be the ultimate
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:29.539
villain. Oh, I wish she was. Women can be villains
00:37:29.539 --> 00:37:32.059
too. In the comic storyline for Extremis, the
00:37:32.059 --> 00:37:34.380
character was actually a lot more important and
00:37:34.380 --> 00:37:37.199
had a lot. Here's a Shane Black interview in...
00:37:37.469 --> 00:37:41.190
2016 so a few years later with Uproxx Shane Black
00:37:41.190 --> 00:37:44.570
says we replaced a lot of things the plot went
00:37:44.570 --> 00:37:47.469
this way and that way Stephanie Sozak's character
00:37:47.469 --> 00:37:50.150
was bigger at one point and we reduced it Rebecca
00:37:50.150 --> 00:37:52.510
Hall's character was bigger at one point and
00:37:52.510 --> 00:37:55.369
we reduced it the interviewer says why Rebecca
00:37:55.369 --> 00:37:58.010
Hall's character does have an abrupt ending Shane
00:37:58.010 --> 00:38:00.969
Black says all I'll say is this on the record
00:38:01.500 --> 00:38:03.599
There was an early draft of Iron Man 3 where
00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:05.840
we had an inkling of a problem, which is that
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:07.860
we had a female character who was the villain
00:38:07.860 --> 00:38:10.059
in the draft. We had finished the script and
00:38:10.059 --> 00:38:13.199
we were given a no holds barred memo saying that
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:16.139
that cannot stand. And we've changed our minds
00:38:16.139 --> 00:38:18.960
because after consulting, we've decided that
00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:21.820
a toy won't sell as well if it's female. The
00:38:21.820 --> 00:38:24.559
interviewer says, what? Shane Black says, so
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:26.860
we had to change the entire script because of
00:38:26.860 --> 00:38:30.139
toy making. Now that's not Feige. That's Marvel
00:38:30.139 --> 00:38:33.420
corporate. But New York called and said, that's
00:38:33.420 --> 00:38:36.000
money out of our bank. In the earlier draft,
00:38:36.179 --> 00:38:38.500
the woman was essentially Killian and they didn't
00:38:38.500 --> 00:38:40.780
want a female Killian. They wanted a male Killian.
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:43.699
I like the idea like Remington Steele. You think
00:38:43.699 --> 00:38:45.940
it's the man, but the end, the woman has been
00:38:45.940 --> 00:38:49.019
running the whole show. They just said, no way.
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:51.699
I feel like I'm turning into a lava monster.
00:38:51.940 --> 00:38:55.119
I could breathe fire like Guy Pearce does at
00:38:55.119 --> 00:39:00.750
the end. So that's enriching. Ike Perlmutter
00:39:00.750 --> 00:39:04.869
was the CEO of Marvel Entertainment pre -acquisition
00:39:04.869 --> 00:39:08.829
and retained control even after Disney acquired
00:39:08.829 --> 00:39:13.570
the company. And he was Kevin Feige's boss at
00:39:13.570 --> 00:39:17.349
the time. Perlmutter was previously a toy company
00:39:17.349 --> 00:39:21.269
executive before taking over Marvel and was also
00:39:21.269 --> 00:39:25.650
a notorious cheapskate. Also racist and sexist.
00:39:26.510 --> 00:39:28.889
Perlmutter was head of a group of people called
00:39:28.889 --> 00:39:32.610
the Creative Committee who had input into all
00:39:32.610 --> 00:39:36.489
Marvel Studios movies. So remember Ike Perlmutter's
00:39:36.489 --> 00:39:39.070
name because he's going to come up a lot more
00:39:39.070 --> 00:39:43.829
later on. I don't want to. But yeah, so that
00:39:43.829 --> 00:39:47.449
mandate that Maya Hansen ultimately couldn't
00:39:47.449 --> 00:39:50.849
be the bad guy came down from Ike Perlmutter.
00:39:52.250 --> 00:39:55.550
I'm literally snarling. Occasionally I get so
00:39:55.550 --> 00:39:57.550
excited about things that I literally feel like
00:39:57.550 --> 00:39:59.309
I could bounce off the walls. I feel like that
00:39:59.309 --> 00:40:05.309
now, but with rage. A lot of what went poorly
00:40:05.309 --> 00:40:10.829
for this phase of Marvel movies can be directly
00:40:10.829 --> 00:40:14.170
attributed to Ike Perlmutter or the creative
00:40:14.170 --> 00:40:16.590
committee in general. Well, I hate them. And
00:40:16.590 --> 00:40:19.690
him in particular. Let me talk about something
00:40:19.690 --> 00:40:22.309
that made me happy, just as a little bit of a
00:40:22.309 --> 00:40:25.690
kind of comedown from that. When Maya shows up
00:40:25.690 --> 00:40:27.989
and she rings the doorbell, Tony's like, we're
00:40:27.989 --> 00:40:29.730
supposed to be on security lockdown because,
00:40:29.809 --> 00:40:31.730
you know, he gave out his address to a bunch
00:40:31.730 --> 00:40:34.690
of reporters. And Jarvis says, there's only so
00:40:34.690 --> 00:40:36.989
much I can do when you give the press your home
00:40:36.989 --> 00:40:40.010
address. And I was like, thank you, Jarvis. Thank
00:40:40.010 --> 00:40:43.809
you. Sassy. I love it. Oh, I feel better now.
00:40:44.190 --> 00:40:47.210
Maya says she needs Tony's help. This is the
00:40:47.210 --> 00:40:49.530
very fraught scene. Pepper's trying to get them
00:40:49.530 --> 00:40:51.769
packed up to leave. Tony's like, I'm not leaving.
00:40:52.030 --> 00:40:54.550
Maya's trying to get them to leave, too. It's
00:40:54.550 --> 00:40:57.590
very stressful. I love I don't know why, but
00:40:57.590 --> 00:41:00.590
the line, it's a big bunny. Relax about it. It
00:41:00.590 --> 00:41:03.409
cracks me up every time. I like that. Tony's
00:41:03.409 --> 00:41:05.170
like, you didn't even say if you like it. I don't
00:41:05.170 --> 00:41:09.719
like it. On TV, the live coverage, they see a
00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:12.380
missile heading towards the mansion. And they're
00:41:12.380 --> 00:41:14.500
like, should we be worried about that? At the
00:41:14.500 --> 00:41:17.059
last minute, as the missile hits the mansion,
00:41:17.460 --> 00:41:20.980
Tony throws the armor on Pepper. Turns out Lackey
00:41:20.980 --> 00:41:25.059
is in a fake press helicopter and is bearing
00:41:25.059 --> 00:41:27.320
down with some other fake press helicopters that
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:29.480
are armed to the teeth. And they are shooting
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:33.099
a bunch of missiles at Tony's home. Can only
00:41:33.099 --> 00:41:36.340
one Iron Man suit? Like assemble itself at a
00:41:36.340 --> 00:41:39.159
time? Because he's vulnerable because he puts
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:42.219
the suit on Pepper. But he has a bunch of them.
00:41:42.300 --> 00:41:45.059
The idea is that at this point, he does have
00:41:45.059 --> 00:41:48.019
a bunch of them, but they are all prototypes.
00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:52.000
Oh, okay. And in theory, the only one that he
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:55.739
can independently assemble like that is the Mark
00:41:55.739 --> 00:41:59.980
42. Okay. So. He also later tells Rhodey that
00:41:59.980 --> 00:42:03.139
the suit is only. Keyed to him. But he puts it
00:42:03.139 --> 00:42:06.909
on Pepper. He can throw the Mark 42 onto people
00:42:06.909 --> 00:42:08.750
as he does. He throws it on Pepper. He throws
00:42:08.750 --> 00:42:10.469
it on Killian at the end. Right, right, right.
00:42:10.590 --> 00:42:12.590
But the other suits don't go on anyone else,
00:42:12.610 --> 00:42:15.710
essentially. Pepper saves him in the suit. And
00:42:15.710 --> 00:42:19.070
she says, I got you. And he says, I got you first.
00:42:19.309 --> 00:42:22.170
And I'm like, OK, brag. Like, relax about it.
00:42:22.409 --> 00:42:27.550
Go back to that line. It's a bit of a shout out
00:42:27.550 --> 00:42:32.210
to the comics where Pepper gets a suit in the
00:42:32.210 --> 00:42:36.599
comics and is a character called Rescue. So having
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:38.559
Pepper here in the suit is a little bit of a
00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:42.019
nod to her rescue suit in the comics. But Pepper
00:42:42.019 --> 00:42:43.719
is suited up. She gets to do a little bit of
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:46.239
heroic saving Tony and then getting Maya out
00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:50.800
as the mansion comes down. The big ass bunny
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:55.039
is on fire. Once they are clear, Tony summons
00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:58.320
the suit back to him. But the Mark 42 is not
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:01.039
combat ready. So he has to do a little bit of
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:05.480
Shane Black improvisation to take out the fake
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:08.579
press helicopters. He does miss Lackey's helicopter
00:43:08.579 --> 00:43:12.760
and Lackey flies off and Tony falls into the
00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:17.699
ocean. I have a question. Where is Jarvis? Like,
00:43:17.699 --> 00:43:21.420
where does he exist? I mean, he's software. So
00:43:21.420 --> 00:43:26.519
he runs on the suits, but he also runs on Stark's
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:29.260
servers wherever. Because he's with him, obviously,
00:43:29.380 --> 00:43:32.239
when he gets to Tennessee. Yeah. So when he's
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:34.380
with him, he's running out of the suit, basically.
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:37.659
I wrote too much crash. Tony barely survives.
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:42.599
The last blast is rescued by... I like the scene
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:46.590
where... Jarvis takes control of the suit and
00:43:46.590 --> 00:43:50.489
takes the arm off and pulls Tony out, even though
00:43:50.489 --> 00:43:52.070
it doesn't necessarily make much sense. It's
00:43:52.070 --> 00:43:54.889
a nice visual image. Puts the arm back on Tony
00:43:54.889 --> 00:43:59.469
and then Tony flies off. Tony passes out and
00:43:59.469 --> 00:44:03.070
comes to with his suit running out of power and
00:44:03.070 --> 00:44:06.550
crashing in snowy Rose Hill, Tennessee, because
00:44:06.550 --> 00:44:10.170
that's where Jarvis set the flight path. I think
00:44:10.170 --> 00:44:13.110
it's kind of funny. Tony wakes up and is like,
00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:15.300
why did you bring me to Tennessee and then Jarvis
00:44:15.300 --> 00:44:18.539
is like I'm powering down I'm like he just doesn't
00:44:18.539 --> 00:44:21.019
want to get in trouble for taking Tony to Tennessee
00:44:21.019 --> 00:44:24.099
it was like it was the flight path this is a
00:44:24.099 --> 00:44:26.460
ruse I like that Jarvis running out of power
00:44:26.460 --> 00:44:29.769
is a little bit drunk yeah This is where, as
00:44:29.769 --> 00:44:31.469
I told you while we were watching the movie,
00:44:31.670 --> 00:44:35.510
I remembered the Shane Black checklist. And I
00:44:35.510 --> 00:44:38.989
said, is he going to meet the child in Tennessee?
00:44:39.210 --> 00:44:42.349
Because he's alone now. So this is a really good
00:44:42.349 --> 00:44:45.130
time for him to get a precocious kid sidekick.
00:44:45.630 --> 00:44:49.059
And I'm almost immediately proved right. You
00:44:49.059 --> 00:44:51.500
are almost immediately proved right because after
00:44:51.500 --> 00:44:55.380
Tony leaves a message for Pepper and steals a
00:44:55.380 --> 00:45:00.739
poncho from a cigar store Indian, he then breaks
00:45:00.739 --> 00:45:03.079
into a nearby garage, starts working, and is
00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:06.579
ambushed by 12 -year -old Harley Kiner with a
00:45:06.579 --> 00:45:08.940
potato gun. I think Harley is an interesting
00:45:08.940 --> 00:45:12.639
choice for a name for... Well, is he in the comic?
00:45:12.940 --> 00:45:14.840
No, I don't think so. Okay. Well, just because
00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:17.679
I'm like, there's a pretty famous Harley that's
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:20.909
a female. villain oh yeah on the other side the
00:45:20.909 --> 00:45:24.250
other comic side it's you say that I mean because
00:45:24.250 --> 00:45:27.750
her name is Harley Quinn because Harlequin well
00:45:27.750 --> 00:45:31.690
right I know but like she's her name is Harley
00:45:31.690 --> 00:45:34.429
Harley yeah but I also then was thinking because
00:45:34.429 --> 00:45:35.849
that was the first thing I thought of when he
00:45:35.849 --> 00:45:37.869
said his name was Harley but then I was like
00:45:37.869 --> 00:45:41.090
but How famous was she at this point in time?
00:45:41.090 --> 00:45:44.389
Pretty famous. Okay. Well, oh, because. It was
00:45:44.389 --> 00:45:47.789
before. I do believe it was before the David
00:45:47.789 --> 00:45:50.510
Ayer Suicide Squad. Yeah. And everybody wearing
00:45:50.510 --> 00:45:54.550
Margot Robbie. Yeah. That's what I figured. Short
00:45:54.550 --> 00:45:57.090
hot pants. Margot Robbie hot pants for Halloween
00:45:57.090 --> 00:45:59.489
and everything. But so I believe it was before
00:45:59.489 --> 00:46:02.869
that. but the character was still pretty popular
00:46:02.869 --> 00:46:04.409
at that point. Yeah, so I don't know. It just
00:46:04.409 --> 00:46:06.130
was like, I thought it was an intro because it's
00:46:06.130 --> 00:46:08.309
not a super common name. It's not a super uncommon
00:46:08.309 --> 00:46:10.550
name either, but I was just like, huh, really?
00:46:10.610 --> 00:46:13.050
I knew a Harley when I was 12. All right. A boy
00:46:13.050 --> 00:46:16.230
or a girl? A boy. Oh, all right. He had been
00:46:16.230 --> 00:46:18.969
Scooter when he was a kid and he didn't like
00:46:18.969 --> 00:46:20.889
the nickname Scooter. So he grew into Harley.
00:46:21.130 --> 00:46:24.630
Is that true? Yes. Oh, my God. Newspapers in
00:46:24.630 --> 00:46:26.789
Tennessee apparently print very fast because
00:46:26.789 --> 00:46:28.909
I believe this is supposed to be the same day.
00:46:28.969 --> 00:46:32.010
But Harley has a newspaper that has Iron Man
00:46:32.010 --> 00:46:34.909
dead question mark or whatever on it. Does the
00:46:34.909 --> 00:46:37.889
Iron Man suit fly as fast as a plane? Because
00:46:37.889 --> 00:46:40.150
you could probably make faster than a plane.
00:46:40.289 --> 00:46:42.409
OK, because you could fly from California to
00:46:42.409 --> 00:46:47.550
Tennessee in a few hours. Their dialogue is pretty
00:46:47.550 --> 00:46:52.929
fun. I love the bit where you reacted very strongly
00:46:52.929 --> 00:46:55.510
to the line, which happens. Dad's leave. No need
00:46:55.510 --> 00:46:58.690
to be a pussy about it. I was a gog. He called
00:46:58.690 --> 00:47:05.349
the child a pussy. My lord. Harley is immediately
00:47:05.349 --> 00:47:08.369
super precocious because Tony asks where his
00:47:08.369 --> 00:47:10.250
parents are. And he's like, my mom already went
00:47:10.250 --> 00:47:12.909
to the diner. My dad went to the 7 -Eleven to
00:47:12.909 --> 00:47:14.730
get scratchers. I guess he must have won because
00:47:14.730 --> 00:47:17.989
that was six years ago. Yeah, the kid is full
00:47:17.989 --> 00:47:21.849
Shane Black kid. So you had mentioned that Ty
00:47:21.849 --> 00:47:24.489
Simpkins is in Insidious, which I have seen.
00:47:24.809 --> 00:47:27.130
Insidious, I believe, from 2011. So two years
00:47:27.130 --> 00:47:30.159
prior to this. Did recognize him immediately,
00:47:30.380 --> 00:47:33.760
but you obviously have not seen Insidious. The
00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:37.719
very basic premise of that movie is that his
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:43.000
character goes into like a coma and his parents
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:45.579
have to rescue him from like a sort of dream
00:47:45.579 --> 00:47:50.099
world. So he barely speaks in Insidious. So even
00:47:50.099 --> 00:47:54.400
though I knew him, I was not prepared for the
00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:57.679
precociousness. He's also, you might recall,
00:47:57.860 --> 00:48:02.760
the kid who finds the deceased porno young lady
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:08.099
in the beginning of The Nice Guys. Yes. And he
00:48:08.099 --> 00:48:10.719
covers her up. Love that. I actually didn't remember
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:13.340
that was him. So. Back to California, Pepper
00:48:13.340 --> 00:48:17.019
is holding the Iron Man helmet from the, well,
00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:20.199
I guess it's in theory it's from the Mark 42,
00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:22.820
but I guess not because the Mark 42 helmet is
00:48:22.820 --> 00:48:26.000
with Tony. None of this really makes sense because
00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:28.480
she holds it to her face and I think it's supposed
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:30.480
to be sort of a touching moment, but I'm like.
00:48:30.539 --> 00:48:33.539
It's a trailer shot too. It's just weird. It's
00:48:33.539 --> 00:48:36.519
100 % a trailer shot because it looks like she's
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:39.880
grieving a dead Tony and she holds the, and it
00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:42.500
looks good in the trailer. really does i'm sure
00:48:42.500 --> 00:48:45.980
but it it's just weird but it's convenient because
00:48:45.980 --> 00:48:47.840
it's convenient because she hears the beeping
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:51.880
and puts it on it recognizes her and plays tony's
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:56.579
voicemail to her so now she goes with maya and
00:48:56.579 --> 00:49:00.719
maya says that her boss she thinks is working
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:04.639
for the mandarin and her boss is aldrich killing
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:07.530
him then did she meet him do we know When Maya
00:49:07.530 --> 00:49:10.750
met. She took his card in Bern. Okay. That's
00:49:10.750 --> 00:49:12.050
what I thought. So that was where. So she actually
00:49:12.050 --> 00:49:14.250
kept the card. Okay. So, and it turns out that
00:49:14.250 --> 00:49:18.150
yes, Killian is there on set with the Mandarin
00:49:18.150 --> 00:49:20.690
getting ready to shoot. Back in Tennessee, Harley
00:49:20.690 --> 00:49:24.150
bugs Tony about New York and the Avengers after
00:49:24.150 --> 00:49:27.130
giving Tony his sister's door a watch. It's limited
00:49:27.130 --> 00:49:31.320
edition. He takes Tony to the bombing site where
00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:34.099
a former soldier supposedly had a suicide bombing,
00:49:34.300 --> 00:49:36.920
but Tony notices that the bomber didn't leave
00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:39.699
a shadow unlike the other victims. Those shadows
00:49:39.699 --> 00:49:42.780
heavily inspired by shadows that actual victims
00:49:42.780 --> 00:49:46.039
at Hiroshima left. Oh, wow. That's dark. Yeah.
00:49:46.179 --> 00:49:49.739
Talking about New York gives Tony another anxiety
00:49:49.739 --> 00:49:54.400
attack. I'm not surprised that. The kid instigates
00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:56.679
this anxiety attack because I was getting anxious
00:49:56.679 --> 00:50:01.269
listening to all of his questions. Then Tony
00:50:01.269 --> 00:50:05.630
goes to meet the bomber's mom at a bar. Briefly
00:50:05.630 --> 00:50:08.909
has a flirty encounter with a striking lady with
00:50:08.909 --> 00:50:11.349
short red hair and facial scarring outside the
00:50:11.349 --> 00:50:14.670
bar. Meets the bomber's mom. It's Dale Dickey.
00:50:14.789 --> 00:50:17.829
If you need a white trash older lady, you cast
00:50:17.829 --> 00:50:21.010
Dale Dickey. That is 100%. Poor Dale Dickey.
00:50:21.130 --> 00:50:24.349
She has the market cornered on white trash older
00:50:24.349 --> 00:50:30.329
ladies. I feel bad for her. She's making a living.
00:50:30.409 --> 00:50:32.269
She's probably living real nicely. She's got
00:50:32.269 --> 00:50:35.829
a pretty good career in that area, but what a
00:50:35.829 --> 00:50:38.269
thing to be known for. Turns out she was there
00:50:38.269 --> 00:50:41.590
to meet someone else because she has a file.
00:50:41.750 --> 00:50:44.449
The redhead comes back in. That's Stephanie Sozak,
00:50:44.670 --> 00:50:46.829
which why was she leaving in the first place?
00:50:46.929 --> 00:50:49.670
She left the bar and then she comes back in to
00:50:49.670 --> 00:50:52.389
meet Dale Dickey. And it's like, why were you
00:50:52.389 --> 00:50:54.909
leaving in the first place? She pretends to be
00:50:54.909 --> 00:50:58.260
Homeland Security. I like that the sheriff of
00:50:58.260 --> 00:51:01.139
the town is pretty savvy and does not like immediately
00:51:01.139 --> 00:51:04.460
roll over. Yeah. But then she murders him and
00:51:04.460 --> 00:51:07.260
a bunch of other people. This is another moment
00:51:07.260 --> 00:51:09.400
where I gasped. And I'm not even really sure
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:12.420
if the gasp was warranted or if I was just being
00:51:12.420 --> 00:51:17.300
me. Because when we first see the file that Dale
00:51:17.300 --> 00:51:20.619
Dickey has, it's her son. And then it's also
00:51:20.619 --> 00:51:25.119
the guy from the drug deal type interaction.
00:51:25.449 --> 00:51:28.269
Yeah, the one who blew up the Chinese theater.
00:51:28.389 --> 00:51:31.190
And so I was like, that's that guy. But was that
00:51:31.190 --> 00:51:36.110
not really a big reveal? It's so crazy that you
00:51:36.110 --> 00:51:38.750
recognized him, but you didn't recognize Guy
00:51:38.750 --> 00:51:41.309
Pearce in the beginning. I will never understand.
00:51:41.349 --> 00:51:44.949
My brain is fascinating. There's another person
00:51:44.949 --> 00:51:47.690
you recognized later on. We'll get to who you
00:51:47.690 --> 00:51:50.469
had a moment of recognition. We'll get to that
00:51:50.469 --> 00:51:53.610
when we get to that scene. You know, but I'm
00:51:53.610 --> 00:51:56.789
just like all of the, you know, the teenage boys
00:51:56.789 --> 00:52:01.170
in 90s movies. If you have glasses and long stringy
00:52:01.170 --> 00:52:04.289
hair, I will not recognize you. I will look right
00:52:04.289 --> 00:52:17.619
past you. So a fight scene breaks out with the
00:52:17.619 --> 00:52:21.880
redhead. She also has a name that was inspired
00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:24.559
by the comics. And I don't think they say it.
00:52:24.579 --> 00:52:27.019
They might. She does give her name. She introduces
00:52:27.019 --> 00:52:29.659
herself. With the character's name. Ellen Brandt.
00:52:29.659 --> 00:52:31.800
Yeah. And Ellen Brandt is another comic book
00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:34.460
character. They pinched the name. Has almost
00:52:34.460 --> 00:52:37.179
nothing to do with anything in the Extremis storyline
00:52:37.179 --> 00:52:39.099
or anything else. I think it was Ellen. It was
00:52:39.099 --> 00:52:40.840
definitely Brandt. You're correct. It is Ellen
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:44.719
Brandt. She was originally envisioned as lackey.
00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:47.079
So she would be the one who keeps coming back
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:49.860
and getting in Tony's way and everything. And
00:52:49.860 --> 00:52:52.639
again, that was can't have a girl lackey. Of
00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:55.460
course. I did appreciate that during this fight
00:52:55.460 --> 00:52:58.280
scene, this is small town Tennessee and random
00:52:58.280 --> 00:53:01.000
people have guns. Yeah. Because it's small town
00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:04.099
Tennessee. So the town is armed. My favorite
00:53:04.099 --> 00:53:06.980
moment in the whole fight scene is when Tony
00:53:06.980 --> 00:53:09.739
is like hiding behind a car or something and
00:53:09.739 --> 00:53:11.780
he sees another guy hiding and he goes, crazy,
00:53:11.840 --> 00:53:16.079
huh? And the other guy goes, yeah. So at the
00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:20.219
end of the fight scene, Tony explodes Ms. Brandt
00:53:20.219 --> 00:53:23.920
with an improvised gas explosion and metal in
00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:27.539
a microwave. Yeah. The entire movie, I actually
00:53:27.539 --> 00:53:30.099
made this note at the end, but I'm going to just
00:53:30.099 --> 00:53:32.840
mention it here too, that I did not understand
00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:37.000
the mortality of the lava monsters because there
00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:38.599
are things where I'm like, does that kill them?
00:53:38.780 --> 00:53:40.300
That should kill them. Oh, it didn't. Oh, that
00:53:40.300 --> 00:53:42.340
shouldn't kill them. Oh, it did. One thing I
00:53:42.340 --> 00:53:44.760
didn't mention the first cut of the movie was
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:50.530
over three hours long. So there's a lot on the
00:53:50.530 --> 00:53:52.730
cutting room floor. I don't know how much of
00:53:52.730 --> 00:53:55.710
that was Stephanie Sozak's part if she ended
00:53:55.710 --> 00:53:57.550
up on the cutting room floor or if they cut that
00:53:57.550 --> 00:53:59.949
during the writing process because, ooh, girl.
00:54:00.090 --> 00:54:03.590
But yeah, there was a lot of the movie that was
00:54:03.590 --> 00:54:07.369
trimmed out. So Lackey is there. Lackey takes
00:54:07.369 --> 00:54:10.690
out a water tower, which seems extraordinarily
00:54:10.690 --> 00:54:13.469
inefficient. I don't know why he did that. Yeah,
00:54:13.469 --> 00:54:16.389
I didn't understand. the scene but tony gets
00:54:16.389 --> 00:54:19.630
trapped under the water tower and then he takes
00:54:19.630 --> 00:54:22.989
harley hostage which again if he already had
00:54:22.989 --> 00:54:25.110
harley why did he need to take down the water
00:54:25.110 --> 00:54:28.170
tower i don't know Dramatic effect. He can melt
00:54:28.170 --> 00:54:30.849
stuff. Harley uses the flash thingy that Tony
00:54:30.849 --> 00:54:34.510
gave him to fight bullies. And then Tony hits
00:54:34.510 --> 00:54:37.809
him with an emergency repulsor that he had hidden
00:54:37.809 --> 00:54:40.769
up his sleeve. That's apparently a one and done
00:54:40.769 --> 00:54:43.010
type thing. Tony's going to go off. He has their
00:54:43.010 --> 00:54:45.510
fun little we're connected moment with Harley.
00:54:45.610 --> 00:54:49.929
We cut to another part of the street and Harley
00:54:49.929 --> 00:54:54.110
is wearing a hat on a hood. And I literally said
00:54:54.110 --> 00:54:57.510
out loud, what is that hat? was so weird and
00:54:57.510 --> 00:54:59.969
unnecessary i don't know it really struck me
00:54:59.969 --> 00:55:02.769
but yes they have a very cute conversation i'm
00:55:02.769 --> 00:55:05.659
cold yeah You know how I can tell? Because we're
00:55:05.659 --> 00:55:09.920
connected. Drives off. There's another Mandarin
00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:12.699
broadcast. This is the scary one where the Mandarin
00:55:12.699 --> 00:55:16.880
has a Roxxon Oil executive, the Roxxon Oil Company,
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:20.099
a longstanding thing in Marvel comics. He says
00:55:20.099 --> 00:55:22.840
he's going to execute him if the president doesn't
00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:26.699
call. The president calls, even though he probably
00:55:26.699 --> 00:55:29.400
shouldn't. The Mandarin lets it ring and then
00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:32.619
supposedly shoots the executive anyway with the
00:55:32.619 --> 00:55:36.260
world watching. in horror it's in this scene
00:55:36.260 --> 00:55:40.280
that we first really see miguel ferrer miguel
00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:43.099
ferrer as the vice president yes we i think we
00:55:43.099 --> 00:55:45.179
saw him very briefly at the beginning of the
00:55:45.179 --> 00:55:48.480
movie but this is where we really i mean he honestly
00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:51.739
doesn't have a lot to like he's barely in this
00:55:51.739 --> 00:55:54.239
movie right which did surprise me a little bit
00:55:54.239 --> 00:55:57.199
again there's probably a lot of yeah yeah true
00:55:57.199 --> 00:56:01.219
uh and you have um William Sadler as President
00:56:01.219 --> 00:56:04.739
Ellis, apparently named after Warren Ellis, who
00:56:04.739 --> 00:56:07.880
is the writer who is responsible for most of
00:56:07.880 --> 00:56:11.019
the Extremis arc in the Iron Man comics. Oh,
00:56:11.019 --> 00:56:13.099
that's nice. President Ellis was named after
00:56:13.099 --> 00:56:16.380
that writer. The president dispatches Rhodey
00:56:16.380 --> 00:56:19.099
to the source of the broadcast. While Rhodey
00:56:19.099 --> 00:56:22.760
is in Pakistan, Tony calls him. It turns out
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:25.659
that AIM did the Iron Patriot remodel on his
00:56:25.659 --> 00:56:30.800
suit. So Tony needs Rhodey's. password war machine
00:56:30.800 --> 00:56:34.320
rocks war machine rocks they also have a conversation
00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:38.699
about which name is better war machine or iron
00:56:38.699 --> 00:56:40.760
patriot iron patriot and you know what i said
00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:43.820
what's the best name chrome man but he's not
00:56:43.820 --> 00:56:46.239
really chrome anymore in this movie so right
00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:49.309
he's very spangly yeah he's Star spangled. There
00:56:49.309 --> 00:56:51.929
is a pageant going on in Rose Hill, Tennessee,
00:56:52.070 --> 00:56:55.710
and Stanley cameo as a pageant judge. Very enthusiastic
00:56:55.710 --> 00:56:59.170
one. It's too cold for bikinis. It's Christmas
00:56:59.170 --> 00:57:02.650
time. Well, they're inside. All right. We meet
00:57:02.650 --> 00:57:05.869
Gary. Yeah. Tony breaks into a broadcast van
00:57:05.869 --> 00:57:10.489
maintained by super fan Gary. Gary. He's on the
00:57:10.489 --> 00:57:13.050
phone. He says he sees him and he says, Mom,
00:57:13.170 --> 00:57:14.730
I have to call you back. Something magical is
00:57:14.730 --> 00:57:20.219
happening. It is unclear at this point how long
00:57:20.219 --> 00:57:22.000
it's been since the mansion attack because we
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:25.760
haven't seen daylight but this is a lot to be
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:30.099
happening in one evening so i would assume that
00:57:30.099 --> 00:57:35.199
tony slept during the day so he he crashes in
00:57:35.199 --> 00:57:38.380
the garage that's when harley finds him he sleeps
00:57:38.380 --> 00:57:41.539
and then the next day this starts the next night
00:57:41.539 --> 00:57:46.619
okay with the confrontation at the bar and the
00:57:46.619 --> 00:57:50.320
then the pageant i also where exactly are we
00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:53.199
in relation to christmas Because it could be
00:57:53.199 --> 00:57:56.119
December 1st. It could be Christmas Eve. That
00:57:56.119 --> 00:57:59.619
is an excellent question. I believe the idea
00:57:59.619 --> 00:58:03.920
is that the president was to be executed on Christmas
00:58:03.920 --> 00:58:06.619
Eve. Okay, that makes sense. But I'm not 100
00:58:06.619 --> 00:58:11.039
% sure. Superfan Gary helps Tony get access.
00:58:11.800 --> 00:58:17.000
in the van to view Ames video records of extremis
00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:20.800
experiments. So extremis helped some military
00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:24.400
vets regrow limbs and heal miraculously, but
00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:28.019
like the plant in the cold open, it is unstable
00:58:28.019 --> 00:58:31.460
and sometimes people explode. So they don't always
00:58:31.460 --> 00:58:33.179
explode. They don't always explode. Just sometimes.
00:58:33.480 --> 00:58:36.059
Just sometimes. Well, you know. It's a risky
00:58:36.059 --> 00:58:38.719
take. There's always side effects to treatment.
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:42.179
Right. Sometimes you explode a little bit and
00:58:42.179 --> 00:58:44.599
turn into a lava monster. I'm just like thinking
00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:47.199
about commercials for pharmaceuticals where it's
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:48.960
like, please call a doctor if you experience
00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:51.679
any of the following symptoms. Explosion. Fire
00:58:51.679 --> 00:58:55.840
breath. But that is another question, though.
00:58:55.960 --> 00:58:57.840
They don't always explode, but do they always
00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:00.300
turn into lava monsters? It seems like they do.
00:59:00.300 --> 00:59:01.639
They turn into lava monsters when they're healing.
00:59:01.860 --> 00:59:04.769
Yeah. Okay. And when they're... Okay. doing things
00:59:04.769 --> 00:59:06.730
and apparently they can kind of control the heat
00:59:06.730 --> 00:59:09.849
too back in california maya and pepper are talking
00:59:09.849 --> 00:59:13.449
in a hotel question mark i'm not really sure
00:59:13.449 --> 00:59:15.929
what it was a nice hotel it looked like a mansion
00:59:15.929 --> 00:59:17.750
i don't know you barely see it killian comes
00:59:17.750 --> 00:59:20.789
in and unnecessarily kills some poor room service
00:59:20.789 --> 00:59:23.769
guy there's a room service guy there killing
00:59:23.769 --> 00:59:26.610
just comes behind very snaps his neck abrupt
00:59:26.610 --> 00:59:30.019
villain turn And then we find out very quickly
00:59:30.019 --> 00:59:33.420
that Maya is still working for Killian and they
00:59:33.420 --> 00:59:36.820
take Pepper hostage. I suspected. To motivate
00:59:36.820 --> 00:59:39.539
Tony. Rhodey thinks he's at the broadcast source
00:59:39.539 --> 00:59:42.960
in Pakistan, but his suit gets hacked yet again.
00:59:43.019 --> 00:59:45.239
Poor Rhodey. This is the second time in a row
00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:48.420
that his suit gets taken over by a bad guy who
00:59:48.420 --> 00:59:52.139
had remodeled his suit. So he just needs to stop
00:59:52.139 --> 00:59:54.380
letting other people remodel his suits. This
00:59:54.380 --> 00:59:58.300
is where he's in. Like basically a sweatshop.
00:59:58.739 --> 01:00:02.599
Yes. He thinks that it is Miss Fire, basically,
01:00:02.659 --> 01:00:06.800
that he's there. And then the last woman to file
01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:09.119
out of the room attacks him. Is this where I
01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:11.400
recognize someone? You did. Do you know her?
01:00:11.539 --> 01:00:14.619
I looked her up because I did not recognize her.
01:00:14.659 --> 01:00:17.219
And you recognize her from Lost. From Lost. Yep.
01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:19.760
I was like, she was on 22 episodes of Lost. And
01:00:19.760 --> 01:00:22.000
I'm like, I do not remember her character at
01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:26.289
all. She is, if you remember when the helicopter
01:00:26.289 --> 01:00:30.730
comes and it's the psychic guy, Frank Lapidus,
01:00:30.769 --> 01:00:34.550
the pilot, she's on the helicopter with all of
01:00:34.550 --> 01:00:37.570
them. 100 % do not remember. But yeah, you recognize
01:00:37.570 --> 01:00:39.510
her. Immediately. Well, I've watched Lost a bunch
01:00:39.510 --> 01:00:43.429
of times. Her character doesn't even have a name.
01:00:43.429 --> 01:00:45.690
Her character is just sweatshop agent. Yeah.
01:00:45.809 --> 01:00:47.510
She has a name in Lost, though. It's Charlotte.
01:00:47.610 --> 01:00:48.909
And that's what I wrote in my notes. Charlotte!
01:00:49.050 --> 01:00:51.739
Exclamation point. Again, I do not understand
01:00:51.739 --> 01:00:53.739
how your brain works. You immediately recognize
01:00:53.739 --> 01:00:55.940
her from Lost. I've watched Lost a lot. I've
01:00:55.940 --> 01:00:58.360
watched that show multiple times. So that one
01:00:58.360 --> 01:01:00.039
makes a little bit more sense than recognizing
01:01:00.039 --> 01:01:03.260
the random guy from the drug deal in a picture
01:01:03.260 --> 01:01:06.420
in a file. That one I will give you. But I know
01:01:06.420 --> 01:01:09.920
Charlotte. Tony used AIM to pinpoint the source
01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:12.440
of the Mandarin's broadcast. It turns out that
01:01:12.440 --> 01:01:16.099
the Mandarin is actually... In Miami. Welcome
01:01:16.099 --> 01:01:20.780
to Miami. Bienvenido a Miami. Just a short drive
01:01:20.780 --> 01:01:23.739
from Tennessee, apparently. Well, yeah, Tennessee
01:01:23.739 --> 01:01:26.119
and Florida aren't that far apart. You're not
01:01:26.119 --> 01:01:29.119
at East Coaster. Tony has another panic attack,
01:01:29.300 --> 01:01:31.960
but Harley snaps him out of it by saying, why
01:01:31.960 --> 01:01:34.519
don't you just build something? You're a mechanic.
01:01:35.039 --> 01:01:37.599
Tony goes to a hardware store, buys a bunch of
01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:40.079
stuff to make some improvised weaponry. He makes
01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:42.539
an ornament bomb. I did appreciate the ornament
01:01:42.539 --> 01:01:47.190
bomb. Which I loved. That was great. Also, Jarvis
01:01:47.190 --> 01:01:50.510
has aphasia. Yeah, Jarvis has a bit of aphasia
01:01:50.510 --> 01:01:53.309
when he messes up some words and he's still charging
01:01:53.309 --> 01:01:58.690
up. Tony invades the compound in Miami, takes
01:01:58.690 --> 01:02:01.409
a bunch of guards out with his improvised weapons.
01:02:01.530 --> 01:02:03.989
He does have a gun, but he still has fun with
01:02:03.989 --> 01:02:06.170
the silenced improvised weapons. He has a lot
01:02:06.170 --> 01:02:10.469
of flair. Tony finds two girls in the bedroom
01:02:10.469 --> 01:02:15.360
and then is greeted by... Trevor Slattery. Yes.
01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:19.760
AKA the Mandarin. Yes. Coming out with his. So
01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:23.920
funny. Very thick British accent coming out of
01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:25.820
the toilet saying, oh, don't go in there for
01:02:25.820 --> 01:02:30.059
a while. You know, I have to say when he first
01:02:30.059 --> 01:02:33.980
emerges and we are realizing that he is not who
01:02:33.980 --> 01:02:36.969
we thought he was. I thought it was. almost a
01:02:36.969 --> 01:02:39.849
bit of a social commentary on how like he is
01:02:39.849 --> 01:02:43.469
he's really posing i mean the line gets a little
01:02:43.469 --> 01:02:45.750
bit blurred right there there's a fine line between
01:02:45.750 --> 01:02:47.769
what i initially thought and what it really is
01:02:47.769 --> 01:02:49.949
but it's kind of like he's doing this intentionally
01:02:49.949 --> 01:02:54.130
he's portraying the mandarin but he's also it's
01:02:54.130 --> 01:02:56.869
like sort of fake you know a fake persona that
01:02:56.869 --> 01:03:00.550
he's choosing to put on sort of uh and then it's
01:03:00.550 --> 01:03:03.150
so much better than that it's so much better
01:03:03.150 --> 01:03:06.070
than that Something I never noticed before this
01:03:06.070 --> 01:03:08.239
watch, and I've seen this movie. Quite a few
01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:11.300
times, as it's one of my regular Christmas movies,
01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:14.920
when Tony forces the two girls into the bathroom,
01:03:15.099 --> 01:03:17.320
they make disgusted noises in the background.
01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:20.099
Oh, I miss that. You can hear them going, oh,
01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:24.079
oh, it's awful. I miss that. I'm not sure if
01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:25.539
what I was just saying was clear enough. And
01:03:25.539 --> 01:03:27.460
I thought of another way to put it is that I
01:03:27.460 --> 01:03:31.099
thought that his character, he truly hates America
01:03:31.099 --> 01:03:34.719
and is truly killing people. But also he indulges
01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:38.050
in his own sort of hedonistic. desires in the
01:03:38.050 --> 01:03:40.550
background. That's what I thought was going to
01:03:40.550 --> 01:03:43.389
be the case with him. I did not realize he was
01:03:43.389 --> 01:03:46.150
going to be just a straight up actor who doesn't
01:03:46.150 --> 01:03:48.909
even know what he's doing. A straight up actor,
01:03:49.110 --> 01:03:52.420
Trevor Slattery. His name is Trevor! Trevor!
01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:55.579
A drug addicted actor down on his luck who is
01:03:55.579 --> 01:03:59.059
recruited by Killian to be the front man for
01:03:59.059 --> 01:04:02.500
AIMS terrorism. And not even really the front
01:04:02.500 --> 01:04:04.619
man for terrorism, but really just to take credit
01:04:04.619 --> 01:04:08.559
for the accidental extremist explosions and to
01:04:08.559 --> 01:04:12.719
position him in a way that he can execute his
01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:15.840
master plan. I just got really worked up. So
01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:17.880
I'm very sorry about that. But like, seriously,
01:04:18.119 --> 01:04:22.059
the name Trevor is just the funny. name you could
01:04:22.059 --> 01:04:24.699
give that character. It's really funny. I will
01:04:24.699 --> 01:04:27.619
say this just to get you a little bit excited.
01:04:27.659 --> 01:04:31.480
This is not the last we see of Trevor Slattery.
01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:37.280
Yay! Yay! I also noted that he is when he's explaining
01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:40.880
why he's there and like how he came to be doing
01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:43.460
this job. He says that he had like a substance
01:04:43.460 --> 01:04:46.920
use issue. And Tony says, and they told you they'd
01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:48.900
get you off of it. And he said, they said they'd
01:04:48.900 --> 01:04:54.500
give me more. Lackey shows up, knocks Tony out.
01:04:54.579 --> 01:04:57.989
Tony comes to tied up on a. bed for some reason.
01:04:58.250 --> 01:05:01.929
But like standing. Standing with Maya. It turns
01:05:01.929 --> 01:05:04.929
out that when Tony wrote on the back of that
01:05:04.929 --> 01:05:10.469
name tag, he made calculations that led to extremis
01:05:10.469 --> 01:05:15.550
being able to be used on humans. So Maya is wanting
01:05:15.550 --> 01:05:18.489
Tony to finish the work that he did 13 years
01:05:18.489 --> 01:05:23.250
ago while drunk and finish extremis. She seems
01:05:23.250 --> 01:05:26.280
shocked that he does not remember writing. those
01:05:26.280 --> 01:05:29.619
notes, which I feel like that's on her. Someone
01:05:29.619 --> 01:05:32.099
makes a comment about a big dude falling out
01:05:32.099 --> 01:05:34.460
of the sky with a hammer. A big dude with a hammer
01:05:34.460 --> 01:05:36.880
falling out of the sky. Killian shows up and
01:05:36.880 --> 01:05:40.280
says when Tony ditched him on the rooftop and
01:05:40.280 --> 01:05:45.059
he was alone up there, he got the idea to stay
01:05:45.059 --> 01:05:48.380
anonymous and subtlety went out the door when
01:05:48.380 --> 01:05:50.880
the big guy fell out of the sky with a hammer.
01:05:51.199 --> 01:05:55.769
Referencing Thor. Yeah. He shows Tony. that Pepper
01:05:55.769 --> 01:05:59.190
is being injected with Extremis. So now Tony
01:05:59.190 --> 01:06:03.130
needs to solve Extremis because otherwise it
01:06:03.130 --> 01:06:06.369
could potentially kill Pepper. Maya then threatens
01:06:06.369 --> 01:06:10.210
to kill herself, but then Killian, annoyed, just
01:06:10.210 --> 01:06:13.369
shoots her. What good would that do? Why? Because
01:06:13.369 --> 01:06:16.110
she's the scientist behind it? Yes. Okay. This
01:06:16.110 --> 01:06:20.030
is a quote from Rebecca Hall in an interview
01:06:20.030 --> 01:06:23.130
a few years later. She said, I signed on to do
01:06:23.130 --> 01:06:25.650
something that was a substantial role. She wasn't
01:06:25.650 --> 01:06:27.570
entirely the villain. There have been several
01:06:27.570 --> 01:06:29.750
phases of this but I signed on to do something
01:06:29.750 --> 01:06:32.449
very different to what I ended up doing. Halfway
01:06:32.449 --> 01:06:34.530
through shooting they were basically like what
01:06:34.530 --> 01:06:36.489
would you think if you just got shot out of nowhere?
01:06:36.849 --> 01:06:38.869
I was meant to be in the movie until the end.
01:06:39.070 --> 01:06:41.150
I grappled with them for a while and then I said
01:06:41.150 --> 01:06:42.909
well you have to give me a decent death scene
01:06:42.909 --> 01:06:44.710
and you have to give me one more scene with Iron
01:06:44.710 --> 01:06:47.090
Man which Robert Downey Jr. supported me on.
01:06:47.250 --> 01:06:50.789
So this was another victim of not only Maya Hansen
01:06:50.789 --> 01:06:53.880
being not the ultimate villain as she was was
01:06:53.880 --> 01:06:55.960
originally planned to be, but also just because
01:06:55.960 --> 01:06:57.800
of the chaos of production and everything, they
01:06:57.800 --> 01:06:59.679
were like, what if we just suddenly kill her
01:06:59.679 --> 01:07:02.920
off to have fewer villains in the end? That sucks.
01:07:03.119 --> 01:07:06.019
But also, RDJ just seems like such a great guy.
01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:08.539
Everything I hear about him. Killian leaves Tony
01:07:08.539 --> 01:07:11.199
with a couple of henchmen. This is a funny scene.
01:07:12.119 --> 01:07:14.500
I like these henchmen, even though they're bad.
01:07:14.900 --> 01:07:17.679
They're funny. They were pretty funny. I like
01:07:17.679 --> 01:07:19.739
the ponytail guy immediately knows the distance
01:07:19.739 --> 01:07:23.110
from Tennessee to Miami. And he's like, wow,
01:07:23.289 --> 01:07:27.130
I'm good like that. Harley's sister's Dora watch
01:07:27.130 --> 01:07:30.329
goes off and the henchmen break it. Then Tony
01:07:30.329 --> 01:07:32.190
says, you're going to pay for that. That's my
01:07:32.190 --> 01:07:34.190
friend's sister's watch. It's limited edition.
01:07:34.349 --> 01:07:37.110
Meanwhile, Killian goes to remove Rhodey from
01:07:37.110 --> 01:07:39.889
the suit using extremis heat. Rhodey pops out
01:07:39.889 --> 01:07:42.440
of the suit. Wait, who does? Killian goes to
01:07:42.440 --> 01:07:44.980
remove Rhodey from... Oh, I thought it was Lackey.
01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:47.440
Lackey's also trying to remove him from the scene.
01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:49.780
Yeah, but Killian is the one who does it. Right,
01:07:49.800 --> 01:07:51.780
right, right. Okay. Rhodey pops out, punches
01:07:51.780 --> 01:07:55.219
Lackey, and then Killian stops him with his lava
01:07:55.219 --> 01:07:57.500
monster breath. I mean, this is seriously...
01:07:57.500 --> 01:08:01.800
He is breathing fire. Meanwhile, Rhodey is going
01:08:01.800 --> 01:08:04.019
to be a hero and he's wearing a polo shirt. I'm
01:08:04.019 --> 01:08:07.320
like, what is this movie? And Rhodey just stops
01:08:07.320 --> 01:08:10.119
and he's like, you breathe fire? Yeah, it's just
01:08:10.119 --> 01:08:12.530
so... So weird. It's an appropriate reaction.
01:08:12.610 --> 01:08:15.750
It's so great. Like it should be stupid, but
01:08:15.750 --> 01:08:19.109
it's so fun. After an extended scene with Tony
01:08:19.109 --> 01:08:21.489
threatening the goons, his armor does arrive
01:08:21.489 --> 01:08:24.029
piecemeal. It turns out most of it was stuck
01:08:24.029 --> 01:08:26.409
behind the garage door and Harley has to go let
01:08:26.409 --> 01:08:28.750
it go. Great job, Harley. Harley has to like
01:08:28.750 --> 01:08:32.109
melt a lot to get it out. Tony has a little bit
01:08:32.109 --> 01:08:33.970
of an action scene where he's partially powered
01:08:33.970 --> 01:08:37.630
up with just one gauntlet and one boot from his
01:08:37.630 --> 01:08:39.850
armor. Takes out a bunch of goons. And this is
01:08:39.850 --> 01:08:42.289
one of them. my favorite bits in the movie which
01:08:42.289 --> 01:08:45.149
is the last goon who just gives up and he's like
01:08:45.149 --> 01:08:47.789
honestly i hate working here they are so weird
01:08:47.789 --> 01:08:52.380
they are so weird it's so funny The rest of the
01:08:52.380 --> 01:08:55.119
Mark 42 arrives just in time to see the Iron
01:08:55.119 --> 01:08:59.460
Patriot suit leaving, but Rhodey escapes and
01:08:59.460 --> 01:09:03.859
is not in the suit. Rhodey and Tony meet up and
01:09:03.859 --> 01:09:07.199
Tony says, you've got to meet this person. And
01:09:07.199 --> 01:09:10.760
Rhodey finds out the truth about Trevor Slattery.
01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:14.079
Trevor lets him know a little bit of what he
01:09:14.079 --> 01:09:18.779
knows about the plan and gives the duo his lovely
01:09:18.779 --> 01:09:23.159
speedboat. In the earlier scene where the two
01:09:23.159 --> 01:09:25.819
henchmen are kind of bantering with Tony a little
01:09:25.819 --> 01:09:28.319
bit, I was like, is this the buddy cop element?
01:09:28.420 --> 01:09:31.500
Because we hadn't really seen that yet. But no,
01:09:31.539 --> 01:09:33.399
it's Tony and Rhodey. Yeah. They're the buddy
01:09:33.399 --> 01:09:37.060
cops. 100%. Tony calls the vice president, Vice
01:09:37.060 --> 01:09:40.960
President Miguel Ferrerer. Yep. And... Does he
01:09:40.960 --> 01:09:43.880
have a name? To warn him, he probably does. In
01:09:43.880 --> 01:09:47.420
the shock, to end all shocks, Miguel Ferrer is
01:09:47.420 --> 01:09:50.199
a bad guy. That guy has the face of an angel.
01:09:50.439 --> 01:09:54.659
Playing a bad guy? I know. Totally out of character
01:09:54.659 --> 01:09:58.560
for him. But no, he's in on it. He's complicit.
01:09:58.760 --> 01:10:00.800
I remember seeing the movie the first time and
01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:02.600
thinking, oh, it's nice to see Miguel Ferrer
01:10:02.600 --> 01:10:05.220
play not a bad guy for a minute. But at least
01:10:05.220 --> 01:10:07.800
he has a reason for it. He does have a reason
01:10:07.800 --> 01:10:10.779
for it. His daughter is disabled and is missing
01:10:10.779 --> 01:10:13.479
a limb. his daughter, played by baby Jenna Ortega.
01:10:13.560 --> 01:10:15.689
Oh, really? I didn't recognize her. Yeah, baby
01:10:15.689 --> 01:10:17.890
Jenny Ortega. She actually, apparently she had
01:10:17.890 --> 01:10:20.010
lines that were cut in the hour of material.
01:10:20.010 --> 01:10:22.270
They cut all of the women, all of the female
01:10:22.270 --> 01:10:27.010
characters gone, except for Pepper. But I don't
01:10:27.010 --> 01:10:28.949
know. I mean, I'm like, it's really - I do say
01:10:28.949 --> 01:10:30.909
the movie does technically pass Bechdel because
01:10:30.909 --> 01:10:33.470
there are scenes with Maya and Pepper talking
01:10:33.470 --> 01:10:35.489
and they're talking about - Science. Science
01:10:35.489 --> 01:10:38.329
and not necessarily, you know, there's a lot
01:10:38.329 --> 01:10:40.890
of conversation about the Mandarin and Tony in
01:10:40.890 --> 01:10:42.789
there, but they're also talking about science
01:10:42.789 --> 01:10:45.609
and stuff. I think it's not bad. It's... Sad
01:10:45.609 --> 01:10:48.350
that his daughter is like missing a limb. But
01:10:48.350 --> 01:10:51.229
like, is it really worth exploding a bunch of
01:10:51.229 --> 01:10:53.770
people? I just don't know. And the president.
01:10:54.010 --> 01:10:56.130
And the president executing the president. Well,
01:10:56.130 --> 01:10:58.430
he also gets to be president. So that's probably
01:10:58.430 --> 01:11:01.229
a little bit of self -motivation there. Not to
01:11:01.229 --> 01:11:07.289
cast aspersions on Miguel Ferrer. I know. I don't
01:11:07.289 --> 01:11:08.609
know. I just, I think it's a little. Evil vice
01:11:08.609 --> 01:11:12.210
president. So lackey boards Air Force One with
01:11:12.210 --> 01:11:14.729
the president and a bunch of other people. Lackey
01:11:14.729 --> 01:11:19.489
takes out a bunch of dudes on Air Force One and
01:11:19.489 --> 01:11:23.270
locks everyone else behind a door, sends the
01:11:23.270 --> 01:11:26.729
president off in the Iron Patriot suit and is
01:11:26.729 --> 01:11:31.529
about to just land the plane. But Tony crashes
01:11:31.529 --> 01:11:34.850
into Air Force One. They fight and Tony then
01:11:34.850 --> 01:11:38.670
uses a full power repulsor blast to blow a giant
01:11:38.670 --> 01:11:41.770
hole in Lackey's chest, which does ultimately
01:11:41.770 --> 01:11:45.689
kill him. That works. That works on Lava Monsters.
01:11:45.850 --> 01:11:49.529
But before that, Lackey then set off a bomb that
01:11:49.529 --> 01:11:53.050
blew most of the passengers out in the sky. And
01:11:53.050 --> 01:11:56.369
that becomes one of the signature action sequences
01:11:56.369 --> 01:12:00.109
of the movie, which is Tony rescuing the Air
01:12:00.109 --> 01:12:03.409
Force One passengers falling. This was a scene.
01:12:03.489 --> 01:12:05.210
This was actually done. They had thought about
01:12:05.210 --> 01:12:08.569
doing it via blue screen and CGI and everything.
01:12:08.710 --> 01:12:11.329
But apparently someone working on the movie knew
01:12:11.329 --> 01:12:15.680
the Red Bull sky. skydiving team so these were
01:12:15.680 --> 01:12:18.760
experienced skydivers and they did this stunt
01:12:18.760 --> 01:12:21.119
for real they did have to do they had to do some
01:12:21.119 --> 01:12:23.880
cgi stuff so apparently because they shot it
01:12:23.880 --> 01:12:26.140
over i think 12 days or something like that so
01:12:26.140 --> 01:12:28.199
they were just falling out of a plane for 12
01:12:28.199 --> 01:12:30.399
days straight so they had to make the weather
01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:33.180
consistent they had to repaint the sky they had
01:12:33.180 --> 01:12:35.659
to change the plane that dropped them into air
01:12:35.659 --> 01:12:38.279
force one they had to paint iron man onto the
01:12:38.279 --> 01:12:40.739
scene but they had they had a skydiver who was
01:12:40.739 --> 01:12:43.979
basically a stunt iron man Nice. But yeah, so.
01:12:44.100 --> 01:12:46.140
I loved this scene. And they had an extra diver
01:12:46.140 --> 01:12:48.100
who was the cameraman. But it was, I mean, it
01:12:48.100 --> 01:12:50.600
looks great. It does. Because it's actual stunt
01:12:50.600 --> 01:12:53.960
diving. It's not just CGI tomfoolery. That's
01:12:53.960 --> 01:12:54.939
pretty cool. There's a lot of them. There's,
01:12:54.939 --> 01:12:57.840
I think, 13, we find out. We only learn one of
01:12:57.840 --> 01:13:00.279
their names, but it is excellent Heather representation.
01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:03.979
The one person we meet is Heather. Yeah, Heather
01:13:03.979 --> 01:13:07.569
and Chunky Monkey. I was very tense during this
01:13:07.569 --> 01:13:09.649
scene. And I was literally tearing up at the
01:13:09.649 --> 01:13:12.430
end when he saves them all. He saves them all.
01:13:12.829 --> 01:13:17.109
Were we supposed to know that he was remotely
01:13:17.109 --> 01:13:20.090
controlling the suit? No, because at the very
01:13:20.090 --> 01:13:23.189
end, then he saves all of them, drops them into
01:13:23.189 --> 01:13:25.569
the ocean. They're all celebrating. It's a great
01:13:25.569 --> 01:13:28.609
moment. I'm crying. I'm cheering. The theme music
01:13:28.609 --> 01:13:30.270
is blaring. By the way, I want to take a moment.
01:13:30.350 --> 01:13:32.710
It's sad that this is the last Iron Man movie.
01:13:32.909 --> 01:13:35.829
Spoiler alert. This is the last. Iron Man standalone
01:13:35.829 --> 01:13:37.810
movie. And in fact, at this point, I think Robert
01:13:37.810 --> 01:13:40.149
Downey Jr.'s contract was up. So there were questions
01:13:40.149 --> 01:13:42.529
about whether or not he would actually even return
01:13:42.529 --> 01:13:45.989
to the Marvel universe. But Iron Man finally
01:13:45.989 --> 01:13:49.170
got theme music courtesy Brian Tyler, who composed
01:13:49.170 --> 01:13:52.329
this movie. And I really like the Iron Man theme.
01:13:52.649 --> 01:13:55.750
It's a really good theme music and it's hummable.
01:13:55.970 --> 01:13:58.430
He finally gets Thor and Captain America both
01:13:58.430 --> 01:14:02.029
also have hummable theme music. And Iron Man
01:14:02.029 --> 01:14:04.010
finally gets his, even though it's on his third.
01:14:04.109 --> 01:14:07.510
and last solo movie but yeah the music is blaring
01:14:07.510 --> 01:14:10.029
and everything is great and then iron man flies
01:14:10.029 --> 01:14:12.970
right into a truck and the armor gets obliterated
01:14:12.970 --> 01:14:17.460
and i screamed you screamed audibly It's very
01:14:17.460 --> 01:14:19.979
funny. And it turns out he was remote controlling
01:14:19.979 --> 01:14:23.199
the suit. I needed a moment to collect myself
01:14:23.199 --> 01:14:25.460
after all of this. I think I said to you, I just
01:14:25.460 --> 01:14:27.579
felt like I was on an emotional roller coaster.
01:14:27.699 --> 01:14:30.439
Because they were on the very nice speedboat
01:14:30.439 --> 01:14:35.670
headed to the oil rig. Yep. I did also say because
01:14:35.670 --> 01:14:38.750
he saves all of the people, but then he deposits
01:14:38.750 --> 01:14:40.770
them into the water. And I'm like, well, I hope
01:14:40.770 --> 01:14:43.630
they can all swim or that was for nothing. Saved
01:14:43.630 --> 01:14:46.109
from falling out of a plane only to drown. You
01:14:46.109 --> 01:14:47.970
see them all sticking their heads out of the
01:14:47.970 --> 01:14:49.390
water. Yeah, they're waving, they're cheering,
01:14:49.689 --> 01:14:53.689
they're happy. So on the oil rig, Pepper is there
01:14:53.689 --> 01:14:56.829
looking very fit. I guess goop is good for abs.
01:14:57.149 --> 01:14:59.989
Yeah. She finishes the extremist treatment and
01:14:59.989 --> 01:15:03.170
Killian intends to assassinate the president.
01:15:04.180 --> 01:15:08.520
alive. Yeah. So Miguel Ferrer can take over and
01:15:08.520 --> 01:15:11.060
he can have a political patron who's even more
01:15:11.060 --> 01:15:13.880
powerful than a fake terrorist. This is when
01:15:13.880 --> 01:15:16.279
Tony and Rhodey have their buddy cop moment invading
01:15:16.279 --> 01:15:19.380
the oil rig. I do like that Tony is a super genius,
01:15:19.439 --> 01:15:21.859
but he is useless in a gunfight. He's trying
01:15:21.859 --> 01:15:24.720
to shoot. Is he trying to shoot the light? Yeah.
01:15:24.760 --> 01:15:26.260
Because he says you can't hit a bulb at this
01:15:26.260 --> 01:15:28.699
distance. And then Rhodey shoots the bulb. Just
01:15:28.699 --> 01:15:31.689
hits it with one shot. Yeah, like one shot. And
01:15:31.689 --> 01:15:33.670
then just gives him a look like, hmm. He's also
01:15:33.670 --> 01:15:36.609
he's bugging Rhodey for an extra magazine, even
01:15:36.609 --> 01:15:39.010
though he's like, he's like, it doesn't work
01:15:39.010 --> 01:15:40.489
like that. You have like five. Just give me more.
01:15:41.010 --> 01:15:42.729
Sometimes he's like a child, but it's pretty
01:15:42.729 --> 01:15:45.810
funny. Tony initiates the house party protocol.
01:15:45.970 --> 01:15:48.850
And this is when a bunch of Iron Man suits fly
01:15:48.850 --> 01:15:51.949
in, piloted by Jarvis. Merry Christmas, buddy.
01:15:52.130 --> 01:15:54.840
All of the different suits. Start taking out
01:15:54.840 --> 01:15:56.680
extremist soldiers. And now we have the third
01:15:56.680 --> 01:15:59.159
act action set piece. This is a really great
01:15:59.159 --> 01:16:02.359
scene. A lot of this was ruined by trailers,
01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:04.760
unfortunately. I know you can't have an action
01:16:04.760 --> 01:16:06.460
scene like this and not have it in the trailers,
01:16:06.520 --> 01:16:09.100
but it would have been really fun to go in unspoiled
01:16:09.100 --> 01:16:10.800
like you were and not know that we were going
01:16:10.800 --> 01:16:13.619
to see all of these crazy Iron Man suits in action.
01:16:13.899 --> 01:16:16.460
Tony finds Pepper, but Killian shows up and separates
01:16:16.460 --> 01:16:18.880
them. Rhodey rescues the president, gets his
01:16:18.880 --> 01:16:21.720
suit back, and then takes the president away.
01:16:21.819 --> 01:16:24.710
So Rhodey is now... out of the battle. During
01:16:24.710 --> 01:16:27.569
the battle, Pepper falls, presumably to her fiery
01:16:27.569 --> 01:16:29.869
death. Did you think that she was actually dead?
01:16:29.989 --> 01:16:33.789
Given the... weird survivability of people who
01:16:33.789 --> 01:16:35.970
have extremists. Yeah, I'm like, I don't know.
01:16:36.069 --> 01:16:38.430
The lava monsters are basically immortal. So
01:16:38.430 --> 01:16:42.489
she's part lava monster or full now. And it just
01:16:42.489 --> 01:16:45.550
also felt kind of anticlimactic to me. Also,
01:16:45.630 --> 01:16:47.970
apparently, even though, you know, you can fall
01:16:47.970 --> 01:16:50.850
hundreds of feet and be burned alive, your hair
01:16:50.850 --> 01:16:52.850
grows back perfectly to the length that it was
01:16:52.850 --> 01:16:55.350
and in the ponytail that it was into. It's a
01:16:55.350 --> 01:16:58.109
magical drug, this extremist. Tony fights Killian
01:16:58.109 --> 01:17:00.090
in a rage. I like the scene when he's jumping
01:17:00.090 --> 01:17:02.319
in and out of suits. So it's a very it is a very
01:17:02.319 --> 01:17:04.739
well staged action sequence. It's easy to follow
01:17:04.739 --> 01:17:07.819
and it's a lot of fun. The Mark 42 finally comes
01:17:07.819 --> 01:17:10.159
in at the end, falls apart just before making
01:17:10.159 --> 01:17:13.380
it to Tony. Killian has his little villain speech
01:17:13.380 --> 01:17:18.159
and says that Pepper was almost perfect. And
01:17:18.159 --> 01:17:20.380
Tony's like, well, you got some things right,
01:17:20.539 --> 01:17:24.119
but she was already perfect and throws the Mark
01:17:24.119 --> 01:17:27.619
42 on to Killian and then blows it up. Yeah,
01:17:27.640 --> 01:17:29.739
that was pretty cool. I liked that. I do have
01:17:29.739 --> 01:17:32.619
to say. The fight scene is not bad. It's not
01:17:32.619 --> 01:17:34.920
hard to understand, as you said. But I'm going
01:17:34.920 --> 01:17:36.800
to go on a little tiny tangent. You have seen
01:17:36.800 --> 01:17:39.079
the episode of Bob's Burgers where they do the
01:17:39.079 --> 01:17:42.760
diehard working girl musical mashup. And there's
01:17:42.760 --> 01:17:45.260
a song, fight scene, fight scene, we're gonna
01:17:45.260 --> 01:17:47.619
have a fight scene. I've realized that's in my
01:17:47.619 --> 01:17:49.600
head whenever there is a fight scene happening
01:17:49.600 --> 01:17:52.260
in any movie. Because, you know, they're not
01:17:52.260 --> 01:17:54.260
my favorite. And so I'm just kind of singing
01:17:54.260 --> 01:17:56.760
that to myself. Fight scene, fight scene, we're
01:17:56.760 --> 01:17:59.479
gonna have a fight scene. It turns out killing.
01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:03.399
survived regenerates yelling like a full -on
01:18:03.399 --> 01:18:07.079
villain at tony but then pepper saves the day
01:18:07.079 --> 01:18:09.100
hits him in the face with a giant metal pipe
01:18:09.100 --> 01:18:12.680
and saves tony killian is still around but pepper
01:18:12.680 --> 01:18:17.039
is accidentally targeted by a suit that's targeting
01:18:17.039 --> 01:18:21.500
extremis heat signatures so she punches through
01:18:21.500 --> 01:18:24.819
the suit grabs a missile kicks it into killian
01:18:24.819 --> 01:18:29.789
and blows him up ending aldrich killian and saying,
01:18:30.010 --> 01:18:32.550
oh my God, that was really violent. Yeah, that
01:18:32.550 --> 01:18:35.510
was cute. I like that. You know, I don't know
01:18:35.510 --> 01:18:38.829
why people don't like, I guess Gwyneth Paltrow
01:18:38.829 --> 01:18:41.670
as a person, you know. She's divisive. She's
01:18:41.670 --> 01:18:44.010
divisive because her stuff that she sells to
01:18:44.010 --> 01:18:48.369
rich white ladies is ridiculous and overpriced.
01:18:48.369 --> 01:18:51.729
And a lot of it is woo woo and not really helpful.
01:18:51.989 --> 01:18:55.550
But you know what? Let a girl make some money.
01:18:56.670 --> 01:18:59.470
Even though she's. already rich in hollywood
01:18:59.470 --> 01:19:02.670
legacy whatever yeah i yeah and i think it's
01:19:02.670 --> 01:19:05.949
a little bit more nuanced than that But by all
01:19:05.949 --> 01:19:08.909
accounts, she is a very nice person. And she's
01:19:08.909 --> 01:19:12.649
really charming as Pepper. And she has, again,
01:19:12.869 --> 01:19:16.550
I feel like probably the most realistic reactions
01:19:16.550 --> 01:19:19.409
to things in the Marvel universe. Yeah, that's
01:19:19.409 --> 01:19:22.170
fair. But I thought that moment was fun. So Tony
01:19:22.170 --> 01:19:25.090
says that he can probably crack Extremis since
01:19:25.090 --> 01:19:27.609
he almost got it when he was drunk 13 years ago.
01:19:27.789 --> 01:19:31.109
Sorry, Maya, you're just not quite as smart as
01:19:31.109 --> 01:19:35.739
the white man in the center of the story. Isn't
01:19:35.739 --> 01:19:38.359
that always the way? We haven't really touched
01:19:38.359 --> 01:19:41.039
on Tony referring to himself as a mechanic. He
01:19:41.039 --> 01:19:43.140
does that several times with Harley. That's what
01:19:43.140 --> 01:19:45.420
he says before he tells him his name, even though
01:19:45.420 --> 01:19:47.640
Harley clearly knows who he is. And then later,
01:19:47.699 --> 01:19:49.460
Harley's like, well, you said you're a mechanic.
01:19:49.600 --> 01:19:52.180
So build something because he, you know, needs
01:19:52.180 --> 01:19:54.640
to be fighting back or whatever. But anyway,
01:19:54.739 --> 01:19:57.300
it's like at the end here, I really hearken back
01:19:57.300 --> 01:19:59.539
to that to be like, he fixes things. He's a mechanic.
01:19:59.640 --> 01:20:01.220
And that's what he's going to do for Pepper.
01:20:01.439 --> 01:20:03.680
Yeah, he didn't come up with extremists. So that
01:20:03.680 --> 01:20:06.199
he could tinker with the formula and he can make
01:20:06.199 --> 01:20:09.119
it stable or remove it, whatever he does to Pepper.
01:20:09.319 --> 01:20:12.960
Tony initiates the clean slate protocol, blowing
01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:15.960
all his suits up in a Christmas fireworks display,
01:20:16.399 --> 01:20:19.239
ending the movie in a fun way. We have some closing
01:20:19.239 --> 01:20:23.380
narration. The vice president is arrested because
01:20:23.380 --> 01:20:26.640
in the Marvel Universe, powerful people actually
01:20:26.640 --> 01:20:31.840
face consequences for their crimes. But Trevor
01:20:31.840 --> 01:20:33.850
is also arrested. Trevor is also arrested. Which
01:20:33.850 --> 01:20:37.649
makes sense, but I'm also like, oh God, he doesn't
01:20:37.649 --> 01:20:39.789
even know anything. But he has fans. He does
01:20:39.789 --> 01:20:42.069
have fans. He's really funny in this scene where
01:20:42.069 --> 01:20:44.109
he's getting arrested because he sees all the
01:20:44.109 --> 01:20:46.810
people watching and he's like, oh, oh. Pepper
01:20:46.810 --> 01:20:50.430
got her extremis removed and Tony finally has
01:20:50.430 --> 01:20:54.029
his surgery, courtesy the Chinese movie -goating
01:20:54.029 --> 01:20:57.630
audiences of Dr. Wu, to remove the shrapnel from
01:20:57.630 --> 01:21:01.909
his chest finally and makes it into a necklace.
01:21:02.029 --> 01:21:05.449
for Pepper. Happy comes to and starts his recovery
01:21:05.449 --> 01:21:09.050
and watches Downton Abbey. You know, the first
01:21:09.050 --> 01:21:10.869
time I saw this movie, I thought he was kind
01:21:10.869 --> 01:21:13.869
of checking out the nurse and sort of like looking
01:21:13.869 --> 01:21:16.090
at the nurse. But now I realize, no, he was just
01:21:16.090 --> 01:21:18.109
making sure that the nurse was wearing her badge.
01:21:19.010 --> 01:21:21.649
Oh, I definitely thought he was checking her
01:21:21.649 --> 01:21:24.390
out. I put keep it in your pants, Happy. But
01:21:24.390 --> 01:21:26.270
that makes more sense. I believe he's, yeah,
01:21:26.350 --> 01:21:28.630
he's just making sure that the nurse is wearing
01:21:28.630 --> 01:21:32.880
her badge. Harley comes home to a decked out
01:21:32.880 --> 01:21:36.539
garage, courtesy Tony Stark and some Verizon
01:21:36.539 --> 01:21:39.760
Fios product placement. But he signs the note,
01:21:39.840 --> 01:21:41.579
the mechanic. He signs the note, the mechanic.
01:21:41.779 --> 01:21:44.720
Tony tosses the arc reactor that was in his chest
01:21:44.720 --> 01:21:47.640
into the ocean over the wreckage of his Malibu
01:21:47.640 --> 01:21:51.500
mansion and drives off in his electric Audi.
01:21:51.640 --> 01:21:54.159
I love that car, by the way. Oh, I didn't notice
01:21:54.159 --> 01:21:58.060
it. Gorgeous car with dummy in tow. He fished
01:21:58.060 --> 01:22:01.279
dummy out of the ocean. I was literally like,
01:22:01.399 --> 01:22:05.079
so is he not Iron Man anymore? Because the shrapnels
01:22:05.079 --> 01:22:07.100
removed and he did the whole thing. And then
01:22:07.100 --> 01:22:09.539
he says. The last line of the movie. I'm still
01:22:09.539 --> 01:22:11.600
Iron Man. I was like, oh, well, thanks for answering
01:22:11.600 --> 01:22:15.039
that question. Closes the movie with I am Iron
01:22:15.039 --> 01:22:19.649
Man as a nice bit of circularity to. close the
01:22:19.649 --> 01:22:23.670
trilogy. And then we have the, I love the, love
01:22:23.670 --> 01:22:26.550
the end credits. I do too. And I'm not like a
01:22:26.550 --> 01:22:29.869
credits person. Like unless they're really noticeable,
01:22:30.170 --> 01:22:34.029
I'm not really the type of person that appreciates
01:22:34.029 --> 01:22:38.029
a credit sequence. But this was really cool.
01:22:38.189 --> 01:22:40.909
These credits are very well done. It's a jazzy
01:22:40.909 --> 01:22:46.100
version of his theme song. And it's jazzy and
01:22:46.100 --> 01:22:51.720
upbeat and it's cut like. a action TV show from
01:22:51.720 --> 01:22:54.960
the 70s or 80s. And that's what they were doing.
01:22:55.119 --> 01:22:58.779
And it's using a bunch of clips, not just from
01:22:58.779 --> 01:23:00.659
the movie that we just watched, but also from
01:23:00.659 --> 01:23:02.600
the first two movies. Some of them carefully
01:23:02.600 --> 01:23:05.420
cut so they didn't have to give Jeff Bridges
01:23:05.420 --> 01:23:10.000
or Mickey Rourke extra money. But yeah, there's
01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:11.979
footage in there from all three Iron Man movies.
01:23:12.180 --> 01:23:15.600
And it's fun. It's one of my favorite credit
01:23:15.600 --> 01:23:19.500
sequences of the Marvel movies. It's a lot of
01:23:19.500 --> 01:23:22.619
fun. There's no mid -credits scene in this movie,
01:23:22.739 --> 01:23:27.399
but there is a post -credits scene. And that's
01:23:27.399 --> 01:23:30.479
when we find out that the voiceover narration
01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:35.779
was him telling the story to someone else. And
01:23:35.779 --> 01:23:40.420
the camera pans over and it's Bruce Banner. Mark
01:23:40.420 --> 01:23:44.640
Ruffalo as Bruce Banner. It turns out that Tony
01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:46.640
was telling the whole story to Bruce Banner and
01:23:46.640 --> 01:23:50.479
Bruce Banner fell asleep. Relatable. At the beginning.
01:23:50.539 --> 01:23:53.319
Yeah, he's like, where did I lose you? Elevator
01:23:53.319 --> 01:23:57.739
in Switzerland. That's the first scene. And I
01:23:57.739 --> 01:23:59.840
love the nice little bit where he's like, he's
01:23:59.840 --> 01:24:01.600
like, I'm not that kind of doctor. And he's like,
01:24:01.640 --> 01:24:03.220
well, come on, you're smart. And he's like, I
01:24:03.220 --> 01:24:05.960
don't have the temperament. No, because he says,
01:24:06.020 --> 01:24:08.319
I don't have that. And Tony says, what, the time?
01:24:08.640 --> 01:24:13.609
I don't have the temperament. really good yeah
01:24:13.609 --> 01:24:16.010
it's a lot of fun so this is a great this is
01:24:16.010 --> 01:24:19.149
this is good This is top tier Marvel. Again,
01:24:19.270 --> 01:24:22.430
like the Avengers, this is why I love these movies
01:24:22.430 --> 01:24:25.430
so much. Because when they work really well,
01:24:25.609 --> 01:24:29.630
you have these really fun characters and a movie
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that tells a fun story. And it fits as a small
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piece that works really great. But then you have
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this broader whole that's almost like a TV show
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of all these movies that fit together to tell
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this really big overarching story. And it's just,
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it's great. But yeah, this is top tier Marvel.
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I'm glad you enjoyed it. I loved it. I really
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did. I think it's funny that this is probably
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your favorite movie that we've watched for the
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podcast because we've watched some good ones.
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Well, it's definitely my favorite Marvel movie.
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I mean, it's probably up there of favorite movies
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that we've watched for the podcast. Would you
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rank it above or below The Nice Guys? I would
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probably still rank it below The Nice Guys because
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Ryan Gosling. I mean, you know, he's so funny
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in that movie that I like. It would be hard to
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topple that from the throne of my favorites that
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I loved the nice guys so much. But this would
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be up there. So, I mean, I guess I'm a Shane
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Black stan. No, I'm not really because I don't
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think I've... I mean, I do like... Wait, I do
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like Kiss Kiss Bang Bang as well. So I love a
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romp and he's a romp factory. So anyway, I loved
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this movie. What's next in Marvel? What's next
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in Marvel is Thor The Dark World. So I know you're
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not going to tell me anything about it, and you
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may not even answer this question, but how should
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I temper my expectations? How much do I need
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to lower them? I will say that Thor The Dark
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World is not nearly as good as Iron Man 3. Okay.
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It's not top tier Marvel. All right. All right.
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Good to know. All right. Well, I mean, I really
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don't know what to make of that. So we'll just
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have to deal with that when we get to it. We'll
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deal with that when we get to it. But for now,
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I'm Dan. I'm Heather. And thanks for listening.
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This has been Blind Spots and Second Thoughts.