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[SPEAKER_00]: Mason has great command to the offense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of you just appear on the field game day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's very experienced.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's strong personality in the locker room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really like this command.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just hearing the offense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been through a number of systems.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been asked to do things differently for how we believe in the quarterback position as played.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's done an extra job.
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[SPEAKER_02]: the resting CB.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back to the snap count show on Big Place Boys Network.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're presented by FanDoo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm your host, Ray Essex.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is your quarterback in mine, Mr. Charlie Batch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to our pregame show CB those comments post McCarthy came after I guess he announced that Mason is no longer playing in this preseason game and an error Roger said now this will be the will Howard and Drew Aller show CB What do you have to say about that that's kind of it's interesting in the second preseason game that Mason is already proven enough at this point where coaches don't need to see anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, that's good for you on one sense, you know, but so it can be a blessing on one side, but also it can be a curse on the other only because if this young guy will Howard goes out and performs and he's lights out throughout now opens up the conversation on whether or not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's ready to be the back of quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if that's the case, then there's a chance that, you know, maybe you're pushing Mason out the door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's done enough to make this roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no question about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a matter of whether or not these young guys are able to show enough on tape that it now convinces Mike McCarthy to open up his mindset as a relates to what he's looking to do on the quarterback side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So very important game here for these young quarterbacks as we prepare for tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Which brings me to my questions for you too, CBI.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's still too early to tell obviously, but wanna know what you think, what your experience up to this point and being around the franchise as much as you are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You get to sense that because this decision was made that Mason has secured the backup job, that's my first question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if so, number two, I guess one A1B, if he has,
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[SPEAKER_02]: If both of these quarterbacks fall out, I don't think you just need either one onto the practice squad, especially not Aller being a rookie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What is the likelihood that both quarterbacks are both get, both of those quarterbacks make the team make the 53 and we carry four quarterbacks on the roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To me, it's always been 0% and the reason why I say that it because yes, you may be able to keep them on the very first week leading up to the game and hopes it may be trading somebody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't want nobody to steal these young quarterbacks off of your roster, but I think that will change if you get closer to the game and the only reason why I say to because it's hard to develop young quarterbacks when the season is unfolded.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If he's not your number two quarterback, why because the starter takes all the reps, the backup now is playing the scouting quarterbacks, still knowing you're assignment as the backup quarterback, and then the 13 quarterback gets whatever is left that the backup quarterback may not necessarily need.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when you're looking from a fourth quarterback perspective, that means there's a strong chance throughout the course of a workweek that he may never get any reps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So how are you truly going to prepare that quarterback to do it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just my experience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All I know is, yes, McCarthy is comfortable with this four quarterbacks, but he has yet to say that Mason has secured the back of job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not worried about him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's on the roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He now has to see these young guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those words didn't come out of his mouth, so because of that, there still is opportunity for a will Howard to take a job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In a reason why I say this trade, because 20 some years ago, my rookie year, when I was in Detroit Scott Mitchell, he was just starting quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jim Miller was the backup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was drafted, but I was running with the threes in the second round.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So as I was getting ready to prepare, the coaching staff seen on tape within those pre-season games to say Charlie is ready as a rookie to be the backup and ultimately Jim Miller was released from the Lions and I was the backup and I was playing by week three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why I look at it
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you look at just Mike McCarthy's coaching record, he has not as a head coach kept four quarterbacks on the roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Could it change this year?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Slim chance, but just my personal opinion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that that keep you four quarterbacks is going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just a nominal effect from keeping four quarterbacks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you mentioned, you can't develop both young quarterbacks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If neither one of them is the backup quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because nobody's missing out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody is definitely missing out on restaurant or because there's only so much you can do only so much time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You haven't only so many reps, you can do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Debbie up amongst the quarterbacks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Aaron is taking the majority of the reps throughout the week no matter what.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And just from a roster construction standpoint,
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[SPEAKER_02]: That has a domino effect on who you could keep at other positions, and obviously we need depth at so many other positions, which leads us to the fact of, yes, this is a big gain for the quarterbacks, but it's a big gain for so many other position groups out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously the O line, as we mentioned, struggled a little bit to start, but did enough to the tune that we score 28 points.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so they have some stuff to prove.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously the safety and the secondary got
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[SPEAKER_02]: Really back up that performance that they did last week because mean you both were high on how well they tackled as a group and then we got some new people added to the mix We got in land and robbers back in how is that gonna look from a line-backer rotation standpoint So when we go into our things to watch C. B.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously the first thing that was mentioned that we talked about is Your first one is quarterback play go ahead and talk more about that
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I want to piggyback just off what you say when you talk about roster configuration, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's assume that Mike McCarthy keeps four quarterbacks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that means for 17 straight weeks in the regular season, Mike McCarthy is going to inactivate three spots.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And those are your two spots essentially.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're 13 quarterback and you're 14 quarterback that you know they are not able to play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now you use it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when you're trying to figure out which 47 that are going to be available, you know already now injuries play a factor into it is very tough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why that's another thing as a relates to why it's tough to keep for quarterback because you know too is on the inactive list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: every single week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's going to be a challenge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, that's one thing on the roster configuration.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure we'll get to that over the next week as we prepare and start talking about what the final roster looks like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But when we look at where we are with the quarterback play here, this is Will Howard in pole position.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now they want to see him at 19 plays last week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He did a very nice job of running the offense, especially the two minute juror right before the have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, he's going to see if you can start and keep that play up for the entire first half.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's going to be that evaluation piece and of course he'll give way to Drew Aller on the other side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure both of them will have a two minute opportunity to see how they progress from week one to week two because both of these quarterback did a very nice job as well in that game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is important.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll Howard understands.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He talked about how important this game is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he talked about being the next game on the importance and he's not showing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: any nervousness as he's preparing for this game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said, I've been, I think this is what I expected to be a potential starting quarterback in this league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'd be for the regular season, but he is starting tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the guys tasked with protecting those guys to online, I am looking not at just their play, but how coach, rotation, how coach camping brings in the guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I'm assuming that the same starting line up is going
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that is, I would see Troy at left tackle, Mason at left guard, Zack at the center, spins at right guard and Dylan Cook at right tackle, specifically looking at Dylan Cook and how quick Roderick Jones gets into the game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He had, I think, the better game out of all the tackles last week, and I think he's gonna get a lot more opportunities to prove if he should be that swing guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would say for the Steelers, and as I mentioned,
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[SPEAKER_02]: because there are some guys going down in camp already.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There are always a need for offensive tackles in this NFL, especially when trading camp gets done.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's always some guys banged up and whatnot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so looking at how they rotate up front, how quick Roger gets in, what Jennings Dunker does after our great performance last week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: can he piggyback on that and put two together and prove to these coaches that he's ready to take it to the next level and see who comes in first as the backup center and as mentioned, Brock Hoffman came in and I was surprised that he got back up center rows.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did not know that was in his record twa, but now that he's added that to his belt, he's become more valuable to this team and now they have people buying photos for that spot as the backup
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh, swing guy that usually when you only hear seven guys, you have the starting five this wing tackle and you had a guy a backup center and then a guy that can play both guards and then a third center who can snap as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm looking at how they come in and how they rotate and what positions they come in and play when they do getting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's one of the most important position groups when you talk about position flexibility because you have to be able to play dual roles, especially when you
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[SPEAKER_01]: offensive lineman that brings value.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why it's important on the rotation on what you're talking about, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Next CB, the landing robber is back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: 50 is back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You said he got his number 50 back, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: He took your time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even though Jamie Davis said one heck of a game last week, he got it back and he calls the ruckus this first day back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What did he say?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know the tempo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So all you know, one's feet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so he started causing him a him his first day in practice and they had fights.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what I wanted to see a little bit of.
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[SPEAKER_02]: had it to that practice and he brought that back in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see how they're going to use him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I know Coach McCarthy and that and that presser you mentioned and later on that this is going to be a game for young people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the vibe that I'm getting, a game for the young folks to showcase their ability.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that probably means Atlanta Roberts probably isn't going to get a whole lot of reps.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He knows the system already.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He is familiar with where he's supposed to be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's the quote that Coach Tommy used to say?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd rather say whoa, then sick him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You probably want to say whoa on a land in robbers because he don't want him to get too banged up or too nicked up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is year 10 for him and the league already.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I am happy to see him back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see how he's used.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's fair because anytime you bring a veteran guy this late into training camp essentially close to the regular season, you're just strong chance he's going to make this roster and people who played with him before in this roster know how he's capable of no to speed that he played with them practice as a veteran guy you could walk in and say, man, it's practice the lame and about the live in this thing up with fresh right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In that got the tempo going, but again, if you're deep in supporting the Patrick Graham, you're saying to yourself, this is why he's on this roster right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My experience that I've had with him last year in Las Vegas, the experience that he had with the Patriots prior to coming to the Steelers, where he's one multiple multi-superboles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he knows how to play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He plays out a high level and he brings stability into that linebacker group.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that is one thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't expect to see much from him in this preseason game, but again,
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[SPEAKER_01]: As he is now ramping up and getting his legs back, this is going to be a great addition for this defense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was speaking on a linebiker side, that now gets me to the safeties, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: At safeties, these days, that thought they had all played a really good game last week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were able to keep everything in front, a couple of passes that were deep, they were able to defend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was really good to see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The one thing I love is the fact that they were coming out of the middle of the field and they were wanted to put their head at hot and the pat,
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[SPEAKER_01]: The one person who did that surprise me is the young gun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about Robert Spirits Jr.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Jennings, this guy may play after play, the seven-round pick out of Oklahoma.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that made me caught, you know, caught a lot of people off guard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't expect that right away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He now needs to build on-tag onto that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We know who the starters are going to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We know it's going to be brister.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We know it's going to be Ellie, but again, what does the next phase of talent looks like on this team?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, when you have Sebastian Castro, he was drafted last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had a nice game, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: Without Jalen Ramsey in the game because we true still to this day have no idea what position He is going to play so that opens the door for the next group of guys And that's what you want to see here and I want to see those guys and I want to see them continue to elevate their play in the same manner that they did I coming out of week one
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the position groups that we were kind of down on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There were a lot of positives out of the last week's game, but the one thing that we came out of and said, we need to work on this is the running game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, we thought Lou Nichols did play well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I expect to see more of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He has proven that in the preseason, he has capable of totalling that rock and doing it well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The main guy I am looking at.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Caleb Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was asked about Coach McCarthy was asked about him and his lack of touch is last week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He said it was just a flow of the game and didn't quite know if it was the the right game plan for a high carry situation for Caleb Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so he's saying that he's going to get more opportunities to do it this week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Still, it was telling that Travis Homer was the first
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[SPEAKER_02]: was telling that Lou Nichols had most of the carers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was telling that Eli Heinrich came in and had more carers than Caleb Johnson, the traffic, very round traffic out of Iowa last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm trying to see how these touches are going to get dippied up what point in the game is he going to come in and what kind of impact when he gets in, is he going to have?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's fair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you look and have a new regime, but yet you don't get those carriers, of course these questions are going to be asked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that is one that is going to be open and there's the opportunities there in that running back group, because I just don't believe that Jalen Warmen and Rico Dotto will play this week as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to see that same rotation of backs, let's just see what order it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when I look on the other side, that goes right back into the point of special teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Special team that third running back has to be able to play special team in that's something that happened because as the Evan flow of the game happens Now you're in spots that maybe you're not not normally in and that generally occurs on special team They had a very tough first half with the number of penalties that they had on special teams And we're talking everybody from top to bottom pro baller all the way down to a guy who is trying to make this roster So everybody is now on alert because that's something you just can't have in that impact it feel position because it's the
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[SPEAKER_01]: Packers were starting to seem like at the 30 40 hour line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There were a lot of drives that were started inside the 15.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think these are things that now have to be corrected in order for them to get going because you don't want to get off to that slow start.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you have a young quarterback in the manner of will Howard, you want to make sure you're giving him the best field position.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you can now steal a first down or two on those returns in this part return and kick return game, that's going to help a young quarterback out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: definitely going to help young quarterback out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to help a young person now, may help a rookie out, CB.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm about to ask you a question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When you look at our rookies, we drafted 10 of them, right, CB, but they put you on a spot a little bit out of all the 10 rookies.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's a strong class by the way it looks right now the way they play last week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Out of all the 10 rookies, which one do you think needs to improve his stock the most in this game?
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[SPEAKER_01]: excuse me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I had the guess is looking at it, I would probably think that it has to be Jenny's Dunker because in that rotation, you know, you got off and then that's generally what happens when you have a rookie in here and you're not playing with against guys with that rotation because you're trying to see so many people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think he needs to take that next step there because there were a lot of talk that he could potentially step in as a starter as a young guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He just now has to take that next jump.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know what that looks like because yesterday
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[SPEAKER_01]: But will he be ready to go on game day?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be something to pay attention to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm expecting him to play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no way and he understands the opportunity that's out there for him that he's going to want to miss this game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If he does, I mean, something serious is going on that we'll have to monitor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But out of all the rookies, I look at that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is the guy that I want to see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go out there and just become a maller in open up the run game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All the Iowa kids have something to prove.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When you look at it, Caleb Johnson,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jennings Dunker, Kayne Weijan, he's to improve upon what he did last week as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When I'm looking at the rookie class, I'm not going to say kick out of all the rookies, Kayne, he's improving most, or at least needs to show up more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking at Eli Highway, and so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When I mentioned Caleb, he got in the last behind Eli, but Eli only had one more carry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I want to see if he's somebody that the office is really interested in bringing him in and adding him to and being a part of this office.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, are you going to have play specifically for Eli?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Heinrich, are you going to use this skill set?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is he something that they envision adding to
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[SPEAKER_02]: Aaron Rogers in the plays that he wants to call on game day this year or is he still somebody they envision bringing up be a practice squad and so I'm looking at his his carry how they use him and what scenarios they bring him in on to see if he's somebody they envision to make this to be three-man roster make sense make sense he did and I should he had a strong game of course big catch everybody remembers but they want to see more from that return game especially from him but I said
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[SPEAKER_02]: Eli Heinrich, but there's somebody else that I wanna see from that needs to carry on a strong performance that he did last week, and that's Gabriel Rubio.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that kid right there could not be move CB.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you watch this clip, but is it guy, our favorite guy on social media, Tommy Jaggy broke down his clips, and he was unstoppable versus the run.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see Kenny do that again two weeks in a row.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The big question mark on him was how durable he was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Arted the fact that he wasn't durable enough while at Pittsburgh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so the tape wasn't out there luckily for us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It kind of made him drop to a six round.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We might have gotten a gym and in him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He needs him through and see Kenny do as well in the past game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't run again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kenny had some past rest moves.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can he be a factor in the past rush?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully he can be an added piece of his already deep, very deep, deep, deep line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's important.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you look at just the guys that are in front of you, your money makers, there's nothing you could do about the top two in that situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you have the first rounder from last year in Derrick Harmon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when you look at just the spots that are available, you are fighting for possibly one active roster spot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, what is available on the practice squad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is a big game for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's on the defense to start.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm flipping over to the offensive side, because my player to watch is Roman Wilson right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're expecting him at year three new system.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in training camp and he was the really the featured receiver if I had to guess at all the catches he probably had he had to be in the top two or top three of catches do out the entire training camp if or whatever reason it did not resonate in the game when the game went on he had one catch for seven yards that has to be better as the veteran guy you cannot have the young guy coming and I know Jeremy Bernard probably had a little bit more
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[SPEAKER_01]: Opportunities there, but he had four catches for 51 yards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy did, but Roman has to step up and he understand If he wants to hold off this young guy He has to have a monster game Today when I say today meaning the game day It has to be cannot wait until the final preseason game say yeah, I'm warm you up to it trust me I can get it done make it productive in the games That's the person that I'm watching and I'm hoping he takes that next step
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah coach is a bit hiking you up teammates have been hiking you up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We need to see it on game day now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see it come to fruition on game day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know he's been working hard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's out there running his routes as hard as he can.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It just hasn't happened yet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully it happens tonight versus the Jets and so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of CB, we can't get out of here without making one big play bet for our partners over here at Fan Dual, the over under for this game total point scored is 36 and a half last week we scored what was it 29 28 28 points for touchdown scoring drives the jet score 16 I mean that math right there was suggest the over but when you look at this game, how do you think it plays out?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it's too full for me, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: If Gino Smith is able to play a series, he may put some points on the board, but if he does not play and where they're going with your young guys, I'm going under.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think that the just offense is equipped enough to score on his defense or really just scoring general and there's not a lot of expected in a particular manner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going with the, uh, with the under in his particular case.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I see a game that's probably going to turn out probably 24, 3, 28, I don't know, 26, that's still not yet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm gonna go under with you CB.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think there's gonna be enough point score from the jet side.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think will Howard and our boy Drew Aller do come through and the offense is wearing on all engines and I'm looking forward to seeing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No doubt, look forward to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mason has great command to the offense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of you just appear on the field game day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's very experienced.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's strong personality in the locker room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really like this command.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just hearing the offense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been through a number of systems.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been asked to do things differently for how we believe in the quarterback position as played.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's done an extra job.
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[SPEAKER_02]: the resting CB.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back to the snap count show on Big Place Boys Network.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm your host, Ray Essex.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is your quarterback in mine, Mr. Charlie Batch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to our pregame show CB those comments post McCarthy came after I guess he announced that Mason is no longer playing in this preseason game and an error Roger said now this will be the will Howard and Drew Aller show CB What do you have to say about that that's kind of it's interesting in the second preseason game that Mason is already proven enough at this point where coaches don't need to see anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, that's good for you on one sense, you know, but so it can be a blessing on one side, but also it can be a curse on the other only because if this young guy will Howard goes out and performs and he's lights out throughout now opens up the conversation on whether or not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's ready to be the back of quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if that's the case, then there's a chance that, you know, maybe you're pushing Mason out the door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's done enough to make this roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no question about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a matter of whether or not these young guys are able to show enough on tape that it now convinces Mike McCarthy to open up his mindset as a relates to what he's looking to do on the quarterback side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So very important game here for these young quarterbacks as we prepare for tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Which brings me to my questions for you too, CBI.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's still too early to tell obviously, but wanna know what you think, what your experience up to this point and being around the franchise as much as you are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You get to sense that because this decision was made that Mason has secured the backup job, that's my first question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if so, number two, I guess one A1B, if he has,
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[SPEAKER_02]: If both of these quarterbacks fall out, I don't think you just need either one onto the practice squad, especially not Aller being a rookie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What is the likelihood that both quarterbacks are both get, both of those quarterbacks make the team make the 53 and we carry four quarterbacks on the roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To me, it's always been 0% and the reason why I say that it because yes, you may be able to keep them on the very first week leading up to the game and hopes it may be trading somebody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't want nobody to steal these young quarterbacks off of your roster, but I think that will change if you get closer to the game and the only reason why I say to because it's hard to develop young quarterbacks when the season is unfolded.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If he's not your number two quarterback, why because the starter takes all the reps, the backup now is playing the scouting quarterbacks, still knowing you're assignment as the backup quarterback, and then the 13 quarterback gets whatever is left that the backup quarterback may not necessarily need.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when you're looking from a fourth quarterback perspective, that means there's a strong chance throughout the course of a workweek that he may never get any reps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So how are you truly going to prepare that quarterback to do it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just my experience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All I know is, yes, McCarthy is comfortable with this four quarterbacks, but he has yet to say that Mason has secured the back of job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not worried about him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's on the roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He now has to see these young guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those words didn't come out of his mouth, so because of that, there still is opportunity for a will Howard to take a job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In a reason why I say this trade, because 20 some years ago, my rookie year, when I was in Detroit Scott Mitchell, he was just starting quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jim Miller was the backup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was drafted, but I was running with the threes in the second round.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So as I was getting ready to prepare, the coaching staff seen on tape within those pre-season games to say Charlie is ready as a rookie to be the backup and ultimately Jim Miller was released from the Lions and I was the backup and I was playing by week three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why I look at it
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you look at just Mike McCarthy's coaching record, he has not as a head coach kept four quarterbacks on the roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Could it change this year?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Slim chance, but just my personal opinion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that that keep you four quarterbacks is going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just a nominal effect from keeping four quarterbacks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you mentioned, you can't develop both young quarterbacks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If neither one of them is the backup quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because nobody's missing out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody is definitely missing out on restaurant or because there's only so much you can do only so much time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You haven't only so many reps, you can do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Debbie up amongst the quarterbacks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Aaron is taking the majority of the reps throughout the week no matter what.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And just from a roster construction standpoint,
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[SPEAKER_02]: That has a domino effect on who you could keep at other positions, and obviously we need depth at so many other positions, which leads us to the fact of, yes, this is a big gain for the quarterbacks, but it's a big gain for so many other position groups out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously the O line, as we mentioned, struggled a little bit to start, but did enough to the tune that we score 28 points.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so they have some stuff to prove.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously the safety and the secondary got
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[SPEAKER_02]: Really back up that performance that they did last week because mean you both were high on how well they tackled as a group and then we got some new people added to the mix We got in land and robbers back in how is that gonna look from a line-backer rotation standpoint So when we go into our things to watch C. B.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously the first thing that was mentioned that we talked about is Your first one is quarterback play go ahead and talk more about that
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I want to piggyback just off what you say when you talk about roster configuration, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's assume that Mike McCarthy keeps four quarterbacks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that means for 17 straight weeks in the regular season, Mike McCarthy is going to inactivate three spots.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And those are your two spots essentially.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're 13 quarterback and you're 14 quarterback that you know they are not able to play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now you use it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when you're trying to figure out which 47 that are going to be available, you know already now injuries play a factor into it is very tough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why that's another thing as a relates to why it's tough to keep for quarterback because you know too is on the inactive list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: every single week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's going to be a challenge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, that's one thing on the roster configuration.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure we'll get to that over the next week as we prepare and start talking about what the final roster looks like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But when we look at where we are with the quarterback play here, this is Will Howard in pole position.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now they want to see him at 19 plays last week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He did a very nice job of running the offense, especially the two minute juror right before the have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, he's going to see if you can start and keep that play up for the entire first half.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's going to be that evaluation piece and of course he'll give way to Drew Aller on the other side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure both of them will have a two minute opportunity to see how they progress from week one to week two because both of these quarterback did a very nice job as well in that game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is important.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll Howard understands.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He talked about how important this game is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he talked about being the next game on the importance and he's not showing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: any nervousness as he's preparing for this game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said, I've been, I think this is what I expected to be a potential starting quarterback in this league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'd be for the regular season, but he is starting tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the guys tasked with protecting those guys to online, I am looking not at just their play, but how coach, rotation, how coach camping brings in the guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I'm assuming that the same starting line up is going
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that is, I would see Troy at left tackle, Mason at left guard, Zack at the center, spins at right guard and Dylan Cook at right tackle, specifically looking at Dylan Cook and how quick Roderick Jones gets into the game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He had, I think, the better game out of all the tackles last week, and I think he's gonna get a lot more opportunities to prove if he should be that swing guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would say for the Steelers, and as I mentioned,
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[SPEAKER_02]: because there are some guys going down in camp already.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There are always a need for offensive tackles in this NFL, especially when trading camp gets done.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's always some guys banged up and whatnot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so looking at how they rotate up front, how quick Roger gets in, what Jennings Dunker does after our great performance last week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: can he piggyback on that and put two together and prove to these coaches that he's ready to take it to the next level and see who comes in first as the backup center and as mentioned, Brock Hoffman came in and I was surprised that he got back up center rows.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did not know that was in his record twa, but now that he's added that to his belt, he's become more valuable to this team and now they have people buying photos for that spot as the backup
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh, swing guy that usually when you only hear seven guys, you have the starting five this wing tackle and you had a guy a backup center and then a guy that can play both guards and then a third center who can snap as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm looking at how they come in and how they rotate and what positions they come in and play when they do getting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's one of the most important position groups when you talk about position flexibility because you have to be able to play dual roles, especially when you
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[SPEAKER_01]: offensive lineman that brings value.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why it's important on the rotation on what you're talking about, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Next CB, the landing robber is back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: 50 is back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You said he got his number 50 back, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: He took your time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even though Jamie Davis said one heck of a game last week, he got it back and he calls the ruckus this first day back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What did he say?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know the tempo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So all you know, one's feet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so he started causing him a him his first day in practice and they had fights.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what I wanted to see a little bit of.
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[SPEAKER_02]: had it to that practice and he brought that back in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see how they're going to use him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I know Coach McCarthy and that and that presser you mentioned and later on that this is going to be a game for young people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the vibe that I'm getting, a game for the young folks to showcase their ability.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that probably means Atlanta Roberts probably isn't going to get a whole lot of reps.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He knows the system already.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He is familiar with where he's supposed to be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's the quote that Coach Tommy used to say?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd rather say whoa, then sick him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You probably want to say whoa on a land in robbers because he don't want him to get too banged up or too nicked up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is year 10 for him and the league already.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I am happy to see him back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see how he's used.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's fair because anytime you bring a veteran guy this late into training camp essentially close to the regular season, you're just strong chance he's going to make this roster and people who played with him before in this roster know how he's capable of no to speed that he played with them practice as a veteran guy you could walk in and say, man, it's practice the lame and about the live in this thing up with fresh right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In that got the tempo going, but again, if you're deep in supporting the Patrick Graham, you're saying to yourself, this is why he's on this roster right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My experience that I've had with him last year in Las Vegas, the experience that he had with the Patriots prior to coming to the Steelers, where he's one multiple multi-superboles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he knows how to play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He plays out a high level and he brings stability into that linebacker group.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that is one thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't expect to see much from him in this preseason game, but again,
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[SPEAKER_01]: As he is now ramping up and getting his legs back, this is going to be a great addition for this defense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was speaking on a linebiker side, that now gets me to the safeties, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: At safeties, these days, that thought they had all played a really good game last week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were able to keep everything in front, a couple of passes that were deep, they were able to defend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was really good to see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The one thing I love is the fact that they were coming out of the middle of the field and they were wanted to put their head at hot and the pat,
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[SPEAKER_01]: The one person who did that surprise me is the young gun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about Robert Spirits Jr.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Jennings, this guy may play after play, the seven-round pick out of Oklahoma.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that made me caught, you know, caught a lot of people off guard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't expect that right away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He now needs to build on-tag onto that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We know who the starters are going to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We know it's going to be brister.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We know it's going to be Ellie, but again, what does the next phase of talent looks like on this team?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, when you have Sebastian Castro, he was drafted last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had a nice game, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: Without Jalen Ramsey in the game because we true still to this day have no idea what position He is going to play so that opens the door for the next group of guys And that's what you want to see here and I want to see those guys and I want to see them continue to elevate their play in the same manner that they did I coming out of week one
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the position groups that we were kind of down on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There were a lot of positives out of the last week's game, but the one thing that we came out of and said, we need to work on this is the running game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, we thought Lou Nichols did play well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I expect to see more of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He has proven that in the preseason, he has capable of totalling that rock and doing it well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The main guy I am looking at.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Caleb Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was asked about Coach McCarthy was asked about him and his lack of touch is last week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He said it was just a flow of the game and didn't quite know if it was the the right game plan for a high carry situation for Caleb Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so he's saying that he's going to get more opportunities to do it this week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Still, it was telling that Travis Homer was the first
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[SPEAKER_02]: was telling that Lou Nichols had most of the carers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was telling that Eli Heinrich came in and had more carers than Caleb Johnson, the traffic, very round traffic out of Iowa last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm trying to see how these touches are going to get dippied up what point in the game is he going to come in and what kind of impact when he gets in, is he going to have?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's fair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you look and have a new regime, but yet you don't get those carriers, of course these questions are going to be asked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that is one that is going to be open and there's the opportunities there in that running back group, because I just don't believe that Jalen Warmen and Rico Dotto will play this week as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to see that same rotation of backs, let's just see what order it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when I look on the other side, that goes right back into the point of special teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Special team that third running back has to be able to play special team in that's something that happened because as the Evan flow of the game happens Now you're in spots that maybe you're not not normally in and that generally occurs on special team They had a very tough first half with the number of penalties that they had on special teams And we're talking everybody from top to bottom pro baller all the way down to a guy who is trying to make this roster So everybody is now on alert because that's something you just can't have in that impact it feel position because it's the
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[SPEAKER_01]: Packers were starting to seem like at the 30 40 hour line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There were a lot of drives that were started inside the 15.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think these are things that now have to be corrected in order for them to get going because you don't want to get off to that slow start.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you have a young quarterback in the manner of will Howard, you want to make sure you're giving him the best field position.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you can now steal a first down or two on those returns in this part return and kick return game, that's going to help a young quarterback out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: definitely going to help young quarterback out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to help a young person now, may help a rookie out, CB.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm about to ask you a question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When you look at our rookies, we drafted 10 of them, right, CB, but they put you on a spot a little bit out of all the 10 rookies.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's a strong class by the way it looks right now the way they play last week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Out of all the 10 rookies, which one do you think needs to improve his stock the most in this game?
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[SPEAKER_01]: excuse me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I had the guess is looking at it, I would probably think that it has to be Jenny's Dunker because in that rotation, you know, you got off and then that's generally what happens when you have a rookie in here and you're not playing with against guys with that rotation because you're trying to see so many people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think he needs to take that next step there because there were a lot of talk that he could potentially step in as a starter as a young guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He just now has to take that next jump.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know what that looks like because yesterday
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[SPEAKER_01]: But will he be ready to go on game day?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be something to pay attention to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm expecting him to play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no way and he understands the opportunity that's out there for him that he's going to want to miss this game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If he does, I mean, something serious is going on that we'll have to monitor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But out of all the rookies, I look at that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is the guy that I want to see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go out there and just become a maller in open up the run game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All the Iowa kids have something to prove.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When you look at it, Caleb Johnson,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jennings Dunker, Kayne Weijan, he's to improve upon what he did last week as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When I'm looking at the rookie class, I'm not going to say kick out of all the rookies, Kayne, he's improving most, or at least needs to show up more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking at Eli Highway, and so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When I mentioned Caleb, he got in the last behind Eli, but Eli only had one more carry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I want to see if he's somebody that the office is really interested in bringing him in and adding him to and being a part of this office.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, are you going to have play specifically for Eli?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Heinrich, are you going to use this skill set?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is he something that they envision adding to
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[SPEAKER_02]: Aaron Rogers in the plays that he wants to call on game day this year or is he still somebody they envision bringing up be a practice squad and so I'm looking at his his carry how they use him and what scenarios they bring him in on to see if he's somebody they envision to make this to be three-man roster make sense make sense he did and I should he had a strong game of course big catch everybody remembers but they want to see more from that return game especially from him but I said
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[SPEAKER_02]: Eli Heinrich, but there's somebody else that I wanna see from that needs to carry on a strong performance that he did last week, and that's Gabriel Rubio.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that kid right there could not be move CB.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you watch this clip, but is it guy, our favorite guy on social media, Tommy Jaggy broke down his clips, and he was unstoppable versus the run.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see Kenny do that again two weeks in a row.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The big question mark on him was how durable he was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Arted the fact that he wasn't durable enough while at Pittsburgh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so the tape wasn't out there luckily for us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It kind of made him drop to a six round.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We might have gotten a gym and in him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He needs him through and see Kenny do as well in the past game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't run again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kenny had some past rest moves.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can he be a factor in the past rush?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully he can be an added piece of his already deep, very deep, deep, deep line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's important.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you look at just the guys that are in front of you, your money makers, there's nothing you could do about the top two in that situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you have the first rounder from last year in Derrick Harmon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when you look at just the spots that are available, you are fighting for possibly one active roster spot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, what is available on the practice squad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is a big game for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's on the defense to start.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm flipping over to the offensive side, because my player to watch is Roman Wilson right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're expecting him at year three new system.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in training camp and he was the really the featured receiver if I had to guess at all the catches he probably had he had to be in the top two or top three of catches do out the entire training camp if or whatever reason it did not resonate in the game when the game went on he had one catch for seven yards that has to be better as the veteran guy you cannot have the young guy coming and I know Jeremy Bernard probably had a little bit more
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[SPEAKER_01]: Opportunities there, but he had four catches for 51 yards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy did, but Roman has to step up and he understand If he wants to hold off this young guy He has to have a monster game Today when I say today meaning the game day It has to be cannot wait until the final preseason game say yeah, I'm warm you up to it trust me I can get it done make it productive in the games That's the person that I'm watching and I'm hoping he takes that next step
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah coach is a bit hiking you up teammates have been hiking you up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We need to see it on game day now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see it come to fruition on game day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know he's been working hard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's out there running his routes as hard as he can.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It just hasn't happened yet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully it happens tonight versus the Jets and so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of CB, we can't get out of here without making one big play bet for our partners over here at Fan Dual, the over under for this game total point scored is 36 and a half last week we scored what was it 29 28 28 points for touchdown scoring drives the jet score 16 I mean that math right there was suggest the over but when you look at this game, how do you think it plays out?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it's too full for me, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: If Gino Smith is able to play a series, he may put some points on the board, but if he does not play and where they're going with your young guys, I'm going under.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think that the just offense is equipped enough to score on his defense or really just scoring general and there's not a lot of expected in a particular manner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going with the, uh, with the under in his particular case.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I see a game that's probably going to turn out probably 24, 3, 28, I don't know, 26, that's still not yet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm gonna go under with you CB.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think there's gonna be enough point score from the jet side.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think will Howard and our boy Drew Aller do come through and the offense is wearing on all engines and I'm looking forward to seeing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No doubt, look forward to it.
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